Jessica Martin & Mark Steyn “A Marshmallow World”

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marshmallow

http://www.amazon.com/Marshmallow-World-Martin/dp/B001HKRKFU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1229707703&sr=1-1

Hugh Hewitt interviews Mark Steyn:

H1: Mark Steyn, Eli Lake

12180801 Hewitt: Hour 1

Hugh talks about the news of the week with Columnist To the World Mark Steyn, and then talks about the revision of Obama’s 16 month withdrawal plan in Iraq with New Republic contributor Eli Lake.

Listen here:

http://townhall.edgeboss.net/download/townhall/audio/mp3/f1a6a228-4ef8-4b7f-bb23-5767d8511645.mp3

Transcript:

Mark Steyn on being cool in one’s shoes versus being cool while ducking them.

http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/talkradio/transcripts/Transcript.aspx?ContentGuid=0ece01e0-455e-4dee-8b70-4f1883cbafa2

EXCERPT

HH: But nevertheless, Barack Obama is too damn dull. He’s got to liven it up a bit. What do you think?

MS: Well, I think he won the election by being cool. He just stood there a lot of the time and looked fantastically cool. That was what decided the election for him in mid-September. When John McCain was running around like some big, neurotic ninny, suspending his campaign and going back to Washington to work on whatever bailout was going on that week, that’s when Obama won, just by standing still and looking cool, the way great movie actors do. Often, if you think of great iconic movie stars, just to take Obama’s fellow smoker Humphrey Bogart, when we think of Bogie, I mean, he’s got great lines. But a lot of the time he’s just standing there looking terrifically cool. But whether a president can do that for four years, I don’t know. I mean, it’s interesting to me on all this business in Chicago. When he’s asked about it, he gives one of his very cool answers, very evenly modulated. If ever there was a time to get excited and show some genuine outrage, it’s the idea of this guy trying to sell off your Senate seat. Yet this sort of very flat, very even, very cool mode seems to be all Obama has.

HH: Mark Steyn, some of that I put down to the television age, and I bring up, not because I don’t like him, in fact, I do like Anderson Cooper, but I don’t think Anderson Cooper ever smiles. And most of the anchors that we now see try to adopt a pose of being completely unruffled by everything, and never evidencing any sort of engagement or attachment. And I think Obama’s figured out that this works for them, and he wants to be sort of a television anchor president. But that doesn’t work very well.

MS: No, I’m not sure how you can keep that term. I mean, people feel differently about it. I was complaining about this to Alan Colmes over at Fox, and saying that he’s too mellow. And I said he’s like Perry Como singing Winter Wonderland. And Alan Colmes said no, you mean he’s like your record of Marshmallow World. And of course, that’s what he’s not. If he was as perky…

HH: If he was happy…

MS: …as me and Jessica doing Marshmallow World, it would be a variation in tone. That’s the point. You know, President Reagan, for example, was a very buoyant, sunny, optimistic guy, and projected that. But he could also be very serious. I mean, this guy, you can’t do this sort of minimalist method acting presidency. He’s got to expand his range a bit.

Website mentioned at very beginning of podcast:

ResistObamaNow.com

http://www.grassfire.org/111/petition.asp?pid=19070692

“Obama letter to Sen and Reps 03” from ThinkingMom:

http://www.4shared.com/file/76726494/abe755de/Obama_letter_to_Sen_and_Reps_03.html

Phil Berg Barack Obama Ron Polarik Jeff Schreiber

127 Responses to “Jessica Martin & Mark Steyn “A Marshmallow World””

  1. rosettasister Says:

    I’ve created a link to access and download the letter ThinkingMom and I were discussing in previous thread.

    As soon as I get her permission, I’ll insert into post above.

    Rosetta

  2. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Go ahead with it Rose… as long as it mets your standards, you can post away! ~M

  3. rosettasister Says:

    Okay, I’ve added link at bottom of post above.

    Thanks, TM!

  4. thinkingmom11 Says:

    this is cool:

    aipnews.com/talk/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1380&posts=3

    Looks like Linder MAY be willing to stand up! What a roller coaster!

  5. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Adding him back to my list…

  6. Troy Says:

    Just so y’all know, all over the blog sites people are doing exactly what we are doing here….They are sending letters to Congressmen / women and Senators….You can best believe we are being heard.

    I think it would be a good idea to print the AOL Poll results page and include it along with the letter….It will show them just how many people believe that Obama has an eligibility problem….According to what the poll results suggest, it’s over half of the country.

    Yeah, um hm, we are just a fringe group….pfffttt

  7. rosettasister Says:

    thinkingmom11 Says:
    December 19, 2008 at 6:56 pm

    Adding him back to my list…

    ———————
    You may want to follow this thread, Mom:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2150318/posts

    To: autumnraine
    http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=2002
    Update: Just received word of the following:
    [Former Congressman] JD [Hayworth (R-AZ)] said he called Rep. Linder today, as he is a friend of his. Linder DENIED that he is going to object, so that is a total rumor. JD Hayworth is a reputable source.

    200 posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 8:09:35 AM by rosettasister

    To: rosettasister
    So his representative lied? Made a point to actually CALL ME and lie?
    Something fishy is going on here.

    201 posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 8:48:59 AM by autumnraine

    To: All; LucyT
    Do you think he was called and encouraged NOT to object?
    I’m confused and sad.

    202 posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 8:54:55 AM by autumnraine

    To: autumnraine
    “Something fishy is going on here.”
    I’d say so!
    Is this another episode of the incoming fascists ne: Chicago thug politics, using strongarm tactics to silence dissent?

    203 posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 9:15:12 AM by Canedawg

  8. Troy Says:

    OMG…Hahaha….I just checked the poll results….Now California and even Hawaii have turned red….There is only a couple of yellow states left.

    The entire world must realize that Obama is an ineligible schiester.

  9. j.b. Says:

    Troy, I had heard that it was possible to vote more than once in that poll. (Once a day maybe?) I’m not sure.
    If true, however,
    I think it gives the poll less creedance. imo.

  10. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Well, I guess it will be best to include Linder on the mailing list…he may be denying in order to get people off his back (the bad guys)

    Troy – are people only allowed to vote once? I have been unable to vote again but is there a way people may be able to revote? If each person (IP address) is only allowed to vote once that would give the poll a lot more credibility…

  11. thinkingmom11 Says:

    jb – great minds….hmmm

  12. j.b. Says:

    Hopefully, Linder just doesn’t wanna show his hand. If he was “encouraged” via phone call-Please, God, let him have recorded it!

    Oh and Hello to Everybody! Snowed in here. SaveUSA, we must be neighhbors! (I’m in G.R., too, in case you missed me saying so last night)
    🙂

  13. j.b. Says:

    thinkingmom11 Says:

    December 19, 2008 at 7:12 pm
    jb – great minds….hmmm

    LOL! What a friggin’ riot! Twice! 🙂

  14. hockeyfan530 Says:

    i was changing cd’s in my car while i was doing that i had to listen to laura ingram. I refuse to listen to talk radio anymore because they aren’t doing their job just like the rest of the msm. What i realized is that IF this bc and eligibility thing ever does blow up on bambam will anyone EVER listen to any of these people, or the MSM, again!? Hannity was one of the best during the election. However, he fell short in that he never brought up Rahli Odinga and bambam. I think that association made Ayers, Wright, Rezko, ACORN and Kahlid look like boy scouts. Now, that the election is over NO ONE will touch the eligibility issue! The dual citizenship is a fact. There is nothing “tin foil” about it. He was born with dual citizenship PERIOD. So he’s not a natural born citizen. It is a legitimate point. It may be a “technicality” but it IS the constitution! Why are they ignoring this? I just don’t get it. It p^&&es me off so much that these self-appointed “watchdogs” will not talk about this. Rush included of course. If these people would talk about this we would see some real action. We have to rely on everyday citizens to do the job of the media and our elected officials….I say BS!

    thanks for letting me rant

  15. patriotamy Says:

    Rosetta, thank you for letting me join. I probably won’t post much, but nice to have that option. Would like to say congrats to Slider on the new ‘wee one’!

    This whole thing is beginning to be very discouraging. Is there anything more we can do to stop this craziness?

  16. Troy Says:

    Troy – are people only allowed to vote once? I have been unable to vote again but is there a way people may be able to revote? If each person (IP address) is only allowed to vote once that would give the poll a lot more credibility…
    ———————————————————–
    I took me almost a week to be able to vote again…I just voted again today

  17. Troy Says:

    Welcome patriot amy

  18. j.b. Says:

    I hear ya, HF!

    Welcome, amy! Keep your powder dry (as Troy, Ten and others would say) and your chin up. We are doing MORE-every day. 🙂

    WE WILL NOT RELENT.

    Barry Soetoro aka Barrack Hussein Obama (lol, as if that’s a better name!) MUST BE STOPPED.

  19. j.b. Says:

    Well, that’s good to know, Troy. Thanks for checking.
    bbl~

  20. patriotamy Says:

    Powder is dry.. been that way for a while :). Thanks. GIVE UP is not in my vocabulary.

  21. Troy Says:

    I would like to offer a correction….I just looked again and it seems that I am able to vote over and over in the AOL POLL if I wanted to.

  22. Tenacity Says:

    Thinkingmom’s letter is a good point of reference. Dr. Kate’s letter to Justice Roberts is also a good point of reference. If you do not have the time or desire to write your own letters, then use whatever you can and send them out.

    I would just like to encourage everyone to write your own letter. Think about it…if your were a senator or congressman and you got a bunch of the same letter, how many times would you read it? This is one reason why Leo despises form letters. They do not have the same impact as individual expressions.

  23. hockeyfan530 Says:

    this is an interesting read…and i like how the author calls bambam
    A.K.A.

    officialwire.com/main.php?action=posted_news&rid=82820&catid=10

  24. Tenacity Says:

    patriotamy Says:
    December 19, 2008 at 7:31 pm

    Powder is dry.. been that way for a while :). Thanks. GIVE UP is not in my vocabulary.

    Is it possible that we are related?

  25. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Tenacity – I agree completely. Use the letters other people post as jumping off points. Add your own concerns and flair to them. I don’t mind someone using my letter as is, I agree that there is much more impact when Congressmen see many people willing to take the time to express their concerns personally.

  26. koyaan Says:

    thinkingmom11 wrote:

    Troy – are people only allowed to vote once? I have been unable to vote again but is there a way people may be able to revote? If each person (IP address) is only allowed to vote once that would give the poll a lot more credibility…

    Simple online polls like that don’t have any credibility. Even if they can’t be stuffed.

    k

  27. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Koy – I personally don’t think hardly ANY polls have credibility. They can be worded and twisted in such ways that anyone can get any result they want. I wouldn’t use the AOL poll as a scientific one anyway, Koyaan, but it is an interesting sidenote.

  28. thinkingmom11 Says:

    If indeed people can vote over and over – it makes it completely silly though….

  29. hockeyfan530 Says:

    you know what’s sad, and funny in a “man I can’t believe people are so stupid” kind of way?

    Going back and reading articles about bambam(from before the primaries, during the primaries and during the election) that would have DESTROYED any other candidate! I mean all of the crap on bambam that was simply ignored!

    It just makes you shake your head and say WOW! Over 1/2 of the american people are completely ignorant! LOL

  30. sdee Says:

    Leo has a new post up on his WordPress blog. A clarification of some of the legal issues for history, and it seems, a summary of his disgust with the Supreme Court handling of the eligibility cases.

    “They fumbled on purpose because they were afraid to run with the ball and get hit.”

  31. Tenacity Says:

    sdee,
    I don’t even have to read Leo’s new post to agree with him. I believe it is time that we make the Senators and Congressmen pay for not standing up for us and the Constitution. It is time to threaten every one of them with NO donations and NO votes in the future for every one of them that do not stand up and have some guts. Vet the Also Known As, vet him now or pay the price. We The People will be heard…Our Constitution IS IMPORTANT…STAND UP and demand the constitutional requirements be met. We need to call the cowards out and let them see our fury and disgust for their cowardice.

  32. Troy Says:

    Simple online polls like that don’t have any credibility. Even if they can’t be stuffed.
    ———————————————————–
    Your right, but just like Obama, they don’t need to have credibility….They still serve their purpose and that is simply to get someone’s attention.

  33. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    exhausted,…. but here for a few minutes…… have puppies 🙂

  34. hockeyfan530 Says:

    cool…congrats cindy

    are they bassett hounds?

  35. Troy Says:

    exhausted,…. but here for a few minutes…… have puppies
    ———————————————————-
    Did you name one them Obama?

  36. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    have 4 sweet little chihuahua babies,..3 girls 1 boy… lost 3…. she HAD 7…. which is HUGE litter for a chihuahua

  37. rosettasister Says:

    justanamericancindy4 Says:
    December 19, 2008 at 8:45 pm

    exhausted,…. but here for a few minutes…… have puppies 🙂

    ——————

    Cindy, I know how you feel sort of.

    Still have kitty from Mama Cat litter.

    All is well?

  38. koyaan Says:

    thinkingmom11 wrote:

    Koy – I personally don’t think hardly ANY polls have credibility. They can be worded and twisted in such ways that anyone can get any result they want. I wouldn’t use the AOL poll as a scientific one anyway, Koyaan, but it is an interesting sidenote.

    Well sure. Polls can be manipulated in other ways. Was just pointing out that simple online polls like the one on AOL aren’t meaningful in any way because the results depend on who bothers to go there and vote.

    k

  39. rosettasister Says:

    Lost 3?!

    How heartbreaking!

  40. hockeyfan530 Says:

    bambam, michelle, little t. rezko, soetoro, barry?

  41. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Troy

    lol i joked about that last night,……

  42. hockeyfan530 Says:

    sorry about the 3…

    and sorry they aren’t basset hounds…I take back my congratulations

    Just kidding of course

  43. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Rose

    thanks,…. that was tough losing 3,…. but all seems to be well with the others

  44. rosettasister Says:

    justanamericancindy4 Says:
    December 19, 2008 at 8:53 pm

    Rose

    thanks,…. that was tough losing 3,…. but all seems to be well with the others

    —————————

    That’s what counts now.

    Were you up all night?

  45. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    she started labor just about 6:30 last night…… delivered the last one at 2pm today….only napped for 1 1/2 hours

  46. rosettasister Says:

    justanamericancindy4 Says:
    December 19, 2008 at 9:00 pm

    she started labor just about 6:30 last night…… delivered the last one at 2pm today….only napped for 1 1/2 hours

    ————————

    Wow! Mucha Chihuahua!

  47. rosettasister Says:

    I almost forgot to post this:

    Supreme Court to talk about Obama 3rd time
    Berg eligibility case set for conference Jan. 9

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=83980

    Freeper Thread:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2151590/posts

  48. Ksinde. Says:

    Hi All… Congrats Cindy, I didn’t know you were expecting…lol… Sry she lost 3, that is heart breaking. What a quiwinky dink that Slider had his yesterday too. I think you should name the male pup Slider…lol

    Mom, I sent an email to Rep Linder anyhow to thank him. Maybe if he gets an out pouring of encouraging emails from thankful people he will have the balls to stand up and object. I thought peep pressure is over with after you get out of school?!? So sad…

  49. patriotamy Says:

    Congrats Cindy.

    I had been checking Leo’s site everyday for a while, he has had such insight in all of this. I agree on the letter thing. If they get ‘form’ letters, they are not likely to read or pay any attention to them.

  50. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    thanks everyone…..
    sorry but i am going to try to catch a nap

  51. indy500 Says:

    patriotamy Says:
    December 19, 2008 at 7:31 pm
    ______________________________
    Glad to know I’m not the only one!

    Anyone see Blag0 the b00kie press conference? I’m telling you folks – a b00kie/thug knows how to back up his threats. I have no doubt he had his very own taping system and he has stuff that will prove he acted according to Chicago SOP and that he was loyal to his master. No doubt, if it comes to it, the whole pile of compost will reek throughout the land.

    You gotta love a self serving rat that only looks out for his best interest and comfort level. No way that kind of slimy thug is gonna suffer after sooooo many years of underhanded BS that has served him sooo! well.

    Powder is dry Patriot! Spread the word!

  52. rosettasister Says:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2151590/posts

    Berg also resubmitted 08A505 to Scalia:
    Dec 17 2008 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of January 9, 2009
    Dec 17 2008 Application (08A505) denied by Justice Kennedy.
    Dec 18 2008 Application (08A505) refiled and submitted to Justice Scalia.
    http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08-570.htm

    1 posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 1:23:50 PM by Red Steel

    To: Red Steel
    Hey Red, do you have any idea what the status of the Keyes case is? thanks

    6 posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 1:28:47 PM by MountainWoman

    To: MountainWoman
    The last I heard, the CA court will take it up in early or mid March.

    8 posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 1:31:34 PM by Red Steel

    To: Red Steel
    To be clear, this case below is 08-570 a separate action from the /Application/Injunction 08A505.
    “Dec 17 2008 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of January 9, 2009 “

    14 posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 1:35:50 PM by Red Steel

    To: Red Steel
    I believe SCOTUS has indicated THEY DON’T CARE by their previous denials on these other cases. They have now said they don’t care about the US Constitution. If Obama were a white Republican I bet they would care!

    13 posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 1:35:40 PM by teletech

    To: teletech
    BUT SCOTUS has not denied any of the “Writ of Certiorari” in any of the cases. What they have denied is only the stays that were for the two elections.

    16 posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 1:38:51 PM by Red Steel

    To: trumandogz
    Congress could certify the EC vote, but a disqualification could still occur afterward, couldn’t it?

    17 posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 1:39:43 PM by Genoa

    To: Genoa
    Yes and a clarification. If the Supreme Court find that Obama is not a ‘natural born citizen’ after Obama is sworn in as president, it will take Congress to act on the SCOTUS ruling to impeach him.
    Many of the Obots and others think Obama will be in the clear after January 20th, not so. The liar in chief would have the biggest political problem that would rival any in history, which would dog him for the rest of his administration if Congress does not do their Constitutional duty.

    24 posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 1:46:18 PM by Red Steel

    To: Red Steel
    If you want to prove that Obama was born in Kenya, all you need to do is file a FOIA Request with the State Department for them to release a copy of Obama’s DS-1350 which would have been issued at the U.S. Embassy in Kenya.

    26 posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 1:52:25 PM by trumandogz

    To: trumandogz
    There’s one problem with what you say. Obama’s mommy may not have gone to the U.S. Kenyan Embassy in 1961 to file her foreign birth.

    29 posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 1:58:20 PM by Red Steel

    To: trumandogz
    If Mother Obama did not go to the U.S. Embassy to apply for a birth certificate, how is it that she got Baby Obama into the U.S. without documentation. I for example, was born overseas and my mama had to have documentation to get me into the U.S.
    Good question. If you have been following these threads from the beginning you would know babies did not need passports in the early 60’s since they traveled on their mother’s passport. However, filing an FOIA with the State Department is a good idea…cover all the bases.
    I needed that BC from the U.S. Embassy to enroll in school, play Little League, set my S.S. Card, get my U.S. Passport, my DL enroll in College etc.
    How do you propose Obama did all the above things without a B.C?
    And you would know, if you followed these Obama citizen status threads, that Hawaii issued COLBs and birth certificates to foreign born babies up to 1972.
    Oh, and you do not need a birth certificate to get a passport. The State Department accepts “Secondary evidence of U.S. Citizenship” that makes it a lot easier to game the system.
    So “proving your age” to play little league baseball would have been easy for Obama because the State of Hawaii once had flimsy rules in place.

    43 posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 2:23:12 PM by Red Steel

    Conversation continues at above link.

  53. Ksinde. Says:

    Foxy, when you check in, did you have any luck finding law dogs blog? I looked for it but only came up with 2. But they had older threads. Nothing current or anything to do with BO’s citizenship

  54. patriotamy Says:

    Well said, Foxtrot..

  55. Foxtrot Says:

    ATTENTION ROSETTA GANG: Imagine if our forefathers had shirked their duties as Americans and waited for others to pick up the baton and run with it. Our democracy and all of our freedoms would not exist. We cannot simply look at an issue and view it through the eyes of it being “futile” or “too difficult”. Anything worth getting is going to be difficult. We are on the verge of a large denigration of our Constitution. We can either sit by and say it is insurmountable, or we can join forces, and use our tenacity, intellect and hard work to affect change for our country! “We the People”, isn’t that how the Declaration of Independence begins? WE ARE THE PEOPLE, WE ARE THE GOVERNMENT, and only WE can keep it on the straight and narrow. I cannot go quietly into the night and wait for “someone else to fix the problem”. It is MY problem, it is YOUR problem, it is America’s problem! We need all of you to write your Congressmen/women and ask them to validate Obama’s eligibility. Nothing short of our democracy depends on it!

  56. indy500 Says:

    Chicago B00kie/thug has proclaimed that he is innocent! In his fragile, corrupt mind he has done no wrong. He’s an insider to all things sinister in the cesspool. Don’t think for a minute he will take a fall for the biggest unspoken truth that everyone suspects.

    Patriot my sister or brother – Dry and ready.

  57. sliderblaze Says:

    patriotamy Says:
    December 19, 2008 at 7:15 pm

    Rosetta, thank you for letting me join. I probably won’t post much, but nice to have that option. Would like to say congrats to Slider on the new ‘wee one’!

    —————————————–

    thanks…so far, he never cries, he cried when he came out, when he got his foot pricked, so far, thats it, just a lil wimper and he’s done

  58. sliderblaze Says:

    thehill.com/leading-the-news/with-economy-in-shambles-congress-gets-a-raise-2008-12-17.html

    congress gets a raise, why am i not suprised…..

  59. Ksinde. Says:

    Slider…Congrats. Love the name Aiden! Wow, 4 pushes with first baby. Now that is one hell of a woman!

  60. sliderblaze Says:

    lol, like she said, she couldnt wait to get him outta her

  61. Ksinde. Says:

    lol…she meant what she said! that is amazing for sure

  62. Ksinde. Says:

    JB, thanks for the recipe. I am making cookies tomorrow and will try the recipe. Do you think it would taste good also without the pecans? My kids aren’t big nut fans.

  63. sliderblaze Says:

    My kids aren’t big nut fans.
    ——————————-

    i’ll let that one slide….

  64. patriotamy Says:

    Just so you know, I am of the female gender. But was raised in Wyoming, did the whole hunting, fishing, camping scene. Not afraid of anything that goes bump in the night. But letting this Constitutional smear get by would be a travesty.

  65. jeanniejo Says:

    Good afternoon, sisterrosetta — my longtime traveling companion 😉

    http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/18-12-2008/106848-Code_Name_Obama-0

    The Mysterious Shadow: Code Name Obama

  66. Ksinde. Says:

    lol slider…i knew it once i wrote it…the gutter…lmao

  67. hockeyfan530 Says:

    jeannie

    I read that article the other day. They had another good one a few days ago. Calling obama a con man. Wish someone in the mainstream would write something like that. But, in the plus side, we know how much Palin spent on her clothes for the campaign!

  68. Katie Says:

    Re: the AOL survey. I thought it was accepting multiple votes (every time I reboot my computer the vote buttons show). However, the vote only counts the first time (as it should be – unless you’re a Democrat/ACORN/Obama/Illinois voter!) because it asks what state you are from. Rasmussen et all get compensated very well to offer polls that have several thousand responses. The AOL poll has close to 100,000 people that have taken the time to let their voices be heard.

  69. Katie Says:

    Here’s the AOL poll link: h t t p://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/12/05/hot-seat-obamas-birth-certificate/

  70. j.b. Says:

    Ksinde, you’re welcome. The recipe makes a big batch, which is nice. I did not know that when I made them the first time and doubled it. Think about that as you get to the mixing part. I had to ask big, strong, hubby to “help”.

    No nuts? No problem. 🙂 Enjoy!

    *we decided to join the gun club this year. i took the ccw class a few years ago but never followed through and now am not comfortable with my little thirty eight special. so, we are going back to the gallery………can’t wait*

  71. hockeyfan530 Says:

    that poll is great. Wish it were more scientific. It sure looks pretty red. I wish we could FORCE this issue out there so the MSM HAS to cover it…but how? how damn it!? LOL

  72. hockeyfan530 Says:

    this is just for fun. It’s the biggest villian of the 2008 election. Obama is at 14%

    blog.indecision2008.com/2008/12/19/you-decide-the-indecision-2008-awards-for-indecision-2008-brought-to-you-by-indecision-2008-the-best-campaign-villain-of-2008/

  73. Troy Says:

    and now am not comfortable with my little thirty eight special.
    ——————————————————-
    may I suggest an upgrade…It’s not good to have a
    pea-shooter in a gun battle.

  74. indy500 Says:

    patriotamy Says:
    December 19, 2008 at 11:04 pm
    ______________________________

    My wife is cut from similar cloth. We have a unique relationship. I don’t know how it happens but every so often we get into a discussion on who had it worse and who can survive under the worst of conditions. It can last for hours. It always ends up with me being amazed on how blessed I am to have such an amazing woman. I can say that I have been to all corners of this earth and have never, ever met anyone – man, woman or child who has stood tall in the face of total sh!t like my woman. Until I met her, I never thought a woman could ever be close to a point that she could stand up to adversity and kick its ass so thourgholy that it makes my own efforts seem ordinary.

    About 5 years ago, I learned a lesson that I thought was only possible among my buddies at the Legion hall and at rollcall. I guess thats why Sarah Palin hit such a strong feeling in my soul. I’m a strong believer in equality no matter what’s between your legs.

    Powder is freakin dry! My 6 is covered! Hope the rest can say the same.

  75. Tenacity Says:

    Foxtrot Says:
    December 19, 2008 at 10:04 pm

    ATTENTION ROSETTA GANG: Imagine if our forefathers had shirked their duties as Americans and waited for others to pick up the baton and run with it. Our democracy and all of our freedoms would not exist. We cannot simply look at an issue and view it through the eyes of it being “futile” or “too difficult”. Anything worth getting is going to be difficult. We are on the verge of a large denigration of our Constitution. We can either sit by and say it is insurmountable, or we can join forces, and use our tenacity………… Nothing short of our democracy depends on it!
    **************
    Use me…use me up

  76. indy500 Says:

    Read back through and saw what Koyaan said about Linda Star storming the Supreme Court or Congress or whatever it was. Don’t ask me to quote, (ready to hit the sack) but in my opinion she is a firebreathing, pompous, arrogant blowhard. Not to say I believe all of what K believes but on this simple point, I agree. In all other things, I think he’s wasting our time with simple selfserving stuff that is an attempt to legitimize his presence here.

  77. Tenacity Says:

    indy,
    I came so close to engaging the reactive earlier today. Then I crawled out of the muck before I got started…praise God!

  78. indy500 Says:

    “I will fight – I will fight – I will fight……”

    Give it up Blag0. Political posturing aside – You’re casting a bad light on Ms. Kennedy’s NY bid. So she doesn’t have a lick of experience, msm is skepticale of open seats – appointing a senator these days is a tough and expensive thing – you’re only making it tough for your master. 0 is watching your every move and hoping for the best.

  79. Tenacity Says:

    indy,
    What is her actual last name?

  80. indy500 Says:

    Tenacity Says:
    December 20, 2008 at 3:27 am
    _________________________________
    If you’re talking about Kennedy I think it starts with an S. Not certain exactly what it is. Kinda like 0. Is his name 0bama or S0ret0. A big huge 0 on past history for Ms. Kennedy. I wonder why msm has suddenly focused on her while they totally ignored 0 when he was running for POTUS. I agree with you that Ms. Kennedy is an unknown. But 0 was just as unknown and in my opinion even more so. I don’t think the name is enough to be elected as senator. However, if the country elects an absolute total unknown illegal alien as president, why not elect a lesser unqualified senator.

  81. patriotamy Says:

    Troy Says:

    December 19, 2008 at 11:52 pm
    and now am not comfortable with my little thirty eight special.
    ——————————————————-
    may I suggest an upgrade…It’s not good to have a
    pea-shooter in a gun battle.

    ————————————-
    But a pea-shooter will work if you are a good shot! Placed in the proper mark, it can do some damage. ….Whoa, wait a minute…. Thought just came to me. That’s what we are doing in the great scheme of things here. A few hundred pea-shooters sending letters and contacting our legislators. Who knows maybe one of them will hit the mark. 😀

  82. indy500 Says:

    At least we know Ms. Kennedy is a natural born citizen, which makes her more qualified to hold any office than Mr. 0. Who holds the fake and phony office of “President Elect” and pretends and fantisizes he’s the one in charge even though Jan. 20 is more than 3 weeks away.

  83. indy500 Says:

    patriotamy Says:
    December 20, 2008 at 4:03 am
    ____________________________________
    Still time to upgrade. Office of the president elect means nothing for a few more weeks. When I give advice on 2nd Ammendment, trolls come out with a vengenance. Make sure you have what you need soon.

  84. Tenacity Says:

    Ah yes…Schlossberg. Who wants Caroline Schlossberg for a U.S. Senator? What has she accomplished? Does she have any qualifications? Who the heck is she anyway? Why does she want to be a Senator? I don’t have a clue. The question is, does she?

  85. indy500 Says:

    Tenacity Says:
    December 20, 2008 at 4:52 am:
    ______________________________
    Dude, I said the same thing about 0. Exact same thing. Good answer, however, is it okay to question her and not 0? Question for the lamestream-media??? His name is not Obama but Sorota?(however it is spelled) I can’t even spell it right. What is difference between his last name and hers. Neither one is qualified judging by facts. Neither one can provide a definate last name. I’m with you, why is it the media has focused on her and not him?

  86. Tenacity Says:

    You want a good example of a letter to send to any governmental official or media person…check this out.

    http: //naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2008/12/19/scotus-in-wong-kim-ark-and-minor-v-happersett-rightfully-punted-on-natural-born-citizen-current-court-purposely-fumbled/#comments

    NBC Says:
    December 19, 2008 at 12:33 pm

    Leo [Ed. The reader perfectly states my thoughts on this issue.]

    Look, if SCOTUS were interested in the rights of the electorate, they would castigate the SOS of NJ (in Donofrio vs. Wells) and the SOS of CT (in Cort’s Case) and every other SOS, whom them had amply time to contact since Leo’s first filing to determine what they did or did not do to vet candidates.

    It is absurd to say that SCOTUS has not yet been presented with a sufficient case to merit their hearing of it.

    The entire active electorate of the US was just defrauded of their right to participate in their state’s apportionment of electors according to candidates for the Presidency, and SCOTUS refuses to issue a stay of the Electoral College! Come on!

    Those electoral votes were apportioned according to bogus ballots, ballots made bogus by the SOS failure to do the simplest of duties incumbent in the very essence of the job to prepare an electoral ballot.

    This is so simple an injustice that every school child in American could see it!

    No, SCOTUS clearly prefers pharasaical procedures to civil rights and the US Constitution. And having lain aside their honor as a Court, those Justices who voted as a Minority for the stay, should have spoken out and decried the ignominy of their peers, because there is something more important here than good manners: the very liberty and rule of law is at stake….

    Grave injustices have been done the entire electorate of the nation, by no measure of reason or justice could the Electoral College be allowed to vote.

    Just because the Constitution requires the Senate to quality the eligibility of candidates on Jan 6th (this year Jan 8th), does not mean that it can be sanely interpreted to NOT REQUIRE anyone else to do this prior to that.

    Such an interpretation, (not to require anyone else), is absurd, irrational, and so ridiculous that no reasonable man should advance it.

    And this can be shown by the fact that even though the Congress can refuse to sit an elected congressman for the sake of irregularities in his election, yet nevertheless every official who admits an ineligible candidate on a national ballot for congress is held to vet his eligibility, and this is a long established principle.

    No, it is obvious that SCOTUS has played politics and ignored their constitutional duties.

    They deserved to be impeached, each and every one…..

    I’m using some, if not all, of this in my letters.

  87. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Congratulations Slider!!!!! Wow, I leave for a few days and look what happens–geeze…congrats!

    Hey Everyone– I sure missed you all! How’s the battle going? I haven’t had the time to even read the posts. Anything exciting going down? I did send a letter to my congress and senate folks.

  88. koyaan Says:

    Tenacity wrote:

    You want a good example of a letter to send to any governmental official or media person…check this out.

    I’m afraid I don’t see it as a good example.

    Look, if SCOTUS were interested in the rights of the electorate, they would castigate the SOS of NJ (in Donofrio vs. Wells) and the SOS of CT (in Cort’s Case) and every other SOS, whom them had amply time to contact since Leo’s first filing to determine what they did or did not do to vet candidates.

    There are no “rights of the electorate” here.

    The only “electorate” as far as the Constitution is concerned as regards the election of the President of the United States are the state appointed electors who make up the electoral college.

    In spite of all the talk about upholding the Constitution, one would be left to think that the Constitution begins and ends with “natural born citizen.”

    But there’s more to it than that.

    For example, Article II, Section 1, Clause 3, which states:

    Each state shall appoint, in such manner as the legislature thereof may direct, a number of electors, equal to the whole number of Senators and Representatives to which the state may be entitled in the Congress

    That the electors are appointed by popular vote is nothing more than a privilege.

    And then there’s the ever popular Tenth Amendment, which reads:

    The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

    The notion that any federal court should have anything to say to any state official regarding any power which the Constitution specifically and exclusively grants to the states is to turn the Constitution on its head.

    The entire active electorate of the US was just defrauded of their right to participate in their state’s apportionment of electors according to candidates for the Presidency, and SCOTUS refuses to issue a stay of the Electoral College! Come on!

    Again, they have no right. And if they have any beef about the appointing of their state’s electors, that’s a beef that needs to be taken up with their state representatives and/or their state courts. Not federal courts.

    Just because the Constitution requires the Senate to quality the eligibility of candidates on Jan 6th (this year Jan 8th), does not mean that it can be sanely interpreted to NOT REQUIRE anyone else to do this prior to that.

    First, there’s nothing in the Constitution requiring the Senate to qualify the eligibility of anyone.

    Second, once again, the appointing of electors is left exclusively to the states.

    k

  89. koyaan Says:

    Oh yeah, and partisan voters can also take their beefs to their respective political parties.

    k

  90. susiezen Says:

    I wrote my letter. I’m happy the way it turned out, I was in the zone. I love when that happens. ill try to post it today, So bear with me im a tad slow on the comp….hey give it up for blago,,,,what a performance hes a winston churchill…wannnabe! fight,fight,fight… another phoney in office representing us….so shameful!

  91. susiezen Says:

    oh, so rude….happy sat. mon all…slider, hope your feeling better, when does the babe come home…..rosettasister, your web site is doing great…lots of hits…relevant articles posted!!! nice! its working so well I think because you dont have this big ego in the way… unlike most others/if not all.

  92. jrh Says:

    This is the quietest I’ve seen this blog. I’ll liven it up with some tasteless humor.

    What do Caroline Kennedy and Monica Lewinsky have in common?

    They’ve both crawled under the President’s desk.

  93. rosettasister Says:

    Found here:

    “Letter from a reader, sample complaint to the Illinois bar against Obama”

    http://drorly.blogspot.com/2008/12/letter-from-reader-sample-complaint-to.html

    And also here in comments section:

    http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=2066

    “Downloadable sample complaint to the Illinois bar against Obama”

    http://www.4shared.com/file/76849580/92269d92/ATTORNEY_GRIEVANCE_COMPLAINT_AGAINST_BARACK_OBAMA.html

  94. rosettasister Says:

    “Motion for Subpoenes for Obama BC issued in WA state, case to be heard by the full court. BO announces vacation in HI”

    http://drorly.blogspot.com/2008/12/motion-for-subpoenes-for-obama-bc.html

    Freeper Thread:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2151801/posts

    It’s only 3 days away for discovery in Hawaii. Obama is to head for Hawaii on the same date. What is Zer0 scared of?
    Heehee…

    1 posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 10:48:45 PM by Red Steel

    To: Red Steel
    Did you see this:
    For a Ten day visit, President-elect Barack Obama is scheduled to arrive in Hawaii tomorrow for what will be his third visit to the islands this year.
    The compound he will be renting costs $8,250 per day.
    http://www.starbulletin.com/news/20081219_Obama_due_back_in_isles_for_10-day_trip.html

    8 posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 11:04:32 PM by LucyT

    To: LucyT
    Obama pushed up the Hawaiian visit date. He’s scared.

    10 posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 11:08:41 PM by Red Steel

    To: LucyT
    Head start in case he needs to make a quick get away??????

    9 posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 11:07:41 PM by hoosiermama

    To: hoosiermama
    Obama was in Hawaii about 2 weeks ago shopping around for help. He sought out influential people. He’s been writing letter(s) to Governor Linda Lingle. He’s scared out of his wits if the Washington Court grants discovery.

    11 posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 11:12:55 PM by Red Steel

    To: Prole
    Why did Obama’s people at Daily Kos release a forgery and call it his birth certificate?
    He may want to try to do it again if he can pull it off. He will need a professional job this time to do it.
    If Lingle was smart she, made certified copies of all documents relating to Obama’s origin and secured them at different locations.

    13 posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 11:16:57 PM by Red Steel

    To: Red Steel
    Red, surely with all of BO foreign connections he can find one who knows someone, who knows someone that is an expert.
    Problem may be getting an original to copy,

    15 posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 11:29:40 PM by hoosiermama

    To: hoosiermama
    Yes, Obama has millions of campaign funds left around to spend. It’s a real problem for a forger to get hold of a long BC form circa 1961 — maybe getting the same old paper is easier to print a duplicate form on it. The forger would need a doctor’s or mid-wife’s signature, et al. Forging the signature of a dead doctor or mid-wife would be the way to go. The forger would need an old typewriter and ribbon to go with it. After the forger completed a forged professional looking document. He’d have to switch it with the real one. Get someone on the inside to switch it and to get rid of any supporting documents.
    The question, is Obama hiding something that would destroy his presidency, and if that’s the case, does he have the balls to go through with it?

    17 posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 11:49:04 PM by Red Steel

  95. jrh Says:

    With regard to the post about forging the original long form — it’s probable that the archive is on microfiche and would be in reels of sequential documents recorded as they occurred. That would be a more formidable forgery task.

  96. rosettasister Says:

    jrh Says:
    December 20, 2008 at 3:48 pm

    With regard to the post about forging the original long form — it’s probable that the archive is on microfiche and would be in reels of sequential documents recorded as they occurred. That would be a more formidable forgery task.

    ———————-

    Good point, jrh!

  97. jrh Says:

    Thanks Rosetta. It looks like we’re the only ones here, so this is a good time to thank you for running a very nice blog!

  98. rosettasister Says:

    Polarik Comments at Free Republic:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2151590/posts

    To: TigersEye; Polarik; LucyT; BP2; Beckwith; Kevmo; Calpernia; Eagles6
    MOre to the point, why would the chosen affirmative action one hand his BC to factcheck and his webhost, yet he will spend hundreds of thousands to not present the document to a court of law? Authentication is not his friend for it opens him up to criminal prosecution if the document is a forgery. 😉

    97 posted on Saturday, December 20, 2008 1:10:52 AM by MHGinTN

    To: MHGinTN; TigersEye; LucyT; BP2; Beckwith; Kevmo; Calpernia; Eagles6
    It’s closer to $1 million in lawyers and legal fees having been spent by Bambi to dodge having to show his genuine, original, long-form, paper birth certificate to anyone.
    Bambi’s entire life history is built upon one, big bogus narrative, crafted by Devid Axelrod, Bill Ayers, and Saul Alinsky, with some George Soros for seasoning.
    The BC is the key because it is the one alleged “Smear” that will conclusively be proven to be true, and then, when that happens, all of the other alleged “Smears” will be freshly scrutinized, and all of the other documentation that Bambi has refused to provide, will be requested anew.
    In other words, open the vault where the BC redies, and you’ve opened the floodgates.

    112 posted on Saturday, December 20, 2008 7:40:11 AM by Polarik

    ———————–

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2150738/posts

    To: Polarik; Nonperson
    FReeper Nonperson provided this link:
    http://real-estate.nextag.com/propID_25495251/5046-S-Greenwood-Ave/Chicago/Illinois/homes-html#large_graph_div
    5046 S Greenwood Ave, Chicago, IL 60615 NexTag Estimate: $424,318 (as of 11/10/2008) [What’s this?] Appreciation Since Last Sale: -$1,225,682 (-74.28%) A huge 7 bathroom home in Chicago, Illinois. This 2 story home measures 6,199 sq ft on a 10,500 sq ft (0.24 acre) lot. Amenities include central cooling and fireplace. Nextag estimates this Cook county home’s value to be $424,318.
    Explain it to me, Polarik…I smell a scam but I’m a simple person, it’s way over my head. How could I get a mortgage for a million dollars if the house is only worth half of that?

    62 posted on Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:03:05 PM by Fred Nerks

    To: Fred Nerks
    Explain it to me, Polarik…I smell a scam but I’m a simple person, it’s way over my head. How could I get a mortgage for a million dollars if the house is only worth half of that? Easy. It’s called “Rezko’s Home Improvement.” You take part of the money that you would have spent on a higher appraised value and you buy yourself an appraiser to change the appraisal and a broker to issue the mortgage.

    131 posted on Saturday, December 20, 2008 7:52:26 AM by Polarik

  99. rosettasister Says:

    jrh Says:
    December 20, 2008 at 4:22 pm

    Thanks Rosetta. It looks like we’re the only ones here, so this is a good time to thank you for running a very nice blog!

    ——————–

    Thanks, jrh!

    That means a lot to me.

    For the most part all I have to do is put up a new post every so often.

    And approve first commenters.

    I’m enjoying this place, too!

    Rose

  100. jrh Says:

    Looks like the gang is out doing things that need doin’ today. My energy level and ambition today is pretty much summed up by this:

    I’m doing what I want to do, interrupted by things I must do, while ignoring things I should do.

  101. Tenacity Says:

    jrh,
    You are not the only ones here. I am just trying not to engage the reactive. Rose, the biggest problem that I have with any blog site is that you cannot look a coward in the eye.

  102. sisterrosetta Says:

    Pretty much sums up my entire life!

  103. jrh Says:

    “you cannot look a coward in the eye”
    ——————————————-

    Beware of what you wish for, blogavision is probably coming soon. It could be scary.

  104. sisterrosetta Says:

    Cannot look anyone in the eye

  105. sisterrosetta Says:

    But still can get a sense of people on blog
    On bberry sorry so cryptic

  106. Tenacity Says:

    If this battle for our constitution leads to where I fear it must, there will be a multitude of cockroaches seeking a dark refuge.

    Who do you know that would drive to a press conference, take a few pictures at a distance and not have the guts to approach those that were there to publicly discuss specific issues? Only a coward or someone not wanting to be exposed/identified/recognized. As one of our team stated, they are just trying to justify their presence here. Always looking for something to react to. Only able to build themselves up by pulling someone else down. What a miserable life.

  107. Tenacity Says:

    Rose,
    Thanks for the encouraging posts this morning. It seems the head of steam is building against Also Known As. Even Leo seems to be recharging. I really believe we must challenge the courage and patriotism of the senators and congressmen. Approaching purely in a diplomatic manner doesn’t seem to be cutting the mustard. I’m not suggesting we attack anyone on a personal level. I am suggesting we challenge all in any official capacity in a general way. Ask questions that challenge rather than make pointed accusations. They need to understand the seriousness of the day and the consequences of inaction.

  108. jrh Says:

    Tenacity, I believe the syndrome you are alluding to could be called Koyaanism. I’m not an advocate of assertive positioning as it only serves to alienate your listeners. Debate is a friendly discourse, otherwise it’s an argument and that usually ends nowhere.

    I had a situation on another site where a guy with an attitude just keeps hammering away with the same stuff, over and over and over. I finally did this:

    ——
    Did you see the naked guy? (I’m looking out the window)

    w.ww.ehow.com/how_2054862_escape-circular-argument.html?ref=fuel&utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=ssp&utm_campaign=yssp_art

    Phones ringing.
    ——

    That put an end to it. (hope I did the URL thing acceptably)

  109. Tenacity Says:

    jrh,
    lol…good advice. I am laughing at myself because I have used so many of those in the past. The problem is that it is impossible to manage a reactive person and prevent the disruption of the team activities on a long term basis. All of the methods you refer to require subsequent distance to avoid recurrence. Here, the only way to achieve that distance is to not participate, which is precisely the goal of the reactive…to discourage the production of the team. As an employer and group leader, I have learned that removing the reactive on a permanent basis at the earliest possible opportunity is the only viable solution.

  110. jrh Says:

    I suspect you are right. As they say, you can’t change the stripes on the tiger. I’m an employer as well and new hires aren’t new hires any more if they get infected with attituditis. I want differing points of view to make good decisions, but once the play is called, run it.

  111. Tenacity Says:

    I enjoy all healthy debate and want to be challenged with differing views. Otherwise, how will we ever grow in knowledge and effectiveness. Sharpening the saw so to speak. What a boring existence it would be if we all had the exact same perspective.

  112. jrh Says:

    Being that I’m pretty much worthless today, I thought I’d contribute some news to the Rosetta gang. The vault copy of the BC has been published:

    h.ttp://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b390/auggief/ObamaBerthCert.jpg

    (pardon me if it’s already been posted)

  113. Tenacity Says:

    Somehow I knew where you were going.

  114. jrh Says:

    Tenacity,

    Back to the serious issues, I concur that our Constitution is under frontal attack and that those who should defend it rigorously are not. This includes congressmen, senators, the SCOTUS, and what I consider spineless elements of the conservative media who should be all over this.

    Having dealt in business for many years, I have learned to approach negotiation with care to determine if I’m dealing with integrity or obfuscation. Those who dodge probing questions immediately stand out as lacking the integrity to make a win-win deal, and I move on.

    I’ve never seen a better example of obfuscation than we see now and the threads of doubt are compelling. I am irked by those that call on us doubters to show the proof when it is not we who hold it. This must enter a court of law and be unequivocally proven. If the US had a media worth a damn, the court of public opinion would already have reached a verdict.

  115. Tenacity Says:

    Here’s a decent article on the Con Con.

    http: //canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/7077

    jrh,
    What is irking me the most is how those that I expected to report on key issues have failed us. People like Hugh Hewitt have called the BC issue a non-issue and have shut down all discussion about it. Hannity and Limbaugh have totally failed to stand up on the citizenship issue. Fox News is totally in the tank. I honestly don’t know of a single media champion other than on the web. The internet radio people are, for the most part, a bunch of yahoos.

  116. Tenacity Says:

    The few times that I have listened to Mark Levin lately, he has been on other issues. As a constitutional attorney, I would expect him to be all over this. I don’t know how much following he has, but he is as gutsy as it gets about telling like it is. Perhaps we should make some contact with him. I would really like to hear his thoughts.

  117. rosettasister Says:

    Polarik, et al Comments at Free Republic:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2151801/posts

    To: Red Steel
    jrh Says:
    With regard to the post about forging the original long form — it’s probable that the archive is on microfiche and would be in reels of sequential documents recorded as they occurred. That would be a more formidable forgery task.

    45 posted on Saturday, December 20, 2008 9:14:40 AM by rosettasister

    To: rosettasister
    According to HS §338-18, one of the individuals authorized to obtain verification of Obama’s birth certificate is “a person whose right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction,” but even though this provision does not spell out what is the “court of competent jurisdiction,” I would assume that, at a minimum, the Hawaiian Supreme Court, or a Federal court could issue a court order for its release.
    I personally believe that Obama’s original Kenyan birth certificate is sitting in a sealed envelope locked away in the Vital Records vault. The statement made by Fukino and Onaka did not say that they actualy “saw” the paper birth certificate or even if they saw a microfiche of it.
    They only said that they had personally “seen and verified that Hawaii has it on record.” Now, had they actually looked at the document itself, then they would have said that they had “personally seen and verified Obama’s original Birth Certificate,” but that is not at all what they said. All they said was that they saw to it that the Health Department had it on record,” which leads me to conclude again, that they saw nothing tangible on which they could actually put their fingers.
    Now, they also could have been looking at microfiche instead of looking at a sealed envelope that had an official label on it saying, “Obama’s original birth certificate,” but, again I’m opting for the sealed envelope scenario.
    The way that they would have handled Obama’s out-of-state, late birth registration would have been for Stanley Dunham to hand over to Hawaii Obama’s Kenyan Birth Certificate, which was then deposited in an enveloped and sealed, after which they issued her a Hawaiian Certificate of Birth which has the same info as on the Kenyan birth certificate.
    There can be only one, original birth certificate, so the document that Hawaii issued to Stanley is NOT the original birth certificate on record — the Kenyan one is, however.

    47 posted on Saturday, December 20, 2008 10:31:38 AM by Polarik
    To: LucyT; Calpernia
    I don’t know if something like statute §338-17.8 was in effect in 1961, but if it was, then regardless of where Stanley gave birth to Obama, she could have said that she and OBama Sr. had been living with her mom for a year prior to Obama’s birth, even if she really wasn’t — as long as her mom vouched for her — and that would have been sufficient for Stanley to obtain an original Hawaiian birth certificate for Obama.
    In fact, if Obama had proof of residency that Stanley & Obama Sr. had been living in Hawaii for a year prior to his birth, then he, himself, could obtain an amended Certification of Live Birth.

    49 posted on Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:19:02 AM by Polarik

    To: Red Steel
    Have the actual subpoenas been issued?

    6 posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 11:03:11 PM by hoosiermama

    To: hoosiermama; Red Steel; Frantzie
    I spoke to Steve Pidgeon on the phone on Friday and he said the hearing date for the motion for discovery subpoenas will be Jun 8, the same as the hearing date to decide if they take the case. He was saying that he may request that the en banc hearing date be moved back so that the discovery motion can be heard first and they have time to issue the subpoenas.

    50 posted on Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:33:47 AM by LongIslandConservative

  118. jrh Says:

    Good article.

    On the expected patriot front, I would add Michelle Malkin, and Ed Morrissey of HotAir (a Malkin blog), Neil Boortz (a regional talker) and Ann Coulter and O’Reilly among others. Boortz even said that when he sees an email with ‘birth cert’ in the title, he hits delete. Malkin calls doubters ‘truthers’ in a very disparaging way.

    The only explanation I can come up with is that they lack the courage to take the risk. These folks are heavily career invested and have obviously put that above taking a stand on a very serious issue. They are so afraid to fail that they cover their tracks by relegating the ‘truthers’ to the lunatic fringe status.

    No one doubts that it is possible that the rumor, innuendo, and smoke emanating from the lower blogoshpere entails risk of being proven wrong. They view that risk as career ending and won’t take it. They also know they make have 4 to 8 years to stay off ‘O’s s-list. Still spineless.

    Doubt is not truth, but it is the spark that should bring truth out. Were it not for the truthers like Berg, Cort, Leo et al, NOTHING would be challenging this with even a glimmer of potential success. Were it not for Obama’s refusal to release records, none of this ruckus would exist. Why aren’t they hammering that question in his face?

    Of any with national recognition, only Hannity has beaten the anti-O drum steadily, but even he backs off from this. At most 2 minutes of mention on his radio show. Only a fleeting mention from Rush.

    This is not a Roswell, grassy-knoll lunacy. This a real substantive doubt with many points and many lines drawn between them. I even consider some issues to be smoking gun level with substantiation available through the public records, and still nothing is elevated to the level it deserves.

    Where is Patrick Henry now? Where are the patriots with the power to forestall this coup d’etat?

    My saturday rant concludes.

  119. sliderblaze Says:

    jrh Says:
    December 20, 2008 at 7:14 pm

    agreed, one thing about the truthers is there was always something to explain what the “truthers” were charging. Not to mention the admitance of the plotters

    there is no refutable reasoning for not producing a BC. There’ main arguements, he already did. That BS is not a BC. I looked over the form i have to fill out for my new borns son for his BC. Trust me, it’s a whole lot more than that POS that obama produced

  120. jrh Says:

    Rosetta,

    Polarik’s response to the microfiche thought is certainly possible but I still would expect that a state would archive original documents both in original form and on an easily retrievable medium (i.e., microfiche). If the forger replaced the original, the microfiche reel would also have to be forged. This would also involve two trips to complete the forgery, one to get them, one to replace them. It would likely take more than one perpetrator to accomplish that. Imagine how long it would take Dr. Polarik to discern that a reel of film was not 47 years old. If only there was an order to put it in the hands of an unprejudiced court with recognized forensic analysis examing the documents. It might be that Dr. Polarik could undertake that job for the court as he would no longer have to fear for his life (presumably) and could authenticate his credentials to do so (as per his representations).

  121. sliderblaze Says:

    NYT SUNDAY: BUSH TO BLAME FOR HOUSING NIGHTMARE… DEVELOPING…

    when are is the leadership gonna start fighting back,i’m tired of the reactionary stance they seem to wanna take.

  122. amy Says:

    It is of my opinion, (not that anyone actually pays attention to my posts), that as things stand now, Barack Houssein Obama will be our 44th president on Jan 20, 2009.

    At this point in time, the ONLY ones who might prevent this occurence are 2 GUTSY, BRAVE members of CONGRESS, (1 senator and 1 representative) objecting in writing to the certication of the votes on Jan 8. This would initiate an investigation.
    The next day, Jan 9, after hearing about the objection by 2 congress members, the US Supreme Court, being influenced by the act of congress members the day before, might agree to hear the case Berg vs Obama..(Of course, they may be swayed NOT to because of lack of standing determined in the lower court proceedings)
    I realy believe those two occurences are the ONLY things that may interfere with the Jan 20 proceedings.
    I dont believe any of the other lawsuits will be heard by the US Supreme Court because they all are vs the Sec Of States, whereas Bergs is Against Obama.

    Of course, I am just a nurse, not a lawyer…

  123. Tenacity Says:

    amy,
    I paid attention to your post. Seems reasonable to me. That is why a bunch of us are writing letters to as many senators and congressmen as we can to persuade them to have courage and stand up to challenge Also Known As’s eligibility. We are sending hard copies because emails just get lost and get form responses. We are urging everyone to write their own letters, but Rose posted a link for people to download a letter if they were not willing or able to write their own.

  124. jrh Says:

    Amy, being arrested by Fitzgerald could also throw some cold water on his short term plans. Maybe he and Blago could have adjoining cells. I hope Fitz does it before 1/6/9 while he’s just a President-wannabe.

  125. rosettasister Says:

    New Thread:

    https://rosettasister.wordpress.com/2008/12/20/%e2%80%9ccracks-in-earth%e2%80%99s-magnetic-field-let-in-a-huge-gust-of-solar-wind%e2%80%9d/

  126. amy Says:

    jrh.. I think the FBI arrested Blago too soon. They should have waited until he actually made a deal.. Also, I dont believe either Blago or rezko will snitch on Obama.. They expect to be pardomed by him.

  127. ddlew Says:

    Kenyan government imposes gag order on Obama family
    No media contact: ‘We are doing this because we want to ensure better flow of information’

    Posted: December 20, 2008
    6:50 pm Eastern

    © 2008 WorldNetDaily

    Gagged: Mama Sarah Obama

    The Kenyan government has barred unapproved contacts between the media and President-elect Barack Obama’s
    extended family.

    Family members will be required to receive permission from the government before making any public statements about their famous relative, according to the Nairobi Star.

    “We are doing this because we want to ensure better flow of information,” Athman Said, an under-secretary in the Ministry of Heritage, told the Obama family in Kogelo.

    “The government has decided that you should inform its officers who will be based here if you want to address the media.”

    Journalists wishing to speak with the family must first be approved by the government.

    Where’s the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S. or that he fulfills the “natural-born American” clause in the Constitution? If you still want to see it, join more than 193,000 others and sign up now!

    This is not the first attempt to block press interest in President-elect Obama’s African connections.

    Prior to the U.S. election, WND senior staff reporter Jerome R. Corsi was detained in Kenya while investigating Obama’s close ties to the nation’s prime minister
    , Raila Odinga.

    The Kenyan official who reportedly orchestrated the detention was Odinga himself, according to WND sources inside Kenya.

    http//www worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=84172

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