You Have Loved Enough



The outstretched hand of God reaching out to Adam in “The Creation of Adam” by Renaissance master Michelangelo (1475 – 1564) is expressively depicted with an air of suspenseful anticipation.

“You Have Loved Enough”

I said I’d be your lover.
You laughed at what I said.
I lost my job forever.
I was counted with the dead.

I swept the marble chambers,
But you sent me down below.
You kept me from believing
Until you let me know:

That I am not the one who loves –
It’s love that seizes me.
When hatred with his package comes,
You forbid delivery.

And when the hunger for your touch
Rises from the hunger,
You whisper, “You have loved enough,
Now let me be the Lover.”

I swept the marble chambers,
But you sent me down below.
You kept me from believing
Until you let me know:

That I am not the one who loves –
It’s love that chooses me.
When hatred with his package comes,
You forbid delivery.

And when the hunger for your touch
Rises from the hunger . . .


the end of the day by Leonard Cohen

The bestselling collection of latter-day Leonard Cohen poetry and drawings, Book of Longing.


153 Responses to “You Have Loved Enough”

  1. j.b. Says:

    hello? one? two?

  2. j.b. Says:


  3. j.b. Says:


  4. susie hudson Says:


  5. susie hudson Says:

    I coulda been a connenda

  6. Tenacity Says:

    Where is everybody?

  7. susie hudson Says:

    so, a few more states are jumping into the sovereignty gang. Im loving it, as far as Im concerned, whether or not its taken seriously, it sure makes obama look like a fool. Keep them coming, you couldnt send a better message to washington

  8. susie hudson Says:

    tom dashntax is also making obama look like an a*& also…hes doing everything he said he wouldnt do.
    People must be saying “what change”? ITS getting ugly folks…hehehheheh

  9. susie hudson Says:

    ethics are over-rated for them democrats…

  10. Tenacity Says:

    Did you mention Dhims and ethics? Those 2 words do not relate to one another.

  11. Troy Says:


  12. Tenacity Says:

    I know nothink.

  13. Troy Says:

    I didn’t hear Devvy over at Plains…All I heard was some lady that talks to animals.

  14. sliderblaze Says:

    susie hudson Says:
    February 4, 2009 at 2:03 am

    so, a few more states are jumping into the sovereignty gang. Im loving it, as far as Im concerned, whether or not its taken seriously, it sure makes obama look like a fool. Keep them coming, you couldnt send a better message to washington
    O is doing a fine enough job of making himself like a fool. all and all, it’s been a good day

  15. Tenacity Says:

    Phil Berg on America Betrayed Radio:

  16. sliderblaze Says:

    there some crazy shit going on here….WOW, a “snow anomaly” calling for about a foot of now possible. on a 10 mile wide strip i just went through the city of lancaster, not one snow flake on the west side of town, you cross over the square, already 4 inches on the other side of the city….really wierd

  17. sba1872 Says:,CST-NWS-davis01.article

    A federal grand jury has subpoenaed records on dozens of low-income housing projects built over the last 30 years by indicted businessman William F. Cellini, convicted political fund-raiser Tony Rezko and City Hall insider Allison S. Davis.

    The mountain of documents the grand jury wants from the Illinois Housing Development Authority includes two projects in which President Obama has acknowledged playing a minor role. Both of those projects involved Rezko, a former fund-raiser for Obama. One of them included Davis, who was once Obama’s boss at a small law firm.

  18. sliderblaze Says:


  19. j.b. Says:
    Could this be true? WHERE AM I? Someone save US!

    GOD help US all.

  20. j.b. Says:

    Bring your duct tape……….

  21. justanamericancindy4 Says:


  22. cyndi Says:

    also heard AZ, MO, and NH…..this could get interesting!

  23. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    haven’t seen you around in awhile

  24. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    yes daily paul has about Az and MO too

  25. Tenacity Says:

    Is there any way to get the Leo articles on the Grand Jury in the hands of that Grand Jury?

  26. sba1872 Says:,0,7358581.column

    “Dear Blagojevich, Forget David Letterman, and Try These Top 10 Jobs”

    John Kass
    12:09 AM CST, February 4, 2009

    Former Gov. Rod Blagojevich can’t hang out on the David Letterman show every night, playing the dancing monkey on national television.

    Dancing monkeys don’t make much, and Blago needs a good job. I hear secretary of health and human services in the Obama administration is open. Say what you want about Bouffantovich, at least he paid his taxes.

    If it doesn’t work out, my readers have gallantly come up with a Top 10 Blago Jobs list. Sorry, I couldn’t include all the gazillion ideas you sent in, particularly those involving the adult film industry.

    Dead Meat Job No. 1: Blagojevich will make a fortune selling singalong DVDs for little children being potty-trained, featuring some of our favorite Chicago politicians in costume. Reader James M. sent in his playlist:

    1. “Little Napoleon’s Cuckoo Song” by Mayor Daley in his Mayor Chucky voice.

    2. “I Wish My Son-in-Law Was Never Born” by Ald. Richard Mell.

    3. “Let Me Count the Ways I Love Me” by Rod and the Blagos.

    4. “What Happens When the Little Bird Sings (to a Federal Grand Jury)” by Anonymous.

    5. “I’ve Got a New Cell Mate (And I Think He Likes Me)” by Dead Meat.

  27. cyndi Says:

    Hi other Cindy!!

    Now Oklahoma declares Soveriegnty.

    Could all of this have to do with this?

    Indian land case goes before Supreme Court

    08:45 AM EST on Tuesday, November 4, 2008

    Assistant Solicitor General Deanne E. Maynard argued that the tribe is covered by a 1934 law — “New Deal legislation for Indians,” as she described it — that exempted tribal trust lands from local law and taxation to help them “to revive economically and to have self-governance.”

    “We are talking about an extraordinary assertion of power,” warned Chief Justice John G. Roberts. “The secretary gets to take land and give it a whole different jurisdictional status, apart from state law and all.”

    The outcome of the case could reopen the question , bitterly disputed for decades, of whether the Narragansett Indians can build casinos and other enterprises over the objections of their neighbors in South County and the State of Rhode Island.

    But Maynard told the court, “If what you’re concerned with is the specter of gaming,” she understands that “the tribe could not unilaterally decide to game,” even if the high court rules that the Narragansett property may be taken into trust.

    THE CASE HAS NATIONAL implications. Rhode Island argues in its appeal that it could affect scores of states and tribes nationwide. At play is whether “a potentially unlimited amount of land” should fall under the jurisdiction of states or tribes. Twenty-one states, including Connecticut and Massachusetts, filed briefs in support of Rhode Island’s appeal.

    the case was heard in January suppose to hear a ruling in feb.

    This could lead to
    U.S.A declaring insolvency

    Remember Powell and Albright saying a big announcement
    Biden mark my words comment

  28. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    it might be a small part…… but the bill sent to congress from New Hampshire was quite detailed…. is was about guns, freedom of speech, civil army……. etc
    basically telling Gov quit trying to push unconstitutional laws

  29. sba1872 Says:


    I believe the identities of grand jury members must be protected, for obvious reasons. If you can’t identify them, you can’t get information directly to them. I guess you could post copies of Donofrio’s comments in the comments area of Chicago or Illinois state newspapers or blogs and hope that those particular grand jurors frequent the Internets. Otherwise, I wouldn’t know how you could “educate” them as to the extent of their power, beyond whatever information is brought before them by the prosecutor’s office.

  30. patriotamy Says:

    A friend sent this to me today. Very uplifting. A MUST see tribute to our country and our troops.

  31. cyndi Says:

    Here’s Oklahoma’s sounds like more than a threat to me…


    A Joint Resolution claiming sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over certain powers; serving notice to the federal government to cease and desist certain mandates; providing that certain federal legislation be prohibited or repealed; and directing distribution.

    WHEREAS, the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States reads as follows:
    “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”; and
    WHEREAS, the Tenth Amendment defines the total scope of federal power as being that specifically granted by the Constitution of the United States and no more; and
    WHEREAS, the scope of power defined by the Tenth Amendment means that the federal government was created by the states specifically to be an agent of the states; and
    WHEREAS, today, in 2009, the states are demonstrably treated as agents of the federal government; and
    WHEREAS, many federal laws are directly in violation of the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States; and
    WHEREAS, the Tenth Amendment assures that we, the people of the United States of America and each sovereign state in the Union of States, now have, and have always had, rights the federal government may not usurp; and
    WHEREAS, Article IV, Section 4 says, “The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government”, and the Ninth Amendment states that ”The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people”; and
    WHEREAS, the United States Supreme Court has ruled in New York v. United States, 112 S. Ct. 2408 (1992), that Congress may not simply commandeer the legislative and regulatory processes of the states; and
    WHEREAS, a number of proposals from previous administrations and some now pending from the present administration and from Congress may further violate the Constitution of the United States.
    THAT the State of Oklahoma hereby claims sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the Constitution of the United States.
    THAT this serve as Notice and Demand to the federal government, as our agent, to cease and desist, effective immediately, mandates that are beyond the scope of these constitutionally delegated powers.
    THAT all compulsory federal legislation which directs states to comply under threat of civil or criminal penalties or sanctions or requires states to pass legislation or lose federal funding be prohibited or repealed.
    THAT a copy of this resolution be distributed to the President of the United States, the President of the United States Senate, the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, the Speaker of the House and the President of the Senate of each state’s legislature of the United States of America, and each member of the Oklahoma Congressional Delegation.

  32. Tenacity Says:

    What are the jurors allowed to have access to? Newspapers, internet, mail or personal phone calls? Do they go home every night or are they sequestered?

  33. cyndi Says:

    Oops sorry forgot link

  34. Tenacity Says:

    That OK Resolution just warmed the cockles of my heart. It was like reading a love letter from my first crush. Now, if we could just get the numb nuts in Colorado to follow suit.

    I repeat, when OK & TX secede, I want to annex the southern part of Colorado from the south city limit of Denver into their new territory/Republic.

  35. Tenacity Says:

    How did you find the OK Resolution on their site?

  36. patriotamy Says:

    Could OK & TX jump over here to ID and keep us too???

  37. cyndi Says:

    I heard chatter that Idaho may be next.

  38. Tenacity Says:

    We could just annex around the cities of Denver and Boulder. I expect Wyoming & Montana would climb on board in a heartbeat.

  39. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    New Hampshire

  40. patriotamy Says:

    I know that Wyo people don’t particularly care for Denver-ites. Still have family north of Cheyenne… 😀

  41. patriotamy Says:

    cyndi Says:

    February 4, 2009 at 7:00 am
    I heard chatter that Idaho may be next.
    Where’d you hear that??

  42. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    so that makes
    New Hampshire
    Washington State

    Texas is making noise about doing the same

  43. Tenacity Says:

    Check this out…a list of tax delinquencies by federal workers as ot 9/11/2004

    Click to access crooks.pdf

  44. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I like this part of NH
    That any Act by the Congress of the United States, Executive Order of the President of the United States of America or Judicial Order by the Judicatories of the United States of America which assumes a power not delegated to the government of United States of America by the Constitution for the United States of America and which serves to diminish the liberty of the any of the several States or their citizens shall constitute a nullification of the Constitution for the United States of America by the government of the United States of America. Acts which would cause such a nullification include, but are not limited to:

    I. Establishing martial law or a state of emergency within one of the States comprising the United States of America without the consent of the legislature of that State.

    II. Requiring involuntary servitude, or governmental service other than a draft during a declared war, or pursuant to, or as an alternative to, incarceration after due process of law.

    III. Requiring involuntary servitude or governmental service of persons under the age of 18 other than pursuant to, or as an alternative to, incarceration after due process of law.

    IV. Surrendering any power delegated or not delegated to any corporation or foreign government.

    V. Any act regarding religion; further limitations on freedom of political speech; or further limitations on freedom of the press.

    VI. Further infringements on the right to keep and bear arms including prohibitions of type or quantity of arms or ammunition;

  45. sba1872 Says:

    Definitely not sequestered. I don’t think they have a limitation on what they can read either. The sun times article about the records subpoenas, by the way, indicated that the information about these subpoenas was just now made public, but the subpoenas were actually issued back in September of 2008. So this grand jury is kind of ahead of the news. Theoretically, they have more actual information than we can get from any public news source, unless a witness blabs.

    “Length Of Service
    Grand Jury Service is for a period of eighteen months. If selected on a grand jury, you will appear once per week at the U. S. District Court. Advance notice will be available by telephone.”

    Couldn’t find anymore information about Northern District of Illinois grand juries, but I found this State of Georgia Grand Jury Handbook, which gives general information about grand juries.

  46. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    “When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny.”
    -Thomas Jefferson

  47. sba1872 Says:

    Here’s the Illinois Grand Jury Handbook:

    Powers and Duties of the Grand Jury

    The grand jury has the duty of inquiring into matters relating to crime or corruption in the area it serves. This information generally comes to its knowledge in the following ways;

    1.Information submitted by the Prosecutor.
    2.Information that may come to its knowledge in the course of its investigation of other matters.
    3.Information called to its attention by the Court.
    4. Information that it has of its own knowledge.

    Per number 4, they can definitely make use of knowledge acquired on their own.

  48. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    btw it’s great to see you SBA

  49. Tenacity Says:

    Mucho gracias senor sba! Press 1 for English.

  50. sba1872 Says:

    de nada

  51. Tenacity Says:

    She never talks that way to me. She just kicks me around and ignores me. Makes me feel right at home.

  52. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    I’ll kick you around for awhile…….. for a cookie….. lol

  53. Tenacity Says:

    Dang…what do I get for a slab of fudge?

  54. sba1872 Says:

    “a slab of fudge”?

    Thank God Troy and Slider aren’t around.

  55. j.b. Says:


  56. Tenacity Says:

    You never know when one of those boys will show up…and they’d love to get kicked around.

  57. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    did I miss this somehow?…..
    But since Bammy’s legal team responded it must mean they feel threatened by it

    Click to access 9-1.pdf

  58. Tenacity Says:

    What? You don’t like fudge?

  59. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    for my homemade peanut butter fudge……. I can’t go into details….
    it would make you blush…… lol 🙂

    tapping out Born to be Willlllld with my toes

  60. j.b. Says:

    Tenacity Says:

    February 4, 2009 at 8:03 am
    What? You don’t like fudge?

    Nice try…..

  61. Tenacity Says:

    I’m blushing already.

    Any judge that would buy into that pile of dung presented by the impostor’s pile of snakes, is not worth his salt, in the tank or under duress.

    Berg said tonight on the radio that the motion to dismiss served to delay disclosure.

  62. j.b. Says:

    lmao. C’mon, go look at it…….:)

  63. j.b. Says:

    Jac, that was posted last week while “you were out”……OR, it was pretty late, IIRC.

  64. sba1872 Says:


    You didn’t miss anything. This is the usual motion to dismiss. The only thing apparently new is the footnote on page 1 of the supporting memorandum where the defendants ask the Court to take judicial notice of and the Hawaii Star Bulletin report of October 31 as verifying his “birth certificate.”

  65. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I usually don’t miss much……
    oh well things happen 🙂

  66. j.b. Says:

    On the rockiest day of his young administration, President Obama did what surely made him happy for a while.

    He left.

    With little notice, the president and first lady Michelle Obama bolted the gated compound of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. in their tank of a limousine on Tuesday. They ended up at a Washington public school, greeted by children who could not care less about the collapse of a Cabinet secretary nomination.

    “We were just tired of being in the White House,” the president candidly told the gleeful second-graders at Capital City Public Charter School.

    “We got out! They let us out!” Mrs. Obama said as the kids and their teachers laughed.

    The White House said the Obamas’ trip had been planned, just not publicly announced.

    The surprise timing, though, gave the feel of two different worlds.

    At the White House, press secretary Robert Gibbs was getting grilled about Tom Daschle’s doomed nomination for health and human services secretary.

    Meanwhile, the president was getting questions from boys and girls who are the same age as his seven-year-old daughter, Sasha.

    One child asked him if he had a favorite superhero. Spiderman and Batman, the president answered.

    Another student asked what it was like to live in the White House. Mrs. Obama took charge on this one, delighting the kids with all the perks of life in America’s most famous house: a florist, a bowling alley, a movie theater, even a special place where people make chocolate and candy.

    “You should come visit,” she said.

    The stop at the school underscored a promise that the Obamas made and insist they will keep: to avoid getting caught up in a White House bubble. They say they will be visible parts of the Washington community — even in the midst of a hectic day. Or a difficult one.

    Consider what happened just before the president left the White House compound.

    In the span of a few hours, he dealt with the aborted candidacy of his government’s chief performance officer over an embarrassing tax problem; he announced a new commerce secretary nominee to replace the one who withdrew weeks earlier because of corruption investigation; and he accepted the stunning withdrawal by Daschle, who had his own problems over back taxes and ethical conflicts.

    None of that came up at school, although Obama did sneak in a plug for his economic stimulus plan.
    Blah, blah, blah.

    OFF TOPIC>>>>>.Anyone seen Gibbs in action? LMAO! He gives DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS A BAD NAME!

  67. Tenacity Says:

    We need to invite fishleg over here. I always enjoy his comments.

  68. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    you know it really gets me how they hold up Factcheck as if they were experts….
    they are nothing but a infomation blog…not a legal entity
    heck they even donated to the Obama Campaign

  69. j.b. Says:

    The only thing apparently new is the footnote on page 1 of the supporting memorandum where the defendants ask the Court to take judicial notice of and the Hawaii Star Bulletin report of October 31 as verifying his “birth certificate.”

    That is, quite frankly, laughable. You know, ALL This would be FUNNY if it WEREN’T!

  70. j.b. Says:

    Fisheg? Whoozat?

  71. Tenacity Says:

    I wonder if they make fudge in the White House?

  72. Tenacity Says:

    You posted the Obambi link. Did you look at the comments?

  73. sba1872 Says:

    Ten and j.b.,

    Couldn’t agree more. I have no doubt Berg will specifically address in his opposition brief. If I were he, I would add footnotes in there with cherrypicked quotes from blogposts. I know. He should include footnotes from obamacrimes and ask the Court to take judicial notice of the posted information. WTF

  74. j.b. Says:

    >blockquote>One child asked him if he had a favorite superhero. Spiderman and Batman, the president answered.

    Spiderman and Batman, huh? I wonder why? “Cuz they’re not real? As in, FAKE? As in, POSERS?
    As in ILLEGAL? Or IMPOSTERS, perhaps?!?

    Oh maybe because they are CHARACTERS IN A COMIC BOOK?
    Hmmmmmmmmmm, there’s that (not) funny theme again.

  75. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I make good homemade fudge

    Peanut butter marshmellow … (to die for)
    Orange dreamcycle
    Choclate raspberry

    I also make from scratch baked cheesecake

  76. j.b. Says:

    He should include footnotes from obamacrimes and ask the Court to take judicial notice of the posted information. ****************************************


  77. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    we kind of need to nit pick Factcheck for errors…..
    I know there are many.

  78. j.b. Says:

    Tenacity Says:

    February 4, 2009 at 8:21 am
    I wonder if they make fudge in the White House?

    I could have a field day with this, but I choose not to. TYVM.

  79. patriotamy Says:

    JAC, I also make the peanut butter marshmallow ‘fudge’…yummy…

  80. Tenacity Says:

    Berg has been so respectful. Sooner or later, you would think he would just cut loose and make a mockery of the whole court system. Try this thing in the public arena and make fools of the judges.

    I know he’s trying to overcome the 9/11 thing. Good attorney’s always play nice and I don’t blame him…It would just be fun to see stop pulling the punches.

  81. j.b. Says:

    Nit pick factcheck? I’d rather scrounge around in my back yard going through my dog’s dung…….and THAT ain’t gonna happen!

  82. sba1872 Says:

    j.b. says:

    “I could have a field day with this, but I choose not to. TYVM.”

    No. Thank YOU.

  83. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    Spiderman and Batman.. they hide their real identies 🙂

    Bammy’s skinny a$$ would awful in tights….lol only thing worst would be MO in tights

  84. Tenacity Says:

    What? Now you like fudge? Now fudge in the field is not what I’m talking about.

    Peanut butter marshmellow fudge…now that would be tasty.

  85. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    PP marshmellow,.. that is my favorite… I think my family would kick me out on Christmas if I didn’t bring some…

  86. j.b. Says:

    Tenacity Says:

    February 4, 2009 at 8:23 am
    You posted the Obambi link. Did you look at the comments?

    Some. Why? Did I miss a good one?

    Tell you what, that guy is BUSY! Not too many comments usually, but he keeps posting the new stuff-All day.

  87. patriotamy Says:

    Yep, mine too. Kids and grandkids call a couple of weeks before Christmas and ask if I am making it.

  88. sba1872 Says:


    I don’t think he wants to taint his cause with Blago-like behavior. However, I think he will make and has made himself available to any public forum that extends an invitation. I give him a lot of credit for that. Some of the radio hosts are real morons.

  89. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Broke down and took a pain pill tonight…. so I feel all peppy…..

  90. Tenacity Says:

    I can see MO in stockings…over her head. Can you imagine how bad she must scare the kids on Halloween? She would make a great Klingon. Maybe when a/k/a S/Ob goes to jail, MO can get a cameo on Star Treck.

  91. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    anyone look at the youtube video I posted earlier…..??

  92. j.b. Says:

    No. Thank YOU.


    I used to like fudge, but it is just TOO sweet for me now. I am/was a serious sugar addict. I lean toward dark chocolate now. Once you go dark………….

  93. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    OMG… I seen a pic someone morphed MO as a klingon I think it was yesterday I seen it

  94. patriotamy Says:,21985,25006843-5005961,00.html

    “PRESIDENT admitted “I screwed up” after his political soul mate and pick to lead health reform Tom Daschle withdrew in a storm over personal tax issues.”

  95. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    why I always but the raspberry into the chocolate fudge….. cuts down on the super sweetness……

    I also put a touch of hazelnut coffee into chocolate icing for the same reason

  96. patriotamy Says:

    justanamericancindy4 Says:

    February 4, 2009 at 8:36 am
    anyone look at the youtube video I posted earlier…..??
    which one??

  97. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    The part about Blago is funny…

  98. patriotamy Says:

    well, everyone, must hit the pillow. about 5 hours before I have to get back up for work. Have a great nite.

  99. j.b. Says:

    justanamericancindy4 Says:

    February 4, 2009 at 8:36 am
    anyone look at the youtube video I posted earlier…..??


    Yes, I liked the end. 🙂

    The part with the wings on the cons was my fav, I guess.

  100. Tenacity Says:

    Berg won’t go back on Plains, will he? I’m curious when the gloves come off on his sealed case? He is very guarded on the radio. He always sticks to his talking points…almost never anything new. Tonight he mentioned that he is the Atty of record but others working in the background. They want to help but don’t want to have the light put on them. They may be afraid of getting the same treatment as Donofrio.

  101. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    night Amy 🙂

  102. patriotamy Says:

    JAC, btw, I did watch that one. It was funny

  103. j.b. Says:

    g’night Amy, I watched your video earlier, too. 🙂 It is important to be reminded of these things, these days, isn’t it?

  104. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    nope Burg won’t go back on plains……
    too much sueing going on…… MommaE.against Ed….. Ed against MommaE …. Burg in the middle

  105. j.b. Says:

    Tenacity did you read Leo’s, “On my way to the SCOTUS one day…..?”

  106. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    might need to send Blago soap on a rope….. so he don’t drop it

  107. Tenacity Says:

    Once you go dark………….


  108. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I was on a blog tonight…… just reading…. I laughed my butt off when someone said we should all send Bo a pair of our old shoes……
    think he would get the hint?

  109. sba1872 Says:

    Ed Hale is both entertaining and pathetic. He’s always fighting with someone to the detriment of the cause. Infighting is beyond stupid. Probably has something to do with his enormous need for attention. Occupational hazard of a radio host, I guess.

  110. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    never did care for dark……..


  111. Tenacity Says:

    Saw the Klingon MO…her best picture ever!

    Saw Leo’s final post…too freaky! I think he’s going underground but not quitting like he acted. He is sandbagging.

  112. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    agree….. but there is some good people over there (plains chat).. late at night..when this place goes quiet I sometimes head over there if I still can’t sleep

  113. Tenacity Says:

    He’s gonna need more than soap on a rope to protect him.

  114. sba1872 Says:


    Re Leo, ITA. He’s sung his swan song before. But he’s a performer. Can’t resist coming out for more encores. He’ll be back.

  115. j.b. Says:

    He’s stupider than I thought.

    justanamericancindy4 Says:

    February 4, 2009 at 8:47 am
    I was on a blog tonight…… just reading…. I laughed my butt off when someone said we should all send Bo a pair of our old shoes……
    think he would get the hint?

    I don’t.

  116. Tenacity Says:

    need sleep…’night all.

  117. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    lol i can’t go there……. just too wrong……

  118. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    you don’t get the shoe thing?

  119. j.b. Says:

    I kinda like Blago…… a sick, narcisistic adoring, pathetic kinda way. Awwwwwww.
    Cracks me up the way peeps go on about his hair. He has a low hairline! That’s it. Can’t help it. Anyone know who Judge Napolitano is? He has the same damn hair-do, ‘cept he combs his back. Blagos is TOO thick for that so,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it’s just silly, really.

  120. sba1872 Says:

    Have to get up in a few hours myself. Night, all.

  121. j.b. Says:


  122. j.b. Says:

    g’night, sba.

  123. Tenacity Says:

    Patraeus may just kick his butt. He’s not up against McCain anymore. There are a bunch of people in the military that are not afraid to show this clown for what he really is. With the states taking action, it helps support the military and vice versa.

  124. j.b. Says:

    See ya, Ten. Geez, g’night Mary Ellen…….

  125. j.b. Says:

    I hope so, Ten, I hope so. Now get some sleep! 🙂

  126. Tenacity Says:

    ‘night John Boy

  127. j.b. Says:

    Tuesday, February 3, 2009 at 5:28 am
    God, I know! Isn’t it sad that Americans have to rely on Russians to get some little flakes of truth in the news??
    Yet all these trolls think America has just entered a “Golden Age”.
    In the Seventies we used to have “Fallout Drills” in school, and we would all scuffle under our desks and hide in coat closets for fear of the wicked evil RUSSIANS!!
    Today they are our best news source. THANKS ALOT RETARD LIBERALS.

    I like this one from Fishleg. Annnnnnnd, I would like to dedicate to our long lost poster , Foxtrot. 🙂

    *no I am not calling her a retard, Fishleg did* NTTAWWT.

  128. j.b. Says:

    JAC!?! Anything worhtwhile at Obamacrimes?

  129. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    remember Bush last month….. that Muslim threw those shoes at him?

    to a Muslim shoes and feet are a high insult to another person.

    plus it could stand for we want him kicked out of office 🙂

  130. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    getting them to send letters about in support of the states 10th amendment thing… and to get their state to do the same thing…

    odd though…. pages of posts disapeared….. about 16 of them earlier

  131. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    night Ten………. dream of Troy’s Llamas 🙂

  132. j.b. Says:
    From Uncle Ted (not Kennnedy)

    jac, what pages from where? And I’m going to bed, too. It’s friggin late in the mornin’! Early, whatever.

  133. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    about 16 pages of posts disapeared from obamacrimes…

    night…. I need to head to bed soon myself

  134. Tenacity Says:

    Go to the new Berg Blog at

  135. Tenacity Says:

    I don’t know how that screwed up cause I cut and pasted.

    This is the correct link:

  136. ddlew2 Says:

    Did Ed Hale ever produce the Obama Indonesian passport?

  137. Tenacity Says:

    Haven’t heard anything about it since he left his microphone on by accident. LOL

    Pidgeon and others were supposed to have it, but Hale wasn’t supposed to open his big trap.

  138. NEConservative Says:

    More efforts to undermine the Constitution by BO…. this article was written by Cliff Kincaid

    The liberal Brookings Institution has come up with a controversial way to get costly and unpopular treaties ratified by the U.S. Senate. Their answer is to bypass the constitutional requirement that treaties obtain two-thirds of the vote of the Senate before passage by redefining the treaties as statutes. Then, they would only need a bare majority for passage in both Houses of Congress, which just happen to be controlled by Democrats.

    Such an approach would mean quicker and easier passage of controversial and expensive measures that, if debated as treaties in the Senate, might take too long and upset and alarm too many Americans.

    By submitting a new global warming treaty as a statute, the Brookings scholars argue, the Congress can act more quickly on the measure.

    They specifically cite a U.N. climate conference scheduled for December, “when the international community is scheduled to gather in Copenhagen, Denmark, to negotiate a replacement for the 1997 Kyoto Protocol.” The new agreement that comes out of this, they suggest, should be a statute, not a treaty, even though the 1997 Kyoto Protocol was a treaty.

    Brookings scholars William J. Antholis and Nigel Purvis say that the U.S. must quickly transform its domestic and international energy policy and come into line with international demands. “To reclaim global leadership, the United States must show the world proof that it has the political will to curb greenhouse gases,” they say.

    The “political will” would be a power grab by Obama and his liberal allies in Congress. Left unsaid is the fact that this is obviously a way to cut conservative Republican Senators out of the process and forge a bare majority of Senators in favor of controversial treaties.

    They say that, “…in consultation with Congress, the president would decide that future climate and energy agreements are to be approved by the United States by statute rather than as treaties.” In other words, Obama would decide, after getting the approval of leading Democrats in Congress, that he won’t submit the new U.N. climate treaty as a treaty. Instead, he would submit it as just a statute. This would obviously make passage much easier.

    They argue that all of this can be accomplished under the rubric of a new “Climate Protection Authority” that Obama should adopt.

    “Domestically, the president’s public approval and congressional majorities may never be as high,” they note, in an obvious reference to Obama’s Democratic edge in both congressional bodies.

    The implication is that Obama has to act now, bypassing Senate conservatives, especially Republicans, by implementing the “Climate Protection Authority” and then submitting “future climate and energy agreements” as statutes rather than as treaties.

    It must be done now, rather than later, the Brookings scholars argue, because the prospect of “regulating greenhouse gases could fade if the economy continues to worsen.”

    In other words, expensive and costly prohibitions of energy use might be tougher to impose if peoples’ living and working conditions continue to deteriorate.

    This approach is needed, they argue, because other nations “distrust our treaty-making process.” They explain, “These countries are reluctant to make politically difficult concessions only to see the United States stay out of the agreement in the end.”

    Translated into common language, this means that the treaty process takes too long and the treaty may ultimately be rejected by Senators reacting to popular pressure.

    Antholis is Managing Director of the Brookings Institution, while Purvis, a former State Department official, is a Nonresident Brookings Scholar on Environment and Development and Foreign Policy.

    Purvis also runs a group, Climate Advisers, dedicated to “shaping the low carbon economy.” Its website declared, “Internationally, we have strong ties to government officials in the world’s major economies and multilateral institutions.”

    The firm is dedicated to helping clients, which are not named, to developing “profitable strategies” and identifying “concrete investment opportunities in rapidly growing international markets for carbon-denominated securities.”

    So he has a vested financial interest in seeing the theory of man-made global warming imposed on the U.S. and the world.

    Arguing for the abandonment of the constitutional requirement that treaties get two-thirds approval, they explain, “Statutes require a majority in both houses of Congress, whereas treaties require two-thirds of only the Senate. Federal courts have repeatedly upheld the constitutionality of bicameral statutory approval of international pacts. In fact, the United States enters into more international agreements this way than by treaty, including some arms control agreements and environmental pacts and almost all trade deals.”

    This point is at least partly true. For example, President Clinton submitted the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) as a statute, not a treaty, after he realized that he didn’t have the two-thirds vote in the Senate to pass it.

    This logic, of course, might be applied to other controversial treaties, including the U.N. Convention on the Law of the Sea, the Convention on the Rights of the Child, and the International Criminal Court.

    Will Obama do it? With the backing of a major liberal think tank with Democratic Party connections like Brookings, it might be tempting, even irresistible.

    Susan Rice, Obama’s close foreign policy adviser and now his U.S. Ambassador to the U.N., was a senior fellow at Brookings from 2002 to 2009.

    The head of Brookings, former Clinton State Department official Strobe Talbott, is a proponent of “global governance” who recently told the German Der Spiegel magazine that Obama attempted “to shift from an American identity to a global one” when he made that Berlin speech in which “he called himself a citizen of the world.”

  139. Tenacity Says:

    RE: Obamacrimes, Berg’s site

    Apparently the January 25th thread is not visible. Don’t know if it is related to the opening of the new blog site @ .us, a screw up by the administrator or a hack job. There were about 40 pages of comments on that thread.

    The administrator of the new blog has not authorized any comments yet. You have to reregister and wait.

    written by Philadelphia Roof Doctor, February 04, 2009

    written by Just plain Linda, February 04, 2009
    I got the new approval, just went over there to see if there was a notice about what happened here. Did the site get hacked?


    I have just checked the new site (I’m one of the people helping to set it up) and, as of this time, as far as I can see, nobody except Admins and some of the Moderators have gotten their approvals. The site should still go live sometime today. smilies/smiley.gif

    As far as what happened to the missing thread on this site, I have no idea, but I am trying to find out.

    Everybody: Please stay tuned on this thread, and I’ll try to keep you updated on what’s happening.

  140. Tenacity Says:

    People, PLEASE stop the speculation
    written by Philadelphia Roof Doctor, February 04, 2009
    Please stop the speculation about what happened to the Jan. 25 thread. There is probably a simple explanation, and you will be notified when we know the answer.

  141. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    State Initiatives

  142. Bob Says:

    Guys —

    Re: Kincaid.

    I think the Brookings Institute needs to go back to school.

    Congress has no jurisdiction to pass a statute that contracts with another government — that can only be done by a Treaty, which is under the purview of the Executive, with the Advice and Consent of the Senate.

    And Obama cannot surrender that authority even by consent to Congress without a Constitutional Amendment approved by Three-Quarters of the States. If he wants to, he should simply resign, because the kitchen is simply got too hot for him.

    Besides, Hillary would have to conspire in the surrender. Do you really think she would?

  143. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    A concurrent resolution to affirm Michigan’s sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States

    Michigan is now on the bandwagon

  144. rosettasister Says:

    Mark Steyn in for Rush

    One place to listen:

    Click on:


  145. LadyTexan Says:

    Beijing Plans to Infiltrate Mainstream Western Media
    By (translation)
    Jan 28, 2009 – 11:06:03 AM

    Boxun Exclusive

    In mid-January 2009, a week before Chinese New Year, the Politburo of the Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party held a meeting to discuss its plan for foreign propaganda work in the year to come. It summarized the past decade’s progress in co-opting international Chinese-language media into doing the propaganda work of the Chinese Communist Party.

    The Politburo decided that in addition to continuing its Chinese-language international image promotion, it plans to infiltrate and influence mainstream Western media. The meeting cited the example of the Russian former KGB officer and present tycoon who has purchase the defunct British newspaper The Evening Standard. This overt an approach is undesirable, the meeting concluded, and instead influential overseas Chinese in the media business should be utilized to purchase and operate mainstream Western media organs.

    The spring 2008 coverage of the uprising in Tibet by CNN and other Western mainstream media organs sounded an alarm. China’s Politburo concluded that it must counter this by infiltrating and influencing Western coverage of China and China’s image in the international media.

    The opportunity is presently ripe because of the downturn in the world economy. Many media organizations are in economic difficulty, even going bankrupt, and they can be purchased and it will look like an investment and business opportunity and not the attempt of the Chinese government to infiltrate Western media organs and influence Western popular opinion toward China that it is.

    Full Chinese report at:

  146. LadyTexan Says:

    Iraqi Woman Had 80 Women Raped & Turned Into Suicide Bombers (Video)

    An Iraqi woman had 80 women raped and then talked them into exploding themselves to escape the shame.
    She called herself “The Mother of All (evil) Believers” and was a member of Ansar al-Sunna, a radical Islamist group linked to Al-Qaeda.

    The face of evil– Samira Ahmed Jassim had 80 women raped and shamed them into becoming human bombs.
    Mastermind … Samira Ahmed Jassim confessed to organising the rape of 80 women so she could recruit them as suicide bombers. (Herald Sun)

    In case the Left was still wondering.
    This is the evil we are up against.
    It’s not George W. Bush.
    The Herald Sun reported, via LGF:

    A WOMAN suspected of recruiting more than 80 female suicide bombers has confessed to organising their rapes so she could later convince them that martyrdom was the only way to escape the shame.

    Samira Jassam, 51, was arrested by Iraqi police and confessed to recruiting the women and orchestrating dozens of attacks.

    In a video confession, she explained how she had mentally prepared the women for martyrdom operations, passed them on to terrorists who provided explosives, and then took the bombers to their targets.

    “We arrested Samira Jassim, known as ‘Um al-Mumenin’, the mother of the believers, who was responsible for recruiting 80 women”, Major General Qassim Atta said.

    “She confessed her responsibility for these actions, and she confirmed that 28 attempts had been made in one of the terrorists’ strongholds,” he said.

    Samira Jassim was arrested on January 21. She is allegedly linked to the Ansar al-Sunnah insurgent group…

    The Associated Press reports US military figures indicate at least 36 female suicide bombers attempted or carried out 32 attacks last year.

  147. LadyTexan Says:

    Eyes are starting to open up:

    For Obama, nominees’ exits take off some of the glow

    “It’s a really rocky start,” said Melanie Sloan, director of the liberal-leaning watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington. “He said this would be the most ethical administration ever, but to people outside the Beltway it looks like it was just words.”


    Read the rest of the article at:

  148. rosettasister Says:

    New Thread:

  149. LadyTexan Says:

    Cheney warns of new attacks

    Former Vice President Dick Cheney warned that there is a “high probability” that terrorists will attempt a catastrophic nuclear or biological attack in coming years, and said he fears the Obama administration’s policies will make it more likely the attempt will succeed. (snip)

    “When we get people who are more concerned about reading the rights to an Al Qaeda terrorist than they are with protecting the United States against people who are absolutely committed to do anything they can to kill Americans, then I worry,” Cheney said. (snip)

  150. susiezen Says:

    NE Conservative, our only hope in prayer is that all the democrats in charge of our future will stay true to themselves.
    Democrats being true to themselves means that they will, at any cost, look out for themselves.
    If the public opinion sways against obama in the slightest, watch and see how our liberal friends in both the house and senate think twice before blindly voting in favor of anything obama.
    It is a reality that most liberals follow the polls strictly for self preserverance in their elected seats.
    Notice how hesitant some are on the pork pushing in obamas stimulus package….this is due to public outcry by both libs and conserves.

  151. susiezen Says:

    Also, it will not be so easy for obama to sneak his way into socialism…The public, for the first time, is HYPER-Aware of whats going on in the political world.
    Im noticing the polls of viewership go up on news regarding our economy. People have too much at stake, along with all the fears being pushed around.
    Even your ordinary joe is taking notice.
    Everyone I comment to on the state of America, I usually get a semi-aware answer back. Thats unheard of considering a majority of our citizens just last year were blinded by a lazy knowledge of current events. clouded by lies coming from major news stations.

    Obama, having spent his tiny career in that era of ignorance in America is getting blindsided by the publics new interest in his business. HAHA….he thought he might have slipped america a mickey with the mantra of change….what he wasnt privvy to was that lots and lots of Americans dont trust him, even ones who voted for him. rose and all you bloggers, keep up the good work…I think you reach more people than ever.

  152. rosettasister Says:

    Hi, susie! We’re over here now.

    New Thread:

  153. susiezen Says:

    doesnt it just kill you to know that when it comes to MONEY and the economy, most americans get involved.

    But if your talking about terorist…Gitmo….threats against America…our SAFETY! they close their ears!!!!!!!

    has MONEY become more important to these liberal sicks than lives!

    It sure seems that way, talk depression and people freak….talk nuclear holocaust and they shrug their shoulders.

    democrats= MONEY!..greed, gluttony,selfish shallow hollow souls. DEADLY SINS.

    Republicans= LIFE! and how to keep it safe. GODS GIFT!!!

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