colores en el cielo / colours in the sky



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  1. rosettasister Says:

    This is on now!

    Troy Says:
    July 3, 2009 at 12:53 am

    Tenacity will be live on air with Dr. Kate in 5 minutes.

  2. Troy Says:

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  4. KoolAid_Free_Lexi Says:

    We Now Have A Total Gangster Government

  5. KoolAid_Free_Lexi Says:

    Free Video Library

  6. Tenacity Says:

    Wow, I hate technical difficulties and I love intelligent knowledgeable guests. Dr Kate and Ilo Jones are magnificent. Red is unshakably brilliant. I hope somebody was taking notes.

  7. Troy Says:

    Good show tonight, Ten!

  8. Tenacity Says:

    Thanks Troy, it helps to have phenomenal people around me.

  9. Tenacity Says:

    At the beginning, I had no sound on my end. Close to the end, I was muted by the producer and she didn’t know it. I am too much of a perfectionist to not be bothered. Fortunately, I’ve performed enough to not let it interfere with the flow. Everyone covered for me well.

  10. Tenacity Says:

    The greatest part of the whole thing is the contacts and friendship being developed.

  11. ryansgrammy Says:

    Ten — I missed the show — is it possible to hear it tomorrow????

    Was at a tea party meeting tonight. Seven weeks ago there were 8 people — tonight over 100 — encouraging.

    I sent out emails today encouraging people to write letters to the Judge regarding the Kerchner vs O eligibility case. I find out tonight that the Judge wants no such letters and they are being thrown out. I’m confused as I listened to the show the other night with Apuzzo and he said send the letters. Not sure what happened.

  12. Troy Says:


  13. Troy Says:

    I’m confused as I listened to the show the other night with Apuzzo and he said send the letters. Not sure what happened.
    The case is now in the hands of a different judge than the one that was accepting letters….On the show they gave out the contact info for the new judge…I had a feeling that when they did that it was a mistake…It sounds like I was right.

  14. sdee Says:

    OK – gather up all that you knew (or even suspected) was traitorous, despicable and idiotic about the Waxman Climate Bill.

    Well, it is 1000 times worse than that.

    Never mind going after pols who voted voting Yes. ALL of Congress should be impeached, tarred, feathered and exiled for simply writing, debating, photocopying or even resting an elbow on a single page of this garbage.


    50 Reasons For the Next Revolution (or just pick your favorite 10)

  15. Tenacity Says:

    There is an archive available now at

  16. Katie Says:

    Tenacity ~ Re: tonight’s call:

    1) You made it look easy. 🙂

    2) I could listen to Dr. Kate for hours.

    3) It was encouraging to hear the positive points made by Red and Ilo and know that they see some positive signs after years of talking to the walls.

    4) I have a LOT to learn…

    We’ll be at the Tea Party in Castle Rock. Will you be going to one?

    Happy INdependence Day to all. (NOT Dependence Day as some are trying to create!!)

  17. sdee Says:

    Troy that ebay listing gets crazier all the time. Even it is a hoax, someone is making some very visible heavy handed moves to delete ebay listings and pull youtube (Google) accounts.

    I saw this today…. It likes Bo and Omidyar (founder of eBay are good buds). Google’s in too.

    There is more! It seems that Omidyar is also a trustee of the Punahou School in Hawaii. We will never see those school records.

  18. Troy Says:

    I have always wondered why no one has ever mentioned that a genuine long form BC would have the baby’s feet print on it….Mine does….This guy, in his description of the Kenyan BC, mentioned that it had Obama’s right foot print on it….That really got my attention!!!!….Why would he toss that little tid bit in there?….No one has ever even mentioned it before…..Joseph Farah, of World Net Daily, is all over this situation and if it is real and it really does have Obama’s foot print on it, then it will be UNDISPUTEABLE and Obama’s ass will be going to prison right along with several other key figures….If it is real, then I have absolutely no doubt at all that Farah will make it public in a sensational fashion….If anyone can get the job done it is him….I hope he doesn’t get “accidented”….I also hope that Corsi is ready as a back-up.

  19. sdee Says:

    Using eBay to run a scam in plain sight seems odd. So, let’s assume Overwhelmed Orange has the BC. Anyone here have thoughts on the advantages to trying to to sell it via ebay vs other means?

    Thoughts on why they posted their photos on ebay?

    hmmmm – well Ebay has nearly perfected safe anonymous international transactions.

    I also have to wonder if anyone having a copy could remain anonymous very long if there was in fact an original BC on file in Kenya.

  20. Tenacity Says:

    Why hasn’t Corsi, Unruh & Farrah gotten their butts up their, made a deal with this guy, made certified copies to spread around for safe keeping and published the BC at WND?

  21. sdee Says:

    Troy Says: at 4:45 am if it is real and it really does have Obama’s foot print on it, then it will be UNDISPUTEABLE and Obama’s ass will be going to prison

    You are assuming that the person who wins the auction will actually make it public. Depending on who the winner is, it could be destroyed or, kept safe in return for “favors”

  22. Troy Says:

    Tenacity Says:

    July 3, 2009 at 4:48 am
    Why hasn’t Corsi, Unruh & Farrah gotten their butts up their, made a deal with this guy, made certified copies to spread around for safe keeping and published the BC at WND?
    I think that it is in the works as we speak.

  23. Troy Says:

    You are assuming that the person who wins the auction will actually make it public. Depending on who the winner is, it could be destroyed or, kept safe in return for “favors”
    It’s no longer being auctioned and will not be in the future.

  24. Troy Says:

    Thoughts on why they posted their photos on ebay?
    He explained this in the article link that I posted….He was actually VERY smart in doing that….The whole Ebay thing was actually strategically brilliant also….Thisa guy, for safety reasons, needs for this thing to be EXTREMELY public and visible….The more it is, the safer he is.

    If it is real, I can assure you that Farah will get his hands on it.

  25. sdee Says:

    So he will not sell it, or is he just using ebay to draw in private offers for the BC?

  26. Tenacity Says:

    I would have taken the BC and recorded it at several county recorders for starters. You can record anything you want. Record it at the Secretary of State’s office with a security interest filing. Several official recordings will make it very difficult to make it go away. Take it to Polarik and have him post a certified image. Go to any official agency that is able to reproduce certified copies like a title insurance company.

  27. Tenacity Says:

    I’m going to work the Parker festivities. Collect some petition signatures and hand out a bunch of flyers on the Continental Congress, site and invitations for folks to join the Parker Citizens Homeland Security Association.

  28. Troy Says:

    sdee Says:

    July 3, 2009 at 4:57 am
    So he will not sell it, or is he just using ebay to draw in private offers for the BC?
    Oh, I think he definitely intended on auctuioning it and soon realized that it wasn’t going to happen….Interested parties have his contact info now and a private transaction will take place…..It is not as simple as a secret meeting and an exchange….There will have to be a forensic labratory examination before anyone will be willing to cough up a sizeable amount of cash….The process will take a little time.

  29. sdee Says:

    I am not sure how much time we have left Troy.

    All of Obama’s amateur foreign games have unravelled badly, he has pissed on two nuclear powers that want to destroy America, and he is on his way to get fleeced by Putin.

    The foreign and domestic havoc that has beset us will only get worse, our only hope is to get someone in who knows what they are doing, fast, very fast.

    Can you think of anything other than the BC longshot that would do that?

  30. Tenacity Says:

    I’m afraid you are correct. Some thought that the Kenyan would not do as much damage in 4 years as they seem to have already accomplished. S/Ob is a fall guy. He is supposed to fail at fixing things. He’s not failing and he’s not just stupid. He is implementing the plan of the puppet masters. They have orchestrated this attack from within so that it disrupts the economic, military and diplomatic systems in multiple ways. You might be able to plug one or two holes, but not 30+. At this point, we can only help our community and possibly our state. To do what is required to stop the false-god, we need a lot more (millions) to take a stand and neither the education nor courage/passion seems to have swelled enough yet. The bankster/globalists have either brainwashed, bought or scared the media, educational, legislative and judicial systems. This has left us without the means for rapid response.

  31. Tenacity Says:

    sdee et al,
    If you want to hear some solutions, listen to tonight’s show archive at

    I had a sound problem at first, but I just listened to the replay and it turned out to be quite good.

  32. Troy Says:

    Can you think of anything other than the BC longshot that would do that?
    Yes, if our military overthrew his ass.

  33. Tenacity Says:

    Our military is substantially infiltrated. It is splitting. They are using the penal code they call a military court to court marshal good people. One thing that is happening is the use of an illegitimate POTUS as a defense. This is important. Just like with some justices, our military is starving for public support. If enough people stand up, we enable those wanting to stand up behind the bench and in uniform. People (sheeple) has got to recognize that the wolf is not just at the door, but stepping inside and threatening our very existence.

  34. Troy Says:

    People (sheeple) has got to recognize that the wolf is not just at the door, but stepping inside and threatening our very existence.
    I am afraid that the sucker is already eating our porridge

  35. Troy Says:

    Excellent article here:

  36. Tenacity Says:

    Truly excellent article Troy…Thanks!

  37. sdee Says:

    Ten, Troy, good stuff – sorry I had to drop off last night.

    I agree that Americans should be outraged enough to take to the streets. Hondurans took action to save their country when their leader rose above the rule of law – before an irreversible slide to dictatorship. Americans elected a far worse regime and worshiped it.

    Troy is right – clearly no one ever expected Obama/Axlerod could move this far this fast. The damage is done. It appears Obama has served his purpose. He is capitulating and the dominoes are now falling.

    Do we need to wake up to a new fight? Not the one to save America from an illegal regime, but to put someone in, with haste, who can fight back and minimize the damage?

    The stakes are infinitely higher as hijacked airliners have been replaced with nuclear ballistic missiles.

  38. sdee Says:

    oops meant to say “Ten is right”

  39. sdee Says:

    Putin tells Obama: On your knees be-atch

  40. sdee Says:

    Netenyahu tells Obama: Out of my way be-atch

  41. sdee Says:

    Buy the Secretary of State and you buy the election. The Soros playbook.

    “”If this trend continues, our elections may soon be no more honest than the one recently held in Iran. If the Secretary of State Project and Acorn are allowed to so manipulate the process, there will be more “victories” like Al Franken’s to come.””

  42. sdee Says:

    Ramirez at his best

  43. rosettasister Says:

    8:31 AM Pacific

    Good morning, sdee!

  44. rosettasister Says:

    Geert Wilders Again.

    Is this the place or time for a discussion on Islam to start?

    De strijd is hier tegen het fascistische moslimfundamentalisme, dat in Iran de bevolking in een wrede wurggreep houdt.

    The fight is against the fascist Islamic fundamentalism in Iran that the population in a cruel stranglehold hold.

    Bewaar je filosofische/theologische discussies voor later alsjeblieft, of open ergens een topic hierover.

    Keep your philosophical / theological discussions for later, please, or open a topic on this somewhere.

    Bottehond en alle anderen die hier al 2 weken bezig zijn: Mijn complimenten!.

    Botte Dog and all others who are already 2 weeks: My compliments!.

    Ik ben zelf een n00b, een ouderwetse pennenlikker, dus heb ik geen idee hoe ik Tor etcetera moet gebruiken, maar ik doe mijn best de info die hier op de draad verschijnt zoveel mogelijk rond te sturen, zodat mensen in ieder geval weten wat daar (en hier) aan de hand is.

    I am a n00b, an old-fashioned pennenlikker, so I have no idea how I should use Tor etc., but I do my best info here on the thread appears as much as possible around them, so people at least know what the ( and here) on.

    Inmiddels misbruiken de linksen in de tweede Kamer de situatie in Iran om Wilders weer aan te vallen.

    Meanwhile abuses are left in the second room the situation in Iran to Wilders again to attack.

    Heel slim om iemand anders naar het spoeddebat te sturen.

    Very smart to have someone else to send urgent debate.

    Meteen begonnen ze te jammeren: “waar is Geert?

    Immediately they began to lament: “Where is Geert?

    Waar is Geert? Where is Geert?

    We willen HEM zien hangen! We want him hanged!

    Wat is dit toch? What is this anyway?

    Gaat het daar nog om argumenten? Are there still arguments?

    Of willen ze alleen maar prijsschieten op Wilders, zo knus met elkaar vereend tegen de blonde satan?

    Or are they just price shoot Wilders, so cozy with each other united against the blond Satan?

    Stelletje kinderen zijn het, zonder ook maar enig benul van waar het om gaat.

    Bunch of children, without even any idea what it is.

    Schande, dat het politieke “debat” is afgegleden naar Wildersje bashen.

    Shame that the political “debate” has tended to Wildersje bash.

    Stelletje ratten. Bunch of rats.

    (Geert Wilders and some of his political allies are standing up for the Iranian freedom fighters and the opposition chooses to attack Wilders instead.)

  45. rosettasister Says:

    An Appeal to Cultural Muslims

    But is the real Islam indeed a peaceful religion? Are people such as Geert Wilders, Robert Spencer, and Dr. Ali Sina Islam bashers? Is the real Islam completely innocent of all the charges liberty-honoring civilized people level against it? Read what Hamid Hafez, a former jihadist himself, has to say about Islam.

  46. Troy Says:

    Buy the Secretary of State and you buy the election. The Soros playbook.

    “”If this trend continues, our elections may soon be no more honest than the one recently held in Iran. If the Secretary of State Project and Acorn are allowed to so manipulate the process, there will be more “victories” like Al Franken’s to come.””
    ….may soon be????…..We are already there in the last election….Anyone that thinks that all of the electronic voting was on the “up and up” is being terribly naive.

  47. Troy Says:

    Someone needs to kick this asshole dead square in the nuts so he can feel his globals warming.

  48. Troy Says:

  49. Troy Says:


  50. rosettasister Says:

    Troy Says:
    July 3, 2009 at 4:22 pm


    I’m a Long Islander, and believe me, you don’t want to get Long Islanders mad at you!

    They will eat you for breakfast!

    Actually, we had our daughter’s wedding reception very closeby, in Old Stony Brook on the Washington Spy Trail.

    And even though Washington got around, he never slept there.

    Because the British slept there.

    Thanks, Troy!

  51. rosettasister Says:

    Tehrani says:
    3 juli 2009 om 13:44 July 3, 2009 at 13:44

    In de Telegraaf van vandaag: In the Telegraph today:

    “Onze contacten in Iran zeggen: als Het Westen nu niet doorgaat is alles voor niets geweest”.

    “Our contacts in Iran say: If the West fails now is all for nothing.”

  52. rosettasister Says:

    “I support these people”

    But if you look at what it’s all about freedom and the snake was young and our women forcefully ask their struggle to support and information, make their voices heard, then my concerns away.

    Dit is een goede zaak. This is a good thing.

    En ik ben er inmiddels van overtuigd dat dit een echte grassroot opstand is.

    And I am now convinced that this is a real grass root revolt is.

    Een revolutie binnen de revolutie, zoals pepe escobar het in mijn vorige linkje zegt.

    A revolution within the revolution, as pepe escobar in my previous link says.

    Díe Menschen steun ik. I support those people.

    Zij zijn “ons soort Menschen”, geen islamisten met een stiekeme agenda.

    They are “our kind of people”, not Islamists with a sneaky agenda.

    Uiteraard kent Iran (dat weet ik inmiddels) een geschiedenis van intriges, oorlogen, opstanden, manipulaties door het Westen en andere landen, broeders die tegen broeders vechten.

    Of course Iran has (that I know now) a history of intrigue, war, insurrection, manipulation by the West and other countries, brothers against brothers fight.

    Maar het Internet heeft een kracht in zich die álles kan veranderen.

    But the Internet is a force in which everything can change.

    Dit is een nieuw soort emancipatieopstand. This is a new kind of emancipation revolt.

    En degenen die proberen hun agenda door de Sea of Green te laten uitvoeren komen bedrogen uit.

    And those who try their agenda by the Sea of Green to get disappointed.

    Niemand had dit verwacht. Nobody had expected this.

    De zaak is uit ieders handen geglipt, de burgers nemen de plaats in die hen rechtmatig toekomt.

    The case is in everyone’s hands slipped, the citizens take the place in which they legitimately deserve.

    Dit is een opstand voor vrijheid , burgerrechten, emancipatie en moderniteit.

    This is a revolt for freedom, civil rights, emancipation and modernity.

    En als daar moslims aan meedoen, prima. And if Muslims to participate, fine.

    Iedereen weet dat het pacificeren van de islam uit moslims en islamitische landen zélf moet komen.

    Everyone knows that the peace of Islam and Muslims from Islamic countries to come.

    En dit is hun kans. And this is their chance.

    Ik hoop dat je nu begrijpt waarom ik wat korzelig op je reageerde.

    I hope you now understand why I have some crusty on your submissions.

    En ik hoop dat je ook af en toe een klein handje toesteekt.

    And I hope you also take a small handful toesteekt.

  53. rosettasister Says:

    Will our representatives even debate Iran when they return from recess?!


    Harry krijgt een concurrent. Harry gets a competitor.

    En dat is D66-leider Alexander Pechtold . And that is D66 leader Alexander Pechtold.

    O, ja, hij is ook heel leuk. Oh, yes, he is also very nice.

    Hij was boos, nee woedend. He was angry, no furious.

    Op wie? Who?

    Op Ahmadinejad? On Ahmadinejad?

    Op de moordenaar van Neda? The killer of Neda?

    Nee, Alexander vroeg zich af waarom Geert tijdens het debat over Iran niet in de Kamer was.

    No, Alexander wondered why Geert during the debate on Iran is not in the room was.

    Hij vroeg aan de PVV-vertegenwoordiger waar blijft Geert?

    He asked the representative where is PVV Geert?

    Die arme man zei: ‘Ik ben hier namens de PVV.’

    Poor old man said: “I am here on behalf of the PVV.”

    Alexander: ‘Nee waar is Geert?’ Alexander: “No where is Geert?

    PVV: ‘Geen idee maar ik ben hier. PVV: ‘No idea but I’m here.

    U kunt met mij debatteren.’ You can discuss with me. ”

    Alexander: ‘Waar is Geert?’ Alexander: ‘Where is Geert?

    Dit was enige bijdrage van Alexander aan het debat: ‘Waar is Geert?’

    This was only contribution of Alexander in the debate: “Where is Geert?

    Voor degenen die het nog niet weten: het debat ging over Iran en niet over Geert.

    For those who still do not know the debate was about Iran and not Geert.

    Waar was Geert dan? Geert Where was it?

    In het ziekenhuis, bij de eerste hulp.

    In the hospital, the first aid.

    Waarom? Why?

    Buikpijn. Abdominal pain.

    Omdat hij zoveel heeft moeten lachen om Alexander de Grote van D66.

    Because he had to laugh at as much as Alexander the Great of D66.

  54. Troy Says:

    Happy Independence Day, everyone!!!!

  55. sdee Says:

    thx for the video Troy –

    Rose, my early days were in Brooklyn and LI. My father immigrated to New York after the war – his love for America ran deep. He saw exactly where taxing, big “progressive” government led – his hometown silently welcomed the Nazi troops in. , early on, and headed south, But, you know, I can just picture my mom in there giving that politician hell!

    I really do miss that no-BS attitude. Glad to see it aimed in the right direction.

    The fire in everyone’s eyes is the same.


    (in case anyone missed my comment above, the energy bill is far worse than higher taxes – FAR FAR worse. I am sending this link to anyone who is ignoring the energy bill or even tries to defend a scumbag politician who supports it)

  56. sdee Says:

    Obama to black sanctions against Iran. Anyone out there in Wonderland surprised?

  57. Troy Says:

  58. patriotamy Says:

    I wanna go home!! There’s no place like home!! ‘click,click,click’ (red ruby slippers clicking heels together) There’s no place like home!! ‘click,click,click’

    Dang, I just want my life to be peaceful again. I am afraid that will not be the case, the more of this crap that goes on and on and on.

  59. sdee Says:

    thx Troy – i will indeed share that


    Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence?

    Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died.

    Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army; another had two sons captured.

    Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War.

    They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor.

    What kind of men were they?

    Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine were farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well educated, but they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the penalty would be death if they were captured. Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags.

    Thomas McKean was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward.

    Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.

    At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson, Jr., noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire.The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt.

    Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months.

    John Hart was driven from his wife’s bedside as she was dying. Their 13 children fled for their lives. His fields and his grist mill were laid to waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished.

  60. Troy Says:

  61. sdee Says:

    Dang, I just want my life to be peaceful again. I am afraid that will not be the case, the more of this crap that goes on and on and on.

    Amy, I too search for hope high and low, not more dirt or doom. But I just can’t see us surviving 4 years of this regime. We are going to have to take our county back – yet the people don’t know – don’t want to know.

  62. sdee Says:

    If I can still find my “ray of hope” hat:

    – Someone (who?) threw a wrench in Obama and Chavez’s quiet little plan to cement Honduras into the Marxist bloc in Latin America.

    – The BC issue seems to have some wind in its sails and the ebay guy seems to be a professional (real proof that Obama is a usurper is one of the few thing big enough to replace him without waiting 4 years)

    – Secretary of State Clinton is conspicuously absent from all of Obama’s foreign concessions and disasters.

    – Dick Cheney is not popping up just to say hello.

    – Israel is moving aggressively to protect itself and Obama seems either interested or unable to do anything about it.

    – We saw a brief sign of life in the Whitehouse press corp

    – There are few (very few) in Congress now actually telling it like it is

  63. Troy Says:

    I also came to this conclusion several months ago and even stated it here…..What a pity!!!
    Dear JB,

    I am a professional military man, retired but still ready, willing and able to honor my oath to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies…” – The bunch of traitors, terrorists and conquistadors that presently hold “elected” and appointed office in our nation’s capitol have no intention of honoring the U.S. Constitution. Their intent is the destruction of the republic, the oppression of liberty, the crushing of all resistance and the establishment of a global government.

    When Cap and Trade is passed by the Senate and signed into law by Obama, the destruction of our nation will progress rapidly. Millions will be out of work. The cost of living will skyrocket and as this process progresses, violence will fill this country. This will be the excuse for new powers for the government and for United Nations troops to patrol our streets.

    The people will be disarmed door to door by troops that hate Americans. The U.S. armed forces will be down sized and those that remain, kept out of the country to protect the usurpers who are destroying this nation. The blood of liberty lovers will flow in the streets. Civil war will erupt as parents see the destruction of their families and millions of “domestic terrorists” who refuse to renounce their belief in God, Liberty and our Republic, finally resort to armed rebellion to save what they can, much too late. Once again, a dark age will fall upon the world and it will be darkest in what was once the free republic known as the United States of America.

    In the name of “change” we have sold our nation, our liberty, our future and the soul of America to the forces of evil. We have sewed the wind and we will reap the whirlwind.

    I do not believe any longer that this Republic can be saved. Those of us who care are not yet ready to do what needs to be done, to pay the price to retain our liberty and cage our government. Our enemies know this truth better than we. It will take force to drive this evil government from power just as it took force to establish our republic.

    For those of us who swore allegiance to the Constitution, this act is not yet feasible. We just can’t admit what we know in our hearts. To even think this, is treason under the new “hate crimes” laws. The forces of Global dominion have planned well and have captured the media, education and now our government is fully in their control.

    The last hope for this Republic, short of Divine intervention, is the United States Military and as long as the high command remains in the pocket of the oppressors, there is no hope.

    My advice, – get right with God, do whatever you can to protect and preserve your family, keep yourself informed, keep a low profile. When the opportunity arises, defend the Republic to the best of your ability. Do not expect mercy from the oppressors and finally, live free and die hard. God save the Republic.


  64. ryansgrammy Says:

    So now Colin Powell thinks Obamalamadingdong might be expanding government a little too much. Duh!

  65. rosettasister Says:

    Rush Limbaugh on Colin Powell

    I really don’t like Rush. I know many of you do.

    But I know much of what he utters is the truth.

    I just overheard him say that he suspects that Powell endorsed and voted for Obama because of their common African origins.

    I don’t care if Rush is right about this.

    We have to move forward as a nation.

    And Powell is right to speak out when he sees the dangerous path we’ve set upon.

    People won’t listen to me. But they will listen to a prominent African-American like Powell.

    A lot of criticism coming from the right about Powell’s remarks is not going to change minds.

    And that’s what we need right now.

    We need to change course.

  66. rosettasister Says:


    Palin to make announcement from Wasilla at 3

  67. Troy Says:

    In response to the Colnel’s letter posted above.
    Sadly, the Colonel is far from alone in his assessment. I am hearing similar assessments from active duty and retired service men and women, as well as many other community leaders on a daily basis now. The people, their states, their businesses, are NOT free!

    As many average Americans prepare to celebrate Independence Day with the usual fireworks and family cookouts, other American patriots like the Colonel, are taking to the streets in TEA Party protests, as they mourn the end of US freedom and supremacy, and pray for divine intervention that may bring an end to the hourly assault on all things American taking place in Washington DC today.
    The Constitution Does NOT Stand

    It’s now a matter of known fact that Barack Hussein Obama does not meet the constitutional eligibility for the office he holds and this means that Article II – Section I of the Constitution is no longer in force.

    It’s equally clear that no member of congress or the courts is the least concerned with the fact that we have a man sitting in the Oval Office who has not met constitutional standards, spends his every waking moment attacking the Constitution, and has not even passed a standard security clearance for the information he has access to.

    Every day, congress and the White House are forcing policies into law that are in direct contradiction to the Constitution. Nobody says a word… Even those who oppose those policies fail to use the Constitution to stop them.
    TEA Party goers now qualify as “Domestic Terrorists”

    The FBI and DHS are monitoring the TEA Party protests. Obama’s DHS has redefined “domestic terrorist” to include every American who opposes the One World Order regime running wild in Washington DC.

    Once defined as “domestic terrorists,” the Obama administration is free to treat them like terrorists and local law enforcement has been put on notice to do just that. As Obama comments in defense of freedom-fighters protesting against an illegitimate president in Iran, his DHS has determined that American freedom-fighters protesting our own illegitimate president are nothing more than “domestic terrorist” to be treated as such.
    The Lefts Full Court Press

    With a filibuster proof House and Senate, leftists in charge of the federal government sense that they must strike while they hold unbridled power. They drove the nation from a trillion dollars in debt to more then ten trillion in debt in their first 90 days in power.

    They confiscated control of the banking industry and the auto industry and they have most states hanging by a federal promise of taxpayer bailout funds, after pushing all of it to the brink of bankruptcy. Next they want control of the insurance industry, the health industry and the energy industry.

    Through Cap & Trade, they seek to bankrupt every American with laws which will make Al Gore a multi-billionaire, on the backs of the very Americans who thought Obama had their best interests at heart. The unemployment rate has already doubled under brief leftist rule with much worse ahead. The only jobs Obama wants to create are more government taxpayer funded jobs.

    They have destroyed our defense and intelligence communities and given aid and comfort to America’s enemies in Iran, North Korea, and third world dictatorships too numerous to mention.
    The End of Self-Governance

    Today, self-governance is defined as “mob rule” wherein 51% of the people are free to take away the rights of the other 49%. We call it “democracy.”

    But true self-governance was about the freedom to govern one’s self. Public enemy #1 in America today is the evil word “capitalism.” Of course capitalism is nothing more than economic freedom, the ability to self-govern ones economic condition through individual decisions.

    Americans don’t want freedom anymore. Left to govern themselves, they were free to make mistakes, some of them quite costly. So they voted to be governed by others, namely Ivy League elitists who allegedly know what’s best for them and promise to save them from themselves.

    The end of individual accountability and self-governance brings about the end of individual liberty and the death of individual, state and national independence.
    Now we are Dependents…

    Because we don’t like smokers, we use the power of the Fed to beat smokers over the head. We won’t stop them from smoking by outlawing tobacco, because we can profitably bludgeon smokers to death with excessive taxes. But we hope to pass legislation making it possible for them to smoke marijuana instead, because people on pot don’t resist anything.

    We will do the same to SUV drivers, folks with a bigger home or TV than ours, people who eat where we can’t afford to eat, and travel where we can’t afford to travel. We are petty and foolish… The guns we aim at others today will be turned on us soon.

    Because we don’t want someone to make more or have more than we have, we use the power of the federal government to take from those who have earned more. Though they promise to redistribute the confiscated wealth to those of lesser individual success, the money somehow ends up vanishing in the sea of wasteful federal programs instead.

    The states allowed the Fed to grab control of everything and now they exist at the pleasure of the Fed and are dependents of the Fed, just like the people. Freedom was sold for the promise of free-stuff and now that the Fed is also bankrupt, to the point that even Red China worries about our nation’s credit worthiness, there is nowhere left to turn for a bailout of the American Dream.
    Celebrating the Loss of Independence

    The election of Barack Obama marked the death of the Constitution. The policy of grabbing private industry after private industry marks the beginning of an era of federal mob rule. Those who dare stand opposed; will soon experience a fate similar to freedom-fighters in Iran and Honduras.

    Individual freedom and liberty died the moment that we stopped upholding the Constitution and the Free Republic for which it stands. Today, Independence Day marks the loss of independence, as a nation fast becoming only another third world partner in some insane One World Order, as the states collapse under the weight of excessive welfare spending and the dollar is dumped all around the world as an outdated currency with unknown value.

    When we fire our fireworks and set the table this 4th of July, we will be marking a very different event in human history. As the United States prepares for the final stages of utter collapse, we will remember the time when America was the beacon of freedom and hope around the world. Now it is a sad joke and a fading memory of hope for people around the world who sought freedom.

    Some believe that Obamanation represents real freedom. But all evidence says quite the contrary. Despite the mountain of evidence, the truth is just too ugly to stomach for most modern Americans. They are not cut from the same cloth as our nations Founders, or even our greatest generations.

    The colonel’s message above rings true, at least for anyone who has first hand experience with the price of freedom… The end of the uniquely American way of life is near. We cannot celebrate our freedom and independence this 4th of July, because 2009 marks the end of all that is good and decent in America. All that is good and decent in the world!

    Individual freedom is the greatest good on earth and Americans have let it die. For what – The false promise of free-stuff?

    Though I have always been proud of my country, its Founders and the Constitutional Republic they established, I am ashamed of my country today. I am ashamed of my fellow Americans who will celebrate this American holiday as if all is well, as their country is shoved off the cliff, right before their eyes.

    Like the good colonel and so many like him that I hear from day in and day out, I weep for the loss of my country on this July 4th. The freedom and Independence our forefathers bought and paid for with their blood is gone. And most Americans no longer have the stomach to realize it, much less save it!

    May God have mercy on those who have been so foolish.

    But I pray that he will show NO mercy to those who have systematically destroyed the greatest nation of free men ever known to mankind. For as they destroy American freedom, they destroy the hope of freedom for all others around the globe. This is not a deed that can go unpunished!

  68. rosettasister Says:

    Arizona Moves To Protect Residents From ObamaCare

  69. rosettasister Says:

    Houses and Birth Certificates For Sale: At a Little Red and Orange Corner Store

  70. Troy Says:

    rosettasister Says:

    July 3, 2009 at 6:43 pm

    Palin to make announcement from Wasilla at 3
    Hopefully she will announce that it has been discovered that Obama was born in Kenya and has defrauded the American people and is the process of being arrested.

  71. rosettasister Says:

    The Madness of King Obama–US Trying to BLOCK Sanctions Against Iran !?!?!

  72. rosettasister Says:

    Music: Kinobe – ‘Slip Into Something More Comfortable’.

  73. sdee Says:

    And Powell is right to speak out when he sees the dangerous path we’ve set upon.

    Rose I agree he needs to speak out – it his duty and I will add it to my rays-of-hope list.

    It is to weak, too late. My translation: “Hey Barack I’m OK with huge parasitic government growth, nationalization of private industry, ruination of the best healthcare in the world and an Energy Bill that sucks the life out of every America just so log as yo take your time and think about how to pay for it”

    I was Powell supporter since the early days of Bush 1. He is trying to nudge a freight train bent for hell, with a feather.

    As for Rush, I am with Lame Cherry. He knows exactly what is going and who is doing it. So why does he keep feeding us drips drabs and teasers. If Rush told us all he has pieced together, we would have the millions marching to DC.

  74. sdee Says:

    Hopefully she will announce that it has been discovered that Obama was born in Kenya and has defrauded the American people and is the process of being arrested.

    Palin had the winning bid for the BC? Well we can dream.

  75. sdee Says:

    Houses and Birth Certificates For Sale: At a Little Red and Orange Corner Store

    Wow Rose, it did not take them long to find Mr. Smith huh?

  76. rosettasister Says:

    Interesting commentary, sdee!

    I must say!

  77. rosettasister Says:

    Amazing photographs from #iranelection

  78. Troy Says:

    Here it is, the eve of Independence Day and the only thing the media can talk about is Michael Jackson….You would think that they could do some type of documentaries to help educate the dumbed down sheeple on exactly what the 4th of July represents….These people make me sick!!!….I am beyond projectile puking now and have moved on to exploding diarrhea….I will be so glad when they finally plant Jackson’s carcass in the ground and maybe then they will put their eyes back on the ball.

  79. rosettasister Says:

  80. Troy Says:

    Palin stepping down???…WTF???

  81. sdee Says:

    Troy – a few sites are saying that -. No

  82. rosettasister Says:

  83. rosettasister Says:

    Sarah Palin to step down as Alaska governor: Report

  84. Troy Says:

    sdee Says:

    July 3, 2009 at 7:49 pm
    Troy – a few sites are saying that -. No
    Fox is reporting it.

  85. rosettasister Says:

    BREAKING: Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin Will Resign July 26

  86. Troy Says:

    Hopefully it is a decision to mount a 2012 run.

  87. sdee Says:

    brother says on fox that she is spending 80% of her time defending herself under legal and media pressure and she cannot govern under those circumstances.

  88. sdee Says:

    he says she wants to focus on national issues like limited government capitalism , national security and energy independence

    (Sounds like a good platform to me 🙂 )

  89. sdee Says:


    “We are fisherman. We know only dead fish go with the flow”

  90. Troy Says:

    This is some funny stuff here.

  91. sdee Says:

    Pamela Geller’s take on Palin announcement:

    (Rose, when she says the “new media” – I think that includes you 🙂 )

    It is being reported that Governor Sarah Palin will announce that she will not be running for reelection as Governor of Alaska. Eureka! This is magnificent news. The thrilla from Wasilla! Hope! Change! Seriously.

    She has been mercilessly attacked. Brutal, but like water off a duck’s back. Those on the right who have suffered the slings and arrows of the vile left smear machine (the depths of which are unthinkable to decent men) know that the more they throw, the greater you are. The more vile, disgusting, outrageous the smear, the more envious and afraid you know the destroyers are.

    The Democrats and their propaganda machine, the dinosaur media, will continue to attempt to destroy and marginalize this wonder woman. New media better pick up the slack. Jugular for jugular.

    The hatred of the good for being the good. That is Palin. I am unmoved by assertions that Palin needs more foreign policy or more this and that. She has the key ingredient to great leadership – common sense. I am not concerned that she won’t get up to speed on the nitty gritty details of national and international issues. Her thinking, her epistemology is good.

    She has common sense, a moral compass and a very definite understanding of good and evil.

    Best of all, she is not a product of the limpwristed, spineless, dickless GOP. She is outside the box. She has grit. She has balls. She is my kind of kishka.

  92. Tenacity Says:

    Did I hear someone mention sausage (Kishke)?

  93. rosettasister Says:

    sdee Says:
    July 3, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    Pamela Geller’s take on Palin announcement:

    (Rose, when she says the “new media” – I think that includes you 🙂 )


    Funny you should mention that, sdee.

    This post has been getting some traffic lately:

  94. Tenacity Says:

    Technically, I believe PG was referring to Kishkes (guts) or intestinal fortitude. Folks, 2012 is going to be too late. We need leadership NOW. Electing another politician or gang of politicians will not change a thing. It’s time to throw off the false-god gubmit we have now and replace it with a slightly improve version of 1789. We need statesmen, sustenance pay, only the essential departments, more clearly defined restrictions on all 3 branches and a mandatory well-regulated state militia system. No more NEA, IRS, DHS, ATF or Federal Reserve. Start from scratch with a new CIA, FCC and DOE. Not a bad start…

  95. Troy Says:

    Tenacity Says:

    July 3, 2009 at 10:26 pm
    Did I hear someone mention sausage (Kishke)?

  96. rosettasister Says:

    Another Kashan University protest vid. Amazing: RT @perserP iranian students chant in Iran today (see below)

    The only power the gov in Iran has left is the fear it puts in ppl’s hearts. Take away the fear & u take away the power. Iran will prevail.21 minutes ago from web

  97. rosettasister Says:

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  99. rosettasister Says:

    From Tehrani:

    “And what can we do?”

    Wat u nu als burger doet laat ik weten dat ik niet alleen ben, dat mijn volk niet alleen staat.

    What you do now as a citizen I know that I am not alone, that my people is not alone.

    Voor mij en mijn volk is het voldoenden, maar wat de regeringen van het westen betreft, zij zijn oost-indische doven.

    For me and my people is enough, but what the governments of the west, it is east indian deaf.

    Zij willen niet van de geschiedenis leren. They do not learn from history.

    Van Chamberlain van 1939 toen alle waarschuweingen voor Hitler in de wind werd geslagen.

    From Chamberlain of 1939 when all the warning made for Hitler in the wind was beaten.

    Ik wil dat het westen het Iraanse volk helpt door te stoppen met de bescherming van de mullahs tegen de oppositie.

    I want the west to the Iranian people by helping to stop the protection of the mullahs against the opposition.

    Is dat veel gevraagd? Is that much to ask?

    Zelfs 1 brief naar de VS ambassade in Den haag en pleiten voor het stoppen met de steun aan de mullahs door de PMOI van terreurlijst te verwijderen, kan helpen.

    Even 1 letter to the U.S. Embassy in The Hague and call for stopping the aid to the mullahs by the PMOI from terror list removal, can help.

    Twee brieven tes te beter. Two letters tes the better.

    Info inwinnen van Information gathering NCR

  100. Troy Says:

    Missouri National Guard Train to Kill “Militia Insurgents” in Exercise
    by DefendUSx July 03, 2009 15:57

    Kurt Nimmo
    July 3, 2009

    Those dam Tea Partiers – better take ’em seriously! Who is the Governor of Missouri anyway? This is the 4th major “Police State” type incident going on there. It’s almost like what Obama wants as a model for the rest of the states. Totally against the Constitution. I just lost all respect for the South Dakota legislators and Governor.
    The Missouri National Guard is training to engage in combat with “militia” groups, according to the News Tribune.

    “During the battalion’s annual training exercise, eight members of the Jefferson City-based unit, acting as a fictitious militant group, attempted to disrupt the battalion’s operations through attacks and harassment. The battalion’s other two units, the Kansas City-based 205th Area Support Medical Company, and the Springfieldbased 206th Area Support Medical Company, fended off the attacks while performing their medical duties,” the newspaper reported on June 30.

    National Guard training in Missouri and South Dakota prepares soldiers to confront and kill “insurgent” Americans.

    The article was written by Silas Allen, a journalist with the Pentagon. In 2006, the Pentagon officially announced it would declare psychological warfare on the American people by planting propaganda in the corporate media and the Allen article is a less than covert part of this process.

    An earlier article written by Silas Allen, also posted on the News Tribune website, details a Missouri National Guard unit practicing basic convoy operations during a training exercise in the Black Hills of South Dakota on June 14. During the exercise, an “insurgent group” with “a reputation for harassing convoys with ambushes and improvised explosive devices,” attacks the Guard convoy. “The unit was also told to look out for civilians trying to approach the convoy on the battlefield. The civilians could be working with the insurgent group or could simply have a legitimate complaint,” Allen writes.

    The two exercises serve as prime examples of an orchestrated attempt by the government to train soldiers to militarily confront domestic “militia” groups.

    In April, a leaked DHS report on “rightwing extremism” said “right-wing militias” will recruit veterans returning from the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. “DHS/I&A assesses that rightwing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to exploit their skills and knowledge derived from military training and combat,” the report claims. “These skills and knowledge have the potential to boost the capabilities of extremists — including lone wolves or small terrorist cells — to carry out violence.”

    The corporate media hyped the supposed threat posed by “lone wolves” after white supremacist and probable government operative James von Brunn allegedly attacked the Holocaust museum in Washington. “The lone wolf is what concerns the Washington field office, what concerns the FBI the most,” John Perren, head of the counterterrorism branch at the FBI’s Washington field office, told the Associated Press.

    After Von Brunn’s brutal attack, the corporate media shill and government disinfo operative Glenn Beck attempted to link 9/11 truth activists to the deranged accused killer. The corporate media has attempted to link truth activists and patriots to the Von Brunn incident and an earlier one in Pittsburgh.

    A report produced by the Missouri State Police, entitled “The Modern Militia Movement,” specifically characterizes constitutionalists and Ron Paul supporters as domestic terrorists. “Red flags outlined in the document include political bumper stickers such as those for U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, talk of conspiracy theories such as the plan for a mega-highway from Canada to Mexico and possession of subversive literature,” the Missouri Information Analysis Center report states.

    In April, the Maryland National Guard was put on alert in anticipation of Tea Party protests, thus revealing that the government considers constitutional activists to be “insurgents” and “militants.”

    In March, the United States Army Reserve Command published a Force Protection Advisory recommending “situational awareness” and “mitigation measures” in response to End the Fed protests. On November 22, 2008, Alex Jones led a rally at the Federal Reserve Bank in Dallas Texas. The Dallas protest is specifically mentioned in the official Army document. Ron Paul’s brother was also in attendance. The event was monitored by the Pentagon.

    Defense Secretary Robert Gates has recommended merging the National Guard into the “Total Force” of the U.S. military. “The recommendations that are so disturbing are those involving the assimilation the National Guard and Reserves into the regular US military, under control and management of the DoD,” writes Carolyn Harris.

    The DoD currently trains its employees to regard protest as a form of domestic terrorism. “It has come to our attention that the Department of Defense’s Annual Level I Antiterrorism (AT) Training for 2009 misinforms Department of Defense (DoD) personnel that certain First Amendment-protected activity may amount to ‘low level terrorism,’” complained the ACLU last month.

    The federalized National Guard has increasingly engaged in training exercises and drills designed to confront the American people. The exercises in Missouri and South Dakota reveal how the government is brainwashing troops to consider constitutionalists and patriots as “insurgents” who will attack military checkpoints and convoys.

    In February, the National Guard conducted an “urban military” training mission in Arcadia, California. The Guard conducted a reconnaissance operation in the small town “to identify possible locations of the weapons dealer,” according to the Times Herald. The DHS, MIAC, the Virginia Fusion Center and others have characterized Second Amendment supporters and activists as potential terrorists.

    National Guard troops in Ohio, New York, Iowa, Wisconsin, and Kentucky have deployed to conduct exercises against the American people, including taking over schools and jails and assuming police functions illegal under the Posse Comitatus Act. National Guard troops were used to control the public during the Boston Marathon, the Kentucky Derby, and during New Year celebrations in Times Square last year.

    If you’d like to contact the Missouri National Guard about these training exercises aimed at patriots, constitutionalists, and supporters of the Second Amendment and the Constitution, call 1-800-GoGuard.

  101. rosettasister Says:

    blunt dog says:
    3 juli 2009 om 23:37 July 3, 2009 at 23:37

    I stood next to you and that I continue to do so.

    Je bent niet alleen. You’re not alone.

    Menschen hebben elkaar nodig, anders wordt het Leven een woestenij.

    People need each other, otherwise the life a wasteland.

    Velen hebben tranen gestort voor je volk, Tehrani.

    Many tears have paid for your people, Tehrani.

    Jouw volk heeft een heel bijzondere geschiedenis geschreven en dit is maar het begin.

    Your people have a very special history and this is just the beginning.

    De wereld moet de burgers van je land heel dankbaar zijn voor hun moed en woeste vrijheidsdrang.

    The world, the citizens of your country very grateful for their courage and savage freedom.

    Ik heb je volk in mijn hart gesloten. I got your people in my heart closed.

    En dat hebben jullie zelf verdient. And have you yourself deserve.

    We bedenken in de komende dagen nog wel wat goeie acties.

    We think in the coming days some good actions.

  102. Troy Says:

    Seeds of Dissent in the U.S. Military Are Growing
    by DefendUSx July 03, 2009 16:25

    By Dahr Jamail, Investigative Fund at The Nation Institute.

    Editor’s Note: The following is an introduction by Tom Engelhardt.

    The All-Volunteer Force (AVF) exists for a reason captured in a study by Colonel Robert D. Heinl, Jr., author of the “definitive history of the Marine Corps,” published in Armed Forces Journal in 1971. The U.S. military in Vietnam was at that moment at the edge of chaos. As Colonel Heinl put it, it was experiencing “widespread conditions… that have only been exceeded in this century by the French Army’s Nivelle mutinies of 1917 and the collapse of the Tsarist armies [of Russia] in 1916 and 1917.”

    In fact, statistics flowing back to Washington about the American war machine in Vietnam then pointed toward an unimaginable nightmare. Drug use was rampant; desertions stood at 70 per thousand, a modern high; small-scale mutinies or “combat refusals” were at critical, if untabulated, levels; incidents of racial conflict had soared; and strife between”lifers” and draftees was at unprecedented levels. Reported “fraggings” — assassination attempts — against unpopular officers or NCOs had risen from 126 in 1969 to 333 in 1971, despite declining troop strength in Vietnam. According to Colonel Heinl’s figures, as many as 144 antiwar underground newspapers were being published by, or for, soldiers. And most threatening of all, active duty soldiers in relatively small numbers (as well as a swelling number of Vietnam veterans) were beginning to actively organize against the war.

    When, in January 1973, before the war was even over, President Richard Nixon announced that an American draft army was at an end and an all-volunteer force would be created, this was why. The U.S. military was in the wilderness without a compass, having discovered one crucial thing: you couldn’t fight an endless, unpopular counterinsurgency war with the kind of conscript army a democracy had to offer. What resulted, of course, was the AVF, a moniker that, as Andrew Bacevich has written in his book The New American Militarism, was but “a euphemism for what is, in fact, a professional army… [that] does not even remotely ‘look like’ democratic America.” Citizenship and the obligation to serve were now officially severed and, from the 1980s on, most Americans would ever more vigorously cheer on the AVF from the sidelines, while it would be a force theoretically purged of possible Vietnam-style dissent and refusal.

    In that sense, it could be considered a success. We’ve now been at war seven and a half years in Afghanistan and more than five in Iraq, two catastrophic counterinsurgency struggles, and yet a Vietnam-style movement has neither arisen in the military, nor for that matter in the streets of what’s now called “the homeland.” But as Dahr Jamail indicates below and in his new book, The Will To Resist: Soldiers Who Refuse to Fight in Iraq and Afghanistan, dissent has proved irrepressible. With the generous support of the Nation Institute’s Investigative Fund, Jamail has produced a report on the seeds of refusal and dissent in the military that may — in a quagmire future in Afghanistan and possibly Iraq — grow into something far larger. — Tom Engelhardt

    On May 1st at Fort Hood in central Texas, Specialist Victor Agosto wrote on a counseling statement, which is actually a punitive U.S. Army memo:

    “There is no way I will deploy to Afghanistan. The occupation is immoral and unjust. It does not make the American people any safer. It has the opposite effect.”
    Ten days later, he refused to obey a direct order from his company commander to prepare to deploy and was issued a second counseling statement. On that one he wrote, “I will not obey any orders I deem to be immoral or illegal.” Shortly thereafter, he told a reporter, “I’m not willing to participate in this occupation, knowing it is completely wrong. It’s a matter of what I’m willing to live with.”

    Agosto had already served in Iraq for 13 months with the 57th Expeditionary Signal Battalion. Currently on active duty at Fort Hood, he admits, “It was in Iraq that I turned against the occupations. I started to feel very guilty. I watched contractors making obscene amounts of money. I found no evidence that the occupation was in any way helping the people of Iraq. I know I contributed to death and human suffering. It’s hard to quantify how much I caused, but I know I contributed to it.”

    Even though he was approaching the end of his military service, Agosto was ordered to deploy to Afghanistan under the stop-loss program that the Department of Defense uses to retain soldiers beyond the term of their contracts. At least 185,000 troops have been stop-lossed since September 11, 2001.

    Agosto betrays no ambivalence about his willingness to face the consequences of his actions:

    “Yes, I’m fully prepared for this. I have concluded that the wars [in Iraq and Afghanistan] are not going to be ended by politicians or people at the top. They’re not responsive to people, they’re responsive to corporate America. The only way to make them responsive to the needs of the people is for soldiers to not fight their wars. If soldiers won’t fight their wars, the wars won’t happen. I hope I’m setting an example for other soldiers.”
    Today, Agosto’s remains a relatively isolated act in an all-volunteer military built to avoid the dissent that, in the Vietnam era, came to be associated with an army of draftees. However, it’s an example that may, soon enough, have far greater meaning for an increasingly overstretched military plunging into an expanding Afghan War seemingly without end, even as its war in Iraq continues.

    Avoiding Battle

    Writing on his blog from Baquba, Iraq, in September 2004, Specialist Jeff Englehart commented: “Three soldiers in our unit have been hurt in the last four days and the true amount of army-wide casualties leaving Iraq are unknown. The figures are much higher than what is reported. We get awards and medals that are supposed to make us feel proud about our wicked assignment…”

    Over the years, in response to such feelings, some American soldiers have come up with ingenious ways to express defiance or dissent on our distant battlegrounds. These have been little noted in the mainstream media, and when they do surface, officials in the Pentagon or in Washington just brush them aside as “bad apple” incidents (the same explanation they tend to use when a war crime is exposed).

    But in the stories of men and women who served in the occupation of Iraq, they often play a different role. In October 2007, for instance, I interviewed Corporal Phil Aliff, an Iraq War veteran, then based at Fort Drum in upstate New York. He recalled:

    “During my stints in Iraq between August 2005 and July 2006, we probably ran 300 patrols. Most of the men in my platoon were just in from combat tours in Afghanistan and morale was incredibly low. Recurring hits by roadside bombs had demoralized us and we realized the only way we could avoid being blown up was to stop driving around all the time. So every other day we would find an open field and park, and call our base every hour to tell them we were searching for weapon caches in the fields and everything was going fine. All our enlisted people had grown disenchanted with the chain of command.”
    Aliff referred to this tactic as engaging in “search and avoid” missions, a sardonic expression recycled from the Vietnam War when soldiers were sent out on official “search and destroy” missions.

    Sergeant Eli Wright, who served as a medic with the 1st Infantry Division in Ramadi from September 2003 through September 2004, had a similar story to tell me. “Oh yeah, we did search and avoid missions all the time. It was common for us to go set camp atop a bridge and use it as an over-watch position. We would use our binoculars to observe rather than sweep, but call in radio checks every hour to report on our sweeps.”

    According to Private First Class Clifton Hicks, who served in Iraq with the First Cavalry from October 2003, only six months after Baghdad was occupied by American troops, until July 2004, search and avoid missions began early and always had the backing of a senior non-commissioned officer or a staff sergeant. “Our platoon sergeant was with us and he knew our patrols were bullshit, just riding around to get blown up,” he explained. “We were at Camp Victory at Baghdad International Airport. A lot of the time we’d leave the main gate and come right back in another gate to the base where there’s a big PX with a nice mess hall and a Burger King. We’d leave one guy at the Humvee to call in every hour, while the others stayed at the PX. We were just sick and tired of going out on these stupid patrols.”

    These understated acts of refusal were often survival strategies as well as gestures of dissent, as the troops were invariably undertrained and ill-equipped for the job of putting down an insurgency. Specialist Nathan Lewis, who was deployed to Iraq with the 214th Artillery Brigade from March 2002 through June 2003, experienced this firsthand. “We never received any training for much of what we were expected to do,” he said when telling me of certain munitions catching fire while he and other soldiers were loading them onto trucks, “We were never trained on how to handle [them] the right way.”

    Sergeant Geoff Millard of the New York Army National Guard served at a Rear Operations Center with the 42nd Infantry Division from October 2004 through October 2005. Part of his duty entailed reporting “significant actions,” or SIGACTS — that is, attacks on U.S. forces. In an interview in 2007 he told me, “When I was there at least five companies never reported SIGACTS. I think ‘search and avoids’ have been going on for a long time. One of my buddies in Baghdad emails that nearly each day they pull into a parking lot, drink soda, and shoot at the cans.” Millard told me of soldiers he still knows in Iraq who were still performing “search and avoid” missions in December 2008. Several other friends deploying or redeploying to Iraq soon assured him that they, too, planned to operate in search and avoid mode.

    Corporal Bryan Casler was first deployed to Iraq with the Marines in 2003, at the time of the invasion. Posted to Afghanistan in 2004, he returned to Iraq for another tour of duty in 2005. He tells of other low-level versions of the tactic of avoidance: “There were times we would go to fix a radio that had been down for hours. It was purposeful so we did not have to deal with the bullshit from higher [ups]. In reality, we would go so we could just chill out, let the rest of the squad catch up on some rest as one stood guard. It’s mutual and people start covering for each other. Everyone knows what the hell’s going on.”

    Staff Sergeant Ronn Cantu, an infantryman who was deployed to Iraq from March 2004 to February 2005, and again from December 2006 to January 2008, said of some of the patrols he observed while there: “[They] wouldn’t go up and down the streets like they were supposed to. They would just go to a friendly compound with the Iraqi police or the Kurdish Peshmerga [militia] and stay at their compound and drink tea until it was time to go back to the base.”

    As a Stryker armored combat vehicle commander in Iraq from September 2004 to September 2005, Sergeant Seth Manzel had figured out a way to fabricate on screen the movement of their patrol and so could run computerized versions of a search and avoid mission. As he explained:

    “Sometimes if they called us up to go and do something, we would swiftly send computer reports that we were headed in that direction. On the map we would manually place our icon to the target location and then move it back and forth to make it appear as though we were actually on the ground and patrolling. This was not an isolated case. Everyone did it. Everyone would go and hide somewhere from time to time.”
    Former Sergeant Josh Simpson, who served as a counter-intelligence agent in Iraq from October 2004 to October 2005, said he witnessed instances of faked movement. “I knew soldiers who learned to simulate vehicular movement on the computer screen, to create the impression of being on patrol,” said Simpson. “There’s no doubt that people did it.”

    Saying “No” One at a Time

    “There was nothing to be done,” Corporal Casler says of his time in Iraq, “no progress to be made there. Dissent starts as simple as saying this is bullshit. Why am I risking my life?”

    Sometimes such feelings have permeated entire units and soldiers in them have refused to follow orders en masse. One of the more dramatic of these incidents occurred in July 2007. The 2nd Platoon of Charlie Company, 1st Battalion, 26th Infantry Regiment, in Baghdad had lost many men in its 11 months of deployment. After a roadside bomb killed five more, its members held a meeting and agreed that it was no longer possible for them to function professionally. Concerned that their anger might actually touch off a massacre of Iraqi civilians, they staged a quiet revolt against their commanders instead.

    Kelly Kennedy, a reporter with the Military Times embedded with Charlie Company prior to the revolt, described the shape the platoon members were in by that time: “[T]hey went right to mental health and they got sleeping medications, and they basically couldn’t sleep and reacted poorly. And then, they were supposed to go out on patrol again that day. And they, as a platoon, the whole platoon — it was about 40 people — said, ‘We’re not going to do it. We can’t. We’re not mentally there right now.'”

    In response, the military broke up the platoon. Each individual involved was also “flagged” so he would not get a promotion or receive any award due.

    To this day, troops in Iraq continue to be plagued by equipment and manpower shortages, and work long hours in an extreme climate. In addition, their stress levels are regularly raised by news from home of veterans returning to separations and divorces, and of a Veteran’s Administration often ill-equipped and unwilling to provide appropriate physical and psychological care to veterans.

    While no broad poll of troops has been conducted recently, a Zogby poll in February 2006 found that 72% of soldiers in Iraq felt the occupation should be ended within a year. My interviews with those recently back from Iraq indicate that levels of despair and disappointment are once again on the rise among troops who are beginning to realize, months after the Obama administration was ushered in, that hopes of an early withdrawal have evaporated.

    With the Afghan War heating up and the Iraq War still far from over, even if fighting there is at far lower levels than at its sectarian heights in 2006 and 2007, with stress and strain on the military still on the rise, dissent and resistance are unlikely to abate. In addition to small numbers of outright public refusals to deploy or redeploy, troops are going absent without official leave (AWOL) between deployments, and actual desertions may once again be on the rise. Certainly, there’s one strong indication that despair is indeed growing: the unprecedented numbers of soldiers who are committing suicide; the Army’s official suicide count rose to 133 in 2008, up from 115 in 2007, itself a record since the Pentagon began keeping suicide statistics in 1980. At least 82 confirmed or suspected suicides have been reported thus far in 2009, a pace that indicates another grim record will be set; and suicide, though seldom thought of in that context, is also a form of refusal, an extreme, individual way of saying no, or simply no more.

    According to Sergeant Simpson, here’s how a feeling of discontent and opposition creeps up on you while you’re on duty: The part of the war you’re involved in, interrogating Iraqis in his case, “doesn’t make any sense. You realize that the whole system is flawed and if that is flawed, then obviously the whole war is flawed. If the basic premise of the war is flawed, definitely the intelligence system that is supposed to lead us to victory is flawed. What that implies is that victory is not even a possibility.”

    After finishing his tour in Iraq, Simpson joined the Reserves because he believed it would grant him a two-year deferment from being called up, but he was called up anyway. In his own case, he says, “I thought to myself, I can’t do this anymore. First of all, it’s bad for me mentally because I’m doing something I loathe. Second, I’m participating in an organization that I wish to resist in every way I can.

    “So,” he says, “I just stopped showing up for drill, didn’t call my unit, didn’t give them any reason for it. I changed my telephone number and they did not have my address.” Eventually, he reached the end date of his contract and managed to graduate from Evergreen State University in Washington. “I don’t know if technically I’m still in the reserves,” he told me. “I don’t know what my situation is, but I don’t really care either. If I go to jail, I go to jail. I’d rather go to jail than go to Iraq.”

    Unready and Unwilling Reserves

    Sergeant Travis Bishop, who served 14 months in Baghdad with the 57th Expeditionary Signal Battalion – the same battalion as Agosto, who served north of the Iraqi capital — recently went AWOL from his station at Fort Hood, Texas, when his unit deployed to Afghanistan. He insists that it would be unethical for him to deploy to support an occupation he opposes on moral grounds.

    On his blog, he puts his position this way:

    “I love my country, but I believe that this particular war is unjust, unconstitutional and a total abuse of our nation’s power and influence. And so, in the next few days, I will be speaking with my lawyer, and taking actions that will more than likely result in my discharge from the military, and possible jail time… and I am prepared to live with that…. My father said, ‘Do only what you can live with, because every morning you have to look at your face in the mirror when you shave. Ten years from now, you’ll still be shaving the same face.’ If I had deployed to Afghanistan, I don’t think I would have been able to look into another mirror again.”
    I spoke with him briefly after he turned himself in at his base in early June. He said he’d chosen to follow Specialist Agosto’s example of refusal, which had inspired him, and wanted to be present at his post to accept the consequences of his actions. He, too, hoped others might follow his lead. (He and Agosto, now in similar situations, have become friends.)

    Agosto, whose hope has been to set an example of resistance for other soldiers, sees Bishop’s refusal to deploy to Afghanistan as a personal success and says, “I already feel vindicated for what I’m doing by his actions. It’s nice to see some immediate results.”

    His actions, he’s convinced, have affected the way his fellow soldiers are now looking at the war in Afghanistan. “The topic has come up a lot in conversation, with soldiers on base now asking, ‘What are we doing in Afghanistan? Why are we there?’ People feel compelled to bring this up when I’m around. Even the ones that disagree with me say it’s great what I’m doing, and that I’m doing what a lot of them don’t have the courage to do. If anything, the people I work with have now been treating me better than ever.”

    On May 27th, rejecting an Article 15 — a nonjudicial punishment imposed by a commanding officer who believes a member of his command has committed an offense under the Uniform Code of Military Justice — Agosto demanded to be court-martialed.

    According to Agosto, the Army has now begun the court martial process, but has not yet set a trial date. Bishop, too, awaits a possible court martial.

    On June 1st, a day when four U.S. soldiers were killed in Afghanistan, Agosto told me in a phone call from Fort Hood, “I haven’t had to disobey any orders lately. A sergeant asked me if it’d be okay if I had to follow orders, and I said no, and they didn’t force it.”

    Agosto and Bishop are hardly alone. In November 2007, the Pentagon revealed that between 2003 and 2007 there had been an 80% increase in overall desertion rates in the Army (desertion refers to soldiers who go AWOL and never intend to return to service), and Army AWOL rates from 2003 to 2006 were the highest since 1980. Between 2000 and 2006, more than 40,000 troops from all branches of the military deserted, more than half from the Army. Army desertion rates jumped by 42% from 2006 to 2007 alone.

    U.S. Army Specialist André Shepherd joined the Army on January 27, 2004. He was trained in Apache helicopter repair and sent first to Germany, then was stationed in Iraq from November 2004 to February 2005, before being based again in Germany. Shepherd went AWOL in southern Germany in April 2007 and lived underground until applying for asylum there in November 2008, making him the first Iraq veteran to apply for refugee status in Europe.

    He, too, has refused further military service because he feels morally opposed to the occupation of Iraq. While he awaits word from the German government and is still technically AWOL, Shepherd is being supported by Courage to Resist, a group based in Oakland, California, which actively assists soldiers who refuse to deploy to Iraq or Afghanistan.

    A counselor and administrative associate at that organization, Adam Szyper-Seibert, points out that “in recent months there has been a dramatic rise of nearly 200% in the number of soldiers that have contacted Courage to Resist.” Szyper-Seibert suspects this may reflect the decision of the Obama administration to dramatically increase efforts, troop strength, and resources in Afghanistan. “We are actively supporting over 50 military resisters like Victor Agosto,” Szyper-Seibert says. “They are all over the world, including André Shepherd in Germany and several people in Canada. We are getting five or six calls a week just about the IRR [Individual Ready Reserve] recall alone.”

    The IRR is composed of troops who have finished their active duty service but still have time remaining on their contracts. The typical military contract mandates four years of active duty followed by four years in the IRR, though variations on this pattern exist. Ready Reserve members live civilian lives and are not paid by the military, but they are required to show up for periodic musters. Many have moved on from military life and are enrolled in college, working civilian jobs, and building families.

    At any point, however, a member of the Ready Reserve can be recalled to active duty. This policy has led to the involuntary reactivation of tens of thousands of troops to fight the ongoing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Lieutenant General Jack C. Stultz, the Chief of the U.S. Army Reserve and Commanding General of the U.S. Army Reserve Command, told Congress on March 3rd that, since September 11, 2001, the Army has mobilized about 28,000 from the Reserves. There have been 3,724 Marines involuntarily recalled and mobilized during that same period, according to Major Steven O’Connor, a Marine Corps spokesman. (According to Major O’Connor, as of May 2009, the Marines are no longer recalling individuals from the IRR.)

    Ironically, under a new commander-in-chief whom many voters believed to be anti-war, the Army is continuing its Individual Ready Reserve recalls. “The IRR recall has not seen any change since Obama became president,” Sarah Lazare, the project coordinator for Courage to Resist, says. “It’s difficult to predict what the Obama administration’s policy will be in the future regarding the IRR, but definitely they haven’t made any moves to stop this practice.”

    Needing boots on the ground, according to Lazare, the military continues to fall back on the Ready Reserve system to fill the gaps: “Since these are experienced troops, many of them have already served tours in Iraq and Afghanistan.” Lazare adds, “When Obama announced his Afghanistan surge, we got a huge wave of calls from soldiers saying they didn’t want to be reactivated and to please help them not go.”

    The Future of Military Dissent

    Right now, acts of dissent, refusal, and resistance in the all-volunteer military remain small-scale and scattered. Ranging from the extreme private act of suicide to avoidance of duty to actual refusal of duty, they continue to consist largely of individual acts. Present-day G.I. resistance to the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan cannot begin to be compared with the extensive resistance movement that helped end the Vietnam War and brought an army of draftees to the point of near mutiny in the late 1960s. Nevertheless, the ongoing dissent that does exist in the U.S. military, however fragmented and overlooked at the moment, should not be discounted.

    The Iraq War boils on at still dangerous levels of violence, while the war in Afghanistan (and across the border in Pakistan) only grows, as does the U.S. commitment to both. It’s already clear that even an all-volunteer military isn’t immune to dissent. If violence in either or both occupations escalates, if the Pentagon struggles to add more boots on the ground, if the stresses and strains on the military, involving endless redeployments to combat zones, increase rather than lessen, then the acts of Agosto, Bishop, and Shepherd may turn out to be pathbreaking ones in a world of dissent yet to be experienced and explored. Add in dissatisfaction and discontent at home if, in the coming years, American treasure continues to be poured into an Afghan quagmire, and real support for a G.I. resistance movement may surface. If so, then the early pioneers in methods of dissent within the military will have laid the groundwork for a movement.

    “If we want soldiers to choose the right but difficult path, they must know beyond any shadow of a doubt that they will be supported by Americans.” So said First Lieutenant Ehren Watada of the U.S. Army, the highest ranking enlisted soldier to refuse orders to deploy to Iraq. (He finally had the military charges against him dropped by the Justice Department.) The future of any such movement in the military is now unknowable, but keep your eyes open. History, even military history, holds its own surprises.

  103. Troy Says:

  104. rosettasister Says:

    It’s funny, some of these Dutch posters really remind me of some of the posters here at RosettaSister!

    blunt dog says:
    3 juli 2009 om 23:48 July 3, 2009 at 23:48

    LOL! LOL!

    The Sea of Green mag in eb- modus staan in Iran.
    The Sea of Green may ebb mode in Iran.

    Buiten Iran bijten sympathisanten zich vast in de Iraanse Lente.
    Outside Iran supporters biting itself in the Iranian Spring.

    Zoals ik zei: zij vroegen om hulp, om The Sea of Green te promoten buiten Iran.

    As I said, they asked for help to The Sea of Green to promote outside Iran.

    En dat gebeurt ook. And that happens too.

    Vrije Menschen, die beseffen hoe kostbaar en breekbaar hun “vanzelfsprekende” vrijheid is.

    Free people, who realize how precious and fragile their “natural” freedom.

    De “zonde” van het achteloos omgaan met die vrijheid is wat Iran een sitting duck voor de knokploegen van het regime maakt.

    The “sin” of the negligent handling of that freedom in Iran is a sitting duck for the bone shifts of the regime is.

    De mullahs en de ongeinteresseerde burgers in het Westen bezondigen zich aan dezelfde minachting voor vrijheid, het kostbaarste wat een Mensch kan hebben.

    The mullahs and the non-interested citizens in the West bezondigen on the same contempt for freedom, the most valuable as a Man can have.

    Let’s keep this thing rolling! Let’s keep this thing rolling!

    We laten ze NIET in de steek. We let them in the lurch.

    De Telegraaf kwootte vanmorgen hun contactpersoon in Iran:
    De Telegraaf kwootte morning their contact in Iran:

    “Als het Westen niets doet is alles voor niets geweest”.

    “If the West is not doing anything for nothing”.

    Maar het Westen, dat zijn niet de Obambis en de Verhagens.

    But the West, that are not the Obambis and Verhagens.

    Het Westen, dat zijn jij en ik. The West, that is you and me.

    Dus geef dit niet op. So do not give up.

    Nooit. Never.

    Dan blijft hun hoop levend en zullen ze gaan beseffen dat ze het ZELF moeten doen.

    Then their hopes alive and they are aware that they have to play.

    Met onze steun en bemoediging. With our support and encouragement.

  105. rosettasister Says:


    Part II: This next one is the follow-up chat. (English translation appears first then the farsi text is copied and pasted.)

    A relative in Iran send me this asking me to pass it on so people get to know what is happening to those girls who get arrested in Iran. below I have the English translation and followed with the Farsi text as it was sent to me.

    Salam Setareh Jan,

    Tonight I went to visit the friend I told you about. She described her ordeal as much as she could but she was so distressed that she could not really talk about what had happened. She badly wants to forget the nightmare. I thought maybe you would like to know her story, please excuse the ugly language that I will use here, but this is exactly what she recounted:

    “I was standing in the square (baharestan) I was watching the crowd. All of a sudden a filthy bearded guy appeared in front of me and said, “what the hell are you doing here?”

    I said, “Nothing.”

    He said, “Let me see your purse.”

    Inside my purse he found my camera.

    He took me and forced me into a minibus.

    They immediately tied something around my eyes and started hitting me with all their might. When the minibus started moving they took out their electric baton and would keep it on my body for 4-5 seconds till it made me have epileptic-like fits.

    Then they took me to a villa. The tied our hands in the back and told us to kneel on the ground like in prayer (for 12 hours they kept us like that!)

    The interrogator entered the room and said, “You take Mousavi’s side??? He, whose wife was a whore before the revolution, Yes?? Now I will show you.

    During the interrogation (lets not get into how much they molested us) I was one of the lucky ones, when they interrogated the girl next to me the guy had his hand up her underwear.

    A pretty girl who was there was taken to another room the minute they saw her!

    They also tortured us mentally. They had put a chair there and had connected it to electricity. They asked, “Who paid you to come out and demonstrate?” There was a noise from the electrically charged chair, “tell me who your bosses are or I will have you for the night. In the end they made us sign a paper blind folded. It was 4:30 a.m. when they took, us to a square in the south of Tehran and let us go and asked us to open our blind folds in five minutes.

  106. rosettasister Says:

  107. rosettasister Says:

    blunt dog says:
    4 juli 2009 om 00:25 4 July, 2009 at 00:25

    De kern van deze opstand is de communicatie.
    The core of this insurgency is the communication.

    Die heeft haar veroorzaakt, de mullahs never saw it coming.
    This has caused the mullahs never saw it coming.

    Die communicatie tussen de opstandelingen en de byuitenwereld hebben de mullahs platgelegd.

    This communication between the insurgents and the mullahs byuitenwereld flat.

    Waarom? Why?

    Dat is hun grootste bedreiging. That is their biggest threat.

    Daarom kunnen we leren van deze crackdown.
    Therefore, we can learn from this crack down.

    Door de Iraniërs te helpen zich te beschermen tegen de Internetpolitie van de mullahs.

    By the Iranians to help protect against Internet Police of the mullahs.

    Wie deze revolutie begrijpt begrijpt ook wat er moet gebeuren om de Iraniërs en hun strijd te helpen.

    Who understands this revolution understands what needs to happen to the Iranians and their fight to help.

    Wat zeg jij? What say you?

  108. rosettasister Says:

    If you have an interest in these posts translated from Dutch.

    Click here:

    Then click “Translate”

  109. rosettasister Says:

    Now we’re talkin’! Where’s the rest of you, you old hippie hypocrites?!

    U2 – Sunday Bloody Sunday (live 02JUL09 @ Camp Nou, Barcelona)

  110. j.b. Says:

    Check this out. My apologies if a repeat.

    Hey, Ten, I am sorry I missed your show last night. I am glad to hear it went well, overall. 🙂
    *will attempt to listen to it on Sunday…….as tomorrow is a “work” day for moi*

  111. Tenacity Says:

    j.b. and Rose’s Gang…Have a great 4th!!! Keep it to a low roar. Find the nearest Tea Party.

  112. sdee Says:

    Lame Cherry’s take is that Sarah’s move was strategic and urgent – as long has she holds public office it was only a matter of time before the Leftist scum infiltrated and set her up for some sort of corruption charge or scandal.

    I was thinking about this – the Leftists unloaded everything they had on her. Vile media attacks. Leftist lawyers swarmed the state. Something like 14 indictments. When the smoke cleared – she is standing there dusting off here sleeves. So what Cherry says makes sense…if no skeleton can be found, plant one.

    What a disgusting state of affairs. Does any one here who remembers Watergate, ever think we’d be looking back at that as the good ole days?

  113. sdee Says:

    Grassroots effort to fire all Congressional incumbents.

    I guess this idea has been around a while but it is hard to avoid their main point:

    “In June of 2008, nearly 80% of us disapproved of Congress and in November of 2008 we re-elected 94% of you. Duh… ”

    Reboot Congress 2010.

    As voters, we face a prodigious challenge in the coming elections. The challenge itself has been with us for decades, and for decades we have failed to step up to it. Yes, the blame for the failed policies of the past lies squarely on the shoulders of the American voter – not George Bush. Likewise, the failed policies of the future (now being formulated in Washington by the Obama coalition as a doubling down on the failed policies of the past) are directly the responsibility of – yes – the American voter

  114. Tenacity Says:

    Must see, my apology if you have seen this series before.

  115. Fernley Girl Says:

    Troy, TY for the “MJ didn’t invent the MoonWalk”….Cab Calloway ROCKS just like Rose’s gang.

    Palin-Romney for 2012????

    Happy 4th to all!!!! Tomorrow I will celebrate our history and try to ignore our future.

  116. Tenacity Says:

    What do you know about Monsanto-Round up-genetically altered soy bean and corn? The next question is how much of Monsanto does Rockefeller own? I have not confirmed with my own research, but preliminary inquiries indicate quite a bit. This is a 10 part series. If you try to watch the long version, they try to make you load unneeded and perhaps unwanted software. So I just watched them in sequence as each subsequent video is prompted at the end of each segment.

    I also wonder if the Bushes’ recent acquisition of 100’s of thousands of acres in South America is related.

  117. Tenacity Says:

    By the beginning of 2011, the damage will have long been done. I’m all for kicking them all out, but the newbies would have to be statesmen and Obama will have to be in jail for fraud and/or treason, preferably declared ineligible so that everything enacted will be void, invalid and rescinded.

  118. Tenacity Says:

    Fernley Girl Says:
    July 4, 2009 at 5:44 am

    Happy 4th to all!!!! Tomorrow I will celebrate our history and try to ignore our future.
    Our history up to just before the Civil War I can celebrate. At least that portion of it generated by a small minority that took control. Our history, especially since 1913, I’m having a lot of trouble with. That is now that I know the truth about the police state that I was born into. I’m getting pretty disgusted with all the lies that I was fed throughout my life from the press, the schools and from the lying deceiving thieves in the District of Criminals. Tomorrow, I will not try to forget anything. I will be speaking to and educating every person that will listen. It is time for good people to stand up and get their heads out of the sand.

  119. Tenacity Says:

    I should have embedded the Monsanto series part I:

  120. sdee Says:

    So that’s frankenfood Ten. Always wondered what Lame Cherry was talking about. Guess I could have googled it.

    (that reminds me – I suggest trying Bing. Like the early days of Google, I usually find what I am looking for on the first few pages. But mainly, Google’s cozy arrangement with our new regime kinda creeps me out, along with their ability to censor and sandbox.)

  121. sdee Says:

    but the newbies would have to be statesmen

    Ten, what do you have in mind? Sure I’d like experience but a random drawing would produce better legilators than the incestuous bunch occupying the Capitol now.

  122. sdee Says:

    Bushes’ recent acquisition of 100’s of thousands of acres in South America

    Ten, do you have some links on this?

  123. sdee Says:

    I remember seeing that Tarpley video along time ago Ten. Interesting to watch it again and line it up with current events like Obama freeing the Uighurs, the “good war” in Afgahnistan, making deals with Russia, Ian uprising, and soon he is heading off to Syria.

  124. CJ Says:

    Happy 4th all good Americans here on Rose’s excellent board. If you have some time today go to homepage and check out the 5 best renditions of the national anthem. If you don’t cry then your made of stone. Also make sure you check out the honorable mention one at the bottom. This country only has racism if the msm pushes it in our faces. Left alone, we do a good job of loving one and other. In case you can’t access the site, the are:

    5) Cactus cuties
    4) Grateful Dead
    3) Jimi Hendrix
    2) Marvin Gaye
    1) Whitney Houston 1991

    Terrific line-up and Whitney’s is one of those that will never be topped, imo.

    Last one is a big remembrance for me as I was at a playoff game that year and the patriotism in a sold out stadium was awesome. Flags waving everywhere. Great memories.

  125. CJ Says:

    Just one more inspiration: John Adams HBO–The Declaration of Independence.

  126. rosettasister Says:

    10:12 AM Pacific

    Good morning, sdee and CJ!

    Happy Fourth, all!

  127. rosettasister Says:

    Appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world

    We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in

    General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the

    world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by

    Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and

    declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free

    and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to

    the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the

    State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as

    Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War,

    conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all

    other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And

    for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection

    of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our

    Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

  128. rosettasister Says:

    This is a pretty cool page.

    Scroll down to “Columns, Podcasts & Blogs From Our KTKZ Personalities”

    If you get a chance, please listen to Hugh Hewitt interviewing Professor Harry Jaffa. It’s a must for history buffs.

    Be sure to listen in order – Hour 3 is at top of list.


    See also:

  129. rosettasister Says:

    20 people convicted were hanged on Saturday near the Iranian capital!

    Last updates…

  130. rosettasister Says:

  131. rosettasister Says:

    McCain, R-Ariz., said the U.S. has a moral obligation to publicly denounce the Iranian government and support Iranians who feel cheated by the election.

    “Today, we stand with the millions of Iranians who brave batons, imprisonment and gunfire to have their voices heard and their votes counted,” McCain said. “They do not ask us to arm them or come to their assistance with anything other than public declarations of solidarity, and public denunciations of the tyrants who oppress them. We have a moral obligation to do so.”

    Iran’s leadership has tried to erase doubts about the legitimacy of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad by portraying the unrest as sparked by foreign meddling. Protesters say the June 12 election was fraudulent.

  132. rosettasister Says:

    Palin decision mystifies some, thrills others

    NATIONAL REACTION: Democrats cite “bizarre behavior”; backers rally.

    Palin’s staunchest supporters in the anti-abortion movement, however, said they were pleased and appreciate continuing to have a high-profile role model who opposes abortion. They firmly believe that whatever she does next will have an “equal and profound impact,” said Marjorie Dannenfelser, who co-founded the Team Sarah social networking Web site popular with Palin supporters who oppose abortion.

    “Sarah Palin has always been an intensely independent woman — always true to her faith, her family and call to public service,” Dannenfelser said.

    And maybe Palin doesn’t want to run for president, said Fred Malek, a prominent Republican fundraiser who got to know Palin during the presidential campaign and has been advising her since then.

    It was obvious she was dissatisfied with her role as governor, Malek said, although he was not aware she planned to step down and did not suggest she do so.

    “I did have the impression she was not happy in the role in she was in,” Malek said. “We see her through a political prism, but I think we sometimes forget she’s a wife and mother of five kids and has responsibilities that are very dear to her.”

    No matter what path Palin chooses, Malek said, she has plenty of options, including serving as a powerful fundraiser for other governors and like-minded Republican candidates she believes in. A run at the presidency may not be in her future, he said.

    “I take her at her word,” he said. “I don’t think she’s made any plans in that regard.”

    But Malek noted Palin’s star power and the way she can electrify some Republican crowds nationally.

    He recently escorted Palin and her husband to the Senate-House dinner, an annual Republican fundraiser in Washington, D.C., for congressional candidates. Despite the controversy over her appearance at the event — she had been asked to speak at the dinner but was replaced with former House Speaker Newt Gingrich after a mix-up over whether she would attend — Palin was the star attraction, Malek said.

    “Our table was mobbed,” he said. “I felt like a celebrity.”

    William Kristol, editor of The Weekly Standard, told Fox News that Palin’s resignation now, three years before the next presidential election, “is real unconventional.”

    “It’s a huge gamble — but some of her gambles have paid off in the past,” he said.

  133. rosettasister Says:

    Lamar lawmaker, House leader from Joplin at odds on matter

    Is President Barack Obama’s citizenship still in question?

    State Rep. Ed Emery, a Lamar Republican who plans to run for the state Senate, thinks so, and says for that reason that he this week attended an event on behalf of his constituents.

    His attendance Wednesday at an event at which Orly Taitz, a California dentist and lawyer, continued to challenge Obama’s citizenship has Emery at opposites with House Speaker Ron Richard, a Joplin Republican, on the matter.

    “I don’t think it’s an issue,” said Richard, who is known for blunt reactions. “I’m not concerned about that. We have no jurisdiction to look at something like that, and I wasn’t consulted about this meeting.’’

  134. rosettasister Says:

    In Jesus Name, God Be With Our Fighting Men and Women And Their Allies! So Be It!

    Marines march in grueling Afghan sun for July 4

  135. rosettasister Says:

    Does Obama recognize the de facto leader of Iran? Of Honduras?

    Honduras leaves OAS after body decries coup

  136. rosettasister Says:

    Go WordPress!

    New Egyptian blog calls for release of Iranian detainees

  137. rosettasister Says:

    David Horowitz nails it again!

    July 4 and Americans in Arms

    Meeting the young men and women at Camp Pendelton I thought of all those war critics who delude themselves or others into believing that they can support the troops while attacking their mission.

    It can’t be done.

    As Colonel Folsom said to me — that’s like saying you can support the camp guards at Auschwitz but not their mission.

    You can’t.

    And you can’t tell a 19 year old risking his life in Anbar or Khandahar that his mission is based on lies and deceit, that he is fighting for oil and not for freedom, that he is an occupier and an aggressor, and not sap his fighting morale and his will to win, and therefore to survive.

  138. rosettasister Says:

    Saddam Hussein Talks to the FBI:

    Twenty Interviews and Five Conversations with “High Value Detainee # 1” in 2004

  139. rosettasister Says:

    US forces repel Taliban suicide assault, kill 22 Taliban fighters

    By Bill RoggioJuly 4, 2009 12:42 PM

  140. rosettasister Says:

    Baitullah Mehsud

    South Waziristan Operation : Operation Rah-e-Nijat – Lieutenant Colonel Tahir Shaheed – Part 3

  141. rosettasister Says:

    Shams Momand reports from Peshawar on Pakistan’s worst terrorists, including Baitullah Mehsud, the chief of the Pakistani Taliban. (June 30, 2009)

  142. rosettasister Says:

    As far as I can tell, Obama’s policy in Iraq and in Afghanistan — Pakistan appears to be right on target.

    Why is he so far off base in Iran?!

    • JULY 3, 2009, 8:21 A.M. ET

    U.S. Missile Strike Kills 15 in Pakistan

    Missiles fired from U.S. Predator drones killed at least 15 people at a militant training facility in the South Waziristan tribal region, a stronghold of Baitullah Mehsud, the chief of the Pakistan Taliban.

    Three missiles hit the camp in Mochikel village in an area that has been the scene of recent fighting between Pakistani security forces and Taliban militants. Another missile hit a suspected militant hideout in the same area. A security official said at least 20 people also were wounded in the two strikes.

    The camp in an abandoned seminary was run by Mufti Noor Wali, a senior Taliban commander to train militants for suicide attacks. A senior security official said Mr. Wali , a close aide of Mr. Mehsud, was the target of the attack but it is not clear whether he was killed.

  143. rosettasister Says:

    Security source: #iranelection protest planned for tonight, 1000s rallied in Behesht-e-Zahra cemetary July 2. Reported clashes in Rasht

    RT @nytimeskristof A couple of US journalists are marking July 4 in North Korean prison: Laura Ling, Euna Lee. Let’s not forget them7 minutes ago from web

  144. rosettasister Says:

    People using High Peak to cut the electrcity and chant against regime, tonight some part of city went in Black Out +15 mins.

    My interview in Corriere della Sera: “+100 ppl shoot dead in Iran in 3 weeks”

  145. rosettasister Says:

    “Before I go, I would like to thank all those who hear our chants, from all over the world.

    Your kind words in support encourage us and warm our hearts.

    Thank you!

    We shout today in our fight for freedom.”

    Tehran – Night chants 3rd july 2009 Part 2

  146. Tenacity Says:

    sdee Says:
    July 4, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    Ten, do you have some links on this?
    I received that information from a reliable personal friend in Texas that is close to and monitors the Bush family. My guy says that approx. 900,000 acres have been acquired. It was originally reported that they were buying property for some other organization in Paraguay. The Bush girls actually went there to finalize the deal. Here is a link to one report that was just the first piece of the acquisition.

    I will pull more information and report as I obtain additional info over the next few days.

  147. rosettasister Says:

    Now his wife knows how many American women have felt toward their fellow “feminist” Americans! Old hippie hypocrites!

    blunt dog says:
    4 juli 2009 om 21:15 4 July, 2009 at 21:15

    Mijn vrouw is woest op haar feministische medevrouwen in het Westen.
    My wife is furious at her fellow feminist women in the West.

    Omdat ze weigeren te luisteren naar hun Iraanse zusters.
    Because they refuse to listen to their Iranian sisters.

  148. rosettasister Says:

    RT Ahmadinejad, enjoy the calm, the storm is coming to blow u away

    RT: Mousavi: The assembly of teachers and scientists of “Qom” cleric school, declare this election to be illegitimate.

    RT BBC: Miliband tried talk with Iranian counterpart=unable to do so

    RT @oxfordgirl Families of detained met Khatami yesterday, due to meet with Rafsanjani not sure where and when

    RT @lotfan Rafsanjani: No conscious sole would accept with the current situation

    Good article: +link to petition
    Out of sight, Iran remains on the brink

  149. Tenacity Says:

    Here is another story on the Paraguay purchase. I’m digging for something more recent.×3192723

  150. rosettasister Says:

    Biden spends July 4 with son, other troops in Iraq

    Violence remains at low levels in Iraq compared with previous years, but a series of bombings that killed scores of people raised concerns about the run-up to the parliamentary elections.

    At least 447 Iraqi civilians were killed in June, double the toll from the previous month, according to an Associated Press tally.

    *** Sunni lawmaker Hashim Yahya called on Biden to pressure neighboring countries to stop interfering in Iraqi affairs, a reference to mainly Shiite Iran, which the U.S. military also alleges is supporting violence in Iraq. ***

    But, he said, Biden could not force Iraqi factions to resolve their differences.

    “Biden can do nothing to impose concessions or national reconciliation on the Iraqis unless the politicians decide to put an end to their disputes,” he said. “But we welcome any efforts by Biden to help Iraqi politicians resolve their differences for the sake of Iraq.”

  151. rosettasister Says:

    Iran National Strike Days (July 6-8) 15-17 Tir – National Protest Day (July 9th) 18 Tir

    Report: Massive Executions Sunday In Iran (Confirmed) We Need External Intervention

  152. rosettasister Says:

    Obama — Look to your soul for the answer.

    If U need Humanitarian support in Tehran: Emb of Argentina Darrus Avenida Yar Mohammadi GHOO 11 Phone 2122577432

    Iran Martyr Salar Tahmasbi, 27, bullet in the forehead, June20, burried sec254 Behesht Zahra

    CNN: Rafansani doubts ‘any wakened consciousness’ would be ‘satisfied’ with election aftermath.

    ki mitoone joz mano to dardeh maro chareh koneh? we can make this happen. We can change all this

  153. rosettasister Says:

    This man is being punished through torture. His crime is unknown, whatever it is, no one deserves such punishment. He keeps yellng “please im sorry!…lay me down please.”

    because they are lashing his legs,he is asking the dirty brainwashed, good for nothing mullah to allow him to lay down so it wont be as painful, the mullah replies with, “this is not for you, you have no say”. they start counting “67…” I think it would go to100.

    I think the young man being lashed, is Kord. I Dont know exactly. Very hard to hear things clearly, especially through his painful screams….:'(

    There is a lot more being said. If anyone else would like to interpret, it would be nice.

  154. Tenacity Says:

    Okay, where there is smoke, there is fire. It is becoming quite apparent to me that Rockefeller/Bildeberg/NWO have already obtained a monopoly on food production in the world. It is being reported through personal contacts that Rockefeller owns a substantial, if not controlling interest, in Monsanto. The ownership is masked by several layers of other entities’ ownership. Here is an article that should scare the HELL out of everyone.

  155. rosettasister Says:

  156. Tenacity Says:

    This is the kind of mafia tactics that the illuminati have used since ancient times:

    If the pieces of this puzzle are not starting to fit for you, then don’t just read…investigate.

  157. rosettasister Says:

    IRAN: Iranian Protesters stand up to Riot Police ~ July 4th

    Although the news is no longer reporting, the Iranians are STILL protesting and being killed!

  158. rosettasister Says:

    10 years old boy shot by Iranian regime (july 4th 2009– please share)

  159. rosettasister Says:

    Obama! Talk to The Executioner of Iran-Lose My Vote! That Simple! At Least My Vote Counts Here! Happy 4th of July!

  160. rosettasister Says:

  161. rosettasister Says:

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  162. Katie Says:

    We just got back from our local Tea Party. At least 500 people and a couple hundred flags and signs. Talk about a taste of Americana!

    We started with a Pledge of Allegiance (I cried).

    Followed by singing God Bless America (I cried).

    Lots of speeches, signs and flags. Moments of silence to remember those that served so that we could live free. (I cried).

    It ended with Lee Greenwood’s “God Bless the USA” (I cried).

    I hate what is being done to our country, but these gatherings give me optimism that people are waking up and taking action. I was proud to be among so many fellow ‘domestic terrorists’ who quote the Founding Fathers, the Declaration of Independence, and the Constitution.

    Happy Independence Day to all!

  163. Tenacity Says:

    Folks, I’m not chasing down this rabbit hole for no reason. The Monsanto angle even ties in the micro-finance game that the Dunhams were in that got S/Ob involved with the globalist crowd in the first place (see the video series I posted above). This is essentially following the money. Don’t breeze over this. It demonstrates the connections between the Clinton’s, Bushes, banksters and all the globalists. This is not make believe or a fictional novel. These people are going for numerous world monopolies and move their cronies in and out of key government positions at will to facilitate ruling the world. How can they better grab us by the gonads than take control of the world food supply?

    This ties a lot of things together. Read this lengthy article to fill in a lot of pieces of the puzzle:

    Monsanto buys ‘Terminator’ Seeds Company
    By F. William Engdahl, August 27, 2006
    The real interest in Jacoby’s Delta & Pine Land

    By now the question comes, what is so attractive about the Stephens Group’s Delta & Pine Land that Monsanto makes its second bid to add it to its global genetically-engineered seeds empire?

    It’s the patent Delta & Pine Land, together with the US Government, holds–Patent No. 5,723,765, titled, Control of Plant Gene Expression. The USDA through its Agricultural Research Service (USDA-ARS) in Lubbock, Texas, as already noted, has worked with Delta & Pine Land since 1983 to perfect Terminator GMO technology. Patent No. 5,723,765 is the patent for Terminator technology.

    One year later, in early 1999 Monsanto, the largest producer of GMO seeds and related agri-chemicals, announced it was acquiring Delta & Pine Land along with Delta’s Terminator patents.

    In October 1999, however, following a worldwide storm of protest against Terminator seeds that threatened the very future of the Rockefeller Foundation’s ‘Gene Revolution’ Dr. Gordon Conway, President of the prestigious Rockefeller Foundation, met privately with the Board of Directors of Monsanto. Conway convinced Monsanto that for the long-term future of their GMO Project, they must go public to indicate to a worried world that it would not ‘commercialize’ Terminator. Development of the genetic revolution and genetic engineering as a research area had been the project of the Rockefeller Foundation over decades, along with researchers in the family’s Rockefeller University.

    The Anglo-Swiss Syngenta joined with Monsanto in declaring solemnly that they would also not commercialize their work on GURTS or Terminator suicide seed technology.

    That 1999 announcement took enormous pressure off of Monsanto and the agribusiness GMO giants, allowing them to advance the proliferation of their patented GMO seeds globally. Terminator could come later, once farmers and entire national agriculture areas like North America or Argentina or India had been taken over by GMO crops. Then, of course, it would be too late. The Rockefeller-Monsanto 1999 press conference was clearly application of classic Lenin Bolshevik tactics—Two Steps Forward, One Step Back…

  164. KoolAid_Free_Lexi Says:

    A couple years ago, my mom was telling me about this — sort of. She didn’t call it terminator seeds tho. We didn’t think it was this sinister.

    We both like to do a bit of gardening. She just said that you can’t throw your seeds out of your produce and have them spring up anymore. That they’ve been altered not to produce.

    I’m going to send her some of the info you’ve shared, Ten. TY!

  165. sdee Says:

    Here is another story on the Paraguay purchase. I’m digging for something more recent.

    Thanks Ten!

  166. rosettasister Says:

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