Santa Rosa De Lima, original name Isabel De Flores

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Virgin, patroness of America, born at Lima, Peru 20 April, 1586; died there 30 August, 1617.

Many miracles followed her death. She was beatified by Clement IX, in 1667, and canonized in 1671 by Clement X, the first American to be so honoured. Her feast is celebrated 30 August. She is represented wearing a crown of roses.

http://www.4shared.com/file/122287190/264ba10a/11_Kacharpari__Peru_.html

http://www.4shared.com/file/122287282/d3184f3e/12_Crepusculo_Costero__Peru_.html

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http://www.4shared.com/file/122287404/f62f1cb1/14_Kurikinga.html

http://www.4shared.com/file/122287431/ad68bbfd/15_Casi_me_quisiste__Argentina_.html

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GOLD, to the Incas, was “the sweat of the sun,” and SILVER ” the tears of the moon.”

http://www.4shared.com/file/122287515/99f17751/16_Himno_al_Sol__Peru_.html

http://www.4shared.com/file/122287589/41858033/17_Sanjuanero_Colombia.html

http://www.4shared.com/file/122287637/478fcaa6/18_Sonkoy.html

http://www.4shared.com/file/122287690/2304b78f/19_Selvas_y_Valles__Bolivia_.html

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339 Responses to “Santa Rosa De Lima, original name Isabel De Flores”

  1. Troy Says:

    Terry, I’m going to email Beck and give him my cell phone # and request that he call me for a little chat….I intend to find out if the guy is serious or if he is just exploiting our sentiments for the purpose of getting ratings for his show….I know how and what to say to him to entice him to pick up a phone and call me, if he is genuinely serious about saving our Republic….If he proves himself to me and I’m satisfied that he is prepared to fight with us, I will direct him to you for contact…In turn you can put him in contact with people like Doc Vieira and others….He wants constitutional watchdogs???….He has an “ace” research team????….We’ll just see about that….The patriots that you are now in close contact with would be able put him and his so called “research team” through some schooling….I will be contacting him tonight and I will let him know that I will need to hear from him by Monday night.

  2. Troy Says:

    sdee Says:

    August 2, 2009 at 1:23 am
    yeah – i am watching Beck was not sure if it was a rerun. or not.

    He is starting to connect ACORN, SEIU and some other organizations in a coordinated Cloward-Piven play to overwhelm all government systems. Even mentioned it having a citizen army waitng in the wings.

    The other day he drew Obama at the top of an Apollo coordinated play using energy taxation and other green initiatives.
    *********************************************************
    Try Googling: “Beck Apollo ACORN video”

  3. sdee Says:

    Troy Says:

    Try Googling: “Beck Apollo ACORN video”
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    Found it – thx!

  4. Troy Says:

    YW!

  5. Troy Says:

    Hey jb,
    On my earlier post regarding Beck, I hope it didn’t seem like I was snapping at you, because I wasn’t…I’m just frustrated with Beck, because I have pleaded with him numerous times to report on the legitimate lawsuits regarding Obama’s ineligibility and he has not lifted a finger.

  6. sdee Says:

    Listening to Glenn Beck he seems to share a gut level understanding of the sheer gravity of what is coming.

    He also recognized that we are being attacked on many fronts in a coordinated fashion and was advising we focus vigilance on the one thing we know best.

    Although I believe that BHO’s usurpation of the Constitutional requirements for office is the “One Thing”, it could well be that Beck has locked and loaded on the regime’s criminal and treasonous organizational structure.

    I support him if that is his focus – a major scandal can start the dominoes falling as well as anything (it is a lot easier for folks to understand than Wong Kim Ark)

  7. Troy Says:

    I agree sdee, He needs to be pursued on ALL fronts…After all, it was tax evasion that took down Capone and not his muderous acts….It was the cover-up that took down Nixon and not the break-in.

  8. sdee Says:

    don’t forget the blue dress Troy 😀

  9. Troy Says:

    Hehehe 😀

  10. Troy Says:

    sdee Says:

    August 2, 2009 at 2:21 am
    don’t forget the blue dress Troy

  11. j.b. Says:

    Troy Says:

    August 2, 2009 at 1:52 am
    Hey jb,
    On my earlier post regarding Beck, I hope it didn’t seem like I was snapping at you, because I wasn’t…I’m just frustrated with Beck, because I have pleaded with him numerous times to report on the legitimate lawsuits regarding Obama’s ineligibility and he has not lifted a finger.

    Nope. Not at all. I was just finishing my dinner, reading and formulating a response (but not a snippy one:)) when I read this one.

    I really want to stress to EVERYONE who continues to ask themselves or others, “What can I do?”, to read the post from Glenn Beck(which is a transcript form his radio monologue last Thursday, I think. I heard it real time and found myself hanging on each word.) He is ON TO SOMETHING and I am not being dramatic when I say he has laid it all on the line for his Country. HE and/or HIS FAMILY IS THREATENED EVERY DAY!
    Try to imagine what that must feel like. He has several children. From a two year old to one in college, who happens to have CP. He does NOT NEED TO DO ANY OF THIS! I beleive he is making a difference in spite of what he is up against.
    Did you all know he was on Fox and Friends last week and called Barry a “racist”? I don’t think that helps, especially, but Glenn almost never calls him pResident anymore, just Community Organizer. He, btw, took a lot of grief all day long for that comment.
    He backed tracked a little bit-but WHO ELSE HAS THE BALLs TO DO THAT? Because, WE ALL KNOW that Barry IS A RACIST! Right?

    Anyhoo, I cannot pretend to know why he is not addressing the BC issue
    but we have discussed here plenty of times that it is NOT the only issue. I know it is the main reason that I ended up here (I think) but since then, I have learned so much from so many of you and on my own, but I never would have without the prompts form you all.
    So, I am commited to becoming a Constitutional Watchdog, whether or not GB decides to take on the BC issue. I have spent enought time on that and although am still very much pissed off at the USURPER for his USURPING, I need to put my energy into action and GB has asked for help and I will do what I can. (when I have time as I am trying to save my struggling little jewelry business which has definitely seen a 40% drop in sales this year. *sigh*)
    So, we all do what we can or want for that matter. Some of us will do nothing-that’s just the way of the world.
    Glenn Beck gives me ho-nope-INSPIRATION and he makes me laugh. That goes a long way with me these days.

  12. rosettasister Says:

    This doesn’t seem kosher! Project Camelot has always stood by Dan and Marcia. Is it their fault if some guy says he’s been to Mars?!

    ***

    First, let’s drag Dan into a situation where he’ll certainly not oppose the social irresponsibility of PC becoming an open antivax political activism group because a movie is being dangled – they found out how that worked out. Now, let’s let him be supported by a fella who says he’s been suffering from a “neurological illness, making me bed ridden for 3 years” (Deacon’s own words in Zurich), and now CLAIMED HE’S PERSONALLY BEEN TO MARS???????

    I woke Dan up for that one. He stared at me, then chuckled, “Oh, God! I can see their next headlines: ‘Secret Government Witness, Batboy comes forward!'”

    They have turned themselves, once proclaimed as an outlet for whistleblowers, into a public advocacy that could get you ill or worse, and a sideshow for PUBLICITY STUNTS.

    As a result, Dr. Marcia Burisch (McDowell), on behalf of Eagles Disobey, Inc., will be formally withdrawing her permission for any/all materials relating to Eagles Disobey, herself, and Dr. Dan Burisch from being displayed on PC. They may, after this request, still decide to showcase Dan, as he is apparently one of the few on there with credibility, but at least the public will be informed that Eagles Disobey is NOT PARTICIPATING in the sideshow nonsense which seems to be the NOW OUT IN THE OPEN center focus of PC.

    Marci said we watched this same phenomenon with a .info site which used to be about Dan, then it was turned into a second rate yellow rag where Dan was claimed to be a member of the Priory of Sion, so the purveyors of that rag could try to get donations. Now, we are watching the publicity stunts go out of hand with PC. It is sad, nothing we can do about it, except not participate with them in the future, AND MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC IS FULLY AWARE THAT NONE OF US AT EAGLES DISOBEY ARE A PART IN ANY WAY OF THE GAMES WHICH ARE NOW UNDERWAY, AND KEEP ENCOURAGING SOCIALLY RESPONSIBLE BEHAVIORS.

    NOT EVEN ANOTHER TAINTED TALISMAN COULD SAVE THEIR CREDIBILITY, NOW.

    Stan

    (I saw the video being referred to here, and it was a little awkward, but Project Camelot doesn’t deserve to be treated this way.)

  13. j.b. Says:

    Troy, if you really want to get GB’s attn.,go to his site and TWEET him or become an insider and e-mail him. I know he reads the Insider e-mails………
    Incidentally, today I tweeted him (geez that sounds so idiotic) to ask him to replace “googling” with “search” on his shows. As Eric Schmidt, the CEO of Google is in The Tank for Barry.
    Google is a SHIT BOX as far as I’m concerned. No better than Barry, imo.
    I was using Bing, but now I seem to recall some shenanigans with that, too. It’s all upside down, that ‘s for sure.

  14. rosettasister Says:

    Stan is a Blue Meanie

    “I’m listening now and I am amazed that they (Project Camelot) are talking in such a good light about Dan Burisch. It makes me feel good that they are taking the higher road. WOW. I haven’t finished listening but so far they are discussing the time line and Dan’s work.”

  15. sdee Says:

    Not trusting anyone in the media and not having watched Beck all that much, I’ve been watching video tonite. So far I agree with you jb that the guy must be taking huge personal risk. I do not get the feeling it is ratings balancing act for him – that he knows freedom is on the line.

    There is a passion there. I get the same sense I did when I first listened to Geert Wilders. telling us that Islamization is a threat to all Western Civilization. He put his life on the line and became a man abandoned by his own government. I think Beck is going to need us.

  16. rosettasister Says:

    Dan and Marcia, Please don’t be too proud to say that you are sorry.

    If you believe Kerry is wrong, then tell her so.

    But she has gone out of her way to defend you.

    This is very unchivalrous of you.

    ***

    “Thanks Jag for pointing out two things, when someone attacks unjustly, such as the attack on Bill and Kerry from Marcia and Dan, your antenna shot straight up and you brought it out in the open on the forum.

    Second point is how you pointed out that this began because of what happened when Dan supported vaccinations. The whole scenario shifted, Dan and Marcia felt attacked, and then attacked Bill and Kerry – Their comments about the crystal seemed way off base, implying that Kerry had somehow tried to jeopardize the Lotus Project by giving a defective crystal, and how they were in need of apologies for the outburst from the audience… yes something is way off base.

    We all want to be charitable and keep things cool, especially now with global vaccinations etc. but a perspective also needs to be kept. Its unfortunate that this happened in Zurich but when push comes to shove, another side emerges during stressful situations.

    Psychic attacks could be responsible for some of it, but what about character? Do the actions of Dan and Marcia imply that felt they were doing Bill and Kerry a favor for coming to the conferences? Couldnt it also be the opposite as well?

    its a great thread, and glad that you took a stand ”

  17. j.b. Says:

    sdee Says:

    August 2, 2009 at 3:05 am
    Not trusting anyone in the media and not having watched Beck all that much, I’ve been watching video tonite. So far I agree with you jb that the guy must be taking huge personal risk. I do not get the feeling it is ratings balancing act for him – that he knows freedom is on the line.

    There is a passion there. I get the same sense I did when I first listened to Geert Wilders. telling us that Islamization is a threat to all Western Civilization. He put his life on the line and became a man abandoned by his own government. I think Beck is going to need us.

    Yessssssssssssssssssssssss! And we need him! Or at least should USE him as the valuable resource that he is.

  18. sdee Says:

    j.b. Says:
    I tweeted him (geez that sounds so idiotic) to ask him to replace “googling” with “search” on his shows. As Eric Schmidt, the CEO of Google is in The Tank for Barry.
    ******************

    jb – I’ve stopped using Google search. Using Bing (just as good as Google 95% of time) and ixquick (metasearch without keeping IP address).

  19. j.b. Says:

    http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2009/08/joseph-farah-come-blow-hisselfs-horn.html
    Any idea why LC hates Joseph Farah so much? Oh and what is he talking about? Nevermind…….LC is a nutjob, imo.

  20. Troy Says:

    Rose, I saw Mr. Newman, AKA “Henry Deacon” get up on stage and announce that he has been to Mars….My gut feeling says that he is a “nutjob” just like Benjamin Fulford turned out to be….I think, Kerry in particular has really allowed herself to be “taken in” by Newman….It was like watching a small child in a man’s body when he was led up on stage by Kerry, holding his hand….It was almost as if he was trying to steal Bob Dean’s thunder from him….And the Dean, almost like a child, had to get in a few more words after he had already ended his lecture to gain his thunder back….The whole thing bothered me and felt very disingenuine….Dan certainly has no right to roll his eyes at anyone elses claims, as his are way the hell out there also…..Kerry and Bill have an awful lot of people with wild stories to deal with and to try to weed out the BS vs the genuine whistle blowers…Some people for whatever reasons feel the need to make themselves seem really important or special and seek out praise from others….I guess I’m referring to inferiority complexes.

  21. j.b. Says:

    Yeah, Bing shows up automatic for me. Is Gates in the sack with Barry, too? If you know.

  22. j.b. Says:

    Nutjob, the new black.

  23. Troy Says:

    Yeah, Bing shows up automatic for me. Is Gates in the sack with Barry, too? If you know.
    **********************************************************
    Yes Bill and Robert both are.

  24. rosettasister Says:

    Troy Says:
    August 2, 2009 at 3:16 am

    Thanks, Troy.

    I’m just trying to figure out what’s going on.

    I don’t like this Stan guy.

    I don’t pretend to understand, but surely this is NOT love.

  25. rosettasister Says:

    Mostly, I’m just posting this in case I need to find it later.

    Please disregard.

    http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15708

  26. Troy Says:

    I stay away from BING…They participated in a coordinated effort to bury World Net Daily in the seaech engine….I use Scroogle….As you can tell by the name, they are anti Google.

  27. rosettasister Says:

    Re: Burisch pulls plug on PC

    seashore,

    Watch the Amsterdam Conference. It is very interesting. Kerry talked about what she did in Barcelona and why she did it. They talk highly of Dan Burisch’s work and even call him a white hat. I was happy to see that they are ignoring all the flap. Here is the link.

    http://www.ustream.tv/channel/project-camelot

  28. Troy Says:

    I hate to see the in-fighting over there…Burish knew he was going to piss some people of in Zurich and I think he enjoyed it…He has a big ego.

  29. rosettasister Says:

    “He has a big ego.”

    LOL! Ya think!

    Is this about Swine Flu vaccination?

    Burisch doesn’t agree with PC or someone PC is showcasing?

    Whatever, you don’t just throw people away like that.

  30. rosettasister Says:

    Ground Crew Amsterdam Conference with Bill Ryan & Kerry Cassidy – Part 1

    http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1906828

    Ground Crew Amsterdam Conference with Bill Ryan & Kerry Cassidy – Part 2

    http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1906921

  31. Troy Says:

    Yes it is all about the vaccine debate….Dan told people vaccines are a good thing and then the shit hit the fan.

  32. sdee Says:

    j.b. Says:
    August 2, 2009 at 3:16 am

    Yeah, Bing shows up automatic for me. Is Gates in the sack with Barry, too? If you know.
    ******************
    naw, other than I would think all major corporations need to work closely with all administrations especially high tech ones considering how this technology friendly this administration is.

    My caution lies not so much in the companies but the technologies used.

    Google makes its money from advertising – it’s success lies in its exceptional ability to sell targeted ads based on the context. It gets that context by looking analysing and recording everything you do with a Google application. When you sign up for gmail for example you give Google permission to run their bot code (origin of the term obot btw) through all of you mail looking for and analyzing keywords to target ads specific to you. Google has financial applications, health record apps, blogs, maps, directions etc all of which are analyzed and tied to a user for targeted advertising.

    Google ad licenses usually give them the unilateral right to remove and block any user without recourse. And, their sandboxing has gotten many a blogger pushed way back on page 25.

    If you read a Google license it will amaze you how much privacy people give up. They are now releasing Google Voice, a sophisticated VOIP telephone service which, by digitizing voice, will be able to do the same kind of keyword searches and targeted ads on peoples’ telephone calls. All of this is digital and internet based so normal FCC rules probaly need not apply. And remember, if you sign up for their really cool “free” phone service they hliley have bot technology to “listen in” digitally looking for ways to sell your conversation and stored voicemail information to targetted advertizers.

    Microsoft still makes its money primarily on selling applications and operating systems, not crawling through every bit and byte of your data.

    Google is curiosly entwined deep in DC. But, Google’s business success will always be tied to their ability to keep keep absolute privacy or users will lose trust and leave – so long as there is something to leave to, that is. All kinda creeps me out.

    sorry for long answer- hope it makes sense

  33. j.b. Says:

    Troy Says:

    August 2, 2009 at 3:26 am
    I stay away from BING…They participated in a coordinated effort to bury World Net Daily in the seaech engine….I use Scroogle….As you can tell by the name, they are anti Google.

    That’s what I’m talkin’ about! You may want to tweet that to GB. (if you don’t, I will) He loves that kinda stuff. I knew in my heart that Bing wasn’t right-but I had nothing to offer in place of “google”. My first thought was Dogpile. Guess what? That’s just all of ’em, Yahoo, Bing, google, in a pile.
    Scroogle, thanks, Troy.

  34. j.b. Says:

    sdee, I swear I read that google got bailout $. *shrugs*

  35. sdee Says:

    j.b. Says:
    August 2, 2009 at 3:16 am

    Yeah, Bing shows up automatic for me. Is Gates in the sack with Barry, too? If you know.
    ******************
    naw, other than I would think all major corporations need to work closely with all administrations especially high tech companies considering how this technology friendly this administration is.

    My caution lies not so much in the companies but the technologies used.

    Google makes its money from advertising – it’s success lies in its exceptional ability to sell targeted ads based on the context. It gets that context by looking, analyzing and recording everything you do with a Google application. When you sign up for gmail for example you give Google permission to run their bot code (origin of the term obot btw) through all of you mail looking for and analyzing keywords to target ads specific to you. Google has financial applications, health record apps, blogs, maps, directions etc all of which are analyzed and tied to a user for targeted advertising.

    Google ad licenses usually give them the unilateral right to remove and block any user without recourse. And, their sandboxing has gotten many a blogger pushed way back on page 25.

    If you read a Google license it will amaze you how much privacy people give up. They are now releasing Google Voice, a sophisticated VOIP telephone service which, by digitizing voice, will be able to do the same kind of keyword searches and targeted ads on peoples’ telephone calls. All of this is digital and internet based so normal FCC rules probably need not apply. And remember, if you sign up for their really cool “free” phone service they likely have bot technology to “listen in” digitally looking for ways to use your conversation keywords and stored voicemail information to targeted ads.

    Microsoft still makes its money primarily on selling applications and operating systems, not crawling through every bit and byte of your data.

    Google is now curiously entwined deep in DC. But, Google’s business success will always be tied to their ability to keep keep absolute privacy or users will lose trust and leave – so long as there is something to leave to, that is. All kinda creeps me out.

    sorry for long answer- hope it makes sense

  36. Troy Says:

    Google is way beyong friendly with the administration…Every single one of their top people were heavy contributors to the Obama campaign….I have a very sneaky suspicion that they are also up to their eyeballs in providing personal info to certain nefarious departments with the gov…I trust them about as far as I can throw them.

  37. Troy Says:

    I want to make clear that I have always been a big fan of Beck, but he has disappointed me by not reporting on certain issues….Even after Dobbs opened the door for all of them…Nothing!

  38. j.b. Says:

    I hear ya, Troy. Oh and me too, as far as your 3:58 post.
    K-Gotta move my butt to a different chair…..later on, peeps.

  39. sdee Says:

    j.b. Says:
    August 2, 2009 at 3:57 am

    sdee, I swear I read that google got bailout $. *shrugs*
    ***************

    maybe, but Google is not short of cash – I think it is far more complex.

  40. rosettasister Says:

    “Due to the lack of response, and hostility being perceived as Eagles Disobey is NOT BUYING the anti-vax stance, as anything other than acts to justify culling of the population with an origin of person(s) unknown (read ILLUMINATI), by manipulating the people through fear to allow their being unprotected through lack of vaccination, Eagles Disobey has severed its relationship with Project Camelot.”

    (Okay, that sounds pretty nuts to me!)

    “acts to justify culling of the population”

    So Dan and Marcia honestly believe this is Kerry’s ulterior motive?!

    As my son is fond of saying, “That’s not cool!”

  41. sdee Says:

    just checked over at Drudge. Looks like CallyForNeeAh unions are going to strike. Hmmm – that’d be the SEIU.

    That’s sure to help out the CA economy.

    It’s kinda like watching our future unfold.

  42. Troy Says:

    Mario Apuzzo’s site is being attacked by Google and Obots.

    http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2009/07/censorship-by-google-and-blogspot.html

  43. Troy Says:

    Rose, it sounds like Dan and Marcia are being real jackasses!!!

    Their actions are the equivelant of Bill and Kerry announcing that all of Dan’s testimony to them was all fabricated. (hypothetical)

  44. sdee Says:

    Obama bends over and takes a pitch from Castro:

    “”President Raul Castro said on Saturday he would not change Cuba’s communist system to make peace with the United States, but repeated his willingness to discuss all issues with the island’s longtime enemy.

    In a speech to the Cuban National Assembly, Castro acknowledged the United States under President Barack Obama was less “aggressive” toward Cuba, but he expressed irritation with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton for saying repeatedly that Washington expected Havana to make changes in exchange for better relations.””

    Ain’t that grand” “That Obama’s a nice fellow but lay off all this silly talk about concessions or preconditions, will ya?”

    http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE57102420090802

  45. Troy Says:

    Ok, so Dan is basically saying that Kerry is an Illuminatist….Ok, Dan is now officially a dick!!!

  46. sdee Says:

    Troy Says:
    August 2, 2009 at 4:13 am

    Mario Apuzzo’s site is being attacked by Google and Obots.

    ********************

    hmmmm – surely a co-inkydink

  47. Troy Says:

    Look people, lets go ahead and make one thing perfectly clear with no beating around the bush….Obama is a COMMUNIST and I don’t mean that as a joke….Our country is being attacked from within by a communist administration with the agenda to transform the government into communism….I’m not trying to be a prick here…This is the absolute truth and the sooner people wake up and recognize it, the sooner we can defeat these idiots.

  48. Troy Says:

    That wasn’t me repeating Beck either….I’ve known this from the day he was elected….I’m surprised that Beck is finally reporting on it.

  49. rosettasister Says:

    There’s a lot of material on Project Camelot that I have no interest in.

    I’m not saying Kerry is without fault in this situation.

    I believe if you feel someone has wronged you, you should let them know how you feel.

    If you feel you are owed an apology, then you should let them know that, too.

    You may not ever get one, but at least you’ve let them know where you stand.

    For the life of me, I cannot understand why some people can’t say, “I’m sorry.”

    I once had a fellow teacher tell me that it was easier NOT to say that.

    At least he was honest.

    We all have to meet our Maker someday. Is this kind of behavior something you’re going to be proud of?

    This is why I always say that the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom.

  50. rosettasister Says:

    Well, I don’t know if Dan is a dick, but Stan is definitely a dick.

    Let’s see, who else can we call a dick?!

  51. rosettasister Says:

    Dick the Detective!

  52. rosettasister Says:

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  55. rosettasister Says:

    http://www.projectcamelot.org/dan_burisch_interview_transcript_1.html

    http://www.projectcamelot.org/dan_burisch_interview_transcript_2.html

    http://www.projectcamelot.org/dan_burisch_interview_transcript_3.html

  56. rosettasister Says:

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  57. Troy Says:

  58. rosettasister Says:

    Reposting:

    More manna from heaven for the conspiracy minded:

    http://www.welcometotheuniverse.com/int_burisch1.html

    http://www.welcometotheuniverse.com/int_burisch2.html

    http://www.welcometotheuniverse.com/int_burisch3.html

    http://www.welcometotheuniverse.com/int_burisch4.html

    http://welcometotheuniverse.com/int_burisch5.html

    http://www.welcometotheuniverse.com/article_280309.html

    Good night, good people!

  59. rosettasister Says:

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    Radio Affiliates: http://www.coasttocoastam.com/affiliates

    Good night!

  60. jrinNC Says:

    This article was emailed to me – thought I would pass it on:

    545 PEOPLE
    By Charlie Reese
    Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper.

    Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

    Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?

    Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?

    You and I don’t propose a federal budget. The President does.

    You and I don’t have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.

    You and I don’t write the tax code, Congress does.

    You and I don’t set fiscal policy, Congress does.

    You and I don’t control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

    One hundred Senators, 435 Congressmen, one President, and nine Supreme Court justices — 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

    I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.

    I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a President to do one cotton-picking thing. I don’t care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator’s responsibility to determine how he votes.

    Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party. What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits. The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

    The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes.

    Who is the speaker of the House? Nancy Pelosi. She is the leader of the majority party. She and fellow House members, not the President, can approve any budget they want. If the President vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

    It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million can not replace 545 people who stand convicted — by present facts — of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can’t think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

    If the tax code is unfair, it’s because they want it unfair.

    If the budget is in the red, it’s because they want it in the red ..

    If the Army & Marines are in IRAQ , it’s because they want them in IRAQ .

    If they do not receive Social Security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it’s because they want it that way.

    There are no insoluble government problems.

    Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power..

    Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like “the economy,” “inflation,” or “politics” that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

    Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.

    They, and they alone, have the power.

    They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses.

    Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees.

    We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!

    *******************************************************
    I am against the electoral college – I think each state should have 2 representatives – one dem one rep – no senators just reps. One body of congress with these 100 people period. No czars, no nothing but them. They should concentrate only on the running of this country. The pres should be just a figure head who is representative of this country based on the law of the land (the Constitution) and the wishes of the people represented by the two reps. No veto power for the pres – no nothing. All decisions should come from these 100 people who will then truly act in a bipartisan way. Term should be no more than 4 years period. Then they have to give up their seat and a new set of folks come in. But this is just my opinion. Now that would be REAL CHANGE.

  61. rosettasister Says:

    KoolAid_Free_Lexi Says:
    August 2, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    Troy Says:
    August 1, 2009 at 11:57 pm

    I’ll tell ya what JB….I will contact Glenn Beck ONE MORE TIME and give him ONE MORE CHANCE….He says he wants an army of constitutional watchdogs….Fine!!!….My letter to him will be a long one like Lou Dobbs recieved….I will demand a personal response from him….If he is so hell bent on protecting the constitution then his ass had better start with the fact that Obama is constitutionally ineligible to hold the office of prez…If he isn’t willing to make a stand then I see no reason to stand with him…I have given him several chances, but I will give him one more…I usually don’t do that.

    *********

    That’s exactly my thinking too, Troy. If he wants to lead and encourage CWD’s (constitutional watch dogs) then he can’t just blow the issue off like it’s a settled matter.

    Is he job scared? Our founding father’s pledged their wealth and I will gladly send him a few bucks each month (while it’s still available to send) if he were to lose his job for reporting the WHOLE truth. I would bet other “watch dogs” would too.

    I think I’ll send off a little note to Beck too, to back you up. Hope others here will too.

    BTW, happy belated B-day 🙂

    And Katey, I’m glad your news is good concerning your Dad!

  62. rosettasister Says:

    8:24 AM Pacific

    Good morning, jr!

  63. rosettasister Says:

    Real Clear Politics Video

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/08/02/

  64. Troy Says:

    Hey people, get over to Orly’s blog RIGHT AWAY….Something VERY BIG may be happening….Just wait until you see this!!!!

    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/?p=3583

  65. rosettasister Says:

    Lou Dobbs challenges his own network

    http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/entertainment&id=6943214

    Dobbs hasn’t made it any easier by using his radio show to fight back at critics, who he called “limp-minded, lily-livered lefty lemmings.” He considered going on CNN tormentor Bill O’Reilly’s Fox News show to thank him (O’Reilly says the birthers are wrong, but he defended Dobbs’ right to talk about it).

  66. rosettasister Says:

    Troy Says:
    August 2, 2009 at 3:31 pm

    Troy,

    Others were discussing this earlier.

    Has Taitz commented?

  67. rosettasister Says:

    What’s this?

  68. Troy Says:

    Has Taitz commented?

    ********************
    I haven’t heard a peep yet…I wonder if this is the E-BAY document.

  69. rosettasister Says:

    Is this really it? (re: possible Obama’s Kenyan B.C. – Attny Taitz)

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2306351/posts

    Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

    Barry’s Kenyan B.C.??

    Special Motion for leave

    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/

  70. rosettasister Says:

    Daily Kooks are commenting.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/8/2/74149/84224

  71. rosettasister Says:

    http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=1591

    I suspect this relates to a report in January 2009—Globe Magazine; January 12, 2009 issue, Vol. 56, Number 02; p.30:

    The document released overnight claims the birth took place at Coast General Hospital in Coast Province, Mombasa, Kenya. However, to date, the only official word I’ve seen has come in the above Globe article:

    “We do not have computerized records going back to the 1960’s and can only sort through our archives by hand,” Dr. Christopher Mwanga, an administrator at the Mombasa hospital tells GLOBE. “We have searched for all the names of babies born on Aug. 4, 1961, and have not found the name of Barack Hussein Obama. That is all I can tell you.”

    Is the document the famous eBay Fraudster’s Kenya Birth Certificate?

  72. Katie Says:

    Thanks, Lexi.

    Wish I could say the news was all good on my father. There’s some serious issues with brain function (or lack thereof) and personality change. It’s still early and we don’t know how much of it will get better, but it’s caught all of us off guard.

  73. rosettasister Says:

    http://americangrandjury.org/obama-kenya-birth-registration-dr-orly-taitz

  74. Troy Says:

    Ok, I viewed the document on someone else’s computer that has software for magnification and I can say that it looks like the real deal!!!

    It looks a hell of a lot more real than that idotic COLB that Obama Factcheck and Daily KooKs put up.

  75. Katie Says:

    So much for a slow newsday…this is going to be interesting.

  76. rosettasister Says:

    Linda Starr

    http://obamacitizenshipdebate.org/2009/08/obamas-kenyan-birth-certificate.html

    Orly Taitz has obtained an interesting document. Whether it’s legit or not, we will probably know soon. She has taken Dr. Alan Keyes on as a Plaintiff in an Obama eligibility case, since Dr. Keyes ran against Obama in the Primaries.

    Taitz’s site is currently under risk of Malware, so I won’t post her link here right now. The hackers ( or possibly “others”) have gotten to her site.

    Could it be legit? Here’s a link to the image.

  77. Troy Says:

    Is the document the famous eBay Fraudster’s Kenya Birth Certificate?
    *********************************************************
    Who ever said he was a fraudster?…That was just assumed.

  78. rosettasister Says:

    Motion for rogatory discovery to authenticate Kenyan Birth Certificate of Barack Hussein Obama

    http://www.owlamerica.com/2009/08/motion-for-rogatory-discovery-to.html

    8:09-cv-00082-DOC-AN Ambassador Alan Keyes PhD, et al v. Barack Hussein Obama, et al

    Notice of Electronic Filing

    The following transaction was entered by Taitz, Orly on 8/1/2009 at 10:08 PM PDT and filed on 8/1/2009

    Case Name: Ambassador Alan Keyes PhD, et al v. Barack Hussein Obama, et al

    Case Number: 8:09-cv-82

    Filer: Alan Keyes PhD

    Document Number: 34

    Docket Text:

    NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

    (Attachments: # (1) Appendix Photocopy of Obama’s birth certificate from Kenya)(Taitz, Orly)

    8:09-cv-82 Notice has been electronically mailed to:

    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA david.dejute@usdoj.gov

  79. rosettasister Says:

    Sunday, August 2, 2009

    Obama’s Kenyan Birth Certificate?- Orly Taitz Email

    http://loyaltoliberty.blogspot.com/2009/08/email-from-dr-orly-taitz.html

    Not long ago (10:51 am Aug.2) I received an email from Dr. Orly Taitz containing the information posted below. When I attempted to follow the link to her site I encountered what appeared to be a Google warning advisory with the heading “Reported Attack Site!”

    I have had no opportunity to discuss this matter with Dr. Taitz. I make no claims as to the authenticity of the document that is the subject and occasion for the discovery motion. In this age of technically proficient fabrication, a healthy scepticism is a necessary safeguard against disinformation. But proper investigation is the best way to deal with the possibility of deception, and that is all people like me have consistently ask for.

    If Loyal to Liberty is suddenly made inaccessible after this posting, a dose of healthy scepticism as to the cause will certainly be in order, wouldn’t you say?

  80. Troy Says:

    People!!!….Has God just answered our prayers?….The list of corrupt DC assholes that will bite the dust, if this KBC is authentic, is a long one indeed….Can you say, Bye Bye Nancy?

  81. rosettasister Says:

    I’m just posting whatever I find, from left right and center.

    So grain of salt and all that.

  82. rosettasister Says:

    Is this really smoking gun of Obama’s Kenyan birth?

    Attorney files motion for authentication of alleged 1960s certificate from Africa

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105764

  83. Troy Says:

    Hehehe…and I thought this was going to be a boring Sunday….Lmaooo

  84. Troy Says:

    I bet the Daily Kooks are crapping all over themselves.

  85. rosettasister Says:

    http://twitter.com/avpbroker/statuses/3087654366

    RT @OneVeritas: camntxBO Kenya Birth Registration – Dr. Orly Taitz: http://tinyurl.com/csvngn ~ this one looks real

  86. Troy Says:

    The news is already at Leo’s site….He has made a few comments.

    http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/08/01/wall-street-journal-via-james-taranto-continue-propaganda-lies/#comments

  87. rosettasister Says:

    Obama’s Real Birth Certificate? Thanks Greg Goss

    http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=2761

    Copied from Dr. Orly Taitz website. Her site is under attack so I am posting here what her site say as it relates to this document. Dr. Taitz is on her way to the UK to try an verify the document.

    UPDATE. My question is why the February request date and I was answered with the divorce date of Stanley Ann & Brack Obama Sr. was filed in January of 1964, ironically January 20th to be exact, and the divorce was granted on March 14, 1964. So the February date fits.

  88. rosettasister Says:

    The Tree Of Liberty > Public > Committees of Correspondence Obama’s Kenyan Birth Certificate ?

    http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/showthread.php?t=71506

  89. rosettasister Says:

    Obama Kenyan, Kenyan birth certificate, Orly Taitz, smoking gun, Obama not natural born citizen, Usurper, Mombasa Kenya birth certificate

    http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2009/08/02/obama-kenyan-kenyan-birth-certificate-orly-taitz-smoking-gun-obama-not-natural-born-citizen-usurper-mombasa-kenya-birth-certificate/

  90. rosettasister Says:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306351/posts?page=315#315

    To: mel

    Can you believe this many people are up in the middle of the night…
    Yeah, I can. This is the biggest thing to come out on this issue since it began.
    My wife is gonna kill me when she gets up, but this is just too big. I gotta stick with it for at least a little longer.

    315 posted on Sunday, August 02, 2009 3:31:35 AM by Windflier

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306351/posts?page=1261#1261

    To: Polarik; All

    Polarik, I’m sure you are all over this, but I’m getting worried about this.
    Can you look up close at the odd pixelation on the typed and form printed words?

    1,261 posted on Sunday, August 02, 2009 7:46:01 AM by autumnraine

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306351/posts?page=1163#1163

    To: autumnraine

    I thought cooler heads would prevail, but I have to step in here:
    first, the issue of the Kenyan BC: this was information the law offices of Phil Berg has before the 2008 election. Specifically, the image posted is NOT the same as the Kenyan BC described in phone calls in fall 2008. Folks, this isn’t it. Yes, the BC is a valid issue, but pursuing this one will backfire.

    And second, the issue of people going after Polarik: this has less to do with the man, and more to do with trying to discredit all who challenge Obama. So lay off Ron. Let’s keep our eyes on the prize.

    1,163 posted on Sunday, August 02, 2009 7:27:52 AM by phil.jberg

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306351/posts?page=1189#1189

    To: phil.jberg

    Welcome to FR.
    We’re doing what we often do on FR- brainstorm, toss ideas around to be checked out, refuted or verified.
    Clearly- there is MUCH that is NOT known. It is possible that the Kenyan bc that was the subject of the phone conversation you refer to is not authentic. This one may not be either- but we continue to dig, research and hunt.

    1,189 posted on Sunday, August 02, 2009 7:32:49 AM by SE Mom

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306351/posts?page=1369#1369

    To: SE Mom; phil.jberg

    You are right, we will throw all sorts of stuff out there, not as fact but hoping someone can confirm or deny an aspect of it.
    Like throwing darts blindfolded, hoping one stick on bullseye.

    1,369 posted on Sunday, August 02, 2009 8:15:19 AM by autumnraine

  91. j.b. Says:

    I just sent the scribd pic to Glenn Beck!

  92. Bones Says:

    Careful going to Orly’s site… when I go there my antivirus software gives me the following message, which means it could have been compromised somehow and there could be some software on it that could obtain information from you.

    Reported Attack Site!

    This web site at http://www.orlytaitzesq.com has been reported as an attack site and has been blocked based on your security preferences.

    Attack sites try to install programs that steal private information, use your computer to attack others, or damage your system.

    Some attack sites intentionally distribute harmful software, but many are compromised without the knowledge or permission of their owners.

  93. j.b. Says:

    The Obamabots have reported her site as an attack site.(there was a reposrt on it yesterday) She says her place is “clean”. I would proceed with caution, however.

  94. rosettasister Says:

    Something to do with Orly site warning:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2306351/posts?page=2069#2069

    To: nightlight7

    It adds this code to document.body:

    Looks like it’s including some malware code from another site and puts it into an iframe.

    Perhaps a key logger or something. Yes, looks very infected…

    2,069 posted on Sunday, August 02, 2009 11:07:39 AM by cartan

  95. Troy Says:

    j.b. Says:

    August 2, 2009 at 5:58 pm
    I just sent the scribd pic to Glenn Beck!
    ********************************
    Hehehe….I did that first thing this morning. 😀

  96. Troy Says:

    Bones Says:

    August 2, 2009 at 6:00 pm
    Careful going to Orly’s site… when I go there my antivirus software gives me the following message, which means it could have been compromised somehow and there could be some software on it that could obtain information from you.

    Reported Attack Site!
    ********************************************************
    I’ve been to Orly’s site several times today and have not had a single problem…I’ve have had no alerts….It might be a bluff installed by the Obots to discourage people from going there.

  97. Bones Says:

    This could be a plant to make the “birthers” look bad, the planter knowing full well it would turn out to be a fraud, and then everyone would start ignoring “those birther wingnuts”. Just putting that out there as a possibility. Until confirmed, it is just one more document, not known to be any more or less valid currently than the Certification of Live Birth that the Obama people provided. So at present, no confirmation of where Obama was born, and the fact remains that regardless of where he was born, the “natural born citizen” issue is still the one in the center of the table.

    On the other hand, if this new document CAN be verified…. whoa.

  98. rosettasister Says:

    Has Obama’s Long Form Birth Certificate been Found?

    http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/blog/id.2723/blog_detail.asp

    Attorney Orley Taitz claims she has found an official copy of Barack Obama’s birth certificate, and what she has was not issued in Hawaii.

    Click here for details .

    http://radiopatriot.blogspot.com/2009/08/smoking-gun.html

    Nothing has been verified, and it will surely have to undergo extensive forensic analyis in order to prove – or disprove – its authenticity.

    If it’s real, what then? That is the question that should be on everyone’s lips.

  99. Bones Says:

    FYI, here’s the text from a diagnostic page for Orly’s site provided when I asked for more info from the “attack” report page:

    What is the current listing status for http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1?

    Site is listed as suspicious – visiting this web site may harm your computer.

    Part of this site was listed for suspicious activity 1 time(s) over the past 90 days.

    What happened when Google visited this site?

    Of the 12 pages we tested on the site over the past 90 days, 4 page(s) resulted in malicious software being downloaded and installed without user consent. The last time Google visited this site was on 2009-08-01, and the last time suspicious content was found on this site was on 2009-08-01.

    Malicious software includes 5 scripting exploit(s). Successful infection resulted in an average of 2 new process(es) on the target machine.

    Malicious software is hosted on 3 domain(s), including cybercrime-protection.cn/, security-alerts.cn/, mcafee-malware.com/.

    1 domain(s) appear to be functioning as intermediaries for distributing malware to visitors of this site, including security-alerts.cn/.

    This site was hosted on 1 network(s) including AS6245 (NETWORK).

    Has this site acted as an intermediary resulting in further distribution of malware?

    Over the past 90 days, http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1 appeared to function as an intermediary for the infection of 1 site(s) including zillr.com/.

    Has this site hosted malware?

    No, this site has not hosted malicious software over the past 90 days.

    How did this happen?

    In some cases, third parties can add malicious code to legitimate sites, which would cause us to show the warning message.

  100. KoolAid_Free_Lexi Says:

    I get the message at the link to her blog. Not on her homepage.
    Tested the water — ignored the warning and entered the site. At first I did get a warning from my anti-virus and my web shield blocked access of malicious site security access — whatever that means.

    There was no alarm. My anti-virus usually sounds an audible alarm when I run upon a website that tries to download malware, etc on my machine and ask if I want to terminate.

    I’m going to reboot and see if I get any info from hi-jack this! BBL

  101. rosettasister Says:

    http://www.evilconservativeonline.com/2009/08/is-this-barack-obamas-kenyan-birth.html

    Is This Barack Obama’s Kenyan Birth Certificate?

    This image, purporting to be of Barack Hussein Obama’s kenyan birth certificate, has been emailed to me twice in the last 24 hours. Is this a hoax, or a smoking gun attesting to Obama’s perfidy?

    Speaking only for myself, I have NO IDEA if this is valid or not. It may just be a complete fabrication. But as Obama plaintiff Charles Kerchner said, “it’s at least as valid as Obama’s online COLB” being waved around on MSNBC and held by Factcheck.org.

  102. Tenacity Says:

    Yeah, I let Orly know her blog site was being blocked about 1:00 am this morning. I believe its Google that blocking it. I have been able to get to her home page but not her blog. She is not making much comment until she has independent verification of the documents authenticity. WND broke the story and verified that the form is identical to Coast Province’s 1964 CCoRoB forms. No one has any reason to believe it is not authentic at this time.

  103. Bones Says:

    Why, on the Loyaltoliberty site, is the 4 in 1964 cut off in the photo?

    If this thing is authentic, it is a certified copy obtained in 1964. I find it strange that the 4 was cut off, it looks like the people who want it to be authentic are willing to do things to it to make it appear more so (but end up making it appear less so). Either it is or it isn’t, but unfortunately the experts will only be able to say if it IS a forgery, not if it isn’t.

  104. KoolAid_Free_Lexi Says:

    “hijack this” has nothing suspicious to report.

    I do not get an alert pg using IE. I get it when using firefox.

  105. rosettasister Says:

    http://caosblog.com/10866

    The Smoking Gun pointing toward Obama’s Kenyan birth

    By: Cao

    At Worldnetdaily, Orly Taitz has produced some very incriminating evidence.

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105764

  106. Bones Says:

    I was using Firefox.

    Puzzle pieces starting to come together. Happening for anyone else?

  107. Troy Says:

    Bones Says:

    August 2, 2009 at 6:33 pm
    Why, on the Loyaltoliberty site, is the 4 in 1964 cut off in the photo?

    If this thing is authentic, it is a certified copy obtained in 1964. I find it strange that the 4 was cut off, it looks like the people who want it to be authentic are willing to do things to it to make it appear more so (but end up making it appear less so). Either it is or it isn’t, but unfortunately the experts will only be able to say if it IS a forgery, not if it isn’t.
    **********************************************************
    There are copies all over the Internet that show the “4”….People this document doesn’t have to be examined by anyone to prove whether or not Obama was born in Kenya….The info, alone, within the doc is enough to allow investigation to get to the bottom of it…It has names and a signature…That is all will take with a little bit of investigating.

  108. Bones Says:

    Good point Troy: the info in the document can now be checked.

    Excellent.

  109. rosettasister Says:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2306351/posts?q=1&;page=2222#2222

    I can’t vouch for the veracity of the Kenyan birth certificate itself, not knowing how or from whom Orly obtained the birth certificate (the chain of evidence). It may have been obtained quite surreptitiously from the only filed Kenyan birth certificate record copy requested — likely generated from the 1964 divorce.

    It’s QUITE possible that all other copies of this Kenyan birth certificate may have been scrubbed from Kenyan archives, but this one may have survived in a lone Vital Statistics office somewhere in Kenya not known about until now.

    HOWEVER — the dates DO “line up” for the Kenyan Birth Certificate to be REAL.

    2,222 posted on Sunday, August 02, 2009 11:44:30 AM by BP2

  110. Troy Says:

    Orly has headed out for the UK to find verifiable proof.

  111. Tenacity Says:

    Thanks for the IE tip Lexi

  112. Bones Says:

    Does anyone have a form from prior to Dec 1964 from Kenya that refers to Kenya as “Republic of Kenya?” There seems to be some disagreement about this, some stating that while Kenya became independent in Dec 1963, it wasn’t established as “Republic of Kenya” until December 1964. (see various discussions on Free Republic)

    So the question is whether such documents the year prior to Dec 1964 were in fact labeled with “Republic of Kenya.”

  113. sisterrosetta Says:

    http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=6908

  114. Troy Says:

    Bones,
    In the World Net Daily article, they said that they have compared it with others from that same period and they are identical.

  115. Troy Says:

    Thanks for the email, Ten.

  116. Bones Says:

    Troy, does it say from the same period? This is what I read on WND:

    “WND was able to obtain other birth certificates from Kenya for purposes of comparison, and the form of the documents appear to be identical. ”

    No mention of dates?

  117. Troy Says:

    Bones, I can’t imagine them comparing forms that are years apart and they said, “documents appear to be identical. ”….If they are Identical, does it really matter if they were a year or two apart…Identical means just that…SAME!!!

  118. Troy Says:

    I have, upon close inspection, found only one oddity/anomalie with the KBC…It isn’t a “deal breaker”, but is, nevertheless, odd…I will report on this shortly.

  119. j.b. Says:

    Troy Says:

    August 2, 2009 at 6:14 pm
    j.b. Says:

    August 2, 2009 at 5:58 pm
    I just sent the scribd pic to Glenn Beck!
    ********************************
    Hehehe….I did that first thing this morning.

    🙂

  120. Bones Says:

    It only matters because if forms between Dec 1963 and Dec 1964 specifically did not use “Republic of Kenya,” then that would go against this document being authentic. I haven’t been able to find any documents for comparison, but I can guarantee you someone who has more resources than I do is trying to discover what they were using on their forms *during that one year*, as we speak. I’m sure WND is on the case.

  121. j.b. Says:

    Speaking only for myself, I have NO IDEA if this is valid or not. It may just be a complete fabrication. But as Obama plaintiff Charles Kerchner said, “it’s at least as valid as Obama’s online COLB” being waved around on MSNBC and held by Factcheck.org.

    My thoughts, exactly.

  122. j.b. Says:

    Troy Says:

    August 2, 2009 at 6:54 pm
    Orly has headed out for the UK to find verifiable proof.

    Uhh, group prayer much? She needs it. That and I hope she has a body guard. Not to be confused with Barry’s Body Man. eeeuuuwwwwww.

  123. jrinNC Says:

    Wow – I am excited over this news – I sure hope it is for real.

    Yeah, Bones I get the same thing when I go to Orly’s site and I am on firefox also. I reported this problem on here yesterday on previous thread but no one responded with confirmation of the same problem. But I only get the attack info when I go to blog1 not her main web site.

  124. CJ Says:

    Wow this could be an exciting week. Even if this isn’t an authentic bc–sure looks like it is though–it may force the great one to cough up some of his records to prove it. Ha, maybe he is now caught in his own web of lies. Get the popcorn out and say some prayers. Maybe the Lord is ready to save his most beloved land America. The Obots must be exploding right now. Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of loons.

  125. sliderblaze Says:

    hey fine people

  126. Tenacity Says:

    say Slider

  127. Troy Says:

    Wassup Sliderman?

  128. jrinNC Says:

    24 Hour Prayer Clock Setup
    Posted on August 2nd, 2009 by Lynn Dartez

    http://www.oilforimmigration.org/

    2Ch 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

    *********************************************************
    I for one will be praying that God will reveal the deceit that is being placed on the American people. While our country does have its problems – isn’t it great to be in America. While I don’t know how everyone feels about religion I ask that each of you take a few moments and reflect on what has happened in our country these past 6 months and ask you at least to acknowledge that we need help in bringing to light all the deceit that is taking place.

  129. Troy Says:

    The KBC anomalie that I mentioned earlier is not much at all….It is simply some blurred text in the form field that should call for the SEX of the child….It appears that the person, in 1964, that inserted this generic form into a manual typewriter accidentally began to type out the word “Male” over the top of the form word, SEX…It appears that the mistake was caught and the form was moved by the typewriter to the proper blank area and the word “Male” was then typed in.

  130. Troy Says:

    jr, I couldn’t agree with you more…Nice post!!!

  131. jrinNC Says:

    Very interesting article on the Kenyan BC.
    From Lame Cherry – What I can tell you about Kenyan Obama

    http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/

  132. Troy Says:

    Rose,
    Please keep your eyes open for comments from Polarik over at FR…The embossed seal on the KBC has some words on it that can’t quite be read in it’s current form….Ron will be able to add/adjust color and or transform it into a negative view to reveal the text…I’m dying to know!!!

    Thanks

  133. rosettasister Says:

    Troy Says:
    August 2, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    Rose,

    Please keep your eyes open for comments from Polarik over at FR…The embossed seal on the KBC has some words on it that can’t quite be read in it’s current form….Ron will be able to add/adjust color and or transform it into a negative view to reveal the text…I’m dying to know!!!

    Thanks

    ***

    Eyes Wide Open, Troy!

    Polarik is not commenting at FR, at least not yet.

    And pissant is being strangely silent on this new development.

    That’s not like pissant.

  134. rosettasister Says:

    Not sure what all of this means, if anything.

    ***

    Certifigate: Claim: Obama Kenyan Birth Registration? The Saga Continues

    http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=6908

    As Free Republic notices

    Finally, the security watermarking on the paper seems to be in German or perhaps Dutch… Yet this is a British Colony. Something’s not kosher.

    I can make out what seems to be

    “…KERHIET GOED DUT DIT ZALNUT VERANDIRES DIT IST GEEN GELDIG DOCUMENT VAN DE OVELHEID. DIT IS POLITIEKI COMMINTAAR HU IS VOURZITTER VOOR MINSTEN DREI EN EEN HALT VAN . . .”

    Could be South African Afrikaans?

    Another irregularity is that the document is dated early 1964 while Kenya did not officially become a Republic in December 1964. So why does it say “The Republic of Kenya”. In fact the original Kenya Constitution of 1963, Kenya became independent in December 1963, does not use the term Republic of Kenya, just Kenya.

    ***

    How do these two statements match?:

    WND was able to obtain other birth certificates from Kenya for purposes of comparison, and the form of the documents appear to be identical.

    and

    Another irregularity is that the document is dated early 1964 while Kenya did not officially become a Republic in December 1964. So why does it say “The Republic of Kenya”. In fact the original Kenya Constitution of 1963, Kenya became independent in December 1963, does not use the term Republic of Kenya, just Kenya.

    Did WND take this into consideration?

    ***

    I’ve recently updated the posting with commentary from another anonymous commenter on another site that could help to explain some of the purported inconsistencies.

    -Phil

  135. rosettasister Says:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306351/posts?page=2964#2964

    To: cynwoody

    ” It’s been pointed out that the Republic of Kenya came into existence on 12 December 1964.”

    Yes, but The Republic of Kenya declared it’s independence in 1963 and acted independantly from that point on.

    Oops.

    2,964 posted on Sunday, August 02, 2009 2:16:55 PM by autumnraine

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306351/posts?page=2237#2237

    To: rxsid

    It says “Republic of Kenya.” Kenya did not become an independent republic until 1963, and wasn’t called “Republic of Kenya” until 1964.

    0bama was born in 1961, when it was called the Dominion of Kenya.

    2,237 posted on Sunday, August 02, 2009 11:46:49 AM by G8 Diplomat

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306351/posts?page=2984#2984

    To: G8 Diplomat; All

    So what’s your point?? So what if there was no “Republic of Kenya” in 1961, this document was ISSUED in 1964. You think they would go back and reissue a document that was a United Kingdom document?

    Man, people have lost their everloving mind.

    Either DUers are over here trying to knock this issue down, or Freepers with large ego’s cannot handle possibly being wrong by bashing Freepers who have looked into this issue in depth for months now.

    2,984 posted on Sunday, August 02, 2009 2:20:27 PM by autumnraine

  136. rosettasister Says:

    Shocking New Birth Certificate Proof Obama Born In Kenya?

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/shocking-new-birth-certificate-proof-obama-born-in-kenya.html

  137. rosettasister Says:

    Taitz Moves For Authentication Of
    Kenyan Birth Certificate

    http://www.rense.com/general86/moves.htm

  138. rosettasister Says:

    http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2009/08/breaking-news-picture-of-obamas-birth.html

    Nick said…

    Would it be possible (and if so, advantageous) under the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure for you to make a new emergency filing before the judge rules tomorrow, pointing out this new discovery?

    August 2, 2009 2:56 PM

    cfkerchner said…

    Any such filing would only delay the decision process on standing and we do not wish to do anything to delay that decision. We must get past the issue of standing before any of the merits can be considered by the court. Unfortunately for common sense at times like this, that is the rules of the court, and we are best to not making any emergency filings at this time. This new evidence does not go to standing but does of course enter strongly into the case when we get to the documents and merits in the case.

    Charles

    August 2, 2009 3:37 PM

  139. Troy Says:

    rosettasister Says:

    August 2, 2009 at 10:31 pm
    Not sure what all of this means, if anything.

    ***

    Certifigate: Claim: Obama Kenyan Birth Registration? The Saga Continues

    http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=6908

    As Free Republic notices

    Finally, the security watermarking on the paper seems to be in German or perhaps Dutch… Yet this is a British Colony. Something’s not kosher.
    *********************************************************
    Rose, these comments are from the ridiculous KBC from last week, I believe.

  140. rosettasister Says:

    http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2009/08/02/kenyan-obama-birth-certificate-revealed/

    http://www.politicalbyline.com/2009/08/02/could-this-be-the-actual-birth-certificate-of-president-obama/

    http://voxday.blogspot.com/2009/08/good-news-they-found-hospital.html

    http://littlegreenfootballs.com/link/183388_Born_in_the_USA

  141. rosettasister Says:

    http://www.memeorandum.com/090802/p27#a090802p27

  142. rosettasister Says:

    Andrew Sullivan: Release the birth certificate

    Influential columnist, blogger joins rising chorus for official ‘transparency’

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105773

  143. rosettasister Says:

    Kenyan Ambassador admits Obama born in Kenya

  144. Troy Says:

    rosettasister Says:

    August 2, 2009 at 11:24 pm
    Andrew Sullivan: Release the birth certificate
    *************************************
    I wouldn’t piss on Andrew Sullivan if he were on fire….He was one of the very first ringleaders in trashing Sarah Palin and spreading around the garbage that Sarah’s baby was actuaaly her daughter’s.

  145. rosettasister Says:

    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_073109/content/01125104.guest.html

    Story #8: Andy McCarthy’s Brilliant Piece on Obama’s Honesty

    RUSH: Oh, that birther thing, you know, the birth certificate thing. Andy McCarthy wrote a brilliant piece on this whole birth certificate controversy at National Review Online. Really, he says, it’s not about the birth certificate.

    It’s about Obama’s honesty. He hasn’t released his law school records, his law review records, his Columbia records, his university records. He hasn’t released a lot of things. This thing could easily be shut down if Obama would just release the birth certificate.

    You remember the Drive-By Media and the Dan Rather business? Dan Rather, faked documents. Mary Mapes and Dan Rather faked documents to show that Bush skipped out of National Guard service, and they ended up giving Daniel Rather an award!

    They circled the wagons. Peter Jennings and Brokaw, they gave him an award for great work. They circled the wagons.

    They made it up, and now, “This is just a bunch of kooks. The birthers are just a bunch of kooks” and so forth, and everybody being told to avoid them and so forth. Obama could shut it down.

    There has to be some reason he doesn’t want people to see that birth certificate. Maybe it’s dual citizenship, who knows. But, as McCarthy points out: The birth certificate is not the point here.

    The point is we have a president of the United States who will not tell us who he is. He spends 20 years in an insane pastor’s church who practices black liberation theology, which is basically African socialism, and says he didn’t hear what I said.

    We have a president who doesn’t want people to know him.

    We have a president who wants people to know only the public vision or version that we get when he goes out and makes these speeches with the god reverb and echo behind him.

  146. rosettasister Says:

    BOB Chapman has left the usa_he said he feared for his life on coast to coast

    http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message853768/pg1

  147. j.b. Says:

    Thanks for posting that, Rose. I heard that real time the other day and it is good to read it “again”.I finally read Andy M’s article last night. It is compelling. I do not agree that it isn’t about the BC (as I have stated before but am willing to set it aside for now, well UNTIL TODAY!) but he does a good job of pointing out who or what Barry isn’t.

    Can someone tell me WHY Hillary would cover for this Slimeball?
    Or is it that she found out AFTER the primaries?

  148. rosettasister Says:

    Bob Chapman On Gold, Silver, A Bank Holiday And The Monetary Elite

    http://www.rightsidenews.com/200908025787/editorial/bob-chapman-on-gold-silver-a-bank-holiday-and-the-monetary-elite.html

  149. Troy Says:

    Can someone tell me WHY Hillary would cover for this Slimeball?
    Or is it that she found out AFTER the primaries?
    *****************************************************
    There is only one logical explanation…The Obama camp has some major dirt on her.

  150. rosettasister Says:

    As far as Hill and Bill

    It was a terrible failure on their part.

    At least that’s how I felt at the time.

  151. j.b. Says:

    rosettasister Says:

    August 2, 2009 at 11:53 pm
    BOB Chapman has left the usa_he said he feared for his life on coast to coast

    http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message853768/pg1

    WHAT? You know, when I came here this morning, I was about to tell you guys about a guy I heard last night on Coast To Coast(Bob Chapman). I was very impressed with his honesty and manner. I also could not help but feel like I was talking to my blog friends here. I mean each caller sounded like one of us! I took notes!
    But when I got here and saw Troy’s post about the BC I forgot. Now you say he is running for his life? WTF!? Goin’ to read………….

    I wonder if Ten knows about all this?

  152. j.b. Says:

    Okay, so Bob Had already left. I misunderstood and thought he fled last night! doh. Well, if he is in Costa Rica(he did happen to mention it as one place to reside to ride out the storm), I bet he’s enjoying himself. I was fortunate to have spent some time there a few years ago and it is one bee-yoo-tee-ful place!

  153. Troy Says:

    WOW!!!!….Have a look at this!!!

  154. j.b. Says:

    AFI? UGH. This so does not need to be attached, in any way shape or form, to the Pumpkin Head!

  155. j.b. Says:

    Wait. API. AFI. Are they the same? I’m cornfused.

  156. Troy Says:

    It said API, yes the pumpkin head…But what about the IMAM, remember?

  157. Troy Says:

    I would like to know who is behind that video.

  158. rosettasister Says:

    Maybe this “NOLINKNEWS” just pulled up an old API story in their research.

  159. rosettasister Says:

    The Harry Schultz Letter: a ‘bank holiday’

    http://www.thementalmilitia.com/forums/index.php?PHPSESSID=a262c651c31ffb6f816dff51600d41e8&topic=22881.0

  160. igaveup Says:

    rose,

    why does bob chapman fear for his life? i didn’t listen last night.

  161. igaveup Says:

    Troy said: *****************************************************
    There is only one logical explanation…The Obama camp has some major dirt on her.

    I agree that’s why she was neutered, effectively and quickly. They all jumped ship over to the SS OBAMA.

  162. j.b. Says:

    Troy Says:

    August 3, 2009 at 12:22 am
    I would like to know who is behind that video.

    I dunno, but I like the way “he” said O-bamma.

    Remind me of the Imam, please.

  163. j.b. Says:

    I listened to most of the program last night and did not hear Bob mention that. I assume he is being threatened for telling tales outta school, per se.

  164. rosettasister Says:

    igaveup Says:
    August 3, 2009 at 12:37 am

    rose,

    why does bob chapman fear for his life? i didn’t listen last night.

    ***

    sorry, igaveup, I didn’t hear that part.

    to be honest, I’m not too familiar with him.

    I wonder if he shares Harry Schultz’s belief in a 50 — 50 chance for an imminent bank holiday.

    Sorry, I’m not much help on this one.

  165. rosettasister Says:

    Geez Louise! Well no one is right 100% of the time. Not even me! hehe

    http://www.eaglesdisobey.net/

    Eagles Disobey has been informed that a declared supporter of Dr. Dan Burisch’s true testimony, alias “Henry Deacon”, has recently taken the stage with PC in Amsterdam, and declared that he has personally been ON Mars – not imaginary travel, orbiter/lander image analysis, Remote Viewing, Shamanic or Astral Travel – but physically been ON Mars!

    Goodness, grief! Serpo, anyone?

    For the record, Dr. Dan Burisch makes no such claims, Dan’s claims are based in REALITY, and so he cannot verify one bit of such a tale about any alleged trip to Mars!

    This recent “event” underscores Eagles Disobey’s suspicions that the recent biased, and socially irresponsible, anti-vaccine political activism by PC, a group which once declared its ONLY intent was to give a voice to whistleblowers, has now gone over the edge from a once respected archive to one of dubious credibility and highly questionable and suspect intent.

    Are they falling to some need for greater interest, or it it merely ‘a self publicized house divided against itself, not standing?’

    Matters not, from our perspective, as Eagles Disobey works for YOU, those we call “We The People” and will not break that faith with you for any reason!

    (There has to be a better way.)

    To rationalize — to ascribe (one’s acts, opinions, etc.) to causes that superficially seem reasonable and valid but that actually are unrelated to the true, possibly unconscious and often less creditable or agreeable causes.

  166. KoolAid_Free_Lexi Says:

    Can someone tell me WHY Hillary would cover for this Slimeball?
    Or is it that she found out AFTER the primaries?

    ******
    No offense, jb, but imho, …. it’s because she’s a slimeball too. She’s doing her job for the illumni, so why would she expose him? So that she could have been the puppet, I guess? It’s really all the same “pocket”, all the same “reward”, all the same “goals” imho. She wouldn’t want to do something that might jeopardize her usefulness. She knows what happens.

    WB slider, ltns

  167. rosettasister Says:

    NASA STS-88 black transforming UFO

  168. igaveup Says:

    thanks rose, sometimes ian puts me to sleep. i was sleepless last night so i should have listened.

    i miss art bell.

    did his wife get her visa yet? she’s probably more vetted than barry.

  169. igaveup Says:

    wow only 109 in chandler!

  170. igaveup Says:

    The Scammer up to it again.

    Ha. We need some comic relief. Troy, don’t make me do the jar.

    Obama is doing well now in the White House. The question, therefore, is whether it is right to open up wounds by proving Obama’s citizenship, a thing that may highten temperatures in the US. May be the Americans should accept the President and wait until his term is over.

    By Chief editor Korir/ API

  171. j.b. Says:

    KoolAid_Free_Lexi Says:

    August 3, 2009 at 12:49 am
    Can someone tell me WHY Hillary would cover for this Slimeball?
    Or is it that she found out AFTER the primaries?

    ******
    No offense, jb, but imho, …. it’s because she’s a slimeball too. She’s doing her job for the illumni, so why would she expose him? So that she could have been the puppet, I guess? It’s really all the same “pocket”, all the same “reward”, all the same “goals” imho. She wouldn’t want to do something that might jeopardize her usefulness. She knows what happens
    WB slider, ltns.

    Tenacity! Is that you? J/K, good point, Lexi.

  172. goferit Says:

    Rose,
    How can I upload an image of the seal on the KBC?

    I did a little work on it to see if any of the words could be made out as per Troy’s suggestion. One thing for sure is it is not added after the fact. One problem with this image is that it is saved at a screen resolution of 72 dpi.The anomalies around the type and the lines are definitely due to jpeg compression from multiple lower jpeg saves. Each one throws out more information. Sssoooo, how do we upload images that are not saved to a specific web address. (just on my system)

  173. j.b. Says:

    Obama is doing well now in the White House. The question, therefore, is whether it is right to open up wounds by proving Obama’s citizenship, a thing that may highten temperatures in the US. May be the Americans should accept the President and wait until his term is over.

    By Chief editor Korir/ API

    Yeah, and maybe he should blow Barry before jumping off a cliff!
    Oh, my, did I just say that out loud?

  174. sdee Says:

    More exposed on the history Dr. Emanual’s euthanasia and eugenics plan in the Healthcare Nationalization Act.

  175. rosettasister Says:

    I’ll email you, goferit

    rose

  176. KoolAid_Free_Lexi Says:

    j.b. Says:
    August 3, 2009 at 1:10 am

    Yeah, and maybe he should blow Barry before jumping off a cliff!
    Oh, my, did I just say that out loud?
    *****
    ROFLOL!

    Yes you did and it’s a hoot!

    I think you’re onto something there! Maybe he should WHILE they’re both jumping off a cliff. I mean, otherwise, BO’s been there, done that, not as exciting anymore.

  177. j.b. Says:

    When i clicked on this this afternoon there were 15,000 + views. Now lookit how many. 🙂

  178. Troy Says:

    goferit,
    I have the KBC in a pdf…I can email it to Rose, who can then forward it to you…I worked with it a bit and couldn’t do any good with the seal, but I’m no good at that kind of stuff.

  179. igaveup Says:

    goferit Says: KBC

    i couldn’t do anything with it except blow it up so i can’t read squat.

    wonder if we finally blow it up it says notarized by sammy k, chief editor?

  180. igaveup Says:

    I see something that looks like a moon crater. could this be the proof that we actually went to the moon in 1964? 😉

  181. sliderblaze Says:

    sorry i havent been able to post here lately, been working in kentucky

  182. j.b. Says:

    http://larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com/
    This makes me sad. He is obviously exhausted. I hope he can move on and find some peace and balance. I know, I really appreciate ALL HE DID to expose Barry. No pun intended. Okay, that was a lie.

    THANK YOU, LARRY!

  183. Troy Says:

    Rose, please check your email and forward to goferit…Thanks

  184. rosettasister Says:

    You got it, Troy!

  185. j.b. Says:

    sliderblaze Says:

    August 3, 2009 at 1:29 am
    sorry i havent been able to post here lately, been working in kentucky

    We miss you buddy! What you doin’ in Kentucky? That’s a bit of a jaunt from PA!

  186. rosettasister Says:

    This is image Troy was discussing.

    You have to download and open to get a good look.

    http://www.4shared.com/file/122507995/75477f44/obama_Kenya_BC1.html

  187. rosettasister Says:

    Larry Sinclair

    “But I will not blog anymore. I am tired, I need to get out and get some sun and I need to enjoy life.”

    Yeah, that’s what I’m talkin’ about, Larry!

  188. goferit Says:

    jb for stating the unmentionable name you now owe multiple quarters to the coffee jug!!

    Toy, send Rose the original of what you have in pdf or whichever format you have it in I’ll see what works best. I’m no Polarik, but I did work digitally in photo for years before I began my second career.
    Thanks

  189. rosettasister Says:

    goferit

    I emailed the image to you

    it’s a pdf file

  190. goferit Says:

    Toy, Troy lol

    I got it from Rose, thanks.

    Rose I’ll work on this one a bit and resend to you,
    Thanks.

  191. rosettasister Says:

    okay, that’s what I call teamwork

  192. Troy Says:

    Wooo hoooo….I’m anxious to know what it says on that seal….I hope it doesn’t say, “Ha ha ha”

  193. rosettasister Says:

    SHOCK UNCOVERED: Obama IN HIS OWN WORDS saying His Health Care Plan will ELIMINATE private insurance

  194. ryansgrammy Says:

    Just catching up on the blog and I was so tickled to follow Troy’s link to Orlys site and see that beautiful picture posted of the BC!!!!!! An early birthday present for the prezzzzz. 😀

  195. rosettasister Says:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2306351/posts?page=4121#4121

    To: autumnraine; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; AZ .44 MAG; azishot; BIGLOOK; BonRad; Brown Deer; Candor7; …

    Sorry I have not responded sooner, but in addition to working on my updated report, I’ve been involved in a really huge mailing list of people following who have been researching a number of leads.

    However, the bottom line is that it’s another BOGUS BIRTH DOCUMENT.

    It’s not a birth certificate at all.

    Here are a few findings by the members of the group and from other contacts:

    I am amazed at the cluelessness of many people in this forum about the above obvious fake document. For instance: Kenya didn’t become a republic until December 1964; E.F Lavender is a common detergent in Kenya & the certificate# 44 0 47 is laughable: 47 = he’s the 44th US President, O = Obama & 47 = his age. Are all these coincidental you lunatics.

    Above all, Kenya is one of the most corrupt nations in the world & any body can obtain a forged document in minutes. The person who made this document was a person who wanted to make some few quick & easy dollars from brain-dead birther lunatics.

    Rallying around such blatant forgeries only helps to discredit ‘birther’ lunatics. BTW, thanks for giving unemployed Kenyan guys more $$$ to continue feeding you guys with blatant forgeries! Grow up guys!

    And this:

    In 1961, hospitals in Kenya did issue birth certificates. Starting in 1964,so did the Ministry of Home Affairs, the Civil Registration Department, the National Registration Bureau, Immigration Department, Registrar General, National Social Security Fund, and the National Hospital Insurance Fund.

    The document below purports to be a GOVERNMENTAL birth registry from 1961. It most definitely is not. It is a fake and a poor one at that, starting with the wrong title of the document; the wrong official name of the country; wrong name of the province, etc..

    Consider these 3 historical facts which the forger got dead wrong:

    1. Kenyan official documents did NOT bear the name “REPUBLIC of Kenya” until 1964, if only because the Republic of Kenya was proclaimed in December
    1963.

    2. In 1961, Mombassa was in ZANZIBAR, not in Kenya.

    3. In 1961, the hospital was called “Coast PROVINCIAL General Hospital”.

    And this:

    An intelligence contact with Israeli connections says this: “We checked all the hospitals in Kenya, starting in early 2008. There is no such birth certificate. This is another fake. It is also a very bad fake, by the way, very amateurish, as anyone who has seen the real items would immediately discern.”

    I also found a number of anomalies that shout, “Forgery.” It’s a government document saying the birth happened and that a birth certificate exists — or pretty much like Obama’s bogus Hawaiian COLB.

    I’ll keep you posted on what else we find.

    Back to my report.

    4,121 posted on Sunday, August 02, 2009 7:26:57 PM by Polarik

  196. Troy Says:

    I think everyone will enjoy this!!!

  197. goferit Says:

    Rose,
    Check your email.

  198. rosettasister Says:

    Okay, goferit.

  199. rosettasister Says:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2306351/posts?page=3932#3932

    To: SaraJohnson

    “Where do you think the document Orly has came from?”
    According to Lame Cherry, the law firm that handled the divorce back in 64.

    3,932 posted on Sunday, August 02, 2009 6:15:05 PM by autumnraine

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2306351/posts?page=4144#4144

    To: autumnraine

    Who is Lame Cherry?

    4,144 posted on Sunday, August 02, 2009 7:38:38 PM by SaraJohnson

  200. Troy Says:

    I think Polarik may be jumping to some early conclusions…We’ll see….He kept harping on the date of 1961, but this doc was created in 1964 which debunks his assertions….One more thing, I’ve been reading Polarik’s comments for over a year now and this does not even sound like language that Polarik would use….I can’t imagine Polarik referring to his fellow “Freepers” as lunatics…I was also doubtful that it was the real Phil Berg posting earlier also….It’s possible that we have Obot imposters….We shall see.

  201. rosettasister Says:

    From goferit:

    As I stated earlier, this was a 72 dpi file from all locations, (as it would be on the web). Now if Joe Farah or Orly has a higher resolution image, people like Polarik and me, (not that I’m in his league), would be all over this. I worked on it several ways looking to bring out the edges. I say it is the same emblem for Coast province that is at the top of the page. I will let everyone else decide at this point. If anyone finds a higher resolution image, send it my way and we’ll try it again.

    http://www.4shared.com/file/122518527/14a40721/KBC1.html

    http://www.4shared.com/file/122518533/ad2f279/KBC2.html

    http://www.4shared.com/file/122518538/9d002bf1/KBC3.html

    http://www.4shared.com/file/122518543/459364be/KBC4.html

  202. Troy Says:

    Thanks goferit!

  203. rosettasister Says:

    Is this the same seal?

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2306351/posts?page=4112#4112

  204. goferit Says:

    You are all welcome,
    Fake or not, let’s hope not, I think the middle of the seal is made up of the same seal in the emblem at the top of the page. If any one hears or receives a full size (300 dpi ) file send it my way via Rose.

  205. Troy Says:

    It is definitely not the same image as what is at the top of the page.

  206. rosettasister Says:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2306351/posts?page=4198#4198

    To: CanaGuy

    An anonymous person in fear for their life got it to Orly Taitz. Where it came from and why it ws ordered have been speculated at length, but their is no verifiable chain of custody since it was issued. Best bet is to check the book and page it identifies for the original record. That is what the motion is about, to authenticate it (or not).

    4,198 posted on Sunday, August 02, 2009 7:57:30 PM by rolling_stone

  207. goferit Says:

    Troy,
    What do you think it looks like?

  208. ryansgrammy Says:

    I just ordered Larry’s book so I’m looking forward to its arrival (do you think it will arrive in a plain brown wrapper) 😀
    I hope he’s able to relax and enjoy life a little after all that he has been through.

  209. Troy Says:

    I still can’t make it out, but it doesn’t look, to me, like it is the same as top of page….Do I need to rotate it or anything to view it differently?

  210. Troy Says:

    grammy, I have a copy of larry’s book on my kitchen table as we speak and yes, It did come in plain brown wrapping…LOL…I’m not kidding.

  211. goferit Says:

    Troy,
    I don’t see the lions on the side, but the crest can be seen along with the stick or spears going up at a 45 degree angle. But I could just be ‘seein’ what I want to see…. LOL

  212. KoolAid_Free_Lexi Says:

    Troy Says:
    August 3, 2009 at 2:46 am
    I can’t imagine Polarik referring to his fellow “Freepers” as lunatics…I was also doubtful that it was the real Phil Berg posting earlier also
    *****

    I’m in agreement w/ you, Troy. His comments…Both those and the creation yr of the doc too struck me a little funny too. Quite taken aback by the “lunatic” comment.

    RP knows folks are looking for answers and I can’t remember a time he was ever rude to anyone w/ true inquisitive questions. Yeah, he’s dissed trolls, but hey…..they’re trolls!

  213. rosettasister Says:

    We watched this film in a 6th grade Religion class (Catholic). It was just racy enough to be very compelling for them.

    Deborah Kerr in The Chalk Garden (1964)

  214. rosettasister Says:

    More Chalk Garden:

    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=videos&search_query=sweetcamera+chalk+garden&search_sort=video_date_uploaded_reverse&search_filter=0

  215. ryansgrammy Says:

    There’s a comment on FR where someone has actually found E Lavendar (Eric Lavendar)
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306755/posts?page=319#338

  216. ddlew Says:

    This is a copy that was issued in 1964. That is why it references “Republic” and a different name of the hospital. It was signed, as an official copy, on February 17, 1964.

    From WND article:
    No doctor is listed. But the alleged certificate bears the signature of the deputy registrar of Coast Province, Joshua Simon Oduya. It was allegedly issued as a certified copy of the original in February 1964.

  217. Bones Says:

    Mandatory civil service?!

  218. j.b. Says:

    https://twitter.com/glennbeck
    Just wanted to share a bit from Glenn Beck.

  219. sdee Says:

    Krauthammer over-analyzes. The comments below are from Pat Dollard.

    The time for bipartisan games is long gone. Call and write your Senator and Representative – give ’em hell.

    Nothing should be passed – NOTHING!

    Healthcare bill is our poison pill.

    ************************

    Krauthammer’s thesis is that Congressional and Senate Dems will vote for this version of Obamacare because they must in order to save the political life of their leader. But will they do so if they truly believe that such a vote will cost them their own political future? If Krauthammer is right in terms of assessing the average Congressional and Senate Dems frame of mind, then it is abundantly clear what our message to them must be: a vote to save Obama’s political life is a vote of suicide for your own. Do you really want to save the One at the cost of your own demise? Every one of these elected officials must be made to realize that if they vote for Obamacare, then the most organized and ruthless political effort in the history of their district will be waged against them come re-election time.””

    http://patdollard.com/2009/08/krauthammer-reforming-the-health-care-system-is-dead/

  220. sdee Says:

    Guess whose not givin’ up a piece of her pie?

    Salaries for Michelle Obama’s staff of 20+ running us a cool $1.2 Million.

    1. $172,2000 – Sher, Susan (CHIEF OF STAFF)
    2. $140,000 – Frye, Jocelyn C. (DEPUTY ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT AND DIRECTOR OF POLICY AND PROJECTS FOR THE FIRST LADY)
    3. $113,000 – Rogers, Desiree G. (SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT AND WHITE HOUSE SOCIAL SECRETARY)
    4. $102,000 – Johnston, Camille Y. (SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT AND DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS FOR THE FIRST LADY)
    5. Winter, Melissa E. (SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT AND DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF TO THE FIRST LADY)
    6. $90,000 – Medina, David S. (DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF TO THE FIRST LADY)
    7. $84,000 – Lelyveld, Catherine M. (DIRECTOR AND PRESS SECRETARY TO THE FIRST LADY)
    8. $75,000 – Starkey, Frances M. (DIRECTOR OF SCHEDULING AND ADVANCE FOR THE FIRST LADY)
    9. $70,000 – Sanders, Trooper (DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF POLICY AND PROJECTS FOR THE FIRST LADY)
    10. $65,000 – Burnough, Erinn J. (DEPUTY DIRECTOR AND DEPUTY SOCIAL SECRETARY)
    11. Reinstein, Joseph B. (DEPUTY DIRECTOR AND DEPUTY SOCIAL SECRETARY)
    12. $62,000 – Goodman, Jennifer R. (DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF SCHEDULING AND EVENTS COORDINATOR FOR THE FIRST LADY)
    13. $60,000 – Fitts, Alan O. (DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF ADVANCE AND TRIP DIRECTOR FOR THE FIRST LADY)
    14. Lewis, Dana M. (SPECIAL ASSISTANT AND PERSONAL AIDE TO THE FIRST LADY)
    15. $52,500 – Mustaphi, Semonti M. (ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR AND DEPUTY PRESS SECRETARY TO THE FIRST LADY)
    16. $50,000 – Jarvis, Kristen E. (SPECIAL ASSISTANT FOR SCHEDULING AND TRAVELING AIDE TO THE FIRST LADY)
    17. $45,000 – Lechtenberg, Tyler A. (ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR OF CORRESPONDENCE FOR THE FIRST LADY)
    18. Tubman, Samantha (DEPUTY ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR,SOCIAL OFFICE)
    19. $40,000 – Boswell, Joseph J. (EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF TO THE FIRST LADY)
    20. $36,000 – Armbruster, Sally M. (STAFF ASSISTANT TO THE SOCIAL SECRETARY)
    21. Bookey, Natalie (STAFF ASSISTANT)
    22. Jackson, Deilia A. (DEPUTY ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR OF CORRESPONDENCE FOR THE FIRST LADY)

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12652

  221. jrinNC Says:

    Found this little tidbit on consular services concerning births. Now keep in mind this is when Kenya declared its independence from British rule.

    “A person born outside Kenya after 11th December 1963 shall become a citizen of Kenya at the date of his / her birth if at that date his / her father is a citizen of Kenya”

    Does this go hand in hand with the British nationality act???? (I think it does to a point – but again that act has the UNLESS statement)

    Too bad he wasn’t born after 11 December 1963 because there would be no question period.

    Just thought this was interesting but it doesn’t have any impact on the situation at hand. Isn’t it amazing how everyone is digging into this stuff and learning about things we thought we would never have to address….

  222. jrinNC Says:

    Morning Sdee

  223. sdee Says:

    The self deluded narcissits we call Congress is now congratulating themselves on a job well. done

    We have to get rid of these idiots.

    “”Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) defended his leadership of the Senate since the beginning of this year as one of the most productive spans of legislative work since the Great Depression.

    Reid wrote. “It’s true — we have passed more serious, substantive laws than any Congress since President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s first term.””

    Did it occur to anyone that WE DON’T NEED ANY MORE FRCKIN LAWS!

    http://briefingroom.thehill.com/2009/08/02/reid-senate-this-year-most-productive-since-fdr/

  224. sdee Says:

    mornin JR – nice warm day in NC 🙂

  225. ryansgrammy Says:

    sdee –Jocelyn Frye graduated from Harvard with obammi in 1991

    http://news.muckety.com/2009/03/11/law-school-friendship-brings-jocelyn-frye-to-the-white-house/12911

  226. sdee Says:

    ryansgrammy Says:
    August 3, 2009 at 12:41 pm
    Jocelyn Frye graduated from Harvard with obammi in 1991
    *****************************
    A Cabal, the Chicago way grammy. There is one slithering from every rock overturned.

  227. sdee Says:

    Drudge has the Obama Joker poster up now! 😀

    And the video of Bo explaining how his healthcare plan will eliminate private insurance!

  228. jrinNC Says:

    Obama officials: Taxes may rise to pay health care
    By PHILIP ELLIOTT Associated Press Writer The Associated Press
    Monday, August 3, 2009 4:01 AM EDT

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Two of President Barack Obama’s economic heavyweights said middle-class taxes might have to go up to pare budget deficits or to pay for the proposed overhaul of the nation’s health care system.

    *********************************************
    Obama needs to be sued with a class action law suit for lying to the American people about all this tax stuff. To me that was the biggest thing during his campaign that suckered people into electing him – no increase in taxes.

  229. jrinNC Says:

    well gotta go for awhile – have a good day folks.

  230. sdee Says:

    jrinNC Says:
    Obama needs to be sued with a class action law suit for lying to the American people about all this tax stuff. To me that was the biggest thing during his campaign that suckered people into electing him – no increase in taxes.
    ****************************

    I noticed this comment on one of the Obama Joker poster stories.

    “”August 3, 2009 – 7:23 AM by Anonymous

    and now buyers remorse sets in…

    honestly, if you vote like peasants you deserve to be treated like peasants…americans deserve to suffer under a socialist master.””

  231. ryansgrammy Says:

    sdee — You’re not kidding!!!! Gee Laura Bush only needed a couple of people to do her bidding — not an army. Many of these people probably spend their days on MO’s favorite project — growing her national youth corps or whatever its called. See where her former CoS (Jackie Norris) went to do just that — just look at all of those smiling libs in the photo at the link below. She (Norris) is continuing to help MO with her “Serve America Act” == have to check that out later (got company coming so I have to get moving).

    http://www.nationalservice.gov/

  232. sdee Says:

    ok grammy, the picture of all the grinning jackals was just too much to take this early in the morning
    🙂

  233. sdee Says:

    well gotta go – I’ll tune back in 2nite

  234. ryansgrammy Says:

    Okay so I did a little housework and just happened to walk past the computer — Rose and the gang are addictive. Found this interesting post at FR

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2307054/posts

  235. Troy Says:

    From Citizen Wells blog
    *******************
    World Net Daily has reported something that I was certain was the truth. In the quagmire of reporting by the MSM and on the internet and the well crafted half truths straight out of “1984″, no official from the Hawaii Department of Health ever stated that they issued the COLB displayed by the Obama camp. From the WND article dated August 2, 2009, by Jerome R. Corsi.

    “In response to a direct question from WND, the Hawaii Department of Health refused to authenticate either of the two versions of President Obama’s short-form Certificate of Live Birth, or COLB, posted online – neither the image produced by the Obama campaign nor the images released by FactCheck.org.

    Janice Okubu, the public information officer for the Hawaii DOH, also had no explanation for why Dr. Chiyome Fukino’s initial press release last October and subsequent press release last week also avoided declaring the posted images to be of authentic documents.

    In June 2008, Ben LaBolt, an Obama campaign spokesman, released the initial short-form Obama COLB to various newspapers including the Los Angeles Times declaring, “This is Sen. Obama’s birth certificate.”

    This short-form Obama COLB was released as a .jpg Internet image, displaying no signs of having been folded or of carrying an official State of Hawaii embossed seal.”

    Read more:

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105817

  236. Troy Says:

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/august_2009/confidence_in_u_s_health_care_system_has_grown_in_recent_months

  237. Troy Says:

  238. Troy Says:

  239. Katie Says:

    Anyone find it – interesting – that obama’s approval rating in the Rasmussen daily tracking poll has increased 6 points in the last few days?

    Kind of like how the market is going up during the worst economic news in decades?

    I don’t believe either of them AREN’T being manipulated.

  240. Troy Says:

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

  241. rosettasister Says:

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/obama_approval_index_history

    1Date
    2Presidential Approval Index
    3Strongly Approve
    4Strongly Disapprove
    5Total Approve
    6Total Disapprove

    1 08/03/2009
    2 -6
    3 30%
    4 36%
    5 51%
    6 48%

    Total disapproval at 48%.

    Rose’s spot-on analysis. hehe

    I’m guessing total disapproval will tic up again after Senate and House return from recess.

    Right now the folks are breathing a huge sigh of relief because they know Congress can’t fuck things up when they’re not in DC.

    I have a great idea! Let’s keep our legislators in our home states where they can do no harm!

  242. rosettasister Says:

    TV Ad Targets Lou Dobbs, CNN on Obama Birth Certificate “Issue”

    http://www.usnews.com/blogs/robert-schlesinger/2009/08/03/tv-ad-targets-lou-dobbs-cnn-on-obama-birth-certificate-issue.html

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2307164/posts?page=1#1

    I’m sure Lou is shaking in his boots from the attacks by the pansies at MM. (Media Matters)

    1 posted on Monday, August 03, 2009 9:32:48 AM by pissant

    Remember this pic:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2307164/posts?page=7#7

  243. rosettasister Says:

    Both Of These “Birth Certificates” Could Be Real

    http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2009/08/02/both-of-these-birth-certificates-could-be-real/

    Regardless, I still maintain that Barry got a new Hawaiian Birth Certificate in the name Soetoro when he was adopted by step-dad Lolo from Indonesia, and if there was an original one in the name Obama, that would have been sealed per state law.

    We were first to publish that theory in The Paper Trail: Obama’s Indonesian Background.

    http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/the-paper-trail-obamas-indonesian-background/

  244. rosettasister Says:

    Obama Kenyan birthcert copy was issued in 1964 when Kenya was already Republic

    http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=2776

    Update

    1. WND was able to obtain other birth certificates from Kenya for purposes of comparison, and the form of the documents appear to be identical.

    2. I just come from the phone with an Kenyan Embassy in Europe (for tactical reasons I don’t disclose which one) according to them Kenya reffered during the period Dec 1968 and Dec 1969 to itself as the Republic of Kenya even though formally the republic was founded on 11 Dec. 1969.

    So it pretty much seems the problem is solved.

    David Crockett

    [End Update]

  245. rosettasister Says:

    Chuck Norris: Release the Birth Certificate!

    http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=2778

  246. Troy Says:

    http://www.tampabay.com/news/localgovernment/article1024279.ece

  247. rosettasister Says:

    Not everyone has given up on the Orly document

    ***

    BREAKING NEWS – ORLY TAITZ LANDING IN THE U.K. ON MONDAY MORNING TO AUTHENTICATE COPY OF BIRTH CERTIFICATE

    http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/08/breaking-news-orly-taitz-landing-in-uk.html

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306896/posts?page=32#32

    To: conservativefromGa

    Possibly but they could authenticate and validate the copy that Orly has, which if it is truly a certified copy, then Obambi is toast as the copy becomes a valid replacement for the original. And she will not need an original BD which would have been locally retained in Kenya.

    They may also have the old ledgers, which contain the births and deaths in their archives, so the BC copy, which references a number in the Ledgers, would be clearly a real document.

    Again, they may not be able to find something from so far back and from a “colony” but she may discover other things too.

    Go for it Orly! And as everyonehere says and prays, be safe.

    32 posted on Monday, August 03, 2009 1:00:15 AM by FARS

  248. ryansgrammy Says:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2306640/posts

    So it appears that the timing of the Feb 1964 copy of his Kenyan BC coincides nicely with the obama/dunham divorce which was finalized in March 1964. hmmmmmmmm

  249. rosettasister Says:

    Final hours! Tell off Obama on ‘birthday’

    FedEx personalized letter demanding he prove eligibility

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105225

  250. rosettasister Says:

    Not the last word on Obama’s birth

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105769

    This is the nature of an open society – one that encourages free-wheeling debate and public scrutiny of public affairs.

    It’s worth reminding the world that Sen. John McCain, the Republican nominee for the presidency, faced a Senate inquiry over his own eligibility issue. His colleagues found he was constitutionally qualified because he had two parents who were U.S. citizens. Barack Obama didn’t. If – and it’s admittedly a big if – he wasn’t born in Hawaii as he claims and as that deeply flawed evidentiary document suggests, then he is not, by the standards applied to McCain, a legitimate president.

    I know that’s a scary thought for many Americans. But, as long as that possibility exists, this public concern, this skepticism, this distrust is going to linger and grow. That is not healthy for our country.

    I believe most “birthers” only want to know the truth about their president. They want to be sure the Constitution is upheld and honored. Why are those such annoying and antagonizing objectives for so many in the media? I read supposedly objective news accounts claiming that “birthers” insist Obama was born in Kenya. I don’t know anyone who insists Obama was born in Kenya. But I do believe that many, if not most, Americans are now uncertain he was born in Hawaii. They are uncertain he is legally, morally and constitutionally qualified for the most important job in the United States.

    It’s time to remove the uncertainty. It’s time to lift the cloud of doubt. It’s time to stop the stonewalling. It’s time to release the real birth certificate.

  251. Troy Says:

    So far, I haven’t seen or heard one single valid arguement to cause me to discount the KBC…Every single gripe that I have heard is easily argueable….The Freepers are always so damn afraid of being made to look like fools or to be duped that they almost always automatically take an “I don’t believe it” attitude….It’s this same damn wimpified fear of looking like a fool that has caused the majority of the MSM not to report on the BC issue…It might real and it might not be…Time will tell, but the Freepers are a bunch wimps and are going out of their way to disprove rather than just wait and see….Personally I don’t give a rat’s ass what anyone thinks of me….I’m just electronic text on a computer screen…Grow some balls Freepers and give things a chance before you start crapping all over them.

  252. rosettasister Says:

    “Grow some balls Freepers!”

    Geez, Troy!

    It never occurred to me that they might need some more testosterone over there!

  253. rosettasister Says:

    God Be With Our German Allies

    German Forces Launch Offensive in Northern Afghanistan

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/07/german_forces_launch_offensive.asp

  254. rosettasister Says:

    AP ENTERPRISE: Biggest revenue drop since 1932

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/08/03/national/w092208D68.DTL&tsp=1

    (Yes, exactly. Obama can point his finger all he wants at W, but fact is that W was running sustainable deficits because revenues were higher. At least until FY 2009. Obama’s deficits are UNSUSTAINABLE forever!)

  255. rosettasister Says:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306351/posts?page=5321#5321

    To: PA Engineer

    Depending on the timing, she might not have known that her husband would not contest the divorce and default. Even if she knew who he was in default, she could not know whether he would attempt to reopen either before or after final judgment. If there was a chance that he might intervene in the litigation, she ran the risk that Barack Obama Senior would expose her birth certificate fraud in Hawaii. So, even if Obama’s mother had already obtained a fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate for Barack Obama, she may have concluded it was too risky to use in the divorce case.

    She was evidently avoiding her husband and the relationship that must’ve thoroughly broken down by the time of the divorce proceeding and it is likely that she would be insecure about trusting him, not knowing whether he would be offended that Barack’s Hawaiian citizenship was being used instead of his Kenyan citizenship. She simply could not rely on his silence.

    Alternatively, she might not have secured the fraudulent Hawaiian birth certificate until after the divorce case because she was simply unaware of how easy the procedure might be and only learned from her attorney as another Freeper has suggested.

    Of course it is also possible that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and that the Kenyan certificate is a counterfeit. It is also possible that no birth certificate was needed or used in the Hawaii divorce case at all.

    5,321 posted on Monday, August 03, 2009 10:10:16 AM by nathanbedford

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306351/posts?page=5330#5330

    To: nathanbedford

    It would sure help to clear things up if the marxist released his vault BC that HI claims to possess.

    5,330 posted on Monday, August 03, 2009 10:18:38 AM by pissant

  256. rosettasister Says:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306351/posts?page=5345#5345

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306351/posts?page=5366#5366

    To: autumnraine

    “And the children of citizens of the United States born beyond sea or out of the limits of the United States shall be considered as Natural Born Citizens. PROVIDED: That the right of citizenship did not descend to persons WHOSE FATHERS HAVE NEVER BEEN RESIDENT IN THE UNITED STATES. “

    Oh yeah, and this would settle the McCain question as well. His father was a US Citizen.

    5,366 posted on Monday, August 03, 2009 10:43:43 AM by autumnraine

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306351/posts?page=5352#5352

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306351/posts?page=5370#5370

    To: CedarDave

    Right, he would be a CITIZEN. Natural born? No.

    5,370 posted on Monday, August 03, 2009 10:46:34 AM by autumnraine

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306351/posts?page=5373#5373

    To: CedarDave

    Oh, and that law is irrelevent since he was not born to a couple ‘out of wedlock’. Legal documents (divorce decree) show a marraige in Feb of 1961.

    5,373 posted on Monday, August 03, 2009 10:47:24 AM by autumnraine

  257. j.b. Says:

    http://www.therightperspective.org/2009/08/02/obama-mentor-praised-sharon-tate-murder/
    Charming friends ya got there, Barry.

  258. rosettasister Says:

    Oh, j.b., it gets better!

    https://rosettasister.wordpress.com/2008/10/09/%E2%80%98lay-dohrn-lay%E2%80%99-lay-with-your-man-a-while/

  259. rosettasister Says:

    Lou Dobbs Right on Obama Birth Certificate

    http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/dobbs_right_obama_birth/2009/08/03/243134.html

    Among the key documents that Obama continues to shield from the public:

    • Obama released just one brief document detailing his personal health. McCain, on the other hand, released what he said was his complete medical file, totaling more than 1,500 pages.

    • Obama refused to offer his official papers as a state legislator in Illinois. Nor did he produce correspondence, such as his schedules of appointments or letters from lobbyists, from his days in the Illinois state Senate.

    • Obama did not release his client list as an attorney or his billing records. He maintained that he performed only a few hours of legal work for a nonprofit organization with ties to Tony Rezko, the Chicago businessman convicted of fraud in June 2008 but did not release billing records that would prove this assertion.

    • Obama ignored requests for his records from Occidental College, where he studied for two years before transferring to Columbia University.

    • Obama’s campaign refused to give Columbia, where he earned an undergraduate degree in political science, permission to release his transcripts. Former President George W. Bush and presidential contenders Al Gore and John Kerry all released their college transcripts.

    • Obama did not agree to the release of his application to the Illinois State Bar, which would have cleared up intermittent allegations that his application may have been inaccurate.

    • Obama did not release records from his time at Harvard Law School.

    • During the presidential campaign, McCain’s campaign released a full list of all online donors. Obama’s campaign still has not released the names of those who donated at least one-third of the $750 million he raised.

    Ironically, Obama accused the Bush White House of being “one of the most secretive administrations in our history,” and chided then-Sen. Hillary Clinton for not releasing her White House schedules.

  260. rosettasister Says:

    Dobbs Show Presents Challenge for CNN

    http://news.aol.com/article/lou-dobbs-birther-coverage-is-challenge/599964

  261. ryansgrammy Says:

    I was reading a number of the comments on FR about whether or not citizenship passed to BO if he was in fact born in Kenya. Bottom line for me is if Orly proves he was born in Kenya, then he is a liar and a fraud and should be dealt with accordingly — regardless of whether he is deemed a NBC (which I don’t think is possible anyway).

  262. rosettasister Says:

    grammy,

    I still think we’re stuck with Obama for four years.

    Bottom line:

    “Free” press didn’t do their job and they know it and they’re trying to hide that fact.

  263. rosettasister Says:

    Dems vow health bill with or without Republicans

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D99RIIJ01&show_article=1

    Senate Democratic leaders are promising to push through a health care bill even if negotiations with Republicans fail.

    Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., said Monday there are contingency steps that will be considered as a last resort. Among the possible steps is invoking a legislative procedure known as reconciliation.

    Such as step is problematic because of its strict limits on what would be allowed in the bill and what wouldn’t.

    (Schumer knows this and is just blowing hard. So the question remains can Senate pass public “option” with only 50 votes instead of 60? Doubtful, but I sure would like to know for sure.)

    Three Democrats and three Republicans on the Senate Finance Committee face a Sept. 15 deadline to wrap up talks and come up with a plan. Four of five congressional committees have acted on health care legislation.

    Schumer complained that Republicans had been hindering work on a bipartisan health care bill.

  264. j.b. Says:

    rosettasister Says:

    August 3, 2009 at 6:37 pm
    grammy,

    I still think we’re stuck with Obama for four years.

    Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
    *running from room with hands planted over ears…..no, I mean, eyes….*

  265. rosettasister Says:

  266. rosettasister Says:

    Sorry, j.b.

    But I see what I see.

    But I’m not always right, either.

    Who is?!

  267. rosettasister Says:

    The August Debate: Part 1

    http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/blog/g/03f5c1bc-fd4f-4ca3-8961-8fcd837e82bb

    My Washington Examiner column provides a handy list of 10 questions for any Member of Congress you encounter, along with the short answers a truthful representative will give you.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/Hugh-Hewitt/10-August-recess-questions-for-your-congressman-52349282.html

    The momentum is against Obamacare because is it a widely expensive and deeply intrusive attempt to shatter the way Americans get their medical care.

    Most Americans like most the medical care they receive and justifiably think our system the best medical care in the world.

    We don’t want Canada’s system. We don’t want Great Britain’s system.

    And we think there are ways to help the uninsured without burning down the current system.

    I will spend most of this week focused on the seniors and taking calls from them because they hold the key to defeating this attempt to rip up the Medicare deal on which they have depended for so long.

    If you are a doctor that sees a lot of seniors, please send me an e-mail on what you believe will be the consequences to senior citizens if Obamacare passes. hugh@hughhewitt.com

    And everyone, please sign the petition.

    http://www.freeourhealthcarenow.com/form.php

  268. Troy Says:

  269. rosettasister Says:

    Science Czar John Holdren and the Beginning of Your Humanity

    http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2009/08/science_czar_jo.php

  270. rosettasister Says:

    Will GDP pop in the third quarter? If so, will Obama smile?

    http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/2009/08/03/will-gdp-pop-in-the-third-quarter-if-so-will-obama-smile/

    “By the way, during the first quarter of the last 10 economic recoveries, real GDP rose 5.8% on average, with a high of 17.2% during Q1-1950 and a low of 1.4% during Q4-2001.”

    Will the White House then be ready to declare the end of the recession?

    My guess is that rising joblessness will impel them to keep any smiles on hold.

    Also, as long as they can say we are in a “recession,” they can keep talking about how they inherited it from Bush.

    But they will own the recovery for good or ill.

  271. rosettasister Says:

    Why Team Obama thinks your taxes are going up (VAT)

    http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/2009/08/03/why-team-obama-thinks-your-taxes-are-going-up/

    The White House can try and walk back from the comments yesterday by Geithner and Summers, but don’t buy it.

    Pretty much — like 99.9 percent — of center-left economists think Americans don’t pay enough in taxes to support the modestly-large welfare state/military superpower that they seem to prefer.

    And by not enough, I mean $500 billion to $1 trillion a year too little.

    There is no reason to believe Summers, Orszag, Goolsbee, Bernstein and even Obama don’t also believe that.

    The only question is what will be the taxing mechanism.

    All the wonks love a value-added tax. It is efficient and somewhat below the radar.

    That second thing is important since Team Obama is certainly smart enough not to buy into the theory that Americans are ready to pay vastly higher taxes.

    There is nothing in recent polls or election results to imply that.

    Just ask the folks in California.

  272. rosettasister Says:

    Higher growth vs. rising unemployment

    http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/2009/08/03/higher-growth-vs-rising-unemployment/

    Two fun factoids:

    1) During the past two recessions, the unemployment rate kept rising for 15 months (1990-91 downturn) and 19 months (2001 downturn) after the recession officially ended, according to the National Bureau of Economic Research.

    If that happens now, we are looking at rising joblessness right smack into Election Day 2010.

    2) Here are the first two quarters of growth from each of the past three recessions:

    1981-82 (0.3, 5.1)

    1990-91 (2.7, 1.7)

    2001 (1.4, 3.5)

    Bottom line: There is going to be a quarter coming up that Obama can crow about — but it won’t be because of rising unemployment.

  273. rosettasister Says:

    What Ben Bernanke is telling Congress about Ron Paul’s Fed audit plan

    http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/2009/08/03/what-ben-bernanke-is-telling-congress-about-ron-pauls-fed-audit-plan/

    This bit from the WSJ’s interview with John McCain caught my eye:

    “You have no idea the pressure I was under,” he says. “I remember being on the phone with President Bush, Vice President Cheney, the Treasury secretary and [Fed Chairman Ben] Bernanke.

    They assure me the world financial system is going to collapse if I don’t vote for the bill.

    So I do the impetuous and rash thing by saying, look, I have got to go back to Washington and see how I can help.

    And by the way, so did Obama—but it was McCain that was the impetuous one.

    Obama came back to Washington.” Mr. McCain grumbles, “He was at the White House with me.

    But he wasn’t impetuous.”

    ***

    I can tell you that Ben Bernanke is pitching a line to key congressional members in private about Ron Paul’s Fed audit bill that is not too dissimilar to what he told Congress back in the fall of 2008.

    Except back then he was saying failure to pass TARP would kill the economy.

    (Would failure to pass TARP have killed the economy?)

    Today, it is the passage of a bill that would kill the economy, the Fed chairman says.

    (Will passage of Ron Paul’s Fed audit plan kill the economy?)

    (Does this plan even have a chance of passing?)

  274. rosettasister Says:

    Senate Dems have backup plans for healthcare (Gang of Six)

    http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/senate-dems-have-backup-plans-for-healthcare-2009-08-03.html

    The Finance Committee group of Baucus, ranking member Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), Democratic Sens. Jeff Bingaman (N.M.) and Kent Conrad (N.D.) and Republican Sens. Mike Enzi (Wyo.) and Olympia Snowe (Maine) will return to work Monday afternoon and continue negotiating throughout the week.

    Sen. Bob Menendez (D-N.J.) drew a sharp contrast between the Finance Committee Republicans and the Senate GOP leadership, describing Grassley, Enzi and Snowe as “brave Republicans who want to see successful reform” and blaming their leaders for standing in the way.

    “Every time we make a breakthrough, the Republican leadership cracks the whip and disrupts the process,” said Menendez, a Finance Committee member and chairman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.

    Baucus and Grassley have been under pressure from their respective party leaders, which contributed to them giving up hope for an agreement before recess.

    Baucus has needed to show Democrats he is making progress while Grassley and the other Republicans have been feeling heat over giving Democrats political cover on the issue that could define the first year of Obama’s presidency.

    Nevertheless, Menendez said that Senate Democrats acknowledge they may need Republican support to pass a healthcare bill.

    Though Democrats control 60 seats in the Senate, the continued absence of ailing Democratic Sens. Edward Kennedy (Mass.) and Robert Byrd (W.Va.) make it very difficult for the party to make a full show of force. “It’s a challenge to have 60 votes out there at the same time,” Menendez said.

    Moreover, centrist senators who caucus with Democrats such as Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) and Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) are opposed to the public option and cannot be counted on to vote for the bill.

    (Senate Dems can have all the backup plans they want, but that doesn’t mean they’ll be able to get a public “option” through without 60 votes.)

  275. rosettasister Says:

    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/08/schumer-on-co-ops-lets-wait-and-see.php

    Schumer also acknowledged, though, that the public option…might not be so public.

    “I’ve said this time and time again, I don’t care what you call it,” he said.

    “As long as you meet the criteria of being available to every American, being available on the first day and being strong enough so that the option will be able to go up against both the big insurance companies and the big suppliers.”

    That leaves open the possibility that he could support, and Congress might settle upon, a private co-op system as long as it accomplished some of the public option’s key goals.

    (That sounds like a concession to me, and there’s a huge difference between government-run healthcare and a private co-op system.)

  276. rosettasister Says:

    http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23iranelection

  277. rosettasister Says:

    http://twitter.com/shirenar

    in the midle of the night gun shots and fire in several area of vanak

    the green movment is on move to slap the dictator one more time

  278. rosettasister Says:

    http://toxins.rictor.info/

    http://twitter.com/onlymehdi

    Basiji Forces being knocked off their motorcycles as they attack ppl

  279. rosettasister Says:

    Iran – Neda’s mother mourning on her beloved daughter’s grave مادر ندا در سوگ دختر بی گناهش

  280. CJ Says:

    Does anyone stop to think about the fact that this economy is turning around a bit and guess what? They have only released a small amout of the stimulus monies! So if things are turning around on the little bit of money sent out, then how about giving back what’s still in the bank being held up to the taxpayers who provided it? I think that makes perfect sense.

  281. rosettasister Says:

    I’d be happy, CJ, if they’d recall the stimulus and pay down the debt.

    But you’re right, a tax cut would be stimulative.

  282. ryansgrammy Says:

    Rose — did you feel the quakes???? Several quakes Gulf of California.
    http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.html

  283. ryansgrammy Says:

    Rose — I just posted about the quakes in the Gulf of California — they said they were felt in Arizona and my post disappeared. There is a story on Drudge.

  284. rosettasister Says:

    No, I didn’t feel anything.

    Cool map, though!

    http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Maps/10/245_30.php

  285. rosettasister Says:

    Mexico quake shakes some Phoenix offices

    http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2009/08/03/daily8.html

  286. rosettasister Says:

    I do worry about damage to the dams around here.

    I live due south of dam which created Lake Pleasant.

    But all is well as far as I can tell.

  287. Troy Says:

    The little lying ass crooked crap weasle is pooping all over himself.

    http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/reid-slams-artificial-controversy-of-obamas-birthplace-2009-08-03.html

  288. rosettasister Says:

    What a Loser!

    “Reid on Monday tied the (eligibility) issue to healthcare, suggesting the Republican Party is desperate for ways to block the effort.”

    (He’s an idiot for bringing up the issue!)

    (On the Senate floor?!)

    okay, that settles it. I am officially nominating Harry Reid for the RosettaSister What a Maroon! What an Ignoranimus! Award.

  289. rosettasister Says:

    I have to share this story.

    When Reid was doing Daschle’s bidding on the Senate floor, my daughter and I just happened to be watching CSPAN live and Reid was getting all pissy with Ted Stevens of Alaska.

    And Stevens called Reid an ass.

    We looked at each other.

    She said, “Did he just call him an ass?!”

    It was a great moment in the history of these United States.

  290. rosettasister Says:

    The Green Brief #47 (August 2-3)

    http://iran.whyweprotest.net/green-brief/25468-green-brief-47-august-2-3-a.html

  291. rosettasister Says:

  292. rosettasister Says:

    The Current Leader of Japan is a Dumb Fuck Japanese Bastard!

    Japan decides to recognize Ahmadinejad election, will send ambassador to swearing-in ceremony

    http://www.pagef30.com/2009/08/japan-decides-to-recognize-ahmadinejad.html

  293. rosettasister Says:

    From pagef30.com

    Now it’s 7 pm in Iran and there are reports of a few thousand people gathering on Valiasr Avenue, and that Vanak Square is heavily guarded at the moment.

    Just noticed a link here from Twitter in Persian now referencing Fars News, which says that Karroubi is participating in today’s protests too.

    Here’s CNN on the protests so far today.

  294. rosettasister Says:

    Also a quick video here with some of the protests. People sound angry.

  295. Troy Says:

    http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/bighollywood/2009/08/03/obama-as-joker-selective-outrage-from-la-weekly/

  296. rosettasister Says:

    Frau Angela Merkel hat Testikel.

    Señora Angela Merkel tiene cojones.

    Merkel to snub Ahmadinejad on inauguration

    http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/europe/news/article_1493381.php/Merkel_to_snub_Ahmadinejad_on_inauguration_

    http://iranfacts.blogspot.com/

  297. rosettasister Says:

  298. Troy Says:

    Is this Ron Polarik?

    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/?p=3571#comments

  299. rosettasister Says:

    ‘Dr. Ron Polarik,’ Exposed

    http://washingtonindependent.com/53049/dr-ron-polarik-exposed

    ***

    I haven’t the foggiest.

    I can remember when I used to do a Google Blog Search for “Polarik” and guess which was the only Related Blog.

    You guessed it!

    Oh well, those were the days.

    Now this one comes up:

    Related Blogs:

    Obama’s forged birth certificate – http://bogusbirthcertificate.blogspot.com/

    Anyways, I don’t know if these Obots have correctly identified Polarik, but I do know their only motive is to discredit his COLB findings.

  300. rosettasister Says:

  301. rosettasister Says:

    FACTBOX-Security developments in Iraq, Aug 3

    http://www.reuters.com/article/featuredCrisis/idUSMOH247739

  302. Troy Says:

    http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2009/08/03/obama-kenyan-birth-certificate-august-3-2009-obama-kenyan-evidence-sarah-obama-2008-reports-mombassa-consistent-august-4-1961/

  303. KoolAid_Free_Lexi Says:

    rosettasister Says:
    August 3, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    TV Ad Targets Lou Dobbs, CNN on Obama Birth Certificate “Issue”

    http://www.usnews.com/blogs/robert-schlesinger/2009/08/03/tv-ad-targets-lou-dobbs-cnn-on-obama-birth-certificate-issue.html

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2307164/posts?page=1#1

    I’m sure Lou is shaking in his boots from the attacks by the pansies at MM. (Media Matters)

    1 posted on Monday, August 03, 2009 9:32:48 AM by pissant

    Remember this pic:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2307164/posts?page=7#7
    ********

    MM must be totally poo’ing their bloomers to go this far.

    I don’t seem to ever remember many presidential candidate supporters paying for “after election” pandering ads before now. At least not in central FLA, that is.

    The ad was nothing but race baiting and it if injures Dobbs, he should sue MM for defamation. Matter of fact,, if any of us suffer from this, we should file a case action. By now, we know a few ppl who might take the case.

  304. rosettasister Says:

    Pakistani Army denies talks with Mehsud — Army will carry out a major offensive against Baitullah Mehsud at the time of its choice

    http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=23641

    The Army officer, who wished not be named, told The News such reports were being spread by pro-militant sources to create confusion in the country and abroad.

    He felt Baitullah and his supporters might be wishing that the government and the military approach him again for peace talks.

    “This cannot happen now. Both the civil and military authorities have concluded that Baitullah is an enemy of Pakistan and must be dealt with accordingly,” he stressed.

    He argued the armed forces had disrupted the militants’ network run by Baitullah and his allied groups by arresting key figures, seizing weapons and taking control of some of their training centres and safe houses.

    He said the terrorists’ ability to carry out suicide bombings in urban areas had diminished.

    He thought Baitullah and his commanders did not have an endless supply of suicide bombers.

    “Besides trying to bottle up Baitullah’s men and area in South Waziristan from three sides to prevent his supplies, the Army also carried out action against his allied groups in different places, including Shah Hasankhel village, in Lakki Marwat district.

    Better security in cities and on roads had also affected the mobility of Baitullah’s men,” the military official said.

    He pointed out people like Baitullah wanted to control the territory and enhance their power.

    He said it was futile to talk to someone whose demands keep growing and who is irreconcilable.

    “Let me assure you that there have been no talks recently with Baitullah.

    It is now out of question,” he maintained.

    He added the Army would carry out a major offensive against Baitullah at the time of its choice.

    A senior bureaucrat looking after Fata also said no peace talks were taking place with Baitullah.

    He said he checked with the military authorities after hearing reports that the two sides could be holding talks again.

    “But I was assured that it was a closed chapter as there was no need for holding peace talks with Baitullah,” he added.

  305. rosettasister Says:

    Even Pakistanis don’t like the New York Times!

    From righteous_fire

    Re: Beneath Calm in Pakistani Valley Lie Signs of New Conflict

    NY Times is a highly biased institution of global propaganda for those who are bitterly against us and people who want freedom and liberty for themselves.

    All you guys should do a boycott of this sensationalist BS maker organization when it comes to any news, because we can already predict what they will be spewing forth against us in any type of situation.

  306. rosettasister Says:

  307. rosettasister Says:

    GLORIA (Misa Criolla)

    /Gloria a Dios en las alturas

    y en la tierra paz a los hombres,

    paz a los hombres,

    paz a los hombres que ama el Señor./ (2)

    /Te alabamos, te bendecimos,

    te adoramos, glorificamos./ (2)

    /Te damos gracias,/ (3)

    por tu inmensa gloria.

    /Gloria a Dios en las alturas

    y en la tierra paz a los hombres,

    paz a los hombres,

    paz a los hombres que ama el Señor./ (2)

    /Te alabamos, te bendecimos,

    te adoramos, glorificamos./ (2)

    /Te damos gracias,/ (3)

    por tu inmensa gloria,

    Señor Dios, Rey Celestial,

    Dios Padre Todopoderoso.

    Señor, Hijo único, Jesucristo,

    Señor Dios, Cordero de Dios,

    Hijo del Padre,

    tu que quitas el pecado del mundo,

    ten piedad de nosotros.

    Tu que quitas el pecado del mundo,

    atiende nuestras súplicas.

    Tu que reinas con el Padre,

    ten piedad de nosotros, de nosotros.

    /Gloria a Dios en las alturas

    y en la tierra paz a los hombres,

    paz a los hombres,

    paz a los hombres que ama el Señor./ (2)

    /Porque Tú solo eres santo,

    solo Tú, Señor Tú solo./ (2)

    /Tú solo Altísimo Jesucristo,/ (2)

    /con el Espíritu Santo./ (2)

    en la gloria de Dios Padre,

    /Amén./ (4)

  308. Tenacity Says:

    I’ve been pretty sure for a while that our favorite document/image expert is actually Dr. Ronald Jay Polland. He would be better off going by his real name now that he has been outed for a while now. It makes him look suspicious and makes him an easy target for his opponents. His photo is now up on Orly’s blog as a facebook friend. I’m on firefox right now and cannot access Orly’s blog without opening IE.

  309. Troy Says:

    Ten, what’s the news on the presentments today?…Heard anything?

  310. Tenacity Says:

    The slimes over at Peoples Forum outed him some time ago as well. See this link:
    http://barackryphal.blogspot.com/2009/07/meet-ronald-jay-polland.html

  311. Tenacity Says:

    Troy,
    I’m supposed to be on a conference call at 8 EDT. I’ve been too busy to check in at PHN today.

  312. Tenacity Says:

    I lied. That conference call is a Tea Party call.

    Here’s a report from Della:
    presentments are printed and prepared
    sounds like they picked up a few more volunteers
    citizens of DC seem to be glad they are there.
    they appreciate what they are doing
    and say “it’s about time somebody did something!”

    Chalice will be calling into this show at 9:00pm EDT http://www.blogtalkradio.com/PatriotsHeartNetwork/2009/08/04/Tea-Party-Patriots

  313. Bones Says:

    Has everyone seen this already, from TechnicalEditor on Free Republic?

    It’s an Australian Certified copy of Birth that looks suspiciously like the purported Kenyan Certified copy… if you look at the page info it says it’s from 2007. If you look at the bottom, the book and page numbers 44B and 5733 are identical to the purported Obama BC. The fonts are different. But it seems someone copied from this BC on the web to produce the Kenyan one. Note the names Lavender, Miller, etc…

  314. Bones Says:

    Here’s the freeper link:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2307402/replies?c=291

  315. Tenacity Says:

    Today has been more of an organizational day in D.C…putting CDs in sleeves, printing up presentments & etc. They are now ready to rock-n-roll tomorrow. Haven’t heard from Chalice or Carl yet, but they will be calling into the show posted above.

  316. sdee Says:

    Oreilly is on, arguing that republicans have oppt to hit Obama on his failing policies and that they are going to lose that oppt by talking about the kooky birth certificate

    That is a weak argument – either he is not familiar with the real NBC issues or he is and is trying to bury it. Either way it is pathetic.

  317. Troy Says:

    The Australian BC is a blatant fake….It shouldn’t take anyone but a second to see why…Do I need to elaborate?

  318. Bones Says:

    Why Troy? I don’t see it, and last I checked I thought I was someone ;).

  319. Tenacity Says:

    Troyarik,
    We are all waiting for a lesson in forgery. Be careful what you admit to knowing.

  320. Tenacity Says:

    The Coat of Arms looks like the Kenyan CoA for one.

  321. Tenacity Says:

    Hillary headed for Kenya?
    http://logisticsmonster.com/2009/08/03/it-appears-hillary-is-taking-a-trip-to-kenya/

  322. Troy Says:

    I can see what looks like signs of photoshopping…I also think that “Technical Editor” should have posted a link to the page where this “thumbnail” was found….I sure would have….I already read an article of someone bragging that they had used the KBC as a template to make a Chester A. Arthur BC…I’m going to check more things…There are some oddities.

  323. Bones Says:

    Crest looks different to me. Shield has different sunburst pattern and looks like a native or something standing to right of shield.

    Also, David Bomford, if you search on that site, is collecting photos of Bomfords. He provides his email address on this page. If you go there and search for David you’ll find the line that has his email.

    http://www.bomford.net/worcestershire/treeannotated.htm

    It seems that it may be his birth certificate (cert. copy) he’s contributed to the Bomford site…

    If you scroll or search down to his appearance in the tree, next David if you are searching, there is a “b” standing for “born” that is a link. It links to the certified copy of reg. of birth.

  324. Bones Says:

    This goes directly to the line with the link:

    http://www.bomford.net/worcestershire/treeannotated.htm#David_Jeffrey_Bomford

  325. Bones Says:

    FYI, they were “making their own” Kenyan BC’s at democraticunderground, but that was a separate, and insane, disinformation spread attempt.

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389×6206640

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  327. Troy Says:

    Katie, I got the email…Hilarious!!!!

    Thanks, Ten!

  328. Troy Says:

    Thanks bones…That pretty much settles it then…The KBC is a fake.

  329. Troy Says:

    I don’t know why she waists her time with these people….I also didn’t realize that Ann Coulter and Karl Rove were consitutional scholars or experts..(sarc)

  330. Katie Says:

    You’re welcome Troy. I don’t know how to share it with others, but it sure gave me a much needed chuckle.

    Don’t mess with Texas!! Or Troy from Texas!! 😀

  331. Troy Says:

    This from Leo.
    **************
    [Ed. When I plug bomford.net into the the Wayback Machine web site search engine, I get hits going back to 2006. I can follow them to this link… for example this is the link to the bomford.net page as it appeared on Dec 16, 2006. I then click through “The Worcestershire Bomfords” then click “Annotated Family Tree” and that leads me to a big page where I can search the page for “David Jeffrey Bomford” and there is a small link there under the letter “b” and if I click it (go ahead and click it) it leads to a page which says:

    Not in Archive.

    No archived versions of the page you requested are available. If the page is still available on the Internet, we will begin archiving it during our next crawl.

    You may want to:

    * Search for all pages on the site bomford.net/
    * Try a different page address, at top

    See the FAQs for more info and help, or contact us.

    OK, if I right click the link and isolate the part which you have provided

    it then leads to the South Australia birth certification… but the Way Back Machine doesn’t have this certification you are relying on archived which tells me that everything at this Bomford site is real and archived… but the certifcate – which may be real – is not archived – which means it’s possible that it’s just been added to the site… and that could mean foul play. I really don’t know what to make of it. If I just plug the URL for the image into the Way Back Machine it gives the same response – that the page is not archived – and this does not seem right to me if the rest of the site is. Not saying it’s bogus, but it is an issue. Just trying to be fair and balanced.]

  332. Bones Says:

    There are other links to bc’s on that site. Are they archived?

  333. Troy Says:

    😀

  334. Bones Says:

    I know better actually… Wayback doesn’t archive every single jpeg, I’ve run across that many times. I’m not pursuing this anymore. The BC is fake, and I think it was all done to discredit Orly. The jpeg itself was last modified in June of 2007. David Bomford has an email and can be contacted. Nothing adds up to the Bomford BC being a planted fake. It just doesn’t. Anyone who hangs on to the notion now really will look like fringe. Time to move on to the issues at hand, imo. Orly will now have a more difficult battle. They won this round, but this issue will not go away.

  335. rosettasister Says:

    New Thread:

    https://rosettasister.wordpress.com/2009/08/04/wishing-well/

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    This is wierd. Bue Santa Rosa is interesting to learn about.

  338. rosettasister Says:

    hi, brianna!

    brianna is a lovely name.

    not quite sure what you mean when you write “this is weird.”

    if you mean we don’t stay on topic, I fear we are incorrigible that way.

    Santa Rosa is patroness of all the Americas, including the United States, so she is very special to me.

    rose

  339. rosettasister Says:

    If you’d like to view most recent post you can go here:

    https://rosettasister.wordpress.com/

    Most of the commenters here are conservative, but some of us are centrist.

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