**Obama Bombshell** Blue Hawaii: Health Department falsified Obama’s birth records! By Polarik




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Sometime between October 31, 2008, and July 27, 2009, the dates of Health Director Chiyome Fukino’s two press releases, Hawaii amended Obama’s birth record.

A brand-new Certificate of Live Birth (not Certification) was issued to him.

The DOH Director decides what goes in or gets taken out of birth records.

She went on record as saying that “President Obama posted a copy of his certificate on his campaign website” even though she has refused to authenticate it for the past two years.

This created a conundrum that could only be resolved by changing Obama’s birth records to match what is in that online copy – which is a stone-cold forgery and Fukino knows it!

That forged COLB also has its origin within the DOH: watch the video to find out the shocking truth.

Dr. Conspiracy in a foul mood.

Polland posts bullshit video (updated)


“Here is the damned thing, but first I spit on it. I hope Dr. Fukino sues his sorry ass. This video is clearly malicious slander.”

“Update: One of the points Polland makes that I haven’t talked about on this blog before relates to his claim that the State of Hawaii changed the form of their birth certificate just to somehow (and it’s vague to me for what purpose) legitimize the Obama posted Birth Certificate (COLB) that Polland claims is a forgery.”

“Therefore we would normally expect Hawaii to tweak the certificate around 2008.”


RosettaSister “Polarik” posts 6/30/2008 – 12/31/2008 (These are ordered by date, so some are more relevant than others. But you can choose your own parameters.)


73 Responses to “**Obama Bombshell** Blue Hawaii: Health Department falsified Obama’s birth records! By Polarik”

  1. rosettasister Says:


    To: Polarik

    Dr C in a foul mood.

    Polland posts bullshit video (updated)


    “Here is the damned thing, but first I spit on it. I hope Dr. Fukino sues his sorry ass. This video is clearly malicious slander.”

    “Update: One of the points Polland makes that I haven’t talked about on this blog before relates to his claim that the State of Hawaii changed the form of their birth certificate just to somehow (and it’s vague to me for what purpose) legitimize the Obama posted Birth Certificate (COLB) that Polland claims is a forgery.”

    “Therefore we would normally expect Hawaii to tweak the certificate around 2008.”

    428 posted on 06/26/2010 8:26:30 AM PDT by rosettasister

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    To: rosettasister

    Dr C in a foul mood.

    Polland posts bullshit video (updated)

    Dr. CON shouldn’t be throwing around the word BS as much as he shovels it.

    “Here is the damned thing, but first I spit on it. I hope Dr. Fukino sues his sorry ass. This video is clearly malicious slander.”

    Gee Fukino, you just do that. Sue or any of the other women on Polarik’s vid – PLEASE sue! Discovery would be a B*&^ for them.

    432 posted on 06/26/2010 8:56:48 AM PDT by Red Steel

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  2. rosettasister Says:


    To: LorenC

    How about an official state announcement that the birth certificate number on the Factcheck COLB is not compatible with the “date filed” on it?

    How about an official state announcement that Obama’s BC is amended – which means that absent Obama presenting his BC as evidence to a judicial or administrative person or body as evidence, the State of Hawaii CANNOT by law claim that any of what is contained on the BC is accurate?

    What do normal people think of those kinds of announcements? What? They haven’t heard them? That’s because corrupt bureaucrats shout a lie that circles the globe before their whispered (legally-binding) truth can get its shoes tied.

    And THAT is what people need to realize, before we get taken for a ride we can never return from.

    You know what other official state announcements we have? We have announcements that permanent records no longer exist. Why do you think the HDOH is either lying about the records not existing, or else illegally destroying permanent records which could well be the only proof that would show exactly when Obama’s birth was ever recorded in Hawaii?

    And are these the people you really want to pin all your trust on?

    438 posted on Saturday, June 26, 2010 10:10:20 AM by butterdezillion

  3. rosettasister Says:

    Paul Ryan Delivers Weekly Republican Address – 6/26/2010

  4. rosettasister Says:

    I don’t believe it!

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  7. rosettasister Says:

    Did UFO buzz President Bush’s Crawford ranch?

    Report: FAA radar tracked unidentified craft flying toward Texas White House

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  8. rosettasister Says:

    UFO Sighting in Cleveland Explained


    CLEVELAND — In March, mysterious lights were spotted in the sky over Northeast Ohio. FOX 8 heard from hundreds of viewers after one man claimed it was a UFO, but some dispute that claim after an independent investigation.

    Eugene Erlikh first noticed the lights near his Euclid apartment in March, but now that it’s May? “There have been more each day,” said Erlikh. “They’ve been brighter, they’ve been more colorful and more and more people have been seeing them.”


    “Um, yeah, they’re not airplanes,” said Michael Lee Hill.

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    “Just look up, man,” said Hill. “And don’t be afraid of this phenomenon. If they meant us harm, we wouldn’t be talking right now.”

    NASA won’t comment and a spokesperson for the FAA said they’re not funded by Congress to investigate UFO sightings.

  9. rosettasister Says:


    TENCAP is an acronym for Tactical Exploitation of National Capabilities, a collection of programs that involve developing tactical (battlefield) applications out of reconnaissance satellite capabilities (which are normally thought of as strategic).

    “Special” almost invariably means “black” or highly classified.

    The phrase “Oderint Dum Metuant” is associated with Caligula, the First century Roman emperor whose name became synonymous with depravity, madness, cruelty, and tyranny. It translates “Let them hate so long as they fear.”

  10. rosettasister Says:



  11. rosettasister Says:

    RCP: Biden Calls Manager Who Told Him To Lower Taxes A “Smartass”

    Vice President Joe Biden was at a custard shop in Milwaukee for a little photo op plus a cone of the shop’s signature custard dessert. Biden also got a little advice.

    When asked how much he owed for the custard, the manager replied that it was one the house, but he would be willing to call it even if Biden were to lower his taxes. Biden, not amused, replied that the manager was a “smart ass.” Maybe there is an IRS audit in that shop’s future instead.

  12. rosettasister Says:

    Altogether Now! Bite Me, Biden!

  13. rosettasister Says:


    To: Polarik

    If this was about George Bush’s eligiblity, would take the Texas Health Department at their word?


    Or just maybe, his mother took a secret trip to Africa, gave birth to him there, and then snuck him back into the US, and the whole family covered it up for 50 years, until some random person on the internet made up a rumor about it that turned out to be true.

    I mean, that’s plausible, right?

    217 posted on 06/25/2010 1:46:25 PM PDT by LorenC

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    To: LorenC

    I mean, that’s plausible, right?

    Yeah like Obama getting his Social Security number from Connecticut….go ahead explain that one!

    229 posted on 06/25/2010 2:06:34 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)

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  14. rosettasister Says:


    To: cynwoody

    We have to take Hawaii at its word that Obama’s long form really exists and does not contradict the assertion that he was born in Hawaii.

    No. After-birthers imagine that the state of Hawaii said Obama has a long form birth certificate, a “Certificate of Live Birth.” Fukino has never said she saw an Obama long from birth certificate.

    162 posted on Friday, June 25, 2010 12:30:42 PM by Red Steel

  15. rosettasister Says:


    To: rosettasister

    Dr Conspiracy – now there’s a real winner. Here’s your phony “Dr.” with phony credentials – or should I say, NO credentials of any kind.

    Gee, I wish I could have a cool user name like Dr. Conspiracy.

    As you can see, like all libs, he’s got a bit of a problem with independent rational thinking.

    450 posted on 06/26/2010 1:07:18 PM PDT by Polarik



    1904, “exclamation acknowledging a hit in fencing,” from Fr. touché , pp. of toucher “to hit,” from O.Fr. touchier “to hit” (see touch (v.)). Online Etymology Dictionary

  16. rosettasister Says:


    To: LorenC

    First of all, we know to whom you are referring and using the third person won’t fool the moderator.

    Exactly, which part of “NO personal attacks” did you NOT understand?

    Do you really want to go, there, Loren? I have stayed away from it because you do not deserve any attention whatsoever.

    But, if you really want to go there, without making a personal attack, I will say that everything you and your boyfriend have said about me is enough garbage to fill the Grand Canyon 100 times over.

    You made yourself into a folk hero among the Left, claiming that you “outed” me when you did no such thing.

    Once my legal name was on the Internet, any idiot could have Googled it and found several million hits because I HAVE 40 years of credentials, and I HAVE the credentials to back up everything I’ve said and done.

    Did you, or your boyfriend, or your lib friends know that the word, “IMAGE” is nowhere to be found in Neil Krawetz’s credentials. Krawetz is NOT an image analysis expert, not by any stretch of the imagination. He is a computer security expert.

    All he knows how to do is run software. He reeadily admits that he cannot spot forgeries with his naked eyes and admires those who can. Everything that he has done with the COLBs, I have also done and 100 other things that he cannot do.

    Krawetz KNOWS the COLB image is bogus but he has deliberately hidden the evidence that proves it. But because he’s a Socialist liberal, he sides with Obama and you guys.

    Yes, you read that right. Krawetz believes in spreading around the wealth and why it would be a good thing for everyone to be poor.

    Krawetz also said that a person learns a skill to apply to a job – he does not learn a skill while he is on the job.

    That’s why he discounted everywhere I put down in my affidavit that I have worked with computers, scanners, and printers for over 30 years. Krawetz thinks that what he learned about scans and printouts from a book or in class for 30 minutes a day is superior to actually making scans and printouts for 30 years.

    As it turns out, I’m the only one who practices what HE preaches.

    But, you merely parroted everything he said, without question, because he has a PhD in Computer Science, as if that qualifies him to do anything and everything with computers.

    It is you who are completely incapable of reading and interpreting my credentials, just as you do not even know what you write on your own blog!

    Speaking of that blog, you turned it over to my Internet psychostalker: an insanely jealous, pathological liar who ran his mouth off about me on your blog exactly like he did on his own blog, and just like he did on every single blog and forum he joined for the sole purpose of trashing me.

    This guy is a BIRTHER and he coined the expression, “funky border” claiming it as proof the COLB is a forgery.

    But, he became anti-Polarik, and it did not matter on which side of the issue I was on – he would still be trashing me.

    He has ZERO credentials, ZERO college degrees, ZERO training in graphics, and ZERO accomplishments of any kind in his life.

    But, given you know less about graphics than he does, you teamed up with him.

    Google his name and you’ll be lucky to get more than two hits – both of which is to your blog.

    When he is not in his own fantasy world, he makes stereo wires for a living.

    Everything he said, and you said, is totally and categorically false. I have never lied about my credentials and never faked anything.

    Now, I did intentionally jerk around the libtards who were so intent on literally interpreting my online affidavits by switching the degree title’s around, but the affidavits I signed and submitted to Berg, Taitz, Keyes, Hochberg, etc., had my actual credentials and experiences.

    I CAN spot forgeries with my naked eyes and I CAN and HAVE corroborated those observations over two years and 1,500 hours of painstaking research.

    But, like true scientists, when new data becomes available, you modify your theories to fit.

    You and your boyfriend are still stuck in the Summer of 2008 when nobody had ever seen a real 2007 COLB.

    The fact that you are incapable of going onto the Florida State University website and actually reading the descriptions of the focus areas of my degrees, is not my fault.

    Nor is it my fault that you do not understand the difference between a degree major, a program major, and a program track.

    But, clearly, you have no idea what “forensics” means, or “digital imaging,” or even know how to do true research (you copy very well, though).

    I never said I was a “forensics” anything, even though the research I’ve done for two years IS exactly what forensics scientists do.

    The word, “forensics” appears a total of three (3) times in my 260,000 word final report and they all refer to Factcheck, not me.

    This is the same 260,000 word, 160 page, 210+ image final report that you never read and your boyfriend refused to read.

    He said, and I quote, “I don’t have time to read through all of this” so he goes back to July 2008 and totally twists what I said.

    He spent several months spewing total garbage about me, but he “doesn’t have the time” to read a research report that has been online since September 2008?

    That is the epitome of BS.

    He also is famous for going into my Photobucket account, which now has over 1,000 images, and – before I locked them down, he would pull them off, without knowing anything about them, and then make false claims.

    For example, there is a copy of Michele’s COLB that had the Seal penciled over. He accused me of doing that when, in reality, Michele did it.

    By the way, there was another image of Michele’s COLB that he displayed on YOUR blog which he describe, and I quote, “It looks exactly like the Kos image.”

    I only have a few hundred Michele COLB images, but the one he pulled off and touting as being the same – which is a ludicrous statement – was one I modified. So, I’ll take that as a compliment.

    Bottom line is, Loren, you do not know diddly-squat about anything having to do with Obama’s birth certificate.


    That alone disqualifies you from this conversation.

    478 posted on 06/26/2010 3:37:18 PM PDT by Polarik

  17. rosettasister Says:

    “It is widely said, and I had accepted this without thinking, that President Obama has a personal copy of a long form birth certificate among his family papers, as evidenced by a reference to a “birth certificate” made in his book Dreams from My Father.”

    “I want to do further research on this, but if President Obama has a birth certificate among his family papers issued around 1966, chances are good that it is not a long form.”

    — Dr. Conspiracy

  18. rosettasister Says:


    To: butterdezillion

    The Constitutional eligibility language was deliberately taken out.

    Why if BO/BS is a natural born citizen?

    The next day Pelosi signed the normal certification,

    Then why do both versions have the same signature date of August 28th and in the same location(Denver)?

    20 posted on 06/27/2010 5:18:50 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! http://www.FairTaxNation.com)

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    To: Man50D

    She signed both certifications on the day after the HDP signed their certification.

    The point is that the HDP signed theirs first (rather than a month later, as usual) and Pelosi had to sign a different one made up specially because of the HDP’s refusal.

    The HDP could always have printed up their usual one and signed it later.

    Their signing it first was their indication that they were not going to certify his eligibility.

    Probably because the HDP’s usual attorney was William H Gilardy – the divorce lawyer for Ann Dunham in the Soetoro divorce.

    He’s probably seen the only valid BC Obama had before 2006: the Kenyan one.

    Finding that the HDP refused to certify Obama’s eligibility SHOULD HAVE meant that further investigation was in order.

    It’s been a long time since I looked it all up, but the DNC relies on the state parties to check out the candidates.

    Since the Hawaii (supposedly home-state) party refused to certify Obama’s eligibility, Pelosi can’t use that excuse as the reason she signed the certification.

    Nor did Pelosi or anybody else in the DNC (or HDP for that matter) ever even ASK to see Obama’s birth certificate.

    The HDOH has disclosed that in a response to me.

    The fact of Hawaii law is that since his BC is amended it would have done no legal good for them to see it anyway, because the probative value of the BC can only be determined by a judicial or administrative person or body when the BC is presented as evidence.

    But if Pelosi et al had asked to see the BC they would have known that the only legal way to certify the guy would be to take the BC to a judge and have him decide on the merit of the birth claims on it.

    Because she didn’t do that, we KNOW that Pelosi perjured herself and that Obama “failed to qualify” as POTUS by the time of the inauguration

    (in the terms of the 20th Amendment)

    and thus Constitutionally could not be the president.

    Dick Cheney should have been placed as temporary president on Jan 20, 2008 until Congress could figure out a way to choose a QUALIFIED POTUS.

    When I spoke to a representative at the HDP and asked

    *** what attorney approved the changes to their certification of nomination ***

    when the changes were made, etc,

    all I got back was a barrage of how stupid the “birthers” are and that he wasn’t going to tell me a thing. End of story.

    When I called Joe Sandler’s office the secretary had a sudden meeting she had to go to but she would return my call, which she never did.

    23 posted on 06/27/2010 5:53:33 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)

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  19. rosettasister Says:

    45% — 54%

    Rasmussen Obama Approval

    3rd day in a row stuck at 45.

  20. rosettasister Says:

    28% Say Civilian Control of Military Bad for U.S.

    Nevada Governor: Sandoval (R) 55%, Reid (D) 33%

    Utah Senate: Lee (R) 58% Granato (D) 28%

    47% Support Obama’s Decision To Fire McChrystal, 36% Oppose

    (I guess I’m in the minority on this one.)

    Rasmussen Reports

  21. rosettasister Says:

    Massachusetts Governor – Baker vs. Patrick vs. Cahill Boston Globe/UNH Patrick 38, Baker 31, Cahill 9 Patrick +7

    Washington Senate – Rossi vs. Murray Rasmussen Reports Murray 47, Rossi 47 Tie

    North Carolina Senate – Burr vs. Marshall SurveyUSA Burr 50, Marshall 40 Burr +10

    Nevada Governor – Sandoval vs. Reid Rasmussen Reports Sandoval 55, Reid 33 Sandoval +22

    Utah Senate – Lee vs. Granato Rasmussen Reports Lee 58, Granato 28 Lee +30

    Real Clear Politics

  22. rosettasister Says:

    Mark Steyn

    The Unengaged President

    Obama’s lack of interest in the world is evident in his handling of the oil spill and the Afghan War.



    “What are his core beliefs?”

    It would seem likely that his core belief is in himself.

    It’s the “nothing else” that the likes of Cohen are belatedly noticing.

    Wasn’t he kind of unengaged by the health-care debate?

    That’s why, for all his speeches, he could never quite articulate a rationale for it.

    In the end, he was happy to leave it to the Democrat Congress and, when his powers of persuasion failed, let them ram it down the throats of the American people through sheer parliamentary muscle.

    Likewise, on Afghanistan, his attitude seems to be “I don’t want to hear about it.”

    Unmanned drones take care of a lot of that, for a while.

    So do his courtiers in the media:

    Did all those hopey-changers realize that Obama’s war would be run by Bush’s defense secretary and Bush’s general?

    Hey, never mind:

    Moveon.org have quietly disappeared their celebrated “General Betray Us” ad from their website.

    Cindy Sheehan, the supposed conscience of the nation when she was railing against Bush from the front pages, is an irrelevant kook unworthy of coverage when she protests Obama.

    Why, a cynic might almost think the “anti-war” movement was really an anti-Bush movement, and that they really don’t care about dead foreigners after all.

    Plus ça change you can believe in, plus c’est la même chose.

    Except in one respect.

    There is a big hole where our strategy should be.

    It’s hard to fight a war without war aims, and in the end they can come only from the top.

    It took the oil spill to alert Americans to the unengaged president.

    From Moscow to Tehran to the caves of Waziristan, our enemies got the message a lot earlier — and long ago figured out the rules of unengagement.

  23. rosettasister Says:

    Where is Martin Luther?

    I am diametrically opposed to Obama on almost every issue, but I still pray for the man.

    Perhaps I should pray for his mind, which is ever the builder.

    Maybe Obama knows he’s a one-termer. And he’s stubbornly sticking to his guns.

    I still don’t know if he’s a true believer or if he’s just plain stubborn.

    I’d like to believe that our leader has our best interests at heart.

    A lot of people don’t believe that.

    A lot of people believe it’s all about power, and doing whatever it takes to stay in power.

    So I’m still holding out hope that Obama will change his mind and become a president for all Americans.

    But if he chooses to remain thick-necked, then I’m wondering where is the Martin Luther who’ll post 95 Theses on the door of the White House?

  24. rosettasister Says:

    File this under: Bite Me, Biden!

    Draft law: Kenyan clergy calls for prayers

    With just a month to the August 4th referendum, the Anglican Church of Kenya has urged Christians to dedicate the month of July to pray for the nation.

    Posted: Sun, Jun 27, 2010


    Anglican bishops have been divided on whether to back or reject the Proposed Constitution at the referendum.

    Last week the Catholic Church also called for a day of prayer as voters consider their stance on a referendum on the country’s draft constitution.

    In a letter read at Masses throughout Kenya, Cardinal John Njue of Nairobi, chairman of the Kenya Episcopal Conference, asked that prayers be offered to seek God’s guidance during a particularly trying time in the country’s history.

    “As a country we are praying for a peaceful referendum and campaign to continue without dividing Kenyans on tribal lines,” Cardinal Njue said.

    *** Church leaders have opposed the draft constitution, which includes clauses they believe could lead to the legalization of abortion and the entrenchment of Islamic courts. ***

    (Islamic courts = Kadhi courts = Sharia)


    Meanwhile, the no team was in Nakuru where Higher Education Minister William Ruto denied claims that his team was being funded by foreign churches.

    “We have not received a coin from anybody. We don’t believe that you can buy citizens to change their stand.

    Those who believe in buying people are actually the ones who want money as they tried to make it a government project,” Mr Ruto said.


    Biden promised “money to flow.”

    In his speech Wednesday at the Kenyatta International Conference Centre in Nairobi on the second day of his visit to Kenya, Biden re-affirmed President Barack Obama’s support for Kenya’s constitutional review process, saying a new constitutional dispensation was a key requirement to foreign investment in the country.

    “As you prepare to write a new history for your nation,

    *** resist those who try and divide you based on ethnicity, or religion, or region ***

    (Biden, have you read the proposed constitution? Why is it okay with you that Muslim women in Kenya be governed by Sharia law?)

    and above all, fear,” he said.

    He said there were untapped foreign investment opportunities in this country that can only be explored if tangible reforms are carried out.

    “We are hopeful, Barack Obama is hopeful, I am hopeful that you will carry out these reforms to allow money to flow,” he added.

  25. rosettasister Says:

    Lawmakers Seek Probe of Obama Admin Push for Pro-Abort Kenyan Constitution


    The Siljander Amendment, language annually included in the State, Foreign Operations Appropriations Act, reads: “None of the funds made available under this Act may be used to lobby for or against abortion.” Violations are subject to civil and criminal penalties under the Antideficiency Act, 31 U.S.C. § 1341.

    Rep. Smith pointed out that the State Department “has pledged to spend $2 million to build support for the proposed constitution.” “Abortion is violence against children and exploits women,” he added.

    “Kenya’s current constitution includes no reference to abortion and abortion is not legally permitted in Kenya except to save the life of the mother,” the lawmakers wrote in their letter requesting a probe. “Any expression of support for or opposition to the proposed new constitution … unavoidably involves lobbying for or against abortion.”

    The lawmakers say the matter is “particularly salient given the prominence of the abortion issue in the public debate over the referendum,” noting that the chairman of Kenya’s Committee of Experts on Constitutional Review identified abortion as “one of the four most contentious issues in the proposed constitution.”


    MSM ignoring this story eerily reminiscent of when they protected Obama after the massacre in Kenya and chose to look the other way and didn’t want to tie Obama to Odinga.

    Then as now Odinga made deal with Kenyan Muslims that Kenyan rule of law would not apply in Muslim-dominated areas.

    And our pathetic feminists are willing to throw Muslim women in Kenya under the bus.

  26. rosettasister Says:

    Slave to Love: Best of the Ballads

    Bryan Ferry

    13. Sonnet No. 18 – Bryan Ferry, Kamen
    14. Avalon
    15. Where or When – Bryan Ferry, Hart, Lorenz
    16. To Turn You On
    17. Windswept
    18. My Only Love






    My Only Love


  27. rosettasister Says:

    Did you see the moon setting this morning?

    “Desert Moon Rise”

    “… the mountains between Carefree and Black Canyon City. On Dec. 1, I found a promising ridgeline east New River and shot the moon rising above the mountain range.”


    La luna está triste y celosa







  28. rosettasister Says:

    Loreena Mckennitt 01 Incantation


  29. rosettasister Says:

    Young Robert Byrd

    Robert C. Byrd, shown here as a member of the House in 1958.

  30. rosettasister Says:

    Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell said he had learned about Byrd’s passing with deep sadness.

    “Senator Byrd combined a devotion to the US Constitution with a deep learning of history to defend the interests of his state and the traditions of the Senate,” McConnell said in a statement. “We will remember him for his fighter’s spirit, his abiding faith, and for the many times he recalled the Senate to its purposes.”

  31. rosettasister Says:

    Junger on Afghanistan


    GEN. McCAFFREY: These people were brutal, they’re a threat, they’re–and I think, at the end of the day,

    our consequences if we withdraw, Sebastian’s got it dead right, will be a catastrophe for the Afghan population.

    JUNGER: But let’s remember some history here. Al-Qaeda was in Afghanistan when they attacked on 9/11.

    They’re in Pakistan right now because we’re in Afghanistan.

    You know, if we pulled out, what they have is what they had before 9/11.

    They have–I mean, when they’re in Pakistan, they’re in the tribal territories.

    It’s not a–it’s not an area that’s connected very well to the rest of the world.

    In Afghanistan, they had an airport, they had an economy, and they had a failed state that had no extradition treaties with the rest of the world.

    So they can do what they want, and there is no way to get at them short of military force.

    So we pull out of–you’re right, they’re in Pakistan, but we pull out, they’re going to be right back in Afghanistan.

    *** They have not attacked the West successfully since they had to vacate Afghanistan. ***

    RICKS: I would agree with that.

    I think if you want an endless war, Congresswoman, leave Afghanistan right now,

    and you’ll find us having to go after al-Qaeda again and again there for decades.

  32. rosettasister Says:

    ‘Meet the Press’ transcript for June 27, 2010

    John McCain, Barbara Lee, Sebastian Junger, Wes Moore, Tom Ricks, Gen. Barry McCaffrey (Ret).


    MR. GREGORY: Sebastian, weigh in on that.

    MR. JUNGER: I’ve been reporting from Afghanistan since ’96, for the first 10 years of that, from the perspective of the civilian population.

    It’s of incredible concern to me. I mean, human–these are human rights watch figures.

    Since NATO has been there, 16,000 Afghan civilians have died in combat operations. It’s a horrifying number.

    *** That ended a period of violence in Afghanistan under the Taliban where 400,000 Afghans were killed. ***

    So we really do need to assess the effect of pulling out on the Afghan people, first of all.

    It’s–people back here don’t realize that.

    I think that, you know, the left–and I’m, I’m left wing–when they talk about withdrawal, their concern is the humanitarian impacts of war.

    But they do not remember the ’90s.

    MR. GREGORY: And let’s remember something.

    The news of the day today is that the ethnic minorities in Afghanistan are really worried that

    you’ve got a Pashtun leader in Hamid Karzai who’s going to negotiate with the Taliban, bring them into the government,

    *** the same Taliban government that terrorized women, that terrorized the Hazaris and other ethnic minorities, Tajiks and others. ***

    There could be a civil war once we pull out.

  33. rosettasister Says:

    Feinstein on Afghanistan: Lift Withdrawal Deadline If Petraeus Needs More Time


  34. rosettasister Says:

    Transcript: Sens. Feinstein, Graham on ‘FNS’


    WALLACE: Senator Feinstein?

    FEINSTEIN: Well, I have great respect for General Petraeus.

    I think he really should be a command presence of all of it.

    I think 10 years into it…

    WALLACE: Over the civilians?

    FEINSTEIN: Over the team.

    If the team isn’t right, I think Petraeus’ views should be taken into consideration and observed by the administration.

    This is kind of, if you will, not a last ditch stand, but it is a major change in the middle of the surge, and I think you put the general in, he should make the call.


    If he can’t work with the ambassador, the ambassador should be changed.

    If he can’t work with Holbrooke, that should change.


    I mean, I think we put all of our eggs in the Petraeus basket at this stage.

    WALLACE: And let me just quickly follow up on that.

    If Petraeus comes to the president in the spring of 2011 and says,

    “You know, this July deadline — I need six more months,”

    should that…

    FEINSTEIN: I would say give it to him, absolutely.

    Now, let’s talk about the deadline.

    This is a transition point toward the beginning of a withdrawal or a draw down, as Petraeus said in his transcript before the armed services.

    And I think he has flexibility, realistically.

    Ten years is a long time to fight a war, particularly with what happened before the 10 years.

    And so we need to understand that

    to get the military trained,

    get the government online,

    secure and stabilize

    and, I think,

    do away with the drugs to a great extent —

    *** because the drugs are now fueling the Taliban. ***

    (“do away with the drugs” How?)

  35. rosettasister Says:

    Reality is the friend of conservatism.

    Real Tax Cuts, Real Spending Cuts


    If congressional Republicans are going to argue for a balanced budget (or a less-unbalanced budget) and tax cuts,

    they are going to have to make — once again, whipping it up from scratch — the case for a limited central government.

    Americans are fairly receptive to that argument at the moment, but not as eager as some of my fellow conservatives would like to believe:

    Cut Social Security checks by 20 percent and that limited-government tea-party mob will be the one that comes around to tar and feather your sorry congressional hide.

    But the case can be made.

    And while making the case, Republicans in Congress are going to have to make something else:

    a big list of things they are actually willing to cut.

    Otherwise, they will be refusing to recognize the reality in which they should be grounded, and they’ll be confirming Anonymous Aide’s cynical worldview.

    Instead, Republicans would do well to beat the Democrats at their own game:


    Offer Nancy Pelosi the extension of unemployment benefits — so long as she produces dollar-for-dollar cuts elsewhere in the budget.

    And then fight to extend the Bush tax cuts — with dollar-for-dollar spending cuts to match.


    Steny Hoyer’s out there saying that Democrats are going to be left with no choice but to raise taxes on the middle class, Obama’s campaign promise be damned. No choice?

    Republicans should give him some options.

  36. rosettasister Says:

    Glenn Beck and Bircher W. Cleon Skousen


    Skousen is a bit too breathlessly agitated for my tastes and that’s the same criticism that I have of Beck. It’s a “personality thing.”

    I just don’t like that style of breathless agitating and demagoguery.

    But the fact is that I agree with them that there is a Marxist conspiracy.

    It’s not a formal organization. It’s simply that many Western intellectuals are Marxists and they are dedicated evangelists for communism.

    The true believers have been successfully proselytizing their religion of “Christless Christianity” for 160 years.

    posted by Barry the Barbarian

  37. rosettasister Says:

    Glenn Beck – Interviews – David Horowitz

    Nov 13, 2007


    GLENN: You know, I’m reading — have you ever read any Skousen? Have you read — do you remember “The Naked Communist”?

    HOROWITZ: Yeah.

    GLENN: I went back and reread that, it was printed in the 1950s. I reread that recently.

    You look at all the things the communists wanted to accomplish, it’s all been done. It’s all been done.

    HOROWITZ: Here’s the way I measure what’s happened to the Democratic party and the country.

    John F. Kennedy was a Reagan Democrat.

    GLENN: Yeah.

    HOROWITZ: He was a militant anticommunist. He was a hawk on the fence.

    He had the largest military buildup in peace time history in his three years in office.

    He was for a balanced budget and a capital gains tax cut, and the cabinet was composed of, you know, Republicans.

    Defense, treasury and Secretary of State.

    If John Kennedy were alive today, he would be called a right wing conservative.

    GLENN: Oh, yeah.

    HOROWITZ: That’s how far the Democratic party has moved to the left.

    Yet when I read the “New York Times,” for example, on Sunday, had two books on the McGovern campaign.

    And of the reviewers, one of whom is a Provost at Columbia said, well, the Republican party has gone far to the right but not — the Democratic party is just a moderate party.

    GLENN: I’ve got to tell you, I think that the Republicans have become the Democrats. They are the —

    HOROWITZ: They shifted to the left dramatically.

  38. rosettasister Says:

    Glenn Beck Attacks Progressivism, Ergo, He’s A Dangerous Nut, Says Alleged Conservative Journalist.


    Beck, as I interpret his remarks, has identified common threads between the various “totalitarian monsters” and American politicians.

    There is no question that both TR and Wilson thought America had many problems with it that required radical remedies.

    Both were heavyhanded statists and Wilson’s presidency, in particular, was, tyrannical in many respects.

    Jailing political opponents, as Wilson did, because they opposed America’s entry into World War One, was at the time and still today remains the behavior of a despot.

    I share Beck’s distaste for Wilson.

    He was a terrible president who deserves to be trashed in the history books and Beck is doing the nation a great service by refreshing its collective memory.

  39. rosettasister Says:


    Obama is now Hugo Chavez in nicer clothes. It is time to impeach this aspiring tyrant. #tcot #tlot #ocra


  40. cynkading Says:

    Hi Rose, thought I would stop by and let you know that Grammy has passed away. Just so sad….We just lost another good patriot. I also am posting what jr posted at the other site.

    jrinNC says:
    June 28, 2010 at 10:08 am

    Sorry I haven’t been around much. Just wanted to let you know that I’m having some health issues – it appears I have a blood/heart infection and I’ve been feeling pretty bad. I’m going to the hospital tomorrow for another test and if they can’t find the infection, they are probably going to keep me and try to find the source of the bacteria. It may very well stem from my dental appointment in early April because symptoms have been showing up since around Easter. They used to give me antibiotics before and after cleaning but have now changed the protocol and don’t do it any more. Yuk! Hopefully I’ll be able to be around more once they figure out how to treat the problem. I’ve been on penicillin for 10 days with no results. I’ll keep you posted. Rosalie




  41. rosettasister Says:

    49% — 50%

    Rasmussen Obama Approval

    Wow! How did that happen?!

    I seriously doubt that 49 number will stand.

  42. rosettasister Says:

    June 28, 2010

    Louisiana Voters Strongly Support Offshore Drilling, Deepwater Drilling

    25% Favor Immediate Troop Withdrawal from Afghanistan, 28% Say Send More Troops

    52% Favor Repeal of Health Care Bill

    South Carolina Governor: Haley (R) 52% Sheheen (D) 40%

    Rasmussen Reports

  43. rosettasister Says:

    Sen. Robert Byrd Dies, Fate Of Seat Uncertain


    Governor Joe Manchin

    Manchin is term-limited in 2012, and is thought to want the seat.

    Manchin is pro-life, an NRA member, and is the type of Democrat who travels to Iraq and signs a missile “Sending you to hell, from Almost Heaven, West Virginia.”

    So look to Manchin to warm the seat until he can run for it, either in 2010 or 2012.

    The Republican bench in the state is still pretty thin — the only Republican holding statewide or federal office is Rep. Shelley Moore Capito.

    She’s thought to be interested in a promotion, but would probably find a steep hill to climb against Manchin, even in this political environment.

    NOTE: I should add that the third option, which I am guessing is the most probable, is that there would be a special election scheduled sometime in 2011, a la what happened with Scott Brown.

    Regardless, the winner of that election would have to run again in 2012 to fill the remainder of the term.

  44. rosettasister Says:

    “butterdezillion” contd


    To: Menehune56

    I don’t really care what happens to Obama, although it would be nice to be rid of him.

    My big gripe is precisely the people in the ruling class who have totally trampled the Constitution and even the most basic laws (such as reporting forgery, perjury, etc).

    I was prepared to just ride out the Obama faux-presidency until I started communicating with the HDOH and began to realize exactly how corrupt every agency in Hawaii and across the nation is.

    Last week I found out that within days of a private mail I sent here on FR discussing a particular issue, the Veterans Administration and Social Security Administration both altered their records in order to cover up the existence of the information I am seeking.

    I have screenshots to prove the fact and timing of their alterations.

    They may well destroy those critical documents which would prove beyond anybody’s doubt the fact that

    *** Obama stole someone’s certificate number to put on his BC ***

    We’ve got Quantico and Centcom repeatedly showing up on hacker lists at The Post & Email, which intends to file a suit against them.

    Every level of law enforcement that I have contacted has ignored everything.

    Every government office I have contacted has ignored the potential crimes I’ve reported.

    The HI Ombudsman’s Office in particular has said that they can’t investigate crimes.

    I can’t publish the documentation yet, but we know that the Hawaii AG office is basically taking orders from the feds.

    The degree of corruption we’re talking about is mind-boggling and includes every level of government, media, and law enforcement.

    This story must never be allowed to “go away” just because Obama goes away.

    I hope and pray that Obama goes away, but only because the rule of law kicked in and the crimes all along the way were documented and the perps received their just legal rewards for them.

    I will not be done with this until Nancy Pelosi, Barack Obama, Joe Sandler, the jerks at Factcheck, Chiyome Fukino, Janice Okubo, John Brennan, and all the others who altered government records and committed misprision of felony, perjury, forgery, and other crimes are in jail for a very long time.

    34 posted on 06/27/2010 1:59:33 PM PDT by butterdezillion


  45. rosettasister Says:


    To: Kenny Bunk

    I think the conservative leadership has to know that there are lots of us who realize the utter lawlessness that we’re living in and we want to solve the root causes that got us here.

    We HAVE to address the vulnerabilities of the system that destroyed our ability to petition the government for a redress of grievances – because everything this administration has done is a grievance, yet because the whole country is being screwed at once we the people don’t have standing to even attempt to get justice.

    Obama’s people have been bombarding us with SO MANY violations of law that we CAN’T simply address them one at a time.

    We have to plug the damn hole – the system that refuses to enforce the law because it is not accountable to the people who know that crimes are being committed.

    If conservative leaders can focus their attention onto the root vulnerabilities that got us here, they can come up with a strategy.

    Unfortunately, I don’t think they see the big picture.

    Their response to the “birthers” tells me that.

    It tells me they have no clue the level of lawlessness we’re dealing with, or how much critical infrastructure has already been lost to the political mob.

    My focus with the eligibility issue has always been the utter failure – and downright treason at this point – of government, media, and law enforcement.

    As long as a politician believes the eligibility issue is too delicate, risky, or “conspiratorial”, they DEFINITELY DON’T COMPREHEND WHERE WE’RE AT OR THE DRASTIC MEASURES NECESSARY.

    When we have leaders who are in tune with the public enough and aware of the position of lawlessness that we’re in, they will answer media questions about whether Obama needs to prove his eligibility with “Hell, yes!”

    None of this tentative, afraid-of-media-reaction-or-backlash waffling.

    26 posted on 06/28/2010 6:48:00 AM PDT by butterdezillion

  46. rosettasister Says:


  47. rosettasister Says:


    To: rosettasister

    “It is widely said, and I had accepted this without thinking, that President Obama has a personal copy of a long form birth certificate among his family papers, as evidenced by a reference to a “birth certificate” made in his book Dreams from My Father.”

    “I want to do further research on this, but if President Obama has a birth certificate among his family papers issued around 1966, chances are good that it is not a long form.”

    – Dr. Conspiracy

    525 posted on 06/27/2010 9:13:43 AM PDT by rosettasister

    [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 524 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]


    To: rosettasister

    “I want to do further research on this, but if President Obama has a birth certificate among his family papers issued around 1966, chances are good that it is not a long form.”

    – Dr. Conspiracy

    I’ll give the Doc a clue, take a look at the Nordyke twins long form and whey were issued. Imagine Obie needing a BC for kindergarten, what did he use? What did the twins use?

    526 posted on 06/27/2010 9:20:58 AM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)

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  48. rosettasister Says:

    Obama’s very own long form? (retracted)


    The original has been retracted because the evidence just doesn’t back it up.

    If President Obama found a state-issued birth certificate among his family papers, it would most likely have been a negative photocopy, like that seen from the 1966 issuance of a certificate for the Nordyke twins.

  49. rosettasister Says:

    Invasion! U.S. ‘sanctuary city’ succumbs to illegals

    1st municipality to fire all public employees after being forced into bankruptcy


    The city of Maywood, Calif., hit the budget wall after it decided not only to be a sanctuary city, but to be a completely “safe haven” for illegal aliens seeking protection from deportation.

  50. rosettasister Says:

    ‘Manchurian President’ author on Fox Business

    Klein to be guest on America’s Nightly Scoreboard


    Among the many finds of “The Manchurian President”:


    A coalition of extremists, including a founder of William Ayers’ Weather Underground domestic-terrorist organization, helped craft Obama’s “stimulus” bill.


    Obama’s health-care policy, masked by moderate populist rhetoric, was pushed along and partially crafted by extremists, some of whom reveal in their own words that their principal aim is to achieve corporate socialist goals and a vast increase in government powers.


    Extremists are among Obama’s “czars” and other top advisers. New information links top advisers Axelrod and Valerie Jarrett to communist activists. The book uncovers correspondence in which a communist confesses to mentoring and educating Axelrod and helping the top Obama aide to secure his first job. Obama then later worked with the same communist, the book finds.


    Evidence shows in 1995 Obama was a member of the socialist New Party, which sought to infiltrate the Democratic Party to ultimately mold it into a socialist-leaning organization. Perhaps more startlingly, the book reveals how New Party founders are currently helping to craft White House legislation.


    Copious research reveals more about Obama’s deep ties to Ayers, uncovering for the first time where and how Obama first met Ayers – and it is much earlier than previously believed.


    Important aspects of Obama’s carefully covered-up college years, with new details of his student career at Occidental College and later at Columbia University, are revealed.


    Obama’s associations with the Nation of Islam, Black Liberation Theology and black political extremists are also revealed, with extensive new information on the subjects.


    Obama’s deep ties to ACORN, which are much more extensive than previously documented elsewhere, are covered. The book also crucially describes how a socialist-led, ACORN-affiliated union helped facilitate Obama’s political career and now exerts major influence in the White House.

  51. rosettasister Says:

    Glenn Beck’s ‘instructively bad’ novel races to No 1 spot

    Rightwing Fox News host Glenn Beck’s apocalyptic political thriller The Overton Window debuts at top of New York Times bestseller list, despite critical mauling


  52. rosettasister Says:

    Is financial reform in trouble thanks to Brown and Byrd?


    The political calculus for U.S. financial reform is suddenly more complicated.

    Last Friday’s 5 a.m. Capitol Hill compromise was meant to be the culmination of months of hard-fought wrangling.

    But Republican Scott Brown’s wavering and Democrat Robert Byrd’s death put the proposal back in jeopardy.

    I think the assumption is that Dem “no” votes Cantwell and Feingold will both switch to “yes” so that in the end losing Brown and temporarily losing the WV Dems vote won’t matter.

    But even though the early spin was that the bill got tougher on Wall Street at the end, bankers aren’t jumping from the windows today.

    That might irk Cantwell and Feingold and keep them against it.

    But I doubt it.

    Give the bill a 80-90 percent chance of passage.

  53. rosettasister Says:

    This idiot is trying to link all of these people together.

    Jan Brewer, Jeff Hall, JT Ready, Russell Pearce, Sheriff Joe Arpaio


    Pretty lame.

  54. rosettasister Says:

    Republican Ruth McClung running against Raul Grijalva in congressional district 7 showed up at his headquarters Saturday during a protest against a comment made by Grijalva who is calling for a boycott of Arizona to force repeal of SB1070.


    During an interview on MSNBC’s Keith Olberman, Grijalva said, “”We’re asking organizations, civic, religious, labor, Latino, organizations of color to refrain from using Arizona as a convention site, to refrain from spending their dollars in the state of Arizona until Arizona turns the clock forward instead of backwards and joins the rest of the union.”

    That comment sparked the protest sponsored by the Pima County Republican Party in front of Grijalva’s office.

  55. rosettasister Says:


    1200 Club President Barbara Kilness — 459-1715 or bkilness@cox.net

    The 1200 Club will hold its July meeting on July 16 at Pueblo del Sol Country Club.

    Social time will commence at 6 p.m., followed by dinner and a meeting at 6:30.

    The program will be a gubernatorial forum.

    Guest speakers are Gov. Jan Brewer (tentative), and candidates Dean Martin and Buz Mills.

    Reservations may be made by calling Barbara at 459-1715 by July 14.

    Cost is $20 per person.

    For reservations, contact Barbara Kilness at 520-459-1715 or bkilness@cox.net

  56. rosettasister Says:

    An Ancient Muse is the seventh full-length studio album of the Canadian singer, songwriter, accordionist, harpist, and pianist, Loreena McKennitt.

    It was released on November 20, 2006 internationally, and November 21, 2006 in the United States and Canada. It was her first studio album after a 9-year gap.

    Track listing

    1.”Incantation” – 2:35
    2.”The Gates of Istanbul” – 6:59
    3.”Caravanserai” – 7:36
    4.”The English Ladye and the Knight”[3] – 6:49
    5.”Kecharitomene”[4] – 6:34

    6.”Penelope’s Song” – 4:21
    7.”Sacred Shabbat” – 3:59
    8.”Beneath a Phrygian Sky” – 9:32
    9.”Never-ending Road (Amhrán Duit)” – 5:54













  57. rosettasister Says:

    Made some changes.

    You can click “Play” button for a particular song

    – OR –

    You can click on the green button which will link you with page for that song

    4shared “Playlists”




  58. rosettasister Says:

    Music of the Andes – Inti-Illimani – Amores Hallaras


  59. rosettasister Says:

    “Don’t Drop Bombs” is the second single from Liza Minnelli’s album Results, produced by Pet Shop Boys and Julian Mendelsohn.

  60. rosettasister Says:

  61. rosettasister Says:

    I just found a balloon in my pool.

    It says, “We missed you, Nemo.”

    I swear!

  62. rosettasister Says:

    Liza Minnelli — Results

    “Don’t Drop Bombs” – 3:39


  63. rosettasister Says:

  64. rosettasister Says:

    Liza Minnelli — Results

    All songs written by Chris Lowe and Neil Tennant, except where noted.

    1.”I Want You Now” – 4:41
    2.”Losing My Mind” (Stephen Sondheim) – 4:11
    3.”If There Was Love” – 6:47
    4.”So Sorry, I Said” – 3:14
    5.”Don’t Drop Bombs” – 3:39

    6.”Twist in My Sobriety” (John Kander, Fred Ebb, Tanita Tikaram) – 4:51
    7.”Rent” – 3:54
    8.”Love Pains” (Steve Barri, Michael Price, Dan Walsh) – 4:10
    9.”Tonight Is Forever” – 5:04
    10.”I Can’t Say Goodnight” – 4:52












  65. rosettasister Says:

    cynkading Says:

    June 28, 2010 at 12:31 pm

    Hi Rose, thought I would stop by and let you know that Grammy has passed away. Just so sad….We just lost another good patriot. I also am posting what jr posted at the other site.


    jrinNC says:
    June 28, 2010 at 10:08 am


    Sorry I haven’t been around much. Just wanted to let you know that I’m having some health issues – it appears I have a blood/heart infection and I’ve been feeling pretty bad. I’m going to the hospital tomorrow for another test and if they can’t find the infection, they are probably going to keep me and try to find the source of the bacteria. It may very well stem from my dental appointment in early April because symptoms have been showing up since around Easter. They used to give me antibiotics before and after cleaning but have now changed the protocol and don’t do it any more. Yuk! Hopefully I’ll be able to be around more once they figure out how to treat the problem. I’ve been on penicillin for 10 days with no results. I’ll keep you posted. Rosalie





    cyn, you are so kind to let me know about this.

    I am so sorry for your loss.

    “ryansgrammy” was always so kind and thoughtful and that is how I will remember her.

    I extend my deepest sympathy to her family and friends and all of the Heyoka Patriots.




  66. rosettasister Says:

    Maybe grammy can knock some heads together up there in heaven and get something done down here!

    May she rest in peace.

    I’ll be praying for you, grammy!

  67. rosettasister Says:

    New Thread:

    The mind of the surviving soul at death


  68. rosettasister Says:

    Commenting over here this morning.


  69. rosettasister Says:

    Commenting over here this morning.


  70. calli Says:

    Hi Rosetta, so sorry to here about your friend.So sad. I am sure she earned her wings. She will now be looking out for you and the rest of the gang as well as her family.

  71. rosettasister Says:

    calli Says:

    July 2, 2010 at 5:57 am

    So good to hear from you, calli!

    Thank you for your words of comfort.

    I hope this finds you well.


  72. rosettasister Says:

    Commenting over here this morning.


  73. rosettasister Says:

    New Thread:

    ‘To his Excellency General Washington’ By Phillis Wheatley


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