US promises Poland Patriot missiles

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The US secretary of defense has given assurances that Poland will receive defense aid

http://www.wbj.pl/article-44529-us-promises-poland-patriot-missiles.html?typ=wbj

American Defense Secretary Robert Gates told Rzeczpospolita that if the threat from Iran disappeared there would be no need to base an anti-missile shield in Central Europe. This is another signal from Washington that if Russia puts pressure on Iran, then the US could withdraw from the shield.

The defense secretary said during the NATO summit in Kraków that the USA needs time to reach a final decision over the shield. Robert Gates is the only member of George Bush’s staff who kept his post after Barack Obama became president.

In Gates’ opinion the new administration stands better chances of convincing Russia to its point of view. Washington’s representative claimed that even if the US resigned from its shield plans in Poland, it would keep its promise to base Patriot missiles here.

“Within the next few weeks consultation teams for strategic cooperation will hold joint meetings,” said Gates. The main topic of the two-day NATO defense summit in Kraków was the mission in Afghanistan.

Lease Termination Complicates International Effort in Afghanistan

http://newsblaze.com/story/20090222072345stat.nb/topstory.html

Manas is important,” Gates said, “but it is not irreplaceable.”

From DODvClips

February 20, 2009

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Patriot Missile Battery On Watch

101 Responses to “US promises Poland Patriot missiles”

  1. ddlew2 Says:

    1st

  2. rosettasister Says:

    Three-book deal for Condoleezza Rice

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/22/AR2009022201508.html

    Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has agreed to a three-book deal with Crown Publishers, starting with a memoir about her years in the administration of President George W. Bush.

    “Rice will combine candid narrative and acute analysis to tell the story of her time in the White House and as America’s top diplomat, and her role in protecting American security and shaping foreign policy during the extraordinary period from 2001-2009,” according to a statement issued Sunday by Crown, a division of Random House Inc. Crown also published then-Sen. Barack Obama’s “The Audacity of Hope.”

    Rice’s book is planned for 2011.

  3. rosettasister Says:

    Senator questions Obama eligibility

    Shelby: ‘They said he was born in Hawaii, but I haven’t seen any birth certificate’

    http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=89704

  4. CADY Says:

    HI IS THIS THE NEW POST

  5. CADY Says:

    I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO TOOK THE TIME TO READ ABOUT THE VAMPIRE KILLERS HOPEFULLY SOMEONE WILL FIND SOME UPDATED INFO ON THIS MATTER , I AM GLAD PEOPLE ON THIS SITE LIKE TO INVESTAGATE . I SURE DO LEARN A LOT ON THIS SITE . SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF GREAT PEOPLE

  6. rosettasister Says:

    Hi, Cady!

    You found us!

  7. rosettasister Says:

    Perhaps Obama isn’t the messiah after all!

    “Red Flags in Credit Markets”

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123540629896048789.html

  8. JAC Says:

    Welcome Cady

  9. Troy Says:

    CADY Says:

    February 23, 2009 at 5:34 pm
    TENACITY I READ YOUR POST . YOU WERE ABLE TO TALK TO SOME ONE WHO KNOWS WHO WROTE THE VAMPIRE KILLER . DOES HE STILL KNOW IF THIS IS STILL THE PROTACOLL FOR THE MILATARY AND POLICE AND IF THERE HAS BEEN ANY UPDATES ON THIS .

  10. NEConservative Says:

    That figures!! Rush on just now. He said that the ‘so-called mortgage crisis’ really only involves JUST 5 STATES. These are the states, along with the percentage of the mortgages in these states that are underwater:
    1. Nevada 48%
    2. Kalifornia 27%
    3. Arizona 29%
    4. Michigan 38.6%
    5. Florida 29.2%

    Obama wants us in the other 52 states (I know) to subsidize the dumba$$e$ in those 5!!

  11. rosettasister Says:

    February 23rd, 2009

    Some Reflections in the Times of Hysteria

    http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/some-reflections-in-the-times-of-hysteria/

    EXCERPT

    Not Quite a Depression, After all

    Another sobering thought. Over 92% of Americans are still at work. Over 90% are still servicing their mortgage debts each month. For these, the “depression” so far doesn’t mean a radical need to reinvent America. They plan to stay in their homes, even if they have negative equity in them; again, loss of equity doesn’t mean catastrophe if they don’t have to sell quickly, refinance, or remodel.

    Ditto 401(k)s. If you are retired—terrible. If you are nearing retirement as many of us are—worrisome. But for those under 50, who still put away pre-tax dollars each month, there is a weird sort of solace. I have friends in their 40s who say they won’t pull anything out for a quarter-century, and would prefer to buy stocks and mutual funds now at rock-bottom prices, rather than as was true in 2005 or 2006 at the peak of the market. Quite logical—if the entire market doesn’t go belly up.

    Meanwhile, gas, food, cars, houses, and consumer goods fall in price, a tremendous benefit for those still working, and one that translates in a rise in the purchasing power of their incomes.

    Good morning/afternoon!

    bbl

  12. NEConservative Says:

    Those 5 states also, according to Rush, have high #’s of illegals (possibly not MI). Are we going to be subsidizing ILLEGAL immigrant’s failing mortgages???

  13. CADY Says:

    I found this video on poleski says in private admitts to martial law

    hi Jac to you to

  14. JAC Says:

    They are cutting tree limbs today…… and my internet is shakey….. like always I think one of the idiots knocked a line loose…….. happens every time

  15. rosettasister Says:

    Have to run, but this seemed important:

    Found here:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2191496/posts

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2191496/posts?q=1&;page=51#62

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2191496/posts?q=1&;page=51#69

    To: BP2; LucyT; Iowan; little jeremiah; Fred Nerks; Calpernia

    I’ve also discussed the statutes before, but what has driven me BONKERS is that Hawaii’s DOH produces what is called a “Letter of Verification.” This Letter contains the same data fields as those on a COLB, and a verification request for Obama WOULD have been issued if someone had simply made the effort.

    Now, There is a HUGE difference between requesting a certified copy of the vault birth certificate, a certified copy of a COLB, and an uncertified Letter of Verification. It’s right there in the same Hawaii Statue 338 for everyone to read.

    I have been telling people until I was blue in the face, to “REQUEST THE FREAKIN’ LETTER OF VERIFICATION,” but it just did not sink into anyone’s brain, not Berg, not Taitz, not Donofrio, not Martin, not Corsi, not anyone.

    When Directors Chiyome Fukino and Alan Onaka gave their little dog-and-pony show for the media on 10/31, saying that “Hawaii had Obama’s original birth certificate,” Fukino also said the MAGIC WORD that everybody totally missed.

    Here are her comments as they appeared in the now-scrubbed article by Dan Nakaso of the Honolulu Advertiser:

    “There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate,” Fukino said in the statement. “State law (Hawai’i Revised Statutes ¤338-18) prohibits the release of a

    certified birth certificate

    to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record…”

    The Magic Word is CERTIFIED. Letters of Verification are NOT CERTIFIED, which is why someone other than Obama or a family member could have easily ordered one (like a social organization, or a business, or a school, or a publisher).

    §338-18 Disclosure of records.

    (b) The department shall not permit inspection of public health statistics records, or issue a CERTIFIED COPY of any such record or part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant has a direct and tangible interest in the record.

    Although the person or group ordering the Letter of Verification still needs to have a “tangible interest,” can there be anything more “tangible” than needing to validate Obama’s claim that he was born in Hawaii to Stanley Dunham and Barack Obama Sr??

    BUT….in reality (and to paraphrase the Bandito) “We don’t need no stinking CERTIFICATION” to show that what Obama posted online does not contain the same birth information that would be shown in a Letter of Verification.

    That is the whole point of requesting one.

    Paragraph (b) above only applies the “tangible interest” criteria to the Letter of Verification. The list of people who can get a Letter, however, is quite lengthy and nowhere near as stringently defined as per requesting a certified copy.

    In the same statute, 338, Paragraph 13 (g) says the following:

    The department shall not issue a verification in lieu of a certified copy of any such record, or any part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant requesting a verification is:

    (1) A person who has a direct and tangible interest in the record but requests a verification in lieu of a certified copy;

    (2) A governmental agency or organization who for a legitimate government purpose maintains and needs to update official lists of persons in the ordinary course of the agency’s or organization’s activities;

    (3) A governmental, private, social, or educational agency or organization who seeks confirmation of a certified copy of any such record submitted in support of or information provided about a vital event relating to any such record and contained in an official application made in the ordinary course of the agency’s or organization’s activities by an individual seeking employment with, entrance to, or the services or products of the agency or organization;

    (4) A private or government attorney who seeks to confirm information about a vital event relating to any such record which was acquired during the course of or for purposes of legal proceedings; or

    (5) An individual employed, endorsed, or sponsored by a governmental, private, social, or educational agency or organization who seeks to confirm information about a vital event relating to any such record in preparation of reports or publications by the agency or organization for research or educational purposes.

    Is it beginning to sink in yet just how many different individuals or groups could have easily obtained a Letter of Verification for Obama?

    You know what? They still can, and Hawaii’s DOH can be sued if they refuse to do so. Hawaii would have a tough sell claiming that a Letter of Verification is protected by Privacy Laws when the COLB that was posted online made all of its data fields a part of the public record since June 2008. A Letter of Verification prints the exact, same data fields as does the COLB. The only things missing from it are the certification elements, namely the Seal and Registrar’s stamp.

    Maybe Alan Keyes would try to order one, or a government official. A head of a non-profit social service agency, or a church, could try.

    The only way to determine if it is possible, is for someone to do it, and then, if Hawaii’s DOH balks, sue them for violating Hawaii statute 338-13(g).

    69 posted on Monday, February 23, 2009 7:22:27 AM by Polarik

  16. Tenacity Says:

    CADY Says:
    February 23, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    TENACITY I READ YOUR POST . YOU WERE ABLE TO TALK TO SOME ONE WHO KNOWS WHO WROTE THE VAMPIRE KILLER . DOES HE STILL KNOW IF THIS IS STILL THE PROTOCOL FOR THE MILITARY AND POLICE AND IF THERE HAS BEEN ANY UPDATES ON THIS .
    *********************
    To call the works of Aid & Abet “protocol” would be misleading. The truth is that those in uniform will divide on this issue. There are those that get paid to follow orders and simply don’t care about anything else. These people will kill you in a heartbeat. The fact that Aid & Abet has disseminated this information is encouraging, but by no means represents any kind of protocol. Even people that have trained with Mclamb will divide when the time comes. You must assume that protocol for those knocking on your door is to follow the orders of those oppressing you. Make no mistake, they will take your guns, your rights and your life, if in the line of duty (in their perception).

    For more information go here: http://www.jackmclamb.org/

  17. NEConservative Says:

    Didn’t know if anyone had seen this:

    WE, THE PEOPLE v PRESIDENT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA!!!
    Ms. Cris Ericson, 879 Church Street, Chester, Vermont U.S.A. 08 Feb 2009 08:47 GMT

    WE, THE PEOPLE v PRESIDENT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA! President Barack Hussein Obama has not given full disclosure of the material facts of where he was born, and if he is really a natural born citizen qualified to hold Office.
    FEBRUARY 8, 2009

    WE, THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA v President Barack Hussein Obama, seek material facts which he has a duty to disclose to determine if he really is a natural born citizen ,and if he is really qualified to hold the Office of President of the United States of America.

    President Barack Hussein Obama has nominated several politicians who recently admitted that they were not qualified for the nominations because they had committed wrongful acts.

    The quality of the people who President Obama nominates are closely related to the type of person he is; and the people he nominates reflect, just like a mirror, that he may be no more trustworthy than the people he nominates.

    Because President Barack Hussein Obama has nominated people for top positions in his administration, who voluntarily decided to decline the nominations when records of their past wrongful behaviour were revealed after they were nominated, we must now undertake a more careful scrutiny of President Barack Hussein Obama’s actual qualifications to be President of the United States of America, because the people who nominated him may not have been any more trustworthy than the untrustworthy people he nominated.

    Because President Barack Hussein Obama nominated people who turned out to be untrustworthy, we may want to investigate him because the people who nominated him may also be equally untrustworthy.

    While campaigning, Barack Hussein Obama released a “Certification of Live Birth” on the internet. He alleged that this was all the information that people needed to be certain that he is a natural born citizen, which is required to be President of the United States of America.

    It is not true that a “Certification of Live Birth” gives all of the information necessary to prove a person is a natural born citizen.

    On the Certification of Live Birth” which Barack Hussein Obama issued during his campaign, instead of a regular long form birth certificate, there are three legal notices:

    (1) Date of Birth August 4, 1961 and Date filed with Registrar August 8, 1961. This alleges that there were four days between the date of birth and the date the birth was reported. Where was Barack Hussein Obama’s mother during those four days? What was she doing during those four days? There is no name of any doctor. There is no name of any midwife. There is no name of any hospital. There is no name of any ship or boat or ocean liner that he may have been born on. If he was born at sea, it is important to know if he was born in international waters, or in waters within the borders of the United States of America. Was he born in a Taxi Cab on the way to the hospital? Was he born in a house or in an apartment or on a farm or in a barn? Because he refuses to tell us, he wants us to think he is “the One”. He wants to be so mysterious so that some people may come to the conclusion that he may have been born in a manger.

    On the “Certification of Live Birth” that Barack Hussein Obama issued during his political campaign in 2008, instead of a regular, normal long form birth certificate, there is another legal notice:

    (Rev. 11/01) LASER

    This legal notice of 11/01 means November 2001 and that means that Barack Hussein Obama did not receive this “Certification of Live Birth” (rather than a normal long form birth certificate) until after he was over 40 years old, and after the terrorist attack on the United States of America on September 11, 2001. Why did Barack Hussein Obama receive a “Certification of Live Birth: (rather than a long form birth certicate) in November 2001 (Rev. 11/01) after 9/11?

    The third legal notice on the “Certification of Live Birth” (rather than a long form birth certificate) of Barack Hussein Obama states:

    [HRS 338-13(b), 338-19]

    HRS are Hawaii Revised Statutes http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov Click on Hawaii Revised Statutes on the right of the Hawaii State government website.

    HRS 338-19 is for certificates based on information that is so old or otherwise in such condition that its use to certify is subject to judicial oversight.

    HRS 338-13(b) is subject to the requirements of HRS 338-16, HRS 338-17 and HRS 338-18 and these are statutes that are for birth certificates given to a person born in a foreign country, and for birth certificates that have been altered, and for birth certificates that have had the facts changed, and these statutes allow the original birth certificate to be sealed and a new one issued. These statutes allow for judicial proceedings to determine if the actual facts are correct so that the “Certification of Live Birth” may be protested in court because it may be fraudulent.

    In the following court case cite there is proof that the people have a right to take the issue of the material facts of President Barack Hussein Obama’s birth and birth place and proof of his biological parents to court for a judicial determination if he is a natural born citizen:

    “District Court did not abuse its discretion in applying Federal Rules of Evidence rather than Hawaii Health Department Rules in finding results of intoxilizer test admissible under public records and reports exception to hearsay rule of Rule 803(6)(8). United States v De Water (1998, CA9 HAWAII) 846 F 2d 528, 25 Fed Rules Evid Serv 748.”

    There have been other previous cases filed in state and federal courts to try to prove that Barack Hussein Obama is not a natural born citizen and is not qualified to hold the Office of President of the United States of America; and they have been dismissed.

    This NEW legal proposal presents a different jurisdiction, a different legal standing and a different cause of action, and a different proof of legal duty. For more information about this NEW proposal please visit

    http://crisericson.com Cris Ericson PROPOSED CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT AGAINST PRESIDENT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA FOR ALLEGED FRAUDULENT CONCEALMENT OF MATERIAL FACTS HE HAS A DUTY TO REVEAL.

    e-mail:: crisericson@yahoo.com homepage:: http://crisericson.com

  18. NEConservative Says:

    Cris Ericson’s comments on loyaltoliberty.com (Alan Keyes’ site):

    Hi! I am an independent candidate in Vermont and I was on the ballot for Governor and for U.S. House in 2008 and I was excluded from most debates and forums. My ballot access petition signatures were certified July 7, 2008. Meanwhile, another independent candidate was allowed to participate in debates and forums even though his petition was not certified until September, to be on the 2008 ballot for governor. During the campaign season for U.S. House, Peter Welch, who was on the ballot as Democrat/Republican, was repeatedly announced in the news as running un-opposed, even though there were five candidates running against him, including myself. Please take the time to read my website about some of the abuse I suffered. I also would like you to know that I agree with you 100% that Obama may not be a natural born citizen. Please read some of what I have written about that subject if you go to my website and scroll to the bottom and click on, What’s Wrong With Obama? http://crisericson.com

    Cris Ericson

    Also, I would like to tell you about a few case cites that support legal action, particularly because in Obama’s certification of live birth, in teeny, tiny print in the lower right hand corner, it gives a legal notice: [HRS 338-13(b), 338-19] and please go to http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov and on the right click on Hawaii Revised Statutes and read the entire text of each, 338-19 is for certificates based on old documents that of themselves cannot be used to certify, so the statute is contradictory and should be repealed for being unconstitutional. HRS 338-13(b) is subject to the requirements of 338-16, 338-17 and 338-18. If you have trouble finding these, just use search phrases at http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov click on Hawaii Revised Statutes and in the search box use various phrases, “birth certificate”, “certificate of birth”, “certification of live birth” and read the entire text to the very bottom of each one, the legislators expect you to be lazy so they save the good stuff at the bottom, then see the date enacted at the bottom and click the link at the very bottom. This legal notice is like a legal notice on a drivers’ license. If you have a legal notice on a drivers’ license that says “restricted” or indicates a number that means you have to wear eyeglasses or contact lenses, and if you get caught having a traffic accident without your corrective lenses, then you’re in big trouble! A legal notice on a certificate proves that there is a LEGAL DUTY. In this case, the statutes, if you read all of them, remember, HRS 338-13(b) is subject to the requirements of 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18 and you also have 338-19 in the legal notice IN TEENY TINY FINE PRINT IN THE LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER OF THE CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH OF BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, and these prove that he was either born in a foreign country, and/or his original birth information was altered and changed, AND hearsay evidence may have been used. Now, read Hawaii Rule 803 for hearsay, and read the whole thing, because at the bottom it states that Hawaii Rule 803 for hearsay evidence does NOT meet the standards of federal rules of evidence for hearsay. Now, there is another legal notice on the certification of live birth of BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA: (Rev. 11/01)LASER which proves that he received this certificate, which proves that he may have been either born in a foreign country and/or his birth information was altered and changed and the original sealed and a new certificate issued, remember, READ THE ENTIRE TEXT OF EACH STATUTE, THEY SAY ONE THING IN ONE PARAGRAPH, AND THEN CONTRADICT IN A LOWER PARAGRAPH! Why on Earth did Barack Hussein Obama need a new certificate AFTER THE TERRORIST ATTACK ON THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA? He received this certificate after he was over 40 years old! Now, here’s some case cites to look at:
    “District Court did not abuse its discretion in applying Federal Rules of Evidence rather than Hawaii Health Department rules and in finding results of intoxilizer test admissible under public records and reports exception to hearsay rule of Rule 803(6)(8). United States v De Water (1998, CA9 Hawaii) 846 F2d 528, 25 Fed Rules Evid Serv 748.”
    “Court of Federal Claims lacks jurisdiction to hear claims against states or their agencies, EXCEPT where states or their agencies acted as agents of United States. Hassan v United States (1998) 41 Fed Cl 149.
    Now, clearly, the Hawaii Health Department, in certifying Barack Obama, acted as the agency of the United States Congress and the Electoral College and former Vice President Dick Cheney.
    Now, re-read, the entire text, of the applicable Hawaii Revised Statutes and you will see that they give a person a right to call for an administrative or judicial hearing to determine if THE FACTS ON THE CERTIFICATE ARE IN ERROR.

  19. Tenacity Says:

    Well, if you believe the government isn’t playing hardball, you better wake up. I just spoke to the Aid & Abet office in Idaho. Their webmaster has been jailed on trumped up charges. I was trying to get an order form for the newsletter and found that the link didn’t work. I now have someone else to call and will let you know for those that are interested. I am also getting an update on the young IP guys case status from his mother and will pass that on as well.

  20. Troy Says:

    Tenacity Says:

    February 23, 2009 at 7:17 pm
    Well, if you believe the government isn’t playing hardball, you better wake up. I just spoke to the Aid & Abet office in Idaho. Their webmaster has been jailed on trumped up charges. I was trying to get an order form for the newsletter and found that the link didn’t work. I now have someone else to call and will let you know for those that are interested. I am also getting an update on the young IP guys case status from his mother and will pass that on as well.
    ********************************************
    Ten, as per Dr. V, this fellow that you mention here may be the perfect person to have STANDING to challenge whether Obama is legally the US Pres or a usurper…..Do you know how to get in touch with Dr.V?…..If this guy was arrested under any kind of law or legislation that Obama signed off on then this fellow has a chance to expose Obama, according to Dr. V.
    If that is the situation, then I’m sure that Orly or one of the other attorneys, that have pursued cases to prove eligibility, would be happy to represent this person, probably pro bono.

  21. JAC Says:

    Ten.
    I just read on Larry’s site that a blogger who had their own blog ….they closed it down because of harrassment….

    He is making direct hits….. so we need to band together…… neighbor watch out for neighbor..

  22. JAC Says:

    Larry,

    Thanks for giving some space here to carry my blog, but I have deleted it for reasons I cannot get into right now. Let’s just say that I have seen a very dark and sinister side of the Obama cult which surpassed even my wildest dreams. I don’t have the stomach to deal with this stuff, and I am amazed at your fortitude and resiliance in the face of this. Surely you must be getting it a lot worse than mere outsiders like me who
    are attempting to cover the story. I don’t know what’s going on, and I don’t know if Obama is a mere pawn in a bigger scheme, but there are very dark and sinister forces at play in our government today. Why is little Larry Sinclair such a threat to them? I don’t know. I just don’t know. But good luck to you Larry.
    February 23, 2009 10:58 AM

    Gianni is right in their assessment that I am inundated with attacks, threats, intimidation and harassment. Lame Cherry has repeatedly been victimized by the Obama attack machine and Google, Inc. which has all of its resources into protecting Barack Obama and attacking anyone who questions Obama.

    Google, Inc. the parent company of YouTube, has even to this date allowed the illegal use of copyrighted material by the Obama internet thugs in YouTube videos to continue even after having been provide completed DMCA complaints

  23. Tenacity Says:

    Troy,
    After I get the details, I will give the info to Doc V. Good idea! I will also suggest that the mom contact Taitz.

  24. hockeyfan530 Says:

    from Orly’s site

    To Any and All Interested Parties,

    As an active-duty Officer in the United States Army, I have grave concerns about the constitutional eligibilty of Barack Hussein Obama to hold the Office of President of The United States. He has absolutely refused to provide to the American public his original birth certificate, as well as other documents which may prove or disprove his eligibility. In fact, he has fought every attempt made by concerned citizens in their effort to force him to do so.
    Until Mr. Obama releases a “vault copy” of his original birth certificate for public review, I will consider him neither my Commander in Chief nor my President, but rather, a usurper to the Office – an impostor.
    My conviction is such that I am compelled to join Dr. Orly Taitz’s lawsuit, as a plaintiff, against Mr. Obama. As a citizen, it pains me to do this, but as an Offficer, my sworn oath to support and defend our Constitution requires this action.

    I joined the Army at age 40, after working in Iraq as a contractor with KBR in ’05/’06. I chose to work with KBR to support my troops and then left that lucrative position when the Army raised it’s maximum enlistment age to 40. Upon completion of Basic Training, I entered Officer Candidate School and commissioned as a 2LT in August 2007. After completing the subsequent Basic Officer Leadership courses, I was assigned to Ft. Knox and shortly therafter deployed to Balad, Iraq. I was promoted to 1LT on Feb. 2, 2009 and I have approximately five months remaining of our fifteen month deployment.

    I implore all Service-members and citizens to contact their Senators and Representatives and demand that they require Mr. Obama prove his eligibility. Our Constitution and our great nation must not be allowed to be disgraced.

    Very Respectfull,
    Scott R. Easterling
    1LT OD/LG
    United States Army

  25. rosettasister Says:

    Video: Lauer and Ziegler on Media Malpractice

    http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/23/video-lauer-and-ziegler-on-media-malpractice/

    John Ziegler released his documentary, Media Malpractice, today in fine fashion — by venting his outrage on a bemused Matt Lauer. The interview produced a few fireworks, and Ziegler makes his case in his own inimitable fashion:

    I’ve been looking forward to the release of the documentary since John and I first discussed it on my show. It includes the entire, uncut interview he conducted with Sarah Palin, as well as his own documentary research into the coverage of Barack Obama over the past two years. This may wind up being a whole new genre of publishing, what with Bernard Goldberg’s A Slobbering Love Affair making the same argument.

    As the afterglow of Obama’s inauguration fades and his administration undertakes the task of actual governance, will more of the media start honestly assessing their performance (and lack thereof) during the 2008 presidential campaign? Ziegler and Goldberg have pioneered the effort, but it will take more than this to get the mainstream media to change its ways, or even to admit its biases. In the meantime, we’ll continue to enjoy John’s provocations — more, apparently, than did Matt Lauer, who should at least be commended for inviting John onto the show.

  26. hockeyfan530 Says:

    the army officer above has agreed to be a plaintiff in Orly’s case

  27. JAC Says:

    anyone who wants to yahoo IM me…. I set up a new account..

    indiana2resist

  28. JAC Says:

    Check out this article. It’s about urban warfare training drills taking place all over the country, in preparation for mass civil unrest expected this summer.

    Earlier this month, 150 U.S. troops from the U.S. Special Operations Command were involved in exercises around New Orleans. About 2,200 Marines were starting more than two weeks of urban warfare training in the Richmond area. There have also been operations in Iowa.

    House Resolution 645, the National Emergency Centers Establishment Act, mandates the expansion of FEMA detention camps which would likely be used to detain rioting American citizens.

    The article concludes by stating, “It would be naive to dismiss the notion that the increasing amount of urban warfare drills taking place across the U.S. are not at least partially to prepare troops to undertake law enforcement duties should civil unrest as a consequence of the economic fallout threaten a collapse in social order.

    Since when are U.S. troops to be trained for internal domestic operations? Isn’t that what we have a National Guard for? This sounds more like Nazi Germany than the United States I know and love.

    The complete article can be read here.

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/urban-warfare-drills-linked-to-coming-economic-rage.html

  29. ddlew2 Says:

    JAC,

    That’s because they are coming to get our guns.

  30. Troy Says:

    ddlew2 Says:

    February 23, 2009 at 9:56 pm
    JAC,

    That’s because they are coming to get our guns.
    *******************************************
    “From my cold dead hands”

  31. JAC Says:

    I have an advance storm watcher class tonight….. to renew my state ID for Noah ….

    I’m in the process of setting up a local meeting for next week…. time to get off our duffs and get proactive in the cause

  32. rosettasister Says:

    Some may find the following info useful:

    New Edition of Government Access Guide Available Online to Citizens

    http://www.ombwatch.org/node/9721

    The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press (RCFP) published the tenth edition of the “Federal Open Government Guide” this week. The guide provides resources to assist citizens to better understand and utilize the Freedom of Information Act.

    The new version covers additional laws including the Government in the Sunshine Act (GSA), the Federal Advisory Committee Act (FACA), and the Privacy Act. The GSA is the federal open meetings law concerning agency meetings while the FACA provides a right of access to records and meetings of advisors outside the government Also updated is the section on FOIA which was ammended in late 2007.

    RCFP is selling copies of the guide for $10 or you can use the online version

    http://www.rcfp.org/fogg/

    for free.

    The website guide includes an automated FOIA letter generator that creates requests as well as appeals.

  33. JAC Says:

    BBL~ got to go get ready….

  34. Katie Says:

    Good news! Paying income taxes in America is ‘VOLUNTARY’ – according to Harry Reid!

    IMO, this 4 min. video is proof positive that there’s tampering with votes. Who would elect this idiot??

  35. Troy Says:

    IMO, this 4 min. video is proof positive that there’s tampering with votes. Who would elect this idiot??
    ********************************************
    Let’s not forget Nancy “Skankapotamus” Pelosi….There is no way in HELL she could get voted in again, unless there was vote tampering.

  36. Troy Says:

    The two idiots are the most despised in DC by both DEM and REP voters and yet, there they are still in office….There is only one logical explanation….Vote tampering!!!!

  37. rosettasister Says:

    Standardized-Budget Deficit or Surplus and Related Series, 1980 to 2008

    1980 -2.7
    1981 -2.5
    1982 -3.8
    1983 -5.7
    1984 -4.7
    1985 -5.1
    1986 -5.0
    1987 -3.2
    1988 -3.1
    1989 -2.8

    1990 -3.9
    1991 -4.4
    1992 -4.5
    1993 -3.8
    1994 -2.9
    1995 -2.2
    1996 -1.4
    1997 -0.3
    1998 0.8
    1999 1.4

    2000 2.5
    2001 1.3
    2002 -1.5
    2003 -3.4
    2004 -3.6
    2005 -2.6
    2006 -1.9
    2007 -1.2
    2008 -3.2

    Obama inherited

    2009 -8.3
    (Thanks to Obama and Specter, Snowe and Collins this has already grown to at least -13.5)

    2010 -4.9 (This projected deficit has also ballooned, but I don’t recall the exact number)

    By 2013 Obama says this number will be down to 3.0 percent of GDP.

    So instead of tackling the problem he inherited, he compounded the problem into uncharted territory.

    And now he claims he can turn this around in less than four years when his tax policies are sure to decrease revenues.

    Can’t be done.

    Unless Obama is born-again and turns into a supply-sider overnight.

  38. sliderblaze Says:

    Unless Obama is born-again and turns into a supply-sider overnight.
    ——————————————-
    good idea, maybe then we’ll actually know where he’s from

  39. sliderblaze Says:

    it’s been a slow news day

  40. CJ Says:

    Tenacity: I went to the McLamb site but some of the info is no longer available Is there anywhere else to find the video? Thanks.

  41. Tenacity Says:

    CJ
    I’m checking.

  42. rosettasister Says:

    sliderblaze Says:
    February 23, 2009 at 11:25 pm

    Unless Obama is born-again and turns into a supply-sider overnight.
    ——————————————-
    good idea, maybe then we’ll actually know where he’s from

    ——————

    Good one!

  43. Tenacity Says:

    CJ et al,
    Here is the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmT1IsFXIFg

    Suffice it to say that Jack McLamb and Phil Berg are singing out of the same song book. They both believe that the WTC terrorist acts were state sponsored to scare the public into accepting martial law. This is a tough pill for me to swallow, but today I am ready to believe a lot of things that I would have (and did) shrugged off a few years ago.

  44. LadyTexan Says:

    Tonight:

    ALAN KEYES is the special guest on “The Awakening w/ Hanen & Arlen,” on The Sentinel Radio Network, 2/23 at 8pm ET,,,5pm PT

    http://investigatingobama.blogspot.com/2009/02/alan-keyes-on-awakening-8pm-et5pm-pt.html

  45. Troy Says:

    I saw that video months ago and didn’t know who he was.

  46. Troy Says:

    Wow!!!…I just listened to Alan Keyes on the radio…If he ever runs again he will have my vote!!!

  47. Troy Says:

    How about Keyes in 2012 with Ron Paul as his running mate?

  48. Tenacity Says:

    Bob Schulz on radio right now:
    http://www.gcnlive.com/ListenLive/windowsmedia32Ntwk1.asx

  49. Tenacity Says:

    I thought Keyes was marvelous when he ran in 2000. His popularity has declined since then. I trust his intent and believe he is capable. We all owe him a debt of gratitude for the courage to take on the system.

  50. Katie Says:

    Alan Keyes was well worth listening to tonight, and his parting question can’t be ignored. I’m paraphrasing, but he asked if all these so-called conservatives (Hannity, Beck, Rush, etc.) were REALLY true Conservatives and Americans who lived by the Constitution, why has NOT ONE of them really asked about the eligibility issue?

    IMO, they’re riding the story for the money and prestige and power just like the liberal MSM.

    WHERE ARE ALL THE TRUE PATRIOTS WHO HAVE A VOICE AND A PLATFORM??? HELLO???? ANYONE?

  51. Katie Says:

    Here’s the website they talked about tonight.

    America’s Independent Party National Committee

    http://www.aipnews.com/

  52. JAC Says:

    Ten,
    I’m with you, many things I shrugged or laughed off a short time ago. I am will to listen to with an open mind.
    Not saying I take everything as fact…… but I listen. The world is too topsy turvy to plant your feet.

  53. Tenacity Says:

    FYI: I am meeting some of the brightest and well connected people through Committees of Safety. They are feeding me through a fire hose. My mind is full right now. I need rest just to give my mind time to tune up and make some more storage room. If you don’t hear much from me in the next day or two, it’s because I’m studying all the information I’ve acquired in the last 72 hours.

    Troy, there is a box of candy in your email.

  54. JAC Says:

    Sovereignty explained in easy to understand terms….

    Put the states as being partners in the ownership of a groceries store. The store recognizes that it would operate more efficiently with a good stock boy. So, the owners create a stock boy position, define the stock boy’s job description and find someone to fill the position.
    Then over time the stock boy starts to act like he is in charge… giving him self pay raise after pay raise and promoting himself up to store manager without the consent of the owners. He also decides to raise prices of the merchandise in the store to buy gadgets that aren’t really needed but giving him bragging rights of accomplishment; This cost the store owners money from their own pocket.
    After a while the stock boy is taking it so far as to think that he can boss the store owners around as if they were his employees….
    Once the store owners had enough they would sit the stock boy down and remind him that he is just a stock boy, he has no power to boss the store owners around and that he had better start acting like a stock boy or he would be getting a pink slip………………………………………………

    The states are and always have been sovereign, free and independent. The states granted the federal government its existence as their agent and in doing so granted it specific, limited and enumerated powers. The federal government is and always has been subordinate to the states.

  55. susiezen Says:

    ten, be carefull. from all accounts we are being watched by obambots.
    The same evil, nasty, cruel people that invaded blogs during the pre-election days. they were a brutal bunch and they are back, and on a mission.
    I heard on my local radio about college students in the area donating several hours staking out the internet.
    living near the many colleges{most all liberal} that make up a large population of Massachusettes, you hear alot of what these students are up to, what new fads they follow, all merit attention from business owners looking to capitalize on the hordes of havards, mits, umass, bc, n. easterns, emersons..etc etc etc
    My point is that there has been alot of talk about different organized grouops compiling lists of bloggers that have the slightest distaste of Obama….where and why do these hit list exist, and were they end up, noboy knows,,,but you can bet that we here at roses place are surely being looked at.
    As scary as this sounds..big brother is watching, in the form of snot nosed liberal, idealistic college students looking fro a revelution, only these newby protesters are pro-government….obama informants for free….makes me sick.
    The thing is you know obama already has his people all over the web, looking at us all….they know who we are and were we live…..dont ef with obama….is their motto

  56. sliderblaze Says:

    Soldier doubts Obama’s eligibility, defies president’s orders…

    via drudge report

  57. rosettasister Says:

    Good morning!

    ——————-

    Soldier doubts eligibility, defies president’s orders

    ‘As an officer, my sworn oath to support and defend our Constitution requires this’

    http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=89837

    “As an active-duty officer in the United States Army, I have grave concerns about the constitutional eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama to hold the office of president of the United States,” wrote Scott Easterling in a “to-whom-it-may-concern” letter.

    Obama “has absolutely refused to provide to the American public his original birth certificate, as well as other documents which may prove or disprove his eligibility,” Easterling wrote. “In fact, he has fought every attempt made by concerned citizens in their effort to force him to do so.”

    Taitz told WND she had advised Easterling to obtain legal counsel before making any statements regarding the commander-in-chief, but he insisted on moving forward. His contention is that as an active member of the U.S. military, he is required to follow orders from a sitting president, and he needs – on pain of court-martial – to know that Obama is eligible.

  58. susiezen Says:

    how or, is it possible to get rush online?

  59. rosettasister Says:

    susie, here’s one place to listen:

    http://www.wabcradio.com/article.asp?id=531472

  60. rosettasister Says:

    I am so proud of Arizona Senator Jon Kyl!

    —————-

    Geert Wilders to Glenn Beck: Europe needs a First Amendment

    http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/23/geert-wilders-to-glenn-beck-europe-needs-a-first-amendment/

    Next stop for Wilders is Capitol Hill, to screen “Fitna” for the U.S. Senate at the invitation of Jon Kyl.

    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/view/2009_02_23_US_lawmaker_hosts_anti-Islamic_Dutch_lawmaker/

  61. rosettasister Says:

    Susie,

    Freepers have a Rush thread every day.

    Here is today’s:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2192853/posts

  62. rosettasister Says:

    “Beyond Our Wildest Expectations”

    Lorie Byrd
    Tuesday, February 24, 2009

    http://townhall.com/Columnists/LorieByrd/2009/02/24/beyond_our_wildest_expectations

    In his analysis of Santelli’s “Shout Heard Round the World,” James Pethokoukis comments on the sharp and quick Obama sprint back to the Left following the election.

    “It’s now clear why Team Obama was following Rahm Emanuel’s “shock doctrine” recommendation of not “letting a crisis go to waste.”

    When you are trying to govern a center-right nation from the left, you need to grab whatever advantages fortune hands you and then move fast and hard to exploit them.

    But did Obama really win a mandate to borrow and spend taxpayer money like never before, rescue bad banks and then bailout financially-inept or even fraudulent homeowners?

    Rick Santelli doesn’t think so and that is why he talked back.”

    If we continue to see the Obama administration move hard and fast to the left, the pushback from the right both from the grassroots and from congressional Republicans should grow even stronger.

    Since the Obama followers have spent the past two years in campaign Hope ‘n Change mode, it will be interesting to see if they can rally the troops to support the administration’s proposals as they supported the campaign.

    In contrast, conservatives over the past couple of years have had little motivation or inspiration, but now appear energized for a fight.

    If they can maintain the momentum they have picked up over the past month, we might actually see them unite into a successful opposition force and achieve success beyond our wildest expectations.

  63. rosettasister Says:

    Gallup Poll: Obama Approval Down, Disapproval Up

    http://www.usnews.com/blogs/capital-commerce/2009/2/24/gallup-poll-obama–approval-down-disapproval-up.html?s_cid=etRR-0224

    I find this interesting. A new Gallup poll found that President Obama’s approval rating of 68% in January has slipped to 63%, while his disapproval rating has climbed from 12% to 24%. Two groups in particular have soured on the president. His approval among Republicans has plunged from a weak 41% to sickly 30% What’s more, 58% of middle-class voters approve of him vs. 69% last month. Quick thoughts:

    1) His middle-class “tax cut” does not appear to be paying political dividends.

    2) This poll really undermines the theory that the public will continue to support the Obamacrats if the recession is a long one. “Blame Bush” has an expiration date.

    3) Obama has supplied nothing but left-of-center policy prescriptions for a right-of-center nation There is tension between the two that the Gallup poll has picked up on. Yet the White House could have pushed a truly bipartisan stimulus bill, for instance, that recognized this reality (50 percent “real tax cuts,” 50 percent infrastructure, and loans to states). Would have been smart economics, too.

  64. rosettasister Says:

    Bank Nationalization: Only Costs $598 Billion

    http://www.usnews.com/blogs/capital-commerce/2009/2/24/bank-nationalization-only-costs-598-billion.html?s_cid=etRR-0224

    The great Ed Yardeni scores with this one on bank nationalization.

    The government can buy the entire banking system for chump change. It can buy the entire S&P 500 Financials sector for $598bn at yesterday’s close. Stock investors seem to be resigned to bank nationalization. In effect, they are telling Washington, “Go ahead, you damaged them, you can have them.” Why should the government waste any more money on programs to provide capital injections to the banks? Take them all. That way all bank deposits and bank debt will be government guaranteed. Barney Franks can make sure they lend money to his friends and relatives. Chris Dodd can refinance his mortgage.

    ***Wouldn’t it be a great big joke on us all if the government suspends mark-to-market accounting for the banks it nationalizes? All this time, the Capital Kleptocrats refused to do so to protect investors in bank stocks. Now that they’ve wiped out those investors, who cares whether the nationalized banks’ books add up!***

  65. rosettasister Says:

    Bernanke: ‘Reasonable’ Chance of 2010 Recovery

    http://www.usnews.com/blogs/capital-commerce/2009/2/24/bernanke-reasonable-chance-of-2010-recovery.html?s_cid=etRR-0224

    This is the money graf in Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke’s House testimony today.

    This outlook for economic activity is subject to considerable uncertainty, and I believe that, overall, the downside risks probably outweigh those on the upside.

    One risk arises from the global nature of the slowdown, which could adversely affect U.S. exports and financial conditions to an even greater degree than currently expected.

    Another risk derives from the destructive power of the so-called adverse feedback loop, in which weakening economic and financial conditions become mutually reinforcing.

    To break the adverse feedback loop, it is essential that we continue to complement fiscal stimulus with strong government action to stabilize financial institutions and financial markets. If actions taken by the Administration, the Congress, and the Federal Reserve are successful in restoring some measure of financial stability–and only if that is the case, in my view–there is a reasonable prospect that the current recession will end in 2009 and that 2010 will be a year of recovery.

    If financial conditions improve, the economy will be increasingly supported by fiscal and monetary stimulus, the salutary effects of the steep decline in energy prices since last summer, and the better alignment of business inventories and final sales, as well as the increased availability of credit.

    Me: Let’s recall that we have not had a downturn longer than 16 months since the Great Depression, at least as the National Bureau of Economic Research dates things. So even this optimistic scenario, as Bernanke means it, is pretty gloomy.

  66. ddlew2 Says:

    Here comes another 410 billion spending bill!

  67. rosettasister Says:

    Haven’t had time yet to try and make sense of the following, but seemed like an important piece of writing.

    Investing In High Unemployment And High Inflation

    February 19, 2009
    By Dan Scott

    http://www.publiusforum.com/2009/02/19/investing-in-high-unemployment-and-high-inflation/

    EXCERPT

    So already the liberals are back peddling by blaming Bush for a year long recession, when in fact it’s only been 6 months or 2 quarters of negative GDP, they admit their pump priming of the economy with deficit spending isn’t going to work as advertised.

    The Real Stimulus Burden

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123440436240475615.html

    The nearby chart shows how the bill will increase the 2009 budget deficit, which is already the largest in modern history.

    Perhaps you recall the deficit wails from the Reagan years, but the peak deficit was only 6% of GDP in 1983.

    In the Clinton years we were told taxes had to rise to reduce a deficit of merely 3.9% of GDP.

    CBO estimates the 2009 deficit will reach 8.3% of the economy, not including the stimulus or bank bailout cash.

    Toss in those, and analysts at the Strategas Group estimate the deficit could hit nearly $2 trillion, or 13.5% of the U.S. economy.

    There are other nauseating tidbits in the article as well, so be warned if you read the whole thing.

    The projected $2 trillion federal deficit for 2009 represents an ($2T/$10.8T) 18.5% INCREASE in the National Debt in just ONE year.

    Now I ask you, is there $2 trillion in the entire world available to lend to the US government in just one year?

    Let me pose another question, what happens if no one wants to buy those bonds to enable Congress to deficit spend?

    (Good point, Dan! China’s not doing so hot lately, either.)

    “Asian markets plummet. For many the recession has arrived”

    http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=14561&size=A

  68. rosettasister Says:

    bbl

  69. JAC Says:

    Kind of makes you worry…..doesn’t it?

    Back in 1990, the Government seized the Mustang Ranch brothel in Nevada for tax evasion and, as required by law, tried to run it. They failed and it closed.

    Now we are trusting the economy of our country and our banking system to the same nit-wits who couldn’t make money running a ***** house and selling whiskey.

    Kind of makes you worry…..doesn’t it?

  70. JAC Says:

    A Little Humor For the Day!….The Bailout Mascot

    The Bailout Mascot

    The government today announced that it is changing its national symbol to a CONDOM because it more accurately reflects the government’s political stance. A condom allows for inflation, halts production, destroys the next generation, protects a bunch of ******* and gives you a sense of security while you’re actually being screwed.

    Darn, it just doesn’t get more accurate than that!

  71. sisterrosetta Says:

    Not home but had to say lol!

  72. j.b. Says:

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.d86c1620aac694a3db762c213a8884d1.841&show_article=1

    😦

    This. Is. Infuriating!

  73. j.b. Says:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandtechnology/technology/google/4797727/Googles-Gmail-service-crashes-across-world.html

    Awwwwwww, poor bastards. not.

  74. j.b. Says:

    sliderblaze Says:

    February 24, 2009 at 2:46 pm
    Soldier doubts Obama’s eligibility, defies president’s orders…

    via drudge report

    This is HUGE! NO? I mean, DRUDGE!
    F i n a l l y.

    When I read that on Drudge, earlier, I planned to post it here-
    I “knew” you’d be the one to beat me to it. 🙂

    Who will talk about it first? I think Sean might be ready.

    I am sooooo tired of waiting and wondering and worrying. It is wearing on me and making me weary.

  75. j.b. Says:

    Lame Cherry calls Barry, “8 Ball Obama”. lol.

  76. j.b. Says:

    http://theliepolitic.com/2009/02/obamas-homeless-woman-is-actually-real-estate-investor/

    Apologies if this is a repeat. But, WTF?

  77. LadyTexan Says:

    Excellent!!

    Arrest Made in Home Foreclosure Civil Disobedience Program

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,498669,00.html

  78. rosettasister Says:

    Reposting link from above. Highly suggest you read the whole thing.

    http://www.publiusforum.com/2009/02/19/investing-in-high-unemployment-and-high-inflation/

    ANOTHER EXCERPT

    If the annual US GDP is $13 trillion and the government increases the money supply by $2 trillion in one year then rate of inflation roughly speaking will be (2/13) 15.4%.

    Why would the government increase the money supply?

    If the Treasury can not find buyers for their bonds, the Fed as purchaser of last resort must do so.

    If the CPI-W (conservatively speaking) is -0.5% from Dec 07 to Dec 08.

    http://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.nr0.htm

    Let’s assume the Fed is forced to buy all $2 trillion this year.

    That means we should see inflation this year ramping up to (15.4 – 1) roughly 14.4% by December 2009.

    Let’s ball park estimate the impact on exchange rates.

    There is about $829 billion dollars of U.S. currency in circulation; the majority is held outside the United States.

    http://www.newyorkfed.org/aboutthefed/fedpoint/fed01.html

    ($2 trillion+$829 billion /$829 billion) is a 341% increase.

    We should expect to see the value of the dollar drop ($829/($2 trillion + $829 billion) to 29% of it’s value, basically a 2/3rds drop.

    So if the Euro (assuming they don’t massively print money also) equals a $1.28 now, then the dollar would devalue to $3.80 to the Euro or so.

    By implication due to exchange rates, the price of oil will triple to more than a $100/barrel since the oil producers will immediately move to price all oil trades in Euros or Yen to preserve it’s value.

    That is where hyper-inflation and depression occur at the same time.

    Now it’s time to start discussing investing in a high unemployment and high inflation environment.

    —————————

    This is the part I don’t get.

    “If the Treasury can not find buyers for their bonds, the Fed as purchaser of last resort must do so.”

    Would this be like me getting a loan from a bank that has no cash?

    Is this when we start printing money that has no value?

    I’m still trying to wrap my head around this concept.

  79. Tenacity Says:

    Zen,
    I will not live in fear. Caution is wise, but hiding may be surrender. We must educate a sufficient number of people to the truth. Truth is like a bear in a cage. The cage is not there to protect the bear. Truth can take care of itself. I know where I am going when I die. Do you?

    “Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” Ron Paul

    There is a lot of real treason going on and the truth is going to come out one way or another. It is a good day to die.

  80. Tenacity Says:

    Rose said:
    Would this be like me getting a loan from a bank that has no cash?

    Is this when we start printing money that has no value?

    I’m still trying to wrap my head around this concept.
    ****************
    Since 1933, that is the only kind of loans and money there has been.

    Did you watch the http://www.gigisup.net ?

    Or Freedom to Fascism? http :// video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173

  81. rosettasister Says:

    Here is that link:

    America: Freedom to Fascism – Director’s Authorized Version

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173

    Honestly, I’ve only watched bits and pieces.

    Impatience seems to be one of my chief features.

    I will make an attempt to try and understand.

    Unless I’m mistaken, you are arguing the same point my father did many moons ago.

    And while I think I understand that huge mistakes were made regarding our money supply, don’t we have to live with what is making the world go ‘round, so to speak?

    It seems to me that what is killing us right now are huge deficits combined with shrinking economies.

    And what kills U.S. kills the rest of the world.

    China in recession is a frightening prospect.

    I wish there were some way to reverse the huge mistake we’ve just made thanks to Specter, Snowe and Collins.

    I heard Hannity say that 60% of the spending from the “stimulus” won’t occur until after the 2010 elections.

    So if wiser heads prevail, we have a chance at least to reverse at least some of the damage.

    So while I agree with you philosophically, Tenacity, I want to know what realistically can be done now to reverse course. Besides preparing for the worst, that is.

    Which is probably a wise course of action, anyway.

    Rose

  82. cynkading Says:

    Well this just tops it all. Just read on http://TMZ.com that Northern Trust Bank based out of Chicago spent mega dollars on a party for the hollywood elite during the Oscars. The bank received 1.6 billion dollars during the bailout and did not ask for any bailout money but sure spent it like a drunken soldier.

  83. patriotamy Says:

    JAC Says:

    February 24, 2009 at 6:24 pm
    A Little Humor For the Day!….The Bailout Mascot
    ********************************
    LOL … almost fell out of my chair!!!

  84. Katie Says:

    Soldier doubts Obama’s eligibility, defies president’s orders…

    via drudge report (on WND)

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    BIG PROBLEM with this headline. I’ve read the story a couple times, and NO WHERE does it say anything about Lt. Easterling defying ANY orders, so why would they put that in the headline? I just saw that it’s got Leo Donofrio hoppin’ mad as well. He’s got a new post.

  85. JAC Says:

    States That Already Are Sovereign / Passed 10th Amendement Restatement Legislature:
    – California (CA):
    – Hawaii (HI):
    – Texas (TX):

    States Claiming Sovereignty:
    – Arizona (AZ):
    – Arkansas (AR):
    – Georgia (GA):
    – Indiana (IN):
    – Iowa (IA):
    – Michigan (MI):
    – Minnesota (MN):
    – Missouri (MO):
    – Montana (MT):
    – New Hampshire (NH):
    – Oklahoma (OK):
    – South Carolina (SC):
    – Tennessee (TN):
    – Washington (WA):

    States Planning / Motioning Toward Claiming Sovereignty:
    – Alabama (AL):
    – Alaska (AK):
    – Colorado (CO):
    – Idaho (ID):
    – Kansas (KS):
    – Maine (ME):
    – Nevada (NV):
    – Ohio (OH):
    – Pennsylvania (PA):
    – West Virginia (WV):

    States on the ‘Watch List’
    – Florida (FL):
    – Louisiana (LA):

  86. JAC Says:

    Q. Why will Obama hold a séance once he’s in the White House?

    A. So that he can thank everybody who voted for him.

    President elect Obama has arranged for his first meeting with foreign leaders from other countries to demonstrate his foreign policy expertise. It’s scheduled to run for five minutes.

    Q. What will America’s national bird be when Obama takes office?

    A. His middle finger.

    Obama’s staff is preparing for his first press conference as President. They’re busy writing the questions.

    Q. What will the difference be between President Obama and Karl Marx?

    A. Nobody knows.

    Unlike former Presidents, Obama is not a member of the NRA, National Rifle Association. He’s joined William Ayers organization instead. The NBA, the National Bombers Association.

    Q. Why won’t President Obama have a turkey for Thanksgiving dinner?

    A. Vice President Biden will be out of town.

    Between now and his inauguration as President on January 20th, Obama intends to clean out his Senate office. That is, if he can remember where it is.

    Q. Why is the Secret Service installing lighting rods at the White House?

    A. To protect President Obama as he takes his Oath of Office.

    As President, Obama intends to run the country’s finances just like he ran his household finances. He’s got a book of blank checks

    Q. Why will Obama ride in the back of a Presidential limousine?

    A. The Vatican wouldn’t sell him a Pope-Mobile.

    Q. How will President Obama oppose Russia’s invasion of Georgia?

    A. He’ll send troops to Atlanta.

    Q. Why will President Obama get a new puppy for the White House?

    A. Joe Biden is getting on in years.

    Q. What’s black and blue and dead all over?

    A. Anyone who dares to tell a joke about President Obama in public.

    Q. What do SIMBA and OBAMA have in common?

    A. They’re both cartoons.

    Q. Why will President Obama bulldoze the Rose Garden?

    A. He doesn’t want any bushes at the White House.

    Q. What will President Obama replace the rose bushes with?

    A. Opium poppies.

  87. Tenacity Says:

    Rose,
    You have one of the best educational resources in the world available to you with this blog. It’s better than any classroom I have ever been in. I am grateful that you are such a gracious host of high integrity.

    The answer is: NO, fractionalized reserve banking is precisely what is killing our economy. Yes, it is what facilitated the rapid growth, but it is a Ponzi scheme. It is the backbone of a fiat empire. We must return to an honest money system for a myriad of reasons. One is that the Illuminati/Federal Reserve/World Bank/Bilderberg Club/Council on Foreign Affairs/Tri-lateral Commission/Upper level Free Masons (all of these are synonymous to some extent) has been ripping us off since this country was founded. The greatest scam they pulled monetarily is a private organization (the Federal Reserve) being given the power to print/create a fiat currency and lend the paper/journal credit entry to us and charge us interest when there is nothing backing it up but the US military that we pay for via the 100 or so different taxes that they collect from us. I say they because THEY control the federal government (all 3 branches & both pseudo-parties) and media. Nearly 90% of the VOLUNTARY income tax that they have unconstitutionally extorted from us goes to pay the interest on the worthless paper/journal entries which they DO NOT PAY TAXES ON! So we must stop the Ponzi scheme. Will it take some adjusting to learn how to stop living above our means…yeah. Will we be able to rip off the rest of the world with our fiat money as in the past…No. Will the US recover and be able to save our Republic…maybe. It requires that we expose the thieves and run them out of town. Will that be easy? HELL NO. Must we do it? Absolutely!!!!! Understand that it is not what has made the world go around. It is what has facilitated almost all of our wars. It is what has removed our God given Natural Law rights. It is what will destroy our REPUBLIC.

    Now I despise Specter, Snowe and Collins as not only traitors to those honest conservative Republicans (a few politicians and mostly citizens), but also as traitors to their oath of office (to defend the Constitution). However, don’t be so quick to believe that they were alone in their treachery. If 8 or 10 Republican votes had been required, how many votes do you believe there would have been? There were only 3 because that was all they needed.

  88. Tucker82254 Says:

    Taitz today sent out an email alert announcing that yet another active duty military soldier is joining Lt. Easterling’s challenge.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2193104/posts

  89. Tenacity Says:

    I think I just fell off my soapbox.

  90. patriotamy Says:

    Ten, I agree with your statement completely.

    Even if you go back in history, you can see the pattern of banks controlling the sway of the political scene. This started many, many years ago. If the truth be known, almost to the beginning of our nation.

    Our forefathers knew (they were very insightful men) that the nature of man was to be greedy. That someone would want to control all of the money and the people. It is why they set up the Constitution the way they did.

    Over the past century, our “representatives” have chipped away at that document until it is barely recognizable.

    I am amazed at how many people are finally starting to wake up and see what it is doing to our nation. Now to keep the momentum going and get more people educated.

  91. patriotamy Says:

    Ten, hope you didn’t get hurt.. those soap boxes can be slippery…

  92. Tenacity Says:

    I just realized that I said Foreign AFFAIRS. It should have been Foreign RELATIONS. Like I said…I must have fell off my soapbox.

  93. Tenacity Says:

    Patriotamy,
    One must proceed at their own risk. 🙂

  94. Tenacity Says:

    Our Forefathers may have actually fallen a bit short of the task. We need a 1 term limit with no lifetime appointments in any branch. We also need to mandate that every citizen participate in each State’s well regulated militia and everyone above the age of 12 taught to properly handle a firearm and each adult required to own one.

  95. rosettasister Says:

    Tenacity Says:
    February 24, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    I just realized that I said Foreign AFFAIRS. It should have been Foreign RELATIONS. Like I said…I must have fell off my soapbox.

    —————–

    okay, give me some time to take all of that in!

    believe me, Tenacity, I do not underestimate the posters here!

    Rose

  96. JAC Says:

    I about rattled off with 4 letter words earlier while I was in Dollar General picking up a few things..They always have a radio station playing in the store and there was a news report…..

    The idiot reporter actually said……. that Obama has accomplished more in 30 days of Presidency than any President in History…..

    Ok…….Puke…. he has accomplished nothing but sign his name to bad EO’s and the ScrewUs package….

  97. JAC Says:

    I wish I remember where I was.. I was bouncing around this morning. following links in other blogs….. and I came across an article about how the Dems are going to harass the Reps that voted against the ScrewUs package….. calling their constitutes and telling half truths and full lies..

  98. rosettasister Says:

    You’re right, Cindy!

    We need to speak out as often as we can and not worry about offending others.

    “I’m not afraid to say this Obama is a disaster!”

  99. patriotamy Says:

    JAC Says:

    February 24, 2009 at 10:06 pm
    ******************************
    The reporter just wasn’t finished. He meant to say that what he has accomplished in those 30 days was a strong push toward socialism. More than any other President.

  100. rosettasister Says:

    Checking out for awhile.

    Man, it’s warm in the Valley of the Sun!

    New Thread:

    https://rosettasister.wordpress.com/2009/02/24/with-politics-and-taxes-and-people-grinding-axes-theres-no-happiness/

  101. JAC Says:

    Rose,
    I often try to work Obama/ politics in the conversation…… lol….. like today.the store manager and I were chatting and we talked about how beautiful it was outside today….. I jumped in about how about how this summer is probably going to be eventful……
    How the military is training in the US for civil unrest and riots predicted this summer over the economy……

    You should of seen her face….lol…. I know the minute she got home she was going to be surfing the net to look for more information…..

    Just drop little nuggets, smile and walk away… explaining will just shut their minds……… buuuuut if they go looking for answers themselves….. then we gain more members for our side…..

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