“Supreme Court today deliberates suit blocking Obama presidency” By Andrew Malcolm

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clarence-thomas

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/12/obama-birth-cer.html

EXCERPT

Crackpot controversy, you say. He’s been accepted as a U.S. citizen.

But here’s the thing: The United States Supreme Court officially takes up the issue of whether to ponder whether Obama can become president in formal discussions today in Washington.

What? Yup! A similar case was thrown out earlier this fall, but Justice Clarence Thomas distributed the legal papers in Donofrio vs Wells to his court colleagues for legal conference today.

Hardly anyone thinks the case has a serious chance of….

…succeeding, given the court’s distaste for hanging chad and public disfavor for its involvement in settling the Al GoreGeorge W. Bush presidential contest over Florida in 2000.

Similar conspiracy efforts were mounted over John McCain having been born in a U.S. naval hospital in the Panama Canal Zone where his father was stationed. They too might well have proceeded had the Arizonan won on Nov. 4.

But just think what would happen if the court did consider blocking Obama’s inauguration, with the world already having congratulated him and Obama’s Cabinet half-formed, not to mention him already having resigned from the Senate. Oops.

You’ll note that Sens. Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton have not yet taken that irreversible step. Just saying.

Our blogging colleague Frank James over at the Swamp has pulled together considerable material on the controversy:

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/12/obama_citizenship_lawsuit_supr.html

See also:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1208/16225.html

The U.S. Supreme Court will decide Friday whether to take up a case over president-elect Barack Obama’s citizenship — one of a few around the country seeking to nullify his election, but this one has an interesting lineage. It was referred to the high court by Justice Clarence Thomas, the court’s only African-American justice.

Maybe Thomas is just returning the favor — putting through a case that questions whether Obama should be president, after Obama said he wouldn’t have picked Thomas for the high court.

The suit filed against New Jersey Secretary of State Nina Mitchell Wells contests Obama’s claims to citizenship and therefore to the presidency and initially sought to stay the election. Alan Keyes, who was defeated by Obama in a race for the U.S. Senate in 2004, has filed a similar suit.

During the campaign, a copy of Obama’s birth certificate was posted on his website, showing that he was born in Hawaii. A petition to stop the Electoral College from confirming Obama as the next president has been rejected by Justice David Souter.

Legal experts say the case has little chance of going anywhere.

Phil Berg Barack Obama Ron Polarik Jeff Schreiber

475 Responses to ““Supreme Court today deliberates suit blocking Obama presidency” By Andrew Malcolm”

  1. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    1st

  2. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    🙂 guess I get all the bagels

  3. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    hey slider,……. Do you have a Ralley’s …… same effects as a white castle but ya can only eat one of the Big Buffards and share a large order of fries

  4. indy500 Says:

    PeppermintPatty777 Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 2:26 pm
    Indy, don’t you go talking bout Ksinde!
    _____________________________
    When the poop hits the fan, we’ll be on the same side and there ain’t many I would rather have on my back. Even though sometimes I don’t have a clue what she is saying.

  5. hockeyfan530 Says:

    they will have to rename the schools and buildings i would think. Have you ever scene a benedict arnold elementary?

  6. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    indy

    when the poop hits the fan….. well, I’m glad I don’t live close to Chicago and Gary Indiana anymore…… I think that area will react the worst……………..his hometown thing

  7. hockeyfan530 Says:

    i was thinking this morning. There is actually more evidence that Obama was not born in Hawaii than there is that he was born in hawaii.

    BORN IN HI
    1) Obama’s sister said he was born at 2 different hospitals….neither of them have records of O’s mom being admitted.
    2) We have Obama’s word that he was.
    anything else?

    NOT BORN IN HI
    1) Grandma O and 2 cousins saying he was born in kenya
    2) The kenyan Ambassador saying the everyone in Kenya knows he was born there (of course after that got out he said he misunderstood the question but the question was pretty black and white)
    3) Obama’s birth place is a tourist attraction not in Hawaii but in Kenya
    4) The kenyan government have sealed Obama’s records….Um what records? thought he was born in hawaii LOL
    anything else?

  8. hockeyfan530 Says:

    add to the NOT BORN IN HI above that

    NO hospital in HI has a record of bambam’s mom being admitted.

    The document bambam did provide is a forgery.

  9. LadyLiberty Says:

    Nothing on the MSM yet. Anyone know of one of those street webcams that shows the outside of the Supreme Court building? I would love to see what is going on there.

  10. sdee Says:

    The politico hit piece is disgusting. Basically saying that Justice Thomas took on the case as payback for Obama’s comments in the Rick Warren debate.

  11. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    msm will be very low key today……I suspect
    they are watching,….. but not gonna anything until something comes from the courts……..

  12. indy500 Says:

    justanamericancindy4 Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 3:02 pm
    __________________________
    No doubt! However, I live in the country but work in the city. Indy will be a powder keg too. Some of the things I have heard and seen makes me sick to think what may happen.

    Best thing aboput Rally’s is the slop it makes when you bite into it. Not quite the same gaseous effect as White Castle but almost as good.

  13. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    sdee

    yes,….. gotta protect the chosen one,…… everyone one else lies and has a hidden agenda…….

    glad I didn’t drink that spiked kool-aid that makes you only able to think as well as a head of lettuce

  14. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    indy

    if this place was secure,….. I would repeat some of the awful local redneck talk… but I think you can make some guesses….

    I 100% don’t agree with it,…… but doesn’t mean I am deaf

  15. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    High Five Fanny! I’m glad someone else thinks about things— I wondered, and have noted on many blogs, if BO wasn’t born in Kenya then WHAT records were the sealing up? I mean, I wasn’t born in HI and they wouldn’t have any records down there to seal on me–nor Pakistan or Indonesia!

    Sh*t’s going to hit the fan before Jan 20th cause Israel is going to bop Iran before BO gets in since BO won’t support Israel, and then with that strike we will be in a MAJOR war, and I don’t think we will change hands with BO to the office anyway. People, stock your cabinets with foods that you can prepare without electricity. Please be prepared. I will share my twinky’s but I don’t want to have to!

  16. ddlew Says:

    The MSM will O

  17. ddlew Says:

    OJ’ing today

  18. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Patty

    unless that BC is sealed by the state….. that he was indeed adopted
    that would double the meaning of non natual citizen

  19. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Troy, You’ve got me doing it: I cringe everyone someone says PE Obama, and won’t to shout, he’s not PE yet! He’s non-Citizen Obama!

  20. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    OJ and BO
    ones a drink, the other stinks

  21. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Al must be out milking the pigs and slopping the cows this morning! If you buy into the mix that Al is a “simple farm hand”–that might be true if he means “the funny farm”– you know, Al used to duck out everyday around noon (est) to get lunch for the “office”— hmmmm must be a big office, all of those cows and chickens–

    Quick Al, if the Baby bull weighs 75 pounds and the Papa bull weighs 1200 pounds, how much does the Mama bull weigh?

    Don’t no one else go giving Al the answer…and Al, NO CHEATING!

  22. thinkingmom11 Says:

    This is chilling. Don’t you think people should start wondering whey the friggin’ socialist/marxist/communists LOVE Obama!!?? When are they going to snap out of this delusion/illusion that is Obamania? This guy is a hazard, a menace, a cypher. No one knew anything about him before they voted for him and refuse to try to learn anything about him now that he MAY be president!! It is beyond me how people can CHOOSE to be so stupid and blind.

    .worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=82774

  23. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    wonder if bam bam even knows all the truth anymore…… an expert lier often get to the state they start believing their own lies…..

  24. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Yes Pep – Al is a cypher too. I think you may be onto something about him working as a farmhand at the FUNNY FARM! Now THAT is starting to make some sense.

    I like your riddle! hee hee

  25. thinkingmom11 Says:

    JAC – have you seen that website faithfreedom.org/obama.html ? It explains the pathological narcissistic disorder (and argues that O suffers from it). He explains that these kind of people actually DO beleive their own lies even though they know the truth – truely twisted!! If you haven’t seen it – check it out – especially if you like getting the willies!!

  26. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    anyone seen this? Troy, hold onto your tin hat before you watch this!

    ww*. msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#28060240

  27. hockeyfan530 Says:

    I dated a narcissist once and the similarities between her and Obama are incredible. She lied about everything. When she got caught in the lie she would just brush it aside. She honestly believed that she was above the rules. It’s a bad trait in a girl friend but it’s a nightmare trait in a president

  28. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    morning mom,

    I read something simular…..

  29. indy500 Says:

    PeppermintPatty777 Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 3:19 pm
    _____________________________
    Isreal will strike at the suspect nuke sites. Iran will retaliate by shutting down the Persian Gulf and may even move into Iraq. Of course we will have to respond. Supreme Court will deem O a freakin phony because of obvious evidence. Chaos in our neighborhoods. The trolls den at MS will totally freak out when Ksinde displays a sign at the vigil at the SC in support of the constitution and will spam every pro-American site on the net. White Castle will run out meat for their sliders and Steak & Shake will use soy instead of steak.

    Like Glenn Beck says, we are headed for the perfect storm. The poop will hit fan alright and hit it with force. I think I’m preaching to chior but I’ll say it again – Keep your powder dry.

  30. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    No one knew anything about him before they voted for him and refuse to try to learn anything about him now that he MAY be president!!
    ***********

    Well the answer to that TM is that Al had him on the farm watching the cows, and because he was working so hard for the good people of America, he’s getting a nod and a wink on his way to the WH– yep, that’s the one I won’t with his finger on the button! Bet Al is his secret CIA bodyguard…

  31. rosettasister Says:

    Good morning!

    More news articles on Supreme Court happenings:

    http://www.thebulletin.us/site/index.cfm?newsid=20214594&BRD=2737&PAG=461&dept_id=576361&rfi=8

    http://www.waaytv.com/Global/story.asp?S=9463941

    http://blackstarnews.com/?c=135&a=5178

    http://www.wach.com/news/story.aspx?id=231434

  32. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I got an email article from one of my relative-in-laws talking about how the rest of the world wanted Obama and we should not disppoint them. This was the same relative that asked me “What’s so wrong with socialism.” The title of the article was: “OUR” Election: Not an Election Fought in Isloation. I did not put the quotes on it – that was how it came to me. This was my response.

    First off, it is a bit off-putting that, in the title, the “OUR” is in quotes insinuating that the election isn’t really OURs somehow. The election on Nov. 4th is indeed OURs and OURs alone. Not Europe’s. Not Africa’s. Not South or Latin America’s. OURs alone. Personally, the fact that the rest of the world loves Obama, is all the more reason for me to want to scrutinize him more closely and to run in the opposite direction. In fact, it actually scares me that people like Castro, Hugo Chavez, Ahmed Yousef (A Hamas advisor), and Kadafi support Obama. I am not concerned that socialist/communist leaders and dictators will be upset if Obama is not elected. I want neither to be governed nor advise by such individuals.

    The only question we should be considering when choosing OUR president is “Who is best for the United States of America.” This is not a matter of voting for homecoming queen and if the queen finds out you didn’t vote for her you don’t get to sit at the “popular” table at lunch. This is obviously more serious than that. The fact is, that our system is not broken – our people are. Our citizenry is ill-educated, too self-centered and lacking in public virtue to defend freedom and liberty. We no longer have a common moral compass to guide and propel our choices. These are real and present dangers and if they are not addressed, this country’s best days may indeed be behind her.

    Mr. T., you asked me once (and the question is posed frequently online in defense of Obama’s various proposed social reforms) “What is wrong with socialism?” I was so stunned that I could not come up with an answer spontaneously. But, your question caused me to think and to research what is wrong with socialism? I came to realize that the problem with socialism is human nature. Socialism is a step toward communism and Communism is a step toward absolute tyranny. As a Christian, you must realize that human nature is inherently sinful. We seek after our own fleshly desires; we are selfish, arrogant, prideful creatures who, when left to our own devices and without the grace given by Christ, are capable of intolerable cruelty to our fellow man. The problem with socialism and communism is the removal of God and his grace from society and replacing it with some sort of government-god. With God removed from society we are left to trust man’s inherent “goodness” to be enough to propel us into some kind of utopia. However, a cursory study of history proves that man left to his own devices is no good at all. A few historically familiar names come to mind Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Chairman Mao, Castro are evidence to that fact. To a romantic heart, socialism/communism can be very appealing: all working together for the greater good of all, total equality for everyone, people looking out for and caring for each other etc. These ideas may work in heaven someday, but for now, on this Earth, it is a fairytale with no basis in reality.

    The fact is, that communism and socialism have been tried and they have failed spectacularly. The people who keep wanting to try it all again are the ones who want the power (which inevitably becomes nearly totalitarian). It all sounds good on paper, but in reality it is an impossible system to maintain or sustain and ultimately oppresses the people whom it initially purported to help.

    On more specific political opinion, I am not particularly pleased with McCain, either. Do not confuse my objection to Obama as wholesale support for John McCain. Any honest person of any political persuasion should be able to find areas of disagreement with elected officials and if you cannot find a point of disagreement – check your Kool-Aid! However, when anyone descredits Palin for lack of experience while touting Obama as “their guy” is guilty of intellectual dishonesty. To complain that John McCain only wants to “Drill, baby, drill” is to ignore the repeated call for the “All of the Above” strategy proposed by the McCain campaign. To purport that conservatives, Republicans and whoever else, are only supporting Sarah Palin because she is “cute” or “folksy,” is condescending. To accuse McCain of promoting nothing but deregulation, is to ignore the record that McCain proposed stricter regulation of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae 2 or 3 years ago but was shut down by Barney Frank, Maxine Waters, Chris Dodd, Meeks and others. Let’s not ignore the fact that Freddy and Fannie are at the heart of this financial crisis! Let’s talk about change. Sometimes change is good. Sometimes, not so good. Many leader of ill repute have been elected on the platform of change! Think Mugabe, Hitler, Chavez etc.

    And, if you examine records, and of course, no human being is free of faults, instances of poor judgement, or failures, I would believe a John McCain Sarah Palin-type record to be the kind more likely to affect change in government that will reflect our history of liberty, personal freedom and personal responsibility. So, no thanks Mr. Obama, you can keep your change.

    And as for Obama’s associations with domestic terrorists, radical pastors, and corrupt real estate moguls, I leave you with the following quotes:

    ==Be as careful of the books you read, as to the company you keep; for your habits and character will be as much influenced by the former as by the latter. -Paxton Hood

    == Tell me what company you keep and I’ll tell you what you are. -Miguel De Cervantes

    ==Associate with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation; for it is better to be alone than in bad company.
    -George Washington
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    I know he was “elected” but we need to keep in mind the larger fight if the SCOTUS does not do it’s job and protect the Constitution. Obama is a radical socialist/marxist and it is showing in his less conspicuous admin. picks. I am hoping Obama will be disqualified but if he isn’t we have an even tougher fight ahead to try to salvage this country.

  33. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Well, Indy, my mountain here is pretty secure! My pantry is stocked, and I’m surrounded by some good ole country boys that will shoot anything that might look like it would take down their flag!

    My husband used to work on ships, he was a merchant marine and we still fly the jolly Roger–was thinking about taking it down and flying the US flag upside down, but only planes and eagles would see it–no use in upsetting Hubby’s tummy by taking the JR down!

  34. rosettasister Says:

    “Someone special” has Polarik’s back:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2143056/posts

    To: Notoriously Conservative; Polarik

    I also think it won’t be long until they are able to make a more convincing fake birth certificate, and release that.

    ***That’s why he’s been doing the delay tactic thing. Once the convincing fake is bandied around, it will be up to forensic experts like Polarik to weigh in.

    That will take time, and the media simply will ignore the evidence. That’s why I’ve said a few times, “The fix is in.”

    29 posted on Thursday, December 04, 2008 4:51:59 PM by Kevmo

    To: Kevmo

    Well, Kevmo, what I can tell you is that I will not be alone in providing expert evidence.

    Someone special has got my back.

    64 posted on Thursday, December 04, 2008 5:28:34 PM by Polarik

  35. thinkingmom11 Says:

    ooooohhhh “someone special” — I like the sound of that, Sister! My tinfoil hat is spinning wondering who he is refering to…

  36. oo12oo Says:

    PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    December 5, 2008 at 5:47 am
    I went over to check out MS and I find this drsharonsh’tz over their posting this garbage–I think she was talking about API, but all the same, ticked me off:

    “There are a lot of people who drop in and out, and many who watch from a safe distance. But, there are those few who you can count on being there day and night, stoking the fires of stupidity.”

    But, from what I can see she was on MS ALL day, and even said her husband went to sleep–she fed him a can of chilli… I had to comment.

    I was disappointed to see Dixie posting there at MS. Hmmm

    Is there no honor among bloggees?

    Hey TM what’s Al’s moniker on MS?

    **************************************************************

    Good morning, Susan. Hope all is well in your part of the world. Posted there at MS twice while reading a series of articles detailing Mr. Korir’s background. And as always signed off on my post with my name. Have a wonderful day, Susan.

    Al

    PS: It just so happened when I was over there I saw a poster named “Jen” bashing the folks here. So, I tried to access Rose’s page via an anonymous proxy to leave a post by “Vito” with “Jen’s” remarks hoping to give everyone an anonymous heads up here, but the server wasn’t able to complete the post. Meanwhile, at that time I was relieved to see though that Ksinde and a few others were already aware of “Jen’s” tactics, but I’m glad Ksinde didn’t have to take her earrings and heels off and deck “Jen”….

    MS: if any of you folks happen to read this you know I’ve only posted there 2x on the same series written by “Grace” about the background of Mr. Korir. I wish your site no ill-will–just wanted to give some decent folks over here a heads-up about what I percieved to be a sense of injustice by one of your posters, “Jen”. Whether you block me or allow to me to continue reading “Grace’s” series is pretty much up to you folks…Peace.

    Al

  37. hockeyfan530 Says:

    What i tell people that use the arguement that the rest of the world wants Obama to be president is because they want to see america weakened. And Obama will do just that. I also state that in the VERY short history of the US we have managed to surpass EVERY nation in the world. Nations that have been around FAR longer than the US. Our standard of living is what it is because what America is. And Obama supporters want to forget all of our accomplishments as a nation to make the rest of the world like us! Do we need some tweaking to get back on track? Yes we do. But we don’t want to throw the baby out with the baby water…Which is exactly what Obama and his ilk want to do.

  38. jc Says:

    I think this is my first post on this site. I have been checking in daily for quite sometime. I love the witty banter. Does anyone think we will here news on this today? What time will the conference end?

  39. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    TM– very articulate! Even some of our notorious farmers would have a difficult time disagreeing with that!

    Saluting TM!

  40. rosettasister Says:

    jc Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 3:58 pm

    I think this is my first post on this site. I have been checking in daily for quite sometime. I love the witty banter.

    ———————–

    Welcome, jc!

    They are witty, aren’t they!

    You should be able to post at will now.

    Rosetta

  41. thinkingmom11 Says:

    “Vital statistics, such as birth certificates, are protected by strict confidentiality requirements under Hawaii law,” Ms. Nagamine wrote. “The record could not be disclosed to a person whose right to inspect or obtain a copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction.”

    Is she saying she can’t even show it with a court order!!? or is that a typo?? I added the italics BTW

  42. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Good Morning Al! I tried to post on MS site, but they said thanks but no thanks.

  43. rosettasister Says:

    I hate the way some on the left have treated Justice Thomas:

    “President-elect would seek changes in Supreme Court” ‘Constitution a living, breathing document and more justices have to understand that’

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=82729

    EXCERPT

    Obama has committed himself to respecting the Constitution, but he said the founding document must be interpreted in the context of current affairs and events.

    Melody Barnes, a senior domestic policy adviser to the Obama campaign, said in the Fox News report, “His view is that our society isn’t static and the law isn’t static as well. That the Constitution is a living and breathing document and that the law and the justices who interpret it have to understand that.”

    Obama has criticized Justice Clarence Thomas, who is on the more conservative side of the philosophical spectrum in the Supreme Court, as not a strong jurist or legal thinker.

    And Obama voted against both Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Samuel Alito, two appointees of President Bush who vote with Thomas on many issues.

    Obama doesn’t support their vision of the Constitution, essentially as a document whose provisions still are controlling all aspects of U.S. law.

    “There’s nothing wrong with voting against nominees who don’t appear to share a broader vision of what the Constitution is about,” he told the pro-abortion audience in 2007.

    He even raised the topic during a campaign event at Pastor Rick Warren’s Saddleback Church, saying one of the most important jobs of the Supreme Court is to guard against “encroachment” on the separation of powers.

    Obama has complained Roberts has given in to the White House too much while on the bench.

    “I think he has been a little bit too … eager to give an administration … more power than I think the Constitution originally intended,” Obama said in the report.

    Barnes told Fox News that Obama is looking for “empathy” on the part of justices.

  44. oo12oo Says:

    Well the answer to that TM is that Al had him on the farm watching the cows, and because he was working so hard for the good people of America, he’s getting a nod and a wink on his way to the WH– yep, that’s the one I won’t with his finger on the button! Bet Al is his secret CIA bodyguard…

    *************************************************************

    Susan, Susan, Susan, with apologies to President Ronald Reagan, “there you go again”…if you have some free time today, please read anything you can about “State Secrets Privilege”. Where I admit I’m a simpleminded farmer, I honestly believe Mr. Obama had more to offer his country and may have spent some time in the US intelligence communities, thus his airtight records. Ask yourself this question, Susan: Why are the federal agencies so calm amid the public storm about the prospects of “Renegade” becoming the next President of the United States? Because they already know where his allegiance belongs.

    Al

  45. indy500 Says:

    PeppermintPatty777 Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 3:50 pm:
    ____________________________
    JR is cool! Flag is upside down because we are indeed in distress. No mountains here in Indy but same concept applies. MS is probably salivating over this talk. But remember during the election when Ayres was being birddogged by the media (Fox) the freakin terrorist called the police to keep him safe. The very organization that he tried to destroy during his heyday. I can just see the bridge trolls doing the same thing when the poop hits the fan. Please save me from the very thing I helped promote. Pisses me off!!!

  46. hockeyfan530 Says:

    mom, that’s what it sounds like. So the court would have to order bambam to release the document. I wonder if the SC will call him bambam too? LOL

  47. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Al, Al, Al– that’s what we say down south when we are walking on hot coals!

  48. oo12oo Says:

    PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    December 5, 2008 at 4:03 pm
    Good Morning Al! I tried to post on MS site, but they said thanks but no thanks.

    *************************************************************

    Their loss, Susan. But we have to respect her/their right to manage their own site as they wish. Just don’t come in here insulting anyone’s intelligence is all I think this community asks. The TRUTH can be arrived at with many contributors…

    Al

  49. Foxtrot Says:

    Hi All — I can only stay for a few minutes as I have a meeting to go to. Any news about the SCOTUS march anywhere?

  50. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Thank you Pep. I was really incensed when he sent me that email. He knows my political views and he would send me the most incredibly uninformed, bias liberal hogwash and out of respect, I would just ignore it. That time – I had had enough.

  51. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Ok Al, IF Obama is this wonder weave of perfected cloth, then I wish him nothing but the best. I have to tell you though that I’m not buying it on a bagel with jelly and a schmere!

  52. Foxtrot Says:

    Any news about the march on SCOTUS on MSM yet? Just got in and have to leave again for a bit.

  53. oo12oo Says:

    PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    December 5, 2008 at 4:06 pm
    Al, Al, Al– that’s what we say down south when we are walking on hot coals!

    **************************************************************

    Well, here in Eden, NY, Susan when we hear “ow”, “ow”, “ow” is because a young’n is getting fresh in a department store with his “Mommy” with a potty-mouth and needs to be gently reminded what the Ten Commandment to “Honor thy Mother and Father” means before they get too old to understand. Are you sure you and Foxtrot are not one and the same, you guys never seem to be here together—hmmmmmm, al, al , al that over a few coals…

    Al

  54. Foxtrot Says:

    I’m here, Al!

  55. hockeyfan530 Says:

    Al,
    You are funny. I love your conclusion that bambam is indeed a CIA agent or whatever. You know the other day i had a cold so I had the doctor remove my sinusses(sp?)

  56. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    MS just tried to protect her blog from the same antics she encourages others to do to other blogs…..

  57. oo12oo Says:

    PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    December 5, 2008 at 4:08 pm
    Ok Al, IF Obama is this wonder weave of perfected cloth, then I wish him nothing but the best. I have to tell you though that I’m not buying it on a bagel with jelly and a schmere

    **************************************************************

    I already said on Monday this week and now again today, Susan: By 5pm today Mr. Obama will still be standing tall.

    Al

  58. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Fox – haven’t heard anything yet…tried to watch that insane Fox show this morning but couldn’t stand it so I am waiting to hear something online…

  59. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Are you saying I’m trying to insult someone’s intelligence? I don’t think you would say that about me–but then, we don’t know much about you Al.

    I appreciate the people on this site for the very reason that there’s very little name calling, no one is hung up on people on other sites and we have great intellectual discourse here. While I myself love to go out of my normal character and play the dumb blonde– play it is. I don’t find a need to challenge anyone’s intellect on here. I’m amazed daily by the incredible thought that people such as TM, Troy, HF, Ks, and on and on give to the subject.

    Добрый день, Al.

  60. Foxtrot Says:

    JAC – HI! What is the story about “MS” and who is she? Also, no one has answered my question yet about any coverage on the march at SCOTUS. 🙂

  61. oo12oo Says:

    hockeyfan530 Says:

    December 5, 2008 at 4:12 pm
    Al,
    You are funny. I love your conclusion that bambam is indeed a CIA agent or whatever. You know the other day i had a cold so I had the doctor remove my sinusses(sp?)

    **************************************************************

    Lol–Gotta give credit where it’s due, Hockeyfan’, your one-liners still have
    zigging power…

    Bam-bam–Lol

    Al

  62. Foxtrot Says:

    I am hurt Patty. No mention of me in that long list! 😦

  63. Foxtrot Says:

    Thanks, Mom!

  64. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Hi Foxy– MS is Mountain Sage (a blogger–of sorts)– go there if you need to increase your bp. It’s also a good place to get the real dis on posters who play nice on one site and dirty on another… a little bait and switch, I say.

  65. Foxtrot Says:

    REally? Is she on OUR side or the OTHER side?

  66. oo12oo Says:

    PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    December 5, 2008 at 4:14 pm
    Are you saying I’m trying to insult someone’s intelligence? I don’t think you would say that about me–but then, we don’t know much about you Al.

    I appreciate the people on this site for the very reason that there’s very little name calling, no one is hung up on people on other sites and we have great intellectual discourse here. While I myself love to go out of my normal character and play the dumb blonde– play it is. I don’t find a need to challenge anyone’s intellect on here. I’m amazed daily by the incredible thought that people such as TM, Troy, HF, Ks, and on and on give to the subject.

    Добрый день, Al.

    *************************************************************

    Heavens, nooooo, Susan. The part about the insulting-intelligence was in reference to “Jen” coming here with a smile on her face and a dagger in her purse…You are very refreshening and your posts are well-rounded, but never negative, Susan.

    Al

  67. rosettasister Says:

    “Bloggin’ Goin’ On”

    http://johnofallfaith.blogspot.com/2008/12/it-still-ain-over-will-obama-provide.html

    http://threshinggrain.blogspot.com/2008/12/la-timesblog-obama-donofrio-v-obama.html

    http://barry-julie.blogspot.com/2008/12/every-language-by-2025-is-bible.html

  68. Foxtrot Says:

    I thought Jen was blocked by Rose.

  69. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Fox

    MS is Mountain Sage, she has a blog and tried to act like blog police of other blogs….. her members are the ones that attacted API and got them shut down.

  70. Foxtrot Says:

    JAC – But whose side is she on?

  71. oo12oo Says:

    Foxtrot Says:

    December 5, 2008 at 4:12 pm
    I’m here, Al!

    *************************************************************

    Okay, Foxy. Wait a minute or two–time to shovel some humble pie and open mouth and insert my foot in response to suggesting that you and Susan were one and the same.

    No, haven’t heard anything about the march–just hope Ksinde and others are safe.

    Al

  72. thinkingmom11 Says:

    MS is on her OWN side…Fox.

    She is (I believe) a Hilary supporter so you may enjoy her more than I do, though. (Nothing personal 🙂 – I love having you here!) Feel free to check her out – but BEWARE do NOT mention ANYTHING about tapes or birth certificates or citizenship unless you are prepared to be assaulted verbally. I do like Al’s discription “A smile on her face and a knife in her purse..” seems pretty acurate to me.

  73. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Foxy, I meant to put you at the very top of the list! I’m sorry–truffles to you! You are the intellect of the intellectuals!

    and, Al– do you have a little Dr. J and Mr. H side? Me thinks you should warn us with your Moniker– >;0)

  74. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Fox
    she is on her own side
    Though, she rarely does acts herself…. she don’t try to control her thugs when they start behaving badly

  75. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    lol….. guess we think alike

  76. Foxtrot Says:

    So she is someone who supported Hillary, but decided to put blinders on when it came to Obama? As a Hillary supporter, I am insulted by that! I may go just to read the comments, but I won’t blog. Why you ask? Because THE ROSETTA GANG ROCKS!

  77. Foxtrot Says:

    Thanks Patty! Flattery will get you everywhere!

  78. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Foxy, are we supposed to be like “id and ego”

    Al is so funny, Foxy! He has a real imagination! I bet he sings to the cows at night time cause he thinks it makes their milk sweeter–but then realizes in the morning they are beef cattle–just before they become burger!

  79. Foxtrot Says:

    LOL Patty! I think Al is harmless enough. I also appreciate an opposing viewpoint, as long as it is respectful.

  80. rosettasister Says:

    What’s a “Jack Call”?!

    “While MSM Continues To Suppress Story, Pravda Runs Editorial Laughing At U.S. For Not Verifying If Obama Is A Citizen”

    http://patdollard.com/2008/12/while-msm-continues-to-suppress-story-pravda-runs-editorial-laughing-at-us-for-not-verifying-if-obama-is-a-citizen/

    http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/02-12-2008/106778-Amazing_Obama-0

    Every con game uses three ingredients against the target: Sell the dream. Push the greed button. Stress urgency.

    Obama sold the dream of hope and change so desperately wanted by the American voters. He pushed the greed button by promising to take from the rich to give to the poor. And he stressed urgency by himself and his wife telling voters to vote early. Another final nail in the coffin a con man uses against his targets is “The Jack Call”. After your sucker has committed himself to buying your offer, but has not sent the check, the con man calls him with “Good news!!!” and constantly re-sells his target until the check has cleared and the funds are in the con man’s bank account.

    The non-existent Office of the President Elect is the Jack Call. The constant news shots of his “involvement and concern” in national and world issues are the repeated Jack Calls.

    It remains to be seen if Barry Sotero, Barack Obama or whatever his name is, is appointed President by the Electoral College.

    The only “Certificate of Birth” that he has produced is not a Birth Certificate. It is a Certificate of Live Birth, which any foreign citizen can obtain by simply showing up at the Vital Records department of the State of Hawaii and showing the original Birth Certificate from the original birth place, regardless of what country the birth took place in. Forensic records experts have stated that the document Obama produced on his web site is a forgery.

    The only comment made by the Hawaii Department of Vital Records is that they “Have seen the original Birth Certificate”. They never once have said he was born in Hawaii.

    None of these lawsuits and suspicions mean as much as the fact that Obama can easily dispel all the legal actions and mistrust by simply producing a valid Birth Certificate. It matters not in the least that he has not proven his attendance at Harvard and Columbia University. It does not matter that any number of claims about his past and his experience have not been validated.

    The only thing that matters is that he refuses to produce a valid Birth Certificate and instead spends thousands of dollars on attorneys and defies Federal lawsuits and State lawsuits asking him to produce one single piece of paper that most every citizen of every nation of the world has easy and rapid access to.

  81. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    rFox, Mom

    remember that Chris w?

    I think now that was one of hers…trying to see if he/she could start something….. you remember that BAD comment he had made….
    yeah,…. one of their tricks…….. post bad things then pdf the page to turn a blog site into wordpress.

  82. indy500 Says:

    A
    Big Al, I’ve worked for the Fed’s for more than a few years, worked LEO for a few more, I even own several acres but only maintain a small garden of a few acres. So I guess we can be considered homes as the crackheads say. Although we have much in common, I can’t see your point of view. Why do you have a thing for Patty and Fox. More importantly, why do you bring it here. Why not go to a place where your trick will be appreciated unless you bring it here so the treat will be much more better.

    Big Al, you are fighting a battle like the rest of us – why not take it to a place where it is appreciated?

    There was a saying we used to use a long time ago. Not saying it is meant for you but it just came to my mind:

    Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo Yankee Oscar Uniform. Can’t remember what it means but just came to my mind.

  83. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Foxy– “they” are very negative and nasty over “there” at the BS oops, mean the MS site. But, if you were on the API site you will recognize some monikers there, like Cartoon pig dog and Dixie (I’m so disappointed about Dixie), and others— It is very negative there so wear a hat– I’ll loan you my newest one, it’s lined in titanium and has little copper thingies hanging from it–

  84. thinkingmom11 Says:

    It would be interesting to see what Fox thinks of MS and her crew….

  85. Foxtrot Says:

    Opposing viewpoints keep me on my toes and help me to strive to know more and be better. That is one of the many reasons I married my husband. He keeps me challenged intellectually and is not a “yes” man. (not to mention he is cute, sweet and a wonderful husband and father)

  86. oo12oo Says:

    Quick Al, if the Baby bull weighs 75 pounds and the Papa bull weighs 1200 pounds, how much does the Mama bull weigh?

    *************************************************************

    Susan,

    Mama “bull”?!

    Interesting that you wrote that because the truth (even about Mr. Obama) is right out in the open like that, but it’ll take someone seeing the details that will ultimately solve the mysteries surrounding his airtight records…don’t be surprise that the powers to be would rather everyone think it’s an issue of birthplace instead of asking the stagehand to place the spotlight upon them…”State Secrets Privilege”. The 44th US President of the United States of America has already proven his loyal allegiance.

    Al

  87. Foxtrot Says:

    Putting on the hat now! I’m goin’ in . . . I’m goin’ in!! If I don’t return, remember me kindly in my eulogy!

  88. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Indy, play nice…

  89. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Fox

    lol…. it you say Rosetta gang rocks…you won’t get past one post……

  90. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    OK quick, Al, run over to MS and see Foxy there, and then back here and see me here— proof is in the pudding–just don’t batt an eyelash or you might miss something.

  91. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    wonder if Fox knows to go to the new blog and not the old one

  92. ladyliberty Says:

    New video on CNN:

    w w w . cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/12/05/arena.obama.citizenship.cnn

  93. oo12oo Says:

    I do like Al’s discription “A smile on her face and a knife in her purse..” seems pretty acurate to me

    *************************************************************

    Wow, absolutely incredible! Finally made a statement that someone here agrees with, highlighting desk calendar for good measure. Yes!!!

    Al

  94. Foxtrot Says:

    Okay, I’m back from the MS site (limping along). Don’t worry about me. It is just a flesh wound coaches! Just a flesh wound!

    Actually they are pretty tame right now. It looks like they only get heated when someone mostly talks about API.

  95. j.b. Says:

    I snipped this from Jeffs site. My apologys if it is a repeat.

    How very exciting. Finally some clarification and cohesiveness among the main players in the suits.
    I look very forward to this, I wish we didn’t have to wait the whole weekend. ugh.

    Oh and good morning.
    ***************************************

    .americasright.com/

    QUEENSBURY, N.Y., Dec 04, 2008 — On Monday, December 8, 2008, at 1:30 pm, the We The People Foundation will conduct a press conference at the National Press Club in Washington D.C.

    The licensed attorneys who initiated lawsuits in PA (Philip Berg), NJ (Leo Donofrio) and CA (Orly Taitz), challenging Mr. Obama’s legal eligibility to hold the Office of President of the United States, will briefly summarize the facts, legal arguments and status of their cases. They will answer questions from the press.

  96. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    When do you bring a tank to a gun fight?

    a. evidently when you live in Plant City Florida! There’s sht out in fl, and the sherriff’s dept brought a tank! Very interesting. Schools are locked down.

  97. jc Says:

    The Obama file is reporting that Joe Thunder is at SCOTUS and plenty of Big Media is present. Wow. The sleeper has awaken.

  98. oo12oo Says:

    PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    December 5, 2008 at 4:38 pm
    OK quick, Al, run over to MS and see Foxy there, and then back here and see me here— proof is in the pudding–just don’t batt an eyelash or you might miss something.

    **************************************************************

    With apologies to anyone who has to take a real Little Yellow Bus…

    Susan,

    My little yellow bus won’t get here in time to take me over and back.
    Gosh, hope MS and crew don’t riddle Foxy with a barrage of contempt and ridicule during her visit.

    Al

  99. hockeyfan530 Says:

    Al,
    Last week the lamp on my end table wouldn’t turn on. So obviously, the first thing i did was call the electric company to shut down the entire grid because there’s obviously some rolling blackouts going on. They asked why i believe that. I said, well, um, helllllooooo, my lamp isn’t working. The woman said sir, did you try changing the light bulb? I said, well i guess i could try, let me plug it in and then i’ll try.

    See what i’m saying?

  100. Foxtrot Says:

    Oh my gosh JAC . . . I forgot to post that! I didn’t post anything, but I am goin’ back in! Any bets how long the Rosetta Gang ROCKS stays in the comment section? (Holding my breath aaaaaaaaaand—GO!)

  101. oo12oo Says:

    PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    December 5, 2008 at 4:44 pm
    When do you bring a tank to a gun fight?

    a. evidently when you live in Plant City Florida! There’s sht out in fl, and the sherriff’s dept brought a tank! Very interesting. Schools are locked down.

    *************************************************************

    Whatever happened to attending school to learn?!

    Al

  102. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    From BBC news blogger @ bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/12/obamas_community_army.html

    Now weknow what part ACORN workers will have in Obama camp: Al, you can go back to work now!

    “I am told the Obama team is working to find administration positions for its paid (former) campaign staffers, and one of the ideas it has hit on is community organizing.

    In the coming weeks, the transition team will launch a nationwide community organizing initiative, using the Obama infrastructure/office space from the campaign.

    The idea is that the staff and volunteers who worked on the campaign establish a permanent nationwide network.

    For instance, if you want your local public school bus route changed, or want to run for city council, or want to take up any communuity issue, you go to the Organizing Office (in the same space where an Obama Campaign for Change Office used to be) and the staff help you launch your idea and support the project.

    It is going to start in Chicago in days and it is coming to you – yes you – in Virgin, Utah soon.

    Too much? I can see why they are doing it. FDR had the unions, Reagan had the conservative eggheads.

    Obama needs someone – he needs a permanent movement of some sort, organising and cajoling… and just being there.”

  103. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Al – maybe it is just because I am usually a very skeptical person. I still think your assertion is absurd. TO help me TRY to understand your theory, when do you think the “State Secret Holders” go ahold of Obama? Why did they find him an attractive “candidate”? Was it his long term radical associations? Why would they be lead to believe he is completely committed to the US’s cause and not to the cause of the State’s enemies he so frequently cavorted with growing up and on into his adulthood? Why would they be SO foolish as to present this man for President when they knew full well those who would oppose him would inevitably bring up his dual citizenship? That seems to be a pretty big gamble. You will say “They knew it would come up but they aren’t worried – they will bring up the “secrets” privilege. But they would do so at the expense of inciting much anger and possible civil unrest. Now unless that is what they WANT to have happen (and if that is the case – I would question there patriotism) why would they take that risk??

    This may be rambling, sorry – my brain is thinking WAAAAY faster than my cold little fingers can type…

  104. jjones Says:

    heh,
    I used to live in that area…That’s the same area where the sherriffs had some cop killer cornered in the woods and they shot him a 100 times or so. When asked why they shot him that many times the sherriff’s response was” Because we ran out of bullets” 🙂

  105. ddlew Says:

    Just a quick question.

    Has everyone actually bowed their head to pray over the actions in the Supreme Court today?

    We have a direct line line to the HIGHEST COURT in the world.

    Take a few minutes to make your appeal.

    🙂

  106. tooncesmom Says:

    From last thread…

    Thinkingmom11:

    Off topic here, but I would LOVE your version of Greek Chicken Soup. I keep trying to make this and have yet to come up with something as wonderful as that served in our favorite Greek restaurant in town. You can find an email addy for me on my website: bellerustique.com

  107. oo12oo Says:

    Foxtrot Says:

    December 5, 2008 at 4:46 pm
    Oh my gosh JAC . . . I forgot to post that! I didn’t post anything, but I am goin’ back in! Any bets how long the Rosetta Gang ROCKS stays in the comment section? (Holding my breath aaaaaaaaaand—GO

    *************************************************************

    SHEESH, thank goodness. Foxy made it back after venturing bravely behind enemy lines. Bravo! Stay tune to see if she is outed and hanged if she dares to press her luck one more time…

    Al

  108. j.b. Says:

    michellemalkin.com/2008/12/05/blankets-of-hope-for-the-troops-stolen-please-help/

    This is sick and sad! Anyone here sew?

    PLEASE READ THIS!

  109. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    lol foxy

  110. Foxtrot Says:

    Okay, my first comment I tried to post on MS is still in moderation. Of course, I may have mentioned something about the Rosetta Gang. The second one I tried with a new name and it went up for a brief moment, then when I refreshed she took it down. Talk about control freak! I will check again to see if my one in moderation has made it or not.

  111. Foxtrot Says:

    . . . still in moderation at MS

  112. rosettasister Says:

    Pastor Manning was on with Matt, Philip and MommaE last night:

    12/4/2008 Show

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/My-Two-Cents

    (Phil Berg’s brother is in hospital with cancer.)

  113. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Fox
    welcome to MS’s world…….. freedom of speech as long as it’s hers and her thugs

  114. Foxtrot Says:

    waiting . . . waiting . . .

  115. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Interesting how peoples’ answers flip flop…like this one for example:

    Justice David Souter
    ——————————————————————————–
    Took His Seat: October 9, 1990
    “The day you see a camera come into our courtroom it’s going to roll over my dead body.”
    — Congressional Testimony, 1996

    ——————————————————————————–
    “If the cameras are unobtrusive and are not making sound that is distracting, that’s one thing. There is still a risk…Cameras which are obtrusive to oral argument so that they really do distract your attention. That is something that has to be avoided…There’s no question there’s value there.”
    — Confirmation Hearings, 1990

    I do see it as one way that we could move Souter a little further along to the road to glory— camera’s in the court room might do the trick–he did say, “over my dead body”—

  116. oo12oo Says:

    thinkingmom11 Says:

    December 5, 2008 at 4:48 pm
    Al – maybe it is just because I am usually a very skeptical person. I still think your assertion is absurd. TO help me TRY to understand your theory, when do you think the “State Secret Holders” go ahold of Obama? Why did they find him an attractive “candidate”? Was it his long term radical associations? Why would they be lead to believe he is completely committed to the US’s cause and not to the cause of the State’s enemies he so frequently cavorted with growing up and on into his adulthood? Why would they be SO foolish as to present this man for President when they knew full well those who would oppose him would inevitably bring up his dual citizenship? That seems to be a pretty big gamble. You will say “They knew it would come up but they aren’t worried – they will bring up the “secrets” privilege. But they would do so at the expense of inciting much anger and possible civil unrest. Now unless that is what they WANT to have happen (and if that is the case – I would question there patriotism) why would they take that risk??

    This may be rambling, sorry – my brain is thinking WAAAAY faster than my cold little fingers can type…

    **************************************************************

    Aw shucks, ThinkingMom’, you’re doing just fine. I would say that the most ideal time-frame where someone in the US intelligence communities may have contacted/recruited Mr. Obama would have been near his last days at Occidental College and/or a continuation of the process upon his move eastward to Colombia University…money comes in play here because tuition at one institution was substantially higher than at the latter, so some entity/someone with deep pockets was suddenly in the picture…

    As far as things coming to this point, ThinkingMom’, the SCOTUS, etc. I would honestly wager that no one on the inside ever thought the American people would reject their daily spoon feeding of whatever the powers to be served us; but, you can bet your last dollar that they know they still have the trump card left in the deck if they have to invoke the privilege–of course, they wouldn’t want to even let on that Mr. Obama was even in fact one of the own–given the highly sensitive nature of intelligence craft/tactics…

    It’s winding down to 5pm and the halls of the SCOTUS are on the minds of everyone in the nation and world. Wish there was a way to protect state-secrets and for Mr. Obama to simply show an authenticate document so we could move forward…

    Al

  117. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Poor poor OJ. I do pray they have mercy on him. It’s very sad.

  118. oo12oo Says:

    With apologies to the Columbia Tigers, not Colombia, as in the coffee beans at the grocery store…

    Al

  119. oo12oo Says:

    PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    December 5, 2008 at 5:03 pm
    Poor poor OJ. I do pray they have mercy on him. It’s very sad

    *************************************************************

    You have a good heart, Susan, but you know what they say, “do the crime, do the time”.

    Al

  120. Foxtrot Says:

    still waiting . . . waiting . . .

  121. tooncesmom Says:

    That is so disgusting about the blankets and clothing for wounded soldiers being stolen. Have we come to this? Some kooks’ hatred of the war is so intense they feel justified in depriving those soldiers who put their lives on the line for freedom of small comforts?

    Why am I not surprised? Our educational system has become a bastion of hatred, our youth has become a disrespectful entitlement generation (now at least two generations old). It’s so sad.

    I hope, hope, hope we hear some good news out of Washington, D.C. today.

  122. Foxtrot Says:

    Patty, I hope they throw the book at him! He got away with murder, literally, and has continued to try to shaft Ron and Nicole’s families out of the money due them from the civil case. This guy is evil reincarnate. I say, let him start a football team–IN PRISON!

  123. oo12oo Says:

    Foxtrot Says:

    December 5, 2008 at 4:56 pm
    Okay, my first comment I tried to post on MS is still in moderation. Of course, I may have mentioned something about the Rosetta Gang. The second one I tried with a new name and it went up for a brief moment, then when I refreshed she took it down. Talk about control freak! I will check again to see if my one in moderation has made it or not.

    **************************************************************

    Have to give you an “A+” for effort, Foxy, but it sounds like they are on to you.

    Al

  124. indy500 Says:

    jjones Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 4:48 pm:
    ______________________________
    Kick arse!!! Ran out of bullets but had the ASP’s out just in case the stinkin jagoff had any breath left.

  125. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Justice Clarence Thomas, you think he accepted the case for conference because it would reflect better if he did it over the other Justices?

    you know that racial card,…….

    geez I think this WILL set back predijust (sp)….. not as much as white vs blacks but the other way around..

  126. Foxtrot Says:

    Al, as my daughters used to say when they were 2 years old, “What a ‘poopy head’ Sage is!” Oops, better not say that as she may check here at Rosetta to decide whether or not to get my comment out of moderation?

  127. rosettasister Says:

    “Mr. Obama’s Eligibility to be Aired Monday at the National Press Club”

    http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Mr-Obamas-Eligibility-Aired-Monday/story.aspx?guid=%7B35E191D7-D7BD-4722-BAF1-E6C0CBC18EA3%7D

    Last update: 3:18 p.m. EST Dec. 4, 2008

    QUEENSBURY, N.Y., Dec 04, 2008 /PRNewswire-USNewswire via COMTEX/ — On Monday, December 8, 2008, at 1:30 pm, the We The People Foundation will conduct a press conference at the National Press Club in Washington D.C.

    The licensed attorneys who initiated lawsuits in PA (Philip Berg), NJ (Leo Donofrio) and CA (Orly Taitz), challenging Mr. Obama’s legal eligibility to hold the Office of President of the United States, will briefly summarize the facts, legal arguments and status of their cases. They will answer questions from the press.

    Prior to the start of the conference, at 10 am, the Supreme Court of the United States is expected to announce whether it will consider applications from these attorneys who have asked the Court to delay the proceedings of the Electoral College pending a determination of the underlying constitutional question – the meaning of the “natural born citizen” clause of Article II of the Constitution and its application to Mr. Obama.

    Robert Schulz will briefly discuss Mr. Obama’s response to the publication of his Open Letter in the Chicago Tribune on Monday and Wednesday of this week. For the reasons given in the Open Letter, Schulz asked Mr. Obama to: (1) immediately authorize Hawaiian officials to provide a team of forensic scientists access to his original (“vault”) birth certificate and (2) arrange for the delivery of other documents needed to conclusively establish Obama’s citizenship status. Mr. Schulz will answer questions from the press.

    “Under our Constitution, no one is eligible to assume the Office of the President unless he or she is a ‘natural born citizen,'” said Bob Schulz, Chairman of the Foundation. “To date, Mr. Obama has refused all requests to release his original birth certificate or other documents that would definitively establish his citizenship status and thus his constitutional eligibility.”

    The Open Letter to Mr. Obama summarizes the evidence against Mr. Obama and the adverse consequences that would befall the Nation should he assume the Office of the President as a usurper.

    “Should the state members of the Electoral College cast their votes for Mr. Obama in the face of such overwhelming evidence, and without verification of Mr. Obama’s eligibility, they would be committing treason to the Constitution,” said Schulz.

    http://www.WeThePeopleFoundation.org

    SOURCE We The People Foundation For Constitutional Education, Inc.

    http://www.WeThePeopleFoundation.org

  128. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Patty

    OJ did what he is accused of,……. found guilty by his peers…

    he got a get out of jail free card before because of the prosecuters’ failing at their jobs

  129. Foxtrot Says:

    JAC – I think Thomas put the case out for conference for several reasons.

    1) He knew that everyone would remember Obama had not-so-nice things to say about Thomas and he didn’t want people to think he was holding a grudge with his ruling

    2) He knew it was a bit enough case, with incredible ramifications, and didn’t want to bear the burden or go down in history as the Justice who brought the first soon-to-be President of color, down.

    3) I think he has an inkling about how he will rule, but he is a bit hesitant and wants some of the more experienced Justices to help him out.

    Just my speculation, but if I were him, these are the three things I would be thinking!

  130. Foxtrot Says:

    #2 should read “big” enough case

  131. Foxtrot Says:

    Still in moderation at MS! Does she hate Rosetta or her Gang or something? Why would she? We are all so wonderful here! hehe

  132. rosettasister Says:

    “The Supreme Court Wants to Choose the President Again!”

    12/5/08 at 11:50 AM

    http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2008/12/supreme_court_is_choosing_the.html

  133. oo12oo Says:

    hockeyfan530 Says:

    December 5, 2008 at 4:46 pm
    Al,
    Last week the lamp on my end table wouldn’t turn on. So obviously, the first thing i did was call the electric company to shut down the entire grid because there’s obviously some rolling blackouts going on. They asked why i believe that. I said, well, um, helllllooooo, my lamp isn’t working. The woman said sir, did you try changing the light bulb? I said, well i guess i could try, let me plug it in and then i’ll try.

    See what i’m saying?

    *************************************************************

    Hey Hockeyfan’,

    Got it, loud and clear. With your post in mind though, please try to consider this, while working the matrix backwards, this is exactly what the US intelligence communities, having compartmentalized their possible relationship Mr. Obama, hopes too that all the voters would simply turn on the switch at the table-stage (outcome of election day) so they (akin to the electric company) wouldn’t have to be acknowledged in the process at all.
    Good points, Hockeyfan’, but I still see a total blackout (no pun/nor offense to Mr. Obama) Mr. Obama’s sealed records as we continue to wind down to 5pm.

    Al

  134. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I just hope it gets a vote of 5 or more.

    Evidence is evidence,….. even though the msm tries to spin it to mean absolutely nothing and just radical views…..

    hope they keep in mind that almost half the population didn’t vote for BO and the the ones that didn’t vote at all are for the most part not BO fans..

  135. oo12oo Says:

    Foxtrot Says:

    December 5, 2008 at 5:09 pm
    Al, as my daughters used to say when they were 2 years old, “What a ‘poopy head’ Sage is!” Oops, better not say that as she may check here at Rosetta to decide whether or not to get my comment out of moderation?

    *************************************************************

    Out of the mouth of babes they say (poopy head, lol) Face it, Foxy, you are now stuck here with this great group. MS and her crew may be a lot of things but it’s like a wolfpack over there–you’re either in or out.

    Al

  136. Foxtrot Says:

    Oh my gosh! LOL! LOL! Look at today’s post by API. Don’t worry, I did not go to their site, as I refuse to give that man any of my time, but this post was posted on another blog!

    africanpress Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 3:52 am

    The tape will come as stated above. If the tape were not to come, all the contents in the tape that is of major interest to the US will be in the book and people may want to read for themselves and keep it for historical purposes, because the contents is really really that really.

    Site monitor

  137. Foxtrot Says:

    Al, you questioning my loyalty?!?!?! I just want to see if the ego maniac over there will allow the “Rosetta Gang ROCKS” on her site.

  138. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Whoooooooo hoooooo

    lol,…. 60,138 letters shipped……………… includes 6,682 FedEx packages of nine letters each

    wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=82717

  139. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Yes Al, I do know the saying. I’m a tender-hearted boob!

  140. oo12oo Says:

    Foxtrot Says:

    December 5, 2008 at 5:25 pm
    Al, you questioning my loyalty?!?!?! I just want to see if the ego maniac over there will allow the “Rosetta Gang ROCKS” on her site.

    **************************************************************

    Heavens, nooooooo, Foxy. Quite the contrary–MS is on to you, so your time is precious so why waste it trying to fool people who are already aware where your true allegiance belongs.

    Al

  141. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Al

    I have a 100% white alaskan snow wolf in the back yard…… she is such a big baby

  142. oo12oo Says:

    PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    December 5, 2008 at 5:27 pm
    Yes Al, I do know the saying. I’m a tender-hearted boob!

    *************************************************************

    Nothing ever wrong with having a good heart, Susan, but I trust that you already know in matters of justice the right thing needs to be done.

    Al

  143. Foxtrot Says:

    Ok Al. All is forgiven!

    Last night on Plains Radio they said they had 300,000 letters sent to SCOTUS, then they said 1.2 million!!! What the heck! I wonder what the real number is?

  144. thinkingmom11 Says:

    OK TOON – check your email! You have recipe!!!

    I do not use a recipe when I make much of anything (other than baking) so it is a little unorthodox in form. I typed it and WOW – I am SOOOO behind here! You guys are BUSY!

    Gonna go back up and try to catch up before I have to go. Y’all have a great day!

  145. oo12oo Says:

    justanamericancindy4 Says:

    December 5, 2008 at 5:29 pm
    Al

    I have a 100% white alaskan snow wolf in the back yard…… she is such a big baby

    **************************************************************

    Absolutely beautiful, Cindy! She sounds like a warm, fluffy doll. A loyal friend to the very end.

    Al

  146. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    this quote is so right on
    _________________
    This constitutional eligibility test has become a key issue with me because if the plain language of the Constitution is no longer taken seriously by our nation’s controlling legal authorities, we have become an outlaw nation – no longer under the rule of law but under the rule of men.”

  147. Foxtrot Says:

    I am glad I sent my letters last week via Fed Ex. I am also happy I put the nine letters in bright red envelopes so mine would be seen more readily! Hope they read mine. I put alot of thought into them.

  148. Foxtrot Says:

    JAC, who said that?

  149. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Ok everyone– I hear you–OJ doesn’t deserve mercy—sink his ship along with the Somali pirates, feed him to the sharks, tear him from limb to limb–he deserves it—

    I had a total lapse in my “judgemental” self– had a moment of mercy on an undeserving lump of human crab meat———

    oops, that’s what my Abba did for me—

  150. oo12oo Says:

    Foxtrot Says:

    December 5, 2008 at 5:30 pm
    Ok Al. All is forgiven!

    Last night on Plains Radio they said they had 300,000 letters sent to SCOTUS, then they said 1.2 million!!! What the heck! I wonder what the real number is?

    **************************************************************

    Okay, Foxy, that’s wonderful news! Lunch will go down better due to that kind revelation–thanks. Off to pick-up soap and sandwiches for the office gang. Barring no unforseen circumstances, sudden snowstorm, etc., will check back later. Peace.

    Al

  151. Foxtrot Says:

    Office gang? Why Al! You may have just had a slip of the tongue! How can you have an “office gang” when you are a “farmhand”? Gotcha!

  152. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Foxy, Alice goes off to get lunch at this time every day. I could almost set my clock by Al’s lunch runs! So Alice, what’s for lunch today?

  153. Foxtrot Says:

    I thought Al was a MAN!?!

  154. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    But Alice, unless you planning on washing someone’s mouth out with “soap” you might want to get “soup”— Just sayingggg—

  155. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Foxy, we must never assume! I thought HockeyFan was gal, only to find out that he’s a he and not a she. Bet HF thought I was a big ole flirt! Al may be a he, Obama may be a NBC–

  156. indy500 Says:

    Al, your attacks on Patty, Fox, Troy, Hockey and anyone else here are freakin bogus. Why don’t you go back under the bridge where your master has put you and wait for your freakin treat. I’m sure it will be a good one seeing your hard work here.

  157. oo12oo Says:

    Foxtrot Says:

    December 5, 2008 at 5:35 pm
    Office gang? Why Al! You may have just had a slip of the tongue! How can you have an “office gang” when you are a “farmhand”? Gotcha!

    **************************************************************

    Foxy, Foxy, Foxy with apologies to President Ronald Reagan, “there you go again”. Since I’ve been posting/blogging I always take a few minutes to change my navy blue overalls in anticipation of a lunch run and poke my head into the little farm office where the ladies sell fresh vegetables, milk, and/or eggs to the public and asked anyone if they want soup or sandwiches while I’m out. Again, Foxy, I’m nothing more than a simpleminded farmhand. Try to have a wonderful day. Wondering aloud if you will get the news/decision you seek by 5pm today. Peace. I’m signing off…

    Al

  158. Foxtrot Says:

    Al, what ever happened to the promise of ceasing the condescending tone? And this Ronald Reagan impersonation has got to stop! LOL!

    Finally, Al, if you are a farmhand, then I am the Queen of England!

  159. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Fox it is in the link I posted about the letters

  160. Foxtrot Says:

    Indy — thanks for defending us! You are truly one of the Rosetta Gang! However, I think Al is harmless enough. I give him credit for coming onto a website where he knows he has opposing viewpoints!

  161. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    JAC, I have huge solid white, crystal blue-eyed siberian husky. People on the mountain used to think he was a white wolf, til they got to know him. He’s a big beautiful baby. He loves to grab and steal whatever stuffed animal or stray toy he can and runs off to the depths of the mnts with his treasures. He’s royalty for sure!

  162. thinkingmom11 Says:

    bbl – gotta run, good peeps…

  163. indy500 Says:

    Go grind your ax somewhere else you fat, freakin jackass!

  164. Foxtrot Says:

    Indy 500 – where in Indy are you from?

  165. Foxtrot Says:

    Indy- who was that last comment to? Wow!

  166. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    trying it upload the pic to my photobucket… of my wolf Lightening

  167. Foxtrot Says:

    JAC– you have a wolf???

  168. Foxtrot Says:

    Can you believe I am still in moderation at MS? There are comments posting under mine, but mine is still not allowed yet.

  169. Foxtrot Says:

    I wish Ksnide would find an internet cafe nearby and shoot us off a quick comment about how things are going at the march/demonstration at SCOTUS!

  170. Foxtrot Says:

    Ksinde and Gator — We are dying here! We want to hear something! Hope you all made it safe and sound and are staying warm. I know they said no signs, but did you bring any? (writing just in case she accesses our site while she is there)

  171. Foxtrot Says:

    Here is yet another lawsuit filed with SCOTUS regarding Obama’s citizenship. Place the usual h t t p: / / in front of address.

    citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/12/05/christopher-strunk-lawsuit-us-supreme-court-writ-of-mandamus-ny-electoral-college-restrain-associate-justice-ginsburg-dc-district-court-state-constitutional-issues-scotus-rule-22-december-4/

    How many more are coming? This issue will not go away!

  172. Foxtrot Says:

    Post from another blog:

    Anonymous said…
    Well! Well! Well! The Today Show on NBC today at 7:15 AM, finally acknowledged the challenge of Barack Obamas citizenship before the courts. The reporter stated he guessed we will have an answer on Monday, whether or not the US Supreme Court will grant a hearing on the case. Of course his opinion was negative regarding the court ruling to side with voters rather than to give an interpretation of a “natural born” citizen.

    The pressure is mounting for answers is Barack Obama eligible to president. Atleast one major media will be watching in Washington today.

    December 5, 2008 7:27 AM

  173. indy500 Says:

    Foxtrot Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 5:50 pm:
    ____________________
    It’s to Al’s spamming, fat, stinking arse. I absolutely hate trolls who come onto a site and try to disrupt everyone who wants to get their opinions known. Why don’t they smell their own hole and stick to their own kind?

    I’m From a county just south of Marian. We went 2 to 1 for Palin. Been up for over 20 hours. I work night shift. Usually, I get in on the end of threads, but fat arse has kept me up beyond my bed time.

  174. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    back had to reboot

    Fox yeah I have a wolf her name is lightening 🙂 her pic….

    i171.photobucket.com/albums/u304/cinda66/Lightening.jpg

  175. Foxtrot Says:

    Place the normal h t t p: / / in front of the address. More coverage!

    See a CNN video on the supreme court case at us.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/12/05/arena.obama.citizenship.cnn

  176. Foxtrot Says:

    Indy –JAC and I are in Vigo County!

  177. inspirational1 Says:

    O’s picks for his staff…sad

    voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/12/04/one_more_question.html
    One More Question…

    Incoming Obama administration director of speechwriting Jon Favreau (L) and a friend pose with a cardboard cutout of incoming Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton at a party. (Obtained by The Washington Post)

    Updated 9:22 p.m.
    By Al Kamen
    Question No. 58 in the transition team vetting document for the Obama White House asks that applicants: “Please provide the URL address of any websites that feature you in either a personal or professional capacity (e.g. Facebook, My Space, etc.)”

    Question No. 63 asks that applicants “please provide any other information … that could … be a possible source of embarrassment to you, your family, or the President-Elect.”

    For a while there this afternoon, President-elect Barack Obama’s immensely talented chief speechwriter, 27-year-old Jon Favreau, might have been pondering how to address that question.

    That’s when some interesting photos of a recent party he attended — including one where he’s dancing with a life-sized cardboard cut-out of secretary of state-designate Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, and another where he’s placed his hand on the cardboard former first lady’s chest while a friend is offering her lips a beer — popped up on Facebook for about two hours. The photos were quickly taken down — along with every other photo Favreau had of himself on the popular social networking site, save for one profile headshot.

    Asked about the photos, Favreau, who was recently appointed director of speechwriting for the White House, declined comment. A transition official said that Favreau had “reached out to Senator Clinton to offer an apology.”

    Favreau is not the first campaign aide whose online presence has proved awkward. Last March, John McCain aide Soren Dayton forwarded an anti-Obama YouTube video to his private Twitter feed linking Obama with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, leading to his suspension from the campaign. And in 2007, two bloggers hired by former North Carolina senator John Edwards stepped down after blog posts they had written before he hired them became a subject of controversy.

    Favreau’s case seems unlikely to be so dire; Clinton senior adviser Philippe Reines cast the photos as evidence of increased bonhomie between the formerly rival camps.

    “Senator Clinton is pleased to learn of Jon’s obvious interest in the State Department, and is currently reviewing his application,” he said in an e-mail.

  178. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    indy

    can I offer you a nice hot cup of coco,,,, promise to put in lots and lots of marshmellows…….

  179. amy Says:

    Home for lunch.. Checked into MS new site and tried to comment on the fact that this case today is NOT about Obamas citizenship or McCains either and that it is about their “natural born ” status.. I tried commenting about it 3 times and still in moderation.. I never commented their before.. I am just getting so tired of people making comments without being informed..(like Andrew the author here)

  180. amy Says:

    Ok lunch done..back to work

  181. Foxtrot Says:

    Amy, I have been in moderation over there for about 2 hours! I wouldn’t hold your breath for coming out of it alive! Hey, we can have lunch or tea in moderation together, while we wait?!?! Hehe.

  182. Foxtrot Says:

    I hear the tea there is a bit ‘sour’ but packs a huge PUNCH! LOL!

  183. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Fox
    shaking head that cnn coverage was good until the very end

    I feel like using bam bam’s club and wacking anybody that says “case close”

  184. Foxtrot Says:

    I know JAC, I know!

  185. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    amy c u back l8r

  186. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Fox

    you take a look at lightening’s pic ….. she’s a mommy’s girl

  187. Foxtrot Says:

    OH MY GOSH!!! My comment made it on MS! It clearly ends with my ever present voice of truth . . . the ROSETTA GANG ROCKS! Okay, who took that bet before?!?

  188. Foxtrot Says:

    JAC, do I put w w w in front of that photobucket address?

  189. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    case closed, get over it and sour grapes will be three phrases on my no no list….

  190. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    not just http

  191. Foxtrot Says:

    JAC, what are you talking about?

  192. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Hello Amy– ms is a guarded site–good luck posting over there unless you know the secret handshake– it reminds me of something like what my dogs do when they meet another dog– sniff sniff… is all I can say! Not willing to do secret handshake then I wouldn’t even bother an attempt at posting over there…

    Except Al, Al gets in and is allowed to post– but remember that Al drinks from the bottle that says, “drink me”– and then Alice steps through the Looking glass, and slides down the rabbit hole…

    INDY, I like you– and I understand where you are coming from, but there’s really no need to go over the top on Al… hope you are able to get some sleep.. we all want to be ready for whatever comes down the SCOTUS pike!

  193. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I will just put the link in my name……. give me a sec…..
    photobucket links just don’t want to work well here for some reason

  194. Foxtrot Says:

    Beautiful dog, JAC!

  195. Foxtrot Says:

    Or is that supposed to be ‘wolf’?

  196. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    OK so Foxy got on, but it’s only because MS ran over here and new we were watching to see if she was going to open the magic door! Way to go Foxy—

  197. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    should be ok now

  198. indy500 Says:

    Foxtrot Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 6:11 pm:
    _____________________________
    I’m from Morgan County. A good place to live. I just recently moved to to a job in Hamilton County which is much better that than the inner city. However, I do deal with stuff that I dealt with in the city.

  199. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    OJ got 15 years, plus all the consecutive years–they say he will do all 15 –it’s a minimum of 5 years–but they threw the book at him–

  200. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    yep 100% alaskan snow wolf…….

    she was kidnapped from wolf park as a pup….. the hubby found her at a kill shelter and adopted her…… had to get special paperwork….but she is 100% big baby….. even lets every cat in the neighborhood eat all of her food….

  201. j.b. Says:

    voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/12/04/one_more_question.html

    Ahahahahahahahahahahaaha! He sure knows how to pick ’em.
    The laws of attraction are real people.

  202. Foxtrot Says:

    Amy’s posts made it on MS too! Wow, I had better look up to see if the sky is falling!

  203. Foxtrot Says:

    Hooray! So glad OJ is finally going to do ‘time’! Even if it is for something unrelated to the murders.

  204. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    j.b

    woooooo Foxy isn’t gonna like that photo…..lol

  205. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    I’m going to email Ksinde and see if she has any word for us yet. Anyone got any questions for her?

  206. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    From MS site: Wizcon Says:
    December 5th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
    Sage, I stopped in rosetta’s blog to see what was going on with the Supreme court case and some one there is upset because she has been in moderation with you all morning. They were slamming MS somewhat because they think we are critical of them and think we crashed API. Can’t get it thru their heads that someone only came here to boast about it and hasn’t been seen since.

    Didn’t someone tell me that Al could be wizcon on MS site?

  207. Foxtrot Says:

    What? No one trashed MS on this site. We simply said we were in moderation for a long time. What a snitch!

  208. Foxtrot Says:

    Patty, ask Ksinde how many people were in attendance. Also ask if Berg or Leo was there and did they speak?

  209. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    patty

    yep that is what I think……. al = wizcon

  210. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    I’ll do it Foxy…

    anyone else?

  211. Foxtrot Says:

    j.b. — What a pig those kids were to do that to that Hillary cut out! Why I oughta . . . !

  212. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Fox

    well I didn’t say nice things about MS

    but then I was a attacked by one of theirs,………. cloned even and they ran right back there to MS…caught them myself………

    but you know MS is perfect…… her and her thugs are perfect b…….hs

  213. ladyliberty Says:

    Finally received a response from Mr. Carl Levin, my Senator. Below is the short response that was emailed today – I wonder why???? Below is my response.

    Dear Ms. ***:

    Thank you for contacting me regarding the false rumors surrounding President-elect Obama’s citizenship status. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts with me.

    As you may know, Article II, Section I of the U.S. Constitution states that, “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.”

    President-elect Obama was born in Hawaii as documented by his official birth certificate. He is, therefore, a natural born citizen of the United States. Thank you again for writing.

    Sincerely,
    Carl Levin

    ____________

    You are clearly uninformed on the Constitution Mr. Levin. This makes me really fearful that you are my representative and my spokesperson in government. Do your homework sir. The issue is not necessarily about his birth certificate. It is more about divided loyalties and multiple citizenships in other countries. But since you mention the birth issue, we don’t really know where Mr. Obama was born. Not one person, including the State of Hawaii has validated any Birth Certificate or has released its true contents. They only say they have it. The one that is posted could not get my child on a t-ball team, so I don’t think he satisfies the requirement for the most powerful person in the world. Please don’t insult my intelligence and do some research before sending a reply. I learned a long time ago not to believe anything without proof, yet you and your colleagues want to take him at his word. There is actually far more evidence that he was not born in Hawaii than there is that he was – but again that is not the only issue.

    It is clear that those running Congress are uniformed and unwilling to look at the question, and are likely the reason Mr. Obama has been able to get away with this for so long. It is also clear that the problems of the economy will not be corrected by this group in Congress either. Partisanship and special interests dominate, without an independent logical mind in the bunch. Why, sir, would Mr. Obama spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to fight these cases to avoid releasing a piece of paper that any parent would have to produce for numerous reasons? He has not proven these accusations false, and your unwillingness to question makes me wonder if you were understand the consequences of allowing someone to blatantly disregard our country’s laws. A true patriotic American would try to protect our most valued document, not state untruths in defense of those that treat this important document with contempt.

    This is not going away, sir. You should do some research and not just trust the spin. There are hundreds of thousands of us who have done our homework and are questioning this. We are tired of being pushed aside. Please, do your job and require that he prove his eligibility.

    Sincerely,

    ***********

  214. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    j.b

    told ya,……. foxy doesn’t have a sense of humor when it comes to Hillary
    lol…..

    booze and kids = childish behavior just a fact

  215. Foxtrot Says:

    Lady – did you send that response you posted yet? What a dufus he is! People just have their head in the sand!

  216. Foxtrot Says:

    No one messes with my Hillary!!!

  217. Foxtrot Says:

    I have got to run some errands. Be back later. Keep the torch lit while I am gone! Can’t wait to hear from Ksinde.

  218. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    lol I wonder how well it would go over if we did email each senator and governer of our states and basically tell them if they ignore us and this issue…..we’ll remember to ignore them at election time

  219. ladyliberty Says:

    Yes – just sent it out.

  220. hockeyfan530 Says:

    so who’s stoked about the latest API news!? LOL

  221. ladyliberty Says:

    I don’t vote for Levin, but I love to tell them that I won’t anyway.

  222. indy500 Says:

    justanamericancindy4 Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 6:51 pm:
    __________________________________
    The lapdogs suck. Run back to the master and beg for the treat. Master pats them on the head then sends them out for the next trick.

  223. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I didn’t vote for ditch mitch even thoough he was republican for Governer of my state……
    But I did jump party and vote for a Dem Senator… he was great to the people of this state during the flooding….and thought that should be rewarded with a vote

  224. Wizcon Says:

    No I am not Al. I post on very few sites partly because of the abuse of contact info on many. I am reasonable assured that Rosetta does not do that. I know Sage doesn’t. Al posts on both sites
    Yes you have been slamming MS. Scroll back and see the thug comments smile on the face knife in the back etc. And that is just today. I have seen it before.
    Sage slept in and does not sit at the computer all day. As soon as she saw there were comments in moderation, which is normal the first time some one posts, they went up. I believe Rosetta does the same. The regulars at Sage seem to be of all political persuasion’s, what brought them together is a scammer and thief. My interest is with the scam at API after initially going there to see about the tapes.
    Also, I have yet to see any derogatory comments about this site over there. Aside from that, if you have an opinion about something, expect a counter opinion. I visit here to see whats new in the lawsuits.

    To me Cindy has a problem with Sage and takes as many opportunities to voice that displeasure with her as possible. Yet I do remember Cindy posting on Sage.
    The ones that lay claim to shutting down API came on Sage to brag about it and have not been seen since.

    justanamericancindy4 Says:

    December 5, 2008 at 4:20 pm
    Fox

    MS is Mountain Sage, she has a blog and tried to act like blog police of other blogs….. her members are the ones that attacted API and got them shut down.

  225. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    OK sent the email off to Ksinde… hopefully she’ll get it soon and we can know something.

    API doesn’t stoke me anymore HF—I just ignore them. I used to enjoy going over and chatting with everyone. But, I won’t be used by Korir. It’s obvious the man is stringing everyone along, and it’s sad because there were many fine people over there who held on (are holding on) to false hope. I think that if there were a tape, Korir would have sold it to the highest bidder.

    I think to continue to give the man “ear” time or air time only promotes his con. Even if there were a tape, he’s conned everyone by promising to release it first before the elections and then before the electoral vote and then before the inauguration–well, now you will just have to buy the book to see how the story plays out–I’m sure the book will be out “soon”…

  226. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Hey Rosie, you got any tapes? Didn’t BO call you and say he was going over to the hospital he was born at in Mombassa for a special photo op?

  227. ladyliberty Says:

    I have voted for Democrats, Republicans and Libertarian candidates. I am truthfully more a Libertarian than anything else. This election I voted a straight Republican ticket and find myself becoming more and more conservative. I never thought that would happen! I am a teacher after all and the MEA and NEA already tell me how to vote, so I should not question them. 🙂

  228. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    indy
    ________ agree

    I’m not a fan of API,.. it went past plausable to fiction… even to the point of bizarre now….. but unless something illegal is going on….. it none of their business and acting like blog police and playing childish games is just plain stupid.

    but they say you can’t fix stupid …. don’t even think that Drsharon could not end up in a funny farm after spending time on her own psych couch…… scarey that she is able to be around children.she is probably one of those that thinks ever kid is abused by their parents and need taken away…..she strikes me as the type.

  229. hockeyfan530 Says:

    lady,
    excellent response. Man, it is scary how closed minded and uniformed these people are. The case is based on a KNOWN FACT! Not a conspiracy theory. It completely legit to ask if bambam is a “natural born citizen”.

    pepper,
    I was just being silly…I think API is funny…what a collosal waste of time that is

  230. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Awesome Lady – sic ’em!

  231. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Well, Lady, I always voted dem. until they had to draw a line in the sand, so I erased their line and drew my own. I, of course, being the ar-tista that I am, added little squiggles and curly-q’s to mine– threw on a splash of color and called it “a December nights Dream”– SCOTUS signed it and BO and MO had to move to Mombassa!

  232. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    HF– you’re always funny–unless you’re not..like when you are being serious!

  233. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    sorry guys,,,

    MS is just a subject that gets under my skin…

    what the real shame is….. IF they could behave we could of been a heck of a tag team on this issue

  234. rosettasister Says:

    Wizcon Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 7:09 pm

    _________________

    Welcome, Wizcon!

    Very interesting!

    Rosetta

  235. indy500 Says:

    Foxtrot Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 6:57 pm
    No one messes with my Hillary!!!
    ______________________________
    I would have agreed with you until Bill made a deal to disclose all his contributors while O’s remain unknown. Hillary could have been the force against evil but she signed a pact with him. She could have been again him but chose to side with him. I think Hillary is fair game because of her willingness to side with him (MS goes wild…) if she would have distance hereslf from him then I believe most would be for her. But she chose darkness rather than light.

  236. hockeyfan530 Says:

    I vote straight republican. Although the republicans have really let me down in the recent past my views are still more aligned with the reps. I could never vote dem…unless they weren’t a real dem. Just don’t share any of their views. But I certainly would not have had a problem with Hilary in. Bambam? well i think that goes without saying. Let’s just hope the SC puts bambam’s pebbles in a vice! See what i did there? bambam/pebbles! good times

  237. rosettasister Says:

    justanamericancindy4 Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 4:20 pm

    Fox

    MS is Mountain Sage, she has a blog and tried to act like blog police of other blogs….. her members are the ones that attacted API and got them shut down.

    ——————-

    Well, isn’t that true?

    If not Sage herself, then perhaps some of her regulars.

    Whether or not you agree with a particular blog, is that good enough reason to silence them?

    I’ve seen this happen before.

    Some of these seemingly innocuous commenters are savvy enough to bring a blog down, on wordpress or not.

    What kind of precedent does this set?

    Shouldn’t blogs at least distance themselves from this kind of antisocial behavior?

  238. Wizcon Says:

    I don’t understand Cindy. How are the Sage people misbehaving? They continue their investigation of Korir. Sage posts articles of a variety of political issues trying to stay neutral.
    Now that you mention it I do remember you having a problem with cloning. On API and Sage. It took some sorting out. Many people did, but that was in no way Sages fault. She expressed concern that becausse API was crashed her site could be too. Hence the new site.
    great recipes there by the way. That cocunut cake is to die for.

  239. rosettasister Says:

    Wizcon Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 7:37 pm

    She expressed concern that becausse API was crashed her site could be too.

    ———————-

    Yes, exactly!

  240. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I like Palin,….. she was the only bright spot on the ticket…

    the msm nick picked and tore he apart because she wasn’t “Washington enough” …. I think she is a very smart lady that would of filled in the blanks extremely quickly given half a chance.
    guess she didn’t put enough startch in her panties to fit in properly

  241. rosettasister Says:

    justanamericancindy4 Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 7:40 pm

    “guess she (Palin) didn’t put enough startch in her panties to fit in properly”

    ——————–

    This is why I love Cindy!

    Her commentary is up there with the best of them.

    And hilarious, too!

  242. oo12oo Says:

    Wizcon Says:

    December 5, 2008 at 7:37 pm
    I don’t understand Cindy. How are the Sage people misbehaving? They continue their investigation of Korir. Sage posts articles of a variety of political issues trying to stay neutral.
    Now that you mention it I do remember you having a problem with cloning. On API and Sage. It took some sorting out. Many people did, but that was in no way Sages fault. She expressed concern that becausse API was crashed her site could be too. Hence the new site.
    great recipes there by the way. That cocunut cake is to die for.

    *************************************************************

    Please to make your aquaintance, Wizcon. Don’t think our paths have ever crossed before.

    Al

  243. hockeyfan530 Says:

    I enjoyed the bambam supporters who said she didn’t have enough experience. Equal to if not more than bambam but that didn’t seem to register with the bambamonites.

    Then the old “one heartbeat away from the presidency”. I always say “one heartbeat away…” is far better than “countless lies away….”

  244. rosettasister Says:

    Well, going out into the beautiful Valley of the Sun.

    I definitely will check this out later!

  245. Rob Says:

    The MSM tried to destroy Palin because they got a whiff of integrity. That’s like kryptonite to them!

  246. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    lol thank you rose

  247. Wizcon Says:

    rosettasister Says:

    December 5, 2008 at 7:38 pm
    Wizcon Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 7:37 pm

    She expressed concern that becausse API was crashed her site could be too.

    ———————-

    Yes, exactly!

    The person that layed claim to crashing the API site was chastised on Sage, by Sage and the others there. We haven’t seen him/her since.

  248. Wizcon Says:

    Not that I know of Al. never know in blog land with all these alias’s. Dangerous to post your real name! Get enough spam as it is!

  249. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Palin represented old true values……. something that scares the he77 out of liberials, and liberial Dem’s ….

    I wish the electorials were set up different…. so many per county of a state for a grand total……… bugs me that a state can be almost completely red….but a county’s with a city is blue and sways the whole states vote.

  250. oo12oo Says:

    Wizcon Says:

    December 5, 2008 at 7:48 pm
    Not that I know of Al. never know in blog land with all these alias’s. Dangerous to post your real name! Get enough spam as it is!

    *************************************************************

    Understand your post fully, Wizcon. Also, thanks for helping to clarify that we are separate individuals as there may have been some discussion/suggestion earlier today that we may be one and the same. Maybe good for me, but not so great for you, so good to see you here so you may honor and keep your good name. Peace.

    Al

  251. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    al…. Wizcon
    same or different doesn’t matter

    yes MS had ONE that took it to extreme and crashed the site……

    but about 8 regulars of MS went over there cloning,…… attacking bloggers….. causing mischief…… putting up fake api sites ….and pd’ing posts to get API tossed from WP …I don’t have a problem with my long term memory

  252. oo12oo Says:

    God Bless Governor Sarah Palin and her wonderful family too. The MSM were so unfairly biased towards her.

    Al

  253. Rob Says:

    Cindy – Sounds like a bad case of blogger’s romper room… or people with way too much time on their hands!

  254. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Rob

    yeah… but they very sad thing is…… I know these are smart people… I have read their posts……. but the childish antics go overboard

  255. hockeyfan530 Says:

    I also love how the “feminist” were bashing her. Seems that feminist are only feminists for women that believe as they do. Palin had everything. A career, a family and well, looks. She is what i look to and say now that is a woman women should want to be like….well, Palin or Rosie O’Donnell

    LOL just kidding about Rosie. If my dog were like Rosie….I’d shave her butt and teach her to walk backwards and then send her packing because i don’t want a dog that is as dumb as rosie! Plus she’d eat too much (couldn’t resist the personal attack sorry ladies)

  256. Rob Says:

    Smart people do stupid things all the time… like forging birth certificates, selective service applications, etc 😉

  257. indy500 Says:

    Wizcon Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 7:37 pm:
    ______________________________
    Your cute little innocent comments suck, just like API. You attack someone who has nothing to do with your favorite target – API. Everyone here has moved on from that farce. When you attack Cindy you attack all of us. Your motive is old and your allegation has been proven false. Why not go to a web site that is fresh and new to your BS. Go to Free Republic or somewhere else and spread your crap. You along with big Al have worn out your welcome here. Time to switch gears you bridge sitting trolls.

  258. oo12oo Says:

    Lol at Hockeyfan’s Rosie pet dog comments. Yes, true, Governor Sarah Palin was/is a well-rounded, competent and beautiful woman too. The MSM sensed her election breaker status immediately and dropped their gloves and simply ripped into her unfairly.

    Al

  259. Wizcon Says:

    I started Pd’fing posts when I saw selective deletion of the comments. They are still on my computer and on Cd.Many of these articles have totally disappeared from the site. API is rewriting their history and micromanaging the comments to brush up their image. I never posted there because of the personal information requirement which has come back to bite many.
    It’s the tough questions to sammy that he refused to answer that got him in trouble with the trouble makers. Those that ask the questions get banned and deleted.
    To say Sage had control over other’s actions is unrealistic. Most there are not that knowledgeable enaough on computers to crash a site ar even begin to understand. Sluggojd did a mirror site to trace files. That is apparently a program you can download free. It doesn’t crash sites. That exposed that the original API michelle Obama tape article came from Obamafiles.
    Most Sage regulars take issue with unsourced statements. Speculation does not hold there.

  260. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    hockey

    lol lol lol
    _______-
    Rosey has her foot in her mouth most of the time

    Naww Palin was a threat,……. she was someone that was doing it all,….raising a family and being true to her goals…. and deciding that belief in all life was correct even when faced with the birth of a handicapped child…..

    looking at her,…they run out of excuses for their own decisions…

  261. oo12oo Says:

    Wizcon,

    Don’t know you from Adam, so you proceed with Indy’ as you see fit. As far as I’m concerned I’ll respect Rosetta’s authority and shall stay or leave when she says so. From all that I know of her she is more than fair and respectful in her tone and expectations, and as her blog’s history will bear out I have been attacked on many occasions, yet have never onced called anyone anything other than their God given name or the sign-in name. Peace.

    Al

    5pm is just around the corner, some 110 minutes away and the SCOTUS seems to be still holding court.

  262. Rob Says:

    “Most Sage regulars take issue with unsourced statements. Speculation does not hold there.”

    Seriously?? Have they not been on the internet very long? It’s chock full of unsourced statements and speculation.

  263. Rob Says:

    Not much different than a congressional press conference…

  264. Wizcon Says:

    indy500 Says:

    December 5, 2008 at 8:02 pm
    Wizcon Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 7:37 pm:
    ______________________________
    Your cute little innocent comments suck, just like API. You attack someone who has nothing to do with your favorite target – API. Everyone here has moved on from that farce. When you attack Cindy you attack all of us. Your motive is old and your allegation has been proven false. Why not go to a web site that is fresh and new to your BS. Go to Free Republic or somewhere else and spread your crap. You along with big Al have worn out your welcome here. Time to switch gears you bridge sitting trolls.

    Nice. So you don’t like opinions other than your own? I am not bashing Cindy. I pointed out that Cindy had a problem with MS. She clarified, I clarified. I feel there was a misunderstanding with Cindy at some point. Name calling is a shortcut. Doesn’t say much other than a flash of anger, not why you are angy.
    Rosetta very nicely let my post out of moderation and welcomed me.

  265. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Indy

    soft smile thank you

    _____–
    yes,….. and I also have pdf’s of sages blog….right after API crashed…. before sage deleted all the bad posts…….

  266. oo12oo Says:

    Wizcon,

    Again, don’t know you from Adam, but just for clarification sake I have only posted at MS twice in this lifetime, both comments centering around “Grace’s” recently published background research articles on Mr. Korir over at API.

    Off to retreive a lost calf in the meadow…be bbl barring no unforseen circumstances, and, of course, as long as Rosetta believes my behavior warrants a return. Peace, everyone. Yes, even you too, Indy’.

    God Bless America

    Al

  267. Troy Says:

    Rosey has her foot in her mouth most of the time

    Naww Palin was a threat,……. she was someone that was doing it all,….raising a family and being true to her goals…. and deciding that belief in all life was correct even when faced with the birth of a handicapped child…..

    looking at her,…they run out of excuses for their own decisions…
    ————————————————————-
    Rosie O is nothing more than a fat, loud mouthed, smelly Wilderbeast….She ran The View into the groud and her new show will be an enormous flop as well.

  268. Rob Says:

    I thought her new show was cancelled already.

  269. Wizcon Says:

    Rob Says:

    December 5, 2008 at 8:11 pm
    “Most Sage regulars take issue with unsourced statements. Speculation does not hold there.”

    Seriously?? Have they not been on the internet very long? It’s chock full of unsourced statements and speculation.

    Check out sages articles. They are always sourced. Any speculation ends up being researched. Much like what you have been doing here.
    Fully aware of all the blogs that just throw stuff out there. thats why you here and those at sage do so much research. The majority of what you hear on blogs is pure innuendo.
    hate to see it leak into general “knowledge” as a fact

  270. Troy Says:

    Good…It goes to show you how much I pay attention to that disgusting pig

  271. hockeyfan530 Says:

    Rosie, sandra barnhart are two examples of why animals eat their young. Genine Garofollo can kiss my entire white *ss too! Madonna? Come on lady, nobody cares what you think. You’re a has been…time to give it up and great job with the phony british accent.

  272. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Wow, I leave for a few minutes and all the celebrities show up! How can I save the world and get the house work done and keep an eye on what’s going on here! Oh well, I guess I will have to let someone else save the world– a girl has to have priorities!

  273. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Last post on the subject of MS

    If they can’t come here and behave.
    then they don’t need to come her at all

    I am not a computer dummy,…I happen to hold a computer degree…. with quick reseach I could of mirrored the site and damaged MS myself…played the same games as they did with API…..

    BUT not something that is my way………. no matter how angry I got at them…plus I’m an adult and know how to behave like one

  274. Troy Says:

    Hey Wiz,
    Guess what….Nobody here gives a rat’s ass about MS…You’re starting to sound like a broken record!!!!….There are more important things that we talk about here, like our Constitution!!!

    If you are so hung up on MS, then take a stroll on over there…Nobody here cares!!!!

  275. sliderblaze Says:

    an enormous belly flop

    wizcon

    i do recall the high fives and the jubilation of a whole lot of Sage’s peeps when api got shut down, and the utter disgust when it came back up.

  276. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Because I know there are a lot of ladies here, I want to post this. It’s totally unrelated to Obama or anything else on here– just for information for women:

    Sydney Ross Singer and Soma Grismaijer (husband-and-wife authors of Dressed to Kill, Avery Press, 1995) have discovered a possible trigger for breast cancer in interviews of 4,730 women in five major US cities, conducted between 1991 and 1993. They found that:
    Women who wore their bras for 24 hours per day had a 3 out of 4 chance of developing breast cancer (their study included 2056 subjects for the cancer group and 2674 for the standard group).
    Women who wore bras more than 12 hour per day but not to bed had a 1 out of 7 risk.
    Women who wore their bras less than 12 hours per day had a 1 out of 152 risk.
    Women who wore bras rarely or never had a 1 out of 168 chance of getting breast cancer.
    The World Health Organization calls chemical toxins the primary cause of cancer. Poisons accumulating in breast tissue are normally flushed by clear lymph fluid into large clusters of lymph nodes nestling in the armpits and upper chest. Because lymphatic vessels are very thin, they are extremely sensitive to pressure and are easily compressed. Chronic minimal pressure on the breasts can cause lymph valves and vessels to close.

    A look at the breast cancer rate in countries where bra-wearing is not the norm shows a very low incidence of breast cancer. Japanese women living in Japan, where bra-wearing is uncommon, have a very low incidence of breast cancer; however in second generation Japanese-American women, the breast cancer rate sky-rockets to match that of the Western world.

    The overall increase found between 24-hour wearing and not wearing at all was 125-fold.

  277. Rob Says:

    Wizcon, I’m new to the blog scene – that may make me a bit wet behind the ears with regard to sources. Who, what is the selected source for any given article? One may have a “source” but that doesn’t mean the source isn’t biased or even downright wrong. Sounds a lot like the expert witness… the kind each party in a court of law calls to agree with whatever view point they are trying to make. Just because a story is sourced doesn’t make a story true.

  278. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    looking at the over the shouler boulder holder laying on the bed…..

    Patty

    I’m a let freedom ring kinda girl…..at least when I am at home 🙂

  279. sliderblaze Says:

    JAC’s goes commando

  280. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Rob
    exactly!

    we examine the info the best we can,…. use our gut and the source it came from to give it credibility or not….
    not everything is black and white……… life is mostly many shades of grey

  281. sliderblaze Says:

    Thats true rob, one could source this case (leos) by the msm postings to back up ones accertions that the cases are unwarranted and frivalous. Only to find that they were filled with half truths and blantent false hoods.

  282. indy500 Says:

    Wizcon Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 8:13 pm:
    ______________________________

    Dude, I’m married with kids. I constantly deal with opinions that are different than me. In fact, when Im at work every opinion I deal with is different than mine. You need to try a different route with me bridge troll. Flash of anger – Dude, a flash of anger is what I deal with every night on the job. Wizbanger, I make a living dealing with dudes like you every night. You pay my salary and I thank you. I do go to FreeReper and I know you as well as you know me. You’re out of your element bridge troll. Hope and change is what you got. But wait until the court of the land gets a hold of your phony BS. Your hope and change will end up like your master – exposed as a phake.

    Wiz – my phony and phake little brother, please see the light so you’re not one of the rioters that tears up my city because your false messiah has lied to you.

  283. Wizcon Says:

    Have no intention of posting regularly. As I said in my first post, I come to catch up on the Supreme court issues. It is not my intention to take you away from your main subject. I figured it was a slow day since the court is considering things today.
    I strongly disagree with your take on Sage as a person and your take on her site. The old site is still up I believe and Cindy has, hopefully all the comments from the point where she took exception to the MS site. Maybe she can share with you. Its all out there.
    Excuse me for disagreeing with you on this matter. Hope you get over it.

  284. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    cnn has a spot….. wasn’t 100% and you could see the slant…… but have to give them credit for at least putting something out there that wasn’t just making a complete joke out of the citizen issue………

    http://
    us.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/12/05/arena.obama.citizenship.cnn

  285. hockeyfan530 Says:

    I have looked at hundreds of articles about this case today and only a handful actually had the facts right. Most of the reports don’t understand this is not about the BC as much as it’s about the citizenship! It’s crazy. how can these people be reporters? WOW

    If they would report on the issue of bambam’s dual citizenship the bambamonites would be shaking in their boots once the finally discovered that bambam was born with dual citizenship….Good morning bambamonites how was your little nap!? JACK @$$! LOL

  286. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    I prefer the African/Indian way–nothing to cause binding– that’s all I can say here, since some know my “true” identity! :0) (oo)

  287. Rob Says:

    No disrespect intended, but it sounds like this Sage thing is yesterday’s news. Hope you can get over that. 🙂

  288. Wizcon Says:

    Wizbanger, I make a living dealing with dudes like you every night. You pay my salary and I thank you. I do go to FreeReper and I know you as well as you know me. You’re out of your element bridge troll. Hope and change is what you got. But wait until the court of the land gets a hold of your phony BS. Your hope and change will end up like your master – exposed as a phake.

    Wiz – my phony and phake little brother, please see the light so you’re not one of the rioters that tears up my city because your false messiah has lied to you.

    Is that yet another blog? And I supposedly post there? googled it and found nothting. I post only under Wizcon

  289. hockeyfan530 Says:

    OK, I’m going to have to drive to Washington and talk to Clarence personally….I can’t wait any longer and certainly not until monday! Be back in…oh, probably 20 hour drive each way, plus potty breaks. Probably should stop for a beer at a bar in each state….about 48 hours. Wish me luck

  290. Troy Says:

    Ok. now they want to start putting people in jail for unflattering online remarks.

    gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/12/05/prison-for-unflattering-online-comments/

    Earlier I said Rosie O’ was a fat, loud mouthed Wilderbeast.
    I will take this opportunity to retract that statement….I don’t want to go to jail!!!

    So if Rosie O’ is watching, my sincerest apologies…Your not a Wilderbeasst….Your a freakin Hogzilla!!!

  291. hockeyfan530 Says:

    troy, LOL

    she’s just a loud mouth and has the sense of a wet noodle

  292. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Sage Says:
    December 5th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
    I just want to get something off my chest here….it’s a real shame that people jumped to the conclusion that I wasn’t going to allow their comments to post just because I slept in this morning. I’ve been running on 5 hours sleep a night and I was tired.

    I have no beef with Rosetta…I even banned the use of her name here to cut down on the possibility of people slamming her, but evidently a couple of her readers have nothing better to do than slam me. That’s fine. I’ve been called worse by better and I don’t read her blog.

    Everybody goes into moderation here until their first post is approved. That’s to protect me from people coming here and making claims like the one made on my blog about crashing Sammy’s site….something people seem to think I had some control over. The fact the person who did that was taken to task for it and banned from my blog seems to part their hair as it goes over their heads.

    So, if having your posts go into moderation until I approve the first comment pisses you off just remember I got burned when I didn’t do that.

    The only thing I had to do with Sammy’s site getting shut down by WordPress is reporting to them when he posted private information about people…and I would do that again. When anyone comments on a blog they are entitled to privacy of their ISP and Email address. To post that information is not only a violation of WordPress Terms of Service it is a complete violation against the ethics of any blogger, and I believe it is against the law. When a blogger is allowed to get by with that it reflects poorly on everyone who has a blog.

    When WordPress didn’t take that seriously except to continually warn Sammy not to do it any more, I also reported his against the TOS ads. I do not have the inclination, time, energy or know how to hack or crash someone’s blog. I’m not in high school….I don’t work that way. Every thing I have had to say about Sammy has been done in the open. Everything I did, like reporting him to WordPress WAS DONE IN THE OPEN.

    I may not like some of the comments posted here and I may even delete them but I DO NOT post the personal information of the person who made the comment. ANY BLOGGER I see doing that I will report to their Internet Service Provider
    _______________

    She only got ticked because it was her people that got busted and API wrongly posted their IP when they were being rude and spamming the site.

    I still think it was funny while that whole things was goin on…that posts about urgent emails messages were flying left and right….
    So end of subject……. ick……. that whole discussion makes me ill

  293. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    So Wizcon, are you a farmer? I see your little Avatar. My grandson loves everything that is John Deere or JD Greene!

  294. Wizcon Says:

    Rob Says:

    December 5, 2008 at 8:45 pm
    No disrespect intended, but it sounds like this Sage thing is yesterday’s news. Hope you can get over that.

    Had no intention of it going this long. Just wanted to point out a few things because no one else did. That seemd to be a bugle call to attack. By the way I am femaile and not “Wizbanger”. The only other name I posted under was Garthy1 on API chat and got booted for asking a question about copy/pasting articles to Sammy. Seems to be a permanent ban.

    Rossetta, thank you for your warm wlecome. I will let you get back to your main subject

  295. ladyliberty Says:

    Troy – LOL

    I am so surprised that the women that supported Hillary and saw how she was treated were the first ones to jump all over Palin’s case. It seems to me that they would have seen how sexist the treatment is.

    I don’t classify Rosie as a woman.

  296. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    cnn has a spot….. wasn’t 100% and you could see the slant…… but have to give them credit for at least putting something out there that wasn’t just making a complete joke out of the citizen issue………

    us.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/12/05/arena.obama.citizenship.cnn

  297. Wizcon Says:

    No but I live in Wisconsin. That sign is posted down the road on what we call the double bubble. 2 quick steep hills. Sometimes theres a tractor right over the top.

  298. Rob Says:

    “but evidently a couple of her readers have nothing better to do than slam me.”

    Hmmm… she didn’t name her “source”.

  299. indy500 Says:

    Wizcon Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 8:43 pm:
    _________________________________
    Dude I appoligize if you are in fact only here to get info. on court cases. However, when you continue to bring up Cindy, I take exception to your BS because by bringing her up every time you come here, I put you under the bridge along with the rest of the MS a-holes that go on blogs with the intent of chaos and derision, with the intent of going back to the hag and bragging about your fidelity.

    If I’m wrong, I appoligize. But I have a strong feeling I have met you before and I don’t like what I see.

  300. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Troy

    she wasn’t modern women enough for them

  301. Foxtrot Says:

    So . . . I leave for a bit and all he$$ breaks loose! Do I have to blow the whistle now and end recess early? Come on gang, let’g be nice. Wizcon, clearly we got off on the wrong foot with you. I am the token Dem here and was an avid Hillary supporter. I have been on this site for a while, and have felt love, respect and kindness. That is not to say we don’t have differing opinions, because we do. However, we are all unified as Patriots and people who love our country, as I am sure you do. You obviously come here because you like some of what is said. I think the Rosetta Gang takes that as a compliment. As long as everyone is civil, the dialogue is stupendous!

  302. Foxtrot Says:

    Oh, p.s. – we love our Cindy (as you can tell)!

  303. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Well, as long as you come in peace and good will —and occasionally bring snacks, I for one, welcome you here. You can come hang out–

    There really isn’t a lot of talk about other sites here, we are usually to busy admiring MY tin hat for anyone to pay attention to anyone else!

    Of course, if you want the intelligent stuff you will have to talk to Troy (but he has been know to get a leetle bit peeved when someone refers to BO as the PE!) or you will have to talk to TM, or FOXY, or HF– and if you need a defender, that would be Indy–

    I’m the ditzy one…

    Course JAC is the wild one—:)

    Oh, there’s Ksinde– she’s the activist today–

    and Al, he’s the token bot here– but he’s really good at it–

  304. Foxtrot Says:

    Patty – LOL!

  305. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    indy
    _______

    they thought I was part of the “inner circle” over at API at one time….wasn’t so, but that is what they thought….. I have kinda been on a hit list ever since.

    I did the same thing there as I do here….. talk about the issues.. and I jumped on the ones spamming and disrupting the site

  306. sliderblaze Says:

    Thats why Fox supports hillary, she’s smoking something, maybe if it was stronger, you’d support Obama. lol

    well i guess in that case my theory is flawed, i’m the token republican and supported McCain (and yes, it took some stronger Sh!t to support him) i was a Romney Guy.

  307. sliderblaze Says:

    Yes, cindy was suspect here at first but, she’s more than earned her stripes

  308. Foxtrot Says:

    Slider- what do you mean “she’s smoking something”? I bet you would rather have Hillary than Obama? Hillary would have been able to hit the ground running and get us out of this horrible mess we are in. She is off the charts brilliant, already is respected around the world, and would have brought prosperity back to the U.S. Don’t diss my Hills!

  309. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Foxy

    awwwwwwwww I feel special

    do I get a new hat ?……. huh huh …. 🙂

  310. Wizcon Says:

    I have a degree that emphazizes research methods. Most of what I do research online is social issues. For example, my last one was to survey a community their potential fellings about a juvenile social center before bringing it to referendum. I do that for no pay. But that is not really what I do for a living. That is why I like MS. The meticulous check and recheck. Now I post here and at MS. The only other sites I post at are private professional forums and one public forum. Those are finance real estate dialogs. Real exciting stuff like input on the new proposed RESPA reform and Financial disclosures
    And once again, I am not a “Dude”

  311. Foxtrot Says:

    Slider, what do you mean “cindy was suspect here at first”? What the heck! Who has your underwear in a bunch today? LOL!

  312. indy500 Says:

    Wizcon Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 8:47 pm:
    ________________________________
    Dude, this is funny! I made that post but your name and little tractor avatar is how it came out. I’ll bet that will play big on MS! One for you my little yapping buddy. Pat on the head for you. lol.

  313. Foxtrot Says:

    Yes, JAC, it is waiting for you in the aluminum foil aisle at Baesler’s! hehe.

  314. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Actually, Slider, I’m the one with “stripes”– hee hee..

    Slider, I supported McCain too. I have no problem admitting that. Was he my first choice before the final showdown? No. But in my book, JM is a hero. Anyone who suffered what this man did for our country and kept on giving in the Senate, who fought PB spending–he gets a salute!

  315. Foxtrot Says:

    Indy, be nice! As Thumper said, “if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all.” LOL!

  316. Obama Researcher Says:

    I remember Justic Thomas confirmation hearings with all the shit hitting the fan. I must say that I have paid little attention to SC but I want to say that I am proud of Justice Thomas today. He has the correct view of supporting the Constitution. A good man. Thank You, Your Honor. Keep up the good work.

  317. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Fox

    yep I was……… not kidding ….. but there was alot of confusion going on at the time…. and there was a clone……. then didn’t know what I really said or that other person…… I would of considered someone suspect too.

    Ksinde was my savior…. she knew something personal about me to confirm who I was

  318. Foxtrot Says:

    Your “calling” sounds interesting Wizcon. I do alot of charity work as well.

  319. Foxtrot Says:

    Speaking of Ksinde . . . has anyone heard anything from her about the SCOTUS march/demonstration?

  320. sliderblaze Says:

    Fox, from the cloning incident, nobody knew who was who.

    Is hillary brillant, of course, would she be better than Obama, hell yes, better than Romney, HELL NO…..lol I felt we needed an economy guy and thats why i wanted to vote for him. I didnt get a chance cus mcstain was already chosen when he got to my state. I would like a longer primary myself so the latter states in the primaries have a say.

    I’ll take a repub over a dem anyday, except when i voted for Clinton in 96, i mean come on, bob dole?

  321. Wizcon Says:

    I am an independent. Trying to make up my mind when I saw the API thing. And thank you all. My daughter did bake chocolate chip cookies this morning- the only thing she doesn’t put some weird sauce on.

  322. Foxtrot Says:

    Gotcha Slider. Thanks to you and Cindy for clarifying what you meant about her being “suspect”.

  323. Obama Researcher Says:

    Well after Obama is declared not eligible. I will strongly support Hillary for President. She is definitely the best of the group and would have been President if Obama had not pushed her out.

    Hillary deserves to be President and she will make a great President. Exit polls show that she would have won by an even bigger margin then Obama.

  324. hockeyfan530 Says:

    I supported huckleberry first then to McCain. I agree hil would be much better than bambam…but so would my left shoe….so that’s not really much of an accomplishment to be better than bambam. McCain kind of wimped out when he decided not to go after wright. He should have gone after EVERY one of bambam’s buddies. The problem with McCain bringing up Ayers and not the others is McCain needed to show the pattern of bambam’s choice of friends.

  325. Foxtrot Says:

    So, is there any news on the MSM today about SCOTUS or was it all about OJ and his conviction?

  326. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    weird sauce??,……. the hubby puts ketchup or apple sauce on everything…
    even ketchup on mashed potatoes …… ick…… but I love him ..I just don’t watch him eat………. lol

  327. Foxtrot Says:

    Ksinde?!?!?!? Come out, come out, wherever you are! We want to know what happened at the march!

  328. Foxtrot Says:

    In Minnesota they put ketchup on everything! Even eggs! YUCK!

  329. sliderblaze Says:

    Obama looks tired, maybe he bit off more than he could chew after looking at the intel briefing the real president gets, not tho one who prances around saying, in essance, this job aint that hard, Bush is just a moron.

    Maybe now he’s thinking, Damn, how in the Hell did we not get attacked all these years……i think i may be a feat that he’s thinking he cant accomplish?

  330. Foxtrot Says:

    I am going to troll around websites to see if there is any news on SCOTUS! Be back in a minute!

  331. sliderblaze Says:

    honey mustard and eggs around here

  332. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    ketchup on scambled eggs once in awhile is Ok…… but I don’t do ketchup or mustard at all as a rule……… mayo kinda girl…… even one French fries

  333. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    I gotta go work– Indy, play nice– did you ever get any sleep? Take a little rest… drink some of Jac’s hot choc. with little mellows..

    JAC, don’t go for the tinfoil! It’s hot and messy, and it’s not near as pretty. Try titanium instead– comes in colors, and there are bells and whistles too– hmmm might just be inside my head!

    Wiz– cheers to you–

    Al–hope your little calf found it’s way back to the barn.. kind of late in the season to be calving– didn’ you warn the mother that calves come in the spring? *wink*wink*

    Foxy just keep saying, “Hillary is on the hill, Hillary is on the hill”

    If TM gets back maybe she’ll have some words of wisdom for all of us–and candy!

    Keeping my fingers crossed and prayers said that we will have some good news–that peace will prevail and that Rose will release that tape of Obama–hee hee..jk!

  334. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    speaking of food…… lol….. I need to whip up a batch of peanut butter fudge for the meeting tonight

  335. Wizcon Says:

    Foxtrot Says:

    December 5, 2008 at 9:13 pm
    Your “calling” sounds interesting Wizcon. I do alot of charity work as well.

    Interesting thing about that last project. The schoolds here already have a community service requirement in HS and they have to write a paper on it as a senior project. I utilized some High school kids and one teacher as well as family members of the police dept for door to door polling (we have those “do not call’ lists here). The kids got the basics of research methods utilizing simple programs at the university. A lot of discussions. I was a bloddy teacher for awhile but it was a rewarding experienc. Unfortuneaelty the village is having enough trouble with the budget. The idea is shelved for not. I set one kid up to observe recycling habits at the garbage collection center to try to determine some problems the natives are having with recycling. He is a special ed kid. he’s going to give his report orally. I am his assistant.

  336. indy500 Says:

    Wizcon Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 9:08 pm:
    ——————————————–
    Dude, we’re like total opposites. I send them to juvy and you get them. I respect the social worker that tries to reform. Honestly, I do respect the position of Social Worker. It’s only a small percentage of the time that they can help, but when it works, it’s a joyous thing. Maybe there is hope for you when it comes to the MS BS.

  337. sliderblaze Says:

    Mayo….nooooo, my ex used to do that, get a drinking cup full of it and dip her fries in it…..i hate mayo…

  338. amy Says:

    ok..been reading the comments here about MS putting my comments in moderation there.. I understand now that it was because she was away from the site and I never commented there before.. I will have to apologise to her and also to everyone here for complaining about my comments being in moderation. I should have had more patience, and the only excuse was that I was on my lunch break and had to get back to work..I have gone over there from time to time, because I am NOSY.. I have not been there when anything looked negative.. I just checked there and saw where sage did respond to my comment.. I like the recipes she provides on there and copy them.. I am not a regular commentor anywhere but I love to read them when I have the time,, I have always trusted Rose, having first come across her at sinclair site.. Thats why most of my spare time, I lurk here.. This is the only site where I can get information that I can trust.. I am VERY interested in the lawsuits.

  339. Foxtrot Says:

    Great article! Use the normal h t t p: / / in front

    caffinequeen.wordpress.com/2008/12/05/more-flying-monkeys/

    Be back!

  340. ddlew Says:

    Someone that signs their posts Lawdog just posted on Schreiber’s site that Leo’s Cert was denied and that the order would be released on Monday without any comments from any of the Justices.

    I don’t know who this person is, so it may just be bogus info.

    He posted this info twice, a couple of hours apart.

  341. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    amy,

    most of this has been awhile back,….. sore feelings are still involved…. they were only brought out again because Jen from MS come over here the other day and was calling us bat sh!t crazy….. then ran back to her friends there bragging about what she did…. childish…..

  342. twinkler2008 Says:

    It’s 4:30 PM here in Philadelphia. I’m searching the web for information about the supremes. Has anyone heard anything?

    Starr

  343. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    ddlew

    if that happens then the only thing that can be done is a military suit….
    I whole hearty think that should happen

  344. Foxtrot Says:

    I pray the comment I found on another blog is not true!

    Anonymous said…
    The Court denied the petition for a writ of certiorari today without dissent or comment. This effectively dismisses the case. The written order will come out on Monday.

    -Lawdawg

    December 5, 2008 12:43 PM

  345. sliderblaze Says:

    i hope it’s not true, however, with out comment will piss a lot of people off to no end….. seems to mean thats balless

  346. amy Says:

    Oh no!!!!!!

  347. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    if member of the military and former military files a suit.saying they would not follow a commander and chief that was not qualified to be president
    it would hold a LOT of weight

  348. hockeyfan530 Says:

    I’m not going to lie to ya folks, if this is denied my voting days are
    D-O-N-E! I figure why risk my life driving to the polls when the constitution no longer has meaning.

  349. amy Says:

    I thought it was Berg that filed for a writ of Certorian, not Donofrio??????

  350. hockeyfan530 Says:

    unless this is a leak or something from someone this would be all over the place already.

  351. indy500 Says:

    amy Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 9:23 pm:
    _________________________
    It’s Okay Amy! Really it’s no problem. It’s only when someone comes here and trashes then goes back and brags about what they have have done, when it becomes a problem. Recipes are nothing in the scheme of things. Most of the guys here would’nt even notice a stinking recipe. Now trolls are a different story. Our team of troll busters would identify and zap before you could settle in.

  352. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I think we all have been doing our moment of silent prayer

  353. amy Says:

    Oh, I just checked docket.. Donofrio did ask for a writ of certirain.. Darn it!!!!!

  354. Wizcon Says:

    indy500 Says:

    December 5, 2008 at 9:23 pm
    Wizcon Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 9:08 pm:
    ——————————————–
    Dude, we’re like total opposites. I send them to juvy and you get them. I respect the social worker that tries to reform. Honestly, I do respect the position of Social Worker. It’s only a small percentage of the time that they can help, but when it works, it’s a joyous thing. Maybe there is hope for you when it comes to the MS BS.

    The police chief thought it would be good to give them a gathering place off the street with interaction from adults and college kids. Have things to do, loud music etc. He lined up a closed bar with the juke and pooltables still in it but I view that with some trepidation as it has the atmostshpere of a bar. Like a training ground for future bar flys LOL. Smells like beer and cigarettes in there.
    I had a kid running with the wrong crowd for awhile and i arranged a trip up the secured elevator to the juvey jail for an interview with the scary looking huge man with the keys. he was actually pretty nice and it seemed to help.

  355. hockeyfan530 Says:

    only 15 to 20 people showed up for the demonstration

    chicagoist.com/2008/12/05/no_word_from_supreme_court_on_obama.php

  356. amy Says:

    I am so disappointed. Leo has worked so hard on this.

  357. Foxtrot Says:

    Okay, here is a link for you to access that will have each state’s Electors for the Electoral College. They meet on December 15th. Please, everyone, access it and write your electors. Spell out, in very clear terms, why they need to check to see if Obama is a natural born citizen!

  358. hockeyfan530 Says:

    I guess even if we have hard, irrefutable, evidence against bambam it won’t matter Huh? I weep for our nation if this is indeed true

  359. amy Says:

    I am going to jeffs site…

  360. Foxtrot Says:

    Oh no, Hockey Fan! Really? I am so bummed!

  361. hockeyfan530 Says:

    that tears it…i’m going to drink beer tonight!

  362. ddlew Says:

    I looked up “Lawdawg” and found a google blog.

    lawdawg.blogspot.com

    It’s an invitation only blog so this Lawdawg person may be legit.

    Hey. Even Leo admitted this was a long shot.

    Still holding out hope though.

  363. hockeyfan530 Says:

    fox,
    they only had 3 days notice right? Plus no HONEST media coverage of this at all. I guess we can’t expect too much. A lot of people that didn’t support bambam actually have jobs

  364. Troy Says:

    Foxtrot Says:

    December 5, 2008 at 9:32 pm
    I pray the comment I found on another blog is not true!

    Anonymous said…
    The Court denied the petition for a writ of certiorari today without dissent or comment. This effectively dismisses the case. The written order will come out on Monday.

    -Lawdawg

    December 5, 2008 12:43 PM
    ————————————————————
    This is exactly why, contrary to Leo’s beliefs, that there needed to be as many suits from as many different angles as possible….One of them will eventually be sucessful.

    and there is a military suit already in the process.

  365. Foxtrot Says:

    You have got to see this video! Put the h t t p: / / in front

    obambi.wordpress.com/2008/12/05/judas-calls-obama-an-immigrant/

  366. hockeyfan530 Says:

    oh dear heavens! What in the world is going on here!? Obama is an immigrant? Really? noooooo….he was born in Hawaii LOL

  367. hockeyfan530 Says:

    just a heads up gang.

    you don’t have to put the htt p : / / in front just copy and paste this

    obambi.wordpress.com/2008/12/05/judas-calls-obama-an-immigrant/

    into the address and away you go

  368. hockeyfan530 Says:

    and hit enter….forgot that part

    well, i’m going home for the day, talk to you folks later. Have a good one

  369. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    just wow…..

  370. indy500 Says:

    Wizcon Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 9:46 pm:
    ___________________________
    Dude, I’ve been that huge dude with keys. 99% of the time things were cool. I feel sorry for the 1% though. I respect the job of a social worker. If that is indeed what you do – You have my respect.

    However, I don’t tolerate dissing my partners here. Especially if they run to the sage and report their follies on another site. I’ll respect you as long as you respect me.

  371. Foxtrot Says:

    good post and photo from the march today. Place the normal h t t p: / / w w w. in front

    swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/12/supreme_court_mum_on_obamabirt.html

  372. Ksinde. Says:

    Hi all just got back from DC…No a lot of people there, what a shame!

  373. Ksinde. Says:

    I saw the lawdag post above, hope it is not true. But there very well could be a leak from a clerk.

  374. ddlew Says:

    Well the SCOTUS BLOG is only reporting on two cases. Nothing on Donofrio yet.

  375. Ksinde. Says:

    I just don’t see the harm in hearing the case… If it is true I wonder if you can find out who voted for it and against it. i would be curious about that.

  376. Ksinde. Says:

    dd, what do you mean the SCOTUS blog?

  377. Foxtrot Says:

    Ksinde, how many people did show up?

  378. Wizcon Says:

    indy500 Says:

    December 5, 2008 at 10:06 pm
    Wizcon Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 9:46 pm:
    ___________________________
    Dude, I’ve been that huge dude with keys. 99% of the time things were cool. I feel sorry for the 1% though. I respect the job of a social worker. If that is indeed what you do – You have my respect.

    However, I don’t tolerate dissing my partners here. Especially if they run to the sage and report their follies on another site. I’ll respect you as long as you respect me.

    Actually I was just over there at MS. Cindy can go over there and in the right hand side email sage directly. Sage has the IP and email of the clone if cindy wants to “connect the dots”.
    I was trying to figure out how to alert cindy to this privately thru rosetta but couldn’t see an email for her.
    I was not trying to diss Cindy beleive it or not. Just trying to point out that things seemed out of character for sage here. Cindy was pretty vocal about it. Apparently there is some explanation to it but it escaped me with the nature of the comments. Cindy explained it was because of the cloning which did not originate on Sage. It seems to have follwed Cindy to Sage.

  379. Ksinde. Says:

    25-30 people maybe. We were on one side then there was about 10 people off to the other side in a circle singing peace songs. Then after a bit they put tape over their mouths that had “life” written on it.

  380. ddlew Says:

    Only two cases were granted Writ of Cert today. Leo’s case was not one of them.

  381. Foxtrot Says:

    Oh crap.

  382. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    got to go for awhile…… will try to pop in before my meeting…. other wise I will be here later tonight

  383. Ksinde. Says:

    dd, sry for my ignorance…. so Writ of Cert means the cases the Justices agree to hear after todays confrence? If so, the ones posted were from todays confrence?

  384. gatorsmom Says:

    hockeyfan530 Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 9:47 pm

    only 15 to 20 people showed up for the demonstration

    chicagoist.com/2008/12/05/no_word_from_supreme_court_on_obama.php
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I see you made it back safe too ksinde. C’mon, I think there were at least a few more than 20 of us though!! Like 24?!? Anyways, my .15 seconds of fame. I’m the little tiny head with sunglasses in the photo on the article above. Yay me.

    I am very disheartened that more people didn’t show. A combination of not much notice and not important enough to enough people, I guess. Am I glad I went? Absolutely. Will I be as quick to take part in something like this in the future? Maybe not so much.

  385. Ksinde. Says:

    ttyl JAC…. Was trying to catch up, but couldn’t follow it…did someone clone JAC over at MS?

  386. rosettasister Says:

    Obama Researcher Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 9:11 pm

    Obama Researcher Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 9:16 pm

    ————————

    Welcome, Obama Researcher!

    You should be able to post at will now.

    Rosetta

  387. Ksinde. Says:

    Gaor, so glad you made it home safe. Did u see the post above from DD and also the one that Fox posted about the lawdog blog saying a no go for Leo?

  388. Ksinde. Says:

    ok 24 showeded ip…lol

  389. ddlew Says:

    http//www scotusblog.com/wp/todays-orders-12508/#more-8366

  390. gatorsmom Says:

    Ksinde, yeah I saw. I figured lawdawg was wishful thinking. don’t know anything about the SCOTUS blog. I’m sure we’ll find out eventually. I’ll wait to hear it from Leo on his site or see some verifiable proof.

  391. Ksinde. Says:

    ty DD

  392. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Welcome back Ksinde! I’ve been over at Political machine “educating” the poor and the stupid masses (poor in the sense that they ain’t go no sense). People are ignorant! The only thing they know to say is “race”– bet their next most used word is “n—-r” cause it’s probably the only two words they have to deal with people different than them! I told one of them I’m more black than Obama so she could just put her race card away! Oh, I borrowed an educated quote from someone here…I told them it was borrowed, but didn’t name names– just called you a “friend”!

    Sorry, let me put my titanium hat back on– breath in, breath out!

  393. gatorsmom Says:

    thanks ddlew.

  394. gatorsmom Says:

    Oh great, I think *this* is the guy I spoke to today:

    slate.com/id/2206033/

    He said he had already written a “skeptical” piece on this issue and this article is from yesterday. I’ve no doubt that he’ll take the small number that showed for the sit-in/rally today and ridicule it. Joy.

  395. Wizcon Says:

    Picture of the pprotest
    dcist.com/2008/12/05/obama_birth_certificate_protest.php

  396. Wizcon Says:

    Add the Http thing

  397. Ksinde. Says:

    Hi Pep..

    Political Pastor overat Plains said not to look too much into SCOTUS BLOG…we will probally ahve to wait until monday…not sure how much he knows how the system works???

  398. gatorsmom Says:

    Wizcon, this one actually quoted me in the article. Of course, I said more than that, but at least what he chose to print is accurate. 🙂 And that is the same author as the article from Slate that I linked to above. The tone of this article is much toned down. Maybe we made him take it a tad more seriously than just the BC?! Dare I hope?

  399. Ksinde. Says:

    Gator, my boys really thought you & B were great! They asked when we were going to get together again…lol…

  400. Ksinde. Says:

    ooppss…hit submit too fast>>> and so did I ofcourse 😉

  401. gatorsmom Says:

    Ksinde, out of all this I’m very glad to have met you and your boys. B thought you were all cool too. hey, you never know, we head up I-95 quite a bit. 🙂

  402. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    well there is the press conference Monday… wonder if the press will actually show….or report it accurately

    just peeking for a few minutes…. need to leave in a few

  403. Ksinde. Says:

    lol… hey you never know, if this goes to arguements we could be back up there!

  404. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Ksinde

    btw…… since you weren’t here to police me.. I drooled quite freely over the keyboard 🙂

  405. indy500 Says:

    Ksinde. Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 10:27 pm
    ___________________________________
    Okay it’s confirmed. She made it without ending up in the pacific ocean. Thank Goodness for our woman that made it there and back. Someone- probably Troy or another un-named soul was thinking you would end up on the Pacific Coast on the coast of Washington. We’re just happy you made it back. Welcome Back to Our Patriot.

  406. Ksinde. Says:

    Cindy, what press confrence?

  407. Ksinde. Says:

    lol…i knew it cindy…see, can’t even go out and enjoy myself without you mis behaving!!! lol

  408. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    We the people over the ad in the Chicago tribune
    know it’s supposed to happen….. just hoping it isn’t a dud

  409. Ksinde. Says:

    Indy…don’t even get me going!!! lol I walked 2 miles to get to SCOTUS that should have only taken 3/4 a mile to get to…. Also, I bought a GPS because I am horrible with unknown places, and still got off track…Can’t count the number of times GPS said “Recalculating Route”…lol

  410. Ksinde. Says:

    Got ya JAC

  411. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    OK I’m gone for good this time–see you all on the flip side– hopefully sometime this week-end. If not, I’ll see you Monday. Have a great week-end.

    L8r

  412. jjones35811 Says:

    OK,
    I just got home from work… any news from SCOTUS?

  413. hockeyfan530 Says:

    i’m home now what did i miss?

  414. jjones35811 Says:

    hey !
    I asked first ! 😛

  415. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    scroll up ……

    looks like they won’t be hearing the case…….. but it’s not 100% certain… but it doesn’t look good

  416. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Ksinde

    I have 3 friends that could get lost in a wet paper sack with a GPS, a compass and a map………. lol…. love them to death …. but they can be funnier than cartoons when we are waiting on them to arrive somewhere

  417. Ksinde. Says:

    Someone on Plains said that CNN reported on leo’s case and said it was forwarded until monday???? I guess we will have to wait for an update from Leo or someone at plains tonight…too many conflicted reports. I believe Plains goes live at 8 cst

  418. Ksinde. Says:

    lmao JJ

  419. jjones35811 Says:

    Cindy,
    If your refferring to the lawdog post , I saw that at americasright.com earlier… I’m pretty sure it’s fake since I saw it elsewhere ( i forget where) by the same person before 8am CT

  420. Ksinde. Says:

    JAC…add me…that makes 4 friends you have then…lol…just horrible…if i give you directions, just reverse them and go opposite way, i go against my gutt if i am not sure where i am…lol

  421. Ksinde. Says:

    agree JJ, I won’t believe anything until I hear from Leo’s mouth or on actual SCOTUS docket

  422. hockeyfan530 Says:

    I’m going to call the RNC and get my name off their list. I’m going to tell them that the government let the nation down. Throughout this entire election and today, if indeed they are not going to hear the case. The very thing that makes this country great is the constitution and it is being ignored. IF, the SC actually comes out and says we believe that being a dual citizen does not make one a natural born citizen. I’ll reconsider. I disagree with it that decision but at least they looked at it. But if they say nothing or anything about standing I am D-O-N-E. I’ll just mind my own business and pay my taxes but the American flag that I always fly….GONE.

  423. jjones35811 Says:

    Ksinde,
    Yeah, I saw that early this morning and thought it was a little weird, then I saw it on jeff’s blog and figured it was some moron just trying to cause confusion.
    How was DC?

  424. Ksinde. Says:

    Ed said he talked to Leo an hour ago, that all reports are just guesses, no one knows??? i hope that is true

  425. jjones35811 Says:

    HF,
    you can always fly it like I do….upsidedown

  426. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I heard that 60,000 some thousand letter made it there from the wnd fedex campaign alone….

  427. indy500 Says:

    Our woman made it from there and back. Even with a GPS she still managed to make it to the SC. Freakin kickass Ksinde.!!! Where were you MS trolls??? Probably in front of the computer wraped in a warm blankey spamming who knows what. Made it to Washington, DC on the steps of the SC. Ksinde., freakin bump, ping and welcome home!!! WE MADE IT TO THE SC!!! Anyone form MS make it??? – Didn’t think so idiots! Ksinde. freakin rocks!!!

  428. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    let me try to find that link again

  429. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    www

    worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=82717

    about the letters just from wnd

  430. jjones35811 Says:

    Cindy,
    I can just see it now…9 Supreme court justices sitting at their bench opening those damned fedex envelopes all week-end long cursing the name of Obama… 🙂

  431. Ksinde. Says:

    I am glad i went JJ. I got to meet Gator and after we stood out front for a bit, we got to go into SCOTUS to look around. Then we went across the street to the Capitol building and took a tour. First time I did that. It was really neat!

  432. rosettasister Says:

    I’m sorry, I don’t have any updates.

    But I did see that Media Matters is complaining about Washington Times coverage.

    http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/dec/05/court-to-weigh-question-about-obama-citizenship/

    EXCERPT

    Mr. Obama tried to resolve questions over his citizenship during his campaign by circulating a copy of a “Certification of Live Birth” from the state of Hawaii showing he was born Aug. 4, 1961, in Honolulu.

    “It’s clearly been altered,” said Pennsylvania attorney Philip J. Berg in published ads that he sponsored nationwide, including in The Washington Times. He filed one of the lawsuits to block Mr. Obama’s presidency.

    Mr. Berg claims there is a tape recording from Mr. Obama’s paternal grandmother in Kenya saying she attended the birth of her grandson in Mombasa.

    Mr. Berg also says Mr. Obama later enrolled as a student at an Indonesian school at a time only Indonesians could attend it. Mr. Obama’s stepfather was Indonesian.

    In October, a federal judge dismissed Mr. Berg’s lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court in Philadelphia, saying Mr. Berg lacked standing.

    http://mediamatters.org/items/200812050010?f=h_latest

    Summary:

    The Washington Times uncritically reported a claim by Pennsylvania attorney Philip J. Berg, as stated in an ad Berg placed in the newspaper, that the birth certificate released by Barack Obama’s campaign has “clearly been altered.”

    The Times did not note that FactCheck.org reported that it has “seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate,” concluding that it “meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship,” nor did it note a statement by Health Department director Chiyome Fukino that “the Hawai’i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.”

  433. gatorsmom Says:

    Well, off to my meeting. Don’t think I’ll be back by 9pm EST, so ksinde, shoot me an email if you listen to plains and hear anything new. Thanks!

  434. Ksinde. Says:

    Indy…lmao…Don’t forget Gator, I met her there!

  435. Ksinde. Says:

    Will do Gator!

  436. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    gotta go c u guys later

  437. jjones35811 Says:

    Ksinde,
    I love DC, haven’t been there in years even though I was born there. Still a Redskins fan to this day 🙂

  438. Ksinde. Says:

    TC JAC

  439. hockeyfan530 Says:

    hey, this beer taste great! Finally, something went right today

  440. Ksinde. Says:

    JJ, yes it was so cool… So much history! I wish i had more time and it was sooo cold. When it gets warmer, I want to go back and do it all.

    Redskins…pppuuhh.. Philadelphia Eagles all the way baby…lol 😉

  441. Ksinde. Says:

    Hockey…lol… good and kick your feet up too!

    I think Pastor manning is going to be on Plains at 7 est if amyone is interested. I think he is great! Says it how it is for sure.

  442. rosettasister Says:

    I believe someone already posted this, but here it is anyway:

    From Jeff Schreiber’s Blog:

    http://www.americasright.com/2008/12/nine-justices-four-needed-one.html

    UPDATE, 5:45pm:

    Several people are saying that, because Donofrio’s case was not among the release showing two cases for which certiorari were granted, his stay-as-petition-for-cert was denied. Even the law blog at The Wall Street Journal is reporting as such. While I cannot say whether or not it was denied, as much as I think it probably was, nothing I have seen so far–including the order list distributed today–suggests 100 percent that it was either granted or denied.

    Perhaps I’m missing something, but I cannot find anything that conclusively points toward denial. I’m guessing that, absent evidence to the contrary, people are simply taking sides according to the odds.

    Absent another miscellaneous order showing that the Justices granted Donofrio’s petition, not likely to come at this hour, we’ll just have to wait until Monday or Tuesday for the full list of orders.

    Monday, remember, is the press conference at the National Press Club. I may try to go, should I be able to shuffle some work around and decide to petition the Court for a stay with regard to studying for exams. We’ll see.

    Furthermore, I just saw Wolf Blitzer on CNN do a three- or four-minute segment on Donofrio’s case. Of course, it was painted as you would expect it to be but, at this point, any focus on the constitutional aspects of this issue is good. The only thing, however, is that I wish that the underlying motivation behind these legal actions would not necessarily be depicted as so much anti-Obama as pro-Constitution.

  443. jjones35811 Says:

    HF…. got my beer too…. ahhh… beeerrr

  444. ddlew Says:

    Jeff Schreiber updated his blog. He’s basically saying that he’s not going to believe it till he sees the actual release of the order on Monday.

  445. rosettasister Says:

    ddlew Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 11:39 pm

    Jeff Schreiber updated his blog. He’s basically saying that he’s not going to believe it till he sees the actual release of the order on Monday.

    —————–

    Thanks for the clarification, ddlew.

  446. rosettasister Says:

    “Supreme Court Silent on Obama Birth Certificate Lawsuit”

    http://chicagoist.com/2008/12/05/no_word_from_supreme_court_on_obama.php

    The Supreme Court made no announcement today whether or not it will hear Donofrio v. Wells, the lawsuit challenging the election based on Barack Obama’s release – or alleged lack thereof – of his official birth certificate and his citizenship status.

    (The court did decide to hear two cases, one of which is the case of Ali Saleh Kahlah al-Marri, an Al Qaeda combatant seized on American soil.)

    Of course, there’s no guarantee the Court will ever actually issue any statement on the Obama case since it was simply petitioned to the court and, along with hundreds of other cases, could be dismissed without any comment at all.

    But as Frank James, over at The Swamp, says, “the lack of an announcement doesn’t mean the court definitely won’t hear Donofrio.”

    So either we will or we won’t. Hmm.

    Meanwhile, our comrades at our sister site DCist scoped out a protest held by supporters of the Donofrio cause at the Supreme Court this morning led by Roger Bredow, who claims Obama has duel citizenship.

    The Supreme Court will announce whether it will actually consider the Obama lawsuit as early as today and as late as Monday. If (as expected) the Court tosses the suit, Bredow will start challenging Obama’s legitimacy based on “foreign money that went into his campaign.” Other protestors said they’d start contacting members of the Electoral College. Steve Brindle, who drove down from Pennsylvania, said he’d called his senators yesterday.

    “There aren’t a lot of people out here today,” said Brindle. “There are a lot of people talking about this back home. Really, everyone’s asking questions.”

    Of course, only 15 to 20 people showed so…yeah.

    Either way, nothing will ever outweigh the rage we felt this morning when we read that Obama has allegedly chosen a Zune over an iPod. We’re whipping up a petition as we speak and expect a protest very, very soon.

  447. Ksinde. Says:

    lol…Ed just said that he is suppose to get a fedex next week of BO’s vaulted COLB…lol… God love him but he is gullable i think. It sounds like obots call him and say they are insiders (like the early a.m. call with insider info) just to throw him off or make him look like a dumby tin foil hat wearer. He needs to keep it to himself until he has something in his hands!

  448. indy500 Says:

    Ksinde. and gatorsmom freakin ROCKS!!! Take that you freaken haters of freedom and free speach! Spam this you lame piece of sh-t’s. We had 2 at the vigil for Constitunal Freedom Rally!!! That’s 2 more lovers of freedom than you bastards could ever muster up!!!

  449. IODINE Says:

    peppermintpatty777
    Did you by chance ever call the Miami Marine operator that name JOLLY ROGER sounds sooooo famular.

  450. jrinNC Says:

    Found this article on Israeli Insider which was dated Aug 05 – First time I have heard this info – “Claim: Obama’s “birth certificate” forged with sister Maya’s original”

    web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/13040.htm

  451. jjones35811 Says:

    Jr,
    That’s been around for a while. I’m not 100% sure on this story. I think that there was some infighting going on between Polaric and Techdude, the guy who did the “other” analysis. Apparently Polarick sucessfully debunked techdude.

  452. Ksinde. Says:

    you are killing me Indy…lmao…Between you and Foxy, my sides hurt

  453. Ksinde. Says:

    brb

  454. jrinNC Says:

    Oh, OK jj – Guess I must have missed that somewhere along the line. I occasionally go to Israeli Insider just to see what they have posted. I just hope and pray someone gets through to those who have the authority to do something, since WE THE PEOPLE don’t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  455. rosettasister Says:

    IODINE Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 11:48 pm

    peppermintpatty777

    Did you by chance ever call the Miami Marine operator that name JOLLY ROGER sounds sooooo famular.

    ——————-

    Iodine, Patty.

    I haven’t the faintest idea what this means!

    Hope it’s okay.

    Rosetta

  456. jjones35811 Says:

    JR,
    yeah, I think Techdude was brushed aside rather effectively, not much discussion about him. So where in NC are you?

  457. jrinNC Says:

    I live about 12 miles off the Pamlico Sound

  458. sdee Says:

    Leo post new entry on his blog

  459. jjones35811 Says:

    JR,
    My NC geography is rusty so I’m not sure where that is… I lived in the lovely town of Jacksonville for a year 😛 while I was stationed at LeJuene

  460. jrinNC Says:

    Well the Pamlico Sound is the big body of water that separate the mainland from the outer banks. I live about 45 mins from Jacksonville.

  461. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Hey y’all! I am back for just a sec. It wouldn’t surprise me if they delay their (SCOTUS) decision until Monday. I read somewhere a LONG time ago that they (the Justices) will hang out on weekends and informally discuss cases sometimes. They can mull over consequences and have a little freer discussions than in chambers. From what I read, they are a pretty tight knit bunch – it was kind of surprising to read. I just always thought of them as stuffy and serious but I guess they hang out and have a pretty fun time. I will see if I can find this information – it was long ago and I don’t even know if it was on the internet…off to look…may be much later – I have a Christmas recital to go to…

  462. Ksinde. Says:

    Wow>>>Leo’s blod update?!? oh geez is all I can say.

  463. jjones35811 Says:

    Ksinde,
    I read it …. only thing I got from it was he didn’t know and hadn’t heard anything

  464. indy500 Says:

    Ksinde. Says:
    December 5, 2008 at 11:55 pm:
    _______________________________________
    I’m not shitt-in here. We had people here defending the Constitution. People that actually went to DC and stood up for the Constitution. Can anyone else provide similar proof? Okay how many of you robots actually went to DC and defened the Constitutuin? Rosettasister.com and find out how many freedom lovers went to Dc.

  465. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    OK I’m back– hubby is Christmas/Chanukah shopping–

  466. jrinNC Says:

    On the day of his inauguration, Barack Hussein Obama must stand and say the following words: “I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.” But what is an oath to such a charlatan traitor, who in a speech clearly stated the following: “The Constitution is a fundamental flaw and blind spot…..” I wonder if he will “CHANGE” the oath too????????????????????

  467. Ksinde. Says:

    Indy, I am glad i went regardless of what happens. This is something I really believe in. Also it was a good experience for my children. They got to see first hand a peaceful protest.

  468. Troy Says:

    He will never lay his hand on a bible when he takes the oath….Anybody want to bet?

  469. Ksinde. Says:

    Jr…wow that really puts this situation into perspective. If he is sworn in I bet his eye will be twitching crazy when he has to say it.

  470. Ksinde. Says:

    Troy, omg if he doesn’t swear on the bible I will be furious. What do you think Roberts will be thinking when he has to swear in BO on something other then a bible?!?

  471. jrinNC Says:

    Yes, I don’t want to miss that tic – but I hope and pray it doesn’t get that far.

  472. jjones35811 Says:

    I don’t think BO will have any problem swearing an oath on any book, he has lied so many times that it will be second nature to him…. what difference will a book make to him?

  473. jrinNC Says:

    Don’t know if you all have ever heard this but it is hilarious – what mentality –

    w . w . w.

    .justanotherlemon.com/tmp/WEnotrich1.wav

  474. rosettasister Says:

    New Thread:

    https://rosettasister.wordpress.com/2008/12/06/ender-thomas-yanni-voices/

  475. sdee Says:

    Leo on Laurie Roth show in a few minutes:

    usaradio.com/listen_live_usa2.php

    winamp works for me – media player did not

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