“Russia says ready to work with U.S. on Afghanistan” By Denis Dyomkin



Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and Vladimir Putin

Translation: You need us more than we need you. Just forget about Georgia.



Cooperation on Afghanistan has been the most successful project uniting NATO and Russia, whose relations froze after Moscow‘s brief war in Georgia last August.

Before the war, Russia agreed to allow non-military NATO supplies to be delivered to Afghanistan across its territory bypassing Pakistan, where supply convoys face security risks.

NATO and Russia are expected to hold on Monday the first session of their council since the South Ossetia war. Russian officials have made clear the fate of the Afghan transit depends on how relations between Moscow and the alliance develop.

Medvedev’s overtures to Obama are part of an effort by the Kremlin to use change in the White House to mend bilateral relations.

Russia, alarmed by a threat from Afghanistan’s Taliban rulers to its Central Asian allies, had backed a U.S. drive to topple them in 2001.

But it later became more critical of the U.S.-led operation in Afghanistan saying it had stopped short of stabilizing the country and failed to lessen the threat of Islamic radicalism and drug trafficking.

“The number of radicals is not declining in Afghanistan,” Medvedev said. “Poverty continues to produce terrorism.”

From RussiaToday

Russian President Medvedev is holding talks on energy and security during the second day of his visit to Uzbekistan, one of Russia‘s key partners in Central Asia.

Phil Berg Barack Obama Ron Polarik Jeff Schreiber

113 Responses to ““Russia says ready to work with U.S. on Afghanistan” By Denis Dyomkin”

  1. jc Says:

    Hey Rosetta gang. This blog is my favorite so I want to bounce something off of all of you. I was feeling “foxy” today(yes, I miss reading her posts even if she is on the opposite side of the fence on many of the issues) so I have taken it upon myself to define NBC.

    Blood and dirt.

    How can we get the NBC discussion finished and actually find an answer to the question? Can we leave O out of the discussion and just try to get our best and brightest pinned down to define it in such a way that even elementary school children can understand?

    Can we write and ask every official we can find what it takes to be a NBC? Why must we sue to get a definition of something that is in our Constitution? This should be basic and defined. We should all be in agreement. Everyone should be able to understand without looking at case law or US Codes. The founders understood without existing case law, codes, or additions to the Constitution.

    Has Mike Ritze in the new Oklahoma proof of citizenship bill written in a definition of NBC? It will be worthless without one.

    How can someone in a SOS office , in Oklahoma, or anywhere declare someone a NBC if we do not have a definition that is clearly known and agreed upon?

    As Americans we should demand to have this issued clearly defined for us and applied equally. We don’t need standing to have the definition resolved.

    Most people on all these blogs are waiting for someone of authority to define the term of NBC. What are we waiting for? I have no authority but am feeling foxy today so I will declare a definition.

    To be a NBC one must be born on US soil and have both parents be US Citizens. Blood and Dirt. All other combinations are suspect and can only be Citizens. I am not a lawyer and I should not have to be one to know the definition of NBC. Blood and dirt. It is short and sweet, simple and easy.

    Am I wrong? Tell me why? Can’t we get the SCOTUS to impart their knowledge on what are the qualifications needed to be a NBC without a court case? Do the SCOTUS judges speak and answer questions from citizens without lawsuits? On an issue so fundamental why are they silent?

    WAKE UP AMERICA. Since you won’t be bothered to find out the facts for yourself I will tell you. BLOOD AND DIRT!

  2. rosettasister Says:

    jc Says:
    January 24, 2009 at 4:34 pm


    Well, jc, you certainly have given us fruit for thought.

    I’ve been following the NBC discussion at Free Republic for some time now, especially where Polarik is concerned.

    And some there believe that the best that will ever come out of all of this is to prevent this from ever happening again.

    To put policies in place so someone will actually have to be responsible and accountable for vetting candidates in this area.

    Isn’t it absurd that we even had to ask the question, well whose job is that anyway?

    “I was feeling “foxy” today(yes, I miss reading her posts even if she is on the opposite side of the fence on many of the issues)”

    Yes, I miss foxy, too.

    Something must have happened, but I don’t know what that “something” is.

  3. rosettasister Says:

    Listening to Hugh Hewitt interview Mark Steyn always leaves me feeling a bit more upbeat.

    And I love his sense of humor!

    Listen here:

    [audio src="http://ht.salemweb.net/townhall/audio/mp3/c9b1f087-eeee-491a-b666-730d8e236681.mp3" /]

    01220901 Hewitt: Hour 1 – Hugh talks about the news of the week with Columnist To the World, Mark Steyn, and then talks about the lack of any stimulus in the bill for the housing market with Sandy Dunn of the National Association of Home Builders.


    “Mark Steyn on Day Three of the Obama administration, and he’s not impressed”


  4. jc Says:

    How can we prevent this nonsense from happening again if we never define NBC? It will only be a vicious circle of debate if we don’t start with the basics.
    I don’t want to be continuing this NBC discussion when O starts running for office in a few years.

    Until someone smarter and wiser declares a definition I am going with” Blood and Dirt.” A Natural Born Citizen must be born on US Soil and have both parents that are US Citizens.” Anything less is suspect and can only qualify as Citizen.

    I don’t care if I have to start a new party. The Blood and Dirt party if you will. If we don’t educate the public and make is simple we will never get this resolved.

    Anyone have a better or more correct definition I would love to hear it.

  5. rosettasister Says:

    “The Blood and Dirt party”

    love it!!!

  6. jc Says:

    How does one get t-shirts printed? or maybe some pins?

    Blood and Dirt on the front.

    Rosetta gang rocks on the back.

  7. rosettasister Says:

    “It was sort of a flat speech by Obama.”

    I happened to hear Hugh interview Juan Williams the other day, and Juan comes across surprisingly even-handed.

    Listen here:

    01220902 Hewitt: Hour 2 – Hugh talks politics with former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney and Fox News and NPR pundit Juan Williams, and humorist, columnist and blogger, James Lileks.

    [audio src="http://ht.salemweb.net/townhall/audio/mp3/88d97439-8899-4e33-98d2-9714a946828d.mp3" /]

  8. Troy Says:

    jc Says:

    January 24, 2009 at 4:32 pm
    Hey Rosetta gang. This blog is my favorite so I want to bounce something off of all of you. I was feeling “foxy” today(yes, I miss reading her posts even if she is on the opposite side of the fence on many of the issues) so I have taken it upon myself to define NBC.

    Blood and dirt.

    How can we get the NBC discussion finished and actually find an answer to the question? Can we leave O out of the discussion and just try to get our best and brightest pinned down to define it in such a way that even elementary school children can understand?
    Leo has already done that for us in a way that leaves no doubt….No sense in trying to reinvent the wheel.


  9. Troy Says:

    Tenacity Says:

    January 24, 2009 at 4:31 pm
    Can you give me a date for the unity discussion on Plains?
    Ten, I’m pretty sure it was this past Thursday night

  10. Troy Says:

    Until someone smarter and wiser declares a definition I am going with” Blood and Dirt.” A Natural Born Citizen must be born on US Soil and have both parents that are US Citizens.” Anything less is suspect and can only qualify as Citizen.
    That is exactly what the definition is and has been proved by Leo with the documentation to back it up….The retarded thing is that Justice Scalia’s own words and decisions back it up and yet the SC keeps tossing out the cases…Refer to Leo’s article linked above…..It doesn’t get any more clear than that.

  11. jc Says:

    Leo is my hero. His argument was so simple and perfect. I followed all his work from the beginning and forwarded it to many highly over- educated friends and family. They still don’t get it.

    My point is Leo’s case didn’t get traction in the courts or the court of public opinion. The masses don’t understand it. No one of authority validated his case so he left off to play poker and chess. We have to get the truth out again and it is self-evident. Blood and Dirt.

    A NBC must be born on US Soil to parents that are both US Citizens.

    Once this definition is understood and validated by anyone of authority what must be done will fall into place.

    But first we have to get our public officials pinned down to Blood and Dirt,
    and nothing less.

  12. jc Says:

    Can Scalia offer the American Citizens a definition of NBC without ruling on a case? Why can’t SCOTUS educate the public?

  13. rosettasister Says:

    “Russia says “ice thawing” with NATO: envoy”


    Russia’s NATO envoy Dmitry Ragozin:

    Ragozin said Russian intelligence suggested as much as half of NATO shipments through Pakistan is being stolen or destroyed by the Taliban and said Russia was keen to see NATO succeed there.

    “I can responsibly say that in the case of NATO’s defeat in Afghanistan, fundamentalists, inspired by this victory, will set their eyes on the north,” Ragozin said.

    “First they will hit Tajikistan, then they will try to break into Uzbekistan… If things turn out badly, in about 10 years our boys will have to fight well-armed and well-organised Islamists somewhere in Kazakhstan,” Ragozin said.

    The Soviet Union fought in Afghanistan for nearly 10 years, withdrawing its troops in 1989. Ragozin ruled out Russia sending troops to Afghanistan but said Russia needed to help NATO forces, acting on the U.N. mandate.

    “We have been there and did not like it. But everything we can do to back the realization of the U.N. Security Council’s resolution … we need to do,” he said.

  14. Troy Says:


  15. rosettasister Says:


    The strikes were the first under new U.S. President Barack Obama and effectively dashed any hopes that Pakistani officials were nurturing that the new administration in Washington will halt such strikes.

    Dozens of similar strikes since August have sparked government criticism of the United States, a close ally fighting the Taliban in neighboring Afghanistan and believed to be firing the missiles from unmanned CIA aircraft.

    Pakistan has repeatedly protested to Washington that drone strikes violate its territorial sovereignty and deepen resentment among the 160 million people of the nuclear-armed Islamic nation.

    President Asif Ali Zardari and army chief General Ashfaq Kayani were quoted as telling top U.S. General David Petraeus in Islamabad on Tuesday that they hoped the Obama administration would take their concerns into consideration.

  16. rosettasister Says:

    Thanks, Troy!

    Follow up on the letter to FBI from senator Lamar Alexander


  17. Troy Says:

    Ok, we have a new AOL Poll and it’s very telling.
    “Is Obama transparent”
    55% say NO
    36% say YES

    GO VOTE!!!


  18. jc Says:

    Thank you Lamar for passing the buck to the FBI. Does the FBI have a manual with the definition of NBC in it? And do they have the authority to vet the big O?

    Perhaps someone should pass on all the news and links to the FBI about the pages of discussion from months and months of research of all of America’s Patriots. Or perhaps we could just agree to the self- evident definition of NBC and educate all Americans.

  19. rosettasister Says:

    Say What?!

    “White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs says that they have Obama’s “birth certificate” and that we can see it.”

    “It it it reminded Press Secretary Robert Gibbs of that very thing too. He was joking about this this [sic] morning and said ‘You know we have we have [sic] the birth certificate if you if you [sic](Siegel laughs) want to see it . . . .’” Horsely then concludes his report by telling us how Chief Justice Roberts re-administered the oath.

    Listen to it. It’s at 2:39 on the 3:41 NPR sound clip.


  20. jc Says:

    Orly is a Patriot but she is only pursing the legal argument. I have to wonder if we need any of O’s documents. What we need is someone of authority to state what ,all of us who have been following the NBC issue for months now, what the definition of NBC is………

    Has any of our congress or judical branch given us a straight forward definition?
    No. That’s why we are like a dog running around chasing our own tails.

    If we could even get the Globe to publish the self-evident definition of NBC Americans may wake up and even put it all together for themselves. Wow does that mean the messiah does not qualify?

  21. rosettasister Says:

    Polarik Comments at Free Republic:

    To: Polarik

    …will you, in the spirit of your commitment to transparency, openness, fairness, and accountability, now provide all American citizens with the valid, concrete proof that you’re a natural-born citizen and Constitutionally qualified to be the President?

    No (see executive order at link)


    6 posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 12:04:43 AM by Smokin’ Joe

    To: Smokin’ Joe; LucyT

    This EO was created to allow Obama and the Dems to go after Bush in an effort to charge him with “crimes.”

    They don’t know it yet, but it’s going to blow up in their face as soon as any action is taken to reveal information in Bush’s records. The same type of records from the Bush Administration that 0’s legal team seeks to disclose to the public and the DOJ, will then be subject to disclosure for Obama’s Administration.

    19 posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:34:06 AM by Polarik

  22. sliderblaze Says:

    rosettasister Says:
    January 24, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    Say What?!

    “White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs says that they have Obama’s “birth certificate” and that we can see it.”

    haha, since when

  23. rosettasister Says:

    You guys will get a kick out of this photo!


  24. jc Says:

    OK now he has his birth certificate he wants to share. It doesn’t matter where he was born. Why? Because it is Blood and dirt. NBC is defined by being born on US soil to two US Citizens parents.

    Leo Donofrio warned months ago about him pulling out a birth certificate and trying to put this issue to rest.

    The big O can never qualify due to his fathers citizenship. We need to pin down the Supremes, congress and any other legitimate authority quick to the definition or this is going to be over.

  25. rosettasister Says:

    Polarik Comments at Free Republic (Part 2 of 2)

    To: Polarik

    I had a dream a few weeks back, it was so shocking it woke me up. BO with Michelle beside him was announcing he was stepping down – resigning – he was not constitutionally legal to serve as President.

    120 posted on Friday, January 23, 2009 11:41:55 PM by shield

    To: shield

    I’ve had the same vision, except that Obama claims that he has an illness that forces him to resign.

    143 posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:35:44 AM by Polarik

    To: mlo; thecodont

    There’s a whole birther mythology about this issue that includes a number of elements. These elements are almost entirely false. Among them are the claims that Hawaii only confirmed they have “A” birth certificate, and that anyone born outside Hawaii can get one.

    Wow, you managed to cram four fallacies into three sentences. First and second are the genetic fallacy and ad hominem: “birther”. Then there is the fallacy of petitio principii: “mythology”. Finally, the fallacy of accent: “anyone born outside Hawaii can get one”.

    140 posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 8:15:41 AM by aruanan

    To: aruanan

    Anytime one of these “Jerkers” jumps into their “Birthers” comments regarding Rules of Law, simply print the relevant Law and tell them to read it.

    Case in point:

    [§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.

    (b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate.

    (c) The fee for each application for registration shall be established by rule adopted pursuant to chapter 91. [L 1982, c 182, §1]

    144 posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 10:13:27 AM by Polarik

    To: Polarik

    My was not a vision….it was a dream and those types of dreams are from The Lord.

    145 posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 10:14:02 AM by shield

    To: shield

    All of mine come from G-d, also.

    146 posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 10:44:31 AM by Polarik


  26. rosettasister Says:

    SisterRosetta’s List of Pompous Asses


    Michael Medved


    I have a feeling this list is going to get very long!

  27. rosettasister Says:

    Updates: Lightfoot v. Bowen, Kerchner v. Obama, Ankeny v. Daniels, Gitmo in the Judiciary


    Dr. Taitz Presents Request for Retraction Against Talk Show Host


    Sen. Alexander’s Office Refers Eligibility Request to FBI


  28. jc Says:

    Does anyone have an account at obamacrimes? Linda Starr, Berg and the others should know about Rose’s fine catch on the NPR Gibbs statement about having the birth certificate and we can see it.

    Berg’s case’s will be over if Linda is correct and they are only arguing he was born in Kenya. I can guarantee if Gibbs show a birth certificate is will state Hawaii.

    SM FOYLE please stop stating incorrect law
    written by Linda Starr, January 24, 2009
    You must stop stating the law incorrectly. The correct laws you should be citing are NOT that he does nothave two US citizen parents. It’s that he was born in Kenya and his mother was too young to confer citizenship. If you keep on stating incorrect law, we will have a much harder time getting this to be taken seriously if people can come here and get the correct information.


    Of course I believe Linda Starr is wrong and it is Blood and dirt.

  29. calli Says:

    It is so ironic how Gibbs is now saying anyone can see O’s birth certificate!!! What about months ago???
    I did not watch the show on tuesday!! I was a little depressed until I tuned to Rush on radio!! He made me laugh and I thought there is light at the end of the tunnel!! Thank God for Rush, Hannity and now Beck!!! Obama has no right to suggest to people not to listen to Rush!! Never once did I hear Bush, Hillary, Mccain or Palin ever say such nonsense about anyone!! O can dish it out but then can’t take it when it is returned!!

  30. Tenacity Says:

    Can I have one of those labels that says “I Voted.”

    I am all in favor of a new party if that party actually has a shot at winning. The question is; should we consolidate to an existing party or start a fresh one. We need to pull a bunch of people together: PUMAs, Constitution, Independent, conservative Republicans and Libertarian for starters. If you look at the picture I just painted, it looks almost like the Republican party now. People recognizing that any third party vote is just a vote against the Republican candidate. When the Republican party puts forth a conservative, it wins. When it tries to suck up to moderates and Reagan Democrats, they lose.

    This is precisely why I believe we need to organize non-partisan well-regulated state militias. These “Committees of Safety” need to rally around states rights and citizen’s rights under the Constitution. Then, it won’t matter what party a candidate runs for. If they are not 100% signed on for defending the constitution and giving standing to the citizens (securing our rights), then the voting block will stand against them. In this way, we can achieve a turn over of the power mongers presently in office.

    I am thinking out loud here and looking for real answers. Thoughts anyone?

  31. rosettasister Says:

    Obama Irritated With White House Reporter – 1/22/09

    Here is video of President Barack Obama stopping by the White House Briefing Room just to chum it up with the White House Press Corps.

    At the 3:20 mark of the video, one of the reporters dares to ask the President a question, and Obama was clearly not happy.

    He tells them, “I can’t end up visiting you guys if every time I come down here I get grilled.”

  32. jc Says:

    When the Constitution is not clear on the definition of NBC, and the Citizens are left to wonder if the guy holding down the office of President qualifies does it matter if one is a Democrat or Republican?

  33. j.b. Says:


    I apologize if this is a repeat, but I know many of us were wondering “why” Barry did not attend the Ball that never was………

  34. rosettasister Says:

    Obama didn’t want to answer question about William Lynn.

    “Obama to Politico: No questions about lobbyists”


    “Brown Bashes Obama: Don’t Make Ethics Rules You Won’t Follow”


    BROWN: Now, that’s what he said two days ago.

    But, as we first told you last night — and, sadly, we are learning more about this today — President Obama already wants an exception to his own rule. You see, what happened is, there is this former lobbyist for a big defense contractor called Raytheon. His name is William Lynn. And President Obama wants him to be deputy defense secretary.

    So, the Obama administration now wants a waiver to its own rule, which basically means it is saying, we will mostly put tough new restrictions on lobbyists, except when we won’t.

    Really? Is this how it’s going to be? Please, please don’t make us all any more cynical than we already are, Mr. President. If you have no intention of abiding by your new rules, then don’t make new rules. That would be actual transparency.

  35. sliderblaze Says:

    Two ex-Guantanamo inmates appear in Al-Qaeda video….

    yeah cus, letting these clowns go is a brilliant idea….. wtf is the deal. we need to take out their balls and replace them with secret implants shaped like nuts. One a gps tracking device, so we can monitor where they are at, and the other one and explosive device to take them out anytime we want…… gosh, to i have to think of everything…lol

  36. rosettasister Says:

    I’m glad you’re on our side, slider!

  37. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    from the Obama File
    Eavesdropping Suddenly OK

    DuringThe Obama administration fell in line with the Bush administration Thursday when it urged a federal judge to set aside a ruling in a closely watched spy case weighing whether a U.S. president may bypass Congress and establish a program of eavesdropping on Americans without warrants.

    In a filing in San Francisco federal court, Obama adopted the same position as his predecessor. With just hours left in office, President George W. Bush late Monday asked U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker to stay enforcement of an important Jan. 5 ruling admitting key evidence into the case.

    Thursday’s filing by the Obama administration marked the first time it officially lodged a court document in the lawsuit asking the courts to rule on the constitutionality of the Bush administration’s warrantless-eavesdropping program. The former president approved the wiretaps in the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.

    “The Government’s position remains that this case should be stayed,”

    Will Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi now ask for Obama’s impeachment, like she did for Bush and Cheney? I don’t think so.

  38. jc Says:

    Great idea Slider,
    Who says this did not happen. Perhaps we could get this idea started and Al-Q would become so paranoid they would have to get rid of their own once they returned to their home bases just in case.

  39. sliderblaze Says:

    Unlike liberals, i have no sympathy for those who hide behind children and women and kill indiscriminately.

    I would laugh my ass off pushing the detonator to that explosive device.

  40. jc Says:

    I have been waiting for you. Can you alert obamacrimes about Rose’s awesome catch from NPR? I think this news is huge. If Gibbs wants to release the BC is must now state Hawaii for sure. Whether it is factual or not will never be known.

  41. sliderblaze Says:

    was gibbs talking about the COLB or the BC….? cus you know that they are calling the COLB a BC

  42. sliderblaze Says:

    Put me in coach, i’ll have this war on terror won in a jiffy

  43. jc Says:

    Gibbs said BC but he would be foolish to reissue the COLB or send people to factcheck etc….

  44. sliderblaze Says:

    jc Says:
    January 24, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    Gibbs said BC but he would be foolish to reissue the COLB or send people to factcheck etc….

    I would find it amazing that they would after spending all that $ on fighting the cases

  45. j.b. Says:

    This guy is a PUMA, I don’t agree with most of what he says but he has NO love for Barry. Anyway, lmao at his typical liberal crap in this paragraph:

    Admittedly, I am one of those who always despised Rush Limbaugh, but actually never really listened to him.
    So, I decided to give him a listen. Rush just did a sit down with Hannity, covering his thoughts on the new administration, Democrats, and Rebublicans.

    He now says he WILL listen to RUSH………….

  46. jc Says:

    That is why this is big news. BO new mouthpiece jokes we have the birth certificate if you want to see it.

  47. j.b. Says:

    sliderblaze Says:

    January 24, 2009 at 8:13 pm
    was gibbs talking about the COLB or the BC….? cus you know that they are calling the COLB a BC

    Well, if I had to guess or was a bettin’ woman……..I’d say, um, the COLB. But that ‘s just me.

  48. sliderblaze Says:

    cus rush makes the most sense and seems to be about 90% right on things. most people seem to find out that what they thought was liberal, really isnt at all, it takes the schools 12 yrs to brainwash the kids and half a life time to reboot them.

    they think conservatives dont care about the poor, or the envrnmt, and such, not true at all. it’s weird, some of my friend who claim they are libs, when i ask them the basic questions…realize they arent all that liberal at all

  49. jc Says:

    JB, Slider,JAC,
    Please weigh in for me. What is the definition of NBC?

  50. sliderblaze Says:

    born of two citizen parents on us soil.

  51. sliderblaze Says:

    it’s simple, the only term that NBC is ever uttered in the const. is in regards to POTUS

  52. jc Says:

    Thanks Slider! I concur.

  53. j.b. Says:

    rosettasister Says:

    January 24, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    Yes, I miss foxy, too.

    Something must have happened, but I don’t know what that “something” is.

    Rose, did you not see her parting shots, er, I mean, words?
    They included a whole laundry list of what is WRONG with most of us here, whom she used to think were intelligent, blah, blah, blah.

    She did show Big Love for JAC, though. 🙂

  54. j.b. Says:

    jc, you got it.

    Hey, does anyone have peppermintpatty’s email? I hope she is okay……….last we did hear, she was in the hospital.

  55. jc Says:

    Large disagreements over at obamacrimes today about the definition and law pertaining to the NBC issue.

    Linda Starr is berating anyone who keeps arguing two Citizen parents on US soil. Berg is not arguing this. He is going for the born in Kenya route. She thinks the Blood and Dirt argument is confusing the issue.

    With today’s revelation from Rose that Gibbs has the birth certificate if we want to see it. Berg’s cases will be sunk.

  56. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    NBC to me is one born to TWO American citizens (native, natural, or naturalized)
    Thus showing what the framers intended of non loyalty to another nation.
    And born in the US……

    Now, as written, this excludes McCain,… when clarity is ever resolved (amended) it SHOULD include infants born to ones in Military, as long as they return to US soil after their service is complete.

  57. j.b. Says:

    JC, if Gibbs has the BC, then I’m The Shaw of Iran.

  58. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    Linda does good research but she is a b!tch when it comes to those who differ from her opinion…

  59. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    lol nothing wrong with being loved 🙂

    Oh Fox and I had our disagreements, but we never crossed the line with each other….. that was the whole of the compliment… plus she said I make her laugh

  60. patriotamy Says:

    Check this out.


    Media posting outside of the US… hmmmmmmmmm

  61. patriotamy Says:

    It is on the columnists page. Just thought it interesting

  62. Tenacity Says:

    Sorry, I had to travel to one of my on site sales offices. I’m not sure I get your question about does it matter if they are a Dhim or a Rep. If I do get the question, the answer should be no, but (monkey) what does that have to do with my comment?

  63. jc Says:

    Thank you for getting Rose’s big revelation out at obamacrimes. I am waiting for the realization to set in that they are over if he provides a BC.

  64. sliderblaze Says:

    i think politicians should be fined for taking things out of context. if you differ on opinion, thats fine, but when you dileberatly paint something that someone said as something else, you should be repramainded for it. for instance, i could say, Not all liberals are assholes. and they could say i said all liberals are assholes, granted, i did, but, with a not infront of it, they to that to rush all the time

  65. sliderblaze Says:

    oh, that fine is because they are intentionally doing it.

  66. j.b. Says:

    Well, if Gibbs produces a genuine BC then it is over.

    On that very day; Monkey’s will fly from pigs asses. It will be historical and something to tell the grandkids for sure.
    I hope i remember to bring my camera, ‘cuz I almost always forget it.

  67. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Well, the one post that responded to mine….. said they are refering to the COLB as online…..

  68. jc Says:

    Why would Gibbs say he had a BC if he did not? If we had a real press corp they would be all over this.

    ten-refresh my memory about your comments. My point I was trying to make was it doesn’t matter which team we play for, if the game is fixed no one wins.
    If we void the Constitutional requirements for POTUS we are all in the same boat, and we are sinking fast.

  69. sliderblaze Says:

    One more thing, Byron. Your publication and website have documented Obama’s ties to the teachings of Saul Alinksy while he was community organizing in Chicago. Here is Rule 13 of Alinksy’s Rules for Radicals:

    “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

    rush responds…this is the last paragraph of his response. nice

  70. Tenacity Says:

    It is not over. Even if he produces a HI BC, he was still a dual citizen and NOT a NBC. Beyond that, we must fight for the constitution and the Republic whether Oblowme is in the picture or not.

  71. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    they tossed a bone with the BC comment…… to take the heat off… If they were ever taken up on it……it would be just like fauxcheck, a few in a room and no expert allowed…… in other words it means not a damn thing.. political rhetric

  72. jc Says:

    The NBC issue in not over by a long shot, but Berg cases will be over. He is not arguing dual citizenship. What is Pidgeon and Orly’s cases arguing? Donofrio had the perfect case in my opinion.

  73. sliderblaze Says:

    well, it just shows that they know about the issue and it’s catching on.

  74. Tenacity Says:

    j.c. et al,
    The point I was trying to make at 7:35 p.m. GMT was that forming a 3rd party may not be the answer. Rallying around the constitution is the answer. We need the well-regulated state militias to have any constitutional authority as states and citizens. That is why they were mandated in the constitution. Please read my 7:35 comment again and see if it makes any sense to you.

  75. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    there is a new case filed in NJ…… I read the 40 page doc the other day and it looked good……

    Burg,………… well I never liked how he did his documents…. they always looked scattered and not focused…..something a non legal professional might put together…….

    might not be a lawyer, but being a Realtor for 6 years I have read countless legal documents…… Burg’s never did have the right flow of fact and case law

  76. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    well I need to run to the store.. do some erands…… I will bbl~

  77. j.b. Says:

    Tenacity Says:

    January 24, 2009 at 9:00 pm
    It is not over. Even if he produces a HI BC, he was still a dual citizen and NOT a NBC. Beyond that, we must fight for the constitution and the Republic whether Oblowme is in the picture or not.

    You’re right and I agree.

  78. roving Says:

    This guy is very good. He has a couple blogs. One the 7 laws of the Obamnation


    the other, 10 reasons we fight against Obama. He has it nailed down.


  79. roving Says:

    oops. 10 reason we fight against Obama


  80. roving Says:

    my other post went into moderation hell.

    the 1st one, is called One of the 7 laws of the Obamanation.

    hes very good. nailed it down


  81. roving Says:

    one more time before I slink away…7 reasons laws…


  82. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Sound familiar


  83. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    O-bomb went from 83% to 68% after just 3 days in office!!

    (the sun is already peeking through the clouds, people) . . .


  84. susiezen Says:

    yeah cindy, just like all the laws he signed on his 2nd day, just a bunch of smoke and mirrors….he did not pass anything that cant be changed…people wont even be thinking about gitmo next year. the anti torture law states” for now”..hes throwing all his ignorant lefties a bunch of milk bones….wants to keep up with all those promises to his voters…it was all staged.

  85. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Since the Consitution was founded before the days of psychology, there’s no requirements that a candidate must past a “psychologically” fit test. Which makes me wonder:

    what if a candidate hid from voters the fact that he had suffered, or still suffered from, some form of mental illness?

    For Example: Narcissistic Personality Disorder,or (NPD) .

    Criteria for narcissistic personality disorder to be diagnosed include:

    1.Having an exaggerated sense of self-importance

    2.Being preoccupied with fantasies about success, power or beauty

    3.Believing that you are special and can associate only with equally special people

    4.Requiring constant admiration

    5.Having a sense of entitlement

    6.Taking advantage of others

    7.Inability to recognize needs and feelings of others

    8.Being envious of others

    9.Behaving in an arrogant or haughty manner


    It’s up the press to point out whether a candidate has or haven’t, released their medical records, which usually only pertain to the candidate’s physical fitness.

    Mental health records are a separate issue.
    I think this should be a necessary part of the new vetting process we are fighting for!

  86. j.b. Says:

    O-bomb. I like that! Unfortunately, buyers remorse will not restore our Constitution.
    Right, Ten?

    Roving, why slink away? I took a look at the list-looks interesting-I’ll have to read it later…….going out for a spell.

    OMGosh-I went to Barnes and Noble last night and was absolutely gobsmacked at the Barryin’nation of it all.
    Made me sick.
    Barry, Barry everywhere!


  87. susiezen Says:

    the only thing he cares about right now is getting his sticky fingers on the big billions….he needs the whole sack of billions to lather the REAL promises he made to the ones who contributed the big bucks. you know, the ones who donated $199.00 , 199 thousand times each.
    Can you imagine he wants ALL that money given to JUST the lefties, and without any real documentation on were its going, when its going, whos it going….and to think not ONE CENT is designated to ANY republican affairs, to be distributed how they may also see fit. rambobama is cutting every fight politician out of the mix……we needed more seats…acorn took care of that…and al frankenstien….its HORRIFYING……

  88. sliderblaze Says:

    [A]s nearly 100 of the remaining detainees are Yemenis, reflecting that country’s refusal to assure security for repatriated Yemenis, note that AG nominee Eric Holder is a senior partner with Covington & Burling, a prestigious Washington, D.C. law firm, which represents 17 Yemenis currently held at Gitmo

    from michelle Malkins site

  89. Katie Says:

    justanamericancindy4 Says:
    January 24, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    O-bomb went from 83% to 68% after just 3 days in office!!

    Hi Cindy – I tried the link on the politico site – here’s what I get:

    “Sorry but this page has either moved or cannot be found”

    Can you check the link? I’m sure it’s nothing to do with being scrubbed or anything odd like that…(snort)

  90. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    All that money BO is begging for now….. will not be available until 2010 from what I understand…

    ….. hmmmmmm just in time for re-election campaigning?

  91. justanamericancindy4 Says:



    but here it is again


  92. susiezen Says:

    Slider, just finished reading from m&m myself……scary, off to quite a start…the pres wants it both ways. full of poison he is!!!

  93. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    awwwww I copied the post from Obamacrimes….. sometimes the shown link it kind of shortened, I noticed.. ..bet that is what happen

  94. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    anyone click the link on the post at 10:07??

    dated 1964…. but hell ,..it spells out the now

  95. sliderblaze Says:

    justanamericancindy4 Says:
    January 24, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    anyone click the link on the post at 10:07??

    dated 1964…. but hell ,..it spells out the now
    there is a span in there i think starting with 14 or 15 that just nails it.

  96. Katie Says:

    Thanks Cindy – I needed something to make me smile. (Links from Obamacrimes have that weird shortened address…that’s exactly what happened.)

    83% down to 68% in 3 days – do I hear 59%? No? How about 51%? 45%? 32%? Anybody? I give it 3 weeks!

    Hey – anybody want to place their bets? Of course, what poll could you actually trust anymore…

  97. jc Says:

    I was joking today when I was ranting about the Blood and Dirt party. We don’t need a another party. It was a feeble attempt at humor. Both parties ran candidates for President whose eligibility is questionable at best. Now that fact alone is very scary. How many letters where sent out from legislators who cited factcheck as a source thinking all it takes is being born on US Soil and voila NBC. Factcheck clearly points out on the fraudulent document where Daddy O is from. People took this definition and ran with it. Someone has the facts wrong. Dirt is not enough. We need to clarify and educate.

    NB Citizenship should be self-evident. Obviously after all these years the meaning is no longer clear and we have been fooled.

    My point is I have been reading these blogs for months and we are getting nowhere. We are not going to be able to get any message out if we are not concise and easily understandable.

    NBC is born on US Soil to two US Citizens. Blood and dirt.

  98. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I read earlier that Bo is going to use the wiretapping clause as written by Bush Admin…..

    hmmmmm can’t wait to rub that in Obot faces,…… the ONE thing they absolutely hated about Bush was the wiretapping how it went against the Constitution

  99. susiezen Says:

    gallup currently takes their polls outside of

    as morris said, Obama had his people write up the proposal for the remainder of the billions wrapped up in a trojan horse.
    accorn will be very healthy….so wont chicxagos underbelly. by the end of the next election there will not be many republicans left

  100. Katie Says:

    justanamericancindy4 Says:
    January 24, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    anyone click the link on the post at 10:07??

    None so blind as those who will not see. You could show this to the Obots and they’d never get it.

  101. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I read about the Constitutional party,…. for about 80% they sound perfect……..

    but 20% of their beliefs ….. makes me nervous

  102. susiezen Says:

    woops, started writtng about gallup but it would have been un-pc

    im afraid there will only be one party….obamas war is against repubs…he’ll squeeze em out w/ money and media

  103. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Chicago is already asking for Boo coos of money…. they already get enough…they get almost all of Illinois taxes..
    I was born and raised in Illinois,….. still only live 15 miles from the border

  104. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    when you live in a box you do not see the box…obots live in their own world…… and everything else is wrong

  105. j.b. Says:


    January 24, 2009 at 10:31 pm
    [A]s nearly 100 of the remaining detainees are Yemenis, reflecting that country’s refusal to assure security for repatriated Yemenis, note that AG nominee Eric Holder is a senior partner with Covington & Burling, a prestigious Washington, D.C. law firm, which represents 17 Yemenis currently held at Gitmo

    from michelle Malkins site

    peeking back in-even though i should be leaving-
    -not ony that, slider, but,

    I heard today (on my radio) that the saudi’s have a TERRORIST RECOVERY PROGRAM. Yep, that’s where they send them (after Gitmo)
    to “de-program”
    wascally tewwowists.
    One of dem bad boys is now the (s’posed)
    LEADER of Al Q.

  106. j.b. Says:

    oh, speaking of Trojan Horses, how about those millions of dollars worth of condoms that are tucked away in the “stimulus pkg?”

    Yeah, I got your “stimulus pkg” right here.

    Well, youknowhatimean.

  107. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    maybe the stimulus pkg is french and gives a tickle….. lol


  108. Katie Says:

    How fitting! Over on Foxnews.com, there’s a story about: Obama: Quit Listening to Rush Limbaugh if You Want to Get Things Done”

    I clicked on the story to read the comments section. Guess how many comments are posted? Go ahead…guess! 666

    Can’t make this stuff up!

  109. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    be back in 20

  110. Katie Says:

    I’m over and out, too. Happy Saturday night all!

  111. rosettasister Says:

    Katie Says:
    January 24, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    I’m over and out, too. Happy Saturday night all!


    Happy Saturday night to Katie and to all!

    Until tomorrow!

    New Thread:


  112. susiezen Says:

    hey foxtrot, dont know if you check in once in a while, if so, hope youd consider coming back!.I personally thought you added interesting thoughts, ideas, beliefs to the group. I cannot and would not speak here for anyone, Im a bit of an outsider myself. but on that particular day I think all of us were on edge…heck most of the country was on edge for that matter
    just a thought…

  113. jc Says:


    I don’t know if anyone saw this document but it is very interesting and revealing.

    JeffM posted it on Citizenwells. Originally posted on oilforimmigration.

    From the Kenyan National Assembly official report from Nov.5, 2008.
    About page 3276 there are lots of comments about the big O. “son of the soil” , “For the first time, we have a leader whose blood is Kenyan”, and “Hon. Members, as you may be aware the people of the United States of America have just had a historic election where the son of this soil, Barrack Hussein Obama, has been elected the 44th President of the United States of America …”

    O’s blood and dirt belongs to Kenya. As Jeff stated, unbelievable!

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