Would other intelligent beings have the possibility to enjoy God’s mercy?




LOR: Are we referring also to similar beings to us or more evolved ones?

FUNES: It is possible. Until now we have had no proof. But certainly in a universe so big this hypothesis cannot be excluded.

LOR: And this would not be a problem for our faith?

FUNES: I believe no. As a multiplicity of creatures exist on earth, so there could be other beings, also intelligent, created by God. This does not contrast with our faith because we cannot put limits on the creative freedom of God.

To say it with Saint Francis, if we consider earthly creatures as “brother” and “sister,” why cannot we also speak of an “extraterrestrial brother?” It would therefore be a part of creation.

LOR: And what about redemption?

FUNES: We borrow the gospel image of the lost sheep. The pastor leaves the 99 in the herd for go look for the one that is lost. We think that in this universe there can be 100 sheep, corresponding to diverse forms of creatures.

We that belong to the human race could be precisely the lost sheep, sinners who have need of a pastor. God was made man in Jesus to save us. In this way, if other intelligent beings existed, it is not said that they would have need of redemption. They could remain in full friendship with their Creator.

LOR: I insist: if they were sinners, would redemption also be possible for them?

FUNES: Jesus has been incarnated once, for everyone. The incarnation is an unique and unrepeatable event. I am therefore sure that they, in some way, would have the possibility to enjoy God’s mercy, as it has been for us men.

Funes cree que se puede admitir la existencia de otros mundos y otras vidas.

Believing in aliens not opposed to Christianity, Vatican’s top astronomer says.


The Director of the Vatican’s Observatory, Fr. José Gabriel Funes, said in an interview with the Vatican daily, L’Osservatore Romano, that believing in the possible existence of extraterrestrial  life is not opposed to Catholic doctrine.

The 45-year-old Argentinean priest heads the Vatican Observatory, founded by Pope Leo XIII with offices at Castelgandolfo, near the Apostolic summer palace, and another in Tucson, Arizona. Fr. Funes has been in charge of the Observatory since August 2006.

The astronomer began the interview titled, “The Alien is my Brother,” by saying that, “Astronomy has a profound human value. It is a science that opens the heart and the mind. It helps us to put our lives, our hopes, our problems in the right perspective.

In this regard, and here I speak as a priest and a Jesuit, it is an apostolic instrument that can bring us closer to God”, said Fr. Funes in the interview. 

Regarding the beginning of the universe, Fr. Funes says that he personally believes that the “big bang” theory seems to him the most plausible, and that it does not contradict the Bible.

“We cannot ask the Bible for a scientific answer here. At the same time, we don’t know if in a near future the ‘Big Bang’ theory will be superseded by a more complete and precise explanation of the origin of the universe.”

When he was asked about the possibility of extraterrestrial life, the Director of the Vatican Observatory responded that “it is possible, even if until now, we have no proof. But certainly in such a big universe this hypothesis cannot be excluded.”

Inside the walls of this Castle an unassuming Jesuit from Argentina leads the Vatican Astronomical research and has recently caused an uproar by opening a debate about aliens.

“In a universe so big, huge I would say, as the one where we live with 100 billion of galaxies, each galaxy with a hundred billion stars probably with many of these stars having planets, it could be possible that life could evolve as they way we know on earth.”

Father Funes says he is not sure if other forms of life would be more or less intelligent than humans, but he is convinced that the existence of Aliens is not a contradiction with the Catholic faith.

There has been no word from top vatican officials about Funes’ comments.

Author and theologian Ted Peters to speak at McAfee

‎Atlanta Journal Constitution – Shelia M. Poole

Thursday, September 16, 2010


Noted author and theologian Ted Peters will be the guest speaker during the annual D. Perry and Betty Ginn Lecture Series at Mercer University’s McAfee School of  Theology in Atlanta.

Peters  is an authority on science and religion and a professor of systematic theology at the Pacific Lutheran Theological Seminary and Graduate Theological Union and director of the Institute for Theology and Ethics. 

He will speak about   “Evolution, Atheism and Faith” at 10:45 a.m.  Tuesday in  Cecil B. Day Hall, and  on“Extraterrestrial Life and the Christian Earthview,” at 10:45 a.m. Thursday in the Academic and Conference Center Chapel.

At 10 a.m.  Wednesday,  Peters will speak in chapel on Mercer’s Macon campus.

That afternoon, at 4 p.m., he will lecture on “The Stem Cell Controversy: Who’s Fighting with Whom about What?” in the Medical School Auditorium.

Peters serves as editor-in-chief of Dialog, A Journal of Theology, and co-editor of Theology and Science journal.

Christian theology and alien life.


Since God created the universe, theologians say, he would have created aliens, too. And far from being weakened by contact, Christianity would adapt. Its doctrines would be interpreted anew, the aliens greeted with open — and not necessarily Bible-bearing — arms.

“The main question is, ‘Would religion survive this contact?'” said NASA chief historian Steven J. Dick, author of The Biological Universe. “Religion hasn’t gone away after Copernican theory, after Darwin. They’ve found ways to adapt, and they’ll find a way if this happens, too,” Dick says.

The central conundrum posed to Christianity by alien contact would involve the Incarnation — the arrival of Jesus Christ as God’s representative on Earth, his crucifixion and the absolution of humanity’s sins through his forgiveness.

“It would still be true — but if there are other races and intelligences, then what is the meaning of this visit to our race at that time?” asked Vatican astronomer Guy Consolmagno, who in 2005 penned the booklet Intelligent Life in the Universe?

Some propose that the Earthly incarnation of Jesus some 2,000 years ago redeemed all intelligent creatures, in all places and — since a space-faring race is likely older than us — in all times. Others have suggested that Jesus could take multiple forms.

“Just as Jesus is human like you and I, you would find an alien-specific Jesus,” said Pacific Lutheran Theological Seminary professor Ted Peters.

But Peters and others also say that aliens may not have fallen into sin, instead existing in a state of grace, neither having nor needing Jesus. In that case, missionaries would have no call to convert them.


26 Responses to “Would other intelligent beings have the possibility to enjoy God’s mercy?”

  1. rosettasister Says:

    “Battesimo di Cristo” 1710
    Aert De Gelder

  2. rosettasister Says:

    Project Aquarius: Exclusive interview and illustrations of Area 51’s S-4 facility

    Michael Schratt | Sep 14, 2010


    Open Minds recently documented, in great detail, “Project Aquarius” – the U.S. government’s alleged secret project to research extraterrestrial biological entities and their presence on the earth – as told by the highly controversial whistle-blower, Dr. Dan Burisch.


    Please note that Dr. Dan Burisch is also known as Dan Crain and both names are used in the document, but refer to the same individual.

  3. rosettasister Says:

    Well, this document went from 77 to 73 pages.

    I don’t know what, if anything, was deleted or added.


  4. rosettasister Says:

    Scroll down to bottom of page for “Affidavits”


    “Q-94 Document”


    Click Here to Go To The Transcripts


  5. rosettasister Says:

    “the highly controversial whistle-blower, Dr. Dan Burisch”

    Controversial, to be sure.

    Some believe him to be a con artist. Some don’t doubt his authenticity, but believe him to be a purveyor of disinformation.

    My Story

    After returning to AZ in 2007 my “experiences” suddenly took a sinister turn. And I needed help!

    I dreamt of Dan before I’d ever heard of him. I have a bench outside which was a gift from my daughter and her husband.

    In my dream, Dan was sitting on the bench and I kind of fell into his chest like a child would a parent.

    Because I was such a mess.

    So when I saw an image of Dan, I knew I had to find out more about him.

    And I met him through Marcia. And I am thankful.

    I have learned the hard way not to ignore my dreams.

    So unless I’m in the habit of dreaming of con men before I meet them, which I am not, for me Dan is the real deal.

    Besides, Dan’s testimony corresponds with others who have come forth and shared their experiences.

    For what it’s worth.

  6. rosettasister Says:

    I went through the document posted at Open Minds and picked out the passages which stood out for me, which I’ll post below.

  7. rosettasister Says:

    Page 36 of 73

    According to Dan, it was soon determined what events would be causation events for the ultimate splitting of
    humanity into what could become the J-Rod’s and the Orion beings.

    That information from the Looking Glass
    was supported by the direct testimony of both the J-Rods and Orion beings, according to their written and oral

    It was further supported by observation of data from the quantum cube gift (Orion Cube) given to
    President Eisenhower in 1954.

    According to Dan, the Looking Glass devices and Stargates were dismantled in
    an effort to protect humanity, based upon the totality of information collected.

    There were also several other
    efforts commissioned by Majestic to derail the potential sequence of events that would have led up to the

    Humanity has witnessed multiple prophesies about the times in which we live.

    Whether it be from Prophecy
    Rock, the Mayan prophesies concerning their calendar, or the prophesies of Fulcanelli.

    The take of some
    people on those prophesies is positive, while the take of others is negative.

    Both those groups are reacting
    within the probabilistics of the possible futures for humanity.

    The people who wrote the prophesies felt the
    same thing, and encoded them honestly so that we could experience them while making the right choices for our

    We have now arrived within that time, and the data provided to Dr. Dan from the J-Rod has indicated
    that the time of the catastrophe which resulted in the splitting of humanity has passed.

    This should mean to us
    that we have the opportunity to grasp the positive contained within these prophesies, as a means to direct our
    path to a positive future.

  8. rosettasister Says:

    Page 42 of 73

    Dan and I (Marcia) are only
    willing to say the following, and only that information may be represented as coming from us:

    “The former
    Leader of the Consistory of the Majestic was accurately identified by Dr. Dan in an affidavit sworn under
    penalty of perjury.

    That former leader was a high ranking official in:

    a) The United States Navy
    b) The National Security Agency (NSA)
    c) The director of National Intelligence’s Office

    That former leader is properly indentified by the name: “J. McConnell”.

  9. rosettasister Says:

    Page 46 of 73

    Members of the Majestic have always embraced September 24 as its birth date because that is the date a
    world shaking problem was first embraced by the world, through the Committee of the Majority.

    negotiations finalizing the structure and function of the Committee of the Majority were completed a few years
    later (in a process called chartering) during the finalization of the outer space treaty of 1967.

    From until 2002,
    the Committee of the Majority remained in control of the expanding E.T. issue.

    In 2002, the former head of the
    Majestic 12 opened a coalition to inform the world-wide of the totality of the extraterrestrial time-travel issue.

    He decided this as the compass for the Majestic because he believed that the people had a right to know of
    events that would soon come in their future, and because data from the Looking Glass units had revealed that

    wider public knowledge of the time-travel reality would in a partially nebulous way, somehow assist humanity
    in passing

    the time of the J-Rods and Orions historical catastrophe

    without such a catastrophe happening in our
    current time line.

    The resulting political ramifications rocked the Committee of the Majority, causing its near
    immediate collapse over the question of disclosure.

    Following its collapse, the former head of the Majestic 12
    under The Committee of the Majority took charge of the group in schism, and reformed an internationalized
    version of the group of 12.

    By the end of 2005, as part of its founding agreement for the Majestic 12 to be
    handed over from one Masonic Rite to another, a vote was taken

    to adjourn the previous Masonic Rite’s group, and

    to order selected operatives to provide a limited disclosure of the extraterrestrial phenomenon to the public.

    They followed their orders with the release of information which includes this document.

  10. rosettasister Says:

    Page 62 of 73

    Upon observing the J-Rod for the first time from the gallery, after he and others had worked on the J-Rod’s
    tissues and cells, for a few years without ever being directly told they were working on extraterrestrial material,
    he was shocked at the appearance of the J-Rod.

    While sitting within the clean sphere, the J-Rod reminded Dan of a small, darkened, hunched insect like

    Following being briefed on the J-Rod’s origins and other known aspects the team in which Dan served
    returned to their laboratory work on the extraterrestrial material.

    During this time Dan and his fellow team
    members internally wrestled with the fact that there existed an extraterrestrial intelligence (in fact a few of
    them) which were directly related to human kind.

    Their mere existence in our general time period as time
    travelers, constituted a paradox that they also learned had been codified as a doctrine.

    Amid fear, excitement,
    and complete astonishment, they realized and were shown the documentary and historic proof that

    the paradoxical aspect of time travel and the data from it which revealed past historical facts different from the
    accepted recorded history and many future probable events was

    the core, the one deep truth, as to why the
    governments of the world have kept the extraterrestrial presence a secret from the vast populations of humanity.

    (Neither Drs Dan nor Marci have ever said that non-human lineage extraterrestrials –true aliens- were not

    Page 63 of 73

    visiting members of humanity, and other life forms on planet Earth.

    They have said, however, that the
    governments of the world have restricted knowledge of their involvement with extraterrestrials due to the above
    stated facts involving time travel and paradoxes.

    Their relationship to the central players involving the cover-up
    dis-allows the attempts being made by certain

    disinformation specialists,

    experiencers, and

    belief advocates within UFOlogy

    in their attempts to hedge or add to the real nature of the governments’ involvement with the
    extraterrestrial cover-up.

    Disinformation specialists + experiencers + belief advocates DO NOT EQUAL the
    weight of the testimony of those coming from the center of the cover-up itself.)

  11. rosettasister Says:

    Page 66 of 73

    In a panic, no matter how close he felt to the J-ROD at that moment, and as the J-Rod then began to entrain
    Dan with telepathic activity, Dan began to stagger forward for a moment.

    This increased his panic due to the JRod’s
    unusual behavior.

    Dan then lunged backward catching the heel of one of his boots on the grating of the
    clean sphere floor, and fell backward onto his back.

    Due to the nature of the environmental suit Dan was
    wearing, it was difficult to move let alone get up after falling to his back.

    As Dan tried to raise himself from the
    floor, the J-Rod quickly approached Dan and climbed onto Dan’s torso.

    The J-Rod was positioned on his knees
    while on Dan’s torso with his hands forward leaning on Dan’s helmet-locking mechanism just below the front
    of Dan’s chin.

    When the J-Rod fell forward with his hands on the locking mechanism, he did so with clenched
    fists, which sounded like a loud bang from Dan’s perspective.

    Dan’s eyes widened but he said nothing, and did
    very little because he knew that one aggressive strike by him onto the extraterrestrial, given the fragile nature of
    the J-Rod’s body, would have easily killed the being.

    The radio system erupted with calls to rapidly change the
    internal pressure of the clean sphere in order to inflict pain on the J-Rod to incapacitate him.

    During that same
    moment, the J-Rod began to heavily entrain Dan, causing Dan to begin the relaxation process.

    This process is
    almost identical to that used by P-45K J-Rods during human abductions.

  12. rosettasister Says:

    Page 67 of 73

    The J-Rod proceeded to “download” a series of incredible visual images into
    his mind.

    This important information corroborated that the J-Rod originated from our own future, as well as
    having travelled to our distant past.

    The J-Rod also revealed to Dan that in the J-Rod’s distance past there had
    been a significant catastrophe.

    That catastrophe, by its position in the J-Rod’s past, was to then (1994) occur in
    our reasonably near future.

    The nature of the catastrophe was to have been a massive geophysical pole-shift of
    slightly less than 5 degrees which resulted in the death of over two thirds of the human species as well as the
    extinction of many of the world’s species.

    The precise cause of their catastrophe was to have been the reaction
    of the asthenosphere to a massive explosion of energy from our sun.

    The crust on many areas of our Earth was
    said to have shifted by virtue of this energy from the sun striking Earth.

    Promoting their catastrophe were
    devices that had been built, and were in operation at various locations around the Earth at the time of the solar

    Those devices were determined to be the very Einstein-Rosen Bridge accessing devices (Stargates) and
    Looking-Glass mechanisms currently being used in 1994.

    Since the time of this revelatory material being learned by the governments of Earth, all such devices have
    been decommissioned.

  13. rosettasister Says:

    Page 69 of 73

    The power plants that the flying discs and planforms used, which were housed at S-4, produce a space-time
    distortion of the kind generally explained by the previous testimony of Robert Lazar.

    The power plants however
    lacked the engineering structure to enable distant forward/backward dialing; save that of the power plant which
    had been originally placed in the Roswell craft.

    The majority of the disc-like craft at S-4 were only capable of
    promoting instantaneous point to point transit.

    Slight changes in the P-52K J-Rod and Orion power plants
    would enable those craft to acquire the same configuration as their distant predecessor craft; the “Roswell”
    terrestrial time plan-form.

    The acquisition of the cylinder seals and Stargate technology may be one reason why
    during the invasion of Iraq in 2003, one of the first places that U.S. troops were told to enter was the Bagdad

    This was clearly an effort by members of the elite to recover the technology associated with accessing
    these Stargates for personal gain.

    (see the exopolitical discussion by Dr. Michael Salla about Iraq and Stargates)

  14. rosettasister Says:

    Michael E. Salla, Ph.D
    Kona, Hawaii


    A helpful method for dealing with the inherent challenges posed by Burisch’s disclosures is to separate information that he has directly experienced or witnessed that directly pertains to his classified activities, from information he was told that is not directly pertinent.

    It is more likely the case that non-pertinent information is laced with disinformation.

    For example, Burisch was told that he was temporarily recruited into the MJ-12 Group as MJ-9 for a short period given the delicacy of negotiations with extraterrestrial visitors over stargate technologies.

    It is likely that circumstances surrounding Burisch’s ‘promotion’ to MJ-12 was possible disinformation designed to influence his beliefs concerning the importance of his classified activities.

    In evaluating Burisch’s testimony concerning stargates, one has to consider the degree to which this was relevant to his alleged biological research in Project Lotus which examined the feasibility of cellular regeneration using an esoteric particle describe as the Ganesh particle

    (see: http://www.think-aboutit.com/conspiracy/DanBurischTheGaneshParticle.htm ).

    If it was pertinent, which his training and circumstances appear to warrant, then it is likely that the information concerning stargates and Looking Glass technology is based on factual events.

    However, other aspects of his testimony concerning the motivations of different extraterrestrial factions, the intent to educate the general public about events concerning 2012, and his continued role in MJ-12 Group operations is more likely laced with disinformation.

    In conclusion, the Burisch case will undoubtedly continue to raise controversy due to the polemical positions taken by supporters and critics of his public disclosures.

    There is a need to discern what is valuable in Burisch’s disclosures of classified technologies, and to separate it from disinformation designed to distract and confuse researchers.

    This is especially important when it comes to the topic of stargate technology and likelihood that such technology drives geopolitical events such as the 1991 and 2003 military interventions in Iraq.

    If stargate technology exists to the extent Burisch describes, and this is technology that he directly experienced, it is important to consider his testimony on its merits.

    The growing scientific interest in the feasibility of ‘traversable wormholes’, time travel or stargate technology, makes it important to consider whistleblower sources from the classified world describing the existence of such technologies and their varying applications.

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  16. rosettasister Says:

    I finally figured out how to read these statistics.

    Doing better than I thought, but nothing like before.

    That’s okay, I like working “back of house.”


    Front of house (abbreviated FOH) is primarily a theatrical term, referring to the portion of the building that is open to the public. In theatre and live music venues, it typically refers to the auditorium and foyer, as opposed to the stage and backstage areas.

    “Front of house” has also come into use in the food service industry, referring to the area where the general public dines. In this context, the kitchen is referred to as “back of house”.


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    “Sister Rosetta Goes Before Us”

    Strange things are happening everyday
    I hear the music up above my head
    Though the sight of my heart has left me again
    I hear music up above

    Secrets are written in the sky
    Looks like I’ve lost the love I’ve never found
    Though the sound of hope has left me again
    I hear music up above

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    The finder’s lost
    I know I loved you too much
    I’ll go alone to get through

    I hear Rosetta singing in the night
    Echoes of light that shine like stars after they’re gone
    And tonight she’s my guide as I go on alone
    With the music up above

  20. rosettasister Says:

    Sister Rosetta, Fortune Teller, Goes Before Us

    (It has been awhile since a music link I uploaded was quarantined.)

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    Commenting over here this morning:


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