Save The Last Chance For Me


ramones road to ruin back cover

Ramones – Road to Ruin (Last Chance — Poughkeepsie, NY)

I met my husband walking through these doors.  It was called the “Last Chance” back then (1976).  His dad had been a founding member of “The Last Chance Jazz Band” prior to his untimely departure from this world.

The legendary Dutchess Theater opened in 1912 as a vaudeville theater and picture house and, after going through numerous name changes and ownerships, closed from 1945 to 1970. Plover reopened the building in 1970 as Frivolous Sal’s Last Chance Saloon. The name was later shortened to The Last Chance, then finally The Chance.


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83 Responses to “Save The Last Chance For Me”

  1. NEConservative Says:


  2. rosettasister Says:

    Good morning, NEC!

  3. rosettasister Says:

    “Doctors Can Write Their Own Prescription”

    My new column

    returns to a theme I have sounded for months: The 800,000 medical doctors in the United States could decide the fate of the ominous “government option” being pushed by the left wing of the Democratic Party if those doctors weigh in with the moderates in the Democratic Party and urge that this lurch to single-payer be rejected.

    Those moderates in the House are grouped in the Blue Dog caucus, and the contact info for all the Blue Dogs is listed here.

    Later this week I will add the contact information for the Democrats in the Senate who face tough re-election campaigns in 2010. If MDs rally and focus their efforts on these two groups, they have the ability to kill the government option. If even a couple of thousand doctors contact each member listed, the impact will be huge.

    But doctors have to self-organize and self-motivate. They will get no leadership from the AMA. They need to reach out to their local colleagues and through their hospital networks. They need to find their friends from medical school and their residencies, and from their annual meetings.

    In short, they have to act as though their professional lives depended upon their own efforts –which in fact they do. If they fail to stop the “government option” most of them will be de facto government employees in a matter of a few short years, prescribing the treatments approved by federal boards and charging the (low) fees established by federal oversight.

    The public that wants to preserve patient rights will have to act as well, but if the doctors are silent, don’t expect elected members to pay much attention.

    I continue to invite doctors to e-mail me their assessment of the effects of a government-option/single-payer plan on patient care in America via

  4. rosettasister Says:

    Sentence of the day

    From the NYTimes articles on a White House effort to control executive compensation in the financial industry:

    “In the past, banks had free rein to determine the base salary and bonuses they awarded their employees.”

    Or put it this way: “”In the past, companies could pay their workers at a level that made business sense.”

  5. rosettasister Says:

    Banks out of the woods … or not

    This is my choice hunk of the day from the brain of economic analyst Ed Yardeni:

    (1) The most bullish development is the record spread between Treasury note and bond yields and the federal funds rate. Historically this has been a big booster of net interest income for the banks. Another major positive is the narrowing of credit quality spreads in the bond markets.

    (2) The relaxation of the mark-to-market rule on April 2 should continue to provide for positive y/y comparisons for bank earnings.

    (3) The banks have raised lots of additional capital in the bond and stock markets and are meeting the requirements to shore up their balance sheets following their recently completed stress tests.

    Now here is the downside:

    (4) The bad news is that rising mortgage rates are already depressing mortgage refinancing activity, which was a major source of earnings during Q1.

    (5) The jump in the unemployment rate means that bad loans to individuals could mount during the second half of the year.

    (6) Residential and commercial mortgages are also likely to generate more bad loans over the rest of the year.

  6. rosettasister Says:

    Taking the Hill

    Short of realizing these projected savings, there are only so many ways to pay for health care — and, not surprisingly, congressmen and senators aren’t exactly lining up to embrace them.

    One way, as McCain proposed, is to rescind the tax exemption for some workers who receive health care benefits from their employers;

    Baucus is open to at least capping the exemption, but labor unions are adamantly opposed,

    and Rangel has publicly renounced it (though he and other House Democrats appear to be re-evaluating that stance).

    Another way is to slap new taxes on some of the products that cause health problems in the first place, like soft drinks, but industry lobbyists are already spending satchels of cash to head that off.

    Congress can always choose to slash Medicare benefits or the payments that doctors receive, but that idea generates about as much enthusiasm as you might find for putting George W. Bush’s face on the $5 bill.

  7. rosettasister Says:

    Republican Letter to Obama Opposes Public Health Plan

    The letter to Obama was signed by all Republican members of the Senate Finance Committee, with the exception of Senator Olympia Snowe of Maine. Snowe has said she wants to find a middle ground on the government-plan issue.

    Public Option

    The signatories argued that creation of a so-called “public option” will undermine private insurers and eventually limit provider and treatment choices for consumers.

    “Washington-run programs undermine market-based competition through their ability to impose price controls and shift costs to other purchasers,” they wrote. “Forcing free- market plans to compete with these government-run programs would create an unlevel playing field and inevitably doom true competition.”

    The Republican senators said they want to seek common ground on other matters.

    “We have a real need for reform and an opportunity on behalf of the American people to get it done,” they said. “If we are responsible in our policy approaches and strive for true bipartisanship, we can get meaningful reform done this year.”

    (Obviously, Snowe’s “middle ground” is the fallback “trigger” option. As I’ve written here repeatedly, Bush’s prescription coverage for the elderly included a “trigger” which never needed to get pulled. A lot of Repubs voted for that bill. So they’re being inconsistent and hypocritical here.)

    (The “stimulus” bill should be repealed (I really don’t know if that’s even possible). And any unspent funds should help pay for health care reform.)

  8. rosettasister Says:

    Most Democrats support creating a public plan to compete with private insurers, but even they are divided over critical details.

    The one Finance Republican who did not sign the letter was Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine.

    Snowe has been trying to find a compromise through which a government plan would be available as a last resort, if health care costs don’t come down and many people remain uninsured.

  9. NEConservative Says:

    My most favorite song of all time:

  10. NEConservative Says:

    My second favorite song of all time:

  11. NEConservative Says:

    Good afternoon Rose!!

  12. rosettasister Says:

    Thanks, NEC!

    Sometimes I’m in the mood for music I can play in the background.

    It has a hypnotic effect on me.

  13. rosettasister Says:

    Edie Falco – Propagandist

    She’s pushing “public” option which means government-run health care. Olympia Snowe wants what Edie wants – but she wants it provided by the private sector.

    But this is their game plan. The choice is “public” option NOW or the status quo. Hopefully, America won’t swallow it.

    Of course, the Repubs are busy being propagandists, too.

    This is why I don’t trust either side on this issue.

  14. NEConservative Says:


    Understanding the Kennedy health care bill
    Posted Monday, June 8th, 2009, at 7:30 am
    Over the weekend a draft of Senator Kennedy’s (D-MA) health care bill leaked. After playing with Adobe Acrobat, here is the text of the draft Kennedy bill as a text file (173 K), and as a single Acrobat file (3.4 MB). Update: I fixed the broken link to the PDF. Unlike the leaked version, both of these are searchable.

    Calling it the “Kennedy” bill is something of an overstatement. Senator Kennedy chairs the Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions committee, and his staff wrote the draft. By all reports, however, Chairman Kennedy’s health is preventing him from being heavily involved in the drafting. Senator Reid has designated Senator Chris Dodd (D-CT) to supervise the process, but as best I can tell, it’s really the Kennedy committee staff who are making most of the key decisions. For now I will call it the Kennedy-Dodd bill.

    As the committee staff emphasized to the press after the leak, this is an interim draft. I assume things will move around over the next several weeks as discussions among Senators and their staffs continue. This is therefore far from a final product, but it provides a useful insight into current thinking among some key Senate Democrats.

    Here are 15 things to know about the draft Kennedy-Dodd health bill.

    The Kennedy-Dodd bill would create an individual mandate requiring you to buy a “qualified” health insurance plan, as defined by the government. If you don’t have “qualified” health insurance for a given month, you will pay a new Federal tax. Incredibly, the amount and structure of this new tax is left to the discretion of the Secretaries of Treasury and Health and Human Services (HHS), whose only guidance is “to establish the minimum practicable amount that can accomplish the goal of enhancing participation in qualifying coverage (as so defined).” The new Medical Advisory Council (see #3D) could exempt classes of people from this new tax. To avoid this tax, you would have to report your health insurance information for each month of the prior year to the Secretary of HHS, along with “any such other information as the Secretary may prescribe.”

    The bill would also create an employer mandate. Employers would have to offer insurance to their employees. Employers would have to pay at least a certain percentage (TBD) of the premium, and at least a certain dollar amount (TBD). Any employer that did not would pay a new tax. Again, the amount and structure of the tax is left to the discretion of the Secretaries of Treasury and HHS. Small employers (TBD) would be exempt.

    In the Kennedy-Dodd bill, the government would define a qualified plan:

    All health insurance would be required to have guaranteed issue and renewal, modified community rating, no exclusions for pre-existing conditions, no lifetime or annual limits on benefits, and family policies would have to cover “children” up to age 26.

    A qualified plan would have to meet one of three levels of standardized cost-sharing defined by the government, “gold, silver, and bronze.” Details TBD.

    Plans would be required to cover a list of preventive services approved by the Federal government.

    A qualified plan would have to cover “essential health benefits,” as defined by a new Medical Advisory Council (MAC), appointed by the Secretary of Health and Human Services. The MAC would determine what items and services are “essential benefits.” The MAC would have to include items and services in at least the following categories: ambulatory patient services, emergency services, hospitalization, maternity and new born care, medical and surgical, mental health, prescription drugs, rehab and lab services, preventive/wellness services, pediatric services, and anything else the MAC thought appropriate.

    The MAC would also define what “affordable and available coverage” is for different income levels, affecting who has to pay the tax if they don’t buy health insurance. The MAC’s rules would go into effect unless Congress passed a joint resolution (under a fast-track process) to turn them off.

    Health insurance plans could not charge higher premiums for risky behaviors: “Such rate shall not vary by health status-related factors, … or any other factor not described in paragraph (1).” Smokers, drinkers, drug users, and those in terrible physical shape would all have their premiums subsidized by the healthy.

    Guaranteed issue and renewal combined with modified community rating would dramatically increase premiums for the overwhelming majority of those Americans who now have private health insurance. New Jersey is the best example of health insurance mandates gone wild. In the name of protecting their citizens, premiums are extremely high to cover the cross-subsidization of those who are uninsurable.

    The bill would expand Medicaid to cover everyone up to 150% of poverty, with the Federal government paying all incremental costs (no State share). This means adding childless adults with income below 150% of the poverty line.

    People from 150% of poverty up to 500% (!!) would get their health insurance subsidized (on a sliding scale). If this were in effect in 2009, a family of four with income of $110,000 would get a small subsidy. The bill does not indicate the source of funds to finance these subsidies.

    People in high cost areas (e.g., New York City, Boston, South Florida, Chicago, Los Angeles) would get much bigger subsidies than those in low cost areas (e.g., much of the rest of the country, especially in rural areas). The subsidies are calculated as a percentage of the “reference premium,” which is determined based on the cost of plans sold in that particular geographic area

    There would be a “public plan option” of health insurance offered by the federal government. In this new government health plan, the federal government would pay health care providers Medicare rates + 10%. The +10% is clearly intended to attract short-term legislative support from medical providers. I hope they are not so naive that they think that differential would last.

    Group health plans with 250 or fewer members would be prohibited from self-insuring. ERISA would only be for big businesses.

    States would have to set up “gateways” (health insurance exchanges) to market only qualified health insurance plans. If they don’t, the Feds will set up a gateway for them.

    Health insurance plans in existence before the law would not have to meet the new insurance standards. This creates a weird bifurcated system and means you would (probably) be subject to a different set of rules when you change jobs.

    The bill does not specify what spending will be cut or what taxes will be raised to pay for the increased spending. That is presumably for the Finance Committee to determine, since it’s their jurisdiction.

    The bill defines an “eligible individual” as “a citizen or national of the United States or an alien lawfully admitted to the United States for permanent residence or an alien lawfully present in the United States.”

    The bill would create a new pot of money for state gateways to pay “navigators” to educate people about the new bill, distribute information about health plans, and help people enroll. Navigators receiving federal funds “may include … unions, …”

    This would have severe effects on the more than 100 million Americans who have private health insurance today:

    The government would mandate not only that you must buy health insurance, but what health insurance counts as “qualifying.”

    Health insurance premiums would rise as a result of the law, meaning lower wages.

    A government-appointed board would determine what items and services are “essential benefits” that your qualifying plan must cover.

    You would find a tremendous new disincentive to switch jobs, because your new health insurance may be subject to the new rules and would therefore be significantly more expensive.

    Those who keep themselves healthy would be subsidizing premiums for those with risky or unhealthy behaviors.

    Far more than half of all Americans would be eligible for subsidies, but we have not yet been told who would pay the bill.

    The Secretaries of Treasury and HHS would have unlimited discretion to impose new taxes on individuals and employers who do not comply with the new mandates.

    The Secretary of HHS could mandate that you provide him or her with “any such other information as [he/she] may prescribe.”
    I strongly oppose this bill.

  15. rosettasister Says:

    Thanks for that link, NEC.

    That’s a new one on me.

    “That Old Blowhard” Kennedy!

  16. rosettasister Says:

    Mehsud behind Benzair’s killing, says Musharraf

    * Former president says Pakistan is secure as long as armed forces are intact

    There is no doubt that Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan chief Baitullah Mehsud is responsible for the assassination of former premier Benazir Bhutto, former president Pervez Musharraf has said.

    He told a private TV channel it was untrue that he had offered Benazir the premiership for her cooperation.

    He said Nawab Akbar Bugti was killed for challenging the writ of government, and claimed a foreign hand was involved in subversive activities in Pakistan.

    “They are sending arms from abroad in a bid to destabilise the country,” he added.

    Secure nation:

    Separately, the former president told German weekly Spiegel that nothing could happen to Pakistan as long as its armed forces were intact and strong.

    He said he felt Pakistan could only be destabilised if the Inter-Services Intelligence and the army were weakened.

    Musharraf said he was not sure US President Barack Obama understood the reality in Pakistan.

    He said the Americans were hated in Pakistan today due to the drone attacks, adding the US should find a way to allow the Pakistan Army to conduct such attacks itself.

    He said he would be willing to serve as a future ambassador for peace between Pakistan and India if the two governments trusted him to do so.

  17. rosettasister Says:

    Unravelling Taliban —Shahzad Chaudhry

    The Pakistani Taliban are nothing but a group for hire to do others’ dirty work on recompense — the usual mutterings of extra-regional support may not be entirely out of place.

    They may have some ideological and socio-cultural sympathy with the cause of their Afghan brethren, but they are clearly without an objective in their fight with the Pakistani state.

    Now at different levels of their organisation, different motivational variations may be at play, including religion, and that is where the relevance of the ideological war lies, but they are essentially about power and money, with the former too used to the ultimate end of the latter.

    Is this too difficult a war to fight then?

    One thing is easily surmised:

    with the very vast majority of the 170 million Pakistanis aligned against any effort to impose a particular brand of sharia law, any illusion to occupy government as in Afghanistan in 1996 is out of question.

    The expanse of the land, the size of the population, the poles-apart religious leanings, and a very strong military all make it impossible for Pakistan to fall under the Taliban ever;

    except in one case only:

    when the state, citizenry, and its institutions cower under fear and terror.

    One hopes that will never happen.

    The writer is a security and defence analyst. He can be contacted at

    (Man, I would not want to be living in Pakistan right now!)

  18. Troy Says:

    The Legend of 1900 (pretty good movie, if you haven’t seen it)

    video clip: piano duel

  19. Troy Says:

    6 year old tike

  20. cynkading Says:

    Rose, could you put a thread up about Paul Rodgers and the bands he has performed with such as Free, Bad Company, The Firm. I don’t know how to post a music video link. I love just about anything that Paul Rodgers has ever done. I read where he is going to sing vocals with Queen. My all time favorite song that he sang was All Right Now.

  21. sisterrosetta Says:

    Sure enough

    But stuck in desert right now

    Hoping won’t get abducted by aliens again


  22. Troy Says:


  23. Troy Says:

    Both are good videos…Take your pick

  24. cynkading Says:

    Thank you Troy and Rose:)

  25. Troy Says:

    Silver, Blue and Gold

  26. Troy Says:

  27. sdee Says:

    A story today in MIT Technology Review describes significant advances toward what could be a major game-changer in the world – methane hydrate. Basically it is natural gas trapped under high pressure and low temperature. Take away either, and the gas escapes:

    What could make it a game changer is the sheer amount of it and, that it is almost everywhere. Check out the map:,1518,grossbild-1046027-523178,00.html

    Nearly any country with capital could start producing natural gas. Could the feasibility of extracting this stuff from pretty much anywhere in the world be the reason for the cap-n-trade global warming tax urgency?

    It also seems that the same geologic structures could be used to sequester CO2 after the methane is removed – that’s gottta have Al Gore’s underwear in knots. For more on that and how China and India become big winners with methane hydrate under climate treaties:,1518,523178,00.html

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  29. Troy Says:

    Head East

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  31. Troy Says:

    The Wrenching Transformation of America
    by Tom DeWeese

    (Editors note) this speech was delivered in Kalispell, Montana and Spokane, Washington to County Republican Lincoln Day dinners in late March. This editor attended the Spokane presentation. The speech caused a firestorm in Spokane, resulting in a battle with the local city council over it’s partnership with ICLEI and radical environmental policy. One elected official said DeWeese had exposed too much – as he walked out on the presentation. The battle goes on today.]

    By Tom DeWeese
    April 22, 2009

    Too hot to handle

    Ladies and gentlemen, I’ve come a long way to get here and I have such a short time to be with you. So, let’s just get everything out on the table right now, shall we?

    I believe the American people, and their every action, are being ruled, regulated, restricted, licensed, registered, directed, checked, inspected, measured, numbered, counted, rated, stamped, censured, authorized, admonished, refused, prevented, drilled, indoctrinated, monopolized, extorted, robbed, hoaxed, fined, harassed, disarmed, dishonored, fleeced, exploited, assessed, and taxed to the point of suffocation and desperation.

    America is drowning in a sea of rules and regulations, particularly under the guise of “saving the environment.”

    We all know something is very wrong and we are trying to fix it.

    Many in America attempt to fight against one issue or another as they try to understand what is happening to their country. But most fail to see the whole picture and are being crushed under a well organized “divide and conquer” tactic that keeps them reeling from crisis to crisis.

    Tonight, I’m going to try to give you at least a peek at the all-encompassing, gut wrenching national transformation that we face — and, hopefully, help to lift the veil of confusion.

    To put things in perspective, here are some questions every American should ask their elected officials – especially those supporting “climate change” legislation.

    If it is proven that climate change is not man-made, but natural, will you be relieved and excited to know that man is off the hook?

    We’ve been terrorized into accepting that human society was on the brink of extinction because of man-made global warming. We’ve been warned that, unless we take drastic action to reverse it – then islands will disappear, whole cities will be destroyed and polar bears will drown.

    So, if it’s not true, will you now help to remove all of the draconian regulations passed during the global warming hysteria? Will you help to restore our Republic with common sense and sound economics?

    Their answers to these questions should be very illuminating as to the true agenda they seek to impose.

    If they are supporting climate change legislation because of a genuine concern for the environment, then they should now be greatly relieved to know that true science is showing more and more evidence that there is no man-made global warming, and in fact, a natural cooling period has begun.

    I have just returned from one of the most important Climate Change conferences ever held. Sponsored by the Heartland Institute, more than 700 scientists from all over the world came together to testify that man-made Global Warming does not exist.

    Harvard scholar and climate scientist Willie Soon said it best in a recent article he titled, “It’s the Sun, stupid.”

    Dr. Mark Campbell, professor of chemistry at the U.S. Navel Academy in Annapolis recently wrote, “The sky is not burning, and to claim that it is amounts to journalistic malpractice.”

    Said U.S. Government atmospheric scientist Stanley B, Goldenberg, “It is a blatant lie put forth in the media that makes it seem there is only a fringe of scientists who don’t buy into anthropogenic global warming.”

    In the past year, more than 650 scientists from around the world have expressed their doubts. That’s 12 times the number of UN IPCC global warming alarmists.

    Top that with the fact that more than 31,000 American scientists have signed a petition saying there is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing disruption of the Earth’s climate.

    Of course most of the hysteria has been fueled by Al Gore’s Oscar-winning, Nobel prize-winning film “An Inconvenient Truth,” which almost every American school student has been forced to watch endless times in their classroom.

    Well, guess what, the government of Great Britain just ruled that the film cannot be shown in English classrooms unless it carries a disclaimer that says the film is full of mistakes and propaganda.

    An overwhelming majority of scientist are now telling us that investigative research shows any warming actually stopped in 1999. And, in fact, they say the brief warming period we experienced in the past decade was completely natural, caused in part by storms on the sun, not CO2 emissions from SUVs.

    The Sun storms have ended and now a cooling period has begun.

    That’s it. Done. Crisis over. Man is not to blame. Hurray! The nation should be rejoicing.

    No need for expensive green cars, mercury-filled light bulbs, special home building materials, expensive alternative energy, no bird-killing windmills, no special energy taxes, no extra government oversight committees, no more global climate change conferences – and no need for a Climate Czar. Carol Browner can go back into mothballs.

    We can finally clean out the ten feet of fuel on the bottom of the forests and prevent the massive forest fires. We can reestablish the timber industry and all the jobs that were killed.

    We can drill American oil and end our dependency on foreigners who hate us. In fact, that stable source of energy will help restore the Detroit auto industry and all of those jobs. And it will help us to stop funding terrorists. What’s not to like about drilling American oil?

    We didn’t need a stimulus package after all – the economy will rebound on its own. We are free. The environment is not in crisis. Rejoice! Rejoice!

    That silence you hear is the news media, which refuses to report what any skeptic has to say.

    That silence you hear is the lack of effort on Capitol Hill to start to pull back from the climate change hysteria.

    That silence you hear is from the White House where President of Change, Barack Obama now has an EPA director, a Council on Environmental Quality (CEQ) director and a full blown Climate Change Czar, all working to impose huge cut backs in energy use, with more taxes, and more rules and regulations that will bring an already damaged economy to its knees – all in the name of man-made Global Warming – which doesn’t exist.

    …And that silence you hear is from global corporations which have bought into Al Gore’s lie and invested heavily in the promised green economy. In fact, their dollars are the only thing green about any of it. Their commercials are promoting the lies and changing our way of life. “Going Green” is the mantra of the day. None of them are about to change any of these policies, simply to accommodate a few inconvenient scientific facts.

    In spite of all the evidence to the contrary, in spite of literally thousands of real scientists joining the ranks of the skeptics, Gore just told Congress that the Global Warming crisis is even worse than predicted. Obama, our newly crowned king said, “The science is settled.”

    Why do they continue to promote a lie? Because global warming never was about protecting the environment. It’s nothing more than the excuse to enforce global governance on the planet by creating a new global economy based on the environment rather than on goods and services.

    In fact, the most important debate in the history of the United States is about to begin – it’s the battle over a completely new economic system based on Climate Change called Cap and Trade.

    It should be called Tax and Trade as it will force up the price of every item created or run by energy from gasoline to toothpaste to natural gas to hotel rooms, as we sit in our cold, dark homes.

    Cap and Trade will throw out the old system of a free market based on goods and services and operate on the idea that CO2 is a pollutant. Instead of money, wealth will be determined by how many government-issued emission permits you own to allow you to operate your business.

    In short, it’s all about wealth redistribution. Your wealth into a green rat hole.

    During the Cold War, communists tried to get us to surrender our liberties and way of life for the wisdom of Karl Marx. Americans didn’t buy it.

    But now, they have taken the same clap trap and wrapped it all in a nice green blanket, scaring us with horror stories about the human destruction of the environment – and so we are now throwing our liberties on the bon fire like a good old fashioned book burning — all in the name of protecting the planet.

    It sounds so friendly. So meaningful. So urgent. But, the devastation to our Liberty and way of life is the same as if Lenin ordered it.

    You know, we have a new language invading our government at all levels. Old words with new meanings fill government policy papers. The typical city council meeting discusses “community development,” “historic preservation,” and “partnerships” between the city and global corporations.

    Civic leaders organize community meetings run by “facilitators,” as they outline a “vision” for the town, enforced by “consensus.” No need for debate when you have consensus!

    People of great importance testify before congressional committees of the dire need for “social justice.”

    Free trade, social justice, consensus, global truth, partnerships, preservation, stakeholders, land use, environmental protection, development, diversity, visioning, open space, heritage, comprehensive planning, critical thinking, and community service are all part of our new language.

    What are they really talking about? What mental pictures come to mind when those words are used? George Orwell realized that those who control language and manipulate key phrases can control policy.

  32. Troy Says:

    Hey!!!…Where is everybody at?….What happened to “never alone at Rose’s place”?…..I’m so lonesome I could cry…sniffle, sniff, sniff, sniffle

  33. Tenacity Says:

    Say Lonesome,
    I’ve been at a Continental Congress meeting with Bob Schulz in Colorado Springs. November 9th is the big date, if our Republic is still salvageable by then. Listening to Bob tell his story of petition red tape and all branches stomping on our Constitution is enough to make us all turn our backs on the tyrants in D.C. There is literal not more than a handful in D.C. that have even come close to living up to their oath of office. It’s time to impeach and impeach some more. Just like it says in the 2nd paragraph of the Declaration of Independence: Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable , than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

    Man, Tom DeWeese is singing out of my song book!!!!!!

  34. patriotamy Says:

    Tenacity Says:

    June 9, 2009 at 6:50 am Man, Tom DeWeese is singing out of my song book!!!!!!
    Mine, too. Makes more sense than our ‘illustrious’ politicians.

  35. Troy Says:

    Well now, Obama wants to follow the example of Australia and some EU countries and start taxing cow farts…..He needs to step down since he is one giant walking, talking, and stuttering fart….Untill they can genetically engineer a fartsless breed of bovine, the price of beef will go through the roof…..This would actually be hilarious if they weren’t dead serious about it…..I’ve got the answer….You ever seen one of those milking machines?…..How about cow fart sucking machines that hook up to a network of pipelines that all lead to a huge underground storage facility in beneath Washington DC…..That way when “we the people” have finally had ENOUGH we can just ignite that sucker and launch the federal government into outer space…..I like it. 😀

  36. rosettasister Says:

    This is a resource I used in the classroom for map nuts like me!

    Query Form For The United States And Its Territories,P1_SHOW_FIPS55:Y%2C

    Feature Name “white peak”
    State “Arizona”
    Topo Map Name “Baldy Mountain” (I already knew the name of the quadrangle I live on.),P3_TITLE:13643%2CWhite%20Peak

    “GNIS in Google Map”

    Choose “Hybrid” and then zoom in.

    I live just to the south of the canal near “White Peak.” Actually when this satellite image was taken my subdivision wasn’t on this map yet. It’s easy enough to hike to the other side, but I’ve been trying to find a way to get my Tahoe back there.

    One of the places I’m trying to get to is “Saddleback Mountain” which is part of the “Hieroglyph Mountains.”

    Anyways, that’s what I’ve been up to.

    Thanks to all for your contributions here, especially when I’m not around.

  37. rosettasister Says:

    Roubini: 9 reasons why the recover will be a bust

    Sixth, rising government debt ratios will eventually lead to increases in real interest rates that may crowd out private spending and even lead to sovereign refinancing risk.

    (I don’t know what that means, but it sure don’t sound good!)

  38. rosettasister Says:

    Has Obamanomics already failed?

    But the gamble they took was to let the Fed pretty much handle the near term (and avoid a depression) while they would focus on bolstering the economy for the longer term and pushing through their policy agenda.

    (It’s this last part that scares me!)

  39. rosettasister Says:

    More stress tests for the banks?

    Just talked to banking guru Bert Ely about this. He had a number of objections including

    a) allowing the repayment of$68 billion TARP money probably means the government is already factoring in worsening economic conditions ,

    b) it raises the possibility of reigniting investors anxiety, and

    c) it continues the politicization of the bank via government control.

    To what end?

    To keep the banks under the thumb of Uncle Sam and influence lending.

    If you control credit allocation, you control the economy.

  40. rosettasister Says:

    More unemployment gloom

    From IHS Global:

    The economy remains on track to bottom out soon—at least in output terms.

    We expect the rate of contraction in GDP to slow in the current quarter (to minus 2.8%), before GDP edges higher in the second half of the year.

    But a rapid recovery is not in prospect, after so extreme a financial shock.

    Economists may be able to declare the recession technically “over” some time in the third quarter, but it won’t feel that way for the unemployed, with the unemployment rate peaking at 10.3% in the first half of 2010.

  41. rosettasister Says:

    Obamanomics and voter patience

    Obama has been in charge for almost five months and got every single bit of economic policy he wanted from Congress.

    If the economy remains mired and debt keeps skyrocketing, people will start to ask what they got for all of their great-grandchildren’s money.

    Even a Party of No will look pretty good in comparison under those conditions, and perhaps especially so.

    (And wouldn’t Obama love some of that “stimulus” and “earmark” money back to help pay for health care reform?!)

  42. rosettasister Says:

    How to pay for healthcare?

    The following 10 year revenue increases:

    1. Cap the employer health exclusion at the FEHBP, index to CMS $418.5 b.

    2. Cap, but only for singles (joint) over $100,000 ($200,000) $161.9 b.

    3. Limit exclusion to 50% of premium amount $1,173.1 b.

    4. Repeal medical itemized deduction over 7.5% of AGI $180.7 b.

    5. Repeal Flexible Savings and Health Reimbursement Accounts $68.6 b.

    6. 3¢ per 12 oz. sugar-sweetened beverage $51.6 b.

    • Raise alcohol excise tax to $16 per proof gallon $61.5 b.

    (Easier said than done.)

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  51. rosettasister Says:

    Thanks, NEC!

    I especially loved the Monty Python bit.

    Blimey, this redistribution of wealth is trickier than I thought!

  52. rosettasister Says:

    It would seem my son Pat has a new website:

    He has one song there:


  53. NEConservative Says:

    You’re welcome Rose, I just really needed these today!!

  54. NEConservative Says:

    What I really was looking for was Rush Limbaugh’s Paul Shanklin’s OBAMACAN MAN (the candyman can) Song. Guess I’ll have to wait and get it on the next cd…

    I did find a bob&tom utube obamaman can:

  55. rosettasister Says:

    LOL, NEC!

    That guy is funny and he has a great voice!

  56. rosettasister Says:

    House Dems favor insurance requirement

    The one Finance Republican who did not sign the letter was Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine.

    Snowe has been trying to find a compromise through which a government plan would be available as a last resort, if health insurance remains unaffordable for many families even after Congress overhauls the system.

    “If individuals are not offered affordable choices, the use of a fallback public plan as a last resort plays a critical role,” said Snowe.

    The idea of a public plan is also controversial among Democrats.

    In the House, the 50 or so conservatives who make up the Blue Dog coalition argue that the government plan must look and work a lot like private insurance.

    It would be run by an outside contractor.

    And it couldn’t compel hospitals and doctors to sign up, but would have to negotiate payment rates with providers.

    To stay solvent, the plan would have to rely on premiums, not taxpayer dollars.

    The House conservatives share many ideas with Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., who has been looking for compromises in the Senate.

    (Actually, I think the Blue Dogs in the House are more in line with Snowe.)

    On the left, the 80 or so members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, contend that the public plan should be modeled on the Medicare program.

    It would be operated directly by the government and would use the existing framework of Medicare to keep costs low.

    (I fear if centrist Dems and Repubs do not embrace Snowe’s fallback “trigger” option, what we’ll end up with is something closer to Schumer’s “public” option.)

    (Remember, Schumer has stated that Snowe’s trigger would never get pulled. And he’s exactly right.)

  57. rosettasister Says:

    Republican Leaders Heat Up Opposition to Public Health Plan


    Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), who signed the letter, said, “Democrats know that if they go to a totally partisan approach like the president has suggested they’re going to eat that the rest of their lives.” He added, “I’ll be glad to help them, but not with a public plan.”

    Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-Maine), the only Senate Finance Committee Republican to not sign the letter, supports the use of a public plan in the case that private insurers are unable to make insurance available to significantly more people (AP/Philadelphia Inquirer, 6/9).

    Richard Kirsch, national campaign manager for Health Care for America Now, said, “The moderates will be very important,” although the potential for using the budget reconciliation process to pass a reform bill with only 51 votes gives the Democrats additional room to maneuver (Fritze, USA Today, 6/8).

    In the House

    Rep. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), who is chair of the GOP Health Care Solutions Group, said that nearly all Republicans in the House and several Democrats feel that with a public option, “before too long the government would be the only competitor left standing.”

    Blunt said the HCSG currently is drafting a health reform plan that would provide coverage for everyone who wanted it and be funded by eliminating waste and fraud in the health care system. He also said the cost of the plan would be minimized by the competition resulting from people having a choice of health plans (CQ HealthBeat, 6/9).

    Blue Dogs

    And the Blue Dog Democrats – a fiscally conservative subset of the party – think a trigger mechanism for a public plan is the only way they can stomach such a mandate, according to Reuters:

    “They want a public plan to be ‘triggered’ only in the absence of adequate competition and cost containment by the private sector.

    ‘The truth of the matter is that no one knows what the public option will or will not be able to achieve,’ Representative Mike Ross, who heads the Blue Dog healthcare task force, said in a statement.

    ‘Frankly, it’s an experiment'” (Smith, 6/3).

  58. NEConservative Says:

    Healthcare: What Americans have to look forward to

    Arthur Weinreb Bio

    By Arthur Weinreb Tuesday, June 9, 2009
    Part of President Obama’s healthcare plan includes the making of electronic health records. The major purpose of what the trendy call “e-records” is to provide instant access of everyone’s medical history to doctors, hospitals, pharmacists and any 14-year-old hacker who might be curious.

    In September 2008, after playing around with electronic health records for awhile, the province of Ontario created a new agency, not surprisingly called eHealth Ontario. This group replaced a previous organization, Smart Systems for Health Agency,that spent $647 million without showing any noticeable results. The primary goal of eHealth Ontario is to provide electronic medical records for all Ontarians by 2015. Well, here is a taste of how the new organization is doing so far.

    A Freedom of Information request put in by the opposition PC Party disclosed that the new agency spent $5 million on untendered contracts. The government and its agencies are allowed to sign contracts without competing bids if the matter is “urgent”. Naturally everything in healthcare is urgent and that was eHealth Ontario’s excuse for entering into these agreements. After all, they will not reach their 2015 deadline unless everything is done on an urgent basis. But there’s more.

    About $2 million of the $5 million contracts that were awarded without receiving competitive bids went to close associates of Board Chair, Dr. Alan Hudson and CEO Sarah Kramer. The group of consultants that were retained by the agency was referred to by Progressive Conservative leader Bob Runciman as an “incestuous little group”. For example a four month, $268,000 contract was given to the wife of a close associate of Dr. Hudson. And Accenture Inc., a company that Kramer gave as a reference when seeking her job was awarded three untendered contracts worth $1.3 million. Contracts were clearly awarded on the basis of who you know; not whether the expenditure of funds was in the best interests of the taxpayers of Ontario. But there’s more.

    Supposedly, Miyo Yahmashita, the wife of the close associate billed $300 an hour for a total of eight hours to consult herself. It seems she did a fine job though; not only did she initially consult with herself but she even asked herself follow up questions. That type of questioning herself seems to be worth every penny of the $2400 that the taxpayers were billed for. But there’s more.

    As the Toronto Star so eloquently put it, some of the consultants nickel-and-dimed the taxpayers. One consultant who was paid $2700 a day charged the taxpayers such things as $1.39 for a muffin and $5.69 for a box of teabags. It seems there was no item too small to expense even when a generous daily fee was being paid. But there’s more.

    CEO Sarah Kramer was earning a salary of $380,000 a year. While only being on the job a short while (the agency has only been in existence for nine months) she was awarded a bonus of $140,000. If she accomplished anything other than handing out attractive, untendered contracts to her friends and associates who, while the gravy train lasted, never had to pay for their tea and muffins, no one is quite sure of what it is. But there’s more.

    Beleaguered Ontario Health Minister, David Caplan last week ordered a third party review of eHealth Ontario’s expenditures, centering on the amounts paid for consultants. The province hired the firm of PricewaterhouseCoopers to conduct an examination of the way eHealth Ontario conducted its affairs. A third party review; in other words the province of Ontario hired a consultant to determine whether too much money was being spent on consultants. If this entire matter didn’t involve wasting other peoples’ money during a deep recession where Ontario is leading the country in job losses it would be quite funny. But there’s more.

    Over the weekend, in an attempt to save his own political skin Caplan got rid of Kramer. But if anyone is worried about where Sarah’s next muffin is going to come from, they needn’t be concerned. After having worked less than a year, she is receiving severance pay in the amount of $317,000.

    The Liberal Party and their supporters don’t seem to see anything particularly wrong with what transpired at eHealth Ontario. According to Caplan, he didn’t get rid of Kramer because of the way she ran the agency. She had to go because the “scandal” was causing a “distraction” to eHealth Ontario’s work. And in a column in the Toronto Star, columnist Jim Coyle had the nerve to suggest that Hudson’s and Kramer’s big mistake was timing. They hired the friends and wasted money in a recession; the inference being that if the economy was strong, what they did would be acceptable.

    This truly is an example of what Americans have to look forward to when Obama gets his healthcare program up and running. It is a perfect example of why these types of matters are best left to the private sector that must keep their eye on the bottom line.

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  59. NEConservative Says:

    Hot dang, Voight was on fire last night:

  60. Tenacity Says:

    I’m your Candy-man…come on down. I love it!

  61. rosettasister Says:

    You beat me to it, NEC!

    I remember when I was watching Jon Voight in that Terminator movie with some former students.

    I mentioned how he was Angelina Jolie’s father.

    They’re like, “No way!”

    And I’m like, “Way!”

    “You should have seen him when he was younger!”

    “Ouch!” (Actually, I only said “ouch” in my head.)

  62. jrinNC Says:

    Economic Analogy:

    It is August, 2011 in a little town in Northern California . It is raining, and the bleak, soggy town looks totally deserted. It is tough times…everybody is in debt……everybody lives on credit.

    One day, a rich tourist comes to town. He enters the only hotel, lays a $100.00 bill on the reception counter, and goes to inspect the rooms upstairs in order to pick one. The hotel proprietor takes the $100.00 bill and runs to pay his debt to the butcher. The butcher takes the $100.00 bill, and runs to pay his debt to the pig farmer. The pig farmer takes the $100.00 bill, and runs to pay his debt to the feed store proprietor. The proprietor of the feed store takes the $100.00 bill and runs to pay his debt to the town’s prostitute. (Who, in these hard times, gave her “services” on credit). The prostitute takes the $100.00 bill and runs to the hotel and pays off her debt to the proprietor for the rooms she rented when she brought her clients there. The hotel proprietor then lays the $100.00 bill back on the counter so that the rich tourist will not suspect anything. The rich tourist comes down after inspecting the rooms, takes his $100.00 bill, and saying that he did not like any of the rooms, he leaves town. The whole town believes it is now without any debt, and looks to the future with great optimism! However, no one has actually earned anything.

    And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how the United States Government under ‘Obam-A-Lama-Ding-Dong’ is doing business today. It is truly frightening…..

    By the way – LOVE THE MUSIC everyone. Brings back a lot of memories.

  63. cynkading Says:

    I saw yesterday on Fox where they were interviewing the owners of a car dealership that had been around for several generations and had gotten the ax. My heart goes out to all of those who have worked hard and played by all of the rules and are now having their hard work and their businesses shut down without any explanarions. I also read that some of the dealerships were being closed purposefully because they contributed to the republican party and now are being targeted for the ax.

  64. cynkading Says:

    Sorry about the spelling:)

  65. Troy Says:

    Just in case any of you thought that I was kidding around with you yesterday.

    For beef cattle rachers and dairy cattle ranchers, well you do the math.
    Beef and dairy = FOOD = even more outrageous grocery prices
    Add this to the carbon taxes, which will be passed on down the line to consumers, and the soon to be $3.50 or more per gallon of gasoline and on top of job loss and a floundering economy and you will have mass starvation.

    Yesterday, I proposed my solution to the “cow fart” problem….Now allow me to propose a second alternative:
    Every single person that voted for Obutthole should firmly plant their lips on a cow’s anus and suck as hard as they can = cow farts removed and happier cows.

    Oh now Troy you’re just being ridiculous!!!….Really???
    Yeah, just about as ridiculous as cow farts causing global warming.

    New name for global warming activists (con artists): Cow Ass Suckers

  66. Troy Says:

    ALERT!!! ALERT!!! ALERT!!!

    A recent study and consensus among top scientists has now discovered that ocean levels are being increased by “human urination”…..Adding to this problem are the gradual changes to the salinity of oceans worldwide…Every time a person pees in the water at the beach or in a river the water level rises a little more….At the current rates that have been determined, land mass will be diminishing at an alarming rate and due to over urination, the world’s coral reefs continue to rapidly die off and the fish are beginning to taste like piss…..This is a dire situation that must be reversed or the world as we know it is doomed!!!…..A new federal tax must be mandated to deal with this man made disaster….The new 2009 Federal Urination Tax proceeds will go towards syphoning off the excess ocean levels, due to over pissing, and coverting it into steam which will power new Green Turbines for power generation….The only draw back so far is the steam getting absorbed into the atmosphere and falling back down on us in the form of “piss rain”…..That’s right the federal government will be pissing all over us and that is why the new 2009 Federal Umbrella Tax will take effect in the third quarter of this year.

    Hey, it sounds feasible to me, just as feasible as cow fart and man made global warming….Please do not allow yourselves to be conned!!!!

  67. patriotamy Says:

    Troy Says:

    June 10, 2009 at 4:33 pm
    ROFLMAO !!!!! 😀

  68. patriotamy Says:

    We live across from a small dairy, and so far in all these years there is no ill effects from the ‘farts.’ In fact, my husband’s farts are smellier, (and I think more deadly) than the cows….

  69. NEConservative Says:

    RUSH JUST SAID THIS: “God does not have a birth certificate, and neither does Barack Obama”

  70. patriotamy Says:

    If this ‘fart’ tax goes into effect, our neighbor will have to fold up operations. They are barely making it now with the prices in the tank for milk.

  71. NEConservative Says:

    Rush: ‘but what’s the difference between God and Obama. The difference is that God does not think He’s Obama’.

  72. Troy Says:

    NEConservative Says:

    June 10, 2009 at 4:40 pm
    RUSH JUST SAID THIS: “God does not have a birth certificate, and neither does Barack Obama”
    Holy cow fart!!!….I can’t believe that Rush finally mentioned it…WOW!!!

  73. Troy Says:

    NEConservative Says:
    June 10, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    Rush: ‘but what’s the difference between God and Obama. The difference is that God does not think He’s Obama’.
    This is what we’re up against

  74. sliderblaze Says:

    lol, Rush is in usual form today, love the BC joke, he keeps repeating it too… jab jab

  75. sliderblaze Says:

    i guess his producer said something about it and Rush responded

    “not that anyone has seen” referring to the BC….

  76. NEConservative Says:

    ya, from Rush, I’ll take that for starters.

  77. rosettasister Says:

    The Rush Limbaugh LIVE Radio Show Thread – Wednesday, June 10, 2009

    To: MHGinTN

    Oh boy, Rush is egging the fifth column enemedia with this repetition on the missing BC!

    We who have been paying attention better get ready, the FR troll team will be on fire challenging the assertions from we Birthers now.

    The affirmative action figure’s goon squad will be very busy.

    It will be interesting to see what layers of lies Axelrod comes up with this time!

    185 posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:27:27 AM by MHGinTN

  78. NEConservative Says:

    Rush just said that the left (Obots) are calling like crazy cuz he just joked about duh one.

  79. cynkading Says:

    Thought this would be an excellant exchange. How About a Trade? Al Gore For The Two American Hostages The big blow hard would not last 30 minutes before he would be wimpering like a baby.

  80. rosettasister Says:

    A lengthy article probably worth a long look.

    Sen. Tom Coburn

    Posted: June 9, 2009 11:05 AM

    A Better Way to Reform Health Care


    I recently posted an article on the Huffington Post

    along with my friend, Regina Herzlinger of Harvard, describing how the Obama health care plan will decimate our economy. Many readers asked if I had a plan or if I wished to only criticize the president’s proposal. In fact, I have introduced comprehensive health care legislation, the “Patients’ Choice Act”

    along with Senator Richard Burr (R-NC) and Representatives Paul Ryan (R-WI) and Devin Nunes (R-CA).

    Some estimates say the “public option” will cost $1.2 trillion but no one knows for sure. It’s impossible to predict the havoc that would ensue if, for instance, the Lewin Group’s study is correct and 120 million Americans lose their private insurance because private companies are driving out of business by the government plan. When faced with out-of-control costs, European countries with single-payer plans responded the only way they could – they rationed and denied life-saving care.

    The president is using conservative economic arguments to sell his plan – it’s about choice and competition, etc. – but he is putting forward a proposal that would have the opposite effect. Also, the American people should be concerned about the need for a government plan to keep the private plans “honest.” In a free society, individuals keep the government honest, not the other way around.

    The president has given Congress a firm deadline to pass a health care bill. In the next seven weeks all sides should put their ideas on the table and have it out. What is not acceptable, though, is delay and posturing. Organizing for America, the organization set up by the President’s former campaign manager, David Plouffe, has asked Americans for donations to combat those who are allegedly spreading “fear and confusion” about the changes the administration seeks. I would contend that if the American people are fearful and confused the administration should look in the mirror. We are on the cusp of a major debate and neither the administration nor its allies on the Hill have put their ideas in clear legislative language.

    Many on the left are obviously worried about a repeat of 1993 when their detailed plan was released early, roundly criticized then defeated. While hiding the ball might be a good short-term political strategy, a plan that can’t survive public scrutiny does not deserve to become law.

  81. cynkading Says:

    This was on Lame Cherry’s site and thought I would post it. I found comfort in his words.

    Barack Obama’s Omen Tree

    Since August 2008, this blog has catalogued the major signs or omens associated with Barack Obama in showing that very bad things are destined to happen to him and America. The proof of the signs from the Spiritual are in evidence in how bad things have degenerated in America under Obama after George W. Bush actually had things stabilized.

    On June 9th, 2009, an event occurred which is another refinement and affirmation of the signs which foretell the utter ruin of Barack Obama.
    On this afternoon a storm rolled in and snapped off a European linden at it’s base. This tree was located in front of the West Wing and Pennsylvania Avenue and was planted in 1940 by the help apparently and not by an American President in Franklin Roosevelt.
    The fate of this tree is to be ground up and used as mulch by ground crews.

    The interpretation of such omens is fluid but certain in God, but the symbolism is profound and far reaching.

    The prediction is a storm as in chaos will come upon the White House executive by forces in this world and guided from the Spiritual.
    It is fitting that as Barack Obama is a hireling working for the central European axis as exposed here, that of all trees, it would be a European linden which would be struck signifying that Obama’s power source is cut off.

    Crucially the main part which makes a tree a visual tree was snapped off from it’s base, the root of his power and his support is shown, it will end violently and swiftly.

    1940 being the date of FDR which Barack Obama has attempted to link to in person, and, in Obama’s strangulating the US economy to bring on near depression terms in mirror of what FDR did to grab more power, notes that the storm downing this tree that this time it will end in violent failure.

    The location of the tree in front of the West Wing, where Obama and Axelrod Inc. reside, along with it being Pennsylvania Avenue as the corridor where executives enter and leave the seat of power notes a fracturing or cutting off of the executive to the flow of power coming from the American people.

    The tree is snapped off directly, pointing at the West Wing with a slight left tilt. The omen is directly pointing at Barack Obama.

    This is not a Presidential tree as in one a President planted. This is a tree which the help planted and it’s European origins mark it as an Obama omen tree.

    The end of the tree in being ground up and scattered as mulch by common people, notes that there will be no glorious remembrance of Barack Obama.

    Trees are Biblical in being signs of witness and pagan worship. Abraham planted a tree as a sign in covenant. Due to their longevity, their life force and their reaching to the heavens, they are one of the strongest signs as omens when involved with humans. In many ways, the tree is human of the flora world.

    The interpretation is certain in this and I will not in God’s Spirit delve into this deeper as I do not want to know the details beyond what has already been noted here previously in utter ruin is linked to Barack Hussein Obama.

    This omen tree confirms that prophecy once again.

    agtG 229

  82. Troy Says:

    Shots fired in Holocaust Museum

    Media is already spinning it as a “white supremacist”

  83. rosettasister Says:

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