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you’ll find it anyway folks without any
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further ado
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i just want to show you some ufo
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pictures here
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because drew and i are going to be
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talking
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about all things ufology folks thanks
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for tuning in the politics prophecy and
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the supernatural report our very special
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guest today
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drew graffia he’s a lecturer author um
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he has his own show and it’s just i’ve
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never met drew we were supposed to meet
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last year
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at the nephilim again conference but it
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didn’t happen because of
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the goofy coven so so here we are but
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drew thanks so much for coming on really
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appreciate it
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my pleasure i’m glad to do this um i
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want to talk about
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uh ufology ufos um uaps
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unidentified aerial phenomena we we’ve
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seen this steady
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uh sort of revealing of the so-called
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extraterrestrial presence now
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since 2017 and it’s not going away the
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pentagon has stated
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emphatically that we have in our
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possession the united states government
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has in its possession
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off-world vehicles not made on this
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earth so i i know you’ve been tracking
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this like i have
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what are your thoughts when you hear
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stuff like that my thoughts are
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i have two main thoughts the first one
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is what a
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what a perfect time to disclose
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something like this while everyone is
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distracted with kobit while lives are
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being drastically changed
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people don’t have the normal capacity
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that they would
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to maybe question this maybe maybe push
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back maybe ask for answers
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because everybody’s just worried with
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keeping their day-to-day going so you
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slip this in there here and there and
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this kind of eases people
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into this idea of these beings being
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revealed
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now the other thing i think of is we see
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throughout the biblical text
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and other religious texts a record of
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beings coming down and interacting with
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humanity
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and every time they do there is an
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exchange of knowledge
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and a corruption that follows so
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are these beings those same those same
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fallen angels let’s say from genesis you
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know
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the babylonians called them the anunnaki
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the sumerian or they call them the
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abkhalu the sumerians call them the
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anunnaki are these those beings
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because they exchange information they
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could be or they could be
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related to their offspring you know but
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but the thing is we have a track record
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of
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interacting with beings that aren’t
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humans and it doesn’t go well it ends in
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corruption
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i like i like your closing statement it
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doesn’t go well yeah
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that’s that might be an understatement
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but it certainly is uh
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something to to ponder and think about
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and you know let me ask you this
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we know that when jesus is here
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uh you know he’s he’s talking about all
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these things and
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and people ask him you know what what’s
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going to be like the end of the age and
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let no man deceive you many will come in
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my name and we see that i mean i
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actually do a report on this where we’ve
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got
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all these guys i’m i’m it i’m i’m a
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second coming and of course they’re not
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they’re a bunch of imposters but one of
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the things that
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he says that jesus says which has always
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you know really stuck with me it will be
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like the days of noah
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when i return i mean it’s he’s like he’s
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throwing us
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a bone here remember people don’t don’t
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well i i’m assuming most people don’t
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connect the dots here but
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when he’s saying this there is no new
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testament hasn’t been written yet so all
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he’s got to draw from
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is the tanakh the old testament what are
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your thoughts when you hear that
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be like the days of noah well when you
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think of the main parts of the days of
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noah it’s evil continually on the hearts
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of man
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and that comes from a depravity being
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introduced
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and then the main thing you think of in
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the context of noah is
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the descent of the watchers like i said
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the exchange of knowledge and then the
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creation of a new race
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they made they sought to make men in
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their image
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these fallen beings and that image was
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corrupted so therefore their sons were
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corrupted
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another corrupted race that’s on the
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planet so now if it’s going to be just
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like that then you have these
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fallen angels maybe seeding another race
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that by its very creation by its very
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nature is corrupted
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so i mean we have the blueprint for this
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throughout the biblical text and it’s
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i don’t see how people can see these
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things and think they’re benevolent when
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you see them abducting people
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you see them basically treating us like
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lab rats so
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how could they be such an advanced
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civilization if they’re
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if the way they go about things is by
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treating humans as experimental objects
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do you think that darwinism and the
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whole evolution
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evolutionary paradigm do you think
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that’s affected anything i mean do you
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think that
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uh you know it’s in other words i’ve
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always looked at darwinism as
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cutting off christianity at the knees
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essentially and just
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that is the prevailing paradigm in both
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academia and the scientific community
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your thoughts
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on how darwin’s may or may not play into
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this
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what i would like to call an end time
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scenario of
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of deception i think it’s a double-edged
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sword i think for the people that
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that subscribe to darwinism this this
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is like the top of the ladder for them
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hey these were the beings that initially
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seated us
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and created us and then we evolved from
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there and then you have the other camp
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which i think is the vast majority now
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people who reject darwinism but they
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don’t want to take everything that goes
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along with christianity the
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accountability
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you know the savior jesus christ so they
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see this this
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explanation for all these things they
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see this almost spiritualism involved in
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these beings and they
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they see this alternate to the to the
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the rigidness of darwinism
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and the the what they see as
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oppressiveness of christianity
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so they still get to answer these
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questions feel that if they even get to
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feed this this conspiratorial desire in
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them
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because of all the hidden agendas and
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stuff like that involving
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these documents relating to them but
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it’s kind of like
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it it takes away from both camps and
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creates this new kind of religion
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in a way i think a lot of people are
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flocking to that
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i think people i know of a neo-darwinist
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are definitely
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looking out to the stars for
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our progenitors our creators um you know
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watch it and correct
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the discoverers of dna
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i know that that they were both vexed
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men
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because they realized that this
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complexity of the dna molecular
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structure just didn’t
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you know happen by chance over billions
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of years something’s good there has to
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be some sort of a creator with this
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and now we have movies and like
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prometheus and all this other stuff
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um promulgating this idea that we
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receded
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from another planet well let me ask you
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this i’ve often believed
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or i hold a belief now that we are
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living in some sort of a holographic
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digital simulation uh that when we read
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in scripture that
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you know god’s gonna roll up this thing
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like a scroll what are your thoughts on
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that i think that’s very well possible i
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remember chuck missler talking about
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this
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exactly and it shows you it
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when you hear verses talking about how
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this is a shadow of a greater reality
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basically
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it makes complete sense you know the
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spiritual world is the real world
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the realm that that god is in is the
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real realm
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this is almost a byproduct so it would
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make complete sense for this to be some
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sort of holographic simulation
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organized by the living god let me let
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me ask you this
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that we are on in my opinion on the
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sixth rung
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of the disclosure ladder what i mean by
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that is 2017 commander david fravor f-18
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pilot
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comes on tucker carlson and said
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whatever this tic-tac-shaped object was
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was not from this world that’s the first
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rung second room
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luis elizondo back on tucker carlson the
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united states government has mentalist
28:39
possession
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basically gary stearman talking she
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calls them hubcaps from ufos but
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they’ve got metal uh that they’re
28:47
testing third
28:48
wrong on on the latter is chris mellon
28:51
saying hey we’ve tested the metal
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it’s got isotopes in it not found on
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this planet fourth
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rung on the ladder the pentagon admits
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that uap’s unidentified aerial
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phenomenon
29:01
notice how they just change the verbiage
29:03
a little bit instead of ufo which has
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the tinfoil hat
29:06
designation they call them uaps but they
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say that
29:10
that the phenomenon is real the fifth
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round on the ladder is
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uh our government admitting that we have
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off-road vehicles not made on this earth
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and our possession
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and and still the church is asleep not
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nobody does anything
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the sixth rung is commanded david favor
29:24
back on tucker carlson stating that
29:27
when he flew at the tic tac tic tac
29:29
shape object it jammed his radar
29:31
that’s an act of war so let me ask you
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this
29:34
all that to get up to what do you think
29:37
the seventh
29:38
rung on the disclosure ladder might be i
29:41
feel like the seventh rung
29:42
would be an acknowledgement of these
29:45
beings
29:45
without yet seeing them i think there’s
29:49
still groundwork to be laid before we
29:50
get to actually see
29:51
these things but i think the longer they
29:54
they say hey these
29:55
there’s actual beings we’ve spoken with
29:57
them and then they just don’t show them
29:59
then that becomes the norm that becomes
30:02
something that people are used to
30:03
and then maybe the next step is hey
30:05
they’ve worked with us on this and
30:06
here’s here’s what we’ve been working
30:08
on this new legislature this new
30:09
something that they say will help us
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and i don’t think they even need to show
30:12
us anything because if they keep doing
30:15
this then it’s in the back of somebody’s
30:16
mind
30:17
that it doesn’t spook them enough it
30:19
doesn’t wake them up that’s the thing
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you don’t want to wake the church up
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okay so if you keep this kind of
30:24
separated and piecemeal it in
30:26
then you’re going to get this thing
30:27
where aliens are just another thing it’s
30:29
just okay yeah
30:30
they were discovered you know we don’t
30:31
really see them but you know
30:33
whatever it’s another thing in the in
30:35
the list of a ton of things we have to
30:37
worry about in the day
30:38
but eventually i think there will be a
30:41
revealing because these
30:42
if these beings are either the the
30:45
fallen angels
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or demonic kind of race like like the
30:49
nephilim maybe not even like national
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just another race
30:52
they they want to rule that’s the thing
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they want to subjugate humanity so there
30:56
will be a time where they step forward
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let me ask you this if you have a a
31:01
a projection here when do you think
31:04
we’ll see full disclosure
31:06
and might it be and this is really the
31:08
question what are your thoughts on
31:09
roswell do you think maybe they’ll
31:11
they’ll roll out because you know they
31:13
have footage of roswell
31:14
they have to i mean when they went in
31:16
and took the wreckage and cleaned it up
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uh you know they they the cameras were
31:20
rolling and that’s
31:22
in 47 they had color photography it’d be
31:24
very interesting to see what happened so
31:26
i guess the question is is the two part
31:29
do you think when they roll out
31:31
disclosure do you think they’ll use
31:33
roswell as sort of ground zero and sort
31:36
of they’re kind of backpedaling it’s
31:38
like wow
31:38
we know for the last 70 years we told
31:40
you that it was a weather balloon but
31:42
you know we were lying
31:44
and uh this is what really happened what
31:46
are your thoughts
31:47
well you all that reminds me you also
31:48
have the um the interview
31:50
i think it was the 50th anniversary i
31:52
forget which one where they said
31:54
you know you they you said you used
31:55
these these test dummies but they
31:57
weren’t invented until after
31:58
after yeah that’s great and then the
32:00
answer was just
32:01
like basically yeah that that that was
32:04
said
32:05
and it wasn’t a dismissal it wasn’t a
32:08
cover it up it was just
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yep we and then the other the other
32:12
excuse was
32:12
that they were experiencing time
32:14
dissonance they were thinking that this
32:16
was a different time period when they
32:17
when they thought that
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it was basically this it was weird it
32:20
was like this
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like yeah so what kind of thing so
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i think yeah i i could see them using
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the roswell footage and
32:28
and showing us new footage they just
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found you know there you go
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this is this is a huge plot this isn’t
32:36
something that’s being figured out as
32:37
they go
32:38
this is a i believe this is a huge plot
32:40
that that’s going to unfold as they
32:42
decide
32:43
it’s a managed agenda as the late chuck
32:45
messler would say
32:46
drew thanks so much for coming on the
32:47
record really appreciate all your
32:49
insight and wisdom
32:50
um what are your final thoughts my final
32:53
thoughts are
32:54
people need to be in their words more
32:56
than ever in the word of god more than
32:58
ever
32:59
because when these things start to roll
33:01
out if you aren’t grounded in what the
33:03
bible says
33:03
you’re not going to know that this has
33:05
happened before you’re not going to know
33:06
what to do
33:07
and the other thing you’re going to be
33:08
taken by the fear of these things of
33:11
your worldview being shaken people were
33:12
terrified of just a virus happening
33:14
in it changing their lives imagine when
33:16
you realize there is a
33:18
another sentient race that is
33:21
interacting that that’s going to blow
33:22
people’s minds so they need to be
33:23
grounded in the word
33:25
and just being ready because these these
33:27
i believe these are the days of noah and
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that means we need to be prepared like
33:30
noah was prepared
33:31
thanks so much drew how can people find
33:32
you and get a hold of you people can
33:34
find me on facebook
33:35
you know at drewgrafia and then i have
33:37
my youtube channel the radical christian
33:38
which i will be taking up
33:40
after i finish the book i’m working on
33:42
very cool
33:43
and we’ll definitely have you back when
33:45
the book comes out thanks so much for
33:46
coming on the record folks remember
33:48
uh check out his website check out
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facebook
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drew graffia thanks so much for coming
33:53
on drew really appreciate it my pleasure
33:56
thanks for having me you got it folks we
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