Arrest this bastard, Mr. President. Signed, Neocon.



Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir

Confessions of a Sudanese deserter

Khalid, who is of black African origin, says he was forcibly recruited into President Omar al-Bashir’s Sudanese army in late 2002.

He and several other men where he lived were taken to the headquarters of his regiment which was based near the north-western Darfur town of Fasher.

He admits to having taken part in seven different attacks on Darfur villages with the help of Janjaweed militia.

The first one was in the Korma area in December 2002 several months before the conflict in Darfur officially began.

He claims to have been extremely reluctant to carry out the savage orders he was given.

“When they asked me to rape the girl, I went and stood in front of her,” he said.

“Tears came into my eyes. They said: ‘You have to rape her. If you don’t we will beat you.’ I hesitated and they hit me with the butt of a rifle.

“But when I went to the girl I couldn’t do it. I took her into a corner and lay myself on top of her as if I was raping her for about 10 to 15 minutes.

“Then, I jumped up and came out. They said: ‘Did you rape her?’ I said: ‘Yes, I did’.”

Khalid says that soon after this he and the other soldiers went back to base.

When they got there he was told to join another patrol immediately.

When he refused they beat and tortured him, inflicting severe burns on his legs and back.

He spent five weeks in a military hospital recovering from his injuries.

Before long, he said, he was ordered to join other brutal raids on Darfur villages.

I asked him what he was told to do with unarmed civilians who did not resist in any way.

“They told us, don’t leave anybody, just kill everybody,” he said.

“Even the children, if left behind in the huts, we had to kill them,” he said. “People would cry and run from their huts.

“Many couldn’t take all their children. If they had more than two they had to leave them behind. If you saw them you had to shoot and kill.”

George Clooney blogs about Darfur

For years, George Clooney argues, there has been little hope in Darfur. Today, Sudan‘s president was indicted for crimes against humanity. Now the world should bring him to justice.

(Thanks for making this an almost impossible task, Georgie. You asshole!)


From the unitednations

March 04, 2009

United Nations, 4 March 2009 – The International Criminal Court (ICC) today issued an arrest warrant for war crimes committed in the strife-torn Darfur region by Sudanese President Omar Al-Bashir, the first sitting Head of State to be indicted by the Court.
Richard Dicker from Human Rights Watch is explaining the significance of the arrest warrant to journalists during a press conference at UN Headquarters.

View the entire Press Conference (Real Media, 58 minutes):

News Story:

International Criminal Court website:

148 Responses to “Arrest this bastard, Mr. President. Signed, Neocon.”

  1. NEConservative Says:

    1st ?

  2. NEConservative Says:

    yay, it’s my first 1st!!

  3. NEConservative Says:

    dancing all by his nekkid self

  4. cynkading Says:

    Congrats! I had my first 1ssst yesterday!:)

  5. rosettasister Says:

    African leaders should support al-Bashir arrest, says Tutu

    African leaders should support a bid to arrest Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir on war-crimes charges, Nobel Peace Prize winner Desmond Tutu wrote in a New York Times editorial on Tuesday.

    The retired archbishop said it was “shameful” that so many African leaders have rallied around al-Bashir, who faces a possible arrest warrant from the International Criminal Court on Wednesday over alleged war crimes in Darfur.

    If the warrant is granted and an arrest carried out, al-Bashir would become the first sitting head of state to be hauled before the ICC since the court opened in 2002.

    “Because the victims in Sudan are African, African leaders should be the staunchest supporters of efforts to see perpetrators brought to account,” wrote Tutu.

    “Yet rather than stand by those who have suffered in Darfur, African leaders have so far rallied behind the man responsible for turning that corner of Africa into a graveyard.”

    Tutu chastised the African Union for calling on the United Nations Security Council to suspend the court’s proceedings.

    “I regret that the charges against President al-Bashir are being used to stir up the sentiment that the justice system — and in particular, the international court — is biased against Africa. Justice is in the interest of victims, and the victims of these crimes are African.

    “To imply that the prosecution is a plot by the West is demeaning to Africans and understates the commitment to justice we have seen across the continent.”

    An arrest warrant for al-Bashir “would be an extraordinary moment for the people of Sudan”, Tutu wrote.

    “African leaders should support this historic occasion, not work to subvert it.”

  6. rosettasister Says:


  7. cynkading Says:

    AR State Sovereignty Bill to be Heard in Committee Tomorrow

    This makes me want to 🙂

  8. cynkading Says:

    Considering I live in AR and alot of people have general consensus that we all are barefooted and marry our cousins and family members. Maybe we are not hopeless causses.

  9. hockeyfan530 Says:

    This is from the MO piece being introduced

    The right to have only qualified candidates placed on the ballot. The secretary of state shall determine that each person is qualified for the office he or she seeks, according to the law, before placing his or her name on the ballot. For candidates who are required by the Constitution of the United States to be natural born citizens, the secretary of state shall request an official copy of the candidate’s birth certificate. Other certifications, such as a certificate of live birth, shall not be accepted. Should any candidate fail to provide an official birth certificate within thirty days of the request by the secretary of state, his or her name shall not be placed on the ballot. The secretary of state shall verify the qualifications of any elected officeholder who was previously placed on a Missouri ballot. Should any elected officeholder fail to provide the required documentation or birth certificate within thirty days of the request by the secretary of state, the secretary of state shall turn the matter over to the attorney general who shall within twenty days file suit to obtain the required documentation.

  10. patriotamy Says:

    Good for any state that has the intelligence to make this part of their legislation/law.

  11. susiezen Says:

    Does anyone here ever rely on surveys….who really conducts them, when you come right down to it.
    There is a new poll out this evening where a huge majority, much more than half, stand by obamas stimulus {spending} plan!!!
    Yes, you heard it here, America loves obamas plan to save America. what the %$#*
    Did anybody hear Rush s speech last week?…..does anyone read a real newspaper?

    I thought that maybe some people were starting to see the light, recognize obamas evil ways….God please help the American people, they are so lost, and I fear completely brainwashed by their undying support of this hose bag.

  12. Troy Says:

    I wouldn’t believe any of the fake polls.

  13. Katie Says:

    susiezen – don’t believe the polls. ANY desired outcome can be achieved based on how the questions are worded, and who is being asked the questions. Most of the pollsters are liberals who support the Usurper.

    If we’ve all learned anything in this, it’s that we can no longer trust our previously trusted sources for news and information.

    Watch what happens during the national Tea Party coming up on 4/15. I predict here and now the numbers will be mind boggling for attendance.

  14. CJ Says:

    Here is an article that should be noted by all of us as it is another strike against anyone over 60 and it sucks. Wonder if AARP knows about this:

    “Guns to Be Banned for Elderly

    · Staff Reports – UPI

    · Washington – Deputy Attorney General Designate David Ogden is circulating a draft of an executive order in which, among other things, firearms possession would be severely limited to people over age 60.

    · An assistant to Ogden told us, “It appears that in these changing times, it is no longer necessary to allow the elderly to be armed. With all of their physical ailments and increasing senility, to leave them in control of a deadly weapon would be ludicrous.”

    · While the Executive Order may sound too powerful, experts in Constitutional law state that it is not actually un-Constitutional.

    · “It’s a question of wording.” states Columbia Law Professor, Dr. John Braxton. “The Constitution forbids the Congress, that is, the legislative branch, from passing any laws infringing on gun ownership. The executive branch is not included in this proviso. As long as the Congress doesn’t get involved, it’s technically a non-issue.”

    · The Justice Department was tossing the idea of a gun ban for seniors during the Carter and Clinton Administration, but public opinion stopped these initiatives. Now, the Obama White House believes differently.

    · An unnamed aide close to Ogden agreed to talk on the condition of anonymity.

    · “Clinton and Carter didn’t have as much of a mandate as President Obama. They were both Southerners, and the Second Amendment was sacrosanct to their constituents. However, President Obama comes from a new sort of politics, where divisive issues like firearms do not apply to him.”

    · “Quite frankly, it’s a shame that no one has had the good conscience to have done this already. It’s a simple process, and the majority of the American people will understand it and follow the law.”

    · The enforcement mechanism for this particular executive order has not been published. It is likely that the confiscation of weapons will be similar to Great Britain ‘s handgun ban, in which citizens willingly gave the weapons to police.

    · It is expected that the executive order will be given around July 1, when senior-related gun deaths reach their peaks.

    · The aide to Ogden stated: “For eight years you see the rolling back of regulation, and crime has skyrocketed. In fact, in Massachusetts alone, murders have risen 50% since 2002. Armed robbery has also risen dramatically. With such circumstances, we must act boldly.”

    · ———–

    · This question was appended by a group member who posted the UPI article above:

    · Folks, I can’t help but ask,

    · How much of this crime was committed by people over 60?

    · How many murders in schools, on the streets, etc. are committed by people over 60?

    · And how much of this crime was committed on people over 60 who are unarmed?

    · And, how many peace officers will have to retire because they are over 60?

    · Where is the END to this insanity?

    · Why are we not educating our neighbors & family about this?

    · Why do we let politics interfere with the freedom of all Americans?

    · Are the “elderly” simply not paying attention – or – are they not getting the information they need to fight & write their congress/senate members.”

  15. Troy Says:

    CJ Says:

    March 4, 2009 at 10:34 pm
    Here is an article that should be noted by all of us as it is another strike against anyone over 60 and it sucks. Wonder if AARP knows about this:

    “Guns to Be Banned for Elderly
    Dumbasses will get themselves shot trying to take away seniors guns and I will laugh at them.

  16. LadyTexan Says:

    I found this on Larry Sinclair’s site:

    Wednesday, March 4, 2009
    RED FRIDAY: The following was received from the Wife of our adopted PFC Friend

    If the Red shirt thing is new to you, read below…Last week, while traveling to Chicago on business, I noticed a Marine sergeant traveling
    with a folded flag, but did not put two and two together.After we boarded our flight, I turned to the sergeant, who’d been invited to sit in First Class (across from me), and inquired if he was heading home.No, he responded. Heading out I asked?No. I’m escorting a soldier home.Going to pick him up?No. He is with me right now. He was killed in Iraq,
    I’m taking him home to his family.

    The realization of what he had been asked to do hit me like a punch to the gut. It was an honor for him. He told me that, although he didn’t know the soldier, he had delivered the news of his passing to the soldier’s family and felt as if he knew them after many conversations in so few days. I turned back to him, extended my hand, and said, Thank you. Thank you for doing what you do so my family and I can do what we do.
    Upon landing in Chicago the pilot stopped short of the gate and
    made the following announcement over the intercom.
    Ladies and gentlemen, I would like to note that we have had the honor of having Sergeant Steeley of the United States Marine Corps
    join us on this flight. He is escorting a fallen comrade back home to his family. I ask that you please remain in your seats when we open the forward door to allow Sergeant Steeley to deplane and receive his fellow soldier. We will then turn off the seat belt sign.” Without a sound, all went as requested. I noticed the sergeant saluting the casket as it was brought off the plane, and his action made me realize that I am proud to be an American.
    So here’s a public Thank You to our military Men and Women
    for what you do so we can live the way we do Red Fridays.
    Very soon, you will see a great many people wearing Red every Friday. The reason? Americans who support our troops used to be called the “silent majority.” We are no longer silent, and are voicing our
    love for God, country and home in record breaking numbers.

    We are not organized, boisterous or overbearing.Many Americans, like you, me and all our friends, simply want to recognize that the vast majority of America supports our troops. Our idea of showing solidarity and support for our troops with dignity and respect starts this Friday — and continues each and every Friday until the troops all come home,sending a deafening message that … every red-blooded American who supports our men and women afar, will wear something red.

    By word of mouth, press, TV — let’s make the United States on every Friday a sea of red much like a homecoming football game in the bleachers. If every one of us who loves this country will share this with acquaintances, coworkers, friends, and family, it will not be long before the USA is covered in RED and it will let our troops know the once “silent”
    majority is on their side more than ever, certainly more than the media lets on.

    The first thing a soldier says when asked “What can we do to make things better for you?” is. “We need your support and your prayers.” Let’s get the word out and lead with class and dignity, by example,
    and wear something RED every FRIDAY.

  17. calli Says:

    I would like to know why most post are set up with links!! Who does this benefit? Obama?? The election is over! Why are people still working for him!! Do you think I could get a job? I could use the money!!!
    When I post on Larry’s site or yours , I have problems with my computer!!! I guess when you don’t support Obama, this is what happens!!
    I guess you all are proud of your president for setting up a deadline to withdraw all troops from Iraq!!! That is the only positive thing he has done!!!
    I gave money to a homeless person a few days ago!! I told this person Obama should do something for them!!! He got their votes!! If a homeless person can vote with a residence of a park bench then why in the heck can’t they get food stamps with the same residence!! At least they wouldn’t go hungry!!! It’s shameful!!! Shameful!!!

  18. Troy Says:

    Calli, are you insinuating something with you above comments?
    If so, then what is it?

  19. patriotamy Says:

    CJ Says:

    March 4, 2009 at 10:34 pm
    Here is an article that should be noted by all of us as it is another strike against anyone over 60 and it sucks. Wonder if AARP knows about this:

    Where did you find this info??

  20. Troy Says:

  21. ddlew2 Says:


    What in the hell are you talking about? Rose, an Obama supporter?? Huh? What?

  22. GatorGirl Says:

    In light of the present financial crisis, it’s prophetic what Thomas Jefferson said in 1802:

    ‘I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.’

    An amazing man!

  23. Tenacity Says:

    Have you taken a few nips today? When you wake up, a few of us would like to talk to you. We can understand you enjoying a little anesthetic, but this is Rose’s Gang your talking to. Don’t confuse us with the cesspool.

  24. Tenacity Says:

    Have you read most of the 20 or so interviews with Svali? She’s not 100% on with everything she says, but she sure shows how messed up this group is. The infiltration into our lives and our kids lives is mind boggling.

  25. cynkading Says:

    Hi Tenacity,
    I appreciate your link to Lindsey Williams. I learned quite alot and passed it on.

  26. Troy Says:

    No Ten, I haven’t, but I’ve read enough to get the picture.

  27. Troy Says:

    This is effing priceless!!!!….Semper Fi

  28. Troy Says:

    John “bathroom hider” Edwards finally admits the child is his.

  29. Troy Says:

    Thanks for the quote GatorGirl….Jefferson was spot on target.

  30. Troy Says:

    Ok, where is everybody?….Hello???

  31. LadyTexan Says:

    This is GREAT!

    Uh oh: Matthews sounding fed up with Obama’s earmark hypocrisy

  32. Katie Says:

    Leo Donofrio’s renewed!

  33. neconservative Says:

    Just got the following email/newsletter:
    Campaign for Justice for Victims of Weather Underground


    March 12 News Conference to Demand that Attorney General Eric Holder Authorize Expanded Federal Investigation of Bernardine Dohrn and Bill Ayers

    Press Contact: Fran Griffin of Griffin Communications,

    1970 Cold Case Murder: Who Killed Sergeant Brian V. McDonnell?
    Evidence Points to Weather Underground

    Washington, D.C. – Pressure is mounting for an expanded probe of Bill Ayers and his wife, Bernardine Dohrn, and their alleged roles in the 1970 bombing murder of a San Francisco policeman.

    Larry Grathwohl, former FBI informant in the Weather Underground and author of Bringing Down America: An FBI Informer with the Weathermen, will repeat his sworn testimony that points to the involvement of the Weather Underground in the bombing murder of Sergeant McDonnell at a News Conference on Thursday, March 12, at 12:30 p.m. at the National Press Club, 529 14th St., NW, 13th floor (First Amendment Lounge), Washington, D.C. Grathwohl says that he was at a meeting where Ayers said that his wife Dohrn had planted the bomb.

    The News Conference is being sponsored by the Campaign for Justice for Victims of Weather Underground Terrorism, a project of investigative journalist Cliff Kincaid’s America’s Survival, Inc.

    The cold case of Sgt. Brian V. McDonnell, killed in 1970 when a bomb exploded at the San Francisco Park Police Station, has been quietly reopened by law enforcement authorities in the hope of finding the person or persons responsible for the crime. But Grathwohl and other speakers say that more cooperation at the federal level in the investigation is needed. That is why they are demanding that Attorney General Eric Holder authorize more resources for the probe.

    Grathwohl will be joined by four other speakers who will discuss the McDonnell case, the violent history of the Weather Underground, and the reemergence of its members in political and campus organizing activities:

    – Cliff Kincaid, veteran journalist and President of America’s Survival, together with internationally-renowned blogger Trevor Loudon, will release a new report on how members of the SDS and Weather Underground have revived a radical student movement on college campuses. The report will examine the international connections that people like Ayers currently have with anti-American regimes and movements.

    –Jim Pera, a retired San Francisco police sergeant who was one of the first on the scene after the February 16, 1970 bombing, will have photographs of the heavy metal staples from the bomb used to kill Sergeant McDonnell.

    – Herbert Romerstein, a former Congressional investigator, will release a new report that examines the violent history of the Weather Underground and its links to other terrorist and communist groups.

    FOR THE PRESS: To make a reservation for the News Conference, send an email with your name, affiliation, and contact information to Fran Griffin at

    The Campaign for Justice for Victims of Weather Underground is a project of America’s Survival,, an independent foreign affairs watchdog organization.

  34. calli Says:

    tenacity, troy ,ddlew2,
    I have been posting on Rosetta’s site long before you guys!!! Evidently I am not one of the gang!! For God’s sake I am not the cesspool!! I do have lots of respect for Rosetta!!
    I do not drink!! I can’t remember when the last time I, as you called it took a nip!! If Rosetta doesn’t want me to post here anymore then I will respect her wishes!!
    I never said Rosetta was an obama supporter!! I have had doubts before as to who she supported!! She knows this!! I have followed Larry Sinclair’s sites for months!! Rosetta use to post comments every now and then!! Sometimes things aren’t what they seem!!! I have been to other sites and read comments by some of the same people that have posted on Larry’s site and as well as here!! Sometimes they seem to support Obama while pretending to support Mccain!! That is enough to put doubt into ones mind!!!
    Rosetta knows that I supported Hillary but then a supporter of Mccain!! I will never vote for obama!! I am now 100% republican !!! Proud of it!! Others say they will follow!!! Larry Sinclair’s famous words the truth will prevail!! If I offended you guys then I am sorry!! Maybe I don’t belong here!! That’s up to Rosetta!!

  35. Katie Says:

    Wanna grade the Usurper’s performance so far? Have fun!

  36. carribeansoul Says:

    Troy Says:

    March 5, 2009 at 2:25 am
    This is effing priceless!!!!….Semper Fi

    Troy, isn’t that FABULOUS! I saw that earlier today. And actually that day BamBam spoke at Lejune I saw it live. I made a point to watch and see how they responded to him. I laughed my azz off! I don’t think it made it to this clip, but he actually said to them…”thanks for that warm welcome!” bwahahahahah!!

  37. CJ Says:

    Amy: Sorry for not responding sooner but I haven’t been back since I posted about the guns and seniors. That came to me via email from my sister who lives in Colorado. It is a UPI article as shown in the header. Not sure where it was published first but I can try and find out. Just remember, don’t get any of the over 60 crowd riled up or else, LOL. Not really funny if true though. I’ll see if I can dig up the origins.

  38. LadyTexan Says:

    Alan Keyes has another outstanding article on his blog.

    Obama’s a Communist: Why is it Name Calling?

  39. LadyTexan Says:

    Another Poll………… go vote!

    Obama Gets Strong Support in Poll

  40. ddlew Says:

    My sentiments EXACTLY!!!

  41. Troy Says:

    ddlew, here is a complimentary video to the one you just posted and is also relevent to our current times.

  42. patriotamy Says:

    CJ Says:

    March 5, 2009 at 4:15 am
    Thanks, but I did find it. It was a satire piece written on (oh gosh, I forgot the blog’s name).

    Anyway, I did find the original blog. Thank you CJ.

  43. patriotamy Says:

    I was just reading the brief over at Leo’s place and an OLD song came to mind. (I know I am wierd!!) Many of you will not remember it, but the first part goes like this.

    “Next time your found, with your chin on the ground
    There a lot to be learned, so look around

    Just what makes that little old ant
    Think he’ll move that rubber tree plant
    Anyone knows an ant, can’t
    Move a rubber tree plant

    But he’s got high hopes, he’s got high hopes
    He’s got high apple pie, in the sky hopes

    So any time your gettin’ low
    ‘stead of lettin’ go
    Just remember that ant
    Oops there goes another rubber tree plant”

  44. ddlew Says:

    calli Says:
    March 5, 2009 at 3:35 am

    tenacity, troy ,ddlew2,
    I have been posting on Rosetta’s site long before you guys!!! Evidently I am not one of the gang!! For God’s sake I am not the cesspool!! I do have lots of respect for Rosetta!!
    I do not drink!! I can’t remember when the last time I, as you called it took a nip!! If Rosetta doesn’t want me to post here anymore then I will respect her wishes!!
    I never said Rosetta was an obama supporter!! I have had doubts before as to who she supported!! She knows this!! I have followed Larry Sinclair’s sites for months!! Rosetta use to post comments every now and then!! Sometimes things aren’t what they seem!!! I have been to other sites and read comments by some of the same people that have posted on Larry’s site and as well as here!! Sometimes they seem to support Obama while pretending to support Mccain!! That is enough to put doubt into ones mind!!!
    Rosetta knows that I supported Hillary but then a supporter of Mccain!! I will never vote for obama!! I am now 100% republican !!! Proud of it!! Others say they will follow!!! Larry Sinclair’s famous words the truth will prevail!! If I offended you guys then I am sorry!! Maybe I don’t belong here!! That’s up to Rosetta!!


    Nah…stick around. After all, you have posted here for a long time and Rosetta obviously knows you.

    Your post, if you read through it again, was easy to misinterpret.

    It’s all good. 🙂

  45. Tenacity Says:

    Check out this site:

    This guy was on the COS conference call tonight and was totally freaked out. He is afraid for his life and is in contact with many agents that are no longer employed by the government that are literally hiding for fear of being killed as some of their peers have been. He said that they need money to protect these agents so that they can tell their stories.

  46. Tenacity Says:

    You may have posted here for some time…I don’t really care about that. I haven’t suggested that you are not welcome to express your opinion. What I am suggesting is that it would appear that you do not know the character or intent of the regulars here, which I have not observed any regularity of comments from you. You bounce in here and start leveling some negative accusations. I found your comments unfounded and a bit obnoxious. If you want to enter into a sincere dialogue and take the time to get to know the regulars here, I believe you may see the folly in your comments. Have some people here changed their thinking since as recently as last summer? I know I have and others here have admitted becoming much more aware of certain truths. For example, I have been a die hard Republican, but now realize the facade of the Republican Party. I am a conservative and now see the entire federal government a corrupted and willfully destroying this country.

  47. patriotamy Says:

    Tenacity Says:

    March 5, 2009 at 5:58 am
    good site. Have bookmarked for later read. Too tired tonite!! I left a song for you..

  48. Tenacity Says:

    Thanks Amy…sleep well

  49. susiezen Says:

    Troy…SEMPER FI! That was great, showed my brother, a us marine, retired, he loved it,
    My dad, 87 years old, a fighter pilot in the world war II. !st air comando 4 tours, and proud as hell, Carries in his wallet every day a script of how prous he was dom defend our country. A true patrion who would serve again in a split second if it meant defending our Lady Liberty.
    He will forever hold in his heart the picture of the many soldier friends who sacrificed their lives for you and me!!!!

    JUST TRY to walk in his home and remove guns from his two hundred year old, gun cabinet, filled with the memories of a mans life time.
    not even out of his cold $#@% hands!!!!!

  50. Tenacity Says:

    LEO ON PLAINS RADIO???????? YES! I will meet you at the pole.

    Thursday, March 5, 2009
    6PM Central

    with your host, Ken Dunbar

    Ken’s special guest this evening will be
    Yes, Leo is back in the fight!

    Phil Johnson
    discussing his controversial flag he has flown and how this effects and offends not only his, but our constitional rights

    Clark Hamblin aka CommancheShaman
    and his new lawsuit

    Leo Donofrio

  51. susiezen Says:

    Cali, your comments could have been taken as directed toward people here, but probably not what you meant, or not as offensive.
    Even so guys, LIGHTEN UP! Really I think sometimes your scrubbing rosies site…. a little controversy can be healthy. don’t be so quick to police peoples opinions.

    I happened to enjoy foxtrot and her sometimes conflict of interest, and I miss that. maybe you all should welcome a little bit of difference in opinion, or even people just blowing off smoke.

    This “calli your going to need a talking to”, is so authoritative.
    I hope we are not all walking on eggshells fearing to not offend other bloggers…I believe we are all egual’s here, if some take there roles here to seriously it takes away from the true meaning of blogging….spilling out your opinion.

    After experiencing some real nasty people confronting me in the past on the other site, I WHOLE HEARTILY agree we have to watch out for the spitefull extremist just trying to insult and hurt others…those “trolls” or obots or whatever they are called, they are rightfully banned for they cause disruption, not insightful dialogue.

    As I get to know blogging, and look at other sites, I see a common theme. there is usually always a “group, or gang who are usually the main contributors to the site, they know each other well and are seemingly close, possibly sharing private emails as to talk amongst themselves, supposedly this is the character and make-up of most all social settings.
    theres other contributors, but not generally accepted as the “gang”.
    such the reference from calli stating that she must not be a part of “the gang” her feelings due mostly by the reaction to her words.

    I remember when I first posted on this site some nasty obamite followed me here and accused me of being a needy blogger waiting on the outskirts of being accepted by a web group. As I recall Jac defended me, stating that everyone needs a chance.

    All in all I suppose my point is, don’t be so quick to judge. Were all just getting by, and everyone in a group offers different advantages…some work extremely hard contributing endless research, where another might just pop in with a lengthy opinion and a whole lotta of venting.
    Times are tough and its hard to find a safe plase to discuss our fears and anger.
    As long as we are not made up of a bad spirit or soul, posting without the intention of hurting,,,,let it be.

  52. susiezen Says:

    One last thought before I run….i’m all for positive thinking, and I believe its very important to let the past be what it is…the past. But, I also believe that the past is history and we learn from history.
    there is no reason to go around beating a dead horse especially when we all were collectively taken advantage of by the site we don’t mention. BUT, that to me was huge, and every once in a while the activity over there cannot be ignored, especially by the ones closest to that debacle. Its laughable now how naive I was, but it was my first.
    So when will the ban be lifted, I actually have a lot of pent up humor that can be shared from that experience.
    so, oh oh,

  53. jrinNC Says:

    Troy – I assume this is you on Leo’s Site ———Way to Go Troy——-

    Troy Says:
    March 4, 2009 at 11:18 pm

    Leo, you previously made it clear that you believe Obama was born in Hawaii….Common sense tells me that a person does not hire three law firms and spend upwards of a million dollars in legal fees to keep from spending about twenty bucks to provide a pristine birth certificate….With that being said, here is my question….Who is going to provide an unbiased third party forensic document examiner to inspect the “pristine” birth certificate that will be produced for the court by Obama?
    We already know that the courts will not rule against Obama in regards to the “natural born citizen” issue, even though it’s clear thst he doesn’t meet the requirements…..I’m not sure exactly what it is that he doesn’t want anyone to see in regards to his birth certificate, but there is little doubt that a problem for him there lies…..I would hate to see Holder provide the perfect opportunity for Obama to pull a fast one over on “we the people”……Who would be the expert to examine the document?

    [Ed. I want a decision on the merits as to nbc. If Hawaii officials say whatevere bc comes forth is pristine, that’s going to be the end of it. I don’t believe Obama would have come this far without controlling the bc issue. I don’t think he’s worried about that. But the BC did provide deep cover for the British citizen issue for a very long time. I can’t answer all of your questions. My instinct tells me Obama has the bc locked down no matter what happens. The other issue is out of his control, but the courts have protected him on that one and will probably continue to do so. My objective now is to just provide the legal truth and protect military people from judicial harm.]

    I have read Leo’s works from top to bottom, plus all of the comments. Did you notice KOYAAN is at it again – he posted 3 times but here is last snippet from “QUO WARRANTO: A New Hope – Military can now retreat in peace.”

    koyaan Says:
    March 5, 2009 at 2:46 am

    [Ed. Brother, here’s what the Constitution says:

    Article 2, Section 1, Clause 6:

    …Congress may by Law provide for the Case of Removal, Death, Resignation or Inability, both of the President and Vice President…]

    My God, you are utterly clueless, aren’t you? Either that or you’re relying on your supporters being utterly clueless. Which is it?

    [Ed. snipped for using insults and being intellectually dishonest.

    Nowhere in the Constitution does it say impeachment is the only form of removal. Armendments 20 and 25 do not nullify Article 2 Section 1 Clause 6. They modify it and they provide further proof that Congress was given the power to remove the President.

    Do not reply to this blog… your frustration and evil tone directed at my readers will not be tolerated. I know it’s frustrating to have your intellectual capacity challenged with sufficient force…but you should try to educate without slapping people in the face for proving you wrong.]

    So you’re not only misrepresenting Article II, Section 1, Clause 6, you’re citing it even though it’s no longer in force!

    [Ed. Now that’s hilarious. That is truly hilarious. I had to leave this in for my readers to see where the arguments will now be flying from. Hey kids, if you don’t like the Constitution’s provisions, just tell people they don’t exist. Wow. I know I’m onto something now. When you see them flip out like this, you know you’ve got them.]

    I am so proud of Leo for putting him in his place.

    While I haven’t posted in awhile – I have been keeping up with you guys and gals. I am VERY PROUD of all of you. When I want to know what is really going on I can depend on this site. I got to the point that I was becoming depressed over the entire world economic situation that I shut down for awhile. I have been focusing my time on the end times. As I see that some here have also done – Tenacity for example. Let me say that while some may not take to heart, here in NC over in Goldsboro, we had a 15 year old young man who has held a revival on a nightly basis for over a month. OVER 300 people have received Christ as a result of this young man’s preaching. So end times prophecy – yes, God is building his army too.

  54. Troy Says:

    Here are two stories that will leave you scratching your head.

  55. Troy Says:

    jrinNC Says:

    March 5, 2009 at 1:47 pm
    Troy – I assume this is you on Leo’s Site ———Way to Go Troy——-

  56. carribeansoul Says:

    Troy…this is the one that really gets me…

    Immorality is absolutely taking over the world!

  57. Troy Says:

    carribeansoul Says:

    March 5, 2009 at 3:33 pm
    Troy…this is the one that really gets me…
    Yep, it’s truly pathetic!!!

  58. Tenacity Says:

    I do not wish to protract this co-dependent debate. You have interjected like you are Calli’s helicopter parent and accused others of what Calli was guilty of. I’m not into making excuses as it is the equivalent of political correctness. If Calli is sincere, then your comments have only served to interfere with a mature discussion.

  59. Troy Says:

    In regards to my comments/question that I posed to Leo on his site, it seems that Leo is providing the PERFECT avenue for Obama to weasle out of the mess he got himself into over the citizenship issue.

    If I were Eric Holder or Obama and Leo requseted the Quo Warranto action to be pursued, then I would jump for joy….Let the charade begin!!!!

    Holder: Excuse me President Obama, sir, but I’m afraid that I’m going to need to see your birth certificate.

    Obama: Oh, no problem Eric, here it is.

    Holder: Ok, it looks good to me….Thank you Mr. President.

    Obama: Dont’ mention it Eric Baby, I’m glad I could help.

    Court: Ok, we’re satisfied too and don’t worry about that whole natural born citizen / dual citizen thingy, it’s all just a big misunderstanding….Carry on fellas.

    I’m beginning to wonder if Leo is a shill.

  60. Troy Says:

    Tenacity Says:

    March 5, 2009 at 3:44 pm
    I do not wish to protract this co-dependent debate. You have interjected like you are Calli’s helicopter parent and accused others of what Calli was guilty of. I’m not into making excuses as it is the equivalent of political correctness. If Calli is sincere, then your comments have only served to interfere with a mature discussion.
    It was the second time at this blog in which Calli leveled accusations/insinuations against Rose….Both times were unprovoked and unjust….There is no excuse for it and it certainly wasn’t on topic or a case of difference of opinions on a particular topic…Both times were incidiary and served absolutely no viable purpose other than being an outright attack.

  61. rosettasister Says:

    Comment meant for

    Joan Says:
    March 5, 2009 at 2:32 am

    Has anyone ever asked he Obamas directly about their so-called Christianity and attendance at that church in Chicago? Any record of weekly envelopes? Any record of the children’s attendance in Sunday School? How about polling the congreagation about where they sat each Sunday? There could be some interesting answers. Especiallly out of the mouths of the babes.

  62. ddlew2 Says:

    Ten & Troy,

    This is the second “melt down” that I have witnessed from this calli person. I thought it was really odd that calli just came SCREAMING (!!) into the thread completely unprovoked.

    I thought it was stranged and smacked of someone that may not be very stable.

  63. rosettasister Says:

    Troy Says:
    March 5, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    It was the second time at this blog in which Calli leveled accusations/insinuations against Rose….Both times were unprovoked and unjust….There is no excuse for it and it certainly wasn’t on topic or a case of difference of opinions on a particular topic…Both times were incidiary and served absolutely no viable purpose other than being an outright attack.


    Troy, thank you for your chivalry.

    This has been going on with calli for some time now.

    It’s usually just a case of misinterpretation or I haven’t explained myself very well.

    All I can say, calli, is with friends like me, Obama doesn’t need any enemies.

    calli has been around for a long time now and sometimes I really do appreciate her words.

    so I don’t blame anyone, I haven’t even looked at what calli wrote.

    but I am grateful and I just want to continue what we’re good at here, which is getting to the bottom of things.

    sometimes I even allow myself to believe that we’re actually making a difference.

  64. Troy Says:

    ddlew2 Says:

    March 5, 2009 at 4:15 pm
    Ten & Troy,

    This is the second “melt down” that I have witnessed from this calli person. I thought it was really odd that calli just came SCREAMING (!!) into the thread completely unprovoked.

    I thought it was stranged and smacked of someone that may not be very stable.
    Agreed….Note my post above.

  65. Troy Says:

    sometimes I even allow myself to believe that we’re actually making a difference.
    Rose, I think we do make a difference…..Often people chime in and tell us that they follow the blog and commend us on how much good information that we provide them….It makes it all worth while for me.

  66. sba1872 Says:

    Hiya, Troy!

    I’m beginning to wonder if Leo is a shill.

    I read your comment at Leo’s site and must admit my heart sank at his response. I absolutely do not question Leo’s motives or concerns. But it’s clear he has very little hope of success. He is still a believer in the process and personal integrity; that is, that one can only do what is right. It appears to me that he is SO not a believer in do whatever and damn the consequences. Personally, I don’t believe he would even be back in the mix if it weren’t for Dr. Orly’s pursuing quo warranto with Armed Forces plaintiffs. He did research and was freaked out that servicemen could be subjecting themselves to court martial, charges of treason maybe, whatever the formal charge is against soldiers who challenge the Commander in Chief. He wants servicepeople to stand down and take themselves off the bullseye target. I read the case he said everyone should read, linked in his most recent post, Newman v. United States ex Rel. Frizzell, 238 U.S. 537 (1915). It’s all about standing, baby. I’m anxious to read Part 2 of Leo’s research for standing to be covered. The Newman case was dismissed as the plaintiff was not considered an “interested party” within the meaning of the statute. One who has the same interest as the general public (people like us) do not have standing. According to my (A LAYPERSON’S) interpretation of the Newman case, in order to qualify as an “interested party,” a plaintiff must be personally affected by the challenged officeholder holding that office, e.g. having run for that office. The Newman case uses as an example the fact that although all citizens have a public interest in all jury trials, a judge may be recused or a proposed juror excused on the basis of having a personal interest in the case. It is this kind of peculiar interest which gives a right to act as a plaintiff in a quo warranto proceeding. Leo said something about civil service people who may have been laid off as a consequence of BO’s usurption. We’ll see. As I said, I look forward to Part 2 of Leo’s research as it pertains to standing. Bottom line: I don’t think Leo is a shill at all. I just think he is doing what he can, what he thinks is right, to get our military out of harm’s way, but has very little expectation of success. He who expects nothing …

  67. rosettasister Says:

    Anyone know who is speaking on this video?

    From CRX35E

    Added: March 04, 2009

    Suing Barack Obama in Court – US Military Refusing Orders

  68. rosettasister Says:

    “Birther” Soldier Silenced

    An servicemember who was participating in the ongoing Barack Obama-birth certfificate saga has been told to shut up. Seeing how soldiers routinely talk with the media, especially the embeds, this smells

    like the “shit rolling downhill”.

    A member of the U.S. military whose suspicions about Barack Obama’s eligibility to be president prompted him to sign onto a legal demand being sent to Attorney General Eric Holder has now been silenced.

    Attorney Orly Taitz, the California activist who through her

    foundation is assembling the case, told WND today she’s been informed one of the members of the military has been ordered by commanding officers not to speak with media.

    The officer’s identity was withheld to prevent further actions against him.
    Now, before you get all outraged, it’s not like we didn’t see this coming.

    If this serviceman was a member of the “fringe” as Obama-loving liberals call them, why the need to take him out of the equation? Maybe removing all those who have “standing” is the plan, as that legal argument just may work…?

  69. Troy Says:

    I’m not sure who that is Rose.

  70. rosettasister Says:

    Thanks, Troy!

    I get the feeling I’ve heard that voice before.

  71. Troy Says:

    me 2

  72. rosettasister Says:

    Senator: Eligibility is up to the voters — Republican Martinez implies constitutional requirement for presidency can be bypassed

    Posted: March 04, 2009
    10:15 pm Eastern

    The constituent had asked about Martinez’s perspective on the issue on which WND and others have reported: claims made by dozens of lawsuits around the country that Obama might not meet the constitutional qualification for various reasons.

    “Presidential candidates are vetted by voters at least twice – first in the primary elections and again in the general election. President-Elect Obama won the Democratic Party’s nomination after one of the most fiercely contested presidential primaries in American history,” Martinez responded.

    “And, he has now been duly elected by the majority of voters in the United States. Throughout both the primary and general election, concerns about Mr. Obama’s birthplace were raised. The voters have made clear their view that Mr. Obama meets the qualifications to hold the office of president,” he wrote.

    Multiple WND calls to Martinez’s offices in Washington and Florida today asking for comment did not generate a response from the senator.

  73. rosettasister Says:

    From operationnorthwoodz

    March 03, 2009

    TN state rep Frank Nicely sues Obama to show birth certificate

  74. rosettasister Says:

    Attack on Palin Exposed- Stop the Smear Campaign!

  75. LadyTexan Says:

    It says that thread on FR about Palin has been pulled…….hmmmmm.

  76. LadyTexan Says:

    LMAO! I just read this coment on another blog. How right it is!

    “Rep Aaron Shockk said that “obama” was a “SKUNK” I believe he is right, he is part black, part white and something really STINKS.”

  77. rosettasister Says:

    LadyTexan Says:
    March 5, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    It says that thread on FR about Palin has been pulled…….hmmmmm.


    Damn, I wish I had made a note of who posted it!

    It had something to do with this story:

    Palin pick 2nd female Supreme Court judge — SCRUTINY: Selection went against push from Alaska Family Council.

    The poster is “finding more information to add.”

  78. rosettasister Says:

    Here’s another thread that might provide some insight:

    Sarah Palin: Horns of a Dilemma

    To: techno

    long time supporter? you signed up 3 weeks before the election.

    obvious troll

    she was damned no matter what she did. the libs knew that… let her choose one, and then planned to harp on it in the blogosphere to see if it had any legs.

    posters like you are the foot soldiers testing the waters to see whether or not they can sell the ‘Palin sold out pro-lifers’ line

    seriously, go away. she has lived the life and people are hip to the games (at least the people here)

    60 posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:17:15 AM by sten

  79. LadyTexan Says:

    Geez, this is a stupid poll, but go vote anyway.

    Study: Sarah Palin Too Pretty to Attract Voters

  80. rosettasister Says:

    This “paper” picked up this story from Politico:

    Missouri lawmakers moonlight as Obama-isn’t-a-citizen conspiracy theorists

  81. rosettasister Says:

    I believe this was posted already – but what the heck!

    From sallee5

    Michael Savage – “CNN Trying to Cover Up Obama Birth Certificate Controversy”

    Michael Savage – “CNN Trying to Cover Up Obama Birth Certificate Controversy” part 2

  82. LadyTexan Says:

    Obama seems determined to keep insulting the Brits.

    Obama’s blockbuster gift for Brown to reaffirm the ‘special relationship’: 25 DVDs

    Marking the special relationship: The Browns put a lot of thought into their gifts for the Obamas – but the gesture did not seem to be reciprocated

    Gordon Brown has been given a collection of 25 classic American films on DVD as his official gift from Barack Obama.

    The Prime Minister flew home from his successful trip to Washington this morning with the ‘special collector’s box’ of films hidden in his luggage.

    No 10 had tried to keep the present a secret, refusing to answer reporters who asked what President Obama had given to mark the reaffirmation of the special relationship.

    However, the London Evening Standard reported, the prime minister received the collection of DVDs as his gift.

    It is not known which DVDs were included, but one is thought to be the Dreamworks film Toy Story.
    One reason for the secrecy might be that the gift seems markedly less generous and thoughtful than the presents taken to Washington by the Prime Minister.

    Mr Brown’s gifts included an ornamental desk pen holder made from the oak timbers of Victorian anti-slaver HMS Gannet, once named HMS President.

    Mr Obama was so delighted he has already put it in pride of place in the Oval Office on the Resolute desk which was carved from timbers of Gannet’s sister ship, HMS Resolute.

    Another treasure given to the U.S. President was the framed commission for HMS Resolute, a vessel that came to symbolise Anglo-US peace when it was saved from ice packs by Americans and given to Queen Victoria.

    Finally, Mr Brown gave a first edition set of the seven-volume classic biography of Churchill by Sir Martin Gilbert.

    The White House issued a press briefing today that put on record how much Mr Obama had appreciated the gifts.

    The Prime Minister’s reaction to getting DVDs is not known. Mr Brown is not noted for his love of cinema, although he once claimed on a trip to India that he was an admirer of Bollywood.

    The Browns showered gifts on the Obama children too, using the occasion to promote British exports.
    Story continues at the link above.

  83. carribeansoul Says:

    LadyTexan…I was just listening to Rush telling this story and was/am so disgusted and embarrased by how low class, tacky, selfish and SOOOO in over his head of a president we have! It just gets worse every day. I wonder how low it has to go before we finally get relief and a turn-around by getting rid of him?

  84. LadyTexan Says:


    You know, I don’t usually care what other nations think about us. But this foolish (p)Resident appears to be deliberately snubbing our most faithful allies. That pisses me off!

  85. carribeansoul Says:

    Oh yeah he is! Add this to the returning of the statue of Churchill that wasn’t even his to return!

    I’m willing to make a prediction right here and now that when he finally does leave our white house, whether by force or end of term, there won’t be a single thing left! We thought the Clintons were bad…these folks are going to make them look like child’s play! Audicity is right!

  86. rosettasister Says:

    To: AJ in NYC; Iowan; LucyT; MHGinTN; Calpernia; Candor7

    “But because it’s a new document, not a vintage certificate, it’s sprouted conspiracy theories about whether or not it was forged (it wasn’t) and whether it actually proves that Obama was born abroad (it really doesn’t)”

    The age of the document is not what sprouted conspiracy theories, it’s because the image is a stone-cold forgery of a COLB. This is a fact that has not and can not be refuted by anyone.

    However, it does show poeple just how depraved is this pretender President to resort to forging a government document and passing it off as his original birth certificate. The fact that it is a forged image is irrefutable, as well as the blindness of Obamanites who refuse to believe that their corrupt leader would ever lie to them. And, so, like lemmings they are being led off a cliff.

    Thanks to the media and a nation of mallable minds, there are still millions of Americans who keep giving Obama approval ratings in the 60’s while giving ratings in the 30’s to the Democrat-controlled Congress. This disparity serves to underscore the disconnect between reality and fantasy, and between understanding how your government works, and not giving a sh*t.

    You can call us “birthers,” or whatever you like, but our eyes are wide open, and it is up to us to save everyone’s a**, including those who don’t deserve it.

    34 posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:46:29 AM by Polarik (“A forgery created to prove a claim repudiates that claim”)

  87. rosettasister Says:

    I thought this might be a good time to repost this video about Polarik from illuminatitv

  88. JAC Says:


    The Brits would be about the only ones that could possibily assist us if things hit the fan. I would say he is trying to tick them off on purpose. I expect more of this behavior not less.

    I wish we could just find a smoking gun scandal to upset the agenda of this bugus Prez

  89. LadyTexan Says:


    I agree that there will be more of this snubbing to come.

  90. JAC Says:

    Lady Tex

    I found a online radio station that is based in Texas… that talks patriot all the time…They talk about many of the things we post here at Rose’s

    I listen to it often… I can pass on the link…

  91. patriotamy Says:

    In reading comments on websites, I keep seeing people saying that Obama won by a ‘landslide.’ So I looked it up. Yes, Obama won 67.8% of the electoral vote. Is that a landslide?

    Let’s look at the whole picture, 131,370,793 people voted. Obama won 69,456,898 of those votes. That is 52.87% which means that 47.13% of the “voters” did not vote for him. A difference of 5.74% would not be considered a landslide.

    The USA population estimates in 2007 was approximately 301,620,000 of which 227,723,000 are over 18 and could have voted. So, a little over half of potential voters even bothered to vote. If you take that number and figure the percentage of how many Americans actually voted for Obama, that now would be 31%.

    (A side note here. Only 37% of the population voted in 2000. So 21% more people voted in this election cycle and the spread was still only 5.74% in favor of Obama.)

    I know I will be getting more active in my neighborhood to get people to understand the importance of their responsibility as a citizen to vote.

  92. Tenacity Says:

    rosettasister Says:
    March 5, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    Anyone know who is speaking on this video?

    From CRX35E

    Added: March 04, 2009

    Suing Barack Obama in Court – US Military Refusing Orders
    The speaker may have been Jim Lyon

  93. LadyTexan Says:


    What’s the link? Is it Ed Hale???….lol, snark!

  94. LadyTexan Says:

    This forum post came out just yesterday and there’s already over 1000 comments.

    Welcome to the Pinocchio Administration

    “You won’t hear about the lying on ABC, CBS or NBC. Or read it in The Washington Post or New York Times either. Last year, the news media threw considerable influence behind President Pinocchio. Now journalism is in such financial distress, they’d be hard-pressed to fact check his cereal box. Besides it’s a sin of Washington etiquette to call a deliberate political misstatements “lies.” Only the uncouth call them actual lies.”

  95. rosettasister Says:

    Highly suggest you read all posts at this blog:

    But especially this one. Obama is starting to scare the you know what outta regular folks, not just “nutters” like me.

    Jim Cramer to Barack Obama: You’ve Made Things Worse


    Self-described “middle-of-the-road Democrat, Obama supporter and CNBC analyst Jim Cramer: (go to link to read what Cramer has to say)

    James Pethokoukis:

    You can take all the investors who I’ve talked to who are more confident in Team Obama today than they were on Election Day and fit them into a Smart Car.

    And that’s if they don’t have groceries. The Pelosi-designed stimulus package. The income and investment tax hikes. The cap-and-trade carbon tax.

    A possible healthcare tax. The lack of banking resue plan. That’s how you evaporate 30 percent of the stock market in four months.

    No wonder my guy Ed Yardeni put this out this morning;

    “I am becoming increasingly convinced that the cabal in Washington has no intention of ending the financial crisis. Instead, they see tremendous opportunities to gain more power by prolonging it.”

    (This is scary stuff!)

  96. Tenacity Says:

    We should all pray for JAC to have a successful meeting tonight.

    If you think Rose’s Gang is not making a difference, ask JAC, Katie, Troy, Slider, ddlew, Susiezen, Thinkingmom, j.b., Patriotamy, Carribeansoul, Lady Tex, sba, Patty, Me, or a number of others. Even the lurkers chime in to acknowledge the value of Rose’s Place. The ripples are not only flowing, but growing.

    Relationships facilitate positive change. Do not underestimate the value of these relationships and pray that God blesses the increase.

  97. JAC Says:


    All the regulars here I would trust with my full name, phone number and address… I have no worried about pretenders here……

    Rose, God love her, wants to think the best of people, I know she even gave BO a chance when he was sworn in to prove our fears were groundless.
    We all kind of hoped for the same thing really; hoped but did not put stock in it.

    If I would have to guess, I would say Rose was born under the sign of Libra; Like me she is always looking for a balance.
    I wait and see what happens before jumping in with both feet..

    SO ROSE,……. just for interest sake….. are you a Libra??

  98. JAC Says:


    The meeting is Sunday,….. but thank you 🙂

  99. JAC Says:

    No,……. lol not loony Ed

    it’s called Freedom Underground

  100. JAC Says:

    Did you get in on any of that conference call last night??
    wow it was a circus,… and went way over time

  101. rosettasister Says:

    Guest host Jim Geraghty fills in for Hugh today and talks about the Rush/Michael Steele flap with Byron York of the D.C. Examiner, and then plays Hugh’s interview with Washington Post journalist Perry Bacon.

    Listen here:

    [audio src="" /]


    Hugh’s interview of Washington Post’s Perry Bacon interviewing Hugh


    PB: You consider yourself a conservative leader?

    HH: No, I am a pundit and an essayist and a talk show host. Leadership is for electeds.

    PB: So you don’t consider Rush one, either?

    HH: I think he’s an extraordinarily influential communicator, but he has often said he is in the business of putting together a great radio show, which he does. I think a lot…he’s sort of Oprah, and I’ve made this point over and over again. The two greatest communicators in America are Rush Limbaugh and Oprah Winfrey. Oprah is center-left, Rush is center-right, and really more conservative than Oprah is liberal in terms of being out and open about it. She is every bit as far to the left as Rush is to the right, I think, and both of them are mainstream. But they are extraordinarily influential in the way that people understand the world. But they’re not elected officials, they don’t want to be, that’s not their job. They’re entertainers. So am I.

  102. LadyTexan Says:

    Thanks for the link, JAC.

    Is there a particular program(s) or time slot you listen to?

  103. ddlew2 Says:

    He gave him a set of 25 DVD’S? I’m sure they were a free set given to him from Time Magazine for all of the cover shots.

    Can you imagine?

    OBAMA: Oh shit! You mean I need to give him a gift?

    MICHELLE: Here, give him these….

    OBAMA: What are these?

    MICHELLE: Those DVD’S that Time gave you.

    OBAMA: Ah. Perfect!

  104. JAC Says:


    I just turn it on,….and listen while I do household things…
    Like yesterday they REALLY talked about all of the gun issues and BO agenda…. it was quite interesting….They do have a schedule of their shows on the site…..
    I have found more patriot radio,… but I haven’t listen in on them yet..So I don’t want to share links until I proof them for BS.

  105. JAC Says:

    speaking of ThinkingMom,…… I haven’t seen her around in quite awhile….

  106. rosettasister Says:

    Yeah, TM, I know you’re super busy, but check in once in a blue moon — let us know how you’re doin’.


  107. Tenacity Says:

    I was in and out of that call due to the End Times class I was in. I caught the tail end as well. Did you hear John Nicholson? Was he freaked out or what? I want to talk with him, but not on a conference call. I posted his site last night:

    I did hear your dialogue with Tim and his promotion of your meeting.

  108. patriotamy Says:

    Once again, I must thank Rose for such a great place to ‘lurk’, learn and post something once in a while.

    It gives me a chance to voice my concerns, know that others are also working and doing what they can for this country, and I feel that you all are good people. That the USA is Good and worth the efforts to try to save her.

  109. Tenacity Says:

    Here is a treasure trove for you:

    Note there are 5 pages

  110. Troy Says:

    JAC Says:

    March 5, 2009 at 7:05 pm
    speaking of ThinkingMom,…… I haven’t seen her around in quite awhile….

    rosettasister Says:

    March 5, 2009 at 7:16 pm
    Yeah, TM, I know you’re super busy, but check in once in a blue moon — let us know how you’re doin’.

    If I remember correctly, isn’t she busy preparing for an upcoming trip or something?….or was that Patty I’m thinking of?

  111. NEConservative Says:

    like we didn’t already know this, from Ace of Spades:

    Politico Buries the Lede
    As a preamble, I noticed yesterday (off the site) that the Obama Administration is candid with the press while being deceptive to the public. For example, they were practically bragging that they were engineering a silly distraction in their campaign against the real cause of the financial meltdown– Rush Limbaugh.

    Would Republicans be so candid to the press admitting this cynical strategy? No, and it’s not because we’re more secretive or dishonest; it’s because we know the press would never stop tearing our asses about it. But the Obama Administration knows the press will handle its cynical campaigning with the proper “context” and “nuance,” and not make a very big deal about it.

    So, Obama is manufacturing a false war with a talk-show host as the US and the world teeters on the edge of insolvency. Ah, well. That’s just good politics, innit it?

    Well, check out this stunning admission by a member of Obama’s inner circle. Buried — buried — at the very end of a Politico piece.

    In the end, Obama believes, forward motion on his agenda matters more than any details.
    “Even if we’re busting the budget, we’ve got to solve some of these problems,” said a member of his inner circle. “I’d rather live with a debt than have people go without health care.”

    Well! That’s a pretty major confession — that despite his protestations, fixing the economy is not Obama’s top priority. Advancing his ideological agenda is. And if that conflicts with the need to avert an economic catastrophe — oh well, can’t make an omelet, etc.

    This isn’t the first such admission the press has yawned at. Rahm Emmanuel announced his desire to use a legitimate crisis as pretext to advance an ideological agenda when he remarked one must ” never let a crisis go to waste.”

    But the press yawns.

    The Obamanauts have no care or concern about making these breath-halting admissions because they know the press is of a like mind and therefore sees no fault in them.

    Now, to get off the press-bashing angle and get to actual policy:

    Obama’s man just admitted he doesn’t care if he bankrupts the country as long as he gets health care.

    That seems a rather important fact, doesn’t it? It’s useful context for evaluating Obama’s various claims about what is necessary to supposedly save the economy, isn’t it?

    Posted by Ace at 01:20 PM New Comments Thingy

  112. NEConservative Says:

    from yesterday on nro’s the corner:

    Big PhRMA Loves Obama’s Plan [David Freddoso]

    President Obama engaged in some theater over the weekend, giving Americans the impression that he’s changing the way Washington works, no matter what the lobbyists and special interests say. He framed himself as a brave figure fighting a difficult fight against entrenched enemies of the people.

    That’s quite audacious, but also sadly untrue. The lobbyists and special interests are salivating over President Obama’s bloated multi-trillion dollar budget proposal, and they’re also pretty excited about Obama’s plans for health care. They like the idea of getting a piece of the pie — of your pie.

    Don’t take my word for it. Instead, for just one example, listen to former Republican Rep. Billy Tauzin, who is now president and CEO of PhRMA, the pharmaceutical industry’s top lobbying and trade group. This morning, he told CNBC’s Mike Huckman that big Pharma is very optimistic about an expansion of government’s role in health care per Obama’s health insurance plan. He and the corporations he represents are drooling at getting a piece of the $600 billion pie that taxpayers will soon be offering them, every penny of which will be financed through borrowing.

    Here is an excerpt from the interview, in which Tauzin chuckled as he waved off investors’ fears over the Obama health care plan:

    Tauzin: By and large, think about what this plan does. This plan talks about providing comprehensive health insurance to people who don’t have it — that means to patients who can’t take our medicines because they can’t afford it. $650 billion spent to better insure Americans for the products we make. That ought to be a very optimistic and positive message for everyone who is interested in our sector of the economy.

    Mike Huckman: Just to clarify, then, are you saying that if there is some kind of universal health care plan where prescription drugs are more broadly available, and they’re available at a cheaper price, that your sector may make up in higher prescription volume and sales what it might lose on price?

    Tauzin: Oh, absolutely, Mike. Think about this: Almost half of the prescriptions that are written today go unfilled. And they’re unfilled primarily because people don’t have adequate insurance — they have no insurance, or their insurance doesn’t cover our products the way it covers hospitalizations…We’re going to quarrel over price controls…but we also believe more people ought to have good insurance.

    Even if you believe that the benefits outweigh the costs of this enormous corporate welfare package, please recognize it for what it really is. The potential special-interest benefit to this single industry is many, many times greater than all of Haliburton’s profits in Iraq — greater, in fact, than all of our spending in Iraq to this date. And that is just one example among many of how entrenched “special interests” in Washington will benefit mightily from Obama’s agenda, always at your expense.

    03/04 12:15 PM

  113. rosettasister Says:

    NEConservative Says:
    March 5, 2009 at 8:42 pm


    Thanks, here’s the link:

    Politico Buries the Lede

  114. JAC Says:

    That woman Monique?,….. I wish she would back off a little… she talks some good points, but she tries to control the call….

    I had someone ask me about the antibiotics for a emergency kit..she interrupted and I never even got to respond…..

    tablet Tetracycline, use for aquatic fish, is safe for human consumption.. as well as other Vet/livestock supplies ..and no need for prescription…
    so good knowledge to have in our current situation…

  115. JAC Says:

    Hmmmm from WND

  116. NEConservative Says:


    Re: Dear Lord, a dead baby… [Lisa Schiffren]

    Jonah: That AP story about the teen who went in for an abortion at 23 weeks, whose baby survived the induced delivery that was supposed to kill it, is, of course, disgusting. The image of a girl, alone, going into drug-induced labor, the doctor a no show (two hours late?), the abortion clinic owner rushing in, seeing that the baby was born alive, and throwing it in the trash to die is horrific and violates our sense of humanity and morality. If there is a hell, the owner is headed there.

    But… But how does the young non-mother have standing to sue? She came to the clinic to have the baby removed from her body and destroyed. The baby was removed and destroyed. What’s the actual harm to her? She didn’t like the method? The issue seems to be that she was forced to witness the ordeal that was a direct, if messy, consequence of the procedure she requested. Would it have been better to see the baby taken out in parts? Injected with poison and born dead?

    Her lawyer claims she was ambivalent to begin with. Sure. But so what? She made her decision. Her lawyer responds, “She came face to face with a human being. And that changed everything.” While that is emotionally plausible — even likely — again, so what? She was aborting the baby precisely because it was a human being which, she says, she was not mature enough to care for. What was it she thought would happen?

    To be sure, one is happy to see that people, and courts, recognize the terrible behavior involved — (behavior that our president voted in favor of in the infamous Illinois “Born Alive” act). Even the local head of NOW seems to feel disgust at this outcome. “It really disturbed me,” said Joanne Sterner, president of the Broward County chapter of the National Organization for Women, after reviewing the administrative complaint against Renelique (the doctor). “I know that there are clinics out there like this. And I hope that we can keep (women) from going to these types of clinics.”

    Because what happens in other abortion clinics is substantively different? And, for the record, there are plenty of sleazy, highly profitable abortions mills, staffed by doctors of dubious quality and practice, precisely because NOW and the abortion lobby have been extremely successful in making sure that this area of medicine is significantly less regulated than pretty much all others, lest someone who wants one not have easy access.

    03/04 07:03 PM

  117. rosettasister Says:

    Please wake up, America!


    Obama thinks doing everything at once is good: Here’s why

    Obama’s Dishonesty

  118. Tenacity Says:

    That gal is not alone in trying to control the calls. When Tim talks, people listen. When the gal you mentioned talks, its usually over somebody else. My question is; why isn’t Doc V on these calls for the last 2 weeks? I want to know when he is going to be on. Tim is worth speaking to, but the calls are much, much better with Doc V.

  119. calli Says:

    I am so sorry if I offended you or your gang!! It was never my intention!! I have my reasons for those comments!! I will leave it at that!!
    I have no one to defend me here!!!
    I think what they all were trying to tell me that I was unstable, uneducated or probably just don’t fit in!! It was so hurtful that I burst into tears!! That’s okay!! God knows what is in my heart !!!
    Again I am sorry!! I do have respect for you and your site!! It is obvious that I don’t fit in!! Not to worry I will not be posting here anymore!!! Good luck to you with everything you do!!!

  120. JAC Says:


    on the abortion story,…..
    she was basically told what she carried was not not human and basically nothing but a ball of tissue…..why the shock to the Mother when it was indeed a human, living baby….

    That is part of the problem.
    Pro choice has wanted to keep woman in the dark about exactly what they are carrying…that even as to little as 3 weeks gestation the unborn has a beating heart and fundamental brain and nerves..
    The choice should be an educated one, with all the facts and not misinformation..

    If anything, this story should be a poster child to the misinformation there is to the procedure. Being completely informed, like any medical procedure should be the rule….

  121. sba1872 Says:

    Judge Roberts, in the nastiest, snarkiest, most insulting opinion I have ever read, has dismissed Phil Berg’s Hollister v. Soetoro suit. The Judge has also issued a show-cause order relating to sanctions against the local D.C. attorney involved.

  122. rosettasister Says:

    calli Says:
    March 5, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    It was so hurtful that I burst into tears!!


    Sorry about that, calli.

    You are welcome to post here.

    I know you’ve had your suspicions about me.

    Most everyone here knows that I consider myself a centrist.

    I did vote for Gore in 2000 after all.

    But I became increasingly disgusted with the left after September 11th.

    I find it very ironic that lefties like George Clooney want us to remove Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir from power.

    Doesn’t he realize that he and his ilk have made that an almost impossible task?!

    Do Clooney and Damon get to decide when armed force is just and necessary?

    These idiots haven’t a clue the damage they’ve inflicted on the world’s only superpower.

    Not so super anymore, thanks to them.

    calli, I really haven’t anything to hide.

    so do what you must, but honestly you don’t offend me.

    some here came to my defense, and if you knew more about me, you’d understand why I appreciate very much their efforts on my behalf.

    let’s just say that somewhere in my past I believe that some should have come to my defense that didn’t.

    but you don’t bother me, calli.


  123. susiezen Says:

    Calli if you look a little further you will see I spent much time early am speaking on your behalf, if not for you but for all of us so that we feel free to post without worry. I did not see intentional harm coming from you toward rose….look, as rose said, we all have so much work to do, we are making a difference, we need to continue on. obama is the enemy, not us

  124. carribeansoul Says:

    Well, something else to pizzz us off today! From obamacrimes–

    This case, if it were allowed to proceed, would deserve mention in one of those books that seek to prove that the law is foolish or that America has too many lawyers with not enough to do. Even in its relatively short life the case has excited the blogosphere and the conspiracy theorists. The right thing to do is to bring it to an early end.

    Plaintiff has not cited a single case that lends even colorable support to the notion that his alleged “duties” can be
    the “money or property” to which the interpleader statute applies…. This suit will accordingly be dismissed.

    Because it appears that the complaint in this case may have been presented for an improper purpose such as to harass; and that theinterpleader claims and other legal contentions of plaintiff are not warranted by existing law or by non-frivolous arguments for extending, modifying or reversing existing law or for establishing new law, the accompanying order of dismissal
    requires Mr. Hemenway to show cause why he has not violated Rules 11(b)(1) and 11(b)(2) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, and why he should not be required to pay reasonable attorneys fees and other expenses to counsel for the defendants.

    So, another case dismissed. And this time the judge is considering sanctioning the lawyer for even bringing it up! We’re doomed! 😦

  125. jrh Says:

    sba1782, I haven’t been to obamacrimes yet so is that post about the judge deciding the Hollister case for real? If so, that’s got to be the foulest decision I’ve ever read!

  126. carribeansoul Says:

    oops..sorry for the double post sba! I promise I refreshed before I posted this! 🙂

    Outside of the biased uninformed opinion this judge has written, what scares me more is that all others will use this as precedent!

  127. susiezen Says:

    Ten, I thank you for your words, and I understand your wisdom and maturity in this matter. its not for me to invoke anymore opinion. Lets continue on and kick some liberal as*.
    This is the first time in a while that I can join at this time of day, instead of 3 am…dang it gets lonely during those wee hours. but uninterupted I gain so much knowledge from all the research you all kick up!!

    Is there any truth, or mere speculation that Obama is preparing for a definite date with MARTIAL LAW this summer.
    On our local New Hampshire radio station, broadcast sometimes from UNH, there has been abuzz about an intentional act of internal aggression causing obama to unessasarly instill or provoke martial law.
    Meaning that a staged or planned chaos will occur.
    This might be what Biden was talking about when he opened his trap. that we would not like the way obama would handle an upcoming crisis.
    after creating this economic disaster then intentionally pouring gas on it to make it worse, now all obama needs is a staged act of discourse to whack the final nail in the coffin of our constitution!!!!!!!!

  128. JAC Says:


    If you dumpster dive in some of the unsavory sites . you will notice a trend if you pay attention….. many mention July as very possible for a “crisis” to happen…. But I have also came across the end of April quite often… Do they know something we don’t?…. not sure, but it feels like the stink is getting stronger in the air……

    I am actually proud of our citizens,… I thought a few things that have happen would push some buttons and someone would show a form of resistance……

    Now is not the time, if there ever will be a time… They have the upper hand…. we are unorganized and it would be a serious mistake..
    Legal, legal, legal first….. then possible boycott… anything else if we are forced into the worst case…..

  129. hockeyfan530 Says:

    I had a thought driving home from work.

    We all know that even if barry’s “BC” he posted is not sufficient to prove that he was born in Hawaii. Even IF it weren’t forged it doesn’t prove barry was born in Hawaii.

    So has anyone posted a COB or COLB, like barry’s, from the state of Hawaii that was born in another country? Obots always point to the fact that what barry posted is sufficient proof he was born in Hawaii. If there is someone that was born in say China and has the exact same document as barry provided it would stop their arguement dead in it’s tracks. Logic of course being is that we have a person that was born in China with the exact same document. Obviously it’s not proof of birth in Hawaii. How can i get one or is there one posted on the internet. Maybe barry’s sister that was born in Indonesia.

    I’ll do some searching but if someone knows if one was posted or someone that was born elsewhere that has one please let me know


  130. hockeyfan530 Says:

    by the by. My thought on the above post is that we can shut up the obots using the “he already posted his “BC”” and we can send it to every single rep telling them not so fast, cnn idiot and whoever else uses this weak arguement that barry already provided his “BC”. Here’s the same document for someone that was born in oh, let’s say, Lichtenstein.

  131. JAC Says:

    Hmmm just got this email from my Rep

    Dear Friend,
    As a former law enforcement officer and life-long hunter, I value our Constitutional right to keep and bear arms. Gun ownership and hunting is a way of life for people here in Indiana; a tradition passed down from generation to generation. We must ensure that this way of life is preserved for our children, grandchildren, and future generations of Americans. So last week, I joined a new, bipartisan group dedicated to protecting our Second Amendment rights in Congress.

    The Second Amendment Task Force was created to monitor legislation in Congress related to the Second Amendment. The bipartisan group, which consists of 6 Democrats and 6 Republicans, will work to promote legislation that protects the Second Amendment and fight any bill that threatens our Constitutional right to keep and bear arms.

    We took action this week; making it clear to Attorney General Eric Holder that any attempts to reinstate a ban on assault weapons would be met with fierce, bipartisan resistance in Congress.

    I am proud of the A rating I received from the National Rifle Association, and I will continue to protect our Second Amendment rights by opposing any attempts to restrict the rights of law-abiding gun owners.

    Brad Ellsworth

  132. sba1872 Says:


    I linked the opinion from the USDC District of Columbia, not from Obamacrimes. That IS Robertson’s opinion.

  133. jrh Says:

    sba, thanks. I guess I was hoping this was bogus so I wouldn’t get spitting mad that a judge would write something that insulting. So now I’m spitting mad. That’s probably the end of the road for Phil. I believe his so called ‘sealed’ case was also in that court so we can assume we know that outcome now too.

  134. calli Says:

    Thank you for that!! I have made comments before stating how intelligent everyone who post here was!! When I read those comments it hurt!! I had my cry so I am over it!! That is why I said I wouldn’t post here anymore!! I wish I were as intelligent as everyone else here but it doesn’t make me unstable!! I am glad they defended you!! It shows me they care for you!! For the record George Clooney is an overrated and overpaid actor!!!!

  135. rosettasister Says:

    calli Says:
    March 5, 2009 at 11:17 pm

    I wish I were as intelligent as everyone else here but it doesn’t make me unstable!!


    well, you would know more about that than I would!

    my husband would tell you that sometimes he finds me unstable.

    but most of the time I’m stable, and he still loves me in spite of it all.

    but I agree with you about the IQ of the posters here.

    keeps me on my toes!


  136. JAC Says:

    sba, jhr, Hockey, and calli

    just wanted to say hi 🙂

    busy gathering info for my meeting Sunday… so just popping in and out…..

  137. JAC Says:


    lol ……..IQ 134

    hubby sometimes claims I think with my heart instead of my head

    btw….. I asked earlier…… are you born under the sign of Libra??

  138. sba1872 Says:

    Hey, Calli,

    Sometimes we’re not so “intelligent”. Sometimes we’re downright silly. But we do tend to get a bit protective of our kind hostess here. Rose has provided a space for many of us to communicate, gather information, spew ideas, rant, chat, and sometimes (usually late at night, when we think no one’s watching), to have limerick contests. We are grateful to Rose for all the links she provides with information as well as musical interludes. She has never once bullied anyone, though she has the right to do so if she wishes, nor has she ever spoken to any commenter in an unkind manner. That’s probably why if there is a perceived insult to her, there is an instant reaction from regular commenters to defend her. I’m sorry your feelings were hurt, if you didn’t mean to insult our hostess, but I appreciate the reminder that Rosetta Gang Rocks because Rose sets the tone for honest, open discussion without judgment, and a little levity here and there. Thanks, Rose! You DO ROCK!!

    P.S. I still miss our regular cheerleader, Foxtrot.

  139. JAC Says:

    There once was a guy name Bammy
    his hands was always clammy
    he sputed his lies
    but half was wise, to his currupt little ties
    we can’t wait until he’s tossed on his fanny

  140. Tenacity Says:

    Donofrio on Plains in a minute or so.

  141. Tenacity Says:

    susiezen Says:
    March 5, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    …………. Lets continue on and kick some liberal as*.
    Amen Sister Zen!

    Donofrio posting something new and important on his site. He will be on Plains Radio in a few minutes.

  142. Tenacity Says:

    When you go to Leo’s site
    scroll down to Part 2

  143. Tenacity Says:

    If the Congress was either too gutless or too corrupted to challenge the thief in chief on January 8th, what makes Leo believe they will challenge him now?

  144. JAC Says:

    listening to Leo …..

  145. JAC Says:


    Well, some are very upset with his administation… so it gives it a thread hair of chance….1 in a 1000

  146. rosettasister Says:

    Cindy, my sun sign is Cancer.

    Good night, good people!

    I only sing opera when I’m home alone with my kitty!

    So no one else can hear me!

    New Thread:

  147. Tenacity Says:

    A publicity campaign is a good idea. If nothing else, it will make some very disgruntled people aware that there is a solution to some extent.

  148. KoolAid_Free_Lexi Says:

    Troy Says:

    March 5, 2009 at 4:29 pm
    sometimes I even allow myself to believe that we’re actually making a difference.
    Rose, I think we do make a difference…..Often people chime in and tell us that they follow the blog and commend us on how much good information that we provide them….It makes it all worth while for me.


    Remember? *been lurking for around a half a year*

    There are still links pulled from here, saved in my favs that haven’t gotten to yet. But if I never do get to them, I have been inspired many times to add my voice with those who protest our corrupt “leaders”, or to educate others due to information shared here.

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