Obama, nuclear disarmament and the support of moderate Arab states by Nahum Barnea


Nahum Barnea (Hebrew: נחום ברנע‎) (born 1944) is an Israeli journalist who writes for Yedioth Ahronoth and Ha’Ayin HaShevi’it. He won the Israel Prize in 2007.


A UN committee in New York made an embarrassing decision, which challenges Israel’s nuclear ambiguity. The Obama Administration sacrificed the immediate Israeli interest on the altar of two matters that are more important in its view: Firstly, nuclear disarmament. Obama adopted the idea, which was actually born in the American Right. Secondly, the support of moderate Arab states, headed by Egypt.

Egypt has trouble accepting something that others possess and it does not. For years, it has engaged in an international campaign against Israeli nukes. There is no contradiction between its struggle against Israel’s nuclear program and its objection to Iranian nukes: It views both as a threat to its security and status.

Israel sustains two blows here: Instead of concern over Iran’s nuclear armament prompting international institutions to close ranks with Israel, it merely worsens our isolation. It would be nice to think that the condemnations of Israel are lip service aimed at serving as cover for harsh, effective measures against Iran. Yet for the time being it doesn’t look like that.



Rethink Gaza policy


The UN decision, in the manner it was drafted, left Netanyahu no choice but to issue a counter-statement. The Turkish-Hamas flotilla also left Israel with one choice only: Trying to hinder it.

Yet when he goes to bed at night, somewhere in Canada, the prime minister would do well to think not only about today and tomorrow, but rather, about two days from now. Perhaps it is time to end the nuclear ambiguity. What was perhaps good for deterring enemies that plot to take over Israel with tanks may not deter an enemy that plots to eliminate Israel with missiles. Israel’s nukes apparently don’t scare Iran. The question is whether they scare anyone in the current-day Middle East.

The Gaza question also begs further thinking. The Gaza blockade has failed apparently. It did not prevent rockets and other weapons from being transferred into the Strip. It did not weaken Hamas. Yet it did present Israel’s security establishment in a ridiculous light. Nobody was able to explain why cilantro, or up until recently clothes, were considered a security threat banned from the Strip.

And if the prime minister is not falling asleep, he can also think about what he’ll be telling President Obama in their upcoming meeting in Washington. Obama will want to get something ahead of his meeting with Mahmoud Abbas. Nice words won’t do.

It appears that everything converges towards autumn – September, October, or November: The Iranian question, Mitchell’s mediation efforts, the settlement freeze, elections in the US, the domestic political pressures, Barak’s timeline, and possibly an indictment against Lieberman.


Time has a strange quality in the Middle East:

When things happen, when we see initiative, when there’s action – time stands still.

On the other hand, when nothing happens, time flies.

The summer had not yet started, yet we already see autumn, with the clouds and wailing winds.

Indeed, the prime minister has plenty to think about in his bed, somewhere in Canada.

 November 22, 2009 — Clinton interviewed by Political journalist Nahum Barnea on Saban Forum, Israel

67 Responses to “Obama, nuclear disarmament and the support of moderate Arab states by Nahum Barnea”

  1. rosettasister Says:

    Israel stations nuclear missile subs off Iran


  2. rosettasister Says:

    NATO General in Afghanistan: Taliban Train in Iran

    NATO commander in Afghanistan says Taliban train in Iran, warns of slow progress in war


  3. rosettasister Says:

    Pakistan: 7 arrested over links to sect attackers


    The government has been criticized for lacking the will to crack down on militants in Punjab, many of whom are part of now-banned militant groups that were started with government support in the 1980s and 1990s to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan and pressure archenemy India.

    Many of these groups, including Lashkar-e-Taiba, Lashkar-e-Jhangvi and Jaish-e-Mohammad, have formed links with the Pakistani Taliban, which has recruited militants to carry out attacks in parts of Pakistan far from its sanctuary in the northwest near Afghanistan.

    Police said the seven men arrested over the past two days in different parts of Punjab belonged to a variety of militant groups but refused to specify which ones.

    The arrests were fueled by information gleaned from one of the attackers who was captured Friday.

  4. rosettasister Says:

    Know Your Enemy — Othman Ahmed al Ghamdi

    Former Gitmo detainee now a senior al Qaeda leader in Yemen



  5. rosettasister Says:

    VIDEO: Rajai Shahr Prisoner Recently Raped and Tortured Exposes Story from Prison


    HRANA News – one of the prisoners in Rajai prison in the city of Karaj discussed the abuse and sexual assault he has endured. He hopes to spread his story and the injustices inflicted on him.

    This video was taped in Rajai prison in Karaj during the end of the month Ordibehesht (around May 20, 2010). Due to security reasons, we are not able to discuss how we obtained the video. The person in the video is still detained in Rajai Shahr prison.

    This video is a clear indication of the inhumane treatment of prisoners. HRANA will share more videos with advocacy groups.

  6. rosettasister Says:



  7. rosettasister Says:

    Another Obama scandal ignored by LameStream Media

    “an administration increasingly known for outlandish stonewalling of Congress and the press and for its Justice Department’s refusal to investigate any purported administration wrongdoing”

    EDITORIAL: Walpin-gate reopens

    Fired inspector general files a new court petition


    President Obama dismissed the widely respected Mr. Walpin on June 11, 2009, shortly after Mr. Walpin issued two reports highly embarrassing to political allies of the president.


    Mr. Walpin’s latest motion seeks a writ of mandamus, an order from a superior court to force a lower court to do its job.

    In this case, Mr. Walpin is trying to have the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit issue an order for Judge Roberts to rule on all pending motions or else transfer the case to another judge who will actually do his job.

    The new petition explains that this is not merely about finding vindication for Mr. Walpin.

    It notes that inspectors general “are increasingly an integral part of federal agencies as bureaucracies expand and [thus] stretch Congress’ ability to monitor and provide effective oversight.”

    Inspectors general “ensure … that wrongdoing does not go uncovered because of political interference.”

  8. rosettasister Says:

    Who watches the watchdogs?


    It is supposed to be the Federal Inspector Generals who by law cannot be dismissed without written notice.

    President Obama fired Inspector General Gerald Walpin without notice.

    This IG exposed Kevin Johnson, former NBA star, friend and supporter of Obama, for the misuse of hundreds of thousands of dollars of AmeriCorps grant money.

    Although politics is a rough game, Mr. Walpin deserves the protection of the law for conscientiously doing his job.

    No matter what administration, the whistleblowers are silenced.

  9. rosettasister Says:

    And how about …


    And how about his staged town hall meetings, where he took questions only from planted supporters;

    his phony assertions of executive privilege;

    his punitive firing of AIG watchdog Gerald Walpin for investigating his friend;

    a bizarre lack of accessibility on stimulus fund data; and

    his Justice Department’s dismissal of a case already won against New Black Panther Party members for voter intimidation and then stonewalling both the Commission on Civil Rights and a Freedom of Information Act request by The Washington Times seeking reasons for the arbitrary dismissal?

  10. rosettasister Says:

    santana supernatural playlist


  11. rosettasister Says:

    Where you are, that’s where I wanna be
    And through your eyes, all the things I wanna see
    And in the night, you are my dream
    You’re everything to me


    You’re the love of my life
    And the breath in my prayers
    Take my hand, lead me there
    What I need is you there

    I can’t forget the taste of your mouth
    From your lips the heavens pour out
    I can’t forget when we are one
    With you alone I am free


    Everyday, every night, you alone
    You’re the love of my life
    Everyday, every night, you alone,
    You’re the love of my life


    We go dancing in the moonlight
    With the starlight in your eyes
    We go dancing till the sunrise
    You and me we’re gonna dance, dance, dance

  12. rosettasister Says:

    Needed a Daft Punk Fix











  13. rosettasister Says:

    daft punk discovery playlist


  14. rosettasister Says:

    Timeline: The Sestak Bribe and the White House Coverup


  15. rosettasister Says:

    Bubba Accuses Rush of Birtherism


  16. rosettasister Says:


    To: Seizethecarp

    If BO/BS is a natural born citizen per Article 2 Section 1 of the Constitution then why did the DNC and Nancy Pelosi fill out two different version of the nomination document?

    The one inclusive of the passage referring to him being Constitutionally qualified was sent to Hawaii.

    (click on link for image)

    Why not send just the one with the Constitutional reference to all 50 states if he is a natural born citizen?

    21 posted on 05/29/2010 12:54:41 PM PDT by Man50D

    To: Man50D

    Is this for real?? Wow. How does Nancy Pelosi explain this???????

    34 posted on 05/29/2010 2:06:33 PM PDT by Yaelle

    To: Yaelle

    Is this for real?? Wow. How does Nancy Pelosi explain this???????

    It’s for real. She doesn’t have to explain since it has been buried by the media.

    36 posted on 05/29/2010 2:14:23 PM PDT by Man50D

  17. rosettasister Says:

    47% — 53%

    Rasmussen Obama Approval

  18. rosettasister Says:

    Michael St. Clair is a Swiss born astrologer and futurist and author of Light-Seeds, Future of Planet Earth.

    Michael has a vast and highly accurate track record of economic and political predictions.

    As a young man he studied law and political sciences at Zurich University and also served as a Swiss army Intelligence Officer before beginning his career advising high-profile clients in special situations world wide.

    After twenty years of advisory activity and of esoteric and economic studies, he created in 1999 a stunning twin work of cosmology and metaphysics.

    St.Clair’s ‘Atlantis Oracle’ & ‘Icons Of Destiny’, redefining mundane astrology and divination, revealing other forces delineating the future of mankind.

    Michael admits that he has been aware of things since he was 5 years old and would see pictures and situations in his mind only to see them occur several days later in real life.

    He became aware of a force that was working with him that helped him to see more clearly amidst a family dynamic of intellectualism and logic.

  19. rosettasister Says:

    More Like This:


  20. rosettasister Says:


    More recent interview here:

    January 1st 2010

    An Interview with Michael St. Clair

    Listen to An Interview with Michael St. Clair


    Michael St Clair is an astrologer in Europe with a background in economics and law.

    He is a child prodigy born in Switzerland who has authored several books, some of which include Light-Seeds: Futures of Planet Earth, Foreseen: Beyond Time, The Art of Time Travel, Zen of Stars: Designing a Sane World, and Passage 11.

    Michael blends information from astrology, remote viewing, and even time travel to bring an enlightening and inspiring message about how you can reclaim your power in a world under siege.

    Michael St.Clair, an astrologer born in Zurich, Switzerland, has a vast and highly accurate track record of economic and political predictions.

    As a young man he studied law and political sciences at Zurich University and also served as a Swiss army intel officer before beginning his career advising high-profile clients in special situations world wide.

    After twenty years of advisory activity and of esoteric and economic studies, he created in 1999 a stunning twin work of cosmology and metaphysics.

    St.Clair’s ‘Atlantis Oracle’ & ‘Icons Of Destiny’, redefining mundane astrology and divination, revealing other forces delineating the future of mankind.

    In 2002 St.Clair published his acclaimed book Passage 11 on the internet, which some have termed the true spiritual thriller of our time.

    It explains in easy to understand words our true History and its Cosmic genetics.

    In 2005 St.Clair began to see the development of a future Contact Center, and the spread of Radiant Zones.

    Sacred islands of light appearing all over the earth, as well as a City of Gold in the land of the Alpine Celts.

    His web site Light-Seeds.com is consulted daily by thousands who actively prepare for this crossing into the 5th world cycle.

  21. rosettasister Says:


    The question was [and is]: are ETs friendly or not? Can we trust them or not?


  22. rosettasister Says:


    Again, FWIW.

    I’m fascinated by Michael St. Clair, but the Edgar Cayce readings are where it’s at for me as far as Creation is concerned.

    ETs – The Monkey & The Mushroom

    – disclosure video by NewMind Tech –

    unravels the pseudo history of mankind.

    Earth humans have been studied and were genetically altered by extra-terrestrial races.

    It was not a ‘good relationship’, and many of them are having to return here to sort out the mess they created tens of thousands of years ago.

    The Monkey & The Mushroom is a light-hearted unveiling of techniques used by ‘technologically superior’ interplanetary travelers,

    who used toxic fungi to alter the genetic codes of the Earthbound human species,

    and to induce altered states of awareness that the ‘Earth Monkey’ entered naturally –

    but the ET races had to induce in order to study the humans living on the surface of the planet.

  23. rosettasister Says:

    The question was [and is]: are ETs friendly or not? Can we trust them or not?


    [….] it is a complete deception for someone to lead you to believe that your fellow humans are the ‘bad guys’ and so-called ETs are the ‘good guys’.

    (Yes, but it is possible that SOME humans are bad and SOME ETs are good.)

    The first point is that the strange lights and phenomenon are not physical in the sense we understand material existence, and the second point is that most of them are not extra-terrestrial.

    They are not travelling here from other star systems and from other planets .. to visit inhabitants here on Earth.

    Interplanetary civilizations do exist, but most of them are not communicating with Earth humans at this period in Earth’s history.

    Most of the phenomenon, lights and craft people are seeing come from Earth TERRESTRIAL time-space.

    This level of contact has been taking place for millions of years on this planet.

    They are Interdimensional, they are time-shifting, they are coming from the Earth’s future, and they are coming from the Earth’s past .. and not all of them are ‘friendly’.

    Steven Greer is wrong, and Kerry is right to question this ..

    (I agree that Dr. Greer is wrong to assume that all negative ET experiences are MILABS, both Melinda Leslie and Niara Isley have stated that they prefer one type of abduction over the other. Agreed. But I appreciate Dr. Greer very, very much.)

    The time-space dimension on Earth is vulnerable to exploitation.

    There are different Time-Line intrusions accessing this current space-local, and they are extracting DNA, and messing around with the spirit energies ..

    and this is a program which uses so-called ‘Black Operations’ as a front ..

    these humans don’t know what they are doing, because if they did know they would not co-operate.

    (Hear that, Dr. Kissinger?!)

    On this current world most of us are stupid, oppertunistic and dumb.

    This unfortunate state of mind is being exploited by intrusive ETs.

    Just go and read the James Interviews to understand a small part of the current situation here on Earth at this present time.


    (Haven’t read yet, FYI.)

    Is it not up to you to figure out the truth for yourself?

    No one else is going to do it for you ..


    Our failure of perception is translated in the question: Are they friendly or not?

    Human beings have been interacting with these forces since they began inhabiting the Earth, and the whole interaction is out of balance.

    This is probably because a lot of the imbalance was created by inter-dimensional oppertunism.

    Mankind went along with this, because of his own oppertunism.

    You see the imbalance all around you.

    There are ‘companion-forces’ on the Earth who are part of the spiritual and emotional growth of the human species.

    Those are the energies we need to get in touch with first – not what is coming from outside.

    The question is not, are so-called ETs friendly?

    The question is what do they want? (Agreed.)

    The only way to answer that question is for you to get strong, find your own inner navigation, connect with your own inner knowing and be able to read and understand the information that exists as a defining signature when you interact with other life forms.

    Many of the ‘friendly’ contacts do not want mankind to have

    magnetic-field technology

    because those systems – when misused – can do a lot more harm than Hydrogen bombs and Atomic bombs ..

    and that is the main reason this technology is being suppressed on Earth at this time.

    If you would advance to a higher spiritual (emotional) state and transform your inner world?

    An inner rebellion against Self[interest] .. a transformation of the inner unifying principle, a journey into your own unique alchemical field.

    That is why we are here.

    (Sounds pretty good. But St. Clair does not address the hybridization program, which I believe to be very real and very much a part of our material world. If this is happening, then why is it happening? And what, if anything, can we do about it? And what do we want to do about it? I, for one, want contact.)

  24. rosettasister Says:

    You have been suspended from St.Clair Zone

    Sorry, sisterrosetta, you can not access St.Clair Zone as you have been suspended.

    If you think you’ve been suspended in error, you can contact the administrator.


    I swear, I have been banned from some of the best places on the planet!


  25. rosettasister Says:

    NEWS of the WEIRD — World’s leading astrologer Michael St.Clair on Obama Ascendancy – “Whoever is caught in the prediction of Obama being president, will now also have a certain part in the responsibility of what is about to unfold.”


  26. rosettasister Says:

    Who’s zoomin’ who?

    Is Clinton covering for Obama?

    Or is Obama covering for Clinton?

    Or is Sestak covering for one or both of them?

    Or are all three men covering for Hillary?

    Just askin’.

    Remember Sestak was a Hillary guy all the way.

    Memo to Sestak:

    Please stop with the jacket over the shoulder thing.

    It looks as though you’re trying to look suave and way too calm.

    Trying to, but not quite succeeding.

  27. rosettasister Says:

    PM cancels White House meeting due to Gaza flotilla events

    Netanyahu calls off meeting with Obama to deal with crisis over lethal naval raid. Security Council to hold emergency session


    Israel’s prime minister has called off a planned visit to the White House to deal with a crisis over Monday morning’s naval raid on the Gaza aid flotilla, which killed 15 pro-Palestinian activists.

    Netanyahu, who is in Canada, was set to travel to Washington to meet with President Barack Obama on Tuesday. But his office says he decided to return home early after Monday’s commando raid.

    Earlier, the PM clarified that he “fully supports” the Navy’s raid on ships carrying pro-Palestinians activists and supplies for the residents of the Hamas-ruled territory.

  28. rosettasister Says:

    One minute of Remembrance

    How to Participate


    Wherever you are, observe the Moment at 3 p.m., local time, on Memorial Day.

    Ask others to remember—relatives, friends, church, neighborhood, or co-workers to observe the Moment at places such as your neighborhood, local pool, picnic grounds, etc., for one minute of Remembrance.

    Participation can be informal as ringing a bell three times to signify the Moment.

  29. rosettasister Says:

    46 — 54

    Rasmussen Obama Approval

    Overall, 46% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the president’s performance. Fifty-four percent (54%) disapprove.


  30. rosettasister Says:

    Oil Spill Tars Dems’ Reputation for Competence

    A Commentary by Michael Barone


    Where are we now?

    The oil spill puts Obama’s reputation for competence in doubt, while the public opinion polls make it clear his ideology is being rejected much more emphatically than George W. Bush’s ever was.

    Bush’s bipartisan education and Medicare prescription drug bills were never rejected and targeted for repeal by substantial majorities, as Obama’s partisan health care bill has been.

    Bush’s tax cuts never elicited the dismissive scorn that voters continue to express toward the Obama Democrats’ stimulus package.

    On foreign policy, Obama gets relatively good marks on Iraq and Afghanistan, where he is arguably following the trajectory of Bush’s policies.

    While Bush was in office, Democrats issued fire-breathing calls for ending America’s involvement in the conflicts, but today that sentiment is voiced by only a small segment of the electorate.

    Before the oil spill, the Obama Democrats, noting their policies’ unpopularity, might have asked voters to decide on “competence, not ideology,” as Democratic nominee Michael Dukakis did in 1988.

    Now, suddenly, that doesn’t seem like a viable theme for 2010 or 2012.

  31. rosettasister Says:

    Paging Glenn Beck!

    Mark Tapscott: Will journalists wake up in time to save journalism from Obama’s FTC?


    Release of the Federal Trade Commission’s working paper on “reinventing journalism”


    makes it clear that there is no more time for diplomacy about this issue:

    *** Barack Obama is determined to federalize the news industry just as he has banking, autos, and health care. ***

    Everybody who wants independent journalism had better wake up to these three facts about what is going on right now:

    * Journalists must understand that there is no way the First Amendment’s guarantee of freedom of the press will survive if the federal government regulates the news industry. Those who accept at face value protests to the contrary or the professions of pure intentions by advocates of government takeover of the news business are, at best, incredibly naive.

    * Journalists who remain silent or apathetic about what is being prepared for their profession become unintentional accessories in the strangulation of independent journalism.

    * Journalists who support or assist, for any reason, the FTC process are accomplices in the strangulation of independent journalism.


  32. rosettasister Says:

    The Perils of Rising Government Debt

    Friday, May 28, 2010

    The following House Budget Committee economic analysis examines

    the emerging debt crisis in the United States:

    the nature and growing threat of sovereign debt;

    lessons from the ongoing crisis in Greece; and

    warning signs and market signals that policymakers must heed to avert disaster here at home.



    Economic Analysis of Looming Debt Crisis


    Debt Threat Charts


    Prepared by House Budget Committee Republican Staff Authorized by Ranking Member Paul Ryan (WI)

  33. rosettasister Says:

    BRITO: BRAC the federal budget

    Fiscal commission needs real power to cut programs

    One commission that has this power and thus consistently delivers results is the Base Realignment and Closure (BRAC) Commission.


    A truly BRAC-like commission could do a brilliant job with a concrete goal, such as identifying federal programs that should be shuttered.

    In fact, if Congress and the administration truly want to curb federal spending, a BRAC-like commission would be a great place to start.

    Members of Congress probably believe in principle that they need to reduce spending.

    What they want to avoid is identifying specific programs to ax.

    To give itself political cover, Congress could delegate this narrow task to an expert panel and give that panel clear, performance-based criteria on which to base its recommendations.

    Importantly, though, Congress also must make sure the commission’s recommendations are effective immediately.

    In order to stop handing over money, Congress must tie its own hands.

  34. rosettasister Says:

    The Sestak ‘Job’ Offer: A Hatch Act Violation for Sure


    Only Rahm Emanuel could orchestrate the presidential appointment that the former president offered Sestak, by virtue of Emanuel’s position as chief of staff.

    That Mr. Emanuel did so, according to Bauer, to advance the interests of the Democratic party leadership, proves, not eliminates, the Hatch Act violation.

    It remains to be seen whether Mr. Emanuel, or anyone else involved in offering Congressman Sestak a federal appointment in exchange for dropping out of the Senate race, will be held accountable.

    OSC, which the president has yet to nominate a special counsel to lead, does not appear to have opened an investigation.

    Regardless of whether Mr. Emanuel takes the fall, however, the White House should be held accountable to the American people, especially the Democratic voters of Pennsylvania, for having the audacity to intervene in the Senate primary race.

    Robert Bauer’s memo not only fails to justify legally the White House’s conduct, it fails to explain why the White House believed it was appropriate to supplant the judgment of the voters of its own party as to who could best represent their interests in the Senate,

    and why it believed it was appropriate to use an official government position as an instrument to deprive those voters of a choice between two qualified candidates.

    — Scott Coffina was associate counsel to Pres. George W. Bush from 2007 to 2009 and is currently practicing in Philadelphia.

    05/31 11:52 AM

  35. rosettasister Says:

    Kentucky Senate – Paul vs. Conway


    Paul 51, Conway 45 Paul +6

  36. rosettasister Says:

    Bush backs move away from oil

    Posted Tuesday, May. 25, 2010



    DALLAS — —

    As the U.S. Gulf Coast battled a massive oil spill, former President George W. Bush told the American Wind Energy Association conference here today, “It’s in our economic interests that we diversify away from oil.”

    “It’s in our environmental interest,” the onetime Midland oilman added.

    “And, finally, it’s in our national security interest.”

    Bush, speaking at the Dallas Convention Center, said he believes that his grandchildren “will be driving electric cars, powered primarily by renewable sources of energy.”

    “I fully believe plug-in hybrids will be a transition to electric cars,” he said.

    Hybrids are combination gasoline-electric vehicles.

    Plug-in hybrids can be recharged using standard electric outlets.

    Oil and natural gas will remain vital sources of energy as the nation transitions to a new energy era, Bush said.

    AWEA Executive Director Denise Bode introduced Bush as “a wonderful, wonderful supporter of wind,” who as Texas’ governor backed a state law passed in 1999 that helped pave the way for establishment of new wind generation.

  37. rosettasister Says:

    King Barack the Verbose

    He is less accountable than the older kind of royalty.


    Greece’s problem isn’t so very difficult to diagnose.

    Like many Western nations, its government has spent tomorrow today.

    As in New York and California, public-sector unions have looted the future.

    This is the entirely foreseeable consequence of government policy.

    So what’s the solution?

    The international bailout (including a hefty contribution by U.S. taxpayers) is a massive subsidy to the Greeks to carry on doing all the stuff that’s got ’em into their present mess.

    The European motive for doing this is to “save the euro” — a currency whose very existence is a monument to the unbounded narcissism of government.

    The euro notes are decorated by scenic views of handsome Renaissance, Gothic, and classical edifices — just like the White House on U.S. currency.

    The only difference is that the European buildings do not exist in what we used to call the real world.

    They’re entirely fictional.

    That’s Big Government: Even if you don’t build it, they’ll still come.


    If you invent a currency for a united Europe, a united Europe is sure to follow.

    The princelings of the new ruling class rarely have to live with the consequences of their narcissism.

    Nancy Pelosi can monkey with your health care, but hers will still be grand.

    Greek bureaucrats can regulate your business into the ground, but they’ll still have their pensions and benefits.

    And, when the cakes are burning to a crisp, King Barack the Verbose won’t be in the peasant hovel with you but off giving a critically acclaimed speech about how the world works best when we all get an equal slice of the pie.

  38. rosettasister Says:


    To: Polarik; little jeremiah; Fred Nerks; BP2; El Gato

    Dr. Polland, apparently you have another segment coming out soon?

    One in which you will reveal the names of the two people who’s COLB was used to forge Barry’s?

    In addition, some email exchanges you had with Factcheck.org Director Brooks Jackson, Jess Henig, and Joe Miller in which their story’s differed?

    253 posted on 05/21/2010 10:33:53 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN’S STATUS BE “GOVERNED” BY GREAT BRITAIN? – Leo Donofrio (2009))

    [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 251 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]


    To: rxsid

    I guess you’ve been hanging out at the P&E. I’m working on a feature article for them in which I will talk about my chat w/ Factcheck.

    As for the the COLB owners, one of them works in Hawaii’s Health Department.

    254 posted on 05/30/2010 9:21:15 PM PDT by Polarik (Obama: When destroying America is not enough.)

    [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 253 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]


  39. rosettasister Says:


    Joseph Maine says:
    Friday, May 21, 2010 at 3:22 PM

    Where did Mr. Polland’s posts/responses go?


    Mrs. Rondeau replies: Rather than submitting the information in Comments, he has been encouraged to prepare an editorial or investigative article so that the information is not shared piecemeal, but rather, in a manner which does his research the most benefit.

    Joseph Maine says:
    Friday, May 21, 2010 at 6:27 PM

    Nice. New things are coming out, I presume, as he hinted?

    SapphireSunday says:
    Sunday, May 23, 2010 at 4:09 PM

    I hope that Dr. Polland does write this up for us. I missed seeing his deleted comments; I would like to read them, if he doesn’t send an editorial or article.


    Mrs. Rondeau replies: We have invited Dr. Polland to put all of his thoughts and data together in an editorial or technical analysis.

  40. rosettasister Says:

    Polarik Freeper Thread


  41. rosettasister Says:

    “We have invited Dr. Polland to put all of his thoughts and data together in an editorial or technical analysis.”

    With all due respect, hasn’t Dr. Polland already done that?

  42. rosettasister Says:


    charo 28. May, 2010 at 1:47 am

    “Now Charo, I’m going to call you out on this one.

    Obviously, all you are trying to do here is make a fallacious cheap shot at the credibility of the factcheck.org report and its images.

    Why you feel you need to stoop to such a red-herring argument, I don’t know.

    All I can assume is that you don’t like the results and answers they provide and therefore have some personal wish to discredit them and Obama.” (G)

    – I said that they are not experts, and they aren’t. That is the truth.

    Maybe facetious is the wrong word.

    They themselves didn’t claim expertise (I didn’t mean to imply that), but they are non-experts nonetheless.


    “I’m sure you agree that if the content were the same, the notion of a forgery makes no sense.” (Doc C)

    I am not disputing that now that I realize what my mistake is. I made it twice tonight grrr.

    I haven’t read the Polarik (Polland) report so from what you are saying, he is accusing the campaign of digitally changing the image versus paper forgery.

    (I keep mistakenly thinking that he claimed photos were taken of a fraudulent COLB).

    It would be very obvious if a forgery occurred.

    Sandra Lines would not even be needed because the information would either be the same or not.

    So, yes, my point is moot regarding the online report.

    G, I would have no problem with the outcome if the COLB were admitted as a self-authenticating document in court.

    So far, it hasn’t been.

    When I argued about the long form on the other thread, it was a matter of principle.

    I don’t think information should be selectively revealed when there is no backing it up.

    But we have been there, done that.


    “However, if for whatever reason you wanted to share your birth certificate with the world, how would you do that?

    Would you physically request and mail me and others a copy of your certified birth certificate? No, you wouldn’t.

    You would scan it in and post it on the internet…and guess what, you would have *shock*…an “image”. (G)

    Let’s stick to President Obama’s situation rather than mine.

    Since Candidate Obama supposedly ordered COLB’s in 2007 for official business, he could have submitted one to an election official and claimed to the reporters that he showed it.

    He could have said it was submitted to “X” and that could have been verified by asking “X.”

    It is certainly one way he could have handled it.

    If he indeed did submit his COLB to an official (which someone here said he could have done), why didn’t Gibbs say that he did when he was asked at the press conference about the birth certificate?

    If he didn’t submit it to an official, then he’ll have another chance in 2012.

    You asked what I would have done. That’s what I would have done.

    (Interesting, very interesting. charo seems nice and thoughtful. But I seriously doubt anyone at Dr Conspiracy’s place is very knowledgable about Polarik’s work.)

  43. rosettasister Says:

    “Sooner or later, the Democrats will have to listen.” — John McCain


    McCain, however, has revived his reputation on the issue, most recently by scoring a minor moral victory last week

    — getting his proposal to add 6,000 National Guard troops to the U.S.-Mexico border attached to the defense authorization bill being debated in the Senate Armed Services Committee.

    He and Arizona Republican Sen. Jon Kyl have led the charge against the Obama administration’s criticism of the law passed in Arizona making it a state crime to be in the country illegally.

    “If you believe in representative government, when 80 percent of the American people support something, then sooner or later,

    even though there’s a huge disconnect between Washington and the people,

    the Democrats will have to listen,” McCain told reporters after the committee vote.

    For the most part, McCain, who is considered vulnerable as long as his poll numbers hover around 50 percent, does not mention his opponent by name, though he recently took a stab at Hayworth’s record of earmarks during his six terms in Congress.

    McCain’s followers on Twitter at last count were more than 13,700 while Hayworth had just 362.

  44. rosettasister Says:

    Russell Pearce better get out in front of this one.

    Anti AZ immigration law forces are already using it to discredit new law and label its supporters racists


    Arizona lawmaker circulated white separatist e-mail

    Updated 10/12/2006


    Republican Rep. Russell Pearce has apologized for e-mailing the article from the West Virginia-based National Alliance.

    But that hasn’t stopped criticism from all directions, including state GOP leaders.

  45. rosettasister Says:

    Carrying on a conversation
    Looking in your eyes
    The words they seem to pass us by
    You know as well as I

    How many kinds of tribulation
    Must a friend endure
    The years they leave a man unsure
    Of when to beg when he is poor

    Oh baby, how I love you
    Mad as I think you are
    Guess you think I’m crazy too
    But mad mad me I love you

    Oh baby, how I love you
    Mad as I think you are
    Guess you think I’m crazy too
    But mad mad me I love you

    Carrying on in a world of silence
    Your eyes aflame to me
    They jump and burn and make me see
    How much to you I want to be

    Oh baby, how I love you
    Mad as I think you are
    Guess you think I’m crazy too
    But mad mad me I love you

    Well baby, how I love you
    Mad as I think you are
    Guess you think I’m crazy too
    But mad mad me I love you

    I said mad mad me I love you

  46. rosettasister Says:

    Poll shocker! Majority wants Obama records

    Maintain president should be chased from office if he doesn’t come clean


    “Simply put, this question about Obama’s legitimacy as president is undermining everything he does in the minds of millions of Americas,” wrote Fritz Wenzel of Wenzel Strategies in an analysis of his results.

    “Our latest polling shows a majority of Americans – 55 percent – want Obama to release all records relating to his childhood and his education, including college records, Harvard Law School papers, passport records, travel records, and other similar documentation,” he said.

    “Asked what should be done should it be found that Obama does not meet the qualifications to be president, 59 percent said he should be removed from office, and 35 percent said all bills signed into law by Obama should be repealed,” he said.

    The poll said when asked about whether Obama’s background documentation – the school records, birth records and others – should be released, the 55 percent who said yes included more than 82 percent of the GOP, 55 percent of independents and nearly 28 percent of Democrats.

    Further, another 17.1 percent of Americans said Obama should release some of his documentation, making it nearly three in four Americans who want the president to unlock the steel door on some or all of his background information.

    Despite his campaign promises of transparency while in office, there has been no shortage of disputes over secrecy in the Obama administration.

    He’s already argued in court for more secrecy in the White House, claimed his work is “privileged” and apparently got rid of an inspector general who was applying heat to a friend.

    The survey indicates Obama’s orchestrated efforts to marginalize “birthers” who are raising questions about him and his background have failed totally.

    (Wenzel Strategies? These findings would have a lot more credibility if they were coming from Rasmussen. Still, no reason to assume Rasmussen wouldn’t achieve similar results.)

  47. rosettasister Says:

    Episode V: The Return

    There is evidence that suggests we experienced 20th century alien contact.

    In 1942, the Battle of Los Angeles involved the US military and Air Defense allegedly fighting a UFO.

    WWII Allied Air Force planes were buzzed by balls of light that some think could have been extraterrestrial.

    And the alleged crash of a flying saucer in Roswell, New Mexico in 1947 propelled the world into the age of UFOs.

    For decades, some people have been searching for the sounds of extraterrestrial intelligence, while others have been sending messages out into deep space.

    What would happen if aliens answered… or came calling?

    What protocols exist to determine who would speak on behalf of mankind, and how might we communicate?

    What happens if they return?

    Some believe they already have.

  48. rosettasister Says:

    More Like This:


  49. rosettasister Says:

    The Fire Officer’s Guide To Disaster Control – UFO Landings?


  50. rosettasister Says:

    State: Petitions over IDF flotilla op biased


    State Prosecutor Moshe Lador filed a state’s rebuttal concerning several Gaza aid flotilla High Court petitions, which claimed the Israel Navy violated international law in its raid.

    Lador, and several senior officials at the State Prosecutor’s Office, asked the court to dismiss the petitions claiming they were biased, slanderous against the State and oblivious to international law milestones.

    (Aviad Glickman)

  51. rosettasister Says:

    46% — 54%

    Rasmussen Obama Approval

  52. rosettasister Says:

    60% Favor Repeal of Health Care Law


  53. rosettasister Says:


    Election 2010: Wisconsin Senate

    Wisconsin Senate: Feingold 46%, Johnson 44%

  54. rosettasister Says:

    Chrysler Dealers – Appeal Update.


    Old Chrysler recently filed their response brief to our appeal.


    We then filed a reply brief and that will speak for itself until the Southern District of New York issues a ruling.


    Leo C. Donofrio

    Pidgeon & Donofrio GP

    This entry was posted on May 28, 2010 at 1:34 PM

  55. rosettasister Says:


    To: Seizethecarp

    Leo is really bright and relentless. Steve Pidgeon is also in there fighting.

    In a normal world – this should be a slam dunk. Chrysler dealers were harmed by Obama Admins actions, Obama’s father makes him non-NBC.

    Maybe SCOTUS has the guts to take this up.

    My question is does the quo warranto only go through DC district court of appeal and can go no higher. i.e. it cannot go to SCOTUS. I am not sure.

    Mario Apuzzo’s case will have a major hearing in early June and he early on covered all the bases – he filed before hussein was in office, he sued Congress, Cheney, Pelosi and those in charge of checking. Other cases have been thrown out as judges say – well you sued the wrong person. Apuzzo’s case may have legs because the judges cannot claim that.

    5 posted on 05/31/2010 9:37:12 AM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)

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    To: Frantzie

    “My question is does the quo warranto only go through DC district court of appeal and can go no higher. i.e. it cannot go to SCOTUS. I am not sure.”

    Judge Carter and Judge Robertson confirmed that the DC District Court (the “DCDC” not the DC Appeals Court is only place that a quo warranto can be brought initially under the statute.

    I am almost certain (non-lawyer certain) that any decision by the DCDC would be subject to review by the DC Appeals Court and then SCOTUS.

    There is clear precedent for this pathway in prior non-presidential quo warranto cases under the statute.

    8 posted on 05/31/2010 10:08:57 AM PDT by Seizethecarp

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    To: Frantzie

    “My question is does the quo warranto only go through DC district court of appeal and can go no higher. i.e. it cannot go to SCOTUS. I am not sure.”

    I believe, from what Leo has written in the past year or so, that it could go all the way to SCOTUS; it depends on how Obama responds. If he refuses to comply with the District Court’s orders to provide documents, then it goes straight to SCOTUS.

    17 posted on 05/31/2010 10:50:22 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)

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    To: Frantzie; Seizethecarp

    Maybe SCOTUS has the guts to take this up.


    Not according to Clarence Thomas:

    18 posted on 06/01/2010 4:39:37 AM PDT by danamco (“)

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  56. rosettasister Says:

    Obama refuses to meet with Gov. Brewer?


    (My blood pressure is shooting through the roof!)

  57. rosettasister Says:

    AZ Gov. Brewer suspends AZ Attorney General (D-erelict) from defending immigration law after catching him in collusion with WH


    Immigration jeopradizes Obama’s ‘Win the West’ strategy


    Gov. Jan Brewer, who has gone on a nationwide media blitzkrieg to defend the immigration law, has used Obama’s opposition to S1070 to her advantage.

    Her polling has risen since signing S1070 on April 23, which followed a boost she got from joining a lawsuit against Obama’s signature health care law in March.

    Obama’s approval ratings have been dropping nationally for most of the past year.

    Gallup’s daily tracking poll shows him with a 47 percent approval rating and a 45 percent disapproval rating after posting a 50 percent approval rating just two months ago.

    But he may be worse off in Arizona, where there is strong opposition to the federal health care law and overwhelming support for just about any law that cracks down on illegal immigration.

    (Where Obama is concerned, I have to keep reminding myself that it’s wrong to be a hater. And I have to keep calming myself.)

  58. rosettasister Says:


    Should North Carolina enact an immigration law like Arizona’s?


  59. rosettasister Says:

    Daft Punk


  60. rosettasister Says:

    Tuck & Patti – Tears of Joy (including Mad Mad Me)


  61. rosettasister Says:

    New Thread:

    The silence and solitude of animals


  62. rosettasister Says:

    Commenting over here this morning.


  63. rosettasister Says:

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  65. rosettasister Says:

    Commenting over here this morning.


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    Commenting over here this morning.


  67. rosettasister Says:

    We report. You decide.

    Three well dressed men were going to kill friends and family members of contactee Alex Collier


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