Song of Ocarina

by

King Arthur

The ocarina is a very old family of instruments, believed to date back some 12,000 years.

http://www.4shared.com/file/141420641/1714294b/10_Diego_Modena_J_P_Audin_Song_Of_Ocarina.html

250px-Ocarinas

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http://www.4shared.com/file/141420942/85413fcc/04_La_Complainte_De_Jesse_James.html

http://www.4shared.com/file/141421000/b84ec70e/05_Mystical_Force_Flute_Solo.html

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ocarina III

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http://www.4shared.com/file/141421283/ea1ac8d2/10_Scent.html

http://www.4shared.com/file/141421346/37071966/11_Song_Of_Baby_Jane.html

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594 Responses to “Song of Ocarina”

  1. rosettasister Says:

    Just to let you know, my last post here will be on November 1st, on the 2nd Day of the Dead.

    So let’s have a good time until then.

    Rosetta

  2. Troy Says:

    Just to let you know, my last post here will be on November 1st
    ****************************************************
    Huh???….Clarify please!….Are you shutting down this blog site?

  3. rosettasister Says:

    I have other things to attend to, Troy.

    I will be reinventing myself at some point in the future, not sure where or when.

    You’ve been wonderful.

    And a sight to behold.

    I need to move on.

  4. Troy Says:

  5. Troy Says:

    You’ve been wonderful.
    *******************
    Backatcha!!!…Maybe we could or should discuss someone else taking over the blog and the responsibilities with it.

  6. rosettasister Says:

    I’ve thought of that, I think it’s a good idea.

    No rush, we have a little bit of time.

  7. Goferit Says:

    ROSE,
    OMG what a way to start a weekend!

    That pronouncement hit me right between the eyes!! If that is your choice, we will have to live with it. I personally have to tell you what a saving grace this place has been for me.

    A place where what seems like old friends can pull up a chair and pass the time wisely, or just sit back, listen and learn.

    I know you have all of our addresses, and hope you will let us know when that time comes and you will be back in action. Until then, let’s roll with the good times!

    Thank you from the bottom of my heart. Always know that ‘Rose’s Gang Rocks!’

  8. Troy Says:

    Tenacity, has anyone considered contacting the man, in the above video, to see if he would like to be involved in the CC2009?….I forgot his name, but he has a background in acting and Hollywood….It’s possible that he may have contacts that could be very helpful in the publicizing of the efoorts of CC2009….I know delegates have already been elected, but I also know that there are appointees to fill other rolls…It’s just a thought.

  9. Goferit Says:

    AND know that YOU made it happen!

  10. Troy Says:

    No rush, we have a little bit of time.
    ******************************
    Ok then, Foxie Rosie!….I know a lot of people depend on us here for a little sanity during all this craziness….If it needs to be me that steps up, then so be it or maybe a few of us long timers here will take up the slack in a team effort…We’ll figure it out and Rosie’s Place would always be your’s to take back up anytime that you wished or if like you could lurk and check in on your creation from time to time. 😀

  11. rosettasister Says:

    “I personally have to tell you what a saving grace this place has been for me.”

    Goferit, what a sweetheart you are!

    You probably can tell that musica e poesia are where my priorities lie.

    And love.

    I’m not as worried as I once was (politically).

    That might change.

    No, I prefer to be “under the radar.”

    And I won’t advertise myself.

  12. rosettasister Says:

    Sounds like a plan, Troy.

  13. Troy Says:

    Rose you can choose to answer this or not…Have you recieved any kind of outside pressure (non family) that has played a roll in your decision?

  14. rosettasister Says:

    No, not at all, Troy.

    My decision is based on me needing to be somewhere else.

  15. rosettasister Says:

    There’s a backpack on my back.

    I just need to make sure everyone here is okay.

  16. Troy Says:

    No, not at all, Troy.

    My decision is based on me needing to be somewhere else.
    *************************************************
    Ok, that is good to know….Don’t be mad at me if I’m a little worried about you now….You have been very quiet lately and I have sensed that something has been troubling you…You know that you can email me anytime you like for another’s perspective….I’m always available to you. 🙂

  17. rosettasister Says:

    Thank you, Troy.

    That is comforting to me.

  18. Troy Says:

    There’s a backpack on my back.

    I just need to make sure everyone here is okay.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    We’re tuff!!!…..Happy travels!!!

  19. CJ Says:

    Just catching up and Rose I’m sure sad that you will be closing the window to our back porch conversations. I understand completely, but it’s like one of my dear friends is moving away. It will take time to process and accept that this place of sanity will no longer be accessible to my daily visit. I have learned much here and have been able to enjoy all the give and take on the very dire problems facing Americans right now. I’m glad you feel calmer about it all, but I guess I am much more suspicious and cynical about what’s going on. I hope you are the one who is correct and not me. Anyway, change happens and we all must adapt. You deserve whatever goodness life holds for you and your family. Time is finite and so go enjoy whatever comes down the road you are walking on. Godspeed and thank you for being such a gracious, generous hostess..

    **I hope if this blog carries on in some format that we all can be notified so that we may be included if that’s okay. I don’t know if the email you have for me is correct or if it needs to be updated. Please advise when it is time to make a change how to send mine to you. Thanks so much.

  20. CJ Says:

    Tenacity: Read your follow-up on the prior thread. Thanks. Should be an issue to watch closely.

  21. patriotamy Says:

    I know you have all of our addresses, and hope you will let us know when that time comes and you will be back in action. Until then, let’s roll with the good times!

    Thank you from the bottom of my heart. Always know that ‘Rose’s Gang Rocks!’
    ********************************************
    Yes, Rose, we all will be saddened when we no longer have this place to go. To keep in touch. Please feel free to keep my email and use it whenever you need to.

    This is the one place I visit every day. To catch up on the latest news. I know how hard you have worked to keep the ‘front porch’ fresh and stimulating for all of us.

    Just want you to know how much I, for one, appreciate you and the effort you have expended.

  22. rosettasister Says:

    Troy Says:
    October 17, 2009 at 4:11 am

    Rose you can choose to answer this or not…Have you recieved any kind of outside pressure (non family) that has played a roll in your decision?

    ***

    Thank you for asking about my family, Troy.

    You are perceptive.

    No, they just exclude me.

    I do miss Raymond, he was strong and never would have let this happen.

    Raymond Bongiovanni, 41, Film Executive

    http://www.nytimes.com/1996/06/09/nyregion/raymond-bongiovanni-41-film-executive.html

  23. Troy Says:

    Thank you for asking about my family, Troy.

    You are perceptive.

    No, they just exclude me.
    **********************
    Rose, needless to say, I don’t know any of the details, but it seems like you want to talk about it some…It’s so hard for me to believe that your family would exclude you from anything…I’m bewildered!….My email is open if you wana talk some.

  24. rosettasister Says:

    I’m afraid they believe me to possess powers beyond themselves.

    I am the thirteenth child, after all.

    I oppose them.

  25. Bones Says:

    For you, Rose:

    Listen to the hearts of men,
    Listen, hearts, to Reason then,
    Reason’s held the throne too long,
    Passion’s prison, Passion’s song.

    Gaze upon the minds of men,
    Gaze then unto Passion’s den,
    Reason wears the tyrant’s glove,
    As Passion pays the price for love.

    Breathe in all the scents of man,
    Breathe, creature, deeply if you can,
    You walk the earth upright, ’tis true,
    But nothing can, your scent, undo.

    Touch man in a place so deep,
    Make him tremble, make him weep,
    Falter not, for Freedom’s birth’s
    But brief in oneness with the earth.

    Taste the power, taste the pain,
    Take comfort in wisdom all over again,
    Passion implore in your fight to be free,
    Is it folly to feel, not to think, just to be?

  26. Troy Says:

    I’m afraid they believe me to possess powers beyond themselves.

    I am the thirteenth child, after all.
    ****************************
    Hmmm….It would seem that you are referring to siblings, right?

    If that’s the case then I wouldn’t sweat it too much, but then again I come from a disfunctional family where siblings were never very close in the first place. 😦

  27. Troy Says:

    I sure do like that poem, Bones! 🙂

  28. patriotamy Says:

    rosettasister Says:
    October 17, 2009 at 4:57 am

    I’m afraid they believe me to possess powers beyond themselves.
    I am the thirteenth child, after all.
    **************************************
    And you do have an insight into people and their needs. Sometimes that can become overwhelming. Also the gift you have mentioned other times of being able to ‘see’ through your dreams.

  29. song Says:

    Well Rose, I read you nearly everyday. Seems to me that most lately you are projecting a very “meta” reality so to speak, with your cover posts…

    It speaks to me.

    I will miss you, as I have grown to know you more from what’s up front on this blog, than what is often discussed behind the scenes.

    love to you dearest friend.

  30. patriotamy Says:

    Rose, our dear friend Rosettasister, you have kept us sane and entertained in the past months.

    A heartfelt thank you!!

  31. rosettasister Says:

    Amy, thank you for noticing.

    I “see” what I see.

    Apparently, what i saw of President Bush didn’t fit into the mindset of those who opposed him.

    Let me tell you the truth.

    From the beginning, those so-called anti-war protesters were anti-Semites in disguise.

    And I will continue to oppose them.

    Good night.

  32. rosettasister Says:

    Bones,

    Thank you for the poem.

    There really are no words.

    Is that what makes a poem great?

  33. rosettasister Says:

    “you are projecting a very “meta” reality so to speak, with your cover posts”

    ***

    canción. Su ausencia será fieltro.

    As will be felt the absence of many.

    Go to sleep, good people.

  34. song Says:

    Ah Rosa! I live here on the 33rd parallel just like you, mija! Great love to you sister.

    C.P.Cavafy’s poem ‘Ithaca’, recited by Sir Sean Connery and with music specially composed by Vangelis.
    ITHACA [1910, 1911]

    As you set out for Ithaca
    hope that your journey is a long one,
    full of adventure, full of discovery.
    Laistrygonians and Cyclops,
    angry Poseidon-don’t be afraid of them:
    you’ll never find things like that on your way
    as long as you keep your thoughts raised high,
    as long as a rare sensation
    touches your spirit and your body.
    Laistrygonians and Cyclops,
    wild Poseidon-you won’t encounter them
    unless you bring them along inside your soul,
    unless your soul sets them up in front of you.
    ——–
    Hope that your journey is a long one.
    May there be many summer mornings when,
    with what pleasure, what joy,
    you come into harbors you’re seeing for the first time;
    may you stop at Phoenician trading stations
    to buy fine things,
    mother of pearl and coral, amber and ebony,
    sensual perfume of every kind-
    as many sensual perfumes as you can;
    and may you visit many Egyptian cities
    to learn and learn again from those who know.
    ——–
    Keep Ithaka always in your mind.
    Arriving there is what you’re destined for.
    But don’t hurry the journey at all.
    Better if it lasts for years,
    so that you’re old by the time you reach the island,
    wealthy with all you’ve gained on the way,
    not expecting Ithaca to make you rich.
    Ithaca gave you the marvelous journey.
    Without her you would have not set out.
    She has nothing left to give you now.
    ——–
    And if you find her poor, Ithaca won’t have fooled you.
    Wise as you will have become, so full of experience,
    you’ll have understood by then what these Ithacas mean.

  35. Casinva Says:

    Your blog is better than most other sources of news. I will be sorry to see you go. I hope you know how much peace you have given to an unsettled world and how much hope you have given to a crying nation. It was a pleasure.

  36. jrh Says:

    Lurker lamentations

    Oh we who daily read
    and rarely do we write
    some never do
    some only on a whim
    but the gain is ours
    from a gift you give
    and we know it will end
    but fear that it really will
    so that day approaches
    and a rest is deserved
    but your great work
    will be sorely missed

    Rose, you have made a greater contribution than you may know. Many, like me, have grown to live with your blog as a place of sanity and active thought from real people. I have read here steadfastly since the famed days of Korir and have greatly admired the hard work you have done every day. The thousands of posts and links, the great music, the pursuit of every angle on every serious subject, and a bit of levity to boot.

    The research and thought processes here are really second to none. I would post more but virtually every subject that interests me has already been found by the gang. So I just read, like some parasite absorbing the insights I gain here. I do harbor guilt for taking more than giving, and for that I apologize to you and everybody.

    I guess all good things must move on, but your prized place will be sorely missed by many many folks.

    Thank you so much.

  37. jrinNC Says:

    Guess I am in shock ( 😯 ) this morning. Rose, you have been a blessing to me as I am sure you are to others here. I really am at a loss for words. But got to tell you that I had a flash (which I guess you could call a vision – I call them flashes as they flash across my mind) that you would be giving up this blog. I thought to myself at the time, where would we go, what would we do. This place keeps me informed. It is a place where I have grown to care for the folks who come here very deeply and for you too Rose. I value your insight and your input. I will truly miss that Rose. Ever since we did the photo op of folks here, which you started yourself by giving us a picture of you, it seems we have grown closer, or at least that is the way I feel.

    So are you going to turn this blog over to someone, or do we have to create a new one?? I would be willing to assist anyone who wishes to take on this job or even might consider doing it myself.

    Regardless, Rose – I do wish you the very best. You have shown me through your words that you are indeed a patriotic, caring, intelligent lady. I am already missing you. 😦

  38. jrinNC Says:

    To You My Dear Rose:

    “The hardest part of any friendship is when it’s time to say goodbye. As much as we might like things to stay the same, change is an inevitable part of life. The universe may seem huge and the rift between friends on opposite side of the world may seem a great distance. There are many tools available with which we can communicate, but even without these tools there is a secret that only real friends know, and it is this. All the mountains and valleys in the world cannot separate friends whose hearts are as one. ” © Goodbye Poems from Family Friend Poems

  39. KoolAid_Free_Lexi Says:

    I understand rose. And I’m not complaining, but I do hope that you will allow the blog to stay open. Over the last yr, I’ve learned more here from everyone sharing than I could have even learned on my own w/out y’all.

    I was a lurker for months before I decided to post. One of the few good things that came out of the API drama, IMO. I decided to go ahead and post something because everyone already seemed caring toward lurkers too. I mean to say that I felt accepted even while I was yet unknown. Hope that make sense.

    Even had I not joined in, if it weren’t for this blog, I might still just be a clueless copper top, pumping out interest dollars for the FED.

    You might say that rose’s gang is my Morpeous and rose’s place is my Nebuchadnezzar.

    Thank you all sooooo much!

  40. jrinNC Says:

    The Year of Jubilee Starts NOW!! Declare It So!!

    http://freepeopleontheland.wordpress.com/2009/10/16/the-year-of-jubilee-starts-now-declare-it-so/

    Excerpt from freepeople:

    “While we would love to sit and reminisce about the good ole days with you and cry over the gloom and doom of the death of the dollar, we Free People really must look at the opportunity that exists with the end of THIS money. Come on, all God-fearing people know that you can NOT hope to bring about the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth (the 1000 year reign) with the people in bondage to such evil-doers as the Federal Reserve, the IMF/World Bank, UN, Global Oligarchs (Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Morgans, Soros, etc.

    The Bible shows us a pattern for the ending of an age of financial corruption. It was called the Year of Jubilee! We Free People, who claim our liberty from our inalienable rights (God-given), should be rejoicing at the freedom to dissolve this corrupt, tyrannical and evil system that has falsely created wars, created poverty, and has been a weapon in the destruction of all that is moral and good about mankind.

    As with the Year of Jubilee, which the Jewish people observed every 50th year, we can all continue to return to our natural inheritance through Christ Jesus and stay put in our homes and in our cars. The corruption of the last several hundred years is being brought to an end to the Glory of GOD!!! Let no one tell you this is an EVIL or terrible thing! This is God’s justice and we should be waiting for the miracle of it all to unfold for us over the next few years.

    Remember,our liberty from God is assured if we will do but two things:

    1. Love God
    2. Love they neighbor as thyself

    Without a doubt, these next few years are God’s way of leading His people back to liberty, back to morality and back to a government built on the principles of our inalienable rights. Fear not the wrecking ball the Elites believe “they” are wielding. For it can not help but be by the grace of God that we will be set free from the evil around us.

    Stand for truth. Stand for justice and seek God’s face and His glory as this amazing cleansing takes place. Trust Him to provide for you. Trust Him to watch over you. You shall do many signs and wonders.”

  41. jrinNC Says:

    The Better To Scare You My Dear Dr.

    Missing Laptop Contains Data on 800,000 Doctors

    http://freepeopleontheland.wordpress.com/2009/10/16/the-better-to-scare-you-my-dear-dr/

    The Chicago Tribune reports that some 800,000 doctors are being warned about a laptop holding their personal data that has turned up missing from the Chicago-based Blue Cross and Blue Shield Association.

    *********************************************************
    How convenient.

  42. sdee Says:

    I feel a guiding hand no more.

    How you’ve done it, a pleasant mystery to me.

    Just like home, no matter how long kept away, coming back is having never left.

    Here I’ve found faith and challenge.

    I wish it was not true. I wish I understood. I wish you the best.

    Vaya con Dios, Rose

  43. Katie Says:

    Aw, crap.

    Now I know what Norm felt like when Sam announced the closing of Cheers.

    Rose – you have given us all a safe place to vent, share, learn, rejoice, fret, and inform. I hope you know how much you are appreciated.

    How many of us never even knew what a ‘blog’ was or how to participate in one until we found Rose’s place? How many of us have changed our way of life so that when we discover something new, our first thought is “I’ve got to get this posted for Rose’s Gang”?

    Ever since that first comment I wrote that was greeted with a “Hi Katie!” from JAC, I’ve come to this site every day. Some days just to lurk. Some days to laugh. Some days to participate.

    I know I speak for all (many who have already done a beautiful job of expressing it) that we’re already feeling a major loss, conflicted with a deep sense of gratitude, and a strong wish for your happiness in whatever you pursue.

  44. Troy Says:

    Note to Rose’s Gang:

    We will keep this blog site operating in a fashion as close as possible to what Rose has established here….In the next couple of weeks Rose and I will discuss a transfer of responsibilities plan….I will do my part and kindly welcome others to participate in the effort….I think that a team effort from a few of us here should be able to keep the home fires burning until such a time that Rose may get an urge to retake this blog or even become one of the “team” members in a shared effort….If Rose decides that a complete shut down is the right way to go then I or a few of us will start a new blog site.

    We will work it out!

    Rose, you should feel very flattered and appreciated after reading through this thread….Now you can see just how important your work has been here….This is a great thing you have done here!

    I’ll be back around here later on this afternoon…Later! 🙂

  45. jrinNC Says:

    Great news Troy. I will be glad to assist you in anyway you would like. Even if I do nothing more than to continue posting or drop you ideas by email. I am always on here even if I don’t post at times. Retirement does have its advantages 🙂 I am always surfing even if I don’t post what I always find. What I post I always try to do with a commonality of interest, but I always find things that give me a better understanding of the world situation in regards to the NWO that others might not always find that earth shattering.

    Well I can rest easier this afternoon – things to do – bbl

  46. rosettasister Says:

    Casinva Says:
    October 17, 2009 at 7:11 am

    Your blog is better than most other sources of news. I will be sorry to see you go. I hope you know how much peace you have given to an unsettled world and how much hope you have given to a crying nation. It was a pleasure.

    ***

    Thank you to Cas and to all of you!

    I will be sure to go back and read your words more closely when I’m up to it (a little under the weather).

    After November 1st, I will go back to being “sisterrosetta” elsewhere and become one of our dedicated lurkers here.

    I may put up a new blog in the future, but I don’t know when or what I’ll call myself.

    If Troy really wants to admin RosettaSister, I’d like to do that.

    But I’m not quite sure HOW to do that. (Again, I’ll look into that when I feel a little better.)

    My WordPress acct is linked to my gmail acct, which I never even look at.

    Shoot, I don’t look at my hotmail acct half the time!

    So Troy may have to put up posts as RS, then log out, log in as “Troy”

    I’ve experienced every possible human emotion on this blog.

    The lowest of lows to the highest of highs.

    You’re a lovely bunch of people.

    But for now, it’s time to go back to bashing Obama!

  47. rosettasister Says:

    BTW, I will be deleting all of the files found here:

    http://www.4shared.com/play/10329682/efdae9dd/sharing.html

    Sometime between now and November 1st

  48. rosettasister Says:

    9 months! Seems like an eternity!

    Obama – I’m Not Tired, I’m Still Campaigning, I’m Fired Up !!!

  49. rosettasister Says:

    I heard this live on satellite radio when I was out and about yesterday. Rush Limbaugh’s friend and Tammy Bruce. Great stuff!

    Juan Williams is ticked after some dude named Warren Ballentine basically called Williams a “House Negro.”

  50. rosettasister Says:

    (This writer is critical of Netanyahu. I don’t know about that, but I did find Netanyahu’s quote very interesting.)

    The Goldstone commission mandated for accusing Israel of war crimes in Gaza

    http://www2.debka.com/article_print.php?aid=1409

    Yet the Israeli prime minister continued to believe that calling European leaders in person and a charm campaign among them would be enough to reduce the fallout from the Goldstone report.

    After the event – and much too late – Netanyahu’s office issued a determined statement Saturday:

    “We shall delegitimize all those who attack the legitimacy of our military.

    We’ll be every place where anti-Israel and anti-Semite forces are active.”

    He vowed to mobilize all Israel’s best resources for building a task team to combat the fallout from the UNHRC resolution and put its recommendations before a special cabinet meeting – a process that will consume several more wasted weeks.

    (I know I’m beginning to sound like a broken record. But I do believe anti-Semitism to be on the rise, again. BTW, my belief about anti-Semitism being at the heart of the anti-war movement back in 2003 stems from a lucid dream I had at the time. And Dick Cheney thanked me in this dream! Weird! Things have been pretty sh*tty in this country ever since. This fight. And these very same people are now running things! God help us!)

  51. rosettasister Says:

    And God help the Pakistani military defeat our common enemy. Lord Jesus help them! So be it!

    ***

    80 to 90 thousand people are expected to migrate from South Waziristan to Tank and Dera Ismail Khan as a result of the ongoing operation there.

    http://www.geo.tv/10-17-2009/51166.htm

    Deputy Speaker Faisal Kareem Kundi said South Waziristan operation has been launched against extremists and it is not fair to perceive South Waziristan as home to militants, because the people of South Waziristan have always supported us in difficult times.

    The US ambassador to Pakistan, Anne W. Patterson has assured US support for South Waziristan immigrants.

    ***

    Anne W. Patterson
    Ambassador
    Pakistan

    Term of Appointment: 07/06/2007 to present

    http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/biog/88177.htm

  52. patriotamy Says:

    I know I’m beginning to sound like a broken record. But I do believe anti-Semitism to be on the rise, again. BTW, my belief about anti-Semitism being at the heart of the anti-war movement back in 2003 stems from a lucid dream I had at the time. And Dick Cheney thanked me in this dream! Weird! Things have been pretty sh*tty in this country ever since.
    ***********************************************************
    Rose, I haven’t expressed my opinion on this matter before, but I too see a very large movement to delegitimize the Israelites. I firmly believe that if we turn our backs again on the chosen peoples of God that surely we will incur His wrath.

    It is one of the reasons (besides the NBC issue) that I have become more active in the political aspect of our nation. When educated men (and women) lose their morality or faith in God, they tend to ‘go with the flow’.

    It is not my business to tell them how to live, but it is my business to NOT let them tell ME how to live. It is my business to try to sway them from making decisions that determine our (America’s) stand WITH Israel. I feel that we MUST somehow get people to realize that by capitulating to all the lies and propaganda from the extreme left (not only here but in Europe and Africa) and allowing them to push through their agenda, we are giving up not only our freedom, but the freedoms of other nations as well.

    The United States has been, since its inception, the standard bearer for all people who yearned for freedom. Our inalienable right, given by our Creator, to be free is not always allowed in other nations, so they look to US to help them to overcome their oppressors.

    If we allow these people their agenda, who shall save us?

  53. rosettasister Says:

    “It is my business to try to sway them from making decisions that determine our (America’s) stand WITH Israel.”

    Very well stated, amy!

    You said it a lot better than I did.

    I always say that we Americans should listen to the Israeli leadership — Netanyahu, Shimon Peres, etc.

    And look at the polling done within Israel.

    The extreme rhetoric on both the left and the right here is, I hate to say it, unhelpful?!

    I was surprised by the Netanyahu quote above.

    But I’m glad he said it.

  54. rosettasister Says:

    Know Your Enemy

    Hakimullah Mehsud

  55. rosettasister Says:

    If you watch Hakimullah Mehsud in the above vid, you’ll see the Taliban hat he’s wearing.

    One of these hats was given to us by a good friend whose brother is over in Afghanistan now.

    Taken from a dead Talibani?

    It has a phone number written on the inside.

  56. rosettasister Says:

    Pakistani forces capture village in Taliban stronghold

    http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/10/17/pakistan.offensive.militants/

    Pakistani soldiers and militants battled Saturday in the country’s vast tribal region, with more than a dozen insurgents killed in airstrikes, at least four soldiers slain in skirmishes and a key village seized by troops, the military said.

    The fatalities come hours after Pakistani troops launched a massive ground offensive backed up by air power targeting the Taliban in South Waziristan, a refuge and a power base for insurgents operating in Pakistan and along the Pakistani-Afghan border.

    The highly anticipated offensive, which comes after a wave of suicide attacks in Pakistan, also has prompted the exodus of tens of thousands of civilians, the U.N. refugee agency said.

    One military official said Pakistani troops seized control of Kotkai, where Pakistani Taliban leader Hakimullah Mehsud has lived with fellow commander Qari Hussein, the mastermind behind some of Pakistan’s deadliest suicide attacks.

  57. rosettasister Says:

    Know Your Enemy

    The video aired by the TV channels showed Hakimullah sitting on the ground, clad in white salwar-kameez, a waistcoat and a cap.

    He was flanked by senior Taliban commanders Waliur Rehman and Qari Hussain, who is responsible for training suicide bombers.

  58. rosettasister Says:

    Not sure if these images are, in fact, who they say they are.

    With arm around the late Baitullah Mehsud (we killed him in a drone attack).

    http://www.4shared.com/file/141561241/967d9397/Hakimullah-Mehsud.html

    http://www.4shared.com/file/141561243/7873f2bb/QARI_HUSSAIN_TTP.html

    http://www.4shared.com/file/141561244/e6176718/Waliur-Rehman.html

  59. sdee Says:

    rosettasister Says:
    If Troy really wants to admin RosettaSister, I’d like to do that.

    But I’m not quite sure HOW to do that. (Again, I’ll look into that when I feel a little better.)
    ****************************

    Rose, Troy, I have WordPress blog installed on a couple of my own servers so it may be a little different than the way you use it on WordPress.com.

    I go to the ‘Users’ tab on the Admin Panel. There I can select a user and assign role of Editor to it. Making Troy an Administrator would also allow him to configure the site but that could be confusing so you may want to start him out as Editor.

    This is probably how it works for you…
    http://en.support.wordpress.com/adding-users/

    I’ve some experience with WordPress so I am happy to help you guys. Just let me know and I’ll give an email address.

  60. Troy Says:

    sdee Says:
    October 17, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    I’ve some experience with WordPress so I am happy to help you guys. Just let me know and I’ll give an email address.
    *********************************************************
    Well that is good news, because guess how much I know about WordPress….Umm, that would be a big fat ZERO, but I’m willing to learn and fumble my way through it…Also, it doesn’t necessarily have to be me that takes on the blog…As far as I’m concerned anyone is a candidate….Maybe several or a few of us could all be administrators and sort of take turns or fill in for each other….I’m open to all suggestions and ideas.

  61. rosettasister Says:

    Thanks guys and gals! You know I’m not really sure about what sex some of you are!

    I’ll try that, sdee.

    I’d prefer not to have admin access after November 1st, so perhaps Troy or whoever could become RosettaSister.

    I think someone will have to be RS in terms of WordPress acct and gmail acct.

    And I don’t want to be RS (that sounds weird).

    I think I could change passwords before the transfer, and then whoever took over could change passwords again.

    That way I wouldn’t have admin access, which I don’t want.

    Just thinking aloud.

  62. rosettasister Says:

    I honestly know what it’s like to be “on the verge of tears” exhausted. I don’t know how I ever made it to Christmas break when I was in a regular classroom.

    Maybe Mr. Beck needs a short break to recharge his batteries.

    Do you think when he cries, a lot of others are crying too?

    ***

    Glenn Beck Cries Thinking About “What Life Used To Be Like”

  63. Troy Says:

    rosettasister Says:
    October 17, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    Glenn Beck Cries Thinking About “What Life Used To Be Like”
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I know how he feels….It was why I posted this music video before and said that it gets me choked up when I listen to it….It reminds me of a much more carefree and innocent time when peace of mind was common place.

    Charley Pride – Roll On Mississippi Lyrics

    Walking along, whistling a song, bare foot and fancy free
    A big riverboat, passing us by, she’s headed for New Orleans
    There she goes, disappearing around a bend
    Roll on Mississippi, you make me feel like a child again

    Cool river breeze, like peppermint leaves, the taste of it takes me back
    Chewing on a straw, torn overalls, can’t hold an old straw hat
    Muddy river, just like a long lost friend
    Roll on Mississippi, you make me feel like a child again

    Roll on Mississippi, big river roll
    You’re the childhood dream, I grew up on
    Roll on Mississippi, carry me home
    Now I can see I’ve been away too long
    Roll on, Mississippi, roll on

    When the world’s spinning round, too fast for me, I need a place to dream
    So I come to your banks, I sit in your shade, and relive the memories
    Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn
    Roll on Mississippi, you make me feel like a child again

    Roll on Mississippi, big river roll
    You’re the childhood dream that I grew up on
    Roll on Mississippi, carry me home
    Now I can see I’ve been away too long
    Roll on, Mississippi, roll on

    Mississippi roll on
    Roll on, Mississippi, roll on
    Roll on, Mississippi, roll on

  64. rosettasister Says:

    Very nice, Troy!

    Thank you.

    Glenn Beck should use this music and video on his show.

  65. Troy Says:

    Carter shows his ethics: hires lawyer from Obama firm, as clerk Oct. 1st
    October 17, 2009 by John Charlton

    UNIMAGINABLE, UNBELIEVABLE, OUTRAGEOUS MOVE
    by John Charlton

    (Oct. 17, 2009) — In a stunning blow to the impartiality of the American Judicial system, Federal Judge David O. Carter, who is hearing the case Barnett vs. Obama, has just hired a lawyer who works for a law firm where Robert F. Bauer, one of Obama’s top lawyers is a partner. And that, just days before the Oct. 5, 2009 hearing on the Motion to Dismiss, in which his demeanor radically changed, according to Dr. Orly Taitz, esq., lead counsel for the Plaintiffs.

    Siddharth Velamoor is the lawyer chosen by Carter to serve as one of his two official clerks, from Oct. 1, 2009, till Sept. 30, 2010, according to Wikipedia. Velamoor is listed as an associate with Perkins Coie, LLP’s office in Seattle, Washington.

    Robert F. Bauer, is a partner of Perkins Coie, LLP’s office in Washington, D.C.. His bio at the company identifies him as holding the Chair of the Political Law group at the firm; general counsel to Obama’s Campaign for America and general counsel to the Democratic National Committee.

    Mr. Bauer’s wife is none other than Anita Dunn, the Whitehouse Communication’s Director.

    Since Siddharth Velamoor could ostensibly loose his job or be blacklisted by Perkins Coie, if the case did not go Obama’s way; his presence in Judge Carter’s chambers clearly impugns the integrity of the court, and will be the cause of dismay among the general public.

    http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/

  66. rosettasister Says:

    Troy Says:
    October 17, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    Does this mean the fix is in?

    ***

    Is this the same Robert F. Bauer? (Robert J. Bauer)

    ***

    rosettasister Says:
    April 18, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    Obama’s Campaign paid $688,000 to attorney who threatened sanctions in eligibility lawsuit

    Posted on Saturday, April 18, 2009 12:15:08 PM by Polarik

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2232359/posts

    EXCERPT

    Obama’s Campaign paid $688,000 THIS YEAR to attorney who threatened sanctions in eligibility lawsuit

    In a report filed Wednesday, April 15, Obama for America, the group that collected over $850 million in campaign contributions for Obama, spent nearly $9.5 million in the first three months of this year, including included $688,000 in legal fees to the firm of Robert J Bauer.

    Bauer is the same attorney who send a letter to attorney John Hemenway threatening him with sanctions, including costs, expenses, and attorney’s fees, if he did not withdraw his appeal on Hollister v. Soetoro, No. 08-2254. citing the disgusting comments made by Judge Robertson that Obama’s eligibility had been “blogged, texted, twittered, and otherwise massaged by America’s vigilant citizenry.”

  67. sdee Says:

    rosettasister Says:
    Thanks guys and gals! You know I’m not really sure about what sex some of you are!
    *****************

    Being from New York “you guys” covers pretty much everyone. But last time I checked I was indeed a guy. 😀

    I’ll post into moderation on the WordPress stuff Rose- otherwise it will probably bore everyone to tears.

  68. rosettasister Says:

    LOL! Thanks, sdee!

  69. rosettasister Says:

    Holy cow! They’re still posting on this thread!

    Siddarth Velamoor

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2040486/posts?page=8514#8514

  70. rosettasister Says:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2040486/posts?page=8502#8502

    Let’s hope this Siddarth Velamoor does not represent a problem

    Posted on | October 17, 2009 | No Comments

    I have no reason to question Judge Carter but you should be aware that one of his law clerks, Siddharth Velamoor, was previously employed as an attorney by Perkins Cole, :LLP and may be on a leave of absence from them while he clerks for Judge Carter.

    http://www.lawyers.com/Washington/Seattle/Siddharth-Velamoor-33735949-a.html?

    Robert F. Bauer, a partner of Perkins Cole , is Chair of their Political Law Group and is General Counsel to Obama for America and General Counsel to the Democratic National Committee.

    http://www.perkinscoie.com/rbauer/

    I would watch this.

    Keep up the good work!

    Phil

    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/

    8,502 posted on Saturday, October 17, 2009 6:33:56 AM by STARWISE

  71. rosettasister Says:

    more on Siddarth Velamoor, Perkins Coie of Chicago and Seattle and Ropbert Bauer- Anita Dunn Obama connection

    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=4984

    robert bauer [perkins coie chicago] is obama personal lawyer and has funneled $1.7M approx to their firm from defending obama ineligibility. bauer’s wife is anita dunn, white house communication director who was seen on video recently expousing one of her hero’s, mao tse tung!

  72. rosettasister Says:

    Obama law tab up to $1.4 million

    ‘Grassroots army’ contributions being used to crush eligibility lawsuits?

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=106138

    As WND reported, Robert Bauer of Perkins Coie – top lawyer for Obama, Obama’s presidential campaign, the Democratic National Committee and Obama’s Organizing for America – is the same Washington, D.C., lawyer defending President Obama in lawsuits challenging his eligibility to be president.

  73. rosettasister Says:

    Life is a Circle

    http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball/2009/10/16/a-maoist-in-the-white-house/

    Thanks to Glenn Beck, the American public has now been introduced to yet another radical member of Obama’s inner circle: Anita Dunn, Interim White House Communications Director, former top advisor to Obama’s political campaign, and wife of Obama’s personal lawyer, Robert Bauer.

  74. rosettasister Says:

    New Jersey Governor: Christie 45%, Corzine 41%, Daggett 9%, Not Sure 5%

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2009/new_jersey/election_2009_new_jersey_governor

    Virginia Governor: McDonnell 50%, Deeds 43%, Not Sure 6%

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2009/virginia/election_2009_virginia_governor_election

    (It’s going to be really interesting to watch how well Rasmussen does predicting these two elections.)

    bbl

  75. sdee Says:

    Rose, check your gmail.

  76. jrinNC Says:

    Jordan’s king warns Israel on Jerusalem ‘red line’

    In talks with Spanish PM, King Abdullah urges international community ‘to act firmly against any Israeli measures aimed at changing identity of Holy City’

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3791091,00.html

  77. jrinNC Says:

    Obama Losing Steam? Poll Shows Clinton now More Popular

    (IsraelNN.com) U.S. President Barack Obama may be losing domestic support, according to a new poll. The president’s favorable rating has dropped and is now below that of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, his former political rival.

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/133886

  78. jrinNC Says:

    Spain to Back Obama on Israel-PA Talks

    Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, whose country will soon assume the European Union presidency, met Thursday with President Shimon Peres and discussed Israel-PA negotiations.

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/133866

    *********************************************************
    Note: “whose country will soon assume the EU presidency” ?????????

  79. jrinNC Says:

    United States to send ‘up to 45,000 more troops to Afghanistan’

    The US is expected to announce a significant surge of up to 45,000 extra troops for Afghanistan after Gordon Brown said that 500 more British troops would be sent to the country.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/6330163/United-States-to-send-up-to-45000-more-troops-to-Afghanistan.html

  80. jrinNC Says:

    Tax raid on banks planned by ministers
    Ministers are drawing up plans for a tax raid on Britain’s banks worth hundreds of millions of pounds, The Sunday Telegraph has learned.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/6360827/Tax-raid-on-banks-planned-by-ministers.html

    **********************************************************
    Just a matter of time before this happens here.

  81. rosettasister Says:

    Vice Premier and ex-IDF chief cancels U.K. visit over arrest fears

    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1118866.html

    Israeli Vice Prime Minister Moshe Ya’alon

    Ya’alon told Haaretz that in light of the legal advice he has received, he has refrained from visiting England in recent years so as not to play into the hands of groups fomenting what he termed anti-Israel propaganda.

    “This is a campaign whose goal is to delegitimize the state – first via the suits that have already been filed against senior officers over the Salah Shehadeh incident, and then in legal efforts to use the Goldstone report to harm those involved in Operation Cast Lead,” he said.

  82. jrinNC Says:

    Obama’s Deal Moving Gitmo Terrorists to U.S. Passes House Vote

    Nation’s Largest Grassroots, Pro-Troop Group Calls Out Politicians Who Approve Terrorist Transfers to U.S. Soil

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/15864

  83. Troy Says:

    Child’s Pacifier clip sets off airport metal detector. TSA agents nab infant and take out of site.
    by DefendUSx October 17, 2009 14:52

    As I sit and write this post, 24 hours after this event took place, my hands still shake… with rage and with terror.

    I woke up this morning to my husband’s alarm clock, sat straight up in bed and thought “Where’s Jackson?” with fear paralyzing me.

    My worst nightmare took place yesterday. Worse than events that have taken place and that I have survived in my short 28 years of living. Worse than my wildest of dreams could conjure.

    My son was taken from me.

    Taken.

    My son was taken from me by the TSA agents at Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson airport yesterday.

    He was taken away from me and OUT OF MY SIGHT because his pacifier clip went off when I carried him through the metal detector.

    According to the Transportation Security Administration website, “We will not ask you to do anything that will separate you from your child or children.”

    Bullshit TSA.

    You took my son. MY SON.

    Here’s what took place… minute by terrifying minute…

    I had Jackson in his stroller, his diaper bag, and a duffle bag which contained my mac book as I entered security. I placed all of these items on the conveyor belt to go through the metal detector. Jackson was in my arms, and in the midst of getting all of our gear on the conveyor belt, my mistake was neglecting to take off my son’s pacifier clip that hangs from his shirt, which is metal.

    The instant I walked through the metal detector with Jackson in my arms, we beeped. I knew exactly why.

    I told the TSA agent, who asked me to back up and walk through again, “It’s my son’s pacifier clip, can I put it on the conveyor belt?”

    “Ma’am turn around and come back please,” I was told.

    Of course Jackson’s clip went off again. Both Jackson and I were then escorted to a 6 ft tall plastic holding box because I was forced to wait for a female TSA agent to search me.

    At this point in time, all of my belongings were sitting at the opposite end of the conveyor belt, thereby backing up every other passengers belongings because I was not there to gather mine.

    A woman out of the kindness of her heart (and if you are out there somewhere reading this, THANK YOU) saw me just standing and waiting in my 6 ft plastic box and gathered my belongings for me. She waited with my stroller, my diaper bag, my duffle bag and my mac book. This woman motioned to me that everything (including my flip flops) was all together and then she left.

    She must be a mother.

    She understood.

    I was so grateful.

    4 female TSA agents stood at the end of 2 conveyor belts, gloves on their hands, none of them searching anyone, none of them doing anything but watching luggage pass through the conveyor belts.

    It was at this point in time that I realized my flight was leaving in less than 45 minutes. I had not even been searched yet. I began to panic.

    Through the 6 holes in the plastic box that contained Jackson and I, I began asking for help. I waved to all 4 female TSA agents, each of them looked at me and then looked away. Then I started speaking through the 6 holes, and said, “Can someone please search me? My flight leaves in less than 45 minutes.”

    Each of the 4 women answered me using the same exact phrase…

    “Ma’am you need to wait. I don’t care about your departure time.”

    Eventually one of the four female TSA agents opened the door and let Jackson and I out of our plastic containment box. We were escorted to a chair that was opposite from where my belongings were. I asked if I could bring my belongings over or take a seat closer to where they were. I was told no and to take my seat.

    At this point in time, my heart began to race, thinking we would miss our flight and I would be stuck in the Atlanta airport with Jackson for who knows how long until there was another flight to Baltimore.

    The female TSA agent stood in front of me while I sat with Jackson and she continued to watch luggage come through the conveyor belt.

    “Ma’am, can someone please just search me so we can be on our way? We are going to miss our flight,” I said.

    The female agent then called an older gentleman, also a TSA agent over. The male TSA agent stood in front of me and said “I’m going to have to pat down your son.”

    With Jackson still sitting in my lap (he was being so good despite all of this chaos) I said ok and continued to hold on to my son, expecting the male TSA agent to start touching Jackson.

    He then told me, “I’m going to have to pick him up to inspect him.”

    I rolled my eyes and sternly told him “It’s his pacifier clip that went off, can’t you just run that back through the belt and let us go. We are going to miss our flight.”

    The female TSA agent, who had been standing there the entire time said to me, “You need to adjust your attitude and do as you are told.”

    The male TSA agent repeated, “I’m going to have to pick him up to inspect him.”

    I handed him my son.

    I handed him my son and he walked away with my child.

    My eyes welled up with tears, I stood up from my chair and I asked the female TSA agent, “Where is he going? Where is he taking my child? Why is he leaving?”

    Jackson, while being whisked away looked at the male TSA agent awkwardly and repeated “no no no no.”

    I started crying.

    The female TSA agent did not answer me.

    Panic set in. My hands began to shake. My body was sweating. My breath was short and my heart was racing.

    They had taken my child and not told me.

    Jackson was out of my eye sight.

    I could not see my son.

    Now sobbing, I repeated my questions to the female TSA agent.

    She told me “Ma’am, we’re trying to be nice to you. We don’t know which one of you went off in the metal detector. Stay here so I can search you.”

    “But my son… where is my son?” I asked over and over again.

    The female TSA agent called a second female TSA agent over as she began to search me. Apparently the second female TSA agent could hear me protesting and asking for my son.

    “Ma’am you need to calm down or I’m going to have to involve the authorities,” she told me.

    Now I was pissed.

    Horrified. Terrified. Enraged.

    “You fucking get the authorities,” I told the female TSA agent while the other continued to wand me and forced me to unbutton my jeans because the button beeped when she went over my abdomen with her wand.

    “You get the goddamn authorities right the fuck now and tell them to GIVE ME MY SON,” I said.

    I began to black out. I knew I was having a full on panic attack. I feared passing out.

    I was told to take my seat again, after being searched, but I was not allowed to collect my belongings.

    My cell phone was within reach and I grabbed it without being seen by the TSA agents.

    I called my husband. I do not remember what I told him on the phone in terms of Jackson and what took place.

    I do recall asking him to calm me down because I could not breathe. As a father, he couldn’t. I imagine any father would do the same. Paul had questions, tons of questions. Questions that I was not capable of answering because I literally was losing my breath and on the verge of blacking out.

    I hung up and called my mother.

    “Jackson’s gone,” I remember telling her. I do not remember what she said in return, but she instantly could tell I was having a panic attack. She began breathing with me on the phone in an attempt to calm me down.

    She told me, “Nic, you’re going to have to stop crying. You need to be strong for Jackson. He’s going to be that much more scared if he sees mommy so upset. In through your nose… out through your mouth…” I think she may have counted, or had me count, I don’t know.

    Jackson was still gone.

    My guess is that all of this took place within a period of 10 minutes or less.

    It felt like hours… days even.

    My son was gone.

    Sobbing and seated, I watched both female TSA agents walk away from me and go back to monitoring luggage come through the conveyor belt.

    Finally the male TSA agent who took Jackson brought him back.

    Jackson was in my sight and immediately started yelling, “Mommy!”

    I was hysterical.

    Running to my son and grabbing him from the male TSA agent’s arms, I sobbed and yelled obscenities at every single TSA agent who stood guard at the end of the conveyor belts.

    One of them asked me if I wanted to speak to a supervisor.

    Through tears I told him (or her, I don’t remember) that I had a flight I was about to miss.

    With Jackson in my arms, I gathered our belongings, through him in the stroller and ran to the elevator that took us down to the tram to take us to our concourse where our plane waited.

    B-25.

    Sobbing as we traveled down the elevator, then during the tram ride, and up the next elevator to our concourse, I began running to our gate. I approached two female Delta agents at the desk of gate B-25.

    “How much time do I have before this flight leaves?” I asked, knowing I needed to get to a bathroom due to my panic attack.

    Looking at me concerned, I was told I had 5 minutes.

    I ran to the bathroom. I placed Jackson on the diaper changing station with his juice and then I hit the floor. I could not see. I had no peripheral vision.

    Channeling my mother, thinking of my phone call with her, I began to calm down.

    I had an emergency Xanax in my jeans pocket. I always carry an emergency Xanax in my pocket. The result of severe anxiety.

    I took the pill, but it did very little. I was so traumatized that it would’ve taken probably 4 Xanax to get my blood pressure back down to a normal level.

    Splashing my face with cold water, then grabbing Jackson, I ran back to gate B-25.

    Both female Delta agents looked at me and asked how they could help. I told them that my ticket had me at an aisle seat and if I could switch to a window (Jackson LOVES the window).

    They told me that if I didn’t mind sitting at the back of the plane, they could give me an entire row to myself.

    I started crying again. I told them a shortened version of what had just taken place and how grateful I was for their kindness.

    One of the female Delta agents walked me down the jetway, helping me with the stroller and getting it a gate-claim ticket.

    I hugged her. I thanked her. I got on the plane.

    I had my son and we were on the plane.

    I called my mother again, telling her briefly that I was on and to please call Paul. I didn’t remember that I had spoken to Paul earlier, and thought he did not know any of what had taken place.

    Mom said she would call Paul and tell him everything. She reminded me that I had my son and we were on our way home.

    Both Jackson and I slept during the flight. I held him so close that when he woke up, his head was drenched in sweat.

    Our nightmare ended once the plane landed in Baltimore. Jackson and I exited, walked out of the concourse and Jackson demanded to get out of the stroller.

    He ran to his daddy.

    We were home.

    **********

    I’m unsure how to end this post. I do not know what my story will lead to (if anything) but I needed to do more than file a complaint or write a letter. My hope is that this post of mine will be read by mothers and fathers, passed along to parents traveling with their children… most of all, my hope is that NO PARENT HAS THEIR CHILD TAKEN FROM THEM.

    TSA TOOK MY SON IN ATLANTA HARTSFIELD-JACKSON AIRPORT.

    THIS SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN TO ANY PARENT. EVER
    http://www.repubx.com/

  84. Troy Says:

    Protesters flood country: ‘Can you hear us now?’
    Thousands of Americans demand mainstream media listen to outcry
    ——————————————————————————–
    Posted: October 17, 2009
    6:45 pm Eastern

    By Drew Zahn
    © 2009 WorldNetDaily

    Protests at CNN headquarters in Atlanta, Ga.

    “Can you hear us now?” asked protesters around the country this weekend, challenging the mainstream media to drop a perceived news bias and give fair coverage to the growing movement against Obama administration policies.

    Grassroots organizers pulled together small groups of protesters in dozens of U.S. cities yesterday and today, including more than 100 who descended upon the offices of the Florida’s St. Petersburg Times this morning.

    “The press needs to be unbiased,” Joe Sekola, an organizer of a group called the North Pinellas 9.12 Project, told the Times. “You guys are the watchdogs.”

    The paper reports protesters accused the media in general of biased reporting on Big Government issues like health care reform and stimulus spending. They carried signs reading “State Run Media,” “Take the Left From Your Slant,” and “Journalism Malpractice – Just Report the Facts.”

    Proclaim a message of freedom the press can’t ignore! Visit the one and only “tea party store” now.

    Reports of the “Can You Hear Us Now?” protests are pouring in from around the country:

    In Phoenix, Ariz., a reported 40 gathered outside the Arizona Republic.

    On camera in front of a sizeable crowd in Portland, Ore., a protester estimated 100 were present during KGW-TV’s live news broadcast.

    Also in Oregon, protesters fanned out to voice displeasure at several newspaper and televisions stations.

    Dozens were reported gathering at WRAL-TV in Raleigh, N.C.

    WND’s reporter in New York City, the nation’s largest media market, found no demonstrations at the headquarters of NBC/MSNBC at Rockefeller Center, Fox News headquarters nearby on Sixth Avenue and ABC’s Good Morning America’s Times Square Studio, as had been announced.

    A Facebook page devoted to the events includes posts from a growing list of cities, including Baltimore, Md.; Nashville, Tenn.; Richmond, Va.; Houston, Texas; and West Palm Beach, Fla.
    The largest of the gathering reported thus far, however, seems to be in Georgia, where protesters contend an alleged 500-1,000 gathered before CNN’s headquarters in Atlanta.

    In Chicago, protesters gathered during the news hour last night at multiple locations, as can be seen in the following video:

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=113269

  85. Troy Says:

    3 million congressional ‘pink slips’ hit mark!
    ‘I want my constituents to know I hear them loud and clear’
    ——————————————————————————–
    Posted: October 16, 2009
    9:00 pm Eastern

    © 2009 WorldNetDaily

    WASHINGTON – As more than 3 million “pink slips” descend on the Capitol, members of Congress are commending the program warning of overspending and federal power grabs as a “great way to get the attention of members who have forgotten they will have to answer to the people next year.”

    WND launched a program three weeks ago allowing Americans to send individually addressed “pink slips” to every member of Congress for a price of just $29.95. So far, nearly 3.5 million have been ordered, with about half already on their way to the Capitol. Many of the “pink slips” just arrived this week, after being delayed for delivery by Capitol mailroom authorities because of the sheer volume. But they are now making their way to individual offices of every senator and representative.

    Send your pink slips to every member of the House and Senate now for just $29.95

    “The pink slips program is a great way to get the attention of members who have forgotten they will have to answer to the people next year on out-of-control spending and Washington power grabs,” said Rep. Michelle Bachmann, R-Minn., yesterday. “I support it! And I want my constituents to know I hear them loud and clear.”

    The program is to advise members of the U.S. House and Senate that they could be facing a “pink slip” as early as 2010 if they vote for more spending, socialized medicine, cap-and-trade legislation and a hate-crimes measure.

    Joseph Farah, editor and chief executive officer of WND, says the message should be clear enough for members of Congress.

    “Imagine the impact it can have on members of Congress – House and Senate – when they begin getting 1,000 or more ‘pink slips’ warning them away from more spending, more power grabs and more infringements on individual rights,” says Farah. “I believe this campaign, already tremendously successful beyond my wildest expectations, can have a real impact on politicians whose first priority is getting re-elected.”

    Piles of pink slips headed to Congress

    “I think this might be our last chance to give congressional Democrats something to think about before they destroy the country,” said Farah. “It might be our last, best hope of stopping the madness.”

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=113133

  86. Troy Says:

    Illegal immigrant linked to hundreds of bogus IDs
    By Roxana Hegeman, AP Writer

    10/16/09

    WICHITA, Kan. – A Mexican citizen whom prosecutors have linked to thousands of U.S. birth certificates produced for illegal immigrants faces a January sentencing in a separate identity theft case filed more than a decade after his activities first surfaced.

    Jorge Alvarez Rivera, also known as Daniel Salas, has became a poster child of sorts in presentations by Kansas officials about identity theft since 830 state birth certificates were found in his trunk after a 1998 traffic accident near Liberal.

    The Kansas Department of Health and Environment’s Office of Vital Statistics and the Kansas Social and Rehabilitative Services conducted record searches on those documents and estimated the state was paying out $200,000 per month, or about $2 million annually, to 55 illegal immigrant families whose names were on some of those 830 documents found in his trunk.

    Those benefits paid to illegal immigrants who were using his fraudulent documents included state payments for medical costs, aid to dependent children and food, said Donna Calabrese, director of the state’s Office of Vital Statistics.

    “I would like to see that this time it is taken seriously,” she said Friday. “It cost the taxpayers dearly.”

    Rivera was never prosecuted in the 1998 incident despite the fact that his trunk, which popped open during the accident, was later found to contain not just the Kansas documents but thousands of U.S. birth certificates, hundreds of Mexican documents and $10,000 in cash.

    “We kept seeing the repercussions – and that is just one case,” Calabrese said. “There are multiple operations where people are manufacturing false identities, including vital records.”

    But that traffic wreck has come back to haunt Rivera in a separate case working its way through federal court in Wichita. Rivera, 62, will be sentenced Jan. 11 after pleading guilty last month to making a false claim of U.S. citizenship and identity theft.

    Prosecutors say Rivera sold two sets of false identification, including a birth certificate and a Social Security card, to an undercover government informant. Rivera also indicated at the time that he had additional sets of false documents for sale.

    His defense attorney, David Freund, did not return phone and e-mail messages for comment.

    Jim Cross, spokesman for the U.S. attorney’s office in Kansas, confirmed no charges were filed for the 1998 incident and said he did not know why there was no prosecution back then.

    “We were seeing just one case, but back in 1998 some of the prosecutors and judges weren’t really tuned in to how serious this kind of fraudulent activity was,” Calabrese said.

    Calabrese said she got a call this past summer from Assistant U.S. Attorney Matt Treaster asking what she knew about Rivera because he had been arrested again, and she gave him the information she had compiled.

    If U.S. District Judge J. Thomas Marten accepts the plea deal his defense attorney struck with prosecutors, Rivera would be sent to federal prison for 30 months in January.

    Rivera has remained jailed since a magistrate judge found him to be a flight risk, citing in part the false documents found in the 1998 accident. U.S. Magistrate Judge Donald Bostwick also noted that Rivera – who claimed to be netting only $150 in monthly income – had $16,000 in savings and a house worth $50,000 that he owned free and clear.

    Benefits to the illegal immigrants whose names were found on documents in Rivera’s trunk have since been cut off, and the state has taken steps requiring proof of citizenship and confirmation of birth certificates in an effort to ensure those receiving state benefits are entitled to them, Calabrese said.

    http://countusout.wordpress.com/

  87. Fernley Girl Says:

    Well, Rose, I hardly know what to say. I always feel like I am among friends here even though I don’t comment regularly. I will be sad to see you go, but I know all too well that life often pulls us in unexpected directions. Troy & sdee, I hope you can move into Rose’s “house” and keep it filled with friends.

    I guess we need to have a virtual Bon Voyage party for Rose before she leaves. A date, a time and a toast.

  88. igaveup Says:

    wow, i check in here every day and have learned a lot from everyone. if this gang starts up a new forum, i’d sure like to know.

    ditto a toast to rose

    i’m going to post the next post with my working email address so hopefully if the gang starts up again…………..?

  89. igaveup Says:

    rose

    i’m just posting this with my working email.

  90. Tenacity Says:

    Okay sports fans, its official…one of Rose’s Gang is a delegate to the Continental Congress.

  91. Tenacity Says:

    Troy Says:
    October 18, 2009 at 12:01 am

    © 2009 WorldNetDaily

    WASHINGTON – As more than 3 million “pink slips” descend on the Capitol, members of Congress are commending the program warning of overspending and federal power grabs as a “great way to get the attention of members who have forgotten they will have to answer to the people next year.”
    ****************************************
    Wrong…They must answer to the people now! They work for us and We The People demand that our petitions be heard per the accountability clause (last ten words of the 1st Amendment). We The People do not have to wait for an election to hold elected officials accountable…that’s bunk. Its time the employees recognize their station and provide redress of grievances upon demand of the employer. We have an employment agreement and its time to hold the employees to that agreement.

  92. Tenacity Says:

    And let’s be clear…THIS IS NOT A DEMOCRACY! It is a democratic republic. Democracy is a term that has been deified by the communists.

  93. sdee Says:

    Tenacity Says:
    October 18, 2009 at 12:41 am

    Okay sports fans, its official…one of Rose’s Gang is a delegate to the Continental Congress.
    ****************

    WOOHOO !

  94. patriotamy Says:

    I guess we need to have a virtual Bon Voyage party for Rose before she leaves. A date, a time and a toast.
    ********************************
    Oh yeah, I’m “down with that” as the grandkids would say!!

  95. patriotamy Says:

    Tenacity Says:
    October 18, 2009 at 12:41 am

    Okay sports fans, its official…one of Rose’s Gang is a delegate to the Continental Congress.
    ***************************
    We knew it all along, Ten. Congrats!!!!

  96. jrinNC Says:

    Way to go Ten – I knew you would make it. Very proud of you.

  97. cynkading Says:

    Well, I have been away for a few days and am trying to get caught up. I am so sad. ( tear) Rose, I do understand about your decision, but I have to say I feel a little down. I feel like I am losing a very good friend or friends. I have grown so much in my knowledge of how the political world revolves and don’t pretend to understand it even now but with the help of many, I can interpret things better. Thanks so much for giving me a place to hang.

  98. cynkading Says:

    A big hug to Tenacity and hearty congratulations!!!!

  99. patriotamy Says:

    Interesting read with screen shots of news articles.

    http://frontpage.americandaughter.com/?p=2607

  100. sdee Says:

    Sheriff Joe heaves a big FU to BO

    “”An Arizona sheriff known for cracking down on undocumented migrants is conducting an immigration and crime sweep around Phoenix, less than a day after federal authorities curbed his powers to make immigration arrests.””

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091017/us_nm/us_usa_immigration_sheriff

  101. Troy Says:

    B ?

  102. Troy Says:

    Way to go, Terry!!!

  103. Troy Says:

    sdee, I sent you an email…Now you have my addy.

  104. Fernley Girl Says:

    Congratulations Ten! I know you are ready to lead us in the right direction.

    Rose, please keep the email addy attached to this comment and give it to Troy and sdee. I am willing to help maintain the site.

  105. sdee Says:

    No honor among thieves…….

    The president of one of America’s largest government labor unions,(AFSCME), Gerry McEntee, has emerged as a major obstacle to the White House’s efforts to maintain a unified front in the health care debate.

    McEntee’s stand also reflects the messy internal politics of the labor movement.

    His arch-rival in organizing public sector workers, Service Employees International Union (SEIU) President Andrew Stern, has aligned himself closely with the White House, pushing McEntee, an associate said, to define himself as the loyal opposition.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/28397.html

  106. patriotamy Says:

    I guess the obots haven’t scrubbed every little reference. Check out this little blurb. Posted Oct 9, 2008.

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=95550177&ft=1&f=1004

  107. Troy Says:

    His arch-rival in organizing public sector workers, Service Employees International Union (SEIU) President Andrew Stern, has aligned himself closely with the White House, pushing McEntee, an associate said, to define himself as the loyal opposition.
    ********************************************************
    This one is a “no brainer”….He is leveraging for some PAYOLA….That is the way these union thugs operate…It’s the Chicahole way!!!

    Hey Barry, float us some greenbacks and we’ll help ya out!!!

  108. cynkading Says:

    Troy, can you get my email addy from Rose? Please include me. I would love to stay in touch with the others as well K?

  109. Katie Says:

    Fernley Girl Says:
    October 18, 2009 at 12:24 am

    …I guess we need to have a virtual Bon Voyage party for Rose before she leaves. A date, a time and a toast.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    What an absolutely perfectly lovely idea! We can hold the first ever online Bon Voyage party!!!

  110. Katie Says:

    Tenacity- CONGRATULATIONS and I’m so proud to be able to walk along side you on this journey!

    America is in good hands with the patriots of the Continental Congress, and as I told you in January, your grandson is going to be reading about his grandpa in the history books!

  111. patriotamy Says:

    Party hats and streamers for everyone !!! 😀

  112. Katie Says:

    I just got home after participating in an “Operation – Can You Hear Us Now?” demonstration.

    We marched in front of the local NBC, to the local FOX, and ended at the local ABC. I’m estimating around 125 people. Lots of honking and waving from the passing drivers (a few obots who flipped us off – funny, they were always driving run-down clunkers). So far, no local coverage. SNORT! Just proves the point.

    Lots of police cars sitting around off to the side, and even some thumbs up from sheriff’s deputies. I never felt threatened by them, rather think they were there to make sure no one messed with us.

    Some of the best signs I saw:

    – Media Bias = POOP (with the O’s being the One’s symbol)
    – Start covering Obama like you cover the Bubble Boy!
    – Report the news, not Michelle’s shoes.

    I’m glad I did it and I’d do it again!!!

  113. patriotamy Says:

    Good for you Katie!!

  114. Troy Says:

    Troy, can you get my email addy from Rose? Please include me. I would love to stay in touch with the others as well K?
    *********************************************************
    Everything is going to be just fine, folks….We’ll see to it!!!….This blog will continue.

  115. ryansgrammy Says:

    Rose — I just started catching up after being away and I read your post. Wow! I respect your decision but Wow. What will we do without you Rose. You’ve become a daily part of my life for so many months and I will miss the blog and the people here (not to mention all of the great information). You’ve put so much of yoursefl into the blog and I often wondered how much of your life was consumed by all of the work on the great threads you have provided us. Thanks for all of the music too! Most of all Rose, thanks for providing a place for us to vent and share our frustrations (not to mention to learn and grow). God Bless You!

  116. ryansgrammy Says:

    Congratulations Ten — way to go!!!!!!! I need to check to see who was selected for VA and see if the ones my hubby and I selected were chosen.

  117. ryansgrammy Says:

    Troy — I would like to be included too. TENJOOBERRYMUDS! 🙂

  118. Troy Says:

    TENJOOBERRYMUDS! 🙂
    ********************
    JOOWAILKUM! 😉

  119. Troy Says:

    I have prepared a post to leave at Leo’s blog…It is in regards to something that just came to me…It’s one of those things that is so simple and is as plain as the nose on your face, but may be difficult to explain in a way that makes it easy to understand….I want to post it here first and let y’all look it over to see if everyone here gets the jist of it..OK?

    Here we go:
    ~~~~~~~~
    Leo, what I have to share here is either VERY important or I’m grasping at straws…..I feel it is the former and not the latter.

    We all know that Obama admitted on his “Fight The Smears” web site that his citizenship was governed by the BNA of 1948….It’s right there on his site in plain English….There is something else on his site written in plain English and it is this:
    http://www.fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate.html
    “The truth is, Barack Obama was born in the state of Hawaii in 1961, a NATIVE CITIZEN of the United States of America. ”
    (emphasis added)

    That is an outright LIE and constitutes FRAUD and that is not my opinion, but is instead the opinion of the SCOTUS in Minor v. Happersett.

    That is correct….The SCOTUS has indeed ruled that Obama is NEITHER a NATIVE nor a NATURAL-BORN citizen.

    Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1874): In this case decided after the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment, the Court stated (pp. 167–68):

    “The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of PARENTS who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were NATIVES, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as CITIZENS children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to THIS CLASS there have been DOUBTS, but NEVER AS TO THE FIRST. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is sufficient for everything we have now to consider that all children born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction are themselves CITIZENS.”
    (emphasis added)

    The SCOTUS, in the above opinion said, “The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that.”

    It seems to me that the SCOTUS, in their M v. H opinion, has in itself provided us with; “Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that.”

    M v. H has become that “resort” and it clearly states that Obama is NOT a NATIVE or natural-born citizen…It clearly states that both parents of the child must be citizens.

    I know that you already know all of this, but here is the thing:

    There is nothing better in court than to have as evidence someone’s own words to use against them, whether it be via audio, video or printed text….We have Obama’s own web site stating that he is “a native citizen of the United States of America.”

    According to M v. H, that is a false and fraudulent statement.
    Can that statement be challenged?

    It is my contention that the language used by the SCOTUS Justice who wrote the opinion in M v. H has furnished us with the “resort” needed outside of the Constitution….M v. H is that resort….The source that they used, for native and NBC clarification, was obviously good enough for them to include in their opinion, so why not for us?….That opinion requires citizen parentS for NBC, or as Obama claims, “native” citizenship status.

    Obama says Native
    SCOTUS says no.

    Dr. Fukino’s NBC proclamation is in the process of needing to be clarified and eventually challenged, hopefully.

    Is there any way, short of quo warranto, to challenge Obama’s “native” statement?….Not necessarily challenging his eligibility to hold office, but a challenge of the statement itself….The statement is after all, according to M v. H, fraudulent and was used to help secure votes that may have otherwise been cast against him.

  120. joldy Says:

    Rollercoaster of emotions in catching up here…
    Wow!
    Rose, A BIG HUGE THANK YOU for this wonderful haven you created here.
    You sure will be missed!

    Troy said:
    Everything is going to be just fine, folks….We’ll see to it!!!….This blog will continue.
    🙂 your a good guy! Thanks to you an the others who offered to help and thank you Rose for letting the blog continue. You people ROCK!!!!

    Tenacity, CONGRATULATIONS!!!

  121. Tenacity Says:

    Thanks Gang! I owe a debt of gratitude to Katie. First for encouraging me, then for nominating me and then for volunteering to work the election and freezing her butt off on election day. Believe me, the support of Katie and her hubby made a big difference to me.

  122. Troy Says:

    I have sent a new email to sdee and Rose.

  123. Troy Says:

    the support of Katie and her hubby made a big difference to me.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Way to go, Katie!!! 😀

  124. sdee Says:

    Troy, I’ve read that MvH paragraph before in Leo’s posts but I never considered that it was implying itself to be other “resort” needed to define natural-born citizen Is that where you are going? If so yeah, I’d like to hear what Leo has to say. Don’t go by me however – I miss LOTS over on Leo’s and often have to read things over and over 🙂

    I am though, not sure I understand how you got to: “”That opinion requires citizen parentS for NBC, or as Obama claims, “native” citizenship status.””

    Obama’s claim is that he was born a “Native Citizen” . The MvH paragraph mentions “Natives”, “Citizen”, and “natural-born citizen”. It does not however mention “Native Citizen” . So I guess
    1) I just do not see in the MvH paragraph where it says both parents are needed for being a native citizen, or,
    2) I do not see in Obama’s statement that he is equating NBC with being a Native Citizen. I just figured he was trying to obfuscate.

    I am not debating it- I just do not understand.

  125. Troy Says:

    It does not however mention “Native Citizen”
    sure it does…read it again, and yes you are correct that the point I was making is that M v. H, itself, is now the “resort” needed outside of the constitution and M v. H clearly states that native / NBC require two citizen parents (plural)

    Obama stated that he is a native citizen.

    Read again carefully.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    “The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of PARENTS who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were NATIVES, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as CITIZENS children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to THIS CLASS there have been DOUBTS, but NEVER AS TO THE FIRST. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is sufficient for everything we have now to consider that all children born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction are themselves CITIZENS.”
    (emphasis added)

  126. Troy Says:

    2) I do not see in Obama’s statement that he is equating NBC with being a Native Citizen. I just figured he was trying to obfuscate.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    He wasn’t necessarily….He claims to be a native citizen….It is the SCOTUS in M v. H that lump “native” and “natural-born” citizen together to mean the same exact thing…M v. H says that native is NBC.

  127. Troy Says:

    “These were NATIVES,” from M v. H = Native citizens

  128. sdee Says:

    OK that helps Troy. I guess would have seen the point easier if the MvH text had said

    “These were native citizens, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”

    instead of

    “These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”

  129. sdee Says:

    gnite gang – its been a milestone day at Rose’s

  130. Tenacity Says:

    Judi McLeod at CFP posted this vid today. Forgive me for ever slighting Ronald Reagan.

  131. Bones Says:

    Troy, as I understand and have understood it, a “native citizen” simply means a citizen by birth on the soil. Obama acquired citizenship by birth in the United States. Had he been born outside the US, he would not have acquired citizenship by birth, nor would he have acquired citizenship by descent, due to the following:

    “Since 1934, children of a marriage between a woman having U.S. citizenship and an alien can acquire American citizenship by descent (derivative citizenship) on two conditions: (1) the woman must have lived in the United States before the birth of the child for a minimum of ten years, five of which must have been after she had reached the age of fourteen; (2) the child must establish this claim by residing in the United States for a minimum of two years between the ages of fourteen and twenty-eight, unless the alien parent was naturalized in the United States before the child reached eighteen and the child had established a permanent residence in the United States before that age.

    An alien woman married to a U.S. citizen and lawfully admitted to permanent residence in the United States may be naturalized after three years residence, provided she resided in the country for half that time. The requirements of prior residence and physical presence can be waived when an alien woman is married to an American citizen who is engaged in missionary work abroad or who is stationed abroad by the U.S. government, an international organization with U.S. membership, an American research institution, or an American business. All the provisions of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 apply equally to men and women. U.S. citizenship may be acquired by birth in the country, by descent from an American citizen, or by naturalization.”

    (taken from Dictionary of American History | 2003 | Evans, Alona E.; Tetrault, Lisa | Copyright 2003 Gale, Cengage Learning. All rights reserved. http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G2-3401804575.html)

    Since Obama cannot claim citizenship by descent, it seems fairly obvious that he cannot claim to be a natural born citizen.

    Now we come to:

    “The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. ”

    (from Emer Vattel (English language version, “Law of Nations” (1797) Book I, c.19, § 212 http://www.constitution.org/vattel/vattel.htm http://home.earthlink.net/~dybel/Documents/LawOfNations,Vattel.htm#I-%C2%A7212 )

    Since Obama cannot claim citizenship by descent, he cannot claim natural born citizen status. QED.

  132. Bones Says:

    Oops, in moderation, too many links. Here it is again:

    Troy, as I understand and have understood it, a “native citizen” simply means a citizen by birth on the soil. Obama acquired citizenship by birth in the United States. Had he been born outside the US, he would not have acquired citizenship by birth, nor would he have acquired citizenship by descent, due to the following:

    “Since 1934, children of a marriage between a woman having U.S. citizenship and an alien can acquire American citizenship by descent (derivative citizenship) on two conditions: (1) the woman must have lived in the United States before the birth of the child for a minimum of ten years, five of which must have been after she had reached the age of fourteen; (2) the child must establish this claim by residing in the United States for a minimum of two years between the ages of fourteen and twenty-eight, unless the alien parent was naturalized in the United States before the child reached eighteen and the child had established a permanent residence in the United States before that age.

    An alien woman married to a U.S. citizen and lawfully admitted to permanent residence in the United States may be naturalized after three years residence, provided she resided in the country for half that time. The requirements of prior residence and physical presence can be waived when an alien woman is married to an American citizen who is engaged in missionary work abroad or who is stationed abroad by the U.S. government, an international organization with U.S. membership, an American research institution, or an American business. All the provisions of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 apply equally to men and women. U.S. citizenship may be acquired by birth in the country, by descent from an American citizen, or by naturalization.”

    (taken from Dictionary of American History | 2003 | Evans, Alona E.; Tetrault, Lisa | Copyright 2003 Gale, Cengage Learning. All rights reserved. http:
    //www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G2-3401804575.html)

    Since Obama cannot claim citizenship by descent, it seems fairly obvious that he cannot claim to be a natural born citizen.

    Now we come to:

    “The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. ”

    (from Emer Vattel (English language version, “Law of Nations” (1797) Book I, c.19, § 212 http:
    //www.constitution.org/vattel/vattel.htm http://home.earthlink.net/~dybel/Documents/LawOfNations,Vattel.htm#I-%C2%A7212 )

    Since Obama cannot claim citizenship by descent, he cannot claim natural born citizen status. QED.

  133. NeConservative Says:

    Wow Rose, I miss a few days and you abandon us…. ok, just kidding!!! Whatever’s going on with you, I wish you well, and THANK YOU for bringing us all together. God Bless You, and I hope we will still hear from you often.

  134. Troy Says:

    R. Regan is rolling over in his grave right now….Obama is a sideshow freak compared to Regan.

  135. Bones Says:

    I’m not betting on one being able to rely on the use of “native” in MvH to corner Obama on his “native citizen” statement, considering the common usage of “native citizen” to mean a citizen by birth on the soil (jus solis).

  136. Troy Says:

    Bones, what you are listing is from the 14th Amendment, right?

    Minor v. Happersett was ruled on AFTER the ratification of the 14th Amd.

    M v. H states, after the 14th Amd., that a “native” born citizen and a “natural” born citizen are one and the same.

    “At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of PARENTS who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”

  137. American Daughter Says:

    Rosettasister, I feel so sad that you are leaving us. I just wanted you to know. I understand about needing time for yourself, of course, but you have become embedded in a lot of hearts and minds here.

  138. Bones Says:

    There is another case in which natural born citizen status is permitted under the rubric of being both native born (of the soil) and a citizen by descent, even if the citizen by descent portion was met via one citizen parent with residency requirements.

    I need to find that quote.

    Obama is not a citizen by descent, but the quote drives home how natural born citizen is and has been understood… by both jurisdiction and descent. I need to find it…

  139. Bones Says:

    I don’t know, Troy. It’s tricky… considering that only the word “native” was used, and that other cases use “native” differently… just not sure. Let’s see what Leo has to say.

  140. Troy Says:

    I need to find it…
    ~~~~~~~~~~~
    Yes, please do.

  141. Troy Says:

    sdee Says:

    October 18, 2009 at 4:39 am
    OK that helps Troy. I guess would have seen the point easier if the MvH text had said

    “These were native citizens, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”

    instead of

    “These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”
    *********************************************************
    Bones, refer to the above here….From a writing stand point, there was no need for them to use the word “citizen” twice in that short sentence.
    They were able to use it once and convey the meaning….They certainly were not insinuating “natives” to mean Native Americans/Indians.

    They clearly say that a person born of PARENTS and on the soil are natives or natural-born citizens…They equate the two to mean the exact same thing….I can’t see any other possible way to interpret this.

  142. Tenacity Says:

    Okay, I just finally caught up. Rose…your resignation has been declined.

    A sabbatical may be approved, but moving on? Where are you going to find the love you find here? We’ve gotten past second base together…survived the friction…lost the urge to compete with one another…your victories are ours and your losses ours and vice-versa.

    Look, I have a blog and never have enough time to maintain it. I understand that hosting a blog can be a ball and chain, but this place, this small group, this family is not just another blog. You created a “ritual moment” here…a candlelight dinner. You’ve accepted us for who we are and we you. I trust you. Did you hear me?…I don’t say this lightly…I TRUST YOU and I care about you. I care about the whole Gang here. You provided the forgiving atmosphere for this to happen…not just your music or eclectic-artistic flare. You are strong in a vunerable way. Do you know how rare that is? You are kind yet spirited. You are flawed and loved for it. Your beauty exudes in your direct but tolerant treatment of others. No…your resignation is denied. You can go do what you need to do, but must remain a part of Rose’s Gang. We (yes, there is a mouse in my pocket) are not willing to let you go, at least not for too long.

    Okay, now that that is settled 😕 Flying support while Rose recharges…The book WordPress For Dummies is invaluable. I’m spread so thin right now that it would be insane for me to volunteer more than an occasional consultation, but I will help as much as I can. I do own a dedicated server and have wordpress installed on it already. If you guys can work it out to stay the course while Rose does her thang, then great. Let me know what you need from me.

    Rose, you have my email and know where to find me. I really do care what is going on. These are stressful times and being isolated is painful. So don’t let yourself be isolated. You mean too much to me and obviously many others.

  143. jrinNC Says:

    Troy – again if you need any help please feel free to call on me as well. In addition to being a contracting officer, I was a systems administrator for a major system for 17 years. WordPress is not that hard even starting from scratch. WordPress has made it easy thru the visual aspect instead of html. If you are just going to take over the blog, the hard part is really over thanks to Rose. And you can designate others to add content when you are not able or even set up so that the admin duties can be shared by a few others. Either way, I am available if needed. Regardless, I am grateful that you have taken this upon yourself. I would be lost, as I am sure others here feel the same, without this small haven to come to.

  144. jrinNC Says:

    Judge Halts Flu Vaccine Mandate For Health Workers
    New York Health Care Employees Won’t Be Forced To Get H1N1 Vaccine…For Now

    http://wcbstv.com/breakingnewsalerts/mandatory.h1n1.vaccine.2.1252672.html

  145. jrinNC Says:

    Thatcher adviser: Copenhagen goal is 1-world government
    ‘Global warming’ to be used as ‘pretext’ for ‘change’

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=113219

  146. jrinNC Says:

  147. rosettasister Says:

    These three posts were in moderation. Apologies all around.

    Fernley Girl Says:
    October 18, 2009 at 1:43 am

    Bones Says:
    October 18, 2009 at 4:56 am

    American Daughter Says:
    October 18, 2009 at 5:13 am

  148. Katie Says:

    Tenacity Says:
    October 18, 2009 at 4:05 am

    Thanks Gang! I owe a debt of gratitude to Katie. First for encouraging me, then for nominating me and then for volunteering to work the election and freezing her butt off on election day. Believe me, the support of Katie and her hubby made a big difference to me.
    *********************
    The gratitude is all mine. Few Americans are willing to sacrifice as much as Tenacity for the survival and prosperity of our country. I had the easy part (and sadly the frigid temps left more butt than I would like, but that’s another story 😉 )

    Truly, the honor is all mine and I am humbled to share in the process.

  149. Katie Says:

    Troy – wish I could impart some wisdom on your theory, but seriously, I glaze over with legalese.

    My mind works much more simply. The Constitution says NATURAL BORN CITIZEN and obama claims NATIVE citizen.

    They ain’t the same thing.

    End of story. No court cases, no lawyers needed. I don’t know why this is so difficult for some people to understand.

  150. Katie Says:

    Tenacity Says:
    October 18, 2009 at 6:26 am

    Okay, I just finally caught up. Rose…your resignation has been declined.
    ******************

    I’ll be the mouse in your pocket. Rose? DITTO what Tenacity wrote!!

  151. rosettasister Says:

    Fernley Girl Says:
    October 18, 2009 at 1:43 am

    Congratulations Ten! I know you are ready to lead us in the right direction.

    Rose, please keep the email addy attached to this comment and give it to Troy and sdee. I am willing to help maintain the site.

    ***

    Okay, F.G.

    So congratulations are in order for Tenacity.

    Same here, may your dreams come true and may you always walk in the Light of the Lord.

    Rose

  152. rosettasister Says:

    American Daughter Says:
    October 18, 2009 at 5:13 am

    Rosettasister, I feel so sad that you are leaving us. I just wanted you to know. I understand about needing time for yourself, of course, but you have become embedded in a lot of hearts and minds here.

    ***

    Your words are much appreciated, Daughter.

    As are all of the kind words from all of the kind people ’round here.

    Rose

  153. Troy Says:

    Katie Says:

    October 18, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    My mind works much more simply. The Constitution says NATURAL BORN CITIZEN and obama claims NATIVE citizen.

    They ain’t the same thing.

    End of story. No court cases, no lawyers needed. I don’t know why this is so difficult for some people to understand.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    That is what I always thought too, but the SCOTUS ruling in Minor v. Happersett states that they are one and the same.

    Which ever it is, Obama does NOT meet the requirements of “native” or “natural-born” citizen according to their ruling.

    Here is the relevent part of the ruling:

    “At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of PARENTS who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”

  154. rosettasister Says:

    7:50 AM Pacific

    Good morning, America! How are you?!

    I hope it’s sunny where you are. If not, I hope you have a sunny disposition.

  155. rosettasister Says:

    Is The Fix In? Barnett v. Obama

    http://romanticpoet.wordpress.com/2009/10/18/is-the-fix-in-barnett-v-obama/

  156. rosettasister Says:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2040486/posts?page=8517#8517

    To: STARWISE

    Does anyone know when he started to clerk for Carter? This is going to be a sensitive issue, but given the stakes of the case itself and the appearance of a possible conflict of interest (at the very least) isn’t Velamoor’s recusal appropriate?

    8,517 posted on Saturday, October 17, 2009 10:21:29 PM by thouworm

    (I am no legal expert, but to recuse oneself, is that something a clerk would even do, or would that be reserved to a judge?)

  157. rosettasister Says:

    Sens. Thune, Conrad, Specter On Health Care, Afghanistan

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/10/18/sens_thune_conrad_specter_on_health_care_afghanistan.html

  158. rosettasister Says:

    “FOX News Sunday” Panel On Afghanistan Elections

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/10/18/fox_news_sunday_panel_on_afghanistan_elections.html

  159. Bones Says:

    I suspect Tenacity’s pockets are overflowing with mice.

  160. rosettasister Says:

    Sheriff Joe

    http://www.mcso.org/

    http://twitter.com/realsheriffjoe

    Al Sharpton was in town yesterday and warned in front of a public forum warned me to “not cross the line”

    Arpaio, Sharpton clash over crime sweep

    http://www.ktar.com/index.php?nid=6&sid=1220812

    The Homeland Security Department said Friday it has completed agreements with 55 state and local law enforcement agencies covering immigration policies. Those included one which prevents Arpaio from enforcing federal immigration laws on the streets, but still allows him to question inmates of his jails about their immigration status.

    Arpaio vowed the change will not curtail his fight against illegal immigration. He did not reveal details of Friday’s sweep, but was vocal about his intentions.

    “I don’t have a problem,” he said. “I’m still going to arrest illegals under state laws and when we come across them, on traffic (violations) or anything else… We will continue doing crime suppression. It will not stop.”

    (Sheriff Joe’s methods may be controversial, but they’re all we’ve got right now to keep Maricopa County from becoming more like the lawlessness one finds south of the border. Are we throwing the baby out with the bathwater? Yes. But this is all we’ve got until Congress passes comprehensive immigration reform.)

    Carpetbagger Sharpton Go Home!

  161. Bones Says:

    Read the latest at http://postnemail.wordpress.com on natural born citizen.

  162. rosettasister Says:

    Bono Go Home!

    The world wants to believe in America again.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/18/opinion/18bono.html?pagewanted=all

    (Let’s see, shall I listen to Tony Blair or Bono?)

  163. rosettasister Says:

    Small Group Now Leads Closed Negotiations on Health-Care Bill

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/17/AR2009101701810.html?hpid=topnews

    Three senators are working on the bill behind closed doors.

    Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) sits at the head of a wooden table at his office as he and Sens. Christopher J. Dodd (D-Conn.) and Max Baucus (D-Mont.) work to merge two competing versions of health-care legislation into one bill.

    The three men will be joined by top aides as well as by members of President Obama’s health-care team, led by White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel.

    The sessions started on Wednesday and could be completed this week.

    The group will make such key decisions as whether to include a government-run insurance plan designed to compete with private insurance companies.

  164. rosettasister Says:

    Lawmakers Wrestle With Health Reform Details, Axelrod Says ‘We Can’t Fail Now’

    http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Daily-Reports/2009/October/18/sunday-health-reform-congress.aspx

    San Francisco Chronicle:

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2009/10/18/MN7N1A6LDM.DTL

    “Obscured by the war in Congress over a government-run health insurance option are several behind-the-scenes battles that could do more to transform the U.S. health care system.

    Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., wants to open up to everyone the health care ‘exchanges’ that most bills limit to small businesses or individuals without employer-based plans. …

    (I like the sound of this, but how would this work? Let’s say I currently have an employer-based plan. Right now my employer is paying the lion’s share of my premiums. Would it be in my employer’s best interest to increase my wages instead so I could then go shopping for my own private plan? I just don’t see how this would work.)

    Rep. Ron Kind, D-Wis., wants to get rid of the Medicare fee-for-service model that pays doctors and hospitals by volume of services rather than care aimed to keep patients healthy. …

    These and similar efforts at the fringes of the debate take aim at the most vexing part of the $2.6 trillion U.S. health system:

    soaring costs, which are bankrupting individuals, businesses and government, devouring wages and swelling the ranks of the uninsured.

    No bills in Congress make cost control a central feature”

  165. rosettasister Says:

    Know Your Enemy

    Street fighting in Taliban bases

    Taliban militants are engaged in street fighting with Pakistani soldiers as the army tries to break the militants’ grip on South Waziristan.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8313317.stm

    Our correspondent says he has been told that soldiers and militants are clashing on the streets of the town.

    Soldiers are also reported to have taken ground around Spinkai Raghzai.

    Troops established a checkpoint en route to Kotkai, the home town of Pakistani Taliban chief Hakimullah Mehsud, AFP reported.

    But our correspondent says no clear picture has emerged about who has the upper hand at the moment.

  166. ryansgrammy Says:

    On the NBC issue found this article written by Dianna Cotter–

    http://www.examiner.com/x-7715-Portland-Civil-Rights-Examiner~y2009m10d15-Obamas-Achiles-heel–Natural-Born-Citizenship

  167. ryansgrammy Says:

    Rose — Not sure if this is the Linda Starr from Berg or the other one (if there is another one) but there are lots of goodies here on HCR.

    http://lgstarr.blogspot.com/

  168. ryansgrammy Says:

    rosettasister Says:

    October 18, 2009 at 2:58 pm
    Is The Fix In? Barnett v. Obama
    ************
    I smell a rat!

  169. joldy Says:

    Wednesday, —5th November, 2008

    The Kenyan National Assembly, Official Report

    from the official minutes…

    “Dr. Khalwale: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. You have heard none other than the Leader of Government Business acknowledge that because of Obama’s win in the United States of America (USA), the House is crippled. Could we allow him to move a Motion for Adjournment so we could also continue the celebrations of having a Kenyan ruling the USA? I humbly request.”

    (Applause)

  170. jrinNC Says:

    First part is on flu vaccine – rest on Coppenhagen agreement

  171. jrinNC Says:

    Without A Shot Being Fired, A Dictator Has Taken Over the United States

    How could so many millions of U. S. citizens just gently cede their heritage and birthright so easily

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/15900

  172. jrinNC Says:

    Canadian Dollar Climbs Toward Parity as Stocks, Crude Oil Rally

    The Canadian dollar rallied for a third straight week, touching a 14-month high and moving closer to parity with its U.S. counterpart as signs of economic recovery pushed commodities and stocks higher.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aU5OBX1AsQgA

  173. jrinNC Says:

    FDIC bank fund in the red until 2012

    Even as regulators try to replenish deposit insurance fund, it will be over two years before it boasts a positive balance, warns agency chief.

    http://money.cnn.com/2009/10/14/news/companies/fdic_deposit_fund/?postversion=2009101415

  174. jrinNC Says:

    Russia’s Leaders See China as Template for Ruling

    Nearly two decades after the collapse of the Communist Party, Russia’s rulers have hit upon a model for future success: the Communist Party. Or at least, the one that reigns next door.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/18/world/europe/18russia.html?_r=1

  175. jrinNC Says:

    Obama Threatens Insurers’ Anti-Trust Exemption

    President Obama mounted a frontal assault on the insurance industry on Saturday, accusing it of using “deceptive and dishonest ads” to derail his health care legislation and threatening to strip the industry of its longstanding exemption from federal antitrust laws.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/18/us/politics/18address.html?ref=us

  176. jrinNC Says:

    Obama Team Continues Effort to Isolate Fox News

    Senior Obama administration officials took to the airwaves Sunday to accuse Fox News of pushing a particular point of view and not being a real news network.

    “What I think is fair to say about Fox — and certainly it’s the way we view it — is that it really is more a wing of the Republican Party,” Dunn said on CNN. “They take their talking points, put them on the air; take their opposition research, put them on the air. And that’s fine. But let’s not pretend they’re a news network the way CNN is.”

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/18/obama-team-continues-effort-isolate-fox-news/

    ************************************************************

    So I guess it would be OK if they were representative of the Democrats??????? They are just pi**ed that Fox doesn’t suck up to them like the other networks do. Will just be a matter of time before censorship takes place in this nation.

  177. jrinNC Says:

    Colorado Authorities: ‘Balloon Boy’ Flight ‘Was a Stunt’

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568420,00.html
    *************************************************************
    What a shame this turned out to be a hoax.

  178. jrinNC Says:

    Ahmadinejad vows to avenge bombing

    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1255694836972&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

    *****************************************************
    I still think he believe the US had something to do with this.

  179. jrinNC Says:

    Turkey’s actions towards Israel worry US

    The Obama administration is very concerned about Turkey’s actions towards Israel and growing closeness with Syria, US sources told The Jerusalem Post.

    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1255694828871&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

  180. jrinNC Says:

    Picking a fight: Obama vs Fox News

    http://www.centurylink.net/news/read.php?id=17413530&ps=1016&srce=news_class&action=2&lang=en&_LT=HOME_ETNWC00L2_UNEWS

    President Barack Obama’s communications director says it was Fox News Channel, not the White House, that picked a fight.
    ************************************************************
    Me thinks this is going to get way out of hand.

  181. ryansgrammy Says:

    Nevada elections, October 24, 2009, Nevada politicians, Nevada Grassroots Coalition, Clark County, Nevada State Legislature, Take Back Nevada, Clark County Library

    http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2009/10/18/nevada-elections-october-24-2009-nevada-politicians-nevada-grassroots-coalition-clark-county-nevada-state-legislature-take-back-nevada-clark-county-library/

  182. Troy Says:

    There has been a coyote lurking in the edge of the woods behind my house for the past two evenings….He wants to eat my feral kitties!!!

    http://www.abc26.com/coyotes-st-tammany-news-wgno,0,4353092.story

  183. jrinNC Says:

    Well I hope he doesn’t get to them. I have to worry about things like that here also. And bears and bob cats. Of course right now I have a night visitor that has been stealing my outside kitty’s food – possum. I swear he is a big as my full sized Peke. I caught him the other night and took a big stick to him and about beat him to death. I was afraid to go in and get my gun as it was late and it would have scared my Uncle who lives next door probably to death. The next night he was back – so now I just take up the food and put it out the next morning.

  184. jrinNC Says:

    Where is everyone tonight????????

  185. jrinNC Says:

    This Cannot Stand…

    This cannot stand. The hour is near, I can feel it. I have now heard numerous times from retired military friends in private, all independent of each other, one common sentiment….

    “Civil War by Winter, or a failed Communist state by Spring!”

    … “Americans who own bibles and guns, know how to use them, won’t let anyone take either of them away, and will take a bunch of folks down before going down.”

    http://freepeopleontheland.wordpress.com/

  186. Troy Says:

    Sunday, October 18, 2009
    Lord Monckton’s Blogger, plus MissTickly – 2 Bombshells on The Awakening

    THE TWO MOST IMPORTANT STORIES OF THE YEAR ?!

    WALTER HUDSON is the blogger who witnessed, recorded, and broke the news of LORD MONCKTON’s siren call for our paramount American Sovereignties, under attack by the “Climate Change Treaty.” We will listen to Mr. Hudson and to Lord Monckton’s brief presentation, hour-1.

    Then, MissTICKLY may have found evidence tending to indicate that (please take a deep breath) Barack Obama is the son of cousins, Stanley Ann Dunham and Frank Marshall Davis — and Hawaiian royalty — perhaps heir to the Hawaiian throne. If true, this would imply criminal fraud by Obama.

    Don’t miss these two hours. You may wish to prepare first, by reading Hudson’s posting in Sentinel Radio Blog and Mr. Hudson’s own Fightin’ Words. The video of Monckton’s messege is at these sites, too.

    MissTickly, a.k.a. TerriK continues to break the news of her Hawaiian documents investigation in her blog as she did in last week’s “Awakening” broadcast. The prior week, Leo Donofrio told us about his own, related, Hawaiian investigation.

    http://investigatingobama.blogspot.com/2009/10/lord-moncktons-blogger-plus-misstickly.html

  187. Tenacity Says:

    jr,
    Opossum can be quite dangerous, there teeth are like razors and their jaw locks like a bull dog. When I was young, I learned to look before putting my hand into the chicken feed can. Got the wits scared out of me a couple times. I suggest scaring the hell out of your uncle and shoot the fat hissing marsupial. Just give your uncle a heads up now so the next time you see it you can put it down. I would bait it. They carry disease too.

  188. Troy Says:

    Possums are very easily caught in live traps.

  189. Tenacity Says:

    Troy, that blog talk show with the Monckton’s blogger, Hudson, and MissTickly is tomorrow night at 9pm Eastern at http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Sentinel_Radio/2009/10/20/Lord-Moncktons-Blogger-MissTicklys-New-Bombshell

    I’ve trapped Opossum, but then what the heck do you do with them. You sure don’t want to handle them. I wouldn’t bother relocating them so someone else will have to shoot them. We trapped them inside our shed at night for convenience, then brought them out to shoot them.

  190. jrinNC Says:

    Thanks guys, I have a trap so I guess I will bait it and catch the sucker and then shoot it.

  191. Troy Says:

    Troy, that blog talk show with the Monckton’s blogger, Hudson, and MissTickly is tomorrow night
    ***************************************
    It was on 10/12…I’m listening to the rebroadcast right now…Maybe there is a follow-up tomorrow night.

    what the heck do you do with them. You sure don’t want to handle them.
    ***********************************************************
    I’m able to relocate them here to the rear of the subdivision, where there is a river….The homes werwe flooded years ago and are now abandoned….It is thicket back there, opposum heaven.

  192. Troy Says:

    Thanks guys, I have a trap so I guess I will bait it and catch the sucker and then shoot it.
    *********************************************************
    I no longer shoot any animals for being inconvient….I will shoot the coyote with a pump pellet gun to scare it off and hopefully discourage future visits….I have watchrf fox and bobcat through a rifle scope and not squeezed the trigger.

  193. Troy Says:

    good grief, I can’t type tonight!!!

  194. jrinNC Says:

    Yeah Troy, I just called my Uncle he said to set the trap and he will take him down to the swamp and let him loose. So trap is set and hopefully by tomorrow he will be in another location.

  195. Troy Says:

    OBAMA WATCH CENTRAL
    White House admits: We ‘control’ news media
    Communications chief offers shocking confession to foreign government
    ——————————————————————————–
    Posted: October 18, 2009
    7:11 pm Eastern

    By Aaron Klein
    © 2009 WorldNetDaily

    Anita Dunn

    TEL AVIV – President Obama’s presidential campaign focused on “making” the news media cover certain issues while rarely communicating anything to the press unless it was “controlled,” White House Communications Director Anita Dunn disclosed to the Dominican government at a videotaped conference.

    “Very rarely did we communicate through the press anything that we didn’t absolutely control,” said Dunn.

    “One of the reasons we did so many of the David Plouffe videos was not just for our supporters, but also because it was a way for us to get our message out without having to actually talk to reporters,” said Dunn, referring to Plouffe, who was Obama’s chief campaign manager.

    “We just put that out there and made them write what Plouffe had said as opposed to Plouffe doing an interview with a reporter. So it was very much we controlled it as opposed to the press controlled it,” Dunn said.

    Check out the hot new best-seller — “Muslim Mafia”

    Continued Dunn: “Whether it was a David Plouffe video or an Obama speech, a huge part of our press strategy was focused on making the media cover what Obama was actually saying as opposed to why the campaign was saying it, what the tactic was. … Making the press cover what we were saying.”

    Video of Dunn’s remarks at the conference can be seen below:

    (Story continues below)
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=113347

  196. Troy Says:

    There was a time when I could kill animals and not give it much thought, but I just can’t do it anymore.

    If I were hungry and needed the meat for food, it would be a different story…There is a huge difference.

  197. Troy Says:

    jr, what I do is, take a can of red or blue spray paint and spray a streak across their back while they are still in the live trap before I haul them off…That way I know if I ever retrap one that I need to take it across the river to the other side.

  198. jrinNC Says:

    Good idea Troy. I really think he is the same one I had trouble with last year since this one is bigger. Guess he likes my area. I sure don’t know how he gets into my backyard though as it is fenced in. Do they climb fences??

  199. Troy Says:

    Yes, CAIR is planting ‘spies’ on Capitol Hill
    FBI cites ‘people in positions of power within the organization directly connected to terrorism’
    ——————————————————————————–
    Posted: October 18, 2009
    9:33 pm Eastern

    By David Kupelian
    © 2009 WorldNetDaily

    While a Washington-based Muslim organization the government classifies as an unindicted terror co-conspirator – and which has, in fact, seen several of its leaders imprisoned on terrorism convictions – scoffed last week at congressional charges it was attempting to plant interns and staffers in key Capitol Hill offices to influence policy, a hot-selling new book documents the controversial group is successfully doing precisely that.

    Last Tuesday, four lawmakers held a Capitol Hill press conference demanding three separate federal investigations of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, or CAIR. Rep. Sue Myrick, R-N.C., founder of the Congressional Anti-terrorism Caucus which has over 100 members both Democrat and Republican, was joined by Reps. Trent Franks, R-Ariz., John Shadegg R-Ariz., and Paul Broun R-Ga., in calling on the Justice Department to share with Congress findings that caused the FBI to officially sever ties with CAIR. The four also requested that the Capitol’s sergeant at arms determine whether CAIR had infiltrated congressional offices, and that IRS investigate the legality of CAIR’s non-profit status.

    Prompting the congressional demands was the release last week of “Muslim Mafia: Inside the Secret Underworld That’s Conspiring to Islamize America” by P. David Gaubatz and Paul Sperry. The book is based in part on a daring six-month undercover investigation that resulted in many alarming revelations about the supposedly “moderate” group, backed by 12,000 pages of internal documents.

    (Story continues below)
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=113350

  200. Troy Says:

    Interview: Man Who Went Undercover As Muslim Intern Speaks To TPM
    Justin Elliott | October 16, 2009, 4:52PM

    Your mission, should you choose to accept it: Change your name. Grow a beard and learn the ways of Islam. Present yourself at the Council on American Islamic Relations. Acquire an internship. Wear a wire. Take whatever isn’t bolted down.

    That’s the mission Chris Gaubatz accepted last year. And Gaubatz, who sells insurance for a living, told TPMmuckraker in an email interview that he never once felt guilty during the six months as a Muslim intern spy and that, well, some of the CAIR folks were pretty darn nice, despite any terrorist sympathies.

    His father co-authored the new book Muslim Mafia based on the allegedly incriminating documents Chris took. Citing the documents, four House Republicans have charged that CAIR dispatched Muslim intern spies to key national security committees, calling for authorities to investigate.

    “They were nice people and I got along with them very well which is why I was able to retrieve the information I did,” Gaubatz says. “But just because somebody is outwardly friendly doesn’t mean they can’t be doing something wrong or even harming National Security.”

    Gaubatz, whose father coordinated the project, says he’s unbowed by CAIR’s charge that he stole documents.

    And asked about his father’s statement that Barack Obama is Muslim, Gaubatz responded, “Obama’s religious affiliation has nothing to do with my reasoning for gathering information on the organization.”

    Here’s the full interview (edited for clarity):
    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/interview_man_who_went_undercover_as_muslim_intern.php

  201. Troy Says:

    Do they climb fences??
    *******************
    What type of fence?…Chainlink?…I don’t think he would have a problem climbing a chainlink fence…A wooden fence may present a problem for him.

  202. jrinNC Says:

    I have a wooden fence, but my gate is chain link.

  203. Troy Says:

    but my gate is chain link.
    *********************
    Bingo!!!

  204. Troy Says:

    Is your gate a double swing gate that latches in the middle?…If so, you would be surprised at their ability to squeeze through a narrow gap, like the one provided by a double gate.

  205. Troy Says:

    Also, inspect the ground around the perimiter of your fence…Look for any signs of a small gap at the bottom.

  206. jrinNC Says:

    READY TO REVOLT: Oath Keepers pledges to prevent dictatorship in United States

    Group asks police and military to lay down arms in response to orders deemed unlawful

    Leaders of the group will come together in Las Vegas starting Oct. 24 for the inaugural national conference of Oath Keepers.

    http://www.lvrj.com/news/oath-keepers-pledges-to-prevent-dictatorship-in-united-states-64690232.html

  207. patriotamy Says:

    You want to borrow by Min Pin — ???? She has taken care of our gopher problem, our mouse problem.

    Don’t know about possums though. But she would surely try.

  208. jrinNC Says:

    Bingo is right – I do have a gap where it swings to the pole to lock and it is about 3 inches. Well looks like I will be either moving the fence over or stick a new pole in. New pole is easier. Thanks for your advice.

  209. patriotamy Says:

    Dang dog won’t give up. If a mouse or gopher goes under something, she will go after it. Dig a hole if necessary. (That’s the only thing I have against her, the digging…) But, once she gets the scent, there is no stopping her.

    I have seen her lay and wait for hours in one spot, waiting for the mouse to come our.

    Better than any cat I ever had for mouse control.

  210. Troy Says:

    Rose emailed me and asked me to post this for her.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Bill’s mother passed away this morning. (my mother-in-law)

    She was getting ready to go to church and fell and hit her head in the bathroom.

    She had an aneurysm and we suspect that played a part.

    Her wake will be on Wednesday and the funeral mass will be on Thursday.

    Please say a prayer for Anne Marie Guerin Cupo.

    Auchmoody, Shawn – Robert H Auchmoody Funeral Inc

    Address:
    1028 Main St, Fishkill, NY 12524

    Phone:
    (845) 896-6166

    St Mary’s Church

    Address:
    103 Jackson St, Fishkill, NY 12524

    Phone:
    (845) 896-6400

  211. jrinNC Says:

    LOL Amy – I am afraid this guy is about the size of your Min Pin. He is a big sucker. Like I said, he is about as big as my standard Peke. I just don’t like them suckers they are so nasty. Thank goodness he can’t get into my trash cans. The cat food apparently was what attracted him to the area.

  212. ryansgrammy Says:

    Troy — I sure hope he doesn’t get your kitties!!!!! (BTW, how is the knee doing???) Troy I’m with you — I won’t even kill a cricket. As a little girl I used to fish and go soft crabbing with my Dad and I would clean the soft crabs and cook them up. Now when I catch a crab or a fish I just let it go. Many years ago my hubby decided he wanted lobster so he sent me to the store where you could pick out your own lobster. I came home with chicken instead. I mean once you make eye contact with the guy you just can’t take him home and boil him. 🙂

  213. cynkading Says:

    Hi everyone!

    As Spokesperson for Black America, Al Sharpton…You’re fired!
    http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/10/as_spokesperson_for_black_amer.html

  214. patriotamy Says:

    Troy Says:
    October 19, 2009 at 2:35 am

    Rose emailed me and asked me to post this for her.
    ************************************************
    Thanks, Troy. Will say a prayer for Rose’s family.

  215. jrinNC Says:

    Oh no, that is awful. On top of everything now this has to happen. Rose I am so sorry for Bill’s and your loss. Prayer already gone up for all of you.

  216. cynkading Says:

    So sorry to hear Rose’s mother-in-law has passed. Rose has really got her plate full. thanks Troy for letting us know. I will be in prayer for the Cupo family.

  217. Troy Says:

    I do have a gap where it swings to the pole to lock and it is about 3 inches. Well looks like I will be either moving the fence over or stick a new pole in. New pole is easier.
    ********************************************************
    If you do not need to be able to drive a vehicle (truck) into your back yard, then just hammer a pipe or two into the ground where that gap is.

    Fill the gap!

  218. ryansgrammy Says:

    Troy — thanks for the information. How sad for Rose and Bill. Will say a prayer for them and Bill’s family.

  219. Troy Says:

    God bless the Cupo family!

  220. Troy Says:

    Terry, you were right about the Miss Tickly show appearance tomorrow night.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Ok people, are you ready for some mind boggling stuff?…Well, here it is.

    http://misstickly.wordpress.com/2009/10/18/lord-monckton/

  221. jrinNC Says:

    Ok people, are you ready for some mind boggling stuff?
    *************************************************
    Yeah I saw that stuff – I have always said BO was too light to be a product of BO sr.

  222. jrinNC Says:

    Fill the gap!
    **************************************************
    That is exactly what I am going to do. I just checked the trap – still empty.

  223. Troy Says:

    Read the comments here, there are only 16 of them…Very interesting

    http://misstickly.wordpress.com/2009/10/18/lord-monckton/

  224. igaveup Says:

    i’ve always thought that barack sr. wasn’t his daddy, that it was probably uncle frank, but i can’t make the link to Hawaiian royalty?

  225. igaveup Says:

    Prayer for Rose and family.

  226. joldy Says:

    Prayer for Rose an the Cupo family.

  227. Troy Says:

    This is VERY interesting, especially when you consider Obama’s friend saying he was born in Indonesia in that Honolulu Advertiser story.

    There have been absolutely no look alike photos out of Kenya, or Africa for that matter.

    Check this out:
    http://obambi.wordpress.com/2009/07/26/obama-was-never-legally-adopted/

  228. Goferit Says:

    Troy,

    Thanks for Rose’s update.

    Rose and Bill, my prayers are with you both this week, and with your family.

    Réquiem ætérnam dona ei Dómine; et lux perpétua lúceat ei. Requiéscat in pace. Amen.

  229. patriotamy Says:

    Just doing a little surfing tonight and found this – Posted Aug. 20, 2009

    http://allafrica.com/stories/200908200781.html

    My colleague wept, with relief, as he listened to Mrs. Clinton because it became plain that the Obama administration was not hoodwinked by Nigerian government propaganda. No detail of the country’s present demeaning, life-threatening disease is hidden from the US State Department. Little wonder then why Kenyan-born Barack Obama, America’s first Black President, converted his major speech at his recent Ghana trip to a scathing upbraiding of Nigeria’s irresponsible leadership! Clinton is implementing a tough-love state policy: to whip Nigeria’s mulish leadership into line, and let verbal tact and finesse go to hell! This patient needs drastic therapy, and must endure it.

  230. Tenacity Says:

    Troy,
    I don’t like killing anything I can’t eat as well. Disease infested rodents like rats and prairie dogs are different. Opossum and porcupine are on my hit list. They are not endangered, they are destructive and their population needs to be thinned. Not enough natural predators.

  231. sdee Says:

    US Minister of Propaganda

  232. sdee Says:

    Saturday morning cartoons for Palestinian kids.

    It is important to learn English because it is the language of your enemy.

  233. jrinNC Says:

    This is hilarious

    Hydrogen Barackside

  234. sdee Says:

    Submission to Islam is a cornerstone of The Religion of Peace:
    ———————-

    “” International Christian Concern (ICC) has learned that on October 6, members of the Taliban sent threatening letters in Sargodha, Pakistan warning Christian leaders to convert to Islam or face dire consequences.

    A copy of the letter obtained by ICC warns Christians to convert to Islam, pay Jizya tax (an Islamic tax imposed on religious minorities) or leave the country.

    If Christians refuse to accept the choices given to them, the letter explains that they “would be killed, their property and homes would be burnt to ashes and their women would be treated as sex slaves. And they themselves would be responsible for this.”

    Rev. Zaheer Khan, pastor of Maghoo Memorial Church, Rev. Aamir Azeem, pastor of United Christians Church and Rev. Zafar Akhter, pastor of United Presbyterian Church each received a copy of threatening letter.

    The Islamists sent the letters to the following Christian institutions:
    St Peter’s Middle School
    Sargodha Institute of Technology
    Sargodha Catholic High School
    St John’s Primary School
    Fatima Hospital.
    “”

    http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2009/10/pakistan-taliban-send-letters-to-christian-institutions-warning-them-to-convert-to-islam-and-pay-jiz.html

  235. jrinNC Says:

    Obamacare May be Unconstitutional

    http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/obama_health_constitution/2009/10/18/273679.html

    “Constitutional challenges could arise on several fronts: the government’s power to regulate interstate commerce; privacy concerns related to doctor-patient interactions that have their origins in Roe v. Wade; constitutional restrictions on the federal government’s authority to levy taxes; and the plan’s numerous clauses promoting racial preferences.”

  236. jrinNC Says:

    morning sdee – chilly here this am

  237. jrinNC Says:

    3 Senators, Obama Secretly Write Health Bill

    http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/healthcare_reform_secret/2009/10/18/273648.html

    According to the Washington Post, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., and Sens. Christopher Dodd, D-Conn., and Max Baucus, D-Mont., gather in Reid’s office to hammer out a merger of competing bills before a Senate vote. The only other people allowed in the room are key aides and Obama’s representatives on healthcare reform.

  238. jrinNC Says:

    Russia ready to abandon dollar in oil, gas trade with China

    http://www.infowars.com/russia-ready-to-abandon-dollar-in-oil-gas-trade-with-china/

    ************************************************************
    How many does this make now????

  239. jrinNC Says:

    This Isn’t Change, It’s Treason

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/15930

    Socialists have declared jihad on our economic prosperity, US dollar, Constitution, Sovereignty

  240. jrinNC Says:

    Communist Goals (1963)

    http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm#Documention

    *************************************************************
    how many have already come to pass or are coming.

  241. jrinNC Says:

    Iran: US, UK, Pakistan behind bomb

    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1255694843978&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
    **********************************************************
    As I have posted previously Ahmadinejad is really hot over this and the US needs to be extremely vigilant.

  242. jrinNC Says:

    Support for Democrats’ Health Care Reform Falls to 42 Percent, Poll Shows

    Rasmussen survey released Monday shows 54 percent is opposed to the plans backed by President Obama and Democrats in Congress.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/19/support-democrats-health-care-reform-falls-percent-poll-shows/

    *******************************************************
    This needs to be 100% opposed. What is it going to take for people to wake up??????? The problem is that so many have lived their whole lives on govt subsidized programs and this is just another feather in their cap.

  243. Troy Says:

    New from Leo
    ************
    Stonewalled In Hawaii – Where’s World Net Daily On This Issue?

    http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/

  244. Troy Says:

    MODUS OPERANDI TO CONCEAL INFILTRATION OF COMMUNISTS DURING LAST 70 YEARS
    by John Charlton

    (Oct. 19, 2009) — The scrubbing of the internet to rewrite Obama’s birth story, perpetrated by Google’s Newspaper Archive and numerous news sites such as the Honolulu Advertiser, is not something new; nor unique to the Obama Campaign; it’s the standard modus operandi of Communist infiltration in the U.S.A. whose roots go back nearly 70 years.

    Just 2 years ago a scholar M. Stanton Evans, warned the citizens of the United States about the tactic of stealing history, in his book on Senator Joseph McCarthy.

    Whether one agreed with or despised the politics of the late Senator McCarthy, one thing all should agree on is this: that the history of the events surrounding his anti-communist crusade should be preserved for posterity.

    More here:
    http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/

  245. jrinNC Says:

    Troy does Leo sound a little discouraged to you???

  246. Katie Says:

    I just want to offer my deepest condolences to Rose and Bill and your whole family on the sudden death of Bill’s mother.

    Having been through something similar with my mother-in-law, I can tell you that it rocks your world and there’s nothing you can do to prepare for the shock.

    In time, I know you’ll be able to look back on her life and her contributions and her lessons, and appreciate more fully all that she lived.

    In the meantime, hold each other close and know that many of us are thinking of you all.

  247. Troy Says:

    jrinNC Says:

    October 19, 2009 at 2:35 pm
    Troy does Leo sound a little discouraged to you???
    ******************************************
    No, he just knows that WND has more pull than he does…He is trying to goad them into action….He will file a suit when and if necessary….I think he is seeking help from WND as a last resort in hopes of keeping him from having to file suit and start flying to Hawaii….It would be a hassle for him and he is trying to avoid it if possible.

  248. jrinNC Says:

    RAW DATA: Palin Critique of Senate Finance Committee Health Care Bill

    Former Alaska governor Sarah Palin used a social networking Web site to criticize the sweeping health care overhaul bill approved by the Senate Finance Committee — claiming the legislation creates a “perfect storm” for increasing health care costs.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/19/raw-data-palin-critique-senate-finance-committee-health-care/

  249. Bones Says:

    My condolences to you, dear Rose.

  250. Troy Says:

  251. Bones Says:

    http://misstickly.wordpress.com/2009/10/19/shutting-down-the-blog-open-thread/

  252. Bones Says:

    So what are the “recent Hawaiin royal findings” of Miss Tickly? Anyone know? All I ever saw on her blog were some pictures…

  253. sdee Says:

    Troy does Leo sound a little discouraged to you???
    ************************************

    Troy, I thought, reading that post, that Leo was trying flush WND out on not pursuing the obvious.

    Just saw the comment pasted below.

    I’ve always been wary of WND – something just seems of over there.

    Strange strange times.

    —————————

    Leo, I wrote to WND to ask them why they were not reporting on this issue. I was shocked to get this response…….

    Covering what? An illiterate lawyer’s opinion?

    Joseph Farah
    Editor and Chief Executive Officer
    WorldNetDaily

    Leo’s response:

    [ed. forward the email with header, if you don’t mind. Illiterate? Hey, I’ve read some books. And some statutes. Doesn’t seem like WND is interested in using the laws available to him for research. What part of “any person” does he not understand? He has a vested interest in selling advertising based upon the Obama place of birth situation. The very second that issue is resolved, WND loses revenue. Chew on that.]

  254. joldy Says:

    Bones Says:

    October 19, 2009 at 4:36 pm
    So what are the “recent Hawaiin royal findings” of Miss Tickly? Anyone know? All I ever saw on her blog were some pictures…

    —————————-

    Check here…
    The Hawaiian Royals-Open Thread
    10/17/2009

    http://misstickly.wordpress.com/2009/10/17/the-hawaiian-royals-open-thread/

    432 Responses to “The Hawaiian Royals-Open Thread”

    some interesting chat, I dont have the time now to sit and read them all now an it may be gone if site gets shut down.

  255. joldy Says:

    http://misstickly.wordpress.com/2009/10/17/the-hawaiian-royals-open-thread/

    Kathy Barkulis said
    10/17/2009 at 11:02 pm
    Ok guys–I signed up on the Maoliworld blog and made a comment about Obama becoming the new King since he is a native Hawaiian if they take back their territory. Here’s what the blogger responded to me:

    Kathy,

    I don’t think I may have mentioned here, maybe I did in one of my blog entries but the fact that in the English language people mistake “native” in varying forms only helps confuse people such as yourself. There is the US’ imposed “native Hawaiian” which is a quantitive term, versus the Native Hawaiian term which both are ethnic terms, an attempt to make the world believe that the nationality (Hawaiian) doesn’t exist. As far as a monarchy goes, there was a way that the constitution guaranteed how an ali’i would qualify to be elected as the next monarch.

    As far as Obama being a King of the world or even worse, that he’d be the answer as far as Hawaii having its king, Obama could easily be disqualified as being the President of the US based on the fact that he was born in an occupied state.

    [Uh, oh I get it o-patronizing-one. I get what you mean by “Native.” Geez. (her, not you)

    Thank you for posting this, it’s very interesting…=0

    “such as yourself..” Kiss my ass, lady.

    I was of course speaking to the person that wrote you that–I have understood for quite awhile now what they mean when they say Native Hawaiian. They mean, BHO is NOT ELIGIBLE.

    How’s that?]

    http:/

    /www.maoliworld.com/

    This link was mentioned in the Responses to “The Hawaiian Royals-Open Thread”

    not sure what you will find. Posting it here, I want to check it out but lack the time now.

  256. Troy Says:

  257. Troy Says:

  258. Troy Says:

  259. jrinNC Says:

    New Post from Leo

    Point Made…
    Posted in Uncategorized on October 19, 2009 by naturalborncitizen

    I’ve deleted my prior post so that the journal mentioned might reverse course now that I’ve made my point: that information is available from Hawaii for those who will call Hawaii to follow their own public disclosure laws.

    No news journal can talk about this issue and deserve any respect if they aren’t willing to use the law available to them for research. Research is to the media just as a hammer is to a carpenter – a necessary tool. We shall now see if they are interested in doing their job or if they will continue to dodge that chore.

  260. jrh Says:

    Leo just removed his post about WND. I don’t think he liked what Farah had to say.

  261. joldy Says:

    Why David Keene Threatened To Punch Me At WCPAC
    by John Ziegler | 7:02 pm, October 18th, 2009» 20 comments

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/why-david-keene-threatened-to-punch-me-at-wcpac/

    ok i’m out the door, have a good day Troy an all!

  262. jrh Says:

    Ha, sorry jr, I should have refreshed before posting.

  263. jrinNC Says:

    Glad I finished reading all the posts on that article of Leo’s.

  264. jrinNC Says:

    That is OK jrh – I do the same sometimes. I was reading all the comments and went somewhere else for a sec and boom it was gone.

  265. jrinNC Says:

    But I agree, Leo was miffed for sure. I don’t blame him one bit. I sure hope he doesn’t give up. I really believe that the crap is going to hit the fan really soon.

  266. budgy Says:

    Did anyone listen to Beck on radio today? I missed it today.

    Zach Jones left a comment at Citizen Wells……

    “I hope everyone heard Glenn Beck this morning read the Globe article about him on air. He also read the entire paragraph about Larry Sinclair!”

  267. budgy Says:

    Link for the Globe’s new story headlines

    http://www.globemagazine.com/

  268. Troy Says:

    It’s about time for Beck to quit focussing on Obama’s cohorts and go directly after Obama….There is a mountain of dirt on Obama and Beck knows it.

  269. Troy Says:

    More news from Leo a couple of minutes ago.

    http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/10/19/moving-forward/

  270. Troy Says:

    Leo will not be posting anything further unless it is in regards to litigation against Hawaii DOH.

  271. budgy Says:

    After my post and run a while ago, I came back to read this entire thread. Rose you will be so deeply missed but never forgotten. God’s speed in your future endeavours. My sympathies and heartfelt prayers to your family on the loss of your mother in law. May you find happiness and peace in your new life.
    On the selfish side– I hope you return here one day. Your blog family will be waiting to once again share this unique experience. Thanks for our home, your prayers, and for being you. God bless.

  272. jrinNC Says:

    Yeah, but Leo also says:

    Either litigation will commence or you won’t hear from me again via this blog.

    I have a very uneasy feeling about all of this. Something is happening that is causing all the folks to up and stop. I know that Rose said she had no outside pressure and Ms Tickly said the same thing. Are we missing something????? I am just trying to understand and fear I have missed something that will give me just even a hint as to the abruptness of all this. Guess I am just being paranoid today.

    I know Troy, Leo has done this before and he always comes back.

    And I truly hope that Rose will reconsider after things settle down on the home front. But if not, Rose, please know that I wish you the very best in all your endeavors. You will always remain a special person with me and will cherish the few talks we had via email.

  273. Foxtrot Says:

    Rose, I come here on occasion to check in after leaving months ago. The last time I happened to check in was when dear Cindy took her own life. It was a shock, to say the least, and the atmosphere felt as it does now. I pray you get through whatever you are going through, with the help of someone, and come back stronger than ever. Don’t let the pressures of family or life distract you from the fact that you are loved and appreciated by many. Please take care of yourself. You worry me.

  274. jrinNC Says:

    Hey Fox – hope all is going well with you. Glad you posted – we miss you also.

  275. Foxtrot Says:

    Thanks jrinNC! You all might want to check out the latest comment section on the Citizen Wells blog. Things seem to be heating up with investigating Obama and his birth certificate. It seems someone has hired a P.I. and is getting some serious work done on the matter! FYI.

    citizenwells.wordpress.com/2009/10/19/hawaii-attorney-general-mark-bennett-leo-c-donofrio-update-october-19-2009-stonewaled-in-hawaii-where%e2%80%99s-world-net-daily-on-this-issue-stonewalled-attorney-client-privilege-public-st/

    Look for comments by “Maddie” toward the bottom of the blog/comment section.

  276. Tenacity Says:

    This was a “letter to the editor” in yesterdays (August 29)
    Jackson, MS newspaper.

    Dear Sirs:

    “During my last night’s shift in the ER, I had the pleasure of
    evaluating a patient with a shiny new gold tooth, multiple
    elaborate tattoos, a very expensive brand of tennis shoes and a new
    cellular telephone equipped with her favorite R&B tune for a
    ringtone. Glancing over the chart, one could not help noticing
    her payer status: Medicaid. She smokes more than one costly pack
    of cigarettes every day and, somehow, still has money to buy beer.
    And our president expects me to pay for this woman’s health care?
    Our nation’s health care crisis is not a shortage of quality
    hospitals, doctors or nurses. It is a crisis of culture — a
    culture in which it is perfectly acceptable to spend money on vices
    while refusing to take care of one’s self or, heaven forbid,
    purchase health insurance. A culture that thinks “I can do
    whatever I want to because someone else will always take care of me.”

    Life is really not that hard…. Most of us reap what we sow.

    Don’t you agree?

    STARNER JONES,MD
    Jackson, MS

  277. Tenacity Says:

    btw, Gaubatz is on The Dame Truth tonight:

    http://blogtalkradio.com/The-Dame-Truth
    Mondays 8:00 PM EST
    (347) 202-0569

    “The Dame Truth”
    Welcomes
    Davidi & Chris Gaubatz
    Researcher & and Undercover Operative
    CAIR Exposed

  278. sdee Says:

    LC take on Bo’s decision to tie troop decision to Afghanistan election probe.

    “”Let us name this for what it is, in, Bearick Huxxxein Obama, did not like the outcome of the Afghanistan elections, so now he and his globalist cronies are getting rid of the pro American Bush choice in Karzai for an Obama Brzezinski hand puppet in a coup with the people being assassinated are Americans and not Vietnamese like in John Kennedy’s coups.
    Oh let us then examine some other Brzezinski choices in Khomeini in Iran over the pro American Shah during the Carter years. That really turned out nuclear well now didn’t it!

    Could you imagine Franklin Roosevelt telling Gen. Eisenhower, “Sorry Dwight, no D-Day for awhile until those French get those free election things worked out.”

    This entire Obama policy is criminally irresponsible. He should be arrested by the JAG.

    Come on John McCain, prove you are an American and speak up man for the American Soldiers you are allowing to be slaughtered now.””

    http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2009/10/with-hundreds-of-americans-now-having.html

  279. jrinNC Says:

    Netanyahu: Israel and U.S. have resolved settlements row

    “We solved the matter of the settlements with the Americans,” Netanyahu told his Spanish counterpart.

    “I cannot say more than that. If you are interested in hearing more details, ask in Washington,” added Netanyahu.

    Zapatero told Netanyahu of his visit to the White House two days before his arrival in Jerusalem. He said he was obsessed with Obama, and that there will never be another chance where a man who professes values such as his will be president, and everyone must help him realize his vision.

    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1121965.html
    ***********************************************************
    Zapatero is obsessed with BO????????? Plus that last sentence is frightening.

  280. jrinNC Says:

    Oil jumps above $79 in Asia to hit year long high

    http://gulfnews.com/business/oil-gas/oil-jumps-above-79-in-asia-to-hit-year-long-high-1.516532

  281. sdee Says:

    Is there really any aspect of our lives that cannot be linked to healthcare once the Feds control it?

    Obamacare could effectively ban guns:

    “”The Baucus bill also contains provisions allowing insurers to charge higher premiums for “unhealthy behavior” but fails to define that term. A bureaucrat like Sebelius could easily rank gun owners in that category says GOA. It cites the current practice of companies like Prudential and State Farm which drop homeowners who refuse to use trigger locks and points out that gun owners would not be able to shop around for other coverage under ObamaCare’s nationalized system.

    Also troubling is wording in the bill summary that provides for research to “encourage increased meaningful use of electronic health records.” The pro-Second Amendment group sees this as a plain-language admission of a federal database to monitor not only medical history but also matters the government determines to be relevant, including gun information. GOA points out that many military veterans have been denied the right to gun ownership because of conditions such as post-traumatic stress disorder.””

    http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/congress/2077-senate-obamacare-bill-could-ban-guns

  282. jrinNC Says:

    White House Urges Other Networks to Disregard Fox News

    The White House is calling on other news organizations to isolate and alienate Fox News as it sends out top advisers to rail against the cable channel as a Republican Party mouthpiece.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/18/white-house-escalates-war-fox-news-1925819282/

    ********************************************************
    So much for a bipartisan administration. I see our freedom of speech going down the drain. If we can’t say anything good about this administration, we aren’t to say anything?????????????????

  283. joldy Says:

    Lord Christopher Monckton on Glenn Beck Radio Oct. 19th, 2009 – Part 1

  284. joldy Says:

    Lord Christopher Monckton on Glenn Beck Radio Oct. 19th, 2009 – Part 2

  285. joldy Says:

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Sentinel_Radio/2009/10/20/Lord-Moncktons-Blogger-MissTicklys-New-Bombshell

    Sentinel Radio
    Call-in Number: (646) 727-2652

    THE 2 MOST IMPORTANT STORIES OF THE YEAR ?!

    WALTER HUDSON is the blogger who witnessed, recorded and broke the news of Lord Monckton’s siren call for our paramount American Sovereignties. We’ll listen to both of these gentlemen in hour-1.

    Then, MissTICKLY may have found evidence tending to indicate that (please take a deep breath) Barack Obama is the son of cousins, Stanley Ann Dunham and Frank Marshall Davis — and is heir to the Hawaiian throne. If true, this would imply criminal fraud by Obama.

    Don’t miss these two hours. You may wish to prepare first, by reading Hudson’s posting in Sentinel Radio Blog and Mr. Hudson’s own Fightin’ Words.

    MissTickly, a.k.a. TerriK continues to break the news of her Hawaiian documents investigation in her blog as she did in last week’s “The Awakening” broadcast. The prior week, Leo Donofrio told us about his own, related, Hawaiian investigation.

  286. sdee Says:

    Very interesting article from Dr. Kate, connecting quite a few dots.

    Obama, Brzezinski, and Pakistan

    http://drkatesview.wordpress.com/2009/10/19/obama-brzezinski-and-pakistan/#more-1204

  287. Troy Says:

    Is anyone else having audio problems with Sentinel radio?

  288. Troy Says:

    It seems to be OK now.

  289. Tenacity Says:

    Nice chat room at Sentinel eh?

  290. Tenacity Says:

    Well, I will just have to sacrifice and chat with Rose’s Gang 😆

  291. Tenacity Says:

    BTR’s stream has been unstable for a couple weeks now. You have to wonder about a show that starts out with a 4 minute music intro however.

  292. Tenacity Says:

    Did everyone go to sleep listening to this show?

  293. jrinNC Says:

    I am having problems with the site – I had to connect thru windows media.

  294. Troy Says:

    I cannot connect to blogtalk with IE anymore…I have to use Firefox…It’s been that way for at least a month.

  295. sdee Says:

    Any thoughts on this?

    As every attack seems to lead to the Constitution, it seems that hope leads to the same.

    “”Oath Keepers has teamed up with the leadership of the National 912 Project to host a National Liberty Unity Summit in Washington D.C., over two days,on December 15 (Bill of Rights Day) and December 16 (the anniversary of the Boston Tea Party), 2009.

    With this summit, we will be calling on the national leadership of all Constitutionalist/liberty organizations across the nation to set aside any differences and come together, on the anniversaries of the ratification of our Bill of Rights and of the Boston Tea Party, to join together, and work together to preserve our Republic””

    http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2009/10/19/oath-keepers-teams-up-with-national-912-project-to-sponsor-national-liberty-unity-summit-december-15-16-2009-uniting-to-support-and-defend-the-constitution/

  296. sdee Says:

    Sentinal Radio working for me now with Media Player

  297. sdee Says:

    I’ve no doubt this is an expected part of the globalist plan and Obama’s corrupt part in it, but what about the timing and process of a treaty that it would be signing away our sovereignty.

    A few places I’ve seen talk about Article 2, Section 2 which requires that the Senate approve a treaty with a 2/3rds vote. Certainly no doubts that this would not be fine with our current regime but is no one going to notice that a 2/3 Congressional vote on something as crucial as our sovereignty was bypassed? Or does this not apply here?

  298. sdee Says:

    just heard the answer to thath – – are this guys watching Rose’s blog? 😀

  299. Tenacity Says:

    sdee,
    Here’s a question for ya: Oath Keepers chose to not attend the Jekyll Island Project along with about 25 of the top liberty movement groups, all of which endorsed the Continental Congress. The Q is, given that fact, how can you take Oath Keepers seriously when they ask other orgs across the nation to set aside differences and come together? In excess of 25 organizations and many others will assemble delegates from all of the states + D.C. for TWO WEEKS in November at CC2009. It would appear to me that Oath Keepers is working harder at preserving itself than it is the republic. I would hope that I am wrong and thus challenge Oath Keepers to come out in strong support of the Continental Congress and agree to adopt the plan of action born out thereof.

  300. Bones Says:

    is anyone over at sentinel BTR right now?

  301. Bones Says:

    jrinNC Says:
    October 20, 2009 at 12:00 am

    White House Urges Other Networks to Disregard Fox News

    ————————————————————-

    This is great news! Fox is making them squirm, and they showed their hand!

  302. Troy Says:

    I am…Bones, are you in the chatroom?…BonesBoy?

  303. jrinNC Says:

    Yeah Bones I’m there

  304. Troy Says:

    There is a sneaky underhanded way to get around the 2/3 Senate vote on the treaty.

  305. sdee Says:

    I would hope that I am wrong and thus challenge Oath Keepers to come out in strong support of the Continental Congress and agree to adopt the plan of action born out thereof.
    ***************************

    That was my thought Ten.

    I asked over there about that – let’s see if I get a response.

  306. Troy Says:

    Fitzpatrick is suggesting exactly what I wrote to Terry about…We have to start asking every single military person that we see, where ever that may be, and ask them straight out, “Are you going to kill us when the government orders you to?”

  307. Bones Says:

    yeah, how’d you guess ? Heh heh.

  308. jrinNC Says:

    Troy have you had an opportunity to do that??????

  309. Tenacity Says:

    Are you guys teasing me? I have seen no sign of a chat at Sentinel.

  310. Troy Says:

    Troy have you had an opportunity to do that??????
    ******************************************
    Not yet because I haven’t encountered a uniformed soldier anywhere and I don’t personally know any active soldiers…If I see one anywhere, I don’t care where it is, I will approach and thank them for their service and then I will ask point blank, “When the people revolt against the federal government and take to the streets, are you and your fellow soldiers going to kill us when you are ordered to?”….It will knock them back on their heels and make them think and discuss it with fellow soldiers.

  311. Troy Says:

    Chatroom was packed!

  312. jrinNC Says:

    Well I am surrounded by military. I promise you I will ask one and see what their response is.

  313. Bones Says:

    Tenacity: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Sentinel_Radio/2009/10/20/Lord-Moncktons-Blogger-MissTicklys-New-Bombshell

  314. Troy Says:

    jrinNC Says:

    October 20, 2009 at 2:25 am
    Well I am surrounded by military. I promise you I will ask one and see what their response is.
    *********************************************************
    jr, we have to start asking them to know where we stand…Also, it will shock them when they are asked and promote private discussions among them on the subject…If anyone single one of them responds by saying they will follow orders, then they should be reminded of their oath to the constitution and not to the CIC and that they are obligated to not follow unlawful orders.

  315. Troy Says:

    Well, I see Tenacity found the chatroom. 😀

  316. jrinNC Says:

    Don’t worry Troy – I know what to say. I also still have many ex-coworkers who are still working directly with the military and I will get them to ask as well.

  317. Troy Says:

    This royalty thing that tickly is going off on is ridiculous…I’m embarrassed for her.

  318. jrinNC Says:

    I thought she deleted all that stuff on her blog.

  319. Troy Says:

    jrinNC Says:

    October 20, 2009 at 2:36 am
    Don’t worry Troy – I know what to say. I also still have many ex-coworkers who are still working directly with the military and I will get them to ask as well.
    ********************************************************
    It needs to become a nationwide movement!!!….Airports, grocery stores, family gatherings, etc..etc…It doesn’t matter where they are encountered, they need to be asked.

  320. sdee Says:

    Troy Says:
    This royalty thing that tickly is going off on is ridiculous…I’m embarrassed for her.
    **********************

    Once down the rabbit hole, who knows anymore.

  321. Troy Says:

    The only possible thing that could keep us from retaking our republic is the military…Without them, the government is 100% helpless and will roll over and piss all over themselves when the people take to the streets and start heading for DC.

  322. jrinNC Says:

    You are absolutely right – I am so afraid that we will not be totally prepared when the (shite) hits the fan. So many groups that are against all of this yet not cohesive at this point.

  323. Troy Says:

    not cohesive at this point.
    *********************
    You would be surprised at how spontaneously cohesion can occur.

    Think of 9/11 and how quickly people all got on the same page.

  324. jrinNC Says:

    Well I pray that will be the case. But you have to remember that we were being attacked from supposedly outside sources. It makes a difference when it comes from within. I fear many will not do anything for fear of being attacked not to mention killed. I hope that will not be the case. I know that I may be older, but I will stand with the best of them.

  325. Troy Says:

    I wonder how many state governors will stand up for their state’s citizens…If the military stands down or with us then the last resort for the gov is police…Each gov can put a stop to that.

  326. Troy Says:

    I feel sory for any blue hat UN fool that comes over here and tries to confront the citizenry…He would be looking like swiss cheese real quickly.

  327. sdee Says:

    1500 pages – that in itself is an insult to all Americans

    http://finance.senate.gov/press/Bpress/2009press/prb101909.pdf

  328. Tenacity Says:

    Red has tried to explain to me why he is so optimistic. I keep talking about communication and organization and he says that there is less chance of someone screwing it up if we are not organized. If any of you get that, help me get it through my thick skull.

  329. Troy Says:

    1500 pages – that in itself is an insult to all Americans
    ********************************************
    They can take it and shove it!

  330. Tenacity Says:

    Bones, that link you posted is where I had been shut out of chat. I went back to the generic Sentinel Radio link and hit play/chat and finally got in.

  331. Troy Says:

    Tenacity Says:

    October 20, 2009 at 3:14 am
    Red has tried to explain to me why he is so optimistic. I keep talking about communication and organization and he says that there is less chance of someone screwing it up if we are not organized. If any of you get that, help me get it through my thick skull.
    **************************************
    I’m not sure, Ten…Red some has some years of wisdom over us though.

  332. Tenacity Says:

    Troy,
    I got the impression that he believes anyone getting too big for their britches at this point might be counterproductive. Better to keep the real leaders out of the line of sight until the right moment comes.

  333. Troy Says:

    I got the impression that he believes anyone getting too big for their britches at this point might be counterproductive. Better to keep the real leaders out of the line of sight until the right moment comes.
    ***********
    I agree….It’s also a lot easier for one large group to be infiltrated than it is for many small groups.

  334. jrinNC Says:

    Ten – I feel part of it has to do with adrenaline – the shock of it. The survival instinct kicks in much faster. Of course this is my opinion.

  335. Troy Says:

    I’m extremely concerned about Orly being involved in CC2009….I trust that a small group of you will keep her in check.

  336. Troy Says:

    Ten, keep her away from the news media!!!…Hopefully CC2009 will have one and one only dedicated spokesperson to deal with the media and put their foot down in egards to unauthorized members conducting press conferences or interviews.

  337. Troy Says:

    Ten – I feel part of it has to do with adrenaline – the shock of it. The survival instinct kicks in much faster. Of course this is my opinion.
    *******************************************************
    Believe me, everyone will know when the time has arrived…There will be a shot heard aroung the world and it won’t come from us…When that happens it will be time.

  338. Troy Says:

    geez…I type like chimp. 😦

  339. Troy Says:

    Also, if we ever see the G-20 type black clad riot police unleashed on the peacefull tea party protesters, then it will be time.

  340. jrinNC Says:

    Believe me, everyone will know when the time has arrived…There will be a shot heard aroung the world and it won’t come from us…When that happens it will be time.

    **************************************************************Well all I can say in regards to that is I know we all will lose contact. I will pray for you & your families safety and hope you will do the same for me and mine. I don’t like living in fear and it is approaching much faster than I like.

  341. jrinNC Says:

    Well goodnight all, didn’t realize it was so late and I have to work tomorrow.

  342. Troy Says:

    OPERATION AMERICAN FREEDOM!

    JAG HUNTER here:

    Stephen Lumpkin, a JAG HUNTER reader from Phoenix, Arizona shared a sentiment I paraphrase below being spoken in open conversations around the nation by Armed Citizens of American that is this:

    Our Constitution is not negotiable!

    Not one single part, not ever!

    We will never back down!

    We will never surrender!

    The Second American Revolution is commenced.

    To prevail in what will become an ever escalating conflict Soetoro-Obama will have to unconstitutionally order U.S. military forces to act against U.S. Citizens on American soil.

    When that happens there is unassailable reason to believe U.S. troops will be targeting Americans in the Homeland operating jointly with foreign forces.

    read the rest here:
    http://jaghunters.blogspot.com/2009/10/operation-american-freedom.html

  343. budgy Says:

    Ten…”less chance of someone screwing it up if we are not organized. If any of you get that, help me get it through my thick skull.”
    I take this as…
    screwing it up could come from the inside or from an outside source. If you guys aren’t completely organized it would be less likely for someone to be able to counter attack. They wouldn’t want to go after the wrong person or venue and reveal their own plans. Everything will come together when the time is right. Good luck and congrats Ten. You have been doing an amazing amount of good work!

  344. igaveup Says:

    Foxtrot

    I tried using that SS at the selective service site, and got a screen that said I had already exceeded my limit in requests today. Ha. only tried once.

  345. igaveup Says:

    Troy Says:
    October 20, 2009 at 3:15 am

    1500 pages – that in itself is an insult to all Americans
    ********************************************
    They can take it and shove it!

    **ouch, that might hurt even Barney Frank. (oops) 😉

  346. Tenacity Says:

    Thanks budgy! good feedback Gang. Yeah, Red is a wise one. I’ve learned a lot from him. I really hope he makes it to St. Charles as a faculty member.

    Troy, you wouldn’t want me to try to herd cats would you ❓
    I think telling her to stay away from the press would just piss her off. Somebody (highly respected small group) will need to make it very clear what the risks are and get a commitment from her. Then give her husband a bunch of Cialis. :mrgreen:

  347. KoolAid_Free_Lexi Says:

    Wow Rose. This has been some yr for y’all. I know you might not see this and I wouldn’t blame you if you didn’t, but in case you do I hope your family can take comfort in knowing that your MIL could right now be dipping her toes into the refreshing waters of the crystal sea, gazing into a set sun we can only imagine.

    TY for keeping this place open.

    And congrats Ten.

  348. jrinNC Says:

    Very good article: The Countdown Has Begun?

    Excerpt from:

    Banking Source Warning of Potential Nuclear Device Attacks in U.S. Cities

    Dateline: Friday 10/16/2009

    The Q-Files headquarters received a phone call from a top executive within one of the largest Banking Corporations in the U.S. This source was highly concerned about specific information their Bank Corporation had received regarding …….Probable….attacks upon U.S. cities by terrorists of jihaddist orientation using nuclear devices which may already be in place or that may be delivered by kamikaze style attacks via small aircraft upon centralized target locations of those cities. The cities named by that Banking executive were New York, Chicago, Houston, Dallas, Phoenix, Jacksonville, and Tampa .

    In preparation for these potential nuclear threats upon these cities, the Banking Corporation has been instructed to set up all means to operate their Banks by executives and other personnel using secure computer systems from remote locations, to provide for potential evacuation of Bank branch employees if needed, and to take every step to protect Bank branch locations and depositors’ accounts as possible. This preparation was to be completed prior to 10/23/2009 as that begins the probable time window for these potential attacks by jihaddists or other unknown terrorist operators. This Banking source was verified as to their bonafides, ie. they are who they are. As to the list of cities and type of attacks, as well as the exact date of said probable attacks ………100% guarantees are not possible and these represent the information provided to this Banking Corporation source ostensibly from non disclosed Intelligence Community sources involved with Counter Terror operations.

    (I also found this to be very informative within the article)

    How to Survive a Nuclear Attack

    http://www.ki4u.com/survive/index.htm

    ://freepeopleontheland.wordpress.com/

  349. jrinNC Says:

    bbl

  350. Troy Says:

    Another fake birth certificate
    ************************
    WILLIAM BLAINE RELEASES PURPORTED OBAMA CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH

    http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/19/the-blaine-document/

  351. Troy Says:

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  352. joldy Says:

    HOMELAND INSECURITY
    D.C. Muslim group’s shocking al-Qaida ties
    CAIR’s terror connections extend beyond Hamas to Enemy No. 1

    Posted: October 20, 2009

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=113472

  353. sdee Says:

    Here is a non-technical article on Net Neutrality.

    I continue to be amazed at how many free market tech companies, politicians and citizens fail to see the true intent of Net Neutrality – most even support it!

    Think for a moment where we would be this very day if the FCC could cutoff internet access and content at will.

    This is the Fairness Doctrine on steriods. The FCC makes it’s stand on Thursday. Prepare to fight this.

    “” in typical Marxist fashion, innocuous words — the language of neutralism and liberty — cloak an agenda that would crush freedom.”

    ————————————-

    The modern Internet is a creation of the free market, which has brought about a revolution in communication, free speech, education, and commerce.

    New Federal Communications Commission Chairman Julius Genachowski apparently doesn’t like that. He stated last month the way Internet service providers manage their networks — in response to millions of individual consumer choices — is not sufficiently “fair,” “open” or “free.”

    The chairman’s remedy is to claim for the FCC the power to decide how every bit of data is transferred from the Web to every personal computer and handheld device in the nation. This is exactly what the radical founders of the net neutrality movement had in mind.

    The concept can be traced to an iconoclastic figure, Richard Stallman, … Stallman fiercely attacks the idea that intellectual property rights are one of the keystones of individual liberty, so important that patents and copyrights are affirmatively protected in the body of the Constitution.

    According to Stallman, “we are not required to agree with the Constitution or the Supreme Court. [At one time, they both condoned slavery.]” Like slavery, he says, copyright law is “a radical right-wing assumption rather than a traditionally recognized one.”

    Most bold and radical of the neutralists is Robert W. McChesney, founder of Free Press — the leading advocacy group in Washington pushing for net neutrality. In an August interview with a Canadian Marxist online publication called the Bullet, McChesney rejoices that net neutrality can finally bring about the Marxist “revolution.”

    Net neutrality divests control over the Internet from the private sector to the government. And in typical Marxist fashion, innocuous words — the language of neutralism and liberty — cloak an agenda that would crush freedom.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/OpEd-Contributor/_Net-Neutrality_-Is-Socialism_-Not-Freedom-8410175.html

  354. sdee Says:

    Here is the Ministry of Communications propaganda site.

    http://www.openinternet.gov/

  355. budgy Says:

    Obama’s excuses are getting lame. Complaints about Obama from the Chicago Sun newspaper. Some of the comments are quite interesting.

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/huntley/1834209,CST-EDT-HUNT20.article

  356. Troy Says:

    budgy Says:

    October 20, 2009 at 5:22 pm
    Obama’s excuses are getting lame. Complaints about Obama from the Chicago Sun newspaper. Some of the comments are quite interesting.

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/huntley/1834209,CST-EDT-HUNT20.article
    *************************************************
    Forget the comments…Vote and look at the poll results….and this is Chicago!!!!

  357. joldy Says:

    budgy Says:

    October 20, 2009 at 5:22 pm
    Obama’s excuses are getting lame. Complaints about Obama from the Chicago Sun newspaper. Some of the comments are quite interesting.

    http://go2.wordpress.com/?id=725X1342&site=rosettasister.wordpress.com&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.suntimes.com%2Fnews%2Fhuntley%2F1834209%2CCST-EDT-HUNT20.article

    Theres a poll on that page…

    POLL RESULTS ::

    Do you approve of the job President Obama has done so far?
    Yes
    6% 1124 votes
    No
    93% 15553 votes

    Total Votes: 16677

  358. Troy Says:

    U.S. sponsors plan to restrict free speech
    Joins Egyptians in proposal to United Nations Human Rights Council
    ——————————————————————————–
    Posted: October 19, 2009
    9:25 pm Eastern

    By Bob Unruh
    © 2009 WorldNetDaily

    A proposal sponsored by the Obama administration at the United Nations that purports to seek protection for “freedom of opinion and expression” actually is a call for a worldwide crackdown on freedom of speech and a mandate for nations to ensure “that relevant national legislation complies with … international human rights obligations” – a clear threat to the First Amendment, according to critics.

    The resolution was submitted recently by the United States and Egypt. It was approved by the U.N. Human Rights Council as a first step in its process through the international organization.

    It demands that all nations condemn and criminalize “any advocacy of national, racial or religious hatred that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence.”

    Steven Groves of the Heritage Foundation told WND the issue is not about free speech at all but about installing international precedents to stifle any criticism of Islam.

    Find out how Obama is planning to throttle free speech for America’s talk show hosts. Get Brad O’Leary’s ‘Shut Up, America!’ for $4.95 today only, save $21!

    WND has reported on “anti-defamation” plans at the U.N., including a proposal that would have made such speech restrictions mandatory on member states.

    (Story continues below)
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=112886

  359. budgy Says:

    Troy..thanks for pointing out the poll. I completely missed seeing that. I think I was in shock that this story was from Chicago. I voted too. 🙂

  360. cynkading Says:

    Hey people!!! I have been suffering with an abcessed tooth for about 5 days now and have been virtually useless. I am now on antibiotics and will soon be having to see an oral surgeon for some dental work. Not looking forward to this at all 😦 All I can think about is the pain. I am having to really watch what I eat. Just freaking miserable.

    I thought this story was pretty good and summed up the Nobel Peace Prize story.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/10/did_obama_swing_his_own_nobel.html

    I am missing Rose as well as the rest of you. She is such a ray of sunshine and I could use a little sunshine today……

  361. budgy Says:

    Hi cynkading…sorry to hear about your tooth. Ouch! Hope you feel better very soon

  362. budgy Says:

    Jack Tapper from ABC grilled Gibbs about their attacks on Fox.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/20/raw-data-transcript-gibbs-discussing-fox-news/

  363. cynkading Says:

    Thank you Budgy! 🙂 Kind of quiet around here. So did you listen to Terrik on BTR last night And what are your thoughts on O possibly being related to Hawaii royalty?

  364. cynkading Says:

    The royalty connection just kind of threw me for a loop. Not sure what to think about that.

  365. cynkading Says:

    I really wish Robert Gibbs would reach down and pull his lower lip over his head and go away. He is nothing more than a arrogant buffoon….Is he the best that O could get for a White House Press Secretary?

  366. budgy Says:

    lol…Gibbs wasn’t the best that O could get but he sure was the most obedient.

    In my opinion that royalty stuff at Terrik’s blog is ridiculous. A road that will lead no where.

  367. budgy Says:

    sorry to say that I miss a lot of these radio shows. I work mostly afternoon shifts with some midnights thrown in. I depend on Rose’s Gang to fill me in if anything important was said.

  368. cynkading Says:

    I do as well. There is not a better source imo, for current news. Some good investigative reporting going on here! I have listened to Ten’s show when I get the chance. But for the most part I just read.

  369. cynkading Says:

    I am afraid I have worn my sweet husband out with all of the Obama stuff. He thinks I am obssessed. Well, maybe I am but he has finally gotten on board and is paying attention. He as well as I have, had to do some fast paced catching upon the political scene and agenda that is playing out. I have always voted in elections but have never been loyal to any party. I have always voted for the person.

  370. cynkading Says:

    I guess I am talking to myself….Btw, does anyone have problems going to Obambi’s website? Everytime I try to go there my computer freezes. This has happened of many occasions. 😦

  371. cynkading Says:

    On November 15th, she’s going to be promoting Sarah Palin’s book, Going Rogue, which is already a record-breaking bestseller.

    The book drops November 16th.
    http://hillbuzz.org/2009/10/20/breaking-oprah-winfrey-good-for-something-besides-methane-production/

  372. patriotamy Says:

    Cynka, sorry about the tooth. Been there, done that!! OUCH 😦 Hope you are better soon!

  373. cynkading Says:

    Thanks Amy, I also have a wisdom tooth that is needing to come out along with a molar. Soo may have to lose 3 teeth in all. Thank goodness they are not ones that you can see! Btw, Oprah has come along ways from the days where she would not have Sarah Palin on her show but now will be promoting her book and having her as a guest.

  374. Troy Says:

    I wish Palin would not lower herself into appearing on that cow’s show.

  375. Troy Says:

    Btw, I have two wisdom teeth and a molar that need to come out too. 😦

    You are never alone at Rose’s Place. 🙂

  376. cynkading Says:

    Maybe we can go and get the group rate? 🙂

  377. Troy Says:

    No need, Obama will pay for it. 😉

  378. Troy Says:

    Check these out.

    http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=1134

  379. cynkading Says:

    Reid Leads Democrats In Carving Out Favors for States on Health

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=ao9dG2a.w8es

  380. cynkading Says:

    Is it not ironic that the Susan G. Komen conference is sanctioning the Jew hatred in the Islamic world by holding a conference where no Jews are allowed? How disgusting. Every Jewish researcher, doctor, scientist and medical professional should pull their research from Komen’s foundation.

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Who would have thought this????

  381. cynkading Says:

    ‘Climate Change’ Treaty: The Supreme Law Of The Land? Or Lawless Usurpation?

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/15969

  382. cynkading Says:

    Boy is it quiet round here!!!!Where are all the peeps?

  383. jrinNC Says:

    Anybody having puter problems today???????? I have been working on mine since about 3:00 et

  384. patriotamy Says:

    Troy says:
    *************************************************
    Forget the comments…Vote and look at the poll results….and this is Chicago!!!!
    *************************************************
    UPDATE ON THE POLL RESULTS ::

    Do you approve of the job President Obama has done so far?

    Yes
    5% 2046 votes
    No
    94% 32426 votes

    Total Votes: 34472

  385. jrinNC Says:

    You can be good without God, Denham tells church leaders

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oct/20/denham-morality-church-leaders

    **********************************************************
    This will be the mindset of the NWO. One religion, but not in worship of God.

  386. Goferit Says:

    Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
    Tuesday, October 20, 2009

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 28% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President.

    Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -12. The Approval Index rating has been lower only on two days since the current President took office (see trends).

  387. jrinNC Says:

    Hezbollah Gets SCUDS

    http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htart/articles/20091019.aspx
    **********************************************************
    Just what Israel needs.

  388. jrinNC Says:

    PM warns of climate ‘catastrophe’

    Brown: ’50 days to save world’

    The UK faces a “catastrophe” of floods, droughts and killer heatwaves if world leaders fail to agree a deal on climate change, the prime minister has warned.

    Gordon Brown said negotiators had 50 days to save the world from global warming and break the “impasse”.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8313672.stm
    ********************************************************
    Why are these people using such scare tactics. I know why – they want that NWO and nothing less.

  389. Tenacity Says:

    jrinNC,
    The Holy Spirit once gave me the definition of “good”. As you know, Yeshua once said that only God is good. What did He mean by that? The definition given to me was, “that which sustains you eternally.” In other words, that which consumes you is sin and that which sustains you is good. Hence, sin leads to death…good results in life eternal. The presence of God sustains us and nothing else can. The ultimate hell is the absence of God, for without him we are left with only self. God is a consuming fire in that he consumes that which leads to death and thus sustains us. To deny this makes one a fool. Let those who have ears hear.

  390. jrinNC Says:

    Ten – that is a very good definition. Maybe you should send that definition to that Denham guy 🙂 I just can’t believe he said the following:
    “… it was possible to be good without God and challenged the assumption that faith organisations alone were responsible for “defining, shaping and transmitting values”.

  391. jrinNC Says:

    Hey Troy – this was posted over at CW but I didn’t understand what it meant: “Great news about Leo. I’m sure his family is thrilled beyond belief.” Do you know???

  392. joldy Says:

    Georgia congressman David Scott yells at Dr. Brian
    Hill for asking a question about health care.

    Video here
    http://citizenwells.com/

  393. Troy Says:

    Hey Troy – this was posted over at CW but I didn’t understand what it meant: “Great news about Leo. I’m sure his family is thrilled beyond belief.” Do you know???
    **************************
    I believe he is talking about Leo Haffey.

  394. Bones Says:

    Perhaps this: http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-chat/2366893/posts

  395. joldy Says:

    ? Is Leo out of jail!?

  396. Fae Says:

    cynkading Says:
    October 20, 2009 at 6:40 pm
    __________________________________
    I feel so bad for you with your tooth problem. I want to give
    you hope that it isn’t so bad!

  397. Bones Says:

    Or this? http://www.allmilitary.com/board/viewtopic.php?id=26055

    I just can’t keep up anymore… 😦

  398. Troy Says:

    Hi Fae!

  399. Bones Says:

    Yeah, it was Leo Haffey: CW said:

    **** Leo Haffey update ****

    I received a message from Haffey’s wife.
    It appears Leo will get out of jail on Friday.
    She said that the judge was nice. (Judge Eisenstein was on docket)

  400. Troy Says:

    Bones Says:

    October 21, 2009 at 1:53 am
    Or this? http://www.allmilitary.com/board/viewtopic.php?id=26055

    I just can’t keep up anymore…
    **************************
    Bones, that’s the same old April Fools day story.

  401. Troy Says:

    Hooray for Haffey!!!

  402. Troy Says:

    I just came home from the corner store about 15 minutes ago and there was a deer standing in my driveway. 😀

  403. Troy Says:

    jr, did you get the live trap set tonight for the opossum?

  404. patriotamy Says:

    Troy Says:
    October 21, 2009 at 2:05 am

    I just came home from the corner store about 15 minutes ago and there was a deer standing in my driveway. 😀
    ****************************************
    Such a thrill, no matter how many times it happens.

  405. Troy Says:

    Such a thrill, no matter how many times it happens.
    ********************************************
    What is really weird is that when I saw coming down the main drag of the subdivision, I thought to myself that I should keep my eyes on the roadsides in case a deer were to jump in front of my truck…It just felt like a good night for deer to be out…I pull in the driveway and WAH LA!!

  406. cynkading Says:

    Thank you Fae and welcome to Rose’s place.

  407. sdee Says:

    DOJ overturns Local Voting Law in Kinston NC

    “”Voters in this small city decided overwhelmingly last year to do away with the party affiliation of candidates in local elections, but the Obama administration recently overruled the electorate and decided that equal rights for black voters cannot be achieved without the Democratic Party.

    The department ruled that white voters in Kinston will vote for blacks only if they are Democrats and that therefore the city cannot get rid of party affiliations for local elections because that would violate black voters’ right to elect the candidates they want.”

    huh?

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/20/justice-dept-blocks-ncs-nonpartisan-vote/?feat=home_cube_position1#

  408. sdee Says:

    Troy posted something a while back about 3 Percenters. I ran across this:

    http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/08/back-by-popular-demand-what-is-three.html

  409. sdee Says:

    Ten, no response over on Oath Keepers responded to my question about aligning with CC2009. Has someone already had the discussion with no avail?

  410. jrinNC Says:

    jr, did you get the live trap set tonight for the opossum?
    ********************************************************
    Sure do Troy – but I think I have some sad news – my feral kitty is GONE – boohoo 😦 I called and called tonight for him. He always shows up – but not tonight.

  411. cynkading Says:

    We will not disarm.

    You cannot convince us.

    You cannot intimidate us.

    You can try to kill us, if you think you can.

    But remember, we’ll shoot back.

    And we are not going away.

    Your move.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Nuff said Sdee!

  412. jrinNC Says:

    DOJ overturns Local Voting Law in Kinston NC
    ***************************************************
    sdee that is the most stupid thing I have ever heard of. They know who the candidates are regardless of party affiliation.

    I WANT TO SCREAM I AM SICK OF BO

  413. jrinNC Says:

    By the way Hello Fae and welcome

  414. Troy Says:

    Sure do Troy – but I think I have some sad news – my feral kitty is GONE – boohoo I called and called tonight for him. He always shows up – but not tonight.
    ********************************
    Awww…Maybe he is just out cat daddying around. 🙂

  415. sdee Says:

    Sharia law is creeping into some Iraqi cities……..

    The problem lies with constitution itself. When the new charter was adopted, religious minorities, especially Christians, had pointed out its ambiguities.

    “It guarantees respect for religious freedoms, but at the same time in Article 6 establishes that no law can be adopted that is contrary to the Muslim religion,”

    ” The constitution, for example, “does not envisage in any concrete way how to guarantee equality between men and women, regulate polygamy or the right to convert, something which is banned by Islam but which pertains to the realm of freedom of conscience.”

    For the prelate, there is a risk thatwhen Sharia was imposed on the entire population.”

    http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=16634&size=A

  416. KoolAid_Free_Lexi Says:

    Troy Says:

    October 20, 2009 at 9:09 pm
    I wish Palin would not lower herself into appearing on that cow’s show.
    ******
    I’m w/ you, Troy.

  417. igaveup Says:

    Troy and Lexi

    ditto my wish that Palin wouldn’t appear on it.

  418. igaveup Says:

    Troy Says:
    October 21, 2009 at 2:05 am

    I just came home from the corner store about 15 minutes ago and there was a deer standing in my driveway. 😀

    **What did he want? 😉

  419. jrinNC Says:

    cat daddying around
    *****************************************************
    As long as he doesn’t bring anyone home with him that is OK 😉

  420. sdee Says:

    Isalmist for Govenor of Texas

    Farouk Shami……
    he’s running for Governor of Texas, as a Democrat (though he has a lot of close Republican friends, including Texas Governor Rick Perry and Texas U.S. Senate candidate/Houston Mayor Bill White, both of whom he recently hosted at his home. And Shami has been heavily promoted, via several disgustingly gushing softball interviews, on FOX Business Channel

    He says we Americans have too much, and it’s “not fair” to the Mexicans.

    And he’s for open borders and illegal alien amnesty on our own borders.

    http://www.debbieschlussel.com/10366/jihad-hair-products-meet-texas-dems-palestinian-muslim-gov-candidate/

  421. Troy Says:

    **What did he want?
    ******************
    I don’t know, but SHE was holding a NOBAMA sign. 😀

  422. Troy Says:

    sdee Says:

    October 21, 2009 at 3:18 am
    Isalmist for Govenor of Texas

    Farouk Shami……
    he’s running for Governor of Texas, as a Democrat (though he has a lot of close Republican friends, including Texas Governor Rick Perry and Texas U.S. Senate candidate/Houston Mayor Bill White, both of whom he recently hosted at his home. And Shami has been heavily promoted, via several disgustingly gushing softball interviews, on FOX Business Channel

    He says we Americans have too much, and it’s “not fair” to the Mexicans.

    And he’s for open borders and illegal alien amnesty on our own borders.
    **********************************************************
    He doen’t stand a snowball’s chance in HELL here in Texas, trust me on that one….If the word gets out that these other two are pals with him then they can kiss their political careers goodbye.

  423. sdee Says:

    Troy Says:

    October 20, 2009 at 9:09 pm
    I wish Palin would not lower herself into appearing on that cow’s show.
    ********************
    I am with you guys on this.

    For now though I am going to trust Palin’s instincts and hope she does not have shysters in her camp like the GOP handlers McCain’s whacked her with.

  424. Troy Says:

    Palin’s willingness to suck up to that bloated cow is a sign that she is becomming a typical politician and a sell out…Her supporters need to speak up LOUDLY!!!

  425. sdee Says:

    Troy Says:
    He doen’t stand a snowball’s chance in HELL here in Texas, trust me on that one….If the word gets out that these other two are pals with him then they can kiss their political careers goodbye.
    ***********************

    Sht like this shows the their true colors – politicians will sell out anything for support. They are fools not to realize an arrangement with the Muslims is a deal with the devil.

    Maybe Texas needs to know more about who Perry and White are pal’ing around with.

  426. igaveup Says:

    Even the deer have a higher IQ than Obama supporters.

  427. igaveup Says:

    jrinNC Says:
    October 20, 2009 at 12:07 pm

    Very good article: The Countdown Has Begun?

    Excerpt from:

    Banking Source Warning of Potential Nuclear Device Attacks in U.S. Cities

    Dateline: Friday 10/16/2009

    **JC, I can’t seem to find a link to that article. Being as I live in the burbs of Phoenix and illegals immigrants are free to come and go, I would like to find this article.

    Thanks

  428. jrinNC Says:

    igaveup – it is in the article The Countdown has begun.

  429. jrinNC Says:

    oops sorry you wanted the link

    www://freepeopleontheland.wordpress.com/

  430. jrinNC Says:

    gee it is almost midnight here and since I am not comprehending correctly 🙂 I will say good night to all.

  431. Troy Says:

  432. Troy Says:

    Obama’s long-form Certificate of Live Birth .. from AIPNews .. looks legitimate (must check this out)

    http://www.repubx.com/

  433. Troy Says:

  434. igaveup Says:

    Jr

    thanks

    today i’m not comprehending too well either. no caffeine, no sleep, and just too much to take in.

  435. jrinNC Says:

    don’t remember if this was ever posted or not

  436. Katie Says:

    Well, at least this will brighten our day – could it be America is awakening???

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 27% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -13. That’s just a point above the lowest level ever recorded for this President. It’s also the sixth straight day in negative double digits, matching the longest such streak (see trends).

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

  437. jrinNC Says:

  438. cynkading Says:

    Obama gets a flu shot, but not for swine flu
    By Rob Stein
    President Obama received a seasonal flu shot Tuesday afternoon, a White House official said. A White House physician administered the shot while accompanying the president on a trip to New York, where he is attending fund-raisers for the Democratic Party and a House candidate.

    The first lady and Obama girls had received their seasonal flu vaccines previously.

    The seasonal flu shot does not vaccinate against the H1N1 swine flu virus, and Obama is not in one of the groups — such as pregnant women, health-care workers and those under age 24 — designated as high-priority for receiving the scarce H1N1 vaccine.

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2009/10/20/obama_gets_a_flu_shot_but_not.html?wprss=44

  439. jrinNC Says:

    cynka – wonder why?????? he has not gotten the H1N1 yet since it is available

  440. Katie Says:

    How do you tell when obama is lying? (All together now…) his lips are moving.

    7 lies is under two minutes –

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/10/record-lies-in-record-time.html

  441. cynkading Says:

  442. joldy Says:

    Constitution Party Puts Weight Behind Camp FEMA
    Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:55 AM
    From:
    “FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:”
    Add sender to Contacts

    To:
    “orly taitz”
    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:

    Constitution Party Puts Weight Behind Camp FEMA
    New Documentary Film to Premier at National Party Conference as Canadians Storm Camp FEMA at Toronto Premier
    Columbia, MO – October 21, 2009 – Among gifted speakers like Tom Tancredo and Chuck Baldwin at this years 2009 Constitution Party National Committee Conference, attendees will also get their first peak at the popular new patriot film “Camp FEMA.” Jim Clymer Constitution Party National Committee Chairman says “Camp FEMA shows just how far into tyranny our government has taken us. This highly compelling work is a must- see for all who wish to retain liberty and who refuse to become slaves of the state.”

    Mary Starrett, National Political Communications Director of the Constitution Party, said she plans to get the DVD into the hands of any many people as possible and is tasked with introducing Camp FEMA to the CP’s individual state parties. Special announcements and informal screenings of the movie will take place throughout the convention starting on October 23rd thanks to Mary who enthusiastically proclaims “Camp FEMA is a must have.”

    Writer/Director William Lewis said “The movie speaks candidly to the heart of every third party supporter in America and asks one simple question, Will you go Quietly?” Producer Gary Franchi points to a sold out audience for the Camp FEMA Toronto premiere that puts everything into perspective. He stated, “If the United States falls, then so does the rest of the world. That includes our neighbors to the north.” Patrick Whyte who hosted the Conspiracy Culture’s Canadian screening, stated a couple of days after the event that the movie has spread by word of mouth throughout their community driving phone traffic from eager Canadians who want to see the film.

    CP Chair Jim Clymer says, “Watch it, share it with others and spread the word that it is time to end the charade that the parties in power have our best interests in mind.”

    If you’re planning to attend the CP Convention, make sure you don’t miss out on a chance to watch Camp FEMA. If you’re in the Austin, Texas area, make sure to catch a screening at Brave New Books, November 4th, 7:30 PM. The producers will be there for a Q&A afterwards. The word on the street is that a special guest featured in Camp FEMA may show up for a special meet and greet.

    Camp FEMA presents hard-core documentation, fact analysis, and investigation that takes internment camps off of the Internet and places them squarely in our own hometowns. With the introduction of HR645 (FEMA Emergency Camps), the intent of our leaders in Washington is clear. We must act now.

    Camp FEMA can be watched online and discussed in the forums at

    http://www.campfema.com

  443. Katie Says:

    Will they support freedom or will they support a dictator in the making? (so far this admininstration supports dictatorships. Hmmm…)

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/10/obamas-poisonous-fruit-nicaraguas-ortega-nullifies-constitutional-law-paves-way-for-dictator-for-lif.html

  444. jrinNC Says:

    Rose in case you are peeping – Remembering you and Bill today during the wake services and will again remember you tomorrow during services. May God touch you with understanding and comfort during this time.

  445. cynkading Says:

    Sorry Katie did not know we were on to the same thing. 🙂 Jr, someone needs to ask him why he is holding out on us and not getting his H1N1.

  446. Katie Says:

    No worries, cynkading. Great minds… 🙂

    Hope you’re feeling better soon!

  447. Katie Says:

    Troy – one of your favorite sites is back!

    Explaining the month subscription fee (now removed)
    by DefendUSx October 20, 2009 12:39

    Hello everyone. I apologize to those who tried signing-up through PayPal only to receive a message that my e-mail was invalid.

    It’s funny how i can log into PayPal with that very same e-mail address and receive their messages at that account, yet it is not valid. It was valid for Donations before, but now not for Subscriptions?

    It was also valid very early this morning that allowed the first sign-up, and then … very early in the morning after the first sign-up, it becomes invalid. Go figure!

    In any case, i have removed and will only ask for Donations. I do know that some Washington minions monitor this site, as they have done so for months, and this was an easy way to filter them out. You see, they’ll use other people’s money for their personal gain, but will never spend their own.

    Another reason was for some income so i could attend to this site, as i have lost my most recent job and am wondering if it had to do with this blog. The same company, Lexis Nexus, i was doing a project for, also pulled their commericials from Glenn Beck (when he called Obama a racist), and also from Lou Dobbs, when asking about the birth certificate. Lexis Nexus owns lawyers.com. I can only wonder and can’t be certain, but do know as of last week, everything was good.

    Another reason i was starting to charge for this site is to give it some capital advantage. The George Soros and White House media propaganda organ sites are well funded by our tax-payer money.

    The “Free Press” sites, at least mine, do not have that advantage. It is advantage that must be taken away, at least to some level as to compete in some capacity.

    The Net Neutrality BS is going to be pushed soon .. and may not even require Congress to have a chance to vote on, as the FCC was made King of communications by Obama and rubber-stamp Congress with unprecedented powers through the Stimulus I debacle. Like the FCC recent blog regulations .. the slippery slope that will surely and eventually result in losses in freedom of speech, only took four votes to put into effect at the FCC.

    I’m just issuing a fair warning out there to free press sites, if you don’t make adjustments now, your site will be “off the air”.

    http://www.repubx.com/

  448. cynkading Says:

    Frankly, I am miserable. I can’t eat very well, can’t sleep and I just feel rotten. I am at this thime without enough energy to get much of anything done. 😦 Thank you for asking. I can’t get into see anyone for about 2 weeks. Besides no one will touch me until I have been on antibiotics for 7-10 days………………..I am not a pain pill person so I am just trying to deal with it along with some ibuprofin.

  449. jrinNC Says:

    Katie – thanks for the update on repubx. But i am beginning to worry that what repubx stated will come true. Then what will we do?????? I know that discussions started a few threads back for some kind of contingency plan. I personally would like to stay in contact with everyone so that we can remain informed based on the different areas we live in. I do have access to short wave radio, but I am sure many here do not.

    Troy, put on your thinking cap for emergency planning.

  450. cynkading Says:

    Wow Katie, so what will this net neutrality business do to blogs like Rose’s? I know that you can only give an opinion since we have never traveled this road before in our country.

  451. jrinNC Says:

    cynka – I know exactly how you feel. I went thru something similar a couple of years ago. I was totally miserable also. I did get some additional relief with a heating pad on my face and using hot wet cloths. Also you need to keep rinsing your mouth with as hot of water and salt that you can stand. That will also give some relief.

  452. cynkading Says:

    Jr, all I have is an emergency radio. 😦 Jr, you got that possum yet?

  453. cynkading Says:

    Brb, gonna take your advice Jr with the hot salt water.

  454. jrinNC Says:

    No critter yet. Haven’t seen him at all. Maybe when I beat him almost to death he got the message 🙂

    Also, my feral kitty showed up this morning. Bless his heart he was hungry. Don’t know where he went, I don’t think he is on the prowl yet. But there was a cat in my yard last night on my porch and I think he ate my kitty’s food. I have seen it before as it belongs to a neighbor about 1/2 mile up the road. Also, my outside kitty runs from him, so maybe he was hiding or that cat ran him away. Maybe I will catch that cat in my trap and when I do I will take him to them and tell them – keep your cat at home because next time I take it to the pound.

  455. jrinNC Says:

    bbl – gotta run to town

  456. Troy Says:

    New ACORN Sting Video: Philly! (VIDEO FIXED)

    I went to college literally five or six blocks from this ACORN office at Temple University. I’m not shocked, given the neighborhoods of that area, that this goes on.

    They utterly DESTROY the tapestry of lies the ACORN worker and the leftwing apologists and ACORN defenders put forth in the press. Notice that Media Matters was all too eager to help spread these lies, and how the mainstream press flacks repeat the lies told to Media Matters. Over. And over.

    These leftwing “activists” are terminally afflicted with an inability to tell the truth. Are you shocked yet?

    Remember the “police report” this office filed? That they “kicked out” James and Hannah? Yeah – didn’t exactly happen that way. To paraphrase the immortal words of the much-maligned Joe Wilson, “YOU LIE, ACORN.”

    http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/199312.php

  457. Troy Says:

  458. Tenacity Says:

    sdee,
    Oath Keepers is doing a wonderful thing, but people have their own perceptions and their own agendas. Each group tends to say come over here or look what I’m doing. They don’t understand or take seriously “the whole is greater than the sum of the parts” concept. They each need funding…they each seek attention. Most of the groups, like OKs has something unique and valuable to offer. However, when they preach unity and then fail to practice what they preach, they reveal their own hypocrisy. When they call for a rally of other groups, yet don’t fully support a substantial gathering of the forces already organized, they effectively take away from the whole rather than add to it. The Continental Congress has grown far beyond any one group or person. It is timely and is The constitutional answer to “what is the next step a free people should do.” CC2009 is not just another “talk fest.” Anyone saying that is either misinformed or an agent provocateur. Rhodes is not a delegate. Others associated with OK possibly are delegates. Rhodes needs to publicly voice his support, offer to speak at CC2009 and commit to participating in the strategic plan born out of CC2009. OK is certainly supported and encouraged by We The People Foundation and their voice/ideas are invited and considered of high value.

  459. Tenacity Says:

    Cynka,
    MMS works on diseased gums. Used in the mouth in conjunction with DMSO, MMS has effectively treated abscess. One of the first effects is the reduction of pain. The DMSO is used to penetrate the gum and carries the MMS into the abscess. Watch the Jim Humble interview at Project Camelot where Jim talks about this. Then go to www .JimHumble.biz and look up the protocol http://jimhumble.biz/biz-mouthandgum.htm You can take MMS while taking antibiotics, but you will soon find that the antibiotics will no longer be needed if you are taking MMS.

  460. cynkading Says:

    thank you Ten, I will need to order some asap!

  461. cynkading Says:

    Fraudster Bernie Madoff ‘had so much cocaine in his office it was dubbed the North Pole’

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1221984/Fraudster-Bernie-Madoff-cocaine-office-dubbed-North-Pole.html#ixzz0UagooO5z

  462. patriotamy Says:

    cynkading, in the meantime the warm salt water works pretty well. I have used that. You can also intermittantly use ice packs and heating pad on the jaw. (Home remedies sometimes work as fast or faster than medications from the doctor.)

  463. cynkading Says:

    All I know is it is going to be a looooong 2 weeks 😦

  464. Troy Says:

    No big surprise here.
    *****************
    Kerchner V Obama, Update, October 21, 2009, Charles Kerchner, Mario Apuzzo, Judge Simandle Has Granted the DOJ Motion to Dismiss
    October 21, 2009 · 6 Comments
    Just in from Charles Kerchner of Kerchner V Obama, October 21, 2009:

    Wednesday, October 21, 2009

    Judge Simandle Has Granted the DOJ’s Motion to Dismiss
    Re. Kerchner et al vs. Obama & Congress et al lawsuit filed January 20th, 2009.

    Judge Simandle Has Granted the DOJ’s Motion to Dismiss. We will appeal.
    http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2009/10/judge-simandle-has-granted-dojs-motion.html

    Attorney Mario Apuzzo called me a few minutes ago. Judge Simandle has granted the DOJ’s motion to dismiss. More on this later. Mario will post some initial comments in the blog but he still has to read the Judge’s decision in full. I also need to read the full decision. But we will definitely appeal.

    Like in the Battle of Long Island in the Revolutionary War, we have lost a battle. But we have not lost the war. The real decision on this will ultimately be made by the U.S. Supreme Court on the real crux of this matter … which is a legal issue, i.e., the legal question of what is a Natural Born Citizen per Article II of our Constitution per original intent, and is Obama one. I say he is not. Read this as to why:

    Attorney Apuzzo will comment further once he has had a chance to read the full decision.

    We have lost at this initial step. But now Attorney Apuzzo can move the case up the ladder in the court system and file an appeal.

    Charles F. Kerchner, Jr.
    CDR USNR (Ret)
    Lead Plaintiff
    Kerchner v Obama & Congress
    http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2009/10/21/kerchner-v-obama-update-october-21-2009-charles-kerchner-mario-apuzzo-judge-simandle-has-granted-the-doj-motion-to-dismiss/

  465. Troy Says:

    *****************
    Kerchner V Obama, Update, October 21, 2009, Charles Kerchner, Mario Apuzzo, Judge Simandle Has Granted the DOJ Motion to Dismiss
    October 21, 2009 · 6 Comments
    Just in from Charles Kerchner of Kerchner V Obama, October 21, 2009:

    Wednesday, October 21, 2009

    Judge Simandle Has Granted the DOJ’s Motion to Dismiss
    Re. Kerchner et al vs. Obama & Congress et al lawsuit filed January 20th, 2009.

    Judge Simandle Has Granted the DOJ’s Motion to Dismiss. We will appeal.

    Attorney Mario Apuzzo called me a few minutes ago. Judge Simandle has granted the DOJ’s motion to dismiss. More on this later. Mario will post some initial comments in the blog but he still has to read the Judge’s decision in full. I also need to read the full decision. But we will definitely appeal.

    Like in the Battle of Long Island in the Revolutionary War, we have lost a battle. But we have not lost the war. The real decision on this will ultimately be made by the U.S. Supreme Court on the real crux of this matter … which is a legal issue, i.e., the legal question of what is a Natural Born Citizen per Article II of our Constitution per original intent, and is Obama one. I say he is not. Read this as to why:

    Attorney Apuzzo will comment further once he has had a chance to read the full decision.

    We have lost at this initial step. But now Attorney Apuzzo can move the case up the ladder in the court system and file an appeal.

    Charles F. Kerchner, Jr.
    CDR USNR (Ret)
    Lead Plaintiff
    Kerchner v Obama & Congress
    http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2009/10/21/kerchner-v-obama-update-october-21-2009-charles-kerchner-mario-apuzzo-judge-simandle-has-granted-the-doj-motion-to-dismiss/

  466. Troy Says:

  467. Troy Says:

    Remember the TARP Money? Yeah, It’s Gone.

    Posted by Leon H. Wolf (Profile)

    Wednesday, October 21st at 1:39PM EDT

    A Treasury Department watchdog is warning that a key $700 billion bailout program has damaged the government’s credibility, won’t earn taxpayers all their money back and has done little to change a culture of recklessness on Wall Street.

    “The American people’s belief that the funds went into a black hole, or that there was a transfer of wealth from taxpayers to Wall Street, is one of the worst outcomes of this program, and that is the reputational damage to the government,” said Neil Barofsky, special inspector general of the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP), in an interview.

    ***

    “We don’t even know where the money went,” says Rep. Daniel Lipinski, D-Ill., who recently called for TARP assistance to end in December, when it’s set to expire. The Treasury has the authority to extend the program until next October.

    The report criticized Treasury’s implementation of the program and its lack of transparency, making 41 recommendations, 18 of which were implemented. Barofsky says it’s “extremely unlikely” that taxpayers will recover the $77 billion committed to the ailing auto industry or the $60 billion in TARP assistance to American International Group as part of a pledge of up to $180 billion in aid. An additional $50 billion to modify unaffordable home mortgages “will yield no direct return.”

    I counted myself among the supporters of TARP as it was described and sold to the public; i.e., as a program whereby the government would purchase troubled assets that were causing liquidity problems that threatened economic stability. Neither I nor anyone else I have ever met supported the way TARP has been implemented; as a massive slush fund boondoggle for corporations favored by the White House. And now, mere months after throwing all this money around, the oversight body for the program is frankly admitting that we’re never going to see most of this money ever again (but in exchange, we did buy government control over Corvette production!). What a crock.

    Democrats in Congress have a chance to end Geithner’s reckless control over billions of dollars of taxpayer money, but they must act fast. My guess is that they’ll be too busy trying to give the Obama administration control over trillions more taxpayer dollars through his healthcare plan to even try.

    http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2009/10/21/remember-the-tarp-money-yeah-its-gone/

  468. Troy Says:

    America’s Phoney War in Afghanistan
    by DefendUSx October 21, 2009 13:24
    by F. William Engdahl of Global Research

    One of the most remarkable aspects of the Obama Presidential agenda is how little anyone has questioned in the media or elsewhere why at all the United States Pentagon is committed to a military occupation of Afghanistan. There are two basic reasons, neither one of which can be admitted openly to the public at large.

    Behind all the deceptive official debate over how many troops are needed to “win” the war in Afghanistan, whether another 30,000 is sufficient, or whether at least 200000 are needed, the real purpose of US military presence in that pivotal Central Asian country is obscured.

    Even during the 2008 Presidential campaign candidate Obama argued that Afghanistan not Iraq was where the US must wage war. His reason? Because he claimed, that was where the Al Qaeda organization was holed up and that was the “real” threat to US national security. The reasons behind US involvement in Afghanistan is quite another one.

    The US military is in Afghanistan for two reasons. First to restore and control the world’s largest supply of opium for the world heroin markets and to use the drugs as a geopolitical weapon against opponents, especially Russia. That control of the Afghan drug market is essential for the liquidity of the bankrupt and corrupt Wall Street financial mafia.

    more here: http://www.repubx.com/

  469. ryansgrammy Says:

    cynka — sorry to hear about your tooth–so painful!!

  470. Troy Says:

    Video Part one (0-1:56): The RCMP built and exploded a bomb similar to the one that the Toronto 18 cell was allegedly tried to build.

    Part two (1:57-7:22): The RCMP caught members of the group unloading bags of ammonium nitrate.

    Part three (7:23-8:07): Footage of one of the Toronto 18 members trying a remote detonator was also seized by investigators

    Part four (8:08-9:12): An alternate view of the test explosion shows that the explosion would have done significant damage.

  471. Troy Says:

    BRAMPTON — The two scrawny terrorists are unloading bags labeled ammonium nitrate from the back of a delivery truck when one of them looks up and recoils in shock, while his partner backs into a wall and raises his hands in surrender.

    A four-member police tactical team dressed all in black descends, laying them spread-eagled on the floor of the warehouse and cuffing their hands behind their backs before one of the officers raises his thumb to say mission accomplished.

    The dramatic arrests of Saad Khalid and Saad Gaya, members of the “Toronto 18” terrorist group that was planning to detonate truck bombs in downtown Toronto, was captured on a video released on Tuesday by the court. (see above)

    The video is among dozens of Crown exhibits that form the case against Zakaria Amara, who admitted on Oct. 8 he was the leader of the bomb plot. An Ontario judge approved their release, allowing Canadians to view them for the first time.

    The videos show the terrorists testing an electronic detonator and meeting in the dark. Also released was a video of a test explosion conducted by the RCMP, which built and detonated a bomb using the same formula as the terrorists. The result is a huge blast that flipped a metal shipping container.

    The Toronto 18 were homegrown al-Qaeda-inspired terrorists who attended a training camp north of Toronto and planned attacks in southern Ontario they hoped would force Canada to withdraw its troops from Afghanistan.

    “The eventual plan for which the group was training was an attack which would cripple infrastructure and involved attacking Parliament and blowing up truck bombs,” reads an agreed statement of facts that forms part of Amara’s guilty plea.

    Also released on Tuesday were messages the terrorists exchanged in thumb drives in an attempt to avoid police surveillance. In one of them, Amara tells his accomplice to conduct reconnaissance in Toronto using a camera.

    “Don’t do anything too suspicious. Just check out everywhere, you known downtown. Check different places just uh, oh yeah and also for the chemical set like I told you I need a filter, I need Pyrex, I need something to weigh, for weighing, you know.”

    Amara’s rambling instructions on planning the attack are interspersed with religious tracts such as, “God all mighty says in the Koran…instructing the faithful that when they meet a group of non-believers or when they are battling they should remember God a lot and that will keep them, God willing, being steadfast.”

    Amara, 24, pleaded to two counts of terrorism and is to be sentenced in January. Khalid, Gaya and Ali Dirie have also pleaded guilty and another man, Nishanthan Yogakrishnan, was convicted. Another six are awaiting trial.

    A Mississauga gas jockey, Amara revealed his plans to an undercover police agent, telling him the plot involved renting three U-Haul vans and packing them with explosives. The vans were to be parked at the Toronto Stock Exchange, the CSIS regional office on Front Street and at a military base between Toronto and Ottawa.

    The bombs were to be detonated remotely at about 9 a.m. in mid-November, 2006. Police arrested the group on June 2, 2006, before the attacks could be carried out.

    A judge said the men were motivated by an extremist interpretation of Islam that portrayed Canada as a “near enemy.”

    http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/toronto/archive/2009/10/20/toronto-18-videos-show-group-s-deadly-plan.aspx

  472. Troy Says:

    23 states report higher unemployment in September
    Oct 21 12:31 PM US/Eastern
    By CHRISTOPHER S. RUGABER

    WASHINGTON (AP) – Unemployment rose in 23 states last month as the economy struggled to create jobs in the early stages of the recovery.
    While layoffs have slowed, companies remain reluctant to hire. Forty-three states reported job losses in September, while only seven gained jobs, the Labor Department said Wednesday.

    Some of the states that lost jobs still saw their unemployment rates decline, as discouraged workers gave up looking for work. People who are out of work but no longer looking for jobs aren’t counted as officially unemployed.

    That trend was evident nationwide in September, as nearly 600,000 people dropped out of the work force, the department reported earlier this month.

    The U.S. jobless rate rose to 9.8 percent in September, a 26-year high, from 9.7 percent. Some economists estimate it would have topped 10 percent if there had been no change in the labor force.

    There were some bright spots in Wednesday’s report. The Midwest region, hit hard during the recession by job losses in manufacturing, saw its unemployment rate drop for the second straight month, to 9.8 percent from 10 percent in August. It was the only region where the unemployment rate declined.

    The Midwest benefited from sharp drops in unemployment in Indiana and Ohio. Indiana’s jobless rate fell to 9.6 percent, from 9.9 percent in August and 10.7 percent in June.

    Indiana added 4,400 jobs, the most of any state, due to gains in the manufacturing and service sectors.

    Ohio, meanwhile, saw its jobless rate drop to 10.1 percent, from 10.8 percent in August and 11.2 percent in July.

    Still, Ohio lost about 6,000 jobs in September, and much of the improvement in its unemployment rate came from discouraged workers leaving the work force.

    Nevada, Rhode Island and Florida last month posted their highest jobless rates on records dating to 1976, the department said. Fifteen states and Washington, D.C., reported unemployment rates of 10 percent or more.

    Michigan reported the nation’s highest unemployment rate at 15.3 percent. It was followed by Nevada at 13.3 percent, Rhode Island at 13 percent, California at 12.2 percent and South Carolina at 11.6 percent.

    Real estate continues to bedevil states that enjoyed a housing boom. Florida’s jobless rate rose to 11 percent from 10.8 percent in August, as the state lost nearly 13,000 construction jobs. California lost 39,300 jobs, including more than 14,000 in construction. Nevada lost 3,500 construction jobs, though it boosted employment in services.

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9BFJEQG2&show_article=1

  473. Troy Says:

    Deserted shopping mall bleak symbol of Fed bailout
    Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:33pm BST

    OKLAHOMA CITY (Reuters) – A $29 billion trail from the Federal Reserve’s bailout of Wall Street investment bank Bear Stearns ends in a partially deserted shopping center on a bleak spot on the south side of Oklahoma City.

    The Fed now owns the Crossroads Mall, a sprawling shopping complex at the junction of Interstate highways 244 and 35, complete with an oil well pumping crude in the parking lot — except the Fed does not own the mineral rights.

    The Fed finds itself in the unusual situation of being an Oklahoma City landlord after it lent JPMorgan Chase $29 billion to buy Bear Stearns last year.

    That money was secured by a portfolio of Bear assets. Crossroads Mall is the only bricks and mortar acquired through bailout. The remaining billions are tied up in invisible securities spread across hundreds, if not thousands, of properties.

    It is hard to be precise because the Fed has not published specifics on what it now owns. The only reason that Crossroads Mall has surfaced is that it went into foreclosure in April.

    Noah Diggs, who had just successfully concluded a search for work here as a shop assistant, was surprised and somewhat alarmed to learn the U.S. central bank now owned the property.

    “That is a bad thing, right?” he said, surveying the empty parking lot on a rainy morning in early October.

    Public anger over the bailout of rich Wall Street bankers has evolved into wider opposition toward government intrusion into the private sector, complicating President Barack Obama’s efforts to reform financial regulation and healthcare. Continued…

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE59K01420091021

  474. cynkading Says:

    Hi there grammy. We have missed you….

  475. cynkading Says:

    Troy, I did get around to watching those vids that were about the Bohemian Grove and their members. Every time I look at a senator on TV, I keep wondering if they were apart of this elite group and if they were one of the ones who seared their conscence so they can get O’s evil agenda steam rolled through.

  476. Troy Says:

    Every time I look at a senator on TV, I keep wondering if they were apart of this elite group and if they were one of the ones who seared their conscence so they can get O’s evil agenda steam rolled through.
    *******************************************************
    There is a list of names.

  477. ryansgrammy Says:

    I’ve missed the gang too. We’ve been away quite a bit in the past few days and I spend a lot of time now taking care of my mom. You guys posted so much info, its taking me a while to catch up. 😀

    jr — sure hope the kitty shows up. They have a way of disappearing for days so I’ll keep my fingers crossed.

    cynka — I saw amy’s comment about salt water — try sea salt too — stuff is great.

  478. ryansgrammy Says:

    More propoganda from the left–its all in the question you ask!

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/10/fiftyseven_percent_want_a_publ.html

  479. ryansgrammy Says:

    ACORN vote fraud may have tipped local election (wouldn’t be surprised if the same stuff didn’t happen in the pres. election too).

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/10/acorn_vote_fraud_may_have_tipp.html

  480. ryansgrammy Says:

    Another day, another scary nominee

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/10/obamas_eeoc_nominee_would_rede_1.html

  481. ryansgrammy Says:

    Kerchner V Obama, Update, October 21, 2009, Charles Kerchner, Mario Apuzzo, Judge Simandle Has Granted the DOJ Motion to Dismiss

    http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2009/10/21/kerchner-v-obama-update-october-21-2009-charles-kerchner-mario-apuzzo-judge-simandle-has-granted-the-doj-motion-to-dismiss/

  482. inspirational1 Says:

    Hi Rose and gang,

    Havent been active here in a long time. Just started checking again and have to say I am saddened to here about the closure of this blog. I have been coming here about a year and have enjoyed the beautiful and imformative posts by Rose and the members here.

    I hope Rose you are well and can find peace and happiness in your creative endevor.

    May God look down on you and surround you in his beautiful aura of protection and peace as you have brought hours of joy and peace to many with you awesome blog.

    You will be missed..
    Troy and others who have volenteered to keep the blog running..that is great!

    Rose sorry to hear about your loss. I send prayers to you and your family.

  483. joldy Says:

    Michele Bachmann town hall call today, I missed most of it had to keep upting the phone down hard to cook with one hand, the below is from her site.

    ACORN Defunded Until October 31st. That’s It.

    Washington, D.C., Oct 16 – There’s a lot of talk out there about ACORN being stripped of their federal funding, and restricted from receiving federal funds in the future. Sadly, this couldn’t be further from the truth.

    Here’s what really happened:

    On October 1, 2009, the President signed a Continuing Resolution (CR) to keep government programs running at their current spending levels for one month. This was necessary because Congress has not yet passed the annual appropriations bills which fund all government programs into the new fiscal year, which began October 1st.

    In the Conference Report accompanying that bill, Congress included the following provision in Division B which prohibited ACORN from accessing federal funding:

    Sec. 163. None of the funds made available by this joint resolution or any prior Act may be provided to the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), or any of its affiliates, subsidiaries, or allied organizations.
    However, the CR expires on October 31, 2009:

    DIVISION B–CONTINUING APPROPRIATIONS RESOLUTION, 2010

    Division B provides continuing appropriations for all agencies and activities that would be covered by the regular fiscal year 2010 appropriations bills, until enactment of the applicable regular appropriations bill, or until October 31, 2009, whichever occurs first.
    Congress can pass another CR if it hasn’t finished passing the spending bills. That CR would also have an expiration date of a matter of days or weeks or maybe months. But, unless that CR includes the same language as Sec. 163, money will flow right back to ACORN on November 1st.

    Even if Congress passes its appropriations bills before November 1st, unless they include that language, ACORN will be eligible for funding again. And, remember in that case, the language has to be in all of the bills. There are 12 appropriations bills, each funding different government agencies and programs. Adding the prohibition language to, say, the Transportation funding bill doesn’t stop ACORN from accessing Housing funds.

    And, even if Congress were to include that language in all 12 appropriations bills, that ACORN-prohibition language would expire on September 30th – the final day of Fiscal Year 2010.

    The only way to ensure that ACORN is barred from federal funds across the board and for more than a brief time is for the White House to suspend and bar ACORN from federal funds. It doesn’t have to take an act of Congress.

    We need to call our 2 state reps an tell them to permanently de fund corrupt ACORN!

  484. ryansgrammy Says:

    This is from Dr. Kate’s blog where she talks about throwing boots at obamass — look at the comments — someone suggests horseshoes or cleats would be better. 🙂

    http://drkatesview.wordpress.com/2009/10/18/booting-obama/

  485. ryansgrammy Says:

    Looks like another ACORN video released.

    http://www.floppingaces.net/2009/10/21/acorn-philadelphia/

  486. joldy Says:

    Horseshoes!…. I want to toss a few ringers! 🙂

  487. ryansgrammy Says:

    Don’t view this on a full stomach — guaranteed to make you sick!

    http://74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:C1zImFgWiXYJ:truthfirstnow.blogspot.com/+truth+first+blog&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

  488. sdee Says:

    Mark Steyn: Limbaugh bad, Mao good

    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/mao-million-don-2610375-saying-dream

    Just a reality check from down here in the rabbit hole

  489. Katie Says:

    It’s a FASCINATING read, explains how we got here today, all tied up in a neat package.

    (And you thought your vote actually mattered…silly Americans.)

    “The Manchurian Candidate – Deceiving America”

    http://www.jonchristianryter.com/2009/090802.html

  490. Katie Says:

    BREAKING NEWS!

    Lord Christopher Monckton, the former science advisor to Margaret Thatcher who, one week ago, blew the cover off the conspiratorial globalist sovereignty grab of the proposed “Climate Change Treaty,” will be interviewed by Wiley Drake, Thursday, 10/22 at Noon, ET.

    The program will be net-cast on Crusade Radio and is available for pick-up, live or otherwise, by other media. Link to the site of this net-cast:

    http://investigatingobama.blogspot.com/2009/10/lord-monckton-on-crusade-radio-thursday.html

  491. sdee Says:

    When the cat’s away the mice kill each other: Excellent analysis on the Mid East situation by Spengler:

    Long, but worth a read especially if nothing seems to be making any sense to you over there. Spengler seems to have psychological insight into Obama – at the end of the article he puts this all into the context of Obama’s “hard-core, left-wing Third World antipathy to the United States”

    ————————-
    some snippets

    The region is full of geopolitical mines. To be name some of them:
    # India can’t let the fundamentalist side of the Pakistani military take power without responding.
    # Iran can’t let Pakistan’s Sunnis crush the 20% Shi’ite minority.
    # Israel can’t allow for the possibility of Iran developing nuclear weapons.
    # Saudi Arabia can’t let Iran dominate Iraq.
    # Turkey can’t let Iraq’s Kurds form an independent state.
    # China can’t let Turkey agitate among the 100 million Muslim ethnic Turks within its borders.

    A complex negotiation involving Russia and Israel is underway. Russia has the capacity to suspend or cancel its promised shipments of S-300 missiles to Iran, or to provide Israel with means to make the system ineffective.

    The answer may lie in the world’s response to the virtual cancellation of the American F-22 program. Fewer than two hundred of the fifth-generation American stealth fighter are likely to be built, and the US will export none of them. America’s efforts are concentrated rather on the F-35, a cheaper, more versatile and less advanced aircraft. For the first time since World War II, America’s rule of the skies may be challenged by its failure to invest adequately in the next generation of American aircraft. Russia and India already have agreed on joint development of a fifth generation fighter aircraft based on existing Russian airframes. Russian quality control is notoriously poor and Russian avionics are backward. If Israel joined the consortium, the product might challenge the F-35 in the world market for military aviation.

    The center of gravity of regional power is likely to shift away from Iran to Pakistan. The mass assassination of Iranian officers most likely represented a gesture from Pakistan as to what the future will bring. America’s use of the Pakistani army to chase the Taliban around Waziristan has about the same effect as shaking a warm bottle of cola before opening

    What is most astonishing is that official Washington seems entirely oblivious to the crack-up of American influence occurring in front of its eyes. None of the wonkish foreign policy blogs, let alone the mainstream press, seems able to focus.

    The reason for Obama’s peculiar mode of governance, though, may have less to do with his apparent narcissism than with his objectives. It is a credible hypothesis that this president holds views that he cannot easily share, even with his own staff. As he told the United Nations General Assembly on September 23, he truly wants a world without superpowers: “In an era when our destiny is shared, power is no longer a zero-sum game. No one nation can or should try to dominate another nation. No world order that elevates one nation or group of people over another will succeed.”

    Obama appears to believe that America’s influence in the world is malignant. But even a president who wants to drastically reduce America’s influence in the world must negotiate a formidable military and national security establishment which has a strong moral commitment to – as well as vested interests in – that influence.

    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/KJ20Ak03.html

  492. jrinNC Says:

    Senator Lamar Alexander (R-TN), Republican Conference Chairman, suggested on the Senate floor this morning that the Obama White House is plotting a political strategy similar to that of ex-President Richard Nixon and may be on the verge of preparing its own “enemies list.” This afternoon, Fox News’ Neil Cavuto interviewed him regarding the comments

  493. cynkading Says:

    ryansgrammy Says:

    October 21, 2009 at 8:19 pm
    ACORN vote fraud may have tipped local election (wouldn’t be surprised if the same stuff didn’t happen in the pres. election too).

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I have thought the same thing for along time.

  494. Troy Says:

  495. Troy Says:

    inspirational1 Says:

    October 21, 2009 at 8:28 pm
    Hi Rose and gang,
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Nice to see you again…Don’t be a stranger. 🙂

  496. igaveup Says:

    ryansgrammy Says:
    October 21, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    Don’t view this on a full stomach — guaranteed to make you sick!

    ***think that the Southern Poverty Law Center is monitoring this guy for hate and hate speech? /s

  497. jrinNC Says:

    ‘Obama can thank himself for lack of peace progress’

    Far from promoting peace, as the Nobel Committee would like us all to believe, US President Barack Obama has actually made it increasingly more difficult to achieve a compromise peace deal between Israel and the Palestinians, explained Mark Zell, co-chairman of the Israel chapter of Republicans Abroad, in an interview with Arutz 7 radio.

    Zell pointed out that Obama’s overriding focus on stopping Jewish construction in Judea, Samaria and eastern Jerusalem, and even declaring the Jewish presence there illegitimate, has encouraged more hardline demands and positions from the Palestinian Arabs.

    No Israeli leader can ever meet those demands, at least not if he or she wants to remain in office long enough to actually sign a peace deal.

    For example, “moderate” Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas is more intractable than ever in his demand that Israel surrender every inch of the areas claimed by the Palestinians, including the entire eastern half of Jerusalem. Abbas has also been emboldened to reject Israel’s simple demand that it be recognized as the national home of the Jews, a demand that even Obama has backed.

    With Abbas unwilling to budge, and even the most liberal of possible Israeli leaders unable to meet 100 percent of his demands, peace is today more unachievable than ever, despite the picture the White House is trying to paint.”

    http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=178&nid=19800

    *******************************************************
    Note last sentence

  498. Troy Says:

    Niall Ferguson: The Dollar Is Finished And The Chinese Are Dumping It

    Economic historian Niall Ferguson warns that China’s love affair with the dollar is fading faster than anyone realizes.

    TechTicker: “The idea they don’t have anywhere else to go or would shoot themselves in the foot if there were a steep decline in the dollar or appreciation of their currency reassures many people in Washington ‘we can relax’,” he says. “An appreciation of the renminbi may reduce value of their international reserves but increases the value of every other asset the Chinese own,” most notably the commodity assets they have been buying all over the world.

    China’s “current strategy is to diversify out of dollars and into commodities,” Ferguson says. Furthermore, China’s recent pact with Brazil to conduct trade in their local currencies is a “sign of the times.”

    Perhaps most importantly, China’s massive stimulus program is helping to generate internal consumption in the People’s Republic, meaning local manufacturers are less dependent on exports. Because of the “rapid growth” of Chinese domestic consumption, Ferguson predicts China’s international trade

    surplus could be gone by next year.

    Source
    http://countusout.wordpress.com/

  499. Troy Says:

    Obama’s safe-schools boss sponsors radical porn
    Harvard event honoring AIDS activists credits Jennings for ‘gifts and grants’
    ——————————————————————————–
    Posted: October 21, 2009
    8:10 pm Eastern

    By Bob Unruh
    © 2009 WorldNetDaily

    A poster featured at a Harvard display of Act Up radical homosexual material, an event supported by Obama Safe Schools chief Kevin Jennings

    The chief of President Obama’s Education Department Office of Safe Schools, homosexual activist Kevin Jennings, is being credited for helping sponsor a Harvard University display honoring the work of the radical homosexual organization Act Up.

    WND reported just days ago when Mass Resistance, a pro-family organization in Massachusetts that has battled over homosexual agenda points there, reported that Jennings was a part of that organization, known for its aggressive badgering of those who don’t support the homosexual lifestyle.

    A YouTube video revealed Jeff Davis, Jennings’ “partner,” addressing a banquet and saying of Jennings, “He was a member of Act Up. Act Up! So it’s like – you know – here’s a big gay activist. BIG gay activist!.”

    The video was pulled down shortly after the WND report appeared.

    Find out how immoral, self-destructive behaviors have become enshrined as normal and even heroic in David Kupelian’s culture-war classic, “The Marketing of Evil.”

    Now the advertising for the Harvard exhibition: “Act Up New York: Activism, Art, and the AIDS Crisis, 1987-1993,” credits Kevin Jennings with others including Fred P. Hockberg and Tom Healy, Open Gate and the Barbara Lee Family Foundation for “gifts and grants” used for the project.

    The display included dozens of “politically-charged posters, stickers, and other visual media that emerged during a pivotal moment of AIDS activism in New York City,” according to a website promoting the effort.

    (Story continues below)
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=113672

  500. Troy Says:

    Meet White House adviser who supports Islamic law
    Muslim leader says Dalia Mogahed ‘shares the outlook of Islamists in Egypt, Pakistan’
    ——————————————————————————–
    Posted: October 21, 2009
    9:50 pm Eastern

    By Art Moore
    © 2009 WorldNetDaily

    Dalia Mogahed

    She describes her role in the Obama administration as a communicator to the president and other public officials of “what it is Muslims want.”

    But Muslims such as Steven Schwartz, a prominent American convert to Islam and ardent critic of Muslim fundamentalism, contend Dalia Mogahed, a scheduled speaker at the annual fundraiser Saturday in Washington for the controversial Council on American-Islamic Relations’, certainly doesn’t speak for them.

    A senior analyst and executive director of the Gallup Center for Muslim Studies, Mogahed was appointed to President Obama’s Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships.

    The Egyptian-born, hijab-clad adviser drew attention earlier this month when she defended Shariah, or Islamic law, on a British television show hosted by a member of an extremist Muslim group, insisting the majority of women around the world associate Shariah with “gender justice.”

    Schwartz, executive director of the Center for Islamic Pluralism, states in a column for the Weekly Standard that according to Mogahed’s view, Muslims are “either fundamentalist or confused.”

    “Their attitudes toward Islamic law are divided, in her terms, only between supposedly wanting Shariah to be the sole source of governance and seeing it as one source of legislation among various canons,” he writes. “But for her, even this distinction is less important than proclaiming the satisfaction of Muslim women with Shariah.”

    Get “Muslim Mafia,” autographed, from WND’s Superstore

    As late as Oct. 15, CAIR’s promotion of its 15th annual banquet listed Mogahed as a keynote speaker along with a controversial imam, Siraj Wahhaj, an unindicted co-conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing investigation who has been recorded calling for the violent replacement of the U.S. government with a Saudi-style Islamic system.

    But by Friday, days after the release of “Muslim Mafia” – a book citing internal documents obtained in an undercover operation that establish CAIR functions as a political front group for the Egyptian-based Muslim Brotherhood – Mogahed’s name was replaced with civil rights activist Jesse Jackson’s. Mogahed’s assistant says, however, he hasn’t been informed of any changes.

    Schwartz says Mogahed shares the “outlook of Islamists in Egypt, Turkey, Pakistan and other countries threatened by fundamentalist tyranny, in which religious governance is posed as the sole alternative to secular dictatorship.”

    (Story continues below)
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=113704

  501. Troy Says:

    7 Months After Stimulus 49 of 50 States Have Lost Jobs
    America Now Over 6 Million Jobs Shy of Administration’s Projections
    Wednesday, October 21, 2009

    The table below compares the White House’s February 2009 projection of the number of jobs that would be created by the 2009 stimulus law (through the end of 2010) with the actual change in state payroll employment through September 2009 (the latest figures available). According to the data, 49 States and the District of Columbia have lost jobs since stimulus was enacted. Only North Dakota has seen net job creation following the February 2009 stimulus. While President Obama claimed the result of his stimulus bill would be the creation of 3.5 million jobs, the Nation has already lost a total of 2.7 million – a difference of 6.2 million jobs. To see how stimulus has failed your state, see the table below.
    http://www.republicans.waysandmeans.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=150826

  502. sdee Says:

    No wonder they are keeping us distracted.

    The Europeans lost their sovereignty and rights, this way – now we follow suit. This is another attack on the Constitution – led by Obama, reveled by Islamists the world over

    ——————————

    “”It has received far less notice than it deserves, but last week the United States joined with Egypt in sponsoring a resolution approved by the UN Human Rights Council that could blow a gaping hole in the First Amendment’s protection of freedom of speech and other civil liberties most of us take for granted.””

    “”If you are an American with the notion that the First Amendment will protect your right to say whatever you want whenever you want about whomever you want, be advised that this resolution embodies exactly the conceptual assumptions about law and rights that lead directly to those speech codes that restrict civil liberties on hundreds of U.S. college campuses at this very moment.””

    “”In other words, bunky, if you think the First Amendment will protect you from Obama and the UN, you’re still living in the 18th Century when people believed individual rights were theirs simply by virtue of being born under the U.S. Constitution, not as a dispensation of those in power.””

    “”And therein lies the terrible irony here. Obama has put this country on the same side as those in the Islamic world who give no thought at all to cutting off the heads of those who dare to utter a single word judged to be disrespectful of Mohammed or the Koran. “”

    “”Of course, what they really want is legal sanction from the world body for suppressing all Muslims who don’t accept the version of Islam that predominates in a particular country (think Sunnis and Shiites), as well as preventing the missionary proclamation of the Christian Gospel, Judaism, or any other non-Islamic religion.””

    “”That is the essential legal background from England that helped spark the English Reformation and ultimately led to the adoption of the First Amendment in the U.S. Constitution. Why on earth would anybody want to go back to that barbaric world in which you could lose your head for saying the wrong thing?””

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/President-Obama-has-something-in-common-with-King-Edward-I-AKA-Longshanks-65297762.html

  503. sdee Says:

    “”Net Neutrality is Fairness Doctrine for the Internet””

    Finally! People are figuring this out – let’s hope it’s not too late.

    These are all the same people behind the Fairnes Doctrine and Localization.

    There is little hope the FCC will change the course of their announcement today. Congress will likely try to seal our fate with legislation, so we are going to have to pay attention here.
    ———–

    http://thehill.com/hillicon-valley/605-technology/63875-blackburn-net-neutrality-is-qfairness-doctrine-for-the-internetq

  504. Troy Says:

    Rise Up For America calls for formation of National Protectorate
    October 22, 2009 by John Charlton

    PLAN INCLUDES NATIONWIDE EFFORT TO RECRUIT VOTERS, MILITARY, AND SECURITY PERSONNEL TO DEFEND NATION AGAINST MARXIST DICTATORSHIP
    by John Charlton

    (Oct. 22, 2009) — Since the Obama regime has made it absolutely clear that supreme and absolute power is their goal, the American voter should not be surprised at the goings-on in Washington, D.C.. Obama will target and destroy every opposition group, simply because he has to, if he wants to install himself as Dictator for life.

    First it was the auto-industry: he effectively destroyed the investors in GM; the republicans in the Dealerships. Then with the “Hate” laws he introduced legislation to give a pretext for rounding us up.

    The 1.7 Million Tea Parties who descended to Washington, were ignored and their existence was denied by nearly all media outlets.

    Now Obama plans to destroy the Health Insurance industry, because that will make all of us dependent upon whatever crumbs he hands out, for our health care; by means of a law which will give him power of life and death over each of us.

    We are no longer living with a George Bush in the Whitehouse; we are being pushed and beaten down another road; one which the peoples of Russia, China, Cambodia, Cuba, etc., were forced down, to be butchered and raped by godless Communists.

    In response groups of Americans are forming and organizing efforts that take account for the new political reality into which we have entered. The Post & Email will be featuring these, so that you the readers can get a better sense of how to defend yourselves against tyranny.

    Rise Up For America responds
    On organization which is responding to the grim reality of a Marxist Dictatorship, is Rise Up For America.

    Rise Up For America announced yesterday a call for the mobilization of Americans nationwide to resist tyranny. Their program, “Drive the Nail”, will recruit Military, Security Professionals, and the Voter, to form a “Three-legged Stool” or platform of resistence nationwide.

    You can read more about it at this url: http://www.riseupforamerica.com/drivethenail.html where their new forum for this effort will shortly be unveiled.

    Elsewhere on the same site is an excellent essay, the first two paragraphs of which are as follows:

    Dictator Obama and Reaching the Point of No Return

    By Sher Zieve Sunday, October 18, 2009

    As very few of our Congressional elected officials Democrats AND Republicans are taking any actions or exhibiting any desire to stop the Obama Dictatorship and We-the-People are now being completely left out of any and all legislation that directly affects us, I can only surmise that we as the Nation of the United states of America may have reached the point of no return in our rapidly forced descent into totalitarianism.

    From the anti-American and anti-human recently-passed Congressional bills, I have also concluded that as these self-same elected officials no longer care what their constituents think our attempts to stop the insanity of government officials summarily stripping us of our own money and our Constitutionally guaranteed liberties via peaceful means may have now come to an end. They haven’t worked. In actuality, even our September 1.7 millions-person-march on Washington D.C. in opposition to ObamaCare and Cap and Tax barely elicited yawns from both the Executive and Legislative branches of government the ones the American people elected to office in the first place. Instead, delivering yet another slap to the faces of the American people, Obama skipped town that day to be fawned over by a hand-picked crowd of his supporters in Minnesota.

    The Post & Email encourages its readers to read the entire piece.

    here: http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/

  505. Troy Says:

    Rise Up For America calls for formation of National Protectorate
    October 22, 2009 by John Charlton

    PLAN INCLUDES NATIONWIDE EFFORT TO RECRUIT VOTERS, MILITARY, AND SECURITY PERSONNEL TO DEFEND NATION AGAINST MARXIST DICTATORSHIP
    by John Charlton

    (Oct. 22, 2009) — Since the Obama regime has made it absolutely clear that supreme and absolute power is their goal, the American voter should not be surprised at the goings-on in Washington, D.C.. Obama will target and destroy every opposition group, simply because he has to, if he wants to install himself as Dictator for life.

    First it was the auto-industry: he effectively destroyed the investors in GM; the republicans in the Dealerships. Then with the “Hate” laws he introduced legislation to give a pretext for rounding us up.

    The 1.7 Million Tea Parties who descended to Washington, were ignored and their existence was denied by nearly all media outlets.

    Now Obama plans to destroy the Health Insurance industry, because that will make all of us dependent upon whatever crumbs he hands out, for our health care; by means of a law which will give him power of life and death over each of us.

    We are no longer living with a George Bush in the Whitehouse; we are being pushed and beaten down another road; one which the peoples of Russia, China, Cambodia, Cuba, etc., were forced down, to be butchered and raped by godless Communists.

    In response groups of Americans are forming and organizing efforts that take account for the new political reality into which we have entered. The Post & Email will be featuring these, so that you the readers can get a better sense of how to defend yourselves against tyranny.

    Rise Up For America responds
    On organization which is responding to the grim reality of a Marxist Dictatorship, is Rise Up For America.

    Rise Up For America announced yesterday a call for the mobilization of Americans nationwide to resist tyranny. Their program, “Drive the Nail”, will recruit Military, Security Professionals, and the Voter, to form a “Three-legged Stool” or platform of resistence nationwide.

    You can read more about it at this url:
    http / / www riseupforamerica.com/drivethenail.html where their new forum for this effort will shortly be unveiled.

    Elsewhere on the same site is an excellent essay, the first two paragraphs of which are as follows:

    Dictator Obama and Reaching the Point of No Return

    By Sher Zieve Sunday, October 18, 2009

    As very few of our Congressional elected officials Democrats AND Republicans are taking any actions or exhibiting any desire to stop the Obama Dictatorship and We-the-People are now being completely left out of any and all legislation that directly affects us, I can only surmise that we as the Nation of the United states of America may have reached the point of no return in our rapidly forced descent into totalitarianism.

    From the anti-American and anti-human recently-passed Congressional bills, I have also concluded that as these self-same elected officials no longer care what their constituents think our attempts to stop the insanity of government officials summarily stripping us of our own money and our Constitutionally guaranteed liberties via peaceful means may have now come to an end. They haven’t worked. In actuality, even our September 1.7 millions-person-march on Washington D.C. in opposition to ObamaCare and Cap and Tax barely elicited yawns from both the Executive and Legislative branches of government the ones the American people elected to office in the first place. Instead, delivering yet another slap to the faces of the American people, Obama skipped town that day to be fawned over by a hand-picked crowd of his supporters in Minnesota.

    The Post & Email encourages its readers to read the entire piece.

    here: http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/

  506. Troy Says:

    A must watch!….Free!
    ******************
    Watch “Fall of the Republic” here – complete documentary

    http://www.repubx.com/

  507. Troy Says:

    Pass on the documentary to as many people as possible…If someone doesn’t have a computer then copy it / burn it on to a CD and give it to them…They should also be instructed to pass it on…Thanks!

  508. Troy Says:

    NO copyright laws would be broken by redistributing the video…Make as many copies as you like…Alex Jones gives his expressed permission to do that in this video…He, in fact, encourages it…That means his motivation for the work put into making the documentary was not monetary, but is more of a public service.

  509. Troy Says:

    Ok, where is everybody???…Do my feet stink or something?…What’s the deal here? 😦

  510. cynkading Says:

    Troy Says:

    October 22, 2009 at 5:41 pm
    Ok, where is everybody???…Do my feet stink or something?…What’s the deal here?

    _______________________________________________

    Hey bugaloo!!! I have trying to catch up on some reading. As far as I can tell your feet do not stink….

  511. Troy Says:

    Weeeeeee!!!!!!!…I’m not alone!!! 😀

  512. Troy Says:

    Good article on the “Boston Tea Party”
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    HISTORY SHOWS THAT LIBERTY WAS WON BY DEEDS OF HEROISM & FORCE
    Testimony of George Hewes, participant in original Boston Tea Party, 1773

    (Boston: Dec. 18, 1773) — The tea destroyed was contained in three ships, lying near each other at what was called at that time Griffin’s wharf, and were surrounded by armed ships of war, the commanders of which had publicly declared that if the rebels, as they were pleased to style the Bostonians, should not withdraw their opposition to the landing of the tea before a certain day, the 17th day of December, 1773, they should on that day force it on shore, under the cover of their cannon’s mouth.

    continued: http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/

  513. cynkading Says:

    Leo Haffey, Update, October 21, 2009, Leo released from jail, Nashville TN corruption, Attorney Leo Haffey freed from jail

    I received the following email at 1:47 PM ET today, October 21, 2009:

    “10/21/2009

    This e-mail is to inform you that LEO HAFFEY has been released from custody as of 10/21/2009. If you have any concerns about your immediate safety, contact your local law enforcement agency, or if you have an emergency, call 911.

    If you are a victim and need additional information, contact the county district attorney general’s office or Davidson County Sheriff’s Department. The telephone number to the facility is (615)862-8123.

    This notification is sponsored by Tennessee SAVIN. It is our hope that this information has been helpful to you.

    Thank you,”

    Blogger Aristotle the Hun will be providing more information on corruption stories in Nashville, TN that Leo Haffey was writing about.

    For more information on Leo Haffey stay tuned to Citizen Wells and check here

    http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2009/10/21/leo-haffey-update-october-21-2009-leo-released-from-jail-nashville-tn-corruption-attorney-leo-haffey-freed-from-jail/

  514. Troy Says:

    I take this article from Seoul S.K. as good news…When we were younger, how many times did the radio stations ruin a perfectly good song by running it into the ground (over playing it)?….When the song first hit the airwaves it was soon one of your favorites, if not the favorite, but after hearing it over and over and over you became sick of it…It would come on and you would change the radio station and then, “Oh no!!!…There it is again!”….Pretty soon, what was one of your favorites became something along the lines of fingernails on a chalkboard…That is what Barry is becomming around the globe, freakin fingernails on a chalkboard!!!
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    Barack Obama and the Flying Circus

    By Ivan Simic
    Director of EU Office

    Obama with his Mother — Barack Hussein Obama shown with his mother Ann Dunham who was born late in Nov. 1942, in Wichita, Kansas. Ann died of cancer in 1995.

    Barack Obama and the Flying Circus is a perfect term to describe current President of the United States and his prominent Cabinet.

    For the past year and a half every single day was and still is about Barack Obama and his extravaganza. Day just does not go by without Obama: What did Obama say? What did Obama do? What will Obama say? What will Obama do? In addition, we have witnessed media madness for Obama¡¯s dog, Obama¡¯s family, Obama¡¯s citizenship, Obama¡¯s religion, Obama¡¯s cabinet, Obama¡¯s associates, among others.

    There is no way to avoid Obama and his flying circus, no matter where we live, they are everywhere not just in the US, they are in Europe, Asia, Pacific, Africa, Middle East and even the North Pole. They are filling front pages of the world newspapers and making breaking news around the world, and that entire not ones a day, but several times a day. It appears there is just no room for other country leaders, Presidents, novelists, scientist, and artist. It is like they do not exist, like Obama is the only important one in this contemporary world.

    However, this ongoing entertainment and late night shows by Obama and his sidekick¡¯s are not fascinating anymore, they became more like harassment. No matter if we read the news papers, watch TV, listen to the radio or go online, Obama and his circus-men are there 24/7 to remind us that they exist, in case we forgot.

    And, in addition to all ¡°amusement¡± by Obama and his extravaganza, on October 9, 2009, for his extraordinary global entertainment, Barack Obama got a present from his circus-men: his first Nobel Peace Prize.

    Yet, what Obama¡¯s circus-man did not know is that for the extraordinary entertainment one does not receive Nobel Peace Prize, one receives Academy Award-the Oscar or the Emmy, among other movie awards. It appears circus-men were late for the Oscar, as the Oscar was played on February 22, 2009; therefore they went to present him with the Nobel Prize instead.

    The award came as a surprise even to the President Obama himself, he said: “To be honest, I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many transformative figures.”

    Maybe President Obama was thinking about these transformative figures: Martti Ahtisaari (got the prize as a reward for his contribution in illegal 2008 Kosovo independence. No need to talk too much about Mr. Ahtisaari because his picture tells a thousand words), Al Gore (got the prize as a compensation for all of his failures in the US politics), Muhammad Yunus (got the prize as a gift, thanks to a good friend of his Ted Turner (CNN), and the members of the board of directors of the UN Foundation. They couldn’t give him the prize in Economics because the idea for Grameen Bank was first introduced by Pakistani Akhter Khan), Mohamed Mostafa ElBaradei (got the prize as a gift for his support of USA-Afghanistan war and USA-Iraqi war), Kofi Annan (UN and Annan got the prize in 2001; for their work for a better organized and more peaceful world. On October 7, 2001 the US attacked Afghanistan, they got the peace prize same year), among others. So much of the world peace!
    The question that probably intrigues many is: Why is this first Peace Prize for Obama?

    Obama is scheduled to receive three Nobel Prizes, two for Peace and one for Economics. His second prize will be in Economics, while third in Peace. After receiving his prizes, Obama will be the only man in human history to receive three unshared Nobel Prizes.

    Linus Pauling was the only person to win two unshared prizes, one in Chemistry and one in Peace. When Michele Obama, wife of the President Obama, receives her unshared Nobel Prize, the Obama family will be the only multi laureate family to receive four unshared prizes, beating Curie family which holds the Nobel Prize family record.

    It is not so important that Barack Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize, since Nobel Prize lost its original meaning long time ago. But, the most freighting thing is that people who support this prize and talk about peace forgot the meaning of the word ¡°Peace.¡±

    Man who sends soldiers to the battlefield and threatens other sovereign countries cannot be man of peace, no matter how many prizes you award him with. Do these decision making people have any sense or reality, and what is right or wrong?
    Peace is not some mainstream phrase. Without doubt, Obama is very popular at the moment thanks to the media, but that does not mean that Obama is a man of peace. What about war in Iraq and Afghanistan and threats to North Korea and Iran? Are these peace objectives?

    Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Benito Mussolini were very popular at the time, but they were not presented with the Nobel Prize. Yet, they were nominated for same.

    If we look down the history from 1900 to 2009, we will find only one person who was extremely popular and talked about like President Obama. That person is Adolf Hitler, leader of the Nazi Party and chancellor of Germany.

    Despite both men¡¯s popularity; there are more scary similarities between these two leaders:
    Both Obama and Hitler share similar ancestries: Obama German, Hitler Austrian.

    Both leaders had been surrounded by many controversies concerning birth certificate, citizenship and religion.

    Both had the father figure issues. Obama¡¯s parents separated when he was two years old and they divorced in 1964. His father returned to Kenya and saw him only once more before dying in an automobile accident in 1982. Hitler had a troubled relationship with his tradition-minded authoritarian father, who frequently beat him.

    During their teenage years both leaders had problems with alcohol. Obama called the alcohol phase “greatest moral failure,” Hitler called it ¡°most humiliated experience in life.¡±

    Both are unloved by the Jewish, for Hitler is well known why, for Obama, well, his victory in Presidential elections was not received with welcome in Israel.

    Time magazine named Obama person of the year in 2008, Hitler in 1938.

    Both had bestseller books: Obama had ¡°Dreams of my Father¡± (memoir) and ¡°the Audacity of Hope¡± (political convictions), Hitler had ¡°Mein Kampf (My Struggle) in Volumes 1 and 2. It combines elements of autobiography with an exposition of Hitler’s political ideology.

    Obama was influenced by Martin Luther King, Hitler by Martin Luther.

    Both Obama and Hitler came to power during the recession-depression; Obama in 2009, Hitler in 1933.

    Both are personality cult leaders, portrayed as saviors of political and economical depression; Obama as an American savior, Hitler as German. A cult of personality arises when a country’s leader uses mass media to create an idealized and heroic public image, often through unquestioning flattery and praise.

    Both are/were very gifted orators, having ability to attract great interest in their speeches. Both have/had hand gestures when giving a speech.

    Both leaders had initiated health reforms, environmentalism and animal protection rights, among others.

    Obama and his extravaganza occupied Europe and North Africa with their charm. Next in agenda is Asia Tour (Korea, China, Japan and Singapore). On the other side, Hitler¡¯s military occupied Europe, North Africa, East and South East Asia, and Pacific Ocean. The question is: will Obama go by the Hitler¡¯s path and visit Pacific Ocean in his next tour?

    Talking about Hitler and Obama, one cannot avoid Hitler¡¯s words without thinking of Obama;
    ¡°All great movements are popular movements. They are the volcanic eruptions of human passions and emotions, stirred into activity by the ruthless Goddess of Distress or by the torch of the spoken word cast into the midst of the people¡±.

    ¡°The art of leadership . . . consists in consolidating the attention of the people against a single adversary and taking care that nothing will split up that attention. . . . The leader of genius must have the ability to make different opponents appear as if they belonged to one category.¡±

    ¡°All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach. By the skillful and sustained use of propaganda, one can make a people see even heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise¡±.

    So, what can we expect from President Obama and his sidekick¡¯s?

    Satire or real possibility

    In order to pull his country out of recession Barack Obama will have no other option then to use his popularity to fill movie theaters. The US President will make movies! This is the only productive business left in the US. Obama will make few so called blockbuster movies which each will make more than a billion dollars in revenues, beating the legendary Titanic. Money from the movies will be used to support the US economy.

    For his brilliant talent on movie screen Obama will get several Oscar¡¯s and other movie awards. In addition, Obama will be presented with his second Nobel Prize, but this time in Economics (for discovering unique mechanism to use movie industry to directly support government budget).

    Here are some possible titles for Obama¡¯s movies:
    Obama: The Extra-Terrestrial (E.T: The Extra-Terrestrial), Obama Wars (Star Wars), Obama-Man (Spider-Man), Obama Almighty (Bruce Almighty), The Obama Ultimatum (The Bourne Ultimatum), Obama vs. Aliens (Monsters vs. Aliens), Mr. & Mrs. Obama (Mr. & Mrs. Smith), Obama Forever (Batman Forever), Obama¡¯s 21 (Ocean¡¯s eleven), among other notable titles.

    But what will Obama do when his movie carrier fades away? What else showmen can do, he will sing! Obama will record the peace album with the possible hit song ¡°Heal the world make it Obamaland¡± (Heal the world by Michael Jackson), which will receive numerous MTV awards and Grammy¡¯s (Obama won two Grammy¡¯s, one in 2006 and one in 2008). It appears Democrats like Grammy¡¯s; An Inconvenient Truth by Al Gore won in 2009, Jimmy Carter in 2007, Bill Clinton in 2005, Hillary Clinton in 1997 and Jesse Jackson in 1989.

    Obama singing career will fill the US budget additionally and will get him his third Nobel Prize, again in Peace (for sharing his gracious voice which brought untold happiness to all mankind, especially ones caught by war machinery).

    For the end, the question that Obama Presidency should be asked is: Who is the director of this extraordinary performance in which Obama plays leading role?

    http://theseoultimes.com/ST/?url=/ST/db/read.php?idx=8969

  515. Troy Says:

    Woo hooo!!!!! for Leo Haffey/

  516. jrinNC Says:

    hey everyone, had to work this morn.

    Troy, my goodness I can smell your feet clear across to the east coast 🙂

    Hope no one is having trouble accessing the blog because there are so many posts. Sometimes it starts slowing things down when there are so many comments. I haven’t had any trouble yet.

    Troy, depending on whether or not problems with slowness start, we could always go back to another thread that has only a few comments until Rose can get something posted or she transfers everything to you or whoever.

    Anyway I will get busy posting things once I grab a little late lunch.

  517. Troy Says:

    Hope no one is having trouble accessing the blog because there are so many posts. Sometimes it starts slowing things down when there are so many comments. I haven’t had any trouble yet.
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    It is mostly when a lot of videos have been posted…That is why I have not been posting very many of them.

  518. sdee Says:

    I’m not going to be making a rash reversals on my opinion about McCain until I can read it 🙂

    But for now……….ALRIGHT… ITS ABOUT TIME!

    “”McCain Introduces Bill to Block FCC’s Net Neutrality Rules””

    http://www.pcworld.com/article/174155/mccain_introduces_bill_to_block_fccs_net_neutrality_rules.html

  519. patriotamy Says:

    Troy says:
    “For his brilliant talent on movie screen ……. ”
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    And there is an associate director in the WH to help !!

    http://www.cbsnews.com/ blogs/ 2009/ 04/ 07/ politics/ politicalhotsheet/ entry4926169.shtml

    “Actor Kal Penn, known for his roles in the “Harold and Kumar” movies and the television series “House,” has been hired by the White House to serve as a liason between the administration and arts groups.”

  520. jrinNC Says:

    Thousands of Israeli, American Soldiers begin ‘Juniper Cobra’

    The drill, titled “Juniper Cobra,” is being conducted for the fifth time since 2001, and will focus on defensive measures against ground-to-ground missiles. Air, land, and sea forces from both the Israeli and United States militaries are taking part in the exercise.

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/133997

  521. jrinNC Says:

    Israeli Warplanes Strike Gaza Targets After Rocket Hits Israel

    Israeli warplanes hit several targets in the Gaza Strip early Thursday after Gaza militants fired a rocket into southern Israel.

    http://israelstreams.com/tweet.html?http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-10-22-voa46.cfm

  522. jrinNC Says:

    Washington Watch: Will Obama put the peace process on hold?

    Nine months after US President Barack Obama made Middle East peace a centerpiece of his foreign policy, that goal appears more elusive than ever.

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Mideast special envoy George Mitchell will present a progress report to the president next week, and the news won’t be good. The only positive element of their report, said an administration spokesman, is that while progress has been scant, at least they’re still talking.

    http://israelstreams.com/tweet.html?http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1256150020140

  523. jrinNC Says:

    Obama in New York: Vote for ‘the bill you least like’

    Apparently the secret to passing ObamaCare is for the President to acknowledge that all Members of Congress have something they don’t like about the bill, but to vote for it regardless:

    AP reports the President said in New York yesterday:

    “The bill you least like” improves coverage for millions, he said in New York. “Let’s make sure that we keep our eye on the prize.”

    http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/10/22/obama-in-new-york-vote-for-the-bill-you-least-like/

  524. jrinNC Says:

    AARP Leaves Questions Unanswered

    Posted by Congressman Dave Reichert

    http://www.redstate.com/repdavereichert/2009/10/22/aarp-leaves-questions-unanswered/

    “This bill would make great strides for all of our members and their families….” AARP said July 14, as House Committees prepared to review and amend the health care overhaul bill in the House which contains nearly $500 billion in Medicare cuts.

    Last week, the Senate Finance Committee passed its version of health reform, and so, it appears, that the health care battle will continue to chug along with cuts to Medicare that will affect up to 14 million seniors across the country (14,000 in Washington State) and force them off of much-needed supplemental coverage providing them with critical benefits, such as prescription drugs.

    Why would a seniors’ advocacy group support such drastic cuts to Medicare? It simply does not add up.

    On September 21, I sent a letter to AARP requesting an explanation for its support for health care legislation, which contains provisions to cut Medicare and Medicare Advantage.

    They responded on October 1, and yet my questions remain unanswered. While they state that AARP “would gladly forgo every dime of revenue to fix the health care system,” AARP continues to run ads touting Medigap plans that will remain seniors’ only option after the proposed House legislation cuts Medicare and Medicare Advantage by $500 billion. And while they stated that “AARP is not an insurance company,” 38 percent of AARP’S annual total operating revenue came from United HealthCare, but simply 23 percent of total operating revenue came from membership dues.

    And while they state that “AARP has not endorsed any of the pending bills,” their support of these proposals is clear.

    When I was in law enforcement, I often sat in a room for hours with a subject, asking questions to figure out the facts. And if a question wasn’t answered, we continued to ask until we reached a sensible conclusion.

    Late last week, I reached out again to clarify the questions they didn’t clearly answer, and I will continue to question them, and work with them until I find answers for the seniors in my district and across the country.

  525. Troy Says:

    I know videos slow down the thread, but I had to post this one.

  526. cynkading Says:

    I am pi$$ed I have been on the phone to my senators. I had a longlist of complaints. Starting with the HCR, Net Neutrality, Acorn Funding, the changed locks and closed doors to the Republicans. I thought I was going to have to climb through the ohone and slap this one guy. He was pretty sarcastic.

  527. cynkading Says:

    sure what a ohone is!!! Supposed to be phone 🙂

  528. jrinNC Says:

    Israel rebuffs Obama demand to surrender before negotiations

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has rejected a demand by US President Barack Obama that he commit to a major expulsion of Jews from their homes in Judea and Samaria prior to a renewal of peace negotiations with the Palestinian Authority.

    http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=178&nid=19808

  529. jrinNC Says:

    Saudi Arabia to Seek Financial Aid if World Reduces Oil Dependence

    http://www.triplepundit.com/2009/10/saudi-arabia-to-seek-financial-aid-if-world-reduces-oil-dependence/

  530. jrinNC Says:

    Quote from above video “any govt that is so embarrassed by the truth that makes it illegal is governing under false pretenses”

    I guess that is why BO is so against Fox – he is embarrassed by the truth because he IS governing under false pretenses.

  531. Troy Says:

    Iran and Israel In A Room…Together?
    Well this certainly would be a surprising development. The story is full of “sources”, leaks, and Iranian denial…but I certainly expect the denial. Iran can’t openly acknowledge working with Israel. They would lose all credibility with their admirers.

    Love this line:

    In one of the discussions, Soltanieh directly asked Zafary-Odiz – and eyewitnesses say he spoke in an impassioned voice, “Do you or do you not have nuclear weapons?” Zafary-Odiz smiled, but did not respond.

    http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/

  532. jrinNC Says:

    Obama: Fox News Is Like ‘Talk Radio’

    http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/obama_fox_news_radio/2009/10/22/275701.html

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    I didn’t know which parts were more prevalent to post excerpts – so please read it all. BO gripes my *s*.

  533. jrinNC Says:

    Newsday to Charge $5 Per Week for Web Access

    NEW YORK — Newsday plans to start charging $5 a week for access to its Web site in a move that could generate more revenue but risks driving away readers.

    http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/us_tec_newsday_online_fees/2009/10/22/275587.html

    **************************************************************
    How much longer will it be before everyone starts doing this??????????

  534. jrinNC Says:

    Mainstream media blackout on Dick Cheney speech
    By Editor

    American opposition to the Obama Administration and/or its policies are ‘silenced.’ Former Vice President Dick Cheney gave an important speech today and it was not televised on any American “news’ or “quasi-news” network. Recently this administration has boasted about ‘controlling’ all American news networks. Indeed, they apparently do. Not even Fox news televised this speech. They have; however, posted the speech on their website. Patriotic Americans believe this isn’t good enough! Please , Please consider posting this speech on your website for the sake of honoring the necessity of free speech for all people. Please Read The Speech Below. Thank you.
    E. Morris
    Phoenix, Arizona

    Go to article to read Cheney’s speech

    http://canadafreepress.com/

  535. jrinNC Says:

    The Saints of Socialism and the Religion of Radicalism

    “In a way Obama is standing above the country, above the world. He’s sort of god. He’s going to bring all different sides together,” proclaimed Newsweek editor Evan Thomas.

    (That statement makes me want to upchuck. 😡

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/16048

  536. jrinNC Says:

    sdee Says:
    October 22, 2009 at 6:24 pm

    “”McCain Introduces Bill to Block FCC’s Net Neutrality Rules””

    *************************************************************
    Well guess this is better late than never. I tell you folks, our Senators and Congressmen are so absorbed by this health care reform, that MANY things are slipping by. I sometimes think this whole reform was planned as a diversion so BO could implement his destruction without anyone being aware it was being done.

  537. Troy Says:

    Can Anyone Vouch for Obama’s History? Not at Columbia!
    Posted by Phil, The Right Side of Life

    It is already known that nobody has stepped forward to vouch for witnessing or being connected to Mr. Obama’s birth as alleged to have been in some Hawaiian hospital. And now it appears that nobody seems to remember their fellow classmate at Columbia University.

    The Anti-Mullah blog posted this story last Sunday; I did some further research to find out from whence they pulled much of the verbiage in their posting.

    First, Reason.com posted an article back in September, 2008 in which they interviewed the Libertarian Party Vice Presidential candidate, Wayne Allen Root (poignantly excerpted quotes):

    Root is no fan of the Democratic nominee: “A vote for Obama is four years of Karl Marx, and no one should be happy about that,” he told us and a few genial young libertarian activists over cocktails. “He’s a communist! I don’t care what anybody says. The guy’s a communist…. And his mother was a card-carrying communist, and he says she’s the most important person in his entire life; he learned everything from her.”

    But the thing Root really wanted to talk about was Obama’s grades. Specifically, he was willing to bet a million dollars that he earned a better grade point average at Columbia than his old classmate, and that the only reason Obama went on to Harvard Law School was the color of his skin. …

    “I think the most dangerous thing you should know about Barack Obama is that I don’t know a single person at Columbia that knows him, and they all know me. I don’t have a classmate who ever knew Barack Obama at Columbia. Ever! … Where was Obama? He wasn’t an outgoing young man, no one ever heard of him. …

    Class of ‘83 political science, pre-law Columbia University. You don’t get more exact than that. Never met him in my life, don’t know anyone who ever met him. At the class reunion, our 20th reunion five years ago, 20th reunion, who was asked to be the speaker of the class? Me. No one ever heard of Barack! Who was he, and five years ago, nobody even knew who he was.” …

    There’s much more at the posting.

    It also appears that The New York Times had interviewed Mr. Root during the next month: CONTINUE HERE.

    http://countusout.wordpress.com/2009/10/22/can-anyone-vouch-for-obamas-history-not-at-columbia/

  538. Troy Says:

    Investigation: Swine Flu Numbers Inflated
    by DefendUSx October 22, 2009 13:14
    Written by Alex Newman of The New American

    Most people who were diagnosed with probable or presumed swine flu in the last few months likely did not actually have it, a CBS investigation published Wednesday revealed.

    According to the three-month study involving states’ data, only a small fraction of the collected specimens believed most likely to be swine flu actually tested positive for the H1N1 virus. In Georgia and California, only two percent of the tests were positive for swine flu. In Florida, it was 17 percent. But in Alaska, just one percent was really H1N1.

    “Many states were specifically testing patients deemed to be most likely to have H1N1 flu, based on symptoms and risk factors, such as travel to Mexico,” wrote CBS’ Sharyl Attkisson in the report, entitled “Swine Flu Cases Overestimated? CBS News Exclusive: Study Of State Results Finds H1N1 Not As Prevalent As Feared.”

    Against the advice of some public health officials, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) suggested that states stop tracking and testing for the H1N1 influenza virus in July, arguing that it was a waste of resources since the government had already confirmed there was a “pandemic.” It did not seek input from the states themselves, claiming that “there was not enough time,” according to CBS. But now, official estimates are being called into doubt.

    The CDC refused to release the data that had already been collected from states and e-mail communications regarding the decision to advise against testing, even two months after a Freedom of Information Act request by CBS. It also refused to comment for the investigation. But the news outlet managed to contact all 50 states and get their information.

    “The results reveal a pattern that surprised a number of health care professionals we consulted,” the report said. It claims that since most cases of swine flu are now diagnosed based on risk factors and symptoms, the “epidemic” may be exaggerated. The vast majority of cases flagged as probable H1N1 did not even test positive for any influenza at all, according to the states’ data.

    “With CDC’s fallback position, there are so many uncertainties with who’s being counted, it’s hard to know how much we’re seeing is due to H1N1 flu rather than a mix of influenza diseases generally,” said California’s Acting Chief of Emergency Preparedness and Response Dr. Bela Matayas. Matayas noted that California continues to track swine flu cases and perform laboratory tests. “We can tell that apart but they can’t.”

    Wall Street Journal reporter Alicia Mundy was interviewed on CBS’ “Washington Unplugged.” She noted that the former head of the National Institutes of Health was very concerned about the “guesstimating” that was going on with swine flu case numbers, and that there were some serious implications. “The trouble is, right now, if everybody thinks they have swine flu, the use of the medicines out there, the vaccine, the use of the Purell hand sanitizer, which could backfire and make your bacteria resistant to that — all that could become an issue of overuse,” she said.

    Another potential issue arising from this situation is that people who thought they were now immune because they had already contracted the swine flu may now reconsider exposing themselves to the risks of taking a vaccine. It also means people could potentially be taking unnecessary medications.

    Government spokespeople are telling the public that owing to these facts, everybody should still take a vaccine regardless of whether they thought they had swine flu or not. What it likely means is that the government was trying to hype the alleged numbers of swine flu cases, and now has been exposed.

    The World Health Organization claims there have been less then 5,000 deaths worldwide that were linked to the swine flu. By comparison, about one million die each year from malaria, and 36,000 people die annually from complications linked to the seasonal flu, according to the CDC. But if the CDC cannot accurately determine the actual or even approximate number of H1N1 infections, it hardly seems reasonable to unconstitutionally send out battalions of employees to try to persuade the public to undergo poorly tested medical procedures.

    Healthcare decisions should be made by individuals, families, and their healthcare providers — without government prodding, scaremongering, or mandates. If the government wishes to maintain a CDC or even a Department of Health and Human Services, it should amend the Constitution appropriately. In the meantime, it should stop misleading the public.
    http://www.repubx.com/

  539. Troy Says:

    Where are the NATO Troops Mr. International Promised Us?

    Good question. When does Obama’s alleged charm begin translating into tangible benefits for America?

    If what the White House and Obama supporters have been saying for two years is true, the weighty decision on Afghanistan’s troop strength is one that Obama shouldn’t have to make. From airy speeches in Berlin, to campaign rallies boasting that The One would renew “tattered” alliances abroad, to smug lectures about President Bush’s disrespectful treatment of our international friends and allies, President Obama was supposed to be the great uniter of the grand Western alliance, NATO’s savior.
    So far, he’s saved nothing. President Obama has failed to turn any of his charm and charisma into meaningful support in Afghanistan. Where’s the European surge? Where’s the flood of NATO troops, inspired by Obama’s lofty rhetoric, gushing into the Helmand? General McChrystal needs 48k more soldiers because he needs to hold territory and protect Afghani villages. Why hasn’t he been able to supplant McChrystal’s request with a sizable international force? Wasn’t that the point of electing a President whose greatest strength was his popularity abroad?

    The world probably does like us better. And that translates to…. Jack and Squat.

    Everything about Obama is this childish belief in “liking.” If Iran’s mullahs “like” us more, they will renounce a 20 year national/religious ambition to get an a-bomb.

    If Obama’s going to conduct middle-school diplomacy, perhaps he should learn what most people do before eighth grade: There is a difference between liking someone and like-liking someone.

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/293921.php

  540. Troy Says:

    Matthews, SPLC Propaganda Minister Gang Up On Oath Keepers
    by DefendUSx October 22, 2009 16:51
    Kurt Nimmo
    Infowars
    October 22, 2009

    Chris Matthews, Democrat operative and former Carter speechwriter, and Mark Potok, director of the fear-mongering Southern Poverty Law Center’s Intelligence Project, ganged up on Stewart Rhodes of the Oath Keepers the other day on MSNBC.

    continued /w video: http://www.repubx.com/

  541. jrinNC Says:

    Infowars DVD Fall of the Republic can be viewed at
    http://www.oilforimmigration.org/

  542. ryansgrammy Says:

    cynkading Says:

    October 22, 2009 at 6:55 pm
    I am pi$$ed I have been on the phone to my senators.
    *****************
    cynka — there was a time when they would get fired for such rude behavior. Of course if you vote their boss out of office they will be fired. 🙂 They’re not used to constituents burning up the phone lines and raising a fuss. They better get used to it!

  543. Troy Says:

  544. ryansgrammy Says:

    jr — did the kitty show up???

  545. Troy Says:

    A Little Info About the Mexican Drug War Soldiers (La Familia) Arrested in the USA

    Comprised predominantly of Mexicans (but potentially some Guatemalans and Salvadorians), uncorroborated reports suggest that the group may have initially formed as a vigilante group to counter local street crime and law enforcement corruption. According to Mexican law enforcement, council, comprised of visible leaders (business and government officials) and clandestine leaders (drug traffickers from various municipalities). According to intelligence, members of La Familia must complete a 3-6 month training camp in Michoacán, conducted by ex-members of the Colombian or Mexican Special Forces. The DTO uses equipment, weapons, and uniforms similar to those of the Federal Investigations Agency, and therefore operates without being detected in cities and on highways.

    La Familia Michoacana operates by means of an executive council, comprised of visible leaders (business and government officials) and clandestine leaders (drug traffickers from various municipalities).

    According to intelligence, members of La Familia must complete a 3-6 month training camp in Michoacán, conducted by ex-members of the Colombian or Mexican Special Forces. The DTO uses equipment, weapons, and uniforms similar to those of the Federal Investigations Agency, and therefore operates without being detected in cities and on highways. SOURCE

    http://countusout.wordpress.com/

  546. jrinNC Says:

    Grammy – yes he did – I think the cat from down the road ran him off. He was back the next morning bright and early and has been back again at 4:00pm to eat his supper. He was starving to death that next morning.
    I knew something was wrong for him to not show up. That other cat stayed around for a few hours and by that time it was late so I guess he stayed put in his hiding place in an old barn in the field next to my house.

    By the way, how is your Mom doing – better I hope.

  547. ryansgrammy Says:

    jr — so happy to hear the kitty is back. We fret over them like they are children!!!! My mom’s wound is deemed healed as of today!!!!! She can put a shoe on her foot (hasn’t had one on since May 14). How about your mom jr. I hope she is doing well under the circumstances.

  548. Troy Says:

    The Cheney speech that the MSM wouldn’t air yesterday.

    http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=8889662

  549. Troy Says:

    Obama shows the crowd how big his pecker is. 😉

  550. joldy Says:

    Obama On White House vs. FOX News: “I’m Not Losing Sleep Over It”

    …ya right, you would not be trying to beat them down every chance you get!

  551. joldy Says:

    I don’t even want to know who educated these idiots….Brenda and Robert. I seen this on Fox…

    Watts Up With That posted this disgusting pet-hating study:

    The eco-pawprint of a pet dog is twice that of a 4.6-litre Land Cruiser driven 10,000 kilometres a year, researchers have found.

    Victoria University professors Brenda and Robert Vale, architects who specialise in sustainable living, say pet owners should swap cats and dogs for creatures they can eat, such as chickens or rabbits, in their provocative new book Time to Eat the Dog: The real guide to sustainable living.

    The couple have assessed the carbon emissions created by popular pets, taking into account the ingredients of pet food and the land needed to create them.

    “If you have a German shepherd or similar-sized dog, for example, its impact every year is exactly the same as driving a large car around,” Brenda Vale said.

    “A lot of people worry about having SUVs but they don’t worry about having Alsatians and what we are saying is, well, maybe you should be because the environmental impact … is comparable.”

    In a study published in New Scientist, they calculated a medium dog eats 164 kilograms of meat and 95kg of cereals every year. It takes 43.3 square metres of land to produce 1kg of chicken a year. This means it takes 0.84 hectares to feed Fido.

    They compared this with the footprint of a Toyota Land Cruiser, driven 10,000km a year, which uses 55.1 gigajoules (the energy used to build and fuel it). One hectare of land can produce 135 gigajoules a year, which means the vehicle’s eco-footprint is 0.41ha – less than half of the dog’s.

    They found cats have an eco-footprint of 0.15ha – slightly less than a Volkswagen Golf. Hamsters have a footprint of 0.014ha – keeping two of them is equivalent to owning a plasma TV.

    Tastes like chicken.
    http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/?q=http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/01/its-recession-congress-gives-lawmakers.html

  552. Troy Says:

    I think Brenda and Robert should reduce their carbon foot print by eating each other and I don’t mean in a nice way….Better yet, they could have their bottom lips extended and become human pooper scoopers for Fido!

  553. joldy Says:

    LOL Troy
    i was thinking we could swap out aal these off the wall University professors with Chickens, rabits, an our kids would get a better education!

  554. jrinNC Says:

    Grammy that is great news about your Mom. I am so glad for her and for you too 🙂 My Mom is the same. She has a birthday coming up in a couple of weeks. She will be 84. She is the baby of her family and if she makes it to 84 she will have lived the longest of any of her family. She keeps saying this over and over and then she intends to leave this world so she can tell them. She is ready to go and I feel that she won’t live much longer. But only the good Lord knows for sure.

  555. joldy Says:

    Blog Talk reminder…

    Let’s Talk Liberty
    Date / Time: 10/22/2009 8:00 PM
    Let’s Talk Liberty hosted by Terry Dodd and his cohost Red Beckman is a discussion show dealing with Liberty issues to the end of restoring our Constitutional Republic. Join our various guests for late breaking news, education and information on various subjects. Join the chatroom or call in at 347-215-6929

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/PatriotsHeartNetwork/2009/10/23/Lets-Talk-Liberty

    Has Terry mentioned who will be on at all?

  556. Troy Says:

    I can tell you who all these global warming, carbon footprint alarmists are….They are people that have spent their entire lives living within the confines of a city….Therefore, the only thing they have ever seen is filth and polution that is indicative of living within an over populated area…Most of these people have probably never even seen a cow or actually camped out beneath stars away from their little matchbox neighborhood slums…They think that what they grew up seeing and breathing is what it is like everywhere….They don’t realize that their concrete and steel surroundings are a fraction of the actual realestate in this country….In their minds the entire world is a poluuted cesspool just like the one they grew up in….Hey you bunch of freaks, if you don’t like the city cesspools then get the hell out of them.

  557. jrinNC Says:

    Major ACORN Victory In New York Thanks In Part To Van Jones
    by Andrew Marcus

    ACORN’s New York operations are looking forward to a potential new flow of federal dollars, thanks to the New York State Senate and New York Governor Paterson.

    Together they applied the Van Jones’ Apollo doctrine to tap into federal stimulus money allocated to New York.

    Governor Paterson recently signed into law something called the “Green Jobs – Green New York Act of 2009″. The new law provides for the creation of a massive slush fund of federal stimulus dollars to be set aside for “green jobs”.

    http://biggovernment.com/2009/10/22/major-acorn-victory-in-new-york-thanks-in-part-to-van-jones/

  558. jrinNC Says:

    Barack Obama sees worst poll rating drop in 50 years

    The decline in Barack Obama’s popularity since July has been the steepest of any president at the same stage of his first term for more than 50 years.

    (They also said this) Gallup recorded an average daily approval rating of 53 per cent for Mr Obama for the third quarter of the year, a sharp drop from the 62 per cent he recorded from April.

    (avg daily approval at 53% – since when???)

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/6409721/Barack-Obama-sees-worst-poll-rating-drop-in-50-years.html

  559. sdee Says:

    Inspector Iranian Nuclear systems, falls 12 stories from a UN building.

    http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/declassified/archive/2009/10/22/iran-nuclear-monitor-dies-mysteriously.aspx

  560. joldy Says:

    Troy
    I agree with you. Every kid should spend time on a fram!
    I grew up on a farm, hard dirty work, wore out at the end of the day full of pride cause I was able to do what I had to do.

  561. jrinNC Says:

    Another One: School Kids Sing Song in Praise of Barack Obama

    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_102209/content/01125106.guest.html

  562. joldy Says:

    Did anyone watch Beck today! Not sure but I think Dunn’s Husband got him self a White House Job!

  563. Troy Says:

    Did anyone watch Beck today! Not sure but I think Dunn’s Husband got him self a White House Job!
    ***********************
    …or Ginsburg is stepping down and Barry is going to appoint him to SCOTUS.

  564. cynkading Says:

    Jr,

    She keeps saying this over and over and then she intends to leave this world so she can tell them. She is ready to go and I feel that she won’t live much longer. But only the good Lord knows for sure.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Bless her heart. This birthday seems to be very important to her. Give this sweet lady a hug for me K?

  565. joldy Says:

    Hey Terry’s not on it’s Chalice talking!

  566. cynkading Says:

    Grammy,
    You are a trooper for your care of your mom, too. I do not have a relationship with my mom at all and can appreciate your love for your mom and it speaks volumes about your character.

  567. Troy Says:

    Tuesday, 17 March 2009

    To Mr. Barack Obama

    Via: U.S Attorney Russell Dedrick, and Assistant U.S. Attorney Edward Schmutzer, Eastern District, Tennessee

    From: Walter Francis Fitzpatrick, III, United States Navy Retired

    Distribution: Wide

    SUBJECT: CRIMINAL ALLEGATIONS REGARDING THE COMMISSION OF TREASON

    I have observed and extensively recorded invidious attacks by military-political aristocrats against the Constitution for twenty years.

    Now you have broken in and entered the White House by force of contrivance, concealment, conceit, dissembling, and deceit.

    Posing as an impostor president and commander in chief you have stripped civilian command and control over the military establishment. Known military criminal actors—command racketeers—are now free in the exercise of military government intent upon destruction of America’s constitutional government.

    Free from constitutional restraint, and following your criminal example, military commanders deployed U.S. Army active duty combat troops into the small civilian community of Samson, Alabama last week in a demonstration of their newly received despotic, domestic police power.

    We come now to this reckoning. I accuse you and your military-political criminal assistants of TREASON.

    I name you and your military criminal associates as traitors.

    Your criminal ascension manifests a clear and present danger.

    You fundamentally changed our form of government. The Constitution no longer works.

    Confident holding your silent agreement and admission, I identify you as a foreign born domestic enemy.

    My sworn duty Mr. Obama is to stand against what you stand for. You are not my president. You are not my commander in chief.

    Obedient to the Constitution in submission of this criminal accusation I remain steadfast, and

    Born fighting,

    /s/ (notarized)

    Walter Francis Fitzpatrick, III

    United States Naval Academy, Class of 1975

    Mailed by priority, certified mail#: 7008 3230 0003 1463 3346

  568. jrinNC Says:

    Will do cynka – thanks

  569. jrinNC Says:

    You know I wonder if BO even sees the letters these people write. I would venture to say NO.

  570. sdee Says:

    Troy’s favorite talk show host is doing her part to paint a smiley face on Islam. Would I ever love to see Geller go one-on-one with Oprah.

    HOprah Watch: Daytime TV’s Jihadi Sister Now Dubai’s Propagandist

    http://www.debbieschlussel.com/10782/hoprah-watch-daytime-tvs-jihadi-sister-now-dubais-propagandist/

  571. jrinNC Says:

    Last night I was thinking back to when I first joined this blog. I have a one year anniversary coming up next month as I started posting 24 Nov 08. Of course I lurked for over a month before I started posting. It is hard to believe that a year has almost come and gone. I also read over many of the comments posted. It is scary how so much has changed in this one year.

  572. sdee Says:

    Any kid showing up to my house in one of these gets a case of Peanut M&Ms

    http://www.amazon.com/ACORN-SOUVENIRS-Scary-Marxist-Clown/dp/B002OFQQ8O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=toys-and-games&qid=1256260813&sr=1-1

  573. joldy Says:

    Any kid showing up to my house in one of these gets a case of Peanut M&Ms

    Will he have to show his long form birth cert firts? 🙂

  574. jrinNC Says:

    Fed outlines plan to police bank pay

    The Fed’s goal is to make sure banks’ pay policies don’t encourage top managers or other employees to take gambles that could endanger the company, the broader financial system or the economy.

    http://www.centurylink.net/news/read.php?ps=1018&rip_id=%3CD9BGC3FO1%40news.ap.org%3E&_LT=HOME_LARSDCCLM_UNEWS

    ************************************************************
    This is like the fox watching the hen house

  575. sdee Says:

    jrinNC Says:
    It is hard to believe that a year has almost come and gone.
    ********************

    Yeah – pretty amazing JR. I remember hoping back then that all I was learning of what was behind this man, was not true – it seemed almost surreal.

    Now I know – it is worse than I even imagined.

    We’ve only just begun.

  576. Tenacity Says:

    Pastor Bob McCurry on Let’s Talk Liberty now.
    Call-in Number: (347) 215-6929
    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/PatriotsHeartNetwork/2009/10/23/Lets-Talk-Liberty

    Todd McGreevy from We The People Foundation CC2009 on at the top of the hour.

  577. sdee Says:

    joldy Says:

    Will he have to show his long form birth cert firts?
    ***************

    lol – I’ll print up some O’Fish’All ones just in case they need ’em.

  578. Troy Says:

    Last night I was thinking back to when I first joined this blog. I have a one year anniversary coming up next month as I started posting 24 Nov 08.
    *******************************************************
    I have no idea when I showed up here…I got sick of the African Pumpkin Head at API and found this site on Sinclair’s blogroll…I came here and liked the comments I saw and started posting right away….It’s been at least a year and this place has helped the time to fly by…Maybe I will blink and three more years will have passed and so would have Barry.

  579. jrinNC Says:

    Troy the first post I saw for you was on Nov 16, 08. You had taken some kind of meds that apparently had you wired. 🙂 Yeah I came from Pumpkin site too.

  580. joldy Says:

    sdee Says:
    lol – I’ll print up some O’Fish’All ones just in case they need ‘em.
    ———–

    LOL do toss it their treat bag!

  581. joldy Says:

    I think we all came form Pumpkin patch!
    I sure hope he is lonelyover there 🙂

  582. Tenacity Says:

    Anybody seen this? http://www.hourofthetime.com/adltruth.htm

  583. jrinNC Says:

    Gee joldy he’s probably at the bars 😛 Do they even post over there anymore?????

  584. Troy Says:

    Well jr, I guess that on Sunday we will get to see if DC goes boom!

  585. joldy Says:

    jrinNC Says:

    October 23, 2009 at 1:42 am
    Gee joldy he’s probably at the bars Do they even post over there anymore?????

    I have not been back there.
    May be he is selling hand bags again 🙂

  586. Troy Says:

    Ten, I had not seen that yet…I wonder if Pam Geller would be willing to give her opinion on that.

  587. Troy Says:

    I think this thread’s response time is beginning to bog down a little.

  588. sdee Says:

    Very sobering numbers

    Michele Bachman: Medicare is Going Broke, So Let’s Give it to Everyone

    When Social Security and Medicare are taken together, the total unfunded liability is $40 trillion, or about $353,000 per household. By 2013, that total will grow to $54 trillion, or $474,077 per household.

    When we can’t afford the public health plan we have already, does it make sense to expand it?

    That’s exactly what the Democrats want to do with their health care overhaul. The public option by another name is just “Medicare for All.”

    http://michelebachmann.townhall.com/blog/g/03301303-8472-4b3e-bb5e-b5f1d0b1f889

  589. jrinNC Says:

    Troy – I guess so. I doubt it though.

    And yes, we are starting to bog down just a wee bit. Like I said earlier maybe we need to post notice and switch to a previous thread that has fewer comments.

  590. jrinNC Says:

    We got 587 comments here – Thread “She’s Not There” has 88. So do you want to switch??

  591. Troy Says:

    Here is a thread that only has 88 comments.
    https://rosettasister.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/the-next-step-for-health-care-reform-by-ezra-klein/
    The one we’re on now has almost 600.

  592. Troy Says:

    😀

  593. Troy Says:

    NEW / OLD THREAD:

    https://rosettasister.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/the-next-step-for-health-care-reform-by-ezra-klein/

  594. rosettasister Says:

    Hello, everyone! I’m back!

    Thank you for your prayers and sympathies for our loss.

    Anne was a grand old lady and we gave her a grand old sendoff.

    I’ll fill you in on more details about her later.

    Suffice it to say that I’ve included a few hints in the new thread I’ve put up.

    Troy, if you’re around, I’ll check my hotmail later on today.

    And see how you’re feeling about things now.

    Unfortunately, Bill won’t be home later.

    But it will give me time to get caught up.

    Thank you, again, good people.

    Rose

    New Thread:

    https://rosettasister.wordpress.com/2009/10/24/the-kissers/

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