We’re Off to See the Wizard!


Is Joel Rogers The Man Behind The US President? By Gina Gomez



It has now been predicted by the Fox News commentator (Glenn Beck) that Joel Rogers is the man who shapes all the policies which come out of the President’s head.

It has come to light that during the 1990s Barack Obama funded the Climate Credit Exchange program in Chicago from the Joyce Foundation.

While the Cap and Trade bill is now pending in the Senate, the previous exchange program has traded carbon credits already.

This is of utmost importance if the Cap and Trade bill has to be instituted.

Also it has been revealed that Franklin Raines, one of the President’s chief fundraisers had bought the technology required for the management of the Cap and Trade bill while he is the head of Fannie Mae.

The question in everybody’s mind is why would a mortgage lender like Fannie Mae invest money for such a purpose.

Speculation is still high but Glenn Beck has passed the verdict that Joel Rogers is in the center of it all.

See also:

Kathleen Rogers is the President of Earth Day Network (EDN), a radical environmentalist group.



Session III: The National Agenda (Federal Environmental Policies, Programs, and Latinos Today – The National Perspective) / La Agenda Federal (Política Federal Ambiental, Programas, y Latinos de Hoy en Día)

Moderator: Joel Rogers, Professor, University of Wisconsin-Madison & Founder and Director, Center on Wisconsin Strategy (COWS)

  • Jennifer Chavez, Earth Justice
  • Luis Martinez, Energy Attorney, Natural Resources Defense Council
  • Michael Gelobter, Executive Director, Redefining Progress
  • Ana Unruh-Cohen, Center of American Progress
  • Musica
  • http://www.4shared.com/audio/dMVlKrkv/11_Pinball_Wizard.html
  • This is the video shown by Glenn Beck on his Crime Inc. episode of his Fox news TV show. Glenn Beck identifies Joel Rogers as the mastermind behind the Emerald Cities/Cap & Trade Crime Inc. Business Model.

Texmom Says:
May 2, 2010 at 2:07 pm

This is not Joel Rogers’ wife. His wife is Sarah Siskind.


She is an ACORN lawyer (big surprise.)


Thanks for the correction, Texmom!

40 Responses to “We’re Off to See the Wizard!”

  1. rosettasister Says:

    Well, I’m a big fan of concept maps!

    FrontPageMag includes Joel Rogers’ wife on its DiscovertheNetworks

    There is a part of me that believes there are some on the left who are contemptuous of average Americans.

    Not held in high regard. Thought too stupid or too distracted to notice what they’re up to.

    So not yet buying into GBs latest theory, just listening.

  2. rosettasister Says:

    I am not comparing Mr and Mrs Rogers with this couple.

    But why is it they seem to come in pairs?


  3. rosettasister Says:

    “For those of you unfamiliar with Dohrn and her special love of violence in the name of radicalism, one need look no further than her December 1969 rant celebrating the brutal Tate-LaBianca murders with the exhortation, ‘Dig it! First they killed those pigs and then they put a fork in their bellies. Wild!’

    According to Discover the Networks, Dohrn had even less sympathy for those who were on the receiving end of the Weathermen’s violence:

    A Chicago district attorney named Richard Elrod was seriously injured in the Weatherman riot that erupted during the Chicago ‘Days of Rage’ in October 1969, and he was paralyzed for life as a result.

    Dohrn later led a celebration of Elrod’s paralysis by leading her comrades in a parody of a Bob Dylan song — ‘Lay, Elrod, Lay.’”

  4. rosettasister Says:


  5. rosettasister Says:

    Not all wizards are bad you know.

    Love your inner wizard.

    Why, some of my best friends are wizards!


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  7. rosettasister Says:

    Everybody Loved Raymond

    Raymond Bongiovanni


    I really do miss Raymond.

    I miss everything about him.

    I miss arguing with him.

    There are movies you could watch (probably French) which convey what it’s like for us to communicate with the dearly departed.

    They are here, but they’re not.

    How can I live without him?

    I didn’t have a choice.

    I love him so.

    But he’s here, and he comforts me.

    And he slips me lines.

    Now and then.

    But he has better things to do.

    And I am left here.


  8. rosettasister Says:

    Almost every web reference that I see about Raymond refers to him being an AIDS patient.

    That just isn’t true.

    Raymond is not your poster boy.

    Yes. he was HIV positive, but he hadn’t yet gotten full-blown AIDS.

    Maybe it was a blessing.

    He traveled to Nashville to meet with a doctor who did autopsies on AIDS patients.

    The scalpel slipped, and this doctor, unfortunately acquired AIDS.

    I have Raymond’s notes.

    Very shortly thereafter, Raymond became infected with a pseudomonad which killed him.

    His immune system was too weak to fight it off.

    Today, Raymond would still be alive.

    When this doctor heard of Raymond’s death, he ciried, oh no, not Raymond’s mind.

    But Raymond’s mind still exists.

    And, sometimes, I’m fortunate enough to be on the receiving end of Raymond’s mind.

    Raymond made that trip to acquire the film rights of this doctor’s life.

    I do remember seeing the book, but I don’t know if there’s a film yet.

    The film you might have seen recently is about the autistic woman who overcame obstacles and designed more humane slaughterhouses.


    He was very proud of that.

  9. rosettasister Says:

    Happy birthday dear magician, happy birthday to you


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  11. rosettasister Says:


    Praising az

    Heather Mac Donald

  12. rosettasister Says:

    Playing the race card is the tactic of those unwilling to make arguments on the merits. The Arizona law is not about race; it’s not an attack on Latinos or legal immigrants. It’s about one thing and one thing only: making immigration enforcement a reality. It is time for a national debate: Do we or don’t we want to enforce the country’s immigration laws? If the answer is yes, the Arizona law is a necessary and lawful tool for doing so. If the answer is no, we should end the charade of inadequate, half-hearted enforcement, enact an amnesty now, and remove future penalties for immigration violations

    From article linked above

  13. rosettasister Says:

    Additional comments here:


  14. rosettasister Says:

    New Thread:


  15. rosettasister Says:



    Discussions about Obama’s birth certificate go in this thread. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

    Cao was the first to interview Larry Sinclair:


    (Apologies if this not appropriate here. But I will return with lots of birther stuff.)

    (Would it surprise you to learn that I really don’t care if Obama smoked crack? really don’t care about Obama’s sexual orientation? But Donald Young’s murder is very troubling to me. I’m not making any implications as to Obama having anything to do with that. Larry and I agreed to disagree on that one.)

    (As far as the long-form birth certificate, which none of us has seen, there may be something on there that Obama doesn’t want us to see. Would it make him ineligible? Who knows! I’ve long held the view that even if Obama not de jure, he is de facto head of state.)

    (I don’t care about a lot. So what do I care about? I care about private property rights. The growth of the public sector is frightening to me. I care about these United States becoming less exceptional. I care about the rest of the world not looking to us for leadership.)

    (This is way off topic, but I favor HCR that emulates the system they have in Switzerland. And I look to Regina Herzlinger for leadership on that issue. And she has come out against ObamaCare.)


  16. rosettasister Says:

    Lots of news here:


  17. rosettasister Says:

    Barbara Hollingsworth: Fannie Mae owns patent on residential ‘cap and trade’ exchange


    Crooks get gold ring on Europe’s ‘carbon carousel’


  18. rosettasister Says:


    It wasn’t about mortgages. It was about greenbacks.

    The patent, which Fannie Mae confirmed it still owns with Cantor Fitzgerald subsidiary CO2e.com, gives the mortgage giant a lock on the fledgling carbon trading market, thus also giving it a major financial stake in the success of cap-and-trade legislation.

    Besides Raines, the other “inventors” are:

    * Former Fannie Vice President and Deputy General Counsel G. Scott Lesmes, who provided legal advice on Fannie Mae’s debt and equity offerings;

    * Former Fannie Vice President Robert Sahadi, who now runs GreenSpace Investment Financial Services out of his 5,002-square-foot Clarksburg home;

    * 2008 Barack Obama fundraiser Kenneth Berlin, an environmental law partner at Skadden Arps;

    * Michelle Desiderio, director of the National Green Building Certification program, which trains “green” monitors;

    * Former Cantor Fitzgerald employee Elizabeth Arner Cavey, wife of Democratic donor Brian Cavey of the Stanton Park Group, which received $200,000 last year to lobby on climate change legislation; and

    * Jane Bartels, widow of former CO2e.com CEO Carlton Bartels. Three weeks before Carlton Bartels was killed in the Sept. 11 attacks, he filed for another patent on the software used in 2003 to set up the Chicago Climate Exchange.

    The patent, which covers both the “cap” and “trade” parts of Obama’s top domestic energy initiation, gives Fannie Mae

    proprietary control over an automated trading system

    that pools and sells credits for hard-to-quantify residential carbon reduction efforts

    (such as solar panels and high-efficiency appliances)

    to companies and utilities that don’t meet emission reduction targets.

    Depending on where the Environmental Protection Agency sets arbitrary CO2 standards, that could be every company in America.

  19. rosettasister Says:



    The present invention is directed to a method of residential emissions trading and a residential emissions trading commodity. In particular, an embodiment of the present invention is a method for identifying, quantifying, and aggregating reductions in residential emissions into a tradable…

    Inventors: Franklin D. Raines, Robert J. Sahadi, Kenneth Berlin, Michelle Desiderio, Scott Lesmes, Elizabeth Arner Cavey, Carlton Bartels, Jane Bartels

    U.S. Classification

    International Classification

    What is claimed is:

    1. A method for providing a residential emissions trading program, comprising the steps of:

    identifying an energy savings opportunity in a residential property;

    quantifying an emissions reduction produced by the energy savings opportunity; and

    aggregating the emissions reductions into a tradable commodity.

  20. rosettasister Says:

    “a residential property” ???

    so not just “every company in America”

    every residential property in America?

  21. rosettasister Says:


    There are two patents

    I think

    Not sure which is which


    System and method for residential emissions trading

    US Pat. 7133750 – Filed Apr 28, 2005 – Fannie Mae, CO2e.com,



    Bl 6/ Raines …

    Systems and methods for trading emission reductions

    US Pat. 7343341 – Filed Jan 14, 2005 – Chicago Climate Exchange, Inc….

    B2* 8/ Milbrath et al 75/602


    B2* 6/ Raines et al .

  22. rosettasister Says:


    Systems and methods for facilitating trading of emission allowances and offsets among participants are described. In some embodiments, methods of facilitating such trading include establishing an emissions reduction schedule for certain participants based on emissions information provided by…

    Inventors: Richard Sandor, Michael Walsh, Murali Kanakasabai

    Assignees: Chicago Climate Exchange, Inc.

    Primary Examiner: Igor N. Borissov

    Attorney: Winston & Strawn LLP

    U.S. Classification

    705/37; 705/199



    I honestly don’t know how many patents, how they relate to one another

    I just noticed same names popped up on “residential” one linked above

    same names as glenn beck and others have been discussing

    raines, et al

  23. rosettasister Says:

    US Pat. 6904336 – Filed Nov 8, 2002 – Fannie Mae, CO2e.com, LLC

    US Pat. 7343341 – Filed Jan 14, 2005 – Chicago Climate Exchange, Inc.

    US Pat. 7133750 – Filed Apr 28, 2005 – Fannie Mae, CO2e.com, LLC

    As far as I can tell there are three patents.

    And both the 2nd and 3rd refer to the 1st patent listed above.

  24. rosettasister Says:

    Climate change: opportunities and challenges for patent owners


    With an emissions trading scheme almost upon us, businesses and inventors are already starting to apply for and secure patents for innovative methods of trading emissions, as well as for clean, energy-efficient technologies.

    For example, in the United States several patents have already been granted for ways to trade residential emissions (eg, see US Patents 7343341, 6904336 and 7133750).

    Similar patents are expected to be granted in Australia.

    So, while climate change does indeed present a challenge to industry and the community generally, Australian innovators are well placed to seize the opportunities presented.

    For further information please contact:

    Ray Tettman
    Email: r.tettman@watermark.com.au
    Tel: +61 3 9819 1664

  25. rosettasister Says:

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  26. rosettasister Says:

    yea, counts are restored, again.

    One of my favorites:


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  28. rosettasister Says:

    Favorite Album Sides (cont’d.)


    Mellow Yellow is the fourth album from Scottish singer-songwriter Donovan.

    It was released in the United States in March 1967 (Epic Records LN 24239 (monaural) / BN 26239 (rechanneled stereo)[1],

    but was not released in the UK because of a continuing contractual dispute that also prevented Sunshine Superman from a UK release.

    In June 1967, a cross-section of both albums was released as Sunshine Superman (Pye Records NPL 18181) in the UK.

    “Mellow Yellow” was the name of Donovan’s hit single released the previous November.

    All tracks by Donovan Leitch

    Original album

    Side one

    1.”Mellow Yellow” – 3:47
    2.”Writer in the Sun” – 4:33
    3.”Sand and Foam” – 3:19
    4.”The Observation” – 2:23
    5.”Bleak City Woman” – 2:24

    Side two

    1.”House of Jansch” – 2:43


    2.”Young Girl Blues” – 3:45


    3.”Museum” – 2:54


    4.”Hampstead Incident” – 4:41


    5.”Sunny South Kensington” – 3:48


  29. rosettasister Says:


    So while the ardor of cable viewers for the Beck show may have fallen off a bit, he’s still a potent marketing force.

    Even with smaller ratings numbers, he’s still the second-highest-rated cable news host, behind only his Fox colleague Bill O’Reilly.

    And Beck’s year-to-year drop since April 2009 was more modest than others — 7 percent among total viewers and 6 percent in the age 25-54 demographic (the viewership advertisers most covet).

    By comparison, MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann saw a ratings drop of 13 percent overall and 30 percent in the 25-54 demographic over the same period, and

    CNN’s prime-time hosts have taken an even steeper fall, down 40 percent overall from a year ago.

  30. rosettasister Says:

    Crime Inc.

    By Glenn Beck



    • Now we need investors:

    Al Gore’s company — Generation Investment Management — is the fifth largest shareholder in the Chicago Climate Exchange.

    Gore’s company has several former Goldman employees on the roster.

    Then Goldman Sachs steps to the plate and buys 10 percent of the combined company.

    • Next we need the technology:

    Fannie Mae, under the leadership of the Franklin Raines, purchases patent on system to trade residential carbon credits that was described as

    “how carbon and other pollutants yet to be determined” would be “combined into a single emissions pool” and traded —

    just as Fannie’s toxic portfolio of subprime mortgages were.

    It appears Raines wasn’t content with destroying only the housing market.

    So you have the same crooked people who have contributed to the financial meltdown

    — Goldman, Fannie, socialists and out and out crooks —

    actually trying to “fix” the economy and the environment

    and, oh boy, believe me the fix is in.

    • Now we need the law:

    Well, the law is cap-and-trade.

  31. rosettasister Says:

    Funk Campaign: From housing to carbon, special interests rule


    We know how well the hokey pokey between Wall Street and Washington worked out.

    Well now we move on to Carbon, or frankly, ANY emission’s exchange.

    There is a Chicago based company called the Chicago Climate Exchange, Inc.

    This company was originally funded by seed capital from the city’s Joyce Foundation where President Obama was a board member of at the time of its funding.

    Now, the Chicago Climate Exchange is trading about $10 billion a month worldwide according to an interview by its founder (and patent holder) Richard Sandor.

    Former Chief of Goldman Sachs, Hank Paulsen was also key in the founding of this company and exchange.

    Rewind two years from the time their patent was approved and our very own Fannie Mae received approval for their patent of a residential emission exchange.

    Which, by the way, was approved the same day the political right sealed their fate, November 7th, 2006.

    Richard Sandor claims this exchange will be global and will become a $10 trillion market.

    *** So the question is what cunning schemes Washington and other global leaders devise to create a market that will have artificial value? ***

    In an interview with Bloomberg Sandor said that there is no risk of the emissions market ever crashing because it’s “regulated” and not open like mortgage-backed securities.

    Mortgage-backed securities WERE highly regulated.

    So you likely understand my concern with the SEC regulating an industry that according to Sandor doesn’t have the “opaque” value mortgage-backed securities had when that same agency doesn’t have a stellar record when it comes to securities trading.

    Furthemore, Goldman Sachs,

    a favorite of President Obama and many other Democrats in Congress,

    just happens to own 19% of the parent company of this Chicago based emissions exchange company called Climate Exchange Plc.

  32. rosettasister Says:

    My husband was concerned about the latest between Bob Dylan and Joni Mitchell

    So I played this for him, to reassure him


    They are both wonderful – Joni and Bob

    I’d love to spend just a moment with either or both of them

    Dreamt of Joni, so feeling very fortunate already

    Hey, I kissed Harry Chapin, so anything is possible

  33. rosettasister Says:

    What’s Cao up to?


  34. rosettasister Says:

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  36. rosettasister Says:

    New Thread:


  37. Texmom Says:

    This is not Joel Rogers’ wife. His wife is Sarah Siskind.
    She is an ACORN lawyer (big surprise.)

  38. rosettasister Says:

    Texmom Says:
    May 2, 2010 at 2:07 pm

    This is not Joel Rogers’ wife. His wife is Sarah Siskind.


    She is an ACORN lawyer (big surprise.)


    Thanks for the correction, Texmom!

  39. rosettasister Says:


    To: givemELL

    US Pat. 6904336 – Filed Nov 8, 2002 – Fannie Mae, CO2e.com, LLC
    US Pat. 7343341 – Filed Jan 14, 2005 – Chicago Climate Exchange, Inc.
    US Pat. 7133750 – Filed Apr 28, 2005 – Fannie Mae, CO2e.com, LLC

    As far as I can tell there are three patents.

    And both the 2nd and 3rd refer to the 1st patent listed above.

    42 posted on Saturday, May 01, 2010 11:31:51 AM by rosettasister


    To: rosettasister

    Fannie and Freddie need to be investigated, —was there ever a final autopsy in the the suicide of the CFO that was going to blow the whistle on an accounting issue.

    43 posted on Saturday, May 01, 2010 12:23:33 PM by opentalk


    To: onyx; penelopesire; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; Pablo Mac; …

    Crime, Inc. — corruptocrats hogtying our futures
    and strangling our finances

    Crime Inc. google blog links


    44 posted on Saturday, May 01, 2010 5:22:38 PM by STARWISE


    From one of the links you suggested. Joel Rogers’ Muckety map:

    (click link to see map)

  40. rosettasister Says:


    New Thread:


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