“Lover man, oh, where can you be?”



Milt Gabler was an A&R man for Decca Records, and he signed Holiday to the label in 1944.

Her first recording for Decca, “Lover Man“, was a song written especially for her by Jimmy Davis, Roger “Ram” Ramirez, and Jimmy Sherman.

Although its lyrics describe a woman who has never known love (“I long to try something I never had”), its theme—a woman longing for a missing lover—and its refrain, “Lover man, oh, where can you be?”, struck a chord in wartime America and the record became one of her biggest hits.





Billie HolidayNo More”
Toots Camarata / Bob Russell

You ain’t gonna
bother me no more
Love just goes so far
No more
Woke up this morining and found
I didn’t care for you no more
Never felt so good before

You’re down to my size
It’s over and done
So honey, step down
from your throne
That look in your eyes
Don’t bother me none
Can take or leave you alone

From my window
Skys ain’t grey nomore
Not now
Here’s the day
That I’ve been waiting for

Got only one heart
One heart with no spares
Must save it for loving
Somebody who cares
So you ain’t gonna bother me
No more, no more





342 Responses to ““Lover man, oh, where can you be?””

  1. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    *pout* no fun being first when you’re by yourself

  2. Troy Says:

    I’m here too Cindy….I’m listening to Plains

  3. A Purple Patriot Says:

    I saw it Cindy! I’m right behind you trying to catch up. Went to check out the comments about Limbaugh and Hannity not vetting Obama… couldn’t find them tho.

    That’s what bothers me most about this. No one wanted to vet him when it mattered, and now they’re whining about it. WTH?

    I’ve been checking out websites and organizations committed to cleaning up the corruption one way or another, like WTPF. None are a perfect fit for me tho. I thought I’d post a few for others to check out tho.

  4. A Purple Patriot Says:

    Ooops – don’t know what I did but my last comment posted too soon.

    Here are some of the websites I’ve been checking out:

    campaignforliberty.com (I think this is Ron Paul’s)

    I’m just not feeling the Republican party these days, and a couple were very pro-Republican. But others might be interested.

    I’ll be checking out our state’s militias next… thanks for the tip, Cindy. That’s why I come here.

  5. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    hey guys….. was curling my hair….. hubby is taking me out of a late dinner

  6. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    that guy who lost his site today obamahub….. well he is changing formats…. he believes in getting out of office….. but knows he is just the tip of the iceberg..

    He is going to replace it with a government watch site…. keeping trace of everything Gov does and who says what…..

    a big project…. he has been getting a few volunteers to help him out

  7. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    A Purple Patriot

    it there .in the video…. haven’t found it in written form yet besides that post…..I will post just the video page….. actually a good interview..btw…..a two parter

  8. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Ok the written

    the video part 1

  9. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Ok the written

  10. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    the video part 1

  11. ddlew2 Says:

    Geithner CONFIRMED 18-5 vote.

  12. ddlew2 Says:


  13. patriotamy Says:

    Makes me feel like taking my money to the bank (sarcastically said) !!

  14. A Purple Patriot Says:

    For anyone interested in checking out the militia(s) in their state, here is a national directory for all states’ militias:


    I was very happy to find that we have a few active militias in my state. More than a little comforting.

  15. j.b. Says:

    Anyone know the details of the Obamahub site and it’s demise?

  16. Troy Says:

    I hope this will help to discern good information from bad info when investigating / researching various topics….It’s a long, but very informative read….Rule #1: Always remember that things usually are not what they seem….We live in a world of lies and deception and it is intentional….Good luck!!!


  17. Fernley Girl Says:

    try committee of safety dot org
    CPAC dot org

  18. Troy Says:

    Very disturbing


  19. Troy Says:

    Possibly six or seven suitcase nukes in the US.

    Is the goverment being held hostage and are following orders?

    I have heard it suggested before.


  20. Tenacity Says:

    That is http://committeesofsafety.org . Great place to get educated, especially about militias and their constitutional power. This whole mess has to be fought on two fronts: Power of the Purse and Power of the Sword – Just like Reagan’s principal of Peace through Strength.

    Where did you get that post by Iceman? He is right on and I want to contact him to see if he is connected in the right places. If not, I will help him.

  21. Fernley Girl Says:

    Iceman post came from obamacrimesblog.com/blog
    I think it’s one page back from the current page.

  22. Tenacity Says:

    This story of nukes and the government being held hostage might make sense if we were looking at a sudden radical shift in tactics on the part of the feds. This however appears to be just the next step in a plan that has been in place for 50 years and has its origins from 100 years ago. The pieces of this puzzle are coming clearer to me every day. Those backing the Federal Reserve own our federal government. You know the disinformation game. Any distraction from the truth, whether small or big, is good because it help keep our eyes off the real ball game. This is all about money & power. The game is for all the marbles…NWO. Next step NAU. Crash the dollar and nationalize to save the destitute nation.

    Anyone who has not watched this video, it is a great place to start your research (to quote Troy): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5232639329002339531

    If you are looking for answers on how to stop this bus that is now moving through democracy on its way to oligarchy, start studying anything and everything by Dr. Edwin Vieira. I.e., www. committeesofsafety.org or check out some of the video offerings at http:// wethepeoplecongress.org

  23. Tenacity Says:

    Thanks Fernley.

  24. Tenacity Says:

    This story of nukes and the government being held hostage might make sense if we were looking at a sudden radical shift in tactics on the part of the feds. This however appears to be just the next step in a plan that has been in place for 50 years and has its origins from 100 years ago. The pieces of this puzzle are coming clearer to me every day. Those backing the Federal Reserve own our federal government. You know the disinformation game. Any distraction from the truth, whether small or big, is good because it help keep our eyes off the real ball game. This is all about money & power. The game is for all the marbles…NWO. Next step NAU. Crash the dollar and nationalize to save the destitute nation.

    Anyone who has not watched this video, it is a great place to start your research (to quote Troy): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5232639329002339531

    If you are looking for answers on how to stop this bus that is now moving through democracy on its way to oligarchy, start studying anything and everything by Dr. Edwin Vieira. I.e., committeesofsafety.org or check out some of the video offerings at http: // wethepeoplecongress.org

  25. Tenacity Says:

    That was strange. I posted the above comment. It didn’t go to moderation, it didn’t post, it didn’t clear the comment box, but it said it was a duplicate when I hit submit again. I made a few modification and finally got it to post. It only had one active link the first time.

  26. Tenacity Says:

    Btw., the wordpress software provides the following administrative options: No links, 1 link, 2 links or unlimited links. These settings are on the admin page. They are not set at the moderator level. The same is true for posting clearance: authorize all, or first post or open posting…set on admin page.

    You are probably aware of all this, but you asked me to report my findings.

    Good posts today Rose…Thank You!

  27. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    back home……

  28. patriotamy Says:

    Hope you enjoyed your dinner JAC

  29. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    it was just Denny’s …. but what the hey…. he worked late and didn’t want me cooking……. he can be a good hubby sometimes 🙂

  30. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    hm I couild of told you that about the post settings….

    oh and the duplicate post…… that happens to me sometimes…… it usually posts to the thread…… but I usually copy the post just to make sure and just do a refresh……… but like I said it usually posts…

  31. Troy Says:

    If there was ever any doubt that Obama and his gang were a bunch of racist socialist cocksuckers, then watch this video so that the record can be set straight.


    oops!!!….Did I just call them a bunch of cocksuckers?…Doh!!!

  32. justanamericancindy4 Says:



  33. Troy Says:


  34. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I watched that video late last night…….

    he is pushing it,. if it keeps going this direction a racial war will happen…
    and it is their stupidity that will cause it

  35. Troy Says:

    yeppa…I’m ready!!!

  36. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    you hear about Obama was supposed to of been adopted by native americans back in May?

    making him a “natural citizen”
    that has been the talk today,….. but no ones seems to have a link or a clear understanding about what happen in May

  37. Troy Says:

    Whenever that “puss” comes to shove all he has to do is say the word and it’s whoopass time!!!

  38. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    hey Orly was in Texas today the attorney on a case…… of course it was denied on standing

  39. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    link for Orly and the Texas case


  40. Troy Says:

    justanamericancindy4 Says:

    January 23, 2009 at 7:16 am

    you hear about Obama was supposed to of been adopted by native americans back in May?

    making him a “natural citizen”
    that has been the talk today,….. but no ones seems to have a link or a clear understanding about what happen in May
    OMG Cindy, that is the largest load of horseshit that I have ever heard of…..It wouldn’t matter if the puke was adopted by GOD, he still wouldn’t be a NBC….Sitting Bull adopts you and so you’re retroactively a NBC?…WTF kind of logic is that?
    It’s sounds like the Obots are grasping at straws now.

  41. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    written by Robert E Eagle, January 22, 2009

    the bright side that if nobama was “legally” adopted by the native americans, as per

    But now we learn that Native Americans are given a great deal of leeway in such practices and that any Native American (including adoptees) becomes quickly and automatically a US citizen. Just present some tribal papers at a local courthouse and – VIOLA! – no green cards, no waiting periods, no tests, no oaths of allegiance, nothing. Instant citizenship

    the upside being is now when the truth comes out, he can be charged with treason

  42. j.b. Says:

    ddlew2 Says:

    January 23, 2009 at 3:47 am
    Geithner CONFIRMED 18-5 vote.

    Gingrich said tonight on Greta that, “it ain’t over.” The vote would be complete next week. He actually suggested that WE ALL CALL OUR SENATORS TOMORROW and tell them, (paraphrasing here) “NO on the vote for the non tax payin future tax man!”

    If that is true, I think we are ALL obligated to do just that.
    I’ll look further into it……..

  43. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    hey was just filling you in on the latest talk…….

    until I actual read something….. from a legitimate site…. this is something that I take with a shaker of salt

  44. Troy Says:

    Sitting Bull would have had to adopt him the moment he popped out of his mommie’s womb / marsupial pouch for him to have been a NBC.

  45. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I do know that native americans… have some special rights…but I don’t know much….My opinon if He HAD done that…… he would of had it all over his site……. making all arguements worthless

  46. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    hi J.b.

  47. j.b. Says:

    I think Jeff just fell asleep on his keyboard! LOL.

  48. j.b. Says:

    Hey, jac.
    That whole adoption thing was ceremonial. Period.

  49. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    ever here of a forbidden book? I won’t say the name of it here

  50. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    I heard it both ways…. shrugging shoulders I honestly don’t have a clue….. and I haven’t researched it

  51. Tenacity Says:

    Natural…by no other cause. ius soi and ius sanguinis. No other allegiance…Native born to 2 US Citizens at the time of birth.

    No way…No how…pun intended.

  52. Tenacity Says:

    ius soli…..God I hate it when that happens and with me it happens too much.

  53. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    hey Ten

  54. Tenacity Says:

    Yo Cindy!

  55. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I used to go to a chat site years ago.called SOI …but we won’t go there 😀

  56. Tenacity Says:

    Are you as dangerous as you like to appear?

  57. Tenacity Says:

    I didn’t ask that question…I don’t want to know.

  58. j.b. Says:


    And the empty suit of a narcisistic thug goes for a stroll, whoring for a few bonus strokes and a verbal hand job.
    He’s transparent alright.

    *when you finish reading the last sentence, think; That’s what Larry said.*

  59. Troy Says:

    I thought I would get at least one laugh from the “marsupial pouch” comment…..pffftttt

  60. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    nope nope nope me harmless….

  61. Tenacity Says:

    It’s Rose’s fault with the lead article. Maybe reading Sinclair has been a bad influence on me. I know, its Troy and Slider…I’ve been hanging out with them too much.

  62. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    lololololol hee hee

  63. Troy Says:

    awww….c’mon, I ‘m as harmless as a wounded grizzly.

  64. j.b. Says:

    Is a kangaroo a marsupial? I forgot. Sorry ’bout it.

    I had to bookmark those links,Troy. Those are (too) heavy topics for this little gal at this hour….

  65. Troy Says:

    or even a llama

  66. Tenacity Says:

    Marsupial pouch? Sometimes instead of laughing, my brain just moves toward the gutter. The flippancy kicks in…then I have to remember whose in charge and where He wants me to exist.

    I am a very strong willed person…my only weakness is temptation.

  67. Tenacity Says:

    Who’s …there I go again.

  68. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    owwwww you said Llama…… Ok let the jokes begin 🙂

  69. Troy Says:

    Hey Ten, it turns out that Texas already has a well organized militia….Me thinks that I will join.

  70. Troy Says:

    Who put the BAM in OBAMA LLAMA DING DONG

  71. Tenacity Says:

    Warning to all lurkers…or should it be voyeurs…Don’t look now. Anything that is said from now until 10:00 GMT is not expressing the opinion of the owners of this site.

  72. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Llama’s I think have little Ding dongs…. so probably not much bam 🙂

  73. j.b. Says:

    Get your minds outta the gutter and read this!

    Hope? Maybe some change? God I hope so……..

  74. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    I posted that up about 10 posts or so

  75. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Man I miss Fox,…. she could be a pains sometimes over the Dem/lib/hillary issue….. but she was family

  76. Tenacity Says:

    I’m tellin’ ya, I think the southern half of Colorado from the City of Denver southern city limit should annex into Texas. To heck with Cities of Denver and Boulder. I’m ready to be a proud Tejan. I mean besides, Shanahan is gone, the Broncos are a gravitational anomoly and the state went blue for the first time since I’ve been here because of Denver and Boulder. As it turns out, Colorado has some good militia units but lacks the statewide organization that Texas has. We are going to change that however. I emailed that Texas video to about 20 organizers in Colorado. Thanks for the link.

  77. j.b. Says:

    doh. guess it’s bedtime for j.b.!

    okay, back to the gutters………..g’night. 🙂

  78. Troy Says:

    And when your hand is on your heart
    You’re nearly a good laugh
    Almost a joker
    Barry you’re nearly a treat
    Barry you’re nearly a treat
    But you’re realy a crime.

    ***Pink Floyd***

  79. Troy Says:

    We’ve got plenty of room here for good patriots!!!

  80. Tenacity Says:

    Yes, but (monkey), Fox was accusing others of exactly what she was guilty of. Typical _____ … oops, I’m trying not to be political. We need for everyone that supports the preservation of the constitution and our Republic to pull together and beatin’ a partisan drum ain’t goin’ to cut the mustard.

  81. Troy Says:

    justanamericancindy4 Says:

    January 23, 2009 at 7:56 am
    Man I miss Fox,…. she could be a pains sometimes over the Dem/lib/hillary issue….. but she was family
    I don’t blame Slider for jumping her…Her Republican / Bush bashing was getting old.

  82. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Ten, Troy

    just be careful,….. some of those militia’s are hate mongers in disguise

  83. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Troy,…….. yes I know with FOX,….

    you hear Bush met with some Military today…. and it went extremely well

  84. Troy Says:

    The one in Texas isn’t…Just normal everyday citizens that care.

  85. Troy Says:

    In fact, the Texas militia warns aginst the week-end warrior types and looks down on them.

  86. Tenacity Says:

    Those would be the unorganized groups Cindy. The well-regulated groups are some of the best people on earth. By definition, a well-regulated state militia is essentially every citizen. A few full-time, some first call, some second call, but the 3rd call is everybody. Essential a neighborhood watch group is a militia group. The word got demonized at the time of the Oklahoma City bombing. Prior to that, it was a highly respected term.

  87. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Linda Starr is very Bush bashing,…. she blames him for a friends death
    over at Obamacrimes…. someone posted something very nice, respectful to a leaving president….. and Linda erased the post and went into a two post rant about Bush…. I gave her some shit about it

  88. Troy Says:

    justanamericancindy4 Says:

    January 23, 2009 at 8:04 am
    Troy,…….. yes I know with FOX,….

    you hear Bush met with some Military today…. and it went extremely well
    Yes, they are fond of Bush for allowing them the opportunity to win in Iraq and also for not being a puss after 9/11.

  89. Tenacity Says:

    I wasn’t aware Troy was jumping Fox. Why am I the last to know?

  90. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Anyone have any ties with the Free Mason’s …..
    I know they have their fingers in everything, including Government…

  91. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    Slider jumped on Fox hard,….. she hit a nerve

  92. Tenacity Says:

    Starr is a loose cannon. I’m surprised Berg allows her as much liberty as he does.

  93. Troy Says:

    I gave her some shit about it
    Good for you….Bush isn’t my favorite Pres by any means, but he isn’t the devil that the media brainwashed everyone into thinking he was.

  94. Tenacity Says:

    My uncle was a Free Mason. He would not hear how corrupt the higher ups were. The lower level masons are good public servants. The higher up guys are a cult and the lower level folks are blind to it.

  95. Troy Says:

    Supposedly Oblowhole is a 32nd degree Mason.

  96. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    I was nice, respective,…. even said she has the right to her opinoin…. but I thought it was wrong to follow BO’s example and censor what she didn’t agree with….. I did about 3 posts….. they were erased too

  97. Tenacity Says:

    In terms of the “Screwtape Letters”, the masons are a distraction from churchgoing-God fearing people. They don’t see it because they stand on their “good works” I’ve heard them say that they do more for the community and those in need than any church. They are oblivious to the cult that controls them.

  98. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Troy, Ten

    that is a shame,…. I know a local group here that is very against BO…. I was just wondering if the feeling was wider spread…..they would of been a good resource

  99. Troy Says:

    As soon as Oblowme allows a terroist nuke strike here in the US, the Bush haters will be wishing that they had him back.

  100. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    I know,…. I discourage my hubby from joining…..it does seem very cultish……. and they believe a bond to a mason brother is stronger than blood

  101. Tenacity Says:

    The Impostor in Chief is everything…didn’t he invent the internet? But I am sure he didn’t inhale that crack with LS.

  102. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    i have the feeling that we will be lucky if it is three months before we have an attack…… giving Bo just enough time to mess up what Bush set up to keep us safe

  103. Troy Says:

    I know they have their fingers in everything, including Government…
    Cindy, they are the NWO government within the government…They are the puppetmasters.

  104. j.b. Says:


    Good stuff…..Ann Coulter/Alan Colmes (barely) and Scott Judas McClellan on Dr. Friggin Phil.

    Ann wipes the floor with Judas and makes him eat it! The audience is showing LOVE for Ann, in HOLLYWOOD of all places.

    15 minutes……or so. See ya on the morrow.

  105. Tenacity Says:

    If he is a 32nd degree, you want to bet he skipped a few levels along the way? Show me his credentials…oops, I forgot.

  106. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I only know about some local members…. I have a friend that belongs……. that is about the whole of my knowledge

  107. Tenacity Says:

    Okay, my eyes are not staying open…manana.

  108. j.b. Says:

    I have been scared of that nuke thing, Troy, ever since they used it as a topic during a season of, “24”. Prolly gonna have nightmares now……

  109. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Night Ten, j.b.

  110. Troy Says:

    After seeing Alan Colmes again in that video, I am now convinced that he is a reptilian shape shifter….Lmaooo

  111. Troy Says:

    I’m outta here too.

  112. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Night Troy

    going to go cuddle with the hubby myself

    ohhhh lol and I agree about Alan

  113. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Here’s what
    written by HowieMi, January 22, 2009

    I did today. I went to the Post Office to get my passport ( we are going to Mexico). I filled out the
    form with my info and took it back and handed it to her ( knowing what she was going to say and I was ready for her). She says ” O K I just need to see your BC.” I said alright, give me your email address and I will scan it and send it to you. She goes ” no that won’t work, I need to have you bring it in here so I can see it and attach it to the paperwork.” So I say, well just print it off from the email I send to you, I said it’s ok our new president said it’s ok to do it that way now. She said well he didn’t tell us it was ok. I said yes he did say it was ok now to do it that way, that’s how he handled his BC for the job of POTUS. Then she caught on… and said we can’t do it that way. I said you will do it that way or I will be seeing an Attorney as to why you won’t take my BC online yet we have a POTUS that posted his online and that was good enough for the Govt. with him. It should be good enough for the rest of us. Needless to say I didn’t get my passport yet. This s**t just p**ses my off so much. We have got to do something they just can’t get away with this.

  114. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    From Obamacrimes
    The Super Bowl won’t let the military color guard stay and watch the big game?
    written by Dax Dushkewich, January 22, 2009

    My youngest Marine called me this morning. In the course of the conversation he made mention of being part of the Color Guard for the ceremonies at the Super Bowl.

    He has been part of other Color Guards at other games and has been able to enjoy the entire game after presenting the Colors.

    HOWEVER, this will not be the case this time.

    “The 12 man/women color guard will be presenting the Colors and then will be escorted out of the stadium and therefore not allowed to see the game.”

    Steven and the 11 others are quite upset about this and have asked that I see if I could contact someone and have that changed.

    “I’m emailing the NFL tonight, that’s for damned sure. I’m also posting links to this article all over the place. We’re gonna get this Crap straightened out.

    You can’t Wizz all over our military and expect us to sit here and take it.

    If it doesn’t get fixed, I’m boycotting the Super Bowl, and I’ll petition as many advertisers I can find to do the same.

    the very people who sacrifice so everyone can be free and safe and enjoy things like the Super Bowl have been downgraded now to novelty items?

    Our military is now a side show to perform at events and then just leave. forget this Bull! ..


  115. sliderblaze Says:

    GE profit down 44%… outstanding

    MN DRAMA: Court Rejects Franken Bid To Stop Recount Lawsuit… small victory

    Gibbs accidentally outs secret White House briefers… Amateurs

    Beck Hammering O on the re oath not on a bible….

    When does Directive 10-289 take effect?

    Point Two. All industrial, commercial, manufacturing and business establishments of any nature whatsoever shall henceforth remain in operation, and the owners of such establishments shall not quit nor leave nor retire, nor close, sell or transfer their business, under pentalty of the nationalization of their establishment and of any and all of their property.

  116. sdee Says:

    Troy Says: I hope this will help to discern good information from bad info when investigating / researching ……


    Troy, good link – thanks!. I thought about Leo’s assesment of his NBC cases when I read this:

    ””’When judges consistently deny the introduction of evidence that points to government collusion, we can also rightly suspect that judges are involved in this collusion””

  117. Troy Says:

    Oh…Believe me, they are definitely involved

  118. Troy Says:

    hmmm….let’s see…Doesn’t Orly have a case being reviewed by the full S. Court today?

  119. sdee Says:

    Troy Says: Oh…Believe me, they are definitely involved


    I just read Joel Skousen’s piece Troy – I cannot just believe you 😀

  120. sdee Says:

    but what we do know is that W appointed 2 of the judges we are assuming would uphold the Constitution…………..hmmmmm

  121. sdee Says:

    So anyone else notice Bo’s first act was to free jihadists yet not a damn thing to fight them? I’m thinking maybe our troops have blown up just a few too many and they need to refill the ranks.


    Bo is happy to help ’em out

  122. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Slider that post about the nationalization of business – PLEASE tell me where you found that!

  123. thinkingmom11 Says:

    OK I need to add Ayn Rand to my reading list….

  124. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I just started reading Freedom Factor – a kind of “Christmas Carol”story about what our country might have been like if the Constitution was never ratified…my “Need to Read” list is ridiculously long – I will never live long enough to read it all…
    And now for a glutton for punishment moment – any suggestions for my reading list?

  125. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Troy – that Joel Skousen is the nephew of the guy that wrote the book “The 5000 Year Leap.” That is interesting…

  126. sliderblaze Says:

    ok, its from the book atlas shrugged by rand, it’s directive 10-289 how to be changed from a free state to a slave state. i got it via Jawareport and reminded me of what rand described in his book with in regards to step to and the financial mess that was perp. by the dems. Remember, dems want us to rely on them, the gov. largely for things we should do ourselves. What is happening now, plays right into what rand wrote in the book.

    he who controls the money, controls the people

  127. sliderblaze Says:

    sorry…her book

  128. thinkingmom11 Says:

    thanks slider – I gotta read that book…

  129. j.b. Says:

    Hi All,

    Mom along those same lines (as far as the books you mentioned go) I plan to pick up “”The Last Man Standing”. I can’t recall the author, Glenn Beck recommends it. He also spoke of “The 5000 Year Leap”.

  130. sliderblaze Says:


    we’re screwed 09

  131. j.b. Says:

    I found this at CW;

    venice // January 23, 2009 at 8:56 am

    It might be helpful if I report something I reported last November .

    Bill Clinton appeared on the Canadian scene giving talks across this nation. I attended one of them.

    The theme of course was on the global economy and of it course it was very well attended. It was followed by questions by a former premiere of New Brunswick, and again the questions generally followed the theme, as well Hillary being appointed as SOS. There was consistency in the discussion until out of the blue the matter of American citizenship as it applies to the presidency came up. It felt very much like a planted question.

    I took notes so this is more or less what Bill said:

    Two hundred years ago when the Republic was created different conditions prevailed that affected the definition of the qualifications for the presidency.

    In light of the number of immigrants now residing in the U.S., it might be necessary to let someone who for example “who is 45 years old and who has resided 35 to 40 years, be allowed to govern”.

    He went on further to say that the Constitution will be amended.

    This is Bill Clinton warning those abroad (but not yet his own people) what is coming. It is an implicit acknowledgement of the current situation (and we all know they all know), but it also reveals what the game plan is.

    This is what Americans are facing and one way or another this matter of “natural born citizen” needs to be resolved. They know Obama is not, but are already putting in place legal changes. The onlyquestion now is how will Americans deal with this.
    zachjonesishome // January 23, 2009 at 9:03 am

    Hmmmmmmmm…………….can’t vouch for the truth of it, but, it sure sounds plausible!

  132. sdee Says:

    funny – I was thinking Atlas Shrugged, Anthem, 1984, and Animal Farm were all required reading in my high school.

    It’s not deja-vu, we really have been here before.

  133. igaveup Says:


    good list of famous free masons

  134. sliderblaze Says:

    LOL, Rush says he supports Obama, but not his policies….that is freakn hilarious

    it’s kinda like the liberal, i support the troops but not that mission….HAHA

  135. sisterrosetta Says:

    Not around today will try to check back later
    Be well

  136. susiezen Says:

    just reading some of your posts from last night, a bit depressing if you look at it all after being away for a few days.
    I fear the reason why Rand, Orwell, and and the likes are being mentioned is the state of things to come.
    I heard on my local radio station to be prepared for a rather large paring down of our favorite anti obama outlets….hes has a whole slew of hie posse out there hunting for any and ALL negativities directed toward him in the slightest bit. the talking heads say not to be surprised if even the little blogs in blogisfare are targeted.
    How, you say, can obama possibly take our rights away, thats one of our BASIC amendments. maybe hell basically amend our amendments… OH DEAR ME OH MY….pooh

  137. susiezen Says:

    Wait, imagine wanting to have sooo much power, that you even try to control what people are saying about you….were only allowed to say good, kind words about barry……now I know hes an insane freak……hes only going to get worse, the more power he gets, the more absorbed he will get in his nerosis…and to think, hes in charge of the world….suffering succatash….tigger

  138. susiezen Says:

    cmon. its fri, doesnt anyone get out of work early???

  139. LadyTexan Says:

    Hi Suzizen,

    I’m here at the moment.
    I’m from Texas and was trying to find the link about the Texas militias that Ten and Troy were talking about.

    Do you know where I can find it?

  140. j.b. Says:

    A British view

    An editorial from the London Daily Mail

    Obama’s Victory

    A victory for the hysterical Oprah Winfrey, the mad racist preacher Jeremiah Wright, the mainstream media who abandoned any sense of objectivity long ago, Europeans who despise America largely because they depend on her, comics who claim to be dangerous and fearless but would not dare attack genuinely powerful special interest groups. A victory for Obama-worshippers everywhere. A victory for the cult of the cult. A man who has done little with his life but has written about his achievements as if he had found the cure for cancer in between winning a marathon and building a nuclear reactor with his teeth. Victory for style over substance, hyperbole over history, rabble-raising over reality.

    A victory for Hollywood, the most dysfunctional community in the world. Victory for Streisand, Spielberg, Soros and Sarandon. Vict ory for those who prefer welfare to will and interference to independence. For those who settle for group think and herd mentality rather than those who fight for individual initiative and the right to be out of step with meager political fashion.

    Victory for a man who is no friend of freedom. He and his people have already stated that media has to be controlled so as to be balanced, without realizing the extraordinary irony within that statement. Like most liberal zealots, the Obama worshippers constantly speak of Fox and Limbaugh, when the vast bulk of television stations and newspapers are drastically liberal and anti-conservative. Senior Democrat Chuck Schumer said that just as pornography should be censored, so should talk radio. In other words, one of the few free and open means of popular expression may well be cornered and b eaten by bullies who even in triumph cannot tolerate any criticism and opposition.

    A victory for those who believe the state is better qualified to raise children than the family, for those who prefer teachers’ unions to teaching and for those who are naively convinced that if the West is sufficiently weak towards its enemies, war and terror will dissolve as quickly as the tears on the face of a leftist celebrity.

    A victory for social democracy even after most of Europe has come to the painful conclusion that social democracy leads to mediocrity, failure, unemployment, inflation, higher taxes and economi c stagnation. A victory for intrusive lawyers, banal sentimentalists, social extremists and urban snobs.

    Congratulations America! God help you!

    Just. Wow.

  141. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    from Orly’s blog


  142. susiezen Says:

    L-Tex, no, sorry i dont think they gave the info. Its very interesting though. If I happen to be on with either of them, Ill ask for you…..ps Love tex, lived there for a while, the only place in the union where I felt like you all really love and respect your state, like I was in a country of its own…my best friend lives in San Antonio. its a far cry from the stuffy north east….cant even were a decent cowboy hat without getting a double take. everybody is a hick if they show an ounce of country. oh well..good luck

  143. sliderblaze Says:

    Gibbs wont answer the question if the war on terror will continue and what they are gonna call it?

  144. hockeyfan530 Says:

    don’t know if this was posted yet. From Polarik

    I don’t want people to lose sight of the fact that the elephant in the room is still all of the forged identification documents that Obama directed his Campaign’s personnel and Factcheck’s personnel to post in such a way as to make it viewable and accessible to the entire public. There is no denying that the “Owner of this document” intended to provide full public disclosure to all Americans of WHEN, WHERE, and TO WHOM, he was born.

    FURTHERMORE, Obama chose to use the public display of this document, and the information it contains, to be his statement for the record, his Date of Birth, Place of Birth, and the names and races of his father and mother.

    On Oct 31, the Director of the Department of Health and the Director of the Office of Health Status Monitoring have personally seen and verified that Hawaii has Obama’s original birth certificate of record.

    On June 12, six months before the Proclamation of Obama’s original birth certificate was made, Obama his Campaign aide, Tommy Veitor. a document that he claimed was his original Certification of Live Birth (COLB). Veitor was instructed to send a copy of this COLB on Obama’s own website, to the Daily Kos blog site, to the Factcheck site, and to the Politifact website.

    On August 21, Obama also sent his COLB to be photographed by Factcheck who then posted nine photographs of the COLB to its website.

    There is no question that the birth record information contained in all of the scan images and in all of the photo images that Obama released to the public.

    HOWEVER, we now know that these images and photos were not made from an authentic document, but were made from a fraudulent document.

    Barack Obama had complied with our request to view his information by way of these documents

    But, wait…there’s more. These official documents are, in fact, forgeries used to gain access to the Office of the President. They are illegal identification documents that may have been used to enter the country illegally, to obtain a drivers license and passport illegally, and to commit acts of immigration fraud, consumer fraud, voter fraud, financial fraud, Social Security fraud, medical records fraud, admissions fraud, law school fraud, and every other endeavor requiring proof of birth, proof of name, and proof of parentage.

    Obama has committed 14 counts of document fraud: five forged images and nine forged photographs. Factcheck is the prime suspect after Obama for their involvement in committing fraud and conspiracy to commit fraud. I say, if we cannot knock down the house, then let’s knock out the windows and doors.

    Listen up,Phil: can we sue Factcheck and the Obama Campaign for fraud? We’ve got well-documented instances There has to be a way to challenge the forgeries themselves and those who created and proferred them

  145. hockeyfan530 Says:

    If berg can sue factcheck over posting a false document that will make news and prove that Obama is a fraud without obama having to do anything….Yipppppeee

  146. LadyTexan Says:

    Thanks Suzizen,

    I wasn’t born in Texas, but I got here as fast as I could.

    Many parts of the nation think we are hicks and rednecks, but that’s just Hollywood’s portrayal. Only a tiny fraction of Texans act that way.

    You can tell by Troy’s words that we are proud and strong, and don’t want anyone telling us that we need to conform to someone elses bogus ideology.

    The whole militia thing is a bit intimidating to me, but since Ten and Troy were talking about Texas having a well coordinated, non-weekend warrior type, I thought I’d at least investigate.

  147. A Purple Patriot Says:

    This is crazy. Unbelievable. How much worse can it get???

    There’s a link to the official govt report at the military dot com website.

    Vets Eyed For Health Cost Cuts
    Tom Philpott | December 31, 2008

    CBO Eyes Military Retirees, Vets for Health Cost Cuts

    A new report from the Congressional Budget Office shows why some military retirees and veterans could face higher out-of-pocket costs if the Obama administration and Congress take bold moves to reform the U.S. health system and to make federal health programs more efficient….(blah, blah, blah)….The 226-page report can be read online.

    Here are some options that would touch military people and veterans:

    TRICARE for Working-Age Retirees – Fees, co-payments and deductibles would be raised for retirees under 62 to restore the relative costs paid when TRICARE began in 1995. TRICARE Prime enrollment would be raised to $550 a year for individuals from $230. Retiree families would pay $1100 versus $460 today. Co-pays for doctor visits would climb to $28 from $12 and users of TRICARE Standard and TRICARE Extra would pay an annual deductible of $350 for an individual and $700 for families. Congress has declined to support such increases for the past three years.

    Fees for Active Duty Families – Dependents of active duty members enrolled in TRICARE Prime, the managed care network, would pay new fees equal to 10 percent of the cost of health services obtained either in military treatment facilities or through civilian network providers. Total out of pocket costs would be capped, however.

    To help offset these costs, dependents would receive a $500 non-taxable allowance annually. Those who elect to use alternative health insurance, rather than TRICARE, could apply the $500 toward their health insurance premiums, co-payments or deductibles.

    CBO estimates these fees would save $7 billion over 10 years and encourage Prime enrollees to “use medical services prudently.” It also would entice more spouses to enroll in employer-provided health plans instead of TRICARE. The downside, CBO said, would be financial difficulties for some Prime enrollees despite the cap on out-of-pocket costs. Also, CBO said, spouses induced to rely on employer health plans could see health coverage interrupted during military assignment relocations.

    TRICARE-For-Life Fees – The military’s health insurance supplement to Medicare could see higher user costs. Under this option, beneficiaries would pay the first $525 of yearly medical costs plus one half of the next $4725 of costs charged to Medicare. So the extra out-of-pocket cost for TFL users would be up to $2887.50 a year. This amount would be indexed to rise with Medicare costs. The change would save $40 billion over 10 years. But CBO said it also could discourage some patients from seeking preventive care or proper management of chronic conditions. So it could negatively affect some patients’ health.

    Tighten VA Enrollment – The VA healthcare system would be directed to disenroll 2.3 million Priority Groups 7 and 8 — individuals who are not poor and have no service-related medical needs. Estimated savings would be $53 billion over 10 years but Medicare spending would rise by $26 billion in the same period as elderly among these vets shifted to Medicare.

    CBO said 90 percent of these vets have other health care coverage. But this change could leave up to 10 percent unable to find affordable care.

    To comment, e-mail milupdate@aol.com, write to Military Update, P.O. Box 231111, Centreville, VA, 20120-1111 or visit: militaryupdate.com.

    How do you feel about this issue?
    Let your public officials know how you feel.
    Sound Off…What do you think? Join the discussion.

  148. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    anyone seen a post from lawdawg yet??

  149. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Thinking Mom

    hey do you go to watch movies dot net?

    seen your kitty icon in a comment section

  150. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Lawdawg has been very silent today…… this good news?…… or has lawdawg been an obot this whole time?

  151. jjones Says:

    Is there a case today? if so, which one?

  152. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Orly’s went to conference today

  153. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    the lightfoot case,…. the one with an elector and a retired Military

  154. jjones Says:

    AH… ok, thanks,
    so many now it’s hard to keep up

  155. Katie Says:

    And so we wait over the weekend…no word from SCOTUS.


  156. Lurker Says:

    Obama to GOP: ‘I Won’


    Challenged by one Republican senator over the contents of the package, the new president, according to participants, replied: “I won.”

    The statement was prompted by Senate Minority Whip Jon Kyl of Arizona , who challenged the president and the Democratic leaders over the balance between the package’s spending and tax cuts, bringing up the traditional Republican notion that a tax credit for people who do not earn enough to pay income taxes is not a tax cut but a government check.

    ~What an arrogant statement. Maybe Oblowhard should fire the Senate and run the whole show for the next four years.

  157. Katie Says:

    Lurker – I think they got the quote wrong…what he probably said instead of “I won” was “I am The One”. Now, let’s bow…

    On a lighter note…anyone want a good laugh? I think they should title this “A major blooper from Anderson Cooper”.


  158. Lurker Says:

    Obama Snubs Medal of Honor Recipients (Updated)


    Except this time.

    The president and first lady, for the first time in those ensuing 56 years, did not make an appearance at the Salute to Heroes Inaugural Ball. In attendance at the gala were 48 of the 99 living recipients of our nation’s highest honor. Of the 99 who are still with us, not even half are in any condition or possess the wherewithal to travel to such an event. And by the next inauguration, likely half of those won’t be with us.

    ~ What can one say? *sigh*

  159. Lurker Says:

    Katie Says:
    January 23, 2009 at 9:47 pm
    Lurker – I think they got the quote wrong…what he probably said instead of “I won” was “I am The One”. Now, let’s bow…

    On a lighter note…anyone want a good laugh? I think they should title this “A major blooper from Anderson Cooper”.



    Hi Kathy,

    “I won” and “I am The One” = Same meaning to that blowhard fraudster.

  160. Lurker Says:

    I found this posted on Larry’s blog. Very funny stuff! Dumb asses! LOLOLOL

    BevAnn said…
    OMG! How Did I miss this???
    I had tears streaming down my cheeks with laughter!

    Prank Calls made with the Obama Soundboard


    The orignals were made last September by las311 & posted on youtube!

  161. Gretchen Says:

    I figured early on that the whole API hoax was part of the O’s disinformation campaign and here’s what’s posted today on API webpage:

    Posted on January 23, 2009

    It has been interesting following the American politics. API feared that the new president would easily impose leaders on the Kenyan people. That fear has now gone after listening to the president’s inauguration address a number of times.
    The man is inclusive and he has demonstrated that when making appointments selecting even some politicians who were […]

    see API (Asshat Propaganda International) website for more BS.

  162. LadyTexan Says:


    The Audacity Of Dope

    Cops: New York dealers sold heroin branded with president’s name
    JANUARY 23–Add heroin to the scores of products that have been branded with President Barack Obama’s name. Cops in upstate New York this week broke up a drug ring that allegedly sold heroin under several brand names, including “Obama.” As seen in Sullivan County Sheriff’s Office photos, the president’s surname was stamped in red ink on small glassine wrappers that were peddled by street dealers. Investigators arrested five suspects for their alleged roles in the narcotics distribution activity. The branding of illicit drugs is a favorite of pushers, who have previously sold bin Laden heroin, Harry Potter Ecstasy, bricks of Teletubbies cocaine, and green-tinted crack in recognition of St. Patrick’s Day.

  163. sdee Says:

    Has anyone seen any movement on the legal blogs related to Grand Jury info Leo posted?

    I just put this on Leo comments section:

    Apparently an anti-abortion group in Sedgwick County, Kansas has been successful petitioning for a “citizens grand jury”. They may not have gotten the results they wanted, but in the case of BO’s NBC, visibility is the key


  164. hockeyfan530 Says:


    I just want to tell you that tonight’s show is on and it will be a DOUBLE WHAMMY OF GUESTS AND THE LAST GUESTS WILL BE A SCOOP. There will be an Attorney that will give us some updates on what he is going to do to continue the fight against Obama.

    The last Guests will be the lead Plaintiff in the Kerchner v Obama case that was just filed on the 20th and his Attorney Mario Apuzzo!!

    I am going to keep the first Attorney’s name quite, so that no one can contact him and convince him not to appear on the show, as has happened before. This is being done so that those that want to see us fail can’t spread it to other sources that are working against us. He will give us what time he can tonight as he does have other commitments. I told him that we would be grateful for any amount of time he gave to us. I am releasing Mr. Kerchner and his Attorney’s names because no one can keep them off of the show no matter what they say!

    All kinds of good things to talk about and it will be 90 minutes of hot topics, updates and fun. It should be a HOT, rocking show, as well as interesting. We will be discussing the things she would like to see happen for our Country, our Constitution and the swearing in of someone for President that is NOT eligible under Our Constitution to be President of the United States of America!

    Please post this on your web site, blogs or any blogs you are associated with or have access to and send to everyone in your address book. There will be another Fast Blast that will be sent 2 hours before the show!

    Link, schedule, call in number and times for the Show is below!


    Call In # 347-237-4870

    5:30 PM Pacific Time

    6:30 PM Mountain Time

    7:30 PM Central Time

    8:30 PM Eastern Time

    I hope to see you all there. There are 3 ways to listen to the show, they are as follows:

    1. When you get to the Show page if the show doesn’t immediately start playing for you,
    you can click on the radio on the right, minimize the page and listen while doing something else.

    2. You can enter the chat as a Guest and read what is being said while listening.

    3. You can register/log-in and chat while listening.

    The choice is yours.

    I hope to see you all there.


  165. Troy Says:

    I think someone earlier was looking for a link to the Texas State Militia site….Here it is:


  166. LadyTexan Says:


    Thanks for the link.

  167. hockeyfan530 Says:

    have any of you seen the Obama trading cards? LOL Ridiculous. Wonder if they’ll have a set commemorating his arrest?

  168. Lurker Says:

    hockeyfan530 Says:
    January 24, 2009 at 12:05 am
    have any of you seen the Obama trading cards? LOL Ridiculous. Wonder if they’ll have a set commemorating his arrest?



  169. ddlew2 Says:

    Lawdawg has spoken.

    Orly’s case was denied without comment.

  170. hockeyfan530 Says:

    I bought the whole set.

    It is so funny the crap they are selling for this bozo. My fiancee asked me to give him a chance. And i said OK, i’ll give him the same chance you gave Bush.

  171. jjones Says:

    Um… is anyone else having problems with youtube?

  172. igaveup Says:

    thanks to the poster of the “obama soundboard”.
    i just made a phone call to my lefty-code pink-obama supporter-mother and she listened for about 30 secs and asked “who is this” and hung up.

    i made liberal use of his quotes from his book.

    i did call her back and have a laugh, she didn’t think that hearing all the bad stuff about “whitey” was funny.

  173. Troy Says:

    I’m not

  174. jjones Says:

    hmmm… thanks troy.. I guess i just suck

  175. jjones Says:

    Heh… I guess BO will only require ethics standards when it’s convenient for him

    The Obama administration has given an ethics waiver for Bill Lynn, a Defense Department nominee who is a former lobbyist.


  176. whatafoolbelieves1 Says:

    Face it folks. The Democrats are in charge. They will rewrite any and all legislation to suit their needs up to and including the Constituition.

  177. Tenacity Says:

    Here’s the link to the seminar at a state wide muster of the Texas Militia.

  178. Troy Says:

    Obama tells GOP leaders to not listen to Rush Limbaugh’s radio show…..God Obama says, “You can’t just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done,”


    When Obamaggot gets thrown in prison he should be forced to listen to Rush every single day during his life sentence.

  179. Troy Says:

    I forgot to post the link above…Here it is


  180. Tenacity Says:

    Sorry Troy, I didn’t see your post on the militia before.

    Does Lawdawg ever deliver any good news?

    I found it interesting in that piece you posted that “Kansas is one of the few states that allows citizens to empanel a grand jury.” From what I saw in Leo’s article, Citizens have the constitutional authority independent of the other 3 branches at the federal level. Keep in mind that most of the suits that have been filed have been filed on a civil basis. A grand jury’s presentment is a criminal charge.

  181. Tenacity Says:

    What are the names of the people on MammaE now?

  182. Troy Says:

    Ten, Leo has the info on them right here on his site


  183. Troy Says:

    Attorney Apuzzo and plaintiff Kurtchner

  184. Troy Says:


  185. Troy Says:

    I think it’s time that we let every single (most all) Republican Reps, Senators, and Congressmen know that they are one breath away from being voted out of office by us, their own supporters / constituents….We need to tell them that we will vote for their opponents just to spite them….That we have been betrayed by them and will in turn betray them right back.

    I think some extremely harsh words are in order and I will toss in a few choice profain words so that my letters will stick in their tiny little brains…..Complaints and petitions have done no good at all….It is now time for threats and actions.

    If they are willing to sell our country down the river, then we should let them know that there is a much quicker way of getting it done by voting in their opponents and making sure that the Senate is 100% Democrats.

    Maybe that would wake them up.

    I’m in the mood for a civil war….I’ve had enough…Let’s rumble

  186. whatafoolbelieves1 Says:

    Obama is not my President but I don’t think I am willing to risk by life by engaging in civil war.

  187. whatafoolbelieves1 Says:

    should be my life not by life.

  188. Troy Says:

    Is the life of serfdom a life worth living?….Not for me it isn’t.

  189. sliderblaze Says:

    whatafoolbelieves1 Says:
    January 24, 2009 at 1:35 am

    Face it folks. The Democrats are in charge. They will rewrite any and all legislation to suit their needs up to and including the Constituition.
    that dont mean that we cant fight them every step of the way

  190. whatafoolbelieves1 Says:

    I absolutely agree with that slider, without the physical violence.

  191. sliderblaze Says:

    well, we’ll have to see about that and what transpires over the next couple of months. It’s not just O that is pissing people off, it’s elected officials period. It’s amazing that these guys have gotten away with such shananigans for so long and it’s all coming to a head, i can feel it.

  192. Troy Says:

    Waiting for the winds of change
    To sweep the clouds away
    Waiting for the rainbows end
    To cast its gold your way
    Countless ways
    You pass the days

    Waiting for someone to call
    And turn your world around
    Looking for an answer to
    The question you have found
    Looking for
    An open door

    You dont get something for nothing
    You dont get freedom for free
    You wont get wise
    With the sleep still in your eyes
    No matter what your dreams might be

    What you own is your own kingdom
    What you do is your own glory
    What you love is your own power
    What you live is your own story
    In your head is the answer
    Let it guide you along
    Let your heart be the anchor
    And the beat of your own song

  193. sliderblaze Says:

    whos on plains tonight?

  194. Katie Says:

    Troy – I always thought the state motto for NH (I think) “Live Free or Die” was profound. Since 11/4 it has even more meaning, don’t you think?

    Tenacity – I didn’t listen to the MommaE show tonight, but here’s Mario’s blog. http://puzo1.blogspot.com/ in case you don’t have it.

  195. whatafoolbelieves1 Says:

    I agree that it is coming to a head. Friends of mine are already arming themselves to protect their homes and families. It is frightening to me.

  196. sliderblaze Says:

    im not frightened at all. a lil concerned but not frightened. the concern lies with foreign threats while we sort this whole thing out. We have options right now but those options are wearing out.

  197. Troy Says:

    The above song pretty much says it all.

  198. Katie Says:

    Gee, Rush…when are you going to let loose and come out swingin’? ‘OR ELSE?” Did Obama just threaten Rush or the GOP??? We’re WAITING…!!!


  199. sliderblaze Says:


    poll on geithner

  200. Troy Says:

    Washinton needs a major enima and unfortunately a revolt, peaceful or not, is probably the only way to get the political turds flushed out….THEY ARE NOT OUR FRIENDS!!!

  201. sliderblaze Says:

    It’s funny, the GOP is in this mess because they ARENT LISTENING TO RUSH!!!!

  202. Troy Says:

    Slider, I opened the link, but there was no poll.

  203. Katie Says:

    Slider – 94,000 votes, of which 98% vote “NO”. Too bad no one is listening, and the tax evader will get a primo post in the administration.


  204. whatafoolbelieves1 Says:

    What can we do that would be equal to the BostonTea Party. Any ideas?

  205. sliderblaze Says:


    follow directions from there

  206. Troy Says:

    I don’t know how or when it happened, but the GOP has lost their balls….They are a bunch of eunuchs.

  207. Katie Says:

    whatafoolbelieves1 Says:
    January 24, 2009 at 4:09 am

    What can we do that would be equal to the BostonTea Party. Any ideas?
    I like Troy’s idea. A major enema to eliminate the turds.

  208. sliderblaze Says:

    Call your senator…..

    whatafoolbelieves1 Says:
    January 24, 2009 at 4:09 am

    What can we do that would be equal to the BostonTea Party. Any ideas?
    it’s gonna take, calls to senators…… campaigning….. and dare i say….marches. I’ll see if I can get ahold of repub. email lists, not just have people sign up at will, but dropping in on there email accounts as a call to action. They are thinking about reinstating the moratorium on the ban on drilling…it’s a mess

  209. Troy Says:

    whatafoolbelieves1 Says:

    January 24, 2009 at 4:09 am
    What can we do that would be equal to the BostonTea Party. Any ideas
    Yeah, one can purchase U.S. Constitution toilet paper online….We could do a good wrapping job with it on the Supreme Court building.

  210. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    make sure in your letter to tell them they are FIRED

  211. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I just heard in the news….. Illinois has passed a ban on schools having a moment of silence,… you know handful of extremist are trying to make the rules for everybody

  212. Katie Says:

    Troy – didn’t know if you saw this over at Obamacrimes.com blog, but thought of you and Tenacity.

    written by ICEMAN, January 22, 2009
    Life has taught me a lot, I served in the Army for 8 years. I lived my whole adult life by following the rules, and by my oath of office . Today i woke up and decided that i have had it. I made some flyer’s this morning about forming a militia right here in my town. I gave out 100 flyer’s and tonight 40 people showed up ( AND THEY ARE MADD) about the government and what it has been doing. I live in a town of about 3,000 people and we are going to try to get 400 people signed up by April 1. You all need to do the same in your towns, because history teaches us that dictators never quit. The power Obama has is frail and is mostly derived from Bushes failure’s and MSM. The only way i see out of this is a non violent show of force( SEE US YES WE ARE HERE) type of parade of a well organized militia.

  213. Troy Says:

    Did y’all see my post yesterday about the foreign student at, I think it was Virginia Tech, that takes a kitchen knife and cuts a girls head off….There were about 8 or 9 others in the cafeteria, where it happened, and they all just stood around and watched….Nobody lifted a finger and the dude wasn’t big and mean either….He was pretty much a little nerdy looking guy….The cops got there within ten minutes, but the deed was already done and the guy didn’t flee…They arrested him…The mother effers just stood there and watch this dude cut a girls head off….Unfreakingbelievable!!!!

  214. Tenacity Says:

    It’s all one party. It’s all one cult. Outshine them. Leo Donofrio

    There’s a mouthful. I agree whole heartedly. Even Limbaugh is talking about the moderate elite in the Republican party and how they are uncomfortable with the pro-lifers.

  215. sliderblaze Says:

    and uncomfortable with the “wal mart” “hick” “redneck” element of the party

  216. Troy Says:

    Their all a bunch of scalawags.

  217. Troy Says:

    FEMA camp, here I come!!!

  218. Tenacity Says:

    I believe Cindy posted that on another thread. I want to track that guy down and contact him.

  219. Katie Says:

    No worries Troy – because now we have a kindler, gentler nation. No more enhanced interrogation techniques allowed, so I’m sure that means there will be no more beheadings. Right.

    Makes me want to put the liberals wackos and their families in the same room as the terrorists and see how they feel about interrogation techniques.

  220. Tenacity Says:

    I heard that too Slider.

  221. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    lol hey I resemble that remark……. I like wally world

  222. Katie Says:

    Hmmm….looks like Diane Sawyer was at the same party as Andershon Cooper…hiccup. Someone must have spiked the KoolAid!!


  223. Tenacity Says:

    The Geneva convention was about treatment of prison from a sovereignty. Terrorist are not soldiers of a sovereignty. They are brainwashed nutcases led by an evil spirit. Anyone that doesn’t see the difference is deceived or complicit.

  224. Katie Says:

    Tenacity Says:
    January 24, 2009 at 4:39 am

    The Geneva convention was about treatment of prison from a sovereignty. Terrorist are not soldiers of a sovereignty. They are brainwashed nutcases led by an evil spirit. Anyone that doesn’t see the difference is deceived or complicit.

    …or, a liberal Democrat. What’s the diff?

  225. Tenacity Says:

    prisoners…here I go again.

  226. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I wonder if the Pro lifers would join forces

  227. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    you having problems fingering the keyboard again??

  228. roving Says:

    you can register and leave a thank you note to George Bush if anyone wants. http://thankw.com/

  229. Tenacity Says:

    I’m trying to get passed the partisan crap now. I have often said that there are only 2 kinds of Dhims: deceived or a deceiver…no difference Katie. However, now it seems that Leo is absolutely right…there is only one party.

  230. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    I’ve already been there…….. Bush should know we appriciate him keeping us safe it nothing else

  231. Troy Says:

    Hypothetical: A terrorist is detained and informs athorities that he has placed a suitcase nuke in an urban population center….Do you read him his rights?….Do you appoint a lawyer to him?…..Or do you strap him down and put molasses on his private parts and turn a giant sewer rat loose on him until he tells where the bomb is planted?

    I think the latter may get him to start talking.

  232. Tenacity Says:

    I swear I did not go to that party with Cooper and Sawyer. I’m just a bit tired and moving too fast these days.

  233. Tenacity Says:

    After I clipped a finger with the sword, I would tell him 2nd would be his privates and then his head would be severed. I would not give him long to think about it. They believe that beheading blocks their way to heaven. No head…no virgins.

  234. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I agree to mind games… i agree with not crossing the line to severe harm…..

    but ask yourself this…… if you had a young child….. she/he was taken and hid somewhere and the one who took the child is caught…… This person would not tell you were your child was and you had every reason to believe every moment counted……. what would you do??

  235. Tenacity Says:

    In fact, the ideal situation would be to have 2 terrorist so one could see that you weren’t kidding with the first one.

  236. Troy Says:

    I just wish that someone would let them in on the cruel joke that the virgins are virgin goats….Oh wait!!!….That could prompt more suicide bombers…Doh!!!

  237. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    i see venting is the subject tonight

  238. sliderblaze Says:

    I liked Bo Dietl’s suggestion….bullets dipped in pigs blood

  239. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    well just like with Achmed,….. (jeff Dunham) who said the virgins were female? 🙂

  240. Troy Says:

    but ask yourself this…… if you had a young child….. she/he was taken and hid somewhere and the one who took the child is caught…… This person would not tell you were your child was and you had every reason to believe every moment counted……. what would you do??
    See above post regarding the giant sewer rat….LOL

  241. sliderblaze Says:

    i loved how gibbs couldnt say it was a war on terror ….. how simple would it have been. Yes we are still in a war on terror. Fox news on Beck, Orielly, Hannity were hammering O on this issue all night long.

  242. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    it’s pig fat I believe slider… they believe they will go to hell if they touch it

  243. Katie Says:

    Tenacity Says:
    January 24, 2009 at 4:44 am

    I swear I did not go to that party with Cooper and Sawyer. I’m just a bit tired and moving too fast these days.


    You must have been at the party with Sooper and Cawyer. hiccup 🙂

  244. Tenacity Says:

    Terrorists are not soldiers. They do not face their enemy. They kill innocent people. The word itself tells the story. They are not signed on to the Geneva convention. They put a camera on their kidnapped victim while they behead them. In my book, they only have the right to speak the truth to save their neck. pun intended.

  245. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    with bush leaving that exec order as a surprise…… makes me wonder if chenney did the electorial vote count wrong on purpose

  246. Katie Says:

    Cindy – just curious, what’s your thinking on the connection between Bush’s E.O. and Cheney’s electoral vote count?

  247. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    always did have a problem with curiosity,……. I watched that video of that journalist that was kidnapped and his neck sliced slowly….. I can still close my eyes and hear his screams…..

    i never need to watch it again…… because I will never forget it

  248. Tenacity Says:

    I once had an Aussie-Blue Healer mix pup and of course it had a cropped tail. An animal activist friend saw it and said “awe, I bet that hurt.” I said, “No, we only did it a little bit at a time.” She did a double take and cringed. Yep…just what a terrorist deserves…just a little bit at a time.

  249. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Katie……. lol like minda

  250. sliderblaze Says:

    btw, on the Limbaugh thing, Just shows what a coward O is, saying something on a Friday knowing rush isnt on the air on till monday Pussy

  251. Tenacity Says:

    Do any of you believe that Berg will ever show all his evidence? Will it be significant?

  252. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I will have to go up and catch that link on Limbaugh… I haven’t read it yet

  253. sliderblaze Says:

    Also, on Rush, i know he dont wanna touch it right now, but all it would take is one mention of the Birth Cert thing…and boom, shit hits the fan for real!!!! O better mind his p’s and q’s

  254. Tenacity Says:

    I heard him on his show today as I am sure Slider did too.

  255. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Burg still has that criminal case…..i don’t think he will release anything until that either goes to court or is denied…….

    the day after proof is released is they day many will take that step….. most are just waiting for absolute proof…….. i have head that over and over

  256. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    head= read……. and no funny jokes….. 🙂

  257. Tenacity Says:

    Did you post that article by Krousen (sp?) or see his comments about Rush?

  258. Tenacity Says:

    Did someone say Llama?

  259. sliderblaze Says:

    i dont recall

  260. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    hey bud your Llama is here lol

  261. Tenacity Says:

    Are you and/or the hub going to the meeting in the Springs in the morning?

  262. sliderblaze Says:

    Prerecorded music at inauguration causes flap…

    Is this whole freakn thing fake…what the hell

  263. Tenacity Says:

    The article about interpreting the accuracy of news and where to find the truth today.

  264. sliderblaze Says:

    i dont recall that was me

  265. Troy Says:

    Barry has a llama in his pajama.

  266. Tenacity Says:

    Did you read it?

  267. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    give me a sec switching computers

  268. Tenacity Says:

    So Katie,
    No hammock videos today?

  269. Troy Says:

    I think this is what you are talking about, Ten.


  270. roving Says:

    Leo would like this passed around. Using the Federal Grand Jury to go after Obama. http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/01/22/the-federal-grand-jury-is-the-4th-branch-of-government/

  271. Tenacity Says:

    Here is an excellent piece on how to get reliable news today and discern the truth of what you see and hear.


    Just in case someone didn’t see this before.

  272. sliderblaze Says:

    Justin Riggs, blogger at YourFellowCitizen.com, received the following information when contacting Sen. Lamar Alexander’s (R-TN) office regarding the President’s eligibility:

    My anonymous source in Tennessee heard back from Lamar Alexander’s office earlier this week. A staff member was kind enough to forward his/her request for information on to the Federal Bureau of Investigation, so hopefully we’ll have more to report in the not too distant future.

  273. Tenacity Says:

    Lmao…Troy you are faster on the draw than me.

  274. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Ok back

  275. Tenacity Says:

    Say Roving,
    I posted that over at the WTPC Blog. That is critically important information. It may give a powerful weapon for the Continental Congress to use.

  276. roving Says:

    Tenacity Says:
    January 24, 2009 at 5:09 am

    Do any of you believe that Berg will ever show all his evidence? Will it be significant?
    I’m beginning to have doubts. Its getting to feel like the API site.

  277. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I watched that movie Changeling this evening…..

    set in the late 20’s the LAPD was absoluted crooked…. would toss people into mental hospitals just because they spoke up and caused trouble for them……. would shoot to kill…… corrupt to the extreme…..

    and it looks like this is exactly what we are heading for again

  278. Tenacity Says:

    You probably know that I was born and raised in Tennessee. It would be a great thing if Alexander really stood up. I wish I was willing to believe it.

  279. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    Burg has never said he had a smoking gun…….just enough evidence that would prove to a judge or jury that this isn’t TFH …. we just need enough to cause doubt…. then the proof is up to BO

  280. Tenacity Says:

    I believe I know a lot of what Berg has. I believe he doesn’t say specifically what’s in that case because it is a criminal case. I doubt there is much that hasn’t been talked about before he filed the case. I doubt Starr could keep her trap shut for long if it was really significant.

  281. sliderblaze Says:

    i’m sure by now, that every repub. official knows about it in some capacity. I already see frustration mounting on other issues besides this. I think that they are all just waiting for that one case to break through to be heard, then, it’s on. Trick is, breaking past that “discussion” phase…

  282. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I know this will p1ss off the lurkers…… but I wish Burg didn’t have the case…..someone else with a more refined past…… he has hurt the cause in many ways…… and his filings were not the best…

    But he is a hope….. and wouldn’t care if it was a total loon filing a case as long as we could get a judge to actually listen to all the evidence

  283. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    she was going on off on someone this evening because they didn’t like the E O that Obama made about funding foriegn Abortion…..

    they left the blog….. claiming not to return….. she is pissing people off..

  284. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I would invite people here….. but that would give way to the trolls…… and the trolls have left us alone for quite awhile

  285. Troy Says:

    justanamericancindy4 Says:

    January 24, 2009 at 5:37 am
    I would invite people here….. but that would give way to the trolls…… and the trolls have left us alone for quite awhile
    Yeah, when I posted the idea for everyone to vote on whether or not Rose should ban koyann and suggested that koyann and Al were one and the same, POOF!!!…No more koyann or Al….It has been peaceful ever since.

  286. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    we also had that 2 post loser… then he never returned….

    I see Roses mentioned once in awhile over at obamacrimes..

  287. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    we have also lost some

    Pepperment Patty
    I know many others…….. Hockey doesn’t even visit as often as he did

  288. Troy Says:

    I very much like our small, but sane group here….It’s like a second home and Rose is the best.

  289. Troy Says:

    Some people threw in the towel when Obama got sworn in.

  290. Troy Says:

    Hockeyfan still posts almost daily.

  291. Troy Says:

    Believe it or not sometimes I just lurk here because I’m not in the mood to post comments.

  292. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I always have the page up…….many times I go though my daily ritual of newspapers, websites, before I settle in and tell everyone hello

  293. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I like our group too 🙂
    Rose has let us have a cozy place here

  294. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    we all seem to be waiting….for someone to make the first move….
    if Orly’s case is denied…… then it will be awhile before any case makes it to SCOTUS

  295. Troy Says:

    The cases will continue to show up….Now that Obutthole is officially the usrper, new cases with a different twist will begin to appear.

  296. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    was looking around on the internet..noticed something interesting..two spellings of Obama. One is Barak Hussein Obama. The other is Barack H Obama…Barack Obama is the name on the franklin mint commerative coin..people should call franklin mint and DEMAND A CORRECTION OR A CLARIFICATION IN THIS MATTER! people that paid good money for those coins will be very pissed off if Barack is the wrong spelling and should be Barak..good way to HIT THE POCKET BOOKS OF ALL THESE VENDORS THAT ARE MAKING MONEY OFF THIS FRAUD…THIS IS A VALID

  297. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    the rest of the article is on Orly’s site

  298. Troy Says:

    It’s going to be funny when they find out his legal name is Barry Soetoro

  299. Tenacity Says:

    Gee, I’m all teared up…I love you guys…but can I have your Bud light? Okay, group hug.

    I just want to reiterate one point. Obama is the tip of iceberg or straw that broke the Llama’s back. The constitution has been under attack for a long time with or without the impostor in chief. Our Republic is in serious jeopardy. When Oblowme is taken down…who is still in the fight? We must seek redress…we must protect our constitution and our Republic. It starts with states rights & securing our individual rights under the Constitution. Committees of Safety/well-regulated state militias are the answer.

    We have to demand standing and be willing to throw the crooks out of D.C. if necessary as mandated by the constitution.

  300. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    THe Reps might speak up after all…. he is already really pushing their buttons…..a document or something just might leak out…..

  301. Troy Says:

    Wow!!!…Check out the latest on Larry’s site.


  302. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    we need a full fedge march…… get Pro life, Churches,…911 families….. etc all to get together to be one loud voice…..

  303. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    lol…… I might have to break down and actually buy a Globe…. $3.50 a pop now…….

    BUT i have noticed…… guess what doesn’t last long on the shelves..yep the good old Globe…….they are making a mint off of this

  304. Troy Says:

    That edition could be a nice collector’s item years from now after Barky goes to prison…If you buy a copy put it away somewhere safe to keep it in mint condition.

  305. Tenacity Says:

    I agree, but am getting frustrated. Look at how many OTHER parties there are. There are at least a dozen save the constitution groups and more springing up each day. It seems quite difficult to get any agreement on how to “Do Church”. I put it that way because it reminds me that there has been a christian church split once every 10 years since 1879, not over essentials but over how they do church. Each group led by someone or small group that sees their approach better than the others. I am trying to establish contacts in various groups to see if unity is even a possibility. I am all ears for anyone with ideas on this.

  306. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I kept the We the People full page ad in the Chicago Tribune…

  307. Troy Says:

    I am all ears for anyone with ideas on this.
    Don’t be stealing Barry’s lines.

  308. Tenacity Says:

    Early morning requires that I bid you all goodnight.

  309. Tenacity Says:

    Who did Barry steal it from? That guy is devoid of original thought.

  310. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    This all really started when it become uncool to have a belief system….
    it was PC to bend over backwards to accomindate just a few….they scream for their rights and we didn’t……

    Illinois just passed a law that bans a moment of silence in schools….
    States as well as Fed Gov is starting to pull their shit

  311. Troy Says:

    Ten, the unity is being worked on… there were some guests on Plains a few nights ago and the entire show was devoted to the unity topic….Unfortunate ly I don’t remember their names or website, but they are working to bring everyone under one roof…..The playback show is probably available at Plains.

  312. Troy Says:

    all ears??….get it??

  313. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    written by Linda Starr, January 24, 2009

    Factcheck might be sued on fraud. The reporter and Factcheck supported teh doucment as real and legitimate, yet they didno thire a document forensics expert to examine and verify it. This reporter made a fraudulent statement when he had neither the qulifications or expertise to know what he was saying. Voters in this country relied on their assertions as fact and were deceived. They didn’t say it looked legit, they claiemd it was legit. they are holding themselves out to be qualified to make such a judgement. Voters relied upon their assertions to the detriment of the country. We now have an illegal alien for pResident Select. I think a suit for damages in the amount that Barry raised illegally would make them sit up and take notice. Sue them on fraud and making false statements they had no expertise to make.

    geez didn’t I say something about sueing Factcheck back in early Nov….. but it fell on deaf ears……. ohhhh well

  314. Troy Says:



  315. Troy Says:

    Sue Barry’s ass while they’re at it ….He posted it on his web site also.

  316. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    Troy…. Guess he needed to learn some of Bush’s moves when it came to flying shoes

  317. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Troy….. hmmm I don’t think him as a person can be sued in a civil case while Prez….. (showed the faux)
    but it was independantly owned aside from him…… well that is different

  318. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    but if it was

  319. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    It’s going to be a bumpy ride!
    written by Dax Dushkewich, January 24, 2009

    Yes, we can! You remember that chant don’t you?
    How close minded is this new President?
    He wants Republicans to stop listening to Rush Limbaugh because Rush points out the hypocisy of the left and the bias of the media.
    Of course, Obama doesn’t want conservatives to hear an opposing voice. He wants everyone to just bow and grovel at his feet like MSNBC does.
    We have a right to dissent, remember?
    Those of you on the left didn’t have a problem dissenting when President Bush was in office. But now we are all supposed to get in line because The One says so?

    What President Obama is doing is telling America that his voice is the only one that should be heard.
    Of course, by “his voice” he means Greg Craig’s words repeated by Obama. Check out the presser footage regarding the Executive Orders signed to close Guantanomo Bay’s detention facility if you are confused by that reference.

    What Limbaugh does is not “just entertainment” he informs people of how the media covers politics and it’s effect on the society and culture of America.
    Did President Bush go on TV and tell people to not listen or watch Air America, MSNBC and Keith Olberman?
    No, of course not!
    America wasn’t listening or watching them anyway! We didn’t need to be told that.

    Mr. Obama is trying to silence dissent by threatening people!!!.

    What’s next? Tell us that if Rush continues to have huge ratings that he will be detained and shipped off to Club Gitmo for speaking out against the American President?

    That’s not as outrageous as it seems.
    The question you should be asking is why is this President wasting his time talking about a talk show host when he should be reading HIS Executive Orders?
    I mean,really, he sounded like it was the first time he was even aware of what the Executive Orders even contained. Makes me wonder, who is running this ship?

    The President or his lawyer?

    It’s going to be a bumpy ride!

  320. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    written by dobe, January 24, 2009

    So glad to see that you starting to realize who is really standing behind all this including poor narcissist Obama.
    People doing this think that it will be possible to hold six billion people around the world by throat, using all sort of tricks like positioning minorities on they side.
    If this ends up in some blood shed, civil war, or God forbid innocent black Americans being killed, just wonder who will be responsible and punished for that.
    Not people like Rahm! He will be living luxurious life somewhere in Israel by then.

  321. Troy Says:

    Good night Cindy….I’m outta here.

  322. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    night Troy

  323. sliderblaze Says:

    Bird … plane … UFO? Video of what appears to be a flying object at Obama’s inauguration generates Internet buzz.

    nice, so let me get this straight, we have a ufo that is cleary a fukn bird make it on the headline but we cant get a SCOTUS case make it once, even thought there have been a total of 30 coming through the courts….way to go a$$holes

  324. igaveup Says:

    this is a pretty long thread, didn’t read it all

    wanted to know if anyone had been to the pearl habor stories site?


    Obama’s supposed birth doctor retired in 1956. this link is from wikipedia.

    so much for teacher “nelson’s” story about being the “only one still around” that knows that barack was born in HI.

    wonder how much the obama team paid her?
    i knew when i read the buffalo news story, that she was full of bunk when i read the quote that barry supposedly said. no high school kid would have said that.

    if this had been bush, it would have popped up right away on the front page of the times.

  325. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    I haven’t looked at the pearl harbor stories….

  326. igaveup Says:

    it’s so touching that this doctor came out of retirement to deliver “the one”.

    (i’m being sarcastic)

    don’t these people that crawl out of the woodwork think that especially in this day and age, their stories can’t be checked out?

  327. jc Says:

    Good Morning!

    I do not post much. I do read often. Thank you everyone for the excellent information and links.

    I watched this video yesterday and thought it very good. I hate to think this is the road we are headed on but I believe it to be true. It is time to wake up before everything we hold dear has been taken from us as well.

    All our freedoms and liberties may be taken away one by one. If we divide and only protest for those freedoms and liberties we personally value most we will surely lose them all. We must fight and protest ardently for all of our rights united.

    It looks like a long rough road ahead for America’s Patriots.

  328. hockeyfan530 Says:

    Here is the letter i received from Claire McCaskill regarding barry’s eligibility

    Thank you for contacting me regarding President-elect Barack Obama. I appreciate hearing from you, and I apologize for the delay in responding.

    I urge you to visit http://www.change.gov to contact the office of the President-elect or find more information about the issues that are important to you.

    As for me, I look forward to working in the Senate with my Democratic and Republican colleagues to help the Obama administration tackle the tough issues confronting our nation. My votes are about keeping my campaign promises, doing what is right for the people of Missouri and voting my conscience. I believe that my voting record shows that I am independent and decide each issue based on its merits, not partisanship. You can examine my record at http://thomas.loc.gov/.

    Again thank you for taking the time to contact me. Please do not hesitate to contact me in the future regarding other matters of interest or concern to you.

    Well, not exactly addressing the question of eligibility huh? Pathetic and useless. I hated this woman during the election and i still hate her now. She states she votes on her conscience. Well, her conscience must be non-existant i guess.

  329. hockeyfan530 Says:

    did anyone listen to mommae last night? Curious as to what was said

  330. hockeyfan530 Says:

    so i’ll just wait here then? LOL


  331. hockeyfan530 Says:

    hey hockey,

    how are things in your neck of the woods? It’s colder than a well diggers ass here in St Louis

  332. hockeyfan530 Says:

    it’s cold here too…I’m from st louis too. What area do you live in? I live in the tower grove park area

  333. hockeyfan530 Says:

    REALLY!? That’s REALLY weird so do i. I live on Morganford! Where did you go to high school? I went to St John Vianney

  334. hockeyfan530 Says:

    Holy crap! I live on Morganford too! AND i went to S.J. Vianney too…You know, I always felt a kinship with you on this site! Your wit and insight always kept me on the edge of my seat! I find you fascinating AND I have a dog that looks just like your picture! god I admire you

  335. hockeyfan530 Says:

    I feel the same about you. Thanks. It’s like we are the same person…wait a minute, I think we might be! So what are you doing today?

  336. Troy Says:

    Are you hving fun?….Last night on MommaE was a plantiff (Kerchner)and an attorney (Apuzzo) for a new lawsuit….Leo has some info.


  337. rosettasister Says:

    jc Says:
    January 24, 2009 at 2:48 pm

    Good morning to you too, jc!

    And welcome!


  338. rosettasister Says:

    Good morning, America!

    Apologies for my absence.

    I’ll put up post I never got a chance to yesterday.

    A bit old, oh well.


  339. Tenacity Says:

    Good morning Hfan,
    It’s okay to talk to yourself, but answering is questionable. lol

    I only caught the last part of MommaE and didn’t really hear any revelations. Steve Pidgeon had been on earlier, but I missed him. I guess Plains was having a conniption over Pidgeon appearing on MommaE.

  340. Tenacity Says:

    Can you give me a date for the unity discussion on Plains?

  341. rosettasister Says:

    New Thread:


  342. jc Says:

    Hey Rosetta gang. This blog is my favorite so I want to bounce something off of all of you. I was feeling “foxy” today(yes, I miss reading her posts even if she is on the opposite side of the fence on many of the issues) so I have taken it upon myself to define NBC.

    Blood and dirt.

    How can we get the NBC discussion finished and actually find an answer to the question? Can we leave O out of the discussion and just try to get our best and brightest pinned down to define it in such a way that even elementary school children can understand?

    Can we write and ask every official we can find what it takes to be a NBC? Why must we sue to get a definition of something that is in our Constitution? This should be basic and defined. We should all be in agreement. Everyone should be able to understand without looking at case law or US Codes. The founders understood without existing case law, codes, or additions to the Constitution.

    Has Mike Ritze in the new Oklahoma proof of citizenship bill written in a definition of NBC? It will be worthless without one.

    How can someone in a SOS office , in Oklahoma, or anywhere declare someone a NBC if we do not have a definition that is clearly known and agreed upon?

    As Americans we should demand to have this issued clearly defined for us and applied equally. We don’t need standing to have the definition resolved.

    Most people on all these blogs are waiting for someone of authority to define the term of NBC. What are we waiting for? I have no authority but am feeling foxy today so I will declare a definition.

    To be a NBC one must be born on US soil and have both parents be US Citizens. Blood and Dirt. All other combinations are suspect and can only be Citizens. I am not a lawyer and I should not have to be one to know the definition of NBC. Blood and dirt. It is short and sweet, simple and easy.

    Am I wrong? Tell me why? Can’t we get the SCOTUS to impart their knowledge on what are the qualifications needed to be a NBC without a court case? Do the SCOTUS judges speak and answer questions from citizens without lawsuits? On an issue so fundamental why are they silent?

    WAKE UP AMERICA. Since you won’t be bothered to find out the facts for yourself I will tell you. BLOOD AND DIRT!

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