“An Exercise In Patience & Logic: The Obama Citizenship Question”

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chiyome-fukino

“Director Fukino, unable to carve out the words “originating from Hawaii”, “Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth” or even “derived from the Certification of Live Birth he has already released”…left her statement entirely bone dry.”

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-160646

Posted by: hankrand Cleveland, Ohio

EXCERPT

“So wait, if you say you believe the Certification is authentic…that should end it right there. It doesn’t matter what hospital it was or who the doctor was – the Certification says Hawaii and that ends it.”

Not necessarily. While the majority of time that’s probably true, it isn’t always. And “sometimes”, as it relates to eligibility of those who not only hold, but knowingly and willfully pursue our Presidency, is frequent enough to induce public reasonable doubt and legitimately seek the simple, outstanding closure that would remove it entirely. The statement in this link, http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0017_0008.htm , coupled with the statement in this link (that speaks to “amended certificates of birth”) http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/index.html , married to box “7e” from the Certificate linked at the beginning of this post – demonstrate there could very well be detail on a Certification, that does not necessarily denote “natural born” evidence on the Certificate.

I know it’s tricky, and some of you may already be lost. Those who claim there is no outstanding question here, will likely say “Yeah you lost us because you are WRONG!” I’m not. And I don’t know how to put it any more simply for you. If logic has escaped you thus far, please find the nearest adult and ask for their help.

What really made me stop and take 2nd thru “n”th looks at this…was Director Fukino’s statement. This is the statement from which so many base their claim that “the state of Hawaii said he was born there”. I’ll post it again, so you can read it in it’s entirety for yourselves:

Director of Health for the State of Hawaii , Chiyome Fukino: “There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai’i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record. Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai’i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai’i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures. No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawai’i.”

Factcheck, which like it or not, is not a governing body and in no way oversees or maintains any accountability or legal precedent on anything they post to their website, said of Fukino’s statement, “Department of Health confirmed Oct. 31 that Obama was born in Honolulu ” ( http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html ). That statement, from this website, demonstrates all too clearly that the website is neither non-partisan nor credible. Period. However, the media soon followed, and so did many of you.

But looking at the actual statement, hopefully you’re able to recognize why so many who note that the question has not been answered….walked away from that statement with no more answers than they had before it. I’ve speculated in the past that no statements had been released by the Federal Election Commission, Board of Elections or even the DNC, articulating their having properly vetted Mr. Obama, because they may not have done so. I noted that for them to inject themselves in to this matter, knowing it might someday be exposed that he actually defrauded his way in to power, would net too great of a long-term wound for them to risk. I said, “They would either have to lie on his behalf and put their own names on the line, or release entirely empty statements that really didn’t answer the question.” And then, after that, when this statement was released, it was easy for me to say, “See.” The statement, if read and comprehended with a fair and objective open-mind, only proves 3 things: 1) Barack Obama was born, 2) proof of that birth exists on paper, and 3) the Hawaiian Department of Health is in receipt of that paper. It said nothing of origin, which is interesting, because it was requests for proof of origin that were the purpose for releasing the statement in the first place.

I could tell you right now that I have a drink in front of me. Some of you would claim it’s moonshine or kool-aid, some would claim it’s truth serum. None of you could be sure though, unless I told you what it what it was and where it came from. You can draw all the conclusions you want, based on what you want to believe and my telling you it exists…but unless I tell you what it is, you have no way of knowing.

It’s water, by the way. Cold, clean water.

Director Fukino, unable to carve out the words “originating from Hawaii”, “Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth” or even “derived from the Certification of Live Birth he has already released”…left her statement entirely bone dry.

So, the question survived. It’s not lunacy. It’s not fringe. And it’s not proof of any guilt on Barack Obama’s part. It’s just fact. The question wasn’t answered.

Freeper Thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2145948/posts

Phil Berg Barack Obama Ron Polarik Jeff Schreiber

271 Responses to ““An Exercise In Patience & Logic: The Obama Citizenship Question””

  1. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    First??

  2. Foxtrot Says:

    Worth bringing over from the other thread:

    Foxtrot Says:

    December 10, 2008 at 3:50 pm
    PLEASE READ!!!!!! Okay, I know this is longer than a normal post but it is truly a “telling” comment from Linda Starr:
    ===============
    written by Linda Starr, December 10, 2008

    You’re asking for a legal document that proves Obama is in fact Barry Soetoro, a citizen of Indonesia? I have been telling you all the records were not sealed that prove Obama was legally Soetoro’s child. Some of you have been ridiculing me while I had to keep silent about the evidence. There’s more I can’t discuss here. I’ll tell you as soon as possible.

    Anyway, I can now tell you that Phil Berg & his Assistant Lisa acquired Barry’s mother’s divorce papers from Lolo Soetoro in which we see listed 2 children of the parties of the marriage, one over 18 and one under 18. We know Ann Dunham Obama Soetoro only had two children – Barry and Maya. Even in those days, a step child who was not the legal child of one party in a divorce would not be listed as a child of the parties of the marriage. They would either not be lsited at all, or be listed as a child from a previous marriage. Surely you do understand the legal difference? This is a legal certified court record. Like I’ve been telling you, not ALL the records of this man are sealed. When crimes are committed, there are always loose ends one can not go back and tie to prevent getting caught. There’s more he can’t seal before jan 20th, and we are after them.

    Let me explain to you now about why we know the PI hired by Corsi found out BO wasn’t born in either of the two hospitals he and his sister claim. His mother is deceased and her hospitalization records would not be sealed. We can’t ask if he was born there, but Cori’s PI could find out his mother was NEVER A PATIENT IN EITHER PLACE! If she wasn’t a patient, then he couldn’t have been born there.

    That means he and his sister LIED about where he was born because he was born in Kenya. it also says to me his sister supplied her COLB (she was a foreign birth in Indonesia and registered in Hawaii) for someone to forge. Someone got a copy of her COLB on June 7, 2007. Maybe even she got and altered it for her brother because it isn’t a very good forgery? TADA! The noose is tightening around the lies about BO’s birth and citizenship.

    His legal name is STILL Barry Soetoro, and he is a legal citizen of Indonesia since he was born in Kenya. And the big bombshell will be coming out in the next week. I strongly suggest you keep watching Patrick Fitzgerald for the next week. I can’t tell you what will happen, but I can tell you to watch him closely, especially in light of the arrests today of BO’s political buds.

    Phil Berg did not pull this suit out of thin air. The circle around BO’s lies is tightening. I believe he is going to be arrested very soon. He can’t very well be sworn in if he’s in jail in Illinois. Do you really think Chief Justice Roberts won’t put a stop to this nightmare? Or Scalia, Thomas, Alito, or Kennedy? I know what evidence Phil has acquired. I can’t talk about it, but it’s real.
    I wouldn’t be crowing with glee too loudly right now if I were some of you who has hurled insults and cast aspersions on me and Phil’s integrity.

    You’ve all had a grand time at our expense, but this is nothing to celebrate proving ourselves right. This is about our Constitution. Why do you really think Clinton and Biden haven’t resigned their senate seats yet? Do you think they know something about the truth the DNC is desperate to hide? Inquiring minds want to know.

  3. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    First time I’ve been first!

  4. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Blagojevich has his 52nd BD today… hmmm, he better enjoy this one! His atty says he won’t step down! What a scum bag. He wants to continue to draw that Gov. pay off the public of Ill. I wonder what Abe Lincoln, dear old Honest Abe would say about this Ill. cr@p going down? Abe must have been the last honest politician in the state!

  5. Foxtrot Says:

    Brought over from other thread:

    Hockey — of course Obama will try to snake out of it, as he always does. However, as I have said on numerous occasions, if Linda Starr says she has something BIG, she has something BIG! I can’t wait to find out what it is. She says we should hear this week. Interesting that she also says for us to watch Fitzgerald closely. Hmmmmmmm.

  6. hockeyfan530 Says:

    fox,

    where did you get the Linda Starr article? Is there a link. I’d like to frame this in my cube at work Thanks

  7. Foxtrot Says:

    Hockey — obamacrimes.com in the general comment section, page 16 I believe.

  8. hockeyfan530 Says:

    you know what else will be sweet if bambam is “dethroned”….watching the hollywood types squirm. Bruce Springsteen sulking away. LOL

  9. thinkingmom11 Says:

    You know – it was nice to read the entire statement from the HI official because it is a little hard to find in it’s entirety. It actually sounds to me EXACTLY like something Obama would have written himself – lots of words to sound like he is saying something when he is actually saying nothing…

  10. rosettasister Says:

    Polarik, whose findings are mentioned in above article, responds at Free Republic:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2145948/posts

    To: ckilmer
    while some alleged experts claim to have handily debunked the Certification as a forgery, there’s really no credible evidence of that. All you really have is their word.

    BOY, are you going to regret saying that.

    34 posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 6:10:34 AM by Polarik

    To: pallis

    You should, because no Presidential candidate before Obama has ever posted a false identification document on the Internet intended solely to defraud America before.

    35 posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 6:13:59 AM by Polarik

    To: Yaelle
    There is no proof Obama is NOT natural born, and no proof that he IS. That’s the problem.

    But there is proof that he committed Federal felony document fraud regardless of where or when he was born.

    36 posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 6:16:06 AM by Polarik

  11. Foxtrot Says:

    Seriously though, how can anyone see all this controversy surrounding Obama and not give it some credence? I wonder if SCOTUS is aware of all of this going on? If I were Justice Roberts, I sure as heck wouldn’t want to swear in Obama at the inauguration!

  12. sba1872 Says:

    Foxtrot,

    Thanks for that Linda Starr quote. I don’t know who Linda Starr is, but every time I see her name I think of the old comic strip, Brenda Starr, who was an ace reporter with flaming red hair. Will continue to follow Fitz and to be on the lookout for something BIG. Thanks again!

  13. Foxtrot Says:

    I thought this was an interesting post from No Quarter. It provides a different view of the real reason why alot of this corruption was going on. the Olympics is a HUGE revenue source for any city who is awarded it. Things are coming into focus . . . !
    =====================

    Comment by mel | 2008-12-10 11:08:01

    Questions become more obvious as to the answers with the release of Blago’s charges:

    1st- Who did Obama seek to take his Senate seat? Jarret!

    2nd-Who ratted out Blago? Daley’s people!

    3rd- What do Daley and his people, Harris and Jarret all have in common? 2016 Olympic Games for Chicago.

    Now what has the Olympic commitee stated as major concerns in having the Games in Chicago? Chicago has failing and poor infrastructure.

    What has Obama stated he will spend Billions on to rejuvinate in his stimulous package? Infrastructure.

    By Obama not having his choice or the chicago Combines choice sitting in his Senate seat weakens that much more the ability for Chicago to obtain pork belly money in the Billions from the Feds for infrastructure work needed to secure the 2016 Games. Blago telling people connected with Daley “fuck Obama’s choices for just an appreciation of thanks” was Blago’s nail in the coffin for him politically.

    Anyone thinking this isn’t about the big bucks of the Olympics not for Chicago, but for those in the Chicago Combine are fools. Everyone on Obama’s commitee for election to POTUS has millions to gain from the Games being in Chicago, most funded by the Feds.

    Will the MSM ever report on this, NEVER! Why because the MSM has millions upon millions at stake for their pockets if the Games are in Chicago, whereas if they are anyplace elese, their profits from the Games is reduced by 60%.

  14. Foxtrot Says:

    Thanks sba!

  15. Foxtrot Says:

    Gonna grab a bite to eat. Be back in a minute.

  16. rosettasister Says:

    “DUmmie FUnnies 12-09-08 (Fitzmas Not So Merry in the Blago-sphere!)”

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2145973/posts

    EXCERPT

    Makes you wonder how corrupt an Obama administration will be.
    [Ya think? Rezko . . . Blago . . . Oh, oh!]

    I smell Rove/Bush all over this….something stinks…
    [B.O. Plenty.]

    we are so stupid. . . .
    [No argument here.]

    He’s got hair that rivals John Edwards for its luster. . . .
    [Silky Pony-up.]

    He sure curses a lot.
    [Rod “(expletive)” Blagojevich would fit right in at DUmmieland.]

    “F***ing Senate seat and I don’t get anything”
    [Happy (expletive) birthday tomorrow, Blago!]

  17. Foxtrot Says:

    This actually did appear before the election, but the author was unaware of it. It merits posting though as it goes to show just how deceitful and dishonest Obama is, and how his word means absolutely nothing!
    ===============

    written by kenai123, December 10, 2008

    Richard Bauer, December 10, 2008
    This is a long and detailed read….. unfortunately it should have been made public 6 months or more ago………
    http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/10/26/the-obama-timeline-1961-2008/
    “1996-1997 Obama is elected to the Illinois State Senate in 1996; he takes the seat long held by Democrat State Senator Alice Palmer (also an official of the U.S. Peace Council, an affiliate of the World Peace Council, a Soviet front group), who agrees to let Obama run for her state seat only if she loses her bid for U.S. Congress; Palmer loses the Congressional primary, but Obama reneges on the deal and works with lawyers to get Palmer and three other opponents removed from the primary ballot on technicalities, in order to insure his opponent-free victory. On January 2, 1996, a group of Obama operatives descend on the offices of the Chicago Board of Election Commissioners to challenge, one by one, all the signatures on the nominating petitions of all of Obama’s challengers; they do not stop until Obama is the sole name on the ballot. [75,269] ”

    The above quote appears to set the stage for the pattern in which Obama thinks.
    You position yourself into a high stakes game, and then you cheat. Does that sound slightly familiar?

  18. Foxtrot Says:

    This actually did appear before the election, but the author was unaware of it. It merits posting though as it goes to show just how deceitful and dishonest Obama is, and how his word means absolutely nothing!
    ===============

    written by kenai123, December 10, 2008

    Richard Bauer, December 10, 2008
    This is a long and detailed read….. unfortunately it should have been made public 6 months or more ago………
    mensnewsdaily.com/2008/10/26/the-obama-timeline-1961-2008/
    “1996-1997 Obama is elected to the Illinois State Senate in 1996; he takes the seat long held by Democrat State Senator Alice Palmer (also an official of the U.S. Peace Council, an affiliate of the World Peace Council, a Soviet front group), who agrees to let Obama run for her state seat only if she loses her bid for U.S. Congress; Palmer loses the Congressional primary, but Obama reneges on the deal and works with lawyers to get Palmer and three other opponents removed from the primary ballot on technicalities, in order to insure his opponent-free victory. On January 2, 1996, a group of Obama operatives descend on the offices of the Chicago Board of Election Commissioners to challenge, one by one, all the signatures on the nominating petitions of all of Obama’s challengers; they do not stop until Obama is the sole name on the ballot. [75,269] ”

    The above quote appears to set the stage for the pattern in which Obama thinks.
    You position yourself into a high stakes game, and then you cheat. Does that sound slightly familiar?

  19. Foxtrot Says:

    I think the author meant to say, “only if she wins her seat for U.S. Congress” NOT “loses her seat for U.S. Congress”, but you get the drift!

  20. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Alice Palmer———>under the bus. Must’ve felt good – he keeps doing it!

  21. j.b. Says:

    “Director Fukino, unable to carve out the words “originating from Hawaii”, “Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth” or even “derived from the Certification of Live Birth he has already released”…left her statement entirely bone dry.”

    .ireport.com/docs/DOC-160646

    Posted by: hankrand Cleveland, Ohio

    Way to go hankrand, whoever you are! Finally, a clear, concise reasonable explanation. No one could argue with that. (yeah, riiiiiiiiight)
    Anyhoo, thanks for sharing that Rose…..! 🙂

    Good Morning, btw. (11:59)

  22. Foxtrot Says:

    I have got to scoot for back to back meetings today. I should be back late afternoon and will check in then. Have a good day everyone!

  23. sliderblaze Says:

    and i’m back pimps and pimpettes and those who fall in between.

  24. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Foxy said on previous thread: …Bambam will say something like “where i
    was born is unimportant. We need to focus on the issues”.
    +++++++++++++++++

    Foxy, he is the Presidential Deflect! Sorry, Troy–couldn’t help it…

    If all else fells, deflect, deflect, deflect. As long as you are deflecting nothing sticks!

  25. sliderblaze Says:

    Obama to Axelrod

    “sorry but, under the bus you go” “dont worry, i’ll keep my “back door” open for ya”

  26. sliderblaze Says:

    abcnews.go.com/Blotter/ConductUnbecoming/Story?id=6431739&page=1

  27. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Know what else is fairly absurd…how can ANYONE believe that a Senator from any State is not “close” with the gov. from that state!? Especially a gov. the sen. was instrumental in getting elected!? Talk about wishful thinkiing.

    How could anyone think that a Senator who is elected president (and therefore not leaving under a scandal) would not be intimately involved in selecting his replacement! Come on, now! This is just silly.

    The Obami is just as corrupt as any other Chicago politician. They got their reputation the old fashioned way – they earned it.

  28. sliderblaze Says:

    the sarcasm is thick with rush today

  29. rosettasister Says:

    Sources Say Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. is ‘Senate Candidate #5’ (BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!)

    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/ConductUnbecoming/Story?id=6431739&page=1

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2146210/posts

  30. thinkingmom11 Says:

    thanks for reminding me it is Rush hour(s)…

  31. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Fox news says President-deflect is distancing himself from Blagojevich—uhh, how can you distance yourself if you’ve never been close!

    No one has ever had any conversations Blagojevich. Solitary confinement would be the perfect accomodation for him! He wouldn’t miss any of the conversations he never had!

  32. sliderblaze Says:

    he’s flabbergasted that he didnt know about all his shady associations….lol, no waaaaay

  33. j.b. Says:

    Phil Berg did not pull this suit out of thin air. The circle around BO’s lies is tightening. I believe he is going to be arrested very soon. He can’t very well be sworn in if he’s in jail in Illinois. Do you really think Chief Justice Roberts won’t put a stop to this nightmare? Or Scalia, Thomas, Alito, or Kennedy? I know what evidence Phil has acquired. I can’t talk about it, but it’s real.
    I wouldn’t be crowing with glee too loudly right now if I were some of you who has hurled insults and cast aspersions on me and Phil’s integrity.

    OMG! Okay this gave me shivers! Please GOD in Heaven let this be true.
    Is this not fanastic? Why, yes, yes it is! Doin’ the Happy Dance, doin’ the Happy Dance. Whoo F*cking Hoo! (said in total Blago fashion to honor his birthday today, of course)

    Barry Soetoro huh? Well, well, well, I choose to believe.

    Oh and then there’s this;

    Why do you really think Clinton and Biden haven’t resigned their senate seats yet? Do you think they know something about the truth the DNC is desperate to hide? Inquiring minds want to know.

    Very good point, huh? Plus, somewhere I read about why Barry chose to step down from his Senate seat SO f*cking fast. (Happy Birthday, Blago) In fact NO ONE in history has EVER stepped down THAT fast, while waiting to be crowned, I mean, become President! It was said that it would allow him to be under the umbrella of (paraphradsing here) “You can’t touch this”!
    Anyone know what I mean? It was the closest he could be to having Presidential Immunity, without being the actual President. Annnnnnnnd, if he were to get busted while still a measly senator, well then, he was a true goner.

  34. sba1872 Says:

    From:

    therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/12/10/blagogate-did-obama-talk-with-blago-after-election/

    But wait! There’s more!

    “Blagojevich Meets with Obama to Address Budget Shortfall”

  35. j.b. Says:

    President-deflect

    Love it.

  36. rosettasister Says:

    “Ill. governor meeting with Obama today”

    http://www.connecttristates.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=217582

    Wednesday, November 05, 2008 at 10:39 a.m.

    CHICAGO, ILL. — Now that Barack Obama will be moving to the White House, his seat in the U.S. Senate representing Illinois will have to be filled.

    That’s one of Obama’s first priorities today.

    He’s meeting with Governor Rod Blagojevich this afternoon in Chicago to discuss it.

    Illinois law states that the governor chooses that replacement.

    There’s already been speculation about his selection…from Congressman Jesse Jackson, Jr. of Chicago’s south side who co-chaired Obama’s presidential campaign, to recently-retired state senate president Emil Jones, to the governor himself.

    It’s likely the governor will make his decision quickly so the new senator will get some seniority before newly-elected senators take office in January.

    Part of the timing depends on when Obama officially vacates his senate seat.

    KHQA’s Alexis Hunt is speaking with Illinois Senator John Sullivan today about his thoughts on that replacement process, his time working with Obama in the state senate, and if there’s a chance Sullivan might play a role in the Obama administration. Watch KHQA News at 5:00, 6:00 and 10:00 p.m. tonight to hear what he has to say.

  37. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Obama knew of the investigation and was maybe hoping Blago-yasnitch could make his appointment before getting busted…meaning he had to vacate his seat ASAP…I think his lie about not speaking to Gov.B when it was widly reported that he met with the Gov the DAY after the election is pretty huge. I guess he can claim it was his evil doppelganger…f****ing doppelgangers. (Happy Birthday, Governor!)

  38. sliderblaze Says:

    all this is absolute gold and sad

    like i said earlier, mancow was on F & F this morning and he asked if they actually read the entire complaint, they never answered yes but you could tell by the way he made the feel uncofortable when he mentioned obama has to be involved in here somewhere, they didnt read it, they were just spoon fed what people wanted them to say

  39. sliderblaze Says:

    washingtontimes.com/news/2008/dec/10/justices-to-mull-obama-citizenship-again/

  40. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    thinkingmom11 Says:

    December 10, 2008 at 5:09 pm
    Know what else is fairly absurd…how can ANYONE believe that a Senator from any State is not “close” with the gov. from that state!? Especially a gov. the sen. was instrumental in getting elected!? Talk about wishful thinkiing.

    ******************************

    TM, I think it truly proves the point that BO lacks wisdom and good judgement, if nothing else.

    If a kid in highschool surrounds himself with bullys and thugs and ne’r do-wells, what kind of trouble do you think is kid is headed for. I mean really, that’s one of the first signs that we are told to look for in a kid that might have started doing drugs!

  41. j.b. Says:

    “INTERESTING FACTS —–

    Some unreported stats about the 2008 election

    Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul , Minnesota ,

    points out some interesting facts concerning the 2008 Presidential election:

    -Number of States won by: Democrats: 20; Republicans: 30

    -Square miles of land won by: Democrats: 580,000; Republicans: 2,427,000

    -Population of counties won by: Democrats: 127 million; Republicans: 143 million

    -Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Democrats: 13.2; Republicans: 2.1

    Professor Olson adds: “In aggregate, the map of the territory Republican won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens. Democrat territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in rented or government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare…”

    Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the “complacency and apathy” phase of Professor Tyler’s definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation’s population already having reached the “governmental dependency” phase. “

    That. Is very interesting.

  42. sliderblaze Says:

    The wheels of the bus go thump-thump-thump.

    thats michelle malkin….

  43. j.b. Says:

    Wednesday, November 05, 2008 at 10:39 a.m.

    CHICAGO, ILL. — Now that Barack Obama will be moving to the White House, his seat in the U.S. Senate representing Illinois will have to be filled.

    That’s one of Obama’s first priorities today.

    He’s meeting with Governor Rod Blagojevich this afternoon in Chicago to discuss it.

    Illinois law states that the governor chooses that replacement.

    Muahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

    LMf*ckingAO! Happy Birthday, Governor Shame. Aw, heck, you too, Barry!

  44. j.b. Says:

    slider, I saw your post about Mancow! I forgot about him? Where is he working now? I jus’ love me some Mancow in the mornin’.

  45. sliderblaze Says:

    j.b.

    CHICAGO!!!!!!!

  46. thinkingmom11 Says:

    why is michelle under the bus?

  47. sliderblaze Says:

    no i stole that from her website mom

  48. j.b. Says:

    Hannity said that Barry’s name was mentioned in the affidavit 43 times! (or 45 or 47, I get my numbers mixed up sometimes, but you get my drift)

  49. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    afternoon everyone
    ______________

    foxy, from the local paper

    tribstar.com/opinion/local_story_344230837.html

  50. sliderblaze Says:

    so i guess it would seem the msm is already stating that they wont be suprised if blago sings and makes up lies about obama….

    gag, take d#@k out of mouth, the report…good grief

  51. j.b. Says:

    j.b.

    CHICAGO!!!!!!!

    slider, I get that! What station! lol!

  52. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I see…..She be drivin’ the bus.

  53. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I love the pix of Obama as a bus driver…

  54. j.b. Says:

    omg, that picture of Barry as the bus driver on MMalkin! Hilf*ckingarious.

  55. j.b. Says:

    Pinch, poke, you owe me a Coke, Mom!

  56. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I gotta run – have a f***ing great day! (You to Gov.!) hee hee I haven’t cursed like that in years – I feel like a ten year old sneaking in bad words behind my mom’s back… anyway, adios!!

  57. sliderblaze Says:

    mancow.com

  58. thinkingmom11 Says:

    one last thing – someone needs to suggest to JibJab to make a crazy video of Obama and all the people he has thrown under the bus – THAT would be golden!!! ‘Bye

  59. sliderblaze Says:

    ah, nice to see rush bring up the michelle obama’s job for his wife, nice, keep hammering that one home

  60. j.b. Says:

    Blogobama. 🙂 *per MM.*

  61. sliderblaze Says:

    metioned it to them, just now, good idea mom

  62. j.b. Says:

    Blagojevich was a strong proponent of Obama’s infrastructure stimulus plan, and presented a wish list of his pet projects:

    Already, Governor Rod Blagojevich has sent Obama’s office a “wish list” detailing nearly 300 construction projects in Illinois that are ready to begin immediately.The list includes improvements to I-57 in Williamson, Jefferson, and Franklin counties. The governor estimates the projects would provide about 1,700 jobs. Also on the wish list is improving Amtrak service across Illinois, including new service to Rockford and the Quad Cities. It’s estimated this project would create about 4,700 jobs.

    In light of the wide-ranging scope of Blagojevich’s extortion, is there any doubt that these construction projects would have aided Balgojevich in his corruption? With the power, through control of state agencies and boards, Governors will be the gate keepers of federal insfrastructure dollars. Corrupt governors will become more corrupt, and honest governors will be tempted to use this power for political purposes.

    Hmmmmmmmmmm? Hey, Chris Spittle Matthews! You and your buddy Keith going to chat it up about this, tonight? No, didn’t think so.

    * quote from Atlas Shrugs*

  63. jrinNC Says:

    j.b. Says:
    December 10, 2008 at 5:37 pm

    jb I see you picked up my comments posted on previous blog. I wish I could have put the map on for everyone to see. But again my cousin did not give me a link. Also, one thing that should have put on those stats in addition to the population of counties, was to put the number of counties. That map is overwhelming and with the number of counties it would have blown your mind. Believe me, there were an awful lot of red (McCain) counties as compared to very few blue (Obama).

  64. jrinNC Says:

    I just asked my cousin to send me the link for that info so hopefully everyone can see that map.

  65. rosettasister Says:

    Here is link from slider and others as well:

    “Justices to mull Obama citizenship again”

    http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/dec/10/justices-to-mull-obama-citizenship-again/

    “Why must it come Down to Popular V. Patriotic: The Obama Eligibility Question?”

    http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/84445

    EXCERPT

    By far our servicemen have the most to lose in their promise to uphold and defend the constitution. If they should tour in theater and return without incident they will have already lost time from their own private lives. Their families will lose precious time with their loved ones and their jobs, careers or callings will have been set on hold.

    Yet the highest possible loss faces every serviceman or woman 24/7, 365 days a year. They may at any time be asked to sacrifice their lives for this nation and its constitution. Some may be in harms way and have already suffered this loss even as I write.

    The question this raises must not go unanswered. Can we ask our young men and women to put their lives up to defend and uphold our constitution and not expect the Supreme Court justices to at least look at the Obama eligibility question? Can we at the very least ask our President Elect to provide certain proof that he is in compliance with our nation´s most important document as well?

    The answer to this question should be an unequivocal and resounding yes. It should be the “yes” of every citizen in the continental United States and not one of them should ever be referred to as the “fringe.” While it may be an insult to call any man a fringe case, it would rise to the level of sacrilegious to include our servicemen and women in that group.

    Since they may at any time be called upon to pay the ultimate price to uphold the constitution perhaps we should be asking their opinions about the matter as quickly as we can!

    http://drorly.blogspot.com/2008/12/corruption-of-media.html

    http://democratfreeblog.wordpress.com/2008/12/10/watching-obama-dodge-yet-another-association-issue/

    http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2008/12/10/the-washington-times-coverage-of-donofrio-and-wrotnowski-scotus-cases/

    http://usatodayadforobamarecords.blogspot.com/2008/12/down-goes-gov-blagojevich-does-this.html

  66. rosettasister Says:

    Obama calls for Illinois governor to resign

    http://www.examiner.com/a-1736484~Obama_calls_for_Illinois_governor_to_resign.html

  67. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    doing my own spy work…. giggle….. the tires that was on our suburban that was stolen the end of October just showed up on craigslist… kind of unusual tires so pretty sure it’s them..

  68. jrinNC Says:

    RE: Why must it come Down to Popular V. Patriotic: The Obama Eligibility Question?

    WOW Rose, what a great article. I am beginning to feel like we are the minutemen and Paul Revere. When something is worth fighting for it is always a few who continuously pursue it then watch out for the snowball to start rolling.

  69. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Obama says he hasn’t had conversations with Blag BEFORE or after the election! Wow, a senator that’s never talked to the governor of the state they represent…. Hmmm…. does Obama have a cigar in his future? Maybe someone should send Obama a copy of a sex ed guide before it’s too late!

    Actually, I think the ones that Obama is attempting to slip one in is none other than the USA and her good citizens!

  70. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    wonder why no one is talking about Axel’s relationship to Chicago Trib.–

    Rahm Emmanuel busts Blag.
    Chicago brings the story out first–
    Axelrod says, “I mis-spoke”

    Is there a skunk in the bunk?

  71. j.b. Says:

    doing my own spy work…. giggle….. the tires that was on our suburban that was stolen the end of October just showed up on craigslist… kind of unusual tires so pretty sure it’s them..

    lol. Good luck! You and slider could open up your own PI firm.

  72. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    You know if convicted, Blagojevich will be the 4th Illinois gov, in I believe 35 year to go to jail.

  73. jrinNC Says:

    Posted on Worldnet – by Janet Porter Faith2action

    w.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=83114

    Obama’s own Cabinet member: He’s ‘an immigrant’ – look at youtube

  74. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    j.b

    we have found other parts of the burb,….. cops aren’t doing anything…
    but these tires were kind of special….so might be able to acually link part with crook. plus we have photos of the burb showing these tires quite well.

  75. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    low opinoin of us even in India

    indianexpress.com/news/my-kind-of-town/396797/

  76. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Let’s see, if I were writing this story, I would write it that Chicago Trib is in the pocket of Axelrod–and the Obama machine. Tribs almost brought to bankruptcy, but on the day they announce this they also break the news on Brag.. a few days later the feds come out and “break the news” on national TV– in the background– Chicago Trib gets a deal, but then they are in the pocket of the Psycho anti-Christ President elect, and along with the Axelmania’s own PR firm, runs propaganda news for the PE.

    Time to adjust my hat–

  77. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    If I had the funds, I would have a 24/7 on sat. tv just like Obama did before the election. 24/7 explaining all the constitutional crisis as it unfolds. Too bad– the rebellion isn’t finacially wealthy –maybe we could huge overseas donations like O did– Obama, not O-prah–

  78. rosettasister Says:

    jrinNC Says:
    December 10, 2008 at 6:21 pm

    RE: Why must it come Down to Popular V. Patriotic: The Obama Eligibility Question?

    WOW Rose, what a great article. I am beginning to feel like we are the minutemen and Paul Revere. When something is worth fighting for it is always a few who continuously pursue it then watch out for the snowball to start rolling.

    ———————-

    I hope you’re right, jr!

    Actually, I found that article because I was looking for the article slider posted.

    Paul Revere and the Minutemen?!

    I wanna be in that number!

    Going out now to enjoy this beautiful day in the Valley of the Sun.

    We izza livin’ inna paradise!

  79. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Just heard the dems are trying now to paint Blago as psycologically impaired – let the discrediting begin… if he is crazy – he is crazy like a fox. Well, I guess maybe liberalism IS a mental disorder…hmmmm

  80. hockeyfan530 Says:

    dems paint blago as psycologically impaired? LOL Isn’t that the pot calling the kettle black?

  81. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    mom

    now that’s just crazy talk…lol

    not surprised,…. the spin is in….. bam bam’s camp will try to work this so anyone that points a finger at Bo is nuts

  82. hockeyfan530 Says:

    or better yet…isn’t that like bambam calling ANYONE a liar!

  83. jrinNC Says:

    Mom – glad u said liberalism IS a mental disorder – see following url:

    w.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56494

  84. jrinNC Says:

    Plus here is another one – last line in article really funny

    w.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81033

  85. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Hmmm wonder how the Colonel down in Raleigh is doing. May God show favor on the Colonel, and may God BLESS America and keep her strong and free for His purpose.

    Storming in the south–politically and meterologically! Tornadoes and rain…dee, dee, dee, dee, dee.

  86. inspirational1 Says:

    I kinda feel now that maybe the FBI knows something and is trying to set this up like Obama is involved in this corruption and bring him down instead of the Citizenship or eligiblity issue to avoid possible riots.

    If the people thought that he was deep in corruption than it would be taken different than if he was found ineligible by some lawsuit.
    People would riot as they thought it was the Republicans against their candidate.

    Even though I think Obama is definately not qualified. They might now be knowing more and wanted to bring in BLAGO and next will be OBAMA and his crew…

    This is getting tiring..way to much stuff and to many lies.

  87. Hank Rand Says:

    I’m glad to see this getting a little attention. I know it’s long as SIN…but like I said, I struggle to apologize for that. It’s important, and there’s so much misinformation – it takes a lot to sift through it all.

    Also, I have no problem telling you that in crafting this…I intentionally left several things out. I of course have my opinion, not only of BHO but also of what likely happened here. But all I tried to do with “Patience and Logic” was articulate for naysayers, that yes…a question does exist. And to cite the likely VERY credible work of Dr. Polarik, or other VERY likely theories about what happened…just wouldn’t play with that crowd of naysayers. So I stuck to fact; raw, hard, already-established fact.

    Thanks for posting it Rose.

  88. Foxtrot Says:

    j.b. — glad you liked the Linda Starr post! She is the linch pin with all of this.

  89. Foxtrot Says:

    Oh . . . I’m back. LOL!

  90. hockeyfan530 Says:

    hey, I’ll take anything that will keep bambam out of office. The citizenship, the corruption, too tall, lips are too purple and they’ll clash with the drapes, the name bambam is too close to Bambi so no other country will take him seriously…..whatever it takes. But i certainly would love some vindication so i can say naner naner naner to all of my friends that supported bambam. OH BOY would I LOVE to gloat for a few weeks! LOL

  91. inspirational1 Says:

    me too

  92. hockeyfan530 Says:

    fox, I was wondering how you responded since you were gone…but then you clarified it by telling us you were back…I thought I took something out of context again!

  93. Foxtrot Says:

    thinkingmom11 Says:

    December 10, 2008 at 5:32 pm
    Obama knew of the investigation and was maybe hoping Blago-yasnitch could make his appointment before getting busted…meaning he had to vacate his seat ASAP…I think his lie about not speaking to Gov.B when it was widly reported that he met with the Gov the DAY after the election is pretty huge. I guess he can claim it was his evil doppelganger…f****ing doppelgangers. (Happy Birthday, Governor!)

    ++++++++++++

    Mom, you are smarter than you think! The fact that Obama resigned his post as Senator earlier than any other Senator in history should tell us there was a reason why. Could that reason be that the Governor knew he was going to be indicted sooner than later, so he asked Obama to relinquish his Senate seat so he could appoint someone asap? Something to ponder. It doesn’t take much to connect the dots.

    Still catching up on postings.

  94. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    guess hank williams jr will be on plains tonight…

    also Hannity just said that bam bam is going to be sworn in with his full middle name

  95. Foxtrot Says:

    jrinNC Says:

    December 10, 2008 at 6:41 pm
    Posted on Worldnet – by Janet Porter Faith2action

    w.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=83114

    Obama’s own Cabinet member: He’s ‘an immigrant’ – look at youtube
    ================================

    Hi jrNC – I posted this a few days ago, but it is good to see again! If it wasn’t so serious, it would be laughable!

  96. Foxtrot Says:

    jrinNC Says:

    December 10, 2008 at 7:17 pm
    Mom – glad u said liberalism IS a mental disorder – see following url:

    w.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56494
    =====================

    Mom and jrNC – Do I have to send you both to the corner for a while? You know what I said about lumping a group of people all in one category as if they are of one mind! I am liberal, and there are millions like me who feel the same way about Obama. I’ll let it slide this time, but next time . . . you are out in the woodshed! 😉

  97. Foxtrot Says:

    Patty- I thought of you an hour ago when I was on my way to a Board meeting. I saw a big sign that said, “HAT SALE–50% OFF!”. Had to chuckle!

  98. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Sadamm Hussein Obama, President of the USA– what the hey–we know how Salami Hussein turned out–like a bad weiner in the fire… course he did so much horrible damage to humanity before he got roasted and toasted…

  99. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Foxy– I would of been on that like a beenie on Dennis!

  100. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    When Mom goes to the woodshed she needs to take bar of soap with her –her language has been full of those little —- things lately!

  101. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Oh, btw, the reason that avatars don’t change on the computers, and one sees one thing while another sees something else, you have to empty the page cache or history to get the new changes…

    it would be important to know if there were “clones” in here…

  102. rosettasister Says:

    Hank Rand Says:
    December 10, 2008 at 8:16 pm

    And to cite the likely VERY credible work of Dr. Polarik, or other VERY likely theories about what happened…just wouldn’t play with that crowd of naysayers. So I stuck to fact; raw, hard, already-established fact.

    Thanks for posting it Rose.

    ———————–

    Hank you’re very welcome.

    Glad you don’t mind.

    Ron Polarik will appreciate your comments.

    You should be able to post at will now.

    Rosetta

  103. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Aww shucks Rosie, don’t make Rand post at “will”, let him post here with us!!!

  104. hockeyfan530 Says:

    most of the articles i read are going off on how the conservatives are trying to tie blago with bambam. What is wrong with these people. Of course we are. Bambam has a track record of associations that conservatives and ,yes fox, some liberals simply won’t gloss over! It doesn’t take a smart kindergartner to connect bambam’s dots! WOW

  105. rosettasister Says:

    peppermintpatty777 Says:
    December 10, 2008 at 8:35 pm

    Aww shucks Rosie, don’t make Rand post at “will”, let him post here with us!!!

    ——————-

    I hope he will Patty!

    And it wasn’t just a one-post stand!

    hehe

    Rosie

  106. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Now Rosie, I could go somewhere with that “one-post” stand thing, but Mom is already on the way to the woodshed and I don’t want to accompany her there!

  107. rosettasister Says:

    peppermintpatty777 Says:
    December 10, 2008 at 8:38 pm

    Now Rosie, I could go somewhere with that “one-post” stand thing, but Mom is already on the way to the woodshed and I don’t want to accompany her there!

    —————–

    Actually, I have a very bawdy sense of humor.

    But don’t tell anyone!

  108. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Now Fox – maybe you and I have a different idea of what Liberal is…and as much as I love you, I have serious issues with much of the liberal doctrine.

    When I say liberal I mean big-spending, government-only solution seeking, anti-personal responsiblity, gun-controlling, politically-correct, God-hating, nanny-state, pro-abortion but anti-death penalty, tax-raising, anti-business, anti-free market politicians I don’t care what party they are from. If this is you, I’m sorry, I will respectfully disagree with you politically even though we are on the same team for this fight. 🙂

  109. Foxtrot Says:

    hockeyfan530 Says:

    December 10, 2008 at 8:35 pm
    most of the articles i read are going off on how the conservatives are trying to tie blago with bambam. What is wrong with these people. Of course we are. Bambam has a track record of associations that conservatives and ,yes fox, some liberals simply won’t gloss over! It doesn’t take a smart kindergartner to connect bambam’s dots! WOW

    =================

    Hockey, you can insert the word “conservative” for liberals as well in your statement. After all, Obama won with alot of Republican and conservative support too! From now on just say “some PEOPLE simply won’t . . .” Thanks!

  110. j.b. Says:

    ://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/
    Any Hillbuzz readers here? Funny stuff……..you gotta see the new picture of Barry. Front page.
    Oh can you guess what Blago’s charming wife recommends for reading this season? How ’bout, “How The Grinch Stole The Sen…..oops, Christmas!” Seriously, that was news recently. *eyeroll*
    Hillbuzz guys take her down a notch or two. Raow.

  111. Foxtrot Says:

    I have many Conservative and Republican Moderate friends who supported Obama, not only with their vote but with money as well! All types jumped on his bandwagon. Too bad they didn’t realize that the last tune they may hear on that bandwagon is the “Death March” because Obama’s candidacy is going to be done once the Gov sings.

  112. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Pep – it is fun in the woodshed!! Bring your hat and some fudge and it’ll be a party!

  113. Foxtrot Says:

    But Mom, that is not the true definition of “liberal”. Yours does not necessarily equate to others definitions. Just like many Liberals definitions of Conservatives being “narrow minded, gun-totin’, bible thumpin’, I’ve got mine mentality” is not the norm for others.

  114. hockeyfan530 Says:

    fox, I meant that some conservatives and some liberals won’t gloss over. I was just including you as a liberal that won’t gloss over his associations. Those damn commas!! LOL

  115. jrinNC Says:

    Oh please don’t send me to wood shed – I equate Liberals like that who are totally one sided. I don’t think anyone here who is a Liberal to be one sided – you, just like me, see both sides and only want to protect what our country stands for – no disrespect intended. Hey I am liberal at times too. But again I like to weigh both sides of the coin.

  116. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Fox – I dare say that MOST conservatives (maybe not your friends) who voted for Obama did it as a protest vote. McCain is no hero of the conservative movement and is pretty much despised by many of them. Most conservatives would like nothing more than to have the republican party reevaluate their values and the center-left seeking trend that some claim the party to be on. Not too many conservatives REALLY like Obama or anything he represents – they just didn’t want RINO’s like McCain and others claiming any more control of the direction of the party. There may have been some who were deceived by Obama and truly like the guy but most, meh, not so much. (That and they REALLY didn’t want Hilary in the Oval Office – and that is the truth.)

  117. Foxtrot Says:

    puma08.com/2008/12/10/guess-how-many-time-barack-obama-met-with-rod-blagojevch-since-november-4th-clue-it-was-more-than-once/

    Very good article about Obama meeting with Governor Blago. Caught in more lies!

  118. Foxtrot Says:

    Thanks jrin NC!

  119. Foxtrot Says:

    The point is, Mom, that it took one heck of alot of Republicans and Conservatives to get Obama to this place, as well as Liberals. There is much blame and ignorance to go around. No one party alone should be accountable for this debacle.

    Peace!

  120. Foxtrot Says:

    Thanks Hockey Fan! 😉

  121. Foxtrot Says:

    Of course, that being said, I hope that Howard Dean gets lawsuit after lawsuit thrown at them for not properly vetting Obama. I also hope that all of these SOS’s get prosecuted for ignoring the pleas of their citizens about the citizenship issue. This is bordering on ridiculous!

  122. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I was not a McCain fan….but i was anti-obama…so McCain got my vote
    i figure the flip side is also true…..how obama got those extra votes….

  123. thinkingmom11 Says:

    So now, since I defined what I think of as liberal can I use that word or would you like to suggest a different term. I don’t necessarily want to offend you, I like you personally Fox, but will not walk on eggshells to stay out of the woodshed.

    And if you could define what liberalism is to you that would be fine with me – I am all for learning and educating…

    PS I am not meaning to sound snarky and I certainly don’t want to get in a fight with you because I know I would loose. Please take what I am saying in the spirit it is intended – if you can teach me something, I am sincerely willing to learn. But don’t expect me to back down from what I believe in simply because you disagree 🙂

  124. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Mom

    how you are dicribing liberal is how I define radical liberal…. the extreme side of the coin

    speaking of coin that was my 2 cents 🙂

  125. Foxtrot Says:

    This comment on another blog just cracked me up! I just had to share it!
    =================

    Comment by Mr. X | 2008-12-10 15:40:56

    I am SHOCKED!!! SHOCKED I TELL YOU! Obama throwing Blagojevich under the bus??? I must say I never saw that one coming. This bus must have monster truck wheels.

  126. thinkingmom11 Says:

    JAC – yes I do mean the extremists to the left (and for what it is worth I think the rabid libertarians are pretty ridiculous too!) Is there a better term for that? I don’t know of one….I am open for suggestions

  127. jrinNC Says:

    Hey, everyone – I don’t think any of us here are so against each other’s party. I am sure each and everyone of us are totally outraged how so many people were duped. We are here fighting for one cause. I had a relative tell me that the defense dept should have a bake sale to build a bomb. Those are the kind of people who have major mental issues. That was very hard for me to say because that relative was my brother and he said some very unsavory things to me regarding my opinion of Obama. Claimed I was being a bad sport because my team lost – when that actually had nothing to do with it (MY TEAM – DUH!!!!) and that I needed to grow up. It was the MAN that turned me and his secretiveness. That is what we all are in agreement with here.

  128. Foxtrot Says:

    Mom, I am a firm believer in speaking your mind. Just always know that there are those who will not agree with you. I am not into “labels” and try desperately to avoid them. We are all individuals within our own “groups” and I try not to peg everyone in YOUR group or MY group as being or feeling exactly as I do or you do. We all bring our own life experiences, thoughts, feelings into every decision and association we have. That is simply human nature. Therefore, we all (meaning groups of people) couldn’t possibly all think the same about any issue. Lumping people together in one category and thinking they all feel/act the same way is a mistake—one I learned the hard way. For what it is worth.

  129. Foxtrot Says:

    If we are talking about the citizenship issue or those others who have blinders on when it comes to Obama, I feel it is more appropriate to say “Obamanuts” or “Obots” as clearly these people are of one like mind on this issue, as is evidenced as to how they blindly support him.

    You know I loves ya’ MOM!

  130. Foxtrot Says:

    JAC — thanks for the newspaper link. I know Stephanie Salter. I am surprised she wasn’t more voracious about defending Obama. She was a big supporter. Maybe she is hedging her bets!

  131. Foxtrot Says:

    So . . . how ’bout those Vikings! hehe!

  132. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    all parties are harmed by BO…

  133. Al Says:

    peppermintpatty777 Says:

    December 10, 2008 at 4:00 pm
    First??

    *************************************************************

    Congratulations, Susan. Off to catch up with the other posts…things are beginning to get interesting as Mr. Obama has dared to go public today, encouraging/demanding Governor Blagojevich to resign…something tells me that Mr. Obama may be running the risk of “waking up a sleeping dog” if he isn’t careful with Governor Blagojevich. This seemingly minor spat could evolve into a full scale brawl.

  134. Troy Says:

    thinkingmom11 Says:

    December 10, 2008 at 9:09 pm
    JAC – yes I do mean the extremists to the left (and for what it is worth I think the rabid libertarians are pretty ridiculous too!) Is there a better term for that? I don’t know of one….I am open for suggestions
    —————————————–
    Libtards

  135. hockeyfan530 Says:

    Yeah, bambam throwing someone under the bus! UNBELIEVABLE?

    What’s next? Is he going to lie about an association? or Stutter and stammer?

    He must be tired because this just doesn’t sound like the man i knew during the election!……

    Oh, wait a minute, that’s EXACTLY the man i knew during the election…never mind

  136. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Fox

    i was actually surprised….. she got about 50% right….. which is better than most coverage and she kept the insults to a minimum

  137. Foxtrot Says:

    Me too JAC! Because, trust me, she is so Pro Obama! I sit on a Board in the community with her.

  138. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Mom
    you could call them extremist or like Fox said just simple obots…. because they drank gallons of that sickening kool-aid….

    plus this long ago quit being about party,..and became about personal agendas.. all goverment at the moment has became a flip flop mess

  139. Foxtrot Says:

    Very well said, JAC! Still love you MOM!

  140. hockeyfan530 Says:

    fox,

    why do you think H.Clinton didn’t go after the citizenship issue more? Or his associations? Or any of the multiple dirty tib bits about bambam? during the primaries? I know why the DNC didn’t. But hillary? Do you think she was told/asked to stand down?

    As for McCain and the RNC I have no clue why they weren’t more aggressive!

    I mean there is a LOT of dirt out there that’s fairly easy to follow up on.

    Any thoughts?

  141. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Oh i heard that reported from the chicago newspaper that compared us to terrorist got some serious heat over that article

  142. Foxtrot Says:

    Very gutsy of Obama to ask the Governor to resign! I am quite surprised at that. I know he got pressure to do so, but this puts the Governor on the defensive. Obama better watch it . . . if the Gov gets too pissed, he will start spilling! From what I know about Blago, he is the type to sing all his secrets to protect himself. I think Obama probably figures he was going to tell all anyway, but is hoping no one will believe him.

  143. Foxtrot Says:

    Hockey, on one of my very early posts several months ago, I answered this question, but it bears repeating.

    This subject, I am told, was brought to her attention. However, her campaign could not get concrete evidence at that time. They also went to the DNC and asked if they knew anything about it and they told her campaign “no”. Later, when the DNC & Hillary were being bombarded by voters about this issue, the DNC told Hillary to tow the line and drop it. She had no proof, so until she did, she needed to drop it. It was only later, when Berg and others got proof, it was too late as Hillary had lost the primary. That is what my friends at the DNC have told me.

  144. Foxtrot Says:

    I can assure you, if Hillary had the evidence it would have been used by her!

  145. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    fan,

    i read weeks ago that obama and hillary had a secret meeting with people they shouldn’t of been meeting with…So both hold an Ace card that can’t be played.
    if Hillary was tricked into the meeting, I have no idea….. but if this story line is true, it does make pieces fall together…

    Sorry Fox I am not a fan of Hillary but I admit that her being tricked into a situation that causes her to be mute on bam bam does seem extremely possible, given the dirty ways bam bam works.

  146. Foxtrot Says:

    JAC – my source is accurate and on the inside.

  147. hockeyfan530 Says:

    so do you think there are people, other than bambam and those closest to bambam, that know the whole truth? Maybe some smaller fishes that know the whole truth?

  148. Al Says:

    Yes, agreed, Foxy, an intense game of matching wits is taking place between the Blagojevich and Obama/Alexrod camps, and the party that dares to strike first knows that their initial blows had better be more potent than a jab, otherwise they run the risk of being KO’d by a barrage of counter punches. Bring on the popcorn…Obama decks Blagojevich or will it be Blagojevich stuns Obama?!

  149. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Fan

    bam bam’s inner circle has dug up so much dirt on anyone who could possibly come forward that unless they see the empire of bam bam truly falling they will not come forward….. that’s my opinoin

  150. Foxtrot Says:

    hockey – Yes, there are smaller fishes and medium size fishes that know. My friend is one of the “muckity mucks” in the DNC. He has never given me wrong information. He owes me and I owe him. As I said to JAC, my information is most assuredly true and accurate.

    The whole reason I did my own research on this subject was to make sure that the candidate that I had supported wasn’t somehow wrapped up in this conspiracy. My friend at the DNC allayed my fears with his responses. He was a big Obama fan, so he had nothing to gain by lying to me. Besides he has never lied to me in the 20 years I have known him.

    The DNC screwed Hillary and committed horrible acts of sexism and fraud against her. They wanted Obama from the get-go and they would stop at nothing to make it so. I also find it interesting that the tagline that the DNC was using behind closed doors was that Hillary was “polarizing”. LOL!!! I bet they are rethinking who is polarizing now!

  151. Lyn Says:

    http://www.myfoxstl.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8043827&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1
    CHICAGO (AP) — A spokeswoman for Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich says one of his top aides has resigned.

    Spokeswoman Kelley Quinn on Wednesday said Deputy Gov. Bob Greenlee resigned. The reason for his resignation wasn’t immediately clear.

    Greenlee’s resignation comes a day after Blagojevich was arrested on federal corruption charges.

    Greenlee was promoted to be a top aide to Blagojevich in June, replacing former Deputy Governor Sheila Nix. Greenlee had been a top administration aide previously.

    State records indicate the 33-year-old Greenlee lives in Chicago and earned $149,000 a year.

    (freeper says he is Sen candidate #4 but not sure where that came from)

  152. Lyn Says:

    December 10, 2008 at 9:47 pm
    myfoxstl.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8043827&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1
    CHICAGO (AP) — A spokeswoman for Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich says one of his top aides has resigned.

    Spokeswoman Kelley Quinn on Wednesday said Deputy Gov. Bob Greenlee resigned. The reason for his resignation wasn’t immediately clear.

    Greenlee’s resignation comes a day after Blagojevich was arrested on federal corruption charges.

    Greenlee was promoted to be a top aide to Blagojevich in June, replacing former Deputy Governor Sheila Nix. Greenlee had been a top administration aide previously.

    State records indicate the 33-year-old Greenlee lives in Chicago and earned $149,000 a year.

    (freeper says he is Sen candidate #4 but not sure where that came from)

  153. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Fox

    yes I think Hillary was screwed over by DNC….

    always said DNC had this plan in the works for years they just need the right pretty speaking empty suit to pull it off

  154. Foxtrot Says:

    JAC — you got that right about the “fear” factor. What the DNC didn’t count on was Obama going rogue on them! Once the DNC had eliminated Hillary in the primary for him, Obama and Axelrod pushed the DNC out of “the loop” with their campaign. They could not control him after that.

  155. hockeyfan530 Says:

    fox,
    so your friend “WAS” an Obama supporter? Is he still and if not when did he say enoughs enough?

  156. hockeyfan530 Says:

    sounds to me like there are A LOT of people that could help bring bambam down

  157. Foxtrot Says:

    He was during the time of the campaign but now knows even more than he is telling me. He thinks Obama will go down as “there is too much out there to incriminate him”. One can only hope!

  158. hockeyfan530 Says:

    good to hear. Thanks for letting me pick your brain

  159. Foxtrot Says:

    You are welcome, hockey.

  160. hockeyfan530 Says:

    now what’s the airspeed velocity of an unladened swallow? 🙂

  161. Lyn Says:

    Nothing against your friend, but what took him so long to see what many of us figured out during the primaries? Heck if a 40 something year old house wife like me could google Obama/rezko ect it wasn’t well hidden.
    BUt I am very glad to have you here, this IS the best Blog

  162. Troy Says:

    It is officially snowing here in Houston, Texas….It happens about every 15 years or so.

  163. Troy Says:

    hockeyfan530 Says:

    December 10, 2008 at 10:18 pm
    now what’s the airspeed velocity of an unladened swallow?
    ————————————————————
    Larry Sinclair could answer that.

  164. j.b. Says:

    December 10, 2008 at 10:18 pm
    now what’s the airspeed velocity of an unladened swallow?
    ————————————————————
    Larry Sinclair could answer that.

    Dang it, Troy! That’s just unnecessary nastiness!
    eeeuuuuwwwwwwww, squared.

  165. Tenacity Says:

    Troy,

    I am LMAO!!!!

  166. Troy Says:

    Hehehe

  167. j.b. Says:

    It is officially snowing here in Houston, Texas….It happens about every 15 years or so.

    Careful, I think lightening might be next.

    Just sayin’.

  168. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    wonder what hank williams jr will be talking about on plains tonight

  169. Troy Says:

    Will God smite thee for the Sinclair remark?…Grrrrrrrrrrr

  170. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Troy… look at Mo….. she’s kinda manish……. lol probably what turns bam bam on

  171. jrinNC Says:

    jrinNC Says:
    From Previous Post = December 10, 2008 at 1:49 pm

    Citizen Wells reports – “Lt Col Donald Sullivan, TRO, NC Electors, Temporary Restraining Order, Stop NC Electoral College vote, Judge Baddour, Wake County Superior Court, Raleigh NC, December 10, 2008 –

    Lt Col Donald Sullivan will appear in Wake County Superior Court, Raleigh NC, on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 with his TRO, Temporary Restraining Order, to attempt to stop the Electoral College vote in NC until Barack Obama’s eligibility can be confirmed. Lt Col Sullivan is scheduled to appear before Superior Court Judge Baddour at 2:15.”

    ************************************************

    Judge Baddour has just denied Col. Sullivan’s request for a temporary restraining order, stating that Col. Sullivan showed neither a likelihood of prevailing nor irreparable harm.

  172. Troy Says:

    Judge Baddoder can just bite it!!!!

  173. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    that sucks
    but nothing is going to stick at a state level

  174. Troy Says:

    It’s time to start voting out and impeaching judges.

  175. rosettasister Says:

    From http://freedommarch.org/

    http://freedommarch.org/Wild_Day.php

    Wed 12-10-08

    Tape Status

    Am moving fast. No time for an audio entry. Our radio reach will soon be HUGE. Had a meet this morning with some movers and shakers in DC. We’re gaining big-time traction. Will report as I’m able to release more info.

    Press Conference tapes have a tech hiccup. (Mine do.) I flew out of the press conference to Fed Ex the tapes for processing and production by Overnight AM.

    http://www.lanlamphere.com/public/

    (Lan has a giant professional video processing facility.) The DVDs needed to be “finalized,” and only the camera can do it. Blame operator error. So a slight delay in my personal vids.

    The official professional vids recorded by the NPC should come online today. Am working on it.

    Must catch a flight. It’s been the most productive 3 days in my life. Will have shows about it. Thanks to everyone for their support. FM.org shall become highly-capable and influential. Listen to last night’s radio show here. (Click Tues)

    http://www.plainsradio.com/show.html

    [audio src="http://www.plainsradio.com/Tuesday/Voice%2012-2-08.mp3" /]

    Will upload radio shows to this FM site as soon as possible.

    Joe

  176. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    we need to have a long memory of what these judges, senators etc do..

  177. jrinNC Says:

    A top aide to Ill. Gov. Blagojevich resigns – Deputy Gov. Bob Greenlee resigned

    w.salon.com/wires/ap/us/2008/12/10/D9501J480_illinois_governor_aide/index.html

    Wonder how many more there will be???????????

  178. rosettasister Says:

    “Four Main Cases, One Tough Road”

    http://www.americasright.com/2008/12/four-main-cases-one-tough-road.html

    Wrotnowski v. Bysiewicz.

    Keyes v. Bowen

    Lightfoot v. Bowen

    EXCERPT

    Berg v. Obama

    Unfortunately, it is and has always been a long-shot, despite what I believe to be a clear and vitally important constitutional question. Keep in mind that, under the second, third and fourth scenarios, significant public exposure would be given to the case and to Berg’s allegations. Regardless, it is a tough road down which to travel, nearly any way you look at it.

    Berg, however, still remains positive.

    “Am I optimistic? Absolutely,” he said. “One way or the other, we’re going to get to the bottom of this. One way or the other, the truth will come out, and he will not take office as president of the United States.”

    Posted by Jeff Schreiber

  179. Lyn Says:

    jrinNC Says:

    December 10, 2008 at 10:52 pm

    I posted above that a freeper says he is Sen candidate # 4 but I don’t know his source

  180. Lyn Says:

    Obama must have been real busy today, why are all these people coverring for him?

    what BS
    connecttristates.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=233822
    KHQA TV wishes to offer clarification regarding a story that appeared last month on our website ConnectTristates.com. The story, which discussed the appointment of a replacement for President Elect Obama’in the U.S. Senate, became the subject of much discussion on talk radio and on blog sites Wednesday.

    The story housed in our website archive was on the morning of November 5, 2008. It suggested that a meeting was scheduled later that day between President Elect Obama and Illinois Governor Blagojevich. KHQA has no knowledge that any meeting ever took place. Governor Blagojevich did appear at a news conference in Chicago on that date.

  181. j.b. Says:

    hillbuzz.wordpress.com/

    Hillbuzz has a compiled list of the #’s in the affidavit-don’t know how legit it is, but these guys are Chicagoans and seem to have some connections. imo.

    I don’t know if any of you read there, anyone see the little tidbit (awhile ago) about Rahmbo being one of the regulars in Boys(gay)town?………..not that there’s anything wrong with that. BUT he IS married!

  182. Lyn Says:

    Hillbuzz also has the guy that resigned today as #4

  183. Troy Says:

    I don’t know if any of you read there, anyone see the little tidbit (awhile ago) about Rahmbo being one of the regulars in Boys(gay)town?………..not that there’s anything wrong with that. BUT he IS married!
    ————————————————————-
    They have mentioned many times that the (lmao) ex- ballerina, Rham Emanuel was a regular at the Boy’s Town night clubs.
    Hmm, imagine that, a freakin male ballerina is a regular in Gay Town….Who would have ever thought it?

  184. Al Says:

    Thanks for the link, JB. Headed over to hillbuzz to sort out a preliminary view of things (thanks for the honest disclaimer about how accurate they may or may not be).

    Good post, Lyn about (KHQA-TV). Interesting how quickly people “forget” exact dates and times when they want to cash in their chips in the game of high-stakes–whatever happened to standing faithfully behind one’s original content?!

  185. rosettasister Says:

    I copied this article above, but a Freeper got a screen capture before it was scrubbed:

    “This link and article have also been removed. The media again covering for Obama.”

    “But not quick enough”

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2146464/posts?page=93#93

  186. Al Says:

    Nice snag, Rose! And not a moment too soon because the scrubbing has only just begun…

  187. Foxtrot Says:

    Lyn Says:

    December 10, 2008 at 10:20 pm
    Nothing against your friend, but what took him so long to see what many of us figured out during the primaries?
    =========

    Lyn, you have to understand. When you are in the thoroughs of a campaign you eat, sleep and drink it. You only associate with other people on the campaign and you only go home to sleep. All the “opinions” you have are “like thought” and you become clueless as to what is really going on around you. By the time my friend had enough of his friends, like me, asking him to check into some of this stuff, the damage was done. It is a different world of 100 hour work weeks, little or no sleep, and the biggest adrenaline high in the world. God I miss it!!!

  188. Foxtrot Says:

    Another good blog entry by Linda Starr –

    written by Linda Starr, December 10, 2008

    I can not discuss this information. Phil & Lisa have it and Lisa verified it to her satisfaction. Lisa is a very no-nonsense person. Threats have been made to the experts. I believe it because of our experiences in dealing with exposing so many GOPers and Bush crimes and scandals. I have no doubt that has actually happened and they faced retaliation. Their identies are being kept private, but I do understand the court has them in exhibits of evidence.

    I would like to mention that the more Phil & I are attacked, the more donations are made. I think people don’t like the patent unfairness and endless lies, obfuscations, propaganda and paid posters attacking us night and day. So keep it up blackman. You are defintely helping our cause expotentially.

    Here’s the thing no Obama Troll can answer. How could anyone explain how a digital scan of the COLB on BO’s website possibly have his sister’s name magically appear in the digital imprint unless the document posted had been altered? There are evidentiary things I can not discuss or reveal.

  189. Lyn Says:

    Fox, Thanks as a life long Dem I will NEVER forgive the DNC for this mess.

  190. Foxtrot Says:

    Lyn – I will never forgive Howard Dean for this! What a Schmuck!! The DNC is only as good as it’s leader. I am hopeful for someone better in the future. My Democratic principles are still unwaivered.

  191. j.b. Says:

    Another good blog entry by Linda Starr –

    written by Linda Starr, December 10, 2008

    Thanks for bringing that over here. I support Berg 100 percent and for whatever reason, I do believe Linda Starr. BUT.
    I cannot stand their website! It is a friggin’ vortex…………………ugh. I go there with the intention of reading. !0 seconds later-I’m gone.

  192. susiezen Says:

    hello out there, just curious what your site is about rosettasister. Ive had it over there at api. way too much. didnt realize the length of the dishonesty. im like a puppy with my tail between my legs. I held out far too long, and im a fool for it. so im up for air, looking for something real and productive. I have to make up for completely wasted time. I could let my words rip like a sailor about that man, but Ill learn and move on. the sad thing is that there may be some out there that might feel worse than I do, I wasnt the only one who hung my heart out there. i applaud you rose for getting out when you did….take care. If I can help, please let me know..susiehudson/zen

  193. Foxtrot Says:

    I couldn’t believe my ears! I was flipping through the cable news programs and was about to skip right past MSNBC, but someone caught my eye. It was Bill Ayers on Hard Ball with Chris Matthews. I only heard one line and it was out of Chris Matthews mouth . . . “You are not the same guy you were with the Weather Underground–you have changed!” It was stated in a “wow you are a nice guy” kind of way. Unbelievable! Now Chris Matthews thinks Ayers is a good guy too.

    Well, we know if we need a character reference, we should NEVER go to Chris Matthews!

  194. Foxtrot Says:

    j.b. -LOL! It is a vortex of hate and discontent! I only go to check for a few minutes at a time, otherwise it gets too depressing. the Obots have really invaded that website. Berg must really be touching a nerve!

  195. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    susiezen

    Welcome to Rosey’s.. best blog on the net… 🙂

  196. Foxtrot Says:

    Welcome Susiezen- I think most of us were at API at one time or another, so don’t feel bad. We all felt duped as well. We now know Korir is a complete fraud and have found a great dialogue here at Rosettasister. We may have differing opinions but people are usually very respectful. We also have alot of fun too! Most importantly, we provide alot of good information to anyone who comes to this blog. We all do our homework and provide good, solid information. Hope you enjoy it as much as I do.

  197. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Fox

    well it’s partly the blame of the media……. they only seem to want to mention Burg’s case

  198. Foxtrot Says:

    I agree JAC!

  199. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    susiezen

    i kind of think of us as that crowd that gather at the favorite diner…
    a lot of GOOD info gets passed around, and we can still have fun.

    there is only a few no no’s…. respect other bloggers is the main one….

    the other two……. well….. don’t use the term PE or President Elect in front of Troy…… and don’t dis Hillary to foxtrot……lol

  200. lyn Says:

    Foxtrot Says:

    December 11, 2008 at 12:07 am
    and don’t forget Lovely Donaa “Hillary supporters are vile” Brazille. are the rumours trues she may get Howies’s job?

  201. Foxtrot Says:

    Oh brother. The plot thickens!
    _____________________

    How the Cookie Continues To Crumble… Jesse Jackson Sr. Retains Legal Counsel…
    December 10, 2008 by PUMA Pundit
    Except someone is silenced (permanently), this chain is going to lead to Barack Obama, this is an undisputable fact…

    Anyway, the latest coming out of NBC Chicago:

    In two other interesting developments Wednesday, NBC Chicago learned that Jackson Jr. was given a phone call from the U.S. Attorney’s Office the night before the governor was taken into custody, advising him that the arrest was imminent. Also, the congressman’s father, Jesse Jackson Sr., has retained legal counsel following the Blagojevich arrest.

    Guess why? Who do you think the “emissary” referenced here is?:

    According to the criminal complaint, on Oct. 31 Blagojevich was overheard saying of Candidate 5, “We were approached ‘pay to play,’ that, you know, he’d raise me 500 grand. An emissary came. Then the other guy would raise a million, if I made him a senator.”

    Clue, he shares a name with #5.

    Incidentally, the Jacksons are no strangers to pay for play tactics or shakedowns:

    Noah Robinson, Jackson’s half brother, was the principle beneficiary of Jackson’s Coca-Cola shakedown. Jackson successfully strong-armed the Cola giant to award lucrative distributorships to minorities. The recipients were once again those associated with his non-profit supporters. I am certain that all of Robinson’s fellow inmates (it seems he was sentenced to life imprisonment for hiring gang members to kill three business associates) are especially appreciative of Jackson on those hot, humid days of summer. After all, time “goes better with Coke.”

    Posted by PUMA Pundit

  202. Foxtrot Says:

    Lyn — yes, I am told Brazile can have it if she wants it. However, if this crap comes out about Obama, she might not have that option anymore.

  203. Foxtrot Says:

    JAC – I love ya! (in regard to your comment to Suzie) LOL!

  204. lyn Says:

    but of course NONE of this was know about Obama’s “friends” before this week right? But what size undies the Palin kids wore is probably known in every “news” room. Disgusting

  205. Foxtrot Says:

    Interesting post on another site:

    Comment by Buzz Latte | 2008-12-10 18:41:23

    Team Obama doesn’t know what the feds have on the recordings. They are on uber panic mode most likely because there IS incriminating evidence. If Obama were held harmless, why did he abruptly cancel every appointment today? Why did he need the time to ‘do other things.’ . . .

    I didn’t know he cancelled all his appointments today. Veeeeeeeeeeery Interesting!

  206. lyn Says:

    SO JJ Sr. got a lawyer? Some how I don’t see him keeping quiet, if he ends up on the opposite side as Barky. Especially IF Jr wanted the Senate job but Barky wanted Valerie.

  207. Foxtrot Says:

    Obama is not even in office yet and he has more criminal/corrupt controversy surrounding him than Carter has pills! My Gosh, what would it be like if he actually took office. If nothing else, we should all worry about the “blackmail” element of Obama to other countries around the world. They could use dirty tactics to get the “hidden” dirt on Obama that they know is there, and use it as leverage against our country. NOT GOOD!

  208. Foxtrot Says:

    Lyn, I agree with that assessment. Jesse Jackson Senior is not one to keep his mouth shut, that is for certain!

    You know Jesse Jackson Senior doesn’t even like Obama, I am told. You could tell he didn’t throughout the campaign. Jesse even did try to hold Obama’s feet to the fire a few times during the primary. How fascinating this all is!

  209. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    lyn

    i read today he (jj jr) is the only one so far on the list to be questioned by the FBI.
    think I read it on WND

  210. lyn Says:

    So I guess he is in a fetal postion somewhere smoking up a storm with his face ticking away and Michelle standing over him screaming, get up and grow a pair I am THIS close to everything I deserve that is owed to me.

  211. Foxtrot Says:

    LOL Lyn! You know it!!!!

  212. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Fox

    jessie sr also threatened the dangles of bam bam remember…lol

  213. lyn Says:

    I got a clue about Sr.s feelings with his “rip his nuts off comment that slipped out on Fox

  214. lyn Says:

    WHY did the Feds tell Jr the nkiight before? Did they want him to spill the beans and it was his last chance before the arrrest?

  215. Foxtrot Says:

    JAC — the Jacksons will probably tell everything they know, based on what I know about them. They will do so only if they are protected though. I wonder how much Jesse Jackson Jr knew? Like I said earlier, the other shoe hasn’t even dropped yet, but in this case, I think the entire shoe rack will be coming down!

  216. Foxtrot Says:

    JAC and Lyn — I had forgotten about that little comment by Jackson Sr. Word in the campaign is that he couldn’t stand Obama and thought he was an arrogant Pri@k.

  217. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Obama…… well he has made history……. over and over and over…. lol for all the wrong reasons

  218. Foxtrot Says:

    Lyn–maybe Jesse Jackson Jr. was one of the “informants”. Otherwise I cannot see why they would tell him the night before. That is usually only done when someone is a part of the investigation/sting, isn’t it?

  219. Foxtrot Says:

    JAC – I bet that school who was going to rename itself after Obama is going to hold off for a while! LOL!

  220. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    well, how do we fight this one ladies?? nothing in the consitution about a criminal pres elect….. unless because of this they can consider him unqualified to be president…then the rest plays out

  221. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    i feel sorry for the kids that will grow up with his name…..

  222. lyn Says:

    and then of course Jr, thru Daddy under the bus for Barky. My first thoguth when I heard BO wanted Val to be Senate was I could just hear Sr telling Jr I TOLD you not to trust the scum, he tosses everyone aside as soon as he is done using them. NOW that the Jacksons look like they may be in trouble he probably is even more furious at BO. I hope they tell everything they know about the guy, including if he is elligable to even be POTUS

  223. Foxtrot Says:

    Rose, this relates to what you had said earlier. Good article. (put h t t p: / / in front)

    james4america.wordpress.com/2008/12/10/chicago-obama-media-rush-to-cleanup-for-obama/

  224. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    jr might stay loyal,…… but daddy will spill the beans about everything he knows that don’t involve jr

  225. Foxtrot Says:

    JAC – I am hoping all the dirt comes out on Obama, as well as the citizenship issue, before the Electoral College votes. I know. I know. It is not that far away. Call me an Optimist, but I am hopeful! Things seem to be accelerated now.

  226. Troy Says:

    the other two……. well….. don’t use the term PE or President Elect in front of Troy
    ————————————————————
    Lmaoooo

  227. Foxtrot Says:

    When reporters ask Jesse Jackson Sr how he could turn evidence against Obama his response could be, “A, B, C–it’s easy as 1, 2, 3–as simple as do, re, mi, A, B, C, 1, 2, 3 Baby you and me girl!”

    Sorry guys, I just couldn’t resist! Got that Jackson 5 going on in my head now!

  228. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Foxtrot Says:

    December 11, 2008 at 12:50 am
    Lyn–maybe Jesse Jackson Jr. was one of the “informants”. Otherwise I cannot see why they would tell him the night before.

    If this is only true….*snap out of a daydream* How poetic would it be that after all the racist accusations against those who have been trying to thwart the great Obami, that the one who actually brings him down is a black man as well. I am a fan of irony (I was married on the 4th of July – Independence Day 😉 ) so this would just be too cool!!

  229. Foxtrot Says:

    Mom– that would be cool, wouldn’t it?
    p.s. I am a big fan of irony too!

  230. lyn Says:

    thinkingmom11 Says:

    December 11, 2008 at 1:01 am
    Foxtrot Says:

    Especially THE AA that was running around calling anyone that questioned Barky or didn’t vote for him RACIST

  231. Foxtrot Says:

    Mom and Troy–did you read the Jackson article posted not far above? It is a longer one.

  232. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Fox

    we still have a little time……. electorial might vote but the results are sealed to be opened by congress on the 8th of january.. at anytime those votes could be voided….with the court cases and this criminal activity going on we still have a little hope…..

  233. Foxtrot Says:

    Lyn– I think you got my name in that quote but it was Mom’s quote. I didn’t post that. Good comment though.

  234. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I think lyn was responding to both of us…

  235. lyn Says:

    TM and Fox I was talking to both of you
    This week is turning more fun that I could have imagined last week

  236. thinkingmom11 Says:

    fox – that was a real attention getter…Obama may have stepped on a few too many toes this time around. Maybe the Jackson’s aren’t the lap dogs he anticipated they would be…we can hope, huh?

  237. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    all I know…..is the obots that are still arguing for bam bam has drank too much kool-aid to ever be cured….

    This isn’t racial, this isn’t wingnuts; this is just dirty politics…. a little harder to worship the Messiah

  238. Foxtrot Says:

    From your lips to God’s ears, Mom!

  239. Foxtrot Says:

    Be right back.

  240. thinkingmom11 Says:

    JAC – I am wondering even if the electoral college votes the Congress has the opportunity to object (according to congressman Linder (?) ) – is this right, Troy? I would think that if it looks like Obama has committed crimes that would be impeachable if he were in office then that would make it easy to not vote him in – or vote him in and start impeachment proceedings immediately. Then we get Ol’ Joe for president. That there isn’t a rule against a criminal being president, you have to understand that the founding fathers would have laughed their arses off to even consider that people would elect a criminal as president. The congressmen would have to also consider public outcry – if people let their reps know that they would have never voted for the guy if they had known then what they know now, then they may have the ability to challenge his election. I will need to do a little research and reading before I make a committment to this scenario, though…

  241. Troy Says:

    I heard that Rham was recorded offering Blago a Board Position for his wife…Rham was speaking on the behalf of Oblowme.

  242. Troy Says:

    Congress has the opportunity to object (according to congressman Linder (?) ) – is this right, Troy?
    ——————————————-
    correctimundo!!!!

  243. Troy Says:

    A felon CANNOT hold the Office of the Presidency…That is a disqualifier!!!

  244. Troy Says:

    If Barky bites the bag and goes down in flames before the inauguration, then the 20th Amendment will be invoked….Biden would only be a temporary.

  245. j.b. Says:

    /larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com/

    And the dirty, filthy, corrupt, machine, aka, Chicago, hums along…………..*WARNING* this may in fact P!SS you off.

    Well, it did me. I believe Larry.

  246. sliderblaze Says:

    HeEey, whats new

  247. ladyliberty Says:

    Hey Fox,
    I know you are a believer in Linda Starr. Do you know if she is the same woman who had the forged documents on CBS for W.’s military service that brought down Dan Rather? This was suggested to me by a “non-believer.”

    Thanks!

  248. Foxtrot Says:

    Slider, go to the second post and one not too far up from here that is a bit longer too. Those are two basic topics we have been going off of with our discussion. One is from Linda Starr and one is about Jesse Jackson Sr. and Jr.

  249. lyn Says:

    Troy Says:

    December 11, 2008 at 1:19 am
    I heard that Rham was recorded offering Blago a Board Position for his wife…Rham was speaking on the behalf of Oblowme

    is there a link? (I don’t doubt it just want to spread the joy, not the wealth tho lol)

  250. Foxtrot Says:

    Lady, I will try to find the info on that as I know she addressed it in one of her comments.

  251. jrinNC Says:

    I finally got the link for the map that I mentioned on the previous thread in regards to the article I posted below. It just really amazes me to see all this red and yet no win for McCain.

    w.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/results.htm

    jrinNC Says:
    December 10, 2008 at 1:24 pm

    I have a cousin who sent me this info yesterday – don’t recall seeing it on here but found it interesting – He didn’t give me a web link or I would post that. Also it showed a map of the US and it showed Prez race broken down by county – Wow it was all RED (McCain) but the problem with all this stuff is because of the Electoral College (which I think is unfair). Anyway very interesting:

    “INTERESTING FACTS —–

    Some unreported stats about the 2008 election

    Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul , Minnesota ,

    points out some interesting facts concerning the 2008 Presidential election:

    -Number of States won by: Democrats: 20; Republicans: 30

    -Square miles of land won by: Democrats: 580,000; Republicans: 2,427,000

    -Population of counties won by: Democrats: 127 million; Republicans: 143 million

    -Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Democrats: 13.2; Republicans: 2.1

    Professor Olson adds: “In aggregate, the map of the territory Republican won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens. Democrat territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in rented or government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare…”

    Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the “complacency and apathy” phase of Professor Tyler’s definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation’s population already having reached the “governmental dependency” phase. “

  252. Troy Says:

    lyn Says:

    December 11, 2008 at 1:43 am
    Troy Says:

    December 11, 2008 at 1:19 am
    I heard that Rham was recorded offering Blago a Board Position for his wife…Rham was speaking on the behalf of Oblowme

    is there a link? (I don’t doubt it just want to spread the joy, not the wealth tho lol)
    ————————————————————
    I seems like it was a logical deduction made by someone from the reading of Fitzgerald’s 76 page affidavit

  253. Troy Says:

    jrinNC Says:

    December 11, 2008 at 1:53 am
    I finally got the link for the map that I mentioned on the previous thread in regards to the article I posted below. It just really amazes me to see all this red and yet no win for McCain.
    ————————————————————-
    I have said from day one with all the voter fraud and corruption, that I would not be surprised if Obama really did not win the election.

  254. ddlew Says:

    Online Radio sucks tonight

  255. lyn Says:

    Troy, it makes sense (especially since Blago compared his wife’s qualifications to MO’s), I was just hoping for proof to show people

  256. jrinNC Says:

    Troy, you got that right – Let’s just say it’s not over until the fat lady sings – and she is really starting to sing – Anyone would be a better Prez than bama.

  257. Troy Says:

    I was just hoping for proof to show people
    ———————————————-
    Fitz will do that for you.

  258. jrinNC Says:

    what i want to know is when is someone going to starting looking at MO’s job that was mentioned in all this where she got that TREMENDOUS raise from $150….. to whatever it was???????????????

  259. ddlew Says:

    jrinNC Says:
    December 11, 2008 at 2:02 am

    what i want to know is when is someone going to starting looking at MO’s job that was mentioned in all this where she got that TREMENDOUS raise from $150….. to whatever it was???????????????

    ===============================

    When Obama directed 1 Million to her hospital for a pavilion and the next year her salary went to 365,000??

  260. jrinNC Says:

    ddlew – yup that is it.

  261. jrinNC Says:

    sounds like a pay to play deal to me

  262. sliderblaze Says:

    worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=83258

    i’m sure ya’ll saw this already but…..

  263. rosettasister Says:

    Good night, good people!

    New Thread:

    https://rosettasister.wordpress.com/2008/12/11/%e2%80%9carizonan-files-brief-supporting-berg-petition-california%e2%80%99s-dead-elector-spurs-investigation%e2%80%9d/

  264. lyn Says:

    When is Colmes leaving H&C? I was interested in watching it tonight to hear Sean about Blago ect, but Colmes is so annoying

  265. jrinNC Says:

    Has anyone ever read “The Vision” by David Wilkerson, author of “The Cross and the Switchblade”??????? Written in 1974. His very first chapter is entitled “Economic Confusion” with a sub-chapter entitled “Bankruptcies of Major Corporations.” This book was based on two visions he had back in 1973. It is like reading today’s newspapers.

  266. Troy Says:

    Can anyone recall, throughout the history of our nation, a person elected for Pres. that is so surrounded by controversy and corruption?…Anybody???….I didn’t think so….The AA community must be SO proud of their BOY!!!….The piece of feces is the worst stain on this country’s political history that has ever existed….Here’s the best part, he ain’t even freakin president yet!!!!….I can only imagine the amount of degradation he will bestowe on us during a four year term.
    BRB, I’m head to the yard to puke!!!!!

  267. ladyliberty Says:

    Troy Says:

    December 11, 2008 at 2:19 am
    Can anyone recall, throughout the history of our nation, a person elected for Pres. that is so surrounded by controversy and corruption?…Anybody???….I didn’t think so….The AA community must be SO proud of their BOY!!!….The piece of feces is the worst stain on this country’s political history that has ever existed….Here’s the best part, he ain’t even freakin president yet!!!!….I can only imagine the amount of degradation he will bestowe on us during a four year term.
    BRB, I’m head to the yard to puke!!!!!
    ______________________________________
    That’s only because WE are racists Troy. If we were more accepting, there would be no controversy.

    Man that was hard to write – LOL

  268. susiezen Says:

    thanks for the welcome all…lol amercindy…couldnt agree more on being respectful to bloggers and I love hillary when compared to {-pres-elect obama.

  269. susiezen Says:

    meant to type [NON-pres-elec]

  270. Hank Rand Says:

    Wow! I just stumbled on this accidentally trying to find what I wrote so many months ago, and see a lot more feedback and visibility here than I ever got for it!! : )

    Thanks to the keeper of this blog for putting it out there!! Please shoot me an email; if you’re on Facebook, I’d love to befriend you.

    P.S. I walked away from this issue after the inauguration because the media’s bastardizing of the facts left me so hopeless. Everywhere I turned, I encountered the same “5 commandments of Obama’s innocence”, and every time I debunked them, I was handed the same “Yeah, but he MUST be eligible…right???!!!” It infuriated me, so I moved on. “Hank Rand” is a pen name, but I’ve since been writing more vocally under my real name…so hit me up via email and I’ll pass that along.

    thanks again!

  271. rosettasister Says:

    Thank you, Hank!

    I will be posting your comment on our most recent thread:

    https://rosettasister.wordpress.com/

    https://rosettasister.wordpress.com/2009/06/27/brother-where-are-you/

    please pay us a visit!

    Rose

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