Bienvenido a América, Señor Trujillo!


sol trujillo

Telstra boss Sol Trujillo goes home By Rachel Hewitt

AFTER nearly four years of very public jousting as the boss of Telstra, Sol Trujillo has left Australia quietly and gone home to San Diego.,23739,25509173-3122,00.html

The American was expected to leave the job on June 30 but went on Thursday, making way for his successor David Thodey to take the helm of Australia‘s biggest telco.

Mr Trujillo goes with $3 million in severance pay and share options.

His financial bonus for the year will be decided in August. He will have received about $35 million for his three years and 10 months in the job.

Mr Thodey and new chairman Catherine Livingstone are expected to end the era of confrontation that pitted Mr Trujillo and former chairman Donald McGauchie against the Federal Government.

In the past year, Mr Trujillo, 57, saw Telstra’s share price pummelled to record lows and the telco excluded from the Federal Government’s original tender for a National Broadband Network.

Mr Trujillo, who holds a seat on the board of US retailer Target, has not revealed his future plans, though he is scheduled to speak about bandwidth economics at a Californian conference today.

In announcing his resignation in February, Mr Trujillo said: “I have elderly parents, I have children, I have all kinds of reconnecting to do and, to be frank, I need to lose about eight kilos too.”

Telstra scrip closed 2c off at $3.18.


Telstra Tower, Canberra, Australian Capital Territory

Business Daily – Wed, 20 May 09

Sol Trujillo interview – approx. final third of podcast

See also:

Sol Trujillo suggests Government’s broadband plan will never happen,22049,25515218-5001024,00.html?from=public_rss

From rocsims (Those Aussies are a strange lot, indeed!)

136 Responses to “Bienvenido a América, Señor Trujillo!”

  1. Tenacity Says:

    “The state of Hawaii provided a copy of Obama’s birth certificate but refused to release the original because of privacy reasons, according to news reports.”

    Can’t these morons get anything straight? Hawaii never said they gave anybody a copy of the COLB and the forgery that was posted was NOT a birth certificate!!!!!!

    “There’s nothing in the Constitution about what you do to show that you met the requirements and there is nothing in federal law,” Goodlatte said recently.

    Geeez Loueeeze…I’d rather have a free bottle in front of me than a free frontal labotomy. Is there anyone competent left in D.C.? Is there not a certification process? Is there not a Congress or a Judiciary that is designed to check and enforce? Does not every citizen have standing when it comes to harm being done by the violation of the highest law in the land? All the mechanisms are in place if you don’t have usurping criminals ignoring the law. Wake up people!!!! It is now up to US (that’s you and me, We The People) that are duty bound to hold these lying traitorous thieves accountable because the politicians (as opposed to statesmen) are either criminals and/or incompetent!!!!

    BTW: Welcome back Troy, you loony racist, you. Just wanted to make you feel at home.

  2. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Hello Tenacity– How are you? No, there is no one competent in DC…

  3. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    I’ll be back later. Going to make bread.

  4. Troy Says:

    BTW: Welcome back Troy, you loony racist, you. Just wanted to make you feel at home.
    Nice rant!!!!…I couldn’t have done it better, myself. 😉

  5. Troy Says:

    Welcome back Patty…Long time, no see. 8)

  6. Troy Says:

    By golly, I believe I like this video. 😉

  7. Troy Says:

    Bildeberg Plan 2009

  8. Troy Says:

    Important….pay attention

  9. Tenacity Says:

    Troy Says:

    May 21, 2009 at 2:42 am
    Important….pay attention
    Which article were you referring to?

    I found this to be an excellent chronicle. I’m not certain of the Canadian birth thinking given TIC’s grandmother’s testimony of being in the hospital room in Mombassa…who knows? The rest conforms with most of my research.

  10. Tenacity Says:

    This is a test. I right clicked on the article title and hit properties. Then copied the URL. Let’s see if this is what Troy (da man) said he liked:

  11. Tenacity Says:

    So Troy (the one armed fisherman),
    What did you catch? Hopefully not a cold.

  12. Tenacity Says:

    I’m hoping this wasn’t just a drive by. You’ve been missed!

  13. Tenacity Says:

    To answer your question…I need to be cloned. Boy would that make a few people really unhappy. Actually, if I were cloned, I would just create that much more work for myselves. Let’s see…I have managed to get at least 2 weeks further behind since I last wrote to you. I’ve embarraced myself with how out of shape I am. My wife’s been begging me for 2…no make that 3 weeks to straighten up my home office. I’ve learned that the national freedom movement leadership is full of over-inflated egos across the board. Both sides of the battle seem to be successfully self destructing (God at work). No doubt the opposition is 10 times better organized than we are. We are running out of time. I’m getting a hell of an education and trying to figure out how best to put it to use. The contacts I’ve made since becoming a proud member of Rose’s Gang is boggling my mind and consuming much of my productive time.

    So what else would you like to know. How the heck are you?

  14. Troy Says:

    Ten, sorry about the confusion on my above posts….I had isolated the video and the other article, but they didn’t post here that way.

    Yes it was the 1776 vs 1984 video and the “important article was titled as,
    Investors suckered once again .. Elite stockholders planning to pull the rug out from underneath creating new economic blowout
    Tenacity Says:

    May 21, 2009 at 4:56 am
    So Troy (the one armed fisherman),
    What did you catch? Hopefully not a cold.
    How could you have possibly known this?….I had tendonitis so bad in my right elbow that I could hardly fish at all. 😦

  15. Tenacity Says:

    Did you hear about the one armed fisherman? He caught a fish this big (holding up only one hand). So I guess I’m not psychic after all.

    Sorry to hear about your tendonitis. Boy, did my flippancy just kick in…I bestl refrain from any comment.

  16. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Hey Again– Nope, no drive-by’s. I had to go make bread– literally. I’ve really missed you guys. My heart breaks over Cindy. I am really, really, sorry. I left a post over at the RIP site, but just want to say to my friends here–I’m sorry I haven’t been here. I’ll try to stop in more often and stay longer.

    I’m taking a team to Kenya in September to build a church/school/clinic and I’m getting ready to go over this summer and get some wells dug for a Maasai tribe — God willing and the drill bits go through–sort of thing. But, it takes all of my time. My family feels like I’m sort of drive by to them too. It really takes 17 hours a day right now.

    Just like hanging with your best buds, when I come here, I don’t want to leave! Also, I have had to be very careful– not to seem paranoid, but I’ve had a lot of stuff happen since I became “vocal about the POTUS” that never had before. Not to say they are connected, but just very fishy! It made me “aware” at the very least.

  17. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Ten– Just take a deep breath– in and out. Don’t know if this will help with your office bit or not— but the way I get “jobs” like that done is to set a timer, I can only work for 10 minutes on it, and when the timer goes off– I go on to whatever else I was doing. I find I get a lot done in that 10 minutes, and it is easier for me to get 10 minutes to work on a job than a whole day. I may do that three or four times a day. Just like taking a break. Sometimes it’s all I need to get me started on a job I’ve really just been “putting off” because I knew that it would be a two or three hour job and didn’t want to do it. OK that’s the end of Susie’s helpful hints!

    Since I think everyone else is sleeping– I’m on east coast– I’ll go get coffee and try to check back later. Meeting with well driller for Kenya today, so I’m on his schedule. Bbl 🙂

  18. Troy Says:

    Tenacity Says:

    May 21, 2009 at 8:56 am
    Did you hear about the one armed fisherman? He caught a fish this big (holding up only one hand). So I guess I’m not psychic after all.
    I can’t say that I’ve heard of the one armed fisherman, but I have heard of the “one legged man in an ass kicking contest”….Sometimes I feel like that. 😉

  19. Katie Says:

    Now I know why I had nightmares last night. This was the last commercial I saw before going to sleep. Right up there with chiaobama and the little blue book.

  20. rosettasister Says:

    HAPPENING NOW: Cheney defends security policies

    Full text of Cheney speech

    “The administration has found that it’s easy to receive applause in Europe for closing Guantanamo. But it’s tricky to come up with an alternative that will serve the interests of justice and America’s national security,” said Cheney.

    “It is recklessness cloaked in righteousness and would make the American people less safe,” said Cheney, long viewed as a leading hawk in the Bush administration.

    …a speech at the American Enterprise Institute on the same day Obama defended his approach to terrorism, Cheney said Obama’s decision to ban tough tactics “is unwise in the extreme.”

  21. rosettasister Says:

    The damage has already been done. Sadly many Pakistanis will have read the original story but not Hersh’s denial.

    I did not say Cheney killed Benazir: Hersh

    US journalist Seymour Hersh on Monday contradicted news reports being published in South Asia that quote him as saying a “special death squad” made by former US vice president Dick Cheney had killed Benazir Bhutto.

  22. rosettasister Says:

  23. rosettasister Says:

    Christopher Hitchens on Dick Cheney

    HH: But with a minute left, do you welcome or do you oppose the return to the lists of Richard Cheney?

    CH: Oh, I mean, I think it’s a very good thing to see someone put up such a fight on what is obviously to him a matter of principle.

    And it’s clearly had an unnerving effect on many people.

    You might look at a column Richard Cohen wrote for the Washington Post last week saying all right, Cheney’s challenge must be met.

    Let’s see these memos that he says prove him right.

    Maybe, maybe this did help us against our enemies. I mean, that’s the kind of argument one wants to be having.

    (Sounds reasonable.)

  24. rosettasister Says:

    Here’s one doctor’s response to Hugh Hewitt’s wonderings about where the doctors are as the “government option”/single payer/Obama-Pelosi-Reid rationing approaches.

    An Answer to Hugh Hewitt


    America will not settle for the status quo.

    If the right frames the debate that way, they will lose, we will all lose.

    Single-payer is not on the table.

    And so the left’s mantra is now “public” option (government option).

    Drive the argument home that “public” option will lead inevitably to single-payer.

    That’s a good argument.

    Hugh Hewitt didn’t like the original “Gang of 14.”

    But I hope he realizes now that it’s the moderates in both houses who will decide this thing.

    But keep your eye on the ball, on the nitty gritty of who is framing this debate and what they’re saying.

    Right now that would be Olympia Snowe and Ben Nelson and, yes, Arlen Specter.

    And what they’re espousing now is delaying any “public” option for years and pulling that “trigger” ONLY IF the private sector doesn’t step up to the plate.

    I don’t see how you argue with that.

  25. rosettasister Says:

    They are calling this the “fallback” option

    US Sen Baucus: Public Health Plan ‘Fallback’ Possible

    Because of Baucus’ propensity for using the “on the table” expression, it is unclear what the actual prospects are for the fallback plan.

    Still, Baucus has notably declared some things “off the table,” such as a government-run “single payer” health-care plan.

    The proposed public plan option – which would supplement, but not replace private insurers – has become a partisan point of contention in the debate over how to cover the more than 40 million Americans who currently do not have health insurance.

    While most Democrats say such a plan would help draw down costs within the health-care sector and give private insurers real competition, Republicans express fear that it would drive the private insurers out of the market altogether.

    Sen. Olympia Snowe, R-Maine, has reportedly held meetings on the fallback option, which could bridge the gap between lawmakers on the issue.


    A similar fallback mechanism was included in the legislation that created Medicare Part D prescription drug coverage, and a public plan was never created in that instance because private plans emerged to offer the drug coverage.

    (BTW, Bush never got any credit for this.)


    Baucus put “very high” odds on reaching bipartisan agreement on the legislation, saying he is “75% to 80% positive” that he can bring some Republicans along.

    He said his Republican counterpart on the Finance panel, Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, is “hanging in there” and “working hard” on an agreement.

    Baucus said he expected that a final version of the legislation would include some basic elements, including a ban on excluding people from coverage who have pre-existing medical conditions and a statutory minimum benefits package that could be offered in a small-group and individual health insurance “exchange.”

    Baucus also said that expanded health coverage would not apply to undocumented aliens, saying it would be “too politically explosive” to do so.

  26. rosettasister Says:

  27. rosettasister Says:

  28. rosettasister Says:

    The Taco Bell Dana Carvey Show

  29. rosettasister Says:

    When I was listening to Arnold yesterday, I was reminded of Dana Carvey.

    Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger talks about his funniest day at work

    You can listen to Arnold’s remarks here: (approx. the final third)

    Guest host Duane Patterson plays audio from Vice President Joe Biden’s commencement speech at Wake Forest, and also reaction to the tax proposition defeats from California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, and takes calls reacting to them.

    [audio src="" /]

  30. rosettasister Says:

    All these comedy clips got me to thinking about Allan Havey.

    We went to school together in N Miami Bch, FL.

    He was 3 yrs ahead of me and graduated with my brother.

    It’s pretty funny when he talks about “Crow” – that’s what we called our principal. We were bad!

    Come to think of it, he hasn’t changed very much!

  31. rosettasister Says:

  32. rosettasister Says:

    Tide turns against the Taliban

    In Pakistan there has been a real change in the past few months – the public has had enough of the Taliban and the army has gone to war. As a result well over one million people have been forced to flee their homes.

    “ They say, ‘eliminate them, clear up our area, for God’s sake’, that is the message that is coming from the local people ”

    Tariq Hyatt Khan, senior government official

  33. rosettasister Says:

    Pakistan, India and U.S. begin sharing intelligence

    The U.S. also sometimes brings intelligence on Pakistan’s efforts to combat militants to India’s attention, with Pakistan’s consent, this person said.

    Examples include showing Indian officials evidence of progress against militants in the Pakistani regions of Bajaur, Swat, and Buner.


    U.S. intelligence officers have been able to track the whereabouts of key Pakistani Taliban leaders, such as Baitullah Mehsud, accused of orchestrating the murder of former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, said this person.


    Sufi Muhammad and Maulana Qazi Fazlullah, leaders of a militant group aligned with Mr. Mehsud, are also tracked, according to the person familiar with the efforts.

    Mr. Muhammad brokered the now-defunct deal between the Pakistani government and the Taliban to enforce Islamic Sharia law in the Swat region in Pakistan.

    The government of Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari is hoping that Congress’s victory can also provide the Indian government with the political cover to move one or two divisions away from the Pakistan border in coming months, according to an official briefed on the diplomacy.

    But Indian officials say they aren’t ready to do so.

    An Indian government official said New Delhi has documented an escalation of cross-border infiltrations by Pakistani militants into Kashmir.

  34. Foxtrot Says:

    I peek in occasionally and just read about the devastating news of Cindy. You all may recall that she lived in the same town as I do, though we have never met. What a sad time for the Rosetta Gang. Cindy was compassionate, intelligent, and tenacious. She was one in a million. May she find peace with God. Cindy, you will always be remembered.

  35. rosettasister Says:


    Thanks so much!

    Don’t be a stranger!

    I’m going to copy and paste your comments to Cindy’s memorial post.

    Hope that’s alright.


  36. rosettasister Says:

    Actually, there were quite a few new posts that I hadn’t seen yet.

    Have a look:

  37. rosettasister Says:

    Soy Protein Used in “Natural” Foods Bathed in Toxic Solvent Hexane

    Virtually all “protein bars” on the market today are made with soy protein.

    Many infant formula products are also made with soy protein, and thousands of vegetarian products (veggie burgers, veggie cheese, “natural” food bars, etc.) are made with soy protein.

    That soy protein is almost always described as safe and “natural” by the companies using it.

    But there’s a dirty little secret the soy product industry doesn’t want you to know:

    Much of the “natural” soy protein used in foods today is bathed in a toxic, explosive chemical solvent known as hexane.

  38. Foxtrot Says:

    I noticed someone had asked what city she lived in. She lived in Terre Haute, Indiana. FYI.

    Rose, thank you for posting my tribute to Cindy. Best of luck to the Rosetta Gang.

  39. rosettasister Says:

    Thanks, Foxy!

    You know I never did ask you if it was okay that I call you that.

  40. rosettasister Says:

    I just caught the last few minutes of this show, so I was wondering if MommaE spoke of Berg v Taitz.

    Sentinel Radio Presents MommaE Of MommaE Radio Rebels Best In Politics

    You may want to check out Upcoming Episodes


    Alan Keyes Live Tonight

    9:00 Eastern
    6:00 Pacific

  41. Foxtrot Says:

    That is just fine, Rose.

  42. rosettasister Says:

    I wish someone would call me “Foxy” !

    All I ever get is “Rosie” !!!

  43. rosettasister Says:

    “Why’d he” never release that whitey tape?!

    “About That Whitey Tape”

    By Larry Johnson on May 17, 2009 at 12:02 AM

    Since an attention-starved “journalist” named David Wiegel wote an article Saturday that memorializes my post a year ago on the so-called “whitey tape” — purported to show Michelle Obama using the term “whitey” — I’ve decided to re-post the two articles I wrote last year to refute any and all rumors.

    (See more articles posted today, via

    Why was the tape never revealed and used?

    One theory is that the hardline conservatives in possession of the tape did not want John McCain to win, a plausible theory given the hard right’s reluctance in general to aid McCain’s campaign.

    So, without further ado, here are my articles written last year, in full, and with links to the original posts and comments:

  44. Foxtrot Says:

    LOL, Rose! The hope the moniker “foxy” has more to do with intellect then aesthetics. 😉

  45. rosettasister Says:

    “foxy” as in outfoxed.

    Actually, I was thinking of this:

  46. Foxtrot Says:

    My husband loved Jimi Hendrix. He considers him the best guitarist ever to play the instrument.

    Thanks Rose.

  47. rosettasister Says:

    Polarik has been very quiet of late. I hope he is well.

    Something he posted earlier this month.

  48. rosettasister Says:

    My son’s not bad, either!

    Dedicated to Cindy’s memory:

  49. rosettasister Says:

    Obots are such nice people!


    Hal Turner

    Submitted on 2009/05/21 at 8:35pm

    GOOD RIDDANCE. (Cindy)

    Which one of you lunatic conspiracy nuts is next?

  50. rosettasister Says:


    Probably best to ignore, but it seems “Hal Turner” has been making the rounds.

    • Obama arrest, Obama indictment, Blagojevich indictment …

    The IP of JASPER is I turned the internet threats over to our sherriff’s department. My friends there promised some action. ……/obama-arrest-obama-indictment-blagojecvich-indictment-blagojevich-trial-rezko-talking-stuart-le… – 82k

    • Georgia Common Law Grand Jury, April 15, 2009, Interview, Carl …

    Their IP is It tracks to Everett Wash. Real Democratic nuthouse area. venice // April 16, 2009 at 8:05 am ……/georgia-common-law-grand-jury-april-15-2009-interview-carl-swensson-sam-sewell-momma… – 93k

    • NY Times, Acorn, Obama, March 30, 2009, Times pulled story, Obama …

    fight to the death, just hands and body (I am probably older than you). IP address of Jasper: Eagle // April 6, 2009 at 2:09 pm ……/ny-times-acorn-obama-march-30-2009-times-pulled-story-obama-ties-to-acorn-house-judiciary… – 445k

    Found at Citizen Wells:

    oldsalt76 said:

    Looks as though Miss Otis is back. Anybody get her IP. I am betting it is the same as the two last week. Their IP is It tracks to Everett Wash. Real Democratic nuthouse area.

  51. jrinNC Says:

    See that is exactly what is wrong with this world. All I can say – God, don’t like ugly. Payback will be a “biatchi” for all those sad folks.

  52. rosettasister Says:

    Hey, jr!

    I figure we’re dealing with a twelve-year old here, or a very small, heartless person indeed.

    You know, we’re either right or we’re wrong.

    And if we’re wrong, why bother with us?

  53. rosettasister Says:

    “a very small, heartless person indeed”

    I just figured out who it is, Keith Olbermann!

  54. Troy Says:

    The IP of JASPER is I turned the internet threats over to our sherriff’s department. My friends there promised some action. …
    Hmm….I wonder if that would be Jasper, Texas…..That would be a nice and short country drive for me and I have connections too. 8)

  55. rosettasister Says:

    Hey, Troy!

    Some are saying Everett, WA

    But, fear not, the proper authorities have been notified.

  56. Troy Says:

    rosettasister Says:

    May 21, 2009 at 10:22 pm
    Hey, Troy!

    Some are saying Everett, WA

    But, fear not, the proper authorities have been notified.
    Very good….I wonder why the idiot would use the racist Turner’s name….Thats about as idiotic as his/her comments.

  57. rosettasister Says:

    I think the implication is we must all be racists here.

  58. jrinNC Says:

    Each day I keep getting more sick with Bambi’s voice. But today’s speech I literally thought I was going to puke. My comments above apply to that one as well. Oh, I forgot, he thinks he is PERFECT.

    Well, I am sure some of you will boo me when I say that I have been re-reading the Left Behind series again but I swear that Bambi has read it too – because some of the things old Nicolae was doing sure sounds like Bambi to me. LOL

  59. rosettasister Says:

    “Well, I am sure some of you will boo me”

    That’s okay, doncha know we’re all loons here?!

  60. jrinNC Says:

    You got that right Rose, just a bunch of loons. But I got to say that the camaraderie her is GREAT.

  61. jrinNC Says:

    I mean “here”

  62. rosettasister Says:

    Hal, it occurred to me you might be in need of a “harmony” intervention.

  63. Troy Says:

    rosettasister Says:

    May 21, 2009 at 10:54 pm
    Hal, it occurred to me you might be in need of a “harmony” intervention.
    I was thinking of something more along the lines of a good old fashioned Texas ass whippin’ 😀

  64. rosettasister Says:

    We’re going to have to work on Hal.

    Troy, this one’s for you!


    Hal Turner

    Submitted on 2009/05/21 at 11:22pm

    Bring it on motherfucker!!!


    (Now, Hal, why would you wish us all dead?!)

  65. rosettasister Says:

    going outside for awhile before the skies open up.

    Lord knows we really need the rain!

    I’ll try not to drown.

    I wouldn’t want to give Hal the satisfaction.

  66. Troy Says:

    Hal Turner

    Submitted on 2009/05/21 at 11:22pm

    Bring it on motherfucker!!!
    Obot Hal, you know that I would never fuck your mother….I’m not into beastiality, as in, I don’t do sheep….If I did then you might have to call me daaa aaa aaaad.

  67. Troy Says:

    Rose, there is no need to post anymore of the comments from the little piece of Obot dog shit that calls itself Hal….We all know who and what the twerp is.

  68. rosettasister Says:

    okay, Troy.

    good enough.

  69. Troy Says:

    Thanks from us all Foxy Rose. 😉

  70. rosettasister Says:

    I’m blushing!

    Foxy Rosie, I like that!

  71. rosettasister Says:

    Alan Keyes Live

    Click on “Listen Live”

    Having trouble listening

    I’m also in chat room, which can also be accessed on main page

  72. rosettasister Says:

    Opened With Real Player

    Working so far

  73. goferit Says:

    If still having trouble try here.

  74. goferit Says:

    Sorry Gang, my link is for Mario Apuzzo and Charles Kerchner.

  75. Troy Says:


  76. rosettasister Says:

    Thanks, Troy!

    Steven Crowder is hilarious! Here’s some more:

  77. rosettasister Says:

  78. rosettasister Says:

    For old time’s sake.

    I had an interesting conversation with Interested Bystander earlier this evening.

    He told me about this thread and comment:

    Saturday, May 16, 2009 at 12:29 am

    And also this thread:

    Where the following claim is made:

    “Larry’s *ART* is Interested Bystander.”

    Interested Bystander says this:“Oh yeah, and the fact that Pete posted my real name on the regulator trying to intimidate me.”

    We were in a chat room so I didn’t get the entire story.

    But I think IB was saying that some at the cesspool made bogus claims about him and that he proved them wrong.

    No, say it isn’t so! (sarc)

    I’m sure there’s more to the story, but I don’t know where to look.

    Good night, good people!

  79. Troy Says:

    It sounds good to me. 🙂

  80. Troy Says:

    “Where’s the Birth Certificate?”

  81. Troy Says:

  82. Troy Says:

  83. Troy Says:

    Brain damaged Obama

  84. Troy Says:

    Brain damaged or short circuited?…I think that I found the problem.

  85. Troy Says:

    On this Memorial Day weekend; up your’s, Barack!!!

  86. rosettasister Says:

    Alan Keyes from last night:

    Scroll down to list of archived shows

    5/21/09 Click “Guest: Alan Keyes”

    “How’s the food in the South Bend jail?”

  87. rosettasister Says:

    Dr. Alveda King notes, “Abortion has done what the Klan only dreamed of.”


    I’m with Andrew Sullivan on this one:

    “Abortion and the States”

    19 Apr 2007 03:42 pm

    … there aren’t very many Senators (particularly with Rick Santorum gone!) who would relish a knock-down drag-out abortion battle, and that both national parties would have a vested interest in punting things to the states whenever possible, at least in the short term. Then again, I’m not particularly invested in whether the states or Congress make abortion law; I just the people making the laws to be subject to democratic pressures of some kind, for all the reasons Hadley Arkes lays out here:

    . . . step by step, the public would get used to these cardinal notions: that the freedom to order abortions, like any other kind of freedom, may be subject to plausible restrictions; that it is legitimate for legislatures to enact those restrictions; and that it is, in fact, possible for ordinary folk, with ordinary language, to deliberate about the grounds on which abortions could be said to be justified or unjustified.

    That Ezra Klein calls this description of a post-Roe world “scary for all the obvious reasons” only makes me all the more eager to see it become a reality.

  88. Troy Says:

    Here is an article just posted at America’s Right

    It’s funny how ONE SINGLE VIDEO of a FEMA camp was debunked as a railcar repair facility and now, by association, all of the hundreds of FEMA camps have been debunked…..The ones that accept this are of the same exact mindset as the folks that say, “Obama put his birth certificate online and it says he was born in Hawaii, so he is a natural born citizen.”…..(BRB, I have to go throw up…Ok, I’m back now)

    Does everyone remember that we were all recently defined and classified by Napolitano/Homeland Security as rightwing extremists and potential terrorists?….You haven’t already forgotten have you?….Just because the insane bitch apologized doesn’t mean that their views have changed one iota.

    As you read this article from America’s Right, think about your new classification as a potential domestic terrorist and think about all of the state of the art, empty FEMA camps.

    Here is a little snippet of what Oblowme has on his mind:

    President Obama told human rights advocates at the White House on Wednesday that he was mulling the need for a “preventive detention” system that would establish a legal basis for the United States to incarcerate terrorism suspects who are deemed a threat to national security but cannot be tried, two participants in the private session said.

    Do you need to read it again more slowly and carefully?….Nah, I didn’t think so….I’m sure that everyone picked up on the key words such as, “preventitive”, “legal”, “suspects”, “cannot”.

    All I can say, in the words of Monty Python’s Flying Circus, is “Nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no more, say no more”.

  89. ryansgrammy Says:

    Another step towards socialism. I wish Jake T would go after him and ACORN and be a hero!

  90. Troy Says:

    Top O the mornin to ya, Foxy Rosie. 😀

  91. Troy Says:

    This is interesting.

  92. rosettasister Says:

    An Irish Joke for a Certain Texan

    A Texan walks into a pub in Ireland and clears his voice to the crowd of drinkers. He says, “I hear you Irish are a bunch of hard drinkers. I’ll give $500 American dollars to anybody in here who can drink 10 pints of Guinness back-to-back.”

    The room is quiet, and no one takes up the Texan’s offer. One man even leaves.

    Thirty minutes later the same gentleman who left shows back up and taps the Texan on the shoulder. “Is your bet still good?” asks the Irishman.

    The Texan says yes and asks the bartender to line up 10 pints of Guinness. Immediately the Irishman tears into all 10 of the pint glasses, drinking them all back-to-back.

    The other pub patrons cheer as the Texan sits in amazement. The Texan gives the Irishman the $500 and says, “If ya don’t mind me askin’, where did you go for that 30 minutes you were gone?”

    The Irishman replies, “Oh… I had to go to the pub down the street to see if I could do it first.”

  93. rosettasister Says:

    I have the deepest admiration for John McCain. But does anyone seriously believe that he or Obama or any president, for that matter, wouldn’t utilize waterboarding if he or she deemed it a necessity?

    This is all about semantics and not about reality.

  94. rosettasister Says:

    Pelosi refuses to comment further on accusation that CIA may have lied to Congress, but GOP, including John McCain, still want her to prove it

    “If she’s accusing an agency of government that they are – that they have misbehaved and deceived Congress, then I think it’s her obligation to prove it. And if she needs to have those [CIA] documents to prove it, that’s fine with me,” McCain said. “We have to be careful about the morale, therefore the effectiveness, of the CIA and other intelligence agencies because we are in this struggle, as was just proven yesterday in New York City.

    So let’s get it done and move on and help these agencies protect America.”

  95. rosettasister Says:

    Mark Steyn, Erwin Chemerinsky, John Eastman With Hugh Hewitt

    Listen here:

    After a replay of the Mark Steyn interview, Hugh continues the debate over what to do with Guantanamo detainees with Smart Guys Erwin Chemerinsky and John Eastman.

    [audio src="" /]


    Mark Steyn’s analysis of a tale of two speeches today.


    HH: The backdrop to the speech today, Mark Steyn, bad timing for the President, of course, the arrest of four would-be bombers of synagogues and shooter-down of airlines and airplanes in New York.

    And I don’t believe they converted to radical Islam in prison because of waterboarding being conducted on the jihadists.

    MS: No, they didn’t, and in fact if he wanted to make a serious speech, he would have addressed the issue of Islamic recruitment and conversion in American and other Western prisons, which is really the same thing happened to Richard Reid, the shoe bomber.

    It’s actually by now a tried and tested formula for recruits.

    It’s a far more effective formula than running around the Middle East saying oh, have you seen, you know, the Americans are waterboarding some of us.

    This is actually an effective recruiting tool, what they’re doing in Western prisons. It’s sad to see someone with such a September 10th mentality trotting out these old lines.

    HH: All right, this will be a watershed speech, and people are going to be reviewing this for years to come, and I think it was a huge mistake on his part.


    The Smart Guys (Erwin Chemerinsky, John Eastman) continue to debate what to do with Guantanamo detainees

  96. rosettasister Says:

    “Letting the camel’s nose under the tent!” What’s that all about?! (Mitt Romney)

    Listen here:

    Hugh gets reaction to the two foreign policy speeches given by former Vice President Dick Cheney and President Barack Obama from former GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney, the Young Guns, and humorist and columnist James Lileks.

    [audio src="" /]


    Mitt Romney’s analysis of the two foreign policy speeches by Cheney and Obama


    HH: Now Governor, I want to switch subjects on you with the last three minutes here in this segment, because the push to single payer is underway in Washington, D.C.

    You oversaw a health care reform in Massachusetts that’s had a couple of years in the field now.

    How is what the Democrats are proposing in D.C. different from what you did, because a lot of them are saying oh, this is just the Romney plan on steroids.

    MR: Well, it’s probably the steroids that didn’t help it very much.

    There are two key differences.

    One, in the Democrats’ plan, they put a mandate on businesses to pay or play, so to speak, to basically pay for insurance of all their employees. That was not in our plan.

    And two, something I vehemently object to, they’re establishing a government insurance product, if you will, a government insurance company that will begin to sell insurance products to American citizens.

    Let me tell you, that is letting the camel’s nose under the tent. They are looking forward to having a time when government is providing the health insurance for all of Americans.

    That is the wrong way to go. Government-managed health care, government-managed insurance for health care is not the answer.

    Helping people get private insurance is what we did. That works, it does not require the government to get into this business for us to get people insured.

  97. rosettasister Says:

  98. rosettasister Says:

    How strange is this?!

    sisterrosetta, I need your voice on health care‏

    (You got it, Mr. President!)

    From: President Barack Obama (

    Sent: Wed 5/20/09 4:22 PM
    To: sisterrosetta LarrySinclairSupporter

  99. rosettasister Says:

  100. rosettasister Says:

    This Week at Nasa

  101. rosettasister Says:

    This is where the health care debate is headed, which is why the Daily Kooks are so upset about it.

    UPDATED: We’ve Got To Stop The Public Option “Trigger”

    Democracy For America sent out a mass e-mail asking us for our help to fight the latest idiocy out of the so-called “moderates” in the Senate like Sens. Olympia Snowe, Ben Nelson, and Evan Bayh.

    Here’s what Sen. Ben Nelson said about using the public option as a “trigger” in SEVEN YEARS from NOW if private insurance fails to offer comprehensive and affordable coverage.

    Senator Ben Nelson, a Nebraska Democrat and another member of the finance committee, said he favors the idea of a “trigger” that would expand government-provided health insurance only if other new attempts at expanding health-care coverage through the private sector appear inadequate. Nelson said he is wary of a big expansion of the government’s role in providing care.

    The public option, he said, should be seen as a “backup.”

    (Of course, what the Kooks fail to mention is that just such a “trigger” was a part of the hated Bush’s prescription plan for the elderly. Turns out that trigger never needed to be pulled because private insurers did, in fact, step up to the plate.)

    Oh, and the Kooks are going after Senator Wyden, too!

    UPDATE: Just got a major news alert. Remember those unions and how I mentioned they’re going to bat for us by pressing Senator Wyden to back off his so-called health care plan without the public option?

    Well, Senator Wyden is fighting back against our allies here. So much for a so-called progressive Democrat. The unions need our help here to respond to his lies below:

    “First he was attacked by insurance company lobbyists,” says a female narrator in the ad. “Now a couple of D.C. labor unions are attacking his plan, falsely claiming it would tax your healthcare.”

    “It’s not true — Wyden’s plan gives middle-class taxpayers a break and saves them about 300 bucks a year,” says the narrator.

    “Employers would still help pay for coverage, but we’d make our own choices. If you like the coverage you have, you can keep it or choose another plan — and every American is finally covered for life, even if they change jobs or get laid off.”

    “When you’ve got a healthcare plan that is being attacked by insurance lobbyists and some D.C. labor unions, you must be doing something right,” says the narrator.

    Wyden concludes the spot himself by announcing: “I’m Sen. Ron Wyden and I approve this ad because I won’t let D.C. lobbyists stop healthcare reform again — not this time.”

    Let me be clear on this. Senator Wyden does NOT want a public option in the final health care reform bill. The unions know this. It’s why they’re going after him.

  102. rosettasister Says:

  103. rosettasister Says:

    Giant laser experiment powers up


    The US has finished constructing a huge physics experiment aimed at recreating conditions at the heart of our Sun.

  104. rosettasister Says:

    Pakistan conflict area deserted


  105. rosettasister Says:

    Know Your Enemy — Baitullah Mehsud

    Good, good … Good, good, good!

    Baitullah Mehsud fears offensive as key aide arrested


    In a respite to Pakistan and all terror condemning nations, Taliban tribal leader Baitullah Mehud is now running helter-skelter in a bid to avoid any latest offensive against him.

    As Pakistan has arrested a key aide of the guerilla leader, Baitullah’s arrest has become likely. The arrested confidante is a long time partner of Baitullah Mehsud and is believed to know his all possible hideouts and modus operandi.

    Reports say that the arrested militant has been assisting Baitullah since childhood and his arrest has made the militia leader to run for his life.

    Baitullah, who is the prime accused in the killing of former prime minister late Benazir Bhutto is apprehensive that the arrest of his aide may come as a deadly offensive against him by the Pakistani army.


  106. rosettasister Says:

    Linda Starr posted this comment – not sure what to make of that!

    CaptainAstro | May 20, 2009 6:45 PM |

    The best part is, Barry’s Bots posted Lisa’s (Liberi) info on their board WEEKS before anyone knew about it.

    (What board would that be?)

    Phil would never know that, because he probably doesn’t read message boards.

    Lisa wouldn’t admit it, because (in my opinion) I think the Bots blackmailed her into doing what they say, or they would expose her.

    Then, they took over Phil’s board.

    (Sounds nuts to me!)

    Once Linda found out about what was posted, Lisa probably turned it on Linda to prevent the truth about the Bots taking over Phil’s board and exposing her background.

    (Even nuttier!)

    (Again, my opinion) it’s opinion, but it seems to fit in my mind.

    (Well, who am I to pass judgment on what might fit into this person’s mind?)

    Now unless I missed some huge part of this whole story, this is what seems to be the REAL truth, to me.

    (My guess is you did miss some huge part, so why would Linda Starr post this?)

    I guess we’ll see when the Court case is heard.

  107. rosettasister Says:

    The Justiciability of Eligibility: May Courts Decide Who Can Be President?

    Daniel P. Tokaji

    Associate Professor of Law, The Ohio State University, Moritz College of Law; Associate Director, Election Law @ Moritz,

    See also:

  108. rosettasister Says:

    Fox News Live

  109. rosettasister Says:

    Dear God, another subject, please!!!

  110. rosettasister Says:

    How Joe Biden Wrecked the Judicial Confirmation Process

    The vice president can’t complain if Republicans object to Obama’s Supreme Court nominee.

  111. rosettasister Says:

    These translations are usually pretty funny, but better than nothing!

    Free online text and web page language translation tools

  112. jrinNC Says:

    RE: rosettasister Says:
    May 22, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    Well I can personally say that BOTH of my credit cards raised their interest rates on me from 9% to 19% and the one I unfortunately had at 19% went to 23%. I closed both accounts immediately so I could retain the current rates and get them paid off as fast as I can. This is what these credit card companies are doing before the SH*T hits the fan with Bambi’s law. So, if everyone does this and pays off their credit card debt, what will these lovely companies do for money them – hmmmmmm????????

  113. jrinNC Says:

    Wow I can’t believe my spelling has gotten so atrocious – I mean “for money theN.” I will blame it on ARTHUR – itis.

  114. Troy Says:

    rosettasister Says:

    May 22, 2009 at 3:45 pm
    I have the deepest admiration for John McCain. But does anyone seriously believe that he or Obama or any president, for that matter, wouldn’t utilize waterboarding if he or she deemed it a necessity?
    I would never vote for one that wouldn’t, which means if McCain ever ran again he would not get my vote…I only voted for him this last time because there was NOBODY else to vote for…Lesser of two evils, so to speak.

  115. jrinNC Says:

    I agree wholeheartedly Troy. Believe me, when Bambi is placed in a corner he’ll do whatever it takes and so would anybody else.

  116. jrinNC Says:

    Without going into details, let me tell you waterboarding has been around I know since the late 80’s and early 90’s that I am aware of and I wouldn’t be surprised that it was even in the 60’s.

  117. rosettasister Says:

    für Polarik

    Man ist was man isst.

    Das ist der alte Märchenwald!
    Es duftet die Lindenblüte!
    Der wunderbare Mondenglanz
    Bezaubert mein Gemüte.

    More Heinrich Heine:

    Heine was a friend of George Sand (The Good Lady of Nohant)

  118. Troy Says:

    Thrown in prison for speaking out against corrupt cops and prosecutor.

  119. Troy Says:

    Cheney’s daughter, Liz, seems to be just as sharp as her old man….She certainly stood her ground against the ultra liberal leftard, Anderson Pooper….Watch and see how Pooper tries to spin the truth about what a particular report states….These effing jackasses just make up crap as they go along.

  120. Troy Says:

    One of Lame Cherry’s better and more coherent articles.
    The beginning of hyper-inflation has started.

  121. Troy Says:

    From America’s Right

    Here is an excerpt….Roflmaoooo

    Perhaps, if Guantanamo Bay has such a taint but otherwise fulfills its purpose, this administration can merely rename it, much like it changed “Global War on Terror” to “Overseas Contingency Operation” or even “terrorism” itself to “man-caused disaster.” I propose, in that vein, that the new name for the terrorist detainee facility in Guantanamo Bay be: “The Happy Land of the Bearded, Questionable Slappywags.”

  122. rosettasister Says:


    Submitted on 2009/05/22 at 10:03pm

    I like that song you posted from Elton John (harmony)..

    (I love Elton John!)

    But you conservatives hate homos like him (he’s also a liberal) ,

    (I’m not even sure how to define a conservative any longer. Let’s see I love George W Bush like a brother, I voted for Hillary and then John McCain, I believe Roe v Wade should be overturned and then I believe legislatures should decide what restrictions should be placed on abortion. I believe abortion-on-demand is evil. I believe partial-birth abortion is evil. I believe in both Creation and evolution. I believe in limited government, the smaller, the better. I know sometimes the public sector has to step in.

    I believe Dick Cheney is right. I believe we have been fighting the Anti-Semites here and abroad. I believe Pope Benedict is right when he says Anti-Semitism has been rearing its ugly head. (Actually I think the Pope stole that line from me.)

    I believe Obama will be our president for four years. I believe he may even turn out to be a very good president. I’m not even sure why he embroils our people in these indecisive distractions, when it seems to me he’s kicking some serious terrorist butt in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. I did worry he would be too weak, but I haven’t seen that yet.

    I do believe Obama would take this country too far to the left if he had his druthers. He seems to be open to compromise, but he hasn’t proven that yet. I am watching to see where he comes down on health care reform. That will be a serious indicator for me.

    I love conservatives, homos and liberals.

    so I didn’t know whether you meant that as an insult or what…

    (Not meant as an insult.)

    I believe you will find that we really run the gamut here at RosettaSister. We agree to disagree much of the time, but have a lot of respect for one another’s views.

    About the only thing we all agree on all the time is that Obama is hiding something from his past.

    But we diverge from there.

    Some here will never accept Obama as their president, as they believe him to be Constitutionally ineligible.

    All of us love our country. Most of us love our Creator.

    I will accept Obama as my president when he has earned my trust. And that hasn’t happened yet.

  123. Troy Says:

    rosettasister Says:

    May 22, 2009 at 11:25 pm

    Submitted on 2009/05/22 at 10:03pm

    I like that song you posted from Elton John (harmony)..

    (I love Elton John!)

    But you conservatives hate homos like him (he’s also a liberal) ,
    Rose, is this where Hal’s comments ended and then your’s began?

  124. Troy Says:

    Hal began on this site by popping in uninvited and unknown to any of us here at Rosetta’s, by basically giving a big FU to our dearly departed Cindy….Let’s not forget that…I damn sure won’t.

    Personally I don’t give one good god damned rat’s ass what Hal thinks or has to say….If I never have to see another comment from the piece of shit it will be just fine with me.

    Go fuck yourself Hal!!!

  125. Troy Says:

    Hal Turner

    Submitted on 2009/05/21 at 8:35pm

    GOOD RIDDANCE. (Cindy)

    Which one of you lunatic conspiracy nuts is next?

  126. Troy Says:

    For all viewers of Rosetta Sister blog; the above post was made by Hal and it was posted by Hal on the memorial tribute page that was dedicated to our dearly departed “JustAmericanCindy” here at Rose’s place.

    How many of you would like to hear more from Hal?…Raise your hands.

    Yep, that’s what I thought….GOOD RIDDANCE HALFRED!!!!

  127. Hal Says:

    Actually Rose, I do apologize to you and you only. I don’t agree with some of your views but your approach isn’t full of ignorance and hate that many on the far right express.

    I really do think some far right wingnuts hate this country; They are openly racist but they bash YOU if you happen to point it out to em. They threaten to attack my leaders (violently) ; They call the Obamas , including their children every name in the book – make fun of how they look. People like Orly Taitz talk about bringing up a Civilian army to attack my country – which is SEDITION. ., I’ve even heard people on the far right talk about BURNING books that tend to go against their world view (evolution related for example)
    These same people look at folks like Ann Coulter as a role model and spout that type of venom at anyone who disagrees with them.

    So that’s just a little taste of where my hate comes from. I hate this side of America. They hate me. I consider them Enemies….

  128. jrinNC Says:


    RE: rosettasister Says:
    May 21, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    Hey, jr!

    I figure we’re dealing with a twelve-year old here, or a very small, heartless person indeed.

    You know, we’re either right or we’re wrong.

    And if we’re wrong, why bother with us?

    I think that this is a kid (teen) who is doing this. Don’t let it rattle your cage. Wording is not indicative of an adult. And if it is an adult they are extremely immature and stupid. We all knew Cindy for who she really was and nothing can take that from us.

    So HAL – GROW UP and get off the porch – you don’t even rate playing with the big dogs.

  129. Troy Says:

    More commentary on Bilderberg 2009 meeting

  130. jrinNC Says:

    Also, as Rose said “You know, we’re either right or we’re wrong. And if we’re wrong, why bother with us?” I know we are right and that is all that matters and that is why they like to bother us.

  131. Troy Says:

    Thanks Jr,

    I tried to help Cindy before anyone here knew what was going on with her, so it might be a little more personal for me when some scum sucking piece of human feces makes godless comments like that about a fine lady, as we know Cindy was.

    I won’t tolerate it!!!

  132. rosettasister Says:

    Troy Says:
    May 23, 2009 at 12:37 am

    Thanks Jr,

    I tried to help Cindy before anyone here knew what was going on with her, so it might be a little more personal for me when some scum sucking piece of human feces makes godless comments like that about a fine lady, as we know Cindy was.

    I won’t tolerate it!!!


    No one expects you to, Troy.

    We just have different ways of coping.

  133. Troy Says:

    From Orly’s site
    Hope and Change = “…no more”

    by DefendUSx May 22, 2009 14:30

    Written by an unknown Pastor’s Wife, and brilliantly said:

    And it came to pass in the Age of Insanity that the people of the land called America , having lost their morals, their work initiative, and their will to defend their liberties, chose as their Supreme Leader that person known as “The One”.

    He emerged from the vapors with a message that had no meaning; but He hypnotized the people telling them, “I am sent to save you. My eligibility, my questionable ethics, my lack of experience, my monstrous ego, and my association with evil doers are of no consequence. For I shall save you with Hope and Change. Go, therefore, and proclaim throughout the land that he who preceded me is evil, that he has defiled the nation, and that all he has built must be destroyed.”

    And the people rejoiced, for even though they knew not what “The One” would do, he had promised that he would bring change, and they proclaimed “Yes We Can”.

    And “The One” said “We live in the greatest country in the world. Help me change everything about it!”

    And the people said, “Hallelujah!! Change is good!”

    Then He said, “We are going to tax the rich fat-cats,”—- And the people said “Sock it to them!” “—- and “Redistribute their wealth.”

    And then He said, “Redistribution of wealth is good for everybody” And the people said, “Show us the money!”

    And Joe the plumber asked, “Are you kidding me? You’re going to steal my money and give it to the deadbeats??”

    And “The One” ridiculed and taunted him, and Joe’s personal records were hacked, publicized, and ridiculed; though no crime could be found.

    One lone reporter asked, “That shouldn’t be, isn’t that Marxist policy?” And she was banished from the kingdom!

    Then a citizen asked, “With no foreign relations experience and having zero military experience or knowledge, how will you deal with radical terrorists?”

    And “The One” said, “Simple. I shall sit with them and talk kindly to them and show them how nice we really are; and they will forget that they ever wanted to kill us all!”

    And the people said, “Hallelujah!! We are safe at last, and we can beat our weapons into free cars for the people!”

    Then “The One” said, “I shall give 95% of you lower taxes.” And one, lone voice said, “But 40% of us don’t pay ANY taxes.” So “The One” said, “Then I shall give you some of the taxes the fat-cats pay!” And the people said, “Hallelujah!! Show us the money!”

    Then “The One” said, “I shall tax your Capital Gains when you sell your homes!” And the people yawned and the already slumping housing market fully collapsed.

    And He said, “I shall mandate employer-funded health care for EVERY worker and raise the minimum wage, and lower the white collar wage. And I shall also give every person unlimited healthcare and medicine and even transportation to the free clinics.” And the people said, “Give me some of that!”

    Then he said, “I shall penalize employers who ship jobs overseas.” And the people said, “Where’s my rebate check?”

    Then “The One” said, “I shall bankrupt the coal industry, and perhaps even the oil industry (Cap & Trade/Carbon Tax) and though electricity rates will skyrocket, we shall soon build wind farms and solar power stations and drive green cars that I shall mandate in Detroit!”

    And the people said, “Coal is dirty, coal is evil, no more coal! But we don’t care for that part about higher electric rates.”

    So “The One” said, “Not to worry. If your rebate ($10/week) isn’t enough to cover your extra expenses ($3,000/year), we shall bail you out. Just sign up with ACORN and your troubles are over!” “Only the fat cats will have to pay.”

    Then He said, “Illegal immigrants feel scorned and slighted. Let’s grant them amnesty, Social Security, free education, free lunches, free medical care, bi-lingual signs and guaranteed housing…” And the people said, “Hallelujah!!” And they made him King!

    And so it came to pass that employers, facing spiraling costs and ever-higher taxes, raised their prices and laid off workers; though they sold much less of their products. Others simply gave up and went out of business, and the economy sank like unto a rock dropped from a cliff. The banking industry was destroyed. Manufacturing slowed to a crawl. And more of the people were without a means of support.

    So “The One” again blamed the prior administration, extended unemployment benefits to a year, bailed out his favorite banks, and then took over the banks and auto industries.

    “The One” said, “I am the “The One” – The Messiah – and I’m here to save you! We shall just print more money so the government will have enough!” “Surely one trillion dollars will make everyone happy.” And immediately the Fed complied and the money presses roared.

    And China reconsidered their one trillion dollars of loans to the US, and threatened to call in their debts.

    Other foreign trading partners said unto “The One”, “Wait a minute. Your dollar is not worth a pile of camel dung! You will have to pay more.. for everything.. as your dollar becomes worth less.”

    And the people said, “Wait a minute.. That is unfair!!”

    And the world said, “Neither are these other idiotic programs you have embraced. Lo, you have become a Socialist state and a second-rate power. What factories are not owned by your government are owned by us. Now you shall play by our rules!”

    And “The One” said “Americans are arrogant, divisive, and derisive!” “We will listen.”

    And the people cried out, “Alas, alas!! What have we done?”

    But yea verily, it was too late. The people eventually set upon “The One” and spat upon him and stoned him, and his name was dung. But the once mighty nation was no more; and the once proud people were without sustenance or shelter or hope.

    And the Change that “The One” had given them was as like unto a poison that had destroyed them from within, and like a whirlwind that consumed all that they had built.

    And the people beat their chests in despair and cried out in anguish, “Give us back our nation and our pride and our hope!!”

    But it was too late, and the once-glorious “Home of the Brave and Land of the Free” was no more.


    You may think this is a fairy tale, but it’s not. It’s happening RIGHT NOW,
    everything down to the last couple of lines….

  134. rosettasister Says:


    Submitted on 2009/05/23 at 12:16am

    Actually Rose, I do apologize to you and you only. I don’t agree with some of your views but your approach isn’t full of ignorance and hate that many on the far right express.

    I really do think some far right wingnuts hate this country; They are openly racist but they bash YOU if you happen to point it out to em.

    They threaten to attack my leaders (violently) ; They call the Obamas , including their children every name in the book – make fun of how they look. People like Orly Taitz talk about bringing up a Civilian army to attack my country – which is SEDITION. ., I’ve even heard people on the far right talk about BURNING books that tend to go against their world view (evolution related for example)

    These same people look at folks like Ann Coulter as a role model and spout that type of venom at anyone who disagrees with them.

    So that’s just a little taste of where my hate comes from. I hate this side of America. They hate me. I consider them Enemies….

    (Okay, Hal. But I don’t think it’s ever okay to hate. It just eats away at your soul.)

    As can be seen, some here don’t approve of me publishing your comments.

    I recently heard a man of the cloth, the one who spoke at Obama’s inauguration, he said the “Our Father.”

    Anyway, he spoke of who Jesus would associate himself with if he were alive today.

    As you know, the company Jesus kept didn’t meet the approval of many.

    One of the posters here, Tenacity, has spoken of this place being a ministry.

    I hope we can minister to each other here.

  135. rosettasister Says:

    New Thread:

  136. jrinNC Says:

    So true – and I know you already referenced the Lame Cherry post, but I could not resisted quoting from it – “This is a grave people of America which the majority of dim nuts voted for and which Obama and his benefactors have buried an alive America into to destroy her. … mission is accomplished. …but it is finished.”

    Abraham Lincoln once said “America will only be destroyed from within.” That is exactly what IS happening.

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