Jen Chapin — America’s Songstress


jen chapin


He awakes
and puts his pride into his pockets
and decides to walk into the day
He does his strange dances
for strangers he meets along the way
sometimes it sets him free to be his own imagining
a thing no small town would allow
sometimes it leaves him stumbling on the street
he takes an empty bow

I live in a city that has no past
I live in a city where dreams fade fast
I live in an over ripe fruit
where passions call out and then fall mute
where sweetness struggles to be heard
where shame can die without a word

purpose paints her face for her race
through the smoke of hidden holes and greasy fires
She has no breath to waste on the taste
of knowing other people’s desires
it seems there is no fear in her
a conspirator with the arrogance of brick and steel
too many people to wonder about
she’s off to make another deal

I live in a city where stories are cast
I live in a city where illusion grows vast
I live on an island so bold
its fiction captures us in its hold
its voices somehow sing the same song
with furtive words we sing along
and there’s a man whose face is a pile of brittle wood
and his smile just needs one spark
to set it aflame

and there’s a woman who walks with her boy bandaged up
her face is a cup holding all his hurts
and I see a puffed up man in a three-piece pout
not a doubt in his mind that the city is his
but what if all these faces were to welcome us in?
what a place this would be what a place to live in


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From Irishblend

79 Responses to “Jen Chapin — America’s Songstress”

  1. rosettasister Says:

  2. rosettasister Says:

    A SONG FOR MY FATHER will be available exclusively through iTunes in time for Father’s Day care of 429 Records on June 2nd.

    Track listing:
    1. “Evil Ways” – Salvador Santana, son of Carlos Santana
    2. “Travelin’ Man” – Matthew and Gunnar Nelson, sons of Ricky Nelson
    3. “Lover’s Cross” – A.J. Croce, son of Jim Croce
    4. “Cat’s in the Cradle” – Jen Chapin, daughter of Harry Chapin
    5. “Midnight Rider” – Devon Allman’s Honeytribe, son of Gregg Allman
    6. “Up on the Roof” – Lousie Goffin, daughter of Gerry Goffin and Carole King
    7. “Bartender’s Blues” – Ben Taylor, son of James Taylor
    8. “Soul Shake Down Party” – Ky-mani Marley, son of Bob Marley
    9. “Bird on a Wire” – Adam Cohen, son of Leonard Cohen
    10. “Yellow Moon” – Ivan Neville, son of Aaron Neville
    11. “Warmth of the Sun” – Carnie & Wendy Wilson, daughters of Brian Wilson
    12. “Got a Feeling” – Chynna Phillips, daughter of John Phillips
    13. “Run to Me” – Spencer Gibb & 54 Seconds, son of Robin Gibb
    14. “Coming In to Los Angeles” – Sarah Lee Guthrie, daughter of Arlo Guthrie

  3. rosettasister Says:

    BTW, some comments have been added at bottom of this post.

    Just letting you know.

    Good night, good people!

  4. j.b. Says:

    j.b. Says:

    May 17, 2009 at 5:40 am
    I’m not Lisa Liberi. I’m Lisa Ostella. You posted who I was in your own pasting on this thread. Liberi works for Phil Berg. I was Orly Taitz’s webmaster

    And this is her website:


    And the last I checked there were (2) Lisa Liberi and DrOrly maybe got them mixed up?

    Just asking!


    THIS IS ORLY’S WEBSITE! The one posted earlier by Lisa Whomever is the one SHE hijacked from ORLY, as her webmaster!

    Just sayin’.

  5. j.b. Says:
    Oh really?

    Jen Chapin is lovely(btw)!

  6. j.b. Says:

    Oh, yeah, he said it. You go Victor, wit-cho fine self!

    John Lennon said it best; Imagine.

  7. ryansgrammy Says:

    From repubx, this was a satirical letter written to bo/bs.!.aspx

  8. KoolAid_Free_Lexi Says:

    Allen Keyes was arrested at ND Friday.

    Father Norman and others arrest too for protesting ND’s choice to honor BO.

    Scroll down and you’ll see Amb. Keyes in cuffs.

  9. CJ Says:

    Re a post on the previous thread dealing with UFO subject. Been announced that the History channel(I think it was them) on May 25th has some sort of big deal programming and world shattering announcement. Seculationhas UFO subject as the reason but on one knows for sure what they are coming out with. Obama was mentioned too. Hey, maybe he’s a space alien and that’s why there’s no BC! Also, Ed Mitchell ex astronaut has been trying to get this subject front and center for awhile. He says there are definitely extraterrestial visitations to our planet. Hope I got the dates and names correct here as I am going from memory and I never trust mine too far, lol.

  10. CJ Says:

    ok, should be “but no one”. sorry.

  11. rosettasister Says:

    Good morning, America! How are you on this lazy Sunday morning?!


  12. rosettasister Says:

    j.b. Says:
    May 17, 2009 at 5:41 am

    That’s what I meant, j.b.

    This is Lisa Ostella’s website:

  13. rosettasister Says:

    Here’s another link for grammy’s post above:


    By Rob Lamb

  14. rosettasister Says:

    CJ Says:
    May 17, 2009 at 2:32 pm

    Obama was mentioned too. Hey, maybe he’s a space alien and that’s why there’s no BC!


    LOL! Thanks for the info, CJ!

  15. rosettasister Says:

    Notre Dame honors Obama, dishonors all that is good – PROTEST LIVE THREAD, May 17, 2009

  16. rosettasister Says:

    Live video feed of the Notre Dame protest

  17. rosettasister Says:

    ‘Stunned’ over child porn case

    Ex-leader of Young Democrats sentenced after long investigation

  18. rosettasister Says:

    I needed a little humor this morning, so of course I checked out the latest from Dummie Funnies!

    DUmmie FUnnies 05-13-09 (Leftwing Blogosphere Goes NUts Over Obama Photo Release Reversal)

    (Dem on Dem – Watch out!)


    absolutely f*cking disgusting

    f*ck you, you stinking fake “consitutional scholar” and war criminal.

    I want my campaign contributions back.

    I will never vote for that f*cking fraud again.

    From now on, when that charlatan is on the tube, I will do what I did with * and the rest of the monsters–reach for the remote as quickly as I can. I will not believe anything that comes out of his mouth.

    He sold us out to the banksters, he’s selling us out to the insurance fraudsters, he’s covering up war crimes, he’s got his own useless Vietnam going in Afghanistan, he’s french-kissing republican butt and using “lack of bipartisanship” as an excuse for ignoring the will of We The People.

    oh, but everything’s aok, because he’s a “superhuman chess player” who has “secret moves” we mortals “can’t understand.” He’s “eloquent.”

    He’s all about “change.” He has a “D” after his name doncha know.

    adios, ** (whose name I will not say again)

    and kick me off this board, too, because I’m done with the f*cking democrats–with very few exceptions, they are all stinking scum


    [The One has become The Nameless for this DUmmie.]

    (That’s what happens when you’re the president, you have to act presidential!)

  19. ryansgrammy Says:

    As always — TALK IS CHEAP! Wait until the truth comes out about these frauds and people realize they were duped.

  20. rosettasister Says:

    Bait and Switch!

    This is a tad long, but please take the time to read.

    Many consider this the single most important issue of our time.

    Most of you know I’m a centrist Dem. I’m not a fool, I know something has to be done about health care.

    But if we go down this “public” insurance option road, there will be no turning back, people!


    CQ Transcript: Sen. McConnell and Richard McBrien of Notre Dame on ‘Fox News Sunday’

    WALLACE: Yesterday, President Obama’s former campaign manager, David Plouffe, sent an e-mail to supporters that I want to put up called “Swiftboating Health Care,” that says opponents are pumping millions into deceptive T.V. ads to, quote, “torpedo health care reforms before it sees the light of day by scaring the public and distorting the president’s approach.”

    Senator, are we headed for another battle like the one over “Hillarycare” in 1994?

    MCCONNELL: Well, health care is about 16 percent of our economy. It is a big issue. It’s extremely important to everyone. All of us care about our own health. We know that health care needs to be made better in this country. There are changes that are needed.

    As to whether or not we have a huge fight over this or come together, I think it will depend entirely on what the administration tries to do.

    If they want to have a government plan that puts the government between you and your doctor, if they want to establish some kind of national rationing board that basically denies care and delays care, then I think we’ll have a huge debate.

    On the other hand, there are a whole — a big, serious debate of differences. On the other hand, there are a whole lot of other things that both sides want to get at — the problem of the uninsured, for example. I think everybody knows that we need to make progress on that.

    So I think prejudging exactly how big a fight this is will depend upon what they try to do.

    WALLACE: Well, let me ask you about what seems to be part of their plan, although I think we’d both agree that it’s not very specific at this point. The president says that he wants a public health insurance option…

    MCCONNELL: Yeah. WALLACE: … to compete against private insurance options. Is there any public plan, as just one of a series of — on the menu, that you could support?

    MCCONNELL: Well, that would mean a government plan that would inevitably put the government between you and your doctor, and there would be no more private insurance.

    WALLACE: Why?

    MCCONNELL: Because the private insurance people will not be able to compete with a government option.

    I think the vast majority of Republicans and a number of Democrats will not support a government plan. I think that is exactly what we ought to avoid doing.

    I think the president would be wise to put that aside and see if we can’t come together on a whole lot of other issues that still avoid having a European-type single-payer system.


    WALLACE: Well, just to press the point, Senator Schumer, a Democrat, says, “Look, you can put regulations in that would not allow the public plan to have an unfair advantage.” It would have to be the same regulations, it would have to pay the same rates. Or maybe you don’t have a single government federal plan, but you have state plans which wouldn’t have this huge economy of scale.

    Is there any provision there that you see where you say, “Yeah, as a series of options, I could accept a government plan?”

    MCCONNELL: Now, that’s a bait and switch. What he — what he really wants to do is create a government plan, and we all know where that leads. None of the private plans will be able to compete, and you’ll soon have a single-payer European-type system. They may call it something else, but that’s the game plan.


    WALLACE: Now, there has been talk — and again, this is not something they’re necessarily going to do, but they have passed a provision that would allow the health care plan to be passed under what’s called reconciliation.

    I don’t want to get too far into the weeds, but very briefly, that’s a budget plan that allows it to be passed by a simple majority, not by the super majority of 60 votes. Is that a nuclear option if they do that?

    MCCONNELL: Well, I mean, they have that — they have that option.

    That’s the good news for them. They could pass it with a simple majority, as you suggest.

    The bad news is they’re going to have to pay for it. And they’re beginning to look at all the taxes they’d have to raise to raise the $600 billion or so to pay for this.

    WALLACE: You’re saying if they pass under reconciliation, they can’t just pass the plan, they also, because it’s a budget plan…

    MCCONNELL: They have to pay for it, which means they’re going to have massive tax increases across the board on a whole lot of people, and a lot of different entities are going to be affected by this, and so

    Americans are going to be looking and seeing how their taxes are going up to supply the revenue for a government-operated plan. I don’t think that’s a good path to take.

  21. rosettasister Says:

    Nancy-Ann DeParle, Director of the White House Office of Health Reform, talks about the Massachusetts model on April 15, 2009. Asked about long term viability, she says there are “game changers” which will make solvency of the proposed “public option” a reality.

    Massachusetts State Senator James Eldridge, speaking on Capitol Hill February 25, 2009, is a single-payer advocate who is intimately familiar with the Massachusetts law. He says promised savings have not materialized in Mass. In fact the cost of care has gone up for consumers and businesses. He recommends the Mass. model not be replicated on a national scale.

    Nancy-Ann DeParle, Director of the White House Office of Health Reform, responds to a reporter’s question about long waits seen in the Massachusetts. The universal care/public option model in Massachusetts is being looked at by many as a model for national reform.

  22. rosettasister Says:

    I think the individual who posted these (2) videos was trying to make the case for a single-payer system, suggesting the “public” option doesn’t work.

    No, the “public” option will not work and will inevitably lead to single-payer.

    Just say NO to single-payer!

    Just say NO to “public” option!

    Option 4 Please!

  23. rosettasister Says:

    More Bait and Switch!

    Baucus closes door on single-payer in national health care debate

    Though Baucus refuses to include single-payer advocates in the heath care reform hearings, he said he cares about their ideas and is listening.

    “In fact, I’m meeting with advocates of the single-pay system. I have in Washington, and I’m in Montana right now (and) will soon be meeting with them in Montana,” Baucus said Friday.

    He also is considering the idea of offering a publicly run insurance plan that would compete with private plans.

    “We have a public option on the table,” Baucus said. “It’s one of the so-called coverage options, and it’s similar to single-pay and that’s being discussed, that’s being debated.”

  24. Debby4 Says:

    This a video spoof of the White House Correspondent’s Dinner posted on HotAir. Michelle gets raked a bit (too much) but Larry S would feel justified in the last jabs (no pun intended).

  25. j.b. Says:

    Add to this, the mere thought, that they want “something” passed before they go on vacation in August is
    a s t o n i s h i n g!
    “They” don’t know what the hell they’re doing!!! The fact that “they” want “something” in the works is just plain and simply, IRRESPONSIBLE!

    Don’t forget that the number Barry always uses for the uninsured, INCLUDES ILLEGALS! Shame on all of them.

  26. rosettasister Says:

    Debby4 Says:
    May 17, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    Thanks, Debby!

    Only first posts are moderated, so you should be able to post at will now.


  27. rosettasister Says:

    I wonder what this is all about:


    Chris Strunk Says:
    May 17, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    On the principle of the last man [with] standing the QW in Washington DC still is contemplated within two weeks. Stay tuned.

    From: “Christopher Strunk” View contact detailsTo:

    As you like, everything is a matter of public record anyway. I file my petitions with the government, anything I say privately has been said publicly in the proper forum.


    — On Sat, 5/16/09, wrote:

    Subject: Fw: General thinking question:
    To: “; Christopher Strunk”
    Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 11:31 PM

    May I distribute?

    —– Original Message —–
    Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 5:33 PM
    Subject: Re: General thinking question:

    The POPE does only what the Black Pope says and as such the policies which are espoused and proclaimed by the office of the Pope are as follows:

    1. End of sovereignty for the United States and other countries.

    2. End of absolute property rights.

    3. End of all gun rights.

    4. The new international economic Order (world government).

    5. The redistribution of wealth and jobs.

    6. Calls for nations to trust the United Nations.

    7. Total disarmament.

    8. Promote the United Nations as the hope for peace.

    9. Promote UNESCO, the deadly educational and cultural arm of the United Nations.

    10. Promote interdependence.

    11. Support sanctions honoring Father Pierre Teilhard de Chardin-the New Age Humanist Priest.

    12. Support the belief that the economic principle of traditional Christian or Catholic social

    doctrine is the economic principle of communism.

    13. Promote the Pope as the acting go-between for the United States and the Soviet Union .

    the battle of choice versus life is a Jesuit Hegelian device.

    listen to my radio interview:

    — On Sat, 5/16/09, wrote:

    Subject: General thinking question:
    To: “; Christopher Strunk”
    Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 4:27 PM

    General thinking question:
    How does the catholic church/Jesuits “win” by backing pro-choice officials (Patterson, Dems, etc.)?


    The American Gandhi in re Fw: Show 50: Bob Schulz – We the People Foundation – Part 1 – Capital Outsider
    To: one***
    Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 1:06 PM

    As per our conversation last evening, the question of being proactive, nonviolent and have a critical mass movement as both Gandhi and Schulz espouse is first subject to the level of tyranny you are up against. For the same reason that Gandhi got the hell out of South Africa where the power there was about to eat his liver, he went to British rules India where they would first use salt before eating his liver. The Jesuit role then and now needs some articulation.

    I am an associate of Bob, more than just a friend in our endeavor, and that I have co-equality with him in various matters which believe me is hard to accomplish; but nevertheless, am as sovereign as he is.

    The attached Part 1 presentation of his effort is laudable and is vintage Schulz. I am putting the edge to his call for a second Peoples Congress by exposing the Jesuit influence for which at Xavier he experienced when he got his Masters degree.

    That said, our effort is what will produce the mass movement for which he speaks.


    — On Sun, 5/17/09, Bill Van Allen wrote:

    From: Bill Van Allen
    Subject: Show 50: Bob Schulz – We the People Foundation – Part 1 – Capital Outsider
    To: “Richard Winger”
    Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 9:25 AM

  28. rosettasister Says:

  29. rosettasister Says:

  30. j.b. Says:

    rosettasister Says:

    May 17, 2009 at 9:37 pm
    I wonder what this is all about:


    I gots no idea……………..

    Hey, how did Ten’s show go the other night? I was not able to listen. 😦

  31. igaveup Says:

    good ole DUmmies, can’t stop using the “f” word during posts

  32. rosettasister Says:

    j.b. Says:
    May 17, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    Hey, how did Ten’s show go the other night? I was not able to listen. 😦


    Mostly it was a hoot, but I found I’m ignorant about grand juries and how all that works.

    You can listen here:

    Tenacity from Thursday

  33. rosettasister Says:

    igaveup Says:
    May 17, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    good ole DUmmies, can’t stop using the “f” word during posts


    True, true.

    We’ve been known to drop a few “f” bombs around here, too!

    Spattered with a few WTFs

  34. rosettasister Says:

    Pakistan’s Musharraf says Obama ‘on the right track’

    Musharraf cautioned against a quick withdrawal from Iraq.

    “I would like to warn the people of the U.S. and President Obama the situation is not that simple,” he said, citing issues including the Sunni and Shiite divide, the Turks versus the Kurds in northern Iraq, Shiite links with Iran, and the effect that withdrawal could have on Lebanon and the Gulf region.

    Musharraf urged the U.S. to “analyze very deliberately and not take any action just for the sake of semantics.”

    He said “real leadership” is when “you don’t flow with public opinion … you change public opinion.”

    On the subject of Obama’s plans for Afghanistan, Musharraf mused about whether Bush would have increased forces there, as well. “I don’t see much change, frankly,” he said. “I’m trying to observe what is the change here.”

    But Obama’s plans to sink more money into the war in Afghanistan and to talk with the Taliban are the right moves, Musharraf said. “I think he’s on the right track.”

    Obama has also pressed for $7.5 billion in aid to Pakistan over five years, reflected in aid packages introduced by the House and Senate foreign policy panels.

    Musharraf, who came to power in a 1999 coup and resigned under impeachment pressure in 2008, left the door open to returning to office someday.

    Musharraf also brushed off any chatter that linked him to the assassination of former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto. “I would undermine myself if I was even to reply to any accusation that I was involved,” he said.

    “I warned her… yes, indeed, there was a threat,” he said. “I told her; I told her personally.”

  35. rosettasister Says:

    Here’s a clip from Musharraf with Zakaria.

  36. rosettasister Says:

    Waziristan next, says Zardari

    Pakistan is to extend its war on the Taliban beyond Swat into the fiercely independent tribal areas bordering Afghanistan where Osama bin Laden and the al Qaeda leadership are believed to be hiding.–bi-08

    The army is planning to open new fronts in Waziristan and Darra Adamkhel. Waziristan is the headquarters of the militant Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan, led by Baitullah Mehsud, who has been named as the mastermind behind the assassination of the former prime minister, Benazir Bhutto.

    Mr Zardari appealed for $1 billion in aid for refugees. ‘If we are to win the hearts and minds of these people we need to be able to relocate them back into civil society, rebuild their houses and give them interest-free loans to restart their businesses,’ he said.

    ‘If we don’t they will turn against the government and we will lose the impetus we’ve managed to create in the country against the Taliban.’

    The Taliban were said to be holding out in Sultanwas, a mountainous valley in Buner. All access to Swat, where the army said a house-to-house search was under way for Taliban leaders in Mingora, was banned.

    Mr Zardari insisted that the army was committed to defeating the Taliban. ‘I think the casualties speak for that, the displacement speaks for that,’ he said.

    He claimed that officers sympathetic to the militants had been purged. ‘I’m confident the army perceives the Taliban as much of a national threat as we do.’

    He added: ‘You cannot fight this war only on the battle (field). You also have to fight it on the economic front — you have to offer something to the youth.’

  37. igaveup Says:

    i haven’t logged on to DUmmy land in a while. afraid of a “CTD” (computer transmitted disease) along with my lack of disinfectant after “DUmpsterdiving”

  38. j.b. Says:

    Well now, isn’t this just great? I wonder if they’ll speak English at this college? ha.

  39. j.b. Says:
    There you go again. Oh that Joe!

  40. j.b. Says:

    Great read! Thanks. Love how he calls him by his real name.

  41. rosettasister Says:

    Know Your Enemy

    Baitullah Mehsud

    Biography for Baitullah Mehsud

    Images: (Don’t know if these are accurate)

    I don’t know if this is Mehsud or not.

    baitullah mehsud.. mulla umer taliban ANP awami national party asfandyaar wali khan mohajir mqm altaf hussain punjabi nawaz sharif imran khan PTI benazir zardari bhutto sindhi pakistan terrorist..


    ANP taliban baitullah mehsud

  42. rosettasister Says:

    For the uninitiated:

  43. CJ Says:

    Re that new muslim college: Wonder if they will award an honrary degree to one of our leaders who doesn’t believe in shariah law and is a champion of women’s rights, like maybe a HRC or Sarah Palin? I guess I won’t hold my breath on that one. Probably need this college because there are so many muslim/islamic refugees being imported to the USA by the OB administration. We probably will have to pay their tuitions too. The enemies may be with in our borders and nobody is reacting to it. Not that I’m necessarily saying a new college is a bad thing. Only the priciples they hold.

  44. CJ Says:

    Wow spelling errors galore. Fingers not working this morning. Sorry!

  45. CJ Says:

    Here’s a fun little article I just got via email. Sorry no link so I’m not sure how true it may be:


    Windfall Tax on Retirement Income

    Adding a tax to your retirement is simply another way of saying to the American people, you’re so darn stupid that we’re going to keep doing this until we drain every cent from you. That’s what the Speaker of the House is saying. Read below……………

    Nancy Pelosi wants a Windfall Tax on Retirement Income. In other words tax what you have made by investing toward your retirement. This woman is a nut case! You aren’t going to believe this.

    Madam speaker Nancy Pelosi wants to put a Windfall Tax on all stock market profits (including Retirement fund, 401K and Mutual Funds! Alas, it is true – all to help the 12 Million Illegal Immigrants and other unemployed Minorities!

    This woman is frightening.
    She quotes…’ We need to work toward the goal of equalizing income, (didn’t Marx say something like this?), in our country and at the same time limiting the amount the rich can invest.’ (I am not rich, are you?)

    When asked how these new tax dollars would be spent, she replied:
    ‘We need to raise the standard of living of our poor, unemployed and minorities. For example, we have an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in our country who need our help along with millions of unemployed minorities. Stock market windfall profits taxes could go a long way to guarantee these people the standard of living they would like to have as ‘Americans’.’
    (Read that quote again and again and let it sink in.) ‘Lower your retirement, give it to others who have not worked as you have for it’.

    Send it on to your friends. I just did!! This lady is out of her mind and she is the speaker of the house

  46. rosettasister Says:

    Good morning, CJ!

    Far be it from me to have anything to say in Pelosi’s defense, but I’m pretty sure PolitiFact is reputable.

    Bogus e-mail is wrong about Pelosi and ‘windfall profits’ from stocks

    Having said that,

  47. rosettasister Says:

    This says more about the state of American Catholicism than it does about Barack Obama.

    Bill Bennett said this morning that we need Catholic missionaries from Africa to come to America and minister to us.

    He may be right.

  48. NEConservative Says:

    We all knew this a long time ago:

  49. rosettasister Says:

    Don’t expect silence from people who know the truth

    By: Hugh Hewitt–45286727.html


    Cheney owns a resume and experience that have prepared him for another key role in his long and dedicated career of selfless public service –

    that of loyal opposition to a national security policy that seems dangerously naive and powered by an ideology that simply will not admit that

    there are enemies of the United States who scheme for its demise out of pure hatred and religious fanaticism with which there can be no negotiation or compromise.

    Cheney scares the appeasers of the new millennium, even as Churchill scared the appeasers of the ’30s, and for the same reason.

    Cheney knows the enemy, and he knows the new government isn’t taking that enemy seriously.

    Cheney is pushing for seriousness in the war that is still underway, whether the issue is closing Gitmo, the conduct of interrogation, or the maintenance and disposition of our forces.

    Every time he speaks, millions will listen closely even as the hundreds within the Beltway scowl.

    Long may he comment.

  50. rosettasister Says:

    Found at Hugh Hewitt

    Obama’s Notre Dame Speech: Courageously Missing the Point

    What of abortion?

    About abortion, the President “bravely” said nothing at all to defend his view that it should be legal to take the life of a child in the third trimester or that experimentation on humans (or potential humans) is licit.

    He said nothing at all to show why the Catholic papacy and bishops are wrong to say that support for abortion is a sin so grave that it overshadows other good deeds in politics.

    In short, Notre Dame and the President talked about what they agreed on and ignored their differences.

    Any pretense that the President was brought to the campus to give all points of view is laughable.

    President Obama did not give his point of view, but was cheered for “bravely” having it by a school dedicated to the Blessed Virgin Mary.

    Perhaps well-intentioned academics are so skilled at dialogue that they are apt to ignore actions.

    While President Obama invites Notre Dame to talk, he governs outside of the culture of life.

  51. rosettasister Says:

    Also called the “public” option

    The “Government Option”: “Single Payer” By Another Name

    Hugh Hewitt


    If the “government option” emerges from the high-stakes negotiations under way right now, it will be the “reform” that swallows the entire system.

    It is no secret that large companies want to dump the responsibility for providing health insurance to their employees.

    The costs are high and going higher because American workers want the best health care available.

    Unions demand it in negotiations, and businesses competing for top drawer talent must offer health plans that appeal to the cream of the workforce, plans which are then available to all levels of the employee network.

    I have written before and repeat again:

    The country is on the verge of an enormous, culture-changing shift when it comes to the most basic of its expectations with regards to medicine, and yet this potential radical shift is almost wholly unreported on in the MSM in the sort of detail that would allow for an informed debate.

    Thus is the old media working hand-in-hand with the Congressional left to completely rewrite the rules of healthcare.

    Democrats in the House are surely going to face retribution for their breach of faith with their constituents once they experience the reality of single-payer, but that payback is 18 months away.

    The “government option,” by contrast, is on the fast track for passage by early autumn.

    The GOP has to take up the cause of patient choice and genuine reform, and it has to do so soon.

  52. rosettasister Says:

    Larry Kudlow is clearly worried — reject Mr. Obama’s massive government assault.

    KUDLOW: A ‘cure’ that will worsen our ills

    Does anybody believe Mr. Obama’s new “public” health-insurance plan isn’t really a bridge to single-payer government-run health care?

    Does anyone think this plan won’t produce a government gatekeeper that will allocate health services and control prices and therefore crowd out the private-insurance, doctor-hospital system?

    The Obama Democrats are determined to force through a state-run system that will bankrupt the country.

    I’m not somebody who obsesses about the national debt or deficit.

    But I have to admit, today’s spending-and-borrowing is blowing my mind.

    As a share of gross domestic product, we’re looking at double-digit deficits as far as the eye can see.

    During the next 10 years, the Congressional Budget Office predicts federal debt in the hands of the public will absorb 80 percent of gross domestic product.

    And that doesn’t include the real cost of state-run health care.


    Other than the temporary financial conditions surrounding World War II, we’ve never seen anything like this.


    The president’s grandiose government-takeover-and-control strategies will make things worse and worse – that is, unless members of that tiny band known as the Republican Party can stand on their hind legs and just say no.

    The Republicans must come up with some pro-competition, free enterprise alternatives for health, energy, education, taxes and trade that will meet the yearning of voter-taxpayers for a return to free enterprise American prosperity and opportunity.

    Free-market competition will lower costs in health care just as it has every place else.

    It also will grow the economy.

    The Republicans must return to this basic conservative principle and reject Mr. Obama’s massive government assault.

  53. rosettasister Says:

    Regina Herzlinger – The Swiss Model?

    Good Luck on Sweeping Health Care Reform Mr. President

    To get an expert’s reaction to the president’s ambitious dream, on Wednesday, May 13, I called economist Regina Herzlinger of Harvard Business School.

    Herzlinger, dubbed the “Godmother” of consumer-driven health care by Money magazine, is widely regarded in Washington and elsewhere for her innovative research in health care and for writing books like her latest, “Who Killed Health Care?” (2007).

    Q: You mentioned the Swiss model. Is that a country Congress should look to as a role model?

    A: Yeah. They have universal coverage. They don’t have rationing, unlike the Brits in the UK. You can get transplants. You can get dialyzed.

    People who are sick get good health care in Switzerland and they spend 40 percent less as a percentage of GDP than we do. The reason is, the Swiss buy their own health insurance.

    Actually, Switzerland has no Medicare and has no Medicaid.

    Q: Individual Swiss citizens buy health insurance the way we buy car insurance?

    A: Absolutely. In Switzerland, instead of being relegated to a really degrading program like M

    – a lot of doctors won’t see M patients because they get paid terribly for those M patients —

    a poor person gets in effect a voucher equal to the average expenditures of the average Swiss.

    Then she goes and she buys health insurance like everybody else. I think that is a much better system.

    Q: What are the chances that Congress will make things better and not worse?

    A: I believe they are going to go for the Swiss system, which would be better.

    The recession has made so many people nervous about their health insurance that it seems to me, rightly or wrongly, that they really want universal coverage.

    The only way to do it is the automobile insurance-Swiss model.

    The Swiss model is a real model. It’s not some BS, theoretical “We’ll promote health! We’ll have IT, blah, blah, blah.” This country has been doing it since 1996.

    It’s a very stable and not terribly wacko country. It works there. It works in very precise ways. Everybody has universal coverage. The care is great; 40 percent less cost.

    So I think that’s where we are going to go. It’s just going to take a while for us to get there.

    Q: Will Obama get his wish for a health care plan by the year’s end?

    A: That I can’t tell you. I’m really Alice in Wonderland when it comes to the machinations of Congress.

    But since he has put his prestige on the line and the American people do like him, that certainly puts a lot of impetus on Congress to get on with it.

    So I think it’s more likely to happen than not. Of course, you know, when we left Vietnam, we declared victory. So there are many ways he can declare victory.

    Something else that I believe will happen, and which I think is very important, is the Congress will pass a Healthcare Transparency Act,

    so that consumers will know how good their doctors are, how good their hospitals are, how good their insurance plans are, not only in terms of consumer satisfaction but in terms of clinical measures;

    like how many people have died within 30 days when this doctor operated on them;

    how many people wait on the line for 30 minutes when they called to complain with this health insurance company, and so on.

    I believe we are going to get that and I couldn’t be happier. I’ve been lobbying for that in my own way for about 12 years.

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    Know Your Enemy

    “Baitullah Mehsud”

    Taliban Leader Threatens D.C. 3/31/2009

    The leader of the Pakistani Taliban threatens to carry out a terrorist attack on Washington, D.C. Fox News’s Jonathan Hunt reports from New York.


  58. rosettasister Says:

    APC: Political leadership resolves to unite nation against terrorism

    Gilani said those who were trying to blackmail the state institutions in the guise of imposing Sharia, had been revealed before the nation.

    “We are determined to defeat every conspiracy being hatched in the name of Islam,” he said.

    Prime Minister also dispelled the impression that Pakistan’s nuclear assets would fall prey to militants.

    He said Pakistan’s nuclear assets were safe and any one daring to compromise these would be dealt with strictly.

  59. rosettasister Says:

    Sufi Muhammad Dead?

    Taliban paid about $30,000 for suicide attacks, says Malik

    Referring to the military operation in the Swat Valley, he said: “Swat is a seven-year-old issue and would take time to solve.”

    “We have inherited these problems. The mines, missiles and weapons (of the Taliban) have not been acquired in one day,” he added.

    “The operation was not carried out in haste. I have repeatedly been saying that the operation was unavoidable because the Taliban were abducting government officials. They were trying to make a state within a state. They violated peace deal many times,” Malik said.

    Replying to a question from a reporter, he said he didn’t know whether the Pakistani Taliban chief Sufi Muhammad was dead.

    More than 1,000 militants have been killed in the operation so far, the Online news agency said Monday citing Malik.

  60. rosettasister Says:

    Know Your Enemy – Seymour Hersh

    He needs to be stopped, because some Pakistanis will believe this crap!


    ‘US special squad killed Benazir’

  61. rosettasister Says:

    New York Times Finally Admits It Spiked Obama/ACORN Corruption Story

  62. NEConservative Says:

    Pro-Life video:
    ‘No, Mr. President’

  63. rosettasister Says:

    Godspeed, Gentle People!

    Spacewalkers Finish Hubble Insulation Work

  64. rosettasister Says:

    Wayne Root on Two-Party Socialism and Obama

    The 2008 Libertarian Party nominee for Vice President, Wayne Root is an outspoken critic of both parties.

    Root explains why he’s a former Republican, why Obama’s presidency is an unparallelled attack on our liberties, and how his 1983 Columbia classmate has been concealing his past from us.

    One more major public figure says to Obama…. show us the Birth Certificate, already!

  65. NEConservative Says:

    Response to Obummer at ND

    The blowback of Notre Dame

    Posted: May 18, 2009
    1:00 am Eastern

    © 2009

    As if to rub salt in the wound opened by Notre Dame’s invitation to deliver the commencement address and receive an honorary degree yesterday, Barack Obama lectured Catholics about abortion.

    He said it’s time for common ground on the issue and an approach to the life-and-death debate with “open hearts, open minds and fair-minded words.”

    I suppose that’s understandable.

    If I were presiding over a public policy that called for the murder of unborn babies for any reason or no reason at all, that provided mandatory public funding of those procedures both domestically and in foreign countries, that required doctors and nurses to perform abortions even if they were conscientiously opposed, that permitted experimentations on living human embryos, that promoted even partial-birth abortions outside the womb and that called for the extermination of infants who somehow defied all the odds and managed to survive efforts to kill them before birth, I guess I would want to frame the debate in such a way as to diminish the hideous monstrousness of my morally indefensible position.

    He doesn’t really want people who recognize what abortion is to approach the debate with “open hearts.” He wants us to harden our hearts.

    We won’t do that.

    The only hearts and minds being opened in this debate and the hearts and minds of little innocents – sliced open surgically in the most barbaric fashion because of activist judges exceeding their authority and morally bankrupt politicians like Obama and his cohorts in the Congress.

    These are the most “fair-minded words” I can muster to describe Obama’s efforts at soft-pedaling his own bloody and extremist policies on abortion.

    Obama said: “Each side will continue to makes its case to the public with passion and conviction. But surely we can do so without reducing those with differing views to caricature.”

    Let me translate this for you.

    “Now that my side in this debate is in control of all the levers of power and is enforcing its will on the other side, it’s time for a nice civil dialogue on abortion.”

    That’s what Obama would like.

    Let me be the first to say, “No way, buster!”

    You want to kill babies? You’re going to have to accept the consequences of righteous moral indignation. You’re going to have to accept being called out for what you are doing. You’re going to have to accept the conviction that comes with the abomination of child sacrifice. You’re going to have to accept being labeled for what you are.

    Obama even acknowledged he knows what this debate is all about – characterizing abortion as a “heart-wrenching” decision for any woman.

    Why is abortion a “heart-wrenching” decision for a mother?

    Because it’s a decision to kill one’s child – materialistic reasons, for reasons of convenience.

    It should be “heart-wrenching” to decide to kill one’s child.

    Obama’s policies are meant to remove the guilt, remove the consequences of irresponsible decisions, remove the issue of right and wrong, remove even the “choice” of those who disagree with him not to participate in any way in the slaughter at the altar of Baal.

    “We must find a way to live together as one human family,” he said in closing.

    That’s quite a statement.

    The man who is carrying out the slaughter of the innocents with the same enthusiasm as Herod and Pharaoh calls for us to find a way to live together as one human family.

    How do we learn to live together as one human family when our offspring are being sacrificed to false gods and man-made religions?

    How do we learn to live together as one human family when it means accepting coercion into active participation in the worst kind of evil perversion?

    How does one live with oneself if it means tolerance of the intolerable?

    No, I won’t play that game.

    No, I won’t play by Obama’s rules.

  66. CJ Says:

    Hi Rose. Thanks for finding that the Pelosi windfall tax on stock profits was a hoax. Thank goodness. I guess I need to hit those sites any time I get an email without a link. I will do my own factchecks from no on and not pos anything I’m not sure of unless I can’t find out the truth.

    Re the ND speech by Obama. He wore the robes with the prayer to the blessed Virgin Mother on them. I’m surprised god didn’t create a conflagration because of the hypocrisy. Could have at least caused them to disintegrate and leave the One naked on the podium. Would have loved to see that. He was a travesty to the origins of that great university. A man on Rush’s show, whose daughter graduated ND yesterday, said the audience response was not that great, especially from alot of the parents attending. Our whole university system has gone into a leftist, socialistic orgy and Obama is now their hero. Good luck with that all you students. I hope you realize the truth before too long and get intellectually back to the reality of life. That’s definitely not what we have in Washington right now. How come all you young anti war, student protesters aren’t going after your leader for upping the war in Afghanistan and Pakistan? Hmmm? Just wondering.

  67. CJ Says:

    Darn my computer keeps droppng letters. Keyboard is messed up.
    “now and post” and excuse the bad grammar.

  68. rosettasister Says:

    CJ Says:
    May 18, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    Could have at least caused them to disintegrate and leave the One naked on the podium. Would have loved to see that.


    I’d pay to see that!

  69. rosettasister Says:

    How come all you young anti war, student protesters aren’t going after your leader for upping the war in Afghanistan and Pakistan? Hmmm?

    Just wondering.


    Funny you should ask, CJ?

    I’ve just returned from a doctor’s appt. where I had a conversation with one of the young ladies who works there.

    She was obviously distressed as her father (a contractor) had just been deployed to Afghanistan (a missile inspector) and both she and her mother were having a hard time dealing with his absence.

    She reluctantly said, well, you know, we broke it so I guess we’re obligated to fix it (that’s lefty code for Obama has to clean up Bush’s mess).

    I just let it slide and put on my lefty speak.

    I said, “You know, this is President Obama’s fight and we have to support him in it.”

    We can’t expect these people to come around to our way of thinking, but some will step up to the plate and do the right thing now.

  70. rosettasister Says:

    Rasmussen says 27% of Americans are out of their gourds.

    By a two-to-one margin (60% to 27%), Americans reject free health care for all if it means changing their own coverage and joining a program administered by the government.

    Re: Out of your gourd

    Used to describe an extreme mental state–as in “You’re out of your gourd” meaning you are crazy or “stoned out of your gourd” meaning extremely intoxicated.

  71. patriotamy Says:

    Just a side note, kind of uplifting in today’s world. Pictures from a parade in Nampa, ID last week.

    Patriotism alive and well in middle America.

  72. rosettasister Says:

    Bad for the Left, Good for America!

    Liberals Fret Over Obama’s Compromises

    Nowhere is the frustration on the left greater than on national security.

    After opening his presidency by promising to ban torture, end secrecy and close Guantanamo, Mr. Obama has found out the complexities of the security environment, said Mr. Graham, whom the White House has consulted on recent moves.

    Spokesman Robert Gibbs said the White House wouldn’t intervene in the recent firings of gay servicemen by the military, despite Mr. Obama’s promise to allow openly gay men and women to serve.

    Last week the president decided to fight in court the release of photos of alleged detainee abuse by the military, and then Friday came the announcement on military commissions.

    “It’s not as clean as that, no matter how desirous you are of absolutes,” Mr. Emanuel said of the expectations on the left.

    Mr. Emanuel conceded a shift on the photos since the White House released Bush-era Justice Department memos detailing arguments for enhanced-interrogation techniques, or torture to many.

    But he said Mr. Obama had been consistent in his support for tribunals, pointing to 2006 legislation that would have kept alive the Bush tribunals but revised their rules to make them consistent with Supreme Court demands for due process.

    Critics such as the American Civil Liberties Union and Amnesty International say the comparison isn’t apt.

    At the time, senators were trying to find some compromise language that would grant more rights to detainees but not provoke a veto from Mr. Bush.

    Now, with Mr. Obama in the Oval Office, no such compromise is necessary, they say.

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  74. rosettasister Says:

    Renminbi — the currency of the People’s Republic of China (PRC)

    Brazil and China eye plan to axe dollar

    In what was interpreted as a sign of Chinese concern about the future of the dollar, the governor of China’s central bank proposed in March that the US dollar be replaced as the world’s de-facto reserve currency.

    In an essay posted on the People’s Bank of China’s website, Zhou Xiaochuan, the central bank’s governor, said the goal would be to create a reserve currency ”that is disconnected from individual nations” and modelled on the International Monetary Fund’s special drawing rights, or SDRs.

    Economists have argued that while the SDR plan is unfeasible now, bilateral deals between Beijing and its trading partners could act as pieces in a jigsaw designed to promote wider international use of the renminbi.

    Any move to make the renminbi more acceptable for international trade, or to help establish it as a regional reserve currency in Asia, could enhance China’s political clout around the world.

  75. jrinNC Says:

    rosettasister Says:
    May 18, 2009 at 11:17 pm


    “Trust in politicians has been shot to pieces,” he said. “The expenses. The extravagance. The excuses.

    This sounds like our government. Wonder how long it will be before someone starts pushing that we need dissolution of our congress and administration.

  76. rosettasister Says:

    Differences over Palestinians, Iran unresolved as Obama meets Netanyahu

    Diplomat in Chief

    Said President Obama:


    He said the U.S. will pursue direct talks following Iranian elections in June.

    “We should have a fairly good sense by the end of the year as to whether they are moving in the right direction and whether the parties involved are making progress and that there’s a good-faith effort to resolve differences” Obama said.

    People in Israel are unusually nervous about Netanyahu’s visit, which comes after eight years of George W. Bush, who is widely considered to have been the best friend the Jewish state has ever had in the White House.


    Leave aside how silly it is that the President seems comfortable with the notion that he might spend the next six months, in addition to the last five, engaging the Iranians with absolutely no sense of whether or not things are “moving in the right direction.”

    Which “parties” is Obama referring to here?

    Direct negotiations by definition involve only two parties.

    Is Obama wondering aloud whether his Secretary of State is going to make a good-faith effort to resolve American differences with Iran?

    Is he wondering whether Dennis Ross is making progress — and will he wait until the end of the year to find out?

  77. KoolAid_Free_Lexi Says:

    I pay dead people…………..

  78. rosettasister Says:

    New Thread:

  79. KoolAid_Free_Lexi Says:

    NEConservative Says:
    May 18, 2009 at 6:53 pm

    Pro-Life video:
    ‘No, Mr. President’


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