“Imaging guru: ‘Certification’ of birth time, location is fake” ‘It would be hard to perform as president from behind jail cell door at Leavenworth’ By Bob Unruh

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phil-dragoo

Image By Phil Dragoo

Link for image:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2141142/posts?page=27#27

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=82503

EXCERPT

A guru on the “Certification of Live Birth” Barack Obama’s campaign posted online to rebut charges he is ineligible to be president due to the Constitution’s “natural born citizen” requirement says it’s a fake, and further, that such fraud is criminal.

The Obama campaign has told WND such allegations are “garbage,” but Dr. Ron Polarik, who holds a Ph.D. in instructional media specializing in computer technology such as printers, scanners and digital imaging, disagrees. His analyses have been posted online in a YouTube video, which also is embedded here:

He explained to WND his four months of research on the images, including nearly 1,000 test images using actual scans and photographs of real certifcates, reveal there are several “giveaways” on the image itself. For example, the document has gray and white between the lettering, not green pixels as the rest of the background document, suggesting someone cut-and-pasted or typed new information that was embedded on top of the background.

Where’s the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S. and thus a “natural born American” as required by Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution? If you still want to see it, sign WND’s petition demanding the release of his birth certificate.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81550

Also, Polarik said although the Obama form has a border like that used in Hawaii in 2007, the seal is like that used in 2006 or 2008, but not 2007. His full report is posted at Polarik.blogtownhall.com.

In Polarik’s view, there has to be a significant reason for a political candidate and campaign to go to such lengths.

“Obviously, there’s something very critical to hide, or they wouldn’t have spent the million dollars in legal fees to prevent the release of his original birth certificate,” Polarik told WND.

“There’s absolutely something to hide,” he said. “If he was born in Hawaii they would have had a luau that would be continuing today.

“Not that the people who voted for him would care,” he said, “but they used this forged document to convince the American voters.

“It’s a scary thought to have someone who essentially begins his presidency as a criminal,” he said, because the use of a faked document as identification is, in fact, a crime, he noted.

“It would be hard to perform as president from behind jail cell door at Leavenworth,” he said.

The video has Polarik’s face and voice disguised and he confirmed in talking with WND that he’s using an assumed name because of the threats he’s reported receiving.

Polarik said the issue of the birth location is a “chink” in Obama’s armor, but the Democrat also has declined to release information about his college years, about his selective service and about his passports, including on what nation’s passport he traveled to Pakistan two decades ago when it was illegal to go there as a U.S. citizen.

Polarik describes his findings and conclusions on the video.

See also:

“OBAMA’S ‘BORN’ CONSPIRACY – Important and corrections (11/30/08)”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2141142/posts

From illuminatitv

“Obama Vs. Constitution (60 Sec. TV Ad)”

Phil Berg Barack Obama Ron Polarik Jeff Schreiber

247 Responses to ““Imaging guru: ‘Certification’ of birth time, location is fake” ‘It would be hard to perform as president from behind jail cell door at Leavenworth’ By Bob Unruh”

  1. thinkingmom11 Says:

    am I first…?

  2. Foxtrot Says:

    second?

  3. Foxtrot Says:

    The most important element to this, if he gets away with it, is the fact he would set a precedent. From here on out, anyone, including foreigners, could run for POTUS which would put our country in severe harms way! I am so worried.

  4. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Fox – I left a reponse to you on the last thread about what our next step would be…did you see it?

    I have tried to think of what our civil recourse would be – being a voice of dissent will be no good – you can see how good they are getting at shutting out opposing views; protesting does no good against those who refuse to listen; “voting the bums out” doesn’t happen frequently enough to stop bad policy or when you only have another “bum” to vote in.

    I am truely distraught and saddened by this whole situation…

  5. Foxtrot Says:

    I did see it. I feel the same way you do. I am, however, optimistic that it won’t get to that point. I do have high hopes that SCOTUS will come through on at least one of the cases. Cross your fingers!

  6. rosettasister Says:

    Polarik Comments at Free Republic:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2141142/posts

    Now, I may have to modify what I said about the Seal on the Obama’s bogus 2007 COLB. I said that is resembled the 2008 Seal. It also seems to resemble the 2006 Seal. What it definitely does not resemble is a 2007 Seal.

    Either way you slice it, the 2007 Obama COLB, does not look like a real 2007 COLB; but, hey it does bear a striking resemblance to a real 2006 COLB. It has a Seal like a 2006 Seal. It has a border that looks more like a 2006 border than a 2007 border.

    Could Obama’s bogus 2007 COLB be a forged image made of 2006 COLB parts? At least!

    More nails in the Obama COLB coffin

    1 posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 5:50:47 PM by Polarik

    To: Polarik
    I’ve asked this many times before and never gotten an answer, so maybe you’ll humor me. How can someone claim a document is legitimate or false when they have not seen the document?

    2 posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 5:55:27 PM by Crystal Cove

    To: Crystal Cove
    Here’s a better question:
    “How can someone claim a document is legitimate or false when the document doesn’t exist?”
    Second queston

    3 posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 5:57:51 PM by Polarik

    (Referring to Phil Dragoo image copied in above post.)

    To: PhilDragoo
    I love it! It’s like one of those coins with two heads!

    28 posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 10:35:01 PM by Polarik

    To: Polarik
    Oh, wow..I am one, tired puppy. I was on Lamphere’s show for two hours, tonight.

    29 posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 10:36:42 PM by Polarik

    To: Crystal Cove
    My second question would be the same as my first question, since you completely avoided it.
    There’s no question to avoid, period, because there’s no question that a real 2007 COLB document would have the Seal used on 2007 COLBs, and not the Seal used on 2006 or 2008 COLBs.
    If you wish to offer up a stupid, idiotic, pointless question like, “How do you know that a real 2007 COLB cannot have a seal from a different year,” then you can save your breath.

    44 posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 11:24:05 PM by Polarik

  7. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I too hope that because the SC seems to be interested in this that they will wind up hearing the case. They would obviously (I would think) stay the electoral college until things are worked out. But I am most concerned with the millions of angry, uninformed people out there who will be causing trouble. I hope that the Court does a supreme PR job in conveying their opinion to the public. They SERIOUSLY need to educate people, get a REAL PR person to communicate what is going on. They HAVE GOT to handle it better than they did in the Bush/Gore fiasco.

  8. Foxtrot Says:

    This change in Polarik’s opinion makes me nervous!!!!!!!!!!

  9. Foxtrot Says:

    I agree Mom. They do need a good communications director if this does end up moving forward and impacting the inauguration.

  10. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I don’t Polarik’s change makes me nervous, it just means that he has evaluated new evidence and it STILL eliminates the BC from being authentic. I am glad he addressed it because that is less that he could be confronted on in a court of law which could cause some of that “resonable doubt” defence lawyers love.

  11. thinkingmom11 Says:

    please add a “think” after “don’t” up there…

  12. Foxtrot Says:

    This is a wonderful article! A must read! Put the w w w. in front of the address below.

    noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/02/the-racial-narrative-vs-reality/

    Let me know what you think. Very well written.

  13. Melissa Says:

    Hello Everyone,

    This was a comment from the Texas Darlin’ blog:

    ***********************************************

    Something big is about to happen in Sacramento, and the courts aren’t even involved! Looks like we’ve got some people on the inside seeing this stuff and doing the leg work!!

    Word is, and this is from the folks I used to work with up there, several S of S workers in at least half the states are working together on this. I used to deal with electors and ballot work, I’m driving up there in about an hour to help with the paperwork – it’s happening folks! I’ll be checking on here for any more info – not the one driving so it’ll be easy.

    Regards,

    C.R.

    #
    on December 1, 2008 at 5:39 pm C.R.

    P.S. also, some of the S of S people in other states (well, I’m talking to a handful of people in Sacramento, so maybe there are ones there too) say that in other states, these folks are looking at NOBAMA & McCain. not good, but it does seem to be only a few of those states

    —-

    Cheers to C.R. keep us posted.

  14. Foxtrot Says:

    Yes, but it shakes his stalworthy foundation of investigative skills in the eyes of the opponent. Trust me, the Obamanuts will grab at anything!

  15. Foxtrot Says:

    Melissa–what does S of S mean? Is that for Secretary of State? Please give us more details?!?

  16. Foxtrot Says:

    I have sent that No Quarter article I posted above to several of my friends and family. Every time I stated Obama was not “black” but rather “bi-racial”, I always got the dirty looks. This article is brilliantly written and states the case, leaving little room for argument.

  17. Foxtrot Says:

    Recent update about Leo’s case: (use h t t p: / / in front of it)

    citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/12/02/leo-donofrio-lawsuit-us-supreme-court-donofrio-v-wells-update-december-2-2008-justice-clarence-thomas-all-9-supreme-court-justices-conference-friday-december-5-rule-of-four/

  18. Melissa Says:

    Foxtrot Says:
    December 2, 2008 at 5:17 pm

    Melissa–what does S of S mean? Is that for Secretary of State? Please give us more details?!?
    ***********************************************

    Secretaries of State

  19. Foxtrot Says:

    The rumor that the full court is seriously considering a ‘stay’ on the Electoral College voting is INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!!!! Oh my gosh. I can’t get too excited . . . . TOO LATEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

  20. Foxtrot Says:

    Here is an excerpt from the ‘update’ article I posted:

    “There is also a rumor that the full Court may be seriously considering staying the Electoral College vote until after Barack Obama’s eligibility can be confirmed (the following excerpt from Bob Vernon of Honest American News (Plains Radio Network)):

    Today I spoke with Patricia McCabe Estrada, Deputy Director of Public Information at the United States Supreme Court. She informed me that Mr. Donofrio’s application was first referred to the full Court by Justice Clarence Thomas on November 19, 2008. After that referral took place the full Court, and not Justice Thomas alone, distributed the application for an emergency stay for Conference of December 5, 2008. [emphasis mine]

    We now know that the renewed request to halt the election was not denied and is actively being considered at the Supreme Court.”

  21. Foxtrot Says:

    **crickets chirping**

  22. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Fox – maybe you can help me here, when they say

    “CONFIRMED BY SCOTUS: DONOFRIO V. WELLS WAS DISTRIBUTED FOR CONFERENCE OF DECEMBER 5, 2008 BY THE FULL UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT AFTER FIRST HAVING BEEN REFERRED TO THE COURT BY JUSTICE THOMAS”

    and most specifically when they say “the FULL USSC…” do they ever say referred to conference buy 7 of the 9 Justices, or 5 of the 9 Justices or by one particular Justice? I just haven’t followed any other Supreme Court case quite SOOOOO closely…TIA for your (or anyone else’s) help!

  23. thinkingmom11 Says:

    sorry for letting the crickets take over 😉 I was following links and reading

    This is all getting very exciting!

  24. Foxtrot Says:

    It is my understanding that “distributed for conference” means that all the Justices are given the case. If 4 or 5 (depending on what action will be taken) decide to take the case, it will move forward. The article states the difference between whether 4 or 5 Justices want to move it forward, and what that means.

    This is my understanding.

  25. Foxtrot Says:

    Mom, did you get to read the No Quarter article I posted? Very good, wasn’t it?

  26. j.b. Says:

    //michellemalkin.com/2008/12/02/shamnesty-sen-mel-martinez-to-retire/

    Well, well, well, memba Mel?

    *here’s a hint; he was the guy who responded to inquiries re;Obama’s BC with an assinine letter that basically said;

    “Obama was vetted by the American voters, twice, once when he was nominated and again when the majority voted on Nov. 3rd.”! *

    Ha I had NO idea he was/is (supposedly) an R.

    Oh and Good afternoon!

  27. Foxtrot Says:

    jb – I read that article too. What a schmuck!

  28. thinkingmom11 Says:

    It seems that they are making a big deal out of it being referred to conference by the Full Court and not just Justice Thomas…just wondering what the meaning of that is…I imagine that it may mean that ALL the Justices want to have a look at what is going on and not just one guy hoping/forcing the others to look at it…who knows – I sure don’t 🙂

  29. Foxtrot Says:

    No, Mom, it usually means it has ‘merit’ and it is ‘too big for one Justice to decide upon’. They usually only distribute if it is a big deal! This is good news!

  30. rosettasister Says:

    This was sent to me from one of our regulars. I wasn’t sure if she’d already posted this. We must be on the same wavelength, as I was just about to post Judah Benjamin’s Reply to Donofrio. (See below.)

    (Thank you! I wasn’t sure if you preferred anonymity.)

    —————————————

    Hello Bob, runruh@wnd.com

    In several WND articles, including your most recent, I have observed an assumption that, if Obama was born in Hawaii, he would be a natural born citizen. This assumption is blatantly false.

    Donofrio’s case is not dependent upon where Obama was born. The vault birth certificate will definitely be informative, but will not be the determining factor.

    Obama’s father of record was a Kenyan/British citizen and thus his son was also a Kenyan/British citizen. A natural born citizen of the US cannot have any divided loyalty.

    Only those born in the United States of two (2) US citizen parents can be a natural born citizen. Here is an excellent article by Judah Benjamin:

    http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/11/28/natural-born-citizens-or-how-to-beat-a-subject-to-death-with-a-stick/

    Make sure you also follow the link within this article to the Federalists article by Madison. Donofrio argues that even McCain may not be eligible under Article II of the Constitution.

    Here is Donofrio’s discussion of Judah Benjamin’s article: (a must read)

    http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2008/12/01/leo-donofrio-comments-on-judah-benjamin-article-concerning-natural-born-citizen-and-the-common-law/

    Within Donofrio’s article is reference with link to Justice Scalia’s recent statements regarding common law.

    There are those (possible leaks out of the Bush Admin) that believe the SCOTUS will stay the Electoral College vote in lieu of a full hearing.

    If the Supremes elect to protect the Constitution, we could be looking at a new election…possibly in April. Perhaps you could research if the White House has issued an alert to the National Guard to stand ready.

    I enjoy your articles and hope that you will consider clarifying this issue for your readers. Thank you for putting this in the public eye.

    Kindest regards,

    ——————————-

    See also:

    “A Reply to Donofrio” By Judah Benjamin

    http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/12/02/a-reply-to-donofrio/

    EXCERPT

    I believe our disagreement is semantic and not actually legal and I don’t believe my analysis is flawed. But I don’t believe Donofrio’s basic argument is flawed either. Essentially whether you use precedent and intention or a strict basic Common Law view, BHO II cannot be eligible to hold the Office of POTUS.

    To say that someone is right for the wrong reasons is still to say that they are right.

  31. sliderblaze Says:

    dont let the door hit ya on the way out mel peace

  32. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Thanks Fox – I figured it was a big deal – I just wanted to try to figure out why!

  33. Foxtrot Says:

    Basically it boils down to no Justice wants to take the ‘hit’ alone for a big case. When it is distributed, it spreads the responsibility among all of them.

  34. Cyndi Says:

    Good Morning Everyone!!

  35. Foxtrot Says:

    Hi Cyndi! Did you catch up on the above reading? Gotta get you up to speed here.

  36. Foxtrot Says:

    Cyndi, it is afternoon here. Where are you from?

  37. j.b. Says:

    I was catching up on the last thread and found this;

    Since you seem to get a kick outta the facial tic thing and you like Coach – the episode where Coach has his tic is going to be on WGN on Dec 14

    Dang, you guys were up way late last night! (I know, depending on where you’re from and all…..)
    Anyways (any Deadwood watchers here?), MOM how did you find out the Coach episode theme for Dec 14th?! lol.

  38. thinkingmom11 Says:

    JB Well, I found it on AOL tv – but then realized it actually ISN”T the episode I thought it was. AND the youtube vidoes I found – my son and I watched part I and part II when part II cuts off before the end!!! The very end is the FUNNIEST part – so don’t torture yourself watching it….

  39. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Fox – i am gonna need a week to read those Judah Benjamin articles!!! And then Donofrio’s – can I apply for a college credit or CLEP for all of this, I wonder!?

  40. Foxtrot Says:

    Come on, Mom–you are smarter than that. They are fairly self explanatory. Very informative. I will see what I can do about the CLEP credits! hehe!

  41. j.b. Says:

    SINCE DILLER IS WORM FOOD THAT’S A GOOD CHOICE…PELOSI LOOKS LIKE DEATH WARMED OVER

    omg, Troy, you are bad! I did not know that PD passed away.

    …worm food…….*shaking head*

  42. Foxtrot Says:

    The No Quarter article is very down to earth in its language. Did you read that one?

  43. Foxtrot Says:

    By the way folks . . . Phyllis Diller is NOT dead. She is still alive and kickin’ at age 91!

  44. Schnorkies Says:

    If the Supreme Court rules that Obama is NOT elligible for the Office of Presidency, you can be sure that there will be much rioting and mayhem from all of the Obamabots. This could even unfold as a civil war in this country. I believe that this has been the plan by our government all along.

    Once the rioting starts, then Marshall law is declared. FEMA is in charge now.
    Our own military (as well as the foreign troops stationed in this country) will be given orders to police civilians. That’s you and me!

    This is just the beginning. Please research.

  45. Cyndi Says:

    I just woke up. I think I was up til 5:30 or 6:00, so it’s morning to me. I haven’t had time to catch up am trying though. Does anyone know if Slider received a response from Duff Hale?

  46. thinkingmom11 Says:

    FOX – Yes – No Quarter’s article was a good read. Hard to figure what people are thinking and feeling with regard to race and where does logic fit in on top of all of it. I cannot really try to relate as I have always seen myself as just an American. I always knew that I had a wildly mixed heritage (Irish, Scotch, German, Cherokee and who knows what else) but, while it was interesting for me to know, I never tried to identify myself with any of those factions – I was raised as an American. Period. All the race identifying and hyphenating is divisive and unnecessary in my opinion.

    Now, I can read JBen’s stuff but with all the distractions (5yo and 3yo) and trying to get to older kids through their school day it is hard to keep a train of thought going for more than a couple of minutes at a time! I tell my kids when I am reading these long articles that I am “doing school” too…

  47. sliderblaze Says:

    i’m checking my email now

  48. carribeansoul Says:

    Thanks Rose! I just saw that I have been approved! 🙂

    Boy, I sure hope these rumors are true and this does really come about! I’ve tried not to be a “nutjob” about this whole thing, but wouldn’t it be great to say “I told you so!!!”

  49. Troy Says:

    Foxtrot Says:

    December 2, 2008 at 6:17 pm
    By the way folks . . . Phyllis Diller is NOT dead. She is still alive and kickin’ at age 91!
    ————————————————————
    Wow, that’s amazing….I figured for sure she was mummy by now….Oops, did I just say that?….Shame on me!!!

  50. sliderblaze Says:

    this is the response

    You can do an internet search (Dogpile or Google) on Berg v. Obama and get
    all the info you want. I simply passed on information I read there. One
    must surely question why there has been so much reticence on the part of
    Obama and the DNC in furnishing the requested documentation to lay all this
    to rest once and for all.

    Duff Hale

  51. sliderblaze Says:

    Welcome SOUL

  52. Cyndi Says:

    Thank you Slider!

    Hi carribeansoul you’ll find we are truth seekers here.

  53. rosettasister Says:

    “Whole Lotta Bloggin’ Goin’ On”

    My husband is a daily visitor to Pat Dollard’s blog. But beware! Dollard pulls no punches!

    http://patdollard.com/2008/12/we-the-people-respectfully-request-your-damn-birth-certificate-on-december-5-7-for-our-team-of-forensic-scientists/

    http://www.dailypaul.com/node/74823

    http://jschulmansr.wordpress.com/2008/12/02/obama-latest-birth-certificate-news-obama-watch/

    http://thatsjustbob.blogspot.com/2008/12/worldnet-daily-calls-obama-fake.html

    http://smithfiles.com/2008/11/25/jihad-in-columbus-ohio/

    http://thehuffingtonriposte.blogspot.com/2008/12/questions-persist-about-obamas-birth.html

    http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/12/01/obama-birth-certificate-rears-its-ugly-head-again/?icid=200100397x1213691203x1200912886

    http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaLatest.htm

    http://www.colorofcrime.net/2008/12/make-media-tell-truth-about-obama.html

    http://pressing4truth.blogspot.com/2008/12/islamic-leader-incited-mumbai-attacks.html

  54. Foxtrot Says:

    The more I read on other blogs about the SCOTUS, the more optimistic I become. It is looking very good. If some of you have not sent letters to the Supreme Court Justices, I would encourage you to do so. However, they do not accept faxes, so you would have to Fed Ex them. I put all of the letters into one Fed Ex envelope (each in their own addressed, individual envelope inside) when I sent mine to arrive last Wednesday. It would need to arrive no later than Thursday, so . . . get goin’!!!

  55. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    There is just too much excitement here I have to find a boring, low key place to go too!

    JK (Just kidding) >>:0)

    Totally different subject here but I have to know: Has anyone heard ANYTHING

  56. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    OOPs! Told you too much excitement here– I hit submit too soon!

    Ok.. has anyone heard anything about BO’s grandmother’s funeral? Did this woman really die or not? I haven’t heard anything about him going to the funeral or MO and the girls going…anyone know anything?

  57. inspirational1 Says:

    Found this on another blog thought everyone might want an update on the Chicago Trib. ad…

    .democratic-disaster.com/index.php?topic=1276.0

    Jr. Member

    Posts: 96

    Irate phone calls & e-letters over the FULL PAGE ADVERTISEMENT Chicago Tribune
    « on: December 01, 2008, 08:32:43 PM »

    ——————————————————————————–
    Irate phone calls & e-letters over the FULL PAGE ADVERTISEMENT in Today’s Chicago Tribune challenging Barack Obama to PROVE WHERE HE WAS BORN with MORE than a FORGED BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!!

    A call was made by reader to Kristin today in the Chicago Tribune Editorial Board Department. Kristin says the Chicago Tribune has been receiving volumes of irate phone calls & e-letters over the FULL PAGE ADVERTISEMENT in Today’s Chicago Tribune challenging Barack Obama to PROVE WHERE HE WAS BORN with MORE than a FORGED BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!!

    The ad is also scheduled to run on Dec. 3rd – but Kristin of the Chicago Tribune seemed to doubt whether that would happen – given the hate e-mail & calls already received today?

    http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/UPDATE/Update2008-11-28.htm

    Both the NBC News Chicago Bureau & the NBC New York Desk 1- (800) NBC-NEWS (1-800-622-6397) , as well as CBS News New York National Desk @ 1-(212) 975-4114 STILL REFUSE to ACKNOWLEDGE the Advertisement in the Chicago Tribune or the Obama Birth Issue before the Supreme Cour this week!

    ACTION STEP: email the tribune here: publiceditor@tribune.com and tell them you want the ad to run as scheduled on Dec. 3rd!

  58. Foxtrot Says:

    SOUL – welcome. Is there a reason you spell ‘carribean’ that way? Are you incorporating your last or first name in it somehow? The reason I ask is that Caribbean is spelled with one ‘r’ and two ‘b’s’. The last time I saw it spelled this way was with an old college roommate whose first name was ‘carri’ so she spelled it the way you do. Are you Carri P from Minnesota?

  59. Foxtrot Says:

    Patty – now that you say it, I haven’t heard anything. What, have they got Grandma on ice or something? Anyone heard any more on this subject?

  60. jjones Says:

    Update
    http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/

  61. jjones Says:

    Udate on Donofrio
    naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/

  62. rosettasister Says:

    Am I the only one that wasn’t aware of this?!

    ———————–

    Try this link:

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/stations/HeadingRight/patdollard

    —————————

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    Thats right, Reverend Manning himself, the most prominent Pastor in Harlem, is going to be our exclusive guest for the full 2 hours of this Sunday’ s Jihadikiller Hour.

    I want to get at the core of two things; the reasons President-Elect Tarzan should not be President of the United States, and how Reverend Manning’s Resistance Movement works.

    We’ll find out when Senator Tarzan first came under Pastor Manning’s scrutiny and go to the essential reasons why the Pastor so very, very passionately believes the President-Elect is nothing short of evil.

    Please join us for the media event of lifetime, a night of American Radio unlike any you will ever hear as these two titanic, passionate, God-fearing, patriotic and legendary personalities,

    Pastor Manning and Pat Dollard, raise your roof and shake you to your core with truth, in this historical meeting of two men operating under great adversity

    as they wage their war on the most evil cult leader in the history of the Republic; the first so far to actually seize the Republic.

  63. Cyndi Says:

    We Will Not Be Silenced Promo Clips

    youtube.com/watch?v=yhXA3fXpCFk

    “All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.”
    -Thomas Jefferson

    What I find extremely disturbing is the fact most people are afraid to talk, they fear for their lives. It’s been talked about everywhere. Are we losing our right of Freedom of Speech? Just think how we will be silenced if BO moves forward.

  64. Foxtrot Says:

    jjones — we already updated on that. How are you?

  65. carribeansoul Says:

    Thanks for the welcome slider and cyndi! I sure want the truth as well but even if his BC comes out clean I still don’t trust him. His associations alone kept me from voting for him!

    Foxtrot, I too am feeling somewhat optimistic. It’s just too big a deal for the SCOTUS to let it slide I think. And, as was pointed out earlier, it would set a VERY bad precendent for the future. What scares me is that everyone I have talked to about it has the same attitude as that fill-in for Rush yesterday…..”yeah, it probably true but nothing will come of it”. WTH???

    My opinion is that if they don’t make him show that he is eligible and if he is not, then disqualify him they are letting fear and PC make their decisions. Who cares how the idiots will act?? Lock ’em up! Just my most humble opinion of course! 🙂

  66. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    blogging to count as activism and lobbying with taxation and all…just on FOX NEWS coming out of Seattle Washington State regulators, causing it to come under finance laws–

  67. j.b. Says:

    Pepper….. wait. What?

  68. carribeansoul Says:

    Foxtrot Says:

    December 2, 2008 at 6:45 pm
    SOUL – welcome. Is there a reason you spell ‘carribean’ that way? Are you incorporating your last or first name in it somehow? The reason I ask is that Caribbean is spelled with one ‘r’ and two ‘b’s’. The last time I saw it spelled this way was with an old college roommate whose first name was ‘carri’ so she spelled it the way you do. Are you Carri P from Minnesota?

    _______________________________________________

    no, guess I’m just a bad speller! 🙂 It’s actually from Mr. Buffett and his “carribean soul I can hardly control” mantra! But, come to think of it, my mother calls me “Kari” (for Karen)…..only I’m in TN. Oh well….

  69. Cyndi Says:

    youtube.com/watch?v=QQFCCVd1jQc

    Speaking of Manning, he goes off on BO and MO and her tight pants with Obama on her butt. It’s really funny.

  70. hockeyfan530 Says:

    sent an email to the tribune. People are SOOOOO stupid. If they don’t believe it they should laugh about it and move on. If they do believe it then they should be angry at O. and the DNC. What a bunch of morons!

  71. Foxtrot Says:

    I just shot off my letter to the Chicago Tribune telling them to run the ad on Wednesday and why I support it. Hope all of you do as well.

  72. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    HI JB, Sorry, I was away…they were just saying on FOX News that Washington State Regulators want bloggers who are “activist” to be considered as lobbiest and bring them under the same finance laws as lobbiest (lobbyest?) are. Another way to trample on our first ammendment rights. Bloggers are fighting back saying that no, they are journalists.

  73. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    afternoon everyone

  74. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Fox – Well, I got throught the Judah B. article. He makes it seem so simple and straightforward…like “how could anyone come to a different conclusion?” This just solidifies what I believe is true. NOW….I am off to read Donofrio’s response…

  75. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I spent some time in the aol article blog early this morning…

  76. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    It was for the most part positive…. most said they thought he should just show the papers and get it over with….a few were nasty wanting in Bo no matter what……
    here is the kickers….. many we upset that we called ourselves “We the People”

  77. Foxtrot Says:

    Keep reading, Mom! Both the articles I posted are worth the read! Very informative. Your assessment of the one article is very accurate. The argument is difficult to question.

  78. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Fox

    The grandmother has been made dust… there was a memorial BO didn’t show for it….. guess they are planning on a family only memorial sometime this month.

  79. Foxtrot Says:

    Gotta run to the store (Baesler’s to you, JAC!). Be back soon.

  80. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Fox

    let me know if baesler’s has any good sales…. 🙂

  81. j.b. Says:

    Thanks for the update link, jjones, I did not realize that Cort made it there this a.m.! Dayuuum, they must have put him on the first flight this mornin’ or the redeye last night! Good for him!

    I just talked to my mom, she’s 79, poor gal she keeps asking for updates, but then when I give them to her she gets all riled up.(well, I do too, but “that’s different”.)

    Anyhoo, trying to get her to wrap her head around this, well, I don’t know who needs more duct tape, me or her!

    I finally said, “This Friday there will be an answer.”

    Then she told me she saw The Globe cover…..I am surprised she did not buy it. Prolly doesn’ t want to split her loyalty to The National Enquirer. lol.

    Thanks for the clarification., Pepper……

  82. j.b. Says:

    Thanks for the update link, jjones, I did not realize that Cort made it there this a.m.! Dayuuum, they must have put him on the first flight this mornin’ or the redeye last night! Good for him!

    I just talked to my mom, she’s 79, poor gal she keeps asking for updates, but then when I give them to her she gets all riled up.(well, I do too, but “that’s different”.)

    Anyhoo, trying to get her to wrap her head around this, well, I don’t know who needs more duct tape, me or her!

    I finally said, “This Friday there will be an answer.”

    Then she told me she saw The Globe cover…..I am surprised she did not buy it. Prolly doesn’ t want to split her loyalty to The National Enquirer. lol.

    Thanks for the clarification., Pepper……

  83. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Is Granny on Ice? Did she die or was this just A: a way to get sympathy votes? B: A way to get the “scent-hunters” off the trail so that Granny could be stashed somewhere? Seems a little strange that Granny died and the media wasn’t there at the funeral, that BO didn’t cut the campaign short on that day, that no one has whistled a dirge for the dame.

  84. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    patty

    The grandmother has been made dust… there was a memorial BO didn’t show for it….. guess they are planning on a family only memorial sometime this month.

  85. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Patty

    well this may earn me a tin foil hat award…..but

    I think she actually died just before Bo announced he had to go to Hawaii.
    it gave him an excuse to run down there and get the BC sealed and remove any papers, photos that might not look good for bam bam.

    kind of easy with money and powerful friends to “delay” the death for a week. then announce it later about her death…… makes him look like the good grandson going down and seeing her one last time.

  86. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Does all the Granny stuff seem a bit strange to ANYONE? I mean, this is the only relative that BO (aside from sister) had from his childhood. The woman raised him! She dies and of course she’s made dust… be hard to determine who and what and all that kind of stuff if she’s dust (granny could be in a nice little villa in Indonesia now) (I prefer my tin hat in shiny Christmas/Chanukah colors please)!

  87. Cyndi Says:

    You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
    You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
    You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
    You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
    You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
    You cannot build character and courage by taking away
    men’s initiative and independence.
    You cannot help men permanently by doing for them,
    what they could and should do for themselves.

    —Abraham Lincoln

  88. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Cort Wrotnowski, (SCOTUS Docket No. 08A469), a day after facing the shock of his life when told by a SCOTUS clerk that his renewed application to Justice Scalia would be held back for 7 days due to anthrax screening, hand delivered 10 copies of his renewed application to the Security booth at SCOTUS this morning at 10:30 AM.

    Cort was told by the Clerk’s office that the papers would “probably” be in the Clerk’s office by 2:00 PM. Cort’s application, according to Supreme Court Rule 22.1, should be “transmitted promptly” to the Honorable Associate Justice Antonin Scalia.

  89. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    I would like to write the screen play for this whole mess! Agatha Christy couldn’t do a better plot than ol’ BO has done. Geeze– he was on tv today, and I have to remind myself that Bush is still the prez…someone needs to remind BO that he is only PE… he just doesn’t say anything when he talks.. except about how wonderful and humble he is.

    I know, I’m getting my name moved higher on the red list…

    let me adjust my tinsel on my hat a little:0)

  90. Gianni Says:

    Wouldn’t you think by now that someone on the inside at Columbia University would have leaked Obama’s school records? These school records are the smoking gun. They will obviously show that Obama attended college beginning in 1981 with an Indonesian citizenship. This is why Obama has refused to release these records.

    Some great patriot needs to do the right thing and release Obama’s school records from Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard. These are the most damning evidence, and they are being heavily guarded. Indeed, even the question “Why has Obama not released his college records?” will likely send any Obamanot into an uproar. But the question keeps needing to be asked.

  91. rosettasister Says:

    Gianni Says:
    December 2, 2008 at 8:11 pm

    ———–

    Welcome, Gianni!

  92. Cyndi Says:

    PeppermintPatty did you read the post I had made about Grandma? He didn’t just hide her for info on him but for info on the entire banking system and how they are defrauding American’s out of their money.

    lamecherry.blogspot.com/2008/09/dont-come-looking-at-gramama-obamas_28.html

  93. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    OK.. so my tinfoil has kept my little brain from working, but who the heck is this Cort guy? I’ve been playing so much catch-up on everything! I know he’s been trying to get his case before Scalia and they put it over in the anthrax room—that’s so not funny… and I’m glad the dear man has had presence to hand deliver to them the papers… but I’m just hearing about him today. Where’s he from and what’s he doing–aside from trying to dethrone the King of Id.

  94. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Cyndi Says:

    December 2, 2008 at 8:09 pm
    =====================

    I LOVE that!! I just told my kids I found a new memorization passage! Kind of at odds with Obama’s philosophy, hmm.

  95. Troy Says:

    someone needs to remind BO that he is only PE
    ——————————————————
    Everyone keeps making this same mistake….Obama is NOT president elect….The electors will have to vote for him on Dec. 15th to make him PE….He isn’t even a senator anymore, he relinquished his senate seat….His is CITIZEN Obama and soon to be INMATE Obama!!!!!

  96. Tenacity Says:

    Rose,
    If I send you something via email and do not state to keep it confidential, feel free to put my blog handle on it and use it however you wish. If I am seeking anonymity, I will let you know. I just hope Unruh got it and does something about it.

  97. Cyndi Says:

    Mom I loved it as well, and so true.

  98. Ksinde. Says:

    Hi everyone!!! What a glorious day.. I feel fo optimistic for the first time in a long time 🙂 I feel like the dark cloud that has been over us is starting to lift!!!

    Pep & Cindy, I too wear a tinfoil hat when it comes to GO (Granny Obama). The whole situation of him flying there and a few days later she passes and no big to do about her memorial or cremation?!? Very shady business.

  99. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Troy
    ___________

    Right now he is a man without a job waiting on his housing

  100. thinkingmom11 Says:

    INMATE Obama…..I like the sound of that. I wonder how he looks in orange…

  101. Cyndi Says:

    Tenacaity oooooooooooh whatcha got???? My mind of course if running wild.

  102. j.b. Says:

    Say it, Brother Troy!

  103. Tenacity Says:

    I just think Phyllis Diller would make a perfect Nancy Pelosi. Her age might be a bit of a problem. I also don’t know if she could keep a straight face long enough to play the part…after all, Phyllis is actually quite bright and certainly could never take herself that seriously. Pelosi on the other hand is the most arogant-ignorant megalomaniac I may have ever seen. The ultimate Post Turtle.

  104. Ksinde. Says:

    has anyone heard any more about the SCOTUS march for this thursday or friday? If it is scheduled, will any of you go? I will def like to go and would also bring my 3 older children. I think it would be a great experience for them to see a peaceful march and me may never experience this type of constitutional crisis in our lifetime (atleast i hope not).

  105. j.b. Says:

    Cyndi Says:

    December 2, 2008 at 8:09 pm


    You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
    You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
    You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
    You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
    You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
    You cannot build character and courage by taking away
    men’s initiative and independence.
    You cannot help men permanently by doing for them,
    what they could and should do for themselves.

    —Abraham Lincoln
    ***************************************

    Thanks, I needed that!

  106. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Troy
    _____

    you mean TO BE PROVEN A CITIZEN Obama
    😉

  107. j.b. Says:

    Ksinde there is a link above re; Friday a.n …….countusout, I think.

  108. Tenacity Says:

    Cyndi,
    Rose already posted it above. I wrote Bob Unruh at FR and copied Rose on it last evening… or I guess it was early this morning. Geez, what time did everybody finally go to bed last night?

  109. rosettasister Says:

    “Why is the Media Silent on the Obama Birth Certificate Question?”

    http://www.crossactionnews.com/articles/view/why-is-the-media-silent-on-the-obama-birth-certificate-question

    Posted on December 01, 2008
    By Rev. Michael Bresciani

    Freeper Thread on above:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2140861/posts

    To: Victory111
    Everyone should read Edwin Viera’s article posted on the net today.

    http://www.thebulletin.us/site/news.cfm?newsid=20210273

    Viera is a Harvard honors grad for BA, MA, JD and PhD. He ws not on the foreign student affirmative action program.
    The article has a few incredible points:

    1. If Obama signs any law that has a criminal penalty like his No Abortion (aka Dead Baby) Left Behind law. A criminal defendant can demand O produce his BC and he will have to provide it. The defendant will have a team of forensic people who will most likely prove it is a fraud. All hell will break loose then.

    2. O by not producing the BC is committing a major fraud and Viera or any (sane) attorney would quit as counsel for O. He makes no mention if O could be criminally charged.

    3. This thing is not going to go away. Lawsuits will be filed even after he is sworn in. Laws, appointments, treaties, actions, amendments or just about anything he does could be thrown out. This will cause legal and Constitutional chaos. The Supreme Court Justices, in my view, cannot punt on this thing. It is legal and Constitutional aramgeddon caused by O and the DNC.

    44 posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 11:43:45 AM by Frantzie

    To: Frantzie

    2. O by not producing the BC is committing a major fraud and Viera or any (sane) attorney would quit as counsel for O. He makes no mention if O could be criminally charged.

    Halleluah! I told-you-so!

    88 posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 1:08:23 PM by Polarik

  110. thinkingmom11 Says:

    How about Joan Rivers when she and Nancy compare notes on the performance they can compare notes on plastic surgeons, too. And think of the fun they can have comparing scars and seeing who can close their eyes the most! Heartwarming, I tell you. *sniff*

  111. Ksinde. Says:

    J B, yes I saw a site wemustbeheard.com had scheduled it for friday at 8am. But I know that plains and freedommarch were suppose to sleep on it and make a decision. i was hoping something would be posted on freedonmarch.org today, but i did not see anything.

  112. Ksinde. Says:

    mom, yes Joan Rivers is another great one! Also, someone had mentioned Pecsi for Leo, that is a good one. But i was thinking Owen Wilson. Owen could be made up to look like him i think. In the youtube video i saw of Leo’s band, he reminded me of Owen a bit.

  113. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    i wished i lived close to DC, to be in on that march

  114. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    well michael Moore, made that icky movie about GW ,..wish we could get someone to do the same about Bam Bam

  115. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Owen would work for sure…

    JAC – I, too, wish I could make it. I’d have to start driving today though!

  116. Ksinde. Says:

    Cindy, how far away r u from DC?

  117. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    lol,… I’ve got where i love calling him bam bam,…. really gets under his supporters skins……… they made fun of Bush’s name for 8 years.

  118. Melissa Says:

    Please help to rate Leo’s video on YouTube.

    The following is a message from the Admin on Zapem:
    ***************************************************

    We have to keep that video up on the “news favorites” page on YouTube!

    youtube.com/watch?v=ftlJVFBNyfo

    Please go to that link and rate it for 5 stars. This will keep us on the MAIN NEWS page for YouTube. They’re already trying to attack it with lower ratings, so we need your help.

    Please tell everyone you know to use their account or make one and rate that video to keep it on TOP!

    We need the message out and the links in there are important too so the word is spread from one end of the internet to the other.

    This is just one more thing we can do TODAY to help Leo. Please help him!

    THANKS!

    PS: Spread this message around to your other boards too if you can.

  119. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Ksinde….. I’m in Indiana……. so about 12 to 14 hours

  120. Ksinde. Says:

    not sure if anyone posted this but freedommarch.org posted a request from the Keyes Legal team in need of help. Here is the link, just scroll down a bit and you will see it

    add http and www
    freedommarch.org/Volunteer.html#Chicago_SunTimes

  121. Foxtrot Says:

    I’m back. It wouldn’t be “inmate Obama” it would be “deported Obama”!

    JAC, Baesler’s was bustling, as usual. Lots of great samples!

  122. Cyndi Says:

    Tenacity I was up till about 5:30 this morning alot were on here until 4:00 am, of course I am central time. But there was alot of action last night, all the Leo and Cort stuff callers on plains talking about Bush administraion aware of the situation encouraging Leo to press on that they know he has a case. Then I think there were 3 countries that had coup take overs of their governments by none of than Dems and Liberals and socialists, Canada, Bangkok and I think it was Romania but not for sure. So we could see a pattern of a World Wide Take Over by the Democrats all fought the same way with change fraud and deceit.

  123. Ksinde. Says:

    Cindy, you could do it if you had another adult go with you to drive 1/2 the way.

  124. Foxtrot Says:

    Gee Ksinde . . . was that a hint to me?

  125. Foxtrot Says:

    I have to fly everywhere because of spine problems, otherwise I would grab JAC and we would go to D.C.!

  126. Foxtrot Says:

    Ksinde, you do know that JAC and I live in the same city, right? We didn’t realize it until she said she was living in Indiana. We are only a few minutes from each other!

  127. Cyndi Says:

    Good Stuff in your post Rose thank you!

  128. Ksinde. Says:

    lmao Fox!!! No, I had forgotten you 2 live in the same CITY!?! Small world.

  129. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I rated the video……

    i had already downloaded it yesterday like i do all important youtube video’s and articles and documents…..

  130. Foxtrot Says:

    Well, I know I am going to say some prayers tonight that one of these cases before the Supreme Court will come to fruition. They aren’t lumping them all together are they?

  131. Foxtrot Says:

    Anyone within driving distance of D.C. going to this march?

  132. j.b. Says:

    Thanks, Melissa, I will go now. When I watched it last night it had 214 views, then I refreshed it and the # did not change. I was curious if something was “up” with that. I meant to follow up on it and just forgot. I also meant to post the link on here…….So, extra thanks! Please watch this guys and gals-and vote! It is a new video from Leo-this is an easy way to help!

    So far, my favorite nick for BO is Obamalama Ding Dong!
    Or Oblahblah.

    🙂

  133. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Fox

    leo is hoping that his and cort’s are lumped together….
    as they compliment each other… and Leo admitted cort’s is better written and stronger….

  134. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I like the one for obots…… bobbleheads 🙂

  135. Ksinde. Says:

    melissa just rated the youtube video!

  136. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    WEIRD!!…… i just got this message when I tried to refresh
    ___________

    Goshdarnit!
    Something has gone wrong with our servers. It’s probably Matt’s fault.

    We’ve just been notified of the problem.

    Hopefully this should be fixed ASAP, so kindly reload in a minute and things should be back to normal.

  137. Ksinde. Says:

    Fox, I will be going. I am hoping Gator will be going too.

  138. thinkingmom11 Says:

    or even O-bobblehead’s HA HA

  139. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Voted on the video…

  140. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    in a serious movie role…… I think Densel (sp) Washington would be a good one to play Bam Bam…..

  141. Ksinde. Says:

    I like Tarzan, but i guess that is not politically correct ?!?

  142. j.b. Says:

    The phone ringing and the finger drumming, hat wearing cat crack me right up!

    ***goin back to rate it now……..lemme see how many stars should I give it……?

    🙂

  143. rosettasister Says:

    Please forgive if already posted:

    “Q&A With Obama Birth Certificate Doubters”

    http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/12/02/qanda-with-obama-birth-certificate-doubters/

  144. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    mom,…..

    I remember the original bobbleheads people used to put in their back dashboard when I was a kid……. I thought they were so cool then

  145. j.b. Says:

    jac-refresh where? I know it is taking me for-evah to post here today…….

  146. Ksinde. Says:

    I vote for Erckel (sp) Denzel is too good looking…lol… there is not enough purple lipstick in this univere.

    Ohhhhh just thought. Who played the role of Malcomn X in the malcomn X movie. He so looked like X!!! Hey what would be more perfect!!!

  147. Foxtrot Says:

    I just voted on the video. If Leo says “okay” one more time though . . . . Geeeeeeeeez!

    Great news Ksinde and Gator that you may be going to the march! I am sure we will be there in spirit. I will be thinking of you and tuning into the MSM to see if they cover it. I hope someone sent out a press release letting the news outlets know it will be happening.

    JAC, that pop up is an Obamanut deal. It happens on all blogs that are anti-Obama on occasion. I have gotten it on Larry Sinclair’s website, No Quarters, Citizen Wells, etc. The Obama crazies try to interfere with these type of blogs.

  148. Foxtrot Says:

    I think Denzel played him the first time and Will Smith the second time.

  149. gatorsmom Says:

    I hope to go too!! Just waiting for details to be finalized, either through Freedom March or We Must Be Heard. Can the two groups coordinate?

  150. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    j.b.

    i also have been getting memory line one errors the last couple of days…. doesn’t matter if I am on the laptop or the main computer

  151. Foxtrot Says:

    That’s it!!!!!!!!!! Will Smith playing Obama! He has the same ears and everything!

  152. Ksinde. Says:

    Fox…. okay…lol…so true

  153. Ksinde. Says:

    Gaotr… i was thinking the same thing. I thought after Ed and Joe’s excitement, they would have been all over this today, getting the ball rolling. Well maybe they are waiting for tonight to announce it???

  154. Tenacity Says:

    Cindy & Rose,
    That error message popped up on me a couple of times yesterday when refreshing. Each time I hit refresh again and it went away.

  155. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Ksinde

    lol I suggested… steve ercle last night……

  156. Tenacity Says:

    Troy won the casting award for MO with Aunt Esther.

  157. Ksinde. Says:

    lol… all he would need is some purple lipstick and a black sticker for his face mole and master the eye tick and he will be good to go…lol

  158. Ksinde. Says:

    Tena, Aunt Esher??? who is that

  159. j.b. Says:

    This oughtta be interesting to see how long I last there(youtube) with my username………I did not know (nor did I want to) that I had to “join” just to post a comment. Geesh!
    Put it this way, j.b. was “unavailable”.

  160. Tenacity Says:

    Ks,
    If I am correct it was the Fred Sanford’s Aunt that he was always hiding from and wouldn’t answer the door for. She would say “I know you are in there” and he would be hiding behind a chair. Should would say, “Why won’tchu let me in?” and he would say “’cause you is ugly.”

  161. Tenacity Says:

    Shouldya, wouldya, couldya…I can’t type any better than I can talk…She would say,….

  162. j.b. Says:

    Fox, that’s wha t I was going to say. Look out Rose… they’re coming after you………I hope you have good protection. Dammit, I do not want another virus from those PIGS!

  163. Ksinde. Says:

    Tena…lol…i know exactly who you are talking about…good one!

  164. carribeansoul Says:

    Okay…this just posted on obamacrimes –

    ————————————————————-
    Good News?!?!?!?
    written by Brett, December 02, 2008

    I received this email! This could be good news!!!!???!?!?!!?!?!?

    Brett
    http://www.thelawofattractiongroup.com
    http://www.thelawofattractiongroup.wordpress.com

    ——-

    Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:39:19 -0800
    Subject: Just got this from reliable source
    From:
    To:

    HELLO MEMBERS AND FRIENDS:

    Well like any good story when there is info to get out you need to verify it first, that is what happened last night. Leo Donofrio wanted to check the story before releasing it. Well its been verified and I got permission by Ed, the owner of PRN who moments before talked to Leo. On tonights show (TUESDAY?) at 6cst with Scott Oakland they plan to announce that SCOTUS is going to put a hold on the electors on Friday until all the issues surrounding Barack Obama can be resolved.

    I trust this inforamtion as they had it yesterday but wanted to verify it. Tune in at 6 CST for the show.

    Your fellow patriot,

    Paul
    ————————————————————-

    I don’t want to pass around gossip so I’m ending this with a “I’m just sayin”…………” I don’t see this posted on Leo’s site so I guess at this point and until the 6 pm show, take it with a grain of salt! (just in case though….WOO HOO!!!! :))

  165. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    It’s amazing that one man, without a job, who “got” his house from a terrorist, and who is an illegal in this country–could get so much front page, upfront, prime time media–and not be a serial killer—- hmmmm

  166. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    lol……. I can hear fred in my head saying that……..“’cause you is ugly.”

  167. gatorsmom Says:

    Good point ksinde. Guess I’ll be tuning in to Plains Radio again tonight. 🙂

  168. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    patty

    well serial killer’s do the deed themselves…… BO just makes a phone call

  169. oo12oo Says:

    Hi all,

    Could someone help me pin-point what time it is in the United States of America if it’s 9:17PM in Norway. Would appreciate any help to narrow down the following post kept in “moderation” about an API story having “Bill” Gates as a former spymaster at the CIA instead of “Robert” Gates…obvious mistake I’m sure…TIA.

    oo12oo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    December 2, 2008 at 9:17 pm
    Mr. Korir,

    Please have your staff change the name from “Bill” Gates sir to “Robert” Gates. Yes, both Bill Gates and the CIA have deep pockets sir, but that’s all they have in common; however, US Defense Secretary “Robert” Gates does have much in common with the CIA. Peace, Mr. Korir.

    Al

  170. rosettasister Says:

    “Whole Lot More Bloggin’ Goin’ On”

    http://www.thecommentary.net/supreme-court-docket-update/

    http://pressing4truth.blogspot.com/2008/12/reason-554102-harry-reid-is-waste-of.html

    http://thefreedomfellowship.blogspot.com/2008/12/one-of-most-dangerous-videos-on.html

    http://zachjonesishome.blogspot.com/2008/12/updates-from-citizenwells-and-right.html

    http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/2008/12/02/obama-birth-certificate-rears-its-head-again/

    http://thatsjustbob.blogspot.com/2008/12/full-page-ad-in-chicago-paper.html

    http://www.actuarialoutpost.com/actuarial_discussion_forum/showthread.php?t=154355

  171. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Hey Cyndi just read “PeppermintPatty did you read the post I had made about Grandma? He didn’t just hide her for info on him but for info on the entire banking system and how they are defrauding American’s out of their money.

    lamecherry.blogspot.com/2008/09/dont-come-looking-at-gramama-obamas_28.html ”

    and the answer is no, I haven’t but I’m going there in just a moment. It’s that time of the year for me (paperwork—lots and lots of it for the end of the year, and I’m trying to balance that with life) and I’m missing out on all the “good stuff” here!

    Anyone heard from my friend Al? Tell him I said Hi. God bless him.

  172. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    oo12oo: Well, it’s 4:49 pm est right now, and it’s 10:49 pm Norway time right now— I think that would make the answer to your question 3:19 Est would equal 9:19 Norway

  173. thinkingmom11 Says:

    SOUL – That is indeed interesting news – I know what I will be doing later today- plainsradio.com! Like someone very wise once said “Trust but verify.” I am anxiously awaiting Fridays events…

  174. rosettasister Says:

    carribeansoul Says:
    December 2, 2008 at 9:40 pm

    ——————-

    Hi, soul!

    if you want to avoid moderation post something that looks like this

    (no http no www)

    thelawofattractiongroup.com

    thelawofattractiongroup.wordpress.com

    in case I’m not around which these guys and gals will tell you is a lot of the time, especially at night

    Thanks
    Rosetta

  175. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Pep – get duct tape – your head may explode reading over there! I gave it a shot and read all of it but I have to admit it is all very cryptic and wild!! I didn’t understand all of it – but I know what I did get seemed pretty nefarious.

  176. Ksinde. Says:

    Don’t laugh at my brain f*rt, but 6cst is what in est?

  177. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Oh sh****t Cyndi, I just saw that bank in Kenya! The government is taking it over! Got to get back and finish reading it…

  178. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    ohhhh cherry’s blog……. yep lots and lots of duck tape..

    then there is the other one….. you need a whole tolet bowl over your head…. never could read all of it

  179. carribeansoul Says:

    Yes, I guess I’ll be listening online as well at 6 pm!!

    Thanks Rose…I remembered that as soon as I saw that it was in moderation! I remember seeing that tidbit earlier……..

    Here’s hoping Christmas is coming a little early this year! 🙂

  180. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    ksinde
    7 i believe…….. but I’m in Indiana…. we have central time,…..eastern time,…… cow time and crow time…..depends on where you are standing

  181. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Cindy – and if you are standing behind the cow it might even be “shower” time 🙂

    (sorry – a little farm humor)

  182. Ksinde. Says:

    thanks cindy… yeah i was thinking 7 or 8…guess i will find out.

  183. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    another one of those Goshdarnit! messages

  184. Ksinde. Says:

    i have not gotten one of those yet. does the page go blank with only that message?

  185. Cyndi Says:

    carribeansoul Says:
    December 2, 2008 at 9:40 pm

    Okay…this just posted on obamacrimes –

    ————————————————————-
    Good News?!?!?!?
    written by Brett, December 02, 2008

    I received this email! This could be good news!!!!???!?!?!!?!?!?

    Brett
    http://www.thelawofattractiongroup.com
    http://www.thelawofattractiongroup.wordpress.com

    ——-

    I can’t get to either sites. Darn!!

  186. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    lol……2 funny 🙂

    serious,…… we did have 3 different times zones in Indiana and one that changed back and forth because it didn’t observe daylight savings…..

    2 years ago……we went down to 2……

  187. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Ks: that would be 7est

  188. thinkingmom11 Says:

    JAC – I read the “other” banking article (the one about all the phone number etc) That indeed was mind blowing!

  189. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    ksinde

    blank except for that full message I posted earlier

  190. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Hey JAC, is it that message that says that rosie’s site doesn’t exist anymore? I just got that too– hmmmmm I think it’s “Cherry’s” fault… talk about red listing…

    Now I know…give me my tin in red!

  191. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    mom

    you know it makes me smile when i get called JAC….
    that was my late fathers name…..Jack

  192. Ksinde. Says:

    Totally off topic…but has anyone had their annual “putting up the christmas lights fight” with their light hanging assistant yet?

    lol..does anyone else get into a spat with their spouse when hanging up the lights? or is it just me?

  193. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Hey,…… just for giggles,……. in case something happens, this is how it started with API…… I put my blog link in my name…. bookmark it if you would…..so we can meet up if…….. well if…..

  194. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    JAC, I know what you mean. My late sister’s name was Patty. Pepper was my nickname and hers was peppermint. I adopted it for “sites” in memory of her. We looked so much alike. She was older than I, but now that I’m catching up to the age she was when she passed, I see her face in the mirror more and more often. When I see “Patty” I have to give a little smile.

  195. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    ksinde

    lol,……. hubby has no part of it…… i do it myself….. less trouble that way

  196. thinkingmom11 Says:

    That is cool. It is nice to have little things pop up that reminds us of people we have loved and lost.

    We had some friends who had the most darling little girl named Jacqueline and she would only let “some” people call her Jac. She was so cute. If you didn’t rate high enough with her and called her “Jac” she would smile so cute and say “My name is Jacqueline – only certain people can call me Jac.”

  197. Cyndi Says:

    Just have gotten as far as putting the tree up no argument ensued, it was a peaceful demonstration.

  198. j.b. Says:

    What time is it now?
    j/k
    I just finished voting on the youtube video! OMG! I had to jump through hoops, climb walls, hills, swim across……you get my drift. But, geez that took an hour!
    Anyway, I just want to say, Obamalamadingdong wasn’t “available”……but……………..Obamamamadingdong was!
    🙂
    tick tock, tick tock. Oh, yeah, I voted……….

    Now off to bake some cookies, I guess they’ll have to be “dinner”.
    Oh, btw, some of you have referred to me as “he”.
    Well, I’m not. 🙂

    TTYL~

  199. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Ksinde, My husband is Jewish– it’s quite interesting around our house at Christmas/Chanukah! Last year, I started off with the tree all blue and silver (for Yisrael, of course) then as the season progressed towards Christmas, I ended up adding all of the red/green/gold– it was really beautiful in a tear-in-the-eye sort of way. It was a progression of sorts!

    I try to stick with the white lights, but sometimes I just want to go wild with color. Somehow though, when we light the Menorah every night, those lights outshine everything else.

  200. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    patty

    I lost my sister when she was 18,……that was long ago…. my mother still slips up and calls me Debbie now and then

  201. thinkingmom11 Says:

    My husband blew me away – HE actually got the lights down from the attic and put up on the SAME DAY!! AND without a fight – now I KNOW it’s going to be a good week – that is just some kinda crazy omen!!

  202. j.b. Says:

    moderation, hmmmmmm, not ‘cuz I’m a girl, though, right?

  203. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    Oops I guess that could offend some of my Jewish friends, (and certainly some of my Christian friends and family) but it’s just how I recognize both of our faiths, and our common love for eretz Yisrael, and for The Book…and for our Abba.

  204. j.b. Says:

    j.b. Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.

    December 2, 2008 at 10:24 pm
    What time is it now?
    j/k
    I just finished voting on the youtube video! OMG! I had to jump through hoops, climb walls, hills, swim across……you get my drift. But, geez that took an hour!
    Anyway, I just want to say, Obamalamadingdong wasn’t “available”……but……………..Obamamamadingdong was!

    tick tock, tick tock. Oh, yeah, I voted……….

    Now off to bake some cookies, I guess they’ll have to be “dinner”.
    Oh, btw, some of you have referred to me as “he”.
    Well, I’m not.

    TTYL~

  205. Cyndi Says:

    Wow Mom miracles do happen!

  206. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    JAC, good or bad, there’s nothing like a sister! I miss mine terribly sometimes. She had a wicked sense of humor. I use to own an advertising/graphic agency and she worked with me. She was the “real” artist, I just tried to be like her, but sometimes in working on a project we would just go on and on for hours with some of the funniest stuff. There are things you tell a sister that you never tell anyone else.

    Here’s to sisters.

  207. Tenacity Says:

    Cindy,
    You forgot “Slow time”

  208. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    j.b….
    well i don’t think anyone of us knew for sure…… your posts were kind of unisex..and didn’t give anything away…..lol
    _______
    patty

    you do what is right for you, it really isn’t anyone else’s business…..

    my hubby hates christmas….. bad memories…….. but he tries for me and that is all I can ask…… but I know I drive him nuts with every room decorated even the bathroom…..and 2 christmas trees

  209. Ksinde. Says:

    lol all…No matter how organized I think we are, we still get into it when we put up the outside lights 🙂

    I test the lights inside then when we get them all up and plug it in, there are always lights that are out. So then my hubby says I did not test them, but i did…uugghh

  210. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    patty

    i have one sister I haven’t spoken to for almost 5 years…
    we used to be very close, she even has very little to do with my mother since the “big” blow up ….

    i still love her……. just for my own well being I prefer not to have contact with her

  211. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    I gotta run everyone. I have a long drive ahead of me tonight… still waiting to hear who this Cort is, and also want to read Lame Cherry’s piece on GO a little more.

    Tomorrow!

  212. PeppermintPatty777 Says:

    JAC, some people we have to love from a distance. I have a brother like that. I try to keep the peace with him, and to not allow anything big come between us, but I still have to keep the miles between us.

  213. Ksinde. Says:

    Just checked in at Plains chat… The Rally is on friday at 8 am on the SCOTUS steps. The website for the info is www wemustbeheard.com
    I am going to post this info at blogs and email my friends. If anyone happens to be on a blog maybe you can post it also.

    Also, is anyone in good terms with Sage? maybe she will post it?!?

  214. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Later Pep!

  215. Cyndi Says:

    bye oatty drive safely!

  216. j.b. Says:

    Have a great trip Pepper……be safe!

  217. oo12oo Says:

    Thanks for the time differential, Susan. Safe travels this evening.

    Al

  218. Tenacity Says:

    1 hour and counting

  219. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    tick tock…. lol

    I hope that this week does something…… i think the msm is going to try their best to ignore this story until friday..and only then say something if it looks like they judges are going to grant a stay

  220. Foxtrot Says:

    Sorry folks, I had to make spaghetti, garlic bread, and applesauce cake for dessert. I am done and my belly is full!

    What was the source for the SCOTUS announcement? So help me God, if this info is true and the MSM doesn’t cover it, I will be ticked off!

  221. Foxtrot Says:

    What is the link and what particular show is it on Plains Radio?

  222. j.b. Says:

    I have a hard time believing that info was leaked . I am very suspicious of it-just sayin’. I mean, Ed……? I do not trust him.
    Wait, are you talking about the 4 a.m, phone call, Fox?

  223. Foxtrot Says:

    j.b – No, the Plains radio interview in about an hour.

  224. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Fox – as much as I would like to lend some credibility to the SCOTUS announcement, everything I have seen today leads me to believe it is someones speculation – nothing officail yet

  225. Foxtrot Says:

    So what is happening in an hour that everyone is excited about?

  226. Cyndi Says:

    plainsradio.com/chat.html

    This is where I go you can chat and listen too!

  227. Foxtrot Says:

    Cyndi – thanks for the link. And what is being discussed on Plains Radio in about an hour?

  228. Ksinde. Says:

    Cyndi, where you there earlier? i saw a cyndi there, that is why i ask.

  229. Ksinde. Says:

    fox…when you go there (if u do) log onto the chat and use you Foxtrot name, you don’t need to write anything next to the password box. Just a username.

  230. Cyndi Says:

    Yes thats me.

  231. Ksinde. Says:

    k…now i will know 😉

  232. Cyndi Says:

    I listen surf the web and sometimes chat.
    *******************************

    carribeansoul Says:
    December 2, 2008 at 9:40 pm

    Okay…this just posted on obamacrimes –

    ————————————————————-
    Good News?!?!?!?
    written by Brett, December 02, 2008

    I received this email! This could be good news!!!!???!?!?!!?!?!?

    Brett
    http://www.thelawofattractiongroup.com
    http://www.thelawofattractiongroup.wordpress.com

    ——-

    Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:39:19 -0800
    Subject: Just got this from reliable source
    From:
    To:

    HELLO MEMBERS AND FRIENDS:

    Well like any good story when there is info to get out you need to verify it first, that is what happened last night. Leo Donofrio wanted to check the story before releasing it. Well its been verified and I got permission by Ed, the owner of PRN who moments before talked to Leo. On tonights show (TUESDAY?) at 6cst with Scott Oakland they plan to announce that SCOTUS is going to put a hold on the electors on Friday until all the issues surrounding Barack Obama can be resolved.

    I trust this inforamtion as they had it yesterday but wanted to verify it. Tune in at 6 CST for the show.

    Your fellow patriot,

    Paul

  233. Ksinde. Says:

    Someone in plains chat just said that Fox news just announced Leo’s Dec 5th confrence.

  234. Ksinde. Says:

    Correction…did not mention leo just a case will be heard friday to dtermine if BO is a NBC..and that a similair case was thrown out

  235. jjones35811 Says:

    OK, it’s a start

  236. Ksinde. Says:

    yes…anything at this point is good

  237. gatorsmom Says:

    Is plains radio live right now? Or rerun of last night’s show?

  238. Ksinde. Says:

    rerun until 7 est

  239. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    ok, while fixing dinner.. I was pondering a few things… like bo’s power hungry ways and why he didn’t use them being Senator….
    one thought came to me,….. he voted present most of the time…and when he did vote it usually was only on votes were his really didn’t matter…. high likely-hood of lost or win….. maybe the Senate was just a test drive to see if he could fake his way through….

    he only voted on things that wouldn’t matter if his vote became void.

    this plausible to anyone else

  240. gatorsmom Says:

    thanks ksinde

  241. Ksinde. Says:

    has anyone heard this…plains mentioned it last night> That they are beefing us national Gaurd here in US. The theory is because SCOTUS will stay the electoral vote on the 15th and they fear riot?

  242. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    ksinde,

    i heard that, but I have not heard it anywhere else besides plains, or quotes from plains…..

    I only listen because of Leo,……. Ed is….well……. tin foil comes to mind…and should be taken with plenty of grains of salt

  243. Ksinde. Says:

    cindy, yeah i only saw on Plains…

    I like Ed…yeah he speaks differently then I do, but I think he really does love his country and tries to do what is right.

  244. rosettasister Says:

    New Thread:

    https://rosettasister.wordpress.com/2008/12/02/%e2%80%9ccaptured-gunman-%e2%80%98was-sold-into-terrorism%e2%80%99-by-his-father%e2%80%9d-by-rhys-blakely-in-mumbai/

  245. Cyndi Says:

    Pentagon to Detail Troops to Bolster Domestic Security

    washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/30/AR2008113002217_pf.html

    The Pentagon’s plan calls for three rapid-reaction forces to be ready for emergency response by September 2011. The first 4,700-person unit, built around an active-duty combat brigade based at Fort Stewart, Ga., was available as of Oct. 1, said Gen. Victor E. Renuart Jr., commander of the U.S. Northern Command.
    **************************

    So apparently thats whats on the ground now?

  246. inspirational1 Says:

    Soetoro Divorce Papers Reveal Obama Was Adopted

    Orly Taitz wrote:

    We just got Soetoro divorce papers. Those show that the couple has 2 children, which means that Mr. Soetoro adopted BO and the school record, showing him as Barry Soetoro is correct. In his State bar application he stated that he never had any other names, he committed perjury, since he made the statement under oath. I believe that the application to be a candidate on the ballot was made under oath also and there is an ample evidence of perjury. Maybe an investigation can be started by a local DA or police or sheriff (starting from bottom up) . I called a former LA assistant DA. Maybe you know smbd in law enforcement, their investigation can give us more info, then the courts.Does anybody know anybody in law enforcement that will be willing to help?

    Orly

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    usatodayadforobamarecords.blogspot.com/2008/11/soetoro-divorce-papers-reveal-obama-was.html

  247. amy Says:

    inspirational.. If you have orlys email address, please inform her to contact the Illinois Office of the Republican National Committee to see if they have any contact with a republican attorney or republican private investigator who would be willing to volunteer to help find that information..

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