“Obama To Formally Name Security Chiefs”



Dennis Blair, the former head of the U.S. Pacific Command, has been tapped by President-elect Obama to be the nation’s next intelligence director. Dita Alangkara / Associated Press


“Issuing executive orders on issues such as prohibiting torture or closing Guantánamo Bay would make clear that his administration will do things differently” Leon Panetta


WASHINGTONPresident-elect Barack Obama is slated to formally announce his surprise choices for CIA director and a national intelligence director Friday morning.

The choices of Leon Panetta to head the CIA and retired Adm. Dennis Blair as national intelligence director haven’t been sitting well with everyone.

Blair could face some tough questioning over how he confronted the Indonesian military as head of U.S. Pacific Command when civilian massacres were occurring in East Timor.

He also likely will be asked about his resignation from a Pentagon think tank, which happened after the Senate Armed Services Committee raised questions about him serving on the boards of two defense contractors the think tank was reviewing.

Obama also has chosen a longtime Democratic defense expert to be the No. 2 official at the Pentagon.

William Lynn was a top Pentagon budget official under former President Bill Clinton and a defense adviser to Democratic Senator Edward Kennedy before that. If confirmed by the Senate he would become Defense Secretary Robert Gates’ deputy. Gates is staying on in the top civilian job.

Obama’s transition office announced the names of several other Pentagon selections on Thursday, including Michele Flournoy for the No. 3 job. She’s been the co-chair of Obama’s Pentagon transition team.

In a statement, Obama said he is confident his picks will help build what he called a sustainable national security strategy that answers the threats of the 21st century.

From AssociatedPress

Critics say Leon Panetta, a former White House chief of staff, lacks the necessary background to head the CIA. But one analyst says Panetta would bring considerable international and management experience to the spy agency’s reform efforts. (Jan. 7)

Phil Berg Barack Obama Ron Polarik Jeff Schreiber

180 Responses to ““Obama To Formally Name Security Chiefs””

  1. rosettasister Says:


    On live television, Democrats turned Burris away at the entrance to the Senate.

    (Am I the only one who flashed back to George Wallace standing in the schoolhouse door?)

    The next day, realizing how badly Democrats had been hurt by images of Burris being left out in the rain, leaders Harry Reid and Dick Durbin met with the embattled appointee and announced they would relent and consider seating Burris after all.

    Reid was heard to say, “The brother was clean and articulate.”

  2. hockeyfan530 Says:

    wow, this is bizarre. Barry’s mom using someone else’s SS#


  3. rosettasister Says:

    Dr Orly: “Dr Polarik, I presume.”


    Ron Polarick please call me

    Posted by Orly Taitz, DDS Esq. at 6:14 AM

    Polarik says:

    Today, 9:22:32 AM


    Please email me your phone number.


  4. rosettasister Says:

    Rising US Layoffs Signal Recession Is Worsening


    The nation’s unemployment rate bolted to 7.2 percent in December, the highest level in 16 years, as nervous employers slashed 524,000 jobs, capping one of the worst years in modern history for American workers.

  5. rosettasister Says:

    Rising US Layoffs Signal Recession Is Worsening


    The nation’s unemployment rate bolted to 7.2 percent in December, the highest level in 16 years, as nervous employers slashed 524,000 jobs, capping one of the worst years in modern history for American workers.

  6. jrinNC Says:

    hockeyfan – I am not surprised by the SSN – Back in 1975 at Quantico, VA I ran across two patients who had the exact same SSN.

  7. rosettasister Says:

    Gaza Offensive Rages Despite U.N. Resolution


    U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said that the U.S. “fully supports” the resolution but abstained because it “thought it important to see the outcomes of the Egyptian mediation” with Israel and Hamas, aimed at achieving a cease-fire.

    The Egyptian and French initiative must be “not just applauded, but supported,” she said.

  8. hockeyfan530 Says:

    is it a clerical error or something sinister? I’m sure barry will say it’s a clerical error or a taken out of context. It seems like a very strange coincidence

  9. rosettasister Says:

    From MEMRITVVideos

    “Hamas In Their Own Voices”

    See also:


  10. Troy Says:

    Illinois House just impeached Blago…Announced on Fox News

  11. rosettasister Says:

    Berg v. Obama at Supreme Court Conference Today


    As soon as I hear something on today’s scheduled conference at the United States Supreme Court for Berg v. Obama, I’ll post it in this space. Of course, word of the court’s determination as to Philip Berg’s petition for writ of certiorari may very well not come until Monday.

    Regardless, check back here from time to time for news. As soon as I know something, you’ll know something.

    — Jeff

  12. ladyliberty Says:

    I think there are many social security numbers that are used more than once too. I worked in a human resources office when I was in college and their computer system had some part of it that distinguished between people with the same SS#.

  13. rosettasister Says:

    Broe v. Reed: Case Dismissed “Without Comment”; Going to SCOTUS!


    Schneller v. Cortes: Justice Souter Denies Emergency Stay Application


    Candidate Qualification: Commission on Presidential Debates


  14. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    My hubby has a common name, and there is a another guy in the town we live in that has the same name….. problem is his SS# is almost exactly the same minus two numbers….

    Ususally not an issue….. but you know cops only look at the last 4 digits
    hubby has been put in jail twice over this guy because of a warrent….until it could be straightened out…. never longer than a couple of hours but still…….

  15. Tenacity Says:

    Thank you for the link on the Ameros. I must say that this in no way debunks the concept presented by Hal Turner. Now I don’t know Turner and he could be in left field. However, his story is collaborated by the other CNN story posted and many emails I have recieved from concerned citizens RE: The North American Union over the past 3 years. The fact that Daniel Carr of Moonlight Mints siezed the moment to personally profit from the situation does not debunk the possibility. For the record, the coin shown by Turner does not match the coins on Carr’s site.

  16. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    another example…….. my brother-in-law lost his drivers licence for 3 years….. every offence by another guy with the same name got put on his record….. he had a hard time fighting it….
    even though he had proof that he was in the military and stationed out of state during most of the offences…

  17. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    one of the reasons the arguement about BO is so moot from the obots…..

    how could he of got by without showing documents of who he was?

    Late 70’s early 80’s all you had to do was get a few utility bills in the name you wanted to use…..then use those to get a Drivers licence… the rest is a snap…..pre 9/11 was an identity thiefs dream

  18. rosettasister Says:

    Momma E and the Radio Rebels – Hosted By Mark McGrew (The Pravda Guy)


    My Two Cents Radio Show–Interview: Philip J. Berg


    (Berg does come on eventually.)

  19. jjones Says:

    I have had the same problem with my SS# as did your husband. there was a guy whose name was exactly the same as mine and we were both born exactly on the same day. He even used my SS# at one point due to a mix up at the SS office… This guy is not a nice man and has several warrants for his arrest… I get nervous any time I get pulled over for a traffic ticket

  20. Tenacity Says:

    Here is the information for the Continental Congress prep meeting in Denver:
    7:00 pm on Wednesday January 14, 2009 at the Ramada Plaza Denver North, 10 East 120th Avenue I-25 at Exit 223, Denver (Northglenn) to discuss a future of possibility.

  21. sdee Says:


    (apologies to OU fans – but I am in a good mood)

  22. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    it is a pain….. he had to renew his gun permit in July….the warrants showed up from the other guy…. I got a panic call from the hubby..letting me know if he wasn’t able to get it straightened out I might have to bail him out of jail….

  23. jjones Says:

    heh…. try getting a security clearance….. THAT was fun

  24. rosettasister Says:

    Israeli Defenders vs Hamas Defenders

    This image just about says it all:

    To: jacobny


    16 posted on Sunday, January 04, 2009 12:39:17 PM by Diogenesis

    What manner of men are these that hide behind their women?


    See also:

    “Hamas plans to maximize civilian casualties”



  25. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I had to prove who I was to fema after the flood….. they don’t use the same database as the rest…… my ss# came up as non existing number…..I had to go to the SS office and get a print out to fax to fema…

    lol, I wish the companies I have credit cards with used that same database

  26. rosettasister Says:

    AGs: Keep God in Obama’s inauguration


    WASHINGTON (Legal Newsline)-All of the nation’s state attorneys general have signed onto a brief to include references to God in President-elect Barack Obama’s inauguration this month.

    Authored by Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott, the amicus brief was filed with the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia in the case of atheist Michael Newdow v. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts.

    Newdow, a Sacramento physician, seeks to eliminate prayer from the inaugural ceremony and prevent Obama from being able to say “so help me God” in the presidential oath of office.

    U.S. District Court Judge Reggie Walton set a hearing for Jan. 15.

  27. Foxtrot Says:

    Tenacity, you are usually more thorough than this! Yes, the EXACT coin IS on the website I provided. I will provide it again. You need to scroll down the page a bit until you get to the “20 Ameros” coin. It is identical, has the “a” and the “D” on it–EXACT. As I said, Turner’s “conspiracy” has been debunked and all it took was the click of the mouse! I encourage everyone to go to the site and see it for yourself. Read the entire page from the top, as it explains why he minted these coins as well. (the coin is UNA 2007–20 Ameros)

    h t t p://w w w.dc-coin.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=8

  28. Foxtrot Says:

    It is the one with “2007” on it.

  29. Foxtrot Says:

    Any news on the Berg case yet? I am sure we will have to wait until Monday, as usual. However, I am hoping that “Lawdawg” comes through, as he usually does, and lets us know what their decision was, a bit early! Cross your fingers!!!

  30. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I wonder how quickly Bo will have his step granny in front of the cameras saying that he was born in Hawaii during the inauguration?

    That was my FIRST thought when I heard she was going to be there.

  31. Foxtrot Says:

    Crap–found this on another blog.

    lawdawg said…
    The Court denied the petition for a writ of certiorari in Berg v. Obama, #08-570, unanimously and without comment.

    The Court referred to the Clerk the question of whether a separate order needs to be entered regarding the motion scheduled for next week or if today’s decision moots the question without further action.

  32. jc Says:

    Lawdawg already commented at America’s Right.

    lawdawg said…
    The Court denied the petition for a writ of certiorari in Berg v. Obama, #08-570, unanimously and without comment.

    The Court referred to the Clerk the question of whether a separate order needs to be entered regarding the motion scheduled for next week or if today’s decision moots the question without further action.


    Looks like this is over. Game Set Match. I guess the truth never had a chance of coming out.

  33. Foxtrot Says:

    j.s. — just gave the same quote above yours. You must have not refreshed before you wrote. I pray it someone “posing” to be lawdawg! I am so bummed right now.

  34. jc Says:

    Bummed- yes. I guess it is time to see the writing on the wall.

  35. jc Says:

    Scotusblog has today’s order’s out. Berg is not on the list.

  36. rosettasister Says:


    12:45pm EST

    I spoke with Philip Berg a few minutes ago. He said that he was realistic but hopeful, that he had a feeling that the Court would take the case “because, perhaps, they’re seeing just how much it matters to the American people.”

    Berg also referred to the current controversy surrounding Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich’s appointment of Roland Burris to Barack Obama’s vacant seat in the U.S. Senate as a timely bonus, mentioning that it was nice to hear Sen. Harry Reid and others earlier this week talk about how the Senate retains the right to ascertain the qualifications of Burris.

    “All this talk about the Constitution and qualifications to serve can only help,” Berg said, “though in the end it will come down to the Constitution itself. I’m hoping that the Justices will see that upholding the Constitution may not always be easy, but outweighs any outside considerations when it comes to the welfare of the United States of America.”

    Posted by Jeff Schreiber

  37. Tenacity Says:

    It is unfortunate that the Turner video is so fuzzy. I saw that the coins were similar, but the detail is different. I need a clearer picture of the Turner coin to be definitive.

  38. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I was noticing the time of those postings at American’s right….
    Jeff talked to Burb after the claim of denial……..

  39. rosettasister Says:

    Sharon2 said…

    You said this, Jeff,

    please think twice about subscribing to blanket assertions with regard to the disposition of this matter. Of course, the odds against the Supreme Court granting the petition for certiorari in this case, or in any case for that matter, are longer than long so the unsubstantiated rumors of either denial or acceptance should be treated as just that — rumors founded in safe guesses.

    yet you always post lawdawg’s comment (this time with more information than usual but still something that anyone can reasonably speculate). If he is your source, why not just let us know that you’re pretty certain the case has been denied? There doesn’t seem to be any reason to post his comment otherwise. If he is just a troll, why give him any satisfaction? I find it very disturbing that the conferences are supposed to be private with no information released until on the public docket. What lawdawg has stated does not prove that he/she has insider information. Why give him the time of day, unless you know the identity of the person and are trying to prepare your readers.

    Don’t need to publish.
    January 9, 2009 1:47 PM

  40. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I meant Burg

  41. rosettasister Says:


    I did feel the need to publish. I’ve heard from Lawdawg this morning, but he is by no means a contact of mine, as I cannot verify his (or her) identity. Even the e-mail appeared to be routed from elsewhere. I don’t like that.

    However, the only way that I will censor a comment is if it is offensive or obscene. I’m not interested in quashing opinion here.

    If you have something to say, do it. I leave it up to the rest of you to weigh those opinions, decide whether or not you trust them, and give weight to them appropriately.

    That’s all.
    January 9, 2009 1:51 PM

  42. rosettasister Says:

    Need to step away for awhile.

    Keep checking Jeff’s blog for updates.

  43. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    some interesting reads at Larry’s blog


  44. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Ok found one of Bam Bam’s school records…….lol.. please read carefully

  45. hockeyfan530 Says:

    wow, barry isn’t very intelligent is he? LOL I like the mumbled something about my pay grade

  46. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    hey hockey

    I thought it was funny… and thought we could use a laugh about now.

  47. hockeyfan530 Says:

    how does sinclair do his research? It looks like he calls personnally. If this guy is lying what would be the point? None of barry’s supporters will ever buy his book. So what would be his motivation? Attention maybe? I didn’t know what to think about him when he first came onto the scene but since he’s still at it trying to uncover barry i have to say i believe him

  48. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Lawdawg posted early this morning (before 11 am) that the case was denied…

    didn’t make sense, so I am assuming the post was a fake until I see it elsewhere…….

    Not saying they won’t deny the case,….. but they never jumped that quickly before…..

  49. Tenacity Says:

    If that is indeed a BO record, he was a disrespectful smarta** and looks just like what you would expect from a druggy. It speaks to his character, not his IQ. I would say that he hasn’t changed much.

  50. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    I tend to think he is legit… he might drama queen about some things but the core of what he says I think is true..

    as far as his motive?…… I think that limo ride happened…. and you know the saying about a woman scorned ……

  51. hockeyfan530 Says:

    it’s amazing how when something outrageous comes out about barry the reaction is the same for barry supporters and anti-barry folks. Neither group flinches. We expect it and therefore aren’t surprised. They don’t care and ignore it

  52. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    I don’t think he has changed at all,…….. one of the reasons I think he wants his school records kept sealed…. I think he was radical in his opinoins and made no secret of it while in college

  53. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I think our side has had a few surprises…… not about Bam Bam himself….. but I think we thought this was a small group and we could actually get help from inside the government…… I think that is getting more proven false everday that this is ignored..
    This is quite large and it seems to involve not only our government but other countries as well…

  54. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Barry supporters, think we will stoop to anything to bad mouth him…
    they won’t even consider that even if 10% what we claim is factual….that their chosen one is not only a fraud but a corrupt one that will not care about them at all…….

  55. hockeyfan530 Says:

    yep, they are walking through this world completely blinded by their ignorance. I try to keep them informed but they just won’t listen. If it’s not on the MSM they think it’s just smearing barry. And a lot of them don’t care if these things are true or not. Their, i feel uniformed, hatred for bush blinds them even further. Not that bush didn’t screw up but for the most part he did alright. Like everyone said, the bailout was stupid. But bush didn’t do the bailouts alone.

  56. Bob Says:

    Treat ‘Lawdawg’ well — he is clearly very, very, very well connected, and can be a great resource to all of you.

    To test my comment, see what will be posted on Monday.

    If Lawdawg is correct, then you will have your proof of what I have just said.

  57. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    with Bush…… I think many times his back was up against a wall and he had to make the choice between two evils……I think he TRIED to pick the one that harmed us the least……..

    Mistakes might of been made….. but I never doubted he cared about the American people

  58. j.b. Says:

    hockeyfan530 Says:

    January 9, 2009 at 7:35 pm
    how does sinclair do his research? It looks like he calls personnally. If this guy is lying what would be the point? None of barry’s supporters will ever buy his book. So what would be his motivation? Attention maybe? I didn’t know what to think about him when he first came onto the scene but since he’s still at it trying to uncover barry i have to say i believe him

    I am pretty sure Larry does do most of his own “research” but I also believe he has a lot of help from pissed off Hillary supporters. It cracks me up how he just picks up the phone and calls people!

    I am proud to say that I bought Larry’s book. I do believe him-he has absolutely NO reason to lie about Barry. Also, if you have followed him, you know that he is barraged by death threats and harassment every day. He has a brain tumor, is on disability and could have a much easier existence if he just “went away”. I admire his courage in the face of Barry’s machine to the inthe degree.

    He has said this never started as a ploy to reveal Barry’s sexual preference, but to expose Barry for a liar, because he was dishonset about his last drug use. Barry is a sick man and we all know you can’t turn off “sick” at will. The sex part was revealed when the now, alleged former lover and murdered man, Donald Young, called Larry.

    I first heard of Larry, in September (?), when he was in my city to attend a rally featuring Barry. A local radio station interviewed him.

    Foxtrot, would you mind posting that link again? Please post it live, though. We are able to post one at a time, I believe.
    I could not access it……….TIA.

  59. Foxtrot Says:

    Tenacity, it is just as Turner describes it. The coin is clear enough on my screen to see the detail does match, right down to the little”D” on the coin. It is one in the same. The coin designer, Daniel Carr, explains very succinctly why he designed all of these coins and what his motivation was. I am convinced after seeing the coin with my own eyes.

  60. Foxtrot Says:

    In regard to Larry Sinclair—if it wasn’t for Larry, many of us would not have found this site, No Quarter, TD’s site, etc. Larry’s site has been the funnel through which tons of other information has come through. I am grateful for him. He has been subjected to death threats, been called a liar, a cheat, his family has been threatened, their personal information has been hacked, the list goes on and on. Larry Sinclair is a true patriot who wants the truth about Obama to come out. I have been following him for a year now. That is how I heard first about Obama possibly not being a citizen, as well as Larry’s own personal encounter with Obama. I, for one, believe every word of it. Larry has had so much to lose by moving forward with this story. I am grateful he continues to provide us with his site, even though he is gravely ill. Thanks Larry!

  61. j.b. Says:

    If Bush is part of this Amero thing (and if the Amero thing is true then he HAS to be) my “love” and respect for him is so
    G O N E. So sad, I have an emotional hang over today. I am (almost ) embarrassed to say that I spent TWELVE hours on the computer yesterday. Twelve? Twelve. Okay, I am embarrassed.

    Off to ride my stationary, recumbant bike to nowhere………for miles and miles.

    *thanks Troy(?) for the Jeff Dunham (any relation to Stanley, ya think?) I needed that laugh. Badly.*

  62. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    I never said Lawdawg was wrong,….But with the problem of cloning and Obots….. it seemed odd for him to post so soon…
    I am just waiting for it to be confirmed…..

  63. Foxtrot Says:

    JAC- You can bet ol’ Kenyan Granny has been drilled about NOT stating that Obama was born in Kenya!! I am certain someone will ask her, as Obama wants them to, and she will respond as her grandson has instructed her. Then the MSM will say, “see, Granny did not say Barry was born in Kenya?” Amazing how stupid the journalists are today!

  64. j.b. Says:

    Oh, I wanted to comment about the ss# thing. I recall grumblings about Stanley Ann maybe never really dying. This ss# thing puts a little creedance to that rumor, donchathink?

    I mean, I realize we need to wait and see but it made me wonder. And the way Barry acted after she “died”……….this gets creepier and scarier with every turn with each new day.

  65. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    lol that is about my norm during the week,…I tend to hibernate during the winter…. I get cold so easy..

  66. Foxtrot Says:

    Regarding Lawdawg– Lawdawg has been correct with every posting he/she has given in regard to how SCOTUS has ruled. He/she also has given the information very quickly on the day that the Justices are discussing the case. Unless the IP does not match the REAL Lawdawg, then you can take the answer that it was dismissed to the bank! (well, maybe not to the bank as they are not that safe either!) LOL!

  67. Foxtrot Says:

    j.b. – see my earlier post about Ameros. Go to the link, it explains everything and why Turner’s assertations are incorrect. It is simply a commemorative coin. The same person who spoke about it on CNBC and CNN are both followers/believers in Turner.

  68. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    I fully expect that…. Step Granny will be singing a different tune….. The only reason she is even invited is because so many know about her now through the tape……..
    When her service is done she will be tossed back on that plane and forgot about from Bam Bam

  69. Bob Says:

    justanam . . .cindy

    I know, but ‘Lawdawg’ has a track-record that is very good, and he (or she) is prepared to help everyone of us.

    My guess is that the ‘dawg’ means he (or she) is probably from Georgia, and is probably a fan of the ‘Georgia Bulldogs.’

    I ‘m writing this to draw ‘Lawdawg’ out a little bit, in order that he (or she) know that we are prepared to trust him (or her) a little more and more, as what he (or she) reveals pans out.

    I’m a WI Badger, so I know what school spirit means, even though I’m retired now (to date me, I was in the Conrad Hilton Hotel while the riots were across the street in Grant Park in 1968).

    So, I feel I can discern ‘an insider’ when I see one.

    But, I’m like you — always appropriately skeptical of planted information.

    BTW — don’t worry about all of these dismissals. All of the cases now are ‘moot,’ except one, and that is Keyes v Bowen in California, and that is the best one of them all.

  70. Foxtrot Says:

    Yep, JAC, she will go back to her little hut with the dirt floor! Obama will then forget about her completely, just as he did his Grandmother and Mother.

  71. hockeyfan530 Says:

    Yep, they will definitely interview granny bambam and she will have a completely different story. Weird. I wonder what would make her change her story? HMMMMMM Sad thing about it they will use that to discredit berg’s tape….Worse yet, it will work!

  72. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    this might sound hatefull

    but seriously wouldn’t be surprised if all of a sudden it is announced she has cancer and will die a quick and quiet death…..

    What is worst I hate how my mind works now,…. looking for lies and deceet in everything to do with msm and government

  73. Katie Says:

    Bob – my father was working downtown Chicago during the ’68 riots. To this day, I still see the fear in his eyes when he relives it. He was walking on a street and suddenly a taxi pulled up next to him and the driver yelled at him to get in the car if he wanted to live. My father, dressed in his suit and tie, carrying his briefcase, jumped in the back seat, and the car sped him away to safety. I still remember that night when he got home to his wife and us kids in the safe suburbs. It was horrible. But the end of the story that makes it amazing? The cab driver was a black man. Who likely saved my father’s life.

    And Obots want to label us ‘racists’. Welcome to our new reality folks.

  74. j.b. Says:

    Foxtrot-I know what you said. I asked for a live link. I could not access the site. Even when I punched the letters in manually. Thanks, I’ll check back later~

  75. Katie Says:

    Tenacity – thanks for the info. for the meeting. Would have been much happier if they were going to hold it in the DTC instead of southern Wyoming! Unless the weather prevents it, I’ll be there. I never got your email from Rose, tho.

    Rose, is there a way to send my email address to Tenacity or vice versa?

  76. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I will give Bam Bam one thing….. I kind of understand about his Mother.. ignoring her….. If the articles and things I read are true.

    then she was a real piece of work,….. often abusing BO and locking him in the bathroom for hours…. plus her morals were those of an alley cat

  77. Foxtrot Says:

    This just posted by Linda Starr on obamacrimes.com

    written by Linda Starr, January 09, 2009

    Lisa called the court. DO NOT CALL THE COURT! Okay, this is JUST A RUMOR AND IT IS NOT TRUE. The full list isn’t published until Monday. The cases listed in today’s announcement are the expedited cases. Phil & Lisa are about to issue a press release to explain today’s list.

    I also want to let everyone know, we’re really sick of the digs and snide little wise cracks questioning any of our integrity. They also post false information to discourage, confuse and trick people. These people are here to do one thing – disrupt, create chaos, and plant doubts in peple’s minds. It is their job description as paid bloggers to dessiminate false information and propaganda.

    Phil is providing this blog as a means to answer questions of people who genuinely want answers that are truthful. We are under no obligation to provide a forum for paid bloggers to post lies, propaganda, insult us and question our integrity.

    I’ve tried as hard as possible and been patient with these paid propagandists to the best of my ability, but that’s over. People who come on here and post lies will be blocked. Several paid bloggers just got blocked in the past few minutes.

    This is per Lisa’s directions. And Phil will support whatever decision Lisa makes.

  78. Foxtrot Says:

    j.b. — try this link. I hope it is allowed by Rose, as I know full links usually go into moderation.

    Just count down to the 13th row of coins and you will see it.


  79. Foxtrot Says:

    Oops — 17th row, not 13th row!

  80. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    just curious…… does anyone else have a problem getting into Obamacrimes from google ….

  81. Katie Says:

    justanamericancindy4 Says:
    January 9, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    just curious…… does anyone else have a problem getting into Obamacrimes from google ….

    I have LOTS of problems with Google these days…but it doesn’t have anything to do w/ Obama Crimes. Two months ago when I started this information gathering journey, I personally experienced them changing search results overnight. Then I heard about the new “Tech Czar” being the founder of Google, and pieces began to click together. I avoid Google as much as possible.

    And by the way, am I the only one who is alarmed by all these “Czars” that Uhhbama is hiring? Welcome to Amerika.

  82. Foxtrot Says:

    JAC — I have no problem getting in from Google to obamacrimes.com

  83. Foxtrot Says:

    Just in! Burris’s appointment to Senate ruled LEGAL by high court!


  84. Foxtrot Says:

    This is intriguing! This is a post from Linda Starr. I hope it means what I think it means! This definitely lifts my spirits, even if SCOTUS denies Berg’s case. All he will have to do is release the potential birth certificate and Obama is toast!

    Linda Starr said: What makes you so sure someone hasn’t already provided the Hawaiian or Kenyan birth certificate months ago? I’ve told you we have obtained information and evidence via back door methods that while not exatly upfront, were not illegal either.

    Do people really think Phil doesn’t have anything and yet took this case this far?

  85. Katie Says:

    Foxtrot Says:
    January 9, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    Just in! Burris’s appointment to Senate ruled LEGAL by high court!

    Welcome to America’s new pasttime – it’s not baseball. It’s Uhbama Wack-a-mole! There’s so many stories going on, who can keep up?

  86. justanamericancindy4 Says:


    I avoid Google as much as possible myself,….

  87. Foxtrot Says:

    LOL Katie!

  88. Foxtrot Says:

    So, Burris is IN and Reid has egg on his face!

  89. hockeyfan530 Says:

    burris is in because he knows…why else would he use “natural born citizen” when that is not one of the requirements. Blackmail number 1 possibly? Yeah, great work obamanites…way to research your candidates. Glad the blind and ignorant are now the voting majority

  90. Katie Says:

    Foxtrot – gotta laugh or I’ll start crying and won’t be able to stop.

    Imagine if someone had predicted on Sept. 12, 2001 that the next President would be a non-citizen, with ties to an unlimited number of terrorists, a middle name of Hussein and all that implies, who took in hundreds of thousands of dollars from non-Americans, and qualified by just telling the world he’s eligible because he declares it’s true, creates a non existent office of the president elect, declares financial doom and the only thing that will save us is if the government takes care of us.

    It’s so ridiculous even I can’t believe it, yet we’re seeing it right before our eyes.

  91. Katie Says:

    Correction – hundreds of MILLIONS of dollars from non-Americans! (what’s a few zeros among friends???)

    And no, that’s not egg on Reid’s face. That’s just his face. Bwaaack!!

  92. Foxtrot Says:

    Katie — as they say, “truth is stranger than fiction!” Unbelievable!

  93. Foxtrot Says:

    ROSETTA GANG – Everyone needs to go to this link and buy this book! It is exactly what we have been talking about, and finally a MSM regular writes about it. It was immediately a best seller. You can read about it on this link. My order is already in! It is called “A slobbering Love Affair, starring Barack Obama”. Great title, huh?


  94. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Katie, Fox

    some of us are wondering over to my blog….. I set up private threads.
    It is a place to rant and say exactly what is on our minds and not worry about being PC correct…and not have lurking eyes

    Remember that Fox…. is not PC correct….
    Rose’s is still our home….. this just an extra place…..


    Go to the thread Time and submit a comment…. I will then have your email and will send you the password for the other threads

    the pw for Time is ……….wtf

    right now it is quiet over there…… but as this thing evolves.. a private place seemed like a good idea

  95. hockeyfan530 Says:

    cool. I’ll pick one up at the bookstore…as i hate ordering things online…Other than my commemorative barry collector plate, my barry coin and my barry blinders(they’re all the rage these days you know)

  96. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    a notice to the lurkers…….. I know many of you might be perfectly fine… and believe in the cause……. but unless I recognize your handle I will not allow you entry …..

  97. Foxtrot Says:

    hockeyfan–LOL! Actually, you may want to obtain those items as they will become collector items, and worth alot, if Obama is kicked out of office!

  98. Bob Says:

    Foxtrot —

    I had just finished writing the following for someone else, when I took a break to look over your coin photos —

    Same words, different setting, and such a little thing!

    The 14th Amendment says: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are Citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

    [The ‘comma’ placed before ‘and’ creates a dispute whether the second phrase modifies the first or creates an ellipsis. Since an ellipsis reading ‘all persons subject to …’ would allow for a NORTH AMERICAN UNION, including Canada and Mexico, the majority agree that the second phrase modifies the first. However, there could have been a time when such a thing was contemplated. It seems to so little–but it’s not!]

    The 14th Amendment did not immediately create Citizens of ‘Indians not taxed,’ or ‘indigenous peoples.’ They were NOT, and NEVER could be, Citizens of the United States before the Civil Rights Act of 1924, almost 60 years later (see: Elk v. Wilkins, 112 U.S. 94 (1884), below).

    I wrote the last paragraph, because by great uncle was a full-blooded Cherokee who moved to Chicago to build skyscrapers. He was not a Citizen until the Act of 1924, although he fought in World War I.

  99. Foxtrot Says:

    Bob, you are incorrect. You need to look at the 17th row for the coin that says “2007” on it and “20 Ameros”. It is identical in EVERY way, right down to the stars around the woman and the little “D”. It is identical. Trust me on this one.

  100. Foxtrot Says:

    Yes, just checked it again. You can even hear Turner describe the coin in exact detail when you look at the image (I froze the image for each side) and it matches the coin on the collector website EXACTLY (kept up the dc coin photos during comparison). Sorry guys, nothing to see here. We can move along! It is in fact identical in every way!

  101. Foxtrot Says:

    Oops, I guess they aren’t really stars so much as protrusions on both coins around lady liberty. It is one in the same coin!

  102. Foxtrot Says:

    Did everyone order their ” A Slobbering Love Affair” book yet? I can’t wait to get my copy!

  103. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    email sent

  104. Bob Says:

    Foxtrot — I’m sorry — wasn’t I agreeing with you? I thought I was.

    What I was saying, is that the language for such a thing is already in the Constitution, and there will be no need for a Constitutional Amendment, (merely a Supreme Court interpretation of the First Sentence of the 14th Amendment AS WRITTEN and adopted more than 100 years ago).

    So, just like the little details you have pointed out, I was pointing out a little detail in the 14th Amendment that already gives the Federal Government authority to go ahead, and no one has paid much attention to it. I’m only drawing everyone’s attention to a little thing like a ‘comma!’

  105. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    lol I’m cheap…. I’ll go the library or download the pdf when it shows up in torrent…. 🙂

    but 8 out of 10 times… if I really enjoy a book I go out and buy a real copy

  106. jeanniejo Says:

    Happy New Year, sisterrosetta, my longtime traveling companion 😉

  107. Foxtrot Says:

    Sorry, Bob! I misunderstood your post! Glad we agree they are the same coin.

  108. Foxtrot Says:

    JAC- it is only $16 right now on that link.

  109. Bob Says:

    Foxtrot — Thanks, and perhaps I shouldn’t be so wordy! It was just that it was such a coincidence.

    Do you think the Treasury Department is trying to drive the value of the U.S. Dollar and the Canadian Dollar down to the value of One Peso (right now worth less than a dime)?

    Then, well then they can issue the “Amero!”

    And everyone will have tons of coins wearing holes in their pockets and their purses as they lug them around. So, why lug them?! Spend them! Why? They are worthless!

    The New York Times will be able to charge about $5.00 per issue! That should solve all their financial problems! Just imagine the headlines: “Obama bails out the newspapers out with Two Trillion Ameros!”

    And, wouldn’t you want a job that pays you in Pesos, all gussied up and made to look like One Dollar? Maybe you’d even move to Mexico to get one. Maybe drive a truck! NOT!

  110. rosettasister Says:

    Senator Dick Durbin of Illinois insists:


    Durbin: No Seat For Burris Without Signature

    State Supreme Court Rules No Signature Needed


    CHICAGO — U.S. Sen. Dick Durbin says Roland Burris won’t be accepted as President-elect Barack Obama’s replacement in the Senate without the Illinois secretary of state’s signature.

    The Illinois Supreme Court said Friday that Gov. Rod Blagojevich’s appointment of Burris is valid under state law without Secretary of State Jesse White’s signature.

    The court said no Illinois official has to do anything further to validate the appointment made by Blagojevich, and that nothing in state law requires White to sign the appointment.

    But Durbin said the Senate “must insist” on its rule requiring White to sign.

  111. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Bush is trying to get the second part of the bailout pushed in before he leaves office….despite intense opposition in Congress and then have President Bush use his veto if the request is voted down..

    Ok I know most of us did not agree with the bailout……. but it does make you go hmmmmm when you add it in together with it making it harder for Bo to finance his corrupt plans….

    Maybe Bush is trying to tie up funds for the next two years until the Dem’s might not have the majority of congress

  112. j.b. Says:


    Ummmmm, Dr Orly’s site is g o n e……

  113. jjones Says:

    works for me

  114. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    she might of ran into a problem with posting the ss# and the womans name… I found the thread gone

  115. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    ohhh and the newest thread will be the password I gave you… figured out I can’t have two threads with the same password on my blog

  116. Tenacity Says:

    Go to http://justwhispers.blogsome.com password “wtf” for the Time thread . When you leave a message under the Time thread, JAC will send another password to your email. I will see you there.

  117. Foxtrot Says:

    Rose, did you hear any more about the Berg case while I was away?

  118. Tenacity Says:

    Berg v. Obama did not make the list of orders today. In the past, that has been an indicator of a dismissal, but you can speculate as you wish. The fact is, we don’t know what the status is and won’t until Monday.

  119. whatafoolbelieves1 Says:

    I have hoped against hope that Obama, not eligible to POTUS, could be stopped. The fix is in. It doesn’t matter. The Constitution has been thrown aside and we are all just pawns now.

  120. j.b. Says:

    Rut-roh! :O

  121. Tenacity Says:

    Little man being propped up by his unseen speech writers who are trying hard to make him appear Presidential

    “Obama and the Ugly New UnAmerican United States”
    By Rev. Lainie Dowell Thursday, January 8, 2009


  122. Tenacity Says:

    When I got on Plains Radio the other night, I asked about Bob Schulz and We The People Foundation. They had had him on Plains 2 weeks ago and Dr. David spoke highly of the group. I suggested we not reinvent the wheel. Since We The People Foundation has already started the ball rolling to hold a Continental Congress made up of 3 delegates selected from each state, we should consolidate our efforts to support that worthy cause. The focus of WTPF is to not only preserve, but to restore the Constitution. We need to also get the word out that this is NOT a Con Con (Constitutional Convention) but to the contrary. If you have not surfed their site, you should to see what all they represent: http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/
    For those that saw the press conference at the DC Press Club with Taitz and Berg, Schulz is the one that organized it and spoke. I don’t know if I can make it as a national delegate, but I may try.

  123. j.b. Says:

    I printed the lainie Dowell article to read later, Ten, thanks.
    I just read quite a bit at the WTP site…….Tenacity, do you believe the Amero story?

  124. Tenacity Says:

    I do not trust Hal Turner. Hannity has distanced himself from him. The left and some centrist refer to him as a neo-Nazi. Fox may be correct that the coin he shows is a commemorative coin produced by Moonlight Mint in Denver.

    On the other hand, there are a large amount of stories, even some in the MSM, that indicate the real possibility of a movement toward a North American Union. I have no doubt in my mind that there is a substantial conspiracy for a new world order. I have no doubt that the federal government in all 3 branches are deceiving us big time. Thus, the concept of an Amero may be valid, even if Hal Turner is full of it.

  125. Tenacity Says:

    Another eye opener from Canada Free Press:

    Declaration of Independence, America’s Founding Fathers, Universal Declaration of Human Rights, United Nations

    “New GOP Chairman should remove Party from the International Democrat Union”
    By Tom Deweese Thursday, January 8, 2009


    It may be time to initiate a real opposition party. It appears that we are only fantasizing that we now have a 2 party system. It seems that all the pissing and moaning across the isle is more for show. If we can join the PUMAs with WTP, we just might have a chance at pulling a large enough base to compete in 2010. Perhaps WTP needs to extend an invitation to all those who appreciate our constitution. That is essentially our political Bible and a marvelous rallying point. Perhaps some of the other splintered parties could unify around that Shining Beacon on the Hill.


  126. Troy Says:

    The Noonlight Mint story is a disinformation campaign

  127. Troy Says:


  128. Tenacity Says:

    Prove it…seriously, I would love to know. I am in Denver. It crossed my mind. Are you speculating or do you know something?

  129. Troy Says:

    Listen to what Rumsfeld says in the video…..oops!!!!

  130. Troy Says:

    It almost has to be…I’ll check some things.

  131. Tenacity Says:

    I questioned the D mark being allowed on a commemorative coin. I thought the mints destroyed old molds/press heads.

  132. Troy Says:

    THEY DO!!!!!

  133. Troy Says:

    If he had access to the “D” because he supposedly bought a used press, the the “D” would have been part of the striking dye and therefore it would mean that he was sold the dye to be able to stamp out legitimate / counterfit coins….The entire story smells awful.

  134. Troy Says:

    Check this out


  135. j.b. Says:

    I am so glad you brought up the PUMA and WTP topic, Ten.
    I just watched the videos on this website and man o man did it piss me off AND explain alot about what happened in the primaries and ultimately the election.
    I am not a fan of Hillary, so during the primaries I couldn’t have cared less about what happened between “those two”. Also, I believed like so many others that it would ultimately be McCain vs. Clinton in the end.’
    Anyone who is serious about wanting to make sure this NEVER happens again (AN ELECTION STOLEN) should watch these videos.
    WOW. I mean the depth of deception WITHIN their OWN party! Doing this to EACH other! If you’re too tired wait til tomorrow. I recommend everybody watch this.


  136. Troy Says:

    Did ya listen to Rumsfeld say that Flight 93 was shot down…There has never been any question in my mind from day one that it was shot down….If it wasn’t it would mean that we suck big time at home defense.

  137. j.b. Says:

    Troy, I don’t get it. What Rumsfeld said. S’plain, please.

  138. j.b. Says:

    Okay, I see what you wrote above……goin back to watch again.

  139. j.b. Says:

    After watching the trailers for coreofcorruption I can only say, Barry Soetoro better NOT piss off the CIA!

  140. Troy Says:


  141. Troy Says:

    Did you know that a CIA agent was working, here in Houston, on the possibility of a suitcase nuke coming through the port of houston and was assinated by the HPD?…This was recent

  142. Troy Says:

    Here it is


  143. Tenacity Says:

    Check this out: http://www.moonlightmint.com/artifacts.htm

  144. j.b. Says:

    I did notice that Dick Cheney didn’t ask if there were any objections to officially declaring BHO Prez in the joint session yesterday, as is required by US Code:

    3 USC 15 – Sec. 15. Counting electoral votes in Congress
    See paragraph 4, sentence 1.

    C-Span video of joint session, watch starting at 30:10

    President of Senate, Dick Cheney, does not ask for objections
    as required by US Code.

    So if there *were* any Senators or Reps who did want to bring up “Natural Born Citizen” issues, they didn’t have the chance.


  145. j.b. Says:

    II did notice that Dick Cheney didn’t ask if there were any objections to officially declaring BHO Prez in the joint session yesterday, as is required by US Code:

    C-Span video of joint session, watch starting at 30:10

    President of Senate, Dick Cheney, does not ask for objections
    as required by US Code.

    So if there *were* any Senators or Reps who did want to bring up “Natural Born Citizen” issues, they didn’t have the chance.


  146. Troy Says:

    Video…HPD assasination of CIA Agent Carnaby….Carnaby called the FBI on his cell phone while being chased and told them to call HPD HQ and tell them to call off the chase….The call was recieved and ignored by HPD and the hit took place.

    They knew who he was when they pulled him over….A false APB had been put out on him.

    In his vehicle was a cell phone and a laptop and other various items…A federal judge ordered that all evidence be moved into protective custody….HPD destoyed all evidence.

  147. Tenacity Says:

    Unity movements and political mergers are rare and usually short lived. However, when has there ever been such an important common cause? Necessity can make some strange bedfellows. We will need a great love of country to heal wounds and bring about forgiveness sufficient to fight side by side. The key will be staying focused on the primary goal of securing our Constitution.

  148. j.b. Says:

    Dayuum, that’s harsh.

    Did you read the comments at the link you provided above about thsi guy? In particular, the guy that tries so hard to compare his story (first of all, he’s alive enough to write on a blog….) to the the dead CIA guy. Laughable. Not even close.

  149. j.b. Says:

    Tenacity Says:

    January 10, 2009 at 6:16 am
    Unity movements and political mergers are rare and usually short lived. However, when has there ever been such an important common cause? Necessity can make some strange bedfellows. We will need a great love of country to heal wounds and bring about forgiveness sufficient to fight side by side. The key will be staying focused on the primary goal of securing our Constitution.

    Agreed. Pretty sure the Hillbuzz guys will be on board. That’s a start, right?
    Speaking of the Hillbuzz guys, pretty sure one of ’em is in the video I posted. (the seemingly gay one who speaks about driving old ladies to vote)

  150. Tenacity Says:

    If you want to create a monster, bring up your class action idea to Orly Taitz.

  151. Troy Says:

    Ex high ranking Naval Intelligence Officer William “Bill” Cooper announced on his radio show, in June of 2001, that soon there would be a major Islamist terror attack on U.S. soil and it would be blamed on someone called Osama Bin Laden….We know what happened in Sept. 2001….Cooper began investigating the attacks and on Nov. 5th of 2001 he was shot to death outside of his home by Gov. agents.

  152. Troy Says:

    Interesting site….I wonder how he gets away with using the Denver mint “D” on his coins….I would think that there would be a law against that.

  153. j.b. Says:

    I think I got the idea from there…

    You know what pisses me off? I had a good life going. Now? It has been consumed with all this sh!t since friggin august.
    My home and all inhabitants are neglected. I am constantly drawn here or there for more info-constantly.

    And WHY? Because of BARRY F*CKING SOETORO!

    I want my life back.
    I talked to one of my BFF’s tonight for an hour and a half and not until the very end did I ask her, “SO have you ever heard of an Amero”? Of course not. She works. Alot. She does not read the paper or watch the news. I want HER life.

  154. j.b. Says:

    Troy Says:

    January 10, 2009 at 6:30 am
    Ex high ranking Naval Intelligence Officer William “Bill” Cooper announced on his radio show, in June of 2001, that soon there would be a major Islamist terror attack on U.S. soil and it would be blamed on someone called Osama Bin Laden….We know what happened in Sept. 2001….Cooper began investigating the attacks and on Nov. 5th of 2001 he was shot to death outside of his home by Gov. agents.

    Are you kidding me? WTF is happening? None of this makes ANY sense to me! Tell me how that makes any sense, please.

  155. j.b. Says:


    Here’s Hals site. Did you ever read the Swiss bank story, Troy or Tenacity. I forgot to follow up on it on Drudge ……..Well, Hal has it.

    Wikipedia describes him as a white supremacist which must mean he ISN’T!

  156. Troy Says:

    It makes sense only if the gov wants to shut you up.

  157. Tenacity Says:

    If I hang out much longer with you, I will look like a tin foiled Cone Head.

  158. Troy Says:

    He is a concerned citizen who doesn’t trust, like, or believe the gov., same as us.

  159. j.b. Says:


    CHECK THIS OUT! Hal better not be pallin’ around with no CIA guys. Fo sho.

  160. Troy Says:


  161. j.b. Says:

    Troy Says:

    January 10, 2009 at 6:39 am
    It makes sense only if the gov wants to shut you up.
    Troy, that doesn’t make sense either. Please do not tell me that you think WE (BUSH) brought down those towers. And killed all those people.

  162. j.b. Says:

    I think we need to “talk” to Hal. Find out where he’s coming from. I want to know what pressure the gubment put on HIM to close down his bloggy blog.

  163. Troy Says:

    I read all that before in another article several weeks ago

  164. Tenacity Says:

    I was planning to go to bed 2 hours ago. I don’t know which one of us is the worst influence on the other…GOOD NIGHT! FOR SURE…DEFINITELY… I’m hitting the shut down…NOW!

  165. j.b. Says:

    Of course you did.

  166. j.b. Says:

    Night, Ten.

  167. j.b. Says:

    I’m goin’ too……see ya.

  168. Troy Says:

    j.b. Says:

    January 10, 2009 at 6:43 am
    Troy Says:

    January 10, 2009 at 6:39 am
    It makes sense only if the gov wants to shut you up.
    Troy, that doesn’t make sense either. Please do not tell me that you think WE (BUSH) brought down those towers. And killed all those people.
    I have been one of the people to dog the hell out of anyone that thought that, but lately I have been coming across a lot of info that doesn’t look so good for our gov.

  169. Tenacity Says:

    Okay, one last comment…hahaha We need to hear Berg’s story on this. He’s been pegged a nut case and I have totally dissed every 9/11 conspiracy theorist. Now my curiosity is up.

    Okay, I’m powering down…I promise.

  170. j.b. Says:

    FWIW, my 6:46 was in reply to Troy’s 6:45…….
    I know, it ain’t worth much but I wrote it anyway.

    Troy, feel free to stay and talk amongst yourself. I do it all the time. 🙂

  171. j.b. Says:

    Well, my brain won’t let that in right now…….and that’s alright with me. goodnight, Irene and the rest of ya’s.

  172. ILBlue Says:

    Noticed you mentioned the Amero and then Turner are you talking about the Hal Turner Show site? I followed a link to that site a couple of weeks ago, not sure whether it was from Citizen Wells or where I found the link.

    I had asked some at hillarysvillage in the Constitutional section if they knew anything about him.

    His site is off the charts. I saw the one with the train cars , which somehow I had read about before.

    Was wondering if this guy is for real, some of his commenters are over the top and things he says are over the top. But I do go and read it because there are some interesting subjects he discusses.

    Just not crazy about the anti-semetic (sp?) and “Racist” commenters.

    His he serious ? Never had any response to my question in a thread I started .

    Curious what others think , I have to say ?

  173. j.b. Says:

    Okay, so wikipedia was right about Hal. He is a white supremacist. I just read there for half an hour or so. I feel dirty. blech.

    I do wonder what he’ll do with all that info he (supposedly)has on the $ laundering and the media, congress and the various judges and what nots.

  174. ILBlue Says:

    Another comment is I read in the thread before this one about the explanation of the power groups and found that very interesting and easy to follow. Great job of explaining.

    Are people giving up their 401k’s ? I have no idea what to do? Is a money market ok? Or IRA?

    Would appreciate if someone knows anything since I really don’t have a male family member or someone I know to ask.

    And read somewhere about Chase/Morgan Stanley might go under?

    Thank you if anyone can help with any of my questions, I would be eternally grateful..

  175. ILBlue Says:


    Thank you, I could tell by the commenters to his diaries were probably white supremist and concerned about some of the things this man says.

    I wondered if I just took it too seriously. Gosh I almost thought he should be reported to the FBI or something. But I bet they are already watching his site don’t you think?

  176. Ted Says:

    The nation owes more than thanks to three unlikely modern day patriots: professional poker player, musician, and retired attorney, Leo Donofrio; life long Democrat and former Pennsylvania assistant attorney general, Phil Berg; and Soviet emigree and attorney, Dr. Orly Taitz (she’s also a dentist).

    While Mr. Donofrio painstakingly established the airtight case that BHO could not be an Article II “natural born citizen” (at BHO’s birth, dad was British/Kenyan, not American, citizen) Leo’s Stay of the 12/15/08 electoral college vote was denied by SCOTUS as procedurally unripe.

    Nevertheless, since no congressman and senator objected on 1/8/09 to Congress’ count and certification of the electoral vote which would have turned resolution of Obama’s eligibility issue over to Congress — rendering moot the Berg and Taitz (Lightfoot) cases — Berg finally does achieve standing on the issue of actual harm, to be addressed at the Friday 1/9/09 SCOTUS Conference on Writ of Certiorari. Obama’s failure to submit evidence of his constitutional qualification for the 1/9/09 conference will mean he cannot thereafter challenge Berg’s request to enjoin the 1/8/09 Congressional electoral count and certification, albeit retroactive, scheduled for SCOTUS conference Friday 1/16/09. Moreover, Chief Justice Roberts has scheduled a full Court conference on the Lightfoot case Friday 1/23/09 in the event there needs to be a Constitutionally mandated action, the Inauguration itself, to enjoin retroactively.

    Now that BHO is in checkmate and cannot be POTUS, he can be a patriot as well. He need not subject the nation to the expense and trauma of requiring SCOTUS to overrule his ‘Presidency’. BHO can and should voluntarily step down with Biden becoming Acting POTUS under the 20th Amendment, and under the agreement all potential claims by the Government for itself and on behalf of others against BHO are released.

  177. Tenacity Says:

    My degree is in financial management (I am not a professional financial manager) and I am an asset (real estate) manager.

    My advise…diversify as much as reasonably possible. Do not over leverage (borrow too much against any asset). Some of your portfolio should be in liquid non-dollar based assets (Gold, guns, solid foreign currency, real estate, foreign stock), but don’t go overboard. If the dollar doesn’t go down, then you will have hurt yourself by going too far. I would keep some U.S. dollar based cash assets as well. By diversifying, no matter what happens, you will not become destitute and you provide yourself a natural hedge against varying market conditions. My $0.02 worth.

  178. Tenacity Says:

    Internet Radio

    WTP Chairman Bob Schulz will be a guest on a http://www.bbsradio.com Saturday AM show hosted by Eliezer Ben-Joseph to discuss Continental Congress 2009. Schulz will be the guest for the second hour of the show beginning at 8 AM Pacific, (11 AM Eastern) this Saturday, January 10th.

    To listen, click on “Station #1” and then the “play” button. The radio station call-in lines are (local) 915-544-5876 and toll free, 800-706-0450.

  179. Tenacity Says:

    I just realized that last post says AM and was earlier this morning. My apology.

  180. rosettasister Says:

    I think this is on C-Span now.

    New Thread:


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