Carry On My Wayward Daughter

by

sam_weber

New York-based artist Sam Weber’s work is amazing, tapping into dreams, visions, and fantasies from every wayward mind.

http://www.sampaints.com/

http://artequalswork.com/2008/11/a-case-for-logic/

Policing a design to perfection is, again, a rational, conservative process of elimination. Even the most liberal, rule-breaking designer must buckle down thoughtfully labor the details. As once said by Antoine De Saint-Exupery, and continually exemplified in the most successful of designs: “Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.” Politics aside, is that not the essence of conservatism?

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From Chlipala

The Day Begins – Moody Blues

Phil Berg Barack Obama Ron Polarik Jeff Schreiber

279 Responses to “Carry On My Wayward Daughter”

  1. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    1sttttttttttt

  2. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    snoopy dance…….. lol….. somedays I’m just not right

  3. thinkingmom11 Says:

    So sounds like from that article that we shouldn’t expect to hear anything from the SCOTUS tomorrow…? Bet the “We the People” press conference is boycotted by the Obama crew…that is kind of a no-brainer…felt stupid even typing it! As if anyone thinks he/his lawyers is actually gonna show up… ROFLMAO

  4. ladyliberty Says:

    maybe that is when Berg will release his information.

  5. hockeyfan530 Says:

    well this is terrific

    A month before he becomes president, Obama already has inspired a national naming craze and a holiday in one Alabama county. What can he possibly do for an encore?

    These people are writing history that hasn’t even happened yet. Let’s assume…i can’t believe i’m saying this…obama does get into office…I’m going to be sick…need a drink and a trashcan…but he ends up being everything we fear he will be. He takes down america as we know it and these people are already praising him….That’s probably why you don’t see a lot of Hitler Highs in germany.

  6. thinkingmom11 Says:

    This is on obamacrimes.com now:

    We understand everyone is eager to learn what occurred on December 1, 2008, at the U.S. Supreme Court. There is a rumor claiming Mr. Obama was Court Ordered by Justice Souter to turn over his birth certificate by December 1, 2008. This is NOT true.

    When a Petition for a Writ of Certiorari is filed the Defendants automatically are given thirty (30) days to respond. They are not required to respond. The end of thirty (30) Days in the Berg v. Obama case was December 1, 2008. Keep in mind, the Defendants could have mailed in a response to the Petition for Writ of Certiorari and the Court allows approximately a week for mail. If this is the case, the envelopes must be postmarked December 1, 2008.

    In the afternoon, December 1, 2008, Lisa, Mr. Berg’s Assistant contacted the U.S. Supreme Court and spoke with the Clerk. The Clerk informed Lisa Mr. Berg’s Petition for Writ of Certiorari would be distributed to all nine (9) Justices and a conference should be set within ten (10) days. As I’m sure you are aware, during the conference the Justices will discuss Mr. Berg’s Petition for the Writ of Certiorari and decide whether or not to grant or deny the Petition. It only takes four (4) out of nine (9) Justices to agree to grant Mr. Berg’s Petition for Writ of Certiorari. The Justices can also make other Orders during the Conference.

    Mr. Berg’s Office also learned the Solicitor General is only representing the Federal Election Commission.

    Additional documents will be filed within the next couple of days. All Legal briefs will be posted on our website, so please continue checking back for updates.

  7. jeanniejo Says:

    oh, sisterrosetta — what a lovely page — my longtime traveling companion – 😉

    I could stay here all day listening to some of my favorites —

    I especially enjoy the Moody Blues and Kansas

    http://www.afro.com/tabid/456/itemid/2273/Thomas-breaks-custom-forces-court-to-look-at-Obam.aspx

    Thomas Refers a Previously Rejected Case Challenging Obama Eligibility

  8. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I wonder if the “Linda Starr” information will be coming out anytime soon? OR Maybe after Obama responds he will reveal what he knows (if anything)… I wanna know now, anyone else?? I know silly question…but I do wonder when or if Berg will release this info the mysterious Linda Starr claims he has…

  9. jrinNC Says:

    Ever wonder why the Secret Service calls Obama “Renegade?”

  10. rosettasister Says:

    jeanniejo Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 12:30 am

    “I especially enjoy the Moody Blues and Kansas”

    ————————-

    I keep telling my son the musician, jj, that the Moody Blues were better than the Beatles.

    But he’s not having any of it!

    (I guess we have two jj’s here.)

  11. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Is that right jr.? Seems an odd name for that duck…

  12. jrinNC Says:

    Yes, see article in Washington post back in June 2007:

    washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/16/AR2007061601079.html

  13. jrinNC Says:

    I just wonder if that code name is indicative of anything.

  14. rosettasister Says:

    justanamericancindy4 Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 12:12 am

    snoopy dance…….. lol….. somedays I’m just not right

    ————————-

    Hilarious!!!

  15. hockeyfan530 Says:

    you know it’s nice to have the API saga behind us. I really think that was set up to discredit this whole business. To make us look like wing-nuts if you will. The saddest part about it is that I could totally see M. Obama saying everything she said.

  16. jrinNC Says:

    you got that right hockeyfan – I had many sleepless nights over that situation. I don’t even go there anymore.

  17. hockeyfan530 Says:

    I think it will be shocking if SC decides not to hear the case. They are there to uphold the constitution. This is NOT about standing. It’s about the constitution. And a hamster with a note tied to his leg should be able to call this to the attention of the SC and it should still be their duty to decide what the constitution means by natural born citizen. But I didn’t think Obama would have made it as far as he has…so I could be wrong…Let’s pray i’m not

  18. jeanniejo Says:

    sis — I love this one:

    The Moody Blues – I Know You’re Out There Somewhere

    I like to reflect on the title in regard to those of my long term “friends”. We have been and are still allied in regard to our our mutual interest.

  19. hockeyfan530 Says:

    jr,
    me neither. I had hope at first because it made perfect sense why she would make such a call what with the Kenyan connection, odinga and the Obama’s. Plus, like i said, i can definitely see her saying ALL of those things

  20. rosettasister Says:

    rosettasister Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 12:52 am

    ahrcanum Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 12:45 am

    Everybody is accepting donations these days including Obama. What a bunch of horse hockey. Sign my petition and donate is ridiculous.

    Democrats and Republicans have turned profit into a dirty word while us taxpayers bailout companies to the tune of trillions. We’re cutting coupons to eat while a$$holes are planning inaugural parties and keeping the bars open late.

    ——————

    Welcome, ahrcanum!

    I will copy this to most recent thread which is here:

    https://rosettasister.wordpress.com/2008/12/05/carry-on-my-wayward-daughter/

    You should be able to post at will now.

    Rosetta

  21. jrinNC Says:

    If they do decide to not hear it, we can just about forget trying to do anything to bama man. I will be heartbroken to know our country will be worthless. All the blood, sweat and tears shed for this country will all be in vain. Makes me wonder if our men and women in uniform will think the same thing.

  22. rosettasister Says:

    jeanniejo Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 12:51 am

    —————

    Thanks, jj!

    goin’ to watch it right now.

  23. hockeyfan530 Says:

    you know jr, i was just thinking that same thing. I was in the army over 20 years ago. Mostly because i felt to die for something I believed in and loved, my country, is the best way to die. I was in the infantry so i was serious about being willing to die for my country. But if i were a serviceman now i don’t know if i would feel the same. Not because i don’t love my country but because i don’t know like where we are going. If the SC refuses to uphold the constitution what would a be dieing for? Does that make any sense?

  24. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    sometimes I wish this blog was private… and secure….

  25. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I so much wish the millitary would file a suit against bam bam

  26. jrinNC Says:

    It makes perfect sense. I retired from the Govt with 32 years of service. I use to feel I was lucky to be part of this nation as I worked in a very sensitive area. I am also still in contact with those who have enlightened me to things going on right now that most are not aware of. Believe me when I say they are scared. So what does that do to me?????? It makes me pray harder that God will intervene. Satan thrives in the arena of ambiguous change. If Satan can keep people in a constant state of change, they never arrive at anything. Nothing is conclusive, there are no reference points, and eventually all indices of truth are lost. Change, in and of itself, means that nothing is certain! And that is where we are today – nothing is certain.

  27. Tenacity Says:

    Did anyone actually read that AFRO article that jjo posted? Their so-called legal experts are blind, deaf and dumb to what the Constitution says. They quote their titles and affiliations as though that gives validity to their nonsense. They either don’t have a clue or they believe the readers are just ignorant and will believe anything.

  28. Tenacity Says:

    jr,
    You need to check out what Orly Taitz’s firm is committed to do. They intend to file suit every time BO flinches to use any Presidential power. They intend to challenge his authority every minute of every day until he is proven to be a Natural Born Citizen = a citizen by no other cause, born on U S soil by two (2) U S citizen parents.

  29. Foxtrot Says:

    Okay. I am back. Did you secure World Peace and solve the Financial Crisis while I was gone?

  30. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Yea, Tenacity. I read it and kept thinking WHY can none of these people get it right!!?

    Anyone else wanna know what jr. knows…

  31. jrinNC Says:

    Tenacity, well I know that I will write my senators and congressmen every time he does something as well. I have a family member who has blasted me up one side and down the other for my efforts. Claims I need to “grow up.” LOL – All I do is repeat to them the following line stated by Abraham Lincoln – “You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.”

  32. thinkingmom11 Says:

    No Fox but I got dinner cooked!! Which will lead to family peace. It was homemade soup which contributes to personal financial security as it was cheap! But hey, it IS a step in the right direction…

  33. hockeyfan530 Says:

    fox,
    i solved world peace and was typing the solution but you came on and asked….now i lost my train of thought. Damn it! The world says thanks for nothin’

  34. jrinNC Says:

    LOL – if I told you all I know I would have to kill ya – That was the line that was embedded in my brain for 32 years. Lets just say, please prepare yourselves.

  35. rosettasister Says:

    jeanniejo Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 12:51 am

    ——————-

    “I Know You’re Out There Somewhere”

    We all look upon the same moon, yes?!

    Here’s another, jeanniejo and all you Moody Blues fans.

    (One of my favorite albums of all time is a Phil Ochs album. On the cover it says “50 Phil Ochs fans can’t be wrong!”)

    From redbaron863

    Added: November 28, 2008

    from the CD “Blue Jays” 1975 with the singers and composers of the Moody Blues Justin Hayward and John Lodge. With some pictures of german castles.

    Good night, good people!

  36. Foxtrot Says:

    Hockeyfan–I apologize to you and the world. Imagine . . . Hockeyfan was this close (showing my pointer fingers and thumb approximately one inch apart) to having world peace!!!!

  37. hockeyfan530 Says:

    oh, i remember the solution to world piece….HATS! The world needs more hats.

    You are welcome. But if you must name a school after me name it after my dad.

  38. Foxtrot Says:

    Mom–sounds good! My husband loves homemade soup.

  39. Tenacity Says:

    hockeyfan530 Says:

    December 5, 2008 at 1:17 am
    oh, i remember the solution to world piece….HATS! The world needs more hats.

    You are welcome. But if you must name a school after me name it after my dad.
    ******************
    Would that be the Hockings Institute. The grads would be able to make expert quotes at AFRO.

  40. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Me too, especially when it is cold – we are in CA so for us 48 IS cold. I made my own take on the Greek Lemon Chicken soup — smells awesome. Gonna warm up some pita triangles…mmmmmmm good

  41. Foxtrot Says:

    I wrote my Senators and Congressman, called my Senators and Congressman, to encourage them to talk about the Obama birth issue with their colleagues. The ones I got elected agreed that there is something that doesn’t pass the smell test but they state they are powerless (beyond chatting about it with their colleagues) to do anything. Of course, I stated, “If you can’t do something about it, who will?” Most of them were amidst elections of their own so it was low on the priority. I will call them all tomorrow and “call in some markers” to see what can happen here.

  42. Tenacity Says:

    mmmmm….Homemade soup and hotwater cornbread…I’m gettin’ hungry.

  43. Foxtrot Says:

    Mom, are you of Greek descent?

  44. thinkingmom11 Says:

    It wouldn’t surprise me if there were Greek in me somewhere but, no. I am a REALLY typical American mutt – German, Irish, Scotish, American Indian, who knows what else…but I do love me some Greeek food…gyro, spanokopitas, pastitso etc…goood stuff

  45. Foxtrot Says:

    I love Greek food. When we travelled there, I could not get enough of it. The gyros there are spectacular! My youngest daughter just got back from a 6 month Study Abroad in Athens. She is an Archaeology/Anthropology major. Half the time was spent in the classroom and the other half on ancient dig sites all over Greece, unearthing incredible finds! I tried to convince her she needed a chaperone, but she didn’t bite!

  46. Troy Says:

    justanamericancindy4 Says:

    December 5, 2008 at 1:02 am
    I so much wish the millitary would file a suit against bam bam
    ————————————————————-
    Orly Taitz is working on putting together a lawsuit from the military.

  47. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I loved studying Greek history and mythology and always wanted to go to Greece. The furthest from home I have been is Australia. went when I was 18. What an adventure!

  48. Foxtrot Says:

    Troy, that would be awesome! The military would be a tough one to combat in court (if you will pardon the pun).

  49. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Didn’t mean to hit send – some weird key stroke or something…

    Meant to add..but nothing compared to digging around arch sites in Greece – WOW – now that is cool!

  50. Foxtrot Says:

    Mom, I am half Irish- half Italian. What a combo, huh?

  51. Foxtrot Says:

    Mom, yea . . . she was one lucky duck!

  52. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Troy

    that’s good,…….. but it’s still a shame that it wouldn’t be filed until after the judges get together tomorrow

  53. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I’m mostly german and indian …..with a lot of mutt

  54. Foxtrot Says:

    I, for one, am saying my prayers tonite that SCOTUS rules in our favor tomorrow!

    Also, remember, the march/demostration at SCOTUS is taking place tomorrow as well. I hope someone covers it. Wasn’t it supposed to start at 8:30 am? Does anyone remember?

  55. Foxtrot Says:

    JAC – LOL!

  56. Foxtrot Says:

    I would guess if anyone is going to cover it it would be FOX news and the Wall Street Journal. Both of them have mentioned the march.

  57. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Fox

    lol not kidding….
    mainly german and Indian

    but a sprinkle of Irish, dutch, french, greek, english and good old hillbilly

  58. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I used to wish I had an International heritage…I had a friend whose family was from Mexico. They were so close and had such wonderful get togethers – I loved going to their house for parties and celebrations and family traditions. I am glad, though, that I have always just seen myself as an American. I am able to learn about the many facets of my own unique heritage and pick what I think is cool and interesting and incorporate our own family traditions as we go along…

  59. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Fox

    I keep hoping Bill Kristol (sp) over at the national review will pick it up……. they usually don’t spin as bad as other publications…..

  60. Foxtrot Says:

    This was a post on another blog. I am shocked MSNBC even talked about it!

    Jonathan Turley
    written by ImagesGS, December 04, 2008

    Jonathan Turley was just on MSNBC minutes ago discussing the Donofrio case so it is getting some MSM exposure. But Keith Olberman claimed that anyone supporting those cases was a “crackpot” and Turley himself said that the SCOTUS would probably not touch any of these lawsuits. It was a very discouraging story slanted from the liberal media.

  61. Foxtrot Says:

    JAC- I was laughing at the “mutt” comment you made, not your other heritage.

  62. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Fox – i do think the march is at 8:30 am…guess I’ll turn on the FOX News in the am and see if they are covering it…

  63. Foxtrot Says:

    Mom- Me too!

  64. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I know Fox 🙂

    was just proving what a mutt I am

    the hillbilly part is 100% true……… my father’s Mother…… we still have no idea when she was born…. she never had a BC…. raised in the hills of Kentucky until she was 11

  65. hockeyfan530 Says:

    all of the negative press on these cases are so frustrating. It’s as if they honestly believe that because someone doesn’t have standing then the whole issue is just crazy. They NEVER mention the dual citizenship. And that alone makes this 100% legitimate! The bc alone, well, unless there is hard core proof that obama was born elsewhere may seem a little crazy(not to us but i understand how someone can see it as far fetched). But come on, it’s a fact that Obama had dual citizenship. Not to mention the fact that they can’t put the whole indonesian citizenship into perspective.

  66. Foxtrot Says:

    JAC – very cool. My father was a tremendous fan of Blue Grass Music. We used to drive from D.C. to the mountains of West Virginia every summer to hear a Blue Grass Festival they had there. It was not a big organized event but rather the mountain folk getting together to compete. It was incredible! I love Blue Grass Music to this day because of those experiences.

  67. thinkingmom11 Says:

    .worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=82680

    about the push to amend the Constitution of the NBC clause…

  68. Troy Says:

    Fox,
    This is for you…You’ll love it!!!

    http//
    www
    youtube.com/watch?v=icMTVV5Lwaw

  69. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    you know when I lived up in NW Indiana… I was often called hillbilly in a loving way….
    when I was home and it was warm enough…… I was barefoot….. looked at the willy worms to predict the winter…and could tell what the soil needed by the way it smelled when I was gardening… just old fashion rural traits.
    To me a good day is having it warm enough to go for a walk in the woods with my camera

  70. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    has peppermentPatty, Ksinde and gatormom gone to the march?

  71. Foxtrot Says:

    Troy — loved it! Thanks!

  72. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I think the biggest reason I want to see Obambam’s birth certificate is to see what the heck has he been lying to us about. Bill Clinton might have been argue about what the meaning of “is” is but if that BC shows Kenya, he is going to have a hard time ‘splainin’ that one up to semantics! Or if his father is someone different than who he has represented to We the People all this time, or if there is no one on there…Enquiring minds want to know…

  73. ladyliberty Says:

    I am most interested in those college records. While the BC issue is intriguing, the college records will be the most convincing to the doubters.

  74. hockeyfan530 Says:

    lady,
    yes, i agree the college records would definitely be the nail in the coffin IF it says what i think it says. Obama registered as an Indonesian citizen. Obviously I have no proof but i really believe that is what it says.

  75. hockeyfan530 Says:

    it doesn’t take much connecting the dots to see what is going on with Obama. It all adds up. And, you know what, we may be 100% wrong but logic says we are correct. He admitted he wasn’t a good student at occidental. Yet somehow he get’s into harvard? How could he have done that i wonder?

  76. inspirational1 Says:

    just a thought……….my husband has now gone beyond giving time to think about these matters as he said that Americans are sometimes just to nice and don’t question what people tell them.

    He of course is from India, and has seen a lifetime of corruption, bribery, cheating and back stabbing.. he said Obama is not playing American politics but playing with the mindset of a foreigner sneaky enough to fool by his talk..he was so worked up by the election he couldnt sleep, was so disappointed that McCain and Palin didn’t just bring up all the issues.

    I really hope that these judges see the facts and not run with their emotions on this case…The ONE is probrably laughing with Mrs..O…of how foolish people are believing them.

    Oh by the way LOVE the Moody Blues….

  77. Foxtrot Says:

    Yes, the college records are what I want to see too!

  78. thinkingmom11 Says:

    College records – wouldn’t it be great if he accepted financial aid as a foreign student?! No way of getting out of that – he was either perpetrating a fraud then or now…American’s don’t like fraud.

  79. hockeyfan530 Says:

    mom, unfortunately only americans that are informed and care about this country don’t like fraud. Most of the Obama supporters are uninformed and really could care less about the country…Just give me give me give me…and oh, yeah, hope

  80. ladyliberty Says:

    That is what makes me think that those records would show that he was an indonesian citizen. If you don’t have great grades, don’t have a lot of money, and you are clearly an opportunist anyway (as he has clearly shown), than why would he not use the Indonesian citizenship. It is convienent and it is logical.

    My husband told me that he read an article a while back that said that whenever BO was challenged about anything in Chicago that he would sue based on the “hate crimes” legislation in the state. People started to lay off because of the race issue and these laws. Anyone hear anything about that?

  81. hockeyfan530 Says:

    lady,
    i never heard that per se but everytime someone questions him it’s racial according to him and his people.

    I’m thinking rules for radicals myself and he has done just about every play in the book!

  82. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    just posted this
    _______________
    It isn’t about race; it isn’t about party
    It’s about law and the constitution. Go to Factcheck and to Fight the Smears… you will see for your own eyes that Bam Bam has admitting to having dual citizenship.
    You can’t have dual citizenship and be Natural born!
    He has not only sealed his records but has spent over $500,000 to protect a $12 document…He has 3 law FIRMS not lawyers… law FIRMS protecting everything he wants to keep secret.

    Excerpt from Factcheck> In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC) by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the UKC.

    If we toss the laws what do we have? chaos..
    Don’t you want a legitimate President?
    Just release the original BC and the other documents..and get it over with…

    You should be asking yourself WHY is doesn’t rather than why he has been asked to.

  83. ladyliberty Says:

    Political correctness gone crazy! People are so sensitive and worried about offending anyone that it has become generally accepted to not challenge those of another race. I can see how the international community (non-western specifically) would think this is unbelievable. I can hardly believe it myself.

  84. hockeyfan530 Says:

    i just had a couple of thoughts

    1) the hats idea probably won’t work to solve world peace

    2) if Obama followers KNOW that Obama is indeed elligible why are they worried about it?

    IF he really is a natural born citizen then they should WANT the SC to make a judgement on the case. Just to prove we “are” wing nuts. The truth is this technicality may very well nullify Obama and they have to be worried. There is no proof necessary. No BC is needed. Just the facts. Dual citizenship baby!

  85. ladyliberty Says:

    Call me a racist – but I think it IS about race. It’s not because we are racists who are challenging someone because they are black. It is about how far he has been able to get, pleading racism. If he were your average white man who hid his entire history he would be criticized up and down and the MSM would be covering it!! The only thing that makes him untouchable is his race.

  86. ladyliberty Says:

    That’s what I keep telling my BO supporting friends – prove us wrong already!!!

  87. hockeyfan530 Says:

    lady,
    i said the same thing. If Obama were white he’d wouldn’t have made it past the primary. It was calculated by the democratic party. I don’t like the Clintons much but she was 1000% more qualified than bam bam! They knew they could ride the race card to create victims and guilt people into proving that america has overcome racism

  88. sliderblaze Says:

    Lady, you are a racist

    of course that is if the new definition of racist these days is someone who seeks truth…

  89. ladyliberty Says:

    Well – I seek truth, so I guess I should welcome it then.

  90. hockeyfan530 Says:

    finally i voice of reason in this media circus

    gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977526417

  91. sliderblaze Says:

    what……voice of reason…no way

  92. hockeyfan530 Says:

    slider,

    I’m shocked and dismayed….playing the race card LOL

  93. sliderblaze Says:

    funny thing FAN, all my friends are minorities, we always play the race cards on each other, it’s funny to hear us sometimes in that respect

  94. Melissa Says:

    Huge Aha moment for me guys. I have understood the concept all along but haven’t been able to put it together cohesively. I think I have it. It’s a little long but I think it sums it up.

    Fact: We know that the Framers recognized a difference between US citizens and natural born citizens.

    We don’t need to look FOR the definition of natural born citizen.

    We need to be looking AT the definition of a US citizen (which would be what is required to serve as Senator or Representative but isn’t quite enough to let one serve as President).

    14th Amendment:
    Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    This gives the SAME type of citizenship to those who are either:

    1. BORN in the United States

    OR

    2. NATURALIZED in the United States

    A child BORN on US soil receives the same type of citizenship as someone that is naturalized.

    Either could serve in the Senate or House but NEITHER can serve as President because they are only citizens. Not natural born citizens. They receive the same type of citizenship in different ways.

    A child BORN on US soil to two foreign parents is a citizen of the United States.

    A child BORN on US soil to one foreign parent and one US citizen is a citizen of the United States.

    A person naturalized in the United States is a citizen of the United States.

    All Citizens of the United States can serve as Senators and Representatives. They cannot serve as President.

    So, now that we’ve figured out who CAN’T be President, who is left that CAN?

    A person with two US citizens as parents

  95. sliderblaze Says:

    Absolutely Melissa

  96. hockeyfan530 Says:

    my sisters husband is black and he’s not one of those people that can understand irony, sarcasim or just kidding. So i have offended him by things that i have said. Things that i would say to ANY black person…like you like hockey!? That’s not right. LOL

  97. sliderblaze Says:

    haha

  98. hockeyfan530 Says:

    melissa,
    can i give you a big ol’ hug!
    post that everywhere please so everyone gets it!

  99. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Hey Ya’ll! Just been reading all the posts. I was out shopping for new hats today! Got one with jingle bells all around, nice shiny tin– I had to put it on while I was reading all that bogus stuff!

    Just got home and been trying to catch up. I tell you, Al has been playing nasty again! What’s the deal?

  100. hockeyfan530 Says:

    slider,
    did you get punched in the face this year for thanksgiving?

    If not, why not?

  101. sliderblaze Says:

    i think he’s mentally challenged…cant say retarded these days, oops, i just did

  102. ladyliberty Says:

    I have a student that likes to say “is it because I am black” when I don’t let him do what he wants to do. He laughs like he knows that it makes me squirm. It drives me crazy. I am waiting for the lawsuit when he fails because he does not do anything.

  103. sliderblaze Says:

    No drama i was involved in this year, a regular old thanksgiving, we did get a food fight rolling for a good 3 mins

  104. hockeyfan530 Says:

    patty,

    Did you read the post about more hats solving world peace i posted earlier? Sorry, after further thought it won’t work….More hats cannot possibly solve the problem. Sorry….LOL

  105. sliderblaze Says:

    imma hat buff, i got all kinds

  106. Foxtrot Says:

    Hello. Ksinde must be on his way to D.C. for the SCOTUS march/demonstration. Anyone heard if he left? If he does go, he better get his little self on this blog and give us every last detail when he gets back!!!!

  107. ladyliberty Says:

    HF – the hats have to be worn willingly or it could cause a riot.

  108. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Hey HF! Nope, they won’t solve the problem but they “shure” are perty!

  109. Foxtrot Says:

    Al has been away for a while. Hmmmmmmmmm.

  110. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Um, Foxy, Ksinde is a she not a he!

  111. ladyliberty Says:

    Just saw Ksinde on plains radio chat

  112. Foxtrot Says:

    Oops! Thanks Patty. I had a brain fart.

  113. hockeyfan530 Says:

    i really think al was trying to make us see how “ridiculous” we were being with the Obama bc “conspiracy” by coming up with a ridiculous conspiracy theory of his own. But again, he was comparing apples to oranges.

  114. Foxtrot Says:

    Just to get Ksinde chuckling, I should go on Plains chat and say “Rosetta Gang ROCKS!” That will get her back over here.

  115. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    And, Hockey, I read your dossier over on the last page, and I want to travel with you! I thought I had been all over everywhere–but I never get to see the “fun” stuff. I’m always in slums and mud villages and West bank or settlements! Those K. rockets falling all over the beach there on the Mediterranean, bombs blasting–oiy! Give me life or give me—well, give me life!

  116. hockeyfan530 Says:

    pep,
    i’m going to plead ignorance, or just plain stupidity, on this, what are you referring to? LOL

  117. Melissa Says:

    Nobody that is a citizen under the 14th Amendment can be President.

    They all receive the SAME label. “Citizen of the United States’.

    I’m almost positive that Obama’s campaign said he’s a citizen under the 14th Amendment.

    Well, if the Governator is a citizen under the 14th Amendment and HE can’t serve then Obama cannot either. They have the same type of citizenship just under different circumstances.

  118. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Al, I want to know, here I have been out all day and come back to you sniping me, ” Wondering aloud if you and Susan may have been separated at birth, but that’s highly unlikely since you both are accomplished woman in both your own respective rights.” But, Al, if I had to be seperated at birth with someone, I would choose Foxy! Foxy, I have to say, you must have got the —- though cause I missed out in that area!

    See, I wasn’t even here and Al was picking on me.

    I think Al is playing a nice little game of catch–he throws out some curve balls and waits to see how many we are willing to catch.

  119. hockeyfan530 Says:

    melissa,
    yes the obam campaign certainly did use the 14th amendment

  120. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Hey HF, I was sure it was yours I read, but maybe I’m confused. This new hat is a little lopsided right now and I know that Al is sending me some bad vibes!

    I’ll go back and have a look see– bbs(that’s as in soon, like API kept promising!)

  121. hockeyfan530 Says:

    al has a tendancy to ignore the issue that we are actually talking about. THe dual citizenship.

  122. hockeyfan530 Says:

    ok, how many blogs have you registered for in the past few weeks to set them straight?

  123. Melissa Says:

    Okay – this is a succint point we need to spread.

    14th Amendment citizen cannot be President.

    Citizenship under the 14th Amendment is achieved in three ways:

    1. Being naturalized
    2. Being born on US soil to two non US citizens
    3. Being born on US soil to one US citizen and one non US citizen

    If Arnold can’t serve because of #1 then neither can anyone that falls under #s 2 or 3. Barry is a #3. 🙂

  124. Ksinde. Says:

    100% Woman here baby…lol…but sometime i wish i was a man…life would be so much easier!

    Rosetta Gang Rocks!!! lol … Fox is crazy over at plains chat..

  125. ladyliberty Says:

    Good night all! And the Rosetta Gang does Rock!

  126. Ksinde. Says:

    night lady….yes we do

  127. sliderblaze Says:

    nite for now all

  128. hockeyfan530 Says:

    i was thinking the other night how blogs like this is OUR grass root movement. People that fight for what is right without violence, intimidation or corruption. Unlike Obama’s idea of grass roots movement which is, in one word, ACORN!

  129. Foxtrot Says:

    PEP PATTY – YOU ARE RIGHT. Al is somethin’ else!

  130. Ksinde. Says:

    I am leaving at 4:30 am. Pray for me that I don’t get lost…will take pics and Rose & Cindy can post them on their site

  131. Ksinde. Says:

    nite slider

  132. Foxtrot Says:

    Ksinde, you should get to bed since you are leaving at 4:30 a.m. for the SCOTUS demonstration!

  133. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I wonder how many documents are spread out and waiting to dry at bam bam’s house

  134. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Ksinde
    thanks 🙂

    have a good trip,…… and let everyone know that Rosetta ROCKS !!

  135. Ksinde. Says:

    Foxy, I am a night owl who loves expresso!

  136. hockeyfan530 Says:

    jac,

    LOL, nothing to see here folks….just keep moving…I’m not hiding anything that’s for sure…nothing to hide here…

  137. Ksinde. Says:

    thanks Cindy, Oh I will let everyone know that Rosetta Gang Rocks!

  138. Ksinde. Says:

    lol Hockey

  139. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    good grief……. you know how many times I’ve ran my finger over that super tiny smilely face at the very bottem of the page…….thinking I had something on my screen….lol

  140. hockeyfan530 Says:

    i realize that it’s a “technicality” that may stop obama. But I know in my heart there is something seriously not right about him. He has been caught in several lies only to brushed off. I know he does not have America’s best interest at heart. No one get’s caught in at least 5 blatent lies (wright, rezko, kahlid, ayers and ACORN) and hides his entire past without being up to something. NO ONE! LOL

  141. jjones35811 Says:

    cindy… that’s too funny, done it few times myself

  142. Ksinde. Says:

    ok all going to get ready for bed…

    cindy no falling asleep on the keyboard!

    will check in when i get back tomorrow. God i hope there are more then 30 people there like there was at bergs rally!!!

  143. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    K, stay safe! Where are you headed? I’ve been gone all day–people were beginning that you and I had gone marching–course, that was back when everyone thought you were a he!

  144. hockeyfan530 Says:

    and those five associations have one thing in common…anti-american (well maybe not rezko…he’s just a criminal)

  145. hockeyfan530 Says:

    ksinde,
    give them hell!

  146. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Can Any of you listening to Plains radio please summarize the difference between Kreep and Donofrio – screaming kids….TIA!

  147. Melissa Says:

    14th Amendment citizens cannot be President. Barack Obama’s campaign has stated he’s a citizen under the 14th Amendment.

    Citizenship under the 14th Amendment is achieved in three ways:

    1. Being naturalized
    2. Being born on US soil to two non US citizens
    3. Being born on US soil to one US citizen and one non US citizen

    If Arnold can’t serve because of #1 then neither can anyone that falls under #s 2 or 3. Barry is a #3.

    Please spread this around!

  148. Ksinde. Says:

    pep, going to DC for the rally… lol wish u were going.

    will do hockey!

  149. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I thought the guy on Plains was Kreep – I guess it is Cort…

    Thanks for that summary, Melissa – looks great!

  150. hockeyfan530 Says:

    melissa,
    you seem to be preaching to the choir. Did you inadvertantly post mulitple times LOL

    But i like where your heads at!

  151. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Safe travels Ks!

  152. Foxtrot Says:

    It appears that everyone at Plains radio is aware that the ROSETTA GANG ROCKS! Imagine that! I wonder how they know? hehe

  153. hockeyfan530 Says:

    LOL

    Now if we can just get past the fact that ROSETTA GANG ROCKS we can get down to some serious business.

    I love it! LOL

  154. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I about fell out of my chair with your “You can’t post crap, it slides off the nail” (paraphrased incorrectly – I’m sure) comment!! That was gold!

  155. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Someone stated earlier that blogs such as Rosie’s are the real grassroots movement. Blogs such as this have become the real journalism and the real press of today. As the saying goes, “You can fool some of the people some of the time, and all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time–” But, when you have thousands of “journalists” out working a story, then you can’t fool all of the people all of the time.

    The real story is going to be when all of this breaks, how America reacts! That will be the big story. I think it could get ugly! If you look at how a select few acted after the passing of P-8 in Ca. then you can see a microcosm of our society can be violent when they don’t get their way. If this is a sampling of one group, then what will it be when you throw in all of the other self serving groups?

    Boy Scout Motto–be prepared!

  156. Foxtrot Says:

    I have to address some Christmas cards so I am going to call it a night. Remember to tune onto FOX news tomorrow around 8:30 am to see if they cover the march! Say a prayer tonite and wear your lucky underwear tomorrow! We will need all the help we can get!

  157. hockeyfan530 Says:

    guest: any other questions from the callers?

    fox: Yes, why do you believe that ROSETTA GANG ROCKS?

    guest: is anyone screening these damn calls?

  158. Melissa Says:

    I accidentally posted it here twice! Sorry! Multiple windows open. 🙂

  159. Foxtrot Says:

    Hockeyfan — LOVE IT! LOL!

  160. hockeyfan530 Says:

    mel,

    no need to apologize. just wanted to make you aware

  161. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Ksinde

    sorry must of been drooling on the keyboard……

    serious….. be safe and have a good trip

  162. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    FOX

    what underwear??……… I always wear them when I hope to get lucky….. opps I mean hope to be lucky 🙂

  163. thinkingmom11 Says:

    You know, as much as I am grateful for what Leo is doing, I can not listen to him anymore. I just can’t take it. He is getting a little tooo disrespectful to the other lawyers and condescending in his rebuttals when someone questions him. That is one quality in people that makes me CRAZY! I do not think he is the final expert on this subject. He acts as though he has thought it through to every eventuality with perfection in his logic and refuses to even entertain other options. Alright, I am gonna quit doggin’ him….I just can’t listen to him anymore.

  164. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    mom

    you aren’t alone,…… i to wish he was more polished, better spoken….But he is the best egg in our basket at the moment

  165. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Rush said something today about Obama – He is trying to figure out if Obama wants to BE president or just DO president. I thought that was interesting. Seems like he got a tiger by the tail!

    news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081205/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_sidelines

    Man – dems are already impatient with him and he isn’t even PE officially yet! Welcome to the Big Show, Bam Bam!!

  166. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I know Cindy – like I said I am SO grateful for what he is doing and I will NEVER bad mouth him outside of this little community – just feeling a little aggravated with him at the moment. I think I am just a little edgy from this whole thing so I can’t even imagine what HE is going through…so I will cut him some slack…

  167. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    TM, I am bothered by Al. He is on the one hand, a “nice” man with the ability to be charming. Yet, on the other hand, I find many of his remarks to be condescending. I try to hear perhaps a teasing in them, that is not cond. but rather light hearted, but I think he protests too much. What’s your take? I hope I am wrong. If he truly believes that BO is all that he “should be” then why is Al here? I mean, why would anyone who didn’t share the same sentiments within some range of common ground frequent this website? Unless, they are here to A: try to sway people to their “side”
    b: to cause chaos and confusion If it is as Al says, then the gov. already has vetted BO, and regardless of what we hatted madders say, BO will be POTUS–so then what would be Al’s point in being here? I mean, if the gov. knows all, then there’s no need to try to stay the tide here among this small constituency of people. He speaks “peace” and “charm” and “kindness”, but something is amiss.

    Al, come clean about what you have on your mind here, Pal. I mean, Al, farmers see the clouds in the sky, and they know that weather is changing or rain’s coming or snow’s going to blow. They don’t just sit back and say, “Hmmm, there are some clouds in the sky today, wonder what that means. It’s not important because the weather man has it all under control.”

  168. Troy Says:

    Well know a lot more tomorrow or Monday

  169. hockeyfan530 Says:

    i see al’s logic and if he wants to be condesening I could care less. His reasoning and logic are so off that i equate it to a plumber being condicending to a brain surgeon doing brain surgery.

  170. thinkingmom11 Says:

    So true Pep. I guess you caught my post to him. He seems so lawyerly in a way but then conceeds points readily only to reargue points he already conceeded. He is quick with the flattery when you come down on him yet follows it up with either snide mockery or simple insults. He is an odd duck, that Al. He seems to be playing both sides of the story – I have yet to figure him out (but I am sure the fact that I can’t is a source of satisfaction for him 🙂 ). His “charm” is coming off to me as condescension for what it’s worth. He talks in circles when he isn’t chasing you down!

    I love the last paragraph! That is gold!

  171. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    patty

    well,…….. after Jen I went over to MS and seen where they were dissing us…. Al even did one post.. tamer than the others…

  172. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Hockey – I guess we can start calling people who are using faulty logic Al-logical!! Works for me!

  173. thinkingmom11 Says:

    JAC – I don’t even know what to say about Jen… It’s a good thing we are soooo dumb so she can feel soooooo smart and clever. I’ll bet she comes over here when she is having a bad day so she can look down on all of us and feel oh so superior.

    ***Waving at Jen*** You know you are lurking. You just hope we are talking about you the way you all talk about us…sad thing is we have WAY better things to discuss. So this is the last I will say about you, jen.

  174. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Hmmm NBC News is laying off 500 people, according to Bill O’R, saying it’s due to mismanagement.

    Why not just say it’s because people have lost faith and therefore need for MSM!

  175. hockeyfan530 Says:

    well, there’s registration number 387.

    I can’t believe how many blogs i have registered with so i can straighten out there thinking….good times

  176. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Mom

    rose banned her again…..

    . lol she thinks she goofed and might of banned the wrong person,…… she is watching her spam mail to let the person back in.

  177. hockeyfan530 Says:

    i’m a huge supporter of logic. I’m a computer programmer and I know that’s all it takes to figure something out. Logic. And if you use faulty logic you get faulty results…done

  178. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Wow HF – that is dedication! You are a true patriot! Thanks from all of us to you

  179. hockeyfan530 Says:

    there are a lot of duplicates in there because i can’t remember who i registered with LOL

  180. thinkingmom11 Says:

    But you know she comes and looks around for something she can take back to the swamp and share with the other vultures about how stupid, violent or just plain ridiculous we are over here.

  181. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    some good new….. I guess chris mathews has been advised to leave msnbc…
    he was always one of the worst…..

    but guess what?.he might be going into politics….a senator no less.. 😦

  182. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    mom

    oh yes,… according to Jen we have been making threatening post on bam bam’s welfare

  183. thinkingmom11 Says:

    JAC – I saw that the other day. I guess Al Franken is just *such* an inspiration to Chris.

    Maybe they can start a new party: the McIc’s – More Celebrity Idiots in Congress party…

  184. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Thanks, TM–curtsy, curtsy!

    JAC, I went over to read MS one time, way back several weeks ago. I found her to be so abrasive, I just left. Who needs abrasion–to me it was like sitting on the beach naked–just too much sand in places it shouldn’t be–why do it? that would be “al-logical” to me!

    HF–You are super blog hopper!

  185. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I personally wish bam bam a long and healthy life………

    behind bars

  186. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Gotta call it a night y’all. Have to finish planning a science lesson on color and light for tomorrow for about 16 kids. Weeeeeee (pray for me)

  187. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    JAC, I wish him a long life too. I don’t have any ill feelings toward B*O. If he is legit, then I pray he will have a very great and succesful “rule” (as his team puts it). If he’s not legit, I pray he gets everything he deserves! Either way, I hope he gets it all according to what he has earned!

  188. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Patty

    That is what is sad,…… they actually argue good issues…. but their childish, blog police ways……….. are over the top

  189. hockeyfan530 Says:

    no not at all, i just “talk” here regularly but i “google” ‘obama birth certificate latest’ to find new stuff and post when i read something i don’t agree with or agree with to show non-support or support whatever the case may be

  190. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    night mom

    ____________
    patty

    I feel he has the ultimate punishment…… he gets to live with MO as she gets older and uglier …………..lol

  191. j.b. Says:

    americamustknow.com/default.aspx

    Anybody want a blog?

  192. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Hockey

    yep I do the same thing…….. kind of feel it’s my duty to submit to other blogs and news articals that is playing this as a joke.

    try to inject a little truth

  193. ddlew Says:

    So was LEO or anyone on any of the radio stations tonight?

  194. hockeyfan530 Says:

    i really need to get a form response together. Because none of the blogs i criticize get the issue correct. They NEVER mention dual citizenship and they all bring up “Hawaii verified the info”. Which are both untrue. And for the ones that i agree with i just say thank you for posting the facts

  195. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Jen’s changed her moniker on MS to dodo something like that– she must be into birds, she calls us batsh*t crazy, and now she’s a dodo bird, or a doodoo head. I couldn’t tell which.

  196. j.b. Says:

    I feel he has the ultimate punishment…… he gets to live with MO as she gets older and uglier …………..lol

    MO? She looka like a man.

    *which adds creedance to the whole bi/gay/LS thing for BO. imo*

    Say an extra prayer for the SCOTUS and TRUTH.

    night y’all.

  197. ddlew Says:

    You know I thought it was strange that the Hawaii official came out and said that she has seen the birth certificate and the birth certificate is a legitimate Hawaii’n document. (Just out of the blue by the way)

    That was sooo strange to me especially since Barack Obama had JUST visited the islands for his grandmother’s illness.

    The “official” actually said NOTHING (as far as interpreting the information contained on the document) but it was EASY for the media to turn that announcement PURELY into something it wasn’t.

    There is definitely a game being played here and Barack Obama is THE ringleader. What a scumbag.

  198. hockeyfan530 Says:

    Obama has lied, hidden and brushed off everything he’s been questioned about. I’m not sure why people dont see this

  199. hockeyfan530 Says:

    goodnight everyone…say an extra prayer for tomorrow

  200. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    I picked this up…anyone else seen it?

    To Maria T re: API and Michelle Obama tape/s
    written by Linda Starr, December 03, 2008
    Initially, we thought these people were credible. Phil agreed to represent them in order to facilitate the elease of the Michelle tapes to legitimate news forums. The agreement had certain commitments attached to them that Korir and API had to fulfill in order to cement the representation. Korir kept giving us to believe he had taken the necessary steps to fulfill the commitments. After he failed to do anything required to cement the agreement of representation, we painfully came to the realization we had been duped. While he seems sincere, he is in fact an excellent con man and spin doctor. We learned in a public announcement that not only had he not done anything he was required to do, but he had allegedly retained other counsel without even telling Phil anything.

    Believe me, I wanted to believe him as much, if not more, than just about anyone. It is my willingness to believe people at risk that has provided so many opportunities to link whistleblowers with good journalists who will get the stories out in the media. Does it at times set me up to try to help people who are not honest? Yes. But I wouldn’t be so good at networking people together if I weren’t willing to listen when others won’t. It is my willingness to listen that has opened up so many scandals and crimes to the light of day. I hope I never stop listening. When and if I do, I will lose my effectiveness in the cause of truth and honesty. So yes, i risk deception once in awhile. And that is also how and why they were able to deceve Phil and Lisa.

    Alas, we were eventually forced to admit it was a hoax. You know, because of our previous expereriences with opposing powerful political personalities, we could relate to some of the eccentrities of Korir. We chalked it up to his fear of retaliation. I’ve networked a lot of whistleblowers with people like Greg Palast over the years, so I’m used to overly cautious and even paranoid people. I’m used to empathiziang with eccentricities of fearful people. It’s a normal fact in dealing with whistleblowers. We were very sadly mistaken. Maybe because of the doubting Thomas’ I’ve encountered over the years myself when I’ve exposed something, I undrstand how these people think and feel. Because of my experiences and high degree of integrity, I tend to believe other people are just as honest as I am. I even expect strange behaviors, but this is flat out crazy. Phil has had to issue Cease and Desist demands that they stop invoking Phil’s name or claiming he represents them. They are now lying that the tapes were sent to our webmaster. I have known our webmaster for 7 1/2 years. There is not so much as a tracking number linking delivery of any tapes to our webmaster. API cannot produce one that will show they sent anything to Phil or the webmaster. It’s just not true. Sorry. I won’t have lies spread to get them off the hook for all the lies they told everyone who kept hanging on their every word.

    I have since come to the conclusion that this was a deliberate setup to try to damage Phil’s credibility by Obama trolls.

    http://www.obamacrimes.us/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=28:open-comments&catid=1:open-comments&Itemid=3#comments

    Regarding API
    written by Linda Starr, December 04, 2008

    Yesterday, a heated email exchange occured between API’s Sammy Korir and Lisa, Phil Berg’s Assistant. Lisa continues to insist that any agreement they had to represent API was violated by Sammy Korir when he failed to produce the documentation and tapes in order for Phil to negotiate a release. In fact, without telling Phil anything, API allegedly hired two other lawyers, a Canadian and an American, and allegedly proceeded to negotiate with Fox, without Phil’s input or advice.

    API was required by contractual agreement to produce the tapes and documentation to Phil so that he could negotiate a deal for them and facilitate their release of the tapes. In order for Phil to represent them, he had to have the tapes and documentation so he could protect the integrity of the tapes. Fox claims no such negotiation was ever entered or any contact made with API. API never sent anything to Phil or the webmaster, even though they repeatedly claimed to have sent the items. No tracking number was ever provided and DHL, which API claimed was the shipping company, stated nothing was brought to them for shipment or requested anything be picked up.

    Now, Sammy Korir is angry and wants Phil and/or Lisa to stop telling people there are no tapes and this is a hoax. Sammy Korir continues to falsely state things that are simply not true.. He is claiming Phil begged to represent them and other false statements. Phil offered his assistence to API to facilitate the release of the tapes. API did not fulfill their end of the deal to finalize the representation. I see this latest exchange between Sammy Korir and Phil Berg’s assistant, Lisa, as an attempt to commit the crime of extortion by threatening Lisa with suit if Phil or Lisa makes any public statement denying API’s claims of representation. I don’t know what API is gaining from this fraud, but we do not believe they have any such tapes.

    I have urged Lisa and/or Phil to make a public statement denying representation of API. I do think that will be forthcoming in the next day or so.

    http://www.obamacrimes.us/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=28:open-comments&catid=1:open-comments&Itemid=3#comments

  201. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    night fan

  202. ddlew Says:

    Goodnight hockeyfan

  203. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Sorry Rose…should have taken those links out!

  204. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    those links bite ya sometimes when you copy paste something

  205. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Nite Fanny! It will all go as it is supposed to. Sweet dreams!

  206. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    I went over to check out MS and I find this drsharonsh’tz over their posting this garbage–I think she was talking about API, but all the same, ticked me off:

    “There are a lot of people who drop in and out, and many who watch from a safe distance. But, there are those few who you can count on being there day and night, stoking the fires of stupidity.”

    But, from what I can see she was on MS ALL day, and even said her husband went to sleep–she fed him a can of chilli… I had to comment.

    I was disappointed to see Dixie posting there at MS. Hmmm

    Is there no honor among bloggees?

    Hey TM what’s Al’s moniker on MS?

  207. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    patty

    thought you were going to the march tomorrow

  208. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    No, JAC, that wouldn’t be me. I think some thought I was gone marching just cause I wasn’t here today. I had lunch with one of my lovely daughters today, then went C. Shopping. Then dinner with daughter and her little wood fairies. Long day, but lots of fun. I wish I could go to march…but can’t do it.

  209. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    yeah I knew Dixie posted there……. but she came here to…
    she hadn’t been here in awhile….then all of the sudden she showed up today

  210. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Going to post it again, so you can see it:

    I picked this up…anyone else seen it?

    To Maria T re: API and Michelle Obama tape/s
    written by Linda Starr, December 03, 2008
    Initially, we thought these people were credible. Phil agreed to represent them in order to facilitate the elease of the Michelle tapes to legitimate news forums. The agreement had certain commitments attached to them that Korir and API had to fulfill in order to cement the representation. Korir kept giving us to believe he had taken the necessary steps to fulfill the commitments. After he failed to do anything required to cement the agreement of representation, we painfully came to the realization we had been duped. While he seems sincere, he is in fact an excellent con man and spin doctor. We learned in a public announcement that not only had he not done anything he was required to do, but he had allegedly retained other counsel without even telling Phil anything.

    Believe me, I wanted to believe him as much, if not more, than just about anyone. It is my willingness to believe people at risk that has provided so many opportunities to link whistleblowers with good journalists who will get the stories out in the media. Does it at times set me up to try to help people who are not honest? Yes. But I wouldn’t be so good at networking people together if I weren’t willing to listen when others won’t. It is my willingness to listen that has opened up so many scandals and crimes to the light of day. I hope I never stop listening. When and if I do, I will lose my effectiveness in the cause of truth and honesty. So yes, i risk deception once in awhile. And that is also how and why they were able to deceve Phil and Lisa.

    Alas, we were eventually forced to admit it was a hoax. You know, because of our previous expereriences with opposing powerful political personalities, we could relate to some of the eccentrities of Korir. We chalked it up to his fear of retaliation. I’ve networked a lot of whistleblowers with people like Greg Palast over the years, so I’m used to overly cautious and even paranoid people. I’m used to empathiziang with eccentricities of fearful people. It’s a normal fact in dealing with whistleblowers. We were very sadly mistaken. Maybe because of the doubting Thomas’ I’ve encountered over the years myself when I’ve exposed something, I undrstand how these people think and feel. Because of my experiences and high degree of integrity, I tend to believe other people are just as honest as I am. I even expect strange behaviors, but this is flat out crazy. Phil has had to issue Cease and Desist demands that they stop invoking Phil’s name or claiming he represents them. They are now lying that the tapes were sent to our webmaster. I have known our webmaster for 7 1/2 years. There is not so much as a tracking number linking delivery of any tapes to our webmaster. API cannot produce one that will show they sent anything to Phil or the webmaster. It’s just not true. Sorry. I won’t have lies spread to get them off the hook for all the lies they told everyone who kept hanging on their every word.

    I have since come to the conclusion that this was a deliberate setup to try to damage Phil’s credibility by Obama trolls.

    Regarding API
    written by Linda Starr, December 04, 2008

    Yesterday, a heated email exchange occured between API’s Sammy Korir and Lisa, Phil Berg’s Assistant. Lisa continues to insist that any agreement they had to represent API was violated by Sammy Korir when he failed to produce the documentation and tapes in order for Phil to negotiate a release. In fact, without telling Phil anything, API allegedly hired two other lawyers, a Canadian and an American, and allegedly proceeded to negotiate with Fox, without Phil’s input or advice.

    API was required by contractual agreement to produce the tapes and documentation to Phil so that he could negotiate a deal for them and facilitate their release of the tapes. In order for Phil to represent them, he had to have the tapes and documentation so he could protect the integrity of the tapes. Fox claims no such negotiation was ever entered or any contact made with API. API never sent anything to Phil or the webmaster, even though they repeatedly claimed to have sent the items. No tracking number was ever provided and DHL, which API claimed was the shipping company, stated nothing was brought to them for shipment or requested anything be picked up.

    Now, Sammy Korir is angry and wants Phil and/or Lisa to stop telling people there are no tapes and this is a hoax. Sammy Korir continues to falsely state things that are simply not true.. He is claiming Phil begged to represent them and other false statements. Phil offered his assistence to API to facilitate the release of the tapes. API did not fulfill their end of the deal to finalize the representation. I see this latest exchange between Sammy Korir and Phil Berg’s assistant, Lisa, as an attempt to commit the crime of extortion by threatening Lisa with suit if Phil or Lisa makes any public statement denying API’s claims of representation. I don’t know what API is gaining from this fraud, but we do not believe they have any such tapes.

    I have urged Lisa and/or Phil to make a public statement denying representation of API. I do think that will be forthcoming in the next day or so.

    w** .obamacrimes.us/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=28:open-comments&catid=1:open-comments&Itemid=3#comments

  211. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Going to post it again, so you can see it, if it will let me. It’s hard to get these things to let you post sometimes.

    I picked this up…anyone else seen it?

    To Maria T re: API and Michelle Obama tape/s
    written by Linda Starr, December 03, 2008
    Initially, we thought these people were credible. Phil agreed to represent them in order to facilitate the elease of the Michelle tapes to legitimate news forums. The agreement had certain commitments attached to them that Korir and API had to fulfill in order to cement the representation. Korir kept giving us to believe he had taken the necessary steps to fulfill the commitments. After he failed to do anything required to cement the agreement of representation, we painfully came to the realization we had been duped. While he seems sincere, he is in fact an excellent con man and spin doctor. We learned in a public announcement that not only had he not done anything he was required to do, but he had allegedly retained other counsel without even telling Phil anything.

    Believe me, I wanted to believe him as much, if not more, than just about anyone. It is my willingness to believe people at risk that has provided so many opportunities to link whistleblowers with good journalists who will get the stories out in the media. Does it at times set me up to try to help people who are not honest? Yes. But I wouldn’t be so good at networking people together if I weren’t willing to listen when others won’t. It is my willingness to listen that has opened up so many scandals and crimes to the light of day. I hope I never stop listening. When and if I do, I will lose my effectiveness in the cause of truth and honesty. So yes, i risk deception once in awhile. And that is also how and why they were able to deceve Phil and Lisa.

    Alas, we were eventually forced to admit it was a hoax. You know, because of our previous expereriences with opposing powerful political personalities, we could relate to some of the eccentrities of Korir. We chalked it up to his fear of retaliation. I’ve networked a lot of whistleblowers with people like Greg Palast over the years, so I’m used to overly cautious and even paranoid people. I’m used to empathiziang with eccentricities of fearful people. It’s a normal fact in dealing with whistleblowers. We were very sadly mistaken. Maybe because of the doubting Thomas’ I’ve encountered over the years myself when I’ve exposed something, I undrstand how these people think and feel. Because of my experiences and high degree of integrity, I tend to believe other people are just as honest as I am. I even expect strange behaviors, but this is flat out crazy. Phil has had to issue Cease and Desist demands that they stop invoking Phil’s name or claiming he represents them. They are now lying that the tapes were sent to our webmaster. I have known our webmaster for 7 1/2 years. There is not so much as a tracking number linking delivery of any tapes to our webmaster. API cannot produce one that will show they sent anything to Phil or the webmaster. It’s just not true. Sorry. I won’t have lies spread to get them off the hook for all the lies they told everyone who kept hanging on their every word.

    I have since come to the conclusion that this was a deliberate setup to try to damage Phil’s credibility by Obama trolls.

  212. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    and here’s the second part:

    Regarding API
    written by Linda Starr, December 04, 2008

    Yesterday, a heated email exchange occured between API’s Sammy Korir and Lisa, Phil Berg’s Assistant. Lisa continues to insist that any agreement they had to represent API was violated by Sammy Korir when he failed to produce the documentation and tapes in order for Phil to negotiate a release. In fact, without telling Phil anything, API allegedly hired two other lawyers, a Canadian and an American, and allegedly proceeded to negotiate with Fox, without Phil’s input or advice.

    API was required by contractual agreement to produce the tapes and documentation to Phil so that he could negotiate a deal for them and facilitate their release of the tapes. In order for Phil to represent them, he had to have the tapes and documentation so he could protect the integrity of the tapes. Fox claims no such negotiation was ever entered or any contact made with API. API never sent anything to Phil or the webmaster, even though they repeatedly claimed to have sent the items. No tracking number was ever provided and DHL, which API claimed was the shipping company, stated nothing was brought to them for shipment or requested anything be picked up.

    Now, Sammy Korir is angry and wants Phil and/or Lisa to stop telling people there are no tapes and this is a hoax. Sammy Korir continues to falsely state things that are simply not true.. He is claiming Phil begged to represent them and other false statements. Phil offered his assistence to API to facilitate the release of the tapes. API did not fulfill their end of the deal to finalize the representation. I see this latest exchange between Sammy Korir and Phil Berg’s assistant, Lisa, as an attempt to commit the crime of extortion by threatening Lisa with suit if Phil or Lisa makes any public statement denying API’s claims of representation. I don’t know what API is gaining from this fraud, but we do not believe they have any such tapes.

    I have urged Lisa and/or Phil to make a public statement denying representation of API. I do think that will be forthcoming in the next day or so.

    w** .obamacrimes.us/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=28:open-comments&catid=1:open-comments&Itemid=3#comments

  213. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Wizcon I believe Patty

  214. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Thanks JAC, I just wanted to see what he has to say there, compared to what he says here.

    Wonder if BO is pacing the floor tonight wondering how to get his panties out of a knot! If he is legit, I do wish the best for him– however good or bad that is!

  215. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I have been around hateful nasty greedy people in my life…… My dad’s family was the worst when he was dying……
    They never change,…. they just can usually put on a proper face for the rest of the world……. but you know the uglyness

  216. ddlew Says:

    It’s sad that those faithful followers are being mislead like that on API.

  217. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Gotta go to bed everyone! Friday is a brand new day! Sweet dreams.

  218. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    night patty

  219. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    well it’s been a long one…… night everyone…. having your fingers crossed that tomorrow will be a good day

  220. Troy Says:

    Hello Rosetta Gang,
    Wooo Hoooo!!!!….Ol’ Troy Boy has been having fun….I”ve been over at a pro-Oblowme site and have been tearing them a new one….Those little twirps can’t hold up to a legitimate argument.
    I made mince meat of ’em!!!

  221. ddlew Says:

    Where did all of this carnage occur?

  222. Tenacity Says:

    Troy,
    Did you get a single one of the sheep to see any truth?

  223. Troy Says:

    It was a site that was bashing Leo’s case.

    http//
    www
    acandidworld.net/2008/12/03/puma-watch-conspiracy-theorists-still-trying-to-disqualify-the-president-elect/

  224. Troy Says:

    pfffttt….r u kidding?….It’s like talking to a head of lettuce over there

  225. Troy Says:

    BTW….I told them that I (lied) voted for Oblowme to try to gain a little trust….No luck, they still wouldn’t listen.

  226. Tenacity Says:

    Troy,
    did you learn anything new while you were there?

  227. Troy Says:

    Ha!!!….I learned that THE KOOL-AID has not worn off yet.

  228. Troy Says:

    God, I hope Leo wins and we can grind their faces in the pile of crap that Obama leaves in his wake.

  229. Tenacity Says:

    Troy,
    You have more energy and patience than me. When I saw a head of lettuce in my fridge today, it never dawned on me that it might be fun to talk to it.

  230. Troy Says:

    Don’t you mean that you never realized it was an Obama voter?

  231. ddlew Says:

    Lan Lamphere is the biggest, nastiest smelling, piece of b@tsh!t on the internet.

    Since LEO kicked him to the curb he has gone 180 degrees in the other direction.

    If he can’t be a “PLAYER” in this, then he’s taking his ball and going home. What a dork!

  232. ddlew Says:

    TROY

    Here’s the post that I just made over at that website.

    ddlew // Dec 5, 2008 at 2:30 am

    The point of the matter is a simple one.

    The Presidency of the United States is THE ONLY OFFICE that is required, by the Constitution, to be occupied by a genuine “Natural Born Citizen.”

    #1) – Natural Born means that both of your parents MUST be “citizens” (not natural born by the way but “citizens”) of the United States.

    #2) – Your birth MUST occur within the Unites States of America.

    Barack Obama’s father was a Kenyan citizen and therefore a citizen of Great Britain, which really isn’t even THAT important. What IS important is that Barack Obama SR was NOT a US Citizen.

    That’s it. End of story. Over.

    Although Barack Obama MIGHT actually be a “citizen” of the United States (and if so he could easily provide the proof by releasing the vault copy of his birth certificate) he does not qualify as a “NATURAL BORN” citizen.

    The framers of our Constitution SPECIFICALLY made the point that only “NATURAL BORN” citizens could occupy this nation’s highest office. Once they made that decision, they realized that they had disqualified themselves to hold that office because THEY didn’t meet the requirement that they were intending to set forth. So they included one provision that would make them, and their generation, eligible to hold this office. They simply added “at the time of the signing” of this Constitution.

    So unless Barack Obama SR was a US citizen OR Barack Obama JR is AT LEAST 232 years of age, HE DOES NOT QUALIFY under the “NATURAL BORN” status and is therefore ineligible to hold the office of President of The United States.

    There’s nothing to argue over. Either the Supreme Court upholds and defends the Constitution or they don’t. It’s in their hands now. All we can do is wait and see.

  233. Troy Says:

    Yep, he is pretty childish

  234. Tenacity Says:

    I agree that you might as well be talking to a rabid cayote. I am just to the point where I no longer find it interesting to engage the cognitively dead. The frustrating part is that finding anyone that will make a positive change when they hear a truth seems to be harder every day.

  235. ddlew Says:

    This whole thing reminds me of the movie “IDIOCRACY”.

    Did you guys see that one? It’s stupid but EERILY similar to what we see in the actions of today’s society.

  236. Tenacity Says:

    good post dd! I keep thinking that hearing the truth may lessen the rage if and when the SCOTUS does their job.

  237. Troy Says:

    Well here is some good news: OJ Simpson will be sentenced tomorrow!!!

  238. Tenacity Says:

    dd,
    I did not see that. I am daily reminded of C S Lewis’s “Screwtape Letters”

  239. ddlew Says:

    http//wwwyoutube.com/watch?v=L0yQunhOaU0

    Here’s the youtube trailer for Idiocracy.

  240. Troy Says:

    Well it turns out that our country has been through this Obama fiasco before….Chester A. Arthur, 21st Pres. was likely our first usurper….At the very least he lied about his age.

  241. Tenacity Says:

    Troy,
    I want to see a headline that reads, “Obama sentenced to 2 terms of life plus 15 years for fraud, racketeering and espionage.”

  242. Troy Says:

    I’ll settle for just being deported

  243. Troy Says:

    Ha!!!….Oprah asked Palin to be on her show and Sarah told her to jam it!!!

  244. Tenacity Says:

    dd,
    Did you actually sit through that? I hope you waited till it was out on video.

  245. Tenacity Says:

    Palin was made to look stupid by the McCain incompetents. She is nobody’s fool.

  246. ddlew Says:

    Tenacity Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 7:58 am

    dd,
    Did you actually sit through that? I hope you waited till it was out on video.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I am proud to say that I watched via satellite. Showtime I think?

    Yeah….wouldn’t have paid a dime UNTIL NOW! It actually applies now.

  247. Tenacity Says:

    dd,
    I wish you were wrong…

  248. ddlew Says:

    Tenacity Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 8:07 am

    dd,
    I wish you were wrong…

    ++++++++++++++++++++

    You just gotta see it. Yeah, it’s dumb but it is the world that we live in. Actually it’s the world that our children JUST MIGHT live in.

  249. Tenacity Says:

    My 2 youngest are 19 & 22. I told my wife that they might be forced to sign up for the civilian security force and ask what she expected me to do. She suddenly understood what I’ve been saying…get prepared…somebody has to stand up. I will die before my 15 month old grandson is indoctrinated in radicalism.

  250. Tenacity Says:

    Lights out for me…good night

  251. sliderblaze Says:

    ugh, too early

  252. indy500 Says:

    The double standard in the media is incredible. Here’s a small example:

    McCain’s Birth Abroad Stirs Legal Debate
    His Eligibility for Presidency Is Questioned

    “Article II of the Constitution states that “no person except a natural born citizen . . . shall be eligible to the office of president.” The problem is that the Founding Fathers never defined exactly what they meant by “natural born citizen,” and the matter has never been fully tested in court. At least three pending cases are challenging McCain’s right to be sworn in as president.”

    washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/01/AR2008050103224.html

    McCain’s Canal Zone Birth Prompts Queries About Whether That Rules Him Out

    “There are powerful arguments that Senator McCain or anyone else in this position is constitutionally qualified, but there is certainly no precedent,” said Sarah H. Duggin, an associate professor of law at Catholic University who has studied the issue extensively. “It is not a slam-dunk situation.”

    nytimes.com/2008/02/28/us/politics/28mccain.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=mccain%20eligble%20president&st=cse

    A Hint of New Life to a McCain Birth Issue

    “In the most detailed examination yet of Senator John McCain’s eligibility to be president, a law professor at the University of Arizona has concluded that neither Mr. McCain’s birth in 1936 in the Panama Canal Zone nor the fact that his parents were American citizens is enough to satisfy the constitutional requirement that the president must be a “natural-born citizen.”

    nytimes.com/2008/07/11/us/politics/11mccain.html?scp=3&sq=mccain%20eligble%20president&st=cse

    If someone has some time and is willing, it would be interesting to see what leftist blogs were saying about the McCain “natural-born citizen” issue, because the media was all over it.

  253. sliderblaze Says:

    patterico.com/2008/12/04/alito-whacks-biden/

    so we have Thomas being dissed by Obama
    Roberts being voted no by Obama and Biden
    same with alito…..

    not that they are suppose to hold a grudge but, makes it a lil more interesting to thro that out there….just saying

  254. sliderblaze Says:

    foxnews.com/story/0,2933,462207,00.html

    omg, what a bunch of lil b!tches we’ve all become, a burger in the face, i mean, come on, lets just tie up the courts with this kinda nonsense.

  255. indy500 Says:

    sliderblaze Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 12:25 pm
    __________________________________

    It was probably a Big Mac. Too bad he didn’t get White Castle. He would have never wasted a slider like that and would’nt be be facing a domestic charge.

    Dude, in case they don’t have White Castles in your area – It’s a little hamburger that a normal guy can eat about 20. They are soooo good, only problem is they make fart like you have never farted in your life and they’re better for constipation than Exlax. Hence, the name slider. It you put hot peppers on the you get a slider with a blaze when deposited.

  256. sliderblaze Says:

    500, yeah, we dont have a white castle here but the serve slider at ruby tuesdays and other chain restrnts.

  257. sliderblaze Says:

    he should sue her for the drink she threw out the window and the burger she destroyed with her face to prove a point

  258. sliderblaze Says:

    has anyone heard from Ksinde?

  259. indy500 Says:

    sliderblaze Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 12:48 pm:
    __________________________________

    No kidding! White Castle has the best sweet tea in the world. Nobody, including a mad woman would throw White Castle tea out the window. Maybe White Castle can do a commercial on this. I think if White Castle was as big as McDonalds, we would’nt have stupid stuff like this.

  260. sliderblaze Says:

    i remember the from the maker of the girls gone wild videos. he had “relations” with one of the girls, she turned around and was sueing him 25mil for rape, so he counter sued her for 25 mil and also sued for the $36 burger he bought her the next morning…..now thats funny.

  261. indy500 Says:

    $36 burger??? Must have been a steak burger – Speaking of steak burger, you probably don’t have Steak & Shake where you’re at. It’s a real steak burger and about a forth the cost of that burger that that dude sued for.

    What is it with burgers and domestic disputes?

  262. sliderblaze Says:

    lil bit of mad cow disease mixed in?

    where you live? no steaks and shakes, we just got our first sonic and popeyes here, waitn on a bojanles tho

  263. indy500 Says:

    Indianapolis. I think Indiana was ranked one of the worst in the country for overweight people. Too many White Castles and Steak & Shakes.

  264. indy500 Says:

    sliderblaze Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 12:50 pm

    has anyone heard from Ksinde?
    ______________________________
    In my opinion she is a true patriot! However, I fear she may be in Spokane, Wa. right now stopped at a Shell station asking where the Supreme Court is. I think she is legally blonde. But the other day when she called out an MS troll on this site, all I can say is I’m glad she’s on our side!

  265. sdee Says:

    Another mush piece by LA Times blogger. This blog was a major obot hangout in the election. My comment is still in moderation. If you want to engage the Bots – head over there – if he opens up comments that is.

    latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/12/obama-birth-cer.html?cid=141505010#comments

  266. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Hey, where did my post go? Let me try again!

    Good Morning America How are You!

  267. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Indy, don’t you go talking bout Ksinde!

  268. hockeyfan530 Says:

    morning everyone.

    Well woke up to a news story that St Louis is naming a street after bam bam…and I’m pretty sure it’s not bambam avenue. It’s pretty close to my neighborhood too! Crap I’ll have to drive past the street everyday to get to work!

  269. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    morning

  270. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Morning Fanny! Just think though, it will be a constant reminder that you live on the “right” side of the street! Just think of those po souls that are going to have to drive by that street everyday and think, “Man, I can’t believe I was so deceived!” It will be a constant reminder to them that they need to be more vigilent in the nxt election.

  271. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Morning JAC! Did you bring the bagels? I like mine sesame, toasted, a good smear and a dollop!

    Anyone here living in NY City? There’s a great Jewish bakery down in the Fresh Meadows area–might be over on Parsons…they make Choc. bells with white cream inside… I would LOVE to have one.

  272. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I do wonder if all those naming of schools…….of streets etc will all of a sudden change if bam get tossed on his fanny??

  273. rosettasister Says:

    New Thread:

    https://rosettasister.wordpress.com/2008/12/05/%e2%80%9csupreme-court-today-deliberates-suit-blocking-obama-presidency%e2%80%9d-by-andrew-malcolm/

  274. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    hmmmm nope but if you are making a run.. I like the banana nut with honey nut cream cheese

  275. indy500 Says:

    hockeyfan530 Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 2:27 pm:
    ___________________________
    They’re also naming babies after him in record numbers. I heard some talking last night that have booked hotel rooms in DC months ago for Jan. 20th because they knew O was gonna win. $400+ a night and they’re spending the week there to take in the “moment”. I said it before, and I’ll say it again – When he is proven to be a phony, we’re in for an extermely rough ride. When that one is proven to be a phake, you think the rath will be directed at him?

    Keep your powder dry folks because we’re in for a rough ride.

  276. oo12oo Says:

    PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    December 5, 2008 at 5:47 am
    I went over to check out MS and I find this drsharonsh’tz over their posting this garbage–I think she was talking about API, but all the same, ticked me off:

    “There are a lot of people who drop in and out, and many who watch from a safe distance. But, there are those few who you can count on being there day and night, stoking the fires of stupidity.”

    But, from what I can see she was on MS ALL day, and even said her husband went to sleep–she fed him a can of chilli… I had to comment.

    I was disappointed to see Dixie posting there at MS. Hmmm

    Is there no honor among bloggees?

    Hey TM what’s Al’s moniker on MS?

    *************************************************************

    Good morning, Susan. Hope all is well in your part of the world. Posted there at MS just once while reading a series of articles detailing Mr. Korir’s background. And as always signed off on my post with my name. Have a wonderful day, Susan.

    Al

    PS: It just so happened when I was over there I saw a poster named “Jen” bashing the folks here. So, I tried to access Rose’s page via an anonymous proxy to leave a post by “Vito” with “Jen’s” remarks hoping to give everyone a heads up here, but the server wasn’t able to complete the post. Meanwhile, at that time I was relieved to see though that Ksinde and a few others were already aware of “Jen’s” tactics, but I’m glad Ksinde didn’t have to take her earrings and heels off and deck “Jen”….

    MS: if any of you folks happen to read this you know I’ve only posted there 2x on the same series written by “Grace” about the background of Mr. Korir. I wish your site no ill-will–just wanted to give some decent folks over here a heads-up about what I percieved to be a sense of injustice. Whether you block me or allow to me to continue reading “Grace’s” series is pretty much up you folks…Peace.

    Al

    Al

  277. tooncesmom Says:

    Thinkingmom11:

    Off topic here, but I would LOVE your version of Greek Chicken Soup. I keep trying to make this and have yet to come up with something as wonderful as that served in our favorite Greek restaurant in town. You can find an email addy for me on my website: bellerustique.com

  278. dixieinflorida Says:

    PeppermintPatty777 Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 5:47 am

    I went over to check out MS and I find this drsharonsh’tz over their posting this garbage–I think she was talking about API, but all the same, ticked me off:

    “There are a lot of people who drop in and out, and many who watch from a safe distance. But, there are those few who you can count on being there day and night, stoking the fires of stupidity.”

    But, from what I can see she was on MS ALL day, and even said her husband went to sleep–she fed him a can of chilli… I had to comment.

    I was disappointed to see Dixie posting there at MS. Hmmm

    Is there no honor among bloggees?

    ****************************
    Dr. Sharon was making comments to the chat talk, which I rarely participate in.

    For the record let me set something straight. I post on several blogs and forgot how I even got here in the first place but it was over those non existent tapes. I find 95% of you very nice on both blogs. The goal for both this blog and MS blog seems to be the same. What is bama hiding? I came to both blogs when the fighting had already begun about API. I found most of you believe korir here while MS found proof why not to believe him. I certainly like the rest of you wanted to believe a tape existed and an Iman document. I now believe something may have existed, but what I don’t know. A journalist will not just sit on information that important, especially one that has nothing to do with the USA. With one BS story after another and still nothing, well hmmm then it was a hoax which I have my own theories on as to why. Sammy k is his own worst enemy and nobody hacked his website. Just look at the new one. Three weeks now? and it’s still a mess.

    Read story two on this link switched.com/tag/419 it might also explain how he made up getting 500K.

    So PP I don’t know why anyone would have to be faithful to one certain blog when I respect everyone’s opinions on a subject. Like I said all of you (well most of you here and on MS) are very nice people and everyone just wants the truth about that one and all of us do not want him as our ruler, which he seems to already think he is.

    The nitpicking from both these sites towards each other is IMO just not necessary and accusations defending Korir is riduculus, because if you can’t see he’s full of hot air by now then you never will.

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