“He will give the Devil his due” (From Shakespeare’s Henry IV)




Cat People (Putting Out The Fire)

See these eyes so green
I can stare for a thousand years
Colder than the moon
It’s been so long
And I’ve been putting out fire
With gasoline

Feel my blood enraged
It’s just the fear of losing you
Don’t you know my name
Well, you been so long

See these eyes so red
Red like jungle burning bright
Those who feel me near
Pull the blinds and change their minds
It’s been so long

Still this pulsing night
A plague I call a heartbeat
Just be still with me
Ya wouldn’t believe what I’ve been thru
You’ve been so long
Well it’s been so long
And I’ve been putting out fire
with gasoline
putting out fire
with gasoline

See these tears so blue
An ageless heart
that can never mend
These tears can never dry
A judgement made
can never bend
See these eyes so green
I can stare for a thousand years
Just be still with me
You wouldn’t believe what I’ve been thru

You’ve been so long
Well, it’s been so long
And I’ve been putting out fire
with gasoline
putting out fire with gasoline





David Bowie – “Cat People”


Casillero del Diablo (Cellar of the Devil)

114 Responses to ““He will give the Devil his due” (From Shakespeare’s Henry IV)”

  1. Troy Says:


  2. Tenacity Says:


    c.j. & Purple Patriot,
    You two are a breath of fresh air. Welcome and please keep posting. A agree wholeheartedly with your posts above.

    I will say this: If Hillary were POTUS, we may not have an ineligible usurper in office, but the abuse to the constitution would be no less and the government would still be totally failing to secure our rights under the constitution. Our petitions for redress would still have been completely ignored and the police state would continue to grow.

    The Constitution is no doubt our rallying point and we need a focused effort. I have hitched my wagon to the movement for a Continental Congress via the movement started by We The People.

    I would be like to hear your feedback on the Continental Congress that has been called.

  3. Tenacity Says:

    Hi Troy,
    Did you see my posts from late last night?

  4. LadyTexan Says:

    A new action filed by Orly Taitz, ESQ based on the Executive Order by President Bush


  5. sdee Says:

    I thought the gang might like this inaugural essay by Scipio. The man does have a way with words.


    ””I do not come to praise Obama but to bury him—in defeat. I vow to work as I can and as I must to see him fail utterly, to return to that Chicago sewer from whence he arose. His fall would be a true American success story.””

  6. susie hudson Says:


  7. Tenacity Says:

    Have you gotten into the Koolaid again or did you start drinking a little early for the noggaration?

  8. sliderblaze Says:

    Slider, you have also been a valuable poster, and I understand your anger and frustration, but Foxtrot is not the problem. Obama is. Our party leaders have let us down for years! Where are they now? Nowhere! Not even the talking heads on the radio will deal with this.

    True, however, this was the liberals guy, there dude, there God, their messiah. I didnt want McCain, i was a Romney guy, my business is real estate and I saw this coming years in the making, Repubs were talking about this years ago, the GSE’s and the too big to fail mentality. I only heard one side, conservatives talking about this issue. I like intellectual honesty here and most of us have it. I put country, constitution and history above party. I’m an American first, conservative second and republican third. Double standard gets people nowhere with me. Like they say, it’s the sqeakiest wheel is the one that needs the most grease and the libs have been really squeaky over the last 8 yrs. Now it put up or shut up time.

  9. susie hudson Says:

    it surely was the noggaeation that got me dipping in the xxx private stock jug. no koolaid for me, it far too sugary, and anything that sweet has got to be suspect.
    such a major shame I cant make it to DC for the most important event ever to take place in the history America.
    Geez, our country must look completely overwhelmed with joy to the rest of the world. I wonder what our enemies must think…either were are complete fools falling all over ourselves over this obama…or we look like we are happier than we have ever been, truly 1005 happy in love with our new president.
    brt they arent too happy with our newly found BLISS. bet a couple of dictators oe’r there would love to slap the happy right out of us.
    oh well, who knows what tom. will bring. I dont think it will be a dull day tenacity, not dull at all…..

  10. sliderblaze Says:

    anyone listen to Uncle Eddy hale?

  11. patriotamy Says:

    What’s Ed up to now?

  12. budgy Says:

    Obama’s transparent government….delay for switching to digital tv in return for ……….


  13. sliderblaze Says:

    thats what i was wondering amy, i ‘m watchin house instead

  14. CJ Says:

    Thanks for the knd words Tenacity. As I said, I don’t post often but read here everyday. This is a great blog with good people who can agree to disagree and still have a civil discourse. I am following the Cont. Congress info, but have not made up my mind yet whether it is going to be something that I wwill be involved with. I hope it turns out well and look forward to your reports. I will always be ready to support good, truthful causes that promote honoring our Constitution and America’s values. Did anyone see Sarah Palin’s interview on Glenn Beck today? She is great. I know why the opponents in Obama’s camp were so viscious in attacking her and continue to be. They know she is a big threat to them and are going to do everything they can to keep her away from Washington and the people of the USA. She is truly a breath of fresh air as an elected official. I sure hope she can become a leader who matters for the next election. Take care all.

  15. sliderblaze Says:

    I sure hope she can become a leader who matters for the next election. Take care all.


    amen to that CJ

  16. patriotamy Says:

    Sorry, slider, I was away for a minute. My hubby made a wonderful dinner and I was enjoying it. Fresh “hot” homemade bread and baked pork loin. MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!! So I didn’t listen to Ed either.

  17. rosettasister Says:

    I love this picture of Sarah!


  18. sliderblaze Says:

    on a scale of one to holy crap she’s hot, holy crap she’s hot, and great common sense, something that really seems to be missing in government these days

  19. patriotamy Says:

    Sarah is a very attractive, intelligent woman. The more she is ‘on her own’ and speaking for herself, the more you can see the real person.

  20. rosettasister Says:

    From talktozig

    In an interview for the forthcoming documentary “Media Malpractice” Governor Sarah Palin, for the first time at length, takes on the media coverage of her and the 2008 campaign.

    There is plenty more of the interview to come.

    To find out more got to


    and get on the mailing list.

  21. roving Says:

    the people on plains radio are REALLY excited about this executive order.

  22. rosettasister Says:

    I love the look on the woman’s face who has just shown Palin what Couric said.

    Palin replies to Couric, “You’re not the center of everyone’s universe.”


  23. roving Says:

    On Oprah when Bidens wife said Obama had given Joe a choice between VP or sec. of state, Obama broke the law. Gee, ya think anything will be done? the U.S.C. he broke http://vlex.com/vid/19191068

  24. rosettasister Says:

    Good night, good people!

    Highly recommend you watch the Sarah Palin video if you haven’t already done so.

    She’s a bit quirky, but oh so real!

  25. sliderblaze Says:

    patriotamy Says:
    January 20, 2009 at 2:40 am

    Sarah is a very attractive, intelligent woman. The more she is ‘on her own’ and speaking for herself, the more you can see the real person.
    amen, it seem that the McCain campaign felt a lil unconfrotable with her calling out ayers and such.

  26. CJ Says:

    Guess Canada agrees with her take on Ayers. They wouldn’t let him in their country. Good for them.

  27. patriotamy Says:

    Saw that on Ayers today and had to chuckle..Our neighbors to the North are to be commended on that action.

  28. sba1872 Says:

    Hmmmm. So exactly where in Africa did BO have his Aids test? WARNING: Some may find this site offensive (not necessarily the article).


    Police officers raided the house of Diadji Diouf, Secretary General of AIDES Senegal, an organization providing HIV prevention services to men who have sex with men. The court considered this organization a cover for “recruiting” or gathering together individuals for sexual activity under the guise of carrying out awareness raising programs on HIV/AIDS prevention.

  29. j.b. Says:

    I just found this at Orly’s site. Anyone here have any knowledge of what she (the commenter, not Orly) speaks?)

    Orly, did you give any thought to suing those characters in their personal capacity as well as their official capacity? Not that anybody could get near them to serve a summons on them!

    I think Pelosi is the real villain of the piece. Go to Youtube.com and search for ‘Nominate by acclamation at Denver.” I don’t know if she was chairman of the convention but she pulled a very cute trick. When Hillary (her co-conspirator) came forward to read out the NY figures, Nancy said “I move that we suspend the convention rules.” She did not ask for a seconder of that motion nor did she wait for objections. Wham. No more finishing the alphabet to see who won the Drm. nom. nationally.
    Up steps Hillary and ‘throws the election’ to Obama. Everybody shouts approval. (I was a delegate to the Repub. Women’s convention in ’07 at Palm Springs and I can tell you that these large groups have professional yellers to make it look like Consensus has arrived).
    Does anyone out there know why Hillary did that?
    It was hardly fair to people who worked hard for her campaign. Get a library copy of Secret Life of Bill Clinton by A. Evans Pritchard and be amazed. It is not about sex. It is about murder at the drop of a hat. Also, google for “Clinton suspicious deaths.”

  30. j.b. Says:

    I wanted to get that out of the way before I shared my thought s and experiences on this evening.

    So, we arrived a little early and I noticed there were not very many folks there, yet. So I wandered up front to meet Bob. I introduced myself to him and mentioned Tenacity had encouraged me to do so. He clarified that I said “Colorado” and not “California”. Then said he knew Ten and talked about the way he grabbed the controls for the WTPC blog and seemed impressed by that.
    I then sat down as Rose came up and well, interrupted us.(Is she Bob’s wife?)
    We sat near the front, as a few more people trickled in.

    Right off, I thought Bob looked tired. (I am sure he is and who wouldn’t be with his schedule?!?)

    The presentation was a bit dry, but I tried really hard to not judge and STAY FOCUSED. (which, btw, was not easy sitting nest to my fidgety hubby-omg-I actually asked him if he needed some focus meds of mine) Funny how when he finally brought up the NBC and Barry, I perked up a bit!

    I thought the presentation was a bit long-we could’ve used a 10 minute break in the middle-but overall I think Bob did a very nice job and was well spoken, nicely dressed, intelligent and kinda cute for an old guy. 🙂 (he has been married 2 years less than I am old, so I can say that)

    Unfortunately, the turnout was terrible. I felt bad for him in that regard. Maybe 30 people showed up. I am sure that the energy in the room was the exact opposite as what Katie and Tenacity felt when they attended last weeks’ gig.

    I had envisioned my husband, who has ALOT in commom with Bob, to want to be a delegate……….The time commitment for that is not doable for him, though.

    So, at 9:20, after listening to a wild card, goofball, weirdo looking dude (so much for not being judgemental *sigh*)
    “ask a question”, which was in fact a lengthy statement ( as my husband predicted it would be as soon as he heard the guys preamble to his s’posed question) we, regretfully, left. I waited for Bob to STOP the guy from hijacking the thing but he didn’t. 😦

    I did manage to ask a question earlier about the NAU and the Amero. I totally understood and respected Bob’s answer that he only deals with “facts”. I could tell he had read up on it and he did in fact say that he “wouldn’t be surprised” or something.

    So that was it. I am glad I went. I am not sure what my next move will be regarding the org. though.

  31. j.b. Says:

    Where is EVERYBODY? Oh, Iiiiii knoooww.
    Getting their beauty rest for the big noggaration tomorrah.

  32. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Hi J.b.

    just got home myself

  33. thinkingmom11 Says:

    in-nauseation is more like it…yuck

  34. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Hubby and I had class tonight,. then we usually go to a local pizza place…

  35. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    HI mom

  36. Tenacity Says:

    If you are around, please approve Justice as a new member to Rose’s Gang

  37. Justice Says:

    Howdy, Terry is introducing me.

  38. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Hi JAC – having to check in and out periodically. I am trying to get my mind focused on my kids education…this has been a distraction (no matter how important!) . Time to get focused on raising my kids to be responsible, informed, educated citizens able to survive and thrive in a difficult environment in the future. I am often overwhelmed at the responsibility I have taken upon myself.

  39. Tenacity Says:

    I got the feeling that the Colorado meeting was one of their better meetings. The publicity could definitely be stronger. That’s one of the reasons, we, who live in the world of blog at least part of the time, need to help this movement out. They’ve got the right idea and the right motives, but need some mass to be effective. Bob Schulz has been fighting this battle for a long time. Right now while people are so frustrated is perhaps the best opportunity for the Continental Congress. If we can pull more people in and educate them, then this thing has a chance. I just don’t see a better alternative. Sitting at a computer and complaining isn’t going to cut the mustard. We need to get enough people together and ultimately getting some good well-regulated state militias going which is what Dr. Vieira says will carry the greatest constitutional authority and secure the rights of each state’s citizens.

  40. Tenacity Says:

    I want my grandson and future grand kids to have a Republic to grow up in where their voices will be heard and their petitions of redress will be responded to. I am not willing to lay down and allow our government by the people to die. I would rather die than grow old in a socialist police state. It is a heavy burden we face. Many have died for this cause and we cannot afford to drop the banner now.

  41. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    I know how it is,… feel like I have many arms in the fire…heck I still have my christmas tree up! ……

  42. igaveup Says:

    how did “sammy” get into the us?

    “From Washington grounds in the US, API congratulates President Obama and the First lady Michelle Obama and wishes them well now and int eh future both in politics and in private with their two beautiful daughters.”

    korir-api-chief-editor<By Chief Editor Korir, Washington, US

    African Press International – API

  43. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Important announcements…if you missed Phil on the radio tonight!
    written by Linda Starr, January 20, 2009

    First, the caller who left the message about Barry getting served with papers before noon tomorrow, came on after Phil was off the show. We can’t comment on something of which we have no knowledge. Or at least Phil or Lisa hasn’t told me anything as yet…

    Second, how many of you picked up on what Phil said on tonight’s radio show about the FOIA confirming Barry never had an American passport under the name of Barack Obama until hsi diplomatic passport issued as a US Senator? Do you understand and comprehendc the enormity of that announcement? Do you all realize what it means? I can tell you now that is one part of several pieces of good news we had the other day that I hinted at and could not reveal. That information confirms Barry had to renew an Indonesian passport to go to Pakistan in 81. That means Barry swore an Oath of Allegiance to Indonesia and had to renoucne all other allegiances to get that passport. This is independent confirmation of information we’ve had and from OUR OWN State Department, Barry couldn’t go to Pakistan on an American passport if he didn’t have one.

    There are so many amazing pieces of good news coming in. I wish I could tell you all about it. I will say this, I am skeptical of the announcement Barry will be served with papers to block his swearing in tomorrow, but it’s not inconceivable in light of other information I have heard today. Again, I have no way to verify anythng except that which we have obtained certified documents.

    I may have some very interesting information for everyone tomorrow. Tune in. Hehehe.

  44. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I just need to pray for wisdom, endurance and patience for all of this. Homeschooling can be such a challenge and with this on top of it all, it feels almost overwhelming. It is all so important and so pressing. Anyway, sorry for the venting…

  45. igaveup Says:

    wow cindy, good work

    i always wondered, “why he would take a holiday in pakistan”, that wasn’t the hot spot for college students, and how he got in.

    i figured it had to be the indonesian passport. this also explains his failure to fill out a selective service form.

  46. igaveup Says:

    i checked out the qvc and hsn shopping sites and it’s a true “projectile vomit” experience.

    all the empty suit has done was pull the wool over millions of people.

    not deserving of the adulation. truly creepy. how many would want to “cuddle and wrap yourself up” with an obama throw?

    an aside, how is michelle going to deal with oprah hanging around?

  47. thinkingmom11 Says:

    WOW JAC – that post just got my spirits up again! Did you or Ten hear Phil? May have to try to catch it on a rebroadcast – anyone know where he was on – was it Plains?

  48. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I think I will head to bed on that up note! Check in tomorrow AFTER I teach my kids…

  49. thinkingmom11 Says:

    JAC was that posted on Obamacrimes?

  50. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    as far as him being served paper just before……. though I love the idea.. I don’t think it would happen….. 2 million extra people in DC is not time to cause a riot…
    The other,…. it gives me hope….. I like to think Burg has some proof up his sleeve……

    I don’t know what radio station he was on…..This was a fresh post when I grabbed it

  51. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    yep Obamacrimes

  52. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    found where he was at…….havin’t checked to see if it rebroadcasts or not
    Phil on radio right now…
    written by Linda Starr, January 19, 2009


    Syrett, Richard Show Newstalk CFRB 1010 AM Toronto, Canada

    1/19/09 – 11:00 p.m. to 12:00

    [major show – broadcasts to 19 stations all across Canada & is heard all across Norhern United States]

  53. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    if you’re still around I’ve missed your kitty…… glad to see you back

  54. Tenacity Says:

    Are you pulling another all nighter?

  55. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    nope not all nighter……. 4 or 5 am maybe…… 🙂

  56. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    had a headahe so ended up taking a 3 hour nap this afternoon… now I’m wide awake

  57. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Excerpt From a Kenyan Newspaper …………Logan act??

    Writing at the end of September 2008, the chief policy adviser to the candidate Senator Barack Obama spelt out the foreign policy goals as they related to Africa in this way:

    “Barack Obama understands Africa, and understands its importance to the United States. Today, in this new century, he understands that to strengthen our common security, we must invest in our common humanity and, in this way, restore American leadership in the world.

    “As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, he has engaged on many African issues. He has worked to end genocide in Darfur, to pass legislation to promote stability and the holding of elections in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, to bring a war criminal to justice in Liberia and to develop a coherent strategy for stabilizing Somalia.”

    From this broad outline the adviser (who had been trained in one of the elite African Studies Centers in the United States) went on to outline three goals of the candidate:

    One is to accelerate Africa’s integration into the global economy.
    A second is to enhance the peace and security of African states.
    And a third is to strengthen relationships with those governments, institutions and civil society organizations committed to deepening democracy, accountability and reducing poverty in Africa.

  58. Tenacity Says:

    Did you ever get your password for the blog? If not, I will follow up and get it to forward to you.

  59. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    No I never got it Ten

  60. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    excerpt from another african newspaper
    Despite the lack of tourist infrastructure, Brian Coulson argued the trip was worthwhile, even if he could not make it past the policemen guarding the homestead of Obama’s 86-year-old grandmother, “Mama Sarah”.

  61. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    been peeking into african newspapers…..thinking today they might make a slip

  62. Tenacity Says:

    Mama Sarah is like a bear in a cage. The cage ain’t there to protect her.

  63. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    eeeew I need a shower….. all the Bo love fest stuff I have read though…….. icckkkyyyy

  64. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I know we have brought up the subject of efforts to get the country back on track……. but this LOOOOOOOOOVE fest….. well, if he is taken down .the backlash will be unbelievable…..

  65. Tenacity Says:

    Bring it on! We cannot run this country in fear of what the morons will do. I don’t care to entice violence and recognize the dangers, but I would much rather not make the military/national guard have to decide which side they are on. If the Obots riot, at least the civil pedestrians will all be on the side of the police and riot control. If the patriots are clamped down upon unjustly, then it will be tough to know who is on whose side of the fight and that would be ugly.

  66. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    I agree ….. 100%

  67. Tenacity Says:

    Sleepy time for me. ‘Night

  68. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    The worship of this Guy is unbelivable… I tried to stay away from the pro sites just because they made me sick…… But the looking around I did tonight was worst than I even thought it was …. no wonder we are having such a hard time getting anywhere with the msm and the courts

  69. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Night Ten

    don’t dream of Troy’s Llamas 🙂

  70. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    But tell me this: if I called Bam Bam an ass,
    would some people think that’s a dirty crack?

    🙂 gotta luv me

  71. Clarity Says:

    Can anyone verify Linda’s statement about the FOIA and BO passport?

    I never was into the technical arguments about NBC with his dad conferring his British citizenship on BO or that his step-dad adopted him. It seemed like a technicality punishing an underage minor that got harder and harder to get a court to listen to the closer BO got to today. Would the courts turn this nation upside down for something that BO had no control over? A court would want 100% fact and certainty before touching it with a 10 ft. pole.

    Yet, its a different argument if he used a foreign passport after coming back to the US of legal age. This may be enough information to have the courts unlock his college transcripts to see how he filed his status.

    I had a hard time believing that a court would allow a citizen to bring in BO eligibility issue into a trail about a BO bill they violated without proof (not hear-say). This may finally be concrete proof that Obama actually did something wrong versus his parents violating the NBC for him.

    Just feel sorry if BO is thrown out what it will mean for this country. Think the hoopla is big now … what will it turn into later?

  72. susiezen Says:

    hello, its the big day. what a shame that this is really happening, i thought I might hold on to hope a bit longer. although I think we all know what is about to transpire.
    the masses are filling up at the mall….the ball is in motion. does any of you feel as deflated as I.
    well, we cant let up on the good fight yet. the battle is all uphill now and our ammo is low, but we cant give up.[even though hes looking like a rock star] somebody in public relations should have warned him, if you fly too high, the crash landing is huge!! what goes up must come down. people will get sick of him, our president was NEVER meant to be a celebrity. he and his wife, a pair of attention sucking fools.
    Tenacity, just a note, DO not associate me with KOOL AID again…you dont know what your talking about, and its getting old. try to come up with another line when referring to me. when I agree with you ill let you know.

  73. susiezen Says:

    tenacity, I hope that didnt sound like an invitation to go at it, I like you and your point of veiws, your very intelligent as is most of rosies gang. I dont have a lot to offer as far as data and the like, I dont even know how to apply them in my posts. Im just a bleeding heart republican whos horrified at what has become of our country. this is my home, and we have a bunch of idiots pooping in our front yards and all we can do is watch. noboby has to respond to my posts, just dont treat me like a koolade drunk, fool. thank you

  74. susiezen Says:

    tenacity, I hope that didnt sound like an invitation to go at it, I like you and your point of views, your very intelligent as is most of rosies gang. I dont have a lot to offer as far as data and the like, I dont even know how to apply them in my posts. Im just a bleeding heart republican whos horrified at what has become of our country. this is my home, and we have a bunch of idiots pooping in our front yards and all we can do is watch. nobody has to respond to my posts, just dont treat me like a koolade drunk, fool, besides even though im not around as much as id like to, im working on getting 1st, ive been close a couple of times”

  75. A Purple Patriot Says:

    Tenacity, thank you for the nice welcome. I have been checking out the WTPF website, and I like most of what I see. I’ve already passed the website address on to a few people, including my son who has passed it on to several friends. I will find a way to contribute to the cause.

    I also agree with you that we cannot let rioting and civil unrest determine our President. That is mob rule, and is unacceptable. But I also understand that because of the media blackout on so much vital, pertinent info about Obama, many people will rightly suspect foul play – just not on Obama’s part. Give the people the truth, and they will do the right thing. Unfortunately, too few people know the truth.

    I do not blame Americans. I do blame the mainstream media and both Democrat and Republican party officials who have all created this mess. I’m even more disgusted and appalled at our major media. I expect this kind of crap from politicians… but the Fourth Estate has violated a sacred national trust. Especially shameful are the conservative radio personalities who have refused to even address the issues.

    Today will be a tough day…

  76. susiezen Says:

    hello purple patriot..most of the bloggers come out later, Although I think today may end up being a devastatingly long day. funny, we just lost a constant poster here, foxtrot, just as you joined.
    I must agree with Tenacity, tis good to read a solid point of veiw, as agreeable and biased as i am.
    regarding your last post, wouldnt it be nice for all the lemmings, rushing onto the mall this morning, to seek truth.
    To many people want to be spoon fed there news. they trust the media to be their feeder…and thats all they know…to lazy to seek a little further to be touched with the truth. there will be no higher realization for those folk, no “AHA” moments for them. too bad that its really A tragic moment in our lives/history……nice to meet….enjoy rosies, great place…susie

  77. A Purple Patriot Says:

    Hi Susie – I guess I am on the early side. Early morn is my best time for catching up, I don’t always have a chance later in the day.

    I certainly share your frustration with the lack of well-informed voters. But I find it hard to judge the masses too harshly. A year ago, I thought I was rather well informed too. Little did I know. At this point, all I can be sure of is that the corruption runs wide and deep, and I don’t trust anyone. I think we’re all in for a rude awakening on several levels. It all depends on which delusions we fell for.

    So I’ll reserve my wrath for the mainstream media. Because their role is so vital in a healthy republic, they are a privileged class, and they have broken our trust in the worst way.

    To be fair, I am holding out hope that it isn’t over yet. Maybe Obama has to take the oath of office to complete the crime, and then he – and all his accomplices – will be stopped and removed from office (at the very least!). Maybe the silence in conservative ranks is necessary at this point for reasons I don’t yet understand. Maybe Obama will find his conscience and step down. I know, I know – And maybe pigs will fly!

  78. sdee Says:

    A Purple Patriot Says: ””I’ll reserve my wrath for the mainstream media. Because their role is so vital in a healthy republic, they are a privileged class, and they have broken our trust in the worst way. ””

    I agree 100% – the media has gone from bias to subversive. We will never know what is truly going on deep in the bowels of political and financial powers, but the vast majority of serious problems we have today could have been exposed by a few 60 Minutes or 20/20 shows about FANNIE/FREDDIE, CRA, ACORN, Soros, oil future traders, pork spending, Islamic financing, political payback, you pick.

    Most of my arguments with really smart people about the depth of political corruption and dishonesty end with “then why don’t I see this the news”.

    Bernie Goldberg opened my eyes years ago with “Bias” – but I never imagined that the media could have done this much damage.

  79. CJ Says:

    Morning everyone. I was having my wake-up cup of coffee and I started to read my local liberal news rag. On the life and arts page, there was an article about a local retired teacher and her connection to our new idol Barack. It kind of took me by surprise and I’d like some opinion from those here. Forgive the length, but I need to copy it all to get it complete.

    “Barbara Nelson a local teacher, commented Monday as follows. “I maybe the only person left who specifically remembers his (Obama) birth. His parents are gone, the obstetrician who delivered him is gone,”said Nelson, referring to Dr. Rodney T. West, who died in Feb. at the age of 98. It (the birth of Obama)was Aug.4, 1961 at the Kapi’olini Medical Center for Women’s & Children in Honolulu.

    “Here’s the story: Nelson was having dinner at the Outrigger Canoe Club on Waikiki Beach with Dr. West, the father of her college friend, Jo-Anne. Making conversation, Nelson turned to Dr. West and said: “So, tell me something interesting that happened this week,” she recalls. His response: “Well, today, Stanley had a baby. Now that’s something to write home about.” The new mother was Stanley(later referred to by her midddle name of Ann) Dunham, and the baby was Barack Hussein Obama. Nelson also remembers: ” I remember Dr. West mentioning that the baby’s father was the first black student at the University of Hawaii and how taken he was by the baby’s name.”

    10 years after that memorable birth announcement, Nelson would hear the Obama name again. This time the father, now a Kenyan official, was coming to speak at the Punahou school in Honolulu where Nelson was teaching and where his 10 year old son was a newly enrolled 5th grader.Nelson says ” His son(Obama) seemed as fascinated (by senior Obama) as we all were.”

    Nelson also taught Barack in high school and watched him play basketball for the school’s team. “During one class the question was posed “of what should we be most afraid of”. Barack said “Words. Words are the power to be feared most. Every individual has an unmonitored arsenal and whether they are directed personally or internationally, words can be a weapon of destruction.”

    There is more in the article, personal interaction with OB, but I think I posted the important parts. This woman returned to live in a town near me in 2006 after living in Hawaii for many years. I was just astonished at this. I mean at last someone who was close to the situation has commented. Has any of this been reported before? Is it true? Did I miss it? I don’t know what to make of this. I can provide the link to the newspaper. It comes from the Buffalo News and is on the Life and Arts page. Any comments would be very welcome by me. I just am stunned and don’t know what to think. I am not an OB admirer by any stretch, but this has me wondering about his life in Hawaii. Thanks for any input.

  80. hockeyfan530 Says:

    it’s the first time i’ve ever heard anything about it. It sounds like a strange conversation to me though. “Tell me something interesting that happened this week”? Well, it’s really not an interesting story. Even if this woman did find it interesting it certainly isn’t memorable. Also remember there are no hospitals in Hawaii that have a record of barry’s mom as a patient. Probably some lady wanting attention or it’s completely made up on the “festive” day.

    OK, festive isn’t the right word. It’s a nightmare. I am only listening to CD’s and watching DVD’s the rest of the week. The only thing i want to hear this week is barry is settled in his new home. The federal prison.

    This love affair for a complete fraud, unaccomplished jerk off is just annoying as hell. The truth is right in front of their faces and they brush it aside.

  81. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Sounds like a pretty believable account CJ…I wonder why it has taken so long for this info to come out…but a doctor saying that “Stanley had a baby today” is something I would probably remember for a long time too…While he doesn’t have NBC based on his father’s citizenship and all, I have said all along that IF he was born in HI it seriously weakens the arguement to most people in America who don’t want to think about the issue for more that 2.5 seconds. Will wait and see how things come through with Berg and Linda and I would like to find out more about the FOIA/passport thing…

  82. thinkingmom11 Says:

    HF – I guess you and I have a different take on this (I think I would remember a comment like that) but I don’t discount the possibility of the story being trumped up – think about it – those are some pretty amazing coincidences, huh!?

  83. hockeyfan530 Says:

    well stanley having a baby is slightly interesting. But the rest of it isn’t all that unusual and i would never think of the last name. Obama isn’t that strange of a name. But if it were true, it would weaken the credibility. But the issue of dual citizenship is still valid. The adoption in Indonesia is still valid. The travels in the early 80’s, possibly on an indonesian passport is still valid.

    Also, what i find strange is that barry was placed with the foreign students in college? Why? they usually put the foreign students together to make them more comfortable.

  84. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Gotta run – want to get a head start on the school day today…take care (I hear Dramamine is good for nausea….just in case anyone accidently turns the TV on today) Oh, and is everyone prepared for our manufactured crisis? Practiced emergency drills with the children, stockpiled food and water? That is supposed to be coming up in the next couple of days…so get ready! (Said in my sweetest, most innocent schoolmarm voice – although my kids would argue I don’t have one of those 😉 )

  85. hockeyfan530 Says:

    does anyone know where linda starr does most of her posting? Fox was always on top of new posts from linda. JAC are you keeping an eye out for linda’s posts?

  86. thinkingmom11 Says:

    HF – I totally agree with you on the dual citizenship thing and I COMPLETELY agree that the passport issue is vitally important as well. That he may have travelled on a foreign passport and attended college as a foreign student is indeed a salient point worthy of further research. Unfortunately, there may be no more records to find after O has been in power for a while…

  87. thinkingmom11 Says:

    HF – Starr posts mostly at obamacrimes.com I beleive

  88. hockeyfan530 Says:

    mom, thanks, and i agree. If berg and pidgeon don’t have the goods on barry now it may be too late. The problem is getting someone to hear the evidence. I still can’t believe he got this far. Logic tells anyone that wants to know the truth what barry is. A COMPLETE FRAUD! Man i hope berg really does have the evidence! I want to see barry and michelle in handcuffs! I want to see his followers depressed! We have been depressed watching this ass clown get away with this for so long now. I want to watch his followers just walking around stunned! “What happened?” Oh that would be great!

  89. CJ Says:

    Thanks all. I don’t think this lady is one who makes up things but who knows. There were other statements about this teacher sitting at bb games with his Grandmother and how Obama was the apple of her eye and how much he adored his grandmother. I am inclined to think she is being truthful, but memories are fickel at best. She did spend quite a few years teaching there, and teachers do have a knack for remembering their students however. I do agree that the major implications come with the passport issues and Indonesia segments of his life. We shall see and even if he was born in Hawaii, he still had at the very least, one dual citizenship as a child. I hope there is concrete, irrefutable proof to come that will put a stop to this fraudulent Presidency. I don’t think it will happen today though. The masses coming toggether in Washington will not allow any official action against OB to take place. Too dangerous to fool with imo.

  90. patriotamy Says:

    Talk about depressed! I know we all are having a tough time today. With all the hoopla going on, it is hard not to be. But, we have to remember that somehow, someway, the truth will come out. Patience is not one of my virtues, but I certainly have been pushed to be patient now.

  91. ddlew2 Says:

    Man I tell ya. After that API debacle, I aint trusting anyone that claims they have some “secret” info on anybody.

    If Berg or Pidgeon have the goods, I don’t see how revealing the information would jeopardize anything.

    Whatever info they have is true or not true; provided they have any to begin with.

  92. susie hudson Says:

    THIS story makes me think that its going to be just as hard to prove his non-citizenship as it is to prove it. Without a damn good arsinal of clear, concise evidence we will never ever be able to expose obama for the fraud that he is.
    right now as Im typing I have fox on. obama is making his way to the capitol building and the croud isnt clapping like normal, they are screaming as if its ’64 and the fab four themselves are there.
    Hes effing worshiped right now, and every judge, politician and judicial figure in america knows it…….OBAMA IS UNTOUCHABLE
    That is our truth as of today, hed have to take out a gun and murder the POPE himself for anything to change!!!

  93. igaveup Says:

    Barack said “Words. Words are the power to be feared most. Every individual has an unmonitored arsenal and whether they are directed personally or internationally, words can be a weapon of destruction.”

    i don’t believe that he said that, unless there was a teleprompter.

  94. rosettasister Says:

    Justice Says:
    January 20, 2009 at 5:31 am

    Howdy, Terry is introducing me.


    Howdy back, Justice!

    Sorry it took me so long to get to your comment.

    You should be able to post at will now.


  95. susie hudson Says:

    have to agree with you igaveup…..plus he was only in the 5th grade {supposingly}, we all know hes not that smart….he just plays a good part…..in reality he just a spice girl

  96. Troy Says:

    CJ Says:

    January 20, 2009 at 2:52 pm
    Morning everyone. I was having my wake-up cup of coffee and I started to read my local liberal news rag. On the life and arts page, there was an article about a local retired teacher and her connection to our new idol Barack. It kind of took me by surprise and I’d like some opinion from those here. Forgive the length, but I need to copy it all to get it complete.

    “Barbara Nelson a local teacher, commented Monday as follows. “I maybe the only person left who specifically remembers his (Obama) birth. His parents are gone, the obstetrician who delivered him is gone,”said Nelson, referring to Dr. Rodney T. West, who died in Feb. at the age of 98. It (the birth of Obama)was Aug.4, 1961 at the Kapi’olini Medical Center for Women’s & Children in Honolulu.
    This story was put out at least a month ago when the heat on Barry was intense and the lawsuits were hitting the courts one after the other….It was published in a Obama cheerleading publication / Liberal rag….I instantly recognized it for exactly what it is, a concocted load of horse shit!!!

    It has already been established beyond doubt that NO hospital in Hawaii has EVER had a patient by the name of Stanley Ann Dunham / Obama in 1961…..Obama was not born in ANY hospital in Hawaii!!!!….He was born in a manger, remember?

  97. hockeyfan530 Says:

    do you know who hired the PI’s to check the hospitals in HA? Was it berg?

  98. Troy Says:

    I don’t remember right off hand…It might have been Andy Martin….I just don’t remember….Sheesh, it seems like a year ago already…..Time really flies when we’re getting screwed, huh?

  99. susie hudson Says:

    Man, was that our last hope, barry….that article is reallly starting to get to me….im depressed for sure now.
    Can this old woman from nowhere really blow all this out of the water, right now especially, just minutes before this gross gross showing of obamas narssisism getting the biggest shot in the arm. LOOK AT THAT CROWD!!! baracks head must be inflating to nearly bursting…aaaahhhhhh

  100. susie hudson Says:

    michelle obama looks stunning, striking, says fox newscaster… aahh somebody slap me.

  101. hockeyfan530 Says:

    susie, I can’t believe you are able to watch it! I won’t listen to the radio or watch tv for the rest of the week.

    Remember, even IF the story were true it doesn’t matter. He was born with dual citizenship AND he was and indonesian citizen that PROBABLY had an indonesian passport to travel in pakistan. Where he was born really doesn’t matter. If he were born in Kenya then it’s just an added bonus…a bonus lie, if you will, from our good buddy barry

  102. hockeyfan530 Says:

    troy, i was thinking it was Andy Martin too. I don’t know about that guy. Not sure if he’s trustworthy

  103. Troy Says:

    and now for more of what’s really going on….


  104. susiezen Says:

    oh….my……Barack…God…Obama…THE SEA of people chanting waving flags…how frightning. His face is as smug as Ive ever seen in my life…im going to go barf,,,,cant watch anymore, its worse than I imagined.
    Hockeyfan you are so right. I hope I dont fall running out the door……bye

  105. Katie Says:

    Troy – what I had left in my stomach is about ready to come back up. Any coincidence with the China story and last night we learn that BO has another half brother in – you guessed it – China!

    I feel like I’m walking to my execution.

  106. Troy Says:

    I didn’t hear about the 1/2 bro in China…it figures

  107. rosettasister Says:

    New Thread:


  108. hockeyfan530 Says:

    remember during the olympics when barry was commenting on how incredible the chinese infrastructure was? LOL What an idiot. First, the chinese don’t have the same regulations as we do in the US. Goverenment regulations that Barry and his idiot buddies support such as environmental BS! Secondly, wait and see how that infrastructure looks in a few years. It wasn’t built for longevity it was built for show…nothing more. Barry is an idiot.

  109. susiezen Says:

    hehe obuma messed up th oath…it wasnt on the telepromter thats why lol

  110. Troy Says:

    The problem with our country isn’t the economy or foreign relations or energy or even Barry Obama for that matter….The problem with our country is the millions of ignorant morons that are our fellow citizens….The entire world must be laughing their asses off at us right about now….The really sad thing is that if you ask these effing idiots that are standing around with tears running down their faces because they worship a liar / fraud, they will tell you that they consider themselves to be intelligent….If ANY human being EVER worships another human being then they are mentally ill and need serious help….To admire or respect another human being is one thing, but to worship another is just plain sickening and sinful….If you ever find yourself overwhelmed with emotion to the point of weeping because you are in the presense of a fellow human being, then just go home and shoot yourself….You’re probably beyond help.

  111. Tenacity Says:

    I’m in a seminar and will be lurking, but I am here.

  112. CJ Says:

    Troy, Not that it reaslly matters now anyway, but the teacher in the story was interviewed by a local reporter. It was entirely her story and she actually was there while Obama was a child and on through high school when he came back. She was his teacher and knew the obstetrician well. That’s what amazed me about the whole report. It is of little value now. As all can see, there are millions of Americans who do not care what the truth is and only worship the phantom dream that they think is really there. It will take more than what little evidence is showing up right now to ever take him out of office. I think we need to focus on 2012 and do what the Dems did. Get out to the grassroots and tell the truth. Find good candidates for 2010 and a dynamite one for the next presidential run to oppose him. It will be difficult to unseat him but it will help when his policies start to show their true colors. Good luck to us all.

  113. CJ Says:

    Wow could it be a sign from God? The Chief Justice and Obama screwed up the oath!! How many times has that ever happened. The words just couldn’t come out right from 2 guys who know the truth. Fox newscaster was joking and wondering if Obama was really the Pres. cause he didn’t say the words written in the Constitution as the oeath. My goodness what irony! Said he’s sure the SC would uphold the Pres is legit if it was ever challenged. Maybe ol Joe is really the Pres. right now. Unbelievable!

  114. rosettasister Says:

    CJ Says:
    January 20, 2009 at 6:42 pm


    Hi, CJ! We’re over here.

    New Thread:


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