The RosettaSister Gang of Liberty Lovers



Long May She Wave!

We thought it might be fun to attach a face to the personalities we’ve been communicating with.

I’ll be updating this post each time I receive a new photograph.

— SisterRosetta




I am a retired Govt Contracting Officer with over 32 years service.
I moved back to my original home in New Bern NC after I retired in 2003.
I have a daughter who just recently moved here also- she is 34 and I have a son, who is 32 and he lives in Orlando, Fl.  Neither are married so I am not a Grandma.
Unfortunately or fortunately I am no longer married.  Been divorced for 19 years. Felt 3 times put me out of the ball game – LOL.
I am an extremely independent and outspoken person.  My pet peeve is stupidity. My hobbies include reading (my Bible, Christian romance and Christian prophecy) and working in my yard, which is over 3-1/2 acres. I have quite a menagerie of animals – two Pekingese’s (Bucky and Cindy Lou), four kitties (Binx, Rainey, Socs, and Speckles – Speckles is new and she was born with only one front leg), three birds, cockatiel – Piper, two parakeets, Jazzy and Kippy), an aquarium full of fish, and I also inherited a few weeks ago an outside kitty who has taken up at my home but won’t let me near him.  So all I can do for him is ensure he is properly fed.


Me when I was 26 years old in Charleston SC at the Fort Sumter memorial.


Me and my teenagers at Vacation Bible School.  I teach crafts every year at my church for all age groups.



You all know me as the guy from Texas that, sometimes, writes some pretty outlandish stuff, here at our little blog site.  Yes, it’s true that I can be a bit austere, but I’m really a teddy bear, honest!!!

Since that is about all that you folks know about me, I will share, with you, a little more.  I’m forty-nine years old and single, as of 2002.  My ex and I never had children, so here is a photo of me, in my early forties, with the only two kids that I’ve ever had.  The one on the right is Bear and he lived for 15 & 1/2 years and the other one is Shiner and he lived for 17 years  They were littermates and I found them abandoned at about six weeks old.


I have two favorite hobbies, one of which is fishing, and here are some photos of recent catches.



Rose, yesterday you mentioned kayaks.  Did you notice what is in the bed of the pick-up truck behind me?


My favorite hobby is searching for and collecting Indian arrowheads / artifacts.  I started collecting in my early twenties.  Here is a photo from then of me standing next to a large frame of arrowheads that are surrounding a rattlesnake.  I encountered the snake while out searching through a creek bottom.  I won!!!


Here is a photo from my late twenties in which I display a tiny portion of what is now my collection.  My oldest finds date back to around 12,000 BC and are from the Clovis culture.


BTW, I have had a pretty good summer, in terms of good finds.  Here is a photo of a couple of very nicely made blades.


Some would say that I am an expert in the craft of auto body and paint restoration.

Here is a link to a slide show of and old 1948 Ford Coupe that my father found and purchased.

Click the center to start the show.  You can use the “forward” button in the bottom right corner to speed up the slides.  The slides show the vehicle as it was found and progresses through the restoration phase.  My dad and I, both, did the body repairs, I did all of the paint work and pop did all of the mechanical work.  We spent about 1 1/2 years on it and finished it about four years ago.  It’s quite a gem now.

I worked in the craft for eighteen years and taught / trained others for an additional ten years and I’m now pretty much retired.

Ok, that’s me in a nutshell and as Porky would say, “Ah-blee, Ah-blee, Ah-blee, That’s all folks”!!!

dont tread on me

147 Responses to “The RosettaSister Gang of Liberty Lovers”

  1. rosettasister Says:

    I will continue to post on previous thread, but feel free to post here and/or there.


  2. patriotamy Says:

    Hey Rose, send me an email. I will participate as well.

  3. patriotamy Says:

    jrinNC, Happy to ‘see’ you!

  4. rosettasister Says:

    Okay, amy!

  5. Troy Says:

    Rose, I just emailed you about 5 minutes ago. 😀

  6. rosettasister Says:

    Thanks, Troy!

  7. rosettasister Says:

    Updated Link after deleting old files:

  8. jrinNC Says:

    Wow Rose, didn’t think you would post this fast. Can’t wait to see others.

    Thanks Amy.

    Told everyone I am old – LOL Guess I could have sent a better pic. Will look around Rose for another one that shows me up close.

  9. Troy Says:

    Uhgggg!!!!!….Rose, I forgot to hit spellcheck to correct my typos before sending my email…Can you correct “outlamdish” to outlandish? Thanks

  10. Troy Says:

    jrinNC Says:

    August 20, 2009 at 5:02 pm
    Wow Rose, didn’t think you would post this fast. Can’t wait to see others.
    jr, nice pic!…Do you pilot?

  11. jrinNC Says:

    Troy, I have flown that plane – but only once – was a wild adventure. It belongs to a friend of mine. I could tell you some of the things I have done and it would blow your socks off. All of it associated with my job at a wonderful military unit I was associated with. I have participated in some training that was very scary – even to jumping out of a moving van at 40 miles an hour. Guess I am a daredevil too. 🙂

  12. Troy Says:

    even to jumping out of a moving van at 40 miles an hour. Guess I am a daredevil too.
    WOW!!!….or a crazy person!…hehehe 😉

  13. rosettasister Says:


    j.b. Says:
    August 20, 2009 at 3:22 am

    Do you have my Comcast e-mail addy?



    No, I don’t.

    yahoo addy doesn’t work

    can you log out and then log in with comcast addy?

  14. Troy Says:

    It seems that I have a Gremlin running loose in my computer or something…My posts are not showing up….Grrrrrr

  15. rosettasister Says:

    Guess I am a daredevil too. 🙂


    I used to be a daredevil, no fear.

    Now I am a chicken shit!

    I think I have the heebie jeebies!

  16. jrinNC Says:

    Well I guess you could say that. But it was part of a training exercise I was on. I wasn’t the only one. We practiced several times before the actual event but as I remember I don’t think we were going that fast on the trial runs. All I know is that when it came time for the actual event and I realized we were going so fast I kind of got scared. So one of the guys told me when he jumped for me to jump right behind him and grab hold of his back – LOL – believe that is exactly what I did. Thank goodness he was a big guy so he he support me and him.

  17. jrinNC Says:

    yeah, mine are doing the same thing – when I hit submit it takes me to a blank page and says done. problem at your end Rose????????????

  18. rosettasister Says:

    Troy Says:
    August 20, 2009 at 5:24 pm

    It seems that I have a Gremlin running loose in my computer or something…My posts are not showing up….Grrrrrr


    Everytime I post a comment it seems to go to lala land, but as far as I can tell everything is hunky dory

  19. jrinNC Says:

    Yeah Rose, Now I am a chicken shit too. I would no more do those things again even if someone gave me a thousand dollars – now a million – oh yeah baby bring it on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  20. rosettasister Says:


  21. jrinNC Says:

    Greenpeace Leader Admits Organization Put Out Fake Global Warming Data
    by DefendUSx August 20, 2009 12:02
    Paul Joseph Watson
    Imagine that!!!!!!!!!!! – I bet old Al Gore is doing back flips over that article.

  22. jrinNC Says:

    Don’t know if this has been posted or not – but this is way too much oversight.

    Government Permission Will Be Required to Travel by Air
    by DefendUSx August 19, 2009 13:38
    Michael Ostrolenk, Robert E. Smith, Richard Sobel and Jan Towe

    Starting this year, Americans will have to get government approval to travel by air. As Privacy Journal revealed last fall, henceforth “Permission Now Needed to Travel Within U.S.” Getting a reservation and checking-in for air travel will soon require Transportation Security Administration authorization. That permission is by no means assured: For example, if your name matches a “no-fly” list, even mistakenly, you can be denied the right to a reserve a seat on a flight. If your name is on a “selectee” list, you and your possessions will be searched more thoroughly before you can board.

  23. rosettasister Says:

    I’ve updated post above with Troy’s bio and pics.

    Think I’ve got that right, Troy.

    Thanks, this is fun!

  24. Troy Says:

    Rosie, you did a real nice job of laying that out for me…Thanks!!! 😀

  25. rosettasister Says:

    Thanks, Troy!

    Can you tell I practically did all the layouts for my high school yearbook when I was a junior.

    Which is why I wanted nothing to do with high school when I was a senior!

  26. jrinNC Says:

    Hey Troy – wish I was a few years younger I would set my cap for you – 🙂

  27. Troy Says:

    jrinNC Says:

    August 20, 2009 at 6:16 pm
    Hey Troy – wish I was a few years younger I would set my cap for you –************************
    Hehehe…I sure would like to flying on that airplane!!!

  28. rosettasister Says:

    This was in my inbox:

    sisterrosetta —

    Reminder: The President is holding a National Health Care Forum TODAY for all Organizing for America supporters.

    The forum begins at 2:30 p.m. ET/1:30 p.m. CT/12:30 p.m. MT/11:30 a.m. PT and should last approximately 90 minutes.

    Sign up now to participate:

    This is an incredible opportunity to huddle with the President, ask questions, and discuss how we’re going to pass real health insurance reform this year.

    Talk to you very soon,


    Mitch Stewart
    Organizing for America

    P.S. — At 2:30 p.m. Eastern Time, go here to watch the forum live:

  29. rosettasister Says:

    My husband sent this to me:

  30. jrinNC Says:

    Hey Rose, I sent you an email.

  31. rosettasister Says:

    okay, jr!

  32. rosettasister Says:

  33. jrinNC Says:

    Troy just looked at your slide show on the old ford – Amazing – very nice job – you are very talented.

  34. Troy Says:

    Thanks, jr…So is my dad, from whom I inherited my skills.

  35. rosettasister Says:

    I’ve just updated post above with a couple more pics of jr.

  36. jrinNC Says:

    Thanks Rose – I am glad you did this for all of us here at Rose’s Gang.

  37. Troy Says:

    Great pics, jr!!!…Thanks

  38. rosettasister Says:

    jrinNC Says:
    August 20, 2009 at 6:58 pm

    Thanks Rose – I am glad you did this for all of us here at Rose’s Gang.


    I’m really enjoying this, and looking forward to seeing more photos.

  39. rosettasister Says:

    Report from Farhad M., who was imprisoned from July 9-27,2009

    On the 18th of Tir (July 9), I was walking not far from Fatemi street. The street was busy, but no one was chanting at that time.

    It was about 5:30 when two guys in plainclothes approached me from either side.

    It was interesting that at that moment I had no sense of being part of a demonstration and was just walking normally in the street.

    Still, I was nabbed and put into a car and left there until about 9 pm.

    Everyone in the car was blindfolded the whole time, and then we were driven somewhere.

    Three days later, I figured out that we had been driven to Motahari Street. There we were randomly assigned to an interrogator.

    My interrogation went on until 1 am, but I was not asked any questions.

    I was beaten with a cable and with other things without being asked a single question.

    Unfortunately, I had things in my backpack that made things worse for me: films of demonstrations on my mobile phone and a notebook of writing for my weblog.

    After three days, I was transferred to Evin. Others were sent to Kahrizak. I was lucky to be sent to Evin where I was kept in solitary for one week.

    Twice a day, I met with an interrogator. They did everything to get me to confess.

    To demonstrate to me that they had no belief in anything, they even burnt the Koran in front of me.

    When I was put in the cell with others, I understood that what happened to be was much better than what happened to the others.

    I was not raped.

    *** Among us there were some whose colons had been ripped because of rape. ***

    In any case, I understood that all my conversations during the past three months had been recorded, and that they had everything.

    When they arrest someone and get their telephone number, they look at all of their email, all of their facebook activity, and all of their weblog activity.

    Because I had political posts on facebook, in my weblog, and in private correspondence, the accusations in my file are extremely serious: breaching national security and plans to overthrow the government, for which the worst punishment is execution.

    If you confess you get a lighter sentence, but still you have to have patience and wait for your court date, which has not been announced.

  40. rosettasister Says:

    The face of Abbas Kargar Javid — man accused of killing Neda Soltan

    Dr Hejazi, a student at Oxford Brookes University, had returned to Iran for a business trip after the June 12 election but he fled after featuring prominently in the video of Ms Soltan’s last moments.

    In an interview with The Times after reaching Britain, Dr Hejazi told how Ms Soltan was shot by a basij on a motorbike. As she lay dying, a crowd of demonstrators caught the militiaman and he heard him shouting: “I didn’t want to kill her. I didn’t want to kill her. I meant to shoot her in the leg.”

    Dr Hejazi said that some of the crowd wanted to lynch him but others were saying: “We’re not killers. Don’t harm him.” All agreed that there was no point in handing him over to the police, so they took his identification cards and let him go.

    Brigadier-General Esmail Ahmadi- Moqaddam, the police chief of Iran, has since accused Dr Hejazi of conspiring with the Islamic Republic’s foreign enemies. He faces certain prosecution if he returns home. His British visa expires in January and he is considering whether to seek political asylum for himself, his wife and their infant son.

    In the meantime, he says, “I am here, I see my countrymen suffering so much and the Western media going silent. People are still doing all they can to show their contempt for this fraudulent Government and putting their lives on the line, but no one is listening. I feel really frustrated and sad.”

    Dr Hejazi has been told that opposition supporters found Mr Javid’s telephone number and started calling him to vent their anger but the line has now been disconnected.

    That apart, Mr Javid appears to have killed Ms Soltan with complete impunity.

  41. rosettasister Says:

    E.J. Dionne, Michael Ledeen With Hugh Hewitt

    Hugh goes after Congressman Henry Waxman for his outrageous McCarthyism practiced against insurance executives, talks politics with syndicated columnist E.J. Dionne, then foreign policy and especially Iran with Michael Ledeen of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies.

    Michael Ledeen comes in approx. 24:30

    Mr. Ledeen is a leading authority on the situation in Iran and what the Obama admin. should be doing.

  42. Troy Says:

    As usual, J.B. Williams hits another home run with his hard hitting articles.
    Obama has now become a noose around the neck of every American Democrat

    by DefendUSx August 20, 2009 12:17

    By JB Williams

    It’s now official—the average American is not as stupid as Washington DC Democrats and their international leftist friends thought. Their mystery messiah has already gone from hero to zero after only seven months in power, and Obama has now become a noose around the neck of every American Democrat, and every international fascist who “hoped” Obama could usher in Marxist “change.”

    Nobody can organize a community like a good old fashioned communist thug can. It worked long enough to put a mystery man in the Oval Office, thanks to international socialists working through CPUSA – SPUSA and DSAUSA, funded by literally hundreds of leftist front-groups operating as special interest 527 organizations.

    Here’s a short list of the BIGGEST leftist front groups – America Coming Together – Joint Victory Campaign 2004 – Media Fund – Service Employees International Union – American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees – – New Democrat Network – Sierra Club – EMILY’s List – AFL-CIO – League of Conservation Voters.

    Who spends an obscene $1 Billion dollars to win a lousy $400,000 per year job, and why?
    The people behind Obama expect a return on their investment. And they are NOT the kind of folks you want to disappoint… These folks make Capone look like a choir boy.

    Before the ink was dry on Obama’s fake Certification of Live Birth (not to be confused with an actual birth certificate), Obamanation was off to confiscate control of banking, insurance, energy and auto manufacturing. Before they knew what was happening, the American people woke up the proud new owner of Government Motors and $13 Trillion in debt.

    But it wasn’t until Obamanation tried to confiscate control of 1/7th of the US economy by nationalizing the private American health care industry that the people took to the streets in protest.

    On the heels of dozens of angry Town Hall meetings turned public tar and feathering parties for countless career DC bureaucrats, Obama and his Democrat partners in crime found themselves in a historic freefall from popularity among average American taxpayers. Eight months into office, Obama has bounced Jimmy Carter from his famous position as America’s worst president.

    The people behind the puppet in our Oval Office did what leftists always do. They over-estimated themselves, under-estimated the American people, and over-played their hand. They actually thought that Americans would sit quiet as unbridled leftists trampled all over 300 million Americans.

    That was the good new….
    As Obama becomes an anvil chained around the neck of DC and international leftists, he becomes a liability to their agenda. These folks have an interesting way of dealing with political liabilities.

    Losing control of their agenda and in a power-slide towards the bottomless pit of political has-beens, Democrats are desperate to keep their international friends at bay. But at the same time, being career politicians always focused on self-preservation, they must find a way to get re-elected by people ready to lynch them in Public Square.

    Obama has foolishly allowed himself to be pushed into a no-win position, in his unlikely quest to “make history” by becoming the first “black” mystery messiah allowed to sit at the big desk with his finger on the red button.

    In short, he’s in way over his head, just as many worried would be the case with a freshman politician complete with blank r√©sum√©. Nancy “crazy as an out-house rat” Pelosi is no help and Harry Reid is headed for the political boneyard no matter what.

    Teddy Kennedy is in no position to lead the young lad out of the woods, and wannabes like Chucky Schumer and Bawny Fwank will soon be looking for an escape hatch of their own.

    Time to Bring in the Heavy Artillery and Circle the Wagons

    Since Obama just won’t become the “transparent president” he tricked so many voters into voting for, the issue of his constitutional conflict won’t go away. $1.35 million in legal defense fees later, the demand to see proof that he passes Article II requirements is getting louder.

    Despite around the clock media efforts to paint every constitutionally conscious American a “right-wing racist Timothy McVeigh,” the people seem only further agitated by the leftist suggestion that NO American citizen has “proper standing” to question their employees (elected representatives) on even the most fundamental questions.

    Obama’s problem with Americans isn’t the mulatto color of his skin. It’s the bright RED color of his belief system and agenda. He is undoubtedly making mentors like Saul Alinsky, Frank Marshal Davis and Bill Ayers quite proud. But he is clearly losing the support of many Americans in that effort.

    Before the dissent gets any wider spread, they have to do something.

    Out of nowhere comes Obama’s “experts” on national security, the Southern Poverty Law Center. At the time of SPLC’s founding, Julian Bond, who currently chairs the NAACP, was named the fledgling group’s first President.

    On the basis of these folks, Obama’s Department of Homeland Security issued a “Right-wing Extremist” threat analysis, labeling every American with a gun or bible, or willing to publicly oppose Obama, a “potential domestic terrorist.”

    Yesterday, British newspaper The Independent published a story titled The right-wing crackpots taking over the mainstream, in which British leftist writer Rupert Cornwell proceeds to assault all American citizens who are currently speaking out against Obama’s “global” agenda, and warns of coming civil unrest, and of course, his authority on the matter is the Southern Poverty Law Center.

    From the report, one SPLC official says, “every element is in place for a “perfect storm” of home-grown extremism. For the first time, the detested federal government is run by a black man.”

    There ya have it! That was easy! It’s all about the “black man!”

    “A struggling economy fuels discontent, with illegal immigrants accused of stealing American jobs.”—Or is it that unemployment has doubled to the highest level since the great depression, under the “black mans” brief administration?

    “The military, long a breeding ground of the far right, is sending home veterans in vast numbers.”—Yes, those crazed military veterans…

    And don’t forget… “Finally there is the internet, which simultaneously propagates and intensifies the feelings of true believers—and the conspiracy theories they devour.”—The so-called “birthers” have made headlines all over the world?

    Clearly, Cornwell received his talking points memo from David Axelrod, who obviously got his from the Southern Poverty Law Center. The Observer got the memo too, and they wasted no time attacking every American at odds with Obama’s agenda.

    It’s American Patriots against the world, or at least the leftists of the world.

    Cornwell concludes, “So might not elements even further to the right enter the fray—“sovereign citizens” who believe they are above the law, or the new “Oath Keepers” movement, of soldiers and police officers past and present, who believe their duty is to the constitution, not to elected politicians? Perhaps the healthcare rallies and the SPLC report were no coincidence, after all.”

    Well, let me just say that I think Obama’s life could in fact be in danger, but not from Tea Party protesters, Town Hall protesters or so-called “birthers.” All of these folks are well aware of the reality that assassinating the first “black” president would be counter-productive to their agenda.

    The Obama press has been burning the midnight oil trying to make certain that Hillary Clinton’s “right-wing conspiracy” ghosts were set up to take the fall for any misfortunate event that might befall an increasingly unpopular president. No “right-winger” is likely to even break wind in Obama’s direction.

    His leftist international friends are quite another story however…

    These are BIG buck—BIG socialism folks who play by no particular set of rules, like George Soros. As Obama becomes more of a liability than an asset to their cause, it is his own people who are most likely to make a martyr out of the mystery messiah.

    In the British Observer, writer Paul Harris is even more extreme in his column, Fears for Barack Obama’s safety as healthcare debate fuels extremism … and once again, we see the report from the Southern Poverty Law Center.

    The stage is being set… If anything happens to Obama, the entire world has been put on notice that Americans opposed to socialism from a “black” nobody president who won’t even release his birth records, are responsible.

    This leaves the door wide open for Obama’s own friends to commit the crime with impunity, as they have already placed the American patriots’ finger-prints on the imaginary murder weapon.

    It would be the perfect crime blamed on the perfect right-wing storm. It’s brilliant!

    The leftist press around the world has already accused and convicted “right-wingers” of the murder. Talk about your grand conspiracy… Nobody does it better than the international leftist cabal.

    But who is this Southern Poverty Law Center responsible for all of the recent “hate speech” aimed at constitutionally concerned American citizens opposed to bankruptcy-by-communism in America?

    In 2007, SPLC identified 888 separate “active hate groups” in the United States.

    Despite the events of 9/11 and an ongoing threat of additional terror strikes here and abroad, not one of the 888 “active hate groups” identified was Islamic. Detroit Michigan had more violent killings than Iraq and Afghanistan combined, but none of the groups responsible for those killings made the list of 888.

    Only white, capitalist, constitutionalist, Christian, pro-freedom, in other words, “right-wing extremists” made the list.

    Black on white crime is not “hate.” Black on black crime is not “hate.” Muslim on Christian crime is not “hate.” According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, only white, Christian, capitalists opposed to Marxism and attending Town Hall meetings are guilty of “hate.”

    That’s what their report says, and everyone from Obama’s DHS and FBI to England’s press has bought that report hook, line and sinker.

    I too fear for Obama’s life… But not from any of the people attending Tea Parties or Town Hall meetings in an effort to talk with their elected representatives.

    I fear that Obama’s life is increasingly in danger from the very people who put him in power – The people he is currently failing, as the American people stand up to stop his secular socialist global agenda.

    I am 100% opposed to the Obama administration and today’s Democrat agenda. But I am here to tell you that the worst thing that could happen in America today is for Obama to be assassinated. Every Obama opponent knows this. He would be safest if he were guarded around the clock by American conservatives opposed to his entire agenda.

    Only his leftist partners around the world would benefit from his assassination. Their agenda would move forward unchallenged if anything were to happen to Obama or his family.

    As his agenda meets with serious resistance at home, his puppet masters abroad will lose faith and eventually, their patience. Only a freshman senator would have fallen for the trap Obama finds himself in today.

    He can’t win… If he’s very lucky, he can only live to tell about it one day.

    Obama has spent an entire lifetime surrounded by some of the world’s worst thugs. If he is unable to move their agenda forward, his life will be at risk from within his own ranks.

    However, the nation and the world will pay a heavy price, as both are being conditioned to blame it on average Americans who simply oppose all forms of intrusive tyrannical government.

    As Obama’s agenda is shut down by average Americans, his friends will turn on him. Liberals are already warning him not to back off on nationalized health care. But the people are not going to allow it to go forward.

    Even though I oppose everything Obama is and everything he stands for, I pray for his safety. You can bet your last dollar… his well organized community is falling apart as his agenda begins to crumble. They will be very motivated to ignite a second civil war as they watch their agenda die a brutal political death.

    Nothing would ignite a second civil war faster than the assassination of Barack Hussein Obama. I can only pray that the Secret Service does not take their cues from the Southern Poverty Law Center. If they are no better at understanding political security than British op-ed pages, Obama’s life is indeed in danger.

    Not from so-called “right-wing extremists” angry over Obama’s blatant disregard for the Constitution today. But from within his ranks, as those who placed him in power, become saddled with his failures.

  43. Troy Says:

    Fax NOW – STOP ACORN TAXPAYER FUNDING (8 Billion allocated and counting)

    by DefendUSx August 20, 2009 14:17

    The Obama-ACORN Anti Gun Conspiracy

    ACORN — the Association of Community Organizations for Reform — a publicly funded national organization is using your tax dollars to actively interfere with the Second Amendment exercise of gun rights in New Jersey and elsewhere.

    ACORN went public with its gun control activism when it intervened in an unsuccessful attempt to defend Jersey City, New Jersey, a hot bed of anti-gun rights extremists, to disarm its citizens with a local gun control ordinance. ACORN pushed for stronger local gun restrictions that were already struck down by the New Jersey state court as a violation of state law.

    Obama and ACORN’s interest is in disarming law-abiding citizens.

    It is an outrage that this group has intervened to defend an anti-gun ordinance that has already been declared illegal by the court. So long as ACORN accepts one penny of public funding, the organization should remain absolutely neutral on social issues, political campaigns and especially legal actions defending the right to keep and bear arms.

    For the past few election cycles ACORN has clearly grown more partisan toward the radical political Left. ACORN’S PAC, in fact, endorsed Sen. Barack Obama for president, even though their tax-exempt status prohibits endorsement of political candidates. That’s hardly surprising since he used to serve as their legal counsel and he taught the group about community organizing. ACORN and Obama are lockstep in seeking to destroy our Second Amendment rights.

    We call upon the FBI to expand the scope of its ACORN investigation and focus on the group’s involvement in the Jersey City case.

    We support Ohio Congressman John Boehner’s request that the White House immediately block all federal funding of ACORN activities until this group’s questionable activities are fully investigated. We want to know how they are paying for attorneys, and why Seton Hall’s Center for Social Justice and the Public Interest Law Center are providing legal assistance to ACORN for this effort.

    ACORN has, since 1998, received an estimated $31 million in government funding. Yes, Obama knows a great deal about ACORN and its role in the bailout mess. He is a central figure in the left-wing ACORN exploitation of financial institutions to pressure them to make high risk loans. The very same left-wing ACORN that was sued for voter fraud in our last presidential election.


    Obama’s presidential campaign paid more than $800,000 to a front of ACORN, currently under investigation in a dozen States for voter registration fraud and bribery schemes, for “get-out-the-vote-efforts”;

    Obama co-sponsored legislation called the “Helping Families Save their Homes in Bankruptcy Act of 2007″– that was supported by ACORN and protects them from prosecution and any responsibility for causing the largest financial crisis since The Great Depression.

    “Bad enough that ACORN is implicated in fraudulent activities in several states, but now an ACORN chapter in the Garden State is working against the ability of New Jersey gun owners to exercise a constitutionally protected individual civil right to own a handgun,” said former NYPD detective, Sid Frances.

    This is still the United States, not a socialist gulag. Public money should not be given to private organizations which then turn around and utilize that funding to usurp the electoral process and erode constitutionally guaranteed civil rights.

    The fact that the federal government would even consider using ACORN as part of its 2010 Census to disenfranchise gun rights supporters is cause for Americans to be very concerned.

    All that seems to be on the minds of Anti-Gun Obama and at the offices of gun control extremists is figuring out how to invade your privacy to erode and eventually destroy the right, and the means, of self-defense.


    Like all other threats against our freedoms, we must rise and cut off all federal funding to ACORN.

    In order to stop Obama and his fellow gun-grabbers-we need to let the Congress know with thousands of faxes telling them to stop ACORN and leave guns alone.

    Americans like you who understand what our Founding Fathers envisioned for our nation…and who are willing to fight to defend our Constitution and for what it stands.

    So please, help the Second Amendment Foundation and me defeat those who wish to gut and trash the United States Constitution.

    Help me flood the U.S. Senate with a sea of FAXES big enough to drown each and every Senator willing to vote away the Second Amendment.

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  44. rosettasister Says:

    The Mahdi Replies

    On July 12, the Iranian news agency ISNA published a letter written by
    Chief of Staff Hassan Firouzabadi to the Shi’ite Messiah, the Hidden Imam.

    He asked for assistance for the regime, defended the brutality of the Basij against peaceful Iranian demonstrators, and laid blame for the disturbances on the West.


    Your letter puts the blame on the satanic foreign infidels, with their tricky lies and their diabolical “velvet revolution.” But they are not the cause of the rage against you.

    They have not caused the near-epidemics of drug addiction and prostitution, the rage from unpaid workers, the anger of women whose value has been officially reduced to half a man’s.

    You did that.

    You did a lot of that in my name, as a matter of fact, which doesn’t go down well here at the bottom of my well.

    You want to use an ‘iron hand’ to establish an order favorable to you, but I am all about chaos and confusion, out of which I will bring an order sanctioned by the Almighty, blessings be upon him.

    You talk about a “Basij philosophy.” What in the world is that?

    Do you really believe that I am going to forgive you for the slaughter of my people?

    Am I supposed to help you slaughter even more?

    Is that what “Basij philosophy” means?

    The End of Days, when I return to lead the glorious jihad against the infidels, will come about when the faithful are inspired to follow me, not beaten into passive submission by brutal self-proclaimed advocates of an undefined doctrine that justifies cruelty to my people.

    Are you building an army of tortured and broken followers? Are those the warriors you will deliver to my banner?

    If so, the infidels will have an easy time of it, I fear.

    At the moment, dear Hassan, as you have well described it, the faithful seem to be of quite a different spirit.

    They want to be free to pursue the dictates of their own minds and inner moral instincts.

    If you want my help, you should do everything possible to help them fulfill this admirable desire.

    We can continue this chat if you wish. As you see, I do not wait three decades to share my thoughts.


    The Lord of Time

    P.S. How did you get my email address? That is truly a profound mystery.

  45. rosettasister Says:

    President Obama hits the airwaves to defend Democrats’ health care proposals, reports Bill Plante.

    Jeff Glor talks to Mitt Romney who praises the Massachusetts health care plan as a model for reform.

  46. Troy Says:

    Sinclair questions the Obots.

  47. Troy Says:

    Jeff Glor talks to Mitt Romney who praises the Massachusetts health care plan as a model for reform.
    MA’s plan is a miserable failure…Romney just sunk any chance he had of a 2012 run…Thank God!!!….One more globalist down and countless others to go.

  48. rosettasister Says:

    Thanks, Troy! I didn’t know Larry was still uploading videos.

  49. rosettasister Says:

    Romney defends Mass. plan

    A growing sense in the Republican Party that health care reform of any kind is the enemy, and attacks on the Massachusetts plan from Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, appear to have prompted Mitt Romney to launch a defense of his legacy in that state, which now insures far more of its residents than any other.

    Romney defended his plan on “The Early Show” this morning, and

    also called into Sean Hannity’s radio show yesterday to differentiate his plan from Obama’s (and offer some praise for the beauty of … New Hampshire.)

    “You can have portable insurance, you can have everybody covered, and you don’t have to have government insurance,” he told Hannity, maintaining a stance of pride in his plan while objecting to some features added by the state Legislature.

    In response to complaints about cost, Romney said his state’s plan was “entirely in keeping with the original projections” and that the costs were “modest,” with any cost increase being the fault of the Legislature.

  50. Troy Says:

    “Kill All Change”: Joker Head Henchman Confirms That Losing Health Bill Will Empower GOP

    August 20th, 2009 Posted By Erik Wong.


    A top Obama ally predicted Wednesday in an interview with ABC News that Democrats will lose their congressional majority in next year’s midterm elections if they fail to put a health-care reform bill on President Obama’s desk.

    “I think we’re talking losing control of Congress,” said Andy Stern, the president of the Service Employees International Union. “[The failure of health-care reform] would totally empower Republicans to kill all change.”

    “It’s hard to imagine the Democrats convincing the public that Republicans are to blame for health-care reform going down when the Democrats have such large majorities,” he added. “After last year’s promise of change, voters will start feeling buyer’s remorse.”

    Stern, who was invited to sit with the Obama family during the president’s inaugural parade, is watched closely on health-care reform not only because of the labor muscle he wields as the head of the 2-million member SEIU but also because of the effort he has made to work with business groups: in 2007, he started “Divided We Fail,” a coalition which joined SEIU and AARP with the Business Roundtable and National Federation of Independent Business to promote the general principle of universal health care coverage.

    Stern did not tie his 2010 prediction to the inclusion of a public option in the final bill. He did, however, warn that dropping a public option could “unravel” support for the more modest package of insurance reforms that President Obama began emphasizing last week.

    “If there is going to be a mandate without real cost control and without an adequate subsidy, it’s hard for us to go to our members and say, ‘you have to buy insurance even though we know you can’t afford it’,” said Stern.

    Since lawmakers have already decided not to pursue strict regulations on insurance premium increases, Stern said that a public option is the only real cost control mechanism on the table. Without the cost control provided by a public plan, Stern says it would be difficult for SEIU to support an individual mandate which would require all adults to purchase health insurance.

    If support for an individual mandate collapses, it will become difficult for the Democrats to help those with pre-existing conditions who are currently denied coverage in the individual market. The insurance industry has made clear throughout the process that it will fight guaranteed issue and community rating tooth and nail if it does not get a new federal requirement that all adults purchase insurance. The insurance industry says that an individual mandate must go hand-in-hand with guaranteed issue and community rating because customers will otherwise avoid buying insurance until they are sick.

    In addition to viewing a public option as vital to cost control, Stern is also concerned about the reach of the subsidies that are being proposed and suggested that they will be inadequate if members of the Senate Finance Committee were to limit them to 300 percent of poverty.

    As for the idea of creating a co-op instead of a government insurance option, Stern said it was a non-starter.

    “There is no way that a co-op can compete with Aetna or United American,” said Stern.

    He signaled that a more acceptable compromise might be to create a public option whose creation is only triggered if certain circumstances are met.

    “It’s obviously better than no public option,” said Stern.

    While warning of grave consequences if the Democrats fail on health-care reform, Stern said that he is optimistic that Senate Democrats will find a way forward, possibly with the help of Maine Sen. Olympia Snowe (R).

    To help Democrats get the votes that they need, Stern is prepared to use SEIU resources to pressure recalcitrant Democrats in Congress if progress is not made by Sept. 15, the deadline which Senate Finance Committee negotiators have set for themselves.

    For now, however, he is holding his fire against fellow Democrats since the president has signaled through his staff that he does not want Democrats shooting at one another.

    “We call it: ‘helping the president be successful,’” said Stern with a smile. “I think Democrats find a way forward in the Senate when they stop believing that they’re going to get [Iowa Sen. Chuck] Grassley and [Wyoming Sen. Mike] Enzi.”

  51. igaveup Says:

    Hey Rose

    Liked the pics and stories of everyone.

    question for troy, “is that a mullet i see?” 😉

  52. Troy Says:

    New LC

  53. Troy Says:

    question for troy, “is that a mullet i see?”
    In 1982 ?… I guess it’s possible…The gals seemed to like though. 😀

  54. igaveup Says:


    Liked the pics. Looking pretty hot! 😉

  55. igaveup Says:


    Just read Lame Cherry.
    Wondering if Ted Kennedy would still be alive under “obamacare” or if he would already be gone and Mass would have another Sen.?

  56. rosettasister Says:

    Value added tax (VAT)

    Another look at the VAT

    Chris Edwards of the Cato Institute notices that several New Europe countries are raising their VATs to deal with huge budget deficits and concludes thusly:

    1) VATs are handy money machines for governments.

    Governments fear raising income taxes during recessions because of concerns over damaging their economies.

    But they have less such concerns with respect to VATs.

    2) International tax competition continues to generate pressure for countries to keep income tax rates down.

    Policymakers don’t want businesses and investment capital fleeing abroad for lower taxes, particularly during economic downturns.

    VATs are generally less damaging to economic growth than income taxes.

    But the flip side to that widely-understood result is that politicians have less fear about using them to grow the size of governments during good times and bad.

    See also:

    Meltdown 101: Value-added tax on Washington radar

    Q: So how likely is a VAT to be adopted?

    A: It’s unlikely in the short term and anyone’s guess beyond that.

    It could become a big issue after midterm elections in 2010 if rising deficits increase the urgency for new revenue and the Obama administration gets behind it.

    Burman, who has worked closely with Democratic lawmakers, suspects there’s already a consensus in both the House and the Senate, with a significant number of Republicans among them, that a VAT is needed. But that doesn’t mean it has real political support.

    “The number who are willing to say so in public, you can probably count on one or two hands,” said Burman, now a professor at Syracuse University’s Center for Policy Research. “So I wouldn’t bet a lot of money on a VAT happening any time in the next few years.”

  57. Troy Says:

    So Rose, do we have any other entries into our Patriot Show and Tell, today?

  58. rosettasister Says:

    Troy Says:
    August 20, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    So Rose, do we have any other entries into our Patriot Show and Tell, today?


    I haven’t checked my inbox in a bit, but I did email grammy, j.b., cynka and amy and expect to hear from them.

    j.b.s was “Returned to Sender” so I need for her to log out and log back in with an addy that works.

  59. Troy Says:

    There is an extremely simple solution to the national healthcare issue…Simply pass a law in which ALL gov employees healthcare benefits will expire on Jan, 1st, 2010 and everey single American, with no exceptions, will be placed under the NEW plan….In the blink of an eye we would see the finest healthplan ever known to mankind, be proposed and instituted and it would be done in record time….Fockers!!!

  60. rosettasister Says:

    August 19, 2009

  61. rosettasister Says:

    Not sure if this is what Tenacity posted earlier:

    New U.F.O. Documentary ‘I Know What I Saw’

    August 19, 2009 CNN

  62. rosettasister Says:

    Pelosi Says She Can’t Pass Bill Without Public Option

    ‘Bureaucratic Nightmare’

    The public-option concept has been criticized by Republicans such as Wyoming Senator Mike Enzi, who say they might be willing to support the overall legislation. Enzi is among a group of six senators working on a bipartisan compromise in the Senate Finance Committee who are scheduled to discuss the legislation by telephone this evening.

    “For millions of Americans, the government-run plan would turn into a bureaucratic nightmare,” Enzi wrote in a USA Today opinion piece yesterday. “In the finance committee, six of us leading the negotiations are working from the premise that there will not be a government-run plan.”

    Enzi and other negotiators plan to convene at 9 p.m. Washington time today for about 1 1/2 hours. The group is led by Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, a Montana Democrat, and also includes Republicans Charles Grassley of Iowa and Olympia Snowe of Maine, as well as Democrats Kent Conrad of North Dakota and Jeff Bingaman of New Mexico.

    Still Negotiating

    The finance panel is the only one of five congressional committees with jurisdiction over health care still working on a plan. Instead of a public option, the senators in the finance negotiating group are considering allowing the creation of nonprofit cooperatives that could get government seed money.

  63. rosettasister Says:


    Total Approve 50%

    Total Disapprove 50%

  64. Troy Says:

    New from Leo:
    US Defense Security Service Guidelines, Federal Statute 50 USC 435 and Executive Order 12968 Indicate That Various Agency Heads Should Deny President Obama Access To Classified Information.

    Posted in Uncategorized on August 20, 2009 by naturalborncitizen

    A thorough review of national security clearance guidelines and federal statutes indicates that various heads of government agencies in charge of disseminating classified information should deny access to classified information to President Obama unless and until he undergoes a statutory background check and achieves a proper security clearance.

    This article stipulates that it is common practice for the FBI to grant full security clearance to elected officials such as Congressman and Senators. The same courtesy has been extended to the office of President and Vice President. This is done in recognition that these elected officials represent the will of the American people.

    However, federal law mandates that if such courtesy conflicts with national security then agency heads are expected to deny access to classified information. In President Obama we have a Commander In Chief who admits to having been a British citizen as well as a citizen of Kenya. Furthermore, President Obama may still be a a British citizen and/or subject. He may have also been a citizen of Indonesia.

    We just don’t know the answers to these questions because he just won’t answer them.

    US Defense Security Service guidelines are very clear in that persons with past allegiance to foreign nations are to undergo security checks to determine whether such allegiance is dangerous to the US:

    Conditions that could raise a security concern and may be disqualifying include:

    a. The exercise of dual citizenship;

    b. Possession and/or use of a foreign passport;

    c. Military service or a willingness to bear arms for a foreign country;

    d. Accepting educational, medical, or other benefits, such as retirement and social welfare, from a foreign country;

    f. Residence in a foreign country to meet citizenship requirements;

    g. Using foreign citizenship to protect financial or business interests in another country;

    h. Seeking or holding political office in the foreign country;

    h. Voting in foreign elections; and

    i. Performing or attempting to perform duties, or otherwise acting, so as to serve the interests of another government in preference to the interests of the United States.

    Conditions that could mitigate security concerns include:

    a. Dual citizenship is based solely on parents’ citizenship or birth in a foreign country;

    b. Indicators of possible foreign preference (e.g., foreign military service) occurred before obtaining United States citizenship;

    c. Activity is sanctioned by the United States;

    d. Individual has expressed a willingness to renounce dual citizenship.

    Above Information Courtesy of Defense Security Service (DSS) (Emphasis added.)


    The government security guidelines examine whether the person has renounced his foreign citizenship. The issue of whether Obama is still a British citizen or subject must be addressed by a proper US government background clearance examination since it appears President Obama has never renounced his UK citizenship or subject status.

    A forthcoming report at this blog will detail the intricacies of British nationality law with regard to whether President Obama is currently under the domain of the UK. But this should be done by our government officials as well. If he is under their domain, he’s also under the domain of the European Union.

    Federal Statute 50 USC 435. Executive Order 12968.

    50 USC 435 is the federal statute concerned with the classification of sensitive information. It empowered Executive Order 12968 which was enacted by President Clinton in 1995. These laws provide the Executive Branch rules for granting security clearance to classified information.

    EO 12968 exempts the President and the Vice President from having to pass a security clearance examination. However, both 50 USC 435 and Executive Order 12968 contain the same exact safety provision empowering agency heads to deny access to classified information upon their own discretion.

    50 USC 435 states:

    Subsection (a) of this section shall not be deemed to limit or affect the responsibility and power of an agency head pursuant to other law or Executive order to deny or terminate access to classified information if the national security so requires. Such responsibility and power may be exercised only when the agency head determines that the procedures prescribed by subsection (a) of this section cannot be invoked in a manner that is consistent with the national security.

    Executive order 12968 Section 5.2 (e) states:

    (e) This section shall not be deemed to limit or affect the responsibility and power of an agency head pursuant to any law or other Executive order to deny or terminate access to classified information in the interests of national security. The power and responsibility to deny or terminate access to classified information pursuant to any law or other Executive order may be exercised only where the agency head determines that the procedures prescribed in subsection (a) of this section cannot be invoked in a manner that is consistent with national security. This determination shall be conclusive.

    Since the President and Vice President are exempted from these regulations, the regulations can’t be invoked in a manner consistent with national security. As such, any agency head who determines that providing the President with classified information is inconsistent with national security may withhold such information.

    According to law, such a determination is conclusive. No review is even possible.

    President Obama should submit to a full security clearance examination before a national crisis takes place. Agency heads who continue to provide classified information to President Obama do so at the risk of national security. President Obama was a citizen of at least two foreign nations and his passport history is unknown. It appears that he may still be legally subject to the monarchy of Great Britain. This would trigger issues concerning the Master Nationality Rule whenever Obama stands on British soil.

    These issues are not trivial. But for Obama being President, he would have to provide everything discussed in the Defense Security guidelines. He is also charged with enforcing those very same guidelines. How can he enforce them with a straight face if he’s never submitted to them himself?

    President Obama has never officially renounced or denied his British citizenship. And he has admitted that he was a British citizen at birth. His past is so intertwined with various other nations that it is impossible, without a proper security clearance examination, for agency heads to forward classified information to him without concern. Government agency heads in charge of releasing classified information have the undeniable legal right to deny the President classified information.

    Until President Obama’s passport and citizenship status in other nations is thoroughly determined, agency heads who forward him classified information do so with unknown risks to national security.

    There are too many unknowns with regard to past allegiance to foreign powers for such information to be passed on safely. Agency heads cannot afford to be shy or afraid of backlash. Their decision is legally conclusive.

    There is no transparency here and I do not see why the President himself is not calling for a proper background check on himself.

    Why put the agency heads in this position?

    It would be a proper start to necessary transparency if Obama would discuss whether he’s ever held a foreign passport and whether he’s ever traveled under a foreign passport. He should also take the official steps necessary to renounce his prior foreign citizenship.

    That’s what a statesman would do.

  65. Troy Says:

    So, who are the REAL racists?….Simple, it’s the ones that keep screaming racism.

  66. rosettasister Says:

    More troops for Afghanistan?

    As Afghanistan holds its presidential election today, Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) received a “chilling assessment” of the country’s security from General Stanley McChrystal, whom she believes will soon ask President Barack Obama to send more troops to the war-torn country.

    “He begins with his chilling assessment that the situation in Afghanistan ‘is serious and deteriorating,'” Collins writes in a blog entry following an official trip to the country with Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.), Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) and Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.).

    The Maine centrist said there was a “great deal of discussion” on whether to send more troops to the country, and McChrystal, who is in charge of U.S. forces in the country, will report his recommendations to Obama in September.


    McCain: Troop Levels in Afghanistan Should be ‘Significantly Increased’

    The former presidential candidate, who’s currently in the country as part of a Senate delegation, says he thinks doubling the number of Marines in Helmand Province would bring “significantly more success.”

  67. rosettasister Says:

    Al-Qaida emerges as main suspect in Iraq bombings

    Gen. Ray Odierno, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, blamed al-Qaida in Iraq for a series of bombings in northern Iraq but said attacks in Baghdad have been harder to define as the military has detected political motives behind some recent violence.

    “There might be attempts to influence the formation of coalitions,” he said Monday.

    The political fallout from Wednesday’s bombings was swift and went mostly against al-Maliki, who has campaigned on the strength of improving security over the past two years.

    Sunni Vice President Tariq al-Hashemi, a longtime critic, called for an independent probe into the bombings and warned against a whitewash. Visibly angry, he also called on parliament to interrupt its summer break and convene to question security officials.

    “If security continues to deteriorate, al-Maliki’s image will undoubtedly suffer,” said Salim Abdullah, a Sunni lawmaker. “What happened yesterday was a huge security failure that suggests negligence or complicity.”

    Mahmoud Othman, a Kurdish lawmaker, also linked the uptick in violence to politics.

    “Partisan differences contribute to chaos in the country. National reconciliation remains incomplete. It is important for ending the violence,” he said.

  68. rosettasister Says:

    US ‘deadline’ for Afghan results

    The head of US Central Command, Gen David Petraeus, has said international forces have about a year to prove their strategy in Afghanistan can succeed.

    Gen Petraeus said people who doubted whether the war in Afghanistan was winnable should remember why it was being waged.

    “When Afghanistan was a sanctuary for al-Qaida and other transnational extremists we saw what they did. That is a development that we have to prevent,” he said. “That’s why President Obama has identified this as a war of necessity, not a war of choice.”

    Gen Petraeus refused to be drawn on whether more troops were likely to be sent to Afghanistan by the US and other Nato member states, saying that it was ultimately a decision for politicians.

  69. rosettasister Says:

    Know Your Enemy

    Maulvi Faqir Mohammad

    Deputy Says He Will Lead the Taliban in Pakistan

    The deputy head of the Pakistani Taliban said Wednesday that he was temporarily assuming the helm of the militant group because its leader, Baitullah Mehsud, was ill, although Washington and Islamabad have said that Mr. Mehsud almost certainly was killed by a recent missile strike.

    The announcement by the deputy leader, Maulvi Faqir Mohammad, was another sign that Taliban commanders were jockeying for power after the reported death of Mr. Mehsud in an Aug. 5 missile strike in northwestern Pakistan’s tribal belt.

    A captured Taliban spokesman reportedly acknowledged to authorities on Tuesday that Mr. Mehsud was dead, but other commanders have insisted he is alive.

  70. rosettasister Says:


    August Holidays and Trips to Wyoming

    Looking ahead, we have the Jackson Hole meeting over the weekend.

    Punditry is scrutinizing the alleged disunity among central bankers, and is expecting currency volatility should the elite of the official sector not come to a common vision in the manner they did just one year ago.

    But, hey, things looked very spooky one year ago.

    The sky had fallen, in fact.

    Show disunity then, and perhaps you will be relegated to a dark corner of the room this year.

    Anyway, we will await announcements from wonderful Wyoming without inhaling.

    No, not the one about the putative ‘fix-it all banking holiday’ of August 24.

    You know, the one that is floating around on the urban myth sites, the one that is supposed to finally give you the chance to barter your stash of silver Eagles for some Wonder bread down at the mini-mart.

    C’mon Harry Schultz followers, turn down the noise.

    It sounds too much like Y2K minus 1.

    Dollar devaluation, chaos, Mad Max, and all.

    (Why do these people always talk in riddles?!)

  71. rosettasister Says:


  72. rosettasister Says:

    Peter Schiff we are in worse shape than we were 6 months ago

    Aug. 17 2009


  73. rosettasister Says:

    Peter Schiff on Fox Business Warren Buffett is Dead Wrong 19 Aug 2009

    The Price of oil will be above $200 a barrel by the end of Obama’s term
    we are already falling off the cliff , the time to put on the brakes is way gone we have to do with the damage , the inflation will hit and hard ,

    Buffett is dead wrong about inflation and the actions of the government who have done nothing but digging us into a deeper hole ….

  74. rosettasister Says:

    Peter Schiff on FBN Warren Buffett is Dead Wrong

  75. igaveup Says:

    Scary stuff.

  76. rosettasister Says:

  77. rosettasister Says:

    This is a fund we’ve had luck with in the past. May be safer than Dollars. I don’t know.

    CGM Mutual LOMMX


    G. Kenneth Heebner
    Lead Manager since 01-Jan-81

    Heebner is general partner and portfolio manager with Capital Growth Management, instrumental in helping launch the firm in 1990.

    Previously, he spent 12 years as the head of the portfolio management group for Loomis Sayles & Company. Heebner also served as vice president with Scudder Stevens and Clark from 1971 to 1976. He began his career in 1965 as an economist with A & H Kroeger. Heebner holds the Chartered Financial Analyst designation.

  78. Troy Says:



    A white college couple was kidnapped, sexually assaulted and brutally murdered by a group of black criminals in Knoxville, Tennessee.

    The brutal crimes occurred in January of 2007 yet the story has been virtually absent on the vast majority of the mainstream media.

    Channon Christian and Christoper Newsome were college students when they were carjacked and kidnapped.

    Both Channon and Christian were savagely raped and tortured by five blacks before being murdered. Christopher was led to train tracks where he was shot execution style, doused with gasoline and set afire. His charred body and face were unrecognizable. Channon was kept alive a few hours longer and was repeatedly raped vaginally, anally and orally by the savages. Her privates were ripped by the savagery of the attacks. Channon suffocated in a garbage can where she was stuffed once the murderers were finished with her.

    Wednesday (19 August 2009) was the first day for the first of the four defendants to be tried.

    No word on this trial from the mainstream media.

    No protest marches from Reverends Al and Jesse.

    No “take back the night” protests from the NOW lesbians. No filings from the ACLU that Channon and Christopher’s civil rights were violated.

    The four monsters are not even being charged with hate crimes.

    In case you forgot, whites can only commit hate crimes.

    Consider if a young black couple had been abducted by white trash and savagely been sodomized and murdered.

    We saw the media frenzy at Duke University when a group of white lacrosse players were falsely accused of raping a black stripper!

    Where is the media circus now?

    The mainstream media has blatantly shown itself to be anti-white, anti-Christian and anti-American. The goal of mainstream media is to trash all that is traditional and sacred to Americans.

    The mainstream media has no shame.

    Channon and Christian deserve better.

    We deserve better!

    I certainly hope the Tennessee jury sends that group of human trash to death row quickly and their time there will be short.

    Lethal injection is way too good for that scum!

    I suggest putting baseball bats in the hands of the fathers, brothers and uncles of the victims and locking them in a room with the killers. That would be a much better form of justice.

    Mainstream media…your silence is deafening!

    Here is the local Knoxville TV news story:

  79. rosettasister Says:

    I honestly believe these two are better off dead, and I mean that.

    IMBY (in my backyard): This from The JAG HUNTER audience (click here)

    Follow real time coverage of the Christian-Newsom trial with reporter’s Twitter postings

  80. rosettasister Says:

    BTW, if anyone emails me bio/pics, I will update this post tomorrow morning.

  81. jrinNC Says:

    May God Bless You Chalice – Federal Grand Jury petition filed, Breaking news, August 20, 2009, Chalice radio, Attorney Stephen Pidgeon, US District Court in Washington DC
    Posted on August 21st, 2009 by David-Crockett

    I have been reading the petition which is 181 pages – Exhibit 4 – is a signed affidavit by Reverend Kweli Shuhubia – He is the person who was actually interviewing Obama’s Kenyan Grandma and relaying all this info by phone to Bishop McRae.

    This is the first time I have seen this affidavit or even heard about it. All I have ever heard was the youtube of Bishop McRae and the interpreter talking to Grandma Sara.

  82. jrinNC Says:

    Hey folks, that 181 page document is long, but believe me it has got it all covered from just about every angle.

  83. Tenacity Says:

    Let’s Talk Liberty starts in 45 minutes 9pm Eastern, 7 pm Mountain

    Call-in Number: (347) 215-6929

  84. Tenacity Says:

  85. rosettasister Says:

    jrinNC Says:
    August 21, 2009 at 12:07 am

  86. rosettasister Says:

    Petition to convene Fed GJ – Patriot’s Heart Network

    DC TRIP! – Patriot’s Heart Network

  87. rosettasister Says:

    Thanks, jr!

  88. rosettasister Says:
  89. rosettasister Says:

    Berg v Obama – Kweli Shuhubia Affidavit

  90. rosettasister Says:

    Join Red Beckman and Terry Dodd tonight for Let’s Talk Liberty. We will be discussing several topics tonight including the North American Union, the Ron Paul campaign and ways to “Turn Off The Power” to Washington D.C. Our guests tonight are Linda Honeycut, a Ron Paul Campaign person, and John from Texas.

  91. rosettasister Says:

    I had to refresh a few times, but I can hear Tenacity now.

  92. rosettasister Says:


    Philip J. Berg V. Obama et al; Affadivit of Reverend Shuhubia

  93. jrinNC Says:

    Obama says ‘We are God’s partners in matters of life and death’

    A reader points out that President Obama’s call with the rabbis today — as recorded in Rabbi Jack Moline’s and other clerics’ Twitter feeds — freights health care reform with a great deal of religious meaning, and veers into the blend of policy and faith that outraged liberals in the last administration.

    “We are God’s partners in matters of life and death,” Obama said, according to Moline (paging Sarah Palin…), quoting from the Rosh Hashanah prayer that says that in the holiday period, it is decided “who shall live and who shall die.”

    The president ended the call by wishing the rabbis “shanah tovah,” or happy new year — in reference to the High Holidays a month from now.

    All I got to say is that Bambam better be careful what he says about God.

    My pastor had actually been bragging about his health, he is 73. He did this for 2 weeks. Well guess what – he got bitten by a black widow spider and it knocked him for a loop. MERSA set in the wound and the venom was in his blood stream and urine. It has definitely set him back and he looks even 10 years older now and is still weak. I told him he shouldn’t have been bragging and he said that was the first thing that crossed his mind when he got bad off.

  94. rosettasister Says:

    I wonder if Kweli Shuhubia has ever refuted these claims:


    Many birthers, such as Pennsylvania attorney Phil Berg, allege that Obama was born in Kenya and that his Kenyan grandmother is on tape saying that she was present at his birth there.

    Yet the tape circulated on the Internet doesn’t actually say that — and the full tape actually contradicts it.

    On the tape, the woman thought to be Sarah Obama is prodded by a Berg ally who’s a self-described bishop from the U.S. to affirm that Obama was born in Kenya.

    “Was she present when he was born in Kenya?” Bishop Ron McRae asks in the taped phone call.

    “She says yes she was. She was present when Obama was born,” says the voice of translator.

    The tape ends abruptly.

    Despite Berg’s assertions, the response didn’t actually confirm a birth in Kenya. Moreover, a longer version of the tape shows the elder Obama decidedly denying a Kenyan birth immediately after the first tape was cut off.

    “I would like to go by the place, the hospital where he was born. Can you tell me where he was born? Was he born in Mombasa?” McRae is heard asking.

    “Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America,” the translator says after talking to the woman.

    “I thought he was born in Kenya,” McRae asks again.

    “He was born in America, not in Mombasa,” says the response. Another response later says, “Obama in Hawaii. Hawaii. She says he was born in Hawaii.”

    Still, the charge has spread despite no evidence that Obama was born in Kenya and compelling evidence that he was born in Hawaii.

    See also:

  95. sliderblaze Says:

    call me crazy, but i’m feeling really good about the 2010 elections… ha

    i also find myself just randomly asking “where’s the birthcertificate” as an answer to commonly asked questions…. u know how many perticipents you can get doing that…. we do it at work, all day long….it’s funny everytime..

  96. sliderblaze Says:

    whats new btw people.

    troy looks like my dad

    dad, is that you?

  97. Troy Says:

    sliderblaze Says:

    August 21, 2009 at 2:16 am
    whats new btw people.

    troy looks like my dad

    dad, is that you?
    Roflmaooo….You never know…I was quite the ladie’s man in my younger days, Son!!!…Hehehe 😉

  98. goferit Says:


    Very informative show tonight. Thank you and all the guests!
    Thanks Rose for posting the reminder.

  99. Troy Says:

    This could very well end up being a landmark case that everyone should keep their eye on…This will set a precedent of whether Sharia / Islamic Law will prevail over American laws within the jurisdiction of the United States of America…If this teenager is forced to go back to her Islamic parents she will be murdered / “honor killing”….If that happens then the U.S. judge responsible for it should be brought up on murder charges and sent to prison for life…This site has been posting updates as they come.
    Extremist Ohio mosque becoming focus of Rifqa Bary custody dispute
    Tomorrow afternoon, Rifqa Bary’s fate will be in the hands of a Florida judge. Rifqa fled her Ohio home last month claiming that her father threatened to kill her for converting from Islam to Christianity. As I noted previously, all schools of Islamic law proscribe death for Islamic apostates. For that reason, Rifqa fled to Florida and ended up on the doorstep of a pastor she had met through Facebook. A judge has temporarily placed her with a foster family until the court determines whether she should be turned over to Ohio authorities, who have already stated their intention to send Rifqa back to her parents.

    One of the central issues that Rifqa’s attorney, John Stemberger, will be raising tomorrow is the extremist mosque that her parents attend – the Noor Islamic Cultural Center. As Stemberger argued in a petition with the court submitted earlier this week, the extremism of the Noor mosque, its direct links with designated terrorists, and the overall extremism of the Islamic community in Central Ohio pose a direct threat to Rifqa if she is returned:

    The child’s parents are devout followers of Islam and members of the extreme Noor Islamic Cultural Center in Columbus, Ohio. This is where the internationally known Hama cleric, Salah Sultan, was the resident scholar before being banned from the United States. Salah Sultan is known as a global terrorist who publicly advocates the killing of Americans and Jews. The largest cell of Al Qaeda operatives was operating from the largest mosque in the Columbus area. Columbus is one of the cities under current investigation concerning the U.S. operations of Al-Qaeda. The child is a target for the radical Muslim community of Columbus, Ohio.
    Nearly two years ago, investigative reporter Erick Stakelbeck went to Columbus to examine the Noor Center’s ties to terrorism and the mosque’s resident scholar, international Hamas cleric Salah Sultan:

    More here:

    Watch the videos and you’ll get the message.

  100. Troy Says:

    Great show tonight, Ten!!

  101. Troy Says:

    Crap!!!…This one speaks for itself.

  102. Troy Says:

    This crack head needs to make up his mind.

  103. Troy Says:

    The boys over at HillBuzz have been coming back to life here lately.

  104. Troy Says:

    Good for Germany…This shit has to STOP!!!!

  105. Troy Says:

    “All wee-weed up” and nowhere to go
    By Michelle Malkin • August 20, 2009 07:06 PM

    Is this some Chicago phrase I don’t know about?

    Is it just a nonsensical scatalogical reference?

    Is this the teleprompter’s fault?

    Maybe it’s some sort of SEIU code phrase?

    Or is it a Hawaiian thing?

    Can someone clue the unwashed masses in, please?

    Via The Hill:

    President Obama is betting on a more successful September than August, when it comes to his bid for healthcare reform.

    At an online forum on healthcare held Thursday at the Democratic National Committee (DNC), Obama drew on his own political experience to predict better fortunes next month.

    “There’s something about August going into September where everyone in Washington gets all ‘wee-weed’ up,” the president said.
    Huh?….Is he saying that they have all been hitting on the bong?

  106. carribeansoul Says:

    Well, I just had to jump in here on this one Troy! (I still lurk….) This of course is my hometown and I’m in Nashville now so I’m pretty interested in the outcome.

    I’ve been watching this/these murders since the beginning. I don’t think I have ever been so sickened by something in all my life. I’m just having a hard time believing there are folks on this earth that would do this. It’s way worse than what you have posted. is the local paper that is carrying the trial and all info on all the cases. You ought to go there and read the police report. Hate crime??? Oh hell yeah! There are videos there as well from the courtroom and to watch her father just breaks your heart. He looks like it’s all he can do to keep from jumping the scumbag.

  107. carribeansoul Says:

    well THAT didn’t turn out right! 🙂

    Troy Says:

    August 20, 2009 at 11:36 pm

  108. Troy Says:

    Todat was the first that I heard of it and it pissed me off!!!…Of course its a “hate crime”….Bastards!!!

  109. carribeansoul Says:

    I think the parents had something to do with it not going public. In the beginning all kinds of folks were sending it to Fox and the others and no one would pick it up. The parents had said something to the effect that they didn’t believe it was, but I don’t believe that. I think they just didn’t want it to turn into a circus and justice not be served and they get what’s coming to them. It has taken 2 1/2 years to get to this point. That’s just riduculous. And the poor parents will have to sit through 5 trials listening to what happened to their children over and over again. This WILL end up exploding eventually. The emotions are way too high there right now. I mean..when I was growing up there, it was known as the last white town in America! So, you can only imagine the undertones of what is really going on!

  110. Troy Says:

    This guy slaps the crap out of ’em.

  111. Troy Says:

    Obama’s Congress Vows Forceful Takeover of American People Imminent
    by DefendUSx August 20, 2009 19:50
    By Sher Zieve Thursday, August 20, 2009
    Since the 2006 Congressional elections—when leftist Democrats took over the majority of both the US House of Representatives and Senate—the dye was cast for the takeover of the lives of the American people. Then, the Dictator-in-Chief Barack Hussein Obama was placed into the office of the presidency. At that point, the Democrats had two of the three branches of government in their greased pockets. Obama vowed to push all of his Socio-fascist programs through, despite any and all opposition. And he and his minions are now pushing as hard and as fast as they can. The current forceful pushes are firmly against the American people.

    Beginnings of Takeover—Part 1
    The US “economic failure” began with the 2008 15 September $550B electronic run on US banks. By the way, this……………

    The rest is here:

  112. Troy Says:

    Auto dealers all across the country are being “stiffed” by the federal gov on the cash4clunkers scam….Good luck getting your money you fools!!!

    Why in the hell would anyone want these crooked bastards involved in their healthcare in any form or fashion?

  113. Troy Says:

    Hey Terry, could you and Red have a look at this video and offer some feedback?…Thanks!

  114. Tenacity Says:

    If they only new that I get most of my inspiration at Rose’s Gang…Rose’s Gang Rocks!!!

  115. Troy Says:

    The Joker Stops In To Support Law Breaking Squaters Becoming Citizens
    August 20th, 2009 Posted By Greywolfe.

    From The Hill.

    Advocates for creating a pathway to citizenship for millions of illegal immigrants pushed Homeland Security Janet Napolitano to be a more forceful voice on the issue at a White House meeting Thursday.

    But despite the low-key approach by Napolitano and others in the administration on the issue so far, advocates took heart when President Barack Obama made an unscheduled visit to the meeting and reiterated his support of pushing through a comprehensive immigration package this Congress.

    Obama urged leaders to work together in order to pass comprehensive immigration reform. Advocates took the presidential visit as a sign of the administration’s commitment to the issue.

    “It shows the president is committed to fixing the country’s immigration system. He is committed to moving forward and that he needs our help,” said Ali Noorani, executive director of the National Immigration Forum. “He said ‘The American people want to see change.’”

    Read the rest of the story here:
    Hey crackhead, the system is broken, you jackass!!!….Enforce the current laws and secure the border, you dipshit!!!!!

  116. Troy Says:

    Grrrr…That should have been, … the system isn’t broken, ….


  117. Fernley Girl Says:

    A fifty-year-old cartoon warning about the political future of the US.
    Posted at CW by USA Partiot=shout.

  118. Fernley Girl Says:

    In conjunction with Troy’s post:

    Troy Says:
    August 21, 2009 at 4:15 am

    Obama’s Congress Vows Forceful Takeover of American People Imminent
    by DefendUSx August 20, 2009 19:50
    By Sher Zieve Thursday, August 20, 2009

    Here’s a link to a 30 minute video about how we ended up at Sept 15. Does say who, just how. Our whole economy is getting gamed big time.

  119. Troy Says:

    Here’s a link to a 30 minute video about how we ended up at Sept 15. Does say who, just how. Our whole economy is getting gamed big time.
    It should be crystal clear that a high ranking member or MEMBERS within the SEC were in on the heist….It was an inside job.

  120. sdee Says:

    Interesting how immigrants understand perfectly what our Founders created.

    IBD published a letter from a reader, a Russian immigrant, on its editorial page. It reflects well what I learned gowing up from my immigrant father.

    It is one to read for our youth, fools and other blind idealists unable to see what the political elite have in mind.


    “”In the USSR, economic equality was achieved by redistributing wealth, ensuring that everyone remained poor, with the exception of those doing the redistributing.

    Government-controlled health care destroyed human dignity.

    When I came to America in 1980 and experienced life in this country, I thought it was fortunate that those living in the USSR did not know how unfortunate they were.

    Now in 2009, I realize how unfortunate it is that many Americans do not understand how fortunate they are.

    They vote to give government more and more power without understanding the consequences.””

  121. sdee Says:

    Fernley Girl Says:
    Here’s a link to a 30 minute video about how we ended up at Sept 15. Does say who, just how. Our whole economy is getting gamed big time.

    Great video Fernley. Also, I paused it and watch the other slideshow he recommended. This explains the exploitable parts of the securities system a bit better.

  122. sdee Says:

    Fernley Girl Says:
    Here’s a link to a 30 minute video about how we ended up at Sept 15. Does say who, just how. Our whole economy is getting gamed big time.

    Great video Fernley. Also, I paused it and watched the other slideshow he recommended. This explains the exploitable parts of the securities system a bit better.

  123. ryansgrammy Says:

    Fernley Girl — that cartoon is amazing. When I watched I was prompted to look up something I’ve been thinking about for a few days — the House Un-American Activities Committee. Too bad they did away with that committee in 1975. Now it appears that the communists are crawling out of the woodwork — many of them going to their offices in the White House and on the hill!

  124. ryansgrammy Says:

    Troy — those fish are unbelievable — what kind are they? Sure makes our little fish in my river look pathetic 😀 Your collection is great — what a neat hobby! My grandfather (born in 1890) used to collect Indian artifacts from in and around a creek in Annapolis — have no clue what happened to all of the stuff he found over the years.

  125. ryansgrammy Says:

    jr — Its so nice to see your face — I was shocked to see a female — just assumed you were a guy — sorry (jr = Junior). New Bern’s a great area — we’re down that way quite a bit — our Marine — who is now retired was out of Cherry Point and lives down in that area. Our little Ryan is there so we have to visit him at least once a month and my favorite cousin lives in Goldsboro.

  126. jrinNC Says:

    Thanks grammy – LOL – Nope I’m female – jr are my initials.


  127. ryansgrammy Says:

    This has a nice ring to it — Impeach Congress — its all about the Grand Jury.

  128. ryansgrammy Says:

    Another good one from RomanticPoet — on communist subversion and takeover of this country. As I type those words its all like a bad dream and so unbelievable — but I am wide awake now along with others in the silent majority and we’re ready to take back our country!!!!!! From Rose’s gang to Rose’s Patriots!

  129. jrinNC Says:

    This is why Israel will be attacked in the future:


    Fascinating news out of Israel.

    It’s just been announced that the massive natural gas discovery made earlier this year off the coast of Haifa is actually 16% larger than thought just a month ago. And last month’s assessment is 30% higher than the original estimate made in January. According to Nobel Energy, Inc. — a major partner in the exploration and drilling effort — it turns out there are an estimated 207 billion cubic meters of natural gas out there, not 178 billion.

  130. ryansgrammy Says:

    jr — listened to the video you posted and he cited some 215 VA document — checked it out and voila — its on the web — so much for it being a secure document about terrorism!

  131. ryansgrammy Says:

    I was listening to America’s Right yesterday and they mentioned this about axelrod making big bucks — sounds like a big conflict of interest to me!

  132. ryansgrammy Says:

    An on axelrod, this is a joke if I ever heard one!!!!! Talk about audacity — he’s lecturing on “Integrity in Public Service” — what does this turkey know about integrity. Loved one of the comments — “what’s next — the NFL selling football jerseys for dogs with Michael Vicks name and number on them”

  133. ryansgrammy Says:

    Please Dear Lord help us (and I mean it). How many people liberals can we fit on the Space Station??? Picked this up off of Michelle Malkins site.

  134. ryansgrammy Says:

    The reason I posted this link is for the picture — take a look at obammy!

  135. ryansgrammy Says:

    Okay I’ve talked so much this am I’m getting hoarse (he!he!). One more thing before I head out:

  136. Troy Says:

  137. Fernley Girl Says:

    Good morning. Sorry about the typo from late last night. Should have said the video “doesn’t” say who, just how. Stayed up too late! It seems like I have more and more sites to visit to keep up with all the news. Am I nuts, or was there less news to follow when Bush was in office?

    Rose, I’m still trying to find a photo of me……..I’m always on the backside of the camera.

  138. Fernley Girl Says:

    Just went over to CW’s to see what good links were there. AL posted this link. It’s stuffed full of info. Be sure to scroll down far enough to read the quote from JFK made just before his assassination.

  139. jrinNC Says:

    Hey Troy – glad you posted that you tube “What Have We Done”

    That is the one I referenced on here but couldn’t find the actual You Tube to post it.

    I think this is so funny.

  140. Tenacity Says:

    Fernley Girl,
    That Harding College video is a great find. Harding is supported by the same un-denominational church group that I grew up in and teaches the same Biblical principles that I espouse. Men like Ira North, my personal childhood spiritual mentor, came out of Harding. It’s just common sense…which the world seems to be quite short of today. David Lipscomb University, Oklahoma Christian, Pepperdine & Abilene Christian University are of the same mind. In my opinion, these are the best colleges in the country today as they have not been liberalized like the rest.

  141. Fernley Girl Says:

    This guy will make you smile. A patriotic paisan with an interesting chunk of info.

  142. ryansgrammy Says:

    Great video! Check out the attendees at yesterday’s meeting on immigration reform. Walmart was there too!!!!! We talked about Walmart again at our tea party meeting last night because of their partnering with SEIU on healthcare. This new president of Wallyworld (as of Feb 2009 I think) seems to be taking them down the path of destruction! Look at the moderators too — hopefully those people working for homeland security have been checked out to make sure they are citizens (unlike are prez) 😀

    I can’t wait until the silent majority expresses their views when they try to shove amnesty down our throats too!

  143. Fernley Girl Says:

    Here’s the JFK video, just in case you didn’t open the eboards link.

  144. ryansgrammy Says:

    This article reminds me of that scene from the movie “Dave” when the VP comes back from some tour of Africa with a headdress and spear!!!

  145. rosettasister Says:

    New Thread with ryansgrammy bio/pics. And it’s her birthday today!

    Happy Birthday, grammy!

    Also, goferit and cynkading emailed me so I will be putting up their info a little later on.

    j.b. – I still need your Comcast addy – if you log out and then log back in with that addy, then your comment will go to moderation and then I can email you.

    Patriotamy – “fontier” addy didn’t work, so I sent to “frontier” which seems to have worked, hope that was you

    New Thread:

  146. KoolAid_Free_Lexi Says:

    I received a reply from ConAgra.
    Anyone else get any responses?

    August 21, 2009

    Dear Mrs. xxxxxxx,

    Thank you for sharing your perspective with us regarding our decision not to advertise during the Glenn Beck show. Like many other advertisers, we work through a media buyer to purchase time on broadcast stations during periods when our targeted demographic is likely to be watching. Our advertisements are never intended to support or endorse a particular program, and we do not determine our media purchases based on interest groups or political agendas.

    Regarding this decision, we want to be clear that ConAgra Foods is firmly committed to diversity. That commitment is not related in any way to a political or special interest group agenda-our commitment to diversity is core to our company’s values. In addition, our advertising objectives-including reaching our targeted demographic-can be accomplished without the use of purchased air time during the Glenn Beck show.


    Consumer Affairs
    Ref: 052582453A


    Seems like she’s saying ConAgra doesn’t need consumers from the Beck audience??? Losing them won’t hurt a bit???


  147. KoolAid_Free_Lexi Says:

    Behind again. Ten around?

    I’m reading more on the illuminati, their Scottish roots, etc.

    Wasn’t it a Scottish gal that had some sort of dream/vision that formed the church’s modern view of a pretrib rapture?

    Also, I remember reading here about preparedness, (which helped me tons, TY all) — back when I was just a lurker. Jesus said flee. Might want to have some portable stuffed packs stashed in the car, on the job, etc, in case there’s no returning home.

    And, someone else (I can’t remember who) mentioned a haven on their property — invited the gang to meet together there. I’d like that information if still available and if the offer is still good. Maybe Rose could get that to me or get my addy to the Offerer??

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