Don McLean, Lori Lieberman and Roberta Flack – “Killing Me Softly” (The Lyrics That Inspired the Lyrics)

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Press Release: “The Killing Me Softly Connection”

In 1973 Don McLean played a show at LA’s Troubadour Club. Singing “Empty Chairs” inspired Lori Lieberman to write the song Killing Me Softly on a napkin. “I was actually blasé about going,” says Lieberman. “I didn’t know who he was, but from the moment he walked on stage, I was spellbound. I felt as if he knew me and his songs were about my life. I felt like he sang into my soul.” Originally called killing me softly with his blues, Lori’s poem inspired songwriters Norman Gimbel & Charles Fox to write the song for her. It was released on her debut album in 1971.

Hearing it on an airline’s inflight music programme Roberta Flack upon landing investigated the song and contacted Gimbel & Fox. She offered to record it & in 1973 it became a No 1 for her. Lieberman to this day is never given credit for lyrics and her version. McLean said he had no idea the song was about him. “Someone called me and said a song had been written about me and it was No. 1, “McLean recalled. “It was an honor and a delight, and I give Lieberman the credit. My songs have always come from my personal thoughts and experiences, so it’s overwhelming when someone is moved and touched by them like Lori was.” The song was also released by The Fugees in 1997.

Words & Music by Don McLean

I feel the trembling tingle of a sleepless night
Creep through my fingers and the moon is bright
Beams of blue come flickering through my window pane
Like gypsy moths that dance around a candle flame

And I wonder if you know
That I never understood
That although you said you’d go
Until you did I never thought you would

Moonlight used to bathe the contours of your face
While chestnut hair fell all around the pillow case
And the fragrance of your flowers rest beneath my head
A sympathy bouquet left with the love that’s dead

And I wonder if you know
That I never understood
That although you said you’d go
Until you did I never thought you would

Never thought the words you said were true
Never thought you said just what you meant
Never knew how much I needed you
Never thought you’d leave, until you went

Morning comes and morning goes with no regret
And evening brings the memories I can’t forget
Empty rooms that echo as I climb the stairs
And empty clothes that drape and fall on empty chairs

And I wonder if you know
That I never understood
That although you said you’d go
Until you did I never thought you would

http://www.4shared.com/file/76148774/8ee4a787/06_-_Empty_Chairs.html

http://www.4shared.com/file/76148842/47f6164c/13_-_Killing_Me_Softly.html

http://www.4shared.com/file/76148918/db966120/03_-_Killing_Me_Softly_With_His_Song__LP_Version_.html


Don McLean – “Empty Chairs”

Killing Me Softly (original 1972) Lori Lieberman

Roberta Flack “Killing Me Softly” (1973)

Hat Tip: Lyn

245 Responses to “Don McLean, Lori Lieberman and Roberta Flack – “Killing Me Softly” (The Lyrics That Inspired the Lyrics)”

  1. Foxtrot Says:

    here

  2. Foxtrot Says:

    Repost from previous thread:

    LOL jjones! No, I spoke to Markham before the news conference!

  3. ddlew Says:

    3rd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  4. Foxtrot Says:

    Rose–my husband still has that album/cover of Don McLean’s American Pie!

  5. Foxtrot Says:

    You are actually SECOND ddlew!! LOL! I posted twice!

  6. ddlew Says:

    Ok…..I was 2nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd!!!

  7. jjones Says:

    American pie… is that an allegory for the constitution?

  8. ddlew Says:

    jjones Says:
    December 16, 2008 at 1:08 am

    American pie… is that an allegory for the constitution?

    ++++++++++++++++++++

    Nope. I think it’s in reference to ALL THE WHITE WOMEN!

  9. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    knew American pie before old McDonald had a farm….had teenage brothers and sisters…that played it over and over and over

  10. jjones Says:

    Well, I think the music may have died today 😦

  11. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    jj

    i think MSNBC just jumped the gun……. they can’t know how the electorials voted……..because it is sealed until the 8th of Jan

  12. jjones Says:

    Cindy,
    It’s just a formality…a foregone conclusion

  13. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    jj

    i figure it this way….. you can’t walk through a mine field of dog sh!t without getting something on your shoes……. he will be caught up with sooner or later……

  14. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I hope bones caught my earlier post…… sad he was one of those that really held out,… tried hard to keep faith Korir would come through..
    makes me angry that API played those games and people got hurt

  15. jjones Says:

    Cindy,
    I believe you a correct in that, I dunno, just the fact that the electoral college voted today and the case being denied just kinda gets to me. I am just a bit down right now, I’ll get over it. Gotta keep fighting, just don’t know exactly how right now.

  16. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    well there is the 8th,….. senate and house……… could hold the election…. possible…..

    there are other court cases….. many still at State level…

    many think that the SCOTUS only denied the Stay and not the actual case…. with Leo and Cort

    some think they legally can’t do anything until he is actually voted pres elect….that he has to go through all the steps first before they can intervene.

  17. jjones Says:

    Cindy,
    Yyes, I been following all that on this and other sites. I know, It’s not over, I just feel a battle was lost today. There are many more battles to come.

  18. Foxtrot Says:

    Rosetta Gang– We have got to stay strong and diligent in our cause. We know in our hearts what is right and just. Many before us have endured far too much, and paid dearly with their lives, for us to allow a usurper to come in and stomp all over the Constitution! I have grown to respect and admire all of you these past months. Even though we are not of the same Party, we are of the same Nation! We must continue to do what we can to preserve our liberty and the most powerful position in the world— the Presidency of the United States! Are you in?

  19. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    well since foxy can personally kick my butt……. lol
    I’m in

  20. jjones Says:

    Fox,
    Great words… now the hard question…. how? Letter writting didn’t work, petitions didn’t work, court cases all the way to SCOTUS didn’t work. What is there left? I’m not being a defeatist… I really want to know, what can be done next that we haven’t tried already?

  21. Tenacity Says:

    Fox,
    My sentiments exactly…I’m in.

  22. Tenacity Says:

    jj,
    Did you see Orly’s list? I believe Rose or someone posted the link in the last thread.

  23. koyaan Says:

    Foxtrot wrote:

    Rose–my husband still has that album/cover of Don McLean’s American Pie!

    Coolness! Vinyl rulz! 😉

    Does he still have a decent turntable to play it on?

    k

  24. Tenacity Says:

    http: //drorly.blogspot.com/2008/12/urgent-what-needs-to-be-done-now.html

  25. jjones Says:

    Tenacity,
    No, didn’t see it, I scrolled throught he posts real quick and nothing jumped out at me…

  26. Tenacity Says:

    Headed home…bbl

  27. koyaan Says:

    Tenacity wrote:

    http: //drorly.blogspot.com/2008/12/urgent-what-needs-to-be-done-now.html

    Anyone else notice the date of that post?

    Tuesday, January 13, 2009?

    k

  28. Foxtrot Says:

    Koyaan — yes he does. He has a Sony turntable and a collection of about 300 vinyl albums in their original covers. Some of his records, the actual vinyl, are swirled with colors, etc. Cool collection.

    As for what to do to my Rosetta Gang family, we now need to lean on our Congressmen/women before they certify the results. Also, I don’t care what Berg and the rest say, I am going to write the SCOTUS again to appeal to their patriotism–especially Roberts who would have to swear in Obama. Third, I am still optimistic that Berg’s case may still work, as may the military one coming up, and several others. Eventually, with all these cases before SCOTUS, they will eventually rule “with comment”. Once that is done, we will have a better understanding of what they want. I also realize that the first thing Obama signs into law will be challenged because people are saying he is not really eligible to be POTUS. When that happens, he would have to show proof he is able to be President. That is one way that the courts cannot reject the “standing” issue. Any law that affects anyone adversely can be challenged. And from what I have read, there will be many of those. The judicial system will get sick to death of these challenges and hopefully ask for proof. There are a million ways to accomplish this. We might have to be more patient than we want to be, but it will come. We just have to keep up the good fight and continue to do our research. We can do this, Rosetta Gang. Consider ourselves “special forces” for the Constitution. Instead of the Navy Seals, we can be the “Constitution Cadre”! WE CAN DO THIS!

  29. Foxtrot Says:

    meaning he will be challenged legally since people will claim he really has no authority because he is an illegitimate President (in regard to this line)
    —————-
    Any law that affects anyone adversely can be challenged.

  30. amy Says:

    Hey everyone..Hightail it over to Citizen Wellls blog and see what lawdogg has to say about bergs case going to be reviewed after Jan 8.. Then hightail it to aol and vote.
    /news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/12/05/hot-seat-obamas-birth-certificate/5

  31. koyaan Says:

    Foxtrot wrote:

    Koyaan — yes he does. He has a Sony turntable and a collection of about 300 vinyl albums in their original covers. Some of his records, the actual vinyl, are swirled with colors, etc. Cool collection.

    Sweet!

    …especially Roberts who would have to swear in Obama.

    Actually there’s no requirement that the Chief Justice swear in the President. It’s only tradition. Any federal judge could swear him in.

    k

  32. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    he can also remove the “uphold the constitution” part of the swear in

  33. Foxtrot Says:

    Amy–I think Lawdog works at SCOTUS! He always has the decision posted before it is made public. He has had 100% accuracy thus far.

    I am beginning to think my theory of SCOTUS waiting until AFTER the Congress meets is exactly what they are waiting on. The theory being they have no law against someone “running as a candidate” but they could intervene if someone “was certified as the President” but before they took office.

    Again, gang, more to be optimistic about!

  34. Foxtrot Says:

    Koyaan–you know darn well that is expected. If Roberts didn’t do it then eyebrows would be raised ! Come on!

  35. Foxtrot Says:

    Amy, I voted an hour ago! We need to bump up the numbers. Everyone go and vote!

  36. Lyn Says:

    koyaan Says:

    December 16, 2008 at 2:07 am
    Foxtrot wrote:

    Rose–my husband still has that album/cover of Don McLean’s American Pie!

    Coolness! Vinyl rulz!

    Does he still have a decent turntable to play it on?

    k

    we have it too and a turntable

  37. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    sometimes I think we are focus on only one part……. trapped in a box..
    not that I am seeing clearly what direction we should go…… but I do have the nagging feeling we are missing something…… something obvious

  38. koyaan Says:

    Finally received an EMail from Tony. Only six hours after the fact but… 😉

    Here’s what he wrote:

    Hi Steve!
    It was held on the edge of the state capitol.
    Channel 19 at 6 tonite will broadcast the report. They also feed fox and
    Independants.
    Did not know if you were there.
    Have a Merry Christmas!

    His EMail was sent at 6:04 and I just received it, otherwise I would have recorded the broadcast on channel 19.

    Though as I said, channel 19 is a Spanish language channel.

    Ah well. Maybe it’ll be available on their website later

    univision.com/content/channel.jhtml?chid=9570&schid=9571

    k

  39. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    the best criminals minds do things right in from of you… they don’t hide the game they just play it so the aren’t looked at too closely

  40. Lyn Says:

    did you see that api jimmy posted a childs pic?

  41. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Hi Everyone, Wow, I was posting on the last page, and thought everyone had left me!

    I’ve been reading some interesting stuff in Indonesia’s press…

    I have a post from a woman who was close friends with Anne Dunham.. Also, on the last page I poste some stuff about Obama that you might find interesting. One is that Anne and Obama sr married without her parent’s permission, then she was pregnant with Obama within three months. I don’t know that any of that makes any difference, but it migt fit in somewhere in searching for relevant information.

    Ok..here’s another..the friend of Anne’s–

    The Oct. 23 issue of TIME featured Barack Obama, the new star of the Democratic Party. 23 issue of TIME featuring Barack Obama, the new star of the Democratic Party. He embodies much that is good about the US Inclusive and seeking to stand above race, religion, class and party politics, he preaches a message of unity, speaking for almost everyone — black, white, liberal, conservative, immigrant, native-born, women and men. He embodies much that is good about the U.S. Inclusive, and seeking to stand above race, Religion, class and party politics, he preaches a message of unity, speaking for almost everyone – black, white, liberal, conservative, Immigrant, native-born , The women and men. He cultivates this image of being a politician above party ideology and is admired and respected by Democrats and Republicans alike. He cultivates this image of being a politician above party ideology and is Admired and respected by Democrats and Republicans Alike license.

    Obama’s rise to (political) prominence has been meteoric, from virtually unknown Illinois legislator to “a phenomenon that we’ve never seen before”, likened to Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King and Bill Clinton. Obama’s Rise to the (political) prominence has been meteoric, from virtually unknown Illinois legislators to “a phenomenon of engaging in that we’ve never seen before”, likened to Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King and Bill Clinton. He’s currently the sole African-American in the US Senate and only the third in the past 100 years. He’s currently the Sole African-American in the U.S. Technology and only the third in the past 100 years. He’s expected to run for the presidency in 2008, and if he wins, he would become the first black American president. He’s expected to run for the presidency in 2008, and if he wins, he would become the first black American president. Wow. Wow.

    So what is the appeal of this is this young, 45 year-old, charismatic wunderkind, a cross between pastor, professor and rock star? So what is the Appeal of this is this young, 45 year-old, published wunderkind, a cross between priests, professors and rock star? Fundamentally, Obama seems to address a long-held need among Americans for integrity, faith, authenticity, a sense of purpose, meaning and someone who sees the bigger picture — a feeling that someone out there cares and is listening to them. Fundamentally, Obama seems to address a long-held need among Americans for Integrity, faith, Authenticity, a sense of purpose, meaning and someone who sees the bigger picture – a feeling that someone out there, and CARE is listening to them.

    I read about Obama’s life and read his speeches, with a whole gamut of emotions: Fascination, wonder, admiration, but also much sadness, love and longing. I read about Obama’s life and read his Speeches, with a whole gamut of emotions: Fascination, wonder, admiration, but also much sadness, love and Long. You see, Obama’s mother, Ann Dunham, was one of my closest friends. You see, Obama’s mother, Ann Dunham, was one of my closest friends. I say “was” because she died of ovarian cancer in 1995, aged only 52. I say “was” because she died of ovarian cancer in 1995, aged only 52. As I write this column today on her birthday, Nov. As I write this column today on her birthday, Nov. 27, she would have turned 63. 27, she would have turned 63.

    Ann was an anthropologist. Ann was an anthropologist. Her doctorate research was on cottage industries in Java and she had a deep love for this country. Her doctorate research was on cottage industries in Java and she had a deep love for this country. I had been friends with her since 1981, when I was guest-editor of Prisma, a social-science journal, and had asked her to write an essay about village women in Indonesia. I had been friends with her since 1981, when I was guest-editor of Prism, a social-science journal, and had asked her to write an essay about village women in India. She ended up not writing it, but we became very close friends. She ended up not writing it, but we became very close friends. There were very few details of each other’s lives we did not know and we consulted each other on so many things. There were very few details of each other’s Lives we did not know and we consulted each other on so many things. More than five years after she died, I still had imaginary conversations with her. More than five years after she died, I had Imaginary conversations with her.

    Ann was one of the kindest, most warm-hearted, sensitive, generous people I have known. Ann was one of the kindest, most warm-hearted, sensitive, member, people I have known. She was also funny, intelligent, knowledgeable, well-read and had a sunny, engaging personality. She was also funny, intelligent, knowledgeable, well-read and had a Sunny, engaging in such. When I remember her, it’s always her big smile that appears in my mind. I remember her, it’s always her big smile that appears in my mind.

    I knew Maya, her daughter with Sutoro, Ann’s Indonesian husband, since Maya was 6, and I had met Berry (as Ann called Barack) at Ann’s South Jakarta home when he came visiting. I knew her, her daughter with Sutoro, Ann’s English husband, since she was 6, and I had met Berry (as Ann will be called) at Ann’s South Jakarta home when he came visiting. He was then a Harvard law student and even skinnier than he is now. He was then a Harvard law student and even skinnier than he is now. I remember her intense pride when she told me in 1990 that Berry had been elected president of the Harvard Law Review, the first ever African-American in that position. I remember her intense Pride when she told me in 1990 that Berry had been elected president of the Harvard Law Review, the first-ever African-American in that position.

    Berry’s father was a Kenyan politician, a Muslim (although later an atheist) who died in a car accident in 1982. Berry’s father was a Kenyan politician, a Muslim (although later an atheist), who died in a car Residents in 1982. I didn’t know Berry’s father, but Ann’s stories indicated that Berry had inherited the best of both his parents’ qualities and skills. I did not know Berry’s father, but Ann’s stories indicated that Berry had inherited the best of both his parents’ qualities and skills. Perhaps Berry got the political acumen and rhetorical skills for which he is now famous from his father, but I certainly see his mother in his compassion, warmth and concern for others, qualities that set him apart from other politicians. Perhaps Berry got the political acumen and rhetorical skills for which he is now Terms from his father, but I see Certainly his mother in his compassion, warmth, and their concern for others, qualities that set him Apart from other Politicians.

    As I sit here writing today, I wish more than ever that Ann were still alive. As I Sit here writing today, I wish more than ever that Ann were still alive. I cannot imagine her excitement and pride to see her son named as the possible next president of the United States. I can not Literature her Pride and excitement to see her son named as the possible next president of the United States. And I think she would also see Berry as a great inspiration for Indonesia, her adopted home. I think she would also see Berry as a great mOstLy for Australia, her adopted home. The dilemma Obama faces, a choice between communal-sectarian and policy-based politics is one that Indonesians also face. The dilemma Obama faces a choice between communal and sectarian-policy-based politics is also one that indonesia face.

    Obama has identified the US as a country that has divided sharply along racial and religious lines which politicians exploit for their narrow power interests. Obama has IDENTIFIED the U.S. as a country that has divided sharply along racial and religious lines which Politicians exploit power for their narrow interests. His “Call to Renewal” speech about faith and politics, delivered on June 28 this year, could have been about Indonesia. His “Call to more” speech about faith and politics, delivered on June 28 this year, could have been about Canada.

    He says, “given the increasing diversity of America’s population, the dangers of sectarianism have never been greater. Whatever we once were, we are no longer just a Christian nation; we are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers”. He said, “Increasing given the diversity of America’s population, the dangers of sectarianism have never been great. Whatever we once were, we are no longer just a Christian nation; we are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, a Hindu nation, a nation of nonbelievers. ”

    Acknowledging the need for faith in politics, Obama also exhorts people to reconcile faith with a modern, pluralistic democracy. Acknowledging the need for faith in politics, Obama also exhorts people to reconcile faith with a modern, pluralistic democracy. “Democracy demands that the religiously-motivated translate their concerns into universal, rather than religion-specific, values. It requires that their proposals be subject to argument, and amenable to reason … Politics depends on our ability to persuade each other of common aims based on a common reality. It involves the compromise, the art of what’s possible”. “Democracy demands that the religiously-motivated translate their CONCERNS into universal, rather than Religion-specific, values. It requires that their proposals be subject to arguments, and amenable to reason … Politics depends on our ability to persuade each other of common aims based on a common reality. It involves the compromise, the art of what’s possible. ”

    Solving the myriad problems facing pluralist nations such as the US and Indonesia will requires changes to government policy, but it also needs committed political will. Solving the myriad problems facing pluralist nations such as Indonesia and the U.S. will requires changes to government policy, but it also needs community political will. Obama, while running for higher office, acknowledges that government has its limitations, and that the basis for real change is within ourselves. Obama, while running for higher office, acknowledges that government has its limitations, and that the basis for real change is within ourselves.

    Even if I had no connection to Obama, I would be moved by his rhetoric and hopeful, as so many people are, that he make true his words if he is elected. Even if I had no connection to Obama, I would be moved by his rhetoric and hopeful, as are so many people, that he make true his words if he is elected. So I wish him the best of luck for the presidential race in 2008, especially if he runs with Hillary Clinton. So I wish him the best of luck for the presidential race in 2008, especially if he runs with Hillary Clinton. But if Obama fails, perhaps he might consider running for president of Indonesia? But if Obama fails, he That fact purchase running for president of Indonesia? After all, he spent four years of his life here in the country that his mother loved so much. After all, he spent four years of his life here in the country a friend that his mother so much.

    Berry, we need someone like you! Berry, we need someone like you!

  42. Bones Says:

    Yes, I saw your post Cindy – thanks!

    Lyn, yeah saw that… API has now exposed themselves fully for what they are.

    Glad to let them die the slow, twisted death of their own creation.

  43. j.b. Says:

    Patty, I could not make heads nor tails of those other “translated” posts from earlier. I am curious as to what you were able to glean from them.
    What info are you able to share with us? Thanks. 🙂

  44. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Gosh, I don’t know how that shadow posted (doubled) ilke that but I apologize.

    It made it twice as long! Sorry Rosie…sorry Gang..

  45. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    HI JB well, I’ve learned that Obama was adopted by his grandfather after returnng to the states. I think that is significant. His name was changed to Barry Dunham at that time. His mother married Obama sr without her parents permission. She was older than Sr. and she was preg. within three months of the marriage. I’ve learned that Maya (who corresponds a lot with people in Indonesia) said that they are of the Islam faith, but because Obama said he had been a Christian for 20 years and so she couldnt’ talk about their Islam faith without it causing him trouble in the elections.

    I’ve learned that he attended Occidental College in Los Angeles, Obama studied international relations and spent much of his time helping to organize the anti-apartheid protests. In his junior year, he transferred to Columbia University, “more for what (New York City) had to offer than for the education,” he said.

    After graduating, Obama landed a job writing manuals for a New York-based international trade publication. Once his college loans were paid off, he took a $ 13,000-a-year job as director for the Developing Communities Project, a Church-based social action group in Chicago.

  46. j.b. Says:

    Patty, WhAT college loans?

  47. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    So, if you want to find someone who might remember Barry at Occidental, I would suggest finding students who were involved in the anti-apartheid movement there. It would be interesting to know if those student loans were in the name of his adopted “father/grandfather Dunham” or his adopted father “Soetoro”…

  48. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    You see J.B. that’s what I’ve been trying to say! There’s a lot to be gleaned, you just have to know which questions to ask…

  49. Lyn Says:

    patty did you ever see the sight by the guy that worked at Barky’s first job in NYC with him? most of what Barky said about it was lies …I know your shocked just shocked by that.
    if you haven’t seen it I’ll look and see if it is still around the comments were great other co workers chimed in

  50. Lyn Says:

    Where did you see the GF adopted him? If thought about that but never saw it anywhere (THAT was about the time Sr went to Hawaii, I always wonderred about the timing of that trip) most of the other things I knew

  51. j.b. Says:

    I recall reading somewhere that there were no records of student loans for Barack Obama, but mmaybe they ought to lok for loans to Barry Dunham or Barry Soetoro. I, unfortunately, have NO idea how to go about THAT.

  52. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    The thing about the loans…this piece was in the 1990 LA Times–

    I’ve also learned from Barry’s young friends in Indonesia that his mother would beat him and lock him in his room. He was often called a “black monkey” both other kids, and was considered to be very naughty. Seems he liked to climb the mango trees in front of his house and throw mangoes down on other people. His father, Lolo, after Barry kept getting beat up by the native kids, bought him a pair of boxing gloves and taught Barry to box–seems though that it was a hard lesson.

    Supposedly, Anne would beat him with a rattan handle and he was then “caged” in the bathroom. His friend would sneak food in to him. Barry was afraid to go to bed at night, so someone (a male nurse?) slept with him at night.

  53. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    No Lyn I didn’t see that. What I’m getting, I’m getting through back door sites and in Indonesian newspapers, the LA Times, and the above from the friend of Anne–this woman was a published writer. I’m not giving the links because of trolls and I don’t want the info to disappear before the information has been gleaned. Sometimes you have to go beyond Google., sometimes you just have to go around Google because Google will only let you have what they want you to have!

    If someone needs the links, then email me and I’ll give them to you. Putting my super-sleuthin hat back on and going back in…

  54. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    you know I see how Laura Bush and other first ladys have decorated the WH for Christmas with style and class…….

    If the horrid back window dress is an indication of Mo’s taste, the WH may of just became the trash house.

  55. Lyn Says:

    I can’t believe it is till there analyzethis.net/blog/2005/07/09/barack-obama-embellishes-his-resume/
    Don’t get me wrong – I’m a big fan of Barack Obama, the Illinois freshman senator and hot young Democratic Party star. But after reading his autobiography, I have to say that Barack engages in some serious exaggeration when he describes a job that he held in the mid-1980s.I know because I sat down the hall from him, in the same department, and worked closely with his boss. I can’t say I was particularly close to Barack – he was reserved and distant towards all of his co-workers – but I was probably as close to him as anyone. I certainly know what he did there, and it bears only a loose resemblance to what he wrote in his book.

    Here’s Barack’s account:

    Eventually a consulting house to multinational corporations agreed to hire me as a research assistant. Like a spy behind enemy lines, I arrived every day at my mid-Manhattan office and sat at my computer terminal, checking the Reuters machine that blinked bright emerald messages from across the globe. As far as I could tell I was the only black man in the company, a source of shame for me but a source of considerable pride for the company’s secretarial pool.

    First, it wasn’t a consulting house; it was a small company that published newsletters on international business. Like most newsletter publishers, it was a bit of a sweatshop. I’m sure we all wished that we were high-priced consultants to multinational corporations. But we also enjoyed coming in at ten, wearing jeans to work, flirting with our co-workers, partying when we stayed late, and bonding over the low salaries and heavy workload
    more

  56. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    patty

    my throw away email is sharpfocusclub@yahoo.com

  57. Lyn Says:

    patty is the link in your name your site? is there a contact email there?

  58. Troy Says:

    so someone (a male nurse?) slept with him at night.
    ———————————————————–
    now we know when he developed a hankering for sausage

  59. Lyn Says:

    Troy Says:

    December 16, 2008 at 3:58 am
    so someone (a male nurse?) slept with him at night.
    ———————————————————–
    now we know when he developed a hankering for sausage

    bingo

  60. ddlew Says:

    Lan Lamphere is about to have that Utah Prophet guy on the radio. The one that said Obama would not become president due to a tragedy.

  61. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    putting cold snow down the back of your shirt and running like heck to the other side of the room

    again with the sausage…….. lol…..

    I was brought home some fresh deer sausage tonight by the hubby…… love that a burcher is one of his clients

  62. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    ouch the typos……. must of been the cold fingers by the snow

  63. ddlew Says:

    We had a burcher that lived down the street from us till he was hacked to death by the butcher.

  64. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Throw away email is my name at gmail dot com

  65. Foxtrot Says:

    That’s the Rosetta Gang I know! Glad to see we have all come out of our depressive slump and are moving forward to save the Constitution!

    I need to spend some time with my hubby tonight. Hope you all understand. He calls me “the blog queen”!

    Talk to you all tomorrow! Good night!

  66. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Night Fox

  67. Foxtrot Says:

    See you tomorrow, CONSTITUTION CADRE!

  68. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Barrack Obama Sr.: In connection with the Stanley Ann, Obama Less honest – do not want to say that he is actually beristeri.

    Beristeri means “married” in Indonesian…

  69. Tenacity Says:

    Patty,
    The piece you posted above reminds me of people in the neighborhood saying how nice the murderer was and they can’t believe he was a psychopath and killer.

  70. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Hey Ten…

    I certainly think that there is a lot that should concern the American public about this man. I think he had a very disturbed and abusive childhood from the info. I’ve been gleaning. He had a very disturbed set of parents and grandparents– the men in his life all deserted him, the women were all over-bearing..he’s been a man without a country and without roots– danged, the man doesn’t even have a real bc–or that’s what he wants us to all believe. The man is disenfranchised from his race, his religion and his country. He’s been known to use and abuse, and possibly distribute illegal drugs, and he has surrounded himself, not with men of character and integrity, but men of crime and chaos.

  71. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    On top of that, I understand from every angle that Obama was a red-diaper baby, and he grew up under the red umbrella. Something that should make us all tremble–

    funny thing is, people used to go to jail for the same stuff that his coll. have embroiled themselves in.

  72. Lyn Says:

    Patty I emailed you

  73. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Obama, Sr.. attended the University of Hawaii at Manoa as a foreign student where he met his future wife, Ann Dunham of Kansas. They separated in 1963 and later Relationship. He went to Harvard University to pursue Ph.D. then returned to Kenya. He was born in 1936 in Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya and died in a car crash in Nairobi, Kenya in 1982, leaving three wives, six sons and a daughter. All but one of his children live in Britain or the United States. (Rapport Press)

    Hmmm looks like from this, which I gleaned from a newspaper article, that Obama Sr. never got the divorce–as he was married three times and had three wives

  74. Tenacity Says:

    Fox, I know you have retired for the night, but just in case you see this…Thanks for being a good cheerleader today. I know I needed it and I’m certain others did too. We need organization and leadership. We need ways to communicate other than the public venues. We are very spread out and need a way to unite those is close proximity to one another. I hope that Schulz’s organization indeed promotes a national conference of delegates of the people to determine what to do about this constitutional crisis in the event the government persists in its failure.

  75. Lyn Says:

    peppermintpatty777 Says:

    December 16, 2008 at 5:01 am
    Obama, Sr.. attended the University of Hawaii at Manoa as a foreign student where he met his future wife, Ann Dunham of Kansas. They separated in 1963 and later Relationship. He went to Harvard University to pursue Ph.D. then returned to Kenya. He was born in 1936 in Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya and died in a car crash in Nairobi, Kenya in 1982, leaving three wives, six sons and a daughter. All but one of his children live in Britain or the United States. (Rapport Press)

    Hmmm looks like from this, which I gleaned from a newspaper article, that Obama Sr. never got the divorce–as he was married three times and had three wives

    He had at least 3 wives, the first one (Keisha?)who he had his first 2 kids with then had at least one more later, then Ann, then he married someone else at harvard and she went back to Kenya with him.

    that was not his first bad accident he was a drunk and a few years earlier lost his legs in a drunk accident

  76. thinkingmom11 Says:

    OK I just wanted to share this vid with y’all…Obama gaffes: sounds good – full of bull…holy cow this guy is full of it…

    youtube.com/watch?v=ap2Cg_FDRy4&feature=related

    now I am going to try and catch up with all these great posts… y’all are great!

  77. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    hello mom

  78. sliderblaze Says:

    busy bees today i see

  79. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Hello JAC – just spending a little time here before hitting the hay…

    I found this Lyn re: Slobama’s co-workers:

    rightvoices.com/2008/09/14/obamas-co-worker-from-back-in-the-day-barack-obama-embellishes-his-resume/

    pretty funny what those folks are thinking and saying…

  80. sliderblaze Says:

    that aol poll being taken

    Do you think there is anymerit to the controversy surrounding Barrak Obama’s citizenship

    YES 48%
    NO 46%
    not sure 6%, i think we can put the not sures into the yes/doubters category.

    over 74K voting so far….so i guess over half of those surveyed are tin foil hat wearers….lol

  81. sliderblaze Says:

    note to that post

    look at where the states are that are voting no…..

  82. j.b. Says:

    What the heck is a red diaper baby? (slider, you R not qualified 2 answer-yet, right?)

  83. Lyn Says:

    Mom I posted the guys site earlier it is http://www.analyzethis.net/blog/2005/07/09/barack-obama-embellishes-his-resume/
    did you see the year he wrote it? 2005

  84. sliderblaze Says:

    j.b. huh?

  85. j.b. Says:

    j.b. huh?

    exactly

  86. sba1872 Says:

    pajamasmedia.com/blog/what-bertelsmann-wants-from-obama/

    “What Bertelsmann Wants from Obama”

    subtitle:

    “The German publishing company that helped make Obama a rich man has a clear foreign policy agenda.”

  87. sliderblaze Says:

    ok…i have no idea to what question you were referring to, there where like 4 in there somewhere

  88. sliderblaze Says:

    worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=83760

    now that is good news indeed!!!!!!!

    JEADLINE
    “Fitzgerald renews interest in Rezko-Obama deal
    Appraiser claiming fraud says prosecutor’s office talked to him after Blago arrest”

  89. j.b. Says:

    Patty made a reference to the red diaper baby earlier, I was just trying to find out what the heck it means………and since you’re not a “baby Daddy” yet, well, it was my goofy way of saying “hi” as you just showed up as I did.
    long friggin’ day……..And it just so happens that I am working on NOT HATING OUR s’posed upcoming POTUS! okay!?!

  90. ddlew Says:

    sliderblaze Says:
    December 16, 2008 at 5:57 am

    ok…i have no idea to what question you were referring to, there where like 4 in there somewhere

    +++++++++++++++++++++

    I figured you would show up after the game. The Eagles are still “dead Men Walking” but I’m glad you got to enjoy one of their final victories this season.

    🙂

    lol!

  91. sliderblaze Says:

    DD, i guess you’ll be eating crow come two weeks from now. We got to pull outta that game in the third quarter. D looked good, the O looked good, damn, we just looked plain old good.

    J.b. i think it’s a communist thing with the red diaper baby

    did everyone take the poll yet at aol

  92. sliderblaze Says:

    and sorry about the confusion J.B. i’m still on high from the game lol

  93. sliderblaze Says:

    DD, if u are still here, i heard that if the falcons or the bucs loose one more game, and the eagles win out, they are in…..however

    wouldnt that put 3 teams from the nfc in the playoffs, is that possible?

    Giants
    Cowboys
    Eagles

  94. j.b. Says:

    Connor previously confirmed to WND that he told the FBI, months ago, when he initially was fired, that the bank and the Rezkos were engaged in “fraud, bribes or kickbacks, use whatever term you want,” to benefit the Obamas.

    Connor said his lawyer, Glenn R. Gaffney, also has been interviewed by the FBI about the Rezko-Obama deal within the past 10 days.

    I like this part (up there) from that WND page!
    Fitzgerald ain’t gonna fall for that Sh!t, right?

    slider, u r prolly right about the commie part…..no biggie.

  95. ddlew Says:

    sliderblaze Says:
    December 16, 2008 at 6:22 am

    DD, if u are still here, i heard that if the falcons or the bucs loose one more game, and the eagles win out, they are in…..however

    wouldnt that put 3 teams from the nfc in the playoffs, is that possible?

    Giants
    Cowboys
    Eagles

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    All I had a chance to hear today was that if Tampa and Atlanta BOTH lose this weekend, and Dallas wins, the Dallas – Philly game won’t be an issue. If Tampa and Atlanta lose (which they both have tough games) Dallas can sew up the wild card with a victory over Baltimore in Dallas this Sunday.

    Tampa plays San Diego in Tampa Bay
    Atlanta plays Minnesota in Minnesota

    That tie aint helping your Eagles out. It IS helpful from the stand point that it wasn’t a loss, but that 1/2 game is killing them in the head-head VS Dallas.

  96. sliderblaze Says:

    thats why the supena was issued in October for the mutual bank to produce the records, with the arrest of blago and the potential treasure trove of info he can produce as well. Good things can happen

    what do u mean fall for? fall for what?

  97. sliderblaze Says:

    Except for when dallas looses 😉

    I just need one team to loose.

  98. j.b. Says:

    Kinda misspke there-what I meant was, “Fitz will not put up with that sh!t”, or fall for Obamas Bullsh!t for that matter.

  99. sliderblaze Says:

    J.B. i agree, just the meeting along speaks volumes….

  100. ddlew Says:

    sliderblaze Says:
    December 16, 2008 at 6:35 am

    Except for when dallas looses 😉

    I just need one team to loose.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Could happen….maybe…..Oh wait…..I just heard that DURING tonight’s Eagles game, Dallas sacked Eli Manning two more times!

    Dallas’ “D” is peaking at just the right moment and we all know that defense wins championships!

    I would wish you luck but man………..I just can’t do it. 😉

  101. sliderblaze Says:

    its gonna be a balls to the wall, typical nfc grudge match. only thing philly is lacking right now is the redzone efficency. other than that. we’re golden

    i’m still saying 17-24 eagles. the eagles front line is doing outstanding, they are finally healthy. need to ware under control, i just hope they can do it without double teaming him. Best be sure that Johnson will be dialing up the blitz…all game long, last game, he slacked on it big time, but everytime the eagles did blitz, the screen pass was jacked up, i’m sure dallas will be working on that as well

  102. sliderblaze Says:

    how about that aol survey,

    take it yet? i’m pushing the crap outta that poll….everywhere i go…. you can lump the not sure’s in with the yes’s cus, not sure means there is doubt.

  103. j.b. Says:

    …I took the poll…….

  104. j.b. Says:

    er, I voted I mean……

  105. indy500 Says:

    I was thinking about this at work last night. I may have the timeline off but I think it’s close. In Chicago, a sit-in (trespass) at a window factory has been going on for awhile. It gets a bunch of press. 0 weighs in and supports the sit-in (trespass). Next day or shortly after Blago shows up at the factory doing a flawless Fonzi imitation for the media, right down to the hair and leather jacket. The cameras show him doing his best male cheerleader at homecoming impersonation for the sit-inners (trespassers). The media loved it. He even threatened Bank of America if they didn’t give into the sit-in (trespass), and the media had an organism. Next day he was hit with a Fed. complaint. Fonzi went from the apple of his masters eye to a pimple on his hindend. I might be wrong but I think he was just doing his part to earn his keep. Seems to me like the Feds. peed on the parade. After all, this is how it’s done in Chicago.

  106. indy500 Says:

    peppermintpatty777 Says:
    December 16, 2008 at 5:01 am:

    …Hmmm looks like from this, which I gleaned from a newspaper article, that Obama Sr. never got the divorce–as he was married three times and had three wives.
    _____________________________________

    Yikes! No wonder he was a hard drinker or maybe because he was a hard drinker. In this one thread I’ve seen more information on 0’s past than I’ve seen in the media since he became a US Senator, which seems to about the time he showed up on God’s earth. Or should I say His earth.

  107. indy500 Says:

    Seems like it’s getting pretty crowded under that red line bus route out of Chicago. I think they’re gonna have to roll another rig soon outta the staion ’cause Fritz told 0 to wait awhile before releasing the results of his bogus investigation.

  108. indy500 Says:

    One more thing and I’m outta here.

    I’m sure most saw Leo’s latest blog entry. In my opinion he’s demonstarting the absurd by being absurd. A quote from Limbaugh back when I use to listened to him. After all, Leo was just trying to uphold the Constitution and had the aluminum foil placed over his every move by the media, which ensured the uneducated masses would belly up to the trouth and eat whatever the lamestream media fed them. They put him in the their microwave with their phony foil and caused sparks and malfunction just like they knew it would.

  109. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I don’t know if anyone or everyone has signed the petition to request a pardon of Ramos and Compean, but if you haven’t, would you please?

    worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=83767

    It is outrageous that these two men are in jail when the slightly injured drug trafficer is out free and actually was allowed testified against them. The court took the word of a drug trafficker over the Border Patrol Agents (who arguably have the wildest, most dangerous job in America!) Thanks.

  110. Foxtrot Says:

    Good Morning everyone!

    Just a quick photo link of “Barry” to start our day! (Just use the h t t p: / / in front—not w w w )

    I would be curious to find out if anyone has spoken to this “Choom Gang” or “Ray” about Obama. Interesting that he also also thanks “Gramps” and not “Grandma” in his yearbook page! Worth a visit.

  111. Foxtrot Says:

    Ooops–forgot the link!

    politicalhumor.about.com/od/election2008/ig/Election-Funny-Pictures/Obama-Yearbook-Photo.htm

  112. hockeyfan530 Says:

    just read an article that called fatcheck.org CONSERVATIVE. Of course the Hawaiin official arguement was use to prove bambam was born in Hawaii. How can these people call themselves reporters? LOL

    Nothing new in the article so no post. Just liked the CONSERVATIVE part

    Regarding Bob Leach’s hysterical Dec. 12 letter claiming the country is in terrible danger because Barack Obama’s birth has been questioned by conspiracy theorists, I submit the following from the conservative Annenberg-funded FactCheck.org:

  113. sliderblaze Says:

    “Chicago school chief picked for Obama Cabinet”

    is this the same guy who’s in charge of the FAILED schools in chicago,

    yet another brilliant pick O

  114. hockeyfan530 Says:

    i was listening to a conservative morning talk show to get traffic report and they were saying that Obama is probably clean in the blago thing. I seriously doubt that. His people, and Obama, at the very least knew what was going on. This sucks. Where are we supposed to get our info from? Good heavens. The internet is the only source of true info. Problem is there are always conflicting reports…so what to believe. When it comes to Obama i just assume that if it’s positive towards bambam it’s probably a false report!

  115. sliderblaze Says:

    A former INS official who attended meetings with Rahm Emanuel when Emanuel was a White House aide says the hard-charging Democrat relaxed rules to naturalize even criminal immigrants
    and secure their votes for President Clinton ahead of the 1996 presidential election.

    President-elect Barack Obama, who has chosen Emanuel to run White House operations as his chief of staff, has promised to sign legislation that loosens immigration and puts even illegal aliens on a fast track to citizenship.

    Emanuel coordinated with Hispanic community organizers in Chicago to rubberstamp immigrants for citizenship, the INS official said in an exclusive interview with WND.

    Cant wait for this fight……

  116. hockeyfan530 Says:

    slider, i see you are an eagles fan…HOW ABOUT THEM RAMS!? LOL

    Personally, I’ve hated the Rams since they built their INDOOR football field here. I hate indoor football.

  117. sliderblaze Says:

    lol, rams…..some year they’ll be good again…

  118. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Fox …re: high school photo – I believe Tut was what he called his grandma… I wonder what the Choom gang is…

    Also, I read some of Berg’s filings and it seems along the way his verbage changed for “if Obama was born in Kenya” to “he WAS indeed born in Kenya.” Don’t know if maybe the change in apparent confidence level was due to new information or what. Also, the Linda Starr post you put up yesterday was interesting how she alluded to the corruption in Kenya and how valuable American money was there….hmmmmm

    Do you think he will hold of until after Jan. 9 to release any new information? I don’t think he would be able to introduce new evidence to the Supreme Court…I think he should just dump all he’s got out into the public arena. Problem is getting an audience to pay attention to anyone who has anything negative to say about the Chosen One…

  119. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I don’t know if anyone has posted this yet but here is the link to the Washington State case requesting a subpoena for BO’s birth cert and other supporting docs in Hawaii…

    decalogosintl.org/documents/motion_to_expedite_discovery.pdf

  120. hockeyfan530 Says:

    i just wish there were something that could be put out there that CANNOT be ignored or spun. I still think school records showing bambam as a foreign student would be the best. A verified Kenyan BC would be good too but you know they would spin this to say since bambam’s mom was a US citizen bambam would be too. It’s not true but either is factcheck.org and they have no problems using that as fact

  121. Foxtrot Says:

    Mom said: Do you think he will hold of until after Jan. 9 to release any new information? I don’t think he would be able to introduce new evidence to the Supreme Court…I think he should just dump all he’s got out into the public arena. Problem is getting an audience to pay attention to anyone who has anything negative to say about the Chosen One
    ———————————-

    That is exactly why Berg will not release any of his “hard evidence” in the public arena. Not only would it give Obama time to somehow deny/debunk it, but the press wouldn’t cover it anyway. They don’t want anythign to taint their case! I don’t blame them. If they have what they say they have, it will be a blockbuster! However, I do hope if they are rejected (God forbid) that they do put it all out there for us all to see.

    I still have a feeling that SCOTUS is waiting on January 9th for a reason! Call me an optimist, but could it really be coincidence???

  122. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Fox, I think the delay until Jan 9 could have some specific reasoning to it. Why would they not push is through like they did Cort’s case – or maybe it is just the next Friday that isn’t right after a holiday…it could be something but then it could be nothing. His case has been sitting up there with them for a while now hasn’t it? Am I remembering that his was there before Leo’s and Cort’s wasn’t it?

  123. thinkingmom11 Says:

    that last sentence should read “Am I remembering this correctly: Berg’s case what there before Leo’s and Cort’s, wasn’t it?”

  124. thinkingmom11 Says:

    except for the what – geeesh – not enough coffee. I gotta go get my kids up…brb

  125. Foxtrot Says:

    Mom- yes, this is the case they have been sitting on the longest. That also makes me believe something else is up! They could have just denied it a long time ago! I have a good feeling about Berg’s case. Also, remember, he has added to his case as new information has come up. This has served to strengthen his case!

  126. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Thank you Fox – that they have had it the longest is indeed very interesting…a little hope for me today!! YAY! So, yes, maybe there is more to the Jan. 9 scheduling beyond just avoiding the holidays… 🙂

  127. ddlew2 Says:

    ThinkingMom,

    The CHOOM GANG was the group of kids he smoked pot with. In Hawaii they called it “chooming.”

  128. thinkingmom11 Says:

    ddlew – that is what I was thinking – but I am *very* innocent when it comes to drugs and drug jargon for the most part. Ummmmm – how do you know this, ddlew 😉 hee hee

  129. ddlew2 Says:

    ThinkingMom,

    The CHOOM GANG is the group of kids he smoked pot with. In Hawaii the called it “chooming.”

  130. Foxtrot Says:

    Lets start checking out some of these people from Harvard.
    ———-

    As Barack Obama puts together his administration, more than 20 Harvard Law School classmates dot the ranks of his transition team — solidifying the Crimson connection as his most enduring, yet least-known, personal network.

    Eyeing the presidency as a freshman senator, Obama turned to his classmates first for their high-level contacts, and then to help raise campaign cash. Now, they’re putting their day jobs on the backburner to help their friend build a government.

    “If you think about the progression of the president-elect’s national career, initially he didn’t have a national network of people who he could call on,” said Cassandra Butts, general counsel for the transition. “The Harvard group was helpful on that front — helping him make introductions on policy, political and financial fronts.”

    Besides Butts, other top Harvard grads around Obama include Chris Lu, who will serve as Obama’s liaison with Cabinet departments; Tom Perrelli, who works on the Justice Department transition team; and Julius Genachowski and Michael Froman, who sit on the 12-member Transition Advisory Board. (from Politico.com on Dec. 5th, 2008)

  131. Foxtrot Says:

    ddlew–How DO you know so much about “choom”? Never mind, I don’t want to know. Thanks for the info though. I cant’ believe he would have been so braizen as to put that in his yearbook!

  132. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Fox – don’t goole Choom – there is more than one meaning and you are FAR too innocent and pure for the “other” definition!! 😉 Either way – he was pretty brazen! bet he wasn’t thinking about being president when he wrote THAT! But it doesn’t seem to matter to too many people..

  133. ddlew2 Says:

    TM,

    I read it somewhere with a picture Barry took that showed a bottle of beer and some rolling papers.

    Not that I haven’t partaken of my fair share of pot smkoing (many years ago) but we never called it chooming. 🙂

  134. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Thanks ddlew – sadly, nothing surprises me about this guy.

  135. Foxtrot Says:

    ddlew–it is the same photo I posted as a link above from his high school yearbook! It actually shows what looks like to be a bottle of Heineken beer. I am told, in the clearer version, you can see the “paper” to be rolled. I personally cannot see it with the lack of clarity of the photo. Go to the link! Just use the h t t p: / / in front—not w w w )

    politicalhumor.about.com/od/election2008/ig/Election-Funny-Pictures/Obama-Yearbook-Photo.htm

  136. ddlew2 Says:

    Hey Fox,

    And we (meaning Conservatives) thought slick Willy was made of teflon!

  137. sliderblaze Says:

    chooming = chiefn, blazing that bean, smokin that blunt, partaking in the festivities/rapture, hot boxn, scoobie snack….lol

  138. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I used to think that American Presidents represented the best and the brightest. I used to think that our President was someone who represented the best in all of us. I guess that says more about my naivete’ than anything else. How did a man like this rise to such prominence? Most people wouldn’t have given him a second thought except for the marketing expertise around him and his speaking abitlity (when there is a teleprompter). He said the DUMBEST thing (that didn’t sound very smart even!) the other day when he annouced his HUD guy:

    “Chris comes in unencumbered by outdated ideology and old ideas.”

    WTF – this guy is supposed to be so brilliant – anyone ever explain what REDUNDANT means or even define it to him??? (jk with all the repetition and saying things twice)

  139. sliderblaze Says:

    translation,
    “chris comes in enencumbered by old ideas and old ideas….lol

  140. Foxtrot Says:

    Slider — LOL! Why did I know that you were going to come on and have more info on the subject of “chooming”?!?!? LOL!

  141. sliderblaze Says:

    Hey, like i said, all my friends are liberal, echm, i pick up some bad habits from them….haha

  142. Foxtrot Says:

    ddlew2 Says:

    December 16, 2008 at 3:51 pm
    Hey Fox,

    And we (meaning Conservatives) thought slick Willy was made of teflon!
    —————————–

    No one has ANYTHING on Obama!!!! His ‘teflon’ is of the newest technology and virtually nothing sticks to him!

    Wait . . . wait . . . I am reading the fine print on the packaging. It says, “Guaranteed to be impervious to anything, except a Berg lawsuit.” Oh . . . whew . . thank goodness!

  143. rosettasister Says:

    Good morning, America! How are you?!

    Sorry if all of these links already posted.

    The Right Side of Life is one of my regular stops now on the information highway.

    “Broe v. Reed: Motion for Expedited Discovery, Subpoenas”

    http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=1948

    December 16th, 2008

    Yesterday, DecaLogosIntl.org reported

    http://decalogosintl.org/?p=81

    that James Broe, one of 13 Plaintiffs in Broe v. Reed, has filed a motion for expedited discovery and authority to issue subpoenas in Washington State Supreme Court:

    Associated PDF documentation:

    • MOTION FOR EXPEDITED DISCOVERY AND FOR AUTHORITY TO ISSUE SUBPOENAS

    http://decalogosintl.org/documents/motion_to_expedite_discovery.pdf

    -Phil

  144. sliderblaze Says:

    [3 Senators that were constitutionally disqualified due to age WERE admitted to the Senate] referring to clintons seat

    drudge

    i see a democratic pattern here on the constitutional issues developing…

  145. Foxtrot Says:

    Yeahhhhhhhhhhh, riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight Slider! LOL!

  146. sliderblaze Says:

    hey, i truly live up to my native american roots….

    i forgot one…… lets consult the smoke….lol my personal fav.

  147. sba1872 Says:

    urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=choom%20gang

    xmlgrrl.com/blog/archives/2007/01/16/barry-obama-and-the-gang/

  148. sliderblaze Says:

    i think def. number 3 is obama’s…lmao

  149. sliderblaze Says:

    just started snowing and sleetn

  150. hockeyfan530 Says:

    this is guaranteed to annoy you. The comments about letters and email the electors received calling us uninformed, sour grapes, unable to accept the first black president ect.

    courier-journal.com/article/20081216/NEWS0203/812160439

    They think we just can’t except that Obama received more votes and won the election. Oh, I know bambam got the majority of the votes, but
    in the immortal words of Eminem:

    “Will the real bambam please stand up, please stand up”

  151. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    morning everyone

  152. rosettasister Says:

    Polarik Comments at Free Republic:

    To: Calpernia
    GOOGLE pulled my alternate blog site, on their BLOGGER, but I put it back up today:

    http://bogusbirthcertificate.blogspot.com/

    Let’s see for how long it stays up.
    Meanwhile, my Townhall blog was listed 2nd on their Top Ten blog list. I haven’t bothered to check it for the previous weeks. It could have been #1 for all I know.

    46 posted on Monday, December 15, 2008 11:07:32 AM by Polarik

    To: lewisglad
    The votes of the Electoral College have to be officially counted and certified by Congress on Jan 8, so Obama is still not legally the President, or even President-elect.
    Maybe the SCOTUS have interpreted the Law to mean that a President “cannot serve” unless he is a natural-born citizen.

    74 posted on Monday, December 15, 2008 6:34:47 PM by Polarik

    To: Red Steel
    Bambi has made more trips to Hawaii than King Kamehameha!

    25 posted on Monday, December 15, 2008 10:41:23 PM by Polarik

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2148877/posts

    To: ckilmer
    Good article, EXCEPT that he never mentioned that the COLB posted online is a forgery.
    http://www.therealitycheck.org/2008/12/13/obama%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cnatural-born%e2%80%9d-problem/

    46 posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 7:53:41 AM by Polarik

    To: Dukes Travels
    My suggestion is to move the UN building to Guantanamo along with its Jew-hating members, and the truly democratic nations should form their own Union of Nations.
    http://www.northstarwriters.com/lh011.htm

    4 posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 8:25:32 AM by Polarik

  153. sliderblaze Says:

    morning JAC

  154. sliderblaze Says:

    news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/12/05/hot-seat-obamas-birth-certificate/

    anyone know if this was posted at leo’s blog yet…still holding strong at 48% yes 46% no

  155. cynkading Says:

    Hello everyone,
    Just read on Drudge .bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aaAI_KuDoB7s&refer=worldwide where Obama has not exactly given conservatives and southerners a fair shake in cabinet selection. Who would have thought it?

  156. sliderblaze Says:

    i thought that he was gonna appoint repubs to his cabinet, oh wait, i forgot, HE SAID IT, so it must not be true….. who woulda thought, anyone keeping count of the number of campaign promises he’s reniggd on…

    where’s Koyaan, i’m sure he’ll be in here calling me a racist….lol

  157. sliderblaze Says:

    well, i g2g for now, keep up the good work peoples

  158. cynkading Says:

    I dont’ remember who on here posted yesterday thaat when Obama comes on the tv that his tv automatically mutes itself. LOL He is on Fox right now addressing that he has chosenAnne Duncan for Education Secretay

  159. cynkading Says:

    sorry for typos Arne Duncan

  160. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    cynkading

    wanted to say hello and welcome

  161. cynkading Says:

    Thank you JAC

    I have been reading for many weeks and posting only occasionally. You guys really do your homework and I am so impressed with all of your committment to truth and justice. I have voted in every election except one since I was old enough to vote. I was living in Mexico during the first election of W.

  162. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    we try,….. we toss around many ideas,…. the truth is out there… we have have to figure which rock it is hidden under

  163. cynkading Says:

    Have a bad cold. Took some Nyquil. Prolly won’t last too long. My eyes will be crossing soon…Hope I did not scare anyone off. I understand everyone’s hesitation to engage with new people. I can assure you am not a troll. I am not affiliated with any party. Just feel passionately about not letting anyone person in power alter our constitution……

  164. rosettasister Says:

    Somebody stole Cindy’s idea! (Or am I always the last to know!)

    “The 12 Days Of Obama”

  165. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    we are a mixture of parties and beliefs….. we have a common goal and try to stand united. it is about country not party..

    after a few posts we usually let our guard down about trolls…
    most of us are transplants from a site that was horrid with them,….. so yeah we are a little extra sensitive about it…..

  166. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    rose,

    I picked up part of mine up from somewhere else….. nothing stolen,.

  167. cynkading Says:

    Jac if you are referring to Api. I was on that site alot mostly lurking and praying that the MO tapes were real. I was on their the night the trolls were so bad that they had to close the site. I noticed many of the posters went over to Mountain Sage’s blog. Did not really care for her site.

  168. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Most of the trolls came from Mountain sage’s blog….. They rightfully thought Korir was a fraud and took it on themselves to police his site…

    Most hoped those tapes were real, that there was something to his story.

    although there are many smart people over at Sage’s I don’t care for the “we are better than everyone else” mentality……

  169. Foxtrot Says:

    Hello cynkading and welcome to our home away from home! Thank you for the compliment. We truly try to do our homework. Also, if we don’t agree there is a respectful response (usually) and we move on. None of us pretend to be perfect, but we all share the same goal of finding the TRUTH. I think many of us would gladly back away from this if we were proven to be wrong. However, since Obama has virtually sealed every record from his past, that is never going to happen.

    We have our “characters”, “diggers”, “comedians”, and “truth seekers”—we are all different, from different backgrounds, but somehow we compliment each other and make each other want to do better at doing our research. Hope you enjoy this blog as much as the rest of us do.

  170. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I’m just the token brat 🙂

  171. sba1872 Says:

    Just poking my head in to say that I still think the Punahou Academy scholarship is key. It was at this time that he went from Barry Soetoro to Barry Obama.

  172. Foxtrot Says:

    JAC–LOL! I don’t know what I am! I guess I would be part “token Democrat”, part “smooth over ruffled feathers”, part “comedian”? What am I JAC?

  173. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Fox

    you are our “in your face investigative reporter”
    though you are also our diplomat
    🙂

  174. cynkading Says:

    LOL Jac. When or if do you think the love affair with the MSM with O will be over? They always turn on their pres. or have in the past? I have had to stifle all of my frustration about this election with my husband. I ranted and raved for weeks about this sham of election. He has been very patient with me but refuses to engage. He truly believes this is the end times and is part of God’s plan.

  175. sba1872 Says:

    justanamericancindy4 Says:
    December 16, 2008 at 5:40 pm

    Fox

    you are our “in your face investigative reporter”
    though you are also our diplomat
    🙂

    …and cheerleader!

  176. cynkading Says:

    Fox, from what I have seen on here you are definitely a force to be reckoned with….Compliment

  177. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    cynkading

    I think the msm is already getting restless, they want some juicy story to bite into……
    I don’t think it will be the citizen issue unless one of the court cases gets merrit.

    Oh they turn on him,…..it a matter of when……

  178. cynkading Says:

    I did contact my state rep. about the BC and he just posted the same standard BC from Hi’s that everyone has seen. I just wanted to puke. Because he has settled just like everyone else has regarding what info that has been put out there.

  179. Foxtrot Says:

    Thanks JAC and cykading!

    I honestly think that MSNBC will always be in the “Obama lovefest” mode! They simply cannot say anything contrary to what Obama says. I particularly like when they say, “Obama stated he had nothing to do with X” and they take that as Gospel!!!

  180. Foxtrot Says:

    Oops! Thanks to you too sba!

  181. cynkading Says:

    I mentioned I have this head cold and officially buzzing now due to the Nyquil, and I keep hearing that song “Killing me soflty with his song” going on in my head….. Do you remember this song being in Clint Eastwood’s movie “Play Misty For Me”?

  182. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    If we can throw Bo under the bus…… show him for the lier and fraud he is…..
    When we look back in hind site I think he has done this country some good….. More people are aware of the Constitution and what it truly stands for,…. some have openly shared their faith… and many are tired of the PC nonsense that is nothing but a controlling theory to keep objections at bay.
    and most have only problems with the man and not his race,…. race is a non issue…..that is a historical chance…. and i celebrate it

  183. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Anyone else think it is something to watch that Blagojavich is refusing to step down even though Obamalmighty has spoken telling him to?? Almost a little power play on ol’ Blago’s part 🙂 AND he can’t WAIT to talk to the media…hmmm wonder what he wants to talk about…

  184. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    chance=change

  185. rosettasister Says:

    Found at Country First:

    “Rethinking New Strategies Regarding Obama’s Eligibility”

    http://countryfirst.bravehost.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1293

    EXCERPTS

    The letter that I have enclosed, which I sent to the Electors, focuses on “Eligibility.” The cases that have gone before the Supreme Court and most of the local court cases have focused on “citizenship.” Eligibility is the key word because it focuses on “At Birth” and “After Birth” documents.

    Few have focused on the “After Birth” documents that could disqualify Barack Obama. I have listed them in the letter.

    Let me give you four examples. They are all criminal acts under United States Codes. You can find the details in the Open Letter to the Electors.

    1. Selective Service Registration

    2. Change of Name documents

    3. Change of Name documentation

    4. the document used to verify eligibility should be in the “public” domain. A law suit should be brought to have these documents disclosed.

    These four examples focus on the “After Birth” documents rather than the “At Birth” documents which relates to citizenship. Again, more attention should be placed on the “After Birth” factors that would disqualify Barack Obama. A two tiered strategy “At Birth” and “After Birth” documentation.

    Open Letter to the Electors – ThinkNobleThoughts.com.pdf, 212 KB

    http://api.ning.com/files/DaDM037LVYLEJ7OSrroZhNtDZiG8Fc75vRASzHlfjlIoRrXdG7KsSjp0d4xxo3oxlo9k1v7nl-ySDDaC3Cfyi1W8aI1y5ZKd/OpenLettertotheElectorsThinkNobleThoughts.com.pdf

  186. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Yes, I love the “I have investigated myself and I have decided I am innocent” aspect of the whole thing (h/t to either Fox or Pep – Fox I think) and the press buys in hook line and sinker…

  187. Foxtrot Says:

    Mom– I agree. This guy is going to sing until he can sing no more! I just hope he has all the “goods” on Obama, as we all suspect he does.

    JAC – you are right about the fact that it will take ABSOLUTE evidence of Obama’s fraud for MSNBC to come around and actually scold/report on him. That being said, I am not so sure they would react adversely to the fact that he is not a “natural born” citizen. I think they may turn a blind eye to it. However, as you said, if the public starts making a stink about it, THEN they would cover it with fervor!

  188. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    always did think the SSR should be used,…..

  189. Foxtrot Says:

    Me too, JAC. That seems to have been swept under the rug. However, I have a sneaking suspicion that Berg may have something on that–I hope so!

  190. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Fox

    MSNBC almost don’t count as News……. lol they belong on the comedy channel

  191. Foxtrot Says:

    JAC — true, very true!

  192. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I loved Mom’s comment

    “I have investigated myself and I have decided I am innocent”

    so very Bam Bam

  193. cynkading Says:

    Need to lay down.zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzEnjoyed the conversation. Nyquil has taken over my body.

  194. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    cynkading

    snooze well,….. come back when you feel better

  195. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Any of these issues would have taken off like wildfire with any other candidate so it may have to be something SPECTACULAR to get their attention. Something so esoteric as “natural born citizen” or the like is not nearly exciting enough. We need fraud, collusion, extortion, forgery, blackmail, illicit sex, hard drug use, and…oh, hang on, haven’t I read about this before somewhere…….

  196. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Ok the one thing that has bugged me this whole time

    Why hasn’t the Republican party tried to air this dirty laundry?

    Nothing makes 100% complete sense……..

  197. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Mom
    lol …… you talking about the italian sausage again? 🙂

  198. Foxtrot Says:

    justanamericancindy4 Says:

    December 16, 2008 at 6:10 pm
    I loved Mom’s comment

    “I have investigated myself and I have decided I am innocent”

    so very Bam Bam

    ————

    That was my comment from yesterday. No matter what –it is still ridiculous!

  199. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I gave you a hat tip up there Fox 🙂

  200. thinkingmom11 Says:

    OK I really gotta run – kids to educate and other such stuff…have a good one, y’all!

  201. Foxtrot Says:

    Missed it Mom! It has been one of those days!

    Rosetta–I bet we have alot more “watchers/readers” than “posters” on your site. Do you keep track of how many hits you have gotten?

  202. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    ALERT: Obama is naked!!

    The emperor has no clothes and we can see it and not afraid to say it….

    not like the others who are saying how beautiful they are….
    🙂

  203. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Ok I am officially confused……. some places say the electorial vote will be counted the 8th………….. some places say the 6th…….

    ????

  204. Foxtrot Says:

    The 6th is a Saturday, so I doubt it is that. The 8th is a Monday–probably the correct date.

  205. Foxtrot Says:

    Since Congress rarely meets on Saturday.

  206. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Jan 6th is a Tuesday 8th a Thursday

  207. Foxtrot Says:

    This is a short, but informative post from Berg’s assistant. Thought it was worth posting.
    ———————–

    written by bergs assistant, December 16, 2008

    A Petition for Writ of Cert is a form of appeal and must be done within so much time. It is an extremely expensive process and has to be procedurally correct. It is not easy and most firms take 30-60 days to prepare one. They are a lot of work, a lot! The stays in both Cort’s and Donofrio’s case were not even granted review. Their theory of law was far different than ours. Not saying ours will get granted, but we sure hope so. We also have an emergency stay before Justice Kennedy so we are waiting to see what happens with that. As for our Petition for Writ of Cert, we should be calendared for conference sometime this week.

  208. Troy Says:

    This is why we have the death penalty here in Texas….The only problem I have with it is that they use often enough.

    http//
    mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/195472.php

  209. hockeyfan530 Says:

    this is what really boils my potatoes:

    Let’s, for sake of arguement, assume for a minute that bambam really had nothing to do with the blago thing. I really do believe, at the very least, he knew about what was going on and has more to do with this than is being report (I know, shocking but hey it’s just my opinion). That does not mean bambam is above the Chicago politics. No way! Having all of his opponents eliminated. Funding from Rezko. Shady deals all over this. There is no logical way that bambam can be above this. He supported blago wholeheartedly. Bambam is just as guilty as blago. If not it this current blago situation certainly in past dealings. However, the media will dig no further. I doubt they will even dig into the current situation. I hope fitz goes beyond this issue. Beyond revisiting the Rezko deal. Bambam is so corrupt and dishonest. When will people wake up to this?

    Great….now my potatoes are boiled!

  210. thinkingmom11 Says:

    OK Foxy – the Supreme Court is to deal with Berg’s case on the 9th right? I believe the typical day for conferencing is Friday. That could be a sign pointing in the right direction

    HOWEVER….
    I don’t see on the SCOTUS docket anything on the berg cases for Jan 9th or any other date in the future….

    supremecourtus.gov/docket/docket.html

    Do we know where we heard the 9th date??

  211. Foxtrot Says:

    Hi Hockey Fan — PLUS, you can probably guess how Michelle Obama got not ONE, but TWO cushy Board appointments with hefty salaries?!?! I pray Fitz investigates “Pay for Play” relative to those positions. I think Obama may have had this “Pay for Play” with the Governor in these instances. It will be interesting to see if the investigation goes back to that! So, even if Obama is not caught in anything torrid relative to this recent Pay for Play, I hope he is with his wife’s cushy appointments.

  212. Foxtrot Says:

    Mom- we heard the January 9th date from “Lawdawg”. He is a poster on obamacrimes.com and has been correct in every posting he has had about rulings, etc relating to SCOTUS–before anything had even been posted. He is the one I think might work at SCOTUS, so he gets this inside scoop.

    Yes, I have long since believed that since it may be scheduled on a Monday that it IS good news, in a round about way, from SCOTUS. We can only pray, cross our fingers, and hope that we are correct! It seems all the ducks are lining up in a row. If SCOTUS thought Berg’s case had no merit, they would not have held onto it for so long, especially since they didn’t have trouble dismissing the others fairly quickly!

    I am very hopeful!

  213. Foxtrot Says:

    Hockey and Mom– also see the post from Berg’s assistant I put up above.

  214. Foxtrot Says:

    This is also interesting. I had no idea.
    ————————-

    written by bergs assistant, December 16, 2008

    To give you a better example of a Petitin for Writ of Cert, you have to file an original in odd form with 40 copies to the US Supreme Court. We spent thousands of dollars just in printing and having them bound.

  215. Troy Says:

    A Writ of Cet to the SCOTUS cost an attorney an average of about $30,000.00 to complete and file.

  216. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Hey everyone, Sorry to be absent today. I know that i promised some emails for some folks, with links…I haven’t forgot. Hubby is home sick–I think it’s bronchitis, but could be bit of a flu bug that he brought home from the hospital with him. I’ll be back later–can’t stay now… hello to everyone.

  217. Foxtrot Says:

    Troy– that is amazing! I had no idea the costs were so high. I just read from Berg’s assistant that just this second half of their filings, has cost $10,000 in copy/binding costs alone! Wow!

  218. Foxtrot Says:

    See ya later, Pep!

  219. Troy Says:

    Foxtrot Says:

    December 16, 2008 at 7:31 pm
    Troy– that is amazing! I had no idea the costs were so high. I just read from Berg’s assistant that just this second half of their filings, has cost $10,000 in copy/binding costs alone! Wow!
    ———————————————————-
    Yep, amazing huh?….Now you know why Leo didn’t go with the Writ approach….He was using a precedent from the 2004 Election Stay to have his filing treated as a Writ….That is what the SCOTUS did for Bush….It seems that it didn’t work this time.

  220. hockeyfan530 Says:

    this is nerve wracking, exciting, scary, frustrating and annoying all at the same time. Why? Because one man refuses to produce a bc! I’ll lend him $10…or, better yet, I can sell him one of my houses well below market value…and, well, you know the rest. I’m sure that’s the way bambam would prefer doing it LOL

  221. Troy Says:

    hockeyfan530 Says:

    December 16, 2008 at 7:36 pm
    this is nerve wracking, exciting, scary, frustrating and annoying all at the same time. Why? Because one man refuses to produce a bc! I’ll lend him $10…or, better yet, I can sell him one of my houses well below market value…and, well, you know the rest. I’m sure that’s the way bambam would prefer doing it LOL
    ————————————————————
    Lmaooo….Someone already offered a million dollar reward for the BC….You would think that Barky would produce it and cash in on the Mil.

  222. Foxtrot Says:

    Someone asked yesterday what we can do. I gave a list of things, but emphasized that there will be more to do as things come up. Here is one of them! Apparently we have a sympathizer in Congress. Remember, we only need one Senator and one Congressman to derail this. Please follow the instructions, even if you don’t live in Ohio.
    —————————————————————

    Comment by sowsear | 2008-12-16 12:27:18

    district79@ohr.state.oh.us

    Here is the project:

    Please EMAIL State Representative (OH) Fessler with your concerns on the Obama topic. It does not have to be long, however, per her request she wants to FLOOD her email box because it becomes a PUBLIC record of your concerns regarding Obama’s eligibility. We want EVERYONE to log a complaint on this topic! (with ALL of your concerns!) The main stream media will not recognize this topic unless we act!

    Please do not copy this email to THAT email! Start a brand new email please!

    Rep Fessler has become so concerned on this topic because of all of the calls and emails that she has been getting to date. Let’s make a goal of 50,000 formal complaints this week! We want this to make the news! Remember, EVERYONE should email her…

    Please be polite, yet demanding to the following email address: district79@ohr.state.oh.us

    It’s time to gain some traction! And remember, this becomes a PUBLIC RECORD

  223. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Fox – is she a state rep? and how do we address Obama now – as Sen. Obama still? Or is he Pres. Elect? Troy I KNOW you know…

  224. hockeyfan530 Says:

    email sent…..49,999 more to go!

    I addressed him as “possible” president elect Obama

  225. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I am writing mine now….looking for some info posted here from the guy who wrote the 14th amendment….Fox posted it somewhere…want to include his clarification that a NBC was to be born on American soil, to two citizens….

  226. Troy Says:

    thinkingmom11 Says:

    December 16, 2008 at 8:03 pm
    Fox – is she a state rep? and how do we address Obama now – as Sen. Obama still? Or is he Pres. Elect? Troy I KNOW you know…
    ————————————————————
    He is currently still citizen or illegal alien Obama

  227. Troy Says:

    thinkingmom11 Says:

    December 16, 2008 at 8:12 pm
    I am writing mine now….looking for some info posted here from the guy who wrote the 14th amendment….Fox posted it somewhere…want to include his clarification that a NBC was to be born on American soil, to two citizens….
    ———————————————————
    You can get that right off of Leo’s website

  228. Foxtrot Says:

    Mom- she is a State Rep but here is the back story on how a State Rep is hoping to influence the verification from Congress! I took this from another blog. For the record, (close your ears Troy) I would refer to Obama as President Elect Obama or Mr. Barack Obama.

    As for the 14th amendment author, I will have to go back to dig it out from our little archive here of threads. Let me know if you find it first.

  229. Foxtrot Says:

    Ooops, forgot the post!
    —————-

    Liberal Site Reports: Republican State Rep Wants Obama’s Birth Certificate Examined
    Submitted by dpotts on Fri, 12/12/2008 – 10:24am.

    Rep. Diana Fessler, an outgoing Republican State Rep, has decided to kick up one last fuss before the door hits her on the way out. She wants a resolution passed calling on members of the electoral college to examine Obama’sbirth certificate.

    http://www.buckeyestateblog.com/republican_state_rep_wants_obamas_birth_certificate_examined

    =========
    contact Ohio State Rep. (R) Diana Fessler email: district79@ohr.state.oh.us
    phone: (614) 466-811

  230. Foxtrot Says:

    1866 Representative John Bingham of Ohio, who is considered by many the “Father of the Fourteenth Amendment”, is quoted in Donofrio’s essay as saying the following: “[I] find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill], which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen…[6]”

  231. Foxtrot Says:

    I gotta say . . . why hasn’t the RNC taken up this cause? They have been in the shadows and we have not heard a peep out of them! What the heck! It is almost like they didn’t want a Republican to win because they knew it would be such an incredible up hill battle to get the country on track and they wanted to be able to blame the Dems! Where is the RNC’s patriotism and commitment to the Constitution?

  232. Troy Says:

    To make our case and concerns more solid, we may want to mention the AOL Poll or include a link to it.

  233. inspirational1 Says:

    how about if we all threaten if these representitives that are supposed to be representing us and preserving the constitution don’t take action and Obama is not eligible we will be moving forward with actions to remove all those involved for covering up for Obama.

    We will hold all accountable and motion to have them removed from office since they are not accurately doing their jobs.

  234. Troy Says:

    Foxtrot Says:

    December 16, 2008 at 8:26 pm
    I gotta say . . . why hasn’t the RNC taken up this cause? They have been in the shadows and we have not heard a peep out of them! What the heck! It is almost like they didn’t want a Republican to win because they knew it would be such an incredible up hill battle to get the country on track and they wanted to be able to blame the Dems! Where is the RNC’s patriotism and commitment to the Constitution?
    ————————————————————
    Or they have been threatened with the prosecution of Bush and members of his administration for wrong doings.

    Extortion semms more likely.

  235. hockeyfan530 Says:

    or the RNC figured the Dems got us into this economic mess so let them fix it with assistance from ACORN, fannie and freddie LOL

  236. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    or they stepped back…… knowing bam bam would self implode and they could be the hero’s picking up the pieces afterwords

  237. hockeyfan530 Says:

    or they are sitting back until Jan 8 and BAM! That’s when they say…hey, I object to these electoral votes…make with the bc bambam!

  238. Troy Says:

    Nah, I really think the Dems have them over a barrel.

  239. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    someone on another blog posted a concern that while in Hawaii Bo will get his full copy BC and post another forgery on his site…. we would have a losing battle if that happened…Hawaii would just confirm that he DID receive his vaulted BC….

  240. rosettasister Says:

    New Thread:

    https://rosettasister.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/thank-you-hameed-abid/

  241. Foxtrot Says:

    It only takes one person to affect change. I am a firm believer in this and have seen it over and over again in my own life and my commitment to the community and others. We have millions on our side. The truth will prevail and Obama will not last as POTUS.

  242. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I found it – sorry it took me so long to get back to the thread…It is near impossible to write a coherent letter when you have 4 kids running all over the place and everything. My letter is kind of long…I hope she will read it.

  243. another_thinking_mom Says:

    Rosettasister,
    I thank you with all my heart with your blog! It is just as I would have it if I had a blog! Since old API went down, I have been checking with your blog the last couple weeks to find the news I am interested in….

  244. rosettasister Says:

    another_thinking_mom Says:
    December 17, 2008 at 1:29 am

    Rosettasister,
    I thank you with all my heart with your blog! It is just as I would have it if I had a blog! Since old API went down, I have been checking with your blog the last couple weeks to find the news I am interested in….

    ——————-

    Welcome, ATM! And thanks for your words of encouragement!

    Perhaps I’m the only one to have benefitted from Korir’s fall from grace.

    As so many good people found their way here.

    And they can be quite funny at times, too!

    BTW, everyone has gone here now.

    New Thread:

    https://rosettasister.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/thank-you-hameed-abid/

    And I’ll repost this on new thread.

    Rosetta

  245. ddlew Says:

    I don’t know if anyone saw this or not. What a jerk. This guy AINT what he ran that he was. Of course, we all knew that.

    CHICAGOLAND: OBAMA LECTURES TRIB REPORTER: ‘DON’T WASTE YOUR QUESTION’…
    http //wwwyoutube.com/watch?v=tT9_ZIUSLhY

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