Emma Hale Smith would rather her blood would run pure than be polluted in this manner — Prophet Joseph Smith and Plural Marriage

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Emma Hale Smith — The Right Stuff

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_life_of_Joseph_Smith,_Jr.

Later, Smith reportedly determined by looking into his seer stone that the “right person” was Emma Hale Smith, his future wife.[78] There is no specific record of Smith seeing the angel in 1826, however, after Joseph and Emma were married on January 18, 1827, Smith returned to Manchester, and as he passed by Cumorah, he said he was chastised by the angel for not being “engaged enough in the work of the Lord”.[89] He was reportedly told that the next annual meeting was his last chance to get the plates and the Urim and Thummim.[90]

Just days prior to the day Smith said he was to meet with the angel on September 22, 1827, Smith’s treasure-seeking associate, Josiah Stowell, and Joseph Knight, Sr. arranged to be in Palmyra for the attempt to retrieve the plates.[91] Because Smith was concerned that Samuel Lawrence, his earlier confidant, might interfere, Smith sent his father to spy on Lawrence’s house the night of September 21 until dark.[90] Late that night, Smith took the horse and carriage of Joseph Knight, Sr. to Cumorah with his wife Emma.[92] Leaving Emma in the wagon, where she knelt in prayer,[93] he reportedly walked to the site of the golden plates, retrieved them, and hid them in a fallen tree-top on or near the hill.[94] He also reportedly retrieved the Urim and Thummim, which he showed to his mother the next morning.[95] According to Knight, Smith was more fascinated by this artifact than he was the plates.[90]

What follows is excerpted from:

Joseph Smith: Rough Stone Rolling

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Richard Lyman Bushman, Jed Woodworth – 2007 – Biography & Autobiography – 784 pages

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p. 494 Year 1843

church secured scores of affidavits from people who knew of the practice in

Nauvoo. 35 Besides proving the existence of plural marriage, the affidavits

attempted to refute the hypothesis that Joseph’s relations with his plural

wives were purely spiritual. Some members of the Reorganized Church

accepted ceremonial marriages but thought Joseph never slept with his

wives. 36 To rebut that view, the affidavits noted the occasions when Joseph

occupied the same room with a wife, facts that might have been omitted had

not the Utah Mormons been determined to prove that Joseph and his plural

wives were married as completely as the later polygamists under Brigham

Young.

While Joseph was alive, there were times when Emma countenanced

plural marriage. In May 1843 she approved two wives, Eliza and Emily Par-

tridge, daughters of Edward Partridge and helpers in the Smith household.

The sisters were an awkward selection because Joseph had already married

them two months earlier in March without Emma’s knowledge. When

Joseph proposed, Emily and Eliza, nineteen and twenty-three, went through

the usual turmoil. At first they turned Joseph down, but by the time he told

Emily that “the Lord had commanded him to enter into plural marriage

and had given me to him,” she was prepared. They married on March 4,

1843. “Well I was married there and then,” she wrote many years later.

“Joseph went home his way and I going my way alone. A strange way of get-

ting married wasent it?” Eliza Partridge married him four days later. In

May, they both went through the ceremony again with Emma present. 37

About the same time, Emma agreed to accept Maria and Sarah Lawrence,

two other young women living in the Smiths’ house. 38

Emma’s concurrence brought about a reconciliation, which led in turn to

her and Joseph’s priesthood marriage. Joseph probably would not have had

the sealing performed while Emma opposed the plural-marriage revelation.

But on a cold Sunday evening, May 28, 1843, in the upper room of Joseph’s

redbrick store, Joseph and Emma were “sealed” for eternity by the power of

the priesthood.

Unfortunately, the reconciliation did not last. Emma had agreed to the

plural marriages, but she immediately regretted it. “Before the day was over

she turned around or repented of what she had done and kept Joseph up till

very late in the night talking to him,” Emily Partridge wrote in the 1880s,

when revealing Emma’s faults was thought to aid the Utah church. “She

kept close watch of us. If we were missing for a few minutes, and Joseph was

not at home, the house was searched from top to bottom and from one end

to the other, and if we were not found, the neighborhood was searched until

we were found.” One day Emma heard Joseph talking to Eliza Partridge in

an upstairs room. Joseph closed the door and held it shut, while Emma

called Eliza’s name and tried to open the door. “She seemed much irri-

tated,” he reported to William Clayton. 39

[At this point in the narrative, it still seems Emma was in a state of denial as to the “spiritual” nature of her husband’s plural marriages. Joseph had made a shrew of his wife. Emma had been the “right person” at the beginning of the revelation. She is not blameless here, but bears the scars of her husband’s human fallibilities.]

The situation deteriorated. In her 1884 reminiscence, Emily wrote of

Emma:

She sent for us one day to come to her room. Joseph was present, looking like

a martyr. Emma said some very hard things – Joseph should give us up or

blood should flow. She would rather her blood would run pure than be

poluted in this manner. Such interviews were quite common, but the last time

she called us to her room, I felt quite indignant, and was determined it should

be the last, for it was becoming monotonous, and I am ashamed to say, I felt

indignant towards Joseph for submitting to Emma.

Emma wanted the marriages to the Partridge girls ended. Emily said,

“Joseph asked her [Emma] if we made her the promises she required, if she

would cease to trouble us, and not persist in our marrying some one else.

She made the promise. Joseph came to us and shook hands with us, and the

understanding was that all was ended between us.” Later he said to Emily

privately, “You know my hands are tied. And he looked as if he would sink

into the earth.” Emma wanted the girls out of the house and the city. Emily

said later that “my sister and I were cast off. 40

Joseph was unsure how far the usually composed Emma would go in her

anger. Near the end of June, he warned William Clayton that Emma

“wanted to lay a snare for me.” Joseph said that “he knew she was disposed

to be revenged on him for some things she thought that if he would indulge

himself she would too.” 41 Clayton, trying to patch up relations with one

of his own wives, was dumbfounded. Joseph warned him against getting

involved. The staid and upright Emma, determined to regain her dignity,

was looking for a way to punish her husband. Joseph was anxious and under

pressure.

Emma had always performed her duties as wife of the Church president.

She entertained housefuls of guests, appeared at reviews of the Nauvoo

Legion, and took on multiple business duties, traveling to St. Louis in late

April, for example, when Joseph dared not stir for fear of arrest. Emma

believed in her husband’s inspiration. She had been convinced ever since

watching the Book of Mormon translation going on in her house in 1829.

Late in life, she told a Momon elder that the gold plates “lay in a box under

our bed for months.”

Knowing her basic faith, Hyrum thought Joseph should show Emma a

written revelation on plural marriage. Hyrum had been reluctant to accept

the principle himself until Brigham Young explained that it allowed him to

be married to both Jerusha Barden, his deceased first wife, and to Mary

Fielding, his current spouse. At the same time, he had the spiritual confir-

mation so many others reported. 42 On May 29, the day after Joseph was

sealed to Emma, Hyrum was sealed to his two wives. In July, Hyrum argued

[Page 496 missing]

Page 497

By “anointed” Joseph meant Emma had received an “endowment,” the

first woman to take part in the ceremony offered to nine men a year and a

half before. The endowment was the heart of the temple rituals that had

grown considerably since the Kirtland temple dedication. For a year after

the bestowal of the expanded endowment in May 1842, no one else was

endowed. During that year, the central importance of marriage, and of

women, had emerged. When he renewed the ceremony on May 26, 1843,

Joseph taught the participants about the “new and everlasting covenant,”

referring to marriage. By then he knew that men and women must marry by

the power of the priesthood to reach the highest degree of celestial glory. 48

The increased importance of marriage meant including women in the

temple ceremonies. Emma was the natural choice to be endowed first. On

or before September 28, she passed through the endowment ceremony. 49

From then on, she initiated other women into washings, anointings, and

sealings. Heber Kimball noted in his journal that “January 1844 my wife

Vilate and menny feemales was received in to the Holy Order, and was

washed and inointed by Emma.” By the time of Joseph’s death in June 1844,

sixty-five persons had been endowed. 50

Those who had been endowed met almost weekly to induct others, hear

instruction, and offer prayers. Called the “Quorum,” the “Anointed Quo-

rum,” or the “Holy Order,” this small group of endowed members held

prayer circles, probably dressed in special temple clothing and partially

reenacting the ceremonies. 51 A typical entry in Richards’s record reads:

“Prayer Meeting at Joseph’s. Quorum present … Hiram and his wife were

blessed, ord[ained] and anointed. Prayer and singing.” Sometimes the notes

on the anointings themselves were coded. “Prayer Meeting in the evening

at S E Room Jos[eph’s] old house,” one entry began. “R Cahoon and”

[sequence in code] “wife anointed and Mother Smith.” Although used

intermittently, the coded words showed Richards’s sense that the occasions

were too sacred to be written for any eye to see. 52

Joseph introduced a more advanced ordinance called the “second anoint-

ing,” between September 28 and February 26. The ceremony, given to

eighteen men and their wives, was Joseph’s attempt to deal with the theo-

logical problem of assurance. How did a Christian, in the words of the first

chapter of 2 Peter, “give diligence to make your calling and election sure”? 53

Calvinist theologians had argued over the question of certain knowledge

for centuries. Was it possible to end doubt about one’s standing with the

Lord? 54 Preaching from 2 Peter 1 in May 1843, at the time he was reviving

the endowment, Joseph had taught that the “more sure word of prophecy”

meant “a mans knowing that he was sealed up unto eternal life by revelation

and the spirit of prophecy through the power of the Holy priesthood.” A

few months later, the revelation on priesthood marriage had promised those

[Page 498 missing]

Fanny Murray was Joseph Smith’s last plural wife. His marriages had

dropped off sharply after July 1843. During his confrontation with Emma

between July 12 and 16, Joseph may have agreed to add no more. He told

Page 499

Clayton she would divorce him if he did. Whatever the arrangement,

Joseph wed Melissa Lott on September 20, perhaps because he had pro-

posed earlier in the summer. 60 Fanny Murray may have seemed like an

innocent exception to him, but not to Emma.

In the winter, Emma fulfilled her role as president’s wife to the utmost.

On Christmas Day 1843, the Smiths entertained a large party at their

house, spending the evening “in a most cheerful and friendly manner in

Music, Dancing, &c.” In the middle of the festivities a disheveled figure

with long hair stumbled in, pretending to be a Missourian. Joseph scuffled

with the man until he saw it was Orrin Porter Rockwell, now released from

a Missouri prison where he had been held on suspicion of shooting Lilburn

Boggs. Rockwell had been moved from jail to jail and was held for weeks

before he was finally acquitted. After his release, he walked for twelve days

to arrive in Nauvoo, as it happened, just in time for the party. 61

The parties continued nonstop that winter. On New Year’s Eve, a com-

pany of fifty musicians and singers serenaded the Smiths under their win-

dow with William Phelps’s New Year hymn. On New Year’s Day, another

large party had supper at the Smiths’ and “continued music and dancing till

morning.” On January 18, 1844, a “Cotillion Party” at the Nauvoo Man-

sion marked Joseph and Emma’s wedding anniversary. 62

Two weeks earlier, Joseph told Richards about Emma: “I was remarking

to Bro[ther] Phelps what a kind, provident wife I had. That when I wanted

a little bread and milk she would load the table with so many good things it

would destroy my appetite.” Emma entered the room at that moment, and

Phelps said to her, “You must do as Bonaparte did have a little table, just

large enough for yourself and your order thereon.” Phelps pictured the two

of them, Joseph and Emma, dining quietly together. Emma knew better.

“Mr. Smith is a bigger man than Bonaparte,” came her retort, perhaps wist-

fully. “He can never eat without his friends.” 63

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Joseph III’s Account

In February, 1879, only two months before Emma’s death, Joseph III, who had heard her testimonies to others many times on the subject of polygamy, put some of the questions directly to her himself:

Q. (Question)—What about the revelation on polygamy? Did Joseph Smith have anything like it? What of spiritual wifery?
A.—There was no revelation on either polygamy, or spiritual wives. There were some rumors of something of the sort, of which I asked my husband. He assured me that all there was of it was, that in a chat about plural wives, he had said, “Well, such a system might possibly be, if everybody was agreed to it, and would behave as they should; but they would not; and, besides, it was contrary to the will of heaven.” No such thing as polygamy, or spiritual wifery, was taught, publicly or privately [by him], before my husband’s death, that I have now, or ever had any knowledge of.

Q.—Did he not have other wives than yourself?
A.—He had no other wife but me; nor did he to my knowledge ever have.

Q.—Did he not hold marital relation with women other than yourself?
A.—He did not have improper relations with any woman that ever came to my knowledge.

Q.—Was there nothing about spiritual wives that you recollect?
A.—At one time my husband came to me and asked me if I had heard certain rumors about spiritual marriages, or anything of the kind; and assured me that if I had, that they were without foundation; that there was no such doctrine, and never should be with his knowledge, or consent. I know that he had no other wife or wives than myself, in any sense, either spiritual or otherwise (Saints’ Herald 26:289–290).

http://www.cofchrist.org/ourfaith/faq.asp

What position does Community of Christ take on Joseph Smith Jr.’s alleged involvement in polygamy?

Our faith is grounded in the gospel of Jesus Christ and not in the actions of any particular person. Community of Christ affirms its long history of vigorous opposition to polygamy as a doctrine or practice, regardless of what historical research concludes about its origins in the early Latter Day Saint movement.

The church has consistently taught monogamy as the basic principle of Christian marriage (Doctrine and Covenants, Sections 111 and 150).

As a policy, Community of Christ does not legislate or mandate positions on issues of history. The church encourages honest, responsible historical scholarship.

Historians use academic research to get as many facts as they can; then, they interpret those facts to construct as clear a picture as possible of what was going on in the past.

The issues of polygamy and whether Joseph Smith Jr. was connected with its inception at Nauvoo, Illinois, in the 1840s have been of considerable interest to Community of Christ members and others through the years.

The early RLDS Church (1860–1960) consistently opposed the doctrine and fought against the assertion by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints [Mormon] that Joseph Smith Jr. advocated this practice as part of a divine plan.

Joseph Smith III, son of the founding prophet and first prophet-president of the RLDS Church (1860–1914), spent much of his life trying to clear his father’s name from the stigma of polygamy and polygamous doctrine, even though there were leaders in the early RLDS Church who believed otherwise.

While it is clear Joseph Smith III sincerely believed his father was innocent, he affirmed on more than one occasion that even if his father was guilty, he was wrong.

Community of Christ takes into account the growing body of scholarly research and publications depicting the polygamous teachings and practices of the Nauvoo period of church history (1840–1846).

The context of these developments included a time of religious and cultural experimentation in the United States and the emergence of a system of secret temple ordinances in Nauvoo that accented the primacy of family connections, in this life and the next.

The practice of plural marriage emerged from that context and involved a small group of key leaders entering into polygamous marriage rituals and covenants.

Research findings point to Joseph Smith Jr. as a significant source for plural marriage teaching and practice at Nauvoo. However, several of his associates later wrote that he repudiated the plural marriage system and began to try to stop its practice shortly before his death in June 1844.

Good historical inquiry understands that conclusions are open to correction as new understanding and information comes from ongoing study. Community of Christ, in its ongoing quest for truth, remains open to a more complete understanding of its history.

Through careful study and guidance of the Holy Spirit, the church is learning how to own and responsibly interpret all of its history.

This process includes putting new information and changing understandings into proper perspective while emphasizing those parts that continue to play a vital role in guiding and shaping the church’s identity and mission today.

In this way, we can genuinely affirm the prophetic vision of Joseph Smith Jr., while acknowledging how God’s Spirit works in the lives of imperfect, but highly dedicated people to shape a faith movement that continues to play a vital role in God’s unfolding purposes today.

Over time Community of Christ has moved away from an identity rooted in battling polygamy and charges that Joseph Smith Jr. was somehow involved to focus on pursuing our mission to proclaim Jesus Christ and promote communities of joy, hope, love, and peace.

Today, members and friends around the world live out the call to create communities of Christ’s peace in our families and congregations and across villages, tribes, nations, and throughout creation.

Community of Christ encourages its members and others to explore all issues pertaining to its history in an open atmosphere. We must keep our hearts and minds centered on God’s revelation in Jesus Christ.

As God’s Word alive in human history, Jesus Christ was and is the foundation of our faith and the focus of the church’s mission and message.

For more about Community of Christ perspectives on church history, see the Church History Principles.
 

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It would appear that Prophet Joseph Smith did institute the practice of polygamy. It is less apparent how much his wife, Emma, knew. Perhaps she could have fought harder.

Then Prophet Smith is responsible for LDS not being held in a favorable light by many.

And for the countless numbers of women and girls abused by Mormon polygamists over the many years.

There are so many descendants of these plural “marriages.” They are innocent.

So Prophet Smith’s imperfections were very costly.

And cost Emma dearly.

I want to believe that Joseph and Emma are together again. And experiencing a lifetime of devotion.

Devoted to their Creator and to their Savior. And to each other.

Rose

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The Nauvoo Willow TreeReflections of Emma Smith

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39 Responses to “Emma Hale Smith would rather her blood would run pure than be polluted in this manner — Prophet Joseph Smith and Plural Marriage”

  1. rosettasister Says:

  2. rosettasister Says:

    Cuddly Kudlow — he’s about the only one I tune in to now.

    The Budgetary Game Is a Taxpayer Scam

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  3. rosettasister Says:

    Mr. Dayen is hopelessly leftist, but usually pretty good at predicting outcomes.

    Republicans Haven’t Moved on Revenue – No Matter What the Media Says

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  4. rosettasister Says:

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  5. rosettasister Says:

    This looks good, too.

  6. rosettasister Says:

    Also, I am reading:

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  7. rosettasister Says:

    I like this priest!

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  9. rosettasister Says:

    For Later

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    Question:

    I have a question regarding subliminals and compact discs, and I am not referring to rock music. I have a large collection of mostly classical and new age music, and I used to love to listen to them. But during the past couple of years, I find increasingly that music aggravates me, not all of the classical and new age music, but certain ones. Are they putting programming in…?

    Answer:

    There is sometimes stuff that is being layered in, unfortunately. Our vehicle (Barbara Marciniak) has gotten herself into the situation where she can listen to very few things.

    Back to the television idea, we will say that even when the television is not on, in many instances it is set up to create a distracting frequency, to broadcast something.

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    If you do not feel good about something, if it creates a static and nervousness within you, stop it. Remove yourself from it.

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    That is very common, that is part of the process.

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    That is one of the largest ways of affecting the human population. It is diabolical.

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    My Irish Catholic mother told me about this years ago.

    See:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashrut#Kosher_slaughter

    And my brother, Raymond, had something to do with this story being told:

    http://www.grandin.com/references/humane.slaughter.html

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    There is nothing wrong with eating animal flesh. The animals were designed here to be companions for you, and if necessary, part of your nurturing and your survival.

    To work with the animal, to ingest the animal, was actually an honor, to become one with it.

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  10. rosettasister Says:

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  11. rosettasister Says:

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  12. rosettasister Says:

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  13. rosettasister Says:

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    More wishes than a thousand hearts can count for you
    More smiles than a merry-go-round
    The sweetest ending to a bed-time story told
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    More laughter than a kindergarten out to play
    One Sunday morning song that says it all
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    I won’t pretend that it’s not killing me
    Watching you walk away slow

    More freedom than a field of flowers in the wind
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  14. rosettasister Says:

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  15. rosettasister Says:

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  18. rosettasister Says:

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  20. rosettasister Says:

    Evidence of aggregation [5] Colonel Brigadier General Constant De Simone refuted

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    So that, in fact, one can determine the phenomenon of condensation, it is necessary that the temperatures are close to 40 degrees Celsius below zero, along with high humidity.

    In this movie, we can distinguish very well heaps of decaying (because of the hygroscopic components of chemtrails) and well known as the aircraft releasing a trail of such persistent overflights below the clouds.

    This shows, conclusively, that the plane through the space of the sky at an altitude not suitable for any type of contrail formation, persistent or less.

    In fact, all the aircraft that we can identify in detail even at night and spotting planes are military items that disperse chemical and biological at the lowest altitudes.

    Those who blather condensation are evident bad faith and, as such, must be condemned.

  21. rosettasister Says:

    http://www.enouranois.gr/ekdilosis/indexcyprus1.htm

    Campaign against chemical spraying in Cyprus

    Το Κίνημα Οικολόγων Περιβαλλοντιστών και η Επιτροπή Αγώνα κατά των Xημικών Aεροψεκασμών διοργάνωσαν με επιτυχία δύο διαλέξεις, μία στη Λεμεσό και μία στην Πάφο, με ομιλητή τον Δρ.

    The Cyprus Green Party and the Struggle Committee Against Chemical Aeropsekasmon successfully organized two conferences, one in Limassol and one in Paphos, with speaker Dr..

    Νικόλαος Κατσαρός – Χημικό – Επιστημονικό Συνεργάτη του Εθνικού Κέντρου Έρευνας Φυσικών Επιστημών «Δημόκριτος».

    Nikos Katsaros – Chemistry – Scientific Collaborator of the National Center for Scientific Research “Demokritos”.

    Οργάνωσαν επίσης παγκύπρια εκστρατεία ενημέρωσης του κοινού για το μεγάλο θέμα των ύποπτων χημικών νεφών και των υπερπτήσεων αεροσκαφών που αφήνουν στο περιβάλλον επικίνδυνες για τη δημόσια υγεία χημικές ουρές (chemtrails).

    Also organized a nationwide public information campaign on the big issue of suspected chemical cloud and the aircraft overflights that leave the environment hazardous to public health chemtrails (chemtrails).

    Στα πλαίσια της εκστρατείας ενημέρωσης έχει δημιουργηθεί μια ηλεκτρονική εκστρατεία συλλογής υπογραφών όπου οι πολίτες μπορούν να καταθέτουν τη δική τους μαρτυρία και να συμβάλλουν στη δημιουργία ενός κινήματος διαμαρτυρίας κατά των ύποπτων αεροψεκασμών και να ζητήσουν την άμεση διερεύνηση των διαμαρτυριών από την κυβέρνηση.

    Within the campaign has created an online campaign to collect signatures where citizens can deposit their testimony and help create a movement of protest against aerial spraying suspicious and ask for prompt investigation of complaints by the government.

    Ζητούμε όπως η Κυβέρνηση τηρήσει τη δέσμευση της απέναντι στους πολίτες και εξετάσει τις πιθανές επιπτώσεις στην υγεία των κατοίκων της Κύπρου και στο περιβάλλον από τους ψεκασμούς αεροσκαφών των αγγλικών βάσεων σε συνδυασμό με το θέμα που αφορά τις πληροφορίες για την πειραματική λειτουργία του Ερευνητικού Προγράμματος Υψηλής Συχνότητας Δραστικής Ακτινοβολίας (HAARP) στις βρετανικές βάσεις Ακρωτηρίου και γενικότερα στον εναέριο χώρο της Κύπρου.

    We observe that the Government’s commitment towards its citizens and examine the possible effects on health of residents of Cyprus and the environment from spraying aircraft of the English bases in conjunction with the issue concerning the information on the experimental operation of the Research Program High-Frequency Active Radiation (HAARP) in the British bases of Akrotiri and generally the airspace of Cyprus.

    Κύριο αίτημα μας η χρηματοδότηση ανεξάρτητης δειγματοληψίας και χημικής ανάλυσης δείγματος των ουσιών που περιλαμβάνουν τα χημικά νέφη.

    Our main request funding independent sampling and chemical analysis of sample substances containing the chemical cloud.

  22. rosettasister Says:

    αεροψεκασμοι chemtrails athens

  23. rosettasister Says:

    Uploaded by SAKIS2901 on Jun 11, 2011

    ΤΙ ΠΡΟΚΑΛΟΥΝ ΟΙ ΑΕΡΟΨΕΚΑΣΜΟΙ ΣΤΟΝ ΑΝΘΡΩΠΙΝΟ ΟΡΓΑΝΙΣΜΟ;
    ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ TV/”ΑΠΟΡΡΗΤΑ ΣΕΝΑΡΙΑ”
    http://sakis24.blogspot.com/

    ΣΟΚ ΑΠΟ ΤΟΝ ΠΡΩΗΝ ΕΦΕΤ ΓΙΑ ΤΟΥΣ ΑΕΡΟΨΕΚΑΣΜΟΥΣ

  24. rosettasister Says:

    Friday

    BTW if you click on green arrow, will link to page for that song.

    http://www.4shared.com/playlist/JInndrRp/_online.html

  25. rosettasister Says:

    Uploaded by mundodesconocido on Feb 24, 2011

    http://www.mundodesconocido.com expone en el siguiente video, algunas de las tenebrosas patentes destinadas al control de la mente humana y al control de sus actos.

    tambien, hablamos de las misteriosas palabras reveladas a Barbara Marciniak en las que unos seres la cuentan como las entidades que tienen secuestrada a la raza humana consiguen modificar nuestra percepción de la realidad.

    Pensamos que somos libres y que nuestros actos y deseos obedecen a nuestros propios sentimientos pero quizás estamos sometidos a un control que nubla nuestra percepción de la realidad y nos incóa a cometer acciones contra nuestra propia voluntad.

  26. rosettasister Says:

    Uploaded by BibianaClaudiaBryson on Apr 26, 2011

    UFOs, Aliens, and the Question of Contact
    By Bernhard Guenther

    ÉSTE VIDEO DESTROZA A MUCHOS POSTULADOS Y OPINIONES DE AGENTES DESINFORMADORES DE LAS DIFERENTES RAMAS UFOLÓGICAS…

    This video explores the secrecy surrounding the greatest cover-up of all time, presenting an overview of the UFO phenomenon, aliens, abductions, disclosure, and hyperdimensional realities.

    youtube.com/watch?v=VIB612CSohw

    OVNIS , ALIENS Y LA CUESTION DE CONTACTO- RED RADIO ARGENTINA – Bibiana Bryson

  27. rosettasister Says:

    Uploaded by BibianaClaudiaBryson on Apr 6, 2011

    UFOs, Aliens, and the Question of Contact
    By Bernhard Guenther

    This video explores the secrecy surrounding the greatest cover-up of all time, presenting an overview of the UFO phenomenon, aliens, abductions, disclosure, and hyperdimensional realities.

    UFOs, Aliens, and the Question of Contact ” RADIO NET ARGENTINA ”

    youtube.com/watch?v=RNOy97CfVlU

  28. rosettasister Says:

    Uploaded by eyes4ears on Feb 14, 2011

    UFO Hypotheses featuring Jim Nichols, Volume One

    In the eighth DVD of the “UFO Hypotheses” series, celebrated UFO essayist, talk show host, artist and author Jim Nichols shares his years of accumulated understanding and insight in a powerful, positive seventy-minute lecture on “The Message” given to Earth humanity through various contacts between human individuals on Earth and human being ET visitors from the Pleiades. Nichols begins his fascinating talk with his earliest exposure to purported Pleiadian information given to Eduard “Billy” Meier by Semjase of the Teygeta star systen in the Pleiades, and delves not into the external evidence but instead into Meier’s voluminous contact notes published by longtime UFO contact investigator Wendelle Stevens, in a series of four “Messages From The Pleiades” books. From there, Nichols takes you on a journey through the various influential UFO contact cases involving Pleiadian-shared insight into humanity, including material from Shirley MacLaine, Charles A. Silva, and Barbara Marciniak, from whose writing Nichols first learned of a reptilian ET species. Nichols shares his view on how each of us is connected to a creative source of unlimited potential, and offers insight into how humanity may deal with a very regressive ET presence. Also included is a compact thirty minute Q&A session, followed by a special bonus twenty-minute segment as Nichols and colleague Wendelle Stevens share their own perspectives on the reptilians, from a 2006 interview session.

    UFO Hypotheses
    http://www.ufohypotheses.com

    youtube.com/watch?v=L7m05hH6mHc

  29. rosettasister Says:

    Uploaded by paradigmshiftdocs4u on Jun 10, 2011

    WEBSITE: http://search.foraunitedhumanity.com

    youtube.com/watch?v=eZUvh5czCp0

  30. rosettasister Says:

    BTW the 5 Videos posted above I stumbled upon doing a search for “Barbara Marciniak.”

    Haven’t viewed, but perhaps one or two of them worthwhile.

  31. rosettasister Says:

    Great tools:

    http://www.geonames.org/

    http://toolserver.org/~geohack/

    Late on Thu I noticed what looked like a chem trail laid right on top of a real cloud bank.

    Yesterday, Fri, I took a few pics of beautiful clouds from my back yard near White Peak.

    Then late in the day, again, a fake trail laid right on top of real clouds.

    I took a pic from parking lot of Vistancia Safeway.

    Then I was outside of Starbucks near intersection of Happy Valley & Lake Pleasant (that’s funny!) and I spied what could be an enemy tanker heading N toward Lake Pleasant.

    So I jumped in my car and sped north. And lo and behold, there in the western sky, I saw a diagonal trail laid right in the middle of huge bank of clouds.

    Understand I watched as trail being formed. It appears out of nowhere.

    I pulled over near here:

    http://www.geonames.org/5309387/pleasant-valley-airport.html

    Let’s see, I had a helicopter, a glider, the moon, and a beautiful sunset made mostly from real clouds.

    Oh, and a few car fulls of peeps who’d just left the lake honking their horns and shouting. They seemed happy!

    The diagonal trail I refer to is to the left of the sun in these pics.

    I also saw two parallel trails laid way to the left of clouds, outlining the silhouette.

    From my vantage point, they looked like a painter’s strokes.

    Most of trail not visible because pilot flying right through the middle of clouds.

    Then way to the right parallel to power lines I saw what I thought was the same trail on the opposite side.

    Bear in mind that part of the time I actually saw trails being sprayed.

    When I got home much later just behind my house, another diagonal (same one?). It was dark so you’ll have to take my word for it.

    Rose

    +++

    Be sure to click “SlideShow”

    http://www.4shared.com/folder/GFaGVXvA/07_08_11_fri_carefree_hwy_look.html

  32. rosettasister Says:

    Hard to see, but for the record.

    At times, I see these chem trails when I’m with others.

    And I ask, “Do you see that?”

    And they do.

    Otherwise I’d think I was “seeing” things.

    But the physical evidence is overwhelming. I still don’t understand why our military would countenance this.

    Mostly I’m worried for our health and our planet’s health.

    Rose

  33. rosettasister Says:

    Uploaded by FreeTruthShow on Jul 8, 2011

    lets make this one count

    CHEMTRAIL RALLY VIDEO UPDATE 10. See you tomorrow

  34. rosettasister Says:

    ???

    This is show to which Patrick refers:

    [audio src="http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/CTTM2011/Alan_Watt_CTTM_LIVEonRBN_871_Science_Your_Master__Cradle_to_Grave__Creates_the_Worlds_Most_Perfect_Slave_July082011.mp3" /]

  35. rosettasister Says:

    Saturday

    BTW if you click on green arrow, will link to page for that song.

    http://www.4shared.com/playlist/NHWJHA4M/Roses_Hit_Parade_Part_Four.html

  36. rosettasister Says:

    Nice music!

    http://www.wingmakers.com/hakomi2.html

  37. cynkading Says:

    Happy Belated Birthday!!! So sorry I missed your day. Been pretty crazy on my end.

    Our church is having Vacation Bible School this week so I am off to church.

    Hope you are well Rosie!

    love ya
    cyn

  38. rosettasister Says:

    Happy Belated Birthday!!! So sorry I missed your day.

    +++

    I was just thinking of you, Cyn!

    Happy Birthday!

    Yours is one of the few birthdays I do remember, cynnakadink!

    Skinnamarink -a-dinky-dink. Skinnamarink-a-doo I love you!

  39. rosettasister Says:

    New Thread:

    It used to be that humans understood the role of keeper of frequency – or – How Don Deppeller and ComMaj17 led me to Barbara Marciniak

    http://blessedistruth.wordpress.com/2011/07/10/it-used-to-be-that-humans-understood-the-role-of-keeper-of-frequency-or-how-don-deppeller-and-commaj17-led-me-to-barbara-marciniak/

    +++

    Will put up new post at https://rosettasister.wordpress.com/

    Monday or Tuesday re:

    “neuro cutaneous syndrome toxin lesion parasite nervous system morgellons brain fog”

    Toxins in our bodies → Central nervous system disease → Skin lesions → Opportunistic parasites (eg., flies) → Morgellons (NCS) ?

    This explains a lot, so parasites NOT the delivery system?

    So the question remains, how are these toxins getting into our bodies in the first place? Our bodies, ALL LIFE, including ALL plants and animals, i.e., the FOOD CHAIN!!!

    + chem trail genetically modified foods (GMO) = THE PERFECT STORM

    Will go into much detail and, hopefully, where to find help.

    This does explain a lot, but not everything.

    Many, including myself, suffer from what feels like “grains of sand” or “shards of glass” crystals under the skin, especially in the forehead, eyebrow eye socket area.

    When they finally start to protrude, it hurts like hell removing them!

    And, of course, this does NOT explain what “skizitgesture” research has uncovered. Is it possible he or she stumbled upon something extraordinary which is only indirectly related to chem trails and Morgellons?

    Rose

    +++

    New Thread:

    In later stages, itchy cutaneous lesions that may invite various opportunistic infections often confused as causative agents of the Morgellons syndrome

    https://rosettasister.wordpress.com/2011/07/19/in-later-stages-itchy-cutaneous-lesions-that-may-invite-various-opportunistic-infections-often-confused-as-causative-agents-of-the-morgellons-syndrome/

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