“The Treatment of Bush Has Been a Disgrace” “What must our enemies be thinking?” By JEFFREY SCOTT SHAPIRO

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President George W. Bush comforts Bronwynne Bassier, right, and her sister Kim after landing in Biloxi, Miss., Friday Sept. 2, 2005, as part of his tour of the Hurricane Katrina-ravaged Gulf Coast. Their family lost everything in the wake of the devastating storm.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122584386627599251.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

Mr. Shapiro is an investigative reporter and lawyer who previously interned with John F. Kerry’s legal team during the presidential election in 2004.

EXCERPT

Just as Americans have gained perspective on how challenging Truman’s presidency was in the wake of World War II, our country will recognize the hardship President Bush faced these past eight years — and how extraordinary it was that he accomplished what he did in the wake of the September 11 attacks.

The treatment President Bush has received from this country is nothing less than a disgrace. The attacks launched against him have been cruel and slanderous, proving to the world what little character and resolve we have. The president is not to blame for all these problems. He never lost faith in America or her people, and has tried his hardest to continue leading our nation during a very difficult time.

Our failure to stand by the one person who continued to stand by us has not gone unnoticed by our enemies. It has shown to the world how disloyal we can be when our president needed loyalty — a shameful display of arrogance and weakness that will haunt this nation long after Mr. Bush has left the White House.

Readers Respond Here:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122610966282910475.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

Here’s an example:

Finally, someone with the guts to stand up for W. I am so tired of the constant and ridiculous blame game. It’s George W. Bush’s fault that you took out a mortgage that you couldn’t afford. It’s George W. Bush’s fault that your bank used lax lending practices and went belly up. It’s George W. Bush’s fault that a Democrat-controlled Congress couldn’t reign in Fannie and Freddie before practically bankrupting the country. Oh, and who can forget that George W. Bush (at once a moron and an evil genius) was the mastermind behind the 9/11 attacks on the WTC and the Pentagon. Somehow all those who hate him seem to forget that his administration has successfully implemented the broadest program to combat AIDS in Africa or that our efforts to combat terror and install democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan are actually working. He gets no credit whatsoever for keeping us safe from further attacks on our soil nor for any good he has done throughout his presidency. It makes me sick to my stomach that the American people are so malleable that they have bought into the notion that George W. Bush is a horrible president simply because he is not a skilled orator or a slick politician. If the loudest actors and musicians say he’s horrible, he must be horrible. I can only hope that history will be kinder to him than his contemporaries.

Denise McDonald

If you’d like to show thanks to President Bush for his hard work of the last 8 years, go to Jeffrey Scott Shapiro’s email link set up for just that at: honor.freedom@gmail.com

See also:

http://drinkthis.typepad.com/shapiro/in-the-media/

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Added: November 12, 2008

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283 Responses to ““The Treatment of Bush Has Been a Disgrace” “What must our enemies be thinking?” By JEFFREY SCOTT SHAPIRO”

  1. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    1st

  2. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I might not of agreed with all of Bush’s decisions. But he is a Man that doesn’t let puplic opinoin sway his choices. He goes with his gut and what he feels is right.
    I think he, through the msm, has become a scapegoat, and he is not one to stand up and try to make himself the hero. He has shouldered the blame of many things that were not his doing.
    We are not privy to all the inside information a President has, so who are we to say that the decisions we consider not a good choice, would stand up to full disclosure if we knew all the facts.
    His number one goal after 9/11 was to keep us safe on our homeland, he has been successful in that goal.

  3. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Agreed, Cindy. I have often wondered if the media’s depiction of Bush as a warmongering, idiot cowboy and there blatant disrespect and childish disregard had more to do with declining world opinion of him (and this country) than anything Bush did himself. I was horrified with the treatment of this president over the last six or seven years. The digusting, hate filled posters, t-shirts, op-eds, internet sites, charactatures and TV rants of our President were shameful. If we do not respect our president WHY on EARTH would anyone else??!

    You know, I tell my children, everyone should have a level of respect for the OFFICE of the President because someday – your guy is going to be in there and you are going to want him treated fairly and with a certain amount of decorum. There is a way to protest a man’s ideas and policies without resorting to ad hominem attacks. I certainly didn’t agree with alot that Bill Clinton did (his best work was succumbing to Newt’s grand ideas!) but I NEVER resorted to the viscious attacks the left has leveled against President Bush. I don’t even agree with everything Bush did (heck, I don’t always agree with myself sometimes!) but I am ashamed how the media and other Bush detractors assaulted the man on every possible level. It IS indeed a disgrace. If the world has a poorer opinion of America now, it is more the fault of the media than President Bush.

    IMHO – history will look upon Mr. Bush more kindly than his contemporaries do – especially given the circumstances he was dealt.

    Sorry so long – I guess I had a lot to get off my chest…

  4. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    mom,

    sadly msm and liberals have the ability to rewrite history. Many school text books are written by liberals with their slanted world views. Pick up your kids history book and you will see it is not the same history we studied in school

  5. thinkingmom11 Says:

    That is one of the reasons I homeschool my kids. I try to use OLD sources (closer to the source) instead of relying on modern interpretations of history.

  6. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Clinton took the credit of the computer age boom, it created jobs that wasn’t available before.
    People consider this the sign of a great President. He was just in office at the right time. If Bush would of been in office he would of been looked at the same. Bush was in office when things started their downfall from such a high. Add that in with 9/11, the war and all the natural disasters; Bush didn’t even have a running chance.

  7. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    lol. sorry that post was a bit rambling

  8. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    If you trace back the roots to many of our troubles, I would have to say they fall in Carter’s lap… We have been trying to fix things every since.

  9. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Mom,
    I think it is great you homeschool your kids….. too many kids just do not learn the solid basics

  10. joy brown Says:

    It has taken four years for the MSM and Democrats to convince the illiterate voters to forget 9/11 even happened and the wars are wrong. George Bush has been a great President, considering what he has faced. He came into office facing a recession because of Clinton’s tax policy. He faced grave concerns for our Countrys safety, brought on by Clinton’s inability to have a strong defense policy. His gravest mistake was trying to unite America by giving into some outlandish demands by the Democrats in Congress. Now the nation is stuck with Usurper that will destroy America. In honor of President Bush, it is time for true Americans to stand up and speak out against this trainwreck that Obama is driving.

  11. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Sometime circumstances overshadow a Presidency – fair or not, sometimes it is to their benefit and sometimes to thier detriment. Clinton got a benefit from the circumstances and Bush had a massive crisis every time he turned around. I feel badly that it seemed like he could never please anybody!!! People wanted “bipartisanship” but unfortunately that just seemed to make both sides more angry with him. (My mom used to say If you are going to go down the middle of the road, you are gonna get hit from both sides – seems she was right!) The cards were stacked against him and he has withstood more disrespect with a kind of dignity that most of us could never muster. I personally cannot wait for him to get back home to Texas – not because I can’t wait for him to be out of office, but because the man deserves a break. Some peace and quiet, some time with tried and true friends and a chance to take a shower and wash off the filth that has been thrown at him for 8 years is just what the doctor ordered.

    May God bless you, George W. Bush and thank you for keeping me, my family and my country safe.

  12. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Cindy – about the rambling posts….yea….guilty here too…sorry

  13. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I gotta run to church…bbl

  14. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    cu l8r mom

  15. calli Says:

    George W Bush has kept us safe since 9/11. He does care about the american people. He is to be commended for his service to our country!! Some would beg to differ, but that’s the way I see!! I voted for him in 2004.I guess I will vote for Sarah Palin in 2012 if she runs!! I do wish President Bush and Laura the very best!! Laura Bush has represented our country with grace and dignity!! She is such a class act!!

  16. Cyndi Says:

    This accurate comment appears on the Amazon review page of Webster Tarpley’s ‘Barrack H. Obama – The Unauthorized Biography’ —

    Obama is a spook. I don’t mean that in the racist sense of the word.

    Obama’s mother was a CIA officer.

    Obama was one of 8 students selected to study sovietology in Columbia’s IR program under Brzezinski, one of the CIA’s top- ranking officers.

    Obama went to work for a CIA front, Business International Corporation (one of whose specialties was recruiting leaders of domestic left-wing organizations as CIA assets).

    Obama ran for state office and his opponent quit the race before the election.

    Obama ran for US Senate, and his opponent quit the race before the election.

    Obama ran for Pres., and his foreign policy chief was, who else, one of the CIA’s top officers, Brzezinski.

    I use the same simple technique that the security forces use to identify intelligence agents and prevent infiltration: I do a background check.

    I’m not saying Obama is good or bad. I’m just pointing out that he is a spook.

    network54.com/Forum/578302/thread/1228021265/last-1228021265/Obama+Is+An+Intel+Spook

  17. the unveiler Says:

    MSM elected BO and the MSM destroyed President Bush. What a disgrace – and we call this ‘freedom of the press’. They should be ashamed of themselves.

  18. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    MSM uses their power to create news not report facts

  19. Cyndi Says:

    If you trace back the roots to many of our troubles, I would have to say they fall in Carter’s lap… We have been trying to fix things every since
    ************************

    Cindy according to this book Barack Obama: The Post Modern Coup – Making of a Manchurian Candidate.

    Barack Obama is a deeply troubled personality, the megalomaniac front man for a postmodern coup by the intelligence agencies, using fake polls, mobs of swarming adolescents, super-rich contributors, and orchestrated media hysteria to short-circuit normal politics and seize power. Obama comes from the orbit of the Ford Foundation, and has never won public office in a contested election. HIS GURU AND CONTROLLER IS ZBIGNIEW BREZINSKI, THE DERANGED REVANCHIST AND RUSSIA-HATER
    WHO DOMINATED THE CATASTROPHIC CARTER PRESIDENCY 30 YEARS AGO. All indications are that Brzezinski recruited Obama at Columbia University a quarter century ago. Trilateral Commission co-founder Brzezinski wants a global showdown with Russia and China far more dangerous for the United States than the Bush-Cheney Iraq adventure. Obama’s economics are pure Skull & Bones/Chicago school austerity and sacrifice for American working families, all designed to bail out the bankrupt Wall Street elitist financiers who own Obama. Obama’s lemming legions and Kool-Aid cult candidacy hearken back to Italy in 1919-1922, and raise the question of postmodern fascism in the United States today. Obama is a recipe for a world tragedy. No American voter can afford to ignore the lessons contained in this book.

  20. Tenacity Says:

    It is the absence of ideas and ethics in the democratic leadership that has resulted in Bush being demonized. The democrats have successfully supplimented obstructionism for responsible management. Their nay-saying campaign effectively duped the wishy-washy elements of independents and even moderate republicans. The wimps on the right have stood by and capitulated. Bush failed to use his veto pen and failed to communicate with the same veracity that the yapping dogs on the left employed. Power corrupted all and irresponsible spending was across the board. Conservatives have been totally disgusted with the lush spending wimps on the right and the failure to secure our southern border. The 2 raps that Bush deserves is spending and immigration…which have resulted in conservatives bashing him as well.

    If you want to see hypocrisy: there has been unlimited disrespect for Bush and now we are supposed to show respect for a usurper. The wimps on the right have already capitulated this. Its our country damn it! Its our Constitution at risk!!! To hell with being polite…its time to rise up, tell it like it is and take a stand!!!!!

  21. Tenacity Says:

    Cyndi,
    Don’t forget his closest adviser, Valerie Jarrett. She was MO’s boss and is a muslim, born in Iran. BO has done a marvelous job of keeping her out of the public eye.

  22. rosettasister Says:

    joy brown Says:
    November 30, 2008 at 4:40 pm

    Welcome, joy!

    You should be able to post at will now.

    If you want to post a link, please no http or www

    Like this:

    rosettasister.wordpress.com

    That way you can avoid moderation, as sometimes it takes a while for me to get to it.

    Rose

  23. rosettasister Says:

    calli Says:
    November 30, 2008 at 4:57 pm

    George W Bush has kept us safe since 9/11. He does care about the american people. He is to be commended for his service to our country!! Some would beg to differ, but that’s the way I see!! I voted for him in 2004.I guess I will vote for Sarah Palin in 2012 if she runs!! I do wish President Bush and Laura the very best!! Laura Bush has represented our country with grace and dignity!! She is such a class act!!

    ————————

    well stated, calli!

    Nice to see you!

    Rose

  24. Cyndi Says:

    Ok I found a post on Greta Wire the other day and it is long. It talked about the grandmother and why Obama wanted her quiet and why he didn’t want people probing her with questions. I really hadn’t heard anything about grandma’s role before today in reading that she was in the CIA. So now I went back and reread the article it makes sence to me. If ya’ll would like I could post it here but it is long.

  25. rosettasister Says:

    I must say, what an interesting discussion, people!

  26. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Tenacity

    Of the two major things with Bush I didn’t agree with:

    “The 2 raps that Bush deserves is spending and immigration”

    The left think we are only bashing BO for the same reason they bashed Bush.. It is not the same at all…
    arguing over policy and politics is COMPLETELY different than fighting for an injustice to the Constitution

  27. Tenacity Says:

    Calli,
    Amen on Laura Bush. A Classier act has not been seen in the White House. Now we have a racist in waiting.

  28. wndawmn666 Says:

    Cyndi Says:
    November 30, 2008 at 5:47 pm

    If you trace back the roots to many of our troubles, I would have to say they fall in Carter’s lap… We have been trying to fix things every since
    ***************************************************************

    Cindy – I have a copy of the Postmodern Coup. It’s a great read.

    Have you ever looked into the Trilateral Commissions, Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) and the Bildeberg Group?

    There is a lot of information out there and it is down right frightening. It took me a few days to snap out of a funk after reading all of their plans for the Globalization of America.

    We the People need to take the power back before it’s too late.

    This stuff is way beyond the selection of Obama. These shady bankers have had their hands in our politics for far too long.

    Isn’t it curious that Presidents who have dared to consider ‘other’ forms of currency have been assassinated? Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley and Kennedy.

  29. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    My take on Palin:

    1. She is a lady who isn’t afraid to speak her mind or thinks she has to be politically correct.
    2. She had humble beginnings and a solid sense of family.
    3. She is a fast learner, she knows anything and everything about Alaska.. she will do the same with foriegn policy and the in’s and out of DC. In that I have confidence.
    4. She will turn spending around in DC if given chance.
    5. She will encourage companies to use resourses to help ween ourselves from foriegn oil.
    6. She can truly prepresent us, because she is one of us…… and if she did have to make an unpolular decision, you wouldn’t be guessing why, because she would tell you.

    etc. etc. etc

  30. Cyndi Says:

    Ok here it is just as I copied from the post at Gretawire-
    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    Someone posted this the other day. It is long, but it addresses a lot of comments made here earlier. Please copy and share. This info is informative and raises questions:
    SORRY I WENT AWAY FROM THE BLOG FOR A WHILE AND I HAD A LOT OF INTEREST IN THIS ARTICLE SO I AM REPOSTING IT AND ADDING SOME MORE COMMENTS HERE:
    I HAVE LOOKED INTO THE HISTORY OF THE BANK OF HAWAII AND THE BANK OF INDONESIA HISTORIES AND THE INFO BELOW IS TRUE!
    LOOKS LIKE THE REAL REASON WHY OBAMA DID NOT PUT ANY TYPE OF SPOT LIGHT ON HIS GRANDMOTHER!
    AUCHI NOW HAS A HUGE AMOUNT OF STOCK IN THE COMPANY THAT OWNS BANK OF HAWAII
    AUCHI IS THE ONE THAT LOANED TONY REZKO MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND HE WAS ALSO THE ONE THAT LOANED HIM 3 MILLION JUST RIGHT BEFORE OBAMA BOUGHT HIS HOUSE AND REZKO BOUGHT THE ADJOINING PROPERTY.
    OBAMA CLAIMS HE DID NOT EVEN REMEMBER MEETING AUCHI AT A DINNER PARTY GIVEN BY REZKO BUT THIS INFO BELOW SHOWS THAT MAYBE IT WAS OBAMA THAT INTRODUCED AUCHI TO REZKO IN THE FIRST PLACE!
    THIS IS MAJOR STUFF PEOPLE

    READ THIS ARTICLE!

    Don’t come looking at Gramama Obama’s Bank
    Tucked away on the 10th floor of South Beretania apartments in Honolulu, Hawaii is quite a woman, the one engineered profile online suggests for Madelyn Lee Payne Dunham, the grandmother who raised Barack Hussein Obama when he was abandoned by his mother, but for the wonder woman profile which was created online, the one question jumps out that no one has noticed:
    If Madelyn Dunham was thee woman as her profile states who paved the way for all women in banking, thee woman who raised Barack Obama, then why is Barack Obama running away from this woman, why is she hiding in an apartment in Hawaii, when her presence would have gotten her the entire Hillary Clinton feminist vote as we are told in her profile that Grandma Dunham was better than the invention of the wheel for women?
    I have stumbled across the answer in this as it is so old that even the internet servers are being scrubbed of the stories which lead to Madelyn Dunham.
    The first red light which went off for Grandma Dunham was when I was attempting a profile search which all living people have. “Someone” has scrubbed Madelyn Dunham’s profile in spots
    and is listing her as 40 years younger.
    Mr. Obama’s sister, Mya, is listed as a relative, but not one Barack Obama is listed.
    As an example if one uses as a control, Henry Kissinger, who is oft times blamed for all things globalist and who should be one person who could have his profile information scrubbed, one can find Dr. Kissinger listed with family and associates.
    So if Doc Kissinger is in the system, why is Madelyn Dunham, the paver of banking ways for women and raiser of messiah not listed?
    I believe the key starts out with Mrs. Dunham’s choice of employment at Bankho, or the Bank of Hawaii starting in 1960 where she was elevated after 10 years in 1970 as Vice President.
    That is quite a meteoric rise from bank teller to executive in that short of period of time.
    Mrs. Dunham’s expertise was in Escrow Accounts which are used as 3rd party money transfer accounts between two people who basically do not trust each other and still need a deal to be done.

    It was during this period that the Democratic machine in Hawaii was killing bank examiner bills, because at the same time the two largest banks in Hawaii were making a huge push into the Pacific Rim from 1963 to 1970.

    You thought opening doors to China began with Kissinger and Nixon? Nope someone was paving that way a decade before and 30 years before Bush 41 set upon what is termed his policy to modernize China.

    Bank of Hawaii is listed as the largest bank in Hawaii of that period and expanded into the Pacific Rim buying up assets during the Vietnam War.

    It is into this which Madelyn Dunham was being promoted as an expert in money transfers for her entire career and this is why she is being hidden away and planted stories are abounding about old Gram banking leader and Stanley Ann, anthropologist, and no one is mentioning what these two women were setting up in an international Marxist or globalist scheme which has yet to come to fruition, until their Barack hits the stage.

    On March 31, 1980, Jimmy Carter enacted the Depository Instituions Deregulation and Monetary Control Act of 1980 which would phase out all savings rate ceilings on consumer accounts and deregulated the banking industry.

    People have heard nonstop it was Reagan or Bush who started all of this deregulation when the fact is comrade Carter initiated what was to become the biggest economic rape of the world. Rush Limbaugh has invested a great deal of time noting Jimmy Carter and his housing act started this housing mess, but it was the banking rape which Carter set into place which America is being rocked by now.

    I ask people to keep with this for the punchline as the situation is laid out, because you will not believe what the Obama women were setting up for the globalists.

    Mrs. Dunham would retire in 1986 from the escrow fund of Bankoh. Her daughter who was an anthropoligist would then go into, banking.
    Huh? You might question. Yes she went into banking in Indonesia setting up microfinance for poor women there.

    What on earth is microfinance?

    Ever heard of a progressive changing their name to a liberal? That is exactly what microfinance is. Microfinance is in the late 1980’s, a savings and loan for destitute 3rd world types.
    If people remember history in BCCI and other savings and loans raping American small investors in the Bank of Coccaine and Crime International, then you know what Stanley Ann Dunham has now set up as the largest loan system to a billion people in Indonesia.

    Microfinance is the term no one has yet figured out which is the next derivative as the globalist cartels have set this monster up in every impoverished nation in the world.

    Getting ahead of the story, the Rothschilds are currently in India providing microfinance for poor Indian farmers with the money being crop seed which fails and they can not repay. The end result is the Rothschild cartel owning Indian farmland while Indian farmers commit suicide.
    The cartel though is enjoying record exports of tainted grain grown on poisonous ground being sold around the world, including to Americans.

    So Gram Dunham leaves the bank running the new world escrow service forming and Stanley Ann is setting up savings and loans in the 3rd world as she happens to find her way to New York too running the World Women’s Banking created the United Nations in 29 poverty nations around the world.

    Follow this now please, World Women’s Banking was brainchild of Stichting INGKA Foundation of the Netherlands. INGKA owns an international furniture outlet chain, but holds it’s assets in a $36 billion dollar account making it the richest on earth.

    For a modern tax rape in the United States, this is exactly what Bill Gates and Warren Buffet are doing as they keep their assests out of tax coffers while preying on consumers. I ask you to remember that Buffet has billion dollar foundations for each child and raped over 31 billion dollars out of the markets which people lost in the last months.

    This is what the Dunham women were setting up for the 3rd world and is about to be sprung.

    Now we come to Bank of Hawaii dumping huge amounts of money into Asian markets in a money transfer in the 1990’s. Of course that money loaned did not stay in Asia in the least, it instead was part of the Bill Clinton Indonesian, yes Indonesia again, Riaydi and Lippo Group money funneling campaign funds into the Clinton reelection bid with Al Gore.

    What people missed in this was the money from the Chinese was not just about bribes to the Clintons. The Indonesians, Chinese and Clinton globalists were after the real prize of the New York Stock Exchange offering up the communist Chinese Xiamen International Bank to both the Hang Seng and New York.

    It would be Hawaii’s Democratic machine which would use billions of dollars in Kamaehameha School funds with Bishop Estate to underwrite the public offering of Xiamen.

    This should be sounding familiar in the same corruption engulfing Illinois in funds being embezzled there and Barack Obama and Joe Biden’s names popping up in funds allotted to them.
    Do you remember what William Ayers was after in his Chicago school initiatives was federal funds and Tony Rezko was playing with Chicago real estate making slums for blacks.

    Are you seeing a Marxist pattern here in moving money around in public funds, real estate, poor people in housing and massive market collapse?

    So the money went out of Hawaii while the Chinagate money came into the mainland. Soon enough the Asians who dumped their excess in the American markets had their economies tanked.

    Hawaiian investors lost record sums, but that means the cartels gained billions.

    Bush 41 would send in the FBI to Hawaii for all this Democratic coruption, but being replaced by Bill Clinton, it would be Webster Hubbell number 3 at Justice under Janet Reno would shut down the investigation.

    In order to cover up the failure of half of Hawaii’s industrial banks in this nation rape, Bill Clinton appointed Donna Tanuoe who had absolutely no banking experience as head of the FDIC.
    She would hold that position until 2001 and is currently now part of the executive committee of, the Bank of Hawaii, our old escrow account operative Madelyn Dunham’s place of vocation.

    This massive money laundering scheme was set up off the mainland and collapsed ruining Hawaiians was not even covered by the press no more than if it was in another nation. Some in the press probably think Hawaii is another nation.

    Donna Tanuoe emerged in covering up the massive collapse of Hawaiian banking in the 1983 to 1985 period of the last years of Madelyn Dunham employment. She set the stage in the FDIC for what America is currently imploding in now.

    John McCain and Republican banking committee members tried in Senate Bill 190 to reign this in in 2005, but were stopped by Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

    If people want to know a really small world, behold Bank of Hawaii is now run by a flunky who covered up the original nation rape where Mrs. Dunham worked and the other bank in Hawaii just happened to be purchased by BNP Paribas SA, currently owned by Nadhmi Auchi of Saddam Hussein oil for food bribery to the Clintons and the world socialists, with money laundering, who just happened to be in Chicago buying up Tony Rezko’s real estate and shaking hands with Barack Hussein Obama.

    Toss in Marc Rich who was the genius behind BCCI funding and Bill Clinton’s pardon, and one has the entire banking fraud scheme of the past 30 years now engulfing the world.

    Now do you perhaps understand why one planted story on Madelyn Dunham as wonder woman is being circulated and why Barack Obama is running from this woman and not featuring her as she should be a campaign asset for the female vote in America?

    If not let us enter the future of an Obama age, when the term “risky microfinance” starts cropping up. I ask you to think about 1 billion Indonesian, Indian, Bangladeshi, African, ok if we go the full route, number it 2 billion women all in microfinance.

    Suppose they have on average 1000 dollar loans which would talley 2 trillion dollars, plus the sewing machines, materials, grains etc… all these poor people were sold like the Indian farmers.
    That would make a 4 trillion dollar profit already from Stanley Ann Dunham’s microfinance “helping the poor”.

    Now crash that debt system just like the Obama backers crashed the United States derivative markets to assist him. Imagine forclosing on 2 billion people’s 40 acre farms just like the Rothschilds are accomplishing in India.

    Does that not sound like a pretty good scheme where you sold poor people goods you made, put them into debt, crash the system and then take their collateral which you as a cartel can now exploit in farming making the slaves buy food from their own land.

    Now do you understand why Barack Obama and his syndicate have targetted specific stories leading everyone away from Grandmama Obama and Mama Obama? In these women’s actions was the genisis of financial diaster which is the ghost of Christmas past, Christmas present and Christmas future.

    The last things Barack Obama wants is anyone sniffing around his family’s Hawaiian banking past or his family’s Indonesian banking past as it leads right into Chicago banking and New York finance collapse that Barack Obama has a part in.

    Nobody has put this scheme together and is this blog’s exclusive again. The Congress isn’t going to mention this. The pundits will not touch this, so maybe the remainder 299 million Americans and those speaking Spanish had better start chatting about this so the Congress and pundits will have to.

    Please copy and share, share, share.

  31. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    wnw….. no I haven’t read either

    yes agreed, we need for the power to shift back to “we the people..”

  32. sliderblaze Says:

    Cyndi, who posted that?

  33. wndawmn666 Says:

    Cyndi Says:
    November 30, 2008 at 6:33 pm

    Ok here it is just as I copied from the post at Gretawire-
    ****************************************************8

    Cyndi:

    If you have some time check these articles out. The shady connections are endless.

    This article is from someone doing ancestry searches on Stanley Ann Dunham:

    mitchell-langbert.blogspot.com/2008/11/contrairimairi-raises-baffling.html

    These other two have a ton of background info as well:

    proliberty.com/observer/20080921.htm

    web.mac.com/donnicoloff/directlightproductions.com/Articles/Entries/2008/9/26_The_Three_Stooges_go_to_Washington%3A_Part_4Barack_Hussein_Obama%2C_Jr.%3A_The_Real_Story.html

  34. wndawmn666 Says:

    sorry about the long link in the last post.

  35. rosettasister Says:

    Found at Free Republic:

    “Barack Obama would not qualify for High Security Clearance due to prior admitted drug use”

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2140004/posts

    To: autumnraine

    Obama would be prohibited from gaining security clearance just for the close associations he’s had with terrorists.

    Then, there this felony fraud change coming down the pike that would also bar him.

    36 posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 1:32:25 PM by Polarik

  36. rosettasister Says:

    Whole Lotta Bloggin’ Goin’ On:

    http://zachjonesishome.blogspot.com/2008/11/could-obamas-new-eye-twitch-come-from.html

    http://dwebsters.blogspot.com/2008/11/is-seal-smoking-gun.html

    http://usatodayadforobamarecords.blogspot.com/2008/11/wake-up-america-obama-awol-birth.html

    http://westernfrontamerica.com/2008/11/30/country-survive/

    http://facta-non-verba.blogspot.com/2008/11/taking-anti-war-protests-too-far.html
    “Taking Anti-War Protests Too Far: Village Mothers Kill Every Baby Boy Born for Ten Years So There Will Be No Men Left To Continue Tribal Warfare”

    http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=399

  37. Cyndi Says:

    Slider I found it at Gretawire in the open blog. The person that posted this said “SORRY I WENT AWAY FROM THE BLOG FOR A WHILE AND I HAD A LOT OF INTEREST IN THIS ARTICLE SO I AM REPOSTING IT AND ADDING SOME MORE COMMENTS HERE” The person didn’t say where it came from. This person said just pass it along. I will try and find who wrote the article. But notice how Carter is in the article quite a bit. And Brezenski was suppose to be the mastermind of this. And there was a youtube video about brezenski and obama caught lying about their ties. It appears they are doing to America what they did to the Indonesian people.

  38. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Repost from last night
    ___________________
    BO would have to step down if it was proven he never registered for the SSR.

    • Men who do not register could be prosecuted and, if convicted, fined up to $250,000 and/or serve up to five years in prison. In addition, men who fail to register with Selective Service before turning age 26, even if not prosecuted, will become ineligible for:

    • Student Financial Aid — including Pell Grants, College Work Study, Guaranteed Student/Plus Loans, and National Direct Student Loans.

    • U.S. Citizenship — if the man first arrived in the U.S. before his 26th birthday.

    • Federal Job Training — The Job Training Partnership Act (JTPA) offers programs that can train young men for jobs in auto mechanics and other skills. This program is only open to those men who register with Selective Service.

    • Federal Jobs — men born after December 31, 1959 must be registered to be eligible for jobs in the Executive Branch* of the Federal government and the U.S. Postal Service.

    In addition, several states have added additional penalties for those who fail to register.

    * Last time I checked, the President is a member of the Executive Branch, and Obama was definitely born after 12/31/1959. If that isn’t his signature, he’s NOT ELIGIBLE!

    ___________________
    Who would be the one to contact to push the issue? to have it fully investigated?

  39. Cyndi Says:

    Ok I took the first line of the article (Don’t come looking at Gramama Obama’s Bank) and did a search. And clicked on the first one that appeared.

    lamecherry.blogspot.com/2008/09/dont-come-looking-at-gramama-obamas_28.html

  40. rosettasister Says:

    “Shocker: Why Obama WILL NOT Be President in January”

    http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=400

    Much easier on the eyes here:

    http://www.earthfrisk.com/blog/?p=134

  41. Cyndi Says:

    Sorry everyone I am kinda slow reading and posting. I will look into all the sites that wndawmn and Rosetta posted. And I am sorry about not posting about President Bush, I was just so busy with this other article, and I agree with all of you, the poor guy is getting a bum wrap. Noone truly recognizes how stressful and Important his job is. He truly has the world’s lives in his hands and YES he has kept us safe, I will always be greatful. But I have to go eat with my family now. I hope you all have a great day.

  42. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Everyone knows that the Chicago Trib will be having a full page ad Dec 1 and Dec 3rd..

    I wish I could of thought of this a week ago. gggrrrrr

    why doesn’t everyone get 10 or so local people together and post a full or half page in each local paper…..Most local papers wouldn’t cost much and it would raise puplic awareness……

  43. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    We keep waiting on msm and others to get the dirty work done….. why not take the step and do something ourselves……..

    The best thing to do is to get media attention, BO can’t hide from millions of people asking questions….

  44. Troy Says:

    LOOK AT THIS

    http //

    obambi.wordpress.com/2008/11/30/nancy-pelosi-needs-to-be-arrested/

  45. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Troy I can’t bring up the pdf’s for some reason

  46. Chris W Says:

    So you all want Obama imprisoned or deported based on unproven rumors, but Bush is a saint even though he has been a driving force at destroying this country and making our global standing lower than whale s@$t. The division in this country will surely be the final nail in the coffin. People are literally praying that our new President fails. People are praying that this country fails so they can say “see, I told you”. Cut off the nose to spite the face. Sounds like a good plan. I would have rather seen Ron Paul take office, but I refuse to wish failure on our new President because of this. Maybe he will get killed and you can all celebrate. You all are a tough crowd. Obama can only fail in your eyes. You all won’t allow him any other option. I am not an Obot. I voted for Obama because he was a better choice than McCain in my own personal opinion. I understand that people think McCain would be a better President. I respect that. Either way we have a new President who will not be receiving respect or support from many Americans. This is the kind of momentum and progress that this country deserves. I would have voted Republican ( I recently switched to Democrat) this year, but I refuse to support a party that states that this country’s failures can only be blamed on Democrats. I come from a family that takes responsibility even if it is only half warranted. Democrats are not the only ones responsible for the deteriorating economy. Don’t attack me or call me a robot for voicing my opinion. If I choose to stand behind this country’s new President, that does not make me a koolaid drinker. It makes me a Patriot. Happy Holidays everyone. Happy Holidays, Sister.

  47. rosettasister Says:

    Troy Says:
    November 30, 2008 at 8:50 pm
    ———————————–

    Thanks, Troy!

    As far as I can tell this is monique’s most recent post:

    http://moniquemonicat.wordpress.com/2008/11/10/%e2%80%a2-latest-update-on-obama-birth-certificate-case/

    Very useful lists of resources.

  48. rosettasister Says:

    Chris W Says:
    November 30, 2008 at 9:40 pm

    “Happy Holidays everyone. Happy Holidays, Sister.”

    ———————–

    Thanks, Chris!

    Happy Holidays to you as well.

    Rosetta

  49. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Chris – methinks you have gone off on us without knowing anything about us. Plenty of us have issues with Bush and we know he is no saint. In addition, we don’t wish Obama to be killed or harmed and we certainly would not celebrate if something like that were to happen and I am OFFENDED that you even posted something like that. What a reactionary jerk you sound like. I have posted here before that I HOPE he is a successful president – wildly successful would be even better. However given his (meager) record, I do not think it is likely that he will advance an agenda that will better this country. I will be willing to give him a chance IF HE IS EVEN ELIGIBLE to be president. But I am not taking my eyes off of him for a minute if he gets in to office. You know, we have no problem discussing issues with people with different points of view and if you had been following us for a while you would know that we are usually respectful about it, too. So, in the future, keep your insults, insinuation and accusations to yourself. We are none of the things you have assumed us to be. You may be a patriot, but supporting a man who refuses to honor the very Constitution he is to swear to defend, tells me you are naive and foolish, too. Our Constitution is bigger than any one man. Even if that man is Barack Obama.

  50. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Oh, and Chris…Merry Christmas.

  51. Chris W Says:

    I did not mean to offend you, thinkingmom11. He is obviously eligible for the Presidency. Even if all you ever see is his COLB, that is still a legal document that acts as required proof of citizenship. I didn’t go off on anyone at this site. I was merely stating my opinion. Please do not take offense. I am a thinkingdad. I respect all mothers. I would be lost without mine, even though she refuses to speak to me because I voted for Obama.

  52. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Chris W

    You refuse to support a party that states that this country’s failures can only be blamed on Democrats.
    _________

    Sorry but wasn’t Bo always blaming everything on Bush and Republicans?

  53. Chris W Says:

    Thank you, Thinkingmom, and Merry Christmas to you and yours. We are hoping to have a white Christmas in my neck of the woods. We haven’t had a good snow since 2006. We are close to a drought now. In 2006 we had a 19 foot snowpack at this time. Are ski resorts are not even open yet this year.

  54. Chris W Says:

    “Sorry but wasn’t Bo always blaming everything on Bush and Republicans?”

    Of course he was. It proved to be remarkable winning strategy. Obama is a politician. I do not hide from this fact. I simply feel that we should at least give the future Commander in Chief of this country his fair shot. I gave Bush a fair shot when I voted for him and supported him. My feelings have since changed. That may also happen with Obama, but it remains to be seen.

  55. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Sorry Chris but I think accusing us of wishing Obama dead and celebrating if that were to happen is a little over the top, and I was offended. Those are not light accusations you leveled at us. Maybe you should have THOUGHT your post through before you submitted it – that was completely irresponsible.

    I don’t see that it is obvious that he is eligible – we have been discussing this here for weeks and there has been a lot of research into what a natural born citizen is. I DON”T think that someone who has held dual citizenship for nearly half of his life would be considered natural born. I will not look for you to explain it to me. I will wait for the Supreme Court, thanks.

    Your mom is probably a wise person and you know what they say – You shoulda listened to your mother.

  56. Chris W Says:

    Please reread my post. I accused you of no such thing.

  57. Chris W Says:

    “Maybe he will get killed and you can all celebrate.”

    That is a suggestion, not an accusation.

  58. Chris W Says:

    Merry Christmas, everyone. I didn’t mean to rile anybody up. Sorry if I did. I will take my leave now and go back to my rock-LOL

    Chris W.

  59. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Chris W.

    How can you support a man who refuses to release

    Original, vault copy birth certificate — Not released
    Certificate of Live Birth — Released — Counterfeit
    Obama/Dunham marriage license — Not released
    Soetoro/Dunham marriage license — Not released
    Soetoro adoption records — Not released
    Fransiskus Assisi School School application — Released
    Punahou School records — Not released
    Selective Service Registration — Released — Counterfeit
    Occidental College records — Not released
    Passport (Pakistan) — Not released
    Columbia College records — Not released
    Columbia thesis — Not released
    Harvard College records — Not released
    Harvard Law Review articles — None (maybe 1, unsigned?)
    Baptism certificate — None
    Medical records — Not released
    Illinois State Senate records — None
    Illinois State Senate schedule — Lost
    Law practice client list — Not released only release client list of whole firm
    University of Chicago scholarly articles — None

    Did you know that there will be a full page ad Dec 1st and 3rd in the Chicago Trib, asking for BO’s records? Did you know there is a Graphics expert that proved the Birth Document on Bo’s site is a fake? It was done with two certificates and not one original? How about the selective service registration? How could it be stamped the day before it is signed? The post mark is not correct for 1981?
    nine different points of error that it could not of been submitted in 1981 as claimed. I won’t even mention the signature

  60. Chris W Says:

    None of those records mean anything to me. He was elected as our next President. I could care as much about his college records as I did Bush’s, Clinton’s, and Carter’s.

  61. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Chris

    would those college records mean something if it showed he was supported those years by foriegn aid?

  62. Chris W Says:

    A graphics expert did NOT prove anything. A graphics expert will not be the person who proves any of this. Unless he is in direct association with the company that produces these documents, he is not an expert on that particular matter.

  63. Chris W Says:

    Why would it bother me if he was supported by foreign aid?

  64. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Chris

    you will believe what you want to believe on the BC.

    BUT how can you argue that OB ws not a dual citizen? when he himself had it on his own website….. dual citizenship means he is not natural born…. so not eligible to be President

  65. Chris W Says:

    That remains to be seen. If he obviously is not eligible, why did none of the extremely powerful people running against him point this out? Or even mention it?

  66. Chris W Says:

    The Supreme Court will be the deciding factor. How do you think they will vote? I am just curious.

  67. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Chris.

    foreign aid = foreign personal debt owed
    allegiance to another country

  68. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Chris – maybe it wasn’t a direct accusation but it certainly was an insinuation. The whole tone of your post came across and defensive and accusatory. I am not impressed by your arguement that what you said was a suggestion and not an accusation any more than I was impressed with “depends on what the definition of “is” is.” Semantics.

    Sorry I got riled up but I have a lot of respect for the people on here and what you posted about your “interpretation” or “suggestion of what we represent was completely off base and it is in my nature to defend what I care about.

  69. Chris W Says:

    “allegiance to another country”

    Like Saudi Arabia or Israel?

  70. Chris W Says:

    Thinkingmom. Do not be upset. My tone was off and it was childish of me. I am not the worst person you will see blogging today. I apologize.

  71. thinkingmom11 Says:

    If Obama received financial aid as an international student when he (as he claims he is now) was actually a US citizen then that was FRAUD. That, to me, IS a big deal.

  72. Chris W Says:

    Thinkingmom. Do not be upset. My tone was off and it was childish of me. I am not the worst person you will see blogging today. I apologize.

    “it is in my nature to defend what I care about.”

    That is a more than honorable trait that I can certainly respect and appreciate.

  73. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Chris

    To be honest I have my fingers crossed about the Supreme Court.
    It is a step forward they are reviewing the case, (now two) before them but it is a lose/lose situation for the most part… civic unrest either way.
    I think if there is a loop pole to get out of deciding they will.

    If you spend time on this site you will find that we are a mixture, Liberals, Dems and Replicans…. we came together because it became a matter of country over party.

  74. Chris W Says:

    “If Obama received financial aid as an international student when he (as he claims he is now) was actually a US citizen then that was FRAUD. That, to me, IS a big deal.”

    You make a good point. This is something that has not been proven and this country does not convict on the basis of rumor.

  75. Chris W Says:

    I totally understand what you mean by “lose lose situation” in regards to the decision of the Supreme Court. We will see I guess. It should be interesting.

  76. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Chris

    It can only be a rumor because he refuses to release information about himself….. He has spent $500,000 protecting his BC….. Can you tell me Why?

  77. Chris W Says:

    justanamericancindy. What do you think about the whole API thing. Do you think the tape exists?

  78. Chris W Says:

    I cannot tell you why. I suspect it is for the same reasons any other politician hides things. They have something to hide. Obama probably does have something to hide, but I do not think it is his citizenship. IMHO

  79. Chris W Says:

    You are all much faster typers than I am. I am jealous. LOL

  80. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Chris

    API……..When I first heard about it I was on the fence… I watched and listened…. “hoped” there was something to it…. but I never seen proof either way….. Most of the good people here came from there…We are guilty of peeking now and then,….. but we don’t think anything will be released.

  81. Chris W Says:

    I have to write about 2000 words a week for my school, but I can’t type fast and my grammar is less than desirable.

  82. thinkingmom11 Says:

    no worries, Chris. That trait, though, is why I am persuing this issue.

    The COLB issued is actually NOT acceptable ID for many things – even in the State of Hawaii. I believe there was a link posted upthread that shows that for certain Official Hawaiian business/housing financing the COLB is NOT sufficient proof of Hawaiin birth and that appplicants should acquire their official vault certificate to expedite the application process. I would hope that you would agree that if HAWAIIAN officials require more proof than a COLB to prove state citizenship for financing issues then some guy trying to be POTUS should provide better proof too.

    Again, I am not sure it matters AT ALL WHERE he was born. There may be a bigger arguement as to him not being a natural-born citizen due to his father’s allegiance and to his own dual citizenship at birth and beyond.

  83. Chris W Says:

    I have only paid so much attention to the whole API scenario. I have a feeling there are no tapes.

  84. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I try to use facts…… $500,000 was a figure I seen today….. I have not seen actual data…….

  85. Chris W Says:

    Thanks for the good discussion, everyone. I really did not mean to be a jerk with the assassination stuff. All of this has a lot of people on end. It is nerve rattling.

  86. Melissa Says:

    Chris W Says:
    November 30, 2008 at 10:22 pm

    The Supreme Court will be the deciding factor. How do you think they will vote? I am just curious.
    *****************************

    Hi Chris,

    I know this wasn’t directed at me but I’d like to share my opinion.

    If the Supreme Court decides anything it will be the original intent of the Framers when they wrote the words Natural Born citizen. It is not up to them to inject their personal opinions on Barack Obama’s eligibility or citizenships.

    Chris, when the Framers wrote that one must be a natural born citizen to serve as President do you believe that included someone that was born with dual citizenships?

    Please remember, this is about citizenship upon BIRTH. Either one is born a natural born citizen or one is not. Can one that is born with two citizenships be a natural born citizen?

    Again, please note, this is about the original intent of the Framers when they wrote the words. This is not about what you or I think they mean today. This is not about what the SCOTUS thinks they mean today.

    Here is some interesting info about our Constitution and its Amendments:

    Since the first 10 Amendments were codified in 1791, the US has made additions or clarifications to the Constitution, via Amendment, 17 times. Changing Article II, Section 1, Clause 5, to read “foreign born” or “dual citizen” has not been one of them.

    Amendments proposing to end the Constitutional requirement of “Natural Born Citizen” have been introduced in Congress subcommittee 26 times since the 1870s, only to have died in subcommittee 26 times.

    In a USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup Poll (11/19/2004 through 11/21/2004), 31% favored an amendment to change the “Natural Born Citizen” requirement. 67% of those polled opposed it.

  87. Chris W Says:

    Thanks for always letting me post here, Sister. Pete and I would sure like to see you over at The Regulator sometime. You are more than welcomed there.

  88. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Chris – what we are doing here is asking questions, not convicting the guy. We are asking questions most of which should have simple answers/solutions.

    Birth Certificate – just pony it up – and it’s over.
    College Transcripts – just pony it up.

    There are so many other pretty standard records that we just want to see so we have an idea of who Barack Obama is! He is far from the most transparent candidate we’ve seen.

  89. Chris W Says:

    Thanks for the info, Melissa. I have to work in small doses with this whole citizenship business. It can get rather confusing.

  90. Chris W Says:

    Birth Certificate – just pony it up – and it’s over.
    College Transcripts – just pony it up.
    =================================

    I can certainly stand by that. I am a supporter of his and I would like to see this all come to some sort of conclusion.

  91. joy brown Says:

    To Rosetta, you have a great blog.  To Chris W. Obama has stated so many things that he will do and the consequence’s will be the destruction of America.  I truly believe you did drink the kool aid Obama was passing out.  The USA cannot protect herself with a weakened Military.  The scale back of nuclear weapons leaves our country open for attacks.  These are two of the things the one said he would do.  The threat he made of charging the coal company’s exorbitant fees  and put them out of business not only affects the economy with millions of job loses but extremely high cost for heating homes and fuel for our cars.  I voted for George Bush and am proud of it.  there were things I disagreed with him on but was willing to give him the benefit  considering what was laid on his shoulders.  I do not agree with Obama on anything he’s said and I can’t understand the people that voted for him.  Most voted because they chose not to investigate the man, therefore I question your being a Patriot.  However, I wish you and your family a merry Christmas and hope you enjoy, because your president elect does not celebrate, the birthday of Christ. Christmas

  92. Chris W Says:

    I gotta get back to work. Thank you for the good discussion, ladies.

    I hope you all have a great Sunday. It is my Monday at work. *snifs*

  93. Chris W Says:

    I am not a koolaid drinker or an alcohol drinker, Joy. I voted for who I feel is the better candidate. Can you respect that?

  94. Chris W Says:

    “Obama has stated so many things that he will do and the consequence’s will be the destruction of America.”

    I think that is overly dramatic. IMHO

    He is a liberal Democrat=yes. Destructor of America = pretty far fetched

  95. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Does anyone else here think that Obama’s cabiney nominees are “less than brilliant?” Janet Napolitano – Homeland Security – there isn’t much proof that she has succeeded in securing her own homeland of Arizona from the invasion of illegals – is there? And isn’t the Hilary Nomination Unconstitutional? And I think Eric Holder is actually Janet Reno after her sex change operation – isn’t he?

    Just kidding – but seriously – couldn’t he do a little better than these schmoos?

  96. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Cindy – you still out there?

  97. rovingpatrol Says:

    I compared Obama to Hitler once and got jumped on. How dare I say something so mean. I should be ashamed.

    This from a person who repeating said she wanted Bush hung from a tree. How he was scum of the earth.

    We shall see who was best at protecting us. Obama or Bush. I have a feeling it wont be Obama. We have no idea where all that money he received came from. Obama probably owes some shady people now.

    I never seen a man take so much crap before. Bush was a good president.

  98. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    mom

    yeah still here…….. lol I posted a thread over at Hannity’s and spending time arguing over there

  99. Melissa Says:

    rovingpatrol Says:
    November 30, 2008 at 11:16 pm

    I compared Obama to Hitler once and got jumped on. How dare I say something so mean. I should be ashamed.
    *************************************

    I think it’s a reasonable comparison. Hitler wasn’t a natural born citizen of Germany.

    We all know how well that worked out.

  100. rovingpatrol Says:

    Cris..

    We all know who Obama’s friends were. Haters of America. I wouldn’t exactly say Obama will bring destruction to America to far fetched.

    You can tell a lot about a person by who he hangs out with and I never seen anyone come out and stand up for him. Not even college roommates. Very unusual I think.

  101. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Chris W

    Most of the things said… wasn’t in one speech….. or even just the last couple of months…..it is a collection of things….. and when you add them to speaking points of before he decided to run from president.. it is kind of scary

  102. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Cindy – those guys over at Hannity are toooooo wild for me. Last night it seemed all they wanted to do was to dis each other and try to prove who the smartest guy in the room was and who the snitch was. None of them seem to like anything longer that one sentence either!! If you use too many words it confuses them…has it gotten any better?

  103. Melissa Says:

    This is a link to a post from August stating Republicans had a copy of Obama’s BC and it had the name Barry Soetoro on it.

    jewagainstobama.wordpress.com/2008/08/11/obamas-real-birth-certificate-in-republican-hands/

  104. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Cindy – you said “wasn’t in one speech….. or even just the last couple of months…..it is a collection of things”

    That is so true. He has such a meager record to go on and he is less than forthcoming about so many things so all we are left with is circumstansial evidence and lots of puzzle pieces scattered about to try and determine WHO he is. The only “friends” he seems to have had he has had to repudiate. No old school friends. No professional friends. No records. NO NOTHING. So it is his own fault that we are left to conjure up all kinds of scenarios about him because he has left everything up to our imagination. Some people who like him like that because then he can be everything they want him to be. Then there are people like us, who don’t like the kind of things we are “imagining” and, out of fear for our country, research, blog, suggest, question, and doubt him. He is guilty of something and there are just far too many questions to let this go.

  105. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?p=43679231&posted=1#post43679231

    if you want to take a peek……. I need to run after dog food….

  106. rovingpatrol Says:

    thinkingmom11 Says:
    November 30, 2008 at 11:33 pm

    Cindy – you said “wasn’t in one speech….. or even just the last couple of months…..it is a collection of things”

    That is so true. He has such a meager record to go on and he is less than forthcoming about so many things so all we are left with is circumstansial evidence and lots of puzzle pieces scattered about to try and determine WHO he is. The only “friends” he seems to have had he has had to repudiate. No old school friends. No professional friends. No records. NO NOTHING. So it is his own fault that we are left to conjure up all kinds of scenarios about him because he has left everything up to our imagination. Some people who like him like that because then he can be everything they want him to be. Then there are people like us, who don’t like the kind of things we are “imagining” and, out of fear for our country, research, blog, suggest, question, and doubt him. He is guilty of something and there are just far too many questions to let this go.
    ————————————————————————

    True. They have prosecuted people on even less circumstantial evidence then what is against Obama.

  107. rovingpatrol Says:

    Not sure if this was posted…

    Sunday night 7 p.m. to 10 p.m. Topic is: The Great Birth Certificate Scandal-Cover up of the 2008 Election (article by Joan Swirsky) Mieke & Therese, The Opinionators are very proud to announce our featured Guest is: Joan Swirsky, Who is the recipient of seven Long Island Press Awards.

    blogtalkradio.com/vos

  108. Larse12 Says:

    Great video:

  109. Melissa Says:

    Yay PUMAS! I wasn’t a supporter of any candidate but I think what they are doing is fantastic.

    I’m off to spread the link.

  110. ddlew Says:

    The Antichrist Reveled- The Mark of the Beast is Here & It’s Name is ISLAM

    youtube.com/watch?v=GtquNNEO7Fw&eurl=http://www.lanlamphere.com/public/2008/11/29/the-antichrist-reveled-the-mark-of-the-beast-is-here-its-name-is-islam/

  111. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I love this place 🙂

    after spending time in Hannity’s forum I feel like I need a shower.
    they are all about bashing and insulting anything and anyone they don’t agree with….. they would fit right in with the “one who can’t be named blog”

  112. Ace Says:

    I’m continually amazed at how obsessed you right wing bloggers are with the corrupt corporate media. Why you are not utterly ignoring them is beyond my understanding. The only time I know of their utterances are by references in your blogs.

    And you can’t even see when they are setting you up,as they are in this article. You REALLY trust a liberal who worked for John Kerry ?? Do I have to spell the set up out for you? Surely you can figure it out yourself, it’s fairly elemental.

    How you can trust them for even the weather after they helped totally destroy your party is something for psychiatrists to study.

    Good luck.

  113. thinkingmom11 Says:

    It really is bad over there…I felt the same way you do, Cindy, when I came back here last night. I really like the atmosphere here so much better than other places. Those guys at Hannity’s just seem to want to be the smartest guy in the room or the biggest, baddest dog on the block. Not a place for intellegent discussion of ideas – unless you feel like getting BASHED!

  114. dixieinflorida Says:

    TM did you get your flyers out. I made copies and have put a few out on windshields

  115. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    mom

    those guys over there also think that if it isn’t in the MSM then is isn’t so
    geeeez those are the hard heads we need to get to..I heard Hannity would be doing some coverage on the SCOTUS issue…… but I didn’t read it myself….. I hope it is covered right….. throughly

  116. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    API has now found a new permanent home. ALL API activities are expected to be carried out on the new site by the begining of the new year. API will operate the two sites for now and until the end of the year so as to avoid any activity disruption.

    API is very thankful to WordPress who advised us today on elaborate ways to move our http://africanpress.wordpress.com to http://www.africanpress.in without loosing any of our articles and all the comments that posters have on the site. It means we will simply change the address but remain using some of WordPress’ templates.’

    We will be independent and can do things our own way without having enemies report us to anyone.

    WordPress has been good to us as they are good to other WordPress users and we appreciate their guidance.

    Before we accomplish our plans to move the site, we will continue on this site as usual, but our readers will be allowwed limited hours daily to post their comments.

    The question of the time to release the tape must be left to the MBOs to decide and we know, according to the contract that they will not let the American people down. They know when the impact will be great because one of the MBOs is American and knows the American audience well.

    We realise through the advice given by many readers yesterday that the large number of people who send in emails are against the release of the tape. They make us believe that we will be opening wounds that has started to heal.

    API has spoken to the MBOs today and came to an agreement to proceed despite the fact that there are more against the release than those for its release.

    The MBOs have agreed to reschedule the airing date and will get back to us as soon as possible. Immediately we receive ffeedback from them, we will publish the schedules on the site here and the new site.

    API will now stop discussing the tape and Imam document until we get feedback from the MBOs.

    API is also scheduling interviews with interested TV and Radio stations that have already taken contact with the MBOs. For the safety of API all interviews will be done through a telephone conference calls.

    Any requests therefore by readers to have API comment on the tape and the Imam document will be met with silence.

    API Editorial

  117. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    For those that are curious
    ___________________
    API has now found a new permanent home. ALL API activities are expected to be carried out on the new site by the begining of the new year. API will operate the two sites for now and until the end of the year so as to avoid any activity disruption.

    API is very thankful to WordPress who advised us today on elaborate ways to move our africanpress.wordpress.com to africanpress.in without loosing any of our articles and all the comments that posters have on the site. It means we will simply change the address but remain using some of WordPress’ templates.’

    We will be independent and can do things our own way without having enemies report us to anyone.

    WordPress has been good to us as they are good to other WordPress users and we appreciate their guidance.

    Before we accomplish our plans to move the site, we will continue on this site as usual, but our readers will be allowwed limited hours daily to post their comments.

    The question of the time to release the tape must be left to the MBOs to decide and we know, according to the contract that they will not let the American people down. They know when the impact will be great because one of the MBOs is American and knows the American audience well.

    We realise through the advice given by many readers yesterday that the large number of people who send in emails are against the release of the tape. They make us believe that we will be opening wounds that has started to heal.

    API has spoken to the MBOs today and came to an agreement to proceed despite the fact that there are more against the release than those for its release.

    The MBOs have agreed to reschedule the airing date and will get back to us as soon as possible. Immediately we receive ffeedback from them, we will publish the schedules on the site here and the new site.

    API will now stop discussing the tape and Imam document until we get feedback from the MBOs.

    API is also scheduling interviews with interested TV and Radio stations that have already taken contact with the MBOs. For the safety of API all interviews will be done through a telephone conference calls.

    Any requests therefore by readers to have API comment on the tape and the Imam document will be met with silence.

    API Editorial

  118. j.b. Says:

    Hi….
    I’ve been lurking and linking and reading most of the weekend.
    (getting overwhelmed, again)

    I hope you all enjoyed Thanksgiving.

    To Anyone who was at Hannity’s blog; What, if any, is the reason for the silence from Sean? (I assume it is because of the rumor aspect, but still curious.)

    Oh and WTH makes them think they are so smart over there?
    Are they eating their own or what?
    TIA. 🙂

  119. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I found a post over at API… it is a good post…one i thought I would share
    _________________
    karen808

    Here’s what I am sad about: I’m sad that Obama is black. I wish this likely “usurper” were white instead of Black. Once revealed, true African-Americans will be heartbroken that someone they believed in and trusted betrayed them. In fact, I believe that true African-Americans will not be angry, they will heartbroken. Those who turn to violence will be both white & black but they will be, in my opinion, the “socialist/radical/revolutionaries” enraged that this marxist/socialist/radical conspiracy has been foiled. Well, ALL Americans (both white & black) will deal with them.

    All Americans should be compassionate and reassure our black brothers & sisters that NOVEMBER 4, 2008 was a still a very GREAT DAY in American history b/c a black man was overwhelmingly elected POTUS. Someday in the not-to-distant-future, another black, this time a true African-American patriot (and NATURAL BORN CITIZEN) will be our President.

    That man just cannot be Barack Obama. Perhaps Barack should have read LESS Malcolm X (of the Nation of Islam) and MORE about the lives of MLK, Thurgood Marshall, Jackie Robinson, Sidney Poitier and many other great and courageous men who cleared the path for him.

  120. Tenacity Says:

    Chris W,
    Take the blinders off please. You may like the mask that BO has presented. You will not like the marxist that is behind the mask. He is not the President elect yet. If he is elected by the Electoral College and inaugarated, he will still not be the President of the United States because he is not eligible to serve according to the Constitution. There will be a civil uprising to enforce our Constitution. If you want to fight against real patriots, then you will learn what real patriotism is all about the hard way.

  121. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    j.b.

    lol… eating their own…… it is a wild kingdom over there…

    I posted a thread and was bashed and hunted….. all because i questioned Google censoring searches……

  122. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Dixie – cr*p kept coming up this weekend so I haven’t gotten any flyers out but I am going to go buy toner tomorrow and print a bunch out and at least get some out around the neighborhood and at some of the stores we go to this week. I think I am going to just make copies and put them in my car and whenever I am out this week (which is looking like alot !) I will put them on the cars around me…That way maybe I can get what I need to get done for my family AND my country!

  123. ddlew Says:

    There isn’t going to be a release of the fictitious Michelle Obama tape.

    There just won’t be. It doesn’t exist.

    We should all get behind the petition efforts and pay attention to the Supreme Court proceedings.

  124. thinkingmom11 Says:

    JB from what I saw there were a couple a users that would just attack people and each other throwing out “intellectual insults” with abandon! I don’t think they like each other (or anyone else) over there…

    BTW – thanks for sharing that post Cindy. I think a lot of people feel that way, too.

    I tried posting at API yesterday about releasing the tape. I guess they didn’t like that I basically said that I hoped he hadn’t strung people along with scripture and praising God to perpetuate a hoax and that if he was – he was going to have to spend a lot of time repenting! Obviously, my post was moderated and deleted…

  125. Tenacity Says:

    The flyer site may be up, but I have not been able to access it. The DNS is propagating throughout the internet. My ISP is not yet allowing me access, but yours may. Try
    http:// IsObamaEligible.com
    and let me know if you can see. If you can, please let us know if you see any problems or have suggestions.

  126. Tenacity Says:

    The flyer site may be up, but I have not been able to access it. The DNS is propagating throughout the internet. My ISP is not yet allowing me access, but yours may. Try
    http: //IsObamaEligible.com
    and let me know if you can see. If you can, please let us know if you see any problems or have suggestions.

    If this is duplicated, my apology. My first one was moderated.

  127. sba1872 Says:

    Tenacity,

    The flyer site comes up fine for me. First, in large letters, “Who is Barack Obama” and then scroll down to thinkingmom’s flyer. Then when you click on that, it comes up in pdf and I tried some of the links and they work fine. Going to go back and check more links. Looks good!

  128. Tenacity Says:

    sba,
    Thank you! I wish I could bring it up.

  129. sba1872 Says:

    Of course, the first link is dead as it’s Leo’s first site, blogtext.org.

  130. Tenacity Says:

    thin,
    Can you see the flyer?

  131. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    ddlew

    I agree,….. but there are still a few who peek over there for curiosity sake

  132. sba1872 Says:

    Yeah, good links. I was tempted to read everything. I just had to read the article at worldnetdaily about BO’s new facial tick.

  133. dixieinflorida Says:

    thinkingmom11 Says:
    December 1, 2008 at 2:39 am

    Dixie – cr*p kept coming up this weekend so I haven’t gotten any flyers out but I am going to go buy toner tomorrow and print a bunch out and at least get some out around the neighborhood and at some of the stores we go to this week. I think I am going to just make copies and put them in my car and whenever I am out this week (which is looking like alot !) I will put them on the cars around me…That way maybe I can get what I need to get done for my family AND my country!
    *********************
    I hit the cars that I had parked around

  134. Tenacity Says:

    When I went to Leo’s blogspot site, it put up a TOS warning but allowed me to continue to the site. Is there a better link for Leo’s info that we should put on the flyer?

  135. sba1872 Says:

    Sorry, actually it’s a “tic” not a “tick.” He didn’t get it from deer hunting.

  136. Tenacity Says:

    Dixie,
    Didn’t that damage your car? Or did you use a bat? I only hit the ones with BO stickers.

  137. Cyndi Says:

    Finally done running around, thank goodness. Nice to be home all warm and cozy, quite chilly out tonight. Don’t know if anyone saw this reported before but-
    IS BEN LABOLT CONNECTED TO THE OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE FORGERY?

    astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/07/is-ben-labolt-connected-to-obama-birth.html

  138. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Hey Tenacity – It looks really cool (my son is impressed that I have contributed to a website!) At first I didn’t think the links were working then I realized they were opening in another tab and not a new pop up window. A have a fairly large computer screen and it pops up side by side – looks really cool! Thanks Tenacity! Great Job! ~M

  139. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I love iespell… just installed it on the laptop

  140. sba1872 Says:

    The link on the flyer is to blogtext.org/naturalborncitizen. When I first clicked on the link, it looked like it was timing out, so I just stopped it. I went back and did it again, and it did come through. The site states it was last edited 11/21/08. This isn’t his blogspot site. That was the second one he got when Lan became involved, I think. Then the last I heard he was going to set up a wordpress site. I don’t know which site is the most current, but I was mistaken before in saying that the link on the flyer is dead. It works and it connects to blogtext.org/naturalborncitizen.

  141. letdown2008 Says:

    “Maybe he will get killed and you can all celebrate. You all are a tough crowd.”

    i don’t think that anyone here would wish that, and i wish that you hadn’t said that, chris

  142. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    letdown2008

    me too, I always worry about things like that because of API….. they posted posts like that then pdf’d the site to get them banned from word press.

    but he did tone down…… i think he is used to a forum like hannity’s where almost anything goes

  143. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    If Obama is a fraud; took money and lied to all of his followers..then yes he deserves to be embarrassed, held accountable… drug off in handcuffs and jailed……even tossed out of the country because of treason….
    But never physically harmed…

  144. thinkingmom11 Says:

    sba – I don’t see any link to Leo’s blogs – the one I have is to americamustknow.com…that is weird…

  145. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Letdown – I gave him the “what for” for those comments too. I was really perturbed! But, like Cindy said, he chilled out pretty quickly

  146. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Troy posted a link earlier….

    obambi.wordpress.com/2008/11/30/nancy-pelosi-needs-to-be-arrested/

    I can get to the site but I can’t open the pdf’s….. has anyone else been able to?

  147. Tenacity Says:

    justanamericancindy4 Says:

    December 1, 2008 at 3:36 am
    If Obama is a fraud; took money and lied to all of his followers..then yes he deserves to be embarrassed, held accountable… drug off in handcuffs and jailed……even tossed out of the country because of treason….
    But never physically harmed…
    *************
    Cindy,
    If he is found guilty of treason, is that not subject to the death penalty? I would vote for a long prison sentence and then deportation.

  148. sba1872 Says:

    thinkingmom,

    Here’s a link to what I’m looking at:

    isobamaeligible.com/images/Who%20is%20Barack%20Obama.pdf

  149. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    mom

    Did you get the same impression I did about Chris? That he was surprised that we were able to argue our points civilly.

    I’m glad you gave him the “what for” I usually ignore those kind of remarks because if you expose a sore spot it sometimes makes them worst.

  150. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Tenacity

    well if he is a non us citizen then he could only be kicked out of the county

    i don’t think treason is penalized by death anymore.

  151. Cyndi Says:

    Another great pick of Obama he names Susan Rice as his UN Ambassador-

    Rice, however, at least according to several of her former colleagues, who say she deserves a hefty portion of blame for the fact that Osama bin Laden wasn’t neutralized during the 1990s.

    I was always purturbed because I had heard Clinton had the opportunity to take Osama out but didn’t, apparently Ms Rice had alot of say in that decision.
    All this cr*p wants to make me move to another country

  152. sba1872 Says:

    I opened up another window and I got a different result when I click on the flyer image. That does not have the blogtext.org.

    isobamaeligible.com/images/JRJ Who is Barack Obama.pdf

  153. sdee Says:

    Plains Radio is saying Leo will be on around 11pm eastern time.

  154. Tenacity Says:

    letdown & thin,
    I know I was breaking my own rule of not engaging reactive people or those with blinders on, but I wish Chris W had seen my post.

  155. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Cyndi

    Great! another Clinton reject holding office….. change? yep…. all for the worst

  156. Cyndi Says:

    Plains Radio is saying Leo will be on around 11pm eastern time.
    Tonight

  157. Cyndi Says:

    That was suppose to be a question sdee forgot the ?

    Cindy it’s just barf sickening. I think the Clinton’s have something over his head.

  158. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Sorry Cindy – got caught following the links on the flyer…

    I think he was surprised that we didn’t just call him names and whine like babies but bludgeoned him with information. I think maybe he will consider what we told him and maybe spend some time here looking at some of the links that have been posted and make a newly informed decision. He may not change his mind, but at least maybe he can see our point of view. That is all we can really expect of people: to honestly evaluate the information available and make an educated opinion on what they learn.

    Tenacity – I liked what you said, and maybe he will come back and look around and see what you said. I hope rational people can come here and look at what we find and learn something 🙂

  159. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    mom

    on your flyer….He also refuses to release his records and client list from the law firm where he worked?

    didn’t he just release the whole firms clients and not just his own?
    making the gesture worthless as couldn’t tell who was his or other attorneys in the firm.

  160. thinkingmom11 Says:

    is leo supposed to be on now? I want to hear what he thinks of that federalist blog article!

  161. sdee Says:

    Yeah 2nite. Ed is downright giddy 😉 something about the Fat Lady warming up her voice.

  162. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Cindy – I guess it may have been more clear if I phrased it “He also refuses to release his records and PERSONAL client list…” (I wish there was italics on here so I don’t have to “yell”)

  163. thinkingmom11 Says:

    hmmmm I am not hearing anything….gonna try to get it working

  164. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Cyndi

    The rumer is Clinton and Obama had a secret meeting with people they shouldn’t be meeting with… so i would guess they both hold an ace card over the other.

    i tried to find more info on it when i can across it….but nada…. then the site also disappeared

  165. sdee Says:

    Leo is on now.

  166. thinkingmom11 Says:

    aaarrrrgggghhhhh – I can’t get it to work!!!

  167. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    mom
    you can do html italics

  168. thinkingmom11 Says:

    GOT IT!

  169. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I am obviously completely illiterate with webspeak…how do you do that?

  170. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    link please……

    on the laptop and I don’t have all my links bookmarked here

  171. thinkingmom11 Says:

    http://www.plainsradio.com/chat.html

  172. thinkingmom11 Says:

    plainsradio.com/chat.html

  173. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    the word or words you want in italic you put in text (with no spaces)
    text

  174. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    MoM
    sorry they wouldn’t let me show the example
    here is a quick site

    ironspider.ca/format_text/fontstyles.htm

  175. j.b. Says:

    italics= the word, then without the spaces between the i’s and the . I hope that makes sense.

    I watched the WHOLE first half of the Baba Walters interview(made me sick just listening to him AND her) with BO and did not see no friggin’ tic or a tick for that matter– I did see that he does have a big ‘ol wart on his face, though.
    Anyone else see the tic?

  176. j.b. Says:

    Okay, that did NOT work! Missing a few < ‘s !

  177. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    j.b.

    lol that is why I finally just posted the link…

  178. thinkingmom11 Says:

    thanks for trying to- help guys…I think I am just hopeless 🙂

    JB – couldn’t see the tic – thought it was just the crappy resolution.

  179. Tenacity Says:

    FYI: I have access to the flyer.
    I am listening to Leo and will be slow while listening.
    I am going to add instructions on the flyer website like:
    Click on the flyer, download the pdf. Please feel free to print and distribute the flyer. Please be careful to not litter or distribute in an improper manner.

    I wonder if these are distributed in an illegal manner, will it come back to haunt us?

  180. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    italic
    bold
    underline
    strike through
    teletype

  181. thinkingmom11 Says:

    thanks for the link – I think i figgered it out — we’ll see

  182. thinkingmom11 Says:

    YEA ME!

  183. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    ok italic and bold work fine….. others not

  184. thinkingmom11 Says:

    hee hee

  185. thinkingmom11 Says:

    anyone else listening to Leo?

  186. dixieinflorida Says:

    Tenacity Says:
    December 1, 2008 at 3:16 am

    Dixie,
    Didn’t that damage your car? Or did you use a bat? I only hit the ones with BO stickers.
    *************
    funny

  187. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    mom

    🙂

  188. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I am

  189. thinkingmom11 Says:

    After listening to Leo – this Cort seems like he is in slow motion! That Leo can sure talk – and fast!

  190. sdee Says:

    best I can tell so far…….. the South Carolina Election Commission told DNC in Nov 25th letter that the Democratic Party has not provided the State with sufficient proof of Bo’s eligibility to be on ballot.

  191. Tenacity Says:

    This is a test

  192. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    treason??

    wow when you truly pause and think of the outcome as a whole… it is truly earth shattering….. the Democratic party could be damaged beyond repair…
    We are doing the right thing,….. letting him in office with out a fight just isn’t acceptable.. the truth is always best in the long run. This will really be a historic moment.

  193. Tenacity Says:

    Is anyone calling in to talk to Leo?

  194. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    sdee
    that is the pdf i couldn’t open earlier….. good to hear exactly what it was about

  195. sdee Says:

    Scott Hennen just invited Leo on his show again.

  196. thinkingmom11 Says:

    It doesn’t seem that Leo thinks McCain is eligible…I had to step away and get kids ready for bed…did he mention what he thought about the federalist blog article?

  197. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    good going leo!!

    not accepting money….. will just send it back

  198. Tenacity Says:

    RE: Donofrio’s filing…You would think that someone like the ACLJ would be filing an Amicus Brief, but perhaps that only happens when it clears conference and is scheduled for a full hearing.

    I got the impression from a prior show that Leo was generally in agreement with Madison, but differed on a couple minor issues, more on cause rather than effect.

    RE: McCain…Leo definitely sees an argument for disqualifying McCain, but one has to wonder if that is not a straw man.

  199. j.b. Says:

    I think it is just asinine to expect Americans to go ALL over the world and fight for every cause under the sun and then heaven forbid you marry another soldier and the two of you have a baby wherever you happen to be STATIONED per orders from the U.S Armed Services ! Phooey, I say. Pure-t-B.S! imo.

    Has anyone (here) seen Obamas’ tic? I’m about to get a frickin’ nervous tic reading up on all the twisted ties and what- not this man and his quasi dysfunctional family is (or has been) involved in!
    I’m tellin’ you whut….

  200. sba1872 Says:

    Tenacity says:

    “I wonder if these are distributed in an illegal manner, will it come back to haunt us?”

    —-

    Put “isobamaeligible.com” into Google Search and see first result.

  201. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    off topic……. but my blue chihuahua is sooooo pregnant… she just waddles now…looks like a ball with legs and a head….too funny to watch her

    she is so pampered and spoiled right now

  202. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    j.b.

    from what I undersand….. and i could be wrong…..I never researched it

    The question with McCain is that he was born before the infants of millitary became law…. So is he grandfathered under the law or not.

  203. hockeyfan530 Says:

    i went to my fiancee’s mom’s house over the weekend. She’s a big supporter of Obama and was kind of egging me on….jokingly. Of course my fiancee justed rolled her eyes thinking oh boy….here we go. LOL

    I told her mom you know I have hope too….Did you know that there are 17 or so lawsuits against your man? 2 of which are in the supreme court. The bc’s on Obama’s websites are forged. Along with his SSR. And the dual citizenship with kenya/england aren’t helping him either. So we both have hope…just different kinds….she didn’t say another word. LOL

  204. Tenacity Says:

    sba,
    That has been there for a while. The header is Rosetta’s lead header for the thread that day.
    I was just thinking we need to give instructions but need a disclaimer to guard against repercussions.

  205. thinkingmom11 Says:

    ‘nite y’all – check in again in the AM

    Cindy, I can just imagine what your little pup looks like!

    manana….

  206. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Something to think about

    My step niece was born to my brother in law while he was in Thailand during Nam. the baby had dual citizenship until she was 20, she stayed there with her Mother when he came back…….

    she then had to make her choice. She came to her father when she was 19 and she herself had a daughter…..

    The baby granddaughter came here under Visa even though her mother had dual citizenship at the time of her birth…The birth happen there so she was a citizen there….

  207. ddlew Says:

    sdee Says:
    December 1, 2008 at 4:09 am

    Leo is on now.

    ===============================

    On where?

  208. Tenacity Says:

    Cindy & JB,
    McCain was not born on a military base or even in the military hospital. The area or town where he was born was not considered under US control. The ambassador/military rule is pertaining to citizenship but may not specify Natural Born Citizen in the same way (intent) as Article II. The only place that this arises as an issue is for ability to serve as POTUS or VPOTUS and is being more strictly interpretted.

  209. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    night Mom

  210. Tenacity Says:

    ddlew,
    you missed Leo, he was on Plains Radio.

  211. j.b. Says:

    best I can tell so far…….. the South Carolina Election Commission told DNC in Nov 25th letter that the Democratic Party has not provided the State with sufficient proof of Bo’s eligibility to be on ballot.

    Really? That’s good, er, great!

    The tic…….anyone…… seen it……….?

    goin to find the flyer link…………

  212. dixieinflorida Says:

    Tenacity Says:
    December 1, 2008 at 5:09 am

    RE: Donofrio’s filing…You would think that someone like the ACLJ would be filing an Amicus Brief, but perhaps that only happens when it clears conference and is scheduled for a full hearing.

    I got the impression from a prior show that Leo was generally in agreement with Madison, but differed on a couple minor issues, more on cause rather than effect.

    RE: McCain…Leo definitely sees an argument for disqualifying McCain, but one has to wonder if that is not a straw man.
    ******************
    Good ploy lawyers use to get what they really want to get to

  213. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Tenacity

    I think McCain should be qualified but you are right it should be spelled out in law.

    I think many documents and laws should be looked at and amended to be clarify, so this never happens again.

  214. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    but no one even considered that a non citizen would try to run for office of President. Have to admit it takes on heck of a set

  215. j.b. Says:

    I understand Tenacity, but it’s still f’d up. I am sure that whatever hospital they had to go to to birth little Johnny, they would have much rather had been able to go to one in America, BUT that was not possible, because they were enlisted in The Service! Just sayin’.
    Sorry for the run on sentence. Sort of.

  216. sba1872 Says:

    Tenacity,

    Your proposed instructions sound find. I would maybe just amend the last line to read:

    “Please respect private property, do not litter or distribute in an improper manner.”

    Don’t want to be responsible for alleged destruction of windshield wipers.

  217. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    If the figures I heard today are indeed correct…… BO has spent half a million in legal fees not to show his BC……….. If that doesn’t send up red flags what could.

  218. sba1872 Says:

    Tenacity,

    Wow. I meant to say your instructions are fine, not find. Going to file my fingernails now.

  219. j.b. Says:

    Was it here that linked the article about the shenanigans with Obama and others in the senate trying to ADD the part about naturalized citizens being eligible to run for POTUS to a bill tyhat was eventually k i l l e d?
    My brain hurts……

  220. j.b. Says:

    but no one even considered that a non citizen would try to run for office of President. Have to admit it takes on heck of a set

    Well, according to Larry Sinclair………nevermind.

  221. ddlew Says:

    Tenacity Says:
    December 1, 2008 at 5:29 am

    ddlew,
    you missed Leo, he was on Plains Radio.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Dang it!

    Do they archive their shows?

  222. j.b. Says:

    What’s a Blue Chihuahua?

  223. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    j.b.

    I heard that too,…… someone from BO camp tried to have the constitution reworded to have naturalized put in.

  224. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    j.b.

    Well, according to Larry Sinclair………nevermind.

    lol lol lol

    a blue Chihuahua is really a silver black with blue tinge…..

  225. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    j.b.

    I heard that too,…… someone from BO camp tried to have the constitution reworded to have naturalized put in.

    __________

    I should of added that was 2 years ago

  226. Tenacity Says:

    ddlew,
    yes they do archive the shows, but frankly this wasn’t all that informative/new. If you have heard recent shows with Leo, you have heard most of it. If not, go to an earlier show.

  227. Tenacity Says:

    jb & Cindy,
    The Senate vetted McCain and tried to add some language to their ruling. The interesting part about that is that all of what they did was essentially useless because the only way they can impact the Constitution is by amending it which requires ratification by 3/4 of the states. The people in the Senate, especially the left but both, think they are God.

  228. Tenacity Says:

    I disagree with Leo that So Carolina’s letter stating that BO had failed to demonstrate that he was Constitutional eligible was not significant. First of all, they are the first to make any demands and it might impact other states to do the same (domino). Also, one SC caller sited a SC law that requires candidates to be eligible prior to placing their names on the ballot. That means that BO and the DNC broke SC laws.

  229. sba1872 Says:

    Tenacity,

    I’m not sure, but I think Leo’s standing comes from his being a citizen of NJ and he has properly sued the SOS of NJ. Who would have standing to sue in SC and what would the injury be inasmuch as no Obama electors will be voting on the 15th.

  230. dixieinflorida Says:

    justanamericancindy4 Says:
    December 1, 2008 at 5:45 am

    j.b.

    I heard that too,…… someone from BO camp tried to have the constitution reworded to have naturalized put in.
    *********************
    Even if they did that it would be after the fact and therefore he still isn’t qualified

  231. Tenacity Says:

    sba,
    The point was that since McCain won SC, it was a not significant that SC had sent BO a letter. No it won’ t make a difference at the Electoral College since SC electors will be voting for McCain. I just see the letter going out to BO as demonstrating that BO has failed to prove his citizenship status and perhaps broken some state laws in the process.

  232. j.b. Says:

    Dixie, it was almost two years ago and it was k i l l e d.
    But Obama was all over it. Trying. He knew what he was possibly going to be faced with. I will look for the specific article if at least three people want to see it. lol.
    I, for the life of me, cannot recall where I read it and it was just today! I went on a link tour……..all around the internets. Pretty sure it made me stupider. See?
    🙂

  233. sba1872 Says:

    From Guest Author Judah Benjamin at texasdarlin.wordpress.com. This is old, but I love the way he writes.

    texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/divided-loyalties-pt-2/

    (Re: the non-binding resolution on McCain’s being a natural born citizen)

    “And why did Senators McCaskill and Obama reportedly insert the following Clause?

    “Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President;”

    This Clause has no particular relevance to McCain and the following Clause, which it is reported McCaskill and Obama attempted to REMOVE shows that:

    and Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936.”

    It seems clear that McCaskill and Obama were attempting to create a blanket Resolution covering ALL Foreign Born candidates. Why do that if not to benefit a Foreign Born Democratic Candidate who did not have a US Military background?

    McCain did not need this resolution, Richardson did not need this Resolution; so far as I can see no-body needed this Resolution unless somebody in the race was born outside the USA and was “Covering his/her Ass” and the only individual in the race that that could apply to was Senator Obama!

    This in turn would show that the Senator is a liar who has been peddling untruths about his birth for at least 16 years!”

    —–
    Do you get the impression Judah Benjamin feels strongly about this?

  234. letdown2008 Says:

    glad he’s a chillin’

    haven’t been on hannity’s forum

    mostly on freerepublic

  235. Tenacity Says:

    Here is a world net daily article that has other links in it:
    http: //www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=66787

    Here is a link directly to the Resolution:
    http: //leahy.senate.gov/press/200804/041008c.html

  236. Tenacity Says:

    Judah Benjamin is singing out of the same song book as Donofrio and Madison (Federalists). I enjoy reading JB’s articles.

  237. Tenacity Says:

    I did not see Scalia comments from last week, but I got the impression that he said that Common Law would NOT apply to determining eligibility. Did I hear that straight?

  238. j.b. Says:

    This Clause has no particular relevance to McCain and the following Clause, which it is reported McCaskill and Obama attempted to REMOVE shows that:

    Thanks, sba. Help me understand the statement above, please. I have re- read it 4 times-make no sense to me.

  239. j.b. Says:

    Tenacity, have you seen this?

    Here; //mitchell-langbert.blogspot.com/2008/11/contrairimairi-raises-baffling.html

    add http.

  240. j.b. Says:

    About Scalias’s comment, I do not know.

  241. Tenacity Says:

    j.b.
    I believe McCaskill & BO wanted to remove that statement for 2 reasons. 1) it was too specific where they were trying to be more encompassing and 2) it states that McCain was born to US Citizens (plural).

    I will check out your link…Thanks

  242. j.b. Says:

    Oh, now I get it………thanks.

    Uh-oh- U r going to check out that link! I forgot to tell you to wrap your head with duct tape first……..!!!!!

    Tenacity! Be careful your head don’t (no grammer police allowed) explode!

    See you in two hours……..er, I mean , g’night.

  243. j.b. Says:

    heh-grammer.

  244. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    lol…. got kidnapped by a friend in need…… sigh… but it looks like everyone left for the night

  245. Tenacity Says:

    Anybody got duct tape? I think I’m getting a migrain.

    J.B., if you are still around…what the heck was that all about? Interesting that this guy started making some of the same connections as Lame Cherry.

  246. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Tenacity

    I tried reading it earlier today….. got about half way couldn’t finish……

  247. j.b. Says:

    Tenacity, I was hoping you could tell me.

    I have a hard time reading Lame Cherry-not the content, the style.

    Now, I really am going to bed. It’s 2:30!

    Nitol.

  248. j.b. Says:

    Wait! I did call that friggin’ number. It was busy! 🙂

  249. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    night Jb

  250. Tenacity Says:

    Cindy,
    I scanned through a lot of it and looked at the bottom. The Indonesian/Bank of Hawaii connections starting popping up in his searches.
    He found Verizon phone numbers for BO’s mom after she was supposed to be dead. He knew that it was after her death because Verizon didn’t exist before her death.

  251. Tenacity Says:

    J.B.
    I had trouble connecting the dots because of Lame Cherry’s style. It seems words are missing at times. LC seemed to leap to things without clearly making the connections.

  252. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I know there has to be an issue with his Grandmother and Mother… I don’t know if that story will ever come out…If we ever know the truth…

  253. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Tenacity

    my mother writes that way,…… jumps around,…..misses words….. so hard to read

  254. j.b. Says:

    Geez, I just called the number again (because the first time I called was two hours ago and I could not leave well enough alone, oh no, not me) and got Dr. Mansoor’s “answering service”.

    Guys, Don’t forget the mention of body parts harvesting……….or the like in that mess at Langberts blog.

    Great, now that they have my ph. #, my kidneys will prolly be somebody’s Christmas present……. aaahhhhhhhh.

  255. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    my mind keeps going to the SSR document…… if it is fake…..it would be a less of two evils way of getting him to step down.

  256. j.b. Says:

    Oh and $ laundering, per the bank positions the G-ma and O’s ma had. All I know is, it fits with ALL the rest of the f’d up stuff surrounding him! Whatever it is……..Oh and what is up with there being NO record of any marriage in the whole fam damily, no death records- Notta! WTH is that about?
    Hmmmmmm?

  257. Tenacity Says:

    j.b. & Cindy,
    I noticed the body part harvesting. Hard to make heads or tales of it all.

    Cindy, some Scottish poets wrote like that. Seems they were trying say more with less words. My son and I have read some of George MacDonald’s sermons…quite interesting. But Lame Cherry seems to think faster than they write and assumes that the reader can fill in the missing peices. I would think that most would just give up.

    I hittin’ the sack….manana

  258. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    jb

    lol we have been so hard hit financially since the flood.I would almost sell a kidney to get rid of the stress……

  259. j.b. Says:

    //mitchell-langbert.blogspot.com/2008/11/contrairimairi-raises-baffling.html
    Well, I think maybe we should make a group effort of reading it and “getting” it. Or not.

    This Lambert guy doesn’t “get it” either and he claims to have quite the resume!

    Good. Night. (furreal this time)

    And.

    God help US.

  260. Tenacity Says:

    These banking connections may answer what it is that BO & the Clintons have on each other.

  261. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    i think I need to take stock in tin foil…… because the more that is exposed the crazier it gets…….. and it’s BELIEVABLE when it comes to this man

  262. Tenacity Says:

    I don’t think its a good idea to mention tin foil around j.b.
    He might take it personally.

  263. Tenacity Says:

    Good Night!!

  264. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    i ticked someone off earlier in another blog….. he was in your face rude about Pres-elect this….Pres-elect that……

    I finally said BO is just another black man without a current job waiting on his housing.

    i though I seen steam come off the sceen….lol

  265. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Tenacity

    I mean the whole thing is SO sureal,…. but I see credibility in almost all of the theories……some things fit more than others…….. but all are possible.
    I think even if he does get into office, he will be a one termer….. this is not going to go away….. he will never get the full respect of the country….and eventually the msm will turn on him.
    The truth will come out,….. hopefully soon,…. but it will

  266. dixieinflorida Says:

    It seems clear that McCaskill and Obama were attempting to create a blanket Resolution covering ALL Foreign Born candidates. Why do that if not to benefit a Foreign Born Democratic Candidate who did not have a US Military background?
    ********************
    Yes it does—-this whole election is fishy—never in the history of the US have I seen something like this where someone is elected without any experience, managed to get his competition thrown off the ballot to become a senator, and has managed to get so much money and then doesn’t have to explain where he got the money. There is plenty of money backing this unknown and why?
    *******************
    justanamericancindy4 Says:
    December 1, 2008 at 7:49 am

    i ticked someone off earlier in another blog….. he was in your face rude about Pres-elect this….Pres-elect that……

    I finally said BO is just another black man without a current job waiting on his housing.

    i though I seen steam come off the sceen….lol
    **************************
    That’s a good one

  267. Melissa Says:

    Someone just posted this on Worldnet Daily:
    *******************************************

    Leo Donofrio has called and asked for air time. He has just learned something that will have all of us jumping for joy and crying tears of happiness. We are setting it up for a special at 10:00 pm tonight. Join us for what we have been waiting to here since May 31st. Folks it is over.

    democratic-disaster.com/index.php?topic=1230.0

    Here’s the link to the show at 10pm:

    plainsradio.com/chat.html

    This will start the live streaming audio.

    The word is that there will be a ruling on Leo’s case by Dec 5th (friday), and it is rumored that the SCOTUS will OVERTURN the 2008 election!

  268. Melissa Says:

    If anyone has time, go to Leo’s blog and download Cort Wrotnoski’s case.

    thenaturalborncitizen.blogspot.com/

    It is VERY strong.

  269. Ddlew2 Says:

    I am posting from my phone and have lost my password. I have two Gmail accounts and my G1 (google phone) will only allow access to one Gmail account so I can’t retrieve my new PW until I get home. Could you allow me to post temporarily under this name?

    Thanks,
    David

  270. rosettasister Says:

    Ddlew2 Says:
    December 1, 2008 at 3:54 pm

    —————————

    Sure, David!

  271. tooncesmom Says:

    Checking in and reading as usual. This is getting very interesting.

  272. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    post from another blog
    ______________
    The word is that there will be a ruling on Leo’s case by Dec 5th (friday), and it is rumored that the SCOTUS will OVERTURN the 2008 election! Also rumored is that the White House has requested (or is planning to request) that all state governors call for “martial law” by the end of the week. Rumors are just that, though… RUMORS. But Leo has been on the phone with Ed Hale (owner of Plains Radio) numerous times today with the above news. According to Ed, “it is over for BHO”. His words…. not mine. I’m just passing along the info.

  273. Ddlew2 Says:

    Thank you!

  274. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    bummer….. smacking myself
    I should of looked at the date of the post…… it was last night…. Leo didn’t have any earth shaking news…….. I listened

  275. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Has anyone seen the Chicago Tribune ad yet?…… is it out?

  276. tooncesmom Says:

    Cindy:

    I listened to Leo last night and the broadcast seemed to be the interview 3 from a couple of days ago. Was this the one with Leo and Cort? That’s the only one I could get (at 8 o’clock Pacific time). Very thorough but nothing we hadn’t already heard.

  277. Cyndi Says:

    Good Morning!!!

    Scary stuff Cindy, do you know what happens during martial law?

    CNN is warning Americans that already making Barack Obama into one of America’s greatest “heroes” may not be a good idea. Despite the fact that Barack Obama has yet to take office, despite that he has yet to really do anything to earn that status, CNN is saying that “already, he’s being compared to the most remarkable leaders.”

    freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2140764/posts

  278. Ddlew2 Says:

    Hey guys…..

    If you get a couple of hours to kill, or just want something playing in the background, click on my name and view the video I posted to my blog.

    This is one of the best videos that I have seen in reference to international bankers and globalization. Very informative!

  279. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    My understanding is that apparently the South Carolina Board of Elections has sent a letter to their Electors, instructing them to definitively verify that Obama is eligible as a candidate for the presidency PRIOR to their Electoral vote.
    Also, apparently the Tennessee electors are having a conference call to discuss how to best verify this issue also prior to their vote?

  280. oo12oo Says:

    Hello Rose’,

    Hope you and everyone enjoyed a memorable holiday. Whatwith all the court-proceedings, full-page newspaper ads and now even Mr. Sinclair’s bombshell about a tell all book out before January 20, 2009, this may be a rocky week ahead for President-elect Barack Obama. Cannot wait until all these hot-button issues have been resolved one way or another. Happy December lady.

    Al

  281. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Cyndi

    In a way I do.
    martial law was in force here in my neighborhood over the summer because of looting.
    We were hit hard by flooding…. it was awesome and scary seeing armored trucks go up and down your street ever hour with gunned officers behind the trucks

  282. rosettasister Says:

    Good morning, America! How are you?!

    New Thread:

    https://rosettasister.wordpress.com/2008/12/01/%e2%80%9cobamas-south-asia-challenges%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%9cahmed-rashid-says-us-president-elect-barack-obama-will-face-some-of-his-trickiest-foreign-policy-challenges-in-south-asia%e2%80%9d/

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