Worldview: The AfPak challenge — Gen. David Petraeus makes the case for Obama’s war.

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trudy-rubin

Trudy Rubin

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/currents/20090412_Worldview__The_AfPak_challenge.html

What struck me (Trudy Rubin) most about my conversation with Petraeus was the complexity of the AfPak project he described.

Petraeus, along with his military and civilian bosses and counterparts, must work with Pakistan, where a weak civilian government and conflicted military are flailing at efforts to push militants back. They must avoid making new enemies in either country through air or missile strikes that kill civilians along with militants. (Petraeus is keenly aware of this problem.)

They must coordinate military and civilian reconstruction aid and try to strengthen Afghan and Pakistani governance – so locals will resist the jihadis’ call. And they must try to facilitate behind-the-scenes rapprochement between New Delhi and Islamabad in order to persuade the Pakistani army to focus less on India and more on the Afghan border.

Finally, and key, they must persuade Pakistanis and Afghans that the United States is in this for the long haul. Already, speculation is rampant in both countries that Obama is seeking a speedy exit before 2010 midterm elections. If the Pakistani army believes this, it won’t cut ties with its old Afghan Taliban friends, who, it will assume, will soon be in power.

If such speculation is wrong, Petraeus may be called upon again to help convince the American public of the need to stay the course until the Afghan army gets stronger.

(Oh, the irony of it all!)

And until Pakistan‘s army becomes willing, and able, to fight the enemy within.

He will no doubt keep repeating the mantra he brought up at the end of our talk: “It is important to come back to why we are in Afghanistan. This is the place where sanctuaries for transnational extremists would again be established if the Taliban returned.

“There is a vital national security interest in helping Afghans to get it right in an Afghan context. This is everyone’s interest because the threat has touched so many in the world.”

obama-petraeus

Then Sen. Barack Obama listens as Gen. David H. Petraeus discusses security improvements in Baghdad while giving him and Sens. Jack Reed and Chuck Hagel an aerial tour of the city. (Photo by Staff Sgt. Lorie Jewell/Multi-National Forces Iraq Public Affairs via Getty Images)

Trudy Rubin (trubin@phillynews.com) will be in Afghanistan and Pakistan from Saturday to May 6, and will report regularly at

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/trudy-rubin/

From CongressmanRooney

April 07, 2009

During a House Armed Services Committee hearing Congressman Rooney questions General David Petraeus about the new strategy in Afghanistan.


33 Responses to “Worldview: The AfPak challenge — Gen. David Petraeus makes the case for Obama’s war.”

  1. budgy Says:

    Troy and Ten….the info that you have been posting lately is mind boggling and frightening but it is always better to be informed. Thanks for all the research.

    “Here in America we are descended in blood and in spirit from revolutionists and rebels – men and women who dare to dissent from accepted doctrine. As their heirs, may we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion.” Dwight D. Eisenhower

  2. inspirational1 Says:

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  3. CJ Says:

    Tenacity: Thanks for the response and I’m looking forward to your updates.

  4. Troy Says:

    CJ Says:

    April 13, 2009 at 5:55 pm
    Tenacity: Thanks for the response and I’m looking forward to your updates.
    ******************************************************
    Cj, I think maybe you’re responding to my post, but Tenacity is on this investigation also and we are in contact with each other….I hope to be able to provide more info soon….I am waiting for more info from a contact.

  5. rosettasister Says:

    April 8th, 2009

    Democratic divisions stall U.S. cap-and-trade

    http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/04/08/democratic-divisions-stall-us-cap-and-trade/

    Reconciliation was originally intended to expedite passage of tax and spending bills. It was never intended for other legislation, and the process contains safeguards to prevent it being misused to pass other bills. But the safeguards are flexible. In the past, reconciliation has been used to force through controversial measures that would not otherwise be able to secure the 60 votes needed to stop a filibuster.

    Cap-and-trade could easily have been presented as a budget measure subject to reconciliation because permit sales would raise revenue for the federal government — and those revenues have already been included in the president’s outline budget.

    Alive to this risk, opponents have moved to exempt cap-and- trade from the reconciliation process, ensuring it will still need 60 votes to pass.

    Given the crowded congressional agenda and the competing demands on the president’s time, it will almost certainly be impossible to mount a major lobbying effort and get cap-and- trade enacted in 2009, which puts the effective date of any scheme back until at least 2012 or 2013.

  6. Troy Says:

    Somali pirates welcome US Congressman

  7. rosettasister Says:

    Inhofe Calls Senate-Passed Budget “Irresponsible”

    Congressional Desk

    April 11, 2009

    http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/98125

    Not included in the Senate-passed budget are reconciliation instructions in the budget resolution regarding cap-and-trade legislation. Senator
    Inhofe was pleased to join a clear bi-partisan majority in voting for the Johanns amendment, number 735, which prohibits the use of budget reconciliation for cap-and-trade legislation. The amendment passed the Senate by a vote of 67-31.

    “I was pleased to join an overwhelming bi-partisan majority in opposing the inclusion of reconciliation instructions in the budget resolution. Reconciliation was designed for deficit reduction, not major policy initiatives like climate change, which should be fully debated through regular order in the committees of jurisdiction. Further, use of such procedures for climate legislation rejects the twin goals of transparency and bipartisanship so often mentioned by the Administration.”

  8. Troy Says:

    rosettasister Says:

    April 13, 2009 at 6:41 pm
    April 8th, 2009

    Democratic divisions stall U.S. cap-and-trade

    http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/04/08/democratic-divisions-stall-us-cap-and-trade/
    **********************************************************
    Since the “cap and trade” is their “ace in the hole” to repay the debt of their disasterous spending, it will be passed…Make no mistake about it.

  9. rosettasister Says:

    On the Fast Track

    Healthcare reform is on the table and could be enacted by the end of the year. And reform could come even quicker if the Democrats choose to short-circuit the legislative process by adopting program changes via the budget reconciliation.

    By Dallas Salisbury

    Should HR executives care about budget reconciliation?

    Yes!

    http://www.hreonline.com/HRE/story.jsp?storyId=197615719

    Reconciliation has been known to get finished just before Christmas when contentious issues are part of the process.

    Healthcare reform is surely a contentious issue. As of now, three very contentious proposals have been put forth.

    The first is a proposal for a public-plan option for those without employer-based coverage. It could allow some or all employers to direct their workers to that public plan in lieu of maintaining coverage at the workplace with private carriers of self insurance.

    Second, is a proposal for either pure “pay or play,” allowing the employer to avoid extra payments to the government as long as they provide healthcare coverage, or a modified “pay or play” plan that would require an addition, but lower, payment to the government to fund premium subsides for low-income individuals, children, etc., even when you provide your workers with health insurance.

    Third, is a proposal to tax individuals on some of the value of employer-paid insurance benefits.

  10. rosettasister Says:

    Baucus conceded that reconciliation language in the conference report is probably a done deal.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/12/AR2009041202629_pf.html

    In the Senate, several prominent Democrats, including Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (Mont.), had taken a stand against special budget instructions to protect Obama’s health-care, education and global warming initiatives from a filibuster. Both parties had used the “reconciliation” shortcut in recent years to move contentious bills through a chamber known for parliamentary pitfalls. But Baucus was seeking large bipartisan consensus for health-care reform, and he worried that reconciliation would offend potential GOP allies.

    Emanuel, a former member of the House Budget Committee, saw a way to meet Baucus halfway. Reconciliation instructions could be added but would not take effect until fall, giving Republicans time to show interest in compromise. Also, the language would cover only health care and education. Emanuel concluded that including Obama’s cap-and-trade system to combat climate change “was a bridge too far.” It would ask too much of vulnerable Democrats, given their fears about creating higher consumer electricity costs.

    “We decided we would let the process work, but we wouldn’t hold the process hostage” to Republican obstruction, Emanuel said. House leaders had been considering reconciliation and added the instructions to their budget. Before lawmakers left town last week for a spring recess, even Baucus conceded that reconciliation language in the conference report is probably a done deal.

  11. rosettasister Says:

    I’m angry, too! Hispanics turned their backs on McCain.

    McCain went “over the top” in expressing his anger at Hispanics for voting heavily for Obama.

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/casey/6369534.html

    Over the top?

    According to the National Journal, the senator met March 11 with a group of Hispanic business leaders in the Capitol’s Strom Thurmond Room.

    The Journal quoted several participants as saying McCain went “over the top” in expressing his anger at Hispanics for voting heavily for Obama, despite McCain’s support for immigration reform in the face of his party’s opposition.

    “You people — you people made your choice during the election,” McCain was quoted as saying. One source said “it was almost as if he was saying ‘You’re cut off!’”

    But McCain is likely to work for comprehensive reform.

    Cornyn is, too. He issued a statement this week applauding Obama’s commitment and pledged to work with him.

    But it is a tough issue politically, and from a policy perspective.

    Few expect a bill to be passed this year, and certainly not without tempers igniting again.

  12. rosettasister Says:

    Meet fierce blonde behind Obama eligibility lawsuits

    Soviet Union survivor: President spits in face of every U.S. citizen

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=94377

    Taitz has stepped up her fight, approaching Justice Antonin Scalia during his appearance in Los Angeles and hand-delivering documents to Chief Justice John Roberts at his appearance at the University of Idaho. She also presented Roberts with the WND petition,

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81550

    consisting of 3,300 pages of names – more than 325,000 at the time – of people demanding the Supreme Court hear the Obama eligibility case.

    Taitz updates her Defend Our Freedoms blog

    http://www.repubx.com/

    with information about her cases. Her latest challenge to Obama’s eligibility is a Quo Warranto case submitted to U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, a legal standard that essentially allows citizens to demand on what grounds someone in authority exercises power.

    She has 10 state representatives and about 130 members of the U.S. military signed on as plaintiffs in the action.

  13. rosettasister Says:

    WTF???

    What happened to Dr. Orly Taitz’s Blog? What happened to Dr. Orly Taitz’s websites?

    http://defendourfreedoms.net/2009/04/12/understanding-the-internet-102.aspx

    “Now, I have emails, phone calls, blog sites doing interviews on how I threatened Orly, I shut her down, yes folks, I’m the new Obama.

    Here is a tip to make note of from the NetWorld. If you want to trash you webmaster. You may want to acquire your domains first. Because now, I am immediately canceling the transfer of DefendOurFreedoms.US. I am cancelling it to point it to this blog post. You have made it so I have to Defend MySelf.

    Oh, and for anyone wondering about the PayPal scandal. Just ask Orly, where is the PayPal report.”

  14. rosettasister Says:

    I swear I’m always the last to know!

    http://216.221.102.26/blogger/post/Understanding-the-Internet-120.aspx

    Just a note to anyone that goes on Free Republic. A poster there – Calpernia – is Lisa Ostella. So, just be aware of what she posts in the future

  15. rosettasister Says:

    I did see the post about Orly’s site being down and then back up again.

    But I had no idea she was at the center of this drama.

    I’m not too clear on what really happened.

    Orly Taitz Update: Site Moving

    http://www.evilconservativeonline.com/2009/04/orly-taitz-update-site-moving.html

    From Orly’s Blog Site:

    Orly is transferring the domain (www.defendourfreedoms.us) to this blog .. making it the main blog.

    Her previous hosting service threatened to terminate her account if she was going to file a complaint with the FBI with regards to her Paypal account being tampered with.

    She would still like to file a complaint for investigation, so decided to use this blog.

    They gave her up to May 1st, but took it off prematurely without any notification before the transfer was complete.

    The originial domain should work within the next few days.

    Orly will be posting here regularly soon. Please use the domain

    http://www.repubx.com/

    to access this blog in the mean-time.

  16. rosettasister Says:

    The Best and the Brightest?

    http://www.cdobs.com/archive/local-media/the-best-and-the-brightest,12209

    Not unlike the controversy concerning the official copy of Obama’s birth certificate being withheld from public scrutiny, Obama has refused to release his academic transcripts to the media.

    Nevertheless, Obama is hailed as a genius because his handlers and supporters tell us so.

    By way of a brief digression, I have never subscribed to the extremist conspiracy theories which actuate some of the persons who are obsessed with reviewing an original, vault copy of Obama’s Hawaiian birth certificate,

    but, on occasion, one has to wonder why Obama ‘s legal representatives have fought with such determination in various court proceedings to keep the birth certificate sealed?

    Does he have something to hide and, if so, what?

  17. j.b. Says:

    Rose, I am perplexed by the whole Orly drama, too. However, I do believe she is on the “up and up” and I do not subscribe to the notion that she is or has been dealing nefariously in any of this! Some are suggesting that she is “part” of this “scandel” and I just refuse to accept that. I do believe that she has SO MUCH going on and is SO BUSY trying to get the TRUTH OUT that she does NOT HAVE TIME to look into the ins and out of DOMAINS. To the people who are suggesting otherwise, GMAFB. If I am wrong in my support of her, so be it.

  18. rosettasister Says:

    I wholeheartedly agree, j.b.

    Sucks Orly had to deal with this during Passover.

    She’s Jewish, isn’t she?

    How long does Passover last?

    I used to know this when I taught little Russian and Iranian Jewish girls.

    They were so adorable!

  19. rosettasister Says:

    I missed this one, too!

    Kentucky elections officer wants eligibility investigated — Refers matter to state attorney general for review

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=94535

    An official in the office of Kentucky’s elections chief

    http://www.sos.ky.gov/

    has referred to state Attorney General Jack Conway

    http://ag.ky.gov/

    for investigation the issue of Barack Obama’s eligibility to be president.

  20. rosettasister Says:

    Polarik comments at Free Republic:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2226850/posts?page=26#26

    To: pissant; Fred Nerks; MHGinTN; Candor7; null and void; LucyT

    Twitter this:

    People are asking, “Why won’t Obama produce his original birth certificate?”

    Obama cannot show his actual birth certificate now, for it would confirm that he, members of his campaign, and members of Factcheck are guilty of committing criminal fraud and covering it up via obstruction of justice, intimidation, and violation of people’s civil rights.

    26 posted on Saturday, April 11, 2009 4:32:42 PM by Polarik

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2226850/posts?page=39#39

    To: Fred Nerks

    I’ve seen this,

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2226850/posts?page=30#30

    and it serve to further underscore his fraud, Pelosi’s fraud, and the rest of the DNC power brokers

    39 posted on Sunday, April 12, 2009 6:18:13 AM by Polarik

  21. rosettasister Says:

    Rules for Conservative Radicals! I love it!

    Monday, March 30, 2009

    BREITBART: Online activists on the right, unite!

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/mar/30/rules-for-conservative-radicals/

  22. JAC Says:

    Do I think Orly speaks too soon to the media? Yes, I think she lets high emotions pole vault over common sense at times. She speaks before having all of her ducks in a row with a trail of legal evidence. It hurts her credibility.
    But she is a bull dog for the truth, and I believe she uses donations for exactly what they are meant for; She also often drives her own car instead of hopping a plane; doing her best to make donations stretch as far as possible.

    I don’t aalways gree with how she does somethings, but a con artist??……. nope not for a second…..

  23. rosettasister Says:

    Interactive Map for Wednesday Tea Party Festivities

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  24. rosettasister Says:

    Phoenix Tea Party

    City: Phoenix
    When: April 15, 6:00pm
    Where: Capitol building
    Contact: Keith Sipmann
    Other Info: http://www.americanpoliticalanalysis.com
    Facebook Group: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=66128430756

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  25. rosettasister Says:

    bbl

  26. Tenacity Says:

    CJ
    I believe you know my contacts on the bird flu lady. If you are the same CJ, then the names Fred & Dede may ring a bell for you. They have seen some docs, but have not gotten to the bottom of it yet. Others are investigating it as Troy mentioned. If you would like to discuss it further, please have Rose provide us with each others contact information.

  27. Tenacity Says:

    rosettasister Says:
    April 13, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    WTF???

    What happened to Dr. Orly Taitz’s Blog? What happened to Dr. Orly Taitz’s websites?
    *******************
    Last week I had a conversation with someone that had recently been affiliated with Orly. The affiliation had been terminated because, quote “she turned on me and I don’t understand why.” So as driven as she is, and you know how much I respect her tenacity, she like most people has a few chinks in her armor. I pray she’s not losing it. She has to be short of sleep and energy. I hope she’s not paranoid or reactive. We need all the warriors in this battle to remain of sound mind.

  28. Troy Says:

    My firend in LA met Orly at a rally in southern Cal this past Saturday and said that Orly was in very good spirits….Of course that doesn’t mean that behind the smile there may not be turulence.

  29. Troy Says:

    Rose, great posts today!!…Thanks

  30. j.b. Says:

    Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off topic, but I gotta say, Praise The Lord!
    http://drudgereport.com/

    I watched the first trial. Every possible minute and there was ONE WHINEY (neighbor of Phil’s, none-the-less) HOLDOUT.

    Justice for Lana. Finally.

  31. rosettasister Says:

    Troy Says:
    April 13, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    Rose, great posts today!!…Thanks

    ——————

    Well, I know the posters here are not easily impressed.

    So thanks, Troy.

  32. rosettasister Says:

    New Thread for a Loony Monday Night:

    https://rosettasister.wordpress.com/2009/04/13/toward-the-within/

  33. CJ Says:

    Tenacity, Troy: Sorry if I mixed up posts. Ten I’m not the CJ you’re referring to, sorry. I just reacted to that video so strongly because it hits/originates very close to where I live in NY. Any and all info regarding what the real story is, is appreciated. I also would like to do a little digging myself here and if I find out anything of value, I will report it to you two. I may do that privately if it seems prudent to do so. Don’t know if I’ll be able to find out anything, but it is too important to me not to at least try. Thanks.

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