Tears for Joy


tears for joy



If we lived in a world without tears
How would bruises find
The face to lie upon
How would scars find skin
To etch themselves into
How would broken find the bones

If we lived in a world without tears
How would heartbeats
Know when to stop
How would blood know
Which body to flow outside of
How would bullets find the guns

If we lived in a world without tears
How would misery know
Which back door to walk through
How would trouble know
Which mind to live inside of
How would sorrow find a home

If we lived in a world without tears
How would bruises find
The face to lie upon
How would scars find skin
To etch themselves into
How would broken find the bones

If we lived in a world without tears
How would bruises find
The face to lie upon
How would scars find skin
To etch themselves into
How would broken find the bones

How would broken find the bones
How would broken find the bones









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168 Responses to “Tears for Joy”

  1. sliderblaze Says:


  2. rosettasister Says:

    Second only to slider!

  3. Troy Says:


  4. rosettasister Says:


    You may be able to find more like that here:


  5. rosettasister Says:

    You owe me a coke!

  6. Troy Says:

    Whaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!…..Tird…oops, I meant third

  7. rosettasister Says:

    Off to watch True Blood — if only.


  8. sliderblaze Says:

    ah yes, democracy seems to have made an Iranian Sandwich. So it seems that the I’ll hold your hand if you unclinch your fist is working out really well for our fine “natural born” friend

  9. j.b. Says:

    slider, twitterfall? Whutzat? I just signed up for twitter.
    I don’t know why.

  10. j.b. Says:

    LW has a fantastic voice! I just looooove one of her songs. I wish I could recall which one it is. The first time I heard it I swore I would never forget it. My mind is becoming a field of mush. *sigh*

  11. j.b. Says:

    Can anyone tell if this is really live?

  12. j.b. Says:

    Okay, no, but it was at one time………

    lol, Rose I just got your, “if only” comment!
    Toldja, Brain=Mush. I am so glad that the ice cream is almost gone. Note to self (and all who give a shit about me) STOP buying me ice cream! TIA. I must say, I never used to like Neopolitan…….that has all changed as of late.
    Dang it! I’m alone at Rose’s.

  13. rosettasister Says:

    “Note to self (and all who give a shit about me) STOP buying me ice cream!”

    This is some funny shit, j.b.!

  14. rosettasister Says:

    (Reposting these links from previous thread. And I’ll try and update these as well.)

    If you’re trying stay updated, may I suggest these sites?





  15. j.b. Says:

    🙂 g’night. See yous on the morrow.

  16. rosettasister Says:

    Sweet dreams!

  17. rosettasister Says:

    The Latest From Michael Ledeen and MSM


    Very few Americans have followed Iran more closely than Michael Ledeen.


    As the Khamenei/Ahmadinejad faction closes its grip on outbound information flows, Ledeen continues to get information which is far more likely to be reliable than any other American source.

    The New York Times’ report of a ” bitter rift among Iran’s ruling clerics” would be great news except no one –no one– outside of the regime is in a position to be able to verify such a report.


    The Washington Post notes “a rare show of criticism” of Khamenei by “the speaker of Iran’s parliament, Ali Larijani,” but that is also a very thin bit of evidence on which to build a deep division within the ruling elite.


    If any western government has reliable information on what is happening throughout the country, it would be a great assistance to the protestors to find some way of pushing that out into the mainstream and doing so in a fashion that made it credible.

  18. rosettasister Says:

    Realtime results for #iranelection


  19. rosettasister Says:


    RT @kaiserArny: Her Name Was Neda Agha Soltan http://digg.com/d1uT0B?t #IranElection #Neda #gr88 PLEASE RT

  20. rosettasister Says:

    Please spread the faces of Basiji:


  21. rosettasister Says:

    This is bloody, people.

  22. rosettasister Says:

    Can’t tell when this is from. Sunday?

  23. rosettasister Says:

    This video captures the tense scene as two individuals are arrested in a small alley. At one point, the police seem to place a shoe in one of men’s faces. Later, they have him pick up the shoes with his teeth and carry them with him when they move him.

  24. rosettasister Says:

  25. rosettasister Says:

    Iran – lbci report – Vera Bou Monsef – Montage : Tamara Maatouk – 21/06/2009

  26. rosettasister Says:

    Iran’s Foreign Ministry Press Conference – 06/22/09

  27. rosettasister Says:




  28. rosettasister Says:


    Neda funeral ceremony tomorrow 4:30 pm MASJED e REZA, NILOOFAR SQ.


  29. rosettasister Says:


    if you are chased on street go to embassy of Sweden: 2, Nastaran Street, Pasdaran Avenue (North of Dr. Lavasani)

  30. rosettasister Says:


    #Neda’s family is forbbiden from holding a funeral or a wake at the mosque. Iran’s government blaming death on israeli assasin.

  31. rosettasister Says:


    • Iran special extended



    We have increased the bandwidth of our FreeFreedom offer for people connecting from Iran to 512 kbit/s, and time restrictions are not applicable. A package will automatically be added to your account when you connect from an IP address registered to Iran (this may take 10 minutes).

    Best of luck to all those fighting for a free society! But keep a cool head, violence is never the answer. The freedom to use information sources and the freedom to speak up and make yourself heard without repression, however, are human rights and they are universal. Defending both is one of the finest causes.

    (Oh, and I’ve just fixed a bug that would keep those from auto-upgrading their accounts who have logged in shortly before we have introduced our special offer. You should all get upgraded now. You might need to disconnect and reconnect though.)

  32. rosettasister Says:

    “But keep a cool head, violence is never the answer.”

    It just might be when they start bashing heads in!

  33. rosettasister Says:


    RT there is no fear here now..i feel it in the air. we all are ready to become martyrs. why live if you are not free.no point.

  34. rosettasister Says:

    Iranians Consider Replacing Khomeini, Ahmadinejad

    Reported: 09:50 AM – Jun/22/09


    Iranian religious clerks and members of the Assembly of Experts are considering forming a new leadership to replace the Iranian Supreme

    Leader Ayatollah Khomeini or Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, according to the Arab news network Al-Arabiya.

    According to the report, the religious leadership wants to end the massive protests that have claimed the lives of dozens of Iranians since the national elections in the country just over a week ago.

    The movement is being led by Ayatollah Rafsanjani, one of Iran’s most powerful men.

    Police arrested five of his family members on Saturday, including his eldest daughter who was later released.

    Discussions of replacing Iran’s leaders have taken place in meetings in Qom and include Jawad al-Shahristani, representative of Iraq Shiite leader Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani.

  35. rosettasister Says:



  36. rosettasister Says:

    There’s just no way of knowing if this image is indeed Neda.

    Thought I’d take a chance anyhow.


    Neda Sultan “the voice” #Neda image photo picture girl shot killed Tehran Iran martyr

  37. rosettasister Says:

    Seems to be correct.

    Neda’s correct photo


  38. rosettasister Says:

    UNCONFIRMED: Rafsanjani’s has prepared a letter signed 40 high ranking clerics against Khamanei and recent crack down on protesters


  39. rosettasister Says:

    Sleep well, good people.

    Or as well as can be expected.


  40. NeConservative Says:


    Is ATF using ‘heavy-handed tactics’ on border state gun owners?
    gun rights examiner ^ | 21 June, 2009 | David Codrea

    Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 6:35:20 AM by marktwain

    Do you mind answering a few questions…? As we found out yesterday, NRA has issued a statement on the GAO Mexican “crime gun” trafficking report. Their bottom line:

    For American gun owners, the battle will be to make sure that politicians who see an opportunity to advance their gun ban agenda do not use Mexico as an excuse to sacrifice our Second Amendment rights.

    True enough. But it was the second link in this morning’s email from their Institute for Legislative Action that really grinds my gears: “In Border States, BATFE Asks: ‘May We See Your Guns?'”

    NRA-ILA has recently received several calls from NRA members in border states who have been visited or called by agents of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. In some cases, agents have asked to enter these people’s homes, and requested serial numbers of all firearms the members possess.


    [A]gents were making inquiries based on the number of firearms these NRA members had recently bought, and in some cases the agents said they were asking because the members had bought types of guns that are frequently recovered in Mexico.

    ILA tells us in some cases, there may be a real investigation going on, but in others, it may simply be a matter of “trying to ‘profile’ potentially suspicious purchases.” Why do I envision Inspector Clouseau saying “I suspect everyone and I suspect no one”?

    But more ominously:

    [S]ome of the agents have used heavy-handed tactics. One reportedly demanded that a gun owner return home early from a business trip, while another threatened to “report” an NRA member as “refusing to cooperate.”

    Oh, really?

    Nicer people than I am, ILA reminds us “There is nothing wrong with politely, but firmly, asserting your rights.” See, it’s that “politeness” thing, when someone is trying to intimidate me, that sticks in my craw .

    They also advise “Whether contacting a local attorney or NRA, be sure to provide as many details as possible, including the date, time, and location, agent’s name, and specific questions asked.”

    I’m of the school that says answer no questions and do not talk to the authorities except under advice and supervision of counsel. If you haven’t seen it already, I strongly urge you to take the time to watch this video, “Don’t Talk to the Police,” by Professor James Duane of Regent Law.

  41. NeConservative Says:

    Hmm, Bush was right, whodathunkit?


    Study Bites Man?
    Today must have been an especially busy news day because so far there is surprisingly little interest in a new CEP analysis showing some good news for the No Child Left Behind policy… Is it too cynical to think it would be bigger news if it went the other way? And hard to make the case that CEP is in the tank for the last administration, in fact the opposite case has been made… Ed Week does pick it up here.

  42. sliderblaze Says:

    dont know if i ever talked about crime in my city here. but lancaster made nation news again, this time….. for the number of cameras in the city, pegged as the most watched small city in the nation.

    Camera’s, doing the job the police shoulda been doing a long time ago.

    on drudge, linked the the la times

  43. NeConservative Says:

    Looks like this petition needs some help


    Support Growing for Walpin Investigation
    GoPetition.com ^ | June 22, 2009 | Richard Jarzynka

    Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 8:39:52 AM by YaZhynka

    Investigate firing of Gerald Walpin

    Petition now has 326 Signatures

    Petition: We the undersigned respectfully demand that the Judiciary Committees of the United States Senate and House of Representatives formally investigate the firing of Inspector General Gerald Walpin by President Obama.

    SIGN the PETITION: http://gopetition.com/online/28746.html

  44. NeConservative Says:


    Marco Rubio lands big-name supporters for Senate campaign
    Miami Herald ^ | 06/19/09 | BETH REINHARD

    Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 8:33:03 AM by MattAMatt

    The fundraiser set to be hosted Wednesday by elected officials and business leaders at the posh Biltmore Hotel in Coral Gables sounds like countless other receptions benefiting Florida’s political establishment.

    But the invitation topped with bold-faced names is for Marco Rubio, the upstart candidate for the U.S. Senate daring to challenge the popular Gov. Charlie Crist for the GOP nomination.

    Rubio has been mostly raising money over the Internet. Crist has been attending swanky events almost nightly this month.

    Their lopsided fundraising battle and poll ratings suggest Rubio’s campaign will not end well, but the former Miami lawmaker posted a good week on the campaign trail.

    He burnished his credentials as a fiscal hawk with an endorsement from U.S. Sen. James DeMint of South Carolina, one of the most conservative members of Congress. He won a straw poll, 73-9, at a meeting of the Pasco County Republican Party, which backed Crist in a rare primary endorsement in 2006.

    And an MSNBC interviewer introduced him on television Friday as ”GOP’s Barack Obama” and “the man who might be the answer to the GOP’s problems.”

    While none of these developments come close to signaling a real threat to Crist, they suggest Rubio’s campaign is not a lost cause.

    ”I think that the debate is healthy, and nobody in this country, the last time I checked, is entitled to anything,” said state Rep. Steve Bovo of Hialeah, a host of Rubio’s upcoming fundraiser. His wife also did consulting work with Rubio after the former House speaker left office last year.

    Other hosts of Rubio’s upcoming fundraiser include Reps. Gaston Cantens, Eric Fresen, Carlos Lopez-Cantera and David Rivera; Miami-Dade County Commissioner Rebeca Sosa, and former U.S. Attorney Dexter Lehtinen, the husband of U.S. Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen. Prominent businessmen such as developer Sergio Pino, car dealer Norman Braman and sugar baron Pepe Fanjul are also listed on the invitation.

  45. NeConservative Says:


    RNC warns of ‘lights out’ due to climate change bill
    The Hill ^

    Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 8:09:03 AM by Sub-Driver

    RNC warns of ‘lights out’ due to climate change bill @ 8:48 am by Michael O’Brien

    It’ll be “lights out” for consumers if the climate change bill before Congress is allowed to become law, the Republican National Committee (RNC) warned Monday.

    In a PR blitz to kick off the week, the RNC released a web video and sent props to lawmakers on Capitol Hill, warning them to not “tax our lights out” by way of passing the Waxman-Markey bill.

    The web video shows several people using appliances around their homes before the power goes out, and they have to light up a candle, after which they facetiously “thank” President Obama.

    “Don’t let Democrats tax your lights out,” a narrator says. “tTell them NO to Cap and Trade.”

    Additionally, the RNC sent a candle to House members this morning with a note attached.

    “If Democrats pass ‘Cap and Tax,’ this is all the energy American families and businesses will be able to afford,” the note says. “Don’t tax our lights out!”

    “The so-called ‘cap and trade’ plan proposed by President Obama and Congressional Democrats is nothing but a multi-billion dollar national energy tax on every American family, small business and family farm,” RNC Chairman Michael Steele said in a statement.

    The new salvo in the debate over Waxman-Markey comes as Congress reaches its deadline to finish the self-imposed deadline to pass the climate change overhaul in the House.

    The bill, a top priority for the Obama administration and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), has hit snags from GOP opposition, and some opposition from centrist Democrats — especially those on the House Agriculture Committee.

  46. Troy Says:

    This is Neda


  47. Troy Says:

    More Neda


  48. Troy Says:

    Neda’s grave


  49. NeConservative Says:

    I really hope they do go it alone, if the Dems want it so bad, let them pass it themselves, it will be their death nell.


    Democrats may go it alone on gov’t insurance plan
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    Slideshow:Health Care Play Video Video:Republican Outline for Health Care Reform ABC News Play Video Video:George’s Bottom Line on Health Care ABC News Reuters – US President Barack Obama speaks about the health care system at the annual meeting of the American Medical … By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR, Associated Press Writer Ricardo Alonso-zaldivar, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 17 mins ago
    WASHINGTON – Democrats generally are standing behind their position that a health care system overhaul must include a government-sponsored plan that would be available to middle-class workers and their families.

    A key Democrat, New York Sen. Chuck Schumer, said this option now seems even more of a necessity in view of unsuccessful behind-the-scenes attempts to get a deal with Republicans on nonprofit co-ops as an alternative to a public plan.

    Schumer told The Associated Press Sunday night that those efforts have proved frustrating, saying that he and his Democratic colleagues now may have to go it alone.

    The co-ops were seen as perhaps the last hope for compromise on the notion of a public health care option, a contentious issue that threatens any remaining prospects of bipartisan support for President Barack Obama’s sweeping plan to remake the health care system.

    “I don’t think I could say with a straight face that this (co-op proposal) is at all close to a nationwide public option,” Schumer, D-N.Y., said Sunday. “Right now, this co-op idea doesn’t come close to satisfying anyone who wants a public plan.”

    The public plan that most Democrats envision would be offered alongside private plans through a new kind of insurance purchasing pool called an exchange. Individuals and small businesses would be able to buy coverage through exchanges, but eventually businesses of any size might be able to join.

    Proponents say the option of a public plan in the marketplace would put a brake on costs and check the power of insurers. But Republicans, insurers and many business leaders say a government plan could drive private insurance companies out of business.

    “The most important thing for us to make sure is that we do increase coverage to a basic plan for more Americans and the way we’re going to do that is starting with where people get most of their health care, and that’s their employer,” House Minority Whip Eric Cantor, R-Va., said Monday. “We’ve got to be sure to make it so those employers can keep their health care costs down.”

    Cantor, appearing on ABC’s “Good Morning America,” said that “a government plan, no matter what you call it, will increase costs” and limit choices.

    Two recent news media polls have found public support for a government plan, even if many people are unsure about its implications. The most recent survey, a New York Times-CBS News poll released Sunday, found that 72 percent supported the idea, including half of those who identified themselves as Republicans.

    “The polling data backs up our substantive view that to make health care reform work, you need a public option,” said Schumer.

    Schumer’s role is important because he had been acting as an intermediary between liberal Democrats and moderates who are trying to strike a deal on the issue with Republicans on the Senate Finance Committee. Of the five House and Senate committees working on health care, Finance is the only one that appears to have a chance at reaching a bipartisan agreement.

    Schumer said Finance Republicans had rejected several proposals designed to beef up the suggested nonprofit insurance co-ops. These included setting up a national structure for the co-ops, $10 billion in government seed money, power to negotiate payment rates to medical providers nationwide and creation of a presidentially appointed board of directors.

    Without “dramatic” changes, Schumer said he would oppose the co-ops deal and urge other Democrats to do so as well.

    Obama has also been sending signals that he’s ready to draw a line.

    He recently said that if Congress wants a bipartisan bill, it’s up to House and Senate Republicans. He said he would listen to GOP ideas, but was not going to force Democrats to include them when they write the final legislation. Obama told CNBC he has already taken steps to come to the middle on health care.

    The Finance Committee compromise could be unveiled as early as this week. Senators were forced to start again last week because initial cost estimates were well above their 10-year, $1 trillion target.

    The next few weeks will be pivotal in the debate. Democrats want to push ahead as far as they can before the July 4 congressional recess. Over the break, comments from constituents could determine whether Congress sticks to its goal of passing legislation this summer.


    Associated Press writer Philip Elliott contributed to this report.

    (This version CORRECTS Corrects Schumer quote in 8th graf to say ‘substantive’, sted of ‘subjective,’ ADDS detail on Obama. EDITS to tighten. Moving on general news and financial services.)

  50. rosettasister Says:

    Good morning, all. Thanks so much for the updates!


    (Reposting these links from above. And I’ll try and update these as well.)

    If you’re trying stay updated, may I suggest these sites?





    Realtime results for #iranelection


    You may be able to find more like that here:


  51. rosettasister Says:

    More pics here:


  52. rosettasister Says:


    Where’s Biden? How long do folks need to live under the failure of Democrats Stimulus Bill? It’s long past due to repeal it, and implement the Republican Bill of tax cuts and a more business friendly Government.

    Of all the economic data that keep coming out, there is little to no evidence the Stimulus has a positive influence on economic growth.

    1 posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 9:05:25 AM by Son House

  53. rosettasister Says:

    The NOT Rush Limbaugh LIVE Radio Show Thread – Monday, June 22, 2009 (MARK STEYN SUBS)


  54. rosettasister Says:

    Iran : 13 vidéos inédites d’une révolution censurée


  55. rosettasister Says:

    Iranian Diary: Police Load Protestors in Frozen Meat Van


    An Iranian philosophy professor protesting the elections in Iran has revealed in his personal diary on Facebook.com scenes that vary from surreal comedy to all-too-real brutality. After the beating of a riot policeman, he admits, “We’re not beasts! We’re not like them!’ I think, ‘But the bastard deserves it.’ I don’t recognize myself and my feelings anymore.”


  56. rosettasister Says:


    To: Traianus

    Iran opposition leader vows to stand by protesters


    Tehran’s streets were mostly quiet on Sunday, but cries of “God is great” and “Death to the dictator” echoed again from rooftops after dark, a sign of seething anger at the government crackdown.

    English-language state television said an exile group known as the People’s Mujahedeen had a hand in the street violence and broadcast what it said were confessions of British-controlled agents in an indication that the government was ready to crack down even harder.

    Ahmadinejad appeared to be courting his own clerical support. State television showed him meeting with mullahs at the presidential palace and telling them the election had demonstrated popular love for the regime.

    18 posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 3:06:30 AM by Son House

  57. rosettasister Says:

    22 Jun 2009 11:14 am

    Tweet Update


    From Iranbaan,


    via NIAC:


    “Head of parliament’s judiciary committee: Mousavi accountable for illegal protests, can be pursued legally.”

    “Iran MP: Ground ready to legally pursue Mousavi for ‘acting against national security.”

    “Head of the Judicial Commission of Majlis has requested the judicial pursuit of Mir Hussein Mousavi.”

    “Ali Larijani, Hashemi Shahroudi, and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had a meeting with Ayatollah Khamenei about elections and recent events.”

    “People have clashed with plain-clothed individuals and special forces in 7 Tir. These clashes are continuing.”

    “Laleh Park and Shiroudi Stadium have become the command center to organize anti-riot police and plain clothes.”

    “A group of people holding candles have sat down silently on the ground in 7 Tir Sq. but the special forces are planning to disperse them by attacking them.”

    “Laleh Park and Shiroudi gym have become the centers for organizing anti-riot and the plain-clothes forces.”

    “Laleh Park is taken over by the anti-riot guards; where they have set up tents and have brought more than 2000 forces.”

    “People will demonstrate after 5pm everyday from Enghelab to Azadi to protest the repression and killings.”


  58. rosettasister Says:

    Live blogging…minute by minute with Revolution!


    Police & plain cloths usings tear gas, pepper spray and batons to disperse crowd
    Plain Cloths now in front of Kalameh newspaper place in Hafte Tir Sq. Journalists are stuck in the building
    people :YOU’RE just riffraff, lower than dirt,I’m the aching lover, blazing and lit.
    You’re the black halo, oppressive and blind,I’m the brave hero and this land is mine!
    People are gathering at 7tir SQ, Shouting,we’re not afraid of death, we fear living
    police conflicts & use of tear gas in front of Jaam-e-Jam as well
    Basij crawling around haft-tir Sq
    people:If my silence so shakes the dictator to his core, then what will my OUTCRIES do?
    180 journalists issued an statement re government pressure stopping them from reporting
    Laleh Park and Shiroudi Stadium have become the command center to organize anti-riot police and plain clothes
    “Frightening reports coming from Tabriz (Mousavi’s hometown); they resemble Saturday’s massacre in Tehran”
    England restricts travels to Iran, withdraws embassy families stationed in Tehran
    Police Using Gunfire, Tear gas,Electric Bat. Clashes at Enghelab SQ
    people:Regime of Coup d’état, abdicate, abdicate!
    Maziyar Bahari arrested in Tehran. he was Newsweek reporter
    In Enghelab sq. police shooting the air, using tear gas & electric batons
    People are gathering near Mellat Park (North Tehran) Near State TV, Trafic Jamm & Lights and Horn
    At least 47 killed and 1206 injured from this days!

  59. rosettasister Says:

    John Campbell acting very presidential:

    June 19, 2009

    Congressman John Campbell speaks on the floor of the House in favor of freedom, democracy, and self-determination for the Iranian people.

  60. rosettasister Says:

    Stopping Obamacare Now: Killing The Government Option and Capping the Cost of Radical Restructuring

    (Please click here to access important links and info.)



    Finally, call the Democratic senators who are believed to be wavering because of the enormous costs associated with the Baucus-Dodd-Kennedy approaches to health care legislation.

    Their contact information is below.

    Americans do want the uninsured to have a chance at insurance, and they do want guarantees of portability. They do worry about losing insurance if they lose their jobs.

    But they don’t want a radical overturning of everything they value in American medicine.

    They don’t want to lose the insurance they have or the doctors with who have treated them for years. Most Americans with insurance like their insurance –a lot.

    The president’s plan will not only cause enormous numbers of employers to shuck their coverage and consign their employees to the “government option,” once there the employees will find that rationing is the rule of the day.

    Older Americans will find Medicare being bled to pay for the new “government option” and subsidies for the presently uninsured.

    This plan can and should be defeated. Sign the petition.


    Call the Blue Dogs in the House.


    And then call these senators:

  61. rosettasister Says:

    “The Stoning of Soraya M”


    My new Washington Examiner column is about the powerful new movie The Stoning of Soraya M, and the message its success this weekend will send to the mullahs.


    Follow updates from Iran via #iranelection at search.twitter.com.


    Jennifer Rubin sees signs that President Obama may be “pivoting” towards a more full-throated defense of the protestors in Iran.


    That would be very good news with which to begin a week of extraordinary significance for Iran and the world.

  62. rosettasister Says:

    Obama’s healthcare troubles


    What is going wrong:

    big deficits,

    too much all at once,

    voters who don’t see how reform will benefit them but understand how higher taxes will hurt them.

  63. rosettasister Says:

    Poll: ‘Blame Bush’ running out of steam


    A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 39% of voters now say the country’s economic problems are caused more by the policies Obama has put in place.
    That’s a 12-point jump from a month ago.

    Fifty-four percent (54%) still say the country’s economic woes are due to the recession Obama inherited from President Bush. That figure is down eight points from 62% from early June.

  64. rosettasister Says:

    Why Obamacare may be flatlining


    But they also assumed that the downturn would create such a sense of economic insecurity that time would be ripe for the sort of expansive, government-led healthcare changes that the party has been dreaming of for two generations.

    Instead, the Great Recession made healthcare less of a priority for voters than economic recovery — as fast as possible, please — and job creation.

    A recent spate of polls shows concern about healthcare (and climate change and pretty much everything else) lagging concern about unemployment.

    Healthcare lags concern about the shocking enlargement of the federal budget deficit, which has grown partly due to government actions

    — such as the $800 billion Obama stimulus package —

    to deal with the recession, as well as by the decline in tax revenue caused by the downturn itself.

    And then last week, the Congressional Budget Office, the respected arbiter of what new government programs might cost, calculated that the Senate Finance Committee’s health reform bill would cost more than $1.6 trillion over 10 years.

    That was determined to be a political no-go by Senate Democrats– a smart conclusion given the recent polling — and the committee moved on to a still evolving plan B.

    It is also ironic that the Obama administration, so aware of the latest research in behavioral economics, would forget about a phenomenon called “loss aversion”,

    which suggests people feel the pain of financial losses more acutely than comparable gains.

  65. rosettasister Says:

    Graham: ‘Government-Run’ Health Care Won’t Pass Senate


    Graham cited a Congressional Budget Office estimate of the draft Kennedy-Dodd health care bill costing $1 trillion to cover one-third of Americans.

    “The CBO estimates were a death blow to a government run health care plan, Graham told me, “The finance committee has abandoned that. We do need to deal with inflation in health care, private and public inflation, but we’re not going to go down to the government owning health care road in America and I think that’s the story of this week. There’s been a bipartisan rejection of that.”

    However Graham left the door open on a co-op proposal floated by Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D. (not-for-profit, but NOT government-run)

  66. rosettasister Says:

    Interior Minister Rehman Malik on Monday said Tehrik-Taliban Swat (TTS) chief Maunalan Fazalullah has been encircled by security forces but military authorities did not confirm it.


    The interior minister also claimed that Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) chief Baitullah Mehsud, for whom a military operation is in the offing, is still in the tribal area refuting some reports that he might have escaped to Afghanistan.

    *** ‘We have information that where he is and we will not give him any chance to escape,’ he said. ***

  67. rosettasister Says:

    I suppose this is good, but Christians are helping non-Christians, too.

    Thousands of Christian refugees in Pakistan need your help. Breedlove Dehydrated Foods and Evangelical International Ministries are raising funds to send food and other aid. To help, go to Breedlove.org

  68. rosettasister Says:

    Pakistan Faces Humanitarian Crisis

    The United Nations has launched an urgent appeal for funds to help the UN respond to the massive humanitarian crisis facing Pakistan.

    Over three million Pakistanis have been displaced in recent weeks due to the Pakistani militarys offensive against the Taliban in the Swat Valley.

    Last week, the UN High Commissioner for Refugees, Antonio Guterres, said the Pakistan displacement crisis is probably the worlds biggest since events in Rwanda and Democratic Republic of Congo in the 90s.

    Last month the UN appealed for about $540 million from the international community, but only about 35 percent of the funding has been received.

    The humanitarian crisis in Pakistan is expected to soon worsen as the Pakistani military prepares to expand its offensive against militants by attacking South Waziristan.

  69. rosettasister Says:

    More HealthCareForAmerica propaganda.

    We do need competition, but within the private sector.

  70. NeConservative Says:


    CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS?? Acorn affiliate is suing MonCrief!!!

    Project Vote sues whistleblower: ObamACORN bully tactics exposed
    By Michelle Malkin • June 22, 2009 12:11 PM
    Photoshop: Reader S.J.

    The White House is on a witch hunt against inspectors general who blow the whistle on waste, fraud, and abuse of taxpayer dollars.

    And now, taxpayer-subsidized ACORN affiliate Project Vote — where President Obama cut his teeth as a community organizer and learned Leftist intimidation tactics up close and personal — is going after whistleblower Anita MonCrief and an anonymous “John Doe” defendant for posting invaluable documents that reveal the money-shuffling racket.

    Obama. ACORN. Project Vote. Corrupt birds of a feather bully together.

    The scoop: Project Vote has filed a federal lawsuit against MonCrief for blogging about her experience and knowledge of the non-profit 501(c)(3) organization’s partisan and political activities, including coordination with the Obama campaign. Project Vote seeks compensatory damages and exemplary damages “of at least $5 million” and all costs and attorney’s fees on trumped-up charges of “trademark infringement” and publication of “trade secrets.”

    You don’t have to be a lawyer to see that this is a blatant act of retaliation. MonCrief has always been open and honest about her firing from Project Vote. The ObamACORN mob used the credit card incident as a pretext then and they are using it as a pretext now. The real reason they are going after her is because she poses a fundamental threat to ACORN’s criminal racket.

    I’ve uploaded the entire 30-page complaint. Read it. Send it to your congressional rep. Spread the word:

    This is what ObamACORN bullying looks like.


    The Examiner reports on ACORN’s efforts to evade accountability and sunlight by changing its name. Par for the course. And if you’ve been following Anita’s work online, you already know the m.o.

    I’m reprinting in full one of Anita’s blog posts from February 6, 2009 during the stimulus debate to show how comprehensive her knowledge is of ObamACORN’s money-shuffling operations and political cunning. The Left is going to pour as much money into shutting her up as needed. Who is going to help Anita fight?

  71. Tenacity Says:

    Here is some encouragement in this time of trouble.

  72. rosettasister Says:


    Scattered conflict on streets around TV station and Mellat park and Jame Jam
    Clashes at Oromieh, Police used teargas
    In today’s conflict some women and girls sent to the hospital as the clubs injured their heads
    At least more than 80 of today’s protesters have been arrested by anti-riot police
    Revolutionary Guards stopping and searching cars and peoples bags. They are taking peoples ID cards and cameras

  73. rosettasister Says:

    Warning may be graphic. Sender says from June 22, 2009 I am submitting video from anonymous sources in Iran some video may or may not have been posted before.

  74. rosettasister Says:


    iran; helicopter flies over protesters june 22 2009

  75. rosettasister Says:

    Great pics here.

    Monday, June 22, 2009

    Mohammad – Iranian Student – Do not Abandon Us In Iran


    Wake up Obama.

    Are you willing to let thousands of young freedom fighters be slaughtered because you intend to pursue diplomacy with a ruthless regime?

    Ever since Obama took office Iran and North Korea have flaunted their violations of human rights, increased the suppression of their citizens, and laughed at the international calls for reform.

    Why do the Iranian freedom fighters have to burn an effigy of the President to get his attention?

  76. rosettasister Says:



  77. NeConservative Says:


    134 billion Critical Questions
    6-22-09 | D C Jones

    Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 12:35:13 PM by D C Jones

    June 22, 2009

    Theories abound, but facts are in short supply. One fact that can be surmised is that there is a cover-up. The evidence for this is circumstantial, but overwhelming. It meets the standard of “beyond all reasonable doubt”, the supposedly highest standard set in American jurisprudence.

    It has been 19 days and the two alleged perpetrators/victims have not been identified to the public.

    The Japanese consulate general in Milan confirmed that the detention had taken place and said it was trying to confirm the authenticity of the bonds.

    Colonel Rodolfo Mecarelli of the Guardia di Finanza in Como, Italy, said the securities, seized in Chiasso, Italy, was very genuine looking and needed to be confirmed by the Securities and Exchange Commission.

    “They’re clearly fakes,” said Stephen Meyerhardt, a spokesman for the U.S. Bureau of the Public Debt in Washington.

    Takeshi Akamatsu, a Japanese foreign ministry press secretary, said Italian authorities had confirmed that two men carrying Japanese passports had been questioned in the bond case but Tokyo had not been informed of their names or whereabouts. “We don’t know where they are now,” Mr. Akamatsu said. Kyodo News reported on June 19 that the two Japanese men had been released. The Japanese consulate general in Milan said Thursday it has confirmed that two men who were briefly detained by Italian police after attempting to enter Switzerland with $134 billion worth of U.S. bonds were Japanese citizens. The men were released later that day after an Italian lawyer provided fidelity guarantee for them. (Kyodo News (共同通信社 Kyōdō Tsūshinsha) is a nonprofit cooperative news agency based in Minato, Tokyo. It was established in 1945 and it distributes news to almost all newspapers, and radio and television networks in Japan. The newspapers using its news have about 50 million subscribers.-Source: Wikipedia)

    These bonds were not obvious forgeries. For nearly two weeks, Italian authorities probed their authenticity and eventually requested the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission’s appraisal. Asked what it concluded, SEC spokesman John Heine told me Wednesday: “I think I need to decline to comment on this.” By DEROY MURDOCK Scripps Howard News Service


    How can the quality of forged bearer bonds be so meticulous that they “are indistinguishable from the real ones”, yet the counterfeiters are so ill-informed as to not date the bearer bonds appropriately, or print denominations that never existed?

    The denominations are so large, and the amount so much, who or what institution could afford to buy them, and why would they?

    If the bonds are fake, how without a conspiracy at the buyer level, and the authentication level could the bonds be sold? (Someone at the buyer level, who had enough clout within an institution to direct the authentication process to a coconspirator at the authentication level, seems the only feasible way a sale could take place.)

    With an array of biometric technologies from fingerprints to unknown classified identification systems and methods, and huge commercial and government data bases that keep track of just about everything on everybody in the civilized world, how long would it take determined government entities to identify the two men?

    If they have indeed been released and the bonds fake, then they are cooperating with law enforcement in apprehending there fellow conspirators, (the only plausible explanation) and how could this be kept a secret from the other conspirators, and why have there been no reports of further arrests in what would be the biggest fraud in history perpetrated by private individuals?

    If the two individuals were released as reported by Kyodo News, and there has been no news of them since this story has broke on the internet in a large way, then isn’t the cooperation with law enforcement scenario unlikely?

    If the two men were released without being part of a set up to catch there fellow conspirators, (extremely unlikely to begin with) is it plausible that the bonds were fake?

    If the bonds were real, can anyone believe that the owners could be anything other than a government?

    Assuming that the government is Japan, (since there are only four governments who are reported to hold this much American debt) how likely is it that Italy receive proceeds of any kind when the owner is a government as compared to a person/people?

    Considering the daily diet of sensationalism that the mainstream media feed the populace every day, can it be argued that a concerted effort, on a huge scale has been implemented to suppress this otherwise sensational story?

    What other than the enormous implications of the bonds being real would warrant the effort of the attempted world wide main stream media block-out?

    Is it plausible that an unofficial, or covert part of the Japanese government is behind the attempted sale? Would this explain the lack of utilizing the diplomatic corps? Plausible deniability protocol?

    Wouldn’t using a plausible deniability protocol insure the bonds being returned if anything went wrong, and absolve any upper echelon Japanese officials of betraying there purported support of the US dollar?

    Wouldn’t the sale of these bond eventually come out, and incur the wrath of the US government?

    D C Jones

  78. rosettasister Says:

    I really do have to go, but wanted to post this

    It is gonna be crazy week

    • LIVE REPORT: from today demonstration 6/22 — (part4) – Page 18 – Why We Protest – IRAN Says:

    June 22, 2009 at 6:33 pm

    […] The Symbol of a Brewing Revolution Neda: The Symbol of a Brewing Revolution | IANYAN Ode to Neda Ode to Neda Rosettasister’s Weblog Neda is the face of Iran Neda is the face of Iran David Wylie DAILY NEWS-Neda, young girl […]


  79. NeConservative Says:

    Here they are, getting in our faces again, er Michelle’s


    Obamacare ground troops at the airport
    By Michelle Malkin • June 22, 2009 02:37 PM I’m at Denver International Airport waiting to pick up family.

    In Terminal East, I was accosted by two young people from an outfit called “Progressive Future.” They are standing with clipboards and propaganda pimping Obamacare.

    Don’t have time right now to look them up, but I asked one of the young Obama-bots who funded his group.

    He didn’t know.

    Wouldn’t be surprised if stimulus dollars or AmeriCorps funding was subsidizing this.

    The young man handed me a flyer using “right-wing Republicans in Congress,” “Rush Limbaugh and Fox News” to scare the sheeple into support the government health care takeover.

    On the one hand, it shows how organized the ground troops are.

    On the other hand, can you think of a sillier place to engage citizens in a discussion of health care than in the middle of an airport with busy travelers rushing to and from their flights?

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  80. Tenacity Says:

    Troy and the Gang,
    What do any of you know about this?
    The Story Of Leo Wanta
    ‘The 27.5 Trillion Dollar Man’
    The Key Question Looms: Will The Illuminati Banksters Get the Money First
    Or Will The American People Get It, As Wanta Is Legal Guardian And
    Trustee On Behalf Of The People Of The United States


  81. CJ Says:

    This is an excerpt from a financial/current events newsletter I receive called “A Voice of Sanity in an Insane World”. Written by Robert Ringer, the main author of the site. Many people know what we know and are reacting to it. The entire piece was about what’s happening in Iran. I thought this part was especially relevant: The title of the piece is:

    “A Message from Iran”

    “Either way, Americans should take note. A lot of non-Kool-Aid drinkers must know by now that a fascist dictatorship is brewing in Washington. In fact, it’s been in the making for more than 100 years. And now that the reincarnation of Saul Alinsky has pressed the progressive accelerator to the floor in the Oval Office, the response has been a few scattered “tea parties” – planned in advance, yet.

    As one would expect, the progressives snicker at such feeble attempts at protest, and White House staffers swear that the Master of Misdirection hasn’t even noticed them. And maybe he hasn’t. After all, he’s been busy nationalizing banks and automakers, preparing to abolish private health care, and setting in motion green laws to fight non-existent global warming and take control of virtually every aspect of your life.

    There is only one thing that will get the attention of the current rulers in Washington – millions of people taking to the streets, protesting twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week, nationwide. Sorry, but you don’t put revolutions on pause just to watch the NBA finals or spend a weekend at the beach. No violence necessary – just loud, nonstop protesting.

    And the protesting has to happen soon – or it will be too late. Once ACORN takes full control, U.S. elections will be about as fair as the recent presidential election in Iran. And the resulting police state should be about as much fun as the one Iranians are risking their lives to get rid of.

    Let’s be honest: There’s not a whole lot of difference between a progressive fascist and an Islamic fascist. If it walks like a fascist and talks like a fascist – you know what mean … I hope.

    Right now, every non-Kool-Aid drinker in America should be shouting: “Don’t start the (peaceful) revolution without me!” Be there.”

  82. sisterrosetta Says:

    Having connectivity issues

    Will try again later

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  85. rosettasister Says:

    okay, now we’re back in bidness!

  86. rosettasister Says:

    Dear God, Can This Be True?!

    “She said a number of times that even if she dies and takes a bullet to the heart, it will be a step forward.”


    Troy was so moved that he wrote an ode to Neda which has drawn a lot of traffic.



    And I wanted to know if she’d been in love. Apparently so.

    rosettasister Says:

    igaveup Says:

    the freeze frame picture of the murdered woman is the face of the protesters.

    i can’t think of anything more. a picture is more than a thousand words.


    So true, so true!

    I cannot get that image out of my head.

    And I hope I never do.

    I want to know all about her.

    Her parents, any siblings or children?

    Was she in love?

    Who was that man who was so distraught bending over her broken body?

    Who was the older man?

    That image of her is like a modern day Pieta.

    She is the Christ image.


    Fiancé of slain Iranian protestor: Neda wanted freedom

    Two days after video depicting death of Iranian protestor in Tehran who has become symbol of reformist struggle, young woman’s fiancé speaks to press, saying she was not politically affiliated. Iranian exile who uploaded footage to Web: I knew world would be shocked


    “Neda wanted freedom, freedom for everyone,” said Kaspeen Makan, who was engaged to Neda Sultani, 27, the Iranian woman who has become a symbol of the reformist struggle in Iran after a video of her being killed by a Basij sniper during a protest on Saturday was posted on the Internet.

    “She said a number of times that even if she dies and takes a bullet to the heart, which apparently is what happened, it will be a step forward. Neda, in her young age, taught a lesson to many people,” said Makan in an interview with the BBC.

    He noted that she was not affiliated with any political camp. “Neda’s goal was not Mousavi or Ahmadinejad, but her homeland. It was important to her that the homeland advance a step forward.”

  87. rosettasister Says:

    Neda’s revolution


  88. rosettasister Says:

    Saturday, Bloody Saturday

    Bloody saturday in tehran!

    Videos from Bloody Saturday
    20 june 2009


  89. rosettasister Says:

    ویدیوی ارسالی از خشونت های اخیر در تهران- شنبه 30 خرداد


  90. rosettasister Says:

    Revolutionary Guards commander defies Khamenei’s orders to use force on protestors


    A commander of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards has been arrested for refusing to obey Iran’s Supreme Leader, according to reports from the Balatarin website.

    General Ali Fazli, who was recently appointed as a commander of the Revolutionary Guards in the province of Tehran, is reported to have been arrested after he refused to carry out orders from the Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei to use force on people protesting the controversial re-election of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.


  91. rosettasister Says:


  92. rosettasister Says:


    Huckabee on Iran: …and he didn’t make an embarrassing mistake, this time. Huckabee also repeated his

  93. rosettasister Says:


    Rest in His arms, little one. I dedicate two songs to you:

    95 posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 7:26:19 PM by RushIsMyTeddyBear

    Double click to play

  94. rosettasister Says:

    Neda belongs to the world now.

    Double click to play

  95. rosettasister Says:

  96. rosettasister Says:

    In Islam rules you can kill anybody who enter your home without permit.
    But Basij can do every thing that they like without any punishment!!!!
    They just use Islam rules for Kill people with stone.

  97. rosettasister Says:

  98. Troy Says:

    Hey Rose, just wanted to let you know that you’re not alone here. 🙂

  99. rosettasister Says:

    Thanks, Troy!

    What does Ten say, you’re never alone here?

  100. rosettasister Says:

    Iran Protests and NEDA Montage to Music (Graphic)

  101. rosettasister Says:

    Iran after election 2009 (Babol, Iran-Monday, June 22nd)

  102. rosettasister Says:

    Poem of Iranian poet Siavash Kasrai with the pictures of June uprisings in Iran

  103. rosettasister Says:

    In loving memory of our dear Iranian sister Neda who was murdered by the dark forces of the dictator of Iran. We love you Neda! به یاد خواهر عزیزمان ندا که توسط ایادی دیکتاتور در راه آزادی ایران ب…

  104. rosettasister Says:

    I’ve posted a lot of video, but this last one is especially touching.

    Please watch/listen to the whole thing.

    The music changes.

    I know I’ve heard the closing song before, but I can’t quite place it.

    I will be back later.

  105. Tenacity Says:

    You are never alone at Rose’s Place.

  106. igaveup Says:

    sliderblaze Says:
    June 22, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    dont know if i ever talked about crime in my city here. but lancaster made nation news again, this time….. for the number of cameras in the city, pegged as the most watched small city in the nation.

    Camera’s, doing the job the police shoulda been doing a long time ago.

    *those Amish again………. 😉

  107. KoolAid_Free_Lexi Says:

    Tenacity Says:
    June 22, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    Troy and the Gang,
    What do any of you know about this?
    The Story Of Leo Wanta
    ‘The 27.5 Trillion Dollar Man’

    That’s the first I’ve ever heard of this, Ten.

    Wonder where Wanta is now??

  108. KoolAid_Free_Lexi Says:

    rosettasister Says:
    June 23, 2009 at 1:51 am

    Dear God, Can This Be True?!

    “She said a number of times that even if she dies and takes a bullet to the heart, it will be a step forward.”


    Reminds me of Ester. Ester (knowing that her life could be taken for her choice to speak on behave of her people) said something like … maybe this is my life’s purpose… maybe I was created for just such a time as this.

  109. NeConservative Says:

    from atlasshrugs:
    Monday, June 22, 2009
    Congress and the Unions Exempt from Obamacare
    WTF? Obama goons are taking care of their leftist armies. Now the unions are exempt along with Congress from socialized medicine.

    This is a two tiered system. Union members will not be taxed on their benefits. NON UNION MEMBERS WILL HAVE THEIR BENEFITS TAXED!


    There’s been a lot of health care uproar. What hit my radar most today was this: union members won’t be subjected to a new tax on health care under the new Baucus plan. As Jed Babbin writes today in Human Events, “It would penalize every non-union recipient of employer-provided healthcare benefits.” Here’s the article.


    ObamaCare specifically exempts members of Congress along with federal employees; the exemptions are in section 3116. If nationalized medicine is good enough for us then they have have to suffer as well.

    What makes this scam on the American people all the more Obama-disgusting? Who could forget when Obama was telling everyone he wanted the people to have a health care program just like Congress has? Remember that? But Congress knows it’s crap: it exempts itself and federal employees from it.

    The US is becoming more like the old USSR, where the old good jobs are government jobs and the only way to get something done is to have a “friend” in the government. The USSR or Chicagoland gangsta politics.

    If Obama and his goons are going to destroy the best healthcare system in the world, they should be first on line for dirty scalpels and euthanasia. Or perhaps the left wing mainstream media should be first, as they are an embarrassing shill for dear leader.

    Top 10 Facts about House Democrats Government Takeover of Heatlh Care

    Nationalized healthcare? Check out how well it works in Canada (and it worse in the UK):

    1. “For cancer patients, the study found that the median wait time for radiation therapy was almost seven weeks, exceeding the benchmark of four weeks.”

    2. “Patients are also facing long delays when they go the emergency department, the WTA said, waiting an average of nine hours to be seen and treated and for patients who needed to be admitted, the average wait time was nearly 24 hours.”

    He wrote:

    “A median of seven weeks for cancer treatments? That means half the patients in this study waited even longer than that. Would someone be able to survive that long with no treatment?

    And can you imagine waiting nine hours to be seen in the emergency room?”

  110. NeConservative Says:

    For some reason I’ve got this song in my head, no, I’m not flying anywhere. Taking the fam to Colorado in a couple weeks tho.

  111. NeConservative Says:

    It sure would be nice if someone would come forward…


    Farah’s $10,000 birth certificate challenge
    Editor encourages readers to help him up the ante

    Posted: June 22, 2009
    9:00 pm Eastern

    © 2009 WorldNetDaily

    President Obama (White House photo

    WASHINGTON – WND Editor and Chief Executive Officer Joseph Farah is offering a $10,000 reward to anyone who can prove he or she was present at the birth of Barack Obama – and he’s asking Americans to donate to the cause in hopes of raising the bounty to an irresistible amount.

    “Barack Obama claims to have been born in Honolulu Aug. 4, 1961,” explains Farah. “His entire constitutional claim to the presidency rests on this premise. Yet, he refuses to release a copy of his long-form birth certificate – the only document that could possibly corroborate his claim. Therefore, in the interest of truth, justice and the Constitution, I am making the extraordinary offer to entice someone to come forward with the facts of his birth – whether it took place in Hawaii or elsewhere.”

    Obama has steadfastly refused to release evidence of that Hawaiian birth – a valid, long-form birth certificate that would show details of the birth, such as the hospital and the attending physician. Because the short-form “certification of live birth” he released to select news organization was at least sometimes issued for foreign births on the basis of an affidavit by one parent, it proves nothing as far as constitutional eligibility – and, in fact, raises suspicions about a foreign birth.

    (Story continues below)

    To date, no hospital in Hawaii has come forward to claim this historic birth.

    No doctor or nurse has come forward to say they were present for that historic birth.

    No witness of any kind has come forward to say they have first-hand knowledge or involvement in that historic birth – at least in Hawaii.

    Obama’s paternal grandmother, Sarah Obama, claims to have been present for the birth in Mombassa, Kenya.

    “It is clear now that Obama will never willingly release his birth certificate,” said Farah. “It’s time for Americans who still value the Constitution to step up and force the issue. It’s time for us to learn the truth of where Obama was born. We may find he was born in Hawaii. We may find he was born elsewhere. I have no pre-conceived ideas. But this issue has haunted the American people long enough. It’s time for some truth and transparency.”

    To collect the reward, the subject must:

    1. Agree to an interview with WND journalists;
    2. Provide persuasive evidence, such as pictures, documents or verifiable details;

    3. Agree to a polygraph test.

    “I think it’s disgraceful that Americans should be forced to go to such lengths by the intransigence of public officials toward accountability,” said Farah. “But that is what it has come to in 2009 with our current president. He prefers to dodge and weave, while his apologists in government and media viciously attack citizens for attempting to see that the Constitution is observed.”

    Farah launched a petition drive earlier this year that has accumulated nearly 400,000 signatures demanding that all controlling legal authorities pursue proof of Obama’s status as a “natural born citizen.” That petition campaign is still on-going.

    More recently, he launched a billboard campaign raising the simple question, “Where’s the birth certificate?” That campaign has raised $85,000 so far. Farah says there are plenty of billboards available, despite a ban on the campaign by several major outdoor advertising companies. But donations have dried up because of an apparent misperception among readers that billboards are not available due to the bans imposed by a few companies.

    In addition, Farah points out those interested in backing his latest campaign can also raise visibility for the issue by purchasing magnetic bumper stickers, tea party rally signs and yard signs that raise the same simple question, “Where’s the birth certificate?”

    All funds not used specifically for a reward will go toward the purchase of more billboard space.

    If you would like to raise the reward, WND is accepting contributions in any amount. Donations can be made online, by phone and credit card or checks can be mailed to:

    PO Box 1627
    Medford, Or 97501

    Checks should be clearly marked as to purpose.

    If you would like to arrange a credit card contribution by phone, call 1.800.4WND.COM

    Here is an actual Hawaiian birth certificate from 1963 (the same era as Obama’s birth), which while redacted includes detailed information documenting a birth, including the name of the birth hospital and the attending physician.

    Long-form birth certificate from state of Hawaii (Image courtesy Philip Berg)

    Here is the “Certification of Live Birth” presented by Obama:

    Short-form “Certification of Live Birth”

    If you are a member of the media and would like to interview Joseph Farah about this campaign, e-mail WND.

  112. NeConservative Says:

    Hearing set on default in Obama eligibility case
    Judge asks for 2nd confirmation that president notified of case

    Posted: June 22, 2009
    10:05 pm Eastern

    By Bob Unruh
    © 2009 WorldNetDaily

    Dr. Orly Taitz

    A judge in California has scheduled a July 13 hearing in a case challenging Barack Obama’s eligibility to be president in which the plaintiffs’ attorney, Orly Taitz, says the commander-in-chief is in default.

    Taitz told WND if her motion is granted she will immediately request access to Obama’s birth records and other documentation that could determine his eligibility to occupy the Oval Office.

    The announcement came from U.S. District Judge David O. Carter, who said: “Before the court is a motion by plaintiffs for reconsideration of order to show cause or in the alternative to certify question for appeal. Court sets this matter for hearing on July 13, 2009 at 8:30a.m. in Courtroom 9D. Plaintiffs are directed to make every effort possible to ensure that all remaining defendants are aware of the hearing and provide documentation that the individual receiving service is authorized to accept on defendants’ behalf.”

    Taitz told WND she previously had served notice of the action but would pursue a further notification and confirmation.

    “I have a very clear case,” Taitz said. “I think they dropped the ball. They didn’t figure out this case filed on Jan. 20th, on the day of inauguration.

    The case was filed on behalf of former U.S. Ambassador Alan Keyes, also a contestant in the 2008 presidential race in California, and others. Taitz said the case might have been confused with another Keyes vs. Obama case filed in that state’s court system, which was thrown out and now is on appeal.

    “I will be asking for the release of his vital records,” she said.

    “The latest argument by the judge says that I was supposed to serve Obama by a certain Rule-4I. My argument is that it wasn’t applicable, as I served him as an individual, on inauguration day, for his action before he became the president. He does not qualify to get governmental representation, meaning he has to pick (up) the tab,” she explained.

    “He defaulted, and in default I can demand production of the documents to show his fitness for the position,” she wrote.

    “The documents that I am requesting are the original (birth certificate), school records, passport records and immigration records.”

    The case, which also includes Wiley S. Drake and Markham Robinson as plaintiffs, names as defendant “Barack H Obama also known as Barack Hussein Obama II also known as Barack H Obama II also known as Barry Obama also known as Barry Soetoro.”

    The service was verified, Taitz wrote in her latest motion to the court, by an affidavit that already is on file with the court.

    “Plaintiffs have satisfied both the requirements of Rule 4(e)(2)(d) (and) 4(i)(3),” she wrote.

    Taitz explained the dispute as being over the way she served notice of the lawsuit. There are different requirements for someone acting as a government official or someone who acted as a government official, but has left office.

    Neither of those apply, she said. She sued Obama individually for his acts before he took office, specifically his refusal to provide the documentation that would show his eligibility.

    She said her process server went to the White House to serve the president, and the Secret Service refused her admittance and refused to take the documents. She retreated to her car and called the White House office of legal counsel on her cell phone, and was instructed the proper service would be to deliver the documents to the Justice Department, which she did.

    “Plaintiffs respectfully submit that this Court’s order finding or at least strongly suggesting that 4(e) service is insufficient, and requiring 4(i) service, regarding the subject matter of this lawsuit as against the sole served Defendant Barack H. Obama, is manifestly erroneous and plaintiffs accordingly request that the court reconsider its motion,” she argued.

    “In the alternative, plaintiffs move and request that this court exercise its sound discretion to certify a question for interlocutory appeal.”

    She suggested the case already is in default on the part of the president, and it should so be concluded.

    “Why have a rule of default, at all, why make a distinction between private and U.S. governmental parties as between 4(e) and 4(i) at all within the federal rules, if the face of a complaint, and the status of the parties at the time of filing, cannot be used to judge compliance with such a rule which might apply in this case to guarantee victory to the plaintiff?

    “It seems to the plaintiffs unfair and unjust that a judge could merely set aside a party’s default on a whim, for no good legal or equitable reason, based on a change in a party’s status, but not the cause of action against him, between filing and service of a suit?” she continued.

    “Plaintiffs Keyes et al. request this court to amend its order to show cause, especially but not limited to the Friday, June 12, 2009, order extending show cause, and denying as moot plaintiffs’ motions for clarification, to permit plaintiffs to pursue an appeal pursuant to section 1292(b).”

    As WND reported in a profile on Taitz, she was born in the Republic of Moldova which used to be part of the Soviet Union.

    Recalling her life under a communist regime, she told WND she is determined to do her part to stop America from following in the all-too-familiar footsteps of her former homeland.

    She confirms she is not willing to let the issue rest on a single case and has filed multiple complaints in an effort to reach her goal. She previously took her complaint directly to the U.S. Supreme Court, and when the justices met privately with the defendant – Obama – but didn’t explain their rejection of her dispute, she approached two different justices in public settings, asking them to consider the case.

    She has likened not only the U.S. judiciary to the old Soviet Union establishment because of its unwillingness to resolve the dispute, but she’s accused members of the media of becoming like the Soviet press, because they push for Obama’s agenda.

    The question over Obama’s eligibility now also is being raised on billboards nationwide.

  113. rosettasister Says:

    Good morning, good people!

    Thank you all again for your contributions here.

    I keep getting knocked offline — cable ok but no phone or internet.

    As they say, necessity is the mother of invention.

    And I’m forced to finally figure out my BlackBerry.

    But even at gunpoint, you couldn’t force me to actually read the instructions!

    That will never happen!

  114. rosettasister Says:

    8:49 AM Pacific

    (Reposting these links from above. And I’ll try and update these as well.)

    If you’re trying stay updated, may I suggest these sites?





    Realtime results for #iranelection


    You may be able to find more like that here:


  115. rosettasister Says:


    ویدئو: اعتراض خیابانی در تهران – 21 ژوئن


  116. rosettasister Says:


    ویدئوی ارسالی از اعتراض در خیابان مفتح تهران – 22 ژوئن


  117. rosettasister Says:


    ویدئو: اعتراض خیابانی در کرمانشاه – 22 ژوئن


  118. rosettasister Says:


    کروبی: حامیان دولت احمدی نژاد، مروج اسلام متحجر و طالبانی اند


  119. NeConservative Says:

    I’m having trouble even understanding the ‘Joe the six-pack’ version, but, yelling “Audit the Federal Reserve” comes to mind:


    Tuesday, June 23. 2009
    Posted by Karl Denninger in Regulatory at 09:29

    Congress Has No More Excuses
    If you haven’t seen this, you need to.

    Christopher Whalen is a principal of a firm that rates the performance of commercial banks, Institutional Risk Analytics. I have featured some of his writing before in Tickers, but this one, submitted to The Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs yesterday, takes the cake. You must read this in full but for those who are incapable of understanding it, I’ll spell out details for you. Some excerpts:

    Simply stated, the supra-normal returns paid to the dealers in the closed OTC derivatives market are effectively a tax on other market participants, especially investors who trade on open, public exchanges and markets. The deliberate inefficiency of the OTC derivatives market results in a dedicated tax or subsidy meant to benefit one class of financial institutions, namely the largest OTC dealer banks, at the expense of other market participants.

    Translated: The banks make extra-large profits by extracting money from other people in the rest of the market. That is, they have effectively been given the power to levy a tax – something supposedly reserved to Congress.

    The taxpayers in the industrial nations also pay a tax through periodic losses to the system caused by the failure of the victims of OTC derivatives and complex structured assets such as AIGs and Citigroup (NYSE:C).

    Worse, when they blow it, you eat it, not they. Why? Because they have effectively bribed the regulators to speak on their behalf and for their interests, much as allegedly happened with Stanford and the so-called Antiguan banking regulator.

    With CDS and more obscure types of CDOs and other complex mortgage and loan securitizations, however, the basis of the derivative is non-existent or difficult/expensive to observe and calculate, thus the creators of these instruments in the dealer community employ “models” that purport to price these derivatives. The buyer of CDS or CDOs has no access to such models and thus really has no idea whatsoever how the dealer valued the OTC derivative. More, the models employed by the dealers are almost always and uniformly wrong, and are thus completely useless to value the CDS or CDO. The results of this unfair, deceptive market are visible for all to see – and yet the large dealers, including JPM, BAC and GS continue to lobby the Congress to preserve the CDS and CDO markets in their current speculative form.4

    The dealers, the large half-dozen banks that control this market like a cartel, basically making it all up. There is no actual underlying pricing and therefore the price is whatever their computer model says it is, and you can’t see it. Only they can, and they use this against everyone else to effectively rip off everyone trading with them.

    Let’s be clear: Chris is using one example here where the dealer (the big bank) is the SELLER. But there are also cases (e.g. AIG and Goldman) where the big dealer is the BUYER; the seller is in fact selling SHORT, effectively, a product that the dealer has exclusive control of the pricing and model on by which their gains or losses are calculated!

    In my view, CDS contracts and complex structured assets are deceptive by design and beg the question as to whether a certain level of complexity is so speculative and reckless as to violate US securities and anti-fraud laws. That is, if an OTC derivative contract lacks a clear cash basis and cannot be valued by both parties to the transaction with the same degree of facility and transparency as cash market instruments, then the OTC contact should be treated as fraudulent and banned as a matter of law and regulation. Most CDS contracts and complex structured financial instruments fall into this category of deliberately fraudulent instruments for which no cash basis exists.

    The clear version of the above, in English.

    To put this in “Joe Six Pack” speak this “market” is exactly like playing Blackjack against a dealer who has a supply of aces and kings under the table, and uses them to deal blackjacks to himself any time he would like.

    Would you knowingly sit at such a table?

    It is my view and that of many other observers that the CDS market is a type of tax or lottery that actually creates net risk and is thus a drain on the resources of the economic system. Simply stated, CDS and CDO markets currently are parasitic. These market subtract value from the global markets and society by increasing risk and then shifting that bigger risk to the least savvy market participants.

    And let’s not forget who gets all the money. JP Morgan, Goldman, et.al.

    Seen in this context, AIG was the most visible “sucker” identified by Wall Street, an easy mark that was systematically targeted and drained of capital by JPM, GS and other CDS dealers, in a striking example of predatory behavior. Treasury Secretary Geithner, acting in his previous role of President of the FRBNY, concealed the rape of AIG by the major OTC dealers with a bailout totaling into the hundreds of billions in public funds.

    Any questions?

    Chris has been one of the consistent bright lights in this mess since it began.

    I have called for all swaps and other OTC derivatives to be forced onto an exchange. Why? In no small part because I know that not all derivatives can be exchange traded, and should this be forced all the “sham” products would be immediately exposed for what they are and eliminated from the marketplace. Those that are legitimate products would trade with transparent pricing, open interest and volume, thereby contracting spreads to a reasonable level and eliminating the ability of the cabal of dealers to screw their customers.

    Items like FX and Interest-Rate swaps can easily be exchange traded, as the closing price can be computed daily and for most of these products a minute-by-minute price can be computed using transparent and simple formulae. The underlying instruments for these products are real and trade every day – interest rates of course are a matter of public knowledge and trades in the treasury and agency debt market, while currency pairs are quoted on a near-continuous basis. Both sorts of OTC contracts have no real reason to change hands over-the-counter, except to allow some bank to insert a hinky clause here or there that disadvantages the customer, charging an outsize spread or commission for the “privilege.” Indeed there have been several major disputes over this practice between these banks and municipalities that were sold complex interest-rate swaps that in some cases came with allegations of outright bribery or inside dealing.

    But when it comes to these other things like CDOs and CDS, there is no observable market price on which to base the derivative as there is no actual underlying basis. What, for example, is the “risk that GE will go out of business in the next year”? Document how you arrive at your answer please, and good luck coming up with anything that is objectively defensible.

    In short, the nonsense, patronage and outright fraud within both our government and the cabal of dealers must stop now.

    This marks two warnings Congress has had on this matter in written testimony, the first prior to the repeal of Glass-Steagall predicting exactly what has now happened and now, this from Mr. Whalen.

    I have written to Congress on many occasions, including spending thousands of dollars faxing Tickers, white papers and other documents to all 535 members over the previous two years on these points. Congress seems to think that America is a bunch of dolts and will tolerate being literally stuck up at gunpoint to the tune of hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars in a massive collusive scam that reaches all the way to the top of the American Regulatory and Political Systems.

    The American people have every right to hold The Board of Governors of The Federal Reserve, The Federal Reserve Bank of New York, Henry Paulson, Tim Geithner and all 535 Congressional members personally responsible if the abuses, frauds, and scams that have been enabled by the intentional blindness and even complicity of these individuals are not stopped immediately and all past transgressions prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

    We the people have every right to demand and expect that a passel of special prosecutors be empaneled immediately to go over each and every one of these allegations, investigate every agency including The Federal Reserve and its member banks, and where appropriate bring indictments and prosecutions for frauds perpetrated upon the taxpayers, investing public, the states and municipalities of this nation.

  120. rosettasister Says:


    ویدئو: تجمع در میدان هفت تیر تهران – 22 ژوئن


  121. Tenacity Says:

    Chalice says they have proof of Obama’s ineligibility!!!!!!!!

    June 23, 2009 by Chalice


    Carl Swensson, Mack Ellis and Patriot’s Heart Network announce



    TODAY: 1-2pm EDT on Patriot’s Heart Network

    Listen Here:

    More info here:

  122. NeConservative Says:


    June 21, 2009
    A Sign of the Times?
    Larrey Anderson
    Is this the new “justice” for America? A massive armed federal raid in Utah has resulted in two deaths, including the suicide of a popular small town doctor. Those arrested have been accused of stealing American Indian artifacts from federal land.

    The Obama administration’s Secretary of the Interior, Ken Salazar flew to Salt Lake City to proudly announce the raid. But the arrests were conducted in a chilling manner. According to the LA Times:

    Shortly after sunrise last week, a squad of flak-jacketed federal agents surrounded the remote home of Dr. James Redd, arrested his wife and then stopped the 60-year-old doctor as he returned from his morning rounds to arrest him as well….

    Nearly 20 agents had surrounded a pair of mobile homes belonging to septuagenarian brothers and led them away in cuffs….

    Local authorities called the raids overkill.

    Then a day after his arrest, Dr. Redd killed himself….

    Redd, the town’s only physician, was known for traveling to treat patients at all hours. Huge lines formed outside the town mortuary for his wake.

    The Times story says that the US attorney for Utah “noted that many of the defendants own guns, common in this part of the country but still a cause for caution.”

    “Eighteen vehicles surrounded the Redd’s house,” San Juan County Supervisor Bruce Adams said in an interview. “Do we do that with child molesters? With murderers?” He added, “I haven’t seen a piece of pottery or an artifact that’s worth a human life.”

    All of this for stealing shards of pottery. For those Americans who bitterly cling to their guns and Bibles … did you get the message?

    Hat tip: my wife

  123. Fernley Girl Says:

    NeConservative Says:
    June 23, 2009 at 12:20 pm

    from atlasshrugs:
    Monday, June 22, 2009
    Congress and the Unions Exempt from Obamacare

    We get the crap sandwich, Congress and the Unions get Kobe beef.

    Anyone here a legal type? I am wondering if this could be a class action suit…..aren’t they creating two classes of citizens?

  124. rosettasister Says:

    Fernley Girl Says:
    June 23, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    We get the crap sandwich, Congress and the Unions get Kobe beef.

    Anyone here a legal type? I am wondering if this could be a class action suit…..aren’t they creating two classes of citizens?


    I seriously doubt they’ll get anything through with a “public” option.

    But they won’t give up, so neither can we.

  125. rosettasister Says:

    Neda wanted Freedom for everyone!


    Neda Agha-Soltan, who was shot dead by the Islamic regime of Iran’s security forces on Saturday 20 June, wanted freedom for everyone.

    In interviews with the press, her fiancee, Caspian Makan, said ‘Neda was never supportive of either group [referring to the factions in the regime]. She wanted freedom; Freedom for everyone.’

    Her murder has become a rallying point across the world.

    He went on to say: “She was near the area, a few streets away, from where the main protests were taking place, near the Amir-Abad area. She was with her music teacher, sitting in a car and stuck in traffic.

    “She was feeling very tired and very hot. She got out of the car for just a few minutes.

    “That’s when she was shot dead. Eyewitnesses and video footage of the shooting clearly show that probably Basij paramilitaries in civilian clothing deliberately targeted her. Eyewitnesses said they clearly targeted her and she was shot in the chest.

    “She passed away within a few minutes. People tried to take her to the nearest hospital, the Shariati hospital. But it was too late.”

    Makan said Neda’s family struggled to persuade the Iranian authorities to release her body.

    “She was taken to a morgue outside Tehran. The officials from the morgue asked if they could use parts of her corpse for body transplants for medical patients,” he said.

    “They didn’t specify what exactly they intended to do. Her family agreed because they wanted to bury her as soon as possible.

    “We buried her in the Behesht-e-Zahra cemetery in southern Tehran. They asked us to bury her in this section where it seemed the authorities had set aside spaces for graves for those killed during the violent clashes in Tehran last week.”

    The regime banned her family from holding a public funeral.

    He continued: ‘She only ever said that she wanted one thing, she wanted freedom for the people of Iran.’

    The white-haired man who is seen pressing on her chest in the video and repeatedly saying ‘don’t be afraid, Neda dear, don’t be afraid’ was actually her music teacher.

  126. rosettasister Says:

    Latest news from Iran



    After 5 days of not being heard of a female student of Azad university of Bandarabbas , now it has been confirmed by security guards that she has been killed.

    She was shot and taken away by security guards in front of the entrance of Bandarabbas Azad University on June 18th

    To avoid spreading this news and persuading it by Bandarabbas people, her body was buried secretly and without informing her relatives.

  127. rosettasister Says:

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  128. rosettasister Says:

    Taliban Commander Shot Dead in Pakistan


    A Taliban faction leader who criticized the militant group’s Pakistani head over attacks that killed civilians was fatally shot Tuesday, reportedly by one of his own guards.

    The attack on Qari Zainuddin appeared to be a sign that divisions within the Taliban have broken into the open as they come under military assault.

    The army is clearing out militants from the Swat Valley and has been pounding strongholds of Pakistani Taliban leader Baitullah Mehsud in the South Waziristan tribal region bordering Afghanistan in apparent preparation for a major offensive.

    Zainuddin was gunned down in nearby town of Dera Ismail Khan. He had emerged as Mehsud’s chief rival.

  129. rosettasister Says:

    Basij to March on British Embassy Tuesday; Threaten Repeat of American Embassy Takeover


    Statement by the Prime Minister of Canada re Iran


  130. Fernley Girl Says:

    John Thune, Sen. from SD is requesting support for a bill, “The Government Ownership Exit Plan Act of 2009”. On the right side of the page there is a box to sign a petition supporting the bill. Please read the bill and sign the petition if you agree.

    Link here, thanks to Miri at TD’s:


  131. rosettasister Says:

    From earlier this morning:


    To: kristinn

    From persiankiwi http://twitter.com/persiankiwi

    reports of large pro-Gov Baseej militia in front of UK embassy Tehran – #Iranelection
    about 1 hour ago from web
    ppl not sure if national strike today – many busineses closed – #Iranelection
    about 1 hour ago from web
    political prisoners being tortured to deny support for Sea of Green – #Iranelection – prison source
    about 1 hour ago from web
    all over Tehran on walls is written ‘death to the dictator’ – #Iranelection
    about 1 hour ago from web
    The streets of all major citys in Iran is like war time – civil unrest EVERYWHERE – #Iranelection support for Sea of Green EVERYWHERE
    about 1 hour ago from web
    journalist sources – any reports published in Iran are censored in full by Gov first – #Iranelection
    about 1 hour ago from web
    This is militia and what they are doing in Iran to ppl – http://bit.ly/bAvTZ – #Iranelection RT RT RT
    about 1 hour ago from web
    Neda – http://bit.ly/WD9tC – #Iranelection RT RT RT
    about 1 hour ago from web yesterday –
    hundreds of thousands of cars in Tehran streets with lights on to show support for Sea of Green – #Iranelection
    about 1 hour ago from web
    Militia all over Tehran on motorbike beating pedestrians for no reason – #Iranelection – to frightened people
    about 1 hour ago from web
    Gov demos outside UK embassy in Tehran today shouting ‘death to England’ – ‘death to BBC’ – #Iranelection
    about 2 hours ago from web

    53 posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 4:35:51 AM by SE Mom

  132. rosettasister Says:

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  133. rosettasister Says:

    More pics here:

    آلبوم عکس: اعتراضات مخالفان و موافقان نتیجه انتخابات ریاست جمهوری


  134. rosettasister Says:

    Actually, it’s More than a Debate, Mr. President


    Mr. Obama also referenced the courage being shown by protestors in the streets of Tehran, highlighted by the death of the young woman known as Neda.

    If only he would show a little courage himself; unfortunately, there was no mention by the President of the election results having been illegitimate, just that we’re all “bearing witness” as these events unfold.

    How bold.

    Truth is, though, no one should have expected a collectivist like Obama to stand up strongly for individual human liberties, a fact that should outrage women’s rights and homosexual activists given the pass he’s taking on this opportunity to stand up for these particularly oppressed Iranian groups.

    …and then he went right into the topic of the energy bill pending in the House this week, as though he was ticking off items on the agenda and one subject was no more important than the other.

    How grand and historic, this President…

  135. rosettasister Says:

    Highly recommended by Andrew Sullivan



  136. rosettasister Says:

    “I simply must share this Iranian protest song with my readers. It’s incredibly beautiful.”

  137. rosettasister Says:

    John McCain acting very presidential.

    Floor Statment by Senator John McCain on Iran and Health Care 06 22 09

  138. rosettasister Says:

    Fouad Ajami is my go-to-guy on this part of the world.

    Ajami: The education of Mr. Obama; Update: Hot dogs still on the barbie for July 4th, Iran!


    Fouad Ajami writes today that Barack Obama’s response to the Iranian crisis reveals a shallow depth on foreign policy from our new President that his opponents predicted during the campaign.


    Little more than three decades ago, Jimmy Carter, another American president convinced that what had come before him could be annulled and wished away, called on the nation to shed its “inordinate fear of communism,” and to put aside its concern with “traditional issues of war and peace” in favor of “new global issues of justice, equity and human rights.”

    We had betrayed our principles in the course of the Cold War, he said, “fought fire with fire, never thinking that fire is quenched with water.”

    The Soviet answer to that brave, new world was the invasion of Afghanistan in December of 1979.

    Mr. Carter would try an atonement in the last year of his presidency. He would pose as a born-again hawk.

    It was too late in the hour for such redemption.

    It would take another standard-bearer, Ronald Reagan, to see that great struggle to victory.

    Iran’s ordeal and its ways shattered the Carter presidency. President Obama’s Persian tutorial has just begun.

  139. rosettasister Says:

    A lot of video here:


  140. rosettasister Says:

    The son of the late shah of Iran, Reza Pahlavi, was Monday carrying in his breastpocket a photograph of the slain protester known as Neda said to have been killed in the Tehran protests.

    “I have added her (Neda) to the list of my daughters. She is now forever in my pocket,” Pahlavi told AFP fighting back tears, after calling at a press conference for Western media and governments to stand strongly alongside the protest movement in Iran.

  141. rosettasister Says:

    “Which makes it all the more essential that a regime that has lost its legitimacy in the eyes of its people not recover it through international recognition.”


    The Wall Street Journal’s Bret Stephens has an op-ed on the theological challenge to Khamenei/Ahmadinejad that should be read and forwarded.


    In it he interviews a Shiite imam with extraordinary credentials, Mohsen Kadivar.

    Mr. Kadivar believes there are factions within the Revolutionary Guard prepared to side with the demonstrators, the one development that most agree would shatter the regime quickly.

    The decision of the Guardian Council to refuse to annul the election signals the demonstrators that there will be no compromise.


    The messages at Twitter point to strikes outside of Tehran and of a demonstration tomorrow.


    The White House can be counted on to, well, change the subject?

  142. rosettasister Says:

    The CBO takes away, the CBO gives


    Just as a Congressional Budget Office estimate of the cost of healthcare reform ($1.6 trillion over ten years) threw a spanner into the works of that effort,

    a CBO study of cap-and-trade costs ($175 year in 2020) may have given some oomph to the energy plan which is coming to the floor of the House.

    Still, the Senate is going to be a quagmire …

    (No reconciliation instructions for cap-and-trade?)

  143. rosettasister Says:

    Good news, bad news


    Hey, this is good:

    The quarterly CEO Economic Outlook Index rebounded to 18.5 in the second quarter from a record low of negative 5 in the first quarter.

    But this isn’t:

    But it was still the third-lowest reading in the survey’s six-year history. A reading below 50 means CEOs expect economic contraction rather than growth.

    (And here it’s almost July already!)

  144. rosettasister Says:

    Yes, there are still some mustard seeds out there …


    2) Similarly, the most sensitive credit market indicators (interest-rate swap spreads, LIBOR spreads, etc.) have barely budged in recent weeks despite the sagging equity market.

    Indeed, the TED spread has now fallen below the historical median.

    At the same time, corporate bond yields continue to fall, a strong recovery signal.

    3) As we’ve pointed out before, the corporate bond market was probably the most powerful leading indicator of recession, depression and recovery during the 1930s.

    (Okay, I understand corporate bond yields, sort of.)

    (I guess that’s good news!)

  145. rosettasister Says:

    Obama and a second stimulus package


    Actually, it would the third stimulus, counting the one from Bush. The president at his new conference this afternoon:

    (How about repealing Obama’s first “stimulus” and then pass something that would actually be stimulative. Or redirect those funds to cover all Americans in a privately-run healthcare system.)

  146. NeConservative Says:

    from canadafreepress.com

    ACORN International Changes Its Name. Why?

    Matthew Vadum Bio
    Email Article

    By Matthew Vadum Tuesday, June 23, 2009
    ACORN may be about to embark on a huge rebranding effort in order to reinvent itself.

    As I told the Washington Times, the revelation that disgraced ACORN founder Wade Rathke has renamed ACORN International, which is ACORN’s international consultancy, is a sign that Rathke is trying to dissociate the ACORN affiliate from the oceans of bad ink ACORN has received in the U.S. over the last year.

    There’s no point in reinventing the wheel so to speak, so I’ll just quote myself (which I confess feels a little weird).

    “The brand is tarnished and he doesn’t want to be associated with ACORN because of all the problems that he is, ironically, largely responsibly for,” the Washington Times quoted me saying. “He just wants to keep up his community organizing without being burdened by the bad public relations.”

    The new name for the international affiliate is Community Organizations International.

    “This may indeed be the beginning of an ACORN network-wide rebranding, but a rotten ACORN by any other name still stinks,” Newsmax quoted me saying.

    Newsmax reported that I described ACORN International as “a nonprofit group that aspires to spread the gospel of [radical community organizer] Saul Alinsky across the globe.”

    Something about this rebranding-in-progress –if that’s what it really is– doesn’t seem right, though.

    As I noted earlier today, ACORN is suing whistleblower Anita MonCrief to shut her up. ACORN also sent a cease-and-desist letter to the reformers of the ACORN 8 in order to bully them into silence.

    It doesn’t make sense to use up legal resources on these activities if the ACORN network is preparing to change its name in an effort to improve its image. It could be the case that Rathke himself, who was forced out as chief organizer of ACORN last year after officials learned he covered up his brother’s $1 million embezzlement for eight years, took the initiative all by himself.

    It could also be the case that ACORN is serious about protecting its property, including its ACORN trademark (as it claims in the lawsuit against MonCrief and the letter to ACORN 8 ) and told Rathke in no uncertain terms that he couldn’t use it anymore.

    Time will tell.

  147. rosettasister Says:


    We can hear ppl shouting from balcony right now ‘Allah Akbar – death to Khamenei’ –

    all normal life in Iran has stopped – now everybody only talk about Sea of Green and rumours of how Khamenei will go

    the ppl have lost all faith in this Gov – Iran can never be same as b4 again

    the only question now is how will the end happen – peacefully or with civil war

    tomorrow Mousavi annouce start of a new type of protests – peaceful and silent – soon there will be strikes

    there is militia controlling movement from downtown to north of Tehran to stop ppl joining Sea of Green

    we have report of large street battles in east & west of Tehran now

    The parks in north of city are closed at night and militia attacking any ppl in park or walking in streets

    all foreign embassys surrounded by militia to stop ppl going in –

    all hospitals is surrounded by militia to check why ppl going in – if gun or baton injury – they arrest and beat u #Iranelection26 minutes ago from web

  148. calli Says:

    Hi Rosetta,
    How is everything going for you these days? I read the article about John Mccain looking presidential!! I was thinking the same thing just yesterday!! John Mccain is an american hero!! A big thank you to all of our men and women in uniform!! Read any good books lately!! I will buy Larry Sinclair’s book for sure!! You know what they say about curiosity!!!

  149. rosettasister Says:

    calli Says:
    June 23, 2009 at 6:56 pm

    Hi Rosetta,
    How is everything going for you these days?


    Thanks for asking, calli! I am well, my family is well. No complaints.

    Thankful to be an American and a child of God!

    How ’bout you?

  150. rosettasister Says:


    Those who think they can foresee the outcome of this revolutionary war have greater confidence in their prophetic powers than I.

    I don’t think Mousavi or Khamenei has any such confidence; they are fighting it out, as they must.

    Victory or defeat can come about slowly or rapidly, the result of cunning, courage or accident, and most likely a combination of all three.

    One thing seems certain: the Iranian people were right when they realized that nobody in the outside world would help them.

    They’re on their own.

    Which is indeed a great pity, and a terrible stain on our national virtue.

    UPDATE: Welcome Instapunditeers, spend some time with the comments, some of which are really thoughtful.

    UPDATE II: Anne Applebaum, the terrific historian and columnist for the WaPo, [5] has noticed the importance of “the women.”


    You’d expect her to understand this sort of phenomenon better than others, given her deep involvement with the Polish underground resistance to Communism (and she may benefit, in this as in other regards, from her marriage to the Polish foreign minister Radek Sikorsky).

    One quibble: I don’t think it’s quite fair to say that Mousavi “uses” his wife, heh.

    UPDATE III: The newly-converted Roger Cohen (how long before Andrew Sullivan brands him as a disgusting ‘neocon’? After all, he looks Jewish) also[6] gets it:


    UPDATE IV: Should have linked [7] this yesterday, story of a senior IRGC commander arrested for refusing to attack peaceful demonstrators.


  151. hockeyfan530 Says:

    Anyone able to listen to this? If so what’s the “breaking news”?

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  152. NeConservative Says:

    from NRO

    Tuesday, June 23, 2009

    Keep the Lights On! [Iain Murray]

    It looks like the Waxman-Markey Global Warming Tax bill is going to come to the floor of the House late this week. This was in some doubt, but it looks like Waxman and co have bought off enough of the rural Democrats to have a chance of passing the bill. It is vitally important for the American economy that this bill goes down, so CEI has issued the following action alert:

    House Democratic leaders plan to bring to the floor this week the Waxman-Markey energy-rationing bill, H. R. 2454. If enacted, Waxman-Markey would be the biggest tax increase in the history of the world and the biggest government intervention in people’s lives since the second World War, which is the last time that Americans needed ration coupons to buy gasoline, food, and other necessities. The energy price increases required by H. R. 2454, the American Clean Energy and Security Act, are not a one-time event, but will go up steadily year after year until at least 2050.

    Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-San Francisco) and Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Henry Waxman (D-Beverly Hills) are moving ahead with their stupendous energy-rationing bill despite strong statements from China and India that they will not similarly hamper their economies and impoverish their peoples. Waxman-Markey is all pain and no gain.

    Waxman-Markey is a 1201-page economic suicide note. Those Members of the House who vote for it are voting for long-term economic decline and for turning the United States into a second-rate economy.

    We urge that voters contact their Representative immediately by calling the House switchboard at (202) 225-3121. Tell your Representative to vote No on H. R. 2454, the American Clean Energy and Security Act. Voters may also send their Member an e-mail by going to http://www.cei.org/1984 and clicking on the link to the action page.

    No doubt some will try to argue that the CBO has worked out that the bill will cost a pittence. David Kreutzer explains why that is a gross underestimate here.

    In the meantime, please take action and circulate this action alert to your friends.

    06/23 12:08 PMShare

  153. rosettasister Says:


    The Senate Health panel has yet to unveil details of a public health insurance option expected in its version of the legislation. Sen. Christopher Dodd, D-Conn., who is leading efforts on the legislation in lieu of the ailing Kennedy, said Tuesday that concerns about the cost of the bill have kept committee Democrats from finalizing the public plan provision and a proposed requirement that employers provide health coverage or face a penalty.

    Republicans on the committee strongly oppose both provisions.

    The Senate Finance Committee is drafting its own version of health-care legislation, but it is still attempting to negotiate the measure on a bipartisan basis. Some Democrats on that panel, such as Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., have warned that health-care legislation containing a public plan could not meet a 60-vote threshold needed to pass most legislation in the U.S. Senate.

    Conrad has sought support for a non-governmental health co-operative that would see start-up funding from the federal government but that would eventually be run by its members. But Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., also a member of the Senate Finance panel, has stated that the co-op idea may not see support from some Senate Democrats.


    HH: Senator Kyl, let’s switch to the domestic side.

    It seems as though the Obama-Pelosi-Reid plan of a government plan, or a government option, or a public plan on the health care side, is dying a very public death.

    Can we begin to celebrate yet?

    JK: These guys don’t quit. No, not until you’ve driven the dagger through the heart and it’s been declared dead.

    Their latest iteration of this government-run plan is something that was born innocently enough through a Senator from North Dakota, who said well, why don’t we then have a co-op, because of course in the Midwest, you have grain co-ops.

    And actually, there are co-ops in the state of Arizona, and I think in every other state where people in the community get together in order to pool their resources and benefit from that activity.

    But that’s not what the Democrats have in mind here.

    Chuck Schumer was very blatant about it.

    He said this has got to be big enough, it’s got to be nationwide, it’s got to be financed by the federal government, we have to appoint the board of directors, we have to back it up.

    In other words, the way that it could pass a Democrat Congress would only be a government-run plan by another name.

    It would never be the sort of innocent thing that Kent Conrad, the Democrat from North Dakota, originally had in mind.

    (I just happened to hear this interchange live yesterday, and I was very troubled by it. Just when it seems that “public” option might not have a chance, then some Repubs just say no to something else. I don’t believe Kyl speaks for Grassley. And I don’t believe Schumer necessarily gets to decide the details about these coops. But I do believe most Americans want everyone covered in a privately-run healthcare system. If not with Conrad’s coops, then just exactly how are we going to accomplish that?)

  154. NeConservative Says:


    I listened, and it’s being delayed until they can get something confirmed. Anyway, I think Tenacity’s over there, but, according to the live blog feed, no news yet.

    hockeyfan530 Says:

    June 23, 2009 at 7:18 pm
    Anyone able to listen to this? If so what’s the “breaking news”?

    *** This show referenced above by Tenacity starts now. ***


  155. rosettasister Says:

    hockeyfan530 Says:
    June 23, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    Sorry, fan.

    There was a delay and I think we just have to wait until Ten or someone updates.

  156. rosettasister Says:

    June 23, 2009

    Interview and discussion with Sen. Kent Conrad of North Dakota. He talks about the health-care reform effects in everyone’s lives. (Bloomberg News)

  157. rosettasister Says:

    This is not going to play well in middle America.


    The letter follows growing efforts in the Senate to fashion a compromise on the controversial issue of creating a new government-run insurance plan as part of overhauling health care.

    Sen. Kent Conrad , D-N.D., for example, has suggested creating member-run health insurance co-operatives as a form of public plan instead of creating a government-run insurance alternative to private health insurance.

    But the insurers appeared to reject that attempt at compromise.

    “A government-run plan — no matter how it is initially structured — would dismantle employer-based coverage, significantly increase costs for those who remain in private coverage, and add additional liabilities to the federal budget,” the letter says.

    (Conrad’s coops are not government-run. Sounds to me like the players already in the private sector are scared of a little competition from the coop down the street.)

    (First it was NO single-payer, then NO “public” option, now NO coops! Who do they think they’re kidding?!)

    This is like my local Safeway not being able to compete with the little coop I used to belong to in downtown Tempe

    Maybe some Repubs really just want to kill any healthcare reform. Do they honestly believe that’s going to help balance things in 2010?!

  158. NeConservative Says:


    Senate Blocks Pro-Tiller Resolution Glorifying Abortion Industry
    LifeSiteNews ^ | 6/23/09 | Kathleen Gilbert

    Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 2:47:50 PM by wagglebee

    WASHINGTON, D.C., June 23, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) – The Senate yesterday blocked a resolution praising the “crucial services” of abortionists and condemning violence against them in the wake of Kansas late-term abortionist George Tiller’s murder last month.

    The resolution, sponsored by Senators Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), Barbara Boxer (D-CA), and Amy Klobuchar (D-MN), decried violence against “providers of health care services to women” and asserted, “there is a history of violence against providers of reproductive health care, as health care employees have suffered threats and hostility in order to provide crucial services to patients.”

    The resolution failed to gather adequate support after Shaheen refused requests by some of her colleagues to strike the language celebrating the abortion industry. Shaheen expressed frustration at the resolution’s demise.

    “I realize that the issue of reproductive choice is divisive and that there are many heartfelt feelings on both sides of the aisle,” said Shaheen in a press release. “However, I was hopeful that, regardless of our differences of opinion on this sensitive issue, the Senate could come together and pass a resolution that rejects the use of violence against women’s health care providers.

    “It is a sad day when the elected leaders of the greatest Democracy on earth can’t agree to protect those exercising their constitutional rights.”

    The U.S. House of Representatives earlier this month unanimously passed a similar resolution condemning the Tiller killing and other murders that took place in a house of worship, without mentioning Tiller’s profession. Tiller was killed May 31 at Reformation Lutheran Church, where he was serving as an usher.

    Tony Perkins, President of the Family Research Institute, praised the Senate’s rejection of Sheehan’s resolution.

    “What an encouragement to the pro-life community that while some Senators may vote in favor of abortion, they stand strongly against any effort to glorify it,” said Perkins.

    “Like us, they realize that just as violence cannot be tolerated, neither can any effort to exalt those who practice it against the unborn.”

    See related LifeSiteNews.com coverage:

    Pro-life Leaders Face Death Threats, Require Protection from Abortion Rights Radicals

    How George Tiller Drove his Own Employee to Join Operation Rescue

  159. jrinNC Says:

    hockeyfan530 Says:
    June 23, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    Anyone able to listen to this? If so what’s the “breaking news”?
    This info was on the American Grand Jury Website

    “It is official. Mack Ellis (Southeastern Director for American Grand Jury) and Carl Swensson (Official Ambassador to American Grand Jury) are traveling to Washington DC a few days after the SUPER JURY presentments are handed down. The date is around the end of the month.

    They will personally be serving Barry Soetoro, Nancy Pelosi, Eric Holder and some other notable criminals in office with the Indictment against Obama. ”


  160. rosettasister Says:

    NeConservative Says:
    June 23, 2009 at 8:16 pm


    Senate Blocks Pro-Tiller Resolution Glorifying Abortion Industry


    That is indeed good news, NeC!

  161. rosettasister Says:



  162. Tenacity Says:

    Swensson had to delay his announcement. They were waiting for some final word that something had taken place prior to announcing. I’m sure we will get the scoop soon. Swensson said that it would take an hour and that was over 3 hours ago. Chalice should be back shortly and I should be able to advise when the story will break.

  163. rosettasister Says:

    Thanks for the update, Ten!

  164. sdee Says:

    MIT Technology Review on US “Clean Energy” legislation.

    I hate everything about this. It looks like the EU cap-n-trade is a miserable and expensive failure. Waxman, our resident energy genius, has a bill that not only replicates the EU disaster but our Congressional Idiots have managed to learn nothing from it and are even magnifying the EU mistakes.

    “”What is especially disappointing is that even as the Europeans seek to undo many of the features that have made their carbon-trading system weak and dysfunctional, legislators in Washington seem determined to repeat their mistakes. Representatives Henry Waxman (D-CA) and Edward ­Markey (D-MA) introduced energy legislation built around a cap-and-trade system this spring, with the same concessions to carbon-intensive industries that neutralized the EU’s trading system.””


  165. Katie Says:

    Tenacity Says:
    June 23, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    Swensson had to delay his announcement. They were waiting for some final word that something had taken place prior to announcing. I’m sure we will get the scoop soon. Swensson said that it would take an hour and that was over 3 hours ago. Chalice should be back shortly and I should be able to advise when the story will break.
    Word spreads fast – they are waiting on pins and needles over at Citizen Wells, too.

  166. rosettasister Says:

    For Neda and her fellow martyrs and for the living:


  167. rosettasister Says:

    Sea of Green = Sea of Consciousness


    A Little Story

    I was a very good first grade teacher. Just teaching little ones to read and write for the first time really is enough in itself.

    But many of my little ones, their first language went from right to left like Farsi and Hebrew.

    So, on a spelling test they would spell “love” e-v-o-l.

    Now that was a bit of an extra challenge, but I loved every minute of it.

    This is the interesting part.

    I taught mostly Iranian Jews. (and Russian Jews, too)

    And their parents!

    My God, they were so beautiful!

    But especially the moms would say to me, “You should learn Persian.”

    Not Hebrew, but Persian.

  168. rosettasister Says:

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