U.S. envoy says Pakistan shows new vigor in fight



‘Where are the Europeans? Where is the OIC?’ Ambassador Richard Holbrooke had asked during his visit to the Shah Mansoor Camp. —Reuters/File


The U.S. envoy to Pakistan and Afghanistan said on Wednesday he had noticed a dramatic change in Pakistan’s attitude toward fighting Islamist extremists during his visit there last week.

Richard Holbrooke told reporters he believed Pakistan’s leadership was strong enough to win the fight against the Taliban, a change in tone from earlier this year when the incoming Obama administration was skeptical about Islamabad’s resolve.

“What I saw in Pakistan on this trip was a slow emergence of a consensus behind the government’s actions,” Holbrooke said.

“Everywhere there was a dramatic change in attitude from my previous trips because of the outrages of the Taliban,” he added. “All of us are impressed by the military’s actions in the recent weeks.”

The Pakistani military launched an offensive in the Swat valley in May, heartening U.S. officials and other allies who had feared the nuclear-armed country could slide into chaos.

There are expectations the army will now turn its attention to other Taliban strongholds, like the South Waziristan tribal region bordering Afghanistan, once Swat has been dealt with.

“Everyone recognizes that instability in Pakistan poses a threat to everywhere else,” he added.


Adnkronos International (AKI) has learned that the Hakimullah Mehsud and the Islamist group, Lashkar-i-Jangvi and others from the Omar group conducted the suicide bombing on the Pearl Continental Hotel in Peshawar.


Orakzai agency does not touch any border with Afghanistan but it is situated in the middle of Khyber Agency, the route of the NATO’s supply line, Kurram Agency and very close to Peshawar.

The Taliban do not exist in Khyber Agency nor in Kurram Agency nor in Peshawar.

They have established themselves very firmly in Orakzai from where they send their men and resources to the areas like Khyber Agency, Kurram Agency and to Peshawar.


Baitullah Mehsud

The emir of Orakzai’s Islamic Emirates is Moulvi Saeed but the public face of the Taliban is Hakimullah Mehsud, a relative of Baitullah Mehsud.

The Taliban of the Orakzai have very strong coordination with the Taliban of Darra Adam Khel, a town known for the local manufacturing of arms and ammunition.

Darra Adam Khel Taliban include the anti-Shia group Laskhar-e-Jhangvi, the group who abducted and beheaded Polish engineer, Piotr Stanczak, in September last year, the Arif Group, Ikram Group in Kohat and the Omar Group in Peshawar.

The Tuesday blast was the joint venture of Hakeemullah Mehsud group, the Omar Group of and the Laskhar-e-Jhangvi group of Darra Adam Khel.

74 Responses to “U.S. envoy says Pakistan shows new vigor in fight”

  1. rosettasister Says:

    cynkading Says:
    June 10, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    This was on Lame Cherry’s site and thought I would post it. I found comfort in his words.

    Barack Obama’s Omen Tree

    Since August 2008, this blog has catalogued the major signs or omens associated with Barack Obama in showing that very bad things are destined to happen to him and America. The proof of the signs from the Spiritual are in evidence in how bad things have degenerated in America under Obama after George W. Bush actually had things stabilized.

    On June 9th, 2009, an event occurred which is another refinement and affirmation of the signs which foretell the utter ruin of Barack Obama.
    On this afternoon a storm rolled in and snapped off a European linden at it’s base. This tree was located in front of the West Wing and Pennsylvania Avenue and was planted in 1940 by the help apparently and not by an American President in Franklin Roosevelt.
    The fate of this tree is to be ground up and used as mulch by ground crews.

    The interpretation of such omens is fluid but certain in God, but the symbolism is profound and far reaching.

    The prediction is a storm as in chaos will come upon the White House executive by forces in this world and guided from the Spiritual.
    It is fitting that as Barack Obama is a hireling working for the central European axis as exposed here, that of all trees, it would be a European linden which would be struck signifying that Obama’s power source is cut off.

    Crucially the main part which makes a tree a visual tree was snapped off from it’s base, the root of his power and his support is shown, it will end violently and swiftly.

    1940 being the date of FDR which Barack Obama has attempted to link to in person, and, in Obama’s strangulating the US economy to bring on near depression terms in mirror of what FDR did to grab more power, notes that the storm downing this tree that this time it will end in violent failure.

    The location of the tree in front of the West Wing, where Obama and Axelrod Inc. reside, along with it being Pennsylvania Avenue as the corridor where executives enter and leave the seat of power notes a fracturing or cutting off of the executive to the flow of power coming from the American people.

    The tree is snapped off directly, pointing at the West Wing with a slight left tilt. The omen is directly pointing at Barack Obama.

    This is not a Presidential tree as in one a President planted. This is a tree which the help planted and it’s European origins mark it as an Obama omen tree.

    The end of the tree in being ground up and scattered as mulch by common people, notes that there will be no glorious remembrance of Barack Obama.

    Trees are Biblical in being signs of witness and pagan worship. Abraham planted a tree as a sign in covenant. Due to their longevity, their life force and their reaching to the heavens, they are one of the strongest signs as omens when involved with humans. In many ways, the tree is human of the flora world.

    The interpretation is certain in this and I will not in God’s Spirit delve into this deeper as I do not want to know the details beyond what has already been noted here previously in utter ruin is linked to Barack Hussein Obama.

    This omen tree confirms that prophecy once again.

    agtG 229

  2. rosettasister Says:

    Troy Says:
    June 10, 2009 at 6:33 pm

    Shots fired in Holocaust Museum


    Media is already spinning it as a “white supremacist”

  3. rosettasister Says:

    cynkading Says:
    June 10, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    “I do not want to know the details beyond what has already been noted here previously.”


    About all I can add to that is just a vague notion that Somebody up there doesn’t like Barack Obama.

    And I’ll repeat the strange dream I had shortly before the November election in which I said to him,

    “Good luck getting blamed for everything that goes wrong the next four years!”

    Just a dream, or was it?

  4. rosettasister Says:

  5. rosettasister Says:


    A home for all of us , is now a days once agian turned into fire, crying and Sorrows.

    The lights are dim once agian. life is gtg hard there…

    Peshawar Is burning once again and no one is there to extinguish the fire.

    Please Pray for peshawar and play your role to protect your home as the peshawar needs its Sons and Daughters to convert this fire into waves of shining lights and hopes.

    I must mention One name Mr Javed Aziz Khan ,The News Peshawar for his Support and Material provided…Pictures and Songs suggestions …..

    So Thanks Alot To Javed Aziz , Without His efforts this would not be possible to laucnh this vedio….

    Deera deera manaa

  6. cynkading Says:

    You know I am so very pissed……Shepherd Smith is just such an arrogant twit. He acted all high and mighty on his show and downplayed Obama’s birth certificate and him being a muslim thing. He said he did not want anymore emails about the birth certificate. Well boo hoo. So he just wants to only pick and choose like the rest of the media about what is true or false reporting.

  7. Troy Says:

    Sheppard “Teabag Licker” Smith (Fox News) just now compared the people who know that Obama is not a natural born citizen to crazy murdering white supremacists.

    Eff off Shep!!!

  8. Troy Says:

    They (MSM) are waisting no time in spinning the halocaust museum shooting story into a “the dangerous internet breeds these white supremacists” story = leg work for shutting down the current internet and ushering in the new government regulated/controled Internet II.

  9. Troy Says:


  10. Troy Says:

    The leftards at MSNBC love to dish it out, but can’t take it.


  11. rosettasister Says:

    Troy Says:
    June 10, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    Sheppard “Teabag Licker” Smith (Fox News) just now compared the people who know that Obama is not a natural born citizen to crazy murdering white supremacists.

    Eff off Shep!!!


    Why would he even go there?!

  12. amy1 Says:

    Evidently, Shep does not like Rushs comments today about Obama not having a BC

  13. j.b. Says:

    RUSH was FIRE today! He “joked” about the BC three times!
    Phuck Shep.
    Anyone else PISSED OFF at Letterman’s “joke” at the expense of a 14 year old girl?

    I finally understand his obsession with Sarah palin. Have you seen his wife? lmao.

  14. Tenacity Says:

    Would you guys stop all the gay bashing please? Poor Shep was just born that way and can’t help it. I mean, come on, if your ancestors are monkeys, you can’t expect a person to be able to make choices that please everyone all the time. Give the victim a break…he relates to Obama. When you attack Obama, Shep’s wounded inner child feels the pain. I’m sure that hearing the word Obamanation is particularly painful for him. You guys need to take some sensitivity training.

  15. Tenacity Says:

    j.b. Says:
    June 10, 2009 at 10:31 pm
    I don’t think you’re his type.

  16. j.b. Says:

    Ha. You got that right.

  17. j.b. Says:

    From Hillbuzz (these guys are all over this, thank GOD);

    CBS Contact Info: (212) 975-4321

    CBS Executives:

    Nina Tassler = nina.tassler@cbs.com

    Kelly Kahl = kelly.kahl@cbs.com

    Kim Sartori = kim.sartori@cbs.com

    Les Moonves = lmoonves@cbs.com

    UPDATE: Our advice is to focus on three advertisers:

    (1) M&M Mars

    (2) Best Western

    (3) Embassy Suites

    Reason: remember when Michael Phelps was caught with his marijuana bong? Kellogg’s cereal dropped him like a hot potato because its brand image is child-focused for most of its products. Speedo won’t ever drop Phelps, no matter what he does, but we doubt he’ll ever have his face on a McDonald’s happy meal again either.

    No candy company will want to be associate with raping 14 year-olds.

    And hotel companies are ALWAYS terrified of being associated with rape (which, sadly, happens at hotels more than the casual traveler realizes…with hotels spending a lot of money in PR to mitigate exposure whenever violent criminal acts like that happen on their premises).

    Lexus, Capitol One, and the other advertisers might not like being harassed because of their support for Letterman and his misogynistic jokes, but we doubt they’ll drop him because his demographics are too enticing.

    BUT, a concerted effort directed at M&M Mars, Best Western, and Embassy Suites could be interesting.

    “M&Ms: the candy for people who think rape is super funn!”

    “Stay at Best Western so you can stay up late and watch jokes about rape!”

    “Embassy Suites: the place you go to watch CBS talk about raping 14 year-olds!”

    Now, those should have brand managers racing for the phone if a focus and spirited effort is directed at hammering them each and every day until their ads stop appearing on Letterman’s show and website.

    In this economy, a loss of three big advertisers like that will indeed be noticed by CBS.

    Please, please, please join me (and thousands of others) to let OUR collective voice be heard on this one! Write these 3 advertisers and let them know where YOU stand on “jokes” about statutory rape.
    Seriously, Dave has gone TOO FAR this time.
    This is just ONE WEEK after that horrible; “Conservative Women I’d Like To Hate F*ck”, by some scab at Playboy.com.

    If we don’t speak out, who will?

  18. cynkading Says:

    I feel the need to ask a question here. I first want to say that I have only been watching Fox News only since around last August. Sooo am I understanding that Shep Smith could be gay or am I just picking on him?

  19. cynkading Says:

    be back after church to find out the answer to this question:)

  20. sliderblaze Says:

    shep looks like he puts from the rough.

    RushLimbaugh.com center column

    “You have to admit they have something in common.”

  21. calli Says:

    Hi rosetta,
    How are you? I must say msm is gearing up for 2012!! Just look at the way they are bashing Sara Palin, again!! It’s a pattern with these guys!! Sara Palin does not have to kiss butt to get ahead!! Looks like some of the msm did!!!
    Sara Palin should run in 2012!!! She has my vote!!!

  22. Tenacity Says:

    When you get back from church, go here for some juicy gossip:

    I’m betting with that lead in, most of you will check out that link, because sick minds want to know. Okay, no comments about why I was reading the gawker.

  23. sliderblaze Says:

    the whole article is bullshit, except for the gay Shep…lol FNC taking heat? no, they are trashing ever other cable news outlet. by over 2-1. especially because shep isnt the face of FNC.

    so why are you reading the Gawker?

  24. Tenacity Says:

    Mario Puzzo is quite interesting on Patriot’s Heart Radio right now.

  25. Tenacity Says:

    Hi Slider!!
    I previously went looking for evidence of Smith being a …..well, you know.

  26. Troy Says:

    Yes, I too previously did a little research on Shep “Pickle Puffer” Smith.
    I think he and Anderson Cooper would make a lovely couple….Barf!!!

    Shep belongs on Fox News about as much as Lou Dobbs belongs at CNN…Hey, I have an idea….Fox and CNN should make a trade and put these two where they fit in….Lou rocks!!!!

  27. Troy Says:

    j.b. Says:

    June 10, 2009 at 10:31 pm
    RUSH was FIRE today! He “joked” about the BC three times!
    Phuck Shep.
    Anyone else PISSED OFF at Letterman’s “joke” at the expense of a 14 year old girl?

    I finally understand his obsession with Sarah palin. Have you seen his wife? lmao.
    If I were Todd Palin I would be hopping on a plane to pay David Letterpuss a little visit…..Two hits, Todd hits Dave and Dave hits the floor. 😀

  28. Troy Says:

    UPDATE: Our advice is to focus on three advertisers:

    (1) M&M Mars

    (2) Best Western

    (3) Embassy Suites
    The person, if he were any kind of man at all, that should turn the tables on Letterman is Alex Rodriguez…..Afterall, Dave insinuated that A-Rod was a pedophile and rapist….The conservative media needs to hound A-Rod about this until he contacts Dave and demands an apology….A boycott against the network and it’s advertisers should follow next.

  29. Troy Says:

    Liberals: Holocaust Shooting Right Wing Hate

    by DefendUSx June 10, 2009 19:16

    Something doesn’t seem right here, pardon the pun. The instantaneous, collective kneejerk from liberal pundits to blame the Holocaust Museum shooting on “right wing hate” stinks. It’s as if this is a preemptive strike to cover something that may be soon be revealed about them…

    I don’t think you can deny that there is a rising climate of right wing hate, a lot of it directed at Obama. You and I go way back to the beginning of the campaign and the level of craziness. He’s a secret Muslim. He hates America. He wasn’t born here. Now this guy, Von Brunn, he’s, he, he was one of the birthers. He didn’t believe in Obama’s birth certificate and he was constantly online agitating about that.
    — Joan Walsh, Salon.com, on Hardball

    No wonder Walsh works for Salon. There are reports that Von Brunn was a liberal “9/11 Truther” who hated “neocons”, Bush and McCain specifically. Inconvenient truth, and I won’t waste a “bonehead” on her.

    And there was this…

    They absolutely need to be motivated and are being motivated. Each of these episodes in recent weeks- whether it’s the killing of an abortion doctor- whether it was this Holocaust denier today, or whether it was others- whether you’re talking about Tim McVeigh or anti-tax secessionists in Texas- the interesting thing is they’re all separate, but they’re all hearing portions of the same echo chamber, a kind of dialogue- a toxic dialogue that’s subterranean in large parts.
    — Wayne Slater, Dallas Morning News, on CNN

    Go to the liberal blogs and see who holds the title on death wishes for their political and ideological opponents.

    And it would seem to me that if you were to add up the numbers, you would probably find the majority of vocal, public anti-semitism on college campuses, and we all know who runs them….

    From blackandright.com

  30. Tenacity Says:

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    It’s my honor to have as my guest Stewart Rhodes, former Ron Paul staffer and founder of the Oath Keepers, on the Let’s Talk Liberty internet radio program on the Patriot’s Heart Network on Thursday night at 9pm EST.

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    To find out more about them, here’s their website:


    Stewart Rhodes and I will be talking about how to get the military, ex-military, police, firemen, etc. on OUR SIDE in our States. If you know a person in the military, or ex-military, or police, or fire department, forward this message to them!

    The radio program can be found here:


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    Monday, March 16, 2009
    Tuesday, 17 March 2009

    To Mr. Barack Obama

    Via: U.S Attorney Russell Dedrick, and Assistant U.S. Attorney Edward Schmutzer, Eastern District, Tennessee

    From: Walter Francis Fitzpatrick, III, United States Navy Retired

    Distribution: Wide


    I have observed and extensively recorded invidious attacks by military-political aristocrats against the Constitution for twenty years.

    Now you have broken in and entered the White House by force of contrivance, concealment, conceit, dissembling, and deceit. Posing as an impostor president and commander in chief you have stripped civilian command and control over the military establishment. Known military criminal actors—command racketeers—are now free in the exercise of military government intent upon destruction of America’s constitutional government.

    Free from constitutional restraint, and following your criminal example, military commanders deployed U.S. Army active duty combat troops into the small civilian community of Samson, Alabama last week in a demonstration of their newly received despotic, domestic police power.

    We come now to this reckoning. I accuse you and your military-political criminal assistants of TREASON. I name you and your military criminal associates as traitors. Your criminal ascension manifests a clear and present danger. You fundamentally changed our form of government. The Constitution no longer works.

    Confident holding your silent agreement and admission, I identify you as a foreign born domestic enemy.

    My sworn duty Mr. Obama is to stand against what you stand for. You are not my president. You are not my commander in chief.

    Obedient to the Constitution in submission of this criminal accusation I remain steadfast, and

    Born fighting,
    /s/ (notarized)
    Walter Francis Fitzpatrick, III
    United States Naval Academy, Class of 1975

  31. Tenacity Says:

    When my last post gets out of moderation, it is referring to tonight, Thursday.

  32. cynkading Says:

    Thought this was interesting. Shooter connected with far right British National Party. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1192137/White-supremacist-89-opens-crowded-U-S-Holocaust-Memorial-Museum.html

  33. rosettasister Says:

    cynkading Says:
    June 11, 2009 at 5:02 pm


    Thanks cynka!

    Shep Smith attacks right-wing ‘crazies’

    Rips people questioning eligibility as being ‘out there in a scary place’


    So Smith equates Birthers with Jew-hating Anti-Semites?!

    He’s definitely going into my Keith Olbermann category!

    What a maroon! What an ignoranimus!

    Listen here:


  34. rosettasister Says:

    Stopping “The Government Option”



    The AMA finally got into the game this week, but not before defining itself in the eyes of most of its members as incredibly useless or worse-than-useless in the battle to stop the radical restructuring of American medicine.


    Doctors have to act on their own behalf and be their own activists as discussed below, though Docs4PatientCare.org is a great place for genuine M.D. activism to focus.


    But the AMA convention gets a visit from President Obama!


    Some attention was given yesterday to the creation of nonprofit “cooperatives” to assist in the purchase of health insurance. If these cooperatives were not managed by the federal government, they would be a much preferred alternative to the “government option.”


    In today’s Wall Street Journal, Karl Rove concludes that “[i]f Democrats enact a public-option health-insurance program, America is on the way to becoming a European-style welfare state.”


    The first three calls should go to Max Baucus, Kent Conrad and Chris Dodd, with the message to Dodd being especially blunt:

    If the “government option” comes out of the Senate, a check goes into your opponent Rob Simmons’ coffers.

    (Along with Baucus, Dodd is the most important senator in the crafting of this legislation.)

    The contact info for the Blue Dogs in the House is here.


    Senators can be reached via the Senate switchboard: 202-225-3121. Here are the ones to call after you call Senators Baucus, Conrad and Dodd:

    Arkansas’ Blanche Lincoln

    New York’s Kirsten Gillibrand

    Indiana’s Evan Bayh

    North Dakota’s Byron Dorgan

    Colorado’s Michael Bennet

    Pennsylvania’s Arlen Specter

    Oregon’s Ron Wyden

    Washington’s Patty Murray and

    yes, Nevada’s Harry Reid. If Majority Leader Reid turns against the “government option,” it is dead.

    Doctors need to call these offices via the Senate switchboard, 202-225-3121 and deliver the blunt message:

    The government option will cripple American medicine and anyone who supports it is an enemy of doctors and health care professionals.

  35. rosettasister Says:


    June 11, 2009

    Senator Grassley focused his remarks to the Greater Des Moines Partnership on the topic of health care reform.

  36. rosettasister Says:

    Health Care Reform Enters Critical Phase

    As Obama Promotes His Plan, CBSNews.com Examines The Status Of The Health Care Debate In Washington


    The Public Plan

    Advocates for reform say the public option would help make health care more affordable for consumers.

    A well-cited study by the Lewin Group shows that if Medicare payment levels were used in the public plan, premiums would be up to 30 percent less than premiums for comparable private coverage.

    The study estimates more than 119 million people would switch from private to public insurance if the plan were open to everyone.

    But a government-sponsored plan would ultimately lead to a government “monopoly” over health care, some conservatives argue, thereby stripping patients of choice.

    In a letter to the president Monday, nine Senate Republicans from one of the committees responsible for health care characterized this shift in care as “119.1 million Americans losing their private coverage.”

    “Forcing free market plans to compete with these government-run programs would create an unlevel playing field and inevitably doom true competition,” the letter says.

    Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.), who has led health care reform in the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (HELP) Committee and introduced the bill now in play, has emphasized his support for a public option but acknowledged in a statement at the bill’s release that “much work remains, and the coming days and weeks won’t be easy.”

    The HELP committee will begin the “mark up” process of amending the bill on Tuesday and aims to ready the bill for a full Senate vote by the second half of July.

  37. rosettasister Says:

    Snowe tells Obama aide health care approach

    The Maine Republican prefers private-market reforms, with a publicly funded system used only as a safety net.


    Snowe’s meeting with Nancy-Ann DeParle, the White House director of health reform

    The principle hurdle facing Democrats is winning Republican support for a reform that includes a national health insurance option.

    Obama and most Democrats argue that a public option is needed to make affordable care available to all.

    Republicans contend that a public plan would promote unfair competition and eventually drive private companies out of business.

    Though Snowe says she is willing to embrace a national plan as a last-ditch option, U.S. Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, has not taken a detailed position on the issue.

    Collins, who does not serve on a committee dealing with health care, has said she wants to see the particulars of whatever legislation arrives on the Senate floor.

  38. rosettasister Says:

    Leftys Continue to Trash Olympia Snowe


    The Latest Public Option Bamboozle, and How to Recognize the Real Thing


    Let nonprofits create health-care cooperatives, and call them the public option.

    Kent Conrad came up with this bamboozle.

    Finance chair Baucus is impressed, and some Republicans — even Grassley — seem interested.

    Watch your wallets.

    The Conrad compromise is getting a good reception from across the aisle, just as Olympia Snowe’s “trigger”

    (whereby no public option until some time down the pike, and only if Pharma and Insurance don’t bring down and extend coverage a tad)

    is also gaining traction.

    (So now “public” option – single payer advocates really don’t like Olympia Snowe AND Kent Conrad.)

  39. cynkading Says:

    Rabbi: Obama Breeds Climate of Hate Against http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/obama_holocaust_museum/2009/06/10/223863.html We are soooo in trouble on so many levels. You know there is no way Obama could be a Christian because in order to be a Christian then you should realize that if you deal harshly with Israel than God will come after you. Genesis 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee , and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. It is just a matter of God’s timing before the grapes of wrath are poured out. I think they are beginning to be poured out now.

  40. rosettasister Says:

    Health insurance co-op gets another look


    Conrad’s plan for establishing a co-operative would require a public infusion of money in the beginning.

    But it would not be operated or controlled by the government.

    “A co-op is run for the customers, it would not be government,” Schumer said.

    Both the House and Senate have put forward health care plans that include a strong public option but there could be enough resistance to block it, which makes Conrad’s idea more alluring as a compromise.

    Republican’s like the idea of staving off the creation of government-run health care. but it will be a harder sell for Democrats who see it as another form of private insurance.

    Negotiators in the House and Senate are meeting daily to hash out legislation that can be on President Obama’s desk by October.

  41. cynkading Says:

    I am one of the ones who does not have health care and have not had any in about 7 years now. I can assure you that I do not want the goverment giving me a handout with healthcare. I do have some health issues at times but I either choose to go see someone and pay up front for my care or just deal with the problem. You know as well as I that this is just simply another way to herd the sheep in a direction where there is absolutely no choice given.

  42. rosettasister Says:

    cynkading Says:
    June 11, 2009 at 6:30 pm


    Well, cynka, I slightly disagree.

    I am my brother’s keeper.

    And it is in everyone’s best interest to have everyone covered.

    But there is no need to reinvent the wheel.

    We just have to fix what needs fixing.

    My line in the sand, as some have stated, is I don’t want government-run health care.

    Something along the Swiss model, I’d like to see Medicare and Medicaid phased out over time, too.

    More info on the Swiss model:


  43. rosettasister Says:

    This blog might be a good resource:


    I told you Harry Reid was a stupid f*ck! Please, Nevada, please put us out of our misery and don’t reelect this putz!


    Going Postal: Reid’s New Defense of Public Health Care


  44. rosettasister Says:

    *** Warning *** Extremely Graphic Violent Images

    This is one reason it’s so hard to make any headway in this part of the world.

    “Today Baitullah Mehsud is trying to destroy Islam but acting like good muslim. However he is a slave of Jews CIA and the Hindus.”

    (When you raise your children to be haters, this is what you get. You get Baitullah Mehsud and your people cannot fathom that fellow Muslims are behind this carnage. But Pakistani fighting men seem very brave and I applaud them for that. Conspiracy-mindedness has long been the blight of Muslim cultures.)

  45. rosettasister Says:

    Fighting intensifies in Pakistan’s northwest


    But fighting has spilled out of Swat in the past week, as militants stepped up attacks on security forces in retaliation for the offensive and the army has replied with artillery, gunships and assault forces in some areas.

    The army said in a statement that about 400 militants using guns and rockets attacked two forts at Siplatoi and Jandola in South Waziristan, a rugged, remote region along the Afghan border where Pakistani Taliban chief Baitullah Mehsud is based. They were repelled in battles that killed 22 militants and wounded “a large number” of others, as well as leaving three troops dead, it said.

    They were the largest skirmishes in South Waziristan since the Swat offensive began, though the area has been hit by smaller attacks.

  46. rosettasister Says:

    From Agnostic Muslim:

    On the question of the thread:

    ”What is the use of winning Swat, if Peshawar is out of control?”

    As events in FATA and Swat (in terms of Taliban expansion and attacks) have shown us, Peshawar would have been out of control whether we acted against the Taliban or not. Remember that the Charsadda suicide bombing was planned in Swat under the commanders loyal to Mullah Fazlullah, AFTER the peace deal was enacted.

    In fact, given that the Taliban would have had a greater degree of freedom and havens in Malakand division, the likelihood of Peshawar, Islamabad and other cities being out of control would be higher, as the Taliban stepped up their campaign of violence and destabilization, and tried to control more and more territory.

    I have said this before – if Pakistan had not acted when it did, we may have had to evacuate all of Peshawar as we did with Mingora – that would be ‘Peshawar out of control’.

  47. rosettasister Says:

    Thursday, June 11, 2009

    Rush Limbaugh: Obama Doesn’t Have a Birth Certificate

    For the first time, the King of Radio weighs in on Obama’s refusal to
    produce a birth certificate… kinda.

    EC discusses the significance of the sudden surge in interest about an issue we’ve been following since last year.

    We know the issue isn’t going away…


  48. rosettasister Says:

    The Obama Birth Certificate

    Under Hawaiian law, it is possible (both legally and illegally) for a person to have been born out of state, yet have a birth certificate on file in the Department of Health.


    URLs in this post:
    [1] The Narcissist, as Liar and Con-man: http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/01/narcissist-as-liar-and-con-man.html

    [2] The Mysterious Shadow: Code Name Obama.: http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/18-12-2008/106848-Code_Name_Obama-0

    [3] New Jersey attorney Mario Apuzzo: http://puzo1.blogspot.com/

    [4] IMPOSTOR PRESIDENT OBAMA: VICTORY WILL BE SHORT LIVED.: http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd420.htm

    [5] there is a one million dollar reward offered for AKA OBAMA’s Hawaiian birth certificate: http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/02/obamas-birth-certificate-million-reward.html

    [6] Laws of the Territory of Hawaii ACT 96 To Provide For The Issuance Of Certificates Of Hawaiian Birth: http://books.google.com/books?id=0PjvG3BkcBAC&pg=PA127&lpg=PA127&dq=ACT+96.+AN+ACT+To+Provide+For+The+Issuance+Of+Certificates+Of+Hawaiian+Birth&source=bl&ots=u1k4r9pMnA&sig=K_5dxGCGShV9jNlFmnz1cenke4s&hl=en&ei=PNDrSeiVKp_htgeen9zUBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct

    [7] the two types of documents: http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2008/12/what-real-hawaiian-birth-certificate.html

    [8] preserved online: http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/

    [9] video summary of the evidence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDIVEfVGLBQ

    [10] Sandra Ramsey Lines: http://www.asqde.org/SRLines/SandraRLines.htm

    [11] affidavit: http://www.therightsideoflife.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/executedsandralinesdeclaration_1.pdf

    [12] U. S. Law Blog: http://www.uslaw.com/library/Obama_Citizenship/Keyes_v_Lingle_Case_Dismissed_Forensic_Examiner_Disproves_Online_COLB.php?item=334969

    [13] these documents have also been exposed as forgeries: http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/11/exclusive_did_n.html

    [14] Why the Barack Obama Birth Certificate Issue Is Legitimate: http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/11/why_the_barack_obama_birth_cer.html

    [15] college records hidden: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=90256

    [16] “Muslim” with “Indonesian” citizenship: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=72656

    [17] Leo C. Donofrio: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/dec/05/court-to-weigh-question-about-obama-citizenship/

    [18] according to a memo by Cleta Mitchell: http://www.newsmax.com/kessler/acorn_voters/2009/03/19/193797.html

    [19] To The Point News: http://www.tothepointnews.com/

    [20] American Grand Jury: http://americangrandjury.org/

    [21] Mark S. McGrew: http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/04/mark-mcgrew-nails-grand-jury-story.html

  49. rosettasister Says:

    More from Polarik which makes us all look nuts. Get a grip man!







  50. rosettasister Says:

    Berg states Orly Taitz has gone too far; Berg sues Taitz for violating individuals basic rights – Privacy by revealing birth dates and Social Security numbers


    Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the first Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s lack of Constitutional “qualifications/eligibility” to serve as President of the United States and his cases that are still pending, Berg vs. Obama [2 cases – 1 under seal] and Hollister vs. Soetoro a/k/a Obama, et al announced today that he had filed a lawsuit against Orly Taitz for her unprofessional and unlawful tactics by disseminating birth dates and Social Security Numbers and other vicious lies to harm innocent people.

    Berg said, “Orly Taitz, Esquire must be disbarred ! Orly has been grabbing the headlines, but doing disservice to the millions who want Obama to prove he is constitutionally eligible/qualified to be President of the United States.

    Presently Orly has only one [1] case pending and in my opinion, not very strong and definitely not on point. On the other hand, I [Berg] have three [3] lawsuits pending, all in Federal Court, two [2] in the Appellate Courts [Third Circuit – argument was scheduled end of May 2009, but now the earliest it will be heard is September or October of 2009 on the issue of ‘standing’; the other in the District of Columbia Court of Appeals (Hollister case)]. The 3rd case is ‘under seal.’”

    Berg continued, “Orly has gone too far by e-mailing the Social Security number of my assistant, Lisa. By doing so, with the help of Neil Sankey, Sankey Investigating, Inc. and the Sankey Firm, Orly has violated State [California] and Federal laws and has admitted to the mass e-mailing distribution to tens of thousands of individuals. After suit was filed against Orly and other Defendants, Orly’s Answer was due May 26, 2009, however, it was not filed. I requested Default to be entered against Orly and other Defendants for their failure to Answer the Complaint. The Court entered the Default on May 27, 2009.”

    Berg stated, “On or about May 28, 2009, Orly faxed a one [1] page Motion to Set Aside the Default entered on May 27, 2009 against her and Defend our Freedoms Foundation, Inc. I, Berg, filed our Response in Opposition to Orly’s Request to Set Aside the Default on June 8th and can be found on my website at obamacrimes.com.

    Neil Sankey appeared on Plains Radio Network on May 28, 2009 with a made up story that Lisa Ostella sent him emails and asked him to investigate my assistant, Lisa and me. This was a completely fabricated story. Neil Sankey and Orly conspired and not only altered emails sent from Lisa Ostella, they created emails using Lisa Ostella’s email address, which Lisa Ostella did not have any knowledge of, never gave any permission for anyone to use her email address, never gave authorization to draft emails on her behalf, she never drafted the emails nor did she send them. In so doing, Neil Sankey and Orly altered and forged documents (emails) of Lisa Ostella. On May 31, 2009, Orly posted the altered and forged emails on her website with a statement that Lisa Ostella sent them to Neil Sankey, knowing the information to be completely false.”

    Berg continued, “We are fighting to uphold our Constitution and the laws of our Nation. Neil Sankey and Orly are not helping our cause by degrading those working so hard to learn the truth and breaking the very laws we are desperately trying to uphold.”

  51. rosettasister Says:

    Looks like “Hal” has been going after Dr Orly, too. Same IP, different email. Probably bogus, but who knows?!

    Hal (Jason),

    I told you to get help!



    Jason Long

    btw the government IS OUT TO GET YOU. We at http://www.yestodemocracy.com think it’s about time for the government to start acting and rounding you up!

    You people have found those concentration camps; Guess what , I think they have been set up for you!! I wonder if they have gas chambers built in?

  52. rosettasister Says:

    Geez, and they say we’re crazy!

    Paddle Faster, I hear banjos – Birther Update


    However, “Jason Long” does not speak for anyone at Yes To Democracy. We don’t censor messages to … “Jason Long” speaks for himself alone.

    (Thank goodness for that!)

  53. rosettasister Says:

    Shep Smith: Our viewers’ e-mails are starting to scare me


    Trolls are an Internet fact of life, alas. It’s time to stop being surprised.

  54. rosettasister Says:

    Have I told you lately how much I love my fellow Americans?! Don’t Tread On Me!

  55. rosettasister Says:

    Obama’s Stubborn Cover up Leads to Civil Rights Violations


  56. rosettasister Says:

    More like this:


  57. rosettasister Says:

    Tenacity is on now:


  58. rosettasister Says:

    Oopsy daisy! I think I got that wrong.

    Anyways, please see Tenacity’s post above for info:

    Tenacity Says:
    June 11, 2009 at 3:57 am

  59. Tenacity Says:

    If you find these 10 reasons funny, you need sensitivity training. If you find them too seriously true to be funny, then you are a right wing terrorist.

    10 Reasons to Watch David Letterman

    10) You’ve become worried that your IQ is rising above room temperature.
    9) Dumb & Dumber isn’t on TV every night.
    8) You hope he will display the masculine slut who had his bastard child.
    7) He has become your favorite televangelist for Osama Barak.
    6) Your expectations for entertainment are as low as they are for education, politicians, or liberty.
    5) Since Osama hasn’t given you a job yet, you might as well stay up late & watch something.
    4) Its your way of showing compassion for the mentally challenged.
    3) Watching the advertisements is the closest that a liberal ever gets to donating to anything.
    2) Its important to stay current on all the latest prejudices of the politically obtuse.
    1) You’re hoping that his mother will finally come clean about how she & the men in her life abused Dave as a child.

    If you laughed at any of these, you are definitely a sick mind. If #6 offended you…get a life you Obot.

  60. Tenacity Says:

    I will be hosting Let’s Talk Liberty next week. Tim is hosting tonight. I am actually listening to the Collective Consciousness call. The Jaghunter is on now. They will be talking about the Fitzpatrick complaint shortly. Also, more discussion about The Iron Web in a bit.

  61. Tenacity Says:

    If you want to listen to the Collective Consciousness call, phone in at 605-475-8500 and put in code 5092984. You can also listen and chat at http://www.talkshoe.com ID 48335#

  62. Tenacity Says:

    I will likely join in the discussion toward the end of the call.

  63. Troy Says:

    Something for us to keep an eye on.


  64. Troy Says:

    One step closer….Ron Paul let us down with his reluctance to address Obo’s ineligibility, but he is one the right side here.
    Looks like bill to audit FED will pass HOUSE
    by DefendUSx June 11, 2009 20:19

    Awesome! Still a long way to go though. Meanwhile, you can be each sponsor is being researched for any “blackmail” dirt or material to sway this matter. Auding the Fed will most likely shut it down. The whole movement from this shift to Capitalism to Marxism is the FED and who they appointed to achieve as such. Get ready for some fireworks.

    Historic news – Dr. Paul’s Audit the Fed Bill has passed the 218 co-sponsor benchmark, and now sits with 222.

    Read his congressional press release here.

    Hats off to everyone across the country who is working so hard. This is truly amazing. Let’s keep it up!

    Update: Here are the latest names:

    -Rep. David Loebsack
    -Rep. Gary Miller
    -Rep. Frank Wolf
    -Rep. Corrine Brown
    -Rep. Jackie Speier
    -Rep. Bruce Braley
    -Rep. Donna Edwards
    -Rep. Bobby Bright
    -Rep. Anh “Joseph” Cao
    -Rep. Jared Polis
    -Rep. Dennis Kucinich
    -Rep. Howard “Buck” McKeon
    -Rep. Howard Coble
    -Rep. Jean Schmidt

  65. Troy Says:

    Chastity Bono to undergo an addidictomy:
    pronounced; add-a-dick-to-me


  66. Troy Says:

    Check out this fah-king beast….The hedgehog is pissed because Oblowem isn’t radical enough for her and he isn’t burying the knife deep enough in Israel’s back to suit her.

  67. Tenacity Says:

    Kucinich was No. 218. Gotta luv an honest liberal…they are rare.

  68. Troy Says:

    Grace Slick is kind of scary looking in this video.

    Walk softly through the desert sand
    Careful where you tread
    Underfoot are the visions lost
    Sleeping, not yet dead

    Hang on – Winds starting to howl
    Hang on – The beast is on the prowl
    Hang on – Can you hear the strange cry?
    Winds of change are blowing by

    Mountains crumble and cities fall
    Don’t come to an end
    Lie scattered on the desert floor
    Waiting for the wind


    You got your life planned carefully
    But you left out one detail
    The hidden hand deals just one round
    And the winds of change prevail


    Walk softly through the desert sand
    Old dreams lead the way
    Nothing new in the sands of time
    Just changes every day

    Hang on – It’s starting again
    Hang on – There’s no shelter from the wind
    Hang on – Like a fire from the sky
    Winds of change are blowing by

  69. Troy Says:

    Yeah, Kucinich is definitely a leftwingnut, but like Paul, he is hell bent on shutting down the Fed.

  70. Troy Says:

    Don’t wanna be Obama’s elf

  71. rosettasister Says:

    Good morning, sleepyheads!

  72. ryansgrammy Says:

    Hey Rose — haven’t been home much in the past weeks as I’m running back and forth taking care of my injured mom. It’s always great to come home to my computer and catch up with Rose’s Gang and all of the happenings and music.

  73. rosettasister Says:

    ryansgrammy Says:
    June 12, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    Hey Rose — haven’t been home much in the past weeks as I’m running back and forth taking care of my injured mom.


    God Bless You, grammy!

    As the days get longer and hotter, I’m finding it harder and harder to stay inside and to stay focused.

    But we all know that when it comes to Obama and his plans for us, eternal vigilance is the name of the game.

    So I’ll keep on truckin’


  74. rosettasister Says:

    New Thread:


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