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December 10, 2021 at 2:01 pm
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shalom and welcome to this edition of
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revealing the truth where we cover the
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headlines the heartlines and
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biblical truth i’m your host messianic
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rabbi eric walker
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derek gilbert hosts skywatch tv and
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co-host the weekly video program sci
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friday and unraveling revelation with
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his wife author and analyst
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sharon k gilbert derek’s the author of
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the groundbreaking books bad moon
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rising the great inception last class of
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the
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titans the daythirst stands still with
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josh peck and veneration with sharon
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gilbert you can learn more about them at
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gilberthouse.org or skywatch tv
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and joining me now to talk about uh this
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edition of exploring the sensational
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and supernatural and even talk about his
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new book giant gods and dragons exposing
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the fallen realm
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and the plot to ignite the final war of
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the ages
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is our good friend derek gilbert derek
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so good to see you always good to see
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you i always love your insights and
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research and you have
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a pocket full of them today
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in in regards to something that um
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has to do with
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our understanding of
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the mount of olives mount hermon
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even even incorporating caesarea
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philippi
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uh pan’s temple and
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i was on with joan hunter as a good
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friend yesterday and
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we were talking about fear and i said
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you know people
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loosely use the word pandemic
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and pan demonian and
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panic and pan asea
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and they probably in the vocabulary the
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last
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year or 14 months or so in regards to
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covet 19 have invoked the name of the
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false god pan
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more than they have invoked the name of
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jesus
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and this is the veneration
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of a false god when you repeat his name
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over and over and over again don’t have
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an understanding of its
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origin that this was a false god and
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this was literally jesus standing at
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what he says are you going to stand
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before you at the gates of hell
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this was one of the locations that
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as we look across the earth at what
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referred to as the gates of hell
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he says the gates of hell will not
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prevail and on this rock i will build my
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church
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and he was talking to peter and uh this
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was caesarea philippi
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and this is a significant
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part of we have no
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discernment of
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vocabulary and language and
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the words we speak are
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you know i would have to say jesus
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150 times a day more often
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in this coronavirus conversation to
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outweigh
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how many times i’ve honored
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subliminally pan the half-man half-goat
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god of the
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greco-roman empire yeah it’s uh
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this is one of the things that uh the
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research that sharon and i have been
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doing and i want to be clear that we
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don’t take credit for any great wisdom
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on our own part
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anything that we’ve gotten right we
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credit to the lord because
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it’s only through his grace and his
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spirit has granted us a
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modicum of wisdom that we have found
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anything at all
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and i think god must have a sense of
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humor that he’s taken an old top 40
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radio disc jockey and he’s got him
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writing books on theology now
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based on the cosmology of the ancient
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mesopotamians which is
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you know mind-boggling to me but uh it
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i i guess i inherited enough of my
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father’s uh uh
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engineer’s brain to want to understand
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how things work
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and uh unlike my sister who actually you
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know
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designs tire molds for michelin and now
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runs their help center for their
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computer network for their corporate uh
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entity you know all over the world um
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i look at the spirit realm and the
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supernatural to try to take it apart
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and figure out how little pieces fit
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together so god has been very good in
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showing us this
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and a lot of it started with an
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interview that i heard
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more than 10 years ago with a good
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gentleman has become a good friend of
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ours now dr judd burton
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who heads up the institute of biblical
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anthropology
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down in texas and he is an archaeologist
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by training and he did his dissertation
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on pinayas or banayas as it’s called now
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which is the grotto of pan at caesarea
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philippi which is where as you said
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where jesus
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talked with the disciples and uh asked
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them
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who men who do people say that i am and
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some say john the baptist some say
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elijah some say this that
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then he turned to peter said who do you
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say that i am
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jesus chose that’s that location
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specifically and so
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judd in talking with another friend of
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ours dr michael bennett on
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his uh late lamented radio program
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called future quake
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explained that this location was chosen
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specifically
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for two reasons first of all he was in
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front of mount hermon which is a nine
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thousand two hundred foot peak it is
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clearly far and away the tallest
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mountain in the levant which is uh
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uh jordan israel lebanon
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far and away the tallest in the jordan
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rift valley and it was the mountain
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where the canaanites the ancient
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amorites and the
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horrorites the hurrians the everyone who
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lived in that area believed that
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the creator god called l not to be
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confused with el
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shaddai you know god almighty but l of
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the canaanites their creator god
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held court on the summit of mount hermon
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with his consort ashrae
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whose epithet was dragon lady
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interestingly enough and
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their 70 sons which represented the gods
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of all the nations
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well jesus at the foot of that mountain
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said on this rock
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i will build my church he was not
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referring to
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petros or peter simon peter
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he was referring to this nine thousand
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two hundred foot mountain right behind
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him
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those references in the old testament
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scattered throughout
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here and there references to hermong and
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bashan
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are there because that area was believed
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to be the domain of the fallen
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jews understood what their neighbors
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believed the prophets and apostles
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certainly understood it jesus knew it
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and so he took the disciples to caesarea
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philippi and said on this rock i will
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build my church and the gates of hell
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which is the grotto of pan this cave
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that used to be
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the origin point of the jordan river
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earthquakes have changed that in the
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years since now it comes out further
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away from the mountain but
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it was believed that that was literally
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the entrance to the netherworld the
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gates of hell which are right over here
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shall not prevail against it and i know
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you’ve been there and we’ve been blessed
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to be there twice now and both times
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i’ve been able to
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explain the significance of that
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event of jesus confirming to peter that
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yes i
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am the messiah right there in front of
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the grotto of pan
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and people who’ve never heard this
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before like i did more than 10 years ago
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when i heard judd burton explain this to
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michael bennett like
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what you mean god knew that the
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because we’ve all been raised believing
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that these pagan gods of the ancient
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world
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were imaginary they were like the
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imaginary friends who guided the great
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civilizations of the ancient world the
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egyptians and the assyrians and the
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babylonians and the sumerians and the
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romans and the
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they all had these this pantheon of
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imaginary creatures that
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caused them to do all these things but
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then jesus
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right there did this like
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okay that’s a paradigm shift right there
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and you can see it in the faces of
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people when they go
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there and you explain this to them and
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you’re able to point to this huge cave
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entrance right here where the pagans
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used to offer their sacrifices and throw
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them into the water and if they sank
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they believed the gods had accepted the
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sacrifice and it was taken down to the
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netherworld
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suddenly the light dawns that changes
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everything in fact dr burton says
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when you are confronted by people who
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have not yet accepted this paradigm and
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say why do you spend so much time
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talking about
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the giants from before the flood how do
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we know they were real why are they
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important why do they matter to us today
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as christians
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judd’s answer is two words caesarea
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philippi
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because jesus did that right there and
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then
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shortly thereafter the gospels tell us
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he climbed a very high mountain and that
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can only be mount vermont because it’s
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the only very high mountain in the
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vicinity of caesarea philippi
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and that’s where the transfiguration
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took place jesus
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was in a sense sending a flare into the
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spirit realm
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declaring his divinity saying yes i am
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the prophesied one
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i am that i am
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what are you going to do about it and
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elijah and moses
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appeared there with him peter james and
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john were
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freaked out peter wanted to build booths
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which is why i think the feast of
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tabernacles another reason i think the
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feast of tabernacles is so important but
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i digress and from there jesus then made
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his way to jerusalem to complete his
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mission which the fallen realm could not
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help
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but assist in they were so infuriated
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or confused by into thinking that
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because he was fully human as well as
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fully god hey
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if we kill him now like in the parable
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of the evil tenants
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if we kill the son of the owner of the
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vineyard
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we’ll get his inheritance they thought
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if they sent jesus to the cross
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they would fulfill the mission now
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interestingly you mentioned the mount of
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olives and this is
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some of the research that’s coming from
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my forthcoming book saturn’s reign
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jesus spent the last week of his life
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alternating between
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the temple and the mount of olives he
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was crucified
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on the mount of olives that’s what the
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research suggests
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uh he raised lazarus on the mount of
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olives that final week
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he uh was betrayed on
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the garden of gethsemane on the mount of
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olives his burial tomb on the mount of
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olives so he descended into the
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netherworld according to first peter 3
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verses 19 and 20
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i believe that first peter 3 i think
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it’s around 19 and 20 anyway where he
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proclaimed to the spirits
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in prison and scholars have looked at
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that say no these are the
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spirits who who disobeyed
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when god’s patience was waiting in the
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days of noah in other words he’s talking
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about
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the sons of god from genesis chapter six
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the ones who
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uh created the nephilim through their
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unions their illicit unions with human
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women
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so again you’ve got this reference back
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to mount hermon because that’s
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where it was believed they descended and
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made their mutual pact to corrupt
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humanity
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jesus descended to proclaim his victory
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to them
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from the mount of olives he returned his
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resurrection was
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declared at the tomb on the mount of
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olives and according to zechariah 14 he
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will return
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to the mount of olives that’s a very
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significant location and i didn’t really
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understand that until recently when i
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started putting all these pieces
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together and
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the connection between hormone the
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amount of olives and other locations in
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the jordan valley
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very very significant you know these are
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the reasons why we encourage people to
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go
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on these trips with us to israel to
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experience this to see it
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to be in that place and see the bible
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come alive
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in the physical location and be able to
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connect the dots
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you can’t read that on a flat piece of
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paper and unless you have
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the last book of the bible which is the
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least read
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book of the bible and that’s the book of
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maps
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then you don’t have any real reference
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point
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as to the physical locations and so when
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you plot out
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journeys and pilgrimages and you look at
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where bethany was
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and why this was the headquarters if you
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will of the last four days of jesus life
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and what the locale was
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and when you go into the old city
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and you are navigating from
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as you go from the garden of gethsemane
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and you cross
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the street over you get on the bus and
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you cross over and
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enter the old city and you’re kind of
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walking around and you’re you’re taking
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this journey
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uh the the stations of the cross
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and you wind up back at the garden tomb
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you’ve kind of lost geographical
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geopositioning you kind of don’t realize
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exactly where you are and you tend to
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think that you’re still
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in the old city you’ve just gone outside
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a particular wall
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well that’s not the case you’ve
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circumvented all that
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and returned back uh to this place on
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the mount of olives and so
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people don’t connect that they seem to
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think it’s all related to jerusalem
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or city of david or all those things
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which also talks about
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the fact that
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the church of the holy sepulchre which
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is
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inside the city walls inside the city
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gates
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would be the burial ground of jesus
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doesn’t add up it doesn’t make sense
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because he was not a clean
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sacrifice and so the levitical system
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would not permit him to be sacrificed
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within the walls of jerusalem
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nothing unclean and we look at him as
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the beautiful lamb without blemish or
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spot but in the end he wore
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sin upon him he was defiled by
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our very sin and his
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exit although his entrance was
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the eastern gate the golden gate the
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gate that the king would arrive in his
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exit was through the sheepgate he was
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now
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just another one of the lambs
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who would be sacrificed on passover and
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so
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when we connect all that and you step
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through all that and you make that
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journey
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and you stop in those locations they’re
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specifically
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designed so that you can see
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nimrod’s castle you can see pan’s grotto
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you can see
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how all this and who the
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um the
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sons and and and daughters and and the
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false gods of of these
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um fallen angels
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the mighty men of renown who
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were the creators if you will
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of the demonic who were
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looking travelers they were looking for
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places
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of occupancy they traveled looking for
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human host they were disembodied and so
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they were
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spirit and we see that throughout the
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scriptures and we
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understand it when jesus talks to the
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man who’s got a legion
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of of uh demons in him
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that they’re looking for send us
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into they’re looking for another host
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they don’t have a physical presence
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there was a movie years ago denzel
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washington that was really quite
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profound it was called fallen right yes
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and it’s probably and and they used
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zazel as the reference point
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and it was probably one of the most
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biblically explicit
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depictions of how spirits
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transfer from one person to another
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the demonic looking for
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a human host and it was just through
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simple contact
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it was moving from one to another and
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ultimately he was able to defeat it
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by destroying
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the final host and
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there was nowhere else for it to go well
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almost because it went into the cat and
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the cat ran off and that was said to say
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yeah
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almost got me but not quite right so uh
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yeah
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but that just proves my my belief that
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cats are evil but uh
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i i joke of course my mother has uh had
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cats for years so uh
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but you’re right it is an interesting
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look at that uh that that conflict and
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the fact that these entities
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uh demonic entities which are the
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spirits of the nephilim destroyed in the
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flood that was understood by the early
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church
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until the time of augustine when he
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popularized a belief that
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well no that that whole thing was just
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allegory and that the whole sons of seth
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siri
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theory took over and has been the
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dominant belief among christian
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theologians for the last 1600 years
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that was not the belief of the early
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church it was not the belief of the jews
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of the second temple period and that’s
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clear in the septuagint translation of
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the bible which was completed about 300
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years before the birth of jesus
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they understood the connection between
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the titans of greek religion the old
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gods were confined to the netherworld
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and the sons of god of genesis chapter 6
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who likewise were in the underworld and
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i’m going to argue in saturn’s reign
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that there’s a possibility that we have
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misunderstood
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isaiah chapter 14 for uh many many years
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it’s
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commonly believed and i still hold that
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this is the probable explanation that
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isaiah 14 ezekiel 28 which are parallel
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chapters
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describe the fall of lucifer satan from
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the garden
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but there is a uh a strange
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um contradiction there that we we have
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not yet reconciled which is that in
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genesis chapter three that rebel is
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called the nakash which is a
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word that’s used interchangeably with
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serpent and we see in
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isaiah and in numbers that phrase used
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interchangeably
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nakash with sarah which is the singular
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form of seraphim
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we get a description of the seraphim in
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isaiah chapter 6 when he gets his throne
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room vision
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and they’re very different from the
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caribbean the cherubim
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which are described in uh in ezekiel 28
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rather this rebel is described as the
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guardian cherub
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who covered so what do we make of that
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is he a
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serpentine brilliant serpentine
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appearance like the seraphim a burning
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one or is he this uh
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four-faced uh bull-like sphinx
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which is how the cherubim are described
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by ezekiel in ezekiel chapters 1 and 10.
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i would suggest that this that isaiah 14
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because it also makes reference to later
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in isaiah 14 makes reference to
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asher or the assyrian but asher was the
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name of an entity
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the chief god of the assyrians who was
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equated with enlil
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and thus el and dagon same entity by
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different names
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and saturn and kronos all the same
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entity but by different names and that
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this
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in the context of isaiah 14 may be the
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entity that’s being referred to here
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and that also the king of babylon who is
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referenced in
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the early part of isaiah 14 isaiah 14
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verse 4 the king of babylon that’s
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babel could also be the king of babel
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because the term babel
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refers to the tower and the location of
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the tower back in genesis
December 11, 2021 at 9:16 am
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the tower back in genesis
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chapter 10 9-10
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so i think this may be a coded reference
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to this particular entity in other words
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the leader of the sons of god who
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descended to mount hermon
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back in genesis 6. this could be a
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reference to
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shemi yaza who was thrown down to the
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netherworld shale is stirred up to meet
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you
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when you come isaiah 14 verse 9 it
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rouses the rephaim
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translated shades in our english bibles
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to greet you all who are leaders of the
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earth
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satan was cast out of heaven but he
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wasn’t necessarily cast out to
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shale we read in the book of job that
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he’s still walking to and fro in the
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earth
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he still has access to heaven not so
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this entity shemija and of course we
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know from greek and roman mythology that
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saturn kronos
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was confined to the netherworld the
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ancient mesopotamian myths about
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enlil show that later in his career when
20:54
marduk the
20:55
chief god of babylon took over the
20:57
headship of the pantheon there enloe was
20:59
confined to the netherworld
21:01
the the hurrian and hittite equivalent
21:02
kumarbi was overthrown by the storm god
21:05
their version of zeus jupiter bale
21:08
and kumarbi was confined to the
21:10
netherworld
21:12
where he would have been greeted by
21:14
these shades the spirits of the children
21:16
that he and his colleagues engendered
21:18
when they rebelled against god back in
21:19
genesis chapter six
21:21
um so i i think there’s a possibility
21:24
here that we
21:25
are seeing something in isaiah 14 or
21:27
there may be something in isaiah 14 that
21:29
we haven’t seen
21:30
yet that this entity saturn kronos
21:33
l enlil dagan etc is the one who was
21:36
cast out in isaiah 14 and ezekiel 28
21:39
that eliminates the confusion are we
21:41
talking about satan as an akash or as a
21:43
cherub is he a seraph or is he a cherub
21:46
well there’s no conflict because of
21:48
ezekiel 28 is talking about a
21:50
cherub that could be shemi yaza and
21:53
his other fellow sons of god
21:56
i’m not going to die in this theological
21:58
hill i’m just proposing this as an
22:00
alternate explanation to kick around
22:01
and maybe others who are smarter than me
22:03
can come up with some additional
22:05
points of view on this but i do think
22:08
it’s interesting
22:09
that this entity l when we
22:12
look at the neighbors of ancient israel
22:15
and study what they believed about their
22:17
chief gods
22:19
we know that um the ammonites who lived
22:22
east of the jordan river south of the
22:26
region of bashan that was formerly
22:28
controlled by ogh of bashan their chief
22:30
god was called
22:30
milcom and a scholar did a study of the
22:34
uh
22:34
the the names used uh by the ammonites
22:38
in in the records scholars call this the
22:40
onomasticon
22:41
just a fancy word for study of names and
22:45
in the ancient world it was common to
22:46
include the name of a deity
22:48
in personal names they called it the
22:50
theophoric element
22:52
in the names we see it in uh say
22:53
jeremiah hezeki
22:55
yeah micah l daniel
23:00
in the ammonite pantheon even though
23:02
milcom
23:03
was their chief god the most common
23:07
theophoric element or god name was l
23:10
and again not l as in l god of the bible
23:13
but l of the canaanites right
23:15
his conclusion was that milcom was
23:18
simply an
23:19
epithet or a nickname or a title applied
23:22
to
23:23
el nilcon essentially an alternate form
23:26
of melech meaning
23:27
king so they were simply calling their
23:30
chief god
23:31
king and likewise the
23:34
derogatory form of that name molech
23:38
was another term for el
23:42
well solomon in the the generation after
23:45
david
23:46
after building the temple was led by his
23:49
foreign wives to build a number of high
23:50
places including a high place for the
23:52
god of the ammonites
23:54
milcom on the mount of olives
23:57
so he built a high place for this king
24:00
god
24:02
east of the temple visible probably
24:05
from the gate that messiah will re-enter
24:08
in when he comes back
24:12
and that led the uh that led the the
24:15
rabbis and the
24:17
the the priests to refer to the mount of
24:19
olives as the mount of corruption or the
24:20
mount of the
24:22
heat i don’t know if i’m pronouncing the
24:24
hebrew word correctly but
24:26
uh essentially mount of the destroyer
24:28
right
24:29
and i think this then adds a little bit
24:32
of uh
24:33
evidence to the identity of a mysterious
24:35
character in revelation chapter nine
24:37
that being apollyon or abaddon
24:40
the destroyer you know it’s interesting
24:43
when you talk about isaiah 14 and we
24:46
take a look at at the offspring
24:50
these are the demonic the demons who are
24:52
held
24:53
captive and then unleashed to torment
24:56
men
24:57
for a period of time
25:01
the the the the shield opens up and
25:05
when you think about these numerics of
25:09
how many fell with with
25:12
satan uh everybody kicks around
25:14
one-third but that’s not in the bible
25:17
the the number’s not in the bible it’s
25:18
not many and
25:20
you know it’s how many angels can fit on
25:21
the head of a pen it’s it’s many
25:24
but we also know that there was a number
25:26
of
25:28
those that were confined who would not
25:32
be released until
25:34
a future time to torment men but there
25:37
was still
25:38
the free-flowing demonic activity of
25:41
those that were
25:42
not confined so we know it’s a reduced
25:44
number
25:45
we know that it’s worldwide
25:49
we see the demonic activity we see
25:53
deliverances we see that activity
25:56
we see in mental disorders
25:59
we see in so many different ways
26:02
manifesting itself
26:04
that we know that there’s enough out
26:06
there to torment
26:07
men that satan’s
26:10
heavily at work the time of satan’s
26:14
final battle with michael where he is
26:17
finally kicked out is
26:21
described but we’re not given a timeline
26:24
for it and the only reference point we
26:27
really have is in luke 10 18
26:30
where jesus says i saw satan fall like
26:33
lightning from heaven
26:35
and then he goes on to give us the
26:38
authority
26:39
and reinstates our authority when
26:41
dominion which we lost in the garden
26:43
he re-establishes that that we as
26:46
believers in him
26:47
now are empowered by the power and the
26:50
anointing of the holy spirit our faith
26:51
in
26:52
jesus the command we have over god’s
26:54
word even goes on to say we’ll do even
26:56
greater
26:57
than he did i can’t even imagine what
26:59
that might
27:00
look like but then i also go to the
27:02
first day of creation
27:04
where god separated the light from the
27:06
darkness and
27:08
was that the point of
27:11
calling the light good and jesus was the
27:15
light of the world was this the first
27:17
foray into creating division between
27:19
late and darkness was this
27:21
the first foray into the darkness
27:25
being satan exiting
27:28
heaven but not permanently kicked out
27:30
but his
27:31
fall because we really have never come
27:34
up with a great explanation
27:36
as to what the entities were that god
27:40
created that were light and dark they
27:42
weren’t the sun and the moon that was
27:44
specifically created
27:46
later on so when we search for these
27:50
reference points
27:52
and we take a look at even things like
27:54
the
27:55
wall of flies in the plague
27:58
that divided goshen from egypt this
28:01
would be a
28:02
black wall a straight line wall not a
28:05
single fly
28:06
on the goshen side so you have to see
28:10
this huge divide this wall of darkness
28:14
when we see them getting ready for the
28:16
crossing of the red sea
28:18
and the pillar of cloud goes behind them
28:21
and he bathes the israelites in light
28:23
and he
28:24
bathes the egyptians in darkness we see
28:28
another clearing clear
28:30
division exactly that same separation of
28:33
light and dark that we see in the
28:34
beginning
28:35
and it talks about the angel of the lord
28:38
or the angel of god which is always the
28:40
pre-incarnate yeshua
28:42
so if if we add all these
28:45
up it becomes logical to conclude
28:48
that that original divide that
28:50
separation of good and evil
28:52
light and dark that god was his first
28:55
act
28:57
the first command of the bible let there
29:00
be light
29:02
was the declaration of
29:05
the releasing of
29:08
the preincarnate yeshua into the world
29:11
at the same time
29:13
that satan is cast from heaven
29:18
but this is his fall this is not his
29:20
imminent final battle with
29:22
michael this is the beginning of
29:27
addressing this chaos that was
29:30
not
29:34
god doesn’t create chaos so it would
29:36
explain
29:37
that that the spirit would hover over
29:41
the deep and then god would say so the
29:44
spirit had to fall
29:45
first and we see that pattern again when
29:48
the spirit falls on messiah
29:50
and then god speaks so there’s a pattern
29:54
the spirit falls and then god speaks
29:58
and it it’s paralleled
30:02
god doesn’t speak until the spirit falls
30:04
the spirit like a dove
30:06
lit upon messiah and then god spoke
30:09
so we’re seeing this new creation we’re
30:11
seeing creation and new creation
30:14
all occur at the same time and the
30:15
parallels are very very
30:18
specific we don’t really know the
30:21
timeline
30:22
it wouldn’t surprise me if it was a
30:24
period of 40 days
30:27
because it just calls in the beginning
30:30
there’s no reference point to that time
30:32
frame but
30:33
every other time frame had 40 in it and
30:36
every other time frame was
30:37
and jesus was immediately honestly taken
30:40
up out of the water
30:41
taken into this quote on case quote
30:44
temptation uh this testing uh
30:47
and 40 has been the number of testing so
30:50
that would not surprise
30:51
me in
30:55
informed desumptive
30:58
conclusion drawing or inference if you
31:01
would
31:02
that these are kind of the patterns of
31:04
god
31:06
but people are so unfamiliar with the
31:08
locations
31:10
nimrod’s castle being one of them and
31:13
what took place there and why it was
31:15
geographically located
31:17
in the place that it was and
31:20
how important mount hermon was how
31:23
important that
31:24
elijah and moses
31:28
these were the two established in
31:32
scripture
31:32
moses said one will come after me god
31:34
will appoint a prophet
31:36
like me who will come after me
31:39
and basically he creates a scenario that
31:42
you are to do
31:43
what he teaches you or to
31:46
follow him or you’ll be cut off from
31:49
your people
31:50
well when you think about the statement
31:52
follow me
31:54
there’s no prophet throughout the bible
31:56
that ever spoke the words follow me
31:58
but yet those were two words significant
32:00
enough to motivate peter
32:03
and matthew to get up from what they
32:06
were doing
32:07
recognizing that this was the
32:09
proclamation made in the prophecy
32:12
because moses
32:13
was the prophet of israel that
32:16
that this was who moses was talking
32:19
about
32:20
he’s the one then elijah was to come to
32:24
announce
32:25
the coming of messiah under biblical
32:29
mandate bill
32:30
law by the testimony of two or more
32:32
witnesses something had to be
32:33
established and so therefore it had to
32:35
be
32:36
two witnesses there with messiah
32:40
both of which predicted the coming of
32:42
messiah
32:44
and are the two definitive characters
32:46
that’s why at passover we set
32:48
the table for elijah to come
32:52
and expect him to come to announce uh
32:56
the coming of messiah and so none of
32:58
these things are accidental they’re not
33:00
not coincidental and people tend to
33:03
not fit them neatly together because
33:07
in this period of time as you and i have
33:09
talked about in this inter-testamental
33:11
period
33:12
the greek influence is so strong
33:16
the greek philosophy and mythiology
33:18
mythology is
33:19
so strong and the assimilation is so
33:22
great that it it actually
33:26
permeates society and those
33:29
like the essenes who bore witness to
33:32
this
33:33
and then saw the formation of the
33:35
pharisees and those who were
33:39
the teachers of the law and ignoring
33:43
all these other truths
33:46
and trying to establish their
33:49
authority on earth and ignoring
33:52
this spiritual battle that was taking
33:54
place between the greco-roman
33:57
gods and the god of abraham isaac and
34:01
jacob
34:02
they packed up and pulled away and went
34:04
off on their own and said
34:06
we want nothing to do with you right
34:09
you’re you’re defiled
34:10
by your own entertainment by your own
34:14
you’re under this spell and you’re
34:16
creating these
34:17
false gods and you’re calling them
34:20
yourself
34:21
and that was the big issue that jesus
34:24
had
34:24
we’re talking with derek gilbert
34:28
as we have so enjoyed talking to
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over the course of all these years
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prolific author
34:36
extraordinary researcher just like his
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an extraordinary researcher and we
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certainly look forward to the release of
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the new book
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but the latest book is giant gods and
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we’re taking a short break and when we
35:02
come back we’ll return to the subject
35:05
of the mount of olives and even some
35:08
discussion about the temple
35:10
mount and some of the things that have
35:11
been happening in
35:13
recent days of the recording of
35:17
muslims dancing on the temple mount and
35:20
breaking the laws of the temple mountain
35:22
the move
35:23
to advance the ownership of clear
35:26
title and jurisdiction of the temple
35:29
mount to
35:30
israel is a precursor
35:34
to the building of the
35:38
tribulation temple the third temple and
35:41
that has great significance as well
35:44
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35:45
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so they are cranking it out and if you
41:01
haven’t followed sharon gilbert’s
41:03
uh books or series that are uh
41:07
taking i i i see nothing but rave
41:10
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faithful and loyal to her as an author
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and the two of you are certainly a match
41:21
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amen that
41:26
i know your father said you married up
41:28
and uh
41:30
you know i think that the two of you
41:33
as researchers and the depth you go to
41:37
are really quite unique in
41:40
the body of messiah and i have the
41:43
utmost respect for what you do and what
41:45
you bring to the table
41:48
we don’t we don’t spend enough time
41:51
as our good friend mike heiser talks
41:54
about in that inner testamental period
41:56
trying to understand the context
41:58
of what life was like during those 400
42:01
years
42:02
it’s easy to take the written word uh
42:04
ending in second chronicles in my bible
42:07
and in malachi in your bible
42:09
and analyzing that and looking at that
42:11
and then you’ve got this 400 year gap
42:13
and it’s as if we’ve gone into this
42:16
this uh chasm um
42:20
of of we don’t know what happened and
42:23
nobody tells us what happened and so we
42:25
have to wait until we get to the book of
42:26
matthew to
42:28
hear the story and people don’t realize
42:31
that what took place
42:32
was geopolitical and social
42:36
and mythological and had to do with gods
42:39
and other gods and the fight
42:42
to maintain the remnant
42:46
that were not being overrun what brought
42:49
the maccabees
42:50
into being to rise up
42:54
against this desecration of the temple
42:58
was a divine appointment and
43:01
yet the book of enoch and other
43:05
of the inter-testamental period writings
43:07
have been completely
43:08
discounted either as satanic or as
43:14
inaccurate and yes the truth is they’re
43:18
not canonized but
43:19
neither is the talmud neither neither is
43:24
strong’s concordance uh it’s not
43:28
canonized
43:29
so you know when we look and we want to
43:31
understand
43:32
the geopolitical
43:35
context the what was going on at the
43:38
time we
43:39
have to understand that 400 years
43:42
between the last prophetic voice
43:45
and the coming of messiah and if we
43:48
don’t we don’t understand
43:52
the starting point it’s like it’s like
43:54
missing
43:56
uh four or five volumes
43:59
of a book series and
44:02
you finish in book six and you’re
44:05
starting book 11
44:07
and you know what happened in between
44:11
right you have this huge gap of
44:13
understanding and then people like you
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and i come along and start talking about
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these kind of things and they go well
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uh you completely lost us we don’t
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understand but it’s right there
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in the middle of that period that all
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this is taking place
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and it’s what they’re fighting against
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the israelites are still
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fighting against this these are their
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sworn enemies
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because these were the false gods and
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we were warned about the false gods and
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assimilation
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all the way through the text even into
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the modern day
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assimilation is something that’s frowned
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upon within the jewish world
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that’s one of the reasons that sharon
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and i um
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following the publication of a couple of
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books by a friend of ours doug woodward
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who’s written two volumes of a book
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called rebooting
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the bible in which he compares the
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english translations that we have to the
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septuagint which was the
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translation from hebrew into greek
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completed about the year 300
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bc so about 300 years before jesus birth
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these
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70 scholars which is where we get the
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name septuagint
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working in alexandria egypt under the
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direction of the
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greek king of egypt ptolemy
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who wanted a version of the hebrew
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scriptures that
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greek speakers and greek readers could
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could understand commissioned these
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jewish scholars to translate their
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hebrew
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scriptures into into greek and so we’ve
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got
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a time stamp on that edition of
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the bible copies of that still exist
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have been translated into english
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there is the uh the brenton translation
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which is
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uh in the public domain your viewers can
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find it online and
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and search through it there there’s been
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a more modern translation by
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faith life um the publisher is the logo
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study bible which is a more modern
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english rendering of the
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the older text but the point that’s
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relevant here and what doug was
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was was trying to communicate in his
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books and and does so very well
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rebooting the bible is that there are
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some key differences between
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the septuagint bible this
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which was the bible that would have been
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used of the scriptures that were
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available
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to the uh to the apostles in the first
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century a.d
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and the masoretic hebrew text
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which is what our english translations
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are based on right
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and the masoretes didn’t complete their
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bible uh didn’t complete their
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translations or their
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scriptures their copies until about the
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10th century a.d
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so we’re talking about 1200 years
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difference between the septuagint and
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the masoretic text
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on which our english translations are
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based and so when you compare
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anything in the old testament from our
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bibles to the
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septuagint translation look for
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some some key differences here in fact i
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was thinking about one that i should
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have mentioned earlier which
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i think is really intriguing is that in
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ezekiel chapter 28
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which is again is that that chapter that
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probably refers to the casting out of
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the rebel from eden
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um and it uh it makes reference to
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placing you
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uh let me see if i can find the the
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scripture here very quickly you were an
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anointed guardian cherub i placed you
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you were on the holy mountain of god in
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the midst of the stones of fire you
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walked
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and by the way speaking of another
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inter-testamental text you mentioned the
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book of enoch
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dr michael heiser points out that the
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description in
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the book of enoch of the the angels who
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sinned who were being punished
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being described in the netherworld as
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burning mountains
47:48
suggest that the stones of fire here in
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ezekiel 28 are not the asteroid belt
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this is not the breakup of the planet
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rahab into the asteroid belt
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these are the entities the other
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supernatural entities that were with
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adam and eve in the garden
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in the midst of the stones of fire you
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walked but the septuagint translation
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reads this from the day you were created
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i placed you
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with the cherub in the holy mountain of
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god you came to be in the middle of
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fiery stones
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and then verse 16 reads because of the
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abundance of your merchandise you filled
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your treasuries with lawnessness
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lawlessness and you were sinned and were
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wounded from the mountain of god
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and the cherub led you out of the middle
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of the fiery stones in other words
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this is not the cherub who sinned he was
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there with the guardian sheriff who
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covered who was responsible for kicking
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him out so
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that’s a key difference there and
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doug has pointed out that the septuagint
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translation in a number of places
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de-emphasizes the existence of other
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supernatural
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entities or rather the masoretic text
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over the septuagint
48:51
the septuagint acknowledges the
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existence of these other
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spirit beings if you will like the
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cherubim makes reference to
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the giants and the titans in certain
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phrases where they’ve been translated
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out
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and into our english bibles as shades or
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mighty men and and so on so yeah it’s
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it’s worth
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looking at that septuagint to get an
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idea of what was in the minds of jewish
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religious scholars during this
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inter-testamental period this period
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between
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uh well second chronicles in your bible
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malachi and our bible
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uh and uh the beginning of the uh uh the
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new testament
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so it’s so fascinating so
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extraordinarily exciting that
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we are able to uncover this one of the
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beautiful parts about the fact that the
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septuagint was translated into greek by
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jewish scholars allowed us to come up
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with a complete hebrew bible
49:44
which then took the same methodology
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that they used to convert the hebrew to
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greek to apply the greek
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hebrew of the new testament so that we
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have an entire
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uh complete hebrew bible
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which includes and using
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the hebrew text of revelation
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as opposed to the greek text of
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revelation we’re able to recapture
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the imagery and the linguistic
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tools that
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the jewish mind of john
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was employing and the 500 references to
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the old testament become much clearer
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in the hebrew translation of it than it
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does in the greek translation because
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what he does is he uses flawed greek
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semantically to kind of make little
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those little stickers with pointers on
50:43
it and and
50:45
he because he’s so fluent in greek that
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when he makes an
50:48
error he makes it on purpose to say you
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need to look somewhere
50:52
disappointing you got to go look
50:54
somewhere else don’t look here
50:56
look somewhere else for the real answer
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for what i’m telling you
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and he used it as a as as pointers well
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when you get
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into the complete hebrew text
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of the entirety of the bible we don’t
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have to employ those
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those images because they’re already
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there they’re already there in the name
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of
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leviathan they’re already there in nehes
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they’re already
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there in the plagues of exodus
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chapter 12 and so 10-12 so
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it becomes easier for the
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jewish scholar to examine
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the new testament in a hebrew context
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because
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it were such a picturesque these are
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word pictures every word
51:43
and every letter has a picture to it and
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it’s it’s
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uh although it was the first
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language of the time it was a second
51:53
language to the hebrew mind it’s still
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a second language to the hebrew mind and
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so
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things like um uh
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you know does the bible say there has to
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be a third temple
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well there’s no line in the bible that
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says that there has to be
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a third temple okay but
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the restoration of jewish worship
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implies
52:20
that you can’t have jewish worship
52:21
unless you have at least an altar
52:23
which is where zerubbabel started so if
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you have an
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altar there’s gonna be a covering over
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the altar and
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that itself would be a third temple
52:33
whether it’s ornate whether or not it’s
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completed whether or not it’s
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it’s anything more than a hippa anything
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more than a canopy
52:42
it’s going to be considered to be the
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third temple regardless of
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what the iteration of it does if it’s
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gold it’s great
52:49
if it’s got beautiful rooms it’s great
52:52
it was just an
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altar and a covering and a labra bowl
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and a menorah and table show bread and
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an altar of incense
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it’s the temple so the concept of naos
53:05
your body is the temple of the lord
53:07
would say that well
53:09
you could still have the defilement and
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the abomination of desolation we would
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happen to have
53:14
have to happen to everybody and
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that’s less natural to me than
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uh having a physical
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spot but unfortunately you and i have
53:27
run out of time
53:29
but i will get to see you again uh
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on may the 10th and so i am so looking
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forward
53:35
to that time together and uh just pray
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blessings on you
53:40
on the new studios there our
53:44
best regards to tom and the entire team
53:47
at skywatch
53:48
and as the future changes we will
53:54
be in touch and talk about uh some
53:56
transitional thoughts and some new ideas
53:59
and uh look for ways to continue to
54:01
partner
54:02
in the future because these are kingdom
54:05
friendships that uh were not birthed by
54:07
accident
54:08
uh amen there’s there are connections
54:10
here that are
54:12
long-lasting and enduring and so we
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appreciate that
54:15
amen blessings to you jason and your
54:18
ministry look forward to
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talking with you again on may 10 god
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bless you my friend we’re going to take
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a short break and when we come back
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we’ll bring you the next edition of
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