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[Music] this is a view from the bunker now here’s derek gilbert
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[Applause] we would not have you be ignorant of the enemy’s devices that is why we’ve got
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the conversation on tap that we do tonight welcome to a view from the bunker i’m derek gilbert in case you’re wondering i am not
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wearing the same clothing as last week oh okay i am wearing the same clothing as last week but it’s only because i’m
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recording two interviews on the same night so uh i have an excuse but i will uh
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make up for the lack of sartorial creativity this evening which i think what will be a fascinating conversation in fact i’m sure it will be because it
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always is when he is uh our guest this week is on our program he’s an educated man he’s got a masters
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at the hebrew university of jerusalem he did his phd at lbu’s pastor of the way congregation in denver and the author of
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numerous books including his latest which completes a three book trilogy called corrupting the image book one is
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angels aliens and the antichrist revealed book two hybrids hades and the mount hermon connection a book that
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shannon and i have talked about repeatedly on the bible’s greatest mysteries because of his recent discovery of new information from the
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mount hormone stila fascinating stuff brilliant work and now book three brand new corrupting the
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image three singularity superhumans and the second coming of jesus you’ll find his website online at douglashamp.com
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and it is our honor to welcome dr doug hamp back to the program doug after uh we talked about your last
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book uh i didn’t know how much more there was going to be left for you to discuss or
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discover but you’ve got more stuff in here than in uh than in the last one uh this is um
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you said to me in an email before the program that this is probably uh you you feel like the the most research
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that you’ve done gone into a book um and not meaning this in a way to to brag or anything but i think you’re right i mean
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absolutely there is a lot of stuff in here and over the course of the so just kudos
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up front uh because over the course the next hour we’re only going to be able to scratch the surface here
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um it’s very timely given the emphasis in the major media corporate media over
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the last couple years well really since the end of 2017 when the new york times ran that story and
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published the the video of that tic tac incident with uh the navy f-18 pilots
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from back in 2004 so that is one of the focuses of of this book and part one in your book you
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titled a world confronted by hostile extra dimensionals instead of extraterrestrials
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why did you use that title what’s the difference and why are they hostile yeah that’s actually something that
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george knapp uh is talking about so he is a pretty well established uh ufologist and um he’s talking about
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how like somebody asked him you know do you think these beings or ufos come from outside the
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solar system he said no i see he said i think they exist here but they are behind a thin dimensional
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or a thin psychical dimensional membrane is what he put and you know when i heard him say that i was like jumping up and
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down i’m like that’s what the bible’s been saying for such a long time you know and that’s something i went into a lot
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of detail in cryptic image two to talk about that veil and you know i think it’s a huge
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thing to understand that the bible has talked about there’s some kind of a membrane a veil uh
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you know whatever you want to call it i think have kind like a force field i don’t know what i don’t know what it is to call it necessarily but the bible
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refers to it as a veil and we see it really distinctly in four different places where
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uh ezekiel’s sitting brother over here bar with the captains of judah and the heavens are opened to him at the baptism
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of jesus the heavens are opened at the stoning of stephen the heavens are opened uh in john revelation 19 john
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sees the heavens open right so what that’s doing is it’s telling us that there’s another world another dimension
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behind whatever this thing is this veil or something and that is where according to george
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knapp that is where these beings are coming from and that would explain why they can act
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um in ways that absolutely defy our laws of physics as we understand them you
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know they can just appear disappear and then something started to blow me away is that a lot of these things are
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seen coming up out of the water up out of the ocean and you know there in revelation 13
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right john says i was standing on the sea of the shore or the sand of the seashore and i saw
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the beast come up out of the water and i’m like no way like that’s crazy right so i think what’s happening is
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you know we’ve been we’ve been you know kind of privy to the whole youth
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the ufo uap thing for a very long time but it’s not that they’re coming from far away as they’re coming from a
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different dimension that that dimension is it’s like a layer it’s it’s
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just sitting on our dimension we can’t get there in any kind of spaceship but if you have the right kind of
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dimensional i don’t know key you could possibly get there so the these uh things are just uh
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i like the way josh peck describes it using the flatland example it’s uh you know we’re able to see only in a limited number of
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dimensions just like the characters in that book from 100 years ago who could only see uh length and width but uh when
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you added uh height uh into it uh suddenly they were totally confused because they couldn’t perceive that uh
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this hand coming through their dimension was actually one and one thing instead of five
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that’s that’s kind of how we perceive into the spirit realm these entities that appear to uh just do what
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seems magical or you know just that they’re actually just operating with more dimensions than we
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can then we can perceive is that a fair description exactly exactly
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and you know what’s what i think is really significant is that the the somewhat secular uh community that
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doesn’t necessarily believe in god but they believe that ufos and aliens exist they’re beginning to to grasp this
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that they’re not far far away like we get in a you know star trek uh you know spaceship and we can fly there
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right but it’s a matter of it’s a different dimension that they exist in and yet flightland is perfect
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because you know like the flatlanders just could not perceive that third dimension they even
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debated whether it existed you know and i think that’s kind of where we are today is like we’re like ah is there
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really a higher dimension but when you start looking at the way that these craft uh operate it’s totally consistent
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with what the bible is talking about of you know demons or fallen angels or angels whatever it may be
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that they exist in some other other place last week i interviewed a science fiction author who’s a christian he’s
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got a new trilogy out called starship gilead and uh the basic premise
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is best described as well i i call it battlestar galactica meets the book of enoch but it’s it’s like a
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rebellion tears the galaxy apart because of this this radical cult that believes
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it’s trying to free an ancient alien from uh an unjust imprisonment in another dimension where he’s been uh
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so how far how far from uh truth based on your research for this three book series correcting the image how far from
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the truth is that i i think that’s that’s pretty good i like the whole premise that he has that
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sounds really interesting um but that’s the basic idea right is that yeah
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satan and all of his cronies are essentially trapped in that other dimension we know that there’s a day
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coming when they will not have any access to that other dimension but they’ll be forced into this one right
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revelation 12 says that the the the dragon and all of his angels are going to be
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sent down to earth and that’s it they can’t go back right so right now they’re
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on the other side of that dimensional veil and i don’t think that they can just come anytime that they please
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they they seem to be able to make appearances if they have enough blood if they have enough rituals
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that in some way permit that but that doesn’t seem to be the norm that seems to be quite the exception that would exist um
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that would explain a lot in fact sharon even explores that in her series with uh rituals being done specifically for that
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purpose to open uh or grant permission to these entities to cross over
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right yeah exactly you know so in a way it’s advantageous for satan to be on
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that other side because he can influence things without being seen on the other hand he has to work through
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human agents and i suppose that’s probably a bummer for him because you know we’re not always uh the most
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willing or adept or obedient to his wishes right he’s trying to get
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us to do his stuff and people want to do their own thing quite often so you know this is where i think it’s all going to
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come together in the person known as the beast right this is where
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um i believe satan is going to come up with his own avatar right this
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will be his own incarnation if you will and that will be kind of the best of
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both worlds if you can sort of imagine it from his perspective so how would the ufo disclosure movement
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then advance this agenda moving towards that goal yeah
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well you know i think we’ve already had kind of a disclosure i mean i think that tic tac video in 2004
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uh and then the the government’s tacit uh agreement that yes this did happen
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right they’re not trying to they’re not coming with the men in black and trying to sterilize this whole thing they’re like yeah i mean pretty much yeah you
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know so i i don’t think that we’re going to have a big epic event where a ufo lands on the white house law and i just
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don’t think that kind of thing is going to happen what i believe based on my
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research in scripture is that when the two witnesses come right revelation chapter 11 talks about these these two
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beings who well humans apparently but they’re going to come with supernatural powers and the world is going to hate
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them i mean absolutely loathe these two so much so that when they are when they’re killed by the beast the world is
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going to be sending gifts to one another and just absolutely rejoicing because these two
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will torment planet earth now you may say okay what has have to do with ufos i think everything i think
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that they are god’s advanced team saying hey uh planet earth i’m coming
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and uh before i come i want to just kind of give you a fair warning that uh judgment’s coming you know so prepare
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yourself and these two are going to come with that basic message but they’re not just going to come with words but they’re
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going to come with power they’re going to come with the ability to strike the earth with plagues as often as they die desire
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to turn the waters to blood they can uh stop it from raining they will stop it from raining for three and a half
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years that’s going to absolutely devastate the world the economy etc and if anybody tries to stop them
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then they’re they’re going to just have fire come out of their mouth and destroy these people well let’s think let’s put this in context for a second
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if anybody well let’s think about the us military the navy seals uh i don’t know mossad or whoever right whoever is out
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there is these special forces they’re going to come in with some pretty amazing firepower right um and so
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when you know the navy seals or the army ranger whoever comes in and tries to stop these guys
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but they’re unstoppable i mean what’s the world going to conclude oh
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these are two people sent from the the most high god or well they might maybe conclude you know
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these guys obviously powerful um and maybe they’re coming from the quote unquote creator
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but the creator in people’s minds may not be the god of abraham isaac and jacob but rather something like the
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movie prometheus where you know you had these creators of the world of well of life on earth
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who were um you know they got things started but turns out when humanity went to meet
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these guys they were real jerks and we didn’t like them that’s right it turns out we weren’t going to get along you know and and so the basic idea
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is okay they’re advanced beings well so are we we’re advancing we are evolving
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and so what i would suggest is that when planet earth is
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confronted with these two beings that nobody can stop nobody can stop them
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they’re gonna be like oh we’re we’re kind of in a pickle here we’ve got to do something radical something drastic we
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have to stop these two at any cost because the very existence of humanity really you know it depends
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upon this right uh there’s an existential moment in in humanity that says we have to get rid of them and this
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is where i think the whole ufo thing will really come into play right because if if you’ve got these enemies out here
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and you’ve got this unknown basically the ufo phenomenon for the last 70 80 years
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and what have we learned about these beings well they’re very powerful our technology has no effect on them they
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can kind of do what they want they must be thousands of years ahead of us technologically speaking well it turns
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out we have these two enemies that are technologically advanced and they can do stuff that we don’t know how to stop so
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maybe these ufos and aliens could actually stop the two witnesses
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right and that’s where i would suggest that they’re going to go looking to
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the ufos which i believe to be satan and his dudes they’re going to go looking to them and say hey can you help us get rid
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of these two guys right so the enemy of my enemy is my friend right that’s my basic idea
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and satan will be like sure i can help you right you know just for a small fee right just sign my little covenant with
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death and shale and we’re good to go you know so that’s the basic idea uh yeah and i by the way i noticed with
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uh some satisfaction that you made reference to one of my favorite favorite episodes of the twilight zone to serve
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man don’t get on the ship it’s a cookbook um but you refer to these these two the two
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witnesses as inter-dimensionals instead of extra dimensionals is there a difference
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well yes because extra means that they are from outside of the earth
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okay so you know they’re coming from planet whatever qui-gon or something like that but
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but these guys uh in my opinion okay and i know there’s debate about this not everyone agrees
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but i i’m i’m very convinced that the they’re going to be moses and elijah or at least
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two who come in the spirit of moses and elijah okay but i’d put my money on moses elijah okay so you know i’m with
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you i’m with you there i agree okay okay yeah i think it makes the most sense i mean they appeared at
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uh the the transfiguration of yeshua on top of mount hermon right i mean they
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were there uh elijah excuse me elijah has specifically mentioned that he will come
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and the ancient jews actually were very much of the opinion that moses would come as well so i think those are going
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to be the two that will come and um so they’re coming again not from
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far away from planet earth but they’re here they they belong to this planet right they’re not they’re not
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from outside of this world but they’re from in this world and the plagues that they bring to earth
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also seem very very familiar to the careers of moses and elijah indeed they do don’t they right i mean
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yeah elijah he stopped it from reigning for three and a half years moses turned the waters to blood uh
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elijah called fire down from heaven i mean these are things that we we see very often and and what’s interesting is
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both of these guys had very direct battles with the false gods
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right so moses of course was battling against pharaoh and all the gods that he in a
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sense represented right he himself thought he thought himself to be a god and then he was sort of
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representing all the other gods and god specifically says in the bible he says in exodus 12 12 this is i will execute
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judgment against all the gods of egypt right right i think we can often forget that that god was just being mean to the
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egyptians well partly but really this was a battle of god versus god yes right
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and who’s the more powerful god and then of course elijah did that very thing on mount carmel
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where you know he had the 400 prophets of bao and ashton you know go and dance and call your god
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and then they poured water on the fire and he’s you know bowel never showed up but the god of
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abram isaac and jacob man he sent down fire from heaven yeah and he consumed that that sacrifice and lift up lapped
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up the water and that was that right so it was a contest against gods and and really if we kind of understand the the
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undertone of what’s happening in the book revelation this is once again a battle of the gods right we know which
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god is going to win but um you know it’s not going to be it’s not going to
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be evident to people until the very end right and uh thankfully we know how the story ends
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when you explain it in those terms how difficult what kind of pushback do you get
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from people who’ve not heard that plural word gods used outside of a reference to polytheism
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well i i just try to contextualize it you know again i would suggest that the gods of of yesteryear are just the
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aliens of today and you know and of course the whole ancient aliens uh
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show kind of makes that basic premise for us already you know so i think people are warming up to that idea and
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if we can just simply say look we’re not talking about zeus or something like that but we’re talking about
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these advanced beings that a lot of scientists are already very comfortable with talking as long as you say advanced
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being they’re okay with that right and as you notice in the book i talk about how uh richard dawkins
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um you know he’s he’s in the movie uh expelled no intelligence allowed and ben
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stein is just kind of playing with him you know he says well what do you think what’s the what’s the possibility uh
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that maybe um you know intelligent design started life and he’s like well you know
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maybe and maybe it was an advanced you know advanced uh race of beings that
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essentially got things started here on planet earth and so dawkins was kind of doing this voiceover and he’s like oh so dawkins
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isn’t against creator it’s just certain creators like god you know and i was reading an article
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some time ago and they were positing they’re like you know there’s so much evidence of design in the universe that
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well somebody just had to do it must have been aliens and i’m like guys like hello why not just say god why not just come
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to that conclusion but that’s the one word that they can’t say because
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you know to think that there’s some almighty being that really chafes people
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but to think that there’s you know some very very powerful and intelligent beings that also evolved means what we
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can also evolve to be like them and really they’re not any better than us they’re just further
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along they’ve got better toys exactly they’ve just been at it longer that’s their only advantage right yeah
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well that that seems to be the goal of the transhumanist movement which i know you you’re very much aware of uh we’ve been following it for quite some time
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sharon’s degree in molecular biology actually pushed her closer to god because she realized that there ain’t no
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way that this uh the intricate design of the human cell just evolved by accident because there
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are no intermediate steps that would have been functionally useful to any organic being so
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are no intermediate steps that would have been functionally useful to any organic being so
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uh the transhumanists appear to have some central role or at least a purpose in
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the uh in in the plan of satan what what is transhumanism um and how is it gonna how will that
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movement is that movement furthering satan’s goal yeah you know so i want to make it very
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clear that i am not against technology i love technology oh yeah i’m kind of a geek that way i love to follow it i’m
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like oh wow they’ve got some some cool new inventions you know but what i would suggest is that it’s you know good
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technology in the hands of a madman that’s a bad idea all right and uh and so that’s where i think we’re gonna go
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wrong with our technology is that we’re gonna make incredible advances and i’m all for well at least certain kinds of
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gene therapy where we can help people and overcome diseases i think that’s great but again it’s how do we twist it the wrong way so
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some of the transhumanists have very bold and clear stated goals that they’re
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like we want to become gods right period like that’s where we want to be um you know they say that there is no god
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except man right so it’s not just that they want to overcome sickness that’s i
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think a rather noble desire but they want to go beyond that and become
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eternal they want to become gods i mean that’s the word that they use right i’m not putting that in their mouth they want to
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become gods and you know the the unfortunate thing the sad thing is that the god of the bible
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says well i’m actually of the same basic idea but let me do it my way okay i want
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to make you eternal beings that have no sickness that have super intelligence
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that have all the cool stuff all the superpowers that you could possibly need
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but let me do it my way and humanity basically says nah we don’t want to do that we’d rather go and do it our own
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way and that is where transhumanism is basically leading us is
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they’re like hey guys let’s all jump off the cliff together you know and uh through technological means i
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think that they’re actually going to achieve it that’s probably the scariest part of this whole
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thing and i think the bible is actually giving us a number of clues that that’s
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going to happen so in revelation chapter 9 it says that
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that um then men were seeking death but it it fled from them yeah you know
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and you could just quickly read over there like oh okay whatever but you’re like wait let me read that again men are seeking death but death fled
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from them how can that be this terrible sad statistic is that people commit
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suicide every day very successfully okay it’s a very sad statistic but it’s true
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so how can it be that there will be a time that people will seek death and it will flee from them right so what that means
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is okay they want to die but they can’t die why can’t they die well because
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something changed in them right something changed that they’re no longer
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able to kill themselves so kind of do the reverse engineering and that means that
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well they did something right they attained something they have fundamentally changed who they are
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so that they can’t die and i would suggest that is talking about people going from being your basic
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humans to actually attaining that godhood that they so desperately desire they’re going to get the immortality
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that they were seeking that transhumanism has been preaching and promising and they’re going to get that
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however when they get it they’re going to be like hmm maybe this wasn’t such a good idea yeah then
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it’s too late and i would say that is directly related to the mark of the beast as to how they how they go about
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and do that okay now how does that factor in this is a theory i’ve heard what what is your take on the uh the
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mark of the beast and how transhumanism might play a role in bringing that about
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yeah so what i i was you know years ago i was looking at
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genesis 3 15 god says i will cause enmity between you satan and
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the woman between your seed and her seed all right so her seed we understand as is the messiah
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right so that is uh yeshua god incarnate but then who is your seed talking about
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right and how can it be that satan has seed so i i spent all of corrupting the
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image volume one talking about that that that theory and explaining how
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information is a non-material entity that requires a physical medium
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so to say that satan has seed is not so outlandish it just means that he has
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information and somehow that information is going to be someday stored in a physical medium
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just as it happened with the incarnation of jesus okay but i was obviously not as cool as jesus
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incarnation but you know a pretty close uh mock-up if you will so
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this is where i would suggest that satan and the man called the beast are going to
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merge together i talk about this in the book how i think that
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you know just as the holy spirit overshadowed mary and in some way imparted seed into her again i
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you know i i can’t put this under the microscope and tell you exactly you know how this is going to happen but i think
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we have enough clues to get a pretty good idea that somehow satan is gonna in
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a sense overshadow himself on somebody he’ll basically layer himself onto
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somebody and he will then impart that dna now here’s where it gets interesting there’s a guy named chris from the
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reno nevada who was a bone marrow recipient okay bone marrow someone donated and he received
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that so this forensics lab was kind of just tracking the whole process before
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and after when he got this bone marrow transplant and it turns out that the
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the dna in his sperm changed from his own to that of his donor right
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i remember when i read that it blew my mind yeah yeah because i was like wait a second if this guy is to sire children
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they would not be his own but that of his german donor right that’s pretty crazy yeah so
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and it’s and it’s interesting that the word uh bone in hebrew is etzem and etzem is like yourself like that’s the
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most you you can possibly be okay so if if you’re what’s inside your bones
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changes are you really you well in a way yeah but maybe you’re not entirely so
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what i see happening is you know based on some uh quantum entanglement going on between satan and this individual they
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will then merge in their personalities in their bodies even so that he becomes the the avatar for
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satan and so then once this transformation has has
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taken place he is then going to replicate his dna his now superhuman dna and he’s going to
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provide that to the world but you might say well why would anybody ever do this
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well let’s go back a little second remember those two witnesses yeah and they were really destroying planet earth
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right and nobody liked them well we need a champion to come along and destroy them nobody is able to touch these guys
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so now there’s an incredibly important reason to have a champion who can fight fire
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with fire and it says that the beast who ascends out of the abyss he will arise and he
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will destroy the two witnesses now that gives you understanding as to why people would say
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who can make war with the beast right because answer nobody right nobody
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however three and a half days after he kills them and their bodies are just lying in the streets guess what
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they resurrect oh boy and there’s great fear in planet on planet earth right
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because they’re like oh this is bad and these two have been preaching that their boss is coming in
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short time right so now what do we do okay well we know that it’s possible to overcome them
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but now there’s pos probably a whole army that’s coming and what does scripture tell us it tells us that the
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whole world is going to gather together to make war against the lamb right i mean it’s it’s
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specifically stated they’re going to make war against god maybe they don’t think it’s god but you know some very
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powerful ancient advanced being whatever they’re getting ready to fight him and his army so
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you have an existential moment uh you know that there’s an incredibly powerful
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uh army that’s coming that and our our conventional weapons don’t do anything against them how do we fight against
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this well everybody on planet earth needs to upgrade and they need to become like the beast
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so that we can all fight against this invading horde okay right and if you’re
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not willing to do that well guess what you’re a traitor yeah you’re a turncoat you’re with those guys you’re with the
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two witnesses that were plaguing and tormenting the planet are you crazy you know i mean come on
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like our very existence relies upon us all coming together and getting this
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upgrade right it’s going to be cool there’s all kinds of reasons to do it but fear
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is probably the biggest factor that’s what drives people sure to do things and so this is where the whole thing
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comes into view from the ufos from the earliest ufos of just establishing a
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presence that hey we’re here and we’re kind of looking out for you we’re here to help and you know if there’s ever something
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really bad then we’re there i think the the you know the latest uh marvel movie eternals kind of brought
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that out yes this race of super beings that have just been kind of hanging out chilling on planet earth they only have one thing
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that’s to stop the deviants right that’s their only mission like they didn’t stop thanos they didn’t stop all
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these others right yeah where were they there yeah there’s only one thing we’re supposed to do and i think that’s kind
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of the basic idea is that you know the the aliens and ufos are sort of just waiting in the in the wings and if
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there’s ever an existential moment well we’re here okay and you know so i think it’s going to be all couched in these
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um you know these ufo alien kind of terms rather than god satan like nobody’s
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going to buy into that like who believes in satan i mean that’s stupid right yeah um and jesus meek and mild like i don’t
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know little baby jesus what’s he gonna do you know but if you start putting these race of advanced beings that are
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coming to destroy the planet well now we gotta take action so that’s what i think the mark of the
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piece is going to be is a transformation a genetic transformation of the person into a super human and give them uh
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super power well who wouldn’t want an upgrade with uh super powers and extended you know radical life extension
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uh all the whole package huh so this would be the the transhumanist
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goal essentially taken to its logical extreme we will make you uh not just immortal but uh superhuman
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as well right i mean they’ve already been they’ve been um you know monkeying around with stuff
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uh i say monkeying rather lightly because elon musk is monkeying around with monkeys uh you know and he’s
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putting the neural lace in their brains and connecting them right so you know as the commercial goes but wait there’s
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more um this is where uh not only can you upgrade
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the the body right to have super strength super ability uh longevity of
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life but also the brain okay i mean so and this is where i think the
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the mar the image of the beast comes in and what i posit in the book is that
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this i believe it’s going to be the hive mind it’s kind of the borg from star trek
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right resistance is futile you will be assimilated yeah i think that’s the basic idea but i think everyone’s going
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to want it i mean google and your brain uh or think the matrix and you can just upload something man i would sign up i
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mean it sounds great you know i can just download all this information download all the books and the bible and just
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have that in my head what’s not to like right i mean it sounds great but you know brain to brain uh
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connectivity and communication is already happening that’s what you understand it’s already happening and
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it’s likened to a hive like a beehive because you know one bee that can sting you and that’s an annoyance but if you
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have a whole hive operating together now that’s deadly and and what’s interesting is that the a single
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bee you know it’s just kind of a drone but the hive has its own super intelligence that’s what’s amazing it’s
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it’s a super organism and so what i would suggest is that look satan’s no fool he knows who’s coming and he has to
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do battle against so he’s going to create every weapon imaginable to fight against yeshua uh and and all the people
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all that are coming with him so you know he’s got to have the ultimate weapons and to create a super
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intelligence of a swarm of human thought wow but as uh you know saron would have it
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from lord of the rings right uh one ruin one ring to rule them all right so
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i i would suggest that that’s what’s gonna happen is that everyone’s gonna get this upgrade they’re gonna be like
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this is awesome i’ve got all this incredible intelligence i have now just instant access in my brain to all
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knowledge and and we’re all working happy great utopia happy happy but i
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think that they’re gonna you know after a little while they’re going to start hearing this voice telling them what to do
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and they might say no but the voice says yes that’s where you know satan is the
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ultimate puppet master and he says you will do what i say you know to do and and who knows i speculate a little
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bit but i think that may be the point at which people say wait a second this isn’t what i signed up for
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and to try to get out of this uh this imprisonment they try to kill themselves but
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death will flee from them yeah you know that’s really and that really takes us into zombies right i mean
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what do you call people that can’t die right but kind of would like to they probably try you know
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they’re called zombies you know so the bible has zombies in there as well yeah yeah i i have referred to
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armageddon as the ultimate zombie apocalypse um the uh the seven mountains of china are
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normally when we’re looking at end times prophecy and we’re we’re trying to analyze the beast and
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we get to revelation 19 and the explanation or revelation 17 rather than the explanation there uh the seven
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mountains are the seven uh seven hills uh of uh on you know the city and etc uh but you you make
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reference to the seven mountains of shiner or ancient sumer explain that how does this factor into
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end times prophecy well yeah so it talks about um
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how there’s going to be um you know
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there’s of course there’s a lot of moving pieces a lot a lot of parts in uh in scripture that we have to try to
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account for um and you know john talks about this in the book of revelation
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he talked about how five have fallen yeah right so what are these what are these five kingdoms
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that he’s talking about he even talks about how there’s seven mountains and
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um you know so what what the angel is saying he says why did you marvel i will tell you the mystery of the woman and of
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the beast that carries her which has seven heads and the ten horns the beast that you saw was and is not and will
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ascend now the the bottomless pit and go to perdition and those who dwell on the earth will marvel whose names are not written in
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the book of life from the foundations of the world when they see the beast that was and is not and yet is here is the
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mind that has wisdom the seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits
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there are also seven kings okay so i i go back to geometry class right so if a
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equals b and b equals c therefore a equals c right so you have seven heads
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that equal seven mountains that equals seven kings so therefore the seven mountains and the kings are one and the
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same and and the point that i’m making is that shinar or ancient sumer this is
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where everything started uh sheena just means betw means the two rivers okay in greek it would be
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mesopotamia right between the rivers right right that’s where this whole thing started and and so i really feel
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that if we’re going to properly understand that to understand where all of this is coming
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from that we have to say okay what are what are the kingdoms that were
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that were uh part of that so you know when we go back it talks about five empires uh you know five have fallen so
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what what could those possibly be we’ve got uh ancient sumer or old babylonian
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then you have the acadian or assyrian empire so that’s two then you have the the
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neo-babylonian under nebuchadnezzar then you have the medo-persian that’s four and then you have the greek empire
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and then uh the angel says and one is so what would the one be that is in
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john’s day it would be rome rome yeah right because they also conquered babylon
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right so all of these kingdoms were centered maybe not like that maybe wasn’t their headquarters but they had
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control over the area of babylon so i would suggest that that is the way
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to understand that and i would also suggest that there’s going to be a seventh who is also the eighth so he’s
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going to belong to the club of seven but he’ll be new in some way right so i would suggest that just as i
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talked about in corrupting image volume 2 that the beast is nimrod
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and i i show in there that nimrod is the the the biblical name for ninuta which means
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lord of the earth who was the son of enlil and i know you spent a lot of time talking about that as well
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in your book um and um you know so so ninorta is this beast and the beast
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was carrying the woman like there’s a there’s a cylinder seal so you have this picture from 2300 bc
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showing this beast that has uh these hybridized features
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and it is it’s carrying the woman so i think we’re going to have a resurgence maybe not of
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nimrod the man okay but uh maybe nimrod the idea maybe maybe the
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whole idea of where the case i make in corrupt image 2 is that satan
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and nimrod did the same thing that he became a god right and that’s what the ancient
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literature talks about is that that ninorta was the son of enlil
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so you know it’s it says that the the dragon is going to give the beast his power thrown and great authority and
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that’s kind of everything right i mean if you are a king and you give your power your
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throne and your great authority away i mean what’s left i mean that’s pretty much it so that’s where i i made the
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whole case in a whole book right that that satan was really uh empowering by
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combining with ninorcho this this man that we know is nimrod but he became
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a gibber he became something greater so i think we’re going to have a resurgence of
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that idea perhaps the very person i it’s hard to make that case exactly but you
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that idea perhaps the very person i it’s hard to make that case exactly but you
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know it could be um but certainly that that process that um
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that that quantum entanglement right i keep talking about quantum entanglement because you know anytime
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two particles somehow interact with with one another now there’s a there’s a bond between them
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um but if there’s a change in one there’s an instantaneous communication and change in the other and that’s uh
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partly how i think this happened is through a process of quantum entanglement but be that as me
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this is where the beast that was is not and will ascend out of the abyss this is
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where i think he makes his comeback hmm so if he’s in the abyss now again i i
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look at that that place as the the place where the the the sons of god of genesis 6 the watchers of the book of enoch uh
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the titans of greek mythology the anunnaki of ancient sumer are um collected and being held until
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revelation 9 and the they’re let out by a star from heaven that has the key is given the key to the abyss right um yes
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so where he he was and and will be again he was
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of the seven uh again can we nail this down any further again is this a spirit of nimrod or this the
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how do we identify him here i’m still trying to get my head around that yeah no i can appreciate that and i you
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know it’s hard for me to say exactly how that’s going to be um
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so you know no shame in that because we see into that realm as you know as paul said into a glass darkly you know we’re
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looking into a mirror in an ins a light a room with insufficient light so uh
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yeah the most i can do is try to take all the data points and do my best to synthesize them sure to put them
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together so again it could be that the man ninja or nimrod
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is going to come up out i’m less inclined to believe that because from what i see in scripture you
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die once and then the judgment right yeah i could be wrong i don’t know but the more that i get the sense that i get
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is is the process that satan uh devised to impart his dna to a human
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that is going to happen again that’s what i would suggest and whether the spirit of nimrod comes
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back i mean sort of in the you know the spirit of whatever you know we kind of talk in a general sense of
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um you know just you know the spirit of thanksgiving or something like that um
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maybe it’s in that sense or it could be the actual soul but i’m less inclined to believe that uh personally okay so
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this is like the process of this avatar basically the avatar let’s put it that way the avatar
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is gonna come back which is certainly a lot of satan yeah and we saw in the new testament
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satan entered into judas so this would be taking that to a another level
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absolutely and and really what i think what we’re talking about i mean it’s again it’s hard for us to understand
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exactly what happens in that spiritual realm but i think quantum physics has at least given us
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a small little window into what maybe could happen and i think quantum entanglement it just might be the answer
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so again if you take two photons and you put them together they’re now it’s called they’re in an entangled state and
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then if you separate them no matter how far the distance uh if you cause a change in one you
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change the spin as they call it then it instantaneously changes the other one and nobody knows how to explain this
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this freaked einstein out so much that he called it spooky action at a distance right he’s like this doesn’t make any
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sense and he spent many years trying to understand that but so that’s what i suggest is that satan
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is going to in a sense yeah maybe possess somebody that’s kind of that overshadowing but
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maybe if it’s if it’s for an extended period of time that there may start to be a fundamental
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change just like we saw with uh you know chris out of reno nevada that he was changed at the core level
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and that’s what i think is going to happen with this individual so it’s somebody who’s already excited about satan i mean you know he’s already on
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satan’s team but then satan’s gonna be like okay now i’m going to impart myself onto you i’m going to
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imprint myself onto you so that really i become the master you become i don’t take a backseat or something
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and they essentially fuse so that now satan has his own
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uh willing um empowered agent to do things with and so that’s why i
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suggest he really becomes an avatar so and that’s what i would suggest is is the return of
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this beast is it’s the return of the avatar even if it’s a different guy you know the first one was bob the next
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one’s joe that’s fine but it’s the same basic idea sort of a symbiote uh in
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call back to another science fiction series that’s kind of passing along this idea uh stargate sg1
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which built on the film but uh it’s the same idea that the ancient aliens were just or the gods of the ancient world
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were just astronauts but you had this race of servants who were serving some of these uh more powerful entities that
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go old who had a symbiote inside them that gave them additional power uh and and so
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yeah um science fiction kind of telegraphed some of this stuff without maybe even realizing it or knowing what they’re
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doing yes they do um i want to touch on something that’s especially relevant right now i’m sure you’re very much aware of what’s been
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going on in ukraine and and that situation there and anytime russia gets involved militarily with anything um you
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know chechnya when they seize the crimean 2014 their support of uh assad
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and the syrian civil war um there are those who will look at ezekiel 38 and 39 and say ah
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this must be it how do you read that uh
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that prophecy of ezekiel who is gog of magog yeah so i did some research into that
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word and i traced it back to ancient sumerian ah which is probably the oldest
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language in the world although egyptologists might say egyptian is but that’s okay
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so in ancient sumerian the word gog is actually goog and it means um it
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means enmity or death okay okay and i was like wow that’s really interesting okay and the
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thing that that had me kind of tripping is that god is saying in ezekiel 38
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he says are you he of whom i have spoken in former days by my servants the prophets
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of israel who prophesied for years in those days that i would bring you against them
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so where in any other prophet what were the prophets talking about
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this dude named gog the answer nowhere nobody was talking about him
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right and so this really had me perplexed i’m like wait a second how can this be that
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that the god of abraham is saying i’ve been talking about you for a long time and all of my prophets were talking
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about you for years and years and yet we have no record of that i mean maybe they were just saying it never got written
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down but i think that’s kind of a weak theory what i would suggest is once we understand the meaning of the name
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then it becomes clear so the meaning of the name is death or enmity so we’d have
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to kind of trace you know who that is and corrupt the image too i i showed that death and enmity were very much
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uh epithets of satan right he is the the ultimate bad guy and these were things
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that were ascribed to him so you know him and or his team but i think it’s specifically him
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um and so you know one you when you understand that it’s also related to the word uh og
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right king og of bashan and
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which is the snake dragons right right and as you you you so rightly pointed out right we have that
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um that geoglyph um in israel uh of a snake right yeah i
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mean that’s the bashan right that’s right there right next to gilgal rafael there you go x marks the spot right so
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that that just tells us that that whole cult of death uh mount hermon was known
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to be the the mountain of the god of death right and so you know we we see
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that it’s all going back to satan’s team right and and i would say specifically him that
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that um he is the ultimate bad guy and and once i saw that and then the word enmity that
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the sumerian brings on i was like wait that’s what god says specifically in genesis 3 15 i will cause enmity
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between you and the woman between your seed and her seed and i was like oh wow so
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once we decode the name we see that it’s just talking about the the age-old bad guy that we’ve known since the beginning
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right that’s who this is talking about and um you know so it i i’m not of the opinion
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at all that it’s russia obviously what they’re doing today is is terrible and it could that could end
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very badly so i’m not saying that it’s going to be a happy ending by any stretch however i don’t think that what’s
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happening today in ukraine because of the russians i do not think that that is a fulfillment of
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ezekiel 38 and 39. um i i think we’re a long ways off in my opinion ezekiel 38 39 39 is the exact
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same event as the battle of armageddon yes yes and uh i you know yeah i think
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they’re exactly the same it’s just two different prophets telling us in slightly different ways but we have
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major events you’ve got massive hail huge earthquake like never before
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uh you have the destruction of this horde of people that have come against israel which we see all over the place
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right zachariah talks a lot about that as well and uh and then after it’s all done then you know the angels say to the
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birds come on down there’s a big dinner down here come you know you have your fail your fill so i think they’re
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exactly the same thing and i don’t think that it’s going to be any kind of a
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a precursor to you know the tribulation i think that is at the very end of the tribulation
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that’s the battle where jesus himself comes and he does battle and it’s pretty epic
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yeah but it put it mildly yeah what’s god says in ezekiel 39 7 i am the holy one in israel as opposed to of israel
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so because he’s there right now he’s on the field he’s on the battlefield right so yeah no we are in complete agreement
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on that one uh well i give credit to i think i read that in joel richardson’s uh book so i’ll give him credit for that
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but uh it’s it’s spot on it’s the only place in the old testament when you see that um well one other thing then uh armageddon
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um where is where is that yeah so you know we’ve often heard
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traditionally that it’s going to be the valley of megiddo but and then people translate it as har
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megiddo the mountain of megiddo there’s only one problem there’s no mountain in megiddo i mean there’s a towel hotel
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is just a mound that kept getting built up and destroyed over the years but it’s hardly a mountain in fact it’s known as
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a tel and tel is a very ancient word it’s acadian and it means acidity that’s been destroyed and built
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up and been destroyed and built up right so you have tel megiddo but you don’t have
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har magneto you don’t have a mountain of megiddo you have a valley of megiddo
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okay so i think that whole thing fails and um and you know i i did some some slow
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thing myself i didn’t come up with this theory but i uh definitely double checked it and i think it totally checks
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out that excuse me i think armageddon is made up of three words which is
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excuse me is a is a heap or it’s a heap of sheaves okay
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so you know we’re kind of accustomed to uh the tractors going out and they’re harvesting the wheat and it comes out
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just in little little seed like things right but it wasn’t that way before they would have to take their their sith and they
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would cut the grass and then they would bind it so you have this big stack of a wheat and they’d put those all
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together you put a bunch of those together and that is an ahrima so when boaz was sleeping and then ruth came and
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uncovered his feet he was sleeping on a bunch of what we might think of as a pile of hay okay
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and and and really that’s what it is talking about there’s this big heap and the word
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gay is a a word for valley right but it’s specifically more like a canyon not a
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wide open expanse but a more like a canyon and then you have the word don which is
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the infinitive absolute of the word uh don or din and it means to judge
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now it just so happens that there’s a place in joel where he’s talking about
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right the valley of yehosh right and what does that mean it means jehovah judges right right
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and and don are the same exact meaning different words but they’re just synonyms okay
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so it’s in the valley of where jehovah judges and we know where that valley is
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that is the kidron valley right yes uh it’s just down the hill right just down the hill
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from the old city so here’s the old city here’s the kidron valley right here and then coming up this way you have the
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mount of olives right so right in the middle there that’s it so you might say okay so where is armageddon well
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it’s it’s in that basic spot but it doesn’t yet exist when jesus puts his feet on the mount of
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olives and it splits in two then that valley that canyon that that is going to
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be created that will be done it’ll be the valley of the judgment of the sheep right and it’s like oh my
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goodness and here’s the cool thing remember how we talked about exodus and
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god said i would execute judgment on all the gods of egypt well he certainly did that yes and how did he get his people
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out of danger they came up to this thing called the red sea or the reed sea whatever and they were stuck
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right and then god did this really cool miracle he split the waters they went through and then
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he like put a hook in the jaw of pharaoh said come on i double dog dare you come on follow them
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right and pharaoh was like oh okay i think i’ll i’ll think i’ll follow them through these walls of water that seems
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like a great idea and he did and of course boom right he got judged big time
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so here’s the thing i mean this it just blows my mind you know god says i’m gonna put a hook in the jaw of gog and
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i’m like why would you do that lord he’s like well cuz i’m leading him into a trap destruction and debate
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yeah the bait will be the inhabitants of jerusalem they’re the bait but uh this guy is so vainglorious you
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know gog or satan or whoever he’s gonna come in it’s like i’m gonna destroy all you guys and then jesus is gonna be
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right there he puts his foot on the mount of olives and splits them they’re going to flee through the mountain pass
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and then you know satan his or the beast gog whoever you want to call him he and his
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four horses will be like come on let’s go get him guys and they’re going to go into in there but then jesus will be there to meet
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them and he’s going to slice and dice and tread them like grapes and
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they’re going to hate the day that they decided to go into this thing and when they see yeshua they’re just standing
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defending his people they’re gonna be like it’s time to turn around why because his face is shining like the sun
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he’s got rays of light coming out of his hands and that’s where his power resides and
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he’s going he’s ticked and he’s really ticked right and they’re gonna be like turn around but there’s no place to turn
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around right so they’re coming in and then here’s yeshua they’re coming in they’re like oh do it about face but
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there’s all these people behind them so then it’ll be every man will fight against his neighbor and they’re going
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to try to get out and they won’t there’d be a great panic and this is where jesus destroys them
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and uh and then and then the blood comes up to the horse’s bridle now it makes
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sense and it’s not that wide open valley of megiddo right right but it’s a canyon
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with walls on either side and that’s entirely plausible that you could have enough blood to come up to the horse’s
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bridle which is like four or five feet depending on the size of the horse right that’s a lot of blood yeah i mean that’s
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you know and especially if we’re at in up in megiddo i mean i just can’t even imagine how many bodies that would take
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no the the planet yeah i just think it would keep you know finding its own level like what liquids
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do and you’d never come up that high but in a canyon that’s entirely and that’s the kidrone valley and the valley of uh
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the valley of the sun of hinnom which is around the other side of the south end of uh so that’s right yeah yeah that that
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makes a lot more sense you know i’ve heard another explanation for for armageddon that but it reaches the same conclusion
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that it’s right there right so you you reach this independently of that and uh again kudos to you because that and the
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mount hormone stone i mean are just brilliant so um yeah but we we’re
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not there yet obviously i agree with what you’re saying with with russia and what’s happening in ukraine we pray for the
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people that we pray for peace um but we got a ways to go yet before we’re reaching the uh the final battle uh you
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know doug we’re an hour into this and i know that uh i i pray that by the time i’ve edited this people won’t notice that we’ve already had two interruptions
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in this video stream uh which is one of the downsides of living out in the country but uh we’ve only scratched the
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surface of your book it’s book three of the corrupting the image series corrupting the image three
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singularity superhumans and the second coming of jesus and there’s i mean if you love science and you love
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the bible and prophecy um these three books corrupting the image there you you need to have them in your reference
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library where do people go to get the book doug so they can go to douglasamp.com if they
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want to get the ebook and if they want the uh hard copy or the kindle version they can of course go to amazon.com and
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get it there all right links in the show notes to douglashamp.com also to thewaycongregation.com where doug is
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pastor and we’ll put a link into the the notes in case you want the kindle version to amazon
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um i’ve only started reading it myself it seems like all of my reading these days as i’m sure it is
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with you it’s just uh research material for other projects but uh right just a little bit that i’ve
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scanned through here um this is one of those books that’ll take two or three readings to get all of the uh to to really uh get it all to sink in
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so doug thanks for your time tonight i appreciate it appreciate your patience with the signal interruptions and uh uh we pray now that when travel is
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opening up we’ll be able to actually see each other face to face again sooner rather than later thank you for having me
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doug hamp online douglashamp.com and you’ll find links in the show notes to both the books and his website highly
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recommended check those out straight ahead uh while we are recording this this week a week in advance because
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we’re in dallas as you’re watching this assuming you’re watching this in the uh in real time but uh we’ve got some other
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travels ahead including we’re going to tell you about our tour of turkey where you’ll get a chance to visit ground zero
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of one of the most dangerous entities in human history that and more as a view from the bunker
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