Wrotnowski v. Bysiewicz Friday, December 12, 2008

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Roger Bredow’s Web site http://wemustbeheard.com/ questions Obama’s citizen status.

http://drorly.blogspot.com/2008/12/wrotnowski-v-bysiewicz-friday-december.html

Wrotnowski v. Bysiewicz will be considered on Friday, December 12, 2008 by the full conference of Supreme Court Justices for acceptance. Cort Wrotnowski’s suit covers many of the same issues that Donofrio’s suit does, but is more polished and has less lower court baggage associated with it.

Orly Taitz, DDS Esq.

See also:

http://www.thebulletin.us/site/index.cfm?newsid=20216624&BRD=2737&PAG=461&dept_id=576361&rfi=8

Other lawsuits have sprung up around the country over Mr. Obama’s lack of proof that he is naturally born. Mr. Obama has avoided releasing his original birth certificate, opting instead to post a computer-generated printout to his “Fight the Smears” Web site. Despite the cases being in courts for months, Mr. Obama has refused to produce his birth certificate.

There are other cases that have applied to the Supreme Court for hearings, and are pending decisions from the court. Philip Berg, a lawyer from Pennsylvania, is among the plaintiffs requesting federal consideration for his case. His case was thrown out of court shortly before the election on the ground that he lacks standing in the case. Mr. Berg expects the Supreme Court to distribute papers to the justices for a conference sometime before tomorrow.

A case similar to Donofrio v. Wells has also been submitted to the Supreme Court, and has not been confirmed or denied hearings yet. Cort Wrotnowski, a plaintiff from Connecticut, filed suit against Susan Bysiewicz, Connecticut Secretary of State on the same theory that Mr. Donofrio did. It was distributed for conference by the court for Dec. 12. Like Mr. Donofrio’s case, Mr. Wrotnowski’s case must gather the approval of four of the Supreme Court Justices in order to have hearings scheduled.

Mr. Wrotnowski’s case was referred to the court by Justice Scalia.

See also:

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=83113

The new case, Cort Wrotnowski v. Susan Bysiewicz, Connecticut secretary of state, also makes a dual citizenship argument. It had been rejected by Justice Ruth Ginsburg Nov. 26 but then was resubmitted to Justice Antonin Scalia. There was no word of its fate for about 10 days, then today the court’s website confirmed it has been distributed for Friday’s conference, a meeting at which the justices consider whether to take cases.

Donofrio, whose case was rejected today, said he’s hopeful Wrotnowski’s complaint will find a more receptive panel.

“It includes a more solid brief and a less treacherous lower court procedural history,” Donofrio writes on his Natural Born Citizen blog.

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/

“I must stress that [Wrotnowski] does not have the same procedural hang up that mine does.”

The website explained an appeals judge in New Jersey had incorrectly characterized Donofrio’s original complaint as a “motion for leave to appeal” rather than a “direct appeal.”

“If Cort’s application is also denied then the fat lady can sing,” the website stated. “Until then, the same exact issue is before SCOTUS as was in my case. Cort’s application before SCOTUS incorporates all of the arguments and law in mine, but we improved on the arguments in Cort’s quite a bit as we had more time to prepare it.”

See also:

http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08a469.htm

Just Experimenting!

http://bigcontact.com/rosettasister

Phil Berg Barack Obama Ron Polarik Jeff Schreiber

397 Responses to “Wrotnowski v. Bysiewicz Friday, December 12, 2008”

  1. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    1st

  2. thinkingmom11 Says:

    2nd?

  3. Foxtrot Says:

    From the other thread:

    Foxtrot Says:

    December 9, 2008 at 3:48 pm
    Boy, if they could directly link this to Obama, he would be done!
    ========================

    Gov. Rod Blagojevich and his chief of staff John Harris were arrested today by FBI agents on federal corruption charges.

    Blagojevich and Harris were accused of a wide-ranging criminal conspiracy that included Blagojevich conspiring to sell or trade the Senate seat left vacant by President-elect Barack Obama in exchange for financial benefits for the governor and his wife. The governor was also accused of obtaining campaign contributions in exchange for other official actions.

    Blagojevich was taken into federal custody at his North Side home this morning.

    On the issue of the U.S. Senate selection, federal prosecutors alleged Blagojevich sought appointment as Secretary of Health and Human Services in the new Obama administration, or a lucrative job with a union in exchange for appointing a union-preferred candidate.

    Blagojevich and Harris conspired to demand the firing of Chicago Tribune editorial board members responsible for editorials critical of Blagojevich in exchange for state help with the sale of Wrigley Field, the Chicago Cubs baseball stadium owned by Tribune Co.

    Blagojevich and Harris, along with others, obtained and sought to gain financial benefits for the governor, members of his family and his campaign fund in exchange for appointments to state boards and commissions, state jobs and state contracts.

    “The breadth of corruption laid out in these charges is staggering,” U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald said in a statement.

    “They allege that Blagojevich put a ‘for sale’ sign on the naming of a United States senator; involved himself personally in pay-to-play schemes with the urgency of a salesman meeting his annual sales target; and corruptly used his office in an effort to trample editorial voices of criticism.”

    Foxtrot Says:

    December 9, 2008 at 3:50 pm
    My main reason for posting it was because he wanted a position in the Obama cabinet. He couldn’t have that unless Obama gave it to him. Hence, Obama is probably involved in all of this!

  4. sliderblaze Says:

    thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/1209081rod1.html

  5. Foxtrot Says:

    JAC — LOL! That is right, the federal prison is here! Maybe we could go and visit the Governor and try to convince him to “sing” about Obama! Hehe!

  6. sliderblaze Says:

    well fox news asked the question about how this would affect the incoming admin…gooood questoin

    wow, they just played the pressure Rod had yesterday, he gets the big bag of douche award of the month

  7. Foxtrot Says:

    The segment of the announcement below is also interesting. If anyone thinks that political figures in Chicago don’t have influence over the press, they are sorely mistaken.
    ============

    Blagojevich and Harris conspired to demand the firing of Chicago Tribune editorial board members responsible for editorials critical of Blagojevich in exchange for state help with the sale of Wrigley Field, the Chicago Cubs baseball stadium owned by Tribune Co.

  8. Lyn Says:

    Foxtrot
    December 9, 2008 at 3:50 pm
    My main reason for posting it was because he wanted a position in the Obama cabinet. He couldn’t have that unless Obama gave it to him. Hence, Obama is probably involved in all of this!

    Foxnews has this
    They also allege Blagojevich is heard on tape demanding a corporate board seat for his wife worth as much as $150,000 a year; promises of campaign funds, including cash up front; and a Cabinet post or ambassadorship for himself.

    these definately would involve BO and his higher ups

  9. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Fox
    if you knew how many times someone excaped from there.–wow at least every couple of months I see them out with the dogs looking for somebody

  10. Foxtrot Says:

    No way JAC! How come we never hear about it on the news? Wait . . . I retract that statement! Now you know why I have a security system on my house.

  11. sliderblaze Says:

    wow, is all i have to say, he mentions the Pres elect a bunch of time and what his influence could do…hmmmmm……very interesting

  12. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    i guess between orly and rev manning……the msn really got a spanking yesterday at the conference…..lol

    funny that it was a room packed with reporters but it didn’t hit the news

  13. Foxtrot Says:

    You said it, Slider!

  14. Foxtrot Says:

    Is the press conference tape up? Link please?

  15. sliderblaze Says:

    in the indictment, he was also maybe talking about being the head of a NPO, one that would be subject to the influence of govt funded NPO’s that the Pres elect would have influence over because of that funding…..

  16. sliderblaze Says:

    on the smoking gun, read # 95 and 96+, on the idictment, juicey stiff about the influence stuff obama may have….

  17. Foxtrot Says:

    The plot thickens! Anyone who voted for Obama, who is not at least sitting up and taking notice by now, has simply had a lobotomy! It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that Obama has surrounded himself by thugs, liars, and cheats! My Gosh . . . open up your eyes America!!!

  18. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    From Joe Thunders website
    _________________

    Update from Pastor Manning’s representative – 10:10AM EST.

    Joe, I was @ the NPC yesterday. The unnamed ABC newsperson was Vicki Mabrey, an Nightline correspondent, fmrly of 60 Minutes (I have her card as proof). Please cite this info as an unnamed confirmed source. She walked out prior to Pastor Manning speaking. Peace 🙂

    Wild Day in DC Monday 12-08-08
    I barely know where to begin. OK. Big news for Tues 12-9-08 and Friday 12-12-08. Leo Donofrio’s case was denied today, BUT Cort Wrotnowski’s case was distributed for conference by all nine SCOTUS Justices this coming Friday morning. Leo’s legal arguments were a large bases portion of Cort’s. Leo strengthened the arguments in Cort’s case, AND both Leo and Cort are heading to the SCOTUS Tues to file a supplemental brief further strengthening Cort’s case. They will answer questions from the media at the SCOTUS steps at 11:00AM.

    This is far from over. Leo is fired up. Let the media know that Leo and Cort will be there at 11:00 AM Tues.

    And it gets even better – my eyes are still crossed. I attended the most amazing press conference anyone could imagine today. The room was packed overflowing. (It was probably the same room at the National Press Club used by Rev Wright ranting on after Obama didn’t want him too. I’ll try and find out…Poetic isn’t it?.) Philip J. Berg, Esq., Bob Shultz, Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq, and the ever lovable, Pastor James Manning, just SPANKED a room full of press with four big professional vid cams running, etc. Wow. It was hard not to cheer, and Pastor Manning got an ovation even in there!

    I got it on tape.

    You’ll never see this in MSM. We’ll have it produced and posted by Tues early afternoon PST. It’s 90+ minutes. You can see the whole thing.

    Some Highlights include:

    Bob Schultz telling us how he’s been fighting the disassembly of the Constitution for 30 years. He’ll NEVER give up.

    Phil Berg telling us what’s he’s doing legally above and below the radar, and how he’ll NEVER give up. (His brother passed away on Sat, and he’s still here working hard today.)

    Pastor Manning talks about Obama’s influence and example on young people, and how unpopular Pastor Manning is in Harlem right now.

    Dr. Orly telling us about the big name plaintiffs with standing in her newest suit going to the SCOTUS. Note: Orly escaped the former USSR in 1987. She’s as motivated an individual as I have ever seen. She just blasted the MSM. My hair remains blown back. Just seeing that alone was worth the trip!

    These people are Patriots.

    BTW – On the way out, the ABC Newsperson told Orly, “Just Go Home.” That’s the wrong thing to tell Orly….stay tuned. Big media was in the room, but most would not identify themselves. I’ll report it as I get it.

  19. carribeansoul Says:

    Good morning all. I have been just lurking around lately. So extremely disappointed in our government and the non-chalance of it all. When I saw this on Fox this morning, I was thinking the same thing…BO just has to be involved somehow. It also made me realize that Rezko was supposed to be singing like a canary and it’s been awful quiet about that lately. Anybody know anything on this???

  20. Foxtrot Says:

    WHOA!!
    ====
    alleging that Blagojevich was caught on wiretaps noting that the Senate seat “is a fucking valuable thing, you just don’t give it away for nothing.” He was also recorded saying that unless “I get something real good,” he would appoint himself to the vacancy. “I’m going to keep this Senate option for me a real possibility, you know, and therefore I can drive a hard bargain. You hear what I’m saying. And if I don’t get what I want and I’m not satisfied with it, then I’ll just take the Senate seat myself.” According to the surreptitiously recorded conversations,

  21. sliderblaze Says:

    this idictment is damning and detailed, put some pressure on him and he might spill the beans

  22. Al Says:

    Rezko is quietly taking note of which way the wind is blowing. A part of him believes that as long as he remains silent there may be a “pardon” of sorts in the works further down the road; and, Governor Blagojevich, well, sounds like he has never heard the expression “loose lips sink ships” before.

  23. rosettasister Says:

    “Press Release: U.S. Supreme Court asked to issue an injunction”

    http://www.obamacrimes.com/index.php/component/content/article/1-main/72-press-release-us-supreme-court-asked-to-issue-an-injunction

    Freeper Thread:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2145241/posts

    Polarik Comments:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2145241/posts?q=1&;page=108#108

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2145241/posts?q=1&;page=109#109

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2145241/posts?q=1&;page=112#112

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2145241/posts?q=1&;page=113#113

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2145241/posts?q=1&;page=114#114

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2145241/posts?q=1&;page=93#93

    To: zarodinu; Polarik
    “There is no evidence that the COLB is fake. Some anonymous guy posted some stuff on the internet claiming to be an expert. He never inspected the actual document, or provided proof of his expertise. That is hardly evidence of forgery.”
    The guy is Dr. Ron Polarik, Freeper handle Polarik. He executed a pretty thorough forensic analysis of the images posted by Obama and his allies. One that I, with at least passing knowledge in the area, found to be credible enough to cast doubt on the authenticity of the document. By no means ‘some anonymous guy.’ As for his having never inspected the actual document, well, that is certainly true. The ‘actual document’ (depending on what the meaning of ‘actual’ is) never existed (according to the analysis). It was a forgery, cobbled together from scans with one or more image editors. Now, I won’t make any claims to absolute certainty regarding Polarik’s conclusions. But I will say that it isn’t just anonymous bunk. And I am unaware of any credible refutation of Polarik’s work.

    93 posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 1:10:53 AM by calenel

    To: calenel
    Thanks, Calenel. I know that you’re on my side, so please excuse me when I reference your responses to the comments of others in mine.
    Now, where, Calenel, do they come up with this stuff? I’m anonymous? If I was “anonymous,” then I’d sign my posts, “Anonymous.” When people take the necessary steps to protect their job and their family, they are not being “anonymous,” but doing what any, clear-headed individual would do, in light of the unusual circumstances i which they find themselves.

    115 posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 8:27:25 AM by Polarik

  24. sliderblaze Says:

    wow, number 105 on the smoking gun website….talks about Advisor A, who ever that is, if they (pres elect and his assoc.) would be able to put 10,12 or 15 mil into “the Organiztion’ that maybe his wife would be head of the board, they spoke earlier in the indictment that appointing Rod might be too high profile cus of the investigation into him, so his wife could get appointed to a board that could be funded by obama’s associates

    question, did obama konw about this and where the advisor and obama in contact about it? remember, obama is still in Chicago and ducked the media one day to go to the “gym”

  25. sliderblaze Says:

    omg, 107 is even better,

    anyone else reading this?

  26. Foxtrot Says:

    Oh my God! I just finished reading the smoking gun document of all the taped conversations with the Governor of Illinois. Many, many times he is having alleged conversations with someone from Obama’s team. How can negotiations go on for federal cabinet appointments, without Obama’s knowledge of them. Especially since he has to make the appointment!

    It will be interesting to see if Obama takes any hits with this in the MSM. It is very clear on the tape that Rod and Obama know each other well enough. THIS IS FRIGGIN’ MIND BOGGLING!

  27. sliderblaze Says:

    agreed fox, i’m on my second time through, the are talking about some pretty serious shit, like NUMBER 108…about the

    thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/1209081rod16.html

    read that one

  28. Foxtrot Says:

    SLIDER — I did read it. This crap is astonishing! I simply don’t know how Obama will get out of this one. Oh wait . . .yes, I do! He will fire whoever this person was that was “communicating on his behalf” and he will be safe once again!

    However, one thing I did notice is early on in the transcript it appears to show he is actually talking to Obama himself! Did you get that as well? It says something like [President Elect].

  29. rosettasister Says:

    If you haven’t already seen this, Jeff Schreiber has a very interesting post about Monday’s NPC event:

    “Challenging Obama’s Eligibility Only Steps from the White House”

    http://www.americasright.com/2008/12/challenging-obamas-eligibility-just.html

    There were strong points and not-so-strong points at today’s press conference, some fairly good moments and some screamingly bad ones.

    Both Dana Milbank at The Washington Post and Mike Madden at Salon wrote scathing accounts of the event.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/08/AR2008120803446.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&sub=AR

    http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/12/09/birth_certificate/

    While I may not share the same feelings of Milbank or Madden per se, I can say that if they were my arguments to make, I would have handled things a little differently, a little more succinctly, and in a more focused manner than did the folks at the front of the room.

    As many of you know, I do my best to present these sorts of things–including the new court filings and such–as objectively as possible, and have tried to do so here. Since there are some things I’d like to say about what I saw this afternoon, about how I think it fits into the arguments being made, and how it may defeat them, I plan to do so in a separate piece. So check back tomorrow (Tuesday) for my commentary, and in a day or two for information about where Berg’s case stands now, where it will likely end up, and how it will get there.

    In the meantime, I lost a night of studying. Please don’t expect too much in terms of similarly expansive content over the next few days. Thanks for understanding.

    — Jeff

  30. thinkingmom11 Says:

    MAN!! Just when things are getting interesting I gotta go!!! You KNOW i will be back as soon as I can! Have fun going through Blogawhatsits dirty laundry 🙂

  31. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    whatcha wanta bet that the msn says nothing about Rod that links him and bam bam together.

  32. jjones Says:

    holy crap…..

  33. jjones Says:

    There is no way that BO and this guy are not directly connected

  34. Foxtrot Says:

    “Blagojevich analogized his siutation to that of a sports agent shopping a potential free agent to various teams, stating, “how much are you offering, [President Elect]?”
    ====================

    That appears to be a conversation with Obama himself! Is it not?

  35. jjones Says:

    Can a president elect be impeached before he takes office? 🙂

  36. Foxtrot Says:

    Darn it! I have to run to a meeting. I will be back later. If you have not already, please read the transcript from the Smoking Gun. It will blow your mind!

  37. sliderblaze Says:

    Fox, i think he was talking to his rods advisor, however, he does mention his advisors being in touch with obamas advisors a number of times regarding the 501(c) scheme they were cooking up

    anyone here know if annenberg or woods foundation is a 501(c)(?)

  38. Wizcon Says:

    Hi
    Stopped in to see what was next as far as the Supreme court Cases were concerned.

    I read about the Gov’s tape. It sounds to me like Obama didn’t bite for the appts to get his preferred candidate in.

    “Also during that call, Blagojevich agreed it was unlikely that Obama would name him Secretary of Health and Human Services or give him an ambassadorship because of all of the negative publicity surrounding him, according to the complaint.

    In a conversation with Harris on Nov. 11, the charges state, Blagojevich said he knew Obama wanted Senate Candidate 1 for the open seat but “they’re not willing to give me anything except appreciation. [Expletive] them.”

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/blagojevich/1321300,rod-blagojevich-illinois-governor-custody-120908.article

    That last line doesn’t sound like there was scheaming between The Gov and Obama. The Pay for Play thing

  39. sliderblaze Says:

    Drudge report.com
    getn better as the minutes pass

  40. sliderblaze Says:

    washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/18/whistleblower-hits-obama-friends-appraisal/

    remember the land deal of rezko and obambi?

  41. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    wow move over Ryan,….Rod’s coming to visit

  42. jjones Says:

    wow…getting deeper and deeper
    washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/18/whistleblower-hits-obama-friends-appraisal/

  43. sliderblaze Says:

    they appear to be going balls deep on this one…..pardon the analogy

  44. jjones Says:

    slider… heh, pretty graphic

  45. thinkingmom11 Says:

    ok – on last thing PEP-maybe the truth will not prevail on the citizenship but Justice may be served with this Blagodipshitz situation! Weeeeeeee

  46. sliderblaze Says:

    if drudge keeps going, half his page will be red headlines

  47. jjones Says:

    mom, I’ll take it… as long as it keeps him out of office

  48. sliderblaze Says:

    actually, i’m hoping it’ll shed more light onto the subject…..

  49. thinkingmom11 Says:

    AMEN JJ – now I am **************running out the door (that is me peeling out – I’m late, I’m late…..)

  50. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    if everyone isn’t looking at bam bam with rose colored glasses….. more chance of the trusth coming out

  51. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    who’s going to bet if bo is on TV today that tic will be showing?

  52. hockeyfan530 Says:

    and there’s the Giannoulias connection that is also involved

    therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/06/15/coincidence-or-not-obama-rezko-giannoulias/

  53. hockeyfan530 Says:

    yep, just more reasons why associations DO MATTER!

  54. Lyn Says:

    I’m readin g but am behind you

  55. rosettasister Says:

    Wizcon Says:
    December 9, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    Hi Wizcon!

    Thanks for the link!

    If you don’t want your posts to go into moderation, just post something that looks like this:

    suntimes.com/news/metro/blagojevich/1321300,rod-blagojevich-illinois-governor-custody-120908.article

    no http

    no www

    no “blue”

    thanks

  56. sba1872 Says:

    therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/12/09/merry-fitzmas-feds-take-blagojevich-into-custody/

    This is a great site. Have been reading it every day for months. Remember the Evelyn Pringle series?

  57. Lyn Says:

    jjones Says:

    December 9, 2008 at 4:42 pm
    wow…getting deeper and deeper
    washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/18/whistleblower-hits-obama-friends-appraisal/

    WHY are they just talking about this now? it happened MONTHS ago, you know before the election

  58. rosettasister Says:

    http://www.freedommarch.org/Wild_Day.html

    Update from Pastor Manning’s representative – 10:10AM EST.

    Joe, I was @ the NPC yesterday. The unnamed ABC newsperson was Vicki Mabrey, an Nightline correspondent, fmrly of 60 Minutes (I have her card as proof). Please cite this info as an unnamed confirmed source. She walked out prior to Pastor Manning speaking. Peace 🙂

  59. ddlew Says:

    Well I’m sure everyone saw Drudge’s headline about the Rezko/Obama land deal subpeona?

  60. sba1872 Says:

    From hillbuzz:

    hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/12/09/illinois-governor-rod-blagojevich-close-obama-friend-arrested-it-is-not-out-of-the-realm-of-possibility-for-obama-to-be-arrested-too-before-the-special-prosecutor-is-finished/

    “If the media took a bad land deal in Arkansas and turned it into the parade of Whitewater manufactured scandals, we shudder to think of what they could do with everything in Obama’s closet.

    Governor Blagojevich has one Hell of a singing voice.”

  61. sliderblaze Says:

    if this guy has anything on obama, he’s gonna sing and sing loud, this guy is a schmuck

  62. rosettasister Says:

    Pastor Manning at twitter:

    http://twitter.com/atlahworldwide

  63. sba1872 Says:

    Now I’m thinking that this is why Rezko talks broke off. Fitzgerald had more recent and juicy stuff to go with.

  64. hockeyfan530 Says:

    sba,

    did you see the bambamonite (matt) on hillbuzz? You know, to them NOTHING ever matters. Man it’s so infuriating that people can be that ignorant! People wonder how Hitler got into power. How the anti-christ will be able to come to power. It’s people like bambamonites!

  65. sba1872 Says:

    hockeyfan,

    No, I didn’t. Going back to read now. Thanks.

  66. sba1872 Says:

    Hockeyfan,

    Matt (as Bugs Bunny would say) is a marroon. The entire Whitewater investigation was political from beginning to end. Anything Fitzgerald is associated with is clean. He is apolitical. He’s already proved that. If Obama becomes implicated in this through US Attorney Fitzgerald, it will not be seen as political because Fitz has already shown that he doesn’t operate that way. The Illinois Combine, from what I understand, is not politically biased. Both sides of the aisle are members.

  67. sliderblaze Says:

    Matt is what we like to call a one testical partisan, defends his party to the end, only has the “ball” to go after the other party. Fitz was prolly his hero during the plame investigation.

  68. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    I think it would be good to put pressure on him. I guess everyone has been watching FOX about this @ss! Did you all see all the photos of him and Obama together? He is such a pompous a$s !

  69. Troy Says:

    Is there any video of the press conference yesterday?

  70. sliderblaze Says:

    i havent found any yet Troy

  71. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    “Union might get benefits from PE Barack Obama and therefore the PE might get the candidate of his choice.”

    Camp. contributions were offered to get the senate seat! 15 million dollars total!

  72. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Another one bites the dust!

  73. Troy Says:

    Where can I find this Smokin Gun Doc.

  74. Troy Says:

    Patrick Fitzgerald = Eliot Ness

  75. sliderblaze Says:

    thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/1209081rod1.html

    right there

  76. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Please tell me that BO was involved in some of this! Pleeeeeeaseses! Not that I want him to be bad, but that I think he is involved and he needs to get busted!

  77. sliderblaze Says:

    the entire brief here

    chicagotribune.com/media/acrobat/2008-12/43789434.pdf

  78. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Agent Al, where are you–out milching the cows? Where was secret agent Obama when all of this stuff was taking place? Surely, we are to believe that this just began a few months ago.

    This moron gets to continue to be Governor and CAN make the appts and such as he chooses.

    Hmmm let’s see if they impeach this schmuck! and then maybe they can “pre-impeach” the unimpeachable Citizen O!

  79. Troy Says:

    Hopefully the Gov (Rod) will start singing like a canary also.

  80. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    oops that was suppose to say, “surely we are not to believe”

  81. Troy Says:

    They won’t let him appoint anyone…He is going to prison

  82. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    you know…. I was born and raised in Illinois… 60 miles from where I live now……. Obama,.. Rod…… Former Gov Ryan…… yeah…. sure makes me proud of my state

  83. Troy Says:

    They all think they are little Capones

  84. Troy Says:

    Obama is just as dirty as the rest of them

  85. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    well got to dash…. ex husband will be here in a couple of minutes…. helping him chirstmas shop

  86. Al Says:

    peppermintpatty777 Says:

    December 9, 2008 at 6:07 pm
    Agent Al, where are you–out milching the cows? Where was secret agent Obama when all of this stuff was taking place? Surely, we are to believe that this just began a few months ago.

    This moron gets to continue to be Governor and CAN make the appts and such as he chooses.

    Hmmm let’s see if they impeach this schmuck! and then maybe they can “pre-impeach” the unimpeachable Citizen O!

    *************************************************************

    Good day, Susan. Suffice it to say if this storyline spreads akin to one of those California wildfires, Mr. Obama, who I trust is already assessing the potential damage if any, is already drafting a response where he simply distances himself from Governor Blagojevich…”Um, umm, umm it’s come to my attention that someone I ONCE believed worthy of my confidence and trust has engaged in dirty-politics, which as, um, umm, um you all know as members of the press that I ran for public office on a theme of change to change this particular thing, politics as usual”, etc, etc, etc…such a speech would only be given, Susan, if there is something substantially linking Mr. Obama in a specific manner… as oppose to the crafty buffer (“Obama campaign sources”), Mr. Alexrod may have wisely set up to prevent any potential fallout damage directly to Mr. Obama. However, as the specifics come in, Susan, and this Chicagoland wildfire heats up/spreads beyond control it’ll be interesting to see whose holding the matches and gasoline can. Off to retrieve some soup and sandwiches for the office gang. Have a wonderful Tuesday. Safe travels.

  87. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Oh, Al, I do not think this is going to go away so easily for Citizen Obama. You see, Americans have a love-hate relationship with their politicians. We love to win, we love to express ourselves, and then we hate the politicians! We like to have someone to blame for all of the evils in the world, and all the boredom or sameness (and everyone wants change so I would venture people are tired of the sameness in their lives) in our own lives.

    Once a corrupt, dirty politician is outed, including the President or wanna-be president, then the public will turn upon him/her.

    I just think that when the cat squeals, it’s gonna be because it’s tail’s on fire, and not just because it got caught in the door!

  88. sliderblaze Says:

    i’m getting sick of all these “SHOCKED” about Rod B statements. IT’S CHICAGO, HELLOOOOOO, I THINK THAT MCCAIN AND ESPECIALLY PALIN MADE IT CLEAR THAT CHICAGO WAS A CORRUPT CITY. I know it’s hard MSM but pay attention

  89. sliderblaze Says:

    mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/195352.php

    media bias in full effect on this one

  90. j.b. Says:

    As I am far from being caught up in the postings here, this may have already been revealed and or discussed. But, from what I have gleaned at The Smoking gun site is, Rahm Emanuel was the middle man (and the one who apparently “dropped a dime” on RB), therefore Obama will come out of this smelling like a rose. Albeit, one of those plastic ones which has been scented with that sickly, nasty, “rose” scented sprays. Yuck. But a rose none the less. imo.

  91. sliderblaze Says:

    well J.b. rod was elected in 2002 so, he may have a lot of other things he’s guilty of and is also was a reciever of campaign money from rezko, who is also talking….

  92. Foxtrot Says:

    Good day, Susan. Suffice it to say if this storyline spreads akin to one of those California wildfires, Mr. Obama, who I trust is already assessing the potential damage if any, is already drafting a response where he simply distances himself from Governor Blagojevich…”Um, umm, umm it’s come to my attention that someone I ONCE believed worthy of my confidence and trust has engaged in dirty-politics, which as, um, umm, um you all know as members of the press that I ran for public office on a theme of change to change this particular thing, politics as usual”, etc, etc, etc…such a speech would only be given, Susan, if there is something substantially linking Mr. Obama in a specific manner… as oppose to the crafty buffer (”Obama campaign sources”), Mr. Alexrod may have wisely set up to prevent any potential fallout damage directly to Mr. Obama. However, as the specifics come in, Susan, and this Chicagoland wildfire heats up/spreads beyond control it’ll be interesting to see whose holding the matches and gasoline can. Off to retrieve some soup and sandwiches for the office gang. Have a wonderful Tuesday. Safe travels.

    ========

    Al, this was very funny!

    I am back for a few minutes and wanted to catch up. As for someone saying Obama will come out smelling like a rose . . . only if he doesn’t tick off Governor Rod. If Obama comes out with some sort of statement “denouncing the Gov” or tries to act above him, you can bet the Governor will sing like a bird just to get back at Obama!

  93. j.b. Says:

    Well, Rezko needs to hurry it up with his fat lady singing skit!

  94. Foxtrot Says:

    I have been in meetings most of the day. Have any MSM covered this story at any length?

  95. j.b. Says:

    Well, Rezko needs to hurry it up with his fat lady singing skit!

  96. Foxtrot Says:

    I agree j.b.! Maybe that is what led to the wire tapping of the Governor?!? Rezko could have put the feds onto who to tap, etc.

  97. Foxtrot Says:

    I think if the Feds do have recordings that would implicate Obama, they wouldn’t put that transcript out for all to see, including Obama. They would want to keep those on the down low so Obama wouldn’t have time to refute them. Also, it will allow them to build a stronger case against Obama when other people “sing” and give up even more secrets. That is what our neighbor said in a meeting today (he is former FBI). For what it is worth.

  98. hockeyfan530 Says:

    quiet in here today huh?

    does any site have the press conference video on it yet?

  99. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    just got home…

  100. Foxtrot Says:

    Hockey — not that I know of. At least, not yet!

  101. Foxtrot Says:

    Hi JAC! Shopping with the Ex, huh? That must be interesting!

  102. Troy Says:

    Obama is up to his BIG ears in the Chicago corruption….You can’t be a politician in Chicago and not play the game….That’s just the way it is….It’s just a matter of time before ChicagObama finds his balls in a vice….Fitzgerald will be the one who is cranking the handle.

  103. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    hey fan

    not yet…… but raw video wasn’t to arrive until 10:30 this morning..then they had to convert it for web…..

  104. Troy Says:

    The house of cards IS going to crumble!!!

  105. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Fox
    we get along good now that we are divorced….. heck we got alone during the divorce…… sometimes love isn’t enough when you live with someone bi-polar……we still care,….. I just couldn’t live walking on egg shells anymore….

  106. Foxtrot Says:

    From chicagobreakingnews.com —

    Obama told reporters he was “saddened and sobered” by Blagojevich’s arrest.

    “I was not aware of what was happening,” Obama said. “I had no contact with the governor or his office and so I was not aware of what was happening.”

    Yea . . . riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!

  107. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    this might get the msm looking deeper into his past……. now that the rose colored glasses might be removed

  108. Foxtrot Says:

    That’s great JAC! Good for you and your Ex.

  109. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    well if bam bam isn’t recorded talking to him personally….. then you KNOW someone is going to get thrown under a bus and it won’t be bam bam

  110. Troy Says:

    justanamericancindy4 Says:

    December 9, 2008 at 8:27 pm
    this might get the msm looking deeper into his past……. now that the rose colored glasses might be removed
    ———————————————————–
    MSM investigating?….pfffttt

  111. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    What is that saying, “Nothing good can come out of Chicago (politics)”… something like that maybe!

    Isn’t it sort of just down right amazing that the very same state that our very obscure soon-to-be if a miracle doesn’t happen PE comes out of also boasts some of the most notorious scoundels in the country–and the soon-to-be PE is always photo-opped shaking hands with them or huggin them or toasting them or congratulating them–and then he’s of course, denying he hardly even knew them! It’s a lot of people to be in politics with and yet “hardly know them”!

  112. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Since I don’t drink, I think I’m going to have to get a new hat! It’s enough to make a girl wanna shop!

  113. Foxtrot Says:

    Obama is the teflon candidate!

  114. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Troy

    but this can’t be considered racially motivated….. just plain dirty politics

  115. Foxtrot Says:

    Patty — I SEE YOUR PINK HAT!!! Hooray! It finally arrived, and might I say, it looks lovely!

  116. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    hmmmm foxy I still see the old one on patty….. not the pretty pink hat

  117. Foxtrot Says:

    Here is an article way back in June. Seems to be moving along as they thought it would. Next stop for the Feds . . . Obama!

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/obama-rezko-1.html

  118. Troy Says:

    Obambam already released a statement (lie) that he had NO IDEA that this kind of stuff was going on in Chicago.

    PUKE!!!!….BARF!!!!….RALPH!!!!

  119. Foxtrot Says:

    Here is an article way back in June. Seems to be moving along as they thought it would. Next stop for the Feds . . . Obama!
    (h t t p: / / in front)

    latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/obama-rezko-1.html

  120. j.b. Says:

    “I was not aware of what was happening,” Obama said. “I had no contact with the governor or his office and so I was not aware of what was happening.”

    Yea . . . riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!

    Good catch! Hannity has already debunked this. Has a quote from Axelrod from TWO WEEKS AGO (I heard it), that Obama has been in contact with The Governor!

    Hahahahahahahahaha. Liar, liar pants are (still) on fire!

    bbl~

  121. Foxtrot Says:

    Troy, I posted the direct quote from Obama above.

  122. inspirational1 Says:

    Hannity is just talking how Obama just said that he had no contact ever with Blago or his office ever. And two weeks ago on Fox sunday Axelrod said that Blago and Obama worked together and friends.. don’t know exact quote.

    Obama is going down.

  123. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    good thing Rosey keeps a good supply of barf bags stocked…..
    passing them out

  124. Foxtrot Says:

    JAC and Patty–I am showing the pink hat with what appears to be some sort of white trim at the bottom.

    Has MSNBC or CNN covered this story about the Governor at all today?

  125. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Ladies, a new hat is coming. This hs been such a stressful day. BO is saying “Obviously I’m saddened and sobered–” I don’t think it would be appropriate for me to cmment at this time– I had no contact with the gov. or his office so I didn’t know what was happening.

    Uhhhhh…hmmm…I didn’t know them —

    Sounds so darned familiar!

  126. Foxtrot Says:

    I hope Hannity plays that audio/video of Axelrod. However, you know Obama will just say “Axelrod was mistaken”.

  127. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Well, he kind of smells and smells like PUKE! I do not delight in seeing the man fall, but I do delight in the fact that he has been caught!

    Can’t believe he’s out on a $4500.00 bail bond! Like, did he just get a traffic ticket or what– I thought he would at least have a bond of 100 k or something. If I was charged with what he’s charged with and the bond was so low, I’d be ticked off!

  128. Foxtrot Says:

    Gotta run for a bit, but I will be back.

  129. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    bye foxy

  130. hockeyfan530 Says:

    EVERY associations Obama has ever been asked about he’s LIED about! Wright, Ayers, ACORN, Kahlid, Rezko and now this! The media needs to be held responsible for letting him get away with this. The damn bambamonites won’t listen or put all of this together. This is getting just down right silly. This is soooo frustrating. Bambam could kick his supporters in the mouth and they would assume that bambam was getting something out of their teeth!

  131. CJ Says:

    Who wants to bet the Obama gang set this Blago issue up. Was said on Rush today that the good Gov reached out to one Mr. Rahm Emmanuel re the Senate seat. My, my less than 24 hours later he is arrested by the Feds. Better be careful who you try to hop in bed with. The Gov probably thought he was following orders and then got a little greedy, wanting his piece of the pie. Not wise when the thug patrol is waiting to trip you up. Should be interesting to see what the next chapter brings to the great state of Illinois and the Chicago den of thieves.

  132. inspirational1 Says:

    Hannity played the audio of Axelrod

  133. inspirational1 Says:

    Obama, Blago, Axelrod and Emmanuel met weekly during Blago’s run for office to help him run. Advising him…Chicago daily herold, july 06, would sit on Blago admin if asks.
    Blago and Obama were very close. Hmmmm

    whats new from O..

    Senate candidate 5 reported the fraud, was told to pay 500,000 for the senate seat.

    Obama is being said to release all records relating to work with Blago

    Obamas transition team will be called in relations to Blago

  134. Troy Says:

    Jeff Schreiber at America’s Right said that the press conference held yesterday was basically an embarrassing fiasco….UGH!!!

    He said instead of sticking to the points and asking the media the simple question, “Why is Obama spending a fortune to hide his B/C?, that certain people slipped in to conspiracy ranting diatribes….Oh that’s just great!!!…Grrrrrrrr….Now we are bigger tin-foil hats wearers than ever….No wonder Leo didn’t want to have any part of it….It’s sounds like they did us a terrible disservice.

  135. rosettasister Says:

    We must be on the same page, Troy!

    “Fighting an Uphill Battle in Rollerskates”

    http://www.americasright.com/2008/12/fighting-uphill-battle-in-rollerskates.html

    EXCERPT

    Yesterday’s objectives were simple. First, understand who you’re speaking to and how your words will be perceived. Second, recite the constitutional guidelines at the heart of your argument, apply the rules to the facts at hand, briefly explain what could happen should redress not be provided, and use the questions from the media to sharpen and reinforce points already made. For instance:

    We are here today because Article II, Section 1 of the United States Constitution requires that the president of the United States be at least 35 years of age, have been a resident of the United States for at least 14 years, and be a Natural Born Citizen of the United States of America. Because of unanswered questions about the birthplace and citizenship of Barack Obama, because he has not provided a long-form birth certificate or other proof of his citizenship, we do not know for sure that he fits the natural born requirement set forth in Article II, Section 1, and have asked the court to suspend the Electoral College vote until such an affirmation can be made.

    Here’s a copy of the Certificate of Live Birth made available by the Obama campaign, and here’s a copy of what a typical 1961 Hawaiian certificate looks like. Obama could have prevented this entire controversy a few months ago by obtaining a vault copy of his long-form, stamped and authenticated birth certificate from Hawaii and providing it to reporters and the courts to examine and photograph it. He has not done so, has instead retained counsel to avoid presenting the supposedly harmless documentation — and for that reason we proceed.

    Should it turn out, later, that he has been serving as president without being constitutionally eligible to be there, he will be considered a “usurper” and the effect of the laws passed and decisions made during his tenure will be put into question. Any questions?

    Above all else, at the heart of this controversy is indeed a valid question and very important issue, yet the actions of those who advocate on the issue’s behalf do nothing to responsibly advance the argument. We live in a sound-bite-driven media age, and those looking to advance this debate are already fighting an uphill battle with regard to the mainstream media’s obvious bias to the left — no need to further hinder their chances by adding rollerskates. These folks do themselves no favors by deviating from a simple, plausible argument that just might work with the public, if not the courts.

    In fact, should the true, underlying questions and concerns at hand continue to be overshadowed by media indictments, Super Bowl nipples, NAFTA, Sharia law, flamboyant talk of the Tri-Lateral Commission and other forms of blathering, fanatical overkill, the very people who want so badly to defend the Constitution against Barack Obama could instead turn out to be his greatest allies.

    Posted by Jeff Schreiber

  136. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Troy
    gets even worst…… I guess Orly even said there isn’t proof that bam bam’s mother is even dead.

  137. Troy Says:

    GOOD GRIEF!!!…Don’t they understand who they talking to.

    My God, I’m just a hick from the country and I could have advised them better than what they did.

    They set us back at least 3 steps…I’m pissed!!!!

  138. rosettasister Says:

    20th Amendment Sct3: “if the President elect shall have failed to qualify”

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2145602/posts

    Section 3.

    If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President.

    If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified;

    and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified,

    declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

    “Constitution of the United States”

    http://www.law.emory.edu/index.php?id=3080

  139. sliderblaze Says:

    blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/12/questions-arise.html

    video of axlerod on obama talking to Rod

  140. sliderblaze Says:

    drudge has it up in red….nice getum

  141. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Troy
    we know the rumors,…. we have heard the odd stories that don’t make sense…. like BO’s mother…but then wasn’t the time to air the stories that are just that……stories….

    Burg did his usual,…… i understand that Joe and the guy from We the people did a good job……Rev Manning…… was …….well just Manning……the one that surprised me was Orly….. guess she went into a fit

  142. sliderblaze Says:

    just caught in a lie………….oh shit,

  143. inspirational1 Says:

    December 9, 2008 by PUMA Pundit
    On the Chicago TV show “Public Affairs with Jeff Berkowitz”
    on June 27, 2002, state Sen. Obama said,

    “Right now, my main focus is
    to make sure that we elect Rod Blagojevich as Governor, we…”

    “You working hard for Rod?” interrupted Berkowitz.

    “You betcha,” said Obama.

    “Hot Rod?” asked the host.

    “That’s exactly right,” Obama said

    Some will still say that Blagojevich has no connection to Barack Obama… Right…
    from puma08.com

  144. Troy Says:

    Well, according to Jeff, Joe dogpiled on with his own rantings…They had the perfect opportunity to make a legitimate plea to the general public and instead went apeshit.

  145. inspirational1 Says:

    How the Cookie Crumbles… Obama’s EXTENSIVE connections to Blagojevich…
    December 9, 2008 by PUMA Pundit
    Things aren’t looking too good in Obamaland right now. From Trapper:

    Asked what contact he’d had with the governor’s office about his replacement in the Senate, President-elect Obama today said “I had no contact with the governor or his office and so we were not, I was not aware of what was happening.”

    But on November 23, 2008, his senior adviser David Axelrod appeared on Fox News Chicago and said something quite different.

    While insisting that the President-elect had not expressed a favorite to replace him, and his inclination was to avoid being a “kingmaker,” Axelrod said, “I know he’s talked to the governor and there are a whole range of names many of which have surfaced, and I think he has a fondness for a lot of them.

    It also seems Obama and Blagojevich go back like babies and pacifiers:

    And, it should be pointed out, Mr. Obama has a relationship with Mr. Blagojevich, having not only endorsed Blagojevich in 2002 and 2006, but having served as a top adviser to the Illinois governor in his first 2002 run for the state house.

    That 2002 endorsement came at the same time that Axelrod had such serious concerns about whether Blagojevich was ready for governing he refused to work for his one-time client.

    According to Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill., Mr. Obama’s incoming White House chief of staff, Emanuel, then-state senator Obama, a third Blagojevich aide, and Blagojevich’s campaign co-chair, David Wilhelm, were the top strategists of Blagojevich’s 2002 gubernatorial victory.

    Emanuel told the New Yorker earlier this year that he and Obama “participated in a small group that met weekly when Rod was running for governor. We basically laid out the general election, Barack and I and these two.”

    Hey, don’t blame me, I proudly voted for John McCain, although now it seems I might end up with President Biden.

    puma08.com

  146. sliderblaze Says:

    Whats that sound, blump blump, another obama associate under the bus how many is that now….
    1,2,3,4,5…..more to come?

  147. Troy Says:

    I’m so sick of all this crap!!!…I can’t wait until Oblowhole is led away in cuffs….At least prison won’t have a negative impact on his sex life.

  148. rosettasister Says:

    Well, we know where Ben Smith stands!

    “Impeach Chester Arthur!”

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1208/Impeach_Chester_Arthur.html

    The Obama citizenship lawsuits aren’t over.

    The Supreme Court will consider yet another application this Friday, December 12, in a Connecticut case called Wrotnowski v. Bysiewicz, which seeks to stay Obama’s election with the assertion that he’s not a “natural born citizen.”

    While other lawsuits have (without evidence) cast doubt on Obama’s birth certificate, this one is more creative: It claims that courts have, for more than a century, been misunderstanding the definition of “natural born citizen,” and that if you have a foreign father, you aren’t one.

    A corrolary of this … unusual reading of the law appears to be that President Chester Arthur was illegitimate too.

    A sample of the logic from the plaintiff’s blog: “It must now be questioned whether the relationship between Chester Arthur and Justice Gray was influenced by Arthur’s eligibility problems and whether those issues effected Gray’s opinion and vote in Wong Kim Ark.”

    Got that?

    (There’s also been some speculation on whether the fact that Antonin Scalia distributed this case to his fellow justices for Friday’s conference means anything; Southwestern Law School professor Ken Williams, who has filed for his share of stays in death penalty cases, says not — that in fact, Scalia’s move was routine. Williams also suggests the courts start imposing penalties for “frivolous” citizenship litigation.)

    This applications is expected, like the last, and most such applications, to be rejected.

    By Ben Smith 03:57 PM

  149. sliderblaze Says:

    Troy, that was toooo rich…lol

    i was wondering, can obama thro himself under said bus?

  150. sliderblaze Says:

    Obama’s next statement…lol, got his from a comment at hotair

    “I am not the man I thought I knew”

    i’m sure the media would let him get away with that one too

  151. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    I wonder if the feds decided to go ahead with this due to the fact that Obama was caught on the tapes one too many times, so to prevent any further carpe PE’m they decided to go ahead and bring Brag in.

    It seems odd that on the same day that Chicago tribune tanks, Blag who tried to twist the arm of the trib is arrested. I wonder who number 5 is? Hmmm…

  152. hockeyfan530 Says:

    LOL

    the extended quote.

    I knew me for the past 20 years. I was like me to me. I can no more deny myself than i can deny my race. I never heard myself say those things.

    two weeks later…when he says something bad again

    I am not the man i knew.

  153. Troy Says:

    Obama’s Defense: I have Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD).
    All of those bad people were associations of Barry’s…I, Barack, strongly condem them and personally wished that Barry would take a hike and leave me alone!!!….Furthermore I say, Barry, stop eating my waffles and arugala!!!!….BTW, It was Barry that had sex with Larry…I umm, duh, duh, umm strongly condem that as well…Stoooopid Barry!!!!!……Doh!!!!!

  154. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Fox is talking about Axelrod’s statement and B.O’s denial today.

    Wish they would talk about this!

    and, how about this:

    According to Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill., Mr. Obama’s incoming White House chief of staff, Emanuel, then-state senator Obama, a third Blagojevich aide, and Blagojevich’s campaign co-chair, David Wilhelm, were the top strategists of Blagojevich’s 2002 gubernatorial victory.

    Emanuel told the New Yorker earlier this year that he and Obama “participated in a small group that met weekly when Rod was running for governor. We basically laid out the general election, Barack and I and these two.”

    Of course, twice his senior aids are saying that these Rahm and Ax both mis-spoke. If they can’t get their stories straight how are they going to run this country!

    Maybe we should just all revolt!

  155. Troy Says:

    POSTED Larry Sinclair’s site:

    OBAMA SUPPORTERS/SURROGATES NOW CLAIMING OBAMA VICTIM OF BLACKMAIL AGAIN

    Obama supporters/surrogates are now claiming that Illinois Governor was in fact trying to extort Barack Obama and claim that Obama Chief of Staff Rahm “Dead Fish” Emmanuel turned in the Governor. What is it with the Obama camp always claiming they are the victims? Obama’s former classmate was accused by the Obama campaign of trying to extort money from Obama but never reported it to law enforcement, instead they reported it to the Chicago Tribune! Then Robert Gibbs claims I or someone claiming to represent me, attempted to extort Obama out of $100,000 which never happened and the campaign never made any such report to any law enforcement.

    Now, the Governor of Illinois, who Barack Obama this very day claims he has had NO contact or discussions with for some time, is arrested and Obama camp claims the Governor was trying to extort Obama? Oh and Barack Obama might want to explain why David Axelrod said Obama and Illinois Governor had a lengthy phone conversation less than a month ago about Obama’s Senate seat replacement.

    So which is it Barack, you did or you did not discuss the filling of your senate seat with Illinois Gov?

    But will the media report this conflict of statements from the Obama camp

  156. hockeyfan530 Says:

    poor bambam, Everyone picks on him. The guy is honest, has integrity, bends over backwards to be transparent and he is the “one”. He loves this country and he just wants to unify the country. Let’s all give him a break. He has been nothing but exemplary in my eyes. I dare say he’s without flaw.

  157. sliderblaze Says:

    lol….fan, i bet that was hard to type

  158. sliderblaze Says:

    cant wait for H and C tonight

  159. hockeyfan530 Says:

    why would a gov. try to blackmail the “could” be the next president? LOL Wouldn’t that be kind of, well, blatantly stupid. Come on. there is no way!

  160. sliderblaze Says:

    i’m really liking the calls for O to release all his dealings with Blago

  161. sliderblaze Says:

    Maybe Blago knows something that…..you know, he could black mail O with…hmmmmm, i say, hold on to your shorts, this will be interesting indeed

  162. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I have a feeling they moved on Blago so quickly – instead of reeling in a few more big fish – to keep Obama from getting himself directly implicated in this situation. I also think that Obama had Rahm turn Blago in to have the “appearance” of integrity. He is one crafty, clever snake, that guy…

  163. sliderblaze Says:

    newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/clout_st/2008/12/rep-jesse-jacks.html

    lol, oops

  164. amy Says:

    Wow! You guys had a busy day today.

  165. sliderblaze Says:

    he did move way too quickly, why not have him set the deal up, then reel in. strange in that respect, however, on the rahm thing, supposidly the wire tapes were already in place before that “occurred” im seeing that as some Obot spin

  166. Troy Says:

    If Blago has reason to believe that Rham and Obam had something to do with it, then Blago is going to break it off in their arses by spilling his guts to Fitzgerald.

  167. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Slider – do you think the Obama crew got wind of the investigation and maybe tried to do a little damage control – after all the general public appears to be pretty easy to deceive?

  168. Troy Says:

    but Fitzgerald isn’t easy to deceive!!!

  169. amy Says:

    Concerning the governor, Ata first implicated him in the Rezko case, saying he used Rezko to offer Ata a job working for the state in exchange for $25,000 contribution to the governors campaign.. Rezko denied it initialy.. So the FBI had to go after him a different way… They werent expecting to hear this stuff when they wiretapped his “Friends of Blagowich” office and they were shocked. They had to move fast before the governor appointed someone.

  170. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Would be great if Slugo and Sleazko snitch like the bags they are hoping to get mercy for turning states evidence… Slugo seems to be to be nothing more than a “what’s in it for me” kinda guy so it should be pretty easy to get him to agree to some sort of deal…

  171. sliderblaze Says:

    here is what i think, it shoulda played out to the point just before the appointment, that seems obvious, you dont arrest a drug dealer, until you catch him dealing the drugs. I think that Blago already feels betrayed and now that he’s indicted, i’m sure he’ll sing for a reduced sentence and maybe even corab rezko’s story, i’m thinking we only have 1/100th of the information involved in this, if Obama and Rahm and Axelrod are called before a grand jury to state what they know, they may ask for all records in dealings with blago….there are two invest. against blago right now

  172. sliderblaze Says:

    MOM, he’s def. a WIFFM guy

  173. Troy Says:

    Blago = Monty Hall

  174. sliderblaze Says:

    sorry thats WIIFM

  175. sliderblaze Says:

    An Obama aide, speaking on the condition of anonymity, took back David Axelrod’s remark last month that Barack Obama and Rod Blagojevich had spoken recently.

    “What the president-elect said today is correct, David Axelrod misspoke,” the aide said.

    Obama said today the men had not spoken.

    An open question: When they last spoke.

    Axelrod blump blump semi under the bus….haha, this is greatstuff

  176. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Troy – thank goodness for that Fitz, huh…

    Amy – please refresh me on who Ata is…TIA

    Though I still believe they moved to fast..should’ve let him appoint someone and let the Senate deal with challenging the appointment

  177. sliderblaze Says:

    i wanna see blago’s phone records on that one, and his advisors.

    once again, if he mispoke, why not correct them right then and there. makes me believe they didnt know at the time axlerod said that in november

  178. Al Says:

    Al, this was very funny!

    I am back for a few minutes and wanted to catch up. As for someone saying Obama will come out smelling like a rose . . . only if he doesn’t tick off Governor Rod. If Obama comes out with some sort of statement “denouncing the Gov” or tries to act above him, you can bet the Governor will sing like a bird just to get back at Obama!

    *************************************************************

    Good day, Foxy. Agree with your sentiments wholeheartedly regarding the tightrope Mr. Obama may have to walk in regards to carefully crafting any statements about Governor Blagojevich. The next 48hrs should be very interesting, Foxy, as the minefield in Chicagoland is on extreme edge to say the least.

  179. jjones Says:

    gotta love it when the crooks eat their own
    🙂

  180. Troy Says:

    Fitzgerald has to work as fast as he can….When Osama Bin Biden gets into the White House, Fitzgerald will be replaced.

  181. Troy Says:

    jjones Says:

    December 9, 2008 at 10:47 pm
    gotta love it when the crooks eat their own
    ————————————————————
    Yes, I never knew canabalism could be so comical.

  182. sliderblaze Says:

    how do i take a screenshot of a quote and past it here? anyone, anyone

  183. jjones Says:

    slider… simple CTRL-C and CTRL-V wont work?

  184. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Slider – Wow, who would’ve thought that!? Oh yeah, that was someone up thread…we sure have a sharp bunch around here. What a predictible moron.

    Here are some ways for Obama to try to diffuse this situation:
    1. “You just can’t find good help anymore.”

    2. “That crazy Axlerod. You should go to Biden’s house when he and Ax are hanging out. Man, the stories those guys tell. Ha ha ha ha (tic)”

    3. “I don’t know what he is talking about. Such a typical white guy. Always putting words in my mouth – I would fire him, but he’s got too much dirt on me. Ooops, did I say that out loud?”

    Come on, let’s have a little fun, let’s help the guy out…let’s come up with more excuses for the inevitable problems that are going to pop up for That One! I know you have some good ones, Troy

  185. j.b. Says:

    “I am not the man I thought I knew”

    🙂

  186. sliderblaze Says:

    i know that jones, i mean in the gray box type thingy, i wanna post some quotes from comments obots are leaving, it’s quite commical

  187. thinkingmom11 Says:

    the first part of my reply is responding to Sliders comment about someone on the Obama team denying what axlerod said…I really need to learn to type faster…sorry if that came out weird….

  188. sliderblaze Says:

    just like what J.b. did

  189. Troy Says:

    I wonder what Obobo had to “pony-up” when he got that senate seat….If it is worth a F***ing lot now, then it was worth a F***ing lot back then!!!!

  190. Troy Says:

    Slider,
    just mouse-drag / highlight and then copy and paste

  191. Troy Says:

    Come on, let’s have a little fun, let’s help the guy out…let’s come up with more excuses for the inevitable problems that are going to pop up for That One! I know you have some good ones, Troy
    ————————————————————-
    Obama’s Defense: I have Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD).
    All of those bad people were associations of Barry’s…I, Barack, strongly condem them and personally wished that Barry would take a hike and leave me alone!!!….Furthermore I say, Barry, stop eating my waffles and arugala!!!!….BTW, It was Barry that had sex with Larry…I umm, duh, duh, umm strongly condem that as well…Stoooopid Barry!!!!!……Doh!!!!!

  192. sliderblaze Says:

    ace.mu.nu/

    this is funny…..

  193. thinkingmom11 Says:

    LOL slider – Obusdriver!!

  194. j.b. Says:

    slider-you have to type this (without the spaces),

    copy and paste your quote here, then

    to end the quote. Does that make sense?

  195. sliderblaze Says:

    Ace opines on this issue,

    “Pay to Play” hmmmmmmm

    “Dan Riehl notes, via Amanda Carpenter, that in the list of earmarks he requested, $1 million was requested for the construction of a new hospital pavilion at the University Of Chicago. The request was put in in 2006.

    You know who works for the University of Chicago Hospital?

    Michelle Obama. She’s vice president of community affairs.

    As Byron noted, “In 2006, the Chicago Tribune reported that Mrs. Obama’s compensation at the University of Chicago Hospital, where she is a vice president for community affairs, jumped from $121,910 in 2004, just before her husband was elected to the Senate, to $316,962 in 2005, just after he took office.”

    Looks like that raise was worth it.”

  196. j.b. Says:

    Dammit! I put spaces in between and it worked anyway!
    I’ll try again.

  197. sliderblaze Says:

    j.b. not at all…lol

  198. amy Says:

    TM.. Ata is muslim who lost his job right after 911 because of his name being almostlike ATTA.. He was indicted for corruption of some sort andis in present He tried to implicate Rezko and the governor.. It was in Subplots of Boardgames in chicago news last year.

  199. j.b. Says:

    First type

    Then your copy and pasted quote-right click, click on copy, then paste it where you want it.

    To end the quote (and get it in the box) you have to type this next,

    Without the spaces in between the word or the <.

    oaky, I hope this worked………

  200. amy Says:

    So!!! Obama did NOT know the governor was being investigated.. He didnt know Rezko was being investigated when he had him help buy his mansion either (even though it was all over the Chicago news)..Obama didnt know Rev Wright said “Those Things”.. He didnt know..he didnt know..Yea, right!!!

  201. sliderblaze Says:

    j.b. do i put the < bfor or after the quote?

  202. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Thanks Amy.

    I am envisioning Obama as Jason (of Jason and the argonaughts) and all of his skeletons are coming out of the closet – it’s gonna be a battle royale!

  203. sliderblaze Says:

    misspoke, translation…..shiiiiiiiiiiiit

  204. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Amy – I know! Either Obama is a liar or he is an incompetent, completely clueless idiot…

  205. j.b. Says:

    Dang it! I got thrown off and I just re explained the whole thing. Really well!

    Okay, copy paste quote then,

    Now, the word = blockquote.

    Try that.

  206. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Amy – I know! Either Obama is a liar or he is an incompetent, completely clueless idiot…

  207. sliderblaze Says:

    so i’m typing the word equal? with blockquote after it?

  208. j.b. Says:

    it will not let me type the action (even tho I am purposely doing it wrong but with explanation), without doing the action.

    You are getting ONLY pieces of what I am typing. That is why it is not making any sense! How frustrating.

    These symbols keep disappearing for exam[ple; <
    What is that< called?

  209. sliderblaze Says:

    Change you can believe in?

    ups truck you can chief in!!

    nice grap, where are the storing it…lol

  210. j.b. Says:

    so i’m typing the word equal? with blockquote after it?

    No, but I can understand why you think that!

  211. sliderblaze Says:

    call it less than and greater than….

  212. sliderblaze Says:

    like this perhaps…maybe?

  213. sliderblaze Says:

    ok, i put a quote in between them and it dissappeared…lol

  214. sliderblaze Says:

    >Change you can believe in?

    ups truck you can chief in!!

    nice grap, where are the storing it…lol<

    how about this way

  215. sliderblaze Says:

    nope….lol, and apparently i’m posting too quickly…haha

  216. j.b. Says:

    less than bl0ckquote greater than
    the quote goes here
    less than / bl0ckquote greater than

    I substituted a zero for an o. you need to use an o in the word blockquote.

  217. amy Says:

    Did the news have anything about the press club thingy yet?

  218. sliderblaze Says:

    <blockquoteChange you can believe in?

    ups truck you can chief in!!

    nice grap, where are the storing it…lol

    testing

  219. j.b. Says:

    The forward slash sign (/) before the word blockqu0te ends the quote.

    omg-does that help? I refuse to let this computer beat me!

    Apologies to all who are having to suffer throught this tutorial!

  220. sliderblaze Says:

    <blockquoteChange you can believe in?

    ups truck you can chief in!!

    nice grap, where are the storing it…lol

    testing

  221. sliderblaze Says:

    wait, something is amiss here…lol read directions…then post. damn multitasking

    The forward slash sign (/) before the word blockqu0te ends the quote.

    omg-does that help? I refuse to let this computer beat me!

    Apologies to all who are having to suffer throught this tutorial!

  222. sliderblaze Says:

    good stuff jb good looking out

  223. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Wooo Hoooo! VICTORY IS YOURS!!!

  224. Foxtrot Says:

    Obama supporters/surrogates are now claiming that Illinois Governor was in fact trying to extort Barack Obama and claim that Obama Chief of Staff Rahm “Dead Fish” Emmanuel turned in the Governor. What is it with the Obama camp always claiming they are the victims? Obama’s former classmate was accused by the Obama campaign of trying to extort money from Obama but never reported it to law enforcement, instead they reported it to the Chicago Tribune! Then Robert Gibbs claims I or someone claiming . . .
    =============

    If this is true, Obama better watch out! This is the kind of crap that will make the Gov turncoat on Obama! What an idiot!

  225. sliderblaze Says:

    i have seized victory from the jaws of stupidity

  226. j.b. Says:

    You need to put the greater than sign after the word blockquote. So the word blockquote begins with the less than sign and ends with the greater than sign .

    Then to END the quote you do the same thing evcept you have to have the / before the word bl0ckquote. The / tells the ‘puter that the quote is ended.

  227. Foxtrot Says:

    Troy Says:

    December 9, 2008 at 10:33 pm
    If Blago has reason to believe that Rham and Obam had something to do with it, then Blago is going to break it off in their arses by spilling his guts to Fitzgerald.

    ============

    Exactly, Troy!

  228. j.b. Says:

    Oh, good, you got it! So if you want to BOLD then do the same thing except ALL you need is the letter b iside the <‘s. For italics? Same deal but with an i. Obviously those are much easier because you don’t have to type a whole big ass long word!

  229. sliderblaze Says:

    foxtrot, not to sound like a racist, but, that is the way the black and liberals are taught to think, forever the victim. I’m always teasing my friends when we play basketball about it and they wanna start blaming others on why they didnt make their shot. We all get a good laugh. (yes they are all black) They make fun of me too when i block a shot “oh, just like the ‘man’ always trying to keep a black man down”

  230. Foxtrot Says:

    An Obama aide, speaking on the condition of anonymity, took back David Axelrod’s remark last month that Barack Obama and Rod Blagojevich had spoken recently.

    “What the president-elect said today is correct, David Axelrod misspoke,” the aide said.

    ==============

    What did I tell you in my earlier post? Is this not exactly what I said he would say? Unbelievable!

  231. sliderblaze Says:

    they have become pretty predictable Fox sad state of affairs indeed

  232. Foxtrot Says:

    sliderblaze Says:

    December 10, 2008 at 12:00 am
    foxtrot, not to sound like a racist, but, that is the way the black and liberals are taught to think, forever the victim.
    ========

    Slider, what did I tell you about lumping people into categories as if they are one collective mind? That goes for both the “black” and “liberal” in your statement. I am a liberal Democrat, and I know many others like me who don’t buy into Obama as the “be all, end all”! I also have many black friends who are attorneys, doctors, business owners who don’t think they are victims. Quite the contrary, they busted their butts to get where they are because they believed that every American can make it if they put their mind to it.

    I’ll let this one slide (if you’ll pardon the pun” but the next time “I oughta’ . . .” Hehe!

  233. jjones Says:

    Fox,
    the really scary part is not that people will fall for that crap ( he mispoke) it’s that they really know people WILL !

  234. Foxtrot Says:

    Slider — how much coverage has the MSM given this?

  235. Foxtrot Says:

    jjones Says:

    December 10, 2008 at 12:08 am
    Fox,
    the really scary part is not that people will fall for that crap ( he mispoke) it’s that they really know people WILL !

    ===========

    That is a true statement. It is a belief that Obama has run his entire campaign around. So far, he has been successful!

  236. sliderblaze Says:

    the mispoken part or the Blago in general?

  237. Foxtrot Says:

    Did MSNBC or CNN cover this story and question Obama’s involvement at all?

  238. jjones Says:

    Fox,
    One thing is for sure, they really know the level of intelligence of the majority american public. Somewhere between nascar followers and jerry spinger….

  239. sliderblaze Says:

    FOX next time i’ll add the Generally, but not all clause in there just for you

  240. sliderblaze Says:

    well, seems the msnbc has now changed there top story to the bailout of the auto

  241. jjones Says:

    Sliderr… they are counting on the short attention span of their readers

  242. Foxtrot Says:

    Thanks Slider! 😉

    I will never watch MSNBC ever again, and I wrote them to tell them so during the primaries. They trashed Hillary and Obama could do no wrong. It was so obvious that they wanted Obama to win. They are misinformed pigs, with blinders on!

  243. sliderblaze Says:

    JJ oooow, pretty colors

  244. sliderblaze Says:

    to quote rush “drive by media” and they are def. living up to that name

  245. Foxtrot Says:

    Below is a post from Linda Starr on obamacrimes.com. You gotta give this woman her due! She is one tough cookie!
    ===============

    written by Linda Starr, December 09, 2008

    Then let him release the vault copy of his original birth certificate because what he’s displayed thus far is a proven forgery. I know zip about editing documents or pictures, but even I can see it’s a forgery when magnified. That isn’t going to fly and btw, the suit filed by the military WILL have standing.

    Let me make this perfectly clear, we intend to keep filing suits until SOMEONE does have standing. I was directly harmed by Obama’s nomination. The primary was rigged in favor of him and cheated me personally out of my position as precinct chair and an invitation to replace our county chair. I had to relinquish my chair as I could not uphold my oath and support the whole ticket, knowing Obama is not a citizen. I’m considering asking Phil to file here in Texas on my behalf and name me as Jane Doe, to prevent retaliation by Obama Trolls who have been known to be quite aggressive here. Not that it did one thing to help him here or our party here. We lost ground in Texas with Obama heading up the ticket. After 12 years of working our butt’s off to turn Texas bloue again, we lost ground instead of gained. I told them exactly what would happen here and things went exactly how I predicted.

  246. jjones Says:

    Unfortunately, today’s events will probably pass without much more notice from the MSM… the only place it will be kept alive will be the internet, and those that keep up pressure about it will be labled as right wing kooks and conspiricy theorist.

  247. sliderblaze Says:

    “Rods not the asshole i used to know, he’s a completely different asshole now”

    Wrights not the racist is used to know, he’s a completely different racist now

  248. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Congressman (Rep, CO) Tom Tancredo will be appearing on Overnight AM with Lan Lamphere tonight starting at 9:00 PM ( TUNE IN HERE ) CST to talk about many issues we’ve all heard from Tom in the past as well as a few new issues that none of us have heard about. One of the many issues we’ll be discussing is the eligibility of Barack Obama as President of the United States, Immigration and him potentially running for Gov of the State of Colorado in 2010. Don’t miss this show! It will be ground breaking.

  249. Foxtrot Says:

    The problem with our case in believing that Obama is NOT a natural born citizen is that people perceive that “crazies” are the point men presenting the evidence or filing the suits! The press will never take the story seriously unless they hire a good PR person to assist them in conveying the complete story, without going off on ‘crazy’ tangents! Honestly . . . did any of these people take Public Relations 101 in college . . . GEEEEEZ!

  250. Foxtrot Says:

    Is this Senior or Junior? If it is Junior, look out!!!

    http://web.archive.org/web/20010121110500/http://www.hawaii.edu/speccoll/arch/univphoto/txtlist.htm#BB

  251. Foxtrot Says:

    Is this Senior or Junior? If it is Junior, look out!!!

    (h t t p: / / in front)
    web.archive.org/web/20010121110500/http://www.hawaii.edu/speccoll/arch/univphoto/txtlist.htm#BB

  252. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Troy – it’s up to you…find Linda Starr and get her the heck outta Texas! Get her to move to Colorado or something. PLEEEEEEASE leave my Texas red! Where will I go if CA falls into the ocean??? HUH!

  253. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Fox – that is for Sr. Obama AKA Opapa

  254. thinkingmom11 Says:

    LOL slider

  255. Troy Says:

    TEXAS WILL NEVER GO BLUE!!!!!!

  256. thinkingmom11 Says:

    check out Drudge – where does he get these pictures??? Obooba looks like he is gonna hurl…

  257. Foxtrot Says:

    Thanks Mom! Could not find a date on it.

    As for Linda Starr, she better be watching her back and make sure her car brakes are in working order! I’d be scared to death if I were her!

  258. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Texas better not go blue before I go code blue!! Huh, Troy.

  259. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Maybe She and Blagoyousnitch should go into hiding together. I hope blago has protection….

  260. sliderblaze Says:

    Troy, texas going blue is directly proportional to how many illegals cross over the boarder and vote

  261. Troy Says:

    If Texas ever goes blue I’ll eat a frog’s butt…It ain’t happenin’

  262. Foxtrot Says:

    No, Mom, Linda wants to expose Obama and the Gov has protected him all this time. However, that may change now since he will want to save his won neck. Can we say “cooperation with the Feds”?

  263. hockeyfan530 Says:

    was Fitzgerald asked by anyone in the media whether or not bambam was aware of anything going on with blago?

  264. sliderblaze Says:

    the count on google news

    DEMOCRAT governor blagojevich arrested 966
    governor blagojevich arrested 3166

  265. Foxtrot Says:

    Hockey, as I said earlier, Fitzgerald and the Feds would never even inkle as to what they may have on Obama, if anything, as it would only serve to weaken their case. They are lying in wait for Blagojevich to sing. I think Rezko already did. The Feds know they need absolute, concrete proof Obama was involved in underhanded dealings in order to get a conviction. Heck, even they know how he seems to escape all of the accusations thrown at him, regardless of proof! If there is a case against Obama, you can bet they are making sure every “T” is crossed and every “I” is dotted!

  266. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Fox I think both of them are in trouble. Blagoyousnitch is too self-centered to sacrifice his comfort or freedom for ANYONE – I think if he has anything on Obama and if he thinks Obama or rahm had anything to do with taking him down – he’ll take them down with him. Linda – I don’t know anything about her other than what she claims to be. Do you know her personally Fox? cuz I’m not a doctor but I play one on the internet…If you know her, then I will give her some credibility.

  267. Troy Says:

    Harris or Blago will definitely drop a dime on Barky.

  268. thinkingmom11 Says:

    slider one of the first things I said was about how I figured he must be a democrat because there was NO little -D after his name. If he was Republican they would’ve stuck that little -R every time they printed his name!

  269. Troy Says:

    I don’t know Linda Starr, but I did stay un a Holiday Inn Express last night.

  270. Foxtrot Says:

    I don’t know Linda Starr personally, but she did come up with some incredible investigative evidence about Bush 8 years ago. My friends within the party say she is “an animal” when it comes to research and it is always 100% reliable. Her “digging” skills are second to none! I have to give her credit! As I said yesterday, both parties have “consultants” like this that we hire to dig up “dirt” on candidates. It has been going on since campaigns have been in existence. However, she seems to go the extra mile and find things that most people thought were dead and buried. If this woman says she has “smoking gun” type of evidence that will blow this case right out of the park, I believe her! For what it is worth.

  271. Lyn Says:

    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/09/michelle-obama-is-the-specifically-named-individual-on-page-64-of-the-affidavit-submitted-by-fbi/#comment-1085586

    Michelle Obama Is The “Specifically Named Individual” On Page 64 of The Affidavit Submitted by FBI

  272. Foxtrot Says:

    Troy — you are too funny sometimes!

  273. Troy Says:

    Hehehe

  274. Lyn Says:

    darn sorry about linking wrong
    noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/09/michelle-obama-is-the-specifically-named-individual-on-page-64-of-the-affidavit-submitted-by-fbi/#comment-1085586
    Michelle Obama Is The “Specifically Named Individual” On Page 64 of The Affidavit Submitted by FBI

  275. hockeyfan530 Says:

    anyone heard of Jack Wheeler? on this site(i’m still reading) he says he has the true story” about Obama’s birth situation, and it is “wild,” but he – and the contact person who also runs a major news site and told him the facts – are apparently not yet prepared to reveal this shocker to the public. Wheeler said he will let the source of the information reveal it in his own time. ”…The details of what he told me is for him to reveal when he chooses, not me. I can tell you it is OMG wild.”

  276. Lyn Says:

    Hockey I read th aparagraph somewhere earlier today and was wonderring the same thing, but don’t remeber where i read it , didn’t it have something to do with Corsi?

  277. hockeyfan530 Says:

    i read it on here

    canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/6830

  278. Foxtrot Says:

    Jack Wheeler is probably Korir in disguise! LOL!

  279. hockeyfan530 Says:

    i like he calls bambam “Zero” or NMP (not my president)

  280. thinkingmom11 Says:

    HFan – google ol’ Jack Wheeler he is quite the character…

  281. Lyn Says:

    I read it on atlas shrugged, but found him tothepointnews.com/

  282. rosettasister Says:

    If I don’t make it back, good night, good people!

    Found at Jeff Schreiber’s blog:

    “Is there still hope?”

    Rep. John Linder’s (R-GA) Reponse to “Natural Born” Query

    « on: December 08, 2008, 01:58:59 PM »

    Thank you for contacting me with your concerns regarding allegations that U.S. Senator Barack Obama is not a U.S. citizen. I appreciate hearing from you.

    This story has been percolating in the media for a number of months. Unfortunately, unless Senator Obama produces the documentation on his own, at this time, there is no way to verify if he is in fact a natural born citizen of the United States. [emphasis mine]

    On January 8, 2009, both the U.S. Senate and House shall meet for the purpose of counting and certifying the electoral votes. After the vote has been counted, the President of the Senate shall call for objections. It is at this time that Federal officials in both the House and Senate may object to the certification of President-elect Obama by alleging that he fails to meet the Constitutional requirements to serve as President of the United States.

    Please be assured that I will continue to monitor this issue very carefully, and I will act when appropriate and necessary.

    Again, thank you for contacting me. If I can be of further assistance in the future, please do not hesitate to call on me.

    Sincerely,

    John Linder
    Member of Congress

  283. hockeyfan530 Says:

    yeah, ive been reading things on wheeler. SOme of what i’ve read are true but sad. Reading an article of his when he was saying Obambi is finished over the Rev Wright thing. Honestly, I thought he was done too. But somehow, someway he escaped that unscaved. Man that p*&&es me off still!LOL Haven’t really found anything recent on him yet

  284. Troy Says:

    I emailed Congressman Linder last night…I would urge eveyonr to do the same…Simply Google “Contact Congressman John Linder” and you will get his contact form

  285. thinkingmom11 Says:

    you gotta pay to read his blog….at least the newer stuff anyway. He isn’t THAT interesting…

  286. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Thanks Troy. I would contact mine but, alas my Senators are Boxer and Feinstein. My rep is no better….maybe I can write someone elses..

  287. hockeyfan530 Says:

    this is the wheeler article from another site

    the main part is, yes corsi and farah are his sources he was refering to:

    They suspect that the real truth Zero is hiding may be even more bizarre than what everybody thinks. I’ve known Joseph for many years and the details of what he told me is for him to reveal when he chooses, not me. I can tell you it is OMG wild. ( My guess ….. Illegitimate offspring of Malcolm X and an unknown mother, with Dunhams simply being useful idiot foster family.)

    whole article is:

    messageboards.aol.com/aol/en_us/articles.php?boardId=455943&articleId=714923&func=6&channel=News&filterRead=false&filterHidden=true&filterUnhidden=false

  288. hockeyfan530 Says:

    my senator is McKaskill…think i’ll get anywhere with her? LOL

  289. Troy Says:

    Congressman Linder’s contact info:

    http//
    linder.house.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=ContactJohn.ContactForm

  290. Lyn Says:

    thinkingmom11 Says:

    December 10, 2008 at 1:36 am
    you gotta pay to read his blog….at least the newer stuff anyway. He isn’t THAT interesting…

    yep I shut it when I saw you had to pay too

  291. Troy Says:

    thinkingmom11 Says:

    December 10, 2008 at 1:39 am
    Thanks Troy. I would contact mine but, alas my Senators are Boxer and Feinstein. My rep is no better….maybe I can write someone elses..
    ————————————————————-
    I simply lied on the form and said I was Georgia…Just a lil’ white lie of course

  292. Lyn Says:

    so since Blago was saying his wife was more qualified tio get a board seat than MO and used her as an example (according to NQ) hopefully he will spill who gave MO that position in payment for what

  293. hockeyfan530 Says:

    i emailed Bond. I guess i could email McKaskill, LOL, that will do absolutely no good. In my letter to bond I mentioned the connection between Obama’s dual citizenship (it’s british but Obama, on his site, claims it as Kenyan citizenship) and his campaigning for Odinga in 2006. That connection is exactly why dual citizens cannot be president in my book

  294. hockeyfan530 Says:

    emailed McKaskill too…So if i don’t turn up here anymore you have clues as to what may have happened to me. LOL

  295. Troy Says:

    I just read the NoQuarter article….It’s time for these Obama mutha effers to go to jail….I want some freakin just served, by Golly!!!

  296. Tenacity Says:

    Neal Turner, plaintiff in Keyes/Orly case on Plains Radio with Joe Thunder.

  297. Troy Says:

    Congressman on with lan lamphere / Obama ineligibility

  298. sliderblaze Says:

    the count on google news

    DEMOCRAT governor blagojevich arrested 966
    governor blagojevich arrested 3166

    now

    the count on google news

    DEMOCRAT governor blagojevich arrested 1048
    governor blagojevich arrested 4375

  299. Troy Says:

    Replace Democrat with Republican and it would be a million hits

  300. sliderblaze Says:

    yeah, seems to be growing in opposite direction here only an increase of about 90 to over 1000 in the last couple of hours

  301. hockeyfan530 Says:

    i just forked over my 10.95 to fed ex the electoral college…

    Slider,
    Can i borrow 10.95? LOL

  302. sliderblaze Says:

    lol, i just got robbed, i need to replace about 6K worth of stuff i was gonna ask you for some $

  303. sliderblaze Says:

    maybe when i win this lawsuit i’ll “spread the wealth”

  304. hockeyfan530 Says:

    have you guys heard of the other PA case James D. Schneller against obama?

    thebulletin.us/site/index.cfm?newsid=20216623&BRD=2737&PAG=461&dept_id=576361&rfi=8

  305. sliderblaze Says:

    i just asked if they had a pdf of the document

  306. j.b. Says:

    now

    the count on google news

    DEMOCRAT governor blagojevich arrested 1048
    governor blagojevich arrested 4375

    Lookatchoo wit-cho blockquotin’ self!

    *that sure is some disparity in #’s, eh?*

    Dang, who farted?

  307. sliderblaze Says:

    i learned from the best you kno

  308. Troy Says:

    It was me….oops!!!

  309. sliderblaze Says:

    Dang troy smells like a decomposing body, your suppose to take the gerble out when ur done dude

    haha

  310. Troy Says:

    As Gere would say, “mmm…gerbles”!!!!

  311. j.b. Says:

    i learned from the best you kno

    At first I thought you were talking about farting, then I saw Troy’s comment………….:)

    Hey, now that you are a blockquoting pro, isn;t it funny how difficult it was to get the translation? I mean, well, it is to me………

    I’m tired of Blago already. C’mon arrest The Top Thug.
    Shit. I just gave Obama his next career move/choice.
    Right to NBC (the network) with MY idea he’ll go. Just watch.

  312. Troy Says:

    I guess granny will have to raise the, as Eddie Murphy would say, chiddren when Bo & Mo are both led away in cuffs.

  313. j.b. Says:

    Oh, I get it. You’re trying to turn this into your own private blog………..well, it’s working.

    Hey, both you guys bought a letter from WND, right? Did I read that they are going to send ALL the letters to every elector?

  314. Troy Says:

    Obama’s girls can co-author a new book,
    “Felonies of My Father”

  315. Troy Says:

    Did I read that they are going to send ALL the letters to every elector?
    ———————–
    Yep

  316. Troy Says:

    I can guarantee you that Fitzgerald already has evidence on Bo and Mo and is keeping it tp himself for now…He is going to let Barky dig his hole deeper and deeper.

  317. j.b. Says:

    Obama’s girls can co-author a new book,
    “Felonies of My Father”

    Or, “The Audacity of Hope”…… As in, “I sure hope my Daddy ain’t no crook”.

  318. j.b. Says:

    I can guarantee you that Fitzgerald already has evidence on Bo and Mo and is keeping it tp himself for now…He is going to let Barky dig his hole deeper and deeper.

    Yeah, I hope you’re right. I was thinking he stopped it all before Obambi got too far in.

  319. j.b. Says:

    Fitzgerald looked like he was going to cry……..

    Obama? Tic(k), tock, tic(k), tock……..He ain’t right. Dude needs a vacation. Wait, didn’t he just get back from HI? Or was that a rumor?

  320. CJ Says:

    Troy I sure agree on that. There’s more to this story than we have been told. I just hope Fitz isn’t like some of the others who have covered for Obama and will bury the truth “for the good of the country.” The citizens deserve the truth even though most of them wouldn’t look for the truth if it was hand delivered by Obama himself. This nightmare needs to end soon “for the good of the country.”

  321. Troy Says:

    BamBam got to far in long before he ever ran for pres.
    Have you seen the new article at NoQuarter?…BoBo is toast!!!

  322. Troy Says:

    Fitz doesn’t play the political games…He’s a pitbull.

  323. j.b. Says:

    Have you seen Larry S’s site today? He has a big ass pic of the book cover and an excerpt from an Obama insider, warning him and asking not to be identified. I think I am going to buy the book-just to help Larry out, ‘cuz that’s how I roll………:)

  324. Troy Says:

    The blood dripping on the hand was a nice effect, I thought.

  325. j.b. Says:

    BamBam got to far in long before he ever ran for pres.
    Have you seen the new article at NoQuarter?…BoBo is toast!!!

    I started reading it, but then I got ADD or somethin’, well, actually I already had ADD, but………nevermind……….goin’ back now.

  326. j.b. Says:

    Fitz doesn’t play the political games…He’s a pitbull.

    Look at what he did to Scooter Libby. I thought that was total overkill. Which is why I figgered he was a big ‘ol Democrat!

  327. Troy Says:

    Nobody is off limits to him….he likes the body counts.

  328. Troy Says:

    All I want for Christmas is an inmate…Only inmate Obama and Axelrod will do…Lalalala

  329. Troy Says:

    http//
    www
    youtube.com/watch?v=w5vQgKRmnuU&feature=related

  330. sba1872 Says:

    businessweek.com/election/2008/blog/archives/2008/12/will_blagojevic.html

    First comment references Evelyn Pringle’s series.

    It’s beginning to look a lot like Fitzmas ev-erywhere I go.

  331. j.b. Says:

    blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/12/questions-arise.html

    Here’s Jake Tapper’s take……..pretty good background coverage. Honestly, I think JT is the ONLY MSM I ever bother to read and or believe.

  332. j.b. Says:

    Who is Pringles?

  333. Troy Says:

    she’s that potato chip gal

  334. Troy Says:

    Lmaooo

  335. j.b. Says:

    That was waaay too easy…….

  336. sba1872 Says:

    j.b.,

    Didn’t want to cut and paste because it’s so long. But Evelyn Pringle wrote a 5 or 6 part series. Just Google “Curtain Time for Barack Obama” or read the first comment at Businessweek. She had written that Blago was actually supposed to be the Presidential candidate and then BO was substituted at some point. I had never read anything like this before or since and I don’t know her sources.

  337. ddlew Says:

    You can bet that Blagojevich aint going down without spilling whatever beans he has on Obama OR Michelle.

  338. sba1872 Says:

    Somebody posted snippets at freerepublic today:

    freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2145855/posts

  339. j.b. Says:

    Thanks, sba, I just read something very similar at Hillbuzz, I thiink. Will ck it out tomorrow………..nitol.

  340. j.b. Says:

    Oops, it was in the Tapper article………….Head. Hurts. Too. Much. Info………

  341. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    foxy
    you read the local paper for the 9th……. article about bam bam’s citizenship

  342. sliderblaze Says:

    anonymous
    December 9, 2008 08:21 PM

    I hope that the former sen. Obama gets in there and finds out what is going on wrong and fix it, reverse the Patriot Act, close Gitmo and restore some respect and dignity to this great country that my grandfather fought for many years ago.

    Thank you

    this comment from the site
    businessweek.com/election/2008/blog/archives/2008/12/will_blagojevic.html

    Ah yes, i see the mentally handicapped are weighing in on this one.

  343. sliderblaze Says:

    so Fox and friends had mancow on this morning, it was interesting, they asked him what chicago is talking about. Mancow laid it out like this

    They, chicagoians, know that city is dirty, not really all that suprised, thats how politics is done there.
    Brings in Obama and Rezko, rezkos fingerprints are all over this, Obama is mentioned all over it and says that you dont rise up in chicago as fast as Obama did with out being crooked. Also goes to say, just wait, read between the lines.

    of course brian and steve were uncomfortable about saying obama was crooked after stating that chicago is corrupt basically. and went on to say that this has nothing to do with Obama and no allegations are against him.

    this d1k sucking continues.

  344. sliderblaze Says:

    i’ll keep posted on what he say on the radio, i forgot how funny dude is

  345. sliderblaze Says:

    Wnd petition jumps to nearly 180,000, about 5,000 petitioners added yesterday alone

  346. sliderblaze Says:

    Mancow tried to call Jesse jackon jr. He had no comment, suspect he may be Senate
    candidate number 5
    For those that dont know, Mancow lives in chicago

    all this is my own words but, you get the idea

    -sam zell all over this indictment.

    -Calls out Dick Durbin for saying he barely knew him, false.
    states that when Blago did something good, Durbin was always “there”
    -Obama cant rise in such a corrupt machine without taking part, get real.
    -Blago and Rezko have been in crosshairs for years…all this latest stuff in indictment since only oct.
    kinda stuff, so, how deep does it go?
    -Everyone around obama is a “dirtbag”

    lol

  347. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Morning, anyone here yet?

  348. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Fox is showing Axelrod on their mroning news! Shows Obama lies. Shows Axelrod lies!

    Liars Liars, pants on flaming fires!

  349. jrinNC Says:

    Morning Pepper – well it looks like I missed a big day yesterday. Been reading all the info posted here – WOW

  350. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    One of the guys on Fox just pointed out that Oprah is from Ill. too—again I ask, what good can come out of Illinois? Don’t flog me. I have good friends in Ill. I’m speaking of these politicians and I consider O a pol.

  351. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Morning my good NC neighbor. Yep…big day– I usually miss the evening garb because I take that time with my hubby.

    I hope they have the goods on O with these Blag tapes. I bet Rahm caught wind of this though and he had them put the brakes on it all. Just to make O smell like a rOse! I don’t think it’s happening.

    O is just not presidential material! Just goes to show you can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear!

  352. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    I had to change hats, the Bragov. stuff got me so riled up! Axelrod is trying to back-peddal out of the mess, but then they have to get Rahm Emmanuel to back peddal a little faster out of his interview around Jan. with the Times. All that bp’in is going to make for some interesting days ahead!

  353. jrinNC Says:

    If I were Axelrod I would be P..sd big time. Hey Rahm is just as crooked as the rest. Looks as if Bama will be Chicken Little before too much longer. God is still in control and his ways are not our ways and we wanted him outed thru his BC, but see what has now cropped up – more to come. HURRAY

  354. jrinNC Says:

    I have a cousin who sent me this info yesterday – don’t recall seeing it on here but found it interesting – He didn’t give me a web link or I would post that. Also it showed a map of the US and it showed Prez race broken down by county – Wow it was all RED (McCain) but the problem with all this stuff is because of the Electoral College (which I think is unfair). Anyway very interesting:

    “INTERESTING FACTS —–

    Some unreported stats about the 2008 election

    Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul , Minnesota ,

    points out some interesting facts concerning the 2008 Presidential election:

    -Number of States won by: Democrats: 20; Republicans: 30

    -Square miles of land won by: Democrats: 580,000; Republicans: 2,427,000

    -Population of counties won by: Democrats: 127 million; Republicans: 143 million

    -Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Democrats: 13.2; Republicans: 2.1

    Professor Olson adds: “In aggregate, the map of the territory Republican won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens. Democrat territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in rented or government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare…”

    Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the “complacency and apathy” phase of Professor Tyler’s definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation’s population already having reached the “governmental dependency” phase. “

  355. jrinNC Says:

    The president-elect was blunt and brief in addressing the case on Tuesday:

    “I had no contact with the governor or his office, and so I was not aware of what was happening” concerning any possible dealing about Blagojevich’s appointment of a successor.”

    Gee, this kind of sounds like Clinton “I did not have sex with Monica…..” And then we all know what happened with that – he finally admitted the truth.

    What goes around comes around – His chickens will be roosting very soon too.

  356. jrinNC Says:

    Citizen Wells reports – “Lt Col Donald Sullivan, TRO, NC Electors, Temporary Restraining Order, Stop NC Electoral College vote, Judge Baddour, Wake County Superior Court, Raleigh NC, December 10, 2008 –

    Lt Col Donald Sullivan will appear in Wake County Superior Court, Raleigh NC, on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 with his TRO, Temporary Restraining Order, to attempt to stop the Electoral College vote in NC until Barack Obama’s eligibility can be confirmed. Lt Col Sullivan is scheduled to appear before Superior Court Judge Baddour at 2:15.”

  357. hockeyfan530 Says:

    jr,
    that’s awesome. I think any military personnel should have standing. A Lt. Col. no less! YIPPPPEEEEE

  358. hockeyfan530 Says:

    there’s another case in PA posted last night. This little bc sitiation “ain’t” goin’ away quietly.

    Have you guys read articles from conservatives that basically says the people spoke on Nov 4…so we have to move on from all of this bc stuff? That simply p*&&es me off! Their thought is “hey, if you can get away with trampling the constitution go for it!”. And who was it here that got the response email from his/her senator/congressman saying that the public vetted Obama on Nov 4! WOW! That’s great logic. I believe a contract is null and void if fraud is proven. Shouldn’t an election be held to the same scrutiny? Unbelievable that the people have to now fight for the constitution but the powers that be seem to think they don’t have to!?

    Oh, and good morning everyone LOL

  359. sliderblaze Says:

    volokh.powerblogs.com/posts/1228903890.shtml

    the timeline on Blago

  360. jjones Says:

    Hey anyone…
    Was there supposed to be something happening on the Berg case today?

  361. sliderblaze Says:

    iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2008/12/breaking-feds-seize-blagojevich-ebay-account.html

    screenshot of the Illinois senate seat up for sale, lmao

  362. thinkingmom11 Says:

    LMAO slider – that is TOO funny – and the discription is hysterical!!

  363. sliderblaze Says:

    i kno right

  364. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    I know we have a smorgasborg of faith views here, but since we are all allowed to express ourselves, can I just ask that everyone here please pray for Lt Col Donald Sullivan today between 2:00-3:00 est? I’m sending out a mass email to friends and family and my own supporters to ask for prayer. I wish there was a way to get a viral email out for this. I think we need to move the powers of heaven on this—nothing would please me more than if this rebellion against the anti-constitutionals took place right here in the good old Southern state of NC– maybe then some of these other states would have the brass to follow suit!

    Yes! this may just call for a new hat!

  365. thinkingmom11 Says:

    What is killing me is the flippant attitudes of the Obobbleheads!! In reading the comments after articles, they are just saying crap like “I thought the rumormongering was over.” or “Silly wingnuts acting so childish after losing an election.” etc. It is beyond incredible to me how they can so blindly follow this corrupt, empty-suit of a man!

    I hope Blago-yasnitch rolls over on him. There is NO WAY Obama is clean as a whistle after coming out of the Chicago Machine. Maybe we should have a bake sale and offer to help “relieve” Mr. B’s “finacial pressure” so he can relax and sing more!!

  366. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Will do, Pep.

  367. sliderblaze Says:

    well one could hope that the bobbleheads blindly follow him right off the proverbial cliff singing obama rules, obama rules

    remember billy madison, “o’diol rules”

  368. hockeyfan530 Says:

    news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081210/ap_on_go_pr_wh/illinois_governor_analysis

    In this article it states that Obama and Gov. B were never close and ran in different circles.

    Didn’t I read that bambam supported Gov. B in 2002? I thought I also read other things that shows bambam and B. were indeed close and they did run in the same circles.

  369. sliderblaze Says:

    he was supposidly a top advisor to him, it came from the AP Fan, tells you everything you need to know, print out that page and use it as a shit ticket

  370. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Hfan – I read somewhere that O, Ax and Blago met WEEKLY during the 2002 Gubernatorial race. They were kind of bragging at how involved and instrumental Obama was in getting Blago elected. Of course this was before Blago became such a friggin’ drag! The Chicago Political environment is a very tight circle – you either run in it – or you take your tennis shoes and go home.

  371. sliderblaze Says:

    atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/

    interesting reading as always

  372. sliderblaze Says:

    like they say, “follow the money”

  373. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Not AX – actually RAHM!!

    blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/12/09/how-close-were-blagojevich-and-obama.aspx

    This blog has the text that I had read in it…

  374. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    State Senator Barack Obama (D-Chicago): …right now, my main focus is to make sure that we elect Rod Blagojevich as Governor, we—

    Jeff Berkowitz: You working hard for Rod?

    Barack Obama: You betcha.

    Jeff Berkowitz: Hot Rod?

    Barack Obama: That’s exactly right. You know, I think that having a Democratic Governor will make a big difference. I think that I am working hard to get a Democratic [state] senate and Emil Jones President, replacing [Republican Senate President] Pate Philip and once all that clears out in November, then I think we’ll be able to make some good decisions about the [U. S.] Senate race.

    Jeff Berkowitz: So, you want to see a Democratic State Senate, a Democratic State House, a Democratic Governor—

    Barack Obama: I am a Democrat.

    Jeff Berkowitz: Is that balanced? And I thought we wanted a fair and balanced approach to things.

    Barack Obama: I am a Democrat.

    Jeff Berkowitz: Card-carrying Democrat?

    Barack Obama: Card-carrying Democrat. I really believe that the core Democratic philosophy is one that is—you know—really helps working people, and hopefully you know, we’ll be able to make sure that we carry out a mandate in this next election in November [2002].

    Public Affairs with Jeff Berkowitz, June 27, 2002

    just http .jeffberkowitz.blogspot.com/2008/11/obama-blagojevich-rezko-fitzgerald.html

  375. Foxtrot Says:

    Hello everyone! Can only stay for about 20 minutes but I wanted to peek in to see what is going on.

    JAC – no, I did not get the paper from the 9th. Did it cover the story? If it did, I bet it was calling it a “conspiracy theory”, right?

  376. hockeyfan530 Says:

    how much crap is going to come out on bambam? Stuff that should have been investigated before the election and during the primaries. But nope, the media turned a blind eye to everything about this clown! How many people have you heard say about bambam “unless it’s covered by the media it’s just smears”. I tried to tell my friends that supported bambam that you won’t hear it on the msm. FOX did do some digging but when it got really serious, like the BC and bambam’s eligibility they bailed too.

    Now look at the mess this nation is in!

  377. sliderblaze Says:

    boneill said:

    Blago is a Cubs fan. Obama is a Sox fan. No way they were dealing with each other.

    It’s the Chicago way.

    i really hope dude isnt serious, if so

    what a dbag, and there you have it folks, a voter

  378. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    .akpmedia.com/partners/daxelrod.html

    a little interesting reading here from Axelrod’s own site..his background, connections–

  379. sliderblaze Says:

    One of Obama’s Earmark Requests Was for the Hospital That Employs Michelle Obama

    Dan Riehl notes, via Amanda Carpenter, that in the list of earmarks he requested, $1 million was requested for the construction of a new hospital pavilion at the University Of Chicago. The request was put in in 2006.

    You know who works for the University of Chicago Hospital?

    Michelle Obama. She’s vice president of community affairs.

    As Byron noted, “In 2006, the Chicago Tribune reported that Mrs. Obama’s compensation at the University of Chicago Hospital, where she is a vice president for community affairs, jumped from $121,910 in 2004, just before her husband was elected to the Senate, to $316,962 in 2005, just after he took office.”

    Looks like that raise was worth it.

    any bets on who’s MSM memory is jogged first about this old story?

  380. Foxtrot Says:

    If this doesn’t clue in the MSM that they have sorely dropped the ball on Obama before the election, then I don’t know what would! The MSM wanted Obama in so badly, then were willing to ‘look the other way’ on almost every facet of Obama’s past and his connections/associations. As an amateur historian, I can tell you that this election will go down in the history books as the biggest debacle of journalism in the history of journalism!

  381. sliderblaze Says:

    FOX

    fo sho…..

  382. sba1872 Says:

    Got this link from a noquarter comment. Guess somebody DID meet with somebody the day after the election about filling the empty suit’s empty Senate seat:

    connecttristates.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=217582

  383. Foxtrot Says:

    This was a post from Berg’s legal assistant on another blog. Very well put!
    ============


    written by bergs assistant, December 10, 2008

    If anyone in here was asked to prove their citizenship status, I’m sure no one would have a problem. Why doesn’t Mr. Obama just show his creditentials, where he was born, where he regained any citizenship status he may have held prior to becoming a “natural” citizen of Indonesia? Why doesn’t Mr. Obama a/k/a Soetoro produce his court documents where he legally changed his name from Barry Soetoro to Barack H. Obama, Jr.? If Mr. Obama is so concerned for America and the citizens then don’t you think he would want to end this litigation and just provide the proof to knock out any doubts his supporters and non suppoers may have? There is truly an easy fix to these issues.

  384. hockeyfan530 Says:

    without a doubt. The media ran the “greatest” campaign in political history. The media won the election more than bambam. Bambam just made pretty speaches, the media did the rest.

    And by “greatest” i mean diabolical and corrupt

  385. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    They weren’t willing to look the other way, they designed “the other way”– look at Axelrod’s webpage that I posted above–Chicago Trib– etc.

    When you walk out into a field and you see little pattys with steam rising, you can tell the bull has been this way. Al could probably confirm that!

  386. Foxtrot Says:

    PLEASE READ!!!!!! Okay, I know this is longer than a normal post but it is truly a “telling” comment from Linda Starr:
    ===============
    written by Linda Starr, December 10, 2008

    You’re asking for a legal document that proves Obama is in fact Barry Soetoro, a citizen of Indonesia? I have been telling you all the records were not sealed that prove Obama was legally Soetoro’s child. Some of you have been ridiculing me while I had to keep silent about the evidence. There’s more I can’t discuss here. I’ll tell you as soon as possible.

    Anyway, I can now tell you that Phil Berg & his Assistant Lisa acquired Barry’s mother’s divorce papers from Lolo Soetoro in which we see listed 2 children of the parties of the marriage, one over 18 and one under 18. We know Ann Dunham Obama Soetoro only had two children – Barry and Maya. Even in those days, a step child who was not the legal child of one party in a divorce would not be listed as a child of the parties of the marriage. They would either not be lsited at all, or be listed as a child from a previous marriage. Surely you do understand the legal difference? This is a legal certified court record. Like I’ve been telling you, not ALL the records of this man are sealed. When crimes are committed, there are always loose ends one can not go back and tie to prevent getting caught. There’s more he can’t seal before jan 20th, and we are after them.

    Let me explain to you now about why we know the PI hired by Corsi found out BO wasn’t born in either of the two hospitals he and his sister claim. His mother is deceased and her hospitalization records would not be sealed. We can’t ask if he was born there, but Cori’s PI could find out his mother was NEVER A PATIENT IN EITHER PLACE! If she wasn’t a patient, then he couldn’t have been born there.

    That means he and his sister LIED about where he was born because he was born in Kenya. it also says to me his sister supplied her COLB (she was a foreign birth in Indonesia and registered in Hawaii) for someone to forge. Someone got a copy of her COLB on June 7, 2007. Maybe even she got and altered it for her brother because it isn’t a very good forgery? TADA! The noose is tightening around the lies about BO’s birth and citizenship.

    His legal name is STILL Barry Soetoro, and he is a legal citizen of Indonesia since he was born in Kenya. And the big bombshell will be coming out in the next week. I strongly suggest you keep watching Patrick Fitzgerald for the next week. I can’t tell you what will happen, but I can tell you to watch him closely, especially in light of the arrests today of BO’s political buds.

    Phil Berg did not pull this suit out of thin air. The circle around BO’s lies is tightening. I believe he is going to be arrested very soon. He can’t very well be sworn in if he’s in jail in Illinois. Do you really think Chief Justice Roberts won’t put a stop to this nightmare? Or Scalia, Thomas, Alito, or Kennedy? I know what evidence Phil has acquired. I can’t talk about it, but it’s real.
    I wouldn’t be crowing with glee too loudly right now if I were some of you who has hurled insults and cast aspersions on me and Phil’s integrity.

    You’ve all had a grand time at our expense, but this is nothing to celebrate proving ourselves right. This is about our Constitution. Why do you really think Clinton and Biden haven’t resigned their senate seats yet? Do you think they know something about the truth the DNC is desperate to hide? Inquiring minds want to know.

  387. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    So Foxy, what do you think about my new hat– stars and stripes a plenty!

  388. hockeyfan530 Says:

    sba,

    That’s really weird. I thought Obama said he hadn’t spoken with blago about this. I must have taken it out of context. I, and millions of others, tend to take a lot of things Obama says out of context. When are we going to learn LOL

  389. Foxtrot Says:

    Another gem from Linda Starr. Can this get any better? Whoo Hoo!
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    written by Linda Starr, December 10, 2008

    Hawaiian officials did not say that the document Obama has released on his website is legitimate. They said they have his original on file. Look, no amount of digital scanning in the world could put his sister’s name embedded underneath his on the digital imprint. It’s a clear forgery. And just because YOU haven’t been privy to the identities of the experts, doesn’t mean they aren’t identified in the court documents, unwilling to testify, or any other of the many accusations some of you have made. We aren’t releasing the evidence to your demands. You don’t seem to understand our evidence or our resolve. This isn’t going away and what is about to happen wasn’t necessary if he’d withdrawn and not put this country through this mess. The leadership at the DNC are just as guilty for not stopping it when it would have prevented this mess. The DNC were so hell bent on having BO, they rigged the primary to favor him as far back as April 2004 when BO came to Kerry’s attention. We will not stop until the truth is fully exposed.

  390. Foxtrot Says:

    Patty — your hat is still pink and white on my computer!

  391. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Pep – all I have is a black box still…sometimes it takes a while for avatars to “propagate” I guess…

  392. sba1872 Says:

    Yes, Hockeyfan. You really must educate yourself to WORM (What Obama Really Meant).

  393. rosettasister Says:

    Good morning, America! How are you?!

    New Thread:

    https://rosettasister.wordpress.com/2008/12/10/%e2%80%9can-exercise-in-patience-logic-the-obama-citizenship-question%e2%80%9d/

  394. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Wow, Foxy thank you for that from Linda. Yes, I had read somewhere else several weeks ago that Barry was listed (not by name) on the divorce papers.

    BO will never take the seat of POTUS. I believe that the usurper is about to be politically and legally “assinated”… the bullet will not be from a weapon of the traditional kind, but from the legal kind.

    I just wonder if the Dems will not “take him out” to prevent a really big fiasco… I don’t think they will let him go to jail, and to sing a jail bird’s song. I think he would be singing a very “grave” tune if they thought he might sing their song!

  395. hockeyfan530 Says:

    Oh fox,

    Can i give you a big old hug!? I couldn’t wait for the next time L. Starr said something! Thank you so much for posting it.

    I still don’t get it though. Obama specifically said he was born in Hawaii. There I go again, taking something out of context. Bambam will say something like “where i was born is unimportant. We need to focus on the issues”. The MSM and bambamonites will agree and brush this under the rug too…LOL…Not this time!

  396. CJ Says:

    Isn’t it amazing how the msm is now jumping this story like a starving dog with a bone? They are beginning to finally realize they will not be able to cover for the One much longer so they are lining up to cross over and grab the financial gains. This should be really interesting to watch. Wonder when the investigations of Biden and his credit card buddies will surface. Will the msm do the complete turn coat dance or will they keep trying to hold their fingers in the dike of Obama’s legacy of deceit and fraud? I’m betting on them jumping ship because they need the dollars to keep going. How many papers in bankruptcies now? This is too rich. The DNC may be about to reap what they have sown. Obama will learn that he isn’t the only one that can throw unnecessary people under the bus whenever it suits him and his purposes. Hope he likes road burn on his a**.

  397. Foxtrot Says:

    Hockey — of course Obama will try to snake out of it, as he always does. However, as I have said on numerous occasions, if Linda Starr says she has something BIG, she has something BIG! I can’t wait to find out what it is. She says we should hear this week. Interesting that she also says for us to watch Fitzgerald closely. Hmmmmmmm.

    ANYONE COMING IN NOW, WE ARE ON THE NEW THREAD LISTED A FEW POSTS ABOVE.

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