Wishing Well

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wishing-well

http://fineartamerica.com/profiles/mikki-alhart.html

Take off your hat, kick off your shoes
I know you ain’t goin’ anywhere
Run ’round the town singin’ your blues
I know you ain’t goin’ anywhere.

You’ve always been a good friend of mine,
But you’re always sayin’ “Farewell”
And the only time that you’re satisfied
Is with your feet in the wishing well.

Throw down your gun you might shoot yourself.
Or is that what you’re tryin’ to do?
Put up a fight you believe to be right
And someday the sun will shine through.

You’ve always got something to hide
Something you just can’t tell
And the only time that you’re satisfied
Is with your feet in the wishing well.

And I know what you’re wishing for
Love in a peaceful world
Love in a peaceful world
Love in a peaceful world

You’ve always been a good friend of mine,
But you’re always sayin’ “Farewell”
And the only time that you’re satisfied
Is with your feet in the wishing well.

free fire and water

http://www.4shared.com/file/122750962/7444e0ea/01_Wishing_Well.html

http://www.4shared.com/file/122751013/fb6f1a51/02_All_Right_Now.html

http://www.4shared.com/file/122751104/7dd2d484/06_Dont_Say_You_Love_Me.html

http://www.4shared.com/file/122751151/70cfd44e/07_Sail_On.html

http://www.4shared.com/file/122751214/668f5b9c/08_Mr_Big.html

http://www.4shared.com/file/122751258/b55d2b3/09_My_Brother_Jake.html

http://www.4shared.com/file/122751298/a7e09dbf/13_Fire_And_Water.html

http://www.4shared.com/file/122751322/a503c75d/14_Travelling_Man.html

http://www.4shared.com/file/122752116/98722b07/All_Right_Now.html (Long Version)

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348 Responses to “Wishing Well”

  1. Bones Says:

    First! 🙂 I’ve always wanted to do that.

  2. rosettasister Says:

    Bones,

    I must say it sure does my poor heart good to see you around here.

    Sure seems like old times.

    Rose

    Post Script

    Bones — that was the name of one of your dogs, no?

  3. Bones Says:

    Yeah! My dalmatian… He used to dance and howl uncontrollably when we would say his name, we had a song to go with it: B-b-b-b- BONES BOY, B-b-b-b- BONESEY BOY! So that’s the origin and mystery of my screen name (see, I’m not a “boy” in any sense… ).

    Oh, and I never went anywhere Rose, I’m just kinda quiet sometimes! 😉

  4. rosettasister Says:

    I remember now! I thought your name had a Star Trek connotation.

    My screen name pays homage to Sister Rosetta Tharpe, BTW.

  5. j.b. Says:

    http://catherinefavazza.com/2009/08/03/2996-too-many-bloggers-needed-to-join-project-2996-to-honor-victims-of-september-11th/
    Hey, Rose, check this out!

  6. j.b. Says:

    http://www.survivalistseeds.com/ABOUT_ME.html
    Anyone able to vouch for this guy?

  7. rosettasister Says:

    Thanks for turning me on to that, j.b.

    What a great idea!

  8. rosettasister Says:

    Here’s an oldie but a goodie!

    Good night, good people!

    https://rosettasister.wordpress.com/2008/07/19/ssisterrosetta/

  9. Troy Says:

    I just spent several hours going through over a thousand posts ay FR and the BC isuue/mystery is far from settled or solved….Do you folks remember our troll that we finally got rid of, Koyaan?…..It appears that he may be involved in the fiasco…Several other genuine Australian BCs have been compared and none of them are even remotely close to the Bomford BC…There are quite a few other irregularities also…The info within the two docs, KBC and ABC, should be enough to get a definitive answer….It’s fair to note that Obot assholes at Democratic Underground discussed waging a campaign to plaster the web with thousands of different KBC forgeries with subtle differences…I think I’ll just wait until the info contained within the docs is confirmed or debunked…The docs really don’t mean squat…It’s the info within that matters.

  10. igaveup Says:

    I saw the post at FR which linked to the Koyaan nut job.

  11. Troy Says:

    It seems that the ABC was was inserted on to Bomford family site from an outside non Bomford source.

    http://www.politijab.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=2099

  12. igaveup Says:

    I think that just about everyone can agree that Barry is hiding something on his original BC. I think it’s about baby daddy.

  13. igaveup Says:

    Troy,

    really? I couldn’t stomach reading that thread at politjab again. So many kossacks and Dumpster’s congratulating themselves. It seemed to convenient. Like everything is today with photoshop and all the computer stuff.

    Barry’s hiding something. All the time lines and Ann’s college education time lines are strange. Right after she has Barry, several weeks later she pops up in Washington to attend college with a month old baby. No word where Barack Sr. was as this time. I suppose in HI. “Married” to Ann (supposedly) and Ann’s parents in HI at this time. Where was little baby Barry?

    Whole story smells, and not of roses.

  14. igaveup Says:

    No offense meant to Rose, 😉

  15. Troy Says:

    It seems that Koyaan also likes to cut and paste other people’s words and post them as his own and take credit for someone else’s deeds.
    ********************************************************
    To: Calpernia
    Looks like the “original” may be a fake, too.

    See
    http://www.bomford.net/worcestershire/images/DavidJeffreyBomfordBirthCertDoc65.jpg.

    Someone posted this elsewhere:

    I wanted to see if I could find any images of similar documents from Kenya around the same time period that could be compared to the certificate on the web. I spent several hours with Google image search on that before I decided to broaden my search outside of Kenya-specific documents.

    It was some time later that I finally spotted a thumbnail on one of the results pages that looked very much like the Kenyan certificate. I pulled up the full size image and found that it was virtually EXACTLY the same type of document.

    It was a scanned image of a “Certified Copy of Registration of Birth” dated in 1964 for a David Jeffrey Bomford on a genealogy website for the Bomford family. Except that David Jeffrey Bomford wasn’t born in Kenya, he was born in South Australia. But what was even more interesting was certain other features of the document as compared to the Kenya certificate.

    The names of the registrar and the district registrar were the SAME NAMES as given in the Kenya certificate save for the first initials, i.e. G.H. Lavender and J.H. Miller in the Bomford document versus E.H. Lavender and M.H. Miller in the Kenya document.

    Also, the book number (44B) and page number (5733) were the exactly the same on both documents.

    The image of the Bomford certificate seems to prove beyond any doubt that not only is the Kenya certificate a fake, but that whomever faked it used the Bomford certificate as the template.

    291 posted on Monday, August 03, 2009 6:09:52 PM by Technical Editor

  16. igaveup Says:

    I noticed that on the previous thread, ten posted a link to the “outing” of Polarik.

    Koyaan is over there posting, criticizing polarik and tech dude’s credentials (which may or may not need criticizing and debunking) but Koyaan is him or herself speaking as if an expert. ha.

  17. igaveup Says:

    Troy,

    just checked over at FR saw this on the thread. I had seen Tech Editor’s posts, and sounded knowledgeable, but what do I know?

    To: truthfreedom

    “but it looks like the Aussie doc is the fake – created after the Kenyan doc surfaced. Koyann is banned and Technical Editor might be next to go.”

    So then it might not be a fake?

    6,026 posted on Monday, August 03, 2009 10:49:45 PM by Sophia777

  18. igaveup Says:

    I’m not sure of Tech Ed’s posting history. I’ve been at FR for over 10 years now, but only posting for 9.

  19. Troy Says:

    More than likely Tech Ed is the person that piggybacked the fake Aussie BC on Bomford’s site.

  20. igaveup Says:

    There is a whole thread up on that, well over 1000 posts. Pointing out the differences. With a mention about “Koyaan” from Rose’s blog. Guess we all swim in the same ponds. 🙂

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2307402/posts?page=1139#1139

    BTW, I found this post about Koyaan:

    http://rosettasister.wordpres s.com/2008/08/

    “Maybe Steve Ellis, aka Koyaan, has Tourette Syndrome. It certainly is a good possibility, because he seems to have no self control over his use of foul language, especially lots of swear words related to excrement, when he is on his own blog, or on mine. He is also a pathological liar.

    Yet, he knows that he cannot get away with being a potty mouth on FR, and he wonders why he was banned. BUT, he’s lurking out there, trolling around here for things that he can denigrate on his cesspool of a blog.

    He’s a 25 year old teenager.

    He calls you, “Kevmoron,” but I’m the one who really drives him bonkers. He keeps devoting whole posts to me, with such creative titles as “Again, Polarik is full of “s**t” and pithy comebacks like “And Polarik wonders why I called him a f**king retard.”

    My advice is to either ignore him, or to leave your posts on his blog, and see how he likes it.

    He’s reminds me of a squashed bug on the windshield: annoying, but not worth stopping to clean it off.”

    It says it all. Koyaan forged the “Australian” hoax, using a template from Ms.Taitz jpg and the data found on the Bomford genealogy site.

    He is such a moron, that he gave himself away with the fish-smelling little “story” posted on http://www.politijab.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php? f=25&t=2099&start=0#p54695:

    “After having spent (wasted?) nearly a year in the trenches of Birthistan, I decided several months ago to “retire” and move on, save for dropping by here once in a while to keep in touch with some of the friends I’d made here. And then yesterday this Kenyan birth certificate thing seemed to explode like Krakatoa on the Internet. It was claims about Obama’s Hawaiian certificate being a forgery that suckered me into all this stuff last summer, and I guess I must still be a sucker for a good birth certificate story because I decided to look into this one. I wanted to see if I could find any images of similar documents from Kenya around the same time period that could be compared to the certificate on the web. I spent several hours with Google image search on that before I decided to broaden my search outside of Kenya-specific documents. It was some time later that I finally spotted a thumbnail on one of the results pages that looked very much like the Kenyan certificate. I pulled up the full size image and found that it was virtually EXACTLY the same type of document. It was a scanned image of a “Certified Copy of Registration of Birth” dated in 1964 for a David Jeffrey Bomford on a genealogy website for the Bomford family. Except that David Jeffrey Bomford wasn’t born in Kenya, he was born in South Australia. But what was even more interesting was certain other features of the document as compared to the Kenya certificate. The names of the registrar and the district registrar were the SAME NAMES as given in the Kenya certificate save for the first initials, i.e. G.H. Lavender and J.H. Miller in the Bomford document versus E.H. Lavender and M.H. Miller in the Kenya document. Also, the book number (44B) and page number (5733) were the exactly the same on both documents. The image of the Bomford certificate seems to prove beyond any doubt that not only is the Kenya certificate a fake, but that whomever faked it used the Bomford certificate as the template. Here’s a scaled down image of the Bomford certificate:”

    QED
    1,139 posted on Monday, August 03, 2009 9:34:12 PM by Marguerite (When I’m good, I am very, very good. But! When I’m bad, I’m even better)

  21. Troy Says:

    He knew.

  22. igaveup Says:

    Indeed he did.

  23. ryansgrammy Says:

    I was very curious about HRCs trip to Kenya but I checked and it was announced in late July. 😦

    http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2009/july/126522.htm

  24. jrinNC Says:

    Obama Fingerprints
    http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/

    Great Article ——

    Tenacity – Here is another clue to his location –

    “While I do not have my Naval lab pixel refinement here in the mount,”

    I just love how he puts little tidbits into his location.

  25. Bones Says:

    Troy, the one thing I thought in favor of the ABC being a fake, is that whoever supposedly discovered it was probably its creator, because finding that particular ABC, that’s a needle in a haystack… I’d like to see the search screen that led to that one!

    So… yeah. Who knows. Yup, just have to see how it unfolds and move on to other issues…

    Rose, yes indeed, I had another dog named Spock. You remember the Star Trek connection correctly! However, my current cadre seem to be Trek-free… for now…

  26. Bones Says:

    Troy… hmm.

  27. Bones Says:

    Rose, what would be a good song to convey that feeling “… it seems I’ve been here before…” ?

  28. ryansgrammy Says:

    Hopefully there will be lots of pigeon’s flying over the vicinity of 1600 PA Avenue (actually the backside “E” Street I believe). 🙂

    http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//090803/ids_photos_ts/r3995144343.jpg/

  29. willie b. Says:

    I saw on a dem blog the other day that the person claiming to have “discovered” the Bomford BC is none other than the poster some of you may know as KOYAAN. I recall when koyaan posted on these blogs and appeared to me to he used deception regarding his motivation. Anyone have any further insights into this? I wish I had bookmarked the page I recently saw but in any event, it was indeed a post from someone using the moniker koyaan. The obots on the site were bouncing off the walls with excitement and throwing accolades such as “genius” at koyaan for his “discovery”.

  30. ryansgrammy Says:

    From Alan Keyes –

    http://loyaltoliberty.blogspot.com/2009/08/obama-eligibility-where-is-loyal.html#comment-form

  31. sdee Says:

    Spengler on a serious milestone in Turkey. Obama reigime knows something are irreversible.

    —————————–

    “”A friend in Turkey calls my attention to a dramatic reform of the Turkish education system favoring graduates of Islamic religious high schools, calling it the most important developing in the country since 1923:

    Turkey has now crossed a Rubicon of sorts by commiting itself to support of insurgnt Uyghurs in Western China. And Turkey’s involvement evidently helped persuade Russia and China to close ranks against Islamists across Central Asia. There is now an arc of instability from Ankara to Islamabad, with Iran at dead center.

    The Obama administration, through fecklessness, propitiation, and incompetence, has made matters immeasurably worse.””

    http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/spengler/2009/08/03/madrassification-of-turkey/

  32. cynkading Says:

    Awwww Rose, you remembered and put up a thread about Paul Rodgers and Free…..Thank you so much : ) Still hoping and praying that Orly’s document will somehow will turn out to be authentic. Heard any updates as of yet?

  33. ryansgrammy Says:

    So I wonder how long this guy will be chairmain of the Commission of Civil Rights after these remarks.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/aug/04/panel-demands-panther-answers/?feat=home_top5_shared

  34. cynkading Says:

    Cherry seems to be sold on the document…..

    http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/Obama Fingerprints

    I have noticed something in the first day of Obama’s Kenyan Birth Certificate appearing in public and that is the Obama debunkers laid an egg. Their main thrust was that Kenya was not a Republic in 1964 and yet records show the debunkers blew it in Kenya was indeed a Republic according to their own official records in December 1963.

    This is immense in the best army of stooges Barack Huxxxein Obama has and they are so inexperienced, void of British expertise in colonial matters, government forms, fonts and proceedings that not one of them was informed enough to discredit the Obama Kenyan Birth Certificate when it most mattered coming out of the gate.
    This lack of ability in the Obama brownshirts is a further plank in the foundation of this which is fast becoming a bat beating these maniacs and the DENIERS into submission.

    Hey mates, as these maniacs have been terming birthers in terms of their labels, then it is time for Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck, Bill O’Reilly ect.. to be labeled DENIERS as that is exactly what they are. They are denying all evidence which is British fact that Barack Obama is a British subject from the British Nationality Act of 1948 to the now ever proving more evidence in the Kenyan Birth Certificate.

    I actually took a bit of time and ran this document through filters and posted above a rough generated copy of the seal on this document. While I do not have my Naval lab pixel refinement here in the mount, the seal is in fact literally there, unlike Obama’s missing validation seal on his bogus COLB, certificate of live birth.

    If I was an Obama dunce, there are bugaboos in this document which are far too deep which makes one conclude it is anything but real.
    For example the seal, then there is the exact listing of the book this document was originally copied from in #443 and the exact page of 5733. Those kinds of details are something a forger would never go into details over, including the multiple names of the registrars, all matching English and Kenyan names.
    There are too many details in this and the detail of the MOTHER information having that horrid stain in a spot which those of us who have dealt with aging paper material recognize immediately as a tell of older manuscripts in they all have that “cootie” growing and staining on the pulp.

    Every bit of this document looks beyond the realm of even a clever forgery expert as they would be caught in the trap of being too detailed and not random enough in the anomalies.
    The more I see this document, the more I want to handle it to examine it as it the holy grail of documents. This little gem is the removing of the biggest fraud in world history.

    I would be willing to conclude that there are Dunham fingerprints on this document as well as her lawyers, besides the registrars.
    This document has not been exposed to normal bandwidth light, but has aged in melancholy form for 45 years, before it saw the light of day recently again.

    Too much of this thing matches the protocols and if I was an Obama supporter, I would be beyond my denial phase and entering the concerned phase, because even Harry Reid is starting to throw up the floodgates in a vain attempt to stop this.
    You know people if Harry Reid is censoring information then every corridor in Washington, DC is a buzz over all of this. These are liberals now in a worse clampdown than Richard Nixon was ever accused of in stonewalling the public’s right to know while protecting their political behinds.

    Majority Leader Harry Reid in this Col. Klink brigade has made a colossal mistake in this for the complete reason, he is treading upon the ground now of traitor, usurper, sedition and insurrection. He is treading upon the ground of a criminal cover up.
    This is moving beyond now what Sen. Inhoffe of Oklahoma was conveying in damage control in “he trusted Obama” to Harry Reid part of a criminal conspiracy in treasonous actions against the United States of America.
    Harry Reid is covering up now a crime and it would do well for every last Obama supporter to start contemplating the real issue in this is NOT going away. The more time swells the current in Obama trashing the American economy, the more this flood will in angry Americans start looking for an out.
    That out is a fraud in Obama.

    I mentioned in 2008 that when Obama would fall, that he would be the first one out the door and leaving the duped holding the bag of his crimes. Barack Obama logically would be put into exile, but with coffers plundered and America in a shambles, a furious public will have offered up to it scapegoats so the revolution does not take down the cartels who started this mess.

    It is more than likely that even with Tim Geithner’s connections he will be one of the criminals arrested. Harry Reid has taken that step toward being offered up as a scapegoat. Someone is going to have to be blamed and punished with Obama in exile, so it would do well for these liberal Democrats to understand that when the tides of history turn…….one gets out of the way or one gets swept away.

    The Obama people had 36 hours to debunk this Obama Kenyan Birth Certificate with something to taint it, but failed completely. The moment this is authenticated (Note* I highly doubt that Orly Taitz did not have numbers of people looking at this thing, which World Net Daily hinted at as they spoke of other birth certificates which matched this Obama document. There are too many reputations involved in this who would be ruined to allow something to placed in court which would be later found a fraud. One just does not enter evidence which is fraudulent or one becomes disbarred and up on criminal charges.) is the moment the real Constitutional Crisis begins in America, along with numbers of Obama operatives in media and government being ruined.

    As I used a Normandy analogy last week before this broke in stating the Patriots for Truth had gotten in the hedges and were advancing, this is fast becoming a breakout action overrunning the lines of communication as the Germans are not offering any defense………and all they have is a worthless Maginot Line behind them they trust in.
    The biggest story in this is Obama supporters couldn’t even manufacture a bad lie to taint this document. They knew it was coming and they instead offered token resistance and collapsed.

    The minute now forensic experts certify this document into one court is the minute Rahm Emanuel has his game changer which he never dreamed of. This is a crisis these manipulators will beg never happened as they will be wasted by it.

    The Truth will march on and the lie of Barack Obama will be further uncovered. This is not one document, but a series of coming information which will evolve this to exposing people like Ann Coulter from dumb and dumber to the American Fool……….a title too many people are going to secure to their legacy.

    agtG 241

  35. sdee Says:

    Was reading more from Spengler on the Russian Chinese alignment against Islam.

    Here is the key quote on how serious the missteps made by Obama:

    “”Obama’s obsession with the Israeli-Palestinian issue has made him slightly worse than irrelevant. If you betray your friends (as Obama surely did by ignoring agreements with Israel on “organic growth” of settlements) and propitiate your enemies (as Obama attempted to do with Iran and Syria) you merely make yourself an object of ridicule and contempt. The rest of the world is taking measures to address real problems in the absence of American help, and in the fear of American maliciousness.

    Never in history has a great power cast away so much influence in so short a period of time.””

    more……………..

    “”…. the Chinese and Russians are closing ranks, both bilaterally and through the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, against a prospective Islamist threat.

    Bhadrakumar adds that “Moscow would have sensitized Beijing about its intention to set up a second military base in Osh, Kyrgyzstan, which is located in close proximity to China’s Xinjiang, and is a principal transit route for Central Asian Islamist fighters based in Afghanistan and Pakistan.” By the same token, Moscow has encouraged China to take a dominant role in the economy of Moldova, an element of its “near abroad” on the Black Sea. China has just given Moldova a $1 billion, 15 year-loan at 3% interest (the country’s budget is just $1.5 billion), to finance infrastructure building by Chinese firms.

    The world looks radically different than Washington thinks — or thought under the Bush administration. The encounter of Central Asian Turkic Muslims with modernity via China is tragic, and the Chinese will take whatever steps are required to ensure that the tragedy is not theirs. The human rights organizations who squeaked and gibbered over Israel’s incursion into Gaza are about to learn the meaning of the word “crackdown.” Iran is not the pillar of stability for the region that the Obamoids hallucinated, but a dying society flailing out as it falls.

    Large tracts of the world are becoming unmanageable. Looming above all these other issues as truly frightening threat is Pakistan, which cannot be stabilized by any measures Washington might undertake. Look for a quiet conversation between India and China as to how to dry this problem out.””

    http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/spengler/2009/08/02/moderate-islam-died-in-xinjiang/

    (interesting side note that the battle lines forming according to Spengler are not unlike nuclear scenario LC often lays out and some of the things Steyn discussed in “America Alone”)

  36. Tenacity Says:

    On Patriot’s Heart Network Media: Patriot’s Heart and AGJ are in DC
    Follow this historical journey on twitter. See main page twitterfeed or follow on the twitter site.

    Visit Patriot’s Heart Network Media at: http://www.patriotsheartnetwork.net

  37. sdee Says:

    didn’t know we are all a bunch of “Brooks Brother” shills for the RNC and insurance companies, did ya?

    let them just keep on believing that

    September 12, 2009 Washington DC – BE THERE! and let’s say hello to Gibby.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124939676158504833.html

  38. Troy Says:

    Go to post #1,482 and see if you can spot the fraud….Study the signatures on both….Also one of the first things I noticed with the ABC was that none of the typewritten text is distorted on the fold lines.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2307402/posts?q=1&;page=1451

  39. rosettasister Says:

    This was in moderation. Sorry, willie!

    willie b. Says:
    August 4, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    I saw on a dem blog the other day that the person claiming to have “discovered” the Bomford BC is none other than the poster some of you may know as KOYAAN. I recall when koyaan posted on these blogs and appeared to me to he used deception regarding his motivation. Anyone have any further insights into this? I wish I had bookmarked the page I recently saw but in any event, it was indeed a post from someone using the moniker koyaan. The obots on the site were bouncing off the walls with excitement and throwing accolades such as “genius” at koyaan for his “discovery”.

  40. rosettasister Says:

    Koyaan, Where’s the Love?!

    ***

    Kenyan Birth Certificate: PWNED!

    by Koyaan » Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:36 pm

    After having spent (wasted?) nearly a year in the trenches of Birthistan…

    http://politijab.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=2099

  41. Troy Says:

    Check out post #1,631

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2307402/posts?q=1&;page=1601

  42. Troy Says:

    Koyaan???….So, some people don’t pay attention to my posts….LOL

    Koyaan connection = old news

  43. rosettasister Says:

    “After my post went online, a link to it was sent to Polarik by Steve “koyaan” Eddy, and Polarik responded”

  44. rosettasister Says:

    I’m not awake yet.

    What happened?

  45. Troy Says:

    From FR post #1,479….What do you think the odds are?….The one who “found it” is the one who planted it!!!
    ******************************************************
    I also have a real problem with someone deciding to seek image similar to the Kenyan document and just browsing the 3,090,000 Birth Certificate thumbnails on Google, suddenly stumbles on the Australian document… recognizing the similarity on a 1 inch thumbnail. Right, Sure. Do I want to buy a bridge to Brooklyn? Try it. See how quickly your eyes glaze over and you zone out.

  46. Tenacity Says:

    Is there a link associated with Polarik’s response?

  47. Troy Says:

    Here is the link to post #1,479…Check it out

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2307402/posts?q=1&;page=1451

  48. Troy Says:

    Here is how Koyaan supposedly and miraculously found it.

    Bull!!!

    http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en-us&um=1&sa=1&q=birth+certificate%22&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g10&start=0

  49. Troy Says:

    Out of 3 million small and unreadable thumbnails, Koyaan recognizes it and clicks on it to enlarge and BINGO!!!…..3 MILLION!!!!

    Bullshit!!!

    We found the culprit….As an old saying goes, “The hit dog hollers”

  50. Bones Says:

    Yep.

  51. Tenacity Says:

    Do you get the feeling that Koyaan is related to a stink bug? Even stepping on it leaves the stink on your shoe. One sick little Obot…like an earwig that dies when put in a bucket of soapy water. Perhaps this will discredit/shame the demented pea brain once and for all.

  52. Tenacity Says:

    David Bomford Talks About the Forgers Who Used His Birth Certificate to Smear Obama
    http://washingtonindependent.com/53722/david-bomford-talks-about-the-forgers-who-used-his-birth-certificate-to-smear-obama

    So why should I believe bomford? Since S/Ob has appeared on the scene, every sick mind and criminal seems to have come out into the light like they are immortal.

  53. Troy Says:

    Bomford and other family have already been outted as Obots.

  54. rosettasister Says:

    Apologies in advance for duplicate posts. Not thinking too clearly today.

    ***

    http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged-kenyan-document-splinters-birther-movement

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2307574/posts?page=1#1

    I had a good talk with David Weigel today. I was quoted accurately in this article. A lot more ground was covered, of course. I told him we’re just trying to get to the facts and that we’re not afraid to look into subjects that our betters tut-tut over.

    1 posted on Monday, August 03, 2009 6:27:16 PM by kristinn

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2307574/posts?page=43#43

    To: kristinn; LucyT

    Weigel is a lying sack of s**t and an anti-Birther hack who could never get a job as a real reporter. I never accused Taitz of anything. I reported what other people said.

    Am I the only one here who sees an obvious, f**king set-up?

    43 posted on Monday, August 03, 2009 7:23:30 PM by Polarik

  55. rosettasister Says:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2308007/posts?page=1#1

    First Koyaan “finds” the Bomford BC which was not searchable via google or other search engines. Now and Aussie news outlet conveniently finds the guy.

    Someone might want to tell Mr. Bomford the BC on that site was created using a template from the (fake or not) Kenyan BC.

    1 posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 10:14:04 AM by pissant

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2308007/posts?page=8#8

    To: pissant

    Man, it’s getting HOT out there..

    8 posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 10:21:44 AM by SE Mom

  56. Troy Says:

    BTW Ten, you can chalk off Glenn Beck for any kind of support….He is a Bill O’Rielly Jr….Birhters are nuts and we need to leave Obama in so we can fight against him…WTF???

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105898

  57. NeConservative Says:

    Hmmmm, here’s an article about media top dogs threatening on-air talent to not discuss Obummer’s Birth issue:

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/13373

    Media Blackout on Obama eligibility dates back to November

    Douglas Hagmann & Judi McLeod Bio
    Email Article

    By Douglas Hagmann & Judi McLeod Tuesday, August 4, 2009
    Do you remember Watergate? Thirty-five years ago this Sunday, U.S. President Richard M. Nixon submitted his letter of resignation for his role in the scandal. There was the crime – the break-in, and then there was the cover-up by the Nixon administration. There were threats, media manipulation and disinformation. It was the cover-up more than the crime itself in the aftermath of the Watergate break-in that led to the downfall of the Nixon administration. It was a politically critical time for our country, but we survived because of the strength of the U.S. constitution.

    Now, we potentially face a new constitutional crisis stemming from the refusal of Barack Hussein Obama to produce a one-page document that would confirm his eligibility to hold the highest office in the land. Eligibility to hold office is not a “fringe” matter, but a core constitutional issue that lies at the very heart of a growing controversy.

    Although we do not have the birth certificate or proof of ineligibility, the Northeast Intelligence Network and Canada Free Press have documentation of a cover-up relating to the issue of Obama’s eligibility to hold office. The proof we possess not only exposes a well orchestrated cover-up, but also provides critical insight into why the topic of Obama’s eligibility has failed to gain traction in the corporate media.

    The Northeast Intelligence Network and Canada Free Press are in possession of extremely sensitive investigative documents, including a stunning written admission by a nationally known talk show host stating that he was threatened with his career – or worse – should he talk about the issue of Barack Hussein Obama’s birth records to a national audience. This document was obtained on December 10, 2008, and provides explicit detail of a “gag order” imposed on this host before and immediately following the national election last November.

    After receiving and authenticating the document, US based veteran private investigator Douglas J. Hagmann opened a full scale investigation into the media blackout, with specific emphasis on tracing the blackout origins to those issuing them. This investigation was conducted in conjunction with Judi McLeod, founding editor of Canada Free Press and Brian Thompson, CFP Information Technology chief following a meeting near Toronto, Ontario last December. At that meeting, it was decided to keep the existence of the document secret until additional evidence could be obtained.

    Today, after an extensive eight month investigation, the Northeast Intelligence Network and Canada Free Press are breaking their silence and revealing explosive information about a widespread cover-up that began at the earliest stages of the Obama presidential campaign. The cover-up traces back to some of the most powerful and influential people in the U.S. and continues today.

    Summary of the Evidence

    As noted above, we are in possession of a written account by a well known national talk show host who details how he was prohibited to discuss the controversy of Barack Hussein Obama’s eligibility as president of the United States. This signed document cites exact dates and times when he was forbidden to discuss any aspect of the birth certificate controversy, and includes direct references to the individuals responsible for such prohibitions. Further, his statement identifies the individuals who originated the orders and their positions, and confirms that failure to adhere to the order would likely end his career in that industry. He also confirms that other, less specific but more menacing threats were implied during conversations with those making the subject off limits.

    Although we possess the original document containing the name and contact information of the talk show host, we have decided not to publish his name or network affiliation at this time. Based on the correspondence from this individual and respecting the nature of the threats to him personally and professionally, it is our decision to allow him to enjoy anonymity until such time as he decides to reveal the facts himself at a time of his choosing.

    From multiple interviews conducted within the last eight months, we have obtained information from other sources, independent of the above, who have also been instructed to avoid any discussion of the birth certificate issue at all costs, to wit:

    The account of an administrative assistant employed in New York City by a cable network news station who provided significant, detailed information of a 2008 meeting between the top network executive and four-(4) well-known news anchors. This source confirmed that she drafted the memo to the various hosts to notify them of the date, time and location of this high-level meeting at the request of the network’s top executive.

    Present at this meeting, she verified that the network official issued “warnings” to the personalities “to avoid any on-air discussion of the birth place, eligibility, and news accounts of litigation compelling [Barack Hussein] Obama to produce a legitimate copy of his birth certificate.” She stated that the network executive had her arrange the conference immediately following a meeting “between [the network executive] and an attorney closely associated with candidate Obama who was acting on his behalf.”

    The statement of a corporate secretary for a major news network confirming the existence of a one-page inter-office memo, bearing the markings “confidential” and “not for dissemination,” addressed and distributed to news anchors and on-air talent” that specifically instructed the recipients to avoid any discussion pertaining to the Obama birth certificate controversy. The memo was written and distributed in October 2008, and specifically instructed on-air talent to “advise guests, as necessary, to refrain from citing any news story, legal proceedings, Internet ‘blogs’ or other sources that pertain to the ongoing eligibility controversy of future President Barack Obama.”

    As outlined above, our Investigation has uncovered both direct and indirect evidence of threats being made against some of the nation’s top radio and television personalities, which would explain some giving this topic mere lip service. As one source interviewed during the course of this investigation stated, “I’ve got a career and family to think about.”

    Although no one should be surprised over the manipulation of the news, the nature of this manipulation, and the extent of the threats against journalists, should shock even the most well grounded.

    Any reasonable person must question the motivation of the media moguls. The individuals who have – and continue to threaten talk show hosts, news anchors, and others are the top people. We are not talking about mid or upper level management – this is from the very top in all cases. If there is nothing to the birth certificate issue and the question of eligibility, why the secrecy?

  58. rosettasister Says:

    Obama Birthers – Kenya Birth certificate may be real.

    http://usurpador.blogcindario.com/2009/08/00237-obama-birthers-kenya-birth-certificate-may-be-real.html

    It appears that the original alleged Kenya certified copy of live birth for Barack Obama was modified and hacked and infiltrated by Obama bots.

    Orly Taitz, the California lawyer, had originally obtained and posted a birth document from an anonymous source.

    Just hours or so after it’s release, many people started to point out weird or odd features of the document in trying to disprove it’s legitimacy.

    While it should be checked, and I do not know if it is in fact genuine, it appears that some of the assumptions about it were absolutely wrong.

    Here is a picture of the ORIGINAL DOCUMENT POSTED BY TAITZ BEFORE HER WEBSITE WAS HACKED.

    According to the free republic, some obama-loving hackers were able to hack Mrs. Orly Taitz website and modify the original document.

    They also hacked her main blog, located at the following address:

    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ – Do not go there as your computer could get infected.

    In any event – people pointed out error’s in the birth document.

    Here were two of the main arguments:

    1.) E.F. Lavender was the supposed signature of the district registrar on this birth document. It turns out that E.F. Lavender is a laundry detergent.

    Answer: The original document says K.F. Lavender, NOT E.F. lavender. To view the original document in enlarged format, click here.

    2.) The birth certificate # is 47,044 – representing Obama’s age(47), the number 0 = O, as in obama, and 44 would represent the fact that he is the ‘44th’ president.

    Answer:This was planted and it is obvious by the 0 in the modified/hacked version. The real number, when examined closely and carefully on the original version – is actually 47,644.

    Again, click here to see the enlarged version.

    If you are unable to make out the details, I took the image with photoshop.

    I decreased the brightness, but enhanced the contrast features of the photograph.

    The purpose of this was to see the font better.

    Check that version out here.

    The main question that has yet to be resolved is:

    When did Kenya start referring to itself as a republic on hard paper documents?

    Many claim that it didn’t establish or declare it’s independence until 1964, although many argue that they were in the works for quite some time before and that they did not consider themselves a colony in 1964.

    This alleged certified copy of registration of birth show Obama’s Father as the one who is filing it, and list’s his location and or residence as Honolulu, Hawaii.

    Many claim Obama’s father was either 24, or 26 when he had Obama aka Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama.

    This debate is ongoing as we are not all to quite sure when Obama’s parents were born.

    Numerous reports seem to have conflicting conclusions.

    Obama’s family background seems to be sketchy, that is one thing I think we can all agree on.

    I am very suspicious that this document is a fake but I am not ruling it out quite yet.

    After seeing the original one that the free republic posted, it makes me wonder why the Obama people were so quick in trying to repudiate a claim – so nervous, that they had to hack into the California lawyer’s website.

    They were so nervous about this Kenya Birth document – that they had to change the document with subtle jokes – just so it could appear as a fraud to many news outlets.

    Does this represent people who are sure of their leader, or people who are not so sure?

    Why would they have to do this?

    This shows a big time insecurity on part of many Obama supporters regarding this issue.

    Their racial fearmongering and insults toward people who question Obama’s legitimacy is mindblowing.

    Orly Taitz will be presenting this birth document in front of numerous judges.

    It’ll be interesting to see how this continues plays out.

    Many people have done extensive research on this alleged Kenya certified copy of registered birth.

    We will continue to look into this at Obama Birthers . COM, so stay tuned for further developments.

    Again, it is very possible this document is a fake, but we will see as further research comes available.

    Everyone needs to spread the word that the original document was tampered with.

    The one on taitz site is no good.

    The free republic website and my own website have legitimate views, so bring visitors here to see them.

    ON A SIDE NOTE:

    The Obama Birthers are nothing more then people who care upholding the U.S. constitution.

    We understand that the founders made the rule of law for a reason and we wish to uphold and demand that the law be followed.

    The Obama Birther movement requests that Obama must produce documentation to show he is eligible.

    It isn’t that difficult of a concept to grasp.

    It has nothing to do with racism or conspiracy theory.

    The Obama Birthers.com website is now receiving close to 1,000 unique visitors a day.

    Many of these visitors are outraged with my website, but I will continue to press this issue on as long as Obama hides his records.

    To those who support my cause, thank you.

    To those who have been respectful opposition, thank you for being civil.

  59. rosettasister Says:

    http://obamabirthers.com/index.php/obama-birthers-kenya-birth-certificate-may-be-real/

    http://obamabirthers.com/

  60. Tenacity Says:

    Troy Says:
    August 4, 2009 at 5:46 pm

    BTW Ten, you can chalk off Glenn Beck for any kind of support…
    **************************************
    I said here a long time ago that Beck, Hannity & others are just paid comedians. Beck was showing signs of caring and he could have made a real difference. Even if he does care, he still works for the devil and the puppet strings are in place. Greed or cowardice or both are in control of the entire MSM & judiciary.

  61. Fernley Girl Says:

    Troy Says:
    August 4, 2009 at 5:46 pm

    BTW Ten, you can chalk off Glenn Beck for any kind of support…
    ******************************************************

    After reading the article at CFP there may be good reason for Beck’s silence. His youngest child is two, I think.

  62. rosettasister Says:

    Bill O’Reilly

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2307977/posts?page=9#9

    To: RobinMasters

    Funny dat, BOR. The right, aided by PUMAS, are marching this thing along, undeterred. And the left wing media and pansy ass conservatives like B*tch Flowery are in meltdown mode….and “no one cares”?

    9 posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:34:13 AM by pissant

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2307977/posts?page=27#27

    To: pissant

    Amen pissant. The more they call me nutty, loony, flaky, etc… the more determined I am to make them recognize the issue.

    And the more they bring it up to discredit us, the more people will say “Well, why DOESN’T he just release the BC and be done with it?” Even the goony journalists.

    27 posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 10:38:04 AM by autumnraine

  63. sliderblaze Says:

    oh crap

  64. rosettasister Says:

    Certifigate: Obama Kenyan Birth Registration: Two? From Australia? Taitz Speaks

    http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=6938

    Update: Dr. Orly Taitz posted the following on her blog:

    Debunking Obama’s thugs in the media

    Recently Obama’s thugs in main stream media came up with this Bomford report in order to stop my efforts in exposing and prosecuting Obama. Though typically I don’t have time to waste on each and every dumb obot, since it got to National TV and my children”s friends called my children, I’ll spend a few minutes to debunk the obots:

    1. Kenya became an independant country in 1963, not 1964. The seal of Kenya was correct.

    2. More then one person had certified copies of this document.

    3. the document was not issued at birth, but rather was a certified copy obatained in1964, when Kenya became independent

    4. The documents from that time would not show Zanzibar, but rather Kenya

    5. Bomford report was created to try to discredit my efforts

    6.lastly, I am not supposed to waste my time and money on this issue, Obama us the one who is supposed to provide evidence of legitimacy

    7. Kenyan BC provides more info than the piece of garbage Obama posted on the n et, which doesn’t have the name of the hospital, name of the doctor or signatures.

    8. Chioumi Fukino and Obama and all their Nazi Brown Shirts in the main stream media need to give it a rest and provide an original hospital BC and the corresponding big thick hospital Birthing file from the Kapiolani hospital. If they don’t have such a file, all of them need to resign immediately or they will be prosecuted for massive fraud and treason to this Nation. (in case you didn’t know, treason carries punishment of life in prison or death penalty).

    ***

    At the very least, it appears that Dr. Taitz is standing by not only the document, but, by inference, that she has an actual document in hand.

    ***

    Phil says:
    August 4, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    Perhaps I should now say that it offends me that people get offended over things about which they have no right to be offended (the 1st Amendment guarantees the right to be heard, not to be offended).

    I also happen to agree with Dr. Taitz’ sentiment over Coulter; who really cares what the chattering class has to say about anything? Opinions are like butt holes — everyone has one.

    But, then again, I think we both know that certain individuals see my site as “right-wing extremist,” “fringe,” “crazy,” and various other ad hominems.

    It’s nice to be so despised by those who think they have power in the country.

    -Phil

  65. sdee Says:

    Article in NYT on birthers. Mostly noise but there were 3 things that struck me about this article.

    1) “Republicans” have now issued talking points to the mindless pols who cannot take the time to understand this issue on their own. These seem to be the same talking points Orielly has picked up on.

    “”Before House Republicans left Washington for their August break, party strategists offered advice for how to handle the situation if it arises during town meetings with constituents. Don’t agree with the conspiracy theory, but show respect and try to broaden the conversation to specific policy disagreements with the Obama administration on health care, taxes or the deficit.””

    2) The disgusting dripping arrogance of our political elite (both parties) who have given up even pretending they represent citizens, but instead are debating which party is responsible for getting these birthers in line!!!

    “”Representative Neil Abercrombie, Democrat of Hawaii, said Republicans have done too little to try to stop the spread of misinformation.””
    “”Republicans suggest that some Democrats are trying to keep the matter alive because it makes the Republican Party look bad.””

    3) The punk reporter twists what Taitz said in order to misrepresent and confuse the core NBC requirement for POTUS.

    Quoting Taitz: “Obama is completely illegitimate as a U.S. president for two reasons — not only because he did not provide the place of his birth, but also because both parents have to be U.S. citizens,” Ms. Taitz said. “His father was never a U.S. citizen. He was in the United States on a student visa.” (That, of course, is not true. Both parents do not have to be citizens of the United States for their child to be a citizen.)””

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/05/us/politics/05zeleny.html?_r=1&hp

  66. NeConservative Says:

    Yay, a Catholic Congressman who actually took a stand for his Faith!!!

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2308079/posts

    Catholic Congressman: I’d Rather Save My Soul Than Vote for the Health Care Bill
    Catholic News Agency ^ | 8/3/09

    Posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 1:35:44 PM by marshmallow

    New Orleans, La., Aug 3, 2009 / 02:06 pm (CNA).- Rep. Anh “Joseph” Cao, (R-New Orleans), the first Vietnamese-American congressman and a Catholic, announced this past weekend that, because of the “stealth mandate” for abortion still present in the Health Care bill, he prefers to “save his soul” rather than vote in favor of it.

    Cao, the only member of the Louisiana House delegation who had not weighed in on where he stands on the health reform bill, told the Times-Picayune on Saturday that he cannot support any bill that permits public money to be spent on abortion.

    “At the end of the day if the health care reform bill does not have strong language prohibiting the use of federal funding for abortion, then the bill is really a no-go for me,” said Cao, who spent time in formation to be a Jesuit priest.

    “Being a Jesuit, I very much adhere to the notion of social justice,” Cao said. “I do fully understand the need of providing everyone with access to health care, but to me personally, I cannot be privy to a law that will allow the potential of destroying thousands of innocent lives,” he explained to the Louisiana newspaper.

    The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee announced that Cao will be one of seven Republican members of Congress targeted with radio ads that will play on radio stations with largely African-American audiences, urging him to support Obama’s health reform efforts.

    “I know that voting against the health care bill will probably be the death of my political career,” Cao said, “but I have to live with myself, and I always reflect on the phrase of the New Testament, ‘How does it profit a man’s life to gain the world but to lose his soul.’”

    Cao is the first native of Vietnam to serve in Congress and the first Republican to serve in his district since 1890. He won in a district that usually votes overwhelmingly Democratic.

    The poorest member of Louisiana’s delegation, and a devout Roman Catholic, Cao served as a board member for Mary Queen of Vietnam Catholic Church’s Community Development Corporation which assists Vietnamese-Americans with hurricane relief, and is a member of the National Advisory Council of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.

    Cao also told the Times-Picayune that he is still undecided about the merits of including a public option in any health reform redesign. He believes that it may ultimately lead to the destruction of the private insurance market and a “government takeover” of health insurance.

  67. rosettasister Says:

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105902

    That certification of live birth, because of the inherent flaws in it, would be of little use to you in securing a U.S. passport. Why? Because the State Department understands they often misrepresent reality.

    That’s why we need to see Obama’s birth certificate – his real one, the one with the doctor’s signature, the name of the hospital, etc. There is no substitute for beginning the determination as to “natural born citizenship.” Hearsay doesn’t cut it. Autobiographies don’t cut it. Unverified documents produced with no independent eyewitnesses don’t cut it.

    For the life of me, I don’t know why every single American can’t agree on that. I don’t know why every single American can’t agree to pressure Obama to release that one crucial document. I don’t know why even Obama can’t agree on that – unless he’s hiding something.

    And I strongly suspect he is.

    I don’t know what he’s hiding.

    I don’t know if it’s a foreign birth.

    I don’t know if it has anything to do with Kenya.

    I don’t know if it’s something about his parentage.

    I don’t know if it relates to establishing his constitutional eligibility.

    But, whatever it is, he has a sworn duty to come clean.

    Clearly, the questions are never going to stop unless he does.

  68. rosettasister Says:

    “because of the “stealth mandate” for abortion still present in the Health Care bill, he prefers to “save his soul” rather than vote in favor of it.”

    NeC

    I’ve heard there may even be some Lib Dems who will vote nay because of this stealth mandate.

  69. rosettasister Says:

    Media Blackout on Obama eligibility dates back to November

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/13373

    The account of an administrative assistant employed in New York City by a cable network news station who provided significant, detailed information of a 2008 meeting between the top network executive and four-(4) well-known news anchors.

    This source confirmed that she drafted the memo to the various hosts to notify them of the date, time and location of this high-level meeting at the request of the network’s top executive.

    Present at this meeting, she verified that the network official issued “warnings” to the personalities “to avoid any on-air discussion of the birth place, eligibility, and news accounts of litigation compelling [Barack Hussein] Obama to produce a legitimate copy of his birth certificate.”

    She stated that the network executive had her arrange the conference immediately following a meeting “between [the network executive] and an attorney closely associated with candidate Obama who was acting on his behalf.”

    The statement of a corporate secretary for a major news network confirming the existence of a one-page inter-office memo, bearing the markings “confidential” and “not for dissemination,” addressed and distributed to news anchors and on-air talent” that specifically instructed the recipients to avoid any discussion pertaining to the Obama birth certificate controversy.

    The memo was written and distributed in October 2008, and specifically instructed on-air talent to “advise guests, as necessary, to refrain from citing any news story, legal proceedings, Internet ‘blogs’ or other sources that pertain to the ongoing eligibility controversy of future President Barack Obama.”

  70. sdee Says:

    “”The disgusting dripping arrogance of our political elite””

    oops – I seem to have left out condescending and patronizing

    grrrrrr

    Let’s confront them all –

    I want to see that Sebelius “deer in the headlights” turned “oh sht” turned “let them eat cake” look, in the eyes of all these slime balls

  71. sdee Says:

    “”She stated that the network executive had her arrange the conference immediately following a meeting “between [the network executive] and an attorney closely associated with candidate Obama who was acting on his behalf.””

    Of course they knew this was problem from day one.

    I remember seeing an article Spring of 2008 related to the McCain proclamation listing Constitutional law team Axlerod had put together to manage Obama’s “complications”. That team included a couple of his old profs form Harvard.

    Those lawyers were probably sending dead fish to the Network execs early on.

    As Leo says – “its a cult”

  72. j.b. Says:

    http://michellemalkin.com/2009/08/04/health-care-czars-office-calls-for-internet-snitch-brigade/
    Oh for shit sake! Really?

  73. rosettasister Says:

    Maybe my speculations about some Republicans being “in on it” is not so far-fetched. BTW, both parties are quite capable of making themselves look bad.

    ***

    Media Blackout on Obama eligibility dates back to November

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2307989/posts?page=1#1

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2307989/posts?page=17#17

    To: penelopesire; rolling_stone; MeekOneGOP

    The pieces of the puzzle are beginning to fall into place….

    “The Northeast Intelligence Network and Canada Free Press are in possession of extremely sensitive investigative documents, including a stunning written admission by a nationally known talk show host stating that he was threatened with his career – or worse – should he talk about the issue of Barack Hussein Obama’s birth records to a national audience. This document was obtained on December 10, 2008, and provides explicit detail of a “gag order” imposed on this host before and immediately following the national election last November.”

    17 posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 10:08:21 AM by hoosiermama

  74. rosettasister Says:

    “I don’t really respond all that well to threats.”

    http://homelandsecurityus.com/?p=2966

  75. CJ Says:

    Wow, Rose. That’s the first time I heard (anyone say out loud) about their being a black out order regarding the msm and Obama. Why would NEIN or Canada FP not bring this out! They have never been shy about what they do and expose. Sure would like to know the truth about that story. Just think, they might have stopped this whole nightmare if they had fessed up. Any indication which talk show host? I can’t believe it was Rush but who knows. He has stepped lightly on some of the more controversial issue regarding OB.

  76. sdee Says:

    j.b. Says:
    August 4, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    http://michellemalkin.com/2009/08/04/health-care-czars-office-calls-for-internet-snitch-brigade/
    ***********************************

    “”If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov“”

    You know, it would not take much to fill their inbox with a link to every bit of government and media propaganda gargage we see every day on healthcare.

  77. sdee Says:

    rose, i’m in moderation 😦

  78. j.b. Says:

    Hmmmmmmm……………

    10 comments:
    Jet said…
    That’s good news, but what will really turn the world upside down for the Deniers is if the alleged Certified Copy of Registration from Kenya is authenticated and soon.

    On a side note, it turns out that the Bomford/Australian certificate image that the Deniers have been trumpeting about as proving that Orly’s photo is fake has disappeared from all the “debunking” articles and is the real fake.

    Check out post 1,139 about 2/3rds down the page, re the Kenyan coat of arms emblem:
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2307402/posts?q=1&;page=1132#1132
    Looks like the Aussie cert was copied from Taitz’s, and not vise-versa.

    “Koyann (Steve Ellis), who fabricated the fake “Australian” certificate, didn’t take the time to replacte the crest, instead he cropped the upper part of the template, as you can see: the words “South Australia” are cut in half. It’s clear that he used the Kenya image as template and not the other way around. The typed letters are not distorted by the paper creases as they should.”

    August 3, 2009 11:56 PM

    http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2009/08/charles-kerchner-lead-plaintiff.html

  79. rosettasister Says:

    CJ

    “Why would NEIN or Canada FP not bring this out!”

    Good question!

    Perhaps they were just protecting their source.

  80. Tenacity Says:

    Rose,
    I am detecting a bit of a change in your perspective. Have we corrupted (or de-corrupted) your thinking?

  81. Tenacity Says:

    CJ,
    I have seen a few articles in the past at CFP that did bring this out…just not to this extent.

  82. Troy Says:

    Check out post 1,139 about 2/3rds down the page, re the Kenyan coat of arms emblem:
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2307402/posts?q=1&;page=1132#1132
    Looks like the Aussie cert was copied from Taitz’s, and not vise-versa.

    “Koyann (Steve Ellis), who fabricated the fake “Australian” certificate, didn’t take the time to replacte the crest, instead he cropped the upper part of the template, as you can see: the words “South Australia” are cut in half. It’s clear that he used the Kenya image as template and not the other way around. The typed letters are not distorted by the paper creases as they should.”
    ***************************
    This was my first assumption all along…It’s so hard to unweave all the decption though….Some have reported that the ABC image was UPloaded to Bomford site on 08/03/2009…That would definitely tell us “which came first, the chicken or the egg?”

  83. Troy Says:

    Are you all aware that something is suppose to happen, via the court, with Kerchner’s case this week…Stay alert!

  84. rosettasister Says:

    Tenacity Says:
    August 4, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    Rose,

    I am detecting a bit of a change in your perspective. Have we corrupted (or de-corrupted) your thinking?

    ***

    I’m not sure, Ten.

    It may have more to do with this sinus infection I’m fighting off.

    I feel as though I’m in a fog and so I am not at the top of my game.

  85. Tenacity Says:

    The question at hand with Kerchner is standing. Charles elected to not make any emergency motion regarding the new KBC because it is not a “standing” issue. Simandle is deciding whether to hear the case or not.

    Chalice may have filed her case with Lamberth today. If not today, then tomorrow.

  86. NeConservative Says:

    Sinus infection remedies:
    1. High dose Vit C (2 to 10 grams per day), yes grams
    2. peroxide drops 2-4 times per day in ears, yes ears, let it get in there and fizz

    anyone else?

  87. rosettasister Says:

    Thanks, NeC!

  88. Tenacity Says:

    Rose,
    MMS totally wiped out my chronic sinusitis.

    Are you saying that you would have to be sick to think more like say Troy or me?:cool:

  89. rosettasister Says:

    I found an oldie but a goodie regarding koyaan:

    https://rosettasister.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/texasdarlin-defends-polarik-elliewyatt-respectfully-disagrees-decoding-obama-birth-certificate-mystery/

  90. Tenacity Says:

    😎 testing

  91. Tenacity Says:

    ah, I forgot to put a space before the first colon. 😉

  92. rosettasister Says:

    Tenacity Says:
    August 4, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    Rose,
    MMS totally wiped out my chronic sinusitis.

    ***

    I’ll try that, Ten.

  93. rosettasister Says:

    And another old koyaan post:

    https://rosettasister.wordpress.com/2008/08/31/%E2%80%9Cwhen-and-how-will-the-obama-birth-certificate-forgery-story-break-into-the-msm%E2%80%9D-polarik-%E2%80%93-techdude-%E2%80%93-kevmo/

  94. j.b. Says:

    Per Sean Hannity;
    Patrick Fitzgerald has been FIRED!

  95. j.b. Says:

    3 drops of Oil of Oregano, once a day, for a couple months cured my chronic sinus issues years ago! 🙂

  96. Troy Says:

    NeConservative Says:

    August 4, 2009 at 8:22 pm
    Sinus infection remedies:
    1. High dose Vit C (2 to 10 grams per day), yes grams
    2. peroxide drops 2-4 times per day in ears, yes ears, let it get in there and fizz

    anyone else?
    ******************
    A lit firecracker down the front of your britches…It won’t get rid of the sinus infection, but you’ll sure forget all about it for a while, 😉

  97. Troy Says:

    Ok, so I have an odd sense of humor…Nevermind!! 😦

  98. rosettasister Says:

    Thanks guys and gals, for the remedies and the humor!

  99. Troy Says:

    Isn’t just funny now that one cannot access the Bomford site or the Aussie BC?

  100. Fernley Girl Says:

    Turn on Beck now………..omg

  101. rosettasister Says:

    Obama Approval via Rasmussen

    Total Approve 50%
    Total Disapprove 48%

  102. rosettasister Says:

    Generic Congressional Ballot

    Generic Ballot: Republicans 43%, Democrats 38%

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/generic_congressional_ballot

  103. igaveup Says:

    Looks like I’m going to have to avoid drinking (not the heavy stuff, water) while viewing posts at Rose’s along with FR. I spew water on my laptop from laughing.

    from Troy:

    A lit firecracker down the front of your britches…It won’t get rid of the sinus infection, but you’ll sure forget all about it for a while

  104. j.b. Says:

    Fernley Girl Says:

    August 4, 2009 at 9:04 pm
    Turn on Beck now………..omg

    That………was fantastic!

  105. j.b. Says:

    rosettasister Says:

    August 4, 2009 at 9:25 pm
    Obama Approval via Rasmussen

    Total Approve 50%
    Total Disapprove 48%

    What, no long form today?

    btw,Rose, IIRC, the relief from the Oil of oregano was with/in 24 hours or so. Tastes nasty, but so worth it!

  106. rosettasister Says:

    Thanks, j.b.

  107. rosettasister Says:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2307402/posts?page=1968#1968

    To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

    I’ve been posting a bunch of Aussie BC’s of different vintage. To compare with Bomfords. Just wanted to get some samples of Kenyan BC’s too. Just archiving.

    But I believe the Aussie Bomford one is a fake. While the Kenyan one is unknown at this time.

    1,968 posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 2:17:08 PM by pissant

  108. Troy Says:

    To: little jeremiah
    Found out the owner of that site his birth certificate was on is Richard Bomford. Read this:
    http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=6938
    I’ve found lists of participants at 2 international conferences, one hosted by the UN, in which a Richard Bomford attended with a Richard Bamford email address, as someone working for the Aussie Governent, Regional Unit for the Environment, in the Australian Capital Territory (ACT).

    Richard Bomford is listed as the domain holder for Bomford.net where this David Jeffrey Bomford Certification of Registration was found.

    The problem is that Richard Bamford was just involved in a massive fraud case adjudicated in Australian on July 10th of this year.

    Bamford seems to go by the name Bomford.

    Also GIM International lists Richard Bomford as a GIS expert. It is my understanding that GIS information experts have software to produce maps and edit images of such quality, that forging a BC would be child’s play.

    So the Bomford could be the fake; as its provenance is in doubt.

    As far as I know, date stamps on images can also be faked. So that proves nothing. So can lead codes and other identifying facts.

    There are a number of inconsistencies in the Bomford and Kenyan BCs. On the Bomford there is no tilting of the typed line at the bottom of the page, on the Kenyan there is. Only an expert could avoid the tilting problem when typing on the final inch of a single page of paper. Yet the Bomford has raised capitals, which often occur when typing fast on a typewritter and not fully depressing the capital shift key. The Kenyan does not have this problem.

    The currency in Kenya was shillings. “d” in English currency means pence or cents. The Aussie has a seal different from the crest; the Kenyan seal is indiscernable. Both have the capital O instead of the zero for the number Zero and the capital O. Both seem to use the same typewriter font. Its a 25 years not a 26, because the loop for the 5 is larger not small and squat like the six.

    etc etc. etc..

  109. Tenacity Says:

    Ok Fernley or j.b.,
    What did Beck say?

  110. Troy Says:

    Tenacity Says:

    August 4, 2009 at 9:38 pm
    Ok Fernley or j.b.,
    What did Beck say?
    *****************
    He was just pointing out the fact that Obutthole is a communist and is trying to transform the country to communism.

  111. igaveup Says:

    Regarding the CFP, I don’t think that it was Rush. He owns his show. He was just waiting until the balance of the scales was tipping to say his God and Obama joke.

    It had to be Fox and Probably Hannity Radio Show. Certainly wasn’t Savage. He’d quit before anyone would tell him what to do. He and Teddy would go live on his boat.

  112. igaveup Says:

    Rose, I just wanted to say how much I appreciate this site. I started coming here a year ago (just about) because I read your posts on the site associated with the “man that can’t be named” or you have to put shillings in the jar.

    This is a good site with well informed posters, lots of good info and links and it’s also “eclectic”.

    Thanks.

  113. rosettasister Says:

    Another talking head telling me what my eyes should set upon. That’s between me and my Creator, Mr. Beck.

    ***

    Glenn Beck to birthers: Focus on Communists instead

    http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2009/08/04/glenn-beck-to-birthers-focus-on-communists-instead/

    Although Beck didn’t specify who the Communists were on his Tuesday radio show, he warned that if Obama was booted from the Oval Office because of a citizenry problem, mass chaos would result.

    “Let’s just say it’s true — and I don’t think it is,” Beck prefaced. “Do you know what it would do to this country? It would absolutely tear this country apart,” he said. “Absolutely tear it apart. There would be civil war.”

    Beck said the “ACORNS of the world” would say it was a “racial thing.”

    “There are other things you should concentrate on,” Beck instructed. “Who cares about the birth certificate thing? The time to do that was during the election.”

    What to focus on now? The red threat. “He’s appointing Communists,” Beck said, without offering specifics.

    Beck went on to say that no one is enjoying the birth certificate circus more than the president himself. “This is so great for him,” he said. “Because it immediately marginalizes anyone who says this kind of stuff. It makes them look like flat-earthers.”

  114. rosettasister Says:

    Andy Martin seeks Grand Jury probe of Obama “Kenyan birth certificate”

    http://www.pr-inside.com/andy-martin-seeks-grand-jury-probe-r1422471.htm

  115. rosettasister Says:

    ORLY TAITZ ON NIGHT LIGHTS TV – PART 1

  116. rosettasister Says:

    ORLY TAITZ ON NIGHT LIGHTS TV – PART 2

  117. rosettasister Says:

    PHILIP J. BERG ON ALEX JONES – AUGUST 4, 2009

  118. Tenacity Says:

    Roflmao….Andy Martin credited with starting the birther movement. I vote for __________ …..no I won’t mention the fat headed Norwegian. Let’s give credit where credit is due, I can’t think of anyone more responsible for starting the eligibility issue than H W Rockepelosi.

  119. rosettasister Says:

    MICHAEL SAVAGE INTERVIEWS ORLY TAITZ – PART I

  120. rosettasister Says:

    MICHAEL SAVAGE INTERVIEWS ORLY TAITZ – PART II

  121. rosettasister Says:

    ‘Birther’-mania reaching a crescendo

    http://oklahomawatchdog.wordpress.com/2009/08/04/birther-mania-reaching-a-crescendo/

  122. rosettasister Says:

    The Right Side of Life » Certifigate: Obama Kenyan Birth Registration: Taitz, Corsi Speak

    http://stringingandstrowing.blogspot.com/2009/08/right-side-of-life-certifigate-obama_04.html

    The Right Side of Life » Certifigate: Obama Kenyan Birth Registration: Taitz, Corsi Speak:

    “kitau says:

    “I happen to be Kenyan. I was born 1 month before Obama at Mombasa medical center.

    I am a teacher here at the MM Shaw Primary School in Kenya.

    I compared my birth certificate to the one that has been put on by Taitz and mine is exactly the same.

    I even have the same registrar and format. The type is identical.

    I am by nature a skeptical person.

    I teach science here and challenge most things that cannot be proven.

    So I went to an official registrar today and pulled up the picture on the web.

    They magnified it and determined it to be authentic.

    There is even a plaque with Registrar Lavenders name on it as he was a Brit and was in charge of the Registrar office from 1959 until January of 1964.

    The reason the date on the certificate says republic of Kenya is that we were a republic when the “copy” of the original was ordered.

    I stress the word “copy.” My copy also has republic of Kenya.”

    August 3, 9:04 PM”

  123. rosettasister Says:

    The Right Side of Life » Certifigate: Obama Kenyan Birth Registration: Taitz, Corsi Speak

    http://stringingandstrowing.blogspot.com/2009/08/right-side-of-life-certifigate-obama.html

    The Right Side of Life » Certifigate: Obama Kenyan Birth Registration: Taitz, Corsi Speak:

    “Comment Section:

    Carl says:

    “I can’t identify myself here because I’d lose my job.

    I’m a low level employee of the US State Department attached to the Overseas Service and I just finished a conference call with two lawyers in London and two journalists from Politico.com who all stated that they just left a late meeting at the London Foreign Office and they were assured that “The Kenyan birth certificate is without question, 100% authentic.”

    I’m not surprised.””

    (Some are very skeptical of these comments. I don’t know, just posting what I find.)

  124. rosettasister Says:

    Orly, Obama, Kenya Birth Certificate

    Rumours and whispers everywhere. Things are still up in the air and I am leaving town in the middle of it. Darn!

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/08/orly-obama-kenya-birth-certificate.html

    Commenters must also be vetted like the Kenyan teacher. I can post a comment like that as well. We need someone in Kenya to get us a real document from 1961 and I only have one I can think of. I’m waiting for his reply now

    (1961?)

  125. Troy Says:

    “Let’s just say it’s true — and I don’t think it is,” Beck prefaced. “Do you know what it would do to this country? It would absolutely tear this country apart,” he said. “Absolutely tear it apart. There would be civil war.”
    *********************************
    Yep, and that is exactly what its going take and what we need to totally purge DC of the filthy scum and regain our Republic.

  126. rosettasister Says:

    Audio: Jerome Corsi on Obama Kenyan Birth Certificate

    http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=2786

  127. rosettasister Says:

    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/08/04/Birther-She-has-Obama-birth-certificate/UPI-75631249420557/

    A California lawyer who has filed a lawsuit alleging President Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen says she has a copy of his Kenyan birth certificate.

    Orly Taitz of Mission Viejo, a leading “birther,” filed a motion over the weekend for quick action on her lawsuit, The Orange County Register reported.

    She acknowledged the Kenyan document might be a forgery and asked U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to request verification from the Kenyan government.

    “There are no ready means of authentication except by recovery of the original document,” she said in her filing.

    “It is also apparent … that political pressure may be brought to bear to destroy all relevant evidence, whether such evidence exists within or outside the borders of the United States of America.”

  128. rosettasister Says:

    http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=2807

    There are two explanations:

    1. You actually aren’t in the right and your real documentation contains stuff you don’t want to see come out.

    2. You think this furore discredits the Republicans or the Conservatives.

    Choice 2 isn’t real because the Republicans and the conservative media have been very careful not to adopt any of this controversy.

    It remains a grassroots event. AOL had a recent poll and 85% of respondents want to see Obama’s real virth certificate.

    So if it isn’t option 2, then option 1 remains as the most likely driver of these dis-information activities.

  129. rosettasister Says:

  130. KoolAid_Free_Lexi Says:

    I haven’t have a chance to read a thing this eve, so I don’t know if this has been posted yet. Forgive me if it has, please.

    44th President » Second 100 Days
    VOTE NOW The CNN National Report Card: Second 100 Days

    http://reportcard.cnn.com/

  131. j.b. Says:

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6739175.ece

    Well, this can’t be good.

    Things are really heatin’ up re; the BC, eh?
    I agree with you Troy, that whatever happens as a result of this HUGE ELEPHANT in the room, we’ll just have to deal with it. I mean, The Man(I know, puppet) Is Destroying Our Country, either way.
    Elections have consequences, blah, blah de blah. Well, so do ACTIONS by Criminals!
    All the shit coming down the pipe, so to speak, is a direct result of of a Sleeping America.
    Well, I believe SHE IS WAKING UP! A price will certainly be paid for all this corruption, at some point. The question is;Just who will pay it?

  132. Troy Says:

    We all will.

  133. j.b. Says:

    And to think this could all be settled by one teeny, tiny, non-communist move. If all the Doubting Thomas, name calling, Barry loving, pussy commentraitors would, just for a moment, THINK and then say;
    “JUST SHOW US THE FUCKING DOCUMENT!”

    We could move on. But nooooooooooooooo.
    Hey, Barry, I sincerely hope your dumbass birthday sucks. Bad.

  134. Fernley Girl Says:

    Ten,
    The first part of Beck’s show was Beck mocking O’s lies…O conceived after the march in Alabama (4 years post-conception). At the end of the segment he put a yellow star, purchased in China, on top of a red cake. Beck was wonderfully brutal.

    As for the Aussie doc., if Koyaan found the doc. you can bet it’s a fake and Koyaan had something to do with it. It might even be possible that he used the Aussie doc. as a template to give to Taitz. Who the hell knows?

  135. rosettasister Says:

    When I watch something like this, I am reminded of how proud I am to be an American.

    US Soldier Impaled By Live RPG and Survives

  136. song Says:

    from Joseph Farah @ twitter

    “It’s still coming — maybe tomorrow
    about 3 hours ago from web”

    “The big story I promised you last week on eligibility issue was NOT the Kenyan birth document. I didn’t even know about that last week.
    about 3 hours ago from web”

  137. Troy Says:

    Texans tell Dem Doggett to shove it.

  138. Troy Says:

    flag@whitehouse.gov – Obots e-mail to inform White House on Healthcare deviance
    by DefendUSx August 04, 2009 18:08
    Infowars
    August 4, 2009
    The Obama White House is calling for informer-citizens to denounce opponents of the president’s health care plan. A post on the White House website posted today reads:

    There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov.

    The post by Macon Phillips, the White House Director of New Media, does not indicate what the Obama White House will do with the information.

    In the waning days of the election, St. Louis and Missouri sheriffs and top prosecutors announced a plan to arrest and prosecute Obama opponents. “A local television station’s coverage of a Missouri campaign ‘truth squad’ on behalf of Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama has touched off a national Internet frenzy,” the Detroit Free Press reported on September 30, 2008. “What has prompted all the furor is that several members of the Obama’s ‘truth squad’ in Missouri are prosecutors or members of law enforcement. They include St. Louis Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce, Jefferson County Sheriff Glenn Boyer and St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Bob McCulloch. All are Democrats.”

    A television news report on the Obama “truth squads” in Missouri.

    “What Senator Obama and his helpers are doing is scandalous beyond words, the party that claims to be the party of Thomas Jefferson is abusing the justice system and offices of public trust to silence political criticism with threats of prosecution and criminal punishment,” Gov. Matt Blunt responded. “This abuse of the law for intimidation insults the most sacred principles and ideals of Jefferson. I can think of nothing more offensive to Jefferson’s thinking than using the power of the state to deprive Americans of their civil rights.”

    Although the Obama administration has yet to call for prosecuting Obamacare opponents, the fact they are compiling a list of suspects is seriously troubling and reveals the authoritarian mindset of the administration.

    It also brings to mind Nixon’s enemies list compiled by convicted criminal Charles Colson. Nixon’s list of political opponents would eventually total of over 30,000 names.

    Considering the large number of Americans opposed to Obamacare, it is possible Obama’s list of political enemies may exceed that number in short order.

  139. rosettasister Says:

    Michael Barone comes in approx. 1/3 of the way in.

    Hewitt asks Barone about the prospect of Senate Dems using reconciliation to pass a public “option” with only 50 votes.

    Barone says no, that in order to do that the CBO would have to score “No net cost.”

    And that’s not going to happen and Orszag must have known that.

    ***

    Michael Barone, David Dreier, Michael Rubin With Hugh Hewitt

    Hugh talks to Washington Examiner political analyst supreme Michael Barone about the mood of the American people to the coming health care plan, then with House Rules Committee ranking member David Dreier. Later in the hour, Hugh talks with AEI scholar Michael Rubin about reports that Iran is progressing with plans to build a nuclear bomb.

    Listen:

    [audio src="http://ht.salemweb.net/townhall/audio/mp3/b683ea05-cf17-47d5-9051-fe3ec8186673.mp3" /]

    See also:

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=ahB7_XOnC9Ms

    Democrats run a risk that major features of the legislation would drop off if they invoke the reconciliation procedure approved in the budget resolution Congress passed earlier this year.

    Under that procedure, Republicans could object to any provision they argue isn’t relevant to cutting spending.

    (Republicans will object to any public “option” provision. And I don’t see how one could argue that government-run healthcare is a cost-cutter. So I still maintain Dems will need 60 votes to get public “option” through and that just ain’t gonna happen.)

    It could only be considered if Democrats can muster 60 votes to overcome the objection.

    Schumer said pursuing budget reconciliation or other options to pass the legislation would “only be considered as a last resort.”

  140. rosettasister Says:

    http://twitter.com/josephfarah

    “It’s still coming — maybe tomorrow”

    (Has there been any speculation on this?)

  141. sdee Says:

    Troy Says:
    August 4, 2009 at 10:47 pm
    “Let’s just say it’s true — and I don’t think it is,” Beck prefaced. “Do you know what it would do to this country? It would absolutely tear this country apart,” he said. “Absolutely tear it apart. There would be civil war.”
    *********************************
    Yep, and that is exactly what its going take and what we need to totally purge DC of the filthy scum and regain our Republic.
    ***************************************
    ***************************************

    I am with you Troy – we cannot allow this to be spun as a Watergate-like scandal with some soul searching and minor course corrections- that will just allow the cockroaches to come back stronger.

    I respect Beck – he is the only one doing real investigative journalism and we do we need to expose how deep this runs.

    But what Beck does not seem to realize that the same complex, criminal, treasonous network he is going after, knew about the NBC issue years ago. They consciously crafted this deception and mounted a frontal attack on the Constitution, the people, our sovereignty and our safety. They knowingly installed a usurper as Commander in Chief. That is treason and is far more serious as the other criminal activates and appointment.

    Leo gave the Attorney General, Congress and the Supreme Court all that they needed to handle this cleanly within the framework of the law. The ran for cover instead. It is too late now to ignore it – too late for kid gloves. It will be ugly – how else can such evil and its roots be cut out?

  142. rosettasister Says:

    We had 1500 views today, BTW.

    But who’s counting?!

  143. rosettasister Says:

    http://hashtags.org/tag/gr88

  144. rosettasister Says:

    85 year old Iranian protester in Tehran protesting against the government.

  145. Fernley Girl Says:

    Ten,
    Here’s Beck’s birthday tribute to O:

  146. ryansgrammy Says:

    Rose — hopefully none of the viewers were from the WH 😀 Maybe the snitches are already at work!

  147. rosettasister Says:

    Ve have vays of luring you to RosettaSister! hehe

  148. rosettasister Says:

    Britain’s Brown will not congratulate Ahmadinejad

    http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE5735EV20090804

    A Foreign Office spokesman said earlier it was not “business as usual” with Iran but Britain wanted to address important issues with Tehran and to do this “communication channels have to be open.”

    These issues included Tehran’s nuclear program and British concerns over human rights in Iran, it said.

    Spokesmen for U.S. President Barack Obama, German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Nicolas Sarkozy said earlier their leaders would also not congratulate Ahmadinejad.

  149. rosettasister Says:

    So Obama will not “congratulate” Ahmadi Nejad

    But According to Gibbs – Ahmadi Nejad Elected Leader of Iran

  150. rosettasister Says:

  151. rosettasister Says:

    How can Obama recognize Ahmadinejad as the “chosen” leader? Chosen by the minority & by cheating, yes.

  152. Troy Says:

    ryansgrammy Says:

    August 5, 2009 at 1:24 am
    Rose — hopefully none of the viewers were from the WH Maybe the snitches are already at work!
    *************************
    If so, then you can bet that the little bastards have a FEMA camp cell with my name all over it….That’s where they will have to put my dead carcass, cuz that’s the only that I will be going.

  153. Troy Says:

    How can Obama recognize Ahmadinejad as the “chosen” leader? Chosen by the minority & by cheating, yes.
    ****************************
    Just the same wat he was chosen…I’m sure that Marmaduke Iditarod is Obunghole’s idol.

  154. rosettasister Says:

    “That’s where they will have to put my dead carcass.”

    As much as we are all looking forward to our eternal reward, Troy, it sure would be nice if you’d stick around a bit longer.

  155. rosettasister Says:

    “Marmaduke Iditarod”

    Oh, that’s a good one!

    Ahmadi Ne-Whack-Job!

  156. rosettasister Says:

    Unreal. Obama Administration Recognizes Ahmadinejad

    http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/08/unreal-obama-administration-recognizes.html

    The Obama Administration today announced that they will recognize Ahmadinejad as the “elected president” of Iran.

    Hundreds of Iranians have been killed by the regime since the stolen presidential election.

    What has happened to America?

    Commentary Magazine says the American administration is now wholly complicit in the brutal travesty that was June 12 in Iran.

    http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/greenwald/75322

  157. Troy Says:

    As much as we are all looking forward to our eternal reward, Troy, it sure would be nice if you’d stick around a bit longer.
    ********************************************
    I don’t plan on leaving anytime soon. 😀

  158. rosettasister Says:

    State-run Iranian press is filled with glee.

    Ahmadinejad is Iran’s elected leader, US official says

    http://www.presstv.com/classic/detail.aspx?id=102558&sectionid=351020101

    (I imagine many freedom fighters inside of Iran just got sick to their stomachs when they read this.)

  159. Troy Says:

    Obama is a goddamned embarrassment…He just pissed on Neda’s grave….He makes me want to puke.

  160. rosettasister Says:

    Troy, I am oddly at peace with this.

    I am glad these lovers of liberty finally see Obama’s true colors.

  161. rosettasister Says:

    Disgrace: Gibbs says Ahmadinejad is the elected leader of Iran

    http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/04/rock-bottom-gibbs-says-ahmadinejad-is-the-elected-leader-of-iran/

    Oh, and in case you’ve forgotten, Obama himself has already set a September deadline for negotiations to happen before he starts pushing for a new round of sanctions against Iran. Which means Gibbs endorsed the election result to preserve the possibility of talks for another eight whole weeks. Eight weeks.

    Update: Iranian dissident Raymond Jahan has a question: “How can Obama recognize Ahmadinejad as the ‘chosen’ leader? Chosen by the minority & by cheating, yes.”

    Update: More Jahan: “It wasn’t an election. It was a one-way road to continous dictatorship. American ppl should question their president.”

  162. rosettasister Says:

    http://twitter.com/StopAhmadi

    We’ll wait & see what happens next. Let’s hope for no secret agreements btwn IR gvmt & US. #IranElection

    about 5 hours ago

  163. Troy Says:

    Listen to this little pansy F-face cry like a little girl at the end.

  164. rosettasister Says:

    Some Lefties Get It

    A big fuck you to the Obama administration

    Seriously Obama? Elected by whom? My people are dying on the streets of Iran protesting the election results and what does Obama do? Recognize Ahmadinejad as the elected leader of Iran.

    Obama was the first political candidate I ever donated to. I voted for Obama and cried when I heard that he won and now this?

    Assholes…

  165. Troy Says:

    I have no sympathy for that dumbass….I wish they would all go out and buy themselves a ChiaObama and when he gets arrested they can all shove ChiaObama up their asses!!!

  166. sliderblaze Says:

    hey good people

  167. Troy Says:

    Hey Sliderman!

  168. sliderblaze Says:

    anyone have a clue on what farah is talking about?

  169. Troy Says:

    Koyaan’s photo at post #1,378

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2307402/posts?q=1&;page=1351

  170. Troy Says:

    Yep, but I can’t tell, 😀

  171. sliderblaze Says:

    damn, thats jacked up troy, and to think, we were friends once upon a time lol

    i can wait tho, on a scale of one to bombshell….

  172. Troy Says:

    bombshell + 10

  173. Troy Says:

    Barry goin’ bye-bye soon!!!

  174. sliderblaze Says:

    as long as its not an ed hale kinda bombshell

  175. sliderblaze Says:

    i was gonna ask, will shit “force” the issue and make people take a look at this whole clusterfUk?

  176. Troy Says:

    as long as its not an ed hale kinda bombshell

    Lmaooo 😀

  177. rosettasister Says:

    Here’s another one:

    Achmydinnerjacket

  178. Troy Says:

    If it’s what I think and hope it is, it can’t be ignored…Not even by the MSM.

  179. Troy Says:

    rosettasister Says:

    August 5, 2009 at 2:46 am
    Here’s another one:

    Achmydinnerjacket
    ****************
    Hehehe…I’m still partial to Marmaduke 😉

  180. ryansgrammy Says:

    Here’s story from WND about Stanley Ann signing up for classes in Washington 15 days after obammy was born

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=106018

  181. j.b. Says:

    TROY! You know what Farah is talkin’ bout?
    :0

  182. Troy Says:

    California To Expect Massive Crime Wave
    August 4th, 2009 Posted By Greywolfe.
    California told to prepare massive prisoner release
    From Reuters

    This, along with the illegal alien policies of California, should do a lot for the property values. Last one out of Cali, please shut off the lights and let the cat out.

    SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) – U.S. judges on Tuesday told California to prepare to release more than 40,000 of its 150,000 inmates to reduce overcrowding in state prisons, which suffer from massive healthcare problems.
    The cash-strapped state already plans to release ailing and short-term inmates for budget issues. That would clear up to 37,000 beds over two years, estimated California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation Secretary Matthew Cate.

    But he said an order from federal judges would set a “dangerous precedent” and argued at a news conference that California had cleaned up prisons and hired medical professionals to fill chronic gaps that had left prisoners without adequate physical or mental care.

  183. j.b. Says:

    How bout; Mymood Amstillaretard.
    Nah, I heard one awhile back that had retard in it but I can’t remember. doh.

  184. Troy Says:

    j.b. Says:

    August 5, 2009 at 2:56 am
    TROY! You know what Farah is talkin’ bout?
    :0
    *************************************
    umm….maybe

  185. Troy Says:

    Lets just say, it would be smaller than a bread basket.

  186. j.b. Says:

    Soooooo, Troy, how often do you check your e-mail?
    Just askin’.

  187. j.b. Says:

    Hey, slider, you still here? The reason I ask is; every time you pop in here, I ax you “what is up”? and you never, ever, ever reply. harumph.

  188. Tenacity Says:

    Troy,
    Do you know why they don’t wear miniskirts in San Francisco?

  189. Tenacity Says:

    Anybody can answer that question.

  190. Troy Says:

    Martial law coming to Alabama.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090804/ap_on_re_us/us_alabama_county_crisis_1

  191. Troy Says:

    j.b. Says:

    August 5, 2009 at 3:10 am
    Soooooo, Troy, how often do you check your e-mail?
    Just askin’.
    ********************************************
    constantly…it never quits ringing 😉

  192. j.b. Says:

    That’s funny, Troy. So, Ten, why do they never wear mini skirts in San Fran?

  193. Tenacity Says:

    I know Alabama…good luck implementing Marshall law in Alabama. Those rednecks could strip a tank in under 60 seconds. My guess would be that the guns per capita is close to the highest in the nation. The truckers and miners down there eat concrete for breakfast. I’d figure if S/Ob were to drive up on Sand Mountain, he may never be seen again.

  194. j.b. Says:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/05/world/05patrol.html?_r=1
    Did I post this already?

    Why do they “need” the National Guard? Is it ‘cuz they layed all those peeps off? I read that earlier and I still don’t get it.

  195. Tenacity Says:

    Because you can see their balls.

  196. j.b. Says:

    Tenacity Says:

    August 5, 2009 at 3:28 am
    Anybody can answer that question.

    ************************************

    Apparently not!

  197. j.b. Says:

    Tenacity Says:

    August 5, 2009 at 3:40 am
    Because you can see their balls.
    ************************

    omg-I was going to say that, but I thought it was way too obvious! lol.

  198. Troy Says:

    Tenacity Says:

    August 5, 2009 at 3:27 am
    Troy,
    Do you know why they don’t wear miniskirts in San Francisco?
    ***************************************************
    I get queezie just thinking about an answer to that.

  199. j.b. Says:

    http://drudgereport.com/
    How absolutely horrifying!

  200. rosettasister Says:

    Mill Hill teenager on hunger strike to protest Iraqi ‘repression’

    http://www.times-series.co.uk/news/4527823.Mill_Hill_teenager_on_hunger_strike_to_protest_Iraqi__repression_/

    A MILL HILL teenager almost a week into a hunger strike has vowed to continue until the US government vows to protect Iranian refugees in Iraq.

    Heidari Soudabeht, 19, of Engel Park, begins her sixth day without food today but says she will carry on “even if it means that we die”.

    She is one of ten Iranians on hunger strike outside the US embassy in Grosvenor Square, Mayfair, in an attempt to compel the US government to protect the residents of Camp Ashraf.

  201. j.b. Says:

    http://www.breitbart.tv/obama-in-03-id-like-to-see-a-single-payer-health-care-plan/
    After reading Larry’s book, I could not look at the title to this video and not LOL! 🙂

  202. rosettasister Says:

  203. rosettasister Says:

    Good night, good people!

  204. j.b. Says:

    From FR;

    To: Swordmaker; Jim Robinson
    Hold the Presses! My daughter just showed me something.

    She had me open both the Australian and Kenyan documents in Photoshop Elements. From there she had me under the Image menu “Divide Scanned Photos”. Nothing appeared on the Kenyan document, however six layers pealed away from the Australian one.

    These layers all showed distortion.
    Layer 1 – Date and Place of Birth
    Layer 2 – Father (followed by) Name, Surname, Age and B
    Layer 3 – Name, Surname and Birthplace
    Layer 4 – Issue { Living Deceased
    Layer 5 – Signature, Description Informant
    Layer 6 – The entire right section of the page, specifically the inserted text fields and bottom right quadrant

    Will post these late tomorrow afternoon. The interesting thing about Photoshop elements is that on edited photos it will pull them apart. On unedited photos there will be no layering. All of the separated layers exhibited a great deal of pixel distortion around the letters.

    I believe the Australian certificate is a fraud. I can not confirm the authenticity of the Kenyan document.

    Will be heading to bed shortly.

    1,390 posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 3:18:21 AM by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
    [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1371 | View Replies]

  205. j.b. Says:

    j.b. Says:

    August 5, 2009 at 3:49 am
    http://www.breitbart.tv/obama-in-03-id-like-to-see-a-single-payer-health-care-plan/
    After reading Larry’s book, I could not look at the title to this video and not LOL!

    BTW, you have to click on the link to see the title. C’mon, Troy, you read the book, right?

  206. Troy Says:

    After reading Larry’s book, I could not look at the title to this video and not LOL!
    ************************************************
    Uncut!!

    EEEEEEuuuuuuuuuwwwwwwwwwwwwww

  207. Troy Says:

    Lets not talk about Oboe’s pecker…PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  208. Bones Says:

    Just a bit more on that coat of arms. Found this, appears to be what is at top of ABC.

  209. j.b. Says:

    Tehehehe.
    Hey, slider! Where U at? Kinda weird how he does that.
    NTTAWWT.

  210. j.b. Says:

    Thanks, Bones, but I can’t see it. 😦

  211. Troy Says:

    Ok, thanks bones…What is that exactly and where does it come from?

    Are you suggestig a possible “cut and paste”?

  212. Troy Says:

    Ok, I used a magnifying glass and now I know what that is and it ain’t a freakin crest that would be on a SA Gov doc.

  213. Bones Says:

    South Australia Genealogy and Heraldry Society… not sure what it means, just adding more puzzle pieces to the mix… too tired to speculate this evening, at any rate. :yawn:

  214. Troy Says:

    That is a crest used by the South Austalian Geneological Society, which is a private org. and not a gov agency….If that is atop the ABC, then it’s a cut and paste and a stupid one at that…That’s a deal killer.

  215. Bones Says:

    Here’s more info, a link posted on FR: http://www.ngw.nl/int/aus/southaus.htm

  216. Bones Says:

    how do i yawn?

    and fr page itself: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2307402/posts?q=1&;page=2050#2023

    :zzzz:

  217. Fernley Girl Says:

    Posted today on YouTube, a WND film…..is this “it”, Troy?

  218. Troy Says:

    …..is this “it”, Troy?
    ****************
    Crap!!!…Probably…I was sure hoping it was something else that I had in mind…Oh well!!!!

  219. Troy Says:

    Bones, I did a side by side and you are 1000% correct…That is what is atop the ABC…Lmaooooo…What a joke!!!!

    That settles it beyond a shadow of doubt then….The ABC is a FAKE!!!!

  220. Bones Says:

    Check out those other links first Troy. That ngw.nl site describes the coat of arms as having that same shield, and then :

    The arms also used a female figure holding a conucopia and a sheaf of barley, as well as a farmer holding a pair of shears and a fleece of wool as supporters.

    So still a puzzle piece…

  221. Tenacity Says:

    What a bazaar 3 days…Its fake…wait…WND says its identical…its maybe real and the other a fake…wait…it wasn’t a Republic…Koyaan? you’ve got to be kidding me…Orly takes on MSNBC…Wait, there’s 2 versions of the same thing, hackers at Orly site again…wait…Orly heads to Europe, says her sources are good…wait…is Polarik Polarik or an imposter?….wait, he was quoting other people, not his own opinion…wait…I’m Kenyan and can verify its real, names, signature, registrar says its real…wait…how do we know you’re a Kenyan?…wait…Bombamford is an Obot…wait … wait…okay…not really…wait…Who’s on first?

  222. Fernley Girl Says:

    Ten,
    I don’t know who’s on first, but for now O is safe at home.

  223. Bones Says:

    Goodnight folks.

  224. Troy Says:

    This pretty well settles it…The ABC has the wrong crest = fake.

    http://www.ngw.nl/thumbs/aus.html

  225. igaveup Says:

    rosettasister Says:
    August 5, 2009 at 1:05 am

    We had 1500 views today, BTW.

    But who’s counting?!

    igaveup says:

    when are the purse ads going to be on your site? (chief editor) ha

  226. Tenacity Says:

    Troy,
    When I saw that the text overlayed the folds in the paper without deflecting, it was over for me on the ABC. It was obviously PS’d. Of course as soon as I heard Koyaan had anything to do with it, I knew nothing good could come from that paramecium. So my entire focus has since been on the KBC and what other games are being played.

    Have you read all of LC’s posts today?

  227. Tenacity Says:

    igaveup,
    That was a triple violation. I have been appointed as czar of the jar and that will cost you 6 bits. pa chink!

  228. igaveup Says:

    ten

    would that be: pence, shillings, or silver?

  229. igaveup Says:

    i didn’t like the chief scammers purse selection anyway.

  230. igaveup Says:

    ten

    full czar disclosure, how much is rose paying ya?

  231. rosettasister Says:

    7:18 AM Pacific

    Good morning, America! How are you?!

  232. rosettasister Says:

    The emperor has no birth certificate

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105843

    The people realized the emperor had no birth certificate.

    Try as they might, the administration mouthpieces and their hacks in the media just continued to repeat their lies like a mantra.

    “Here it is!” cried a desperate Chris Matthews. “I’m holding it in my hand. This is the birth certificate.”

    It was just the same old worthless piece of garbage Obama had been peddling since the campaign – a certification of live birth short on facts and meaningless as an actual record of his birth in Hawaii.

    “It’s on the Internet!” cried White House press secretary Robert Gibbs in exasperation. He obviously hoped people wouldn’t actually look at that document – because its appearance was unlike any birth certificate most of us had ever seen.

    The more they protested, the more people realized they were being hoodwinked.

    The barrage continues. The name-calling becomes more intense on a daily basis. The mocking and scoffing is reaching epic proportions.

    But, nevertheless, I am more confident today that we are winning – and that the truth will inevitably come out.

    This is no time to back off. This is no time to change directions. This is no time for faint hearts. This fight is going the distance.

    I am more committed than ever to seeking the truth, and I hope you will continue your support for this cause.

  233. rosettasister Says:

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/obama_approval_index_history

    1Date
    2Presidential Approval Index
    3Strongly Approve
    4Strongly Disapprove
    5Total Approve
    6Total Disapprove

    1 08/05/2009
    2 -8
    3 31%
    4 39%
    5 49%
    6 51%

    (Total Disapproval back up to 51% — that is a 21 point swing since inauguration)

  234. rosettasister Says:

    ???

    Thanks DefendUSx for a job well done – The bind that makes them nearly identical: British Common Law (albeit the Seal, Deputy Registrar, and Commonwealth Symbol)

    http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=2816

    I have extensive knowledge of computers, including graphics manipulation. I have reviewed both certificates from Australia and Kenya, and believe both are valid and not forged certificates. Neither shows signs of being forged (or even remotely so).

    So, if they are both valid, then there must be something that binds them to nearly identical record formats, right? I believe that bind is English Common Law.

  235. rosettasister Says:

    Grab your pitchforks, people!

    DNC Web Propaganda

  236. rosettasister Says:

    Attempt to debunk Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate debunked

    http://www.examiner.com/x-14129-Grand-Rapids-Ron-Paul-Examiner~y2009m8d5-Attempt-to-debunk-Obamas-Kenyan-birth-certificate-debunked

  237. rosettasister Says:

    Treasury to auction a record $75B in 3Q

    http://www.baynews9.com/content/9/2009/8/5/504940.html?title=Treasury%20to%20auction%20a%20record%20$75B%20in%203Q

  238. rosettasister Says:

    Salon’s handy-dandy guide to refuting the Birthers

    http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/08/05/birther_faq/index.html

  239. rosettasister Says:

  240. Bones Says:

    JoeNBC twitter: @jaketapper You can’t manufacture the kind of anger many Americans feel toward their government right now.

    Yep, you can organize it, but you can’t manufacture it. Sounds like some people are upset that those who are angry about Obama’s health-care plan are organizing. And here I thought community organizing was supposed to be a good thing. Only for certain causes, I guess.

  241. rosettasister Says:

    Good morning, Bones.

    Could you try going to http://www.freerepublic.com

    I’m having trouble this morning.

    thanks

  242. rosettasister Says:

    Will the REAL Obama Kenya Birth Registration please stand up!

    http://americangrandjury.org/will-the-real-obama-kenya-birth-registration-please-stand-up

  243. rosettasister Says:

    Eligibility Update: Martin Seeks KBC Grand Jury Probe; HI State Senator on COLBs; Media Blackout on Eligibility?

    http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=6959

  244. Bones Says:

    Good morning, Rose.

    I’m having difficulty getting over there too… server seems to be down.

  245. Bones Says:

    it’s up now

  246. rosettasister Says:

    tada!

  247. rosettasister Says:

    thanks, bones!

  248. rosettasister Says:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2308296/posts?page=69#69

    To: pissant; Dajjal

    The O is from the original PACER Court file. The E/K issue has already been dealt with. The E turns into a K as an accidental result of digital manipulation of the .jpg file.

    “There have been some rumors that the jpg published differed from the one Orly filed, which allegedly showed 44647 and KF Lavender. I downloaded the pacer file and it shows 44O47 (corrected) and EF Lavender.”

    Follow this link for best image.

    http://nativeborncitizen.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/03118509265.pdf

    This from:

    http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/08/04/keyes-v-obama-the-filed-birth-certificate/#comment-1960

    69 posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 10:59:02 PM by plenipotentiary

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2308296/posts?page=70#70

    To: plenipotentiary

    That may be, but there is a version that has KF lavender and no “O”.

    Plain as day.

    70 posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 11:00:56 PM by pissant

  249. Bones Says:
  250. rosettasister Says:

    Missing Page 11

    What could Page 11 be?

  251. rosettasister Says:

    Michael Savage To Birthers- Be Careful

  252. Troy Says:

    Bones,
    Maybe you can help out here….I have done exhaustive searching for the coat of arms used on the ABC and as far as I can tell, it doesn’t exist….The only pic found was the one one the cover of the book (thumbnail) “The South Australian Genealogist, Vol. 1”

    Here: http://www.saghs.org.au/images/genealogist.gif

    I haven’t been able to locate that publication anywhere other than that thumbnail….It’s like it doesn’t exist at all.

    There is the discriptive reference to that COA here: “The arms also used a female figure holding a conucopia and a sheaf of barley, as well as a farmer holding a pair of shears and a fleece of wool as supporters.”
    http://www.ngw.nl/int/aus/southaus.htm
    I am beginning to think this is false info that has been planted.

    NOWHERE else can I find support for that statement or a pic….In fact, all the other info that I’ve found absolutely refutes it.

    From 1936 to present day there have only been two COA for South Australia, the first two shown in the second link above….That info has been repeated and confirmed in every single publication that I have looked at….Never ever is there any mention of the “mystery” COA that is used on the ABC, which is what is shown on the genealogist thumbnail.

    Something seems to be very suspicious here….Maybe you are better at research than I am….Would anyone here care to try and find the mystery Coat of Arms?….I finally gave up!

  253. Troy Says:

    Rose, can you retrieve one from moderation for me?…Thanks!!!

  254. rosettasister Says:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2308435/posts?page=262#262

    To: pissant

    J, it seems. Not F.

    For source of information – last page.

    http://www.landservices.sa.gov.au/5Publications/Notice_to_Lodging_Parties/_filespre1996/No_069-New_Document_Delivery_System.PDF

    262 posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 10:51:08 PM by naturalman1975

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2308435/posts?page=265#265

    To: naturalman1975

    thanks. There seems to be a lot of Lavenders running around the former british empire. I guess its better than being named Pansy

    265 posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 10:55:44 PM by pissant

  255. rosettasister Says:

    Mr. President, what’s the rush?

    Obama could learn a thing or two about health care reform from Massachusetts. One, time is not the enemy. Two, neither are the Republicans.

    By Mitt Romney

    http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2009/07/mr-president-whats-the-rush.html

    Massachusetts also proved that you don’t need government insurance.

    Our citizens purchase private, free-market medical insurance.

    There is no “public option.”

    With more than 1,300 health insurance companies, a federal government insurance company isn’t necessary.

    It would inevitably lead to massive taxpayer subsidies, to lobbyist-inspired coverage mandates and to the liberals’ dream: a European-style single-payer system.

    To find common ground with skeptical Republicans and conservative Democrats, the president will have to jettison left-wing ideology for practicality and dump the public option.

  256. rosettasister Says:

    Larsen Sidesteps Questions on Health Care, For Now

    http://nwdigest.com/politics/08-04-2009/larsen-sidesteps-questions-on-health-care-for-now/

    Larsen has reason to be on guard: other Democratic colleagues in the NW who support the public plan have increasingly faced criticism from hostile audiences.

    “public plan” = government-run healthcare

    (The left doesn’t like it when we use their own tactics against them.)

  257. rosettasister Says:

    Obama Regresses to Cold War Mythology … and Switches Sides

    http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-regresses-to-cold-war-mythology-and-switches-sides/

    Oleg Atbashian, a writer and graphic artist from Ukraine, currently lives in New York. He is the creator of ThePeoplesCube.com, a satirical website where he writes under the name of Red Square.

    http://thepeoplescube.com/

  258. Troy Says:

    The FREEPERS really need to drop this whole E.F. Lavender vs K.F Lavender and 47,O44 vs 47,644 nonsense….There NEVER was a doc that had “K” or ” 6 “…..My God, it’s not rocket science….The doc with what appears to be a “K” was a slightly smaller / compressed image and it distorted the “E”….There was never a ” 6 “, period!!!….If you try to magnify an image that is already distorted from the start, you are only going to enlarge an already distorted image…It’s that simple….I wish I could crawl through my computer screen and slap some sense into some of those people over there.

  259. Troy Says:

    Rose????????…..Hellooooooo???????

    Can you please get my post out of moderation?…PRETTY PLEASE!!!!!!

  260. rosettasister Says:

    Wouldn’t you like to be a “Birther” too?!

    The New “B” Word — “Birther”

    http://www.lovehateoprah.com/lovehateoprah/2009/08/yeah-im-the-b-word.html

    So, if someone who thinks

    A) that Obama should be held to the same standard that every other candidate was — most notably, his own opponents

    B) that he should stop giving lip service to transparency and actually practice what he preaches and

    C) that since he is not above anyone else’s standard and touts transparency then he should therefore release all these records

    is a “Birther” — then yeah, count me in. Badge of honor.

    [And if you believe A and B, it should also be C — and then you’re a Birther, too.]

  261. rosettasister Says:

    Good morning, Troy!

    Sorry bout that

  262. Troy Says:

    NP, Thanks and goooood morning to you toooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  263. rosettasister Says:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2307402/posts?page=2086#2086

    To: pissant

    “You made it too late. Those who downloaded it before you got the k. you got the e.”

    I made it too late??? Pissant, how married are you to this so-called conspiracy that you deny the testimony of the creator of the image?

    As far as I can tell, NOBODY downloaded the image before I did. What they downloaded was the image I created.

    I captured the BC image at 2:02 AM, on Sunday Morning, August 2, 2009. just 35 minutes after the thread was posted. I posted the resultant JPEG file, the first image of the BC on Freerepublic in Post #52.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306351/posts?page=52#52

    That’s the image everyone who claims to see a “K” are using… MINE. I have the ORIGINAL PNG capture that resulted in the documents with the “K”! I was the person who converted and posted the one that leads this whole thread. I can capture that image again, process it to a 70% JPEG and get exactly the same result… a blurry “E” that can easily be mistaken, as you and others have, for a “K.”

    2,086 posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 11:35:14 PM by Swordmaker

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2307402/posts?page=2142#2142

    To: Swordmaker

    It’s not blurry. It’s a k

    2,142 posted on Wednesday, August 05, 2009 9:15:16 AM by pissant

  264. Troy Says:

    My God, some of these people over there are making complete idiots out of themselves…The post above is correct….There never was a damn “K”!!!!!….Slap, slap, slap!!!!!

  265. Troy Says:

    Bones, if you are lurking, see my post above….It’s directed to you…I’m looking for volunteers.

  266. rosettasister Says:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2307402/posts?page=2140#2140

    To: bgill

    “Would someone please give me the Cliff Notes version of this. I spent the entire day on the first 6000 post thread, was absent a day, and came back now this. Yeah, I know, fixin’ to get flamed for asking.”

    Calpernia and a few other Freepers have gotten all exercised because a JPEG image of the Kenyan BC I created has a blurry letter in “?,F. Lavemder” on the image.

    The original, as I have been trying to tell them, is ABSOLUTELY an “E” but they see (read WANT to see), a “K,” and therefor want to believe a conspiracy.

    I have demonstrated that the “K” is merely an artifact of conversion of a higher quality, large image (860K PNG)to a lower quality, small image (87K JPG). I can do it again, over and over, and have. Other Freepers have tested it and gotten the exact same results… the “E” turns into blurry “K” after conversion. But those who want a conspiracy continue to beat this dead horse… to over 2000 postings worth.

    I have described what and how it was done, provided exact examples, but still they persist in their obstinate insistence, despite all evidence to the contrary, that “someone” snuck onto Orly’s site and CHANGED them. documents.

    2,140 posted on Wednesday, August 05, 2009 9:12:03 AM by Swordmaker

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2307402/posts?page=2143#2143

    To: Swordmaker

    ::Laughing:: And you are calling me the Machiavellian plotter?

    Hello pot. My name is Kettle.

    2,143 posted on Wednesday, August 05, 2009 9:17:34 AM by Calpernia

  267. sliderblaze Says:

    good afternoon my people….
    any big news today

    btw, this town in Ky i’m in, sucks

  268. Bones Says:

    LOL Troy, just saw your post. You know I have a hard time dropping something until I’ve figured it out. Thanks for the bait… I’ll see what I can find :).

  269. Troy Says:

    Thanks Bones!!..You’ve been a big help….You’re the best!!!

    I had to take a break from it…Kept hitting brick walls.

  270. Tenacity Says:

    Troy,
    Just for the record, the PDF file that I sent you of the Kenyan CCRoB was received at 9:50pm MDT, Saturday, August 1st, 2009. As you know, it was the original file before ever being posted on the web by anybody.

  271. Troy Says:

    No big news yet Sliderman.

  272. Tenacity Says:

    SLIDER!!!!!

    Why aren’t you in Elkhart? You might be able to touch the garment of The One.

  273. Bones Says:

    http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Coat_of_Arms_of_South_Australia_-_The_1936_Coat-of-Arms/id/4934225

    Coat of Arms of South Australia – The 1936 Coat-of-Arms

    The original Coat of Arms of South Australia was granted by His Majesty King Edward VIII on the 100th anniversary of South Australia’s foundation on November 20, 1936.

    The shield featured a golden rising sun on a blue background, with the top or chief in white featuring three bundles or panicles of wheat.

    The crest featured a golden lion of England passant guardant (walking, right front paw raised, facing the viewer), in front of a blue flag with the Southern Cross in white.

    The supporters were a woman holding a “horn of plenty” and a male shearer holding scissors and wool. Two branches of golden wattle were at the bottom, along with the motto “Faith and Courage”.

  274. Troy Says:

    Tenacity Says:

    August 5, 2009 at 4:58 pm
    Troy,
    Just for the record, the PDF file that I sent you of the Kenyan CCRoB was received at 9:50pm MDT, Saturday, August 1st, 2009. As you know, it was the original file before ever being posted on the web by anybody.
    ********************
    Roger that…That’s why I stand my ground on the ridiculous “K” controversy.

  275. Troy Says:

    Good find, Bones…Thanks!!!

  276. Troy Says:

    I wonder just which one of these COA / Crests would be the one described.

    http://www.ngw.nl/thumbs/aus.html

  277. rosettasister Says:

    Iran executes 24 in one of largest mass executions in three decades

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/5978808/Iran-executes-24-in-one-of-largest-mass-executions-in-three-decades.html

  278. rosettasister Says:

    White House Spokesman Changes Tune on Ahmadinejad as “Elected Leader” of Iran

    White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs walked back remarks from a day earlier in which he concluded that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is the “elected leader” of the Islamic Republic.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/05/white-house-spokesman-changes-tune-ahmadinejad-elected-leader-iran/

  279. rosettasister Says:

    i.e., WH waited to see how world would react, then they changed their tune.

    amateurs

  280. Troy Says:

    Two faced liars will say whatever is expedient…Hmmm, which way is the wind blowing today, mr. usurper?

  281. rosettasister Says:

    A U.S. missile strike in northwestern Pakistan has killed a wife of top Pakistani Taliban leader Baitullah Mehsud, Pakistani officials said Wednesday.

    (If Mehsud had any balls, then he’d surrender before any more innocents are slaughtered.)

  282. rosettasister Says:

    http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakistans-war/31146-pakistani-taliban-chiefs-wife-killed-missile-strike.html

    From Bill Longley

    baitullah can do nothing

    he is surrounded by all sides. Governments blockade and air strikes has made him run and hide himself in caves

    soon he will be smoked out.

    from death of his wife he will now feel the greaf he brought to thousands of pakistanies.

    its makaafat e amal… you cut the crop which you sow

  283. rosettasister Says:

    http://twitter.com/iranriggedelect

    Aug 5:Many empty seats at AN’s inauguration ceremony in PM.Almost entire reformist MPs refused 2 attend #iranElection

    about 2 hours ago

  284. rosettasister Says:

    http://twitter.com/tehranbureau

    AN gets sworn in. Clashes & Protests reported in Tehran Streets today. incoming Videos at: http://ow.ly/j9Ln

  285. rosettasister Says:

    ***

    http://hashtags.org/tag/gr88

  286. rosettasister Says:

    54% Favor Middle Class Tax Cuts Over New Health Care Spending

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/taxes/august_2009/54_favor_middle_class_tax_cuts_over_new_health_care_spending

  287. rosettasister Says:

    Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

    Barack Obama urges backers to fight health ‘lies’

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/25824.html

  288. sdee Says:

    why our fight is so important – how quickly freedom slips away….

    British Government is now installing surveillance cameras in private homes to ensure proper family life

    http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/08/britain-to-put-cctv-cameras-inside-private-homes/

  289. rosettasister Says:

    White House Actions Might Be Unlawful

    Barack Obama’s Very Own Domestic Spying Program

    http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/08/05/white-house-actions-might-be-illegal/

  290. sdee Says:

    rosettasister Says:
    Barack Obama urges backers to fight health ‘lies’

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/25824.html
    ****************************

    Hey Rose, except for the part about where the lies are coming from , isn’t this EXACTLY what we are doing? 😀

    “”And some people, not surprisingly, are getting pretty nervous,” he warns. “So we’ve got to get out there, fight lies with truth and set the record straight.””

  291. Fernley Girl Says:

    Troy, there is a small image of the Australian coat of arms at the link, along with its history.

    http://www.dfat.gov.au/facts/coat_of_arms.html

  292. rosettasister Says:

    Speak Truth to Power, sdee!

  293. rosettasister Says:

    BTW, sdee, awhile back I got an email from “Barack” asking for my help on healthcare.

    next to my email addy in parentheses — “Larry Sinclair supporter”

    so I’m on some list identified this way.

    Made me smile, I think Larry would get a kick outta that!

  294. rosettasister Says:

    Talk Radio and the Health Care Debate

    http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/blog/g/3caba3af-13e7-46a9-bdda-171000527921

    The protests and angry participants at townhall meetings are just the tip of a massive and growing disgust with Washington’s incompetence and its scorn for voters’ priorities.

    The Democrats were not given majorities so that they could destroy the system of American medicine and force working people out of their insurance plans into a government plan.

    Democrats can cover their ears and eyes and pretend that what they are hearing and seeing is manufactured and represents nothing at all, but 2010 is only 15 months away.

    The failure to listen now, and the wrong votes in September and October, are going to be part of a great big farewell tour by Blue Dogs and other endangered Democrats.

    Large and growing majorities of the American people don’t want Obamacare, period.

    If Democrats keep demanding they shut up and take this socialized medicine, the political costs will be enormous.

    Here’s the handy list of 10 questions to take to your local townhall.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/Hugh-Hewitt/10-August-recess-questions-for-your-congressman-52349282.html

    Obamacare doesn’t stand up to even mild questioning, so stay cool and focused on the fact that Obamacare will force tens of millions of Americans to lose their health insurance and get dumped into a government plan, one that congressmen and senators will never ever have to put up with.

    (To be sure, Obama is pushing his public “option” now. But I wonder if in the end he’ll dump it as Romney suggests.)

    (BTW Hewitt is no fan of RomneyCare either. I want universal coverage and the elimination of pre-existing condition. But mostly I do NOT want government-run healthcare no matter what they choose to call it.)

  295. Troy Says:

    Thanks Fernley….I’m still looking for one that looks like this:

  296. Missysworld Says:

    Hi all…I gotta visit more often! I have been working this Kenya BC since it came out. I post on abovetopsecrets under missysworld. I was on a forum site when I saw a post by someone claiming Taitz’s BC was a fraud. I recorded the name of the poster and the time of the post. I then went to other forums, including abovetopsecret, where I saw posts by people claiming they looked at Taitz’s Kenya BC and it looked like a fraud. I also recorded thier post names and time it was posted. Now all these ppl are claiming they found the fraud…and what really took me by surprise was that the time stamp of thier posts, on different forums, were all the same time, give or take 1-3 minutes.. The way I see it, the “Kenyan BC is a fraud” posts, were all submitted, by different ppl, on different sites, at about the same time! In other words, more than one person planned this, and recruted ppl to have the news of it being a fraud, hit the net, all at the same time… I believe the Kenyan BC is real, and I believe a troop of people are involved to make it look like a fake.

  297. sdee Says:

    rosettasister Says:
    next to my email addy in parentheses — “Larry Sinclair supporter”
    ******************

    creepy

  298. Troy Says:

    rosettasister Says:

    August 5, 2009 at 6:14 pm
    BTW, sdee, awhile back I got an email from “Barack” asking for my help on healthcare.

    next to my email addy in parentheses — “Larry Sinclair supporter”

    so I’m on some list identified this way.

    Made me smile, I think Larry would get a kick outta that!
    ************************************************
    Wow Rose, I didn’t know that…Your FEMA camp cell will probably be right next to mine…We can slip each other secret coded messages under the bars.

  299. sdee Says:

    how tight a web they weave….
    Save the Planet: Have Fewer Kids

    betcha never thought of abortion, eugenics and end-of-life consulting as saving the planet, didya?

    After reading this you may be wondering just who we are saving the planet for? (hint: the Isalmists know)

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20090803/sc_livescience/savetheplanethavefewerkids

  300. Fernley Girl Says:

    Troy,
    Both the old and the new coat of arms for South Australia at the link. (I hadn’t paid too much attention to the crest until today.)

    http://www.ngw.nl/int/aus/southaus.htm

  301. rosettasister Says:

    “Wow Rose, I didn’t know that…Your FEMA camp cell will probably be right next to mine…We can slip each other secret coded messages under the bars.”

    I’ll look forward to that!

  302. rosettasister Says:

    North Korea: Global markets are also potential prisoners — and Clinton can’t help them

    http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/2009/08/05/north-korea-global-markets-are-also-potential-prisoners-and-clinton-cant-help-them/

    Strategist Andy Busch of BMO Capital Markets provides some interesting insights on the situation in North Korea:

    Internally, North Korea could implode and their nuclear material may be at risk.

    An incident would garner world-wide attention and a response from either China or the US.

    China’s biggest concern would be for a mass of North Koreans coming into their country as refugees.

    Japan and South Korea’s biggest concern would be for a missile to be launched towards them.

    While I was at the Pacific Economic Conference in Vladivostok, Russia, attendees were very concerned over the developments in North Korea.

    Everyone was worried about what would happen to Russian oil and natural gas exports should North Korea explode.

    North Korea is inherently unstable.

    During a power transition, it will be even worse and more difficult to predict the outcome.

    Markets should have a strong risk off reaction with equities sold, bonds bought, and US dollar bought.

    Watch for it.

    (So that would mean a stronger dollar?)

  303. Troy Says:

    Fernley Girl Says:

    August 5, 2009 at 6:32 pm
    Troy,
    Both the old and the new coat of arms for South Australia at the link. (I hadn’t paid too much attention to the crest until today.)
    ************************************
    Yes Fernley, I have those…The problem is that neither of them are what is at the top of the fake? Aussie BC….Supposedly a third one exist and is the one on the ABC and it looks like this :

    I’m trying to find a better and more “official” pic/photo of that seal/crest/coat of arms.

  304. rosettasister Says:

    Double taxes on the rich and you still wouldn’t balance the U.S. federal budget

    http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/2009/08/05/double-taxes-on-the-rich-and-you-still-wouldnt-balance-the-us-federal-budget/

    Here is some fun tax information:

    The top five percent of tax filers in terms of adjusted gross income earned $3.3 trillion and paid $676 billion in taxes in 2007.

    (That accounted for 61 percent of taxes, by the way.)

    So if we doubled their average tax rates, America would still be running a budget deficit for years to come.

    And that assumes no economic impact from the higher tax rates.

    ***

    And the Question Is?

    How will Obama balance the U.S. federal budget? VAT

  305. Troy Says:

    August 5, 2009 – by Kim Zigfeld

    So much for the “reset.” It’s business as usual for the freedom-hating Russians, and that means trying to undermine the United States by any means possible — up to and including nuclear weapons.

    No sooner had Barack Obama returned from his first visit to Moscow, at which he attempted to reset relations with Russia by holding out the hand of friendship (and practically begging for nuclear arms reductions) in a manner eerily similar to the kiss Jimmy Carter bestowed on Leonid Brezhnev, than for the first time since the collapse of the USSR two nuclear-powered attack submarines were found patrolling international waters off the American coastline.

    It’s unknown whether these subs carried missiles that could strike the U.S., but it’s clear that if they didn’t, the only reason would be that Russia’s creaking, rust-bucket sub strike force can’t currently be mobilized for that purpose. Yet another SLBM recently misfired on launch after a test (now more failures have occurred than successful launches), so the Kremlin sacked its top nuclear missile official and went back to the drawing board. In other words, following a meeting with Obama, Russia immediately returned to its disturbing pattern of harassing the United States with direct strategic provocation, something the U.S. hasn’t done to Russia since the Cold War “ended” years ago.

    So much for the naïve president’s effort to make friends with the KGB thugs who prowl the Kremlin.

    More here: http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/russia-resets-u-s-relations-back-to-cold-war-era/

  306. rosettasister Says:

    The long recession: 15 reasons why the U.S. economy faces a weak recovery

    http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/2009/08/05/the-long-recession-15-reasons-why-us-economy-faces-a-weak-recovery/

    1. The foundation for any durable recovery in a modern industrial economy rests with the organic dynamism of the private sector. Ask anyone in Japan as to how repeated rounds of fiscal stimulus played out over the past two decades.

    2. We are still in a post-bubble credit collapse world and there are still too many uncertainties associated with the outlook for the economy, corporate earnings, financial stability and fiscal rectitude (or recklessness is more like it).

    3. Wages are deflating at a record rate and credit in the banking system is still contracting as banks continue to shrink their balance sheets.

    4. Three-quarters of the corporate universe have no revenue growth to speak of.

    5. Only one-third of the ISM industries posted growth in July and barely more than one in ten were adding to payrolls.

    ISM Index definition

    A monthly composite index, released by the Institute for Supply Management, that is based on surveys of 300 purchasing managers throughout the United States in 20 industries in the manufacturing area.

  307. rosettasister Says:

    Zigfeld sounds like a good source, Troy!

    Kim Zigfeld is a New York City-based writer who blogs at Publius Pundit and publishes her own Russia specialty blog, La Russophobe. She also writes for Russia! magazine and is researching a book on the rise of dictatorship in Putin’s Russia.

  308. Missysworld Says:

    Here is the link at abovetopsecrets where I posted what I found concerning multiple ppl claiming to have solved the “Kenya BC is a fraud”, and how all the different posts, on different sites, had the SAME timestamp..KOYAAN post was one of them.
    Scroll down this link to “missysworld”
    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread487621/pg77
    If any of you could post your findings about KOYAAN, please post it on abovetopsecrets, under the Political Conspiricies topic/Obama’s Kenyan Birth Certificate (LIKELY FORGERY)(Its up to 90plus pages now..)
    I have not had time to read about all you all have said concerning Koyaan. I came across his post and timestamp a few days ago by accident, and just saw today that you all have been discussing it..Thanks!

  309. rosettasister Says:

    Now I’m thoroughly depressed!

    http://twitter.com/Pethokoukis

    The pain, the pain! 15 reasons why the economy is going to suck, like, forever … well, for a good long while!

  310. rosettasister Says:

    http://www.arktimes.com/blogs/arkansasblog/2009/08/and_speaking_of_health_care.aspx

    U.S. Sen. Blanche Lincoln

    But Lincoln would not go so far as to say she’d support passing health care under a process called “reconciliation,” which gives the Democrats, as controlling party in the Senate, a procedural right to shut off debate and forestall any GOP filibuster attempts.

    “I really have big concerns about doing it through reconciliation,” she said.

    Lincoln said to pass health care reform under reconciliation rules would limit some of the available health care policy options, including a long-sought rule prohibition against discriminating among patients due to pre-existing conditions.

    “You wouldn’t get half a loaf; you would probably only get a third of a loaf,” she said. “It would basically be a Medicare reform bill is all it would be.”

    (I still maintain public “option” will need 60 votes in Senate, which will not happen.)

  311. rosettasister Says:

    Public “option” violate the Byrd rule? What cards do Dems have up their sleeve?

    http://keithhennessey.com/2009/08/05/reconciliation-part-2/

    Here are provisions that I think violate the Byrd rule:

    • Exchanges / Gateways, and all the requirements imposed through them – They’re separated from the subsidies. Someone might argue that the exchanges are a “necessary term and condition” of making the subsidies work. That’s a huge stretch.

    • So-called health insurance consumer protections – Insurance mandates such as those requiring guaranteed issue and guaranteed renewability, no lifetime or annual limits, extension of coverage to 25-year old dependents, and modified community rating – As I wrote yesterday, I think these clearly violate the Byrd rule. A couple of friends pointed out that these provisions would make health insurance more expensive. That depresses wages, which reduces income tax revenues, which is a budgetary effect. I think this fits in the merely incidental bucket – these provisions would fundamentally restructure the insurance industry with a minor budget effect.

    *** • The public option – As currently drafted, it’s designed to be independent of federal spending. If so, it’s extraneous. I imagine they could redraft it to link it more closely to the spending so it doesn’t violate the Byrd rule. ***

    In addition, I imagine that each of the broader spending and tax provisions that I labeled as OK, including the Medicaid expansions and the health insurance subsidies, would contain components that are not strictly necessary for the spending. I imagine that some of those provisions might be vulnerable to the Byrd rule as well.

    Now you can see Senator Reid’s challenge. If he goes with a 51-vote strategy through reconciliation, he may lose large parts of his bill. In particular, he’ll have to figure out how to protect the public option from the Byrd rule, because a Left-side strategy only works if the public option stays in the bill.

    I will conclude by repeating a point from yesterday. It is too soon to predict how this fall will play out. I hope these process details help you understand some of the rules of the game.

  312. rosettasister Says:

  313. rosettasister Says:

  314. Troy Says:

    White House is trying to squelch the mutiny that is taking place, over Obama’s ineligibility, within the military.

    http://patdollard.com/2009/08/marine-corps-banned-from-blogosphere/

  315. rosettasister Says:

    The League of the Righteous Renounces Violnce?

    http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/2009/08/league-of-righteous-renounces-violnce.html

    This actually happened yesterday, but it’s an important piece of news:

    Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki met members of the radical Shiite group believed to have kidnapped five Britons in Iraq two years ago after it said it had renounced violence, a government spokesman said on Monday.

    The meeting came just days after British Prime Minister Gordon Brown said two of the five were “very likely” to be dead, bringing to four the number of hostages killed by the League of the Righteous.

    “The government welcomes the statement by the League of the Righteous that it renounces violence and supports the political process and efforts to achieve national unity,” Ali al-Dabbagh said on state Al-Iraqiya television on Sunday.

    How did this happen?

    One, or a combination of the following:

    – The League of the Righteous may have been instructed by Tehran to moderate their behavior and join the political process. This move could improve the standings of the fractured Sadrist movement and Shiite Islamic parties in general among their constituency. The goal may be to rebuild the UIA and balance Maliki’s emerging nationalist coalition.

    – The release of detained League’s leaders and affiliated Iranian agents has paid off.

    – The League is faking this to have more of their detained members released and buy some time to regroup and reorganize.

    – Maliki is trying to get the Sadrists on his side to prepare for general elections.

    – Maliki wants to show that he is the arbiter of national reconciliation, not the Americans who were talking to Sunni insurgents without his government’s knowledge.

    If this is the case, he may have paid a high price to bring the League to the table on such a short notice.

  316. Troy Says:

    Cornyn to Obama: Disband the Internet Snitch Brigade
    By Michelle Malkin • August 5, 2009 02:14 PM

    Texas GOP Sen. John Cornyn sent a letter today to President Obama asking him to disband the Internet Snitch Brigade run out of the health care czar’s office immediately.

    The Hill has the full text of the letter (read here):

    “By requesting citizens send ‘fishy’ emails to the White House, it is inevitable that the names, email, addresses, IP addresses and private speech of U.S. citizens will be reported to the White House,” Cornyn wrote in a letter to Obama. “You should not be surprised that these actions taken by your White House staff raise the specter of a data collection program.”

    Cornyn asked Obama to cease the program immediately, or at the very least explain what the White House would do with the information it collects.
    The Anchoress reminds us of when the Left went nuts over Bush/Cheney post-9/11 programs to combat terrorism:

    Anyone recall how, after 9/11 -after we’d been attacked in NYC and DC- the Bush Administration said: “If you see anything suspicious, you ought to report it,” causing conniptions on the left? How dare the Bushies ask people to snitch for security reasons! Now, for mere policy, that has become an acceptable, “if you see/hear anything disobedient, be the tattletale.”
    Lots of bloggers are taking part in Operation Go Flag Yourself — flooding the Internet Snitch Brigade with e-mails turning themselves in for health care hate crimes or turning Team Obama in for “fishy” misinformation. I did my part yesterday. How about you?

    http://michellemalkin.com/2009/08/05/cornyn-to-obama-disband-the-internet-snitch-brigade/

  317. rosettasister Says:

    It’s about time

    Blast walls will be removed from all “major and secondary” streets in Baghdad in 40 days!

    http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/2009/08/its-about-time.html

  318. rosettasister Says:

    Here it comes! This is what Senator McCain was worried about.

    ***

    Feingold Set to Oppose Further Troop Boost for Afghanistan

    http://washingtonindependent.com/53908/feingold-set-to-oppose-further-troop-boost-for-afghanistan

    If Gen. Stanley McChrystal proposes, as expected, an increase in U.S. troops for the Afghanistan war, Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wis.) is “likely to oppose it,” the senator told TWI.

    http://washingtonindependent.com/53036/mcchrystal-to-ask-for-more-troops

  319. Fernley Girl Says:

    Troy,

    This from dfat.gov.au

    South Australia
    The state’s coat of arms was granted by Queen Elizabeth II on 19 April 1984. The shield contains the state badge, comprising the white-backed magpie (Gymnorhina tibicen leuconota), standing on a staff of gum tree, against a gold orb representing the sun. The crest is the state’s floral emblem, Sturt’s desert pea (swainsona formosus), above a collar of the state’s colours: red, blue and gold. The present coat of arms replaced the arms granted by King Edward VIII in 1936.

    According to the Au govt. site, only two versions. The heraldry may represent a township or other civic district within the state of South Australia. The coat of arms looks most similar to the coat of arms of Victoria, but doesn’t appear to be a match. The crest could have been taken from anywhere, assuming the document was forged.

    Also, the teeny, tiny image you gave me the link to….the top page with the round crest, or the lower page that has the crest with the banner across the top?

  320. rosettasister Says:

    Justice D A N C E MSTRKRFT Remix

  321. Troy Says:

    Also, the teeny, tiny image you gave me the link to….the top page with the round crest, or the lower page that has the crest with the banner across the top?
    *****************
    The top one that is in color.

  322. Troy Says:

    The heraldry may represent a township or other civic district within the state of South Australia. The coat of arms looks most similar to the coat of arms of Victoria, but doesn’t appear to be a match.
    ******************************************
    I don’t see it here:
    http://www.ngw.nl/thumbs/aus.html

  323. rosettasister Says:

    Missysworld Says:
    August 5, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    Missysworld Says:
    August 5, 2009 at 6:58 pm

    Sorry you were stuck in moderation, Missy!

  324. Troy Says:

    I can’t find a good example of it anywhere, but according to this it does indeed exist.
    *****************************************************
    Coat of Arms of South Australia – The 1936 Coat-of-Arms
    The original Coat of Arms of South Australia was granted by His Majesty King Edward VIII on the 100th anniversary of South Australia’s foundation on November 20, 1936.

    The shield featured a golden rising sun on a blue background, with the top or chief in white featuring three bundles or panicles of wheat.

    The crest featured a golden lion of England passant guardant (walking, right front paw raised, facing the viewer), in front of a blue flag with the Southern Cross in white.

    The supporters were a woman holding a “horn of plenty” and a male shearer holding scissors and wool. Two branches of golden wattle were at the bottom, along with the motto “Faith and Courage”.
    *********************************************************
    That is a perfect description of the one on the ABC, which is the same one at this link: http / /www saghs.org.au/images/genealogist.gif

    That link does not have a very good example of the crest, but I can’t find another example anywhere, even though it is described perfectly above and evidently didexist and was used…I’m stumped!

  325. Troy Says:

    Above description quote is from here:

    http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Coat_of_Arms_of_South_Australia_-_The_1936_Coat-of-Arms/id/4934225

  326. Katie Says:

    In the midst of the insanity and depression, here’s a heartwarming clip for anyone who is not an obama fan, or loves dogs. Enjoy the laugh!!

  327. j.b. Says:

    OMG, Katie, how/where did you find that! That’s. Hilarious.

    Hey, how’s your Dad?

  328. Troy Says:

    Missysworld Says:

    August 5, 2009 at 6:58 pm
    Here is the link at abovetopsecrets where I posted what I found concerning multiple ppl claiming to have solved the “Kenya BC is a fraud”, and how all the different posts, on different sites, had the SAME timestamp..KOYAAN post was one of them.
    Scroll down this link to “missysworld”
    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread487621/pg77
    If any of you could post your findings about KOYAAN, please post it on abovetopsecrets, under the Political Conspiricies topic/Obama’s Kenyan Birth Certificate (LIKELY FORGERY)(Its up to 90plus pages now..)
    I have not had time to read about all you all have said concerning Koyaan. I came across his post and timestamp a few days ago by accident, and just saw today that you all have been discussing it..Thanks!
    ********************************
    Well, I went over there to give them the “goods” on who and what Steve “Koyaan” Ellis is and I can’t figure out how to post comments there…Grrrrr…I couldn’t find a “sign-in” or anything.

  329. j.b. Says:

    OMG, Katie, how/where did you find that! That’s. Hilarious. 🙂

    Hey, how’s your Dad?

  330. j.b. Says:

    Speaking of hilarious! They, the DNC, WH, etc., Are Melting-ah!
    (have you seen these “mobs”? They are 80% senior citizens!)

    From: Garrett, Major
    To:
    Sent: Wed Aug 05 10:38:30 2009
    Subject: 5 facts about the anti-reform mobs — from the DNC

    DNC Executive Director lays down what DNC and WH consider to be the facts on health care “mobs.”

    There’s been a lot of media coverage about organized mobs intimidating lawmakers, disrupting town halls, and silencing real discussion about the need for real health insurance reform.

    The truth is, it’s a sham. These “grassroots protests” are being organized and largely paid for by Washington special interests and insurance companies who are desperate to block reform. They’re trying to use lies and fear to break the President and his agenda for change.

    Health insurance reform is about our lives, our jobs, and our families — we can’t let distortions and intimidation get in the way. We need to expose these outrageous tactics, and we’re counting on you to help. Can you read these “5 facts about the anti-reform mobs,” then pass them along to your friends and family?
    5 facts about the anti-reform mobs

    1. These disruptions are being funded and organized by out-of-district special-interest groups and insurance companies who fear that health insurance reform could help Americans, but hurt their bottom line. A group run by the same folks who made the “Swiftboat” ads against John Kerry is compiling a list of congressional events in August to disrupt. An insurance company coalition has stationed employees in 30 states to track where local lawmakers hold town-hall meetings.

    2. People are scared because they are being fed frightening lies. These crowds are being riled up by anti-reform lies being spread by industry front groups that invent smears to tarnish the President’s plan and scare voters. But as the President has repeatedly said, health insurance reform will create more health care choices for the American people, not reduce them. If you like your insurance or your doctor, you can keep them, and there is no “government takeover” in any part of any plan supported by the President or Congress.

    3. Their actions are getting more extreme. Texas protesters brought signs displaying a tombstone for Rep. Lloyd Doggett and using the “SS” symbol to compare President Obama’s policies to Nazism. Maryland Rep. Frank Kratovil was hanged in effigy outside his district office. Rep. Tim Bishop of New York had to be escorted to his car by police after an angry few disrupted his town hall meeting — and more examples like this come in every day. And they have gone beyond just trying to derail the President’s health insurance reform plans, they are trying to “break” the President himself and ruin his Presidency.

    4. Their goal is to disrupt and shut down legitimate conversation. Protesters have routinely shouted down representatives trying to engage in constructive dialogue with voters, and done everything they can to intimidate and silence regular people who just want more information. One attack group has even published a manual instructing protesters to “stand up and shout” and try to “rattle” lawmakers to prevent them from talking peacefully with their constituents.

    5. Republican leadership is irresponsibly cheering on the thuggish crowds. Republican House Minority Leader John Boehner issued a statement applauding and promoting a video of the disruptions and looking forward to “a long, hot August for Democrats in Congress.”

    It’s time to expose this charade, before it gets more dangerous. Please send these facts to everyone you know. You can also post them on your website, blog, or Facebook page.

    Now, more than ever, we need to stand strong together and defend the truth.

    Thanks,

    Jen

    Jen O’Malley Dillon
    Executive Director
    Democratic National Committee

  331. Katie Says:

    j.b. – my sister just emailed it to me. Cracked me up and I know there’s a lot of dog lovers here at Rose’s place.

    My father was just released from the hospital today – that’s the great news. He’s just been moved to a nursing home for intensive rehab and the place is a dump.

    His personality is different, he’s VERY confused, forgetful, and had severe hallucinations in the hospital. They tell us it’s a common side effect from such invasive surgery and living in ICU and it usually goes away once they get in familiar surroundings. Unfortunately, he isn’t able to be at home yet, so we’re on an emotional roller coaster.

    This morning I was up – this afternoon we’re all depressed again.

    Better go watch the No Treats for obama again. Need all the laughs I can get – and thanks for asking 🙂

  332. Bones Says:

    Troy,

    http://cgi.ebay.com/AUSTRALIA-304-SG296-S-A-Coat-of-Arms-pf78419_W0QQitemZ120442420010QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_2?hash=item1c0aed7b2a&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

  333. j.b. Says:

    Geez, Katie, that sounds terrible! My step dad was in “one of those” places last year. Please keep this in mind; Stay on top of everything they are doing. The louder and more (respectfully)demanding YOU are, the better care your dad wil recieve, thus earlier release. My step dad’s recovery was set back, due to a bed sore ON his FOOT! He could then not do any of the exercises and his stay was prolonged. Just be heard and hold the staff ACCOUNTABLE! Good Luck and I hope for a quick recovery for your Dad.

    Oh and I wanted to share with you that when my g-ma was in a home-she would get bladdder infections and thus become all disoriented and agitated. After the first one, the signs were obvious-To The Family!

  334. Fernley Girl Says:

    j.b. @ 8:38

    NOT hilarious, infuriating. I’d sure as hell like to get about a million letters and postcards into her office calling her out on her lies. I am exploding.

    PROVE IT BITCH

  335. Katie Says:

    Thanks for the advice j.b. – we’re all in new territory here, so advice from others who have walked in the same shoes is very helpful.

  336. Fernley Girl Says:

    Katie,
    My mom ended up in a nursing home for awhile. She was never a good eater and she didn’t like the food. She declined quickly. I started giving her a liquid diet meal replacement because it said it contained all sorts of nutrients. She was released 8 days after I started giving her the meal replacement. Now there’s a product called Ensure. It might be worth trying to supplement your dad’s diet with some extra nutrition.

  337. Troy Says:

    Holy smokes, Bones!!!…Wow, you did it!!!!….I’m impressed…How did you go about finding that gem?…Ebay???…Wow, what led you there?….I also looked through a lot of stamps, but Ebay never came to mind.

  338. rosettasister Says:

    New Thread:

    https://rosettasister.wordpress.com/2009/08/05/let-me-show-you-how-i-work/

  339. sdee Says:

    Katie Says:

    My father was just released from the hospital today – that’s the great news. He’s just been moved to a nursing home for intensive rehab and the place is a dump.

    His personality is different, he’s VERY confused, forgetful, and had severe hallucinations in the hospital. They tell us it’s a common side effect from such invasive surgery and living in ICU and it usually goes away once they get in familiar surroundings.
    ***************************

    Katie, my father went into surgery mentally 100% and came out nearly psychotic. It went on for 3 days and my mother was told he needed to go into mental care facility. They would not believe my mother that he was fine going into the surgery and were going to commit him over her objections. We flew down and got the hospital chief of psychiatry to see him. He immediately said my father had”anesthesia induced psychosis”. It happens when the liver cannot get rid of the anesthesia. They gave him an injection of Haldol and it cleared right up.

  340. Missy Says:

    TROY…
    Go to this link at abovetopsecrets..There is a “Join” button, top rightside of that page..
    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/index.php?logout=ats
    Thankyou! 🙂

  341. sdee Says:

    Katie Says:
    He’s just been moved to a nursing home for intensive rehab and the place is a dump.
    *****************
    If you cannot find a place you like better – just get him out as soon as you can. Keep asking how you can get him home.

    Stay on them. Question everything and if there is anything you do not like or if your Dad thinks they are not treating him right, go to the nursing supervisor at once and ask. Politely ask what meds he is on and how he has been taking/tolerating his them- especially if they are giving him pain killers that might be “diverted”. Night shifts tend to be most problematic. Once the word gets out that you are watching, they will think twice about how they treat him. Try and find the best nurse caring for him and make him/her your friend. Bring each shift bagels, cookies, fruit or something when you visit. If he is being visited by a doctor, find out when the doctor visits and try to be there then. If he has a personal physician that you trust, ask him/her to visit your father and/or review the care plan.

  342. Troy Says:

    Missy Says:

    August 5, 2009 at 10:34 pm
    TROY…
    Go to this link at abovetopsecrets..There is a “Join” button, top rightside of that page..
    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/index.php?logout=ats
    Thankyou!
    **************************************************
    Ok Missy, give me just a little while to compile the data….You guys and gals may already know more than I do about the aformentioned person, but I will tell what I know.

  343. Tenacity Says:

    D.C. report happening now at:
    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/PatriotsHeartNetwork/2009/08/05/The-Citizens-Grand-Jury

  344. Tenacity Says:

    Chalice just came on. They served 435 people/committees today.

  345. Tenacity Says:

    Missy,
    Just want to give you a warm welcome!!!!

  346. KoolAid_Free_Lexi Says:

    Katie Says:
    August 5, 2009 at 8:39 pm
    *****

    Katie, my dad suffered some of the same effects 12 yrs ago, when he had open heart by-pass surgery. If I remember correctly, he had 6 blockages.

    Then, he was about 56 yrs old. It was the only time in my whole life I EVER remember him saying he wanted something for pain. And he didn’t ask. I could tell he was “uncomfortable”, so I asked him if he wanted something for pain and he nodded, ahuh.

    The medications he was on added to his confusion too. But he has recovered completely and still he works full time.

    I realize my dad then may have been younger than your dad now, but I’m hoping you’ll be encouraged, Katie. We’ve not forgotten him. Nor the wonders our Almighty Surgeon can do.

  347. Tenacity Says:

    Excellent article posted at Orly’s blog from Free Republic. http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/

  348. Tenacity Says:

    That FR article supports the Kenyan CCRoB by showing how it fits into the divorce chronology. Also mentions that the mystery missing page 11 from the divorce docs was likely the BC.

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