“Arizonan files brief supporting Berg petition, California’s dead elector spurs investigation”

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http://www.sonorannews.com/archives/2008/081210/FrntPgObama.html

By Linda Bentley | December 10, 2008

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On Dec. 1, Attorney Philip Berg also learned his petition for a writ of certiorari would be distributed to all nine justices and a conference would be set within ten days. Berg is appealing the lower court’s dismissal based on lack of standing.

Also docketed in Berg’s case was a motion for leave to file an amicus curiae (friends of the court) brief by Attorney Lawrence Joyce on behalf of Bill Anderson, a citizen and registered voter of Arizona, in support of Berg’s petition.

Anderson states the circumstances in Berg’s case are unique, the hour is extremely late and, as a practical matter, other cases on this matter of exceptional national importance might not come before the court in a timely manner. By allowing Berg to bring this case now, Anderson says it would prevent “nothing less than a possible national catastrophe and a constitutional crisis of unprecedented magnitude, a crisis not otherwise manageable by the ordinary operations of law.”

He points out that “military officers, sworn to defend the Constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic, must not be placed in a situation in which they cannot say with absolute certainty whether the person claiming to be the Commander-in-Chief legitimately holds office or not …”

Anderson asks, “Are such questions to be left hanging in the balance when the moment comes – God forbid – to decide whether to use America’s nuclear arsenal? In that moment, will our military leaders consider Barack Obama to be the Commander-in-Chief, or a ‘foreign enemy’ of the Constitution?”

And, the lawsuits challenging Obama’s eligibility keep on coming.

On Dec. 1, James Broe, along with 11 other plaintiffs, filed a petition against Washington Secretary of State Samual Reed, requesting votes cast for Obama be set aside.

Broe claims Obama is ineligible to run for the office of president because: 1) he did not establish his American citizenship, 2) he did not establish that he was a “natural born citizen” as required by the U.S. Constitution, and 3) he did not run under his legal name of Barry Soetoro.

Washington statute allows any registered voter to challenge a declared elected candidate’s right to assume office if the person was not eligible to hold that office at the time he was declared elected.

Then, on Dec. 3, Attorney Orly Taitz, also representing Keyes, filed a petition in California Supreme Court to bar Secretary of State Debra Bowen from certifying the Nov. 4 election until documentary proof is provided that Obama is a “natural born” citizen.

During Monday’s press conference at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., Taitz said, “The only reason that the vast majority of Americans do not know the details is because the media was aiding and abetting Obama in defrauding 300 million Americans.”

Because Bowen only required signed statements without any verification to determine candidate’s eligibility, Taitz said, “This practice represents a much lower standard than that demanded of one when requesting a California driver’s license or signing up a child for little league.”

At last count no less than 17 lawsuits have been filed across the country with new ones cropping up almost daily, indicating the questions surrounding Obama’s citizenship and eligibility are not going to go away unanswered.

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237 Responses to ““Arizonan files brief supporting Berg petition, California’s dead elector spurs investigation””

  1. ddlew Says:

    111111sssssssssssssssssssssTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!

  2. sliderblaze Says:

    damn,not first

  3. sliderblaze Says:

    politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1208/Blagojevich_questions_censored_on_Transition_site.html?showall

    uh, duh, see msnbc politico, they should just merge formats

  4. jrinNC Says:

    Has anyone ever read “The Vision” by David Wilkerson, author of “The Cross and the Switchblade”??????? Written in 1974. His very first chapter is entitled “Economic Confusion” with a sub-chapter entitled “Bankruptcies of Major Corporations.” This book was based on two visions he had back in 1973. It is like reading today’s newspapers.

  5. Troy Says:

    Can anyone recall, throughout the history of our nation, a person elected for Pres. that is so surrounded by controversy and corruption?…Anybody???….I didn’t think so….The AA community must be SO proud of their BOY!!!….The piece of feces is the worst stain on this country’s political history that has ever existed….Here’s the best part, he ain’t even freakin president yet!!!!….I can only imagine the amount of degradation he will bestowe on us during a four year term.
    BRB, I’m head to the yard to puke!!!!!

  6. ladyliberty Says:

    Troy Says:

    December 11, 2008 at 2:19 am
    Can anyone recall, throughout the history of our nation, a person elected for Pres. that is so surrounded by controversy and corruption?…Anybody???….I didn’t think so….The AA community must be SO proud of their BOY!!!….The piece of feces is the worst stain on this country’s political history that has ever existed….Here’s the best part, he ain’t even freakin president yet!!!!….I can only imagine the amount of degradation he will bestowe on us during a four year term.
    BRB, I’m head to the yard to puke!!!!!
    ______________________________________
    That’s only because WE are racists Troy. If we were more accepting, there would be no controversy.

    Man that was hard to write – LOL

  7. Troy Says:

    Well, it has been snowing here in Houston for the past 5 hours….This is freakin bizzare!!!

  8. lyn Says:

    When is Colmes leaving H&C? It is so hard to watch with his constantly defending Obama ect

  9. sliderblaze Says:

    well troy, i can foresee in the very near future, people saying, wow, i long the good ole days of bush.

  10. jrinNC Says:

    Troy I wonder if that degradation will also include our right to free speech?

    See: w.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=83156

  11. sliderblaze Says:

    lyn, Colmes has extra cushion in his knee pads

  12. Troy Says:

    Yep, we’re all a bunch of racist bastids!!!!

  13. jrinNC Says:

    Hey Troy, that is also discussed in that book I just mentioned “Drastic Weather Changes.” But hey, I wish it were snowing where I am on the coast of NC – I love snow.

  14. Foxtrot Says:

    jr–what part of the coast of NC?

  15. ladyliberty Says:

    Damn that Global Warming!!!

  16. Foxtrot Says:

    You close to Wilmington?

  17. jrinNC Says:

    I live in Pamlico County. Nearest town is New Bern. The county I live in is extremely economically challenged. We have two grocery stores, 1 drug store, a couple of gas stations, and Dollar General and Family Dollar store – NOTHING ELSE – LOL – Out in the boonies, but right on the water.

  18. Troy Says:

    I love the snow too, simply because it is so rare here…The freakin ground is completely white….It’s a trip!!!

  19. jrinNC Says:

    I live a little over an hour from Wilmington.

  20. Foxtrot Says:

    Ihave been through New Bern on my way to Kitty Hawk! At the risk of having things thrown at me on this blog, we own beach property in Carolina Beach.

  21. jrinNC Says:

    Well New Bern is a historical town – It was the colonial capital of NC – We have the palace restored. Lovely town – but not a lot of businesses. We have to travel to other areas to do serious shopping.

  22. Foxtrot Says:

    I love eating and shopping in Wilmington. The historical preservation there is amazing now.

  23. Foxtrot Says:

    My legs are going numb from sitting here this long. I think I need to take a break and walk around for a bit. I will be back later.

  24. jrinNC Says:

    Yes, I love Wilmington also – especially during azalea time – absolutely beautiful on some of the old plantations.

  25. Troy Says:

    Plantations?!!!….You Racist!!!….Lmaoooo

  26. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Hey Everybody! So, the Judge bombed on us here in NC! But, I think Ob is going to be down and out with a count of 10 soon!

    Hey Susie Zen–glad to see you here. Don’t look back at API and don’t beat yourself up. Many of us wanted to believe, and we got into the people at API. Rosie’s place here rocks.

    It’s like the bar in “Friends” —

    Al, sorry I missed you–hope all is well with you today. So, still thinking Obi got in because he was a national treasure? Al, you know the kind of people you hang out with is what you become— careful hanging out here with us free-thinkers and lovers of the US Constituion and America–

    On the Liberal stuff–Mom-Foxy, my husband is a Liberal–I’m a conservative… but we both have some things that we stand on A. Integrity B. Truth C. Values based on faith (remember he’s Jewish and I’m a Christian) D. Honoring God and family E. Ethics in work and finances F. Fidelity G. Giving — the truth is, and I’m not patting us on the back– we are opposites when it comes to our politics, our religion, our background (he’s a yankee from NY City (Brooklyn) and I’m a Carolina Girl (Grits–Girl raised in the South) and I could go on with the opposites– but again the things that are important–we are hand in hand. His being liberal in his philosophy and politics doesn’t mean that he is bad or evil or dishonest or unethical or a cheater or dishonorable or anti-God or anti-life…

  27. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Well ya’ll– You may not see me for a while. Hopefully, this will pass, but I have a serious case of pancreatitis– it’s due to a bad duct. Hubby’s been tring to get me to go to hospital all night. I’m stubbornly refusing as long as I can …it’s tough though. Say a prayer for me..if you will. On a lot of drugs tonight so if I have typos or make no sense (well, I don’t usually make much sense:) but please forgive me. It helps to have something to focus on though.

  28. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    evening,…… what been happen?

  29. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    lo mean happening

  30. Al Says:

    peppermintpatty777 Says:

    December 11, 2008 at 3:10 am
    Well ya’ll– You may not see me for a while. Hopefully, this will pass, but I have a serious case of pancreatitis– it’s due to a bad duct. Hubby’s been tring to get me to go to hospital all night. I’m stubbornly refusing as long as I can …it’s tough though. Say a prayer for me..if you will. On a lot of drugs tonight so if I have typos or make no sense (well, I don’t usually make much sense:) but please forgive me. It helps to have something to focus on though.

    *************************************************************

    Hi Susan,

    Wish you were feeling better, but trust that you’ll relent and let your husband at least get your over to the hospital to be on the safe side. Am turning in early tonight in anticipation of extra workload tomorrow. Hope you’re feeling better and back in the saddle real soon. Take care of yourself.

    PS: Nice hat btw, peace.

  31. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    You know, if I was Blago I would tell BO to suck my big toe! BO isn’t Senator of Ill. and he shonuf aint PE, Right Troy! He’s just a citizen, like us… BO aint’ got NO STANDING to ask Blago to step down…

    Ain’t nobody got NO STANDING! BO certainly ain’t got NO STANDING–more importantly, he ain’t got no Seat in the White House. ‘chelle baby, put that tape measure down…cause you ain’t ordering drapes for the White House!

  32. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Pease Al… nope.. I psent too many years in the hospital– they get me in they don’t want to let me out. I’d be there til after Chrstmas. Iv’e been in the best hopsitals– Duke, Johns Hopkins just to name a couple…and the truth is, it’s like being water boarded the stuff they can do to you in the name of healing…

    Nope…not going …just going to keep my prayers said and my pain meds coming… thank goondess for morphine and lots of it.

    Al, you have a good night.

  33. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Pep – please take care of yourself….step away from the pain medication (hee hee)…since you aren’t feeling well, I will refrain from defending myself too vigorosly regarding my l”iberal” comment – it was a JOKE…about BLOGO… not a personal insult against anyone here…can I catch a break.

  34. earthangle3 Says:

    HI Iam new I think tnissite to very inesting.

  35. earthangle3 Says:

    sorry for the running my word together.

  36. lyn Says:

    Patty, Please go, My Uncle put off going for Pancreatitis and it caused alot more problems than if he went right away (Of course this is coming from someone that has had a prescript for a liver MRI on my fridge for months now so I understand the not wanting to go)

  37. ddlew Says:

    thinkingmom11 Says:
    December 11, 2008 at 3:30 am

    Pep – please take care of yourself….step away from the pain medication (hee hee)…since you aren’t feeling well, I will refrain from defending myself too vigorosly regarding my l”iberal” comment – it was a JOKE…about BLOGO… not a personal insult against anyone here…can I catch a break.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    No break AND NO SOUP for YOU!!

  38. thinkingmom11 Says:

    i love all the seinfeld references here today!

  39. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Mom, we know you would never do anything to insult anyone here! You are loved and accepted…you’ve got your break and can eat it too! I’ll even send you “the best fudge in the world” –hubby’s words…bout my fudge I made yesterday!

    Lyn, I’ve fought this since 1994. The drs told me I would never leave the hospital. They sent me home to make my final arrangments. One year ago the drs told me they want to take my pancreas out. I graciously (yeah right) declined. There’s a 5% survival rate for 5 years. I prefer the odds my Heavenly Abba gives me– abundant life! Two times they’ve told me I have liver cancer…once at Duke and once at Johns’ Hopkins… Nope…I don’t… Last November they told me they were pretty certain I have pancreatic cancer but the blood test came back negative for PC…

    I live on my Abba in Heaven’s time… makes life more interesting.. til I get another bad attack like tonight.

    I don’t drink (number 1 cause of pancreatitis)– that would really kill me! But, I have a bad duct..so I get extreme liver complications and pancreatitis at the same time.

    Lyn, Go get that liver MRI…I’ve had many of those and they are not bad. Much better than having to have an ERCP!
    This too shall pass…

  40. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Mom, we know you would never do anything to insult anyone here! You are loved and accepted…you’ve got your break and can eat it too! I’ll even send you “the best fudge in the world” –hubby’s words…bout my fudge I made yesterday!

    Lyn, I’ve fought this since 1994. The drs told me I would never leave the hospital. They sent me home to make my final arrangments. One year ago the drs told me they want to take my pancreas out. I graciously (yeah right) declined. There’s a 5% survival rate for 5 years. I prefer the odds my Heavenly Abba gives me– abundant life! Two times they’ve told me I have liver cancer…once at Duke and once at Johns’ Hopkins… Nope…I don’t… Last November they told me they were pretty certain I have pancreatic cancer but the blood test came back negative for PC…

    I live on my Abba in Heaven’s time… makes life more interesting.. til I get another bad attack like tonight.

    I don’t drink (number 1 cause of pancreatitis)– that would really kill me! But, I have a bad duct..so I get extreme liver complications and pancreatitis at the same time.

    Lyn, Go get that liver MRI…I’ve had many of those and they are not bad. Much better than having to have an ERCP!
    This too shall pass…

  41. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Oops, I think I’m seeing double now…Don’t know how I posted that twice.. I’m sorry everyone.

    Sorry Rosie Posey…

  42. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Ahh, the soup Nazi strikes again!

    No morphine and no Oxycontin for you!

  43. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Anyone here like to watch House? It was a really good episode last night!

  44. lyn Says:

    Lyn, Go get that liver MRI…I’ve had many of those and they are not bad. Much better than having to have an ERCP!
    This too shall pass…

    Thanks, I had one about 3 years ago and they ended up taking my GB out…surprise, but my numbers went back up so MRI then maybe explore lap, THAT was in May

  45. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    So, nobody is talking to me? Is my hat on backwards or something?

  46. ddlew Says:

    I had a liver sonogram……they didn’t find anything yet my liver still hurts

  47. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Dick Morris is busing loose on this 2002 stuff I sent Fox news yesterday! Yippeee..on O’Reilly…talking about Obama meeting weekly with Blag to get Blag elected…calling the man a liar…but O’Reilly says the tape is helping Obama cause he’s nt implicated in the tape…but what about other tapes!

  48. ddlew Says:

    Man they have 300 hours of tape on this guy. SOOOO many heads are about to roll

  49. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Ddlew did they do any lab work? I would want to have Liver enzyme panel done.

  50. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    O’Reily says Obama is not indicated on the Blagobitch tapes, but I’m sure he hasn’t heard all 300 hours, bet yor bottom dollar.

  51. lyn Says:

    Patty, I’m talking , just went to get my paperwork because you mentioned blood test for pancreatic cancer. is that a CA 19-9? because i have paperwork to get that too lol (Well there are lots marked but that’s one, there is some for autoimmune diseases too) I was wrong about the date tho it was March 13th see it clouldn’t be anything real bad…I’m still here 🙂

    I’m glad you are so strong, I believe that helps. My 20 yO son has had alot of medical issues but is a real fighter like you.

  52. ddlew Says:

    They sent me to the blood sucker and ran all kinds of tests. Of course I had to do the “poopsmear” (as I called it) too.

    Nothing….but dangit, my liver hurts and they don’t know what else to do.

  53. hockeyfan530 Says:

    i haven’t watched FOX, or any other news, or talk radio since the election. Makes me too angry. I get better info here so screw all of the msm and most of the conservative talk shows.

  54. ddlew Says:

    hockeyfan530 Says:
    December 11, 2008 at 4:13 am

    i haven’t watched FOX, or any other news, or talk radio since the election. Makes me too angry. I get better info here so screw all of the msm and most of the conservative talk shows.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I here ya, but isn’t that like “if a tree falls in the forest and no one is around….”?

  55. j.b. Says:

    53rd! Yessssssssssssssssssss!

  56. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Patty

    3 years ago days before my birthday…I was on a prescription medication, well i read the drug interactions so when i had a sinus headache from he77 i bought something over the counter….
    the two didn’t mix and after my second dose my hubby called an ambulance when i wouldn’t wake up….. I had a fluke severe drug interaction and my liver was shutting down. My heart stopped 3 times in the ER….. Even when i was stable they didn’t know for 24 hours if i would make it…. As you see I made it and no know permanent damage suffered.

  57. hockeyfan530 Says:

    OReilly really bugged me throughout the election. He goes out of his way to be fair and balanced and ends up being useless as far as i’m concerned. His interview with bambam just infuriated me. When OReilly said to bambam “come on you’ve been in the church for 20 years and you didn’t know”….bambam simply said what can i say? If i were OReilly i would have said “you can say you are lying or you are the dumbest man alive”….But nope, OReilly let him off. SO i turned it off and didn’t watch again. Although i did like Dennis Miller’s segment

  58. j.b. Says:

    When is Colmes leaving H&C? It is so hard to watch with his constantly defending Obama ect

    Since you asked twice, (and as far as I
    have read, er, 55 or so comments, no one has answered you yet) I will tell you January.
    🙂

  59. ddlew Says:

    justanamericancindy4 Says:
    December 11, 2008 at 4:18 am

    As you see I made it and no know permanent damage suffered.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I’ve read your posts……..Are you sure about that? 😉

  60. lyn Says:

    I went from always watching MSNBC (I know I’m embarrased to admit it) to CNN, to Fox then I couldn’t stand Colmes or Oreilly defending Barky, so switched to QVC, HSN and Bravo.
    I try and watch but end up annoyed after 15 min or less and back to the internet for my news.

  61. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Lyn, yes, that’s the test. I have to have one every 6 months now. But, Lyn, you should go ahead and get it done. People have a misconception about pancreatic cancer. They think it is a very fast cancer. It’s not. it’s acutally a very slow cancer, but is so hard to diagnose, that usually by the time it is confirmed or diagnosed, it’s too late. Get the test!

    Dd..where does it hurt? Are you sure it’s your liver and not your gall bladder? Have you had amylase and lipase tests? Have you had a CT Scan of your kidneys.

    When I first got pancreatitis, I was a student at Duke and thought I had a kidney infection due to the pain in my upper right back on the side…typical kidney pain… I went to the ER, they put me on a stretcher and told me I coudn’t stand up. I had so many problems! For a while, I had a dr. sitting outside my door around the clock. They expected me to die and several times called my family in for the last farewell and all that… 14 years, almost 15 years ago! I travel all over the world, east and west Africa, mid east, India and all over the states–usually alone…and don’t take life for granted!

  62. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    ddlew

    lol…..wish I had a large trout to smack you with …… 🙂

  63. j.b. Says:

    Dennis Miller is The Man. O’Riley pisses me off, too. I do still watch him every now and then. Tonight he was all about, “Obama had nothing to do with this”! O’ Really?
    Um, Bill, you have heard exactly 3 minutes of over 300 hours of taped conversations and you say what?
    Putz. Miller rocked the house, as usual.

  64. hockeyfan530 Says:

    all of colmes spokespeople on FOX hacked me off. They always said the same thing about his associations. Let’s concentrate on the issues. Well, morons, the biggest issue in this campaign, in my opinion, was who is bambam…really, who is he? He lied so many times about his associations what difference does it make what he says about any of the issues? If he lies about the so called little things what makes you think he’s telling the truth about the important things? For crying out loud!

  65. lyn Says:

    JB thanks.
    Since I started watching them this year, when even I would email with thing about Obama, I would send it to both of them and say as a life long 3rd gen Dem, PLEASE get Alan off your show. I hate how he talks over anyone trying to excuse the unexcusable Obama camp stuff

  66. ddlew Says:

    peppermintpatty777 Says:
    December 11, 2008 at 4:22 am

    Lyn, yes, that’s the test. I have to have one every 6 months now. But, Lyn, you should go ahead and get it done. People have a misconception about pancreatic cancer. They think it is a very fast cancer. It’s not. it’s acutally a very slow cancer, but is so hard to diagnose, that usually by the time it is confirmed or diagnosed, it’s too late. Get the test!

    Dd..where does it hurt? Are you sure it’s your liver and not your gall bladder? Have you had amylase and lipase tests? Have you had a CT Scan of your kidneys.

    When I first got pancreatitis, I was a student at Duke and thought I had a kidney infection due to the pain in my upper right back on the side…typical kidney pain… I went to the ER, they put me on a stretcher and told me I coudn’t stand up. I had so many problems! For a while, I had a dr. sitting outside my door around the clock. They expected me to die and several times called my family in for the last farewell and all that… 14 years, almost 15 years ago! I travel all over the world, east and west Africa, mid east, India and all over the states–usually alone…and don’t take life for granted!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    My pain is right at the top portion of my liver just below my ribcage on my right side of course.

    I feel it more intensely after a large meal so I try not to eat a whole lot. It’s very uncomfortable.

  67. hockeyfan530 Says:

    correction

    all of “bambam’s” people not colmes but colmes was one of those annoying spokespeople too!

  68. j.b. Says:

    So, nobody is talking to me? Is my hat on backwards or something?

    To add insult to injury, now I’m saying what you were saying as if you never did. doh!

    *going now to catch up*

  69. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    waving hi at j.b.

  70. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    JAC, iI’m so glad you are OK! WE need you! Don’t do that again… 🙂

    In 1983, I was 23 and the dr gave me a drug called “Zomax”. It was a pain killer and he gave it to me because I had endometriosis very severely, and I also had migraine headaches. One night (I was in college, married with kids) I was preparing for final exams the next day and had a headache. I took two Indocin and in about 10 minutes I was calling out to my husband. I told him I was itching on my inside. He said, “You dummy, they took that stuff off the market this week because it was killing people.” He rushed me to the hospital. I was shutting down fast. AS soon as I walked into the Er and was talking to a nurse I went down. My heart stopped and they told my husband to call in my family I wasn’t going to live! (these drs’..if I listened to them I would have been so dead such a long time ago!) They worked on me until 7 or 8 am the next morning…about 12 hours. I spent over a week in the intensive coronary care unit.

  71. hockeyfan530 Says:

    news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081211/ap_on_re_us/obama_chicago_politics

    It appears the bloodhoundlike reporters for yahoo news were unable to sniff out much of a connection between Obama and chicago politics. I guess bambam really IS honest LOL

    here’s a lovely, unbiased, quote from the article

    Obama has managed to remain mostly — but not entirely — untarnished by local political corruption. Some analysts and former legislative colleagues cite various reasons: his skill, brains and character, his reform-minded base and his path to power, which did not involve climbing through the ranks of the Chicago Democratic Machine.

    “Rather than being above the fray, I think he has sidestepped the fray,” said Don Rose, a longtime political strategist. “It’s a tightrope-walking skill.”

  72. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Hey JB… I’m sorry…I’m in a morphine/oxy infused state of mind…don’t go!

    === and they are all legal drugs… I refuse to take them unless I’m having a serious attack. My hubby gets so frustrated with me… I’m so anti- drugs, pain killers and anti-doctors and hospitals… Those things and places can kill you though!

  73. hockeyfan530 Says:

    OK, that article made me sick.

    Also, a correction i meant to say bassethoundlike reporters NOT bloodhoundlike reporters…now my dog is p^&&ed!

  74. j.b. Says:

    waving hi at j.b.

    Holla back.

    Geez, ladies, I hope y’all feel bett
    ter soon. Lyn aren’t you an R.N?

  75. lyn Says:

    DD
    My pain is right at the top portion of my liver just below my ribcage on my right side of course.

    I feel it more intensely after a large meal so I try not to eat a whole lot. It’s very uncomfortable.

    THAT exactly how I was and thought it was reflux (For years) but then my liver number went up (I get blood work every year because i’m on pain meds for my back) so I went for a liver Ultra sound and MRI and it turned out my gall Bladder was full of stones. When I got it out my “reflux” went away.

    PPatty. I actually was thinking I should get the test done a couple weeks ago but put off calling the GI and saying you know in March you sent me for test I never went so can i have new scripts.

  76. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    thanx JB I’m strong– will be ok

  77. j.b. Says:

    yahoo news sucks. Arm of google which I now refuse to use AND have almost successfully eliminated from my vocab.

    You know how quick we are to say, “google it”? Well, it dosen’t quite flow as well, but now I say, “dogpile it”! 🙂

    Patty, I think the morphine is kinda making you slur………….j/k!

  78. j.b. Says:

    Did anyone here read the update on Larry S’s site?

  79. lyn Says:

    I used to be a Med Tech. Blood bank

  80. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Yep… had the gall bladder out too…mine had a huge tumor in it!

    You should really go Lyn. I’ll make you a deal. I’ll go get my Ca test done if you will go and get yours done.. I’m about 6 months over due on my last one…that means I missed it.

    I have a morphine pain pump implant for the pancreatic/liver pain. I know about all the labs and how Old it can get.

  81. lyn Says:

    Gee we should be related. I have a spinal stimulator implanted in my spine (duh) for my back. but of course it broke (BTW My son’s pacemaker broke too we must do weird things to medical divices)

  82. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    That was funny, JB.. I would tend to agree. It’s very difficult to type cause my vision is all smeared across the page..

    Lyn… pain like you mentioned can also be caused by pancreatitis. Everytime you eat, it hurts..but then you have this gnawing feeling so you want to eat… then you hurt..vicious cycle…

  83. thinkingmom11 Says:

    jb – do you have that link to sinclair’s? need to bookmark it…

  84. hockeyfan530 Says:

    i don’t know if this is the right link jb is speaking of

    larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com/

  85. j.b. Says:

    //larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com/

    Anyone hear of a presser Oblahblah is giving in the a.m.?

    What if Fitz got with OblowitoutyourAzz and told him to “give it up” (the POTUS) or he would, cuz he got the goods on him! Would that not be so cool?

  86. hockeyfan530 Says:

    jb,

    that would be the coolest thing in the world. But I’m sure he’s going to tell the nation that any thing confirming bambam and blago were taken out of context…again…man we are so stupid! We always take things about Obama out of context!LOL

  87. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Wow… Lyn.. I had to have a port-a-cath in my chest because I had no veins due to all of the treatments..

    One day (it was the last anniversay my late husband I would have together before he was killed) I started having serious heart palpitations. I had felt “it” happen when it happened. I was standing in line to pay for a book in Barnes and N. Of course, I bought my books..books are like hats you can never have too many! Anyway, when I got to the car I told him what had happened and I thought my port had broken. He wanted to take me to the hospital (late husband) but he had a serious appointment next day so I said no just let’s go home. On way home though we had to pull the car over several times for me to “puke” beside the road. So, he took me to the ER… they were idiots there.. anyway, they x-rayed, and they also tried to use the port…dumb..

    Well, I continued to get worse for three days. Finally went to my family dr and he did a chest xray. Came back and showed us the pic. I had a six inch tube curled up in my right atrium! They thought I would have to have open heart surgery because the tube had been in there for more than 24 hours. They were able to fish it out though. Then, last year the second one I had (I was in Africa when this happened) broke. It got in a loop up around my collar bone. The surgeons said they didn’t know how on earth that happened. (I had to wait til I returned home of course to go to the dr), then they put another one in, and a week later it broke! I now have no access. No veins. No port. I have decided to just “coast”!

  88. hockeyfan530 Says:

    I liked, i think it was colmes, when he said that we are all trying to connect the dots with Obama. Um, yeah, you’re right! That’s all you have to do with bambam is connect the dots and you end up with one ugly a&& picture!

  89. ddlew Says:

    lyn Says:
    December 11, 2008 at 4:44 am

    DD
    My pain is right at the top portion of my liver just below my ribcage on my right side of course.

    I feel it more intensely after a large meal so I try not to eat a whole lot. It’s very uncomfortable.

    THAT exactly how I was and thought it was reflux (For years) but then my liver number went up (I get blood work every year because i’m on pain meds for my back) so I went for a liver Ultra sound and MRI and it turned out my gall Bladder was full of stones. When I got it out my “reflux” went away.

    PPatty. I actually was thinking I should get the test done a couple weeks ago but put off calling the GI and saying you know in March you sent me for test I never went so can i have new scripts.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    For SOME reason, the specialist ruled out the gal bladder. He didn’t exactly explain why but he said he didn’t think that was an issue. Did some of my blood work reflect that maybe?? Or perhaps the sonogram didn’t show a problem…They did the sonogram on my gall bladder at the same time.

  90. j.b. Says:

    liked, i think it was colmes, when he said that we are all trying to connect the dots with Obama. Um, yeah, you’re right! That’s all you have to do with bambam is connect the dots and you end up with one ugly a&& picture!

    No kidding, which to me says, “Chit, this is so easy (to see the dots and then connect them)even a kid could do it!”

  91. hockeyfan530 Says:

    this is a great article about bambam, his bc and how he is a scum bag

    report.com/docs/DOC-161154

    made my night!

  92. hockeyfan530 Says:

    good night everyone….going to finish watching the hockey game in bed! GO BLUES!

    Blues just scored! YIPPPPEEEE!!!!

  93. thinkingmom11 Says:

    NOOOOO hockey just a sec – that link doesn’t work…

  94. j.b. Says:

    bummer, can’t get the article……..

  95. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Oh well – i’m out….y’all have fun and I will catch up in the morning…

    PEP – you take care of yourself (you too Lyn) and be a good girl and we’ll talk to you in the morning – get some rest.

    G’nite

  96. j.b. Says:

    .drudgereport.com/

    Troy, your Houston Snow made Drudge.

  97. Troy Says:

    Really….Wow!!!

  98. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Good Night everyone… I’m out like a light..

  99. lyn Says:

    Have fun. what an Ass
    voices.washingtonpost.com/dot.comments/2008/12/fuel_for_the_anti-obama_crowd.html?hpid=topnews

    Arrest Fuels Anti-Obama Crowd
    There’s nothing like a little Guilt-by-Association Red Meat to bring the anti-Obama crowd back to the comment boards. Hundreds of posts have found their way to various articles on washingtonpost.com and elsewhere about the dramatic arrest yesterday of Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich for, among other things, allegedly trying to sell the Senate seat vacated by President-elect Obama.

    Federal prosecutors said without equivocation that there is no evidence of Obama’s involvement in the matter, but the noisy anti-Obama comment crowd stirred from its post-election silence to fire away. Because, as Michael D. Shear and Chris Cillizza wrote, “the conspiracy allegedly dreamed up by Blagojevich was an unwelcome development in Obama’s transition to power, threatening something Obama has avoided throughout his career — the taint of Chicago politics.”

    Our Readers Who Comment are warring over this, of course. A few call for impeachment of Obama, and we haven’t even had the inauguration. A few posts repeat the phony birth certificate allegation that the Supreme Court tossed earlier this week, and some make reference to Obama’s televised statement that “we [pause].. I had no contact with the governor.” Unfortunately, the article does not include that “we” in the direct quote and readers see the omission as part of continuing bias in Post reporting on the election

    ps he is either really stupid or lies wait he is the typical Obama MSM

  100. Troy Says:

    ******BREAKING NEWS******

    SUBPEONAS ARE BEING HANDED DOWN

    http//
    wizbangblog.com/content/2008/12/09/breaking-news-grand-jury-supeonas-issued-for-rezkoobama-land-deal.php

  101. ddlew Says:

    Troy Says:
    December 11, 2008 at 6:33 am

    ******BREAKING NEWS******

    SUBPEONAS ARE BEING HANDED DOWN

    http//
    wizbangblog.com/content/2008/12/09/breaking-news-grand-jury-supeonas-issued-for-rezkoobama-land-deal.php

    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    Yeah that was back in 2006. Still might implicate the Obama’s though.

  102. Troy Says:

    I hope so

  103. sliderblaze Says:

    ace.mu.nu/

    so we’ve all seen the picture of obama and blago shaking hands, turns out, I was from Last tuesday at the Gov. meeting in Philly. or so ace is implying and i’d tend to agree.

  104. sliderblaze Says:

    i love the header at the KHQA website

    “Because Accuracy Matters”

    KHQA, under the bus…..

  105. susiezen Says:

    obamas going to be in some huge trouble from blovoyvitch [sp] yhis guy is going to sing like a canary when faced with jail time. obamas into this mess up to his elbows…he probably hand picked jessi jackson jr to take his vacant sen seat, even though the 500,00 bucks was a litle shy of what the gov wanted to buy the seat….jackson jr is going to be deep into this mess too. These demos are turning out to be a corrupt bunch of nasties…by the way network news refused to call gov blovoyvtch a democrat…they just called him mayor…go figure

  106. sliderblaze Says:

    ya mean Gov. There is no way this dont touch Obama in some what shape or form. New kinda politics huh, outstanding

  107. susiezen Says:

    well, I know im new here, but in case you read it on other sites, im working on exposing mr k for falsely implying he had the infamous tapes. his latest article this morning basically states that he will not be releasing the tapes and that “a few of us would be disappointed” I think he may have underestimated an american and his/her passion for politics.
    I guess he feels he got what he wanted and its time for us to just go away now….read his latest article. Unfortunatlly he is not getting off that easy. his arrogance on thinking that this is over and he makes the rules. the name CHIEF got to his head. or maybe we kissed his ass a little too hard. either way he has know idea what he has in store. this isnt vindictiveness on my part, I just dont feel its right for mr Korir to so easily profit off of our passion for exposing obama and protecting our country. he used us the wrong way.

  108. jrinNC Says:

    susiezen – – the article states : “API will not continue to keep the story alive for long, but will instead bring it to a closure soon. Of all the parties pursuing the release of the tape, a few will be disappointed at the outcome. The road to the proposed closure has been long and API will ensure that all the facts surrounding the tape, the intended release and the bringing to closure of any further speculation will take place as soon as all the facts are on the table and a final road map to closure is ready.” But I do not see that he says he will not be releasing tapes. Am I missing something here?

  109. hockeyfan530 Says:

    susiezen,

    I think a good way to get back at K is to perhaps create a web site and tell the story about these tapes. This will discredit API somewhat. Just put the site up and forget about it. K probably did this to get traffic to his site. But all the traffic in the world will do nothing if you tell the whole story about the tape. Telling people that most of the hits on his site were Americans watching this bogus story for 2 months. Just a thought

  110. jrinNC Says:

    He has already been discredited. NO ONE goes to that site anymore.

  111. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Hey Guys.. everyone… I think the meds last night cleared my thinking this morning. I need to get in touch with one of these guys researching Obama’s citizenship status. I think I have an idea that I doubt has been checked out just yet. It may have been, but I haven’t heard it anywhere. I don’t want to post it here because of lurkers. It just came to me this morning, and as was said –there are certain records that obama couldn’t seal… who should I contact, Linda Starr? Anyone have contact info for her?

  112. jrinNC Says:

    Hey Pep, glad you are better this morning. Had me worried. I had pancreatis once – was in hospital for over a week. But I also had an Aunt who developed it and the next day she died. So it is a very serious condition. Please don’t take any chances. Linda has a web site, should have her email addy on it somewhere.

  113. rosettasister Says:

    # earthangle3 Says:
    December 11, 2008 at 3:32 am

    HI Iam new I think tnissite to very inesting.

    # earthangle3 Says:
    December 11, 2008 at 3:35 am

    sorry for the running my word together.

    ———————-

    Welcome earthangle3!

    Sorry it took me so long to get to you.

    Hope you see this.

    You should be able to post at will now.

    “one-post” stands not allowed!

    hehe

    Rosetta

  114. hockeyfan530 Says:

    pepper,
    how about phil berg

  115. jrinNC Says:

    got this off her site: You can email me at:
    linda +-+ lindastarr.us
    Replace the “+-+” with “@” to make a real email address.
    I do this so spam crawlers won’t recognize the email address and pick it up!

  116. sdee Says:

    Another search engine to try out which is talked about on some of the privacy blogs.

    ixquick.com

  117. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Thanks Jr. I’m on God’s time… dr.s gave up on me a long time ago. Funny huh? Every day is a blessing! A person who has never had pancreatitis hasn’t known what real pain is–not to negate anyone else’s suffering. But, people who have known me over the years and who have had later suffered a one time attack of pancreatitis have come back to me and told me, “I don’t know how you live with this everyday. I never knew that anything could hurt so bad.” Sometimes, I can only describe the pain as if this is what it would be like to be fileted alive. Sorry everyone for going on about my personal stuff. It’s just tough fighting this right now.

    I have a “date” with my granddaughter and one of her friends. I have a 6 hour drive tomorrow to pick them up in Charlotte and an all day expedition this week-end with them touring the Biltmore House, catching a ballet and dinner afterwards. I have to make it til Sunday night when I take her home. After that, I can crash for a few days!

  118. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Morning HF… I thought Linda and Phil work together… but I’ll try them both..

    Thanks Jr for Linda’s email. I’m going to send her an email right now.

  119. Al Says:

    peppermintpatty777 Says:

    December 11, 2008 at 3:29 am
    Pease Al… nope.. I psent too many years in the hospital– they get me in they don’t want to let me out. I’d be there til after Chrstmas. Iv’e been in the best hopsitals– Duke, Johns Hopkins just to name a couple…and the truth is, it’s like being water boarded the stuff they can do to you in the name of healing…

    Nope…not going …just going to keep my prayers said and my pain meds coming… thank goondess for morphine and lots of it.

    Al, you have a good night.

    ************************************************************

    Your spelling of Peace (Pease) and spent (psent), Susan is an indication that the medication is affecting you somewhat. Nevertheless your overall health is priority one, so please take them faithfully until you are back up to speed. Just maybe the doctors and nurses don’t allow you an early exit because they may actually enjoy your upbeat and respectful disposition; they are human like the rest of us and occasionally need to be reminded that even beyond their respectful titles they matter too as fellow human beings. Stay positive. Hope you’re feeling much better.

    Before I head out to the hardware store, Susan, just curious, Do you know that while you were under the spell of morphine that you had the audacity to call the next First Lady of the United States of America, I quote, “‘chelle”, lol, and added something to the effect that she shouldn’t be shopping for any drapes for the White House? Are you pyschic, Susan, or is that the morphine talking?

  120. Foxtrot Says:

    Good Morning everyone! Any earth shattering news this morning? In about 30 minutes I have to go and bake 25 applesauce breads for the holidays–UGH!

  121. Foxtrot Says:

    Pep–they both do work together but better to send to both of them to cover your bases.

  122. Tenacity Says:

    Patty,
    If I had a good idea, I would pass it on to Orly Taitz. So many see the whole Berg crowd as crackpots. I believe Taitz has a larger staff and better funding. Plus, her clients have a better chance at having standing. She has expressed her intent to keep the pressure on Obama until he is brought down.

  123. Foxtrot Says:

    I watched Jesse Jackson Jr.’s interview statement last night. I thought he sounded very genuine. I truly hope he is not involved in this because I have long since thought he could do great things for our country. He is much more intelligent than his father, and has more decorum.

  124. Foxtrot Says:

    Tenacity, after the press conference, now the press is looking at Orly as a crackpot! Berg is looking much better to them credibility wise! I mean, Orly “went off” and starting screaming things that Obama’s mother was alive, etc. If she had credibility, it is now gone. I read some of the reports from reporters in the room and they think she is certifiable!

  125. Foxtrot Says:

    Pep–You need to go in to the doctor! NOW! You are in my prayers.

  126. Foxtrot Says:

    Did anyone else hear the report that Obama is going to turn over all his phone, and email records? It was reported on FOX last night by one of his “team” that he was going to recommend Obama do that. Did he?

    (wait . . . I am holding my breath!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

  127. Foxtrot Says:

    Relative to the Governor’s situation, in case I was not clear.

  128. Foxtrot Says:

    . . . still h o l d i n g m y bre a t h!!!!!

  129. Tenacity Says:

    Fox,
    Have you seen/heard the press conference? If so, where?

  130. Foxtrot Says:

    This was an interesting tidbit I found on another blog! Anyone know anything else about this other “secret” case?
    ————————

    written by bergs assistant, December 11, 2008

    You ask wonderful questions. We have to be prepared, if we release all we have to the public now, the Defendants will build a defense using it and knowing what we have and what we will say. So, while in litigation, we have to hold back. We also have an action filed under seal in Washington D.C., so I can’t give details but can tell you have another action pending.

    If we were to get bounced from Court then absolutely, we are not giving up.

  131. Foxtrot Says:

    Tenacity, no I have not. I have just read from several sources what they said went on in the conference. I can’t remember which site but it was either americasright, noquarter, or citizenwells who attended and they stated that because Orly, Rev. Manning, and others went “crazy’, instead of acting like sane people, that you could tell they lost all credibility in the eyes of the reporters. (and these websites support our cause!) There were other sources as well. These people need to hire a PR person who knows what they are doing! GEEEEEZ!

  132. Tenacity Says:

    The DC Press Conference has been posted (finally) by Bob Schultz at:
    http: //video.google.com/videosearch?q=bob%20schultz%20press%20conference&rls=com.microsoft:*:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GWYF&um=1&sa=N&tab=wv#+

    It is the second video shown.

  133. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Pep – I have a feeling you think you are invincible and I know how you feel about being on God’s time. But, I concur with fox, I think you need to get to the doctor. I think driving in the car for 6 hours is a really bad idea. Is someone else (adult) going with you? It would be a tragedy if something were to happen while you are on the road or out on the town with your grandaughter. Not to be gloom and doom but if there is no other adult going, to be on the safe side, you may want to postpone your visit. None of us here want anything bad to happen to you. We know you are a tough lady with a wonderful heart but sometimes you have to take it easy and take care of yourself. God may keep you here for while to come but it is the choices you make that determine the quality of that time. God bless you, Pep and GO TO THE DOCTOR!!

  134. Tenacity Says:

    I am watching Shulz….yaaaawwn….He needs a speech writer and a pinch hitter.

  135. ddlew Says:

    Yes Fox. I read the same thing. It seems that they did make themselves look pretty bad. Jeff Schreiber was there and that was pretty much his assesment.

    On this Gov. Blago thing: I’m not real sure there’s anything to this. Sure, Fits has done a great job in exposing the man’s character but he hasn’t, at least in what has been released, been able to show any example of any laws being broken. Perhaps the breaking of laws has been discussed but Fitz seems to have injected himself BEFORE actual crimes were comitted.

  136. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    well, I tried to post and it ate my post…let’s try again

    Ok.. I will send it to all of the above and hope someone follows through. I would do it but I’m under hubby orders not to go anywhere.. expecilly to Washington state and HI. I like the idea though..

    Thanks Ten and Foxy..

    Foxy, you said they both work togeher, are you talking about Berg and Starr or Morphine and Oxycontin? I’ll take both right now.

    Al said: “Just maybe the doctors and nurses don’t allow you an early exit because they may actually enjoy your upbeat and respectful disposition; they are human like the rest of us and occasionally need to be reminded that even beyond their respectful titles they matter too as fellow human beings. Stay positive. Hope you’re feeling much better.”

    Geeze Al, I don’t care what everyone says about you when you aren’t here, you do have a kind heart! Or you are a plain good schmoozer!

    and Al, I think “psychotic” would better answer the qestion than “psychic”!

    But really, I do believe that the truth will always be revealed, as long as there are people seeking the truth– my Abba said, “seek, keep on seeking, and you will find” With all the people who are seeking the truth, I believe it will be found and revealed… and the Truth will set you free–

    When the truth about Obama and his involvement in the Chicago blitz is known, we wil all be set free–

    so I say it again, “Get your cotton picking fingers off of those drapes!”

  137. rosettasister Says:

    susiezen Says:
    December 11, 2008 at 1:37 pm

    well, I know im new here, but in case you read it on other sites, im working on exposing mr k for falsely implying he had the infamous tapes.

    ———————-

    Hi, susie!

    I happened to see your post.

    I do miss a lot of what goes on around here.

    I didn’t want you to think I wasn’t interested, as I am.

    I do wish the “Group of Five” (as I’ve dubbed them) would make a collective public statement of sorts.

    I would love to put up that new post here at RosettaSister.

    Actually, thanks for providing me the opportunity to post the following chat when Dianna got banned. I just happened to be lurking and was very glad to hear what Dianna had to say about Korir.

    ————————

    Dianna001:MammaE, there will be no action on the BC issue. All of DC, GOP< DNC and well just about everyone has decided its too costly for the Nation to kick obama to the curb

    texasmom7:yes Zop, you are very correct

    Dianna001:So they are going to force an unconstitutional President on us

    texasmom7:well, then just screw the constitution and We The People

    Dianna001:And Apparently SCOTUS is in on it

    Dianna001:Yep. Dianna001:I am sick

    mommaEradioRebels:COC there is no Dual Allegiance in Leo’s and Cort’s as the British Columbia was lost in 1963 and became Kenya. The only DA is the one from Indonesia.

    zxg8r:dianna did you have conversation here with chief laStnight?

    Majestic77:me too mommaEradioRebels:Where he is listed as Barry Soetoro, Indonesian Citizen

    Dianna001:And sincerely considering that we have an Usurper about to take the reigns of power, which means the USA is dead.

    Majestic77:exactly tm who needs a constitution if it’s ignored

    texasmom7:Trojan Horse

    Dianna001:ZXg yes I did

    zxg8r:if so were you the one he called a mole

    Dianna001:What time are you referring to, I logged out at abou oh what 11pm Pacific

    mommaEradioRebels:I lost the link please post it again

    Dianna001:No, zxg8r:8 pm est

    texasmom7:http://decalogosintl.org/?p=46

    Dianna001:The Mole was Cloud, or so K would have me and 4 other ladies believe

    zxg8r:where is cloud now

    Dianna001:He gave us 2 phone numbers supposedly given to him by Cloud and that he had reached her at.

    Dianna001:He gave us all those numbers, 5 in total.

    texasmom7:Dianna, what in the heck do you think his motive was?

    Dianna001:3 of which were real. The other two he (I believe) he planted

    Dianna001:Stir up trouble, create drama that would keep people coming back

    mommaEradioRebels:Thank you! Got it.

    Guest1803:my display name is now Guest1854

    Dianna001s banned

    Majestic77:didn’t one of the numbers go to the Ny city PD

    —————————-

    susie, as far as any recourse we might have against Korir, besides exposing him, what else can we do?

    he’s already lost all credibility as far as I can tell.

    the only ones who still believe in Korir’s integrity are just ignorant as to all that has transpired or just stubborn as hell

    This is why I wish the Group of Five would publish a public statement condemning Korir.

    Since I don’t publish my email, it dawned on me that if anyone wanted to reach me about anything, just include a link in your comment.

    Any link will do and it will go to moderation and I’ll definitely see it.

    Thanks, susie.

    Rosetta

  138. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    I wondr if Blag asked to see the BC’s of the 5 candidates? Hmmm… might be a point some of these obots might want to think about…

  139. Lyn Says:

    Troy Says:

    December 11, 2008 at 6:33 am
    ******BREAKING NEWS******

    SUBPEONAS ARE BEING HANDED DOWN

    http//
    wizbangblog.com/content/2008/12/09/breaking-news-grand-jury-supeonas-issued-for-rezkoobama-land-deal.php

    the washington article is from October (you know BEFORE the lection) where was drudge or anyone then? I actually sent that article to the MSM…crickets

  140. Foxtrot Says:

    Wow! What a great video link. I would encourage all of us to send this link to our State Electors asap, so they can view it before they vote! I only wish they had done this sooner! (h t t p: / / in front of it)
    ———————————-
    uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sX7uuhHXs-0

  141. Tenacity Says:

    Patty,
    I’m not excited about second guessing you, BUT (monkey) it would appear that you are either 1) in denial and not wanting to face the truth that you need to get your butt to the doctor, or 2) you have lost hope and are not being honest with us, thinking the doctors will not be able to help you. Either synopsis is dysfunctional. Get off your butt and get to the doctor. You are not being fair to your husband, your family or us, for that matter. We all would like to keep you around and you are being negligent. Tough words?….maybe…Who am I to judge you?…nobody…but ask yourself if its not the truth.

  142. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I will check in and out today…I am sick and was up all night with two barfing babies. Need sleep…need coffee…wait is that a good idea…oh, yeah, no coffee=massive headache…coffee first…bye, y’all

  143. Foxtrot Says:

    Hope your babies get better, Mom!

  144. Foxtrot Says:

    (with dread in her voice) I have to go make/bake those 25 applesauce breads now. Delayed long enough. Be back in the afternoon.

  145. Tenacity Says:

    17 minutes into the DC PC tape…Berg finally gets the podium. I honestly can’t remember a thing Schulz said.

  146. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Geeze, guys, I have dealt with this stuff for so long, that unless I’m in so much pain that I’m on verge of shock (wich is what happened last night–til I got pain meds going), I don’t go. Here’s what the drs do:

    A. bland, liquid, or no thing po (by mouth)
    b. morphine drip
    c. lots of blood from whatever vein they can find–right now either my foot or my jugular…
    d. wake me up when I get to sleep and then give me meds to make me sleep

    At home: I can control my diet, b. well, you all know about the morphine and oxy. c. keep my blood in my veins d. sleep with my hubby keeping me nice and snuggly e. have the good company of you guys– hubby has me on bedrest… I forget all those other letters but I know they outweigh the hospital dr option…

    And, time has proven that when I’m admitted into the hospital, something that they do shoots my enzyme levels (pancreatic and liver even higher–or I get worse before I get better)

    Ten– I can take the tough words, and if it gets to the point where I HAVE to go, I will.

    Hubby keeps calling me every two hours–worse than a nurse waking you up to see if you need something to sleep. brrr!

  147. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Mom… I’ll say a prayer for you and your babies. Coffee and sleep do not go hand in hand!

    Obama is giving a full blown speech! He makes me cringe… like finger anils scraping on a blackboard!. He lies so easily…

  148. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    I can sum it (Obama’s speech) up in seven words, uhhh, uh, uhhh– iii, uhhh, urr, uhh

  149. jrinNC Says:

    Pep = yup that does sum up his speech quite well. I was on the phone with my cousin and said the exact same thing to her.

  150. Tenacity Says:

    Berg took about 18 minutes, was straight forward and clear, but I didn’t hear anything that most of you haven’t heard repeatedly.

    Schulz gets back up and acts like Donofrio is supposed to speak. I’m getting the feeling Mr. Schulz is a little slow in getting his messages. 10+ more minutes of Schulz acting sedatedly shocked that BO hasn’t responded to his requests and open letter. Finally, Orly Taitz is up at 46 minutes into the tape.

  151. Tenacity Says:

    Patty,
    Thanks for being candid. No more tough words…at least not about this subject. May God’s healing hand be on you and strengthen you.

  152. thinkingmom11 Says:

    thanks Fox and Pep – the littlest one (3yo) who had the worst night seems to be feeling much better. My 5yo is slugging on the couch and I am trying to choke down enough coffee to keep the headache at bay…

    I have a quick question, the subpeaona (sp?) for the RezkoBama deal, was that just in the last couple of days? I read somewhere that someone thought that it happened a while ago…I hope it is new 🙂

  153. Tenacity Says:

    I’ve gotta get some work done and will watch the rest of the PC later.
    bbl

  154. ddlew Says:

    I haven’t had a chance to view the tape but (from what I have read about the conference) I wish they would have just stated their case(s) and offered to answer questions without going into conspiracy theories.

  155. rosettasister Says:

    I think these links were already posted, but here they are, anyway.

    “WTP Obama Citizenship Challenge – National Press Club, DC Dec. 8 2008”

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6771521759788800576&hl=en

    http://usatodayadforobamarecords.blogspot.com/2008/12/wtp-obama-citizenship-challenge.html

  156. Lyn Says:

    OT but Fox is saying a small child’s remains were found near casey Anthony’s home. (I do not know what “near” is tho)

  157. sba1872 Says:

    Lots of good reading today at therealbarackobama.wordpress.com
    starting with speculation about Rezko:

    therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/12/11/rbo-news-views-the-perp-walk-2-edition/

  158. Lyn Says:

    thinkingmom11 Says:

    December 11, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    I hope the kids and you feel better soon.
    Drudge Just posted the supena leak a couple days ago, BUT the story they linked to is from October, you know when Obama still could have been stopped

  159. thinkingmom11 Says:

    figgers….

  160. thinkingmom11 Says:

    gonna go lay down…later

  161. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Lyn,

    About 1/4 mile from Anthony home.

  162. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    That’s ok Ten. I’m good. My hubby just called again– I think I’ll take a nap –again… you all can hold down the fort here..

  163. Al Says:

    Geeze Al, I don’t care what everyone says about you when you aren’t here, you do have a kind heart! Or you are a plain good schmoozer!

    ************************************************************

    First things first, Susan. Let’s begin with you hopefully realizing that the folks posting on this blog genuinely care about you–that’s touching. Each of them have your best interests at heart/in mind by encouraging you to check yourself in to the hospital–PLEASE consider that option.

    I think I hear in your statements about doctor’s and hospitals in general is your disdain for their lack of a modern-day bedside manner as oppose to being treated as just another number syndrome these days. Don’t know longterm what your plans are to address your health concerns, but did want to make you aware of the Cam Neely Foundation, where for the most part patients are treated well and with the upmost respect. Next time you and your husband travel north to his native New York City, give some thought to driving further up Interstate 95 to Boston, Massachusetts and getting a feel for Mr. Neely’s Foundation up close and personal.

    Now, if the mention of Cam Neely wasn’t enough about the National Hockey League already, let me use a hockey analogy (with apologies to Hockeyfan” who isn’t here to offer his keen insights) of sorts to address your comments about whether I actually have a kind heart in spite of what others may say when I’m not here. Unlike Mr. Neely, Susan, Todd Ewen to date has not be mentioned as a potential inductee into the National Hockey League Hall of Fame. However, standing about 6’3″ and tipping the scales at 230lbs during his playing days in the late 80’s and early 90’s, Mr. Ewen knew his role/place on the teams he played with around the league, to stand up to the opposing team in defense of his smaller and more gifted teammates. In spite of the earned reputation that Mr. Ewen made around the league as a someone even the best fighters tried to avoid at all cost, Mr. Ewen left his take no prisoners attitude out on the ice when the games was over…in fact, Susan, this so-called thug/goon even went on to write Children’s Books during the off-season. My point is, yes, in spite of what any of us may have on the surface as a reputation, there’s a more accurate picture of who any of us genuinely are behind the reputations.

    Have learned years ago that online interactions are a study in contrast, and no matter where the online community’s setting is taking place there will always be pretty much the same dynamics in place, so I resolve to get along in-spite of what others may say. The only time I am concerned/afraid of most anybody/anything, Susan, is when I imagine having to go into the corners in a hockey rink with the likes of Cam Neely, Bob Probert, Jay Miller, Dave Brown, etc and daring to take the puck off their hockey stick. That, Susan, takes real courage and no one can do it hiding behind a computer screen.

    Hope you’re feeling better today, but don’t let precious moments tick away before making a decision about your health. Peace.

  164. rosettasister Says:

    Found at Free Republic:

    To: SolidWood; LucyT

    Obama has a biography? Maybe they’ll include a miniature COLB?

    Tomorrow is a birthday for Obama: the birth of the Bogus COLB:

    BORN: JUNE 12, 2008 8:12am

    I’ll be throwing it tomorrow. Stop by for some cake, ice cream, and your own, commemorative COLB image.

    19 posted on Thursday, December 11, 2008 10:21:56 AM by Polarik

  165. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Touche Al! I’ve been trying to get several children’s books published…so I admire anyone who can get the Job done! Hoping the SCBWIC can help me get that done– and some friends at a winter schmooze coming up!

    I don’t know much about Hockey, as I’m a football fan… but, I admire anyone who can compete on ice or turf…

    And, Al, I am calling a truce for today– 🙂

    So, what kind of books did the goon/thug write? I know I can do the research, but I’m just too out of it to do that.

    My son is 6’7″ –wears a size 17-1/2 shoe.

    I’ll have to study that post when I’m not so dopey…or sleepy… I was having a good snooze til hubby called to see if I needed anything. Then the FED ex lady came and I had to get up to go to the door. ‘Course when she got a quarter pound of my world famous Rocky-Road Home made Fudge she left with a smile on her face!

  166. Foxtrot Says:

    Just peeking in.

    No, Mom, that subpoena posted was dated from October!

  167. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Caylee– a gift from heaven, returned– unopened.

    Caylee Anthony, In the arms of an angel– and in a place of peace.

  168. rosettasister Says:

    “Supremes turn down request to stop Electoral vote”

    ”But Friday, high court will consider another case in flood of eligibility challenges”

    Posted: December 11, 2008
    12:00 am Eastern

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=83299

    EXCERPT

    The U.S. Supreme Court has turned aside a request to stop the Electoral College from selecting the 44th president, in a vote scheduled for Monday, until Barack Obama documents his eligibility for the office under the Constitution’s requirement that presidents must be “natural born” citizens.

    The action came in a case brought to the high court by Philip J. Berg, who alleges Obama is ineligible to be president.

    Berg had asked the court for an injunction the stay the Electoral College votes and prohibit Vice President Dick Cheney, the House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate from counting any votes until that demanded proof arrives.

    The injunction was sought while Berg awaits the court’s determination on whether it will hear his writ of certiorari requesting review of a dismissal of his case in U.S. District Court in eastern Pennsylvania.

    “I know that Mr. Obama is not a constitutionally qualified natural born citizen and is ineligible to assume the office of president of the United States,” Berg said in a statement on his ObamaCrimes.com website.

    http://www.obamacrimes.com/

    “Obama knows he is not ‘natural born’ as he knows where he was born and he knows he was adopted in Indonesia; Obama is an attorney, Harvard Law grad who taught Constitutional law; Obama knows his candidacy is the largest ‘hoax’ attempted on the citizens of the United States in over 200 years; Obama places our Constitution in a ‘crisis’ situation; and Obama is in a situation where he can be blackmailed by leaders around the world who know Obama is not qualified,” Berg’s statement continued.

    However, the high court, in a terse website entry, confirmed the application for the injunction was “denied by Justice [David] Souter.”

    Freeper Thread:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2146900/posts

  169. Foxtrot Says:

    Peeeeppermiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnt Paaaaaaaaaaatttttttyyyyy! This is the voice from beyond, telling you TO GET YOUR ARSE TO THE HOSPITAL!!! Seriously Pep, you need to know what is going on. I know how you feel about hospitals, but that “feeling” is not going to make the pain or the diagnosis go away. PLEASE GO NOW.

    As for great hospitals, of course, living in Minnesota for many years, I am partial to the Mayo Clinic. Can’t beat that! It is in southern Minnesota and they are the best in the world!

  170. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Al, I’ll check out the Cam Neely suggestion. I have seen the top doctors in the world. I think that has turned out to be more of a damning thing than a good thing. Once doctors locally discover that I’ve been to the doctors I have, then they don’t want to attempt to go beyond where we have been– “You’ve been to the best doctors in the world, and while we think this might be the answer to your problems, we believe if it were then they would have already tried it…therefore, let’s take your pancreas out (much more extreme than their previous plan) and see how long you live…” NOT! So, now I have the best drs in the world who have decided there is nothing they can do, so they don’t really have an interest any longer–and the doctors who have an idea but no confidence to follow through. I just said the heck with the whole lot of them. Last year, this time, they told me I had pancreatic cancer, then two weeks later they told me I didn’t have pancreatic cancer but I had another kind of cancer that would kill me in a very miserable way–then two weeks after that, and many many more tests, they told me I didn’t have that either, but I have some kind of problem that will become cancer– but there’s nothing they can do. You know, I’ve heard I have had cancer so many times…and praises to my Abba, He keeps saying I don’t.

    One time, when I was living in Duke Med Center for an extended period of time– the docs came in and told me they were pretty sure I had liver cancer. I just sort of nodded and continued with my knitting. The doctor asked me if I didn’t understand what he was telling me. I said, “yes, I understand” He said, “well, do you understand that if you have liver cancer you are not going to live more than a few months, and you will never go home from here?” I said, “I understand that you think I have liver cancer. I understand you think I’m not going to go home, but my heavenly Father hasn’t told me I was going home yet.” So, the kind doctor sent in a psychiatrist to see me because they said I was in denial. The psychiatrist talked to me and went away. Then, the doctor came back and talked to me again. I had peace in my heart and joy regardless. So, the doctor went away and sent in a chaplain. She was a nice young lady and asked me if I understood that I was dying. I told her, “I understand the doctors think I’m dying. However, my Father hasn’t told me I am dying.” The nurses would come into my room and “hide out”. I worked hard to make sure my room looked nothing or smelled nothing like a hospital room! My Abba has been so good to me. This attack is nothing to what I’ve been through. Thank you all, because you have helped me to remember that. God willing, I’ll be better tomorrow…the next day at the least.

  171. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Foxy, if I’m not better Monday, I will go. I promise. Can we please get on with the important stuff now? It’s raining cats and goats here.

  172. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Even the Mighty Ducks wouldn’t like this weather today!

    Wish it was snow and not rain. At least hubby would have had the day off–or the hospital would have sent someone to with 4-wd to get him–at least we could have slept late.

  173. rosettasister Says:

    This link may have been posted already. Not sure.

    From deanhaskins

    Added: December 10, 2008

    Important message for our electors. For more information, please visit

    http://www.democratic-disaster.com

    Freeper Thread:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2146738/posts

  174. rosettasister Says:

    Okay! Now I get the comment about “Lucy in Disguise” buying the supermarket tabloid!

    Obama – Born in the USA?

    http://www.globemagazine.com/story/277

    PRESIDENT-elect Barack Obama is being rocked by a series of shocking new lawsuits charging his election was illegal! GLOBE’s special report reveals why some national leaders believe his Hawaiian birth certificate was forged – and that America’s next commander-in-chief was born in Kenya, which could doom his presidency. It’s must reading.

  175. rosettasister Says:

    http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/rrb_-jh_FINAL_complaint_cover_and_aff.pdf

    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

    V.

    ROD R. BLAGOJEVICH, and
    JOHN HARRIS

  176. ddlew Says:

    Hey guys, this is important. This is “nail in the coffin” important.

    http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2008/12/11/natural-born-citizen-defined-by-14th-amendment-framers-and-in-treatise-relied-on-by-scalia/

    If you haven’t been to Leo’s site today, you need to get your arses over there. Specifically for this post.

  177. Al Says:

    peppermintpatty777 Says:

    December 11, 2008 at 6:13 pm
    Al, I’ll check out the Cam Neely suggestion.

    ************************************************************

    That’s reassuring, Susan. You may also want to keep Foxy’s strong recommendation about the Mayo Clinic in mind too should you and your husband ever venture anywhere towards the midwest. Cannot wait until you’re feeling better as it’s no fun to win a a debate by default. Nevertheless, it seems Mr. Obama is putting a safe/great distance between himself and Governor Blagojevich–with many news outlets now turning their attention upon the governor’s wife and her not so Sunday School language, deflecting even any remote attention away from Mr. Obama. Gotta give Mr. Alexrod his due as seems to know how to best manage damage control.

  178. ddlew Says:

    http//naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2008/12/11/natural-born-citizen-defined-by-14th-amendment-framers-and-in-treatise-relied-on-by-scalia/

  179. rosettasister Says:

    From rosaryfilms

    Added: November 06, 2008

    $1 MM Reward 4 Obama Long-Form Birth Certificate / Video

    One Million Dollar Reward Offered For Certified Obama Long-Form Birth Certificate

    Secret of the Rosary Films is offering a one million dollar reward for the certified long-form birth certificate of Barack Obama.

    The long-form birth certificate must be certified by the U.S. Supreme Court.

    Long form birth certificates are exact photocopies of the original birth record that was prepared by the hospital or attending physician at the time of the child’s birth.

    The long form usually includes parents’ information such as address of residence, race, birth place, date of birth — and additional information on the child’s birthplace, and information on the doctors that assisted in the birth of the child. The long form also usually includes the signature of the doctor involved and at least one of the parents.

    When Hawaii became a state in 1959, there were many people who resided there who did not have a birth certificate. From 1911 to 1972, in Hawaii a person — over the age of one — whose birth was not registered — could apply for a short form birth certificate in Hawaii.

    Obamas Kenyan grandmother stated he was born in Kenya. However, Obamas mother or grandmother probably filed an affidavit stating that Obama was born in Hawaii and the state of Hawaii issued the kind of short form certificate posted on the Obamas Web site.

    This is the reason why Obama has not released a long form Hawaiian birth certificate to the courts it does not exist.

  180. Foxtrot Says:

    This shows that Justice Scalia is definitely on our side! Let’s hope the rest of the Justices come around! (at least 4 of them!) h t t p: / / in front of it.
    ==================
    naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/

  181. Foxtrot Says:

    Rosetta, I did post that video to the Electors above somewhere, but it never hurts to repeat it!

    =============
    December 11, 2008 at 6:27 pm
    This link may have been posted already. Not sure.

    From deanhaskins

    Added: December 10, 2008

    Important message for our electors. For more information, please visit

    http://www.democratic-disaster.com

  182. Al Says:

    Hope the Rosary Film production crew don’t fall victim to any possible overtures from the “Imam” and/or Mr. Korir, who just may be interested in the million dollar prize award…at least the Rosary Film staff were/are smart enough to assert that any deals hinge upon the certification of the document by the Supreme Court–brilliant!

  183. Foxtrot Says:

    Oops ddlew! I didn’t read the posts before I posted the Scalia/14th Amendment article. Oh well, as I told Rosetta, it never hurts to post twice I guess! Hehe!

  184. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    So much reading to do…

    I think Fox is asking some good questions… I like Gretchen more and more…

    Al, I will come out fighting…just give me a day or two. Your little bot self will just not know what hit you… on the ice dude!

  185. rosettasister Says:

    Foxtrot Says:
    December 11, 2008 at 6:59 pm

    Rosetta, I did post that video to the Electors above somewhere, but it never hurts to repeat it!

    ——————-

    Thanks, Foxy!

    Sometimes it takes me a spell to catch up wit y’all!

  186. rosettasister Says:

    Why has “Wanna Cut His Nuts Off” Jesse Jackson Sr. retained legal council?

    http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Unidentified-Characters.html

    EXCERPT

    In two other interesting developments Wednesday, NBC Chicago learned that Jackson Jr. was given a phone call from the U.S. Attorney’s Office the night before the governor was taken into custody, advising him that the arrest was imminent. Also, the congressman’s father, Jesse Jackson Sr., has retained legal council following the Blagojevich arrest.

    And late Wednesday, one of Jackson Jr.’s colleagues in the House, U.S. Rep. Bobby Rush, issued a statement endorsing Jackson to fill the Senate seat.

  187. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    I’d go dumpster diving for a million dollars…esp. if it brought Obama’s greed machine to a rumbling halt!

  188. Foxtrot Says:

    Did anyone post this Globe story yet! Heck, even if it is the Globe, at least they are covering it! FRONT PAGE, NO LESS! PHOTO IS PRICELESS! I might go buy it today! (h t t p: / / w w w. in front)

    globemagazine.com/story/277

  189. Lyn Says:

    WHY did the Feds let JJ Jr know the arrest was coming? Was it a last chance to spill his guts?

  190. j.b. Says:

    190th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Okay, I give, what’s the Lucy in disguise reference?

  191. j.b. Says:

    WHY did the Feds let JJ Jr know the arrest was coming? Was it a last chance to spill his guts?

    That’s what I wanna know too! Could it be that JJJr. was part of a “sting”? Offer the $ on tape and so on? I have no idea……….Did anyone here read the whole affidavit?

  192. Lyn Says:

    JJ was #5 “someone” for JJ jr offered things. (was the someone Sr which is why HE got a Lawyer?) maybe even money upfront to prove they will help with campaign funds later. since Blago was burned by #5 beofre. (and apperntly Blago was burned by JJ before)
    I wonder if they called and gave him the heads up incase he wanted to come clean and/or be a witness deal. I thought it was odd he mentioned he was told early since now it makes people wonder WHY (and if anyone else was given a heads up)

  193. Foxtrot Says:

    I agree with j.b. I think Jackson Jr. may have been a part of the sting. The Feds don’t make it a habit of letting someone know in advance when they are going to arrest someone, unless they are involved in making it happen!

  194. Lyn Says:

    Foxtrot Says:

    December 11, 2008 at 7:35 pm
    I agree with j.b. I think Jackson Jr. may have been a part of the sting. The Feds don’t make it a habit of letting someone know in advance when they are going to arrest someone, unless they are involved in making it happen!

    I would think that too, except for Sr. getting a lawyer yesterday unless Jr set daddy up too

  195. Foxtrot Says:

    However, I would not put it past “Daddy Jackson” to have tried to broker such a deal and not tell Jr.! He might have thought he was being a good father, but heaven help him, if Jackson Sr. did do that!

  196. Foxtrot Says:

    Wait . . . was Jackson Jr. supposedly Obama’s choice or was it another “Senate Candidate” mentioned on the transcript?

  197. Foxtrot Says:

    Lyn — Jackson Jr would NEVER set up his father. They are too close.

  198. Troy Says:

    Foxtrot Says:

    December 11, 2008 at 7:38 pm
    Wait . . . was Jackson Jr. supposedly Obama’s choice or was it another “Senate Candidate” mentioned on the transcript?
    ———————————————————
    Valarie Jarrett was Obama’s choice for the seat

  199. Lyn Says:

    Foxtrot Says:

    December 11, 2008 at 7:38 pm
    Wait . . . was Jackson Jr. supposedly Obama’s choice or was it another “Senate Candidate” mentioned on the transcript?

    Valerie was Barky’s choice, altho I think probably at the beginning Bo promised his seat to JJ if JJ would support and work for his campaign

    I don’t think Jr set up daddy that is why i can’t see Jr being part of the sting and Daddy needing a lawyer

    unless Sr went to offer something and didn’t tell Jr

  200. Foxtrot Says:

    Thanks Troy!

  201. Lyn Says:

    and Valerie was Sen candidate #1 who withdrew

  202. j.b. Says:

    Please correct me if I’m wrong but, wasn’t it #5 (jjjr, right?) that the affidavit specifically stated was the one who had offered $500,000 “up front”……….? So, either he really did make the offer-for his own gains and purposes OR the feds had him act it out.
    Then as far as the lawyers go………well that does not make sense if jjjr was a part of the plan. Hmmmmmm.

  203. Foxtrot Says:

    Personally, if I were the Feds, the person I would like to ask questions of is Valerie Jarrett. She clearly withdrew here name because it was becoming a “sticky wicket” situation. I want to hear from her, just how sticky that wicket was!

  204. j.b. Says:

    This?

    $1 MM Reward 4 Obama Long-Form Birth Certificate / Video

    One Million Dollar Reward Offered For Certified Obama Long-Form Birth Certificate

    Secret of the Rosary Films is offering a one million dollar reward for the certified long-form birth certificate of Barack Obama.

    The long-form birth certificate must be certified by the U.S. Supreme Court.

    De-lish!

    * i was gonna say, “priceless” but, well, you know………..*

  205. Foxtrot Says:

    j.b — we need to be clear here. It said that someone representing Jackson Jr. was saying/doing all this—not Jackson Jr himself. That being said, it could have been Papa Jackson. As I said earlier, I would not put it past Jesse Jackson Sr. to be pissed enough at Obama to start wheeling and dealing for his son’s future.

    You are right though, either Jackson Jr. was a part of the sting for the Feds to funnel them information, or someone like his father may have been negotiating a deal, with or without his knowledge.

    I still go back to the phone call to Jackson Jr. before they arrested the Governor though. That simply was a slip of the tongue, I believe, for Jackson Jr to divulge that. I am sure the Feds cringed when they heard him say it. That simple phone call, to give him advance notice of the arrest, still smacks of Jackson Jr being involved in the sting operation.

    If I want to put my tin foil hat on, one could say that Jackson Sr only hired the lawyers, and let it leak out he did, so that no one would suspect he or his son were involved in the sting. After all, would you want to be known as a black man(men) who may potentially be responsible for bringing down the first President of color? Especially since that is Jesse Jackson’s entire life—promoting people of color! Food for thought!

  206. Lyn Says:

    Foxtrot Says:

    December 11, 2008 at 7:56 pm
    Personally, if I were the Feds, the person I would like to ask questions of is Valerie Jarrett. She clearly withdrew here name because it was becoming a “sticky wicket” situation. I want to hear from her, just how sticky that wicket was!

    She with drew because BO offered her a posistion, so once again it ties him in. Blag was pissed they didn’t offer anything but appreciation, which means he talked to someone.

    Yes JB JJr is the one that offered the 1/2 million or actually the testimony said some one for him,

  207. Foxtrot Says:

    Rosetta – Posts are getting slower and slower to post. Might want to move to a new thread here soon!

  208. Foxtrot Says:

    Lyn and j.b – we have to be careful here. It was someone on Jackson Jr.’s behalf that was making these negotiations/offers to the Governor, NOT Jackson Jr. himself.

    I still think he may have had something to do with the sting. Although, we will never know because of the very reasons I stated on my previous post.

  209. j.b. Says:

    Personally, if I were the Feds, the person I would like to ask questions of is Valerie Jarrett. She clearly withdrew here name because it was becoming a “sticky wicket” situation. I want to hear from her, just how sticky that wicket was!

    Okay, I think she may have withdrawn because Obama finally lamented and agreed to a demand on Blogo’s part (which then his choice would prevail) in the form of “payback” via giving Blago’s wife a job. But not until later or as Obama supposedly said, “Not until his fingerprints were untraceable” (paraphrasing) I just read that today, I think it was on td’s blog. Anyone else see that?

  210. Lyn Says:

    I still go back to the phone call to Jackson Jr. before they arrested the Governor though. That simply was a slip of the tongue, I believe, for Jackson Jr to divulge that. I am sure the Feds cringed when they heard him say it. That simple phone call, to give him advance notice of the arrest, still smacks of Jackson Jr being involved in the sting operation.

    Was he part of it? OR were they trying to give him a last chance to come clean, in which case he could work a deal and they could of put off arresting a little while longer

  211. Foxtrot Says:

    Yes, j.b, I read Texas Darlin’ too. Other articles suggest that Jarrett removed her name from the running well before an appointment was given to her. I still say she has something to tell. I don’t know her at all, but hope she would be honest if called upon.

  212. Foxtrot Says:

    Lyn said: Was he part of it? OR were they trying to give him a last chance to come clean, in which case he could work a deal and they could of put off arresting a little while longer

    ========================

    Could be, but that usually isn’t the way it works! There would be lawyers in a room, on either side of the table, negotiating what deal could be cut, not a phone call from the Feds. Besides, the Feds would not call Jackson, they would call his attorneys directly. My sister is an attorney and that is the way it works. Stilll leads me to believe it was a “courtesy call” from the Feds as a job well done for nabbing the Governor.

  213. Lyn Says:

    Okay, I think she may have withdrawn because Obama finally lamented and agreed to a demand on Blogo’s part (which then his choice would prevail) in the form of “payback” via giving Blago’s wife a job. But not until later or as Obama supposedly said, “Not until his fingerprints were untraceable” (paraphrasing) I just read that today, I think it was on td’s blog. Anyone else see that

    Obama himself did not say it, BUT his people supposedly wanted a 3rd party to give the job NOT a potus appt, so it would look better and not as traceable

    YES Fox I agree JJ JR did NOT offer anything himself, someone did for him, Now were there more than 1 someones?

  214. j.b. Says:

    j.b — we need to be clear here. It said that someone representing Jackson Jr. was saying/doing all this—not Jackson Jr himself. That being said, it could have been Papa Jackson. As I said earlier, I would not put it past Jesse Jackson Sr. to be pissed enough at Obama to start wheeling and dealing for his son’s future.

    Okay, yes, I recall that. I also recall jjjr explicitly denying he had anyone call……..so maybe Daddy did this on his own? Hence the lawyer gettin’.

    I still go back to the phone call to Jackson Jr. before they arrested the Governor though. That simply was a slip of the tongue, I believe, for Jackson Jr to divulge that. I am sure the Feds cringed when they heard him say it. That simple phone call, to give him advance notice of the arrest, still smacks of Jackson Jr being involved in the sting operation.

    Agreed. In fact I thought the very same thing (about the cringing).

    If I want to put my tin foil hat on, one could say that Jackson Sr only hired the lawyers, and let it leak out he did, so that no one would suspect he or his son were involved in the sting. After all, would you want to be known as a black man(men) who may potentially be responsible for bringing down the first President of color? Especially since that is Jesse Jackson’s entire life—promoting people of color! Food for thought!

    This I disagree with you on. Why, if you’re innocent and have the feds on your side, why would you choose to lawyer up?

  215. Foxtrot Says:

    Or, here is another scenario we have not discussed. Bear with me here! What if when Rezko “sang” he somehow implicated Jackson Jr. and Jackson Sr. The Feds then offered them both immunity if they became a part of their sting operation to get the Governor?

    (oops, had to put my tin foil hat on again, as this is going out on a limb . . .but not inconceivable!)

  216. Lyn Says:

    Foxtrot Says:

    December 11, 2008 at 8:07 pm
    Yes, j.b, I read Texas Darlin’ too. Other articles suggest that Jarrett removed her name from the running well before an appointment was given to her. I still say she has something to tell. I don’t know her at all, but hope she would be honest if called upon.

    Hasn’t Valerie been with the Obama’s longer than anyone (expcept Rezko and Ayers of course) SHe is the one that hired Michelle to work in Daley office that Obama had to meet with her to make sure she was good enough for Michelle to work for (before they were even married)
    She knows alot, probably were all the skeltons are hidden, but I think the only “truth” she will tell is the “Obama truth”

  217. j.b. Says:

    I know one thing, well two, this ain’t helping Obama OR his children! (memba Michelle saying that?)

    The other thing I know is, those cookies ain’t gonna bake themselves! Ahhhhhh, it’s 3:@#!$.

    bbl………………….

  218. j.b. Says:

    How long has Rezko been in the slammer? Is there any evidence that the Jackson(s) have ever had “dealings” with them?
    I mean, it’s plausible, possible, probable…………:)

  219. Lyn Says:

    Doesn’t Daddy already have a zillion Lawyers? So I guess he hired a defense one?

  220. Al Says:

    peppermintpatty777 Says:

    December 11, 2008 at 7:02 pm
    So much reading to do…

    I think Fox is asking some good questions… I like Gretchen more and more…

    Al, I will come out fighting…just give me a day or two. Your little bot self will just not know what hit you… on the ice dude!

    ************************************************************

    It’s good seeing you so upbeat today, Susan. Hope you’re feeling better. A far as your on ice challenge goes, my Coach said for me to be careful not to have you draw me into a stupid-penalty and thus give your team a power-play opportunity because you baited me into the penalty-box…so with so much at stake (the future of our country) I plan to keep my gloves on. Besides, why tangle with you and run the risk of being KO’d at center ice (speaking of which I hope you KO what’s ailing you so you can be back at 100% good health soon (America’s idea of “soon”–not Mr. Korir’s). Take care of yourself, Susan.

  221. Troy Says:

    Jarrett is a filthy Chicago scumbag like the rest of them

  222. Foxtrot Says:

    j.b. –Jackson Sr lives right down the street from REzko, Obama, Ayers, et al!

  223. Foxtrot Says:

    ROSETTA — WE REALLY NEED A NEW THREAD! THIS ONE IS VERY SLOW TO POST!

  224. rosettasister Says:

    Foxtrot Says:
    December 11, 2008 at 8:37 pm

    ROSETTA — WE REALLY NEED A NEW THREAD! THIS ONE IS VERY SLOW TO POST!

    ——————-

    Okay, Foxy!

    I’ll put up a new post and fill it in later.

    brb

  225. Foxtrot Says:

    Thanks Rosetta!

  226. amy Says:

    OK, you all are overlooking one other thing that might imply that jesse,jr was in on it.. The video I watched of Jesse, jr.. After discussing that he wasnt a party to the bribery, he suddenly became a little emotional and stated his little sister text-messaged him (the night before) and told him she was “proud of him”.. Proud of him, for what? Assisting the FBI? Telling on Gov. Blago? Hmmmmmm?

  227. ddlew Says:

    I find it rather telling that Obama, without knowing all of the facts, is telling Blago to resign publically.

    Maybe Obama knows a lot more than he says he does. Why would you demand a sitting Governor vacate his seat simply on allegations. He is innocent till proven guilty isn’t he?

  228. Foxtrot Says:

    Amy — good point! I keep coming back to Jackson Jr. somehow being in on the sting!

  229. amy Says:

    TY Foxy.. It is something I noticed right away.. It got me to wondering about it.. If he did that, he knows his chance of getting chosen would be none. Political people do NOT like snitches.. If he did that, then I would say he is one brave young man.

  230. Foxtrot Says:

    ddlew — Obama was receiving alot of pressure from his “team” to distance himself and renounce the Governor. Remember, everyone on his “team” is not in the inner circle for Obama. There would only be one or two who would know EVERYTHING (like Axelrod and Michelle). Therefore it would be logical for them to ask Obama to request the the Governor resign, very innocently in fact, because they would be unaware that the Governor holds anything over on Obama. This is common practice that most of your campaign staff are out of the “real” loop! In order to not look suspicious, and under pressure from the media as well, he went ahead and did it!

  231. Foxtrot Says:

    Amy – absolutely! From what I have known about Jackson Jr. he is an incredible young man. I pray he was on the Feds side of this! You are right though, if it EVER comes out that he was in on the sting, his career would be toast!!!

  232. amy Says:

    Yes, his life could be in danger too..

  233. ddlew Says:

    If it comes out that he offered to buy the Senate seat his career would be toast. So it sounds to me like he’s toast either way.

  234. Troy Says:

    amy Says:

    If he did that, then I would say he is one brave young man.
    ———————————————————–
    Please!!!…If he did that then he is simply playing a different angle to further himself….ALL politicians are self seving, corrupt, crooked scumbags!!!!!

  235. amy Says:

    And he would NO longer be a part of the Chicago Combine, losing all political clout there,

  236. rosettasister Says:

    New Thread:

    https://rosettasister.wordpress.com/2008/12/11/playboy-the-best-of-gene-and-debbe/

  237. j.b. Says:

    Barry Soetoro is not only a corrupt dirtyboy, he’s an illegal alien Indonesian. He’s not even an American at all.
    Berg and Corsi have Anne Dunham Soetoro’s divorce records from Lolo Soetoro. Indeed Soetoro adopted BARRY SOETORO which is still his legal name (since he never changed it) and he is still a citizen of INDONESIA and lost his American citizenship (if he ever had it, but never was natural born in any case) because by American Law he had to have asserted his American citizenship within 6 months of his 18th birthday, which he never did (USC 1483) and he traveled on an Indonesian passport at age 20 to Pakistan (or Po-kee-stahn according to Barry).

    Barry Soetoro is an Indonesian and ONLY an Indonesian. A “Barack Obama” was elected, only he does not exist. Barry lied redundantly about his real name. If he’d wanted to change his name, he could have done so eons ago but that would’ve acknowledged his Barry Soetoro-ness so he glided over that. He never reestablished his US Citizenship because it would’ve made new record of his Kenyan birthplace, so he glided over that too.
    Barry, you’re a piece of work.

    Corsi and Berg’s PIs were able to establish that Barry was never born in Hawaii; both Barry and Maya lied about his being born at Kapiolani or Queens Hospitals. See, Barry’s mother is deceased, so by law it’s acceptable to ask if she was ever a patient at any hospital in Hawaii; if she wasn’t then he couldn’t have been either. She was never a patient at any hospital in the entire state!

    Add it up: His grandma says he was born in Kenya, so does the Kenyan Ambassador, so does Bill Richardon (who says Barry is an immigrant), his COLB is badly forged, his sister’s name pops through on analysis, she also shouldn’t have one either because she was born in Indonesia, the State of Hawaii never said he was born there, Barry tried to get legislation passed to allow non-natural borns, Pelosi changed her authorization for Barry being “nominated” instead of “qualified”, Barry’s maternal grandma died under questionable circumstances, Maya’s been absent, Barry had spent $800,000 to fight Berg’s suit now he’s hired three lawfirms at $500,000 each to fight any natural born challenges, Barry hired the Kirkland lawfirm in 2006 to write arguments as to why the natural born requirement should be removed from the US Constitution, and Barry won’t splurge on a $10 fee to get his vault birth certificate for the courts to see. Not that that matters anyway. The divorce documents are OFFICIAL COURT DOCUMENTS.
    Barry Soetoro, our dirtyboy corrupt illegal alien Indonesian.
    pfffft

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