Do We Need Another John Maynard Keynes?

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John Maynard Keynes

Governments around the world are considering plans to boost their economies with temporary tax cuts or to increase spending on big projects.

It is part of efforts to stop the global economy sliding into a deep slump.

Some of the inspiration has come from the long dead British economist John Maynard Keynes.

Mark Gregory examines Keynes’ ideas and why they are relevant today.

Listen here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/programmes/analysis.shtml

See also:

“The Paradox of Thrift”

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7745858.stm

Recent Blogging About Ron Polarik’s Findings:

http://nutuba.blogspot.com/2008/11/obamas-birth-certificate-fact-or.html

http://ourtwistedreality.wordpress.com/2008/11/23/the-obama-paper-trail-or-lack-of-it/

http://www.thecommentary.net/fox-news-tails-tucked-between-their-legs/

http://palestinianeforum.blogspot.com/2008/11/ziopedia-newsflash-monday-24-november.html

http://www.remoteviewer.nu/?p=10942

http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/2008/11/24/obamas-born-conspiracy-forged-images-phony-photos-and-felony-fraud/

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=1099

http://www.lanlamphere.com/public/2008/11/24/the-most-reliable-source-of-news-the-internet-the-new-mainstream-media/

API Update:

http://africanpress.in/index.html

This is the new API website. This site will soon take over the activities from:

http://africanpress.wordpress.com/

API has a BlogTalk Radio and a chat room. Visit our Chat Room and meet friends/get new friends and chat on social or political issues.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/africanpressapi

API will start a weekly BlogTalk Radio Show from January 2009.

A Free Call-in two hour Radio Show where the callers will get to discus issues Live on Radio.

Polarik’s explanation as to the whole OHSM – OHBM Thing:

To: ComputerGuy

The KOS version is OHSM. The 0bama website version is OHBM. They both have the same spot (flaw) mentioned by Polarik.

The initials were not changed since they first introduced the current COLB form seven years ago. The “S” in OHSM looks like a “B” because the Obama Campaign deliberately made a lousy image copy, ensuring that the image would be illegible under magnification.

Call it the Case of the Dyslexic Image Document.

194 posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 10:54:43 AM by Polarik

To: Polarik

Sorry, I don’t see that. At the highest zoom level I can muster there are clearly, at least to me, two versions.
The 0bama website and Kos are OHBM and FactCheck is OHSM. The difference is obvious in your document.

198 posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 11:24:49 AM by ComputerGuy

To: ComputerGuy

WITHIN EACH IMAGE, COMPARE THE “S” IN “LASER” TO “S” IN “OHSM”

KOS OHSM:

kos-ohsm-edge1

FTS OHSM: (SMEARS)

smears-ohsm-edge

SO…CAN I HEAR AN “AMEN,” BROTHER?

204 posted on 11/24/2008 1:00:54 PM PST by Polarik

(RS – I wish I could be sure these two guys are comparing the same images.)

Phil Berg Barack Obama Ron Polarik Jeff Schreiber Michelle Obama Chief Editor Korir African Press International API

430 Responses to “Do We Need Another John Maynard Keynes?”

  1. dixieinflorida Says:

    Who’s first

  2. dixieinflorida Says:

    Ha ha I am

  3. Ksinde. Says:

    Repost:

    Hi Peppermint…

    I agree with you post. You should not need to make appologies on your feelings. That in part is what is wrong now a days. Most are so touchy about everything. So politically correct, right down to even our public schools. Now my children can not have a halloween party or a christmas party at school. Also it is like In God We Trust is a curse word now.

  4. Ksinde. Says:

    Mom, Yes it does look like a cross. Mr Mygui and Yoda…lol

    Dixie, I can not imagine what it was like to not have your own mother believe. You know the say “what doesn’t kill you, makes you stronger”, that is so true.

    When you go through a situation like that, i feel after you go through the emotions, you have to draw the positive out of it. It really does in the end make you a stronger person. Like you said, for instance, you are a better mother because of it.

  5. thinkingmom11 Says:

    NOOOOOO – no more Keynes. Bring back Adam Smith!!!!! Wealth of Nations!

  6. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Repost:

    Thank you Peppermint! That felt good. And, you are right…this country was never about freedom FROM religion. Jefferson himself sanctioned an official day of fasting and prayer when he was Governor of Virgina but felt it wasn’t the purview of the Fed Govt to sanction religious activity when he was asked to institute a National Day of Prayer and Fasting – that was to be left to the states and to the citizens of such states to decide. Most founding fathers felt that out Constitution was only good for a moral people and most people at the time of the writing were of Judeo Christian faith and morals. They nearly all felt that God had his Providential hand in the writing of our Constitution. Anyone who spends 5 minutes reading about the men who founded the country and the values they held would be lying if they claimed that those men thought God was irrelevant.

  7. dixieinflorida Says:

    Ksinde. Says:
    November 24, 2008 at 5:36 pm

    Dixie, I can not imagine what it was like to not have your own mother believe. You know the say “what doesn’t kill you, makes you stronger”, that is so true.

    When you go through a situation like that, i feel after you go through the emotions, you have to draw the positive out of it. It really does in the end make you a stronger person. Like you said, for instance, you are a better mother because of it.
    ******************************
    Just before one of them died he came to me with all kinds of remorse and apologies. My husband was furious I even let him. Guess he wanted a clear conscience before he went to hell. Anyway since I never talked about it, it was causing problems in my marriage so we both went to counseling and finally she drug it out of me. It was all good after that.

  8. redvelvetrebel Says:

    *yawn* so is anybody here that was on the chat party last night?

  9. Ksinde. Says:

    Well I just saw the link to API’s new site. Does that make anyone else mad? I saw that he posted that if you want to advertise please email api.

    That is just confirming my suspicion that he wanted to string us along until he got a for profit website. ugghh that is making me upset!

  10. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Cindy – this one’s for you 🙂

    youtube.com/watch?v=Bk2p6pkDO3o

  11. Ksinde. Says:

    Dixie, I am so glad that you went to get counseling and that you are doing better! I can’t even begin to imagine.

  12. dixieinflorida Says:

    Ksinde. Says:
    November 24, 2008 at 5:46 pm

    Dixie, I am so glad that you went to get counseling and that you are doing better! I can’t even begin to imagine.
    *******************
    Happened over 40 years ago, so long over it. Well it’s wayyyyy in the back anyway

  13. Ksinde. Says:

    This may sound ignorant, but I don’t care… Does K really think that we check his site out because we like his journalism skills??????????? Give me a flipping break!

  14. Ksinde. Says:

    Dixie, IMO with something so horrible as that, 40yrs ago – yesterday, same difference. You are a couragous person to confront it and work through it and your husband is a good man to hold your hand through it!!!

  15. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Thanks Ksinde and TMom– and Hey KSINDE!
    I agree with you both. And, Ksinde, I know that it’s hard to raise children in the public schools right now. My youngest daughter was homeschooling her kids until she went to med school. They had to put my grandkids in the public school, and it has been awful. This year is better than last, but it still has many draw backs. My grandson was so harrassed last year that it literally made him sick. It broke my heart. I live about an hour each way from them, or I would have been there everyday schooling the kids for her. I know they are having to make sacrifices so that they can afford to “live” but it’s sad that we pay taxes and our kids have such lousy schools (and this is the best that the public schools have to offer). Ksinde, I know you do your best to make a great life for your kids. We have to fight for our families, especially our children!

  16. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Repost: Hey Al,

    Wishing that Happy Thanksgiving right back at you! Ihope you have safe travels on your way to wherever you are going.

    We will be having our family get together on Saturday at my daughter’s home in Charlotte. My two daughters and their families, and my son (he’s single) will be celebrating all together. Can’t wait to see everyone. It’s been at least 6 weeks since we were all together for dinner. Everyone in my family loves to cook, and are all great cooks, and we love to get together and prepare meals. So, it’s just the right holiday for us! We have o much to be greatful for.

    You all be blessed, and Al, again, the best to you and to yours.

  17. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Pep – we are in CA and I am incredibly blessed to be able to homeschool my kids. We have to make plenty of sacrifices to do it but it is worth it. My kids are great kids and will talk to anyone – with manners! I often have surprised reactions when I tell them the my kids (and especially my son) are homeschooled. They seem shocked that he seems so “normal” or something! I know some families homeschool because their kids DO have problems (socially, academically, physically – my sister homeschools her kids one reason being is her son is a Type 1 diabetic) but many more just want something better for their children. Our schools have deteriorated since being federalized. Let the states have back control of the schools and allow some free market competition! THEN we will start making progress!

  18. dixieinflorida Says:

    Ksinde. Says:
    November 24, 2008 at 5:51 pm

    Dixie, IMO with something so horrible as that, 40yrs ago – yesterday, same difference. You are a couragous person to confront it and work through it and your husband is a good man to hold your hand through it!!!
    ******************************
    Thank you. Yes once he found out a lot of things became clearer. We finally divorced 10 yrs ago but it wasn’t because of that.

  19. Ksinde. Says:

    Peppermint, that is just terrible about your grandson! Children can be so cruel. You know though, it starts at home. I tell my children that if you see someone being picked on to not turn a shoulder but to help those who need it.

    There was a Dateline or 20/20 show on last year. They set up a hidden camera in a park. They had a boyfriend and girlfriend on a bench and the boyfriend was pretending to verbally abuse the girlfriend and raise a hand to her. The point of this was to see who would ignore it or who would help this poor woman. The results surprised me!

    I myself am the type to think afterwards, i would have rushed up in that guys face so quick. But so many just ignored it. I couldn’t believe it.

  20. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Dixie, when I speak at women’s groups in Africa and India, I’m always able to use the things that happened to me, that should not have, when I was a child and a young woman. I tell the women my story, and about how God has brought healing into my life, much more than I can go into here. I believe that when I use it to bring healing to other women, then God redeems it, and I can claim it for good and not allow the hurt and the pain control my life, as it did before. I see and speak to so many women all over the world who have suffered serious abuse. Most of these women never get to even acknowledge that it happened. And most never get to face their abusers with the truth. It’s a horrible pain that only you can know, and that only each person who has suffered it can know. You are strong to be able to tell your story and you are brave. When women speak out, and men too, who have suffered abuse–even if it’s just to say, this happened to me and I have survived it (and am triumphing over it!), then they help so many others who are even going through abuse at this time. You stay strong!

  21. Ksinde. Says:

    peppermintpatty777 Says:

    November 24, 2008 at 6:01 pm
    *** Pep, you are an amazing peson!

  22. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Amen, Pep – thank you for all you do for the good of the world…may God continue to bless you in all that you do.

  23. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    TMom, I homeschooled my kids way back when it wasn’t cool and I believe it is the best way if a family can manage it. My kids did go to publica school at various times. My son homeschooled for one year, because I had taken him to volunteer in Israel for part of that school year. He and I went there and spent several months, and we celebrated his 17th birthday there. We both worked with Israelies, Palestinians, Christians, Muslims and Jews, and we were able to share a lot of experiences together. But, it also meant he had to miss a year of public school. It was amazing though that they gave him “A’s” for that year, due to the documentation that we made of his year. He had to study hard and he graduated the next year with his class. My daughters homeschooled too. My oldest daughter graduated from Law School (while raising two kids as a single mom) and working two and three jobs (one of the top schools in the nation) with honors. Yes, I’m bragging–she deserves to have her Mom bragg on her hard work. But, homeschooling was a good thing for us. my youngest daughter is in med school now, and she and her husband are raising their 4 kids. My adult children learned a lot about community, about family, and about academics and the world–homeschooling ROCKS! TMom–if you ever need a penpal for one of your kids, let me know! I’ve got grandkids that would love to have a penpal!

  24. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Mom

    watched that video………….lol yep…..it’s a handful wrestling those big birds

  25. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    TMom and K– Thank you–now I’m blushing! I say this with all sincerity and humility: What little I’m able to do in this world, I’m always the one who is being blessed. When you have someone set their only cup of tea before you as though you were a visiting dignitary, or when someone kills the only chicken they have to prepare a meal for you, and you know that at home you pass by KFC every day– it’s very humbling. It makes me realize how very blessed I am, and whatever I can give back, it’s never enough based on what I’ve been given. I do so little compared to what I could do if I didn’t get comfy and complacent here on this mountain top! It’s too easy to forget that their hungry hearts and hungry stomachs when I’m at home. But, God has ways to remind me! Thank you both for encouraging me!

  26. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    My son sent me something this morning and I know that I caught just a brief nodding pass of something about it on one of the MSM last week–they didn’t really want the public to focus on it–but now my son sent me a note telling me something about the US is going to be changing currencies on Dec. 15th. Has anyone here heard anything about that?

  27. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Thanks Pep – I will run the penpal idea by them! They don’t love writing – yet…but we are gently working on it. I personally love to write so I hope some of it rubs off on them. I try not to force it too much too soon so as not to kill all desire for it. At their ages I think it is most important to get their verbal communication skills and critical thinking skills developed – the writing will come! I think that a penpal would be a great idea – will let you know…

  28. Ksinde. Says:

    ok…well it is back to work for me hiho hiho… Will ttyl & hagd

  29. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    sorry to drop out from the conversation…. had a phone call

  30. dixieinflorida Says:

    peppermintpatty777 Says:
    November 24, 2008 at 6:01 pm

    Dixie, when I speak at women’s groups in Africa and India, I’m always able to use the things that happened to me, that should not have, when I was a child and a young woman. I tell the women my story, and about how God has brought healing into my life, much more than I can go into here. I believe that when I use it to bring healing to other women, then God redeems it, and I can claim it for good and not allow the hurt and the pain control my life, as it did before. I see and speak to so many women all over the world who have suffered serious abuse. Most of these women never get to even acknowledge that it happened. And most never get to face their abusers with the truth. It’s a horrible pain that only you can know, and that only each person who has suffered it can know. You are strong to be able to tell your story and you are brave. When women speak out, and men too, who have suffered abuse–even if it’s just to say, this happened to me and I have survived it (and am triumphing over it!), then they help so many others who are even going through abuse at this time. You stay strong!
    *******************
    Well said and I look at it this way……..If God takes me to it then he will lead me through it. That’s my motto and I live by it.

  31. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    TMom, I undestand that about the writing! I know that my daughter did an exchange with someone in CA last year. It was a shoebox exchange. They each sent a shoebox packed with little things that were native to their area. My daughter sent an apple (we live in one of the apple regions of the country), and something that we picked up at the Biltmore House and Gardens’ gift shop (just a trinket) and then a pair of socks (the hosiery industry is big here too) and something a piece of doll house furniture (this is the furniture capital of the world) along with some pine cones and sea shells and various natural things. It was a cool way for kids to share across the country!

  32. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Pep – I hadn’t heard anything about a currency change (other than the cosmetic enhancements that has been made of late). Can you give us more information. Seems that that would be a pretty big thing to try to “slip in” under the radar…

  33. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Pep – that sounds very interesting! There is a lot of cool stuff around here too – with many chocolatiers, Jelly Belly, cheese manufacturers, etc we could come up with a pretty good box!!

  34. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    I will try to get an email to him. He’s in class right now (he’s in college). I know he had to have a source or he would not have said anything about it. He’s very particular about sourcing his information. I was just curious to see if anyone else had heard anything. As soon as I get clarification I’ll post it.

  35. rosettasister Says:

    Polarik YouTube

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2137454/posts

    To: all the best
    Illuminati TV jumped the gun here, by posting it before i had a chance to review it.
    After I sign off on it, they will post it again.

    34 posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 10:25:32 AM by Polarik

    After video reposted you should be able to find it here:

    http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=illuminatitv&view=videos

    Or check at FR link above.

  36. dixieinflorida Says:

    I swear if they put that one’s picture on money I will take it to the bank everytime I get any and trade it in on old money.

  37. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Have you seen this video that tells congress was threatened with martial law? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaG9d_4zij8

  38. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    If I want to post a link, how can I do so without it going through moderation? Or, is that just automatic? I guess I should post it without the http heading?

  39. thinkingmom11 Says:

    No kidding Dixie!! I guess this means you WON”T be purchasing one of the “lovely” Obama coins then?

  40. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Pep -just take of the http and the www – we know how to handle it from there!

  41. Cyndi Says:

    Good day all.

    Pep and mom then only thing I have heard about currency change is the Amero, having a play in the NAU.

  42. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I would think that a change like that would get a little more “playing time” than a casual mention here and there…who knows though, anymore…

  43. Cyndi Says:

    Some believe that the economy will collapse the dollar will be worth nothing so the gov. will produce the Amero as currency at pennies on the dollar. So if you were to have a savings account with 1,000 dollars in it then the gov. would say well since the dollar is worth nothing will give you 10 cents on the dollar so now your account is only worth around 100.00 dollars.

  44. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Rose – that Illuminati tv channel on You Tube has a video the is Pt. 11 of a series I guess. I looks like it was posted a week ago and looks to have been about Obama, Hawaii and the birth certificate – youtube tells me “Sorry this video is no longer available” This is recent because there are comments on there from with in at least the last 3-9 hours… I hope they repost it along with the Polarik vid

  45. Cyndi Says:

    Rose I tried earlier to go to the youtube link and got this-

    This is a private video. Please log in to verify that you may see it.

  46. rosettasister Says:

    Cyndi Says:
    November 24, 2008 at 6:43 pm

    Rose I tried earlier to go to the youtube link and got this-

    This is a private video. Please log in to verify that you may see it.

    ——————

    It was up earlier, and should be again after Polarik has a chance to review it.

  47. rosettasister Says:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2136816/posts

    To: i_dont_chat

    He has proven that the seal on the FAKE birth certificate is not the seal they used in 1961.

    Not exactly. The COLB you see is a modern, computer-generated graphic that is laser-printed on special, green paper. It is only a transcript of a birth record on file, and is not an actual, original birth certificate.
    What may confuse the viewer is that the COLB form was created in or around November 2001, but it may contain birth information going as far back as 1960, the year after Hawaii became a state.
    In other words, it’s “Old news in a new form.”
    Since 2001, for security reasons, the border has been changed every year. However, the Seal used in 2007 looks similar to the one used in 2003. It is for this reason, that the Obama Campaign and Factcheck never suspected that the Seal as well as the Registrar’s stamp, would look any different on a 2008 COLB from what was used on a 2007 COLBs.
    But these two features were, in fact, changed for 2008, and thus, there is no way in Hades that they would ever be found on a real 2007 COLB with a real 2007 COLB border.

    They would, however, be found on a fake, Photoshopped COLB:

    189 posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 10:22:54 AM by Polarik

  48. rosettasister Says:

    Latest on OHBM and OHSM discrepancy:

    To: ComputerGuy; rosettasister; Polarik
    The KOS version is OHSM.
    The 0bama website version is OHBM.
    They both have the same spot (flaw) mentioned by Polarik.
    As far as I can tell:
    OHSM – KOS, Factcheck, Politifact, and all Certifications submitted from other people
    OHBM – FighttheSmears
    As all of BO’s have the same spot, the alteration would have been made to the original jpeg file.
    Or is it the appearance of a “B” due to the low resolution of the file and some pixels darkened to create the appearance of a straight line forming a B?

    190 posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 10:25:59 AM by christie

    To: Polarik
    The first version I’m aware of was the Kos version. It has the speck/spot/flaw below the E in Certification. It also has OHBM in the lower left corner.
    The next version I saw was from 0bama’s website. It appears to be identical to the Kos version, except for size.
    Then along comes FactCheck, with their version. It has the speck/spot/flaw but has OHSM in the lower left corner.
    Could it be that the original (nearsighted) forger mistook an S for a B, and that error was ‘corrected’ by the good folks at FactCheck ?

    191 posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 10:32:29 AM by ComputerGuy

    To: christie
    See my post #173. Oops

    192 posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 10:34:34 AM by ComputerGuy

    To: ComputerGuy
    The KOS version is OHSM. The 0bama website version is OHBM. They both have the same spot (flaw) mentioned by Polarik.
    The initials were not changed since they first introduced the current COLB form seven years ago. The “S” in OHSM looks like a “B” because the Obama Campaign deliberately made a lousy image copy, ensuring that the image would be illegible under magnification.
    Call it the Case of the Dyslexic Image Document.

    194 posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 10:54:43 AM by Polarik

    To: ComputerGuy
    See my reply in http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2136816/posts?q=1&;page=194#194\

    195 posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 10:57:47 AM by Polarik

    To: ComputerGuy
    Read my reponse at: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2136816/posts?q=1&;page=194#194

    196 posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 10:59:56 AM by Polarik

    To: Polarik
    I meant the FactCheck version, not the Kos version. My bad.

    197 posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 11:06:44 AM by ComputerGuy

    To: Polarik
    Sorry, I don’t see that. At the highest zoom level I can muster there are clearly, at least to me, two versions.
    The 0bama website and Kos are OHBM and FactCheck is OHSM. The difference is obvious in your document.

    198 posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 11:24:49 AM by ComputerGuy

  49. Cyndi Says:

    Has anyone ever watched the video of an interview of Aaron Russo by Alex Jones? Very interesting, I mean to me it makes sense. He has a keen opinion of our so called government.

  50. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    I know that many people post youtubes for many different reasons, but this one is scary! After what the FBI agent that spoke out on the Weather underground. This is terrifying, even if it is just hype!

    youtube.com/watch?v=SdYILnUyALs

  51. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I thought the same thing Pep when someone told me the other day about the Rex 84 program!

  52. dixieinflorida Says:

    thinkingmom11 Says:
    November 24, 2008 at 6:36 pm

    No kidding Dixie!! I guess this means you WON”T be purchasing one of the “lovely” Obama coins then?
    ********************
    Sure I have……………not even for 50c……….lol much less the 19.95 they are trying to get or will get from the Obots

  53. rosettasister Says:

    bbl

    so many errands to run today

    if I find out anything more, I’ll let you know.

    be well, everybody!

    Rose

  54. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Rose – sounds like Polarik and Computer dude are having a little disagreement 🙂 I still think it is a B…

  55. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    hmmm, I guess that I would be on the red list, and so would my hubby– and I’m guessing most of you because you dare post on a blog would be on the red list too–

    Darn, I hate lists!

  56. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Does anyone have a link to Donofrio’s new website? Does he have most of his info back up? I am composing a letter to news outlets and want to include links to the best websites…I am including Polarik and want to include a good one for Donofrio. Any other suggestions?

  57. Cyndi Says:

    Aaron Russo Alex Jones NWO Womens Liberation Conspiracy-

    I think Cindy was posting something yesterday about when women went to work how it effected our children. Russo tells of how Rockfellers funded the womens movement and why.

    Then there is a series on Russo and corruption of gov. and the gov.’s agenda for us.

    Russo died last year of cancer.

  58. Cyndi Says:

    Aaron Russo Alex Jones NWO Womens Liberation Conspiracy-

    I think Cindy was posting something yesterday about when women went to work how it effected our children. Russo tells of how Rockfellers funded the womens movement and why.

    youtube.com/watch?v=7jC8101D7R4

    Then there is a series on Russo and corruption of gov. and the gov.’s agenda for us.

    youtube.com/watch?v=E8pMqfxBQ-M

    Russo died last year of cancer.

    Rose would you please delete my post in moderation, I forgot about the www thing. Thank you.

  59. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    So how many of you believe that FEMA now has death camps and the 10’s of thousands of plastic coffins stacked in a field in GA are mant for “us”? Can I get a show of hands. Why hadn’t I heard about this before? Is this just militia talk of some radicals or is this real stuff that I need to have nightmares about? Why do I think BO and Co. have something to do with this, if this is real? If you want to sleep anytime soon, do not go to this site, but if you need to stay awake and you’ve been suffering from LOW blood pressure, then you might want to check it out: uaff.us/deathcamps.htm

  60. dixieinflorida Says:

    blogtext.org/naturalborncitizen/

  61. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    I’m assuming NWO means New World Order? I don’t mean to seem dense, it’s just shocking that people are speaking about the NWO these days as a reality. I can remember as a kid growing up hearing preachers preach about the NWO in the future in relation to the “end times”. It’s like seeing the “one world bank” and remembering talk about this wayyyy back then too (I’m under 50 so some of you might understand what I’m talking about). But now, I see all of these videos about NWO and I’ve actually seen the One World Banks in Africa and maybe even in India. I know I saw one in Kenya.

    I think I need to eat some chocolate. And, based on what was said about my funds might go from A000000.00 down to A00.00 then I might just go take all of my money out of the bank and go on a cruise! Maybe we should all take our money out and buy a huge partial of land, and then have our own nation!!! I think that is how cult’s get started though.

    I need to eat some chocolate–and maybe some Ice cream!

  62. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Cyndi …recap of that post

    ________
    justanamericancindy4 Says:

    November 23, 2008 at 2:57 am
    Ok here is my train of thought, I really don’t mean to offend anybody it is just my take on things.

    America started to decline when the Dad working was not enough, when Mom’s HAD to work because thier home needed two incomes to survive.

    The children started being exposed to many influences because Babysitters/daycare became the norm, where Grandma, Aunt, etc were the babysitters, they too were now out working.

    Remember when Holidays were about families getting together, from young to old…. “it just was”….. something that could be counted on.
    Parents not being able to be at home as much as they wish they could started buying things to make their kids happy; to the point, kids became spoiled, the beginning of the me/me generation.

    Now I think Woman should have the right to a career. But most would let it be a part time situation until there children were at least in school; given a choice.

    Now I’m not picking on Women,…. but I do think kids should have one parent as much as possible during their younger years.

  63. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Thanks Pep – as if I didn’t have a hard enough time sleeping…If I am not on the red list I am for sure on the blue one….

  64. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Pep what do you know about the only other time in world history that gay marriage was legal being in the times of Noah? someone mentioned that to me the other day but I haven’t had a chance to do any research on it…

  65. Cyndi Says:

    Alex Jones Show:What future will be like with Obama pt 1

    youtube.com/watch?v=islieHMmaxg&feature=related

    Here he talks about the internet being taken over by the gov. and how we are being tracked by all the sights we visit.

  66. Cyndi Says:

    Thank you Cindy! So did you watch the women’s lib video?

  67. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Hey TMom, Of course, it was during the time of Sodom and Gom.

  68. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Cindy – I think Al confused your post with something he thought I had said when he gave me a complement earlier today…so I officailly hand the complement off to you! 🙂

  69. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Cyndi.
    No I didn’t…..
    I would think woman lib would really hate what I said in that post……lol

  70. Cyndi Says:

    Oh thank you mom I’m not for sure what I said but thank you anyway. Who is Al? I guess I must have missed it.

  71. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Mom

    I thought so at that time,…. but hey… I’m here for conversation not credit
    but thank you anyhow

  72. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    TMom, I guess the truth is that it was “legal” or acceptable among the pagans until after Christ. There were many “godless” peoples that practiced homosexuality. But, you know the Bible said that “it would be as it were in the days of Noah”…and we are certainly in days that are like that!

  73. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Well, Pep, I just was wondering because Matthew 24:38 talks about how Christ will return (the end times) when things are on the earth as they were in the times of Noah. If gay marriage (official – not just socially acceptable as in Rome and Greece and, well, the USA anymore) was legal back then and it is becoming legal now, then it is just another sign….

  74. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Pep – we were typing at the same time…

  75. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Hey Cyndi, How could you forget Al! I know you have to remember him from API! I referred to him as the “mad moniker” because he was always changing his monikers! I teased him a lot about being a bot–which I still think he may be, but he’s at least one that is house trained…..

    sorry, Al, had to say it…

  76. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    TMom, do you remember the first sin after the flood?

  77. Cyndi Says:

    Cindy watch the video if you get a chance, he was saying that there were 2 reasons –
    1- they couldn’t tax half of America
    2- they could get children into schools at an early age as to teach our children how to think which breaks up the family to look at the state as the family and the school as the officials not at the parent teaching them

  78. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Pepper

    wasn’t it to do with Noah’s son Ham?

  79. Cyndi Says:

    pep I have read so much from so many it really is hard for me to remember anyone unless I have a conversation with me.

  80. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Pep – I am thinking it was Ham’s mocking Noah (not honoring his father) Do tell…

  81. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Hey Cyndi, I can understand that too.

  82. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Pep – methinks you are knee deep in ice cream and chocolate right now 🙂

  83. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Oh – there you are Pep!

  84. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Cyndi

    AL spent time over at API….he was a charactor to say they least….. he kinda became an accepted pest……
    __________
    Pepper

    Speaking of which…… Al…wanted to make sure you knew he said hello

  85. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    “Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brothers outside.” In the OT when it says that someone looked on someone’s nakedness, scholars believe that means they had sex with them. There are passages, if I recall from seminary days, to back this thought up. The belief is that Ham saw his dad lying there naked, passed out drunk, and he had some form of sex with him. He called his brothers in and when they saw their father’s “nakedness” they walked backwards to him and covered him up. Now, you have to know that in the wilds like that, men saw each other naked often. It wasn’t the nakedness. I’m sure living on an ark they had seen him naked! That’s the first “reported sin” that we are told of. It had to be something really major because of Noah’s reaction to Ham afterward and then the outcome of Ham’s clan.

  86. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    sorry I should have referenced that passage, Gen. 9:22

  87. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Thanks American Cindy– I saw his post, and hated I missed him. He really is a very nice person. He may not want that to me known, but he is. God bless him. After my husband wrecked his bike Al was always very kind to ask about his well-being.

  88. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    yes I remember that story ….many theories about what it exactly means…… I even heard the translation that it meant that Ham had sex with his Mother

  89. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    geeeez I already passed this test years ago……..lol

    Took the test waaaay back when I was 21 to become an Ordained Minister….on a dare

    Don’t use it for anything,… but it surprises people when they find it out about me..

  90. Cyndi Says:

    mom I am sorry I thought you were referring to this Cyndi I now realize it was the other Cindy, so sorry. And by the way I agree with Cindy on the issue whole heartedly. I think everything has gotten so technical and someone always knows how to run the country better. And it has only gotten worse. I am one of the ones that believes in the family and God. And that is where I feel we as a country have lost ourselves, sold our souls. Alot look up to the government to save them, when all they really need to be looking at is the bible and God’s word. Democracy is a majority ruling a minority. What if my beliefs are not of the majority, does that mean I as a citizen do not have the right to live my life freely, what if the majority is actually evil and corrupt do I have to live like them because they are the majority? The world I am afraid could be coming to an end as man has destroyed it. God told us this, and now my life and my children and grandchildren get to see the world’s demise. It is honestly so sad.

  91. Cyndi Says:

    I’ve gotta go for a bit, have to do laundry and clean house. I will be back later and you all have a great day!

  92. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Cyndi – don’t sweat the confusion – I get mixed up on here sometimes too! And don’t feel alone in your beliefs – there are many of us out here just like you!

    Pep – I had never really thought about that passage too much – but i think it is correct that there MUST have been something more too the story that Ham just seeing his dad naked to elicit the Generational curse Noah proclaimed on him! That make more sense – eeeewwww, though…

  93. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    I think most of us posting, if not all of us right at this time are women, and I’m sure there may be “lurkers”… but, I want to say this. I’m very cautious about “men” and being “proper”. It comes with my years of service and life experiences. I do have male friends that I feel perfectly comfortable having lunch with, and as long as a man understands and respects that I believe in and practice fidelity, then I don’t have a problem with guys at all…but I always try to let them know that I love my husband, and that I’m a one man woman–even if it might not be necessary to make that known. There are ways to do that without just having to come out and say that, and I’m sure I’m talking to women who understand this. I just want to put that out there. That’s one reason that I appreciated Al asking about my husband. I guess I’m just too old fashioned. My daughter is the same way. She doesn’t like for men to get “too familiar” with her either, and if she thinks it might happen, she will bring her husband into the conversation. I don’t know, I grew up with five brothers, and I like men…that doesn’t sound right… I like the fellowship and company of guys, but I also have to know that the proper boundaries are maintained. Like I said, I’m wayyy too old fashioned–but I “ain’t” got “no” plans of changing now!

  94. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I told someone once that questioned Religion and God…..

    If I live my whole life as if God’s words are true, if I try to obey all rules of the bible but just practicing one “living my life without intentually hurting others”
    When I die and I find there is nothing there,… I was wrong……. I still would of lead a good life..
    But if live your life, not bellieving in anything……. and you die and find you are wrong,…… you can not undo what you have already done.

  95. thinkingmom11 Says:

    And Cyndi it is sad, I never thought that I would see these days. There are some times (I can’t beleive I am going to say this) that when I see what is happening and I feel kinda bad that I had children. That they may have to live through some horrible, horrible times. Not that I regret having children – I love my kids more than anything – I just fear the kind of life they will have if things go the way some out there are proclaiming (UAFF for instance). All I know is that I will continue to live out my life the way God has called me too and the rest is what it is…

  96. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Just Cindy, You and I have so much in common! that philosophy about religion and life and God is one that I have lived by and shared with people who have challenged my beliefs.

  97. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I need to check out for a while – gotta do some grocery shopping…check in with you fine folks later.

  98. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Pepper

    I am not a church person,.. I was raised to believe in God,…… and I do..
    I don’t talk about my beliefs much,… I do not try to press my ideals on others,…… Because God gave us the biggest freedom of choice he could give…… the right to choose to have faith or not……

  99. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    c u l8r Mom

    have fun shopping…. lol… I’m going tomorrow and I’m dreading it

  100. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    and I need to get busy……. sooooo much to do……but I hate to leave good company…..

  101. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    me too…bbl and Cindy, I agree with you on that…

  102. jonathanwrightesq Says:

    The christian bible teaches its followers not to worship false gods.

    If I was born into the Hindu faith followed the morals and teaching and at the end find out I was born into the wrong faith would I be punished by god for believing in the wrong religion? Is it worse to not believe in god versus believing in the wrong god?

  103. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    esq

    Both would be equality wrong,
    because the Bible says that only belief in him will allow passage into heaven… (technically and proper verbage Romans 6:23)

    None believers as well as those believing in other god do not qualify under that passage……

    But is it a wrong God or just God called another name?
    I think Native Americans will make it into heaven,… because they paralle (sp) the christian Religion…… I do not know enough about other religions to give an opinoin

  104. oo12oo Says:

    Thank you, Susan. Glad you got the message (flashing a thumbs up to Rosetta’ and Ksinde for alerting you). Checked in briefly to determine if anyone has heard anything more about the alledged audio-recording of Mrs. Obama or the whereabouts of the Imam, etc…racing back out to do battle with Mother Nature’s wintry mix. Safe travels, Susan. Have a wonderful evening ladies and gentlemen.

    Al

    PS: Susan, why are you still using Peppermintpatty777 instead of your original sfl777, and what’s the fascination with triple sevens (does it mean you’re always 111 paces ahead of the beast in the Books of Revelations?) At any rate, take care lady. Peace.

  105. jonathanwrightesq Says:

    I was thinking specifically of the 10 commandments.

    You shall have no other gods but me.

    Almost all of the worlds religion put some forbiddence on other religions I can not see how any rational person could sort what would be the correct one or not. Christianity in the time frame is one of the newer ones but the big umbrella of christianity makes it the largest above Islam at number 2 and than hindus. Someone that grows up and is only exposed to the teaching around them are going to end up believing that is the one true faith it seems unfair that god would punish those that never even heard of christianity.

    I approach life as a Secular Humanist where a belief in God (or what God) is completely optional. It is more important to conduct yourself under a humanist moral code. Do what is best for society and believe that harmful actions resonate throughout society.

  106. jrinNC Says:

    Rosetta I have been following your blog for over a month now and I have to say I am extremely impressed not only with your articles, but your commenters also. I don’t normally blog, but I just found something on API site under a recent post entitled, “The True Story of a Kenyan Bishop….” I found this extremely enlightening in view of all the talk about Obama and Larry Sinclair. I quote, “The prediction came only a few days after Senator Barrack Obama jnr had visited Kisumu City where bhe and his wife Michelle Obama had gone for an HIV/Aids test and made an extensive tour of his Alego-Kogelo ancestral home.” Imagine that – HIV/Aids test. Why would they have had to do that if he wasn’t guilty of fooling around with other women or should I say men?????? Keep up the good work and let’s pray that God intervenes very soon.

  107. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    esq.. you are asking me if I think they should be punished…I do not know that answer,… and it is not for me to decide

  108. thinkingmom11 Says:

    OK – not that I really WANT to have a discussion about religion with Jon but here goes…

    There is a reason Christ commanded the apostles to go into all the earth and spread the gospel. So that all men would be able to hear the truth. That being said: God is just and will hold people accountable for what “light” they have been exposed to. Therefore, I think that someone who has NEVER EVER heard the gospel or learned anything of Christ will not be held accountable in God’s eyes. But if you have heard the truth of Christ and reject it – well then, you will be held accountable. The thing to remember is that God is just and merciful and it is not up to us to determine what someone’s judgement should be. He created and sustains everything and has the right to make the rules. They are not complicated rules though they are sometimes hard to follow which is why I am thankful that his mercies are new everyday.

  109. thinkingmom11 Says:

    And as far as not beleiving in God at all – the Lord tells us that His glory (and reality) is revealed in His creation ie:the earth and all that is in it etc. So basically, to look around this incredibly complex and beautiful world and universe and to deny God would be a sin against God. It doesn’t matter how good a person you try to be, you are a sinner. You may argue that you don’t think you sin and I will say that you need to address your pride first and foremost. You may say “I don’t lie” – I will say Not even a little white lie, not even a little excuse for being late or forgetting something? Really? You may say “I don’t steal” I say not even a pen or a paperclip from the office? You may say “I haven’t committed adultry” I ask if you have ever looked at a woman with lust – Christ says they are the same sin. So all of us sin and fall short of the glory of God.

    Jon – do you believe in heaven?

  110. jjones35811 Says:

    ewww… a religeon debate… this won’t end well

  111. Tenacity Says:

    It is not a good idea to in any way put God into a box. Who he includes in His Son’s family (church) is totally up to Him. However, he has given us His Word which is the truth that is the Holy Scripture. He has provided us with only one perfect sacrifice that purchases us out of sin and covers us with His righteousness that we may be reconciled. He only asks that we accept His gift by being obedient to His God ordained expression of faith.
    What I read of Esq is human logic which is no better than human works. They do not have the purchasing power to sustain one eternally. Read what the Christ says to the stoics, the gnostics, the pharisees, the sadducees and to all those in and out of the Church. It is the heart that God seeks. That requires the surrender of self. Humanism is all about self. Naturalism is all about self. The other world religions are a distraction from the one and only perfect sacrifice. Religion is not the answer at all, not even the religion of christianity will sustain you eternally. It is our faith and ultimately our relationship with Him that will sustain us. How we live and what we do is then a burden that is born out of that faith. Works are important and will be rewarded, but they don’t buy the ticket.

  112. thinkingmom11 Says:

    That is right on the money Tenacity…God knows our hearts and many who claim Christ will hear Him say “You say to me Lord, Lord, but I never knew you.” (I am going to beg out of this discussion at this point – I am not as eloquent as I should be on the matter – but I am trying and studying 🙂 )

  113. Tenacity Says:

    jj,
    I agree that this engagement is destined to leave some running, some fighting and some just tired. On the slim chance that someone may just get that God shaped vacuum filled that all of us have, it is worth it. If I know that someone is walking a path that will destroy them, should I not tell them. If I don’t report what I know and someone dies, then their blood is on me. If I report what I know and they proceed on the dangerous path, then their blood is on them.

  114. rosettasister Says:

    jrinNC Says:
    November 24, 2008 at 9:24 pm

    —————————

    Welcome jr!

    Sorry it took me so long to get to you!

    I hope you see this.

    You should be able to post at will now.

    To avoid moderation when posting a link

    No http

    No www

    like this

    rosettasister.wordpress.com

    Rose

  115. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Ok my last post on the subject…..:)

    God knew us before we were born… he knew our heart.

    Our time on earth is a test to see if we keep our faith or find our faith during our struggles while we are here.

  116. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    now….. gotta get dinner started…….ttyl

  117. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Looks like Leo in on Lam tonite…

  118. jjones35811 Says:

    I just found a long time ago that no matter how much the debate goes on, usually the 2 parties never end up convincing each other of anything and just end up just p1ssing each other off

  119. jjones35811 Says:

    Ok, other than the unwinnable debate, did I miss anything important while I was at work?

  120. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Lam has an interesting article revealing an 1861 court case that defined Natural Born Citizen. It is legalese so it is not easy reading but here is the interesting section:

    All persons born in the allegiance of the king are natural born subjects, and all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural born citizens. Birth and allegiance go together. Such is the rule of the common law, and it is the common law of this country, as well [**18] as of England. There are two exceptions, and only two, to the universality of its application. The children of ambassadors are in theory born in the allegiance of the powers the ambassadors represent, and slaves, in legal contemplation, are property, and not persons. 2 Kent, Comm. 1; Calvin’s Case, 7 Coke, 1; 1 Bl. Comm. 366; Lynch v. Clarke, 1 Sand. Ch. 583.

    I had read basically this in the Blackstone commentaries the other day. I think the general consesus on Lam’s sight (obviously not exactly impartial) is that dual citizenship affects your allegiance. Birth and allegiance both count toward the Natural Born Status.

    My reasoning in this too tells me that the “ambassador” clause would allow McCain to be considered a Natural Born Citizen due to his father being in the employ of the government being the reason he was born in a foreign country. His allegiance is not in question just as an “ambassdors” child’s allegiance would not be questioned.

    This is just MHO! I wouldn’t be surprised if I am wrong!

  121. sliderblaze Says:

    whats new people

  122. thinkingmom11 Says:

    JJ – things have been pretty quite around here news-wise…

  123. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Hey Slider how ya been? Not much new around here – news front is pretty quiet but Leo is going to be on Lam tonight so that should be interesting

  124. Foxtrot Says:

    Hello everyone. I only have a minute or two but I had to post something. I just was on AOL and read an article regarding whether or not Hillary was eligible to be Secretary of State because of a little known clause in the Constitution stating she cannot go UP in salary. What the frick?!?!?!? They are questioning THAT and most people won’t question where Obama was born and whether or not he was a “natural born” citizen?

    Here is the good news. For the first time, and I consider AOL a part of the MSM, they actually discuss the controversy surrounding Obama’s birth and his potentially fraudulent Selective Service document. Here is the link. It is a must read!

    http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/11/24/hillary-ineligible-for-cabinet-post/

  125. Foxtrot Says:

    Oops, sorry Rosetta. I didn’t read your post above until after I posted this link. Hope it is okay anyway.

  126. jjones35811 Says:

    I’ve been having an e-mail conversation/debate with my VERY liberal mother regarding the BC issue. Wow, it is EXTREMELY difficult to convince a lib that BO is not who everyone thinks he is….She still doesn’t see the problem even when presented with the facts. She is by no means un-educated or uninelligent. I just can’t seem to get it across to her…Any ideas?

  127. Foxtrot Says:

    jjones — I am a liberal and I am convinced. I did my own homework and kept an open mind while doing the research. Country before Party . . ALWAYS!

  128. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Sounds like Leo is supposed to be on Lam’s radio show RIGHT NOW – but he is missing…

  129. jjones35811 Says:

    Foxtrot,
    what was it that convinced you?

  130. Foxtrot Says:

    I went on the obamacrimes.com website and got the names/addresses of all the Supreme Court Justices. I typed a letter and sent one to each of them today asking them to look long and hard at the Berg lawsuit and to ask to see the birth certificate and the college records for Obama. Berg’s comes up on December 1st. I am told thousands of others may have done the same thing I did. If you have not, get going! It is too important and time is running out!

  131. amy Says:

    Hi everybody.. I am doing some reasearch here.. I understand there are 3 filings related to THE ONES birth that have made it all the way to the U. S. Supreme Court: Bergs, Donofrios and WHO is the other one?? Heard Leo talking with a ?Kort? on Ed hales.. Who is this third case and what is it all about? Anybody?

  132. jjones35811 Says:

    Foxtrot,
    Yes been there, signed the petitions, wrote the elector for AL. did all that . I’m trying to do my part. 🙂
    I made a vow to defend the constitution in ’82. I still hold myself to that vow

  133. jjones35811 Says:

    Amy,
    maybe you mean the Keyes.. that’s actually in CA supreme court.
    try this site
    americamustknow.com/default.aspx
    it lists all the known cases

  134. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Amy I am not sure that there is a third case at SCOTUS…Leo is on Lam now in the next couple of minutes – he just called in

  135. amy Says:

    No, NOT Keyes

  136. jjones35811 Says:

    Amy,
    Only 2 in US supreme court

  137. amy Says:

    Whoever it is, was also on with Leo last week on Ed Hales.. Leo was commending this person for getting this far without being a lawyer.

  138. jjones35811 Says:

    mom,
    link please?

  139. Foxtrot Says:

    jjones — I am what someone might call a “political insider”. I ran political campaigns for the Democratic Party in three states and was very successful at it. In addition, I was one of the youngest females to ever sit on a State Democratic board. I knew everyone who should be known in the Party. I still fervently believe in the principles of my Party, but the Party has been hijacked by the likes of Dean, Pelosi and Obama.

    Something simply didn’t smell right from the get-go about Obama’s candidacy. Then, by happenstance, I was online and came across Larry Sinclair’s website. Now, personally, I don’t care if someone is gay or straight. My sister is gay and I have close friends who are gay. What I did marvel at on the site was how Sinclair was trying to get Obama to tell the truth about the drug use at first, not about the sex. However, when Obama launched his attack dogs on Sinclair, it showed me he might be hiding something. After doing further research and discovering he had all his college records, his long version of his birth record, his health records —all sealed. And it was equally odd how no one from his past was coming forward to speak about “what a great roommate he was in college” or “I dated him in high school”. There was absolutely nothing! Everyone was silenced.

    It truly did not take a rocket scientist to figure out he was hiding something and it had to be big. To sum it up, I don’t trust anyone who holds that many secrets. It was so difficult for me to not vote for the Democratic nominee, but I simply could not do it in good conscience. I also contacted some of my friends on the inside of the DNC and they were so worried that the birth certificate issue would explode on them, but they were counting on “white guilt” to keep it at bay. Well, it worked . . . at least so far.

    I know this was long, but I wanted you and others to understand where I was coming from. There are millions of other “liberals” who feel the same way. That is why I detest people lumping us all into one category. Just like Conservatives hate to be lumped together as well. We are all different.

  140. amy Says:

    I have those 2 on the dockets.. Just trying to figure out who was on with Leo on Ed Hales last week.. Leo kept referring to him as Kort (? Cort? )

  141. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Actually I refreshed and the stuff on Lam’s radio is a rebroadcast

  142. jjones35811 Says:

    Foxtrot…
    Can I get you to contact my mother ?:-)

  143. thinkingmom11 Says:

    lanlamphere.com/

    then listen live

  144. thinkingmom11 Says:

    lanlamphere.com/audio/livejava.php

    this is the radio link – i can’t get the main page to come up…

  145. jjones35811 Says:

    Amy,
    Cort Wrotnowski
    Case in Conn. dismissed

  146. jjones35811 Says:

    Mom, nevermind I found it, it’s a re-broadcast

  147. Foxtrot Says:

    jjones — If you send me her email address, I would be more than happy to. This isn’t about Democrat or Republican. It isn’t about black or white. It isn’t about Liberal or Conservative. It is about the Constitution of the United States of America, and that is worth fighting for.

  148. thinkingmom11 Says:

    JJ – I didn’t get to hear it the other night so I am going to listen for a while. BUT I think he is going to be back on live tonight…I can’t seem to get Lan’s site to load up again to check on that for sure though

  149. jjones35811 Says:

    Foxtrot,
    I was kidding of course, but that is the argument I was trying to make wth her…
    I too was a democrat at one point, I actually was a voluteer for carter’s re-election campaign. I have since seen the error of my ways 😉

  150. Foxtrot Says:

    jj- I was the reverse. Was a republican up to age 20, then saw the error of my ways. 🙂
    To each his/her own. Glad we have a two party system. A monopoly will never do for “checks and balances”.

  151. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    mom

    If you ever want to listen to it again…. or just parts of it…… it’s on my blog….. in the youtube submissions……. it’s on youtube now also

  152. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Is anyone else having trouble getting onto Lanlamphere.com/public ?

  153. jjones35811 Says:

    Foxtrot,
    actually, I’m not really a republican either, I’m more independant than anything. If only the repubs could loose the christian right, I’d be on board

  154. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Thanks cindy I will have to remember that! This one is the one where he is talking about the misconduct at the Court – he is REALLY TICKED OFF!!

  155. jjones35811 Says:

    Mom, it loads for me.. a little slow, but it loads

  156. Foxtrot Says:

    My husband is an Independent as well. As I said, good to have balance in any and all things.

    Gotta go and lay down. Still recovering from the hospital stay. I will touch base tomorrow. I hope people got to go to the link I posted above about “eligibility”. Well, politics is never dull! I think that is why I love it so much.

  157. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Thanks JJ – I have usually really fast service but the site was still not loaded after 3 minutes…oh well, the radio is still playing

    Fox – take care!

  158. jjones35811 Says:

    Foxtrot,
    That was an interesting link, too bad, I think it was the ONLY thing I have agreed with BO on

  159. amy Says:

    jjones ty

  160. thinkingmom11 Says:

    JJ – what link? I like links…

  161. jjones35811 Says:

    amy,
    yw ?

  162. amy Says:

    Lams interview with Leo is repeat of last week.

  163. thinkingmom11 Says:

    i found it – wasn’t looking high enough…

  164. jjones35811 Says:

    Mom,
    /news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/11/24/hillary-ineligible-for-cabinet-post/
    Say’s HRC not elligible to be Sec. of State

  165. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Yeah – I read up on that and it sounds like Senators MUST serve out the term they were elected for and may not be appointed to any other position. I thought Obama was supposed to be a Constitutional lawyer/scholar….what a bozo

  166. jjones35811 Says:

    heh… I couldn’t have said it better mom…what a bozo indeed!

  167. rosettasister Says:

    Update on “B” versus “S” thing at bottom of post above

    WITHIN EACH IMAGE, COMPARE THE “S” IN “LASER” TO “S” IN “OHSM”

    ——————————

    ThinkingMom

    I went back and looked at image we were looking at yesterday and the “S” in OHSM does NOT look like “S” in laser

    1600x

    https://rosettasister.wordpress.com/2008/11/23/%e2%80%9cletting-the-sabre-tooth-tiger-out-of-the-bag%e2%80%9d-by-polarik/

  168. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I tend to agree with you on that, Rose…it sure looks like it be a B

  169. rosettasister Says:

    Thanks, TM!

    Maybe I’m not crazy after all!

  170. Tenacity Says:

    Hi Amy,
    This from WND:
    Connecticut resident Cort Wrotnowski challenged the authenticity of Obama’s birth certificate on Oct. 31, and asked the court to order Secretary of State Susan Bysiewicz to verify Obama’s citizenship before allowing the candidate to appear on the state ballot. State Supreme Court Chief Justice Chase T. Rogers threw out the case for lack of jurisdiction within a half hour of reviewing it.

    “I have not seen the ruling yet,” Wrotnowski told WND. “So, in reality, the case was not heard on its merits. … Currently, we are assembling information for another and better try.”

    Cort is in the process of formally engaging Leo Donofrio as his attorney to file with the SCOTUS. Donofrio is excited about Cort’s case and I believe it was filed today. Ginsberg may be looking at and will likely reject it and then Cort expects to go to Roberts next.

  171. jjones35811 Says:

    rose,
    Is that up for a vote ? 😉

  172. rosettasister Says:

    jjones35811 Says:
    November 25, 2008 at 12:53 am

    ——————

    rose,
    Is that up for a vote ? 😉

    —————–

    hey if obama can win then anything is possible!

  173. thinkingmom11 Says:

    brb

  174. jjones35811 Says:

    Rose,
    ok, I guess you have a point there….

  175. Tenacity Says:

    jjones35811 Says:

    November 25, 2008 at 1:01 am
    Rose,
    ok, I guess you have a point there….

    **************
    Wait…I want to vote…no better yet, lets start a pool.

    I’m giving 2 to 1 odds its an S.

  176. jjones35811 Says:

    Well, I’ll take the long shot and say it’s a “Q”

  177. amy Says:

    Tenacity.. Ok . Thanks.. That was what I was looking for..Do you know if there is a docket number?

  178. amy Says:

    Ok, just checked. Not on docket

  179. Tenacity Says:

    amy Says:

    November 25, 2008 at 1:09 am
    Tenacity.. Ok . Thanks.. That was what I was looking for..Do you know if there is a docket number?

    **********
    I’m not certain that it was filed today. Cort said Friday night that they planned to file today. However, Donofrio was collaborating with him and they may not have been ready this morning. I will keep checking to see if I can find a confirmation.

  180. amy Says:

    ty Tenacity

  181. jrinNC Says:

    rosettasister Says:
    November 24, 2008 at 11:32 pm

    jrinNC Says:
    November 24, 2008 at 9:24 pm

    —————————

    Welcome jr!

    Sorry it took me so long to get to you!

    I hope you see this.

    You should be able to post at will now.

    To avoid moderation when posting a link

    No http

    No www

    like this

    rosettasister.wordpress.com

    Rose

    ===================================
    Thanks Rosetta – As much as I have been here I know the rules, but thanks for reminding me. I guess no one was interested in my comment regarding the article of BO and MO taking an HIV/Aids test in 2006. Oh well, I thought it was interesting to say the least. I really am enjoying this site and I look forward to posting here. Would like to say “hello” to everyone and I have been reading your comments here a very long time and am very impressed. I am a Christian and I am very disturbed by this whole BO thing.

  182. j.b. Says:

    .americasright.com/

    OMGosh! Anyone else seen this? Whoo-Hoo…………………!

  183. rosettasister Says:

    jrinNC Says:
    November 25, 2008 at 1:26 am

    ———————–

    As far as I can tell, jr, pretty nice bunch here.

    but they do come and go.

    sometimes it’s so quiet here you can hear crickets chirping

    I have noticed that some here are night owls

    way past my bedtime!

  184. hockeyfan530 Says:

    j.b. i did see that. It’s sickening. This is a simple fix. Show the damn bc…if he can. Polarik’s info should help when used. If the bc is forged there HAS to be something wrong. This is so frustrating

  185. j.b. Says:

    Slowly, but Shirley 🙂 it is c r e e p i n g out.
    I, too, avoid the religion discussion(s) but may I say, “Praise The Lord?!?”
    Yes I can! Maybe I am making TOO much of this, but, this feels like sunshine on an otherwise gloomy day.

  186. hockeyfan530 Says:

    j.b. you are talking about the press secretary right?

  187. jrinNC Says:

    Hey I am on your site off and on all day and well in to the early am – LOL. Not to mention I read article after article on all this BO stuff. So I too am pretty up-to-date on what is going on.

  188. j.b. Says:

    Yes, hockeyfan. Still smiling, see? 🙂

  189. rosettasister Says:

    This was just posted on previous thread:

    Don Maccank Says:
    November 25, 2008 at 1:36 am

    Subject: FOI request for Obama’s birth certificate –found on the internet at http://www.DailyJeff.com-has all 50 SOS emails-1 stop emailing!

    FOI REQUEST TO ALL SOS FOR OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE
    We need to find out what the SOS of the various States know about Obama’s birth certificate and qualifications to be president. If you have time, please send/fax/email the following FOI (freedom of information letter) to some or all of the SOS bureau of elections. After you get a response please post on http://www.obamacrimes.com, http://www.freerepublic.com, http://www.peoplespassions.org, http://americamustknow.com,www.rallycongress.com.
    1. The address , fax number and email address for the Bureau of elections for the states are at http://www.eac.gov.
    2. I like the faxes because they will respond quicker to them. Print off your generic FOI request and past/tape the next name over the top and fax it off. See emails listed below for all 50 SOS.Cut and paste to send all 50 at one time. Sit back and wait for answers.

    November 21, 2008
    TO: BUREAU OF ELECTIONS
    Bureau of Elections, California
    1500 11th St, 5th Floor FAX: 916-653-5634
    Sacramento, CA 95814 Email: elections@sos.ca.gov

    ATTN: Freedom of Information Officer
    REF: Freedom of Information Act Request/Privacy Act/ Open Meeting Act, Common Law
    This is a request under the Freedom of Information Act. Please send the following documents for examining and photocopying:
    1. Documents that show that Barack Obama is qualified to be President of the United States , including but not limited to:
    a. Original birth certificate
    b. Proof that he is a natural born United States citizen
    c. Proof that he was born in Kenya
    AS you know , the FOIA provides that if a portions of a document are exempt from release, the remainder must be segregated and disclosed. Therefore, I would like to examine all nonexempt portions of the records that I requested and I ask that you justify and deletions by citing specific exemptions of the FOIA
    This is a continuing request into the future for 6 months.
    If this is not the proper department, please forward to the Election Bureau/SOS.
    I promise to pay reasonable search and duplication fees in connection with this request. (Note: The FOIA permit some fee reduction or waivers).
    Please notify me if the charges will exceed ($20.00), so that I can decide whether to authorize a higher amount.
    Thank you for your assistance, I look forward to receiving your reply within five business days, as required by law.

    Sincerely,
    Robert Johnson
    123 Main St
    Anywhere , CA

    Cc: Clerk of the US Supreme Court
    One First Street N.E.
    Washington, DC 20543
    FAX: (209) 479-3021

    WARNING
    Should any person try to cover up this request or documents herein, BE YOU HEREBY PUT ON NOTICE: You may be indicted under USC Title 18 Sec. 3. 4, 2381, 2382, 2383, and 2384. Also, 4 U.S.C. & 101, federal law requires all state employees and officers take an oath of office and records kept of such administered oath.

    Jeannie.price@sos.alabama.gov,governor@alaska.gov,governorsoffice@asg-gov.net,

    sosadmin@azsos.gov,sos@sosmail.state.ar.us,constituentaffairs@sos.ca.gov,

    secretary@state.co.us ,susan.bysiewicz@po.state.ct.us ,lorilee.harrison@state.de.us ,

    Stephanie.scott@dc.gov,secretaryofstate@dos.state.fl.us,sosweb@sos.state.ga.us,

    elections@aloha.net,sosinfo@sos.idaho.gov,JWhite@ilos.net,

    constituentservices@sos.in.gov,sos@sos.state.ia.us,kssos@kssos.org,sos.secretary@ky.gov,

    bobby.jindal@la.gov,sos.office@maine.gov,bmorris@sos.state.md.us,

    agoweb@state.ma.us,secretary@michigan.gov,secretary.state@state.mn.us,

    administrator@sos.state.ms.us,sosmain@sos.mo.gov,sos@mt.gov,receptionist@sos.ne.gov,

    sosmail@sos.nv.gov,elections@sos.state.nh.us,feedback@sos.state.nj.us,

    nmsos@state.nm.us,info@dos.state.ny.us,emarshal@sosnc.com,sos@nd.gov,

    tworley@sos.state.oh.us,governor@gov.state.ok.us,Oregon.sos@state.or.us,

    pcortes@state.pa.us,correo@fortaleza.gobierno.pr,comments@sec.state.ri.us,

    rdaggerhart@sos.sc.gov,sdsos@state.sd.us,phil.bredesen@state.tn.us,

    secretary@sos.state.tx.us,mshurtleff@utah.gov,dmarkowitz@sec.state.vt.us,

    justice@usvi.org,soc@governor.virginia.gov,mail@secstate.wa.gov,

    wvsos@wvsos.com,wigov@gov.state.wi.us,secofstate@state.wy.us,

  190. hockeyfan530 Says:

    isn’t it wild how many negative reports on Obama are not found when you go to the link? Apparantly tulsa reported on this today

    tulsatoday.com/newsdesk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1799&Itemid=2

  191. rosettasister Says:

    Good night, all!

  192. Tenacity Says:

    j.b.
    I was over at Schreiber’s site looking for news of Wrotnowski filing at the SCOTUS and saw the article about Fratto dodging the BC question. I came back here to mention it and you had beat me to the punch. It is definitely a HOT potato. Too many wimps to the right of us! Just good to see the question being asked…that’s progress.

  193. D S Lamont Says:

    One of the key lessons of Keynes is the importance of international economic cooperation – including the international coordination of key economic policies, building up effective international economic institutions, and safeguarding free trade. This is all discussed, in Keynes’ historical context, in Donald Markwell’s book “John Maynard Keynes and International Relations”. It and biographies of Keynes, like Donald Moggridge’s, are very helpful in thinking and working our way – nationally and globally – through the present muddle.

  194. jrinNC Says:

    Good night Rosetta – thanks for accepting me on your blog.

  195. wndawmn666 Says:

    Hi Everyone,

    Great article here about BO. Particularly the indication that Jeremiah Wright was a distraction from the Larry Sinclair, drug, murder, rumors.

    Also speculates about BOs dad.

    proliberty.com/observer/20080904.htm

  196. Troy Says:

    Leo will be on the air in 7 mins

    plainsradio.com/chat.html

  197. Cyndi Says:

    hockeyfan I can’t get to that site.

  198. hockeyfan530 Says:

    I couldn’t either. I thought maybe it was just my browser.

    I just find it odd how many links are “not found”.

  199. Cyndi Says:

    Did you all see that Monica Lewinsky could be returning to the White House.
    In the spirit of change and a new beginning for Washington, D.C., the Office of the President Elect today announced that former White House intern Monica Lewinsky has accepted the nomination to a new cabinet position in the Obama administration.

    feedyouradhd.blogspot.com/2008/11/monica-to-service-country.html

  200. jrinNC Says:

    wndawmn666 Says:
    November 25, 2008 at 1:50 am

    Good article, his so-called liaisons with Sinclair must have been why he and MO took an HIV/Aids test in 2006 while making an extensive tour of his Alego-Kogelo ancestral home. Posted on this earlier at November 24, 2008 at 9:24 pm

  201. Cyndi Says:

    Man I need to go buy the paper.

  202. hockeyfan530 Says:

    cindy are you in OK?

  203. j.b. Says:

    j.b.
    I was over at Schreiber’s site looking for news of Wrotnowski filing at the SCOTUS and saw the article about Fratto dodging the BC question. I came back here to mention it and you had beat me to the punch. It is definitely a HOT potato. Too many wimps to the right of us! Just good to see the question being asked…that’s progress.

    ************************************************:)

  204. j.b. Says:

    oops! I meant to say, 🙂

  205. Tenacity Says:

    http: //www.plainsradio.com/show.html

    just delete the spaces after pasting.

  206. j.b. Says:

    feedyouradhd.blogspot.com/2008/11/monica-to-service-country.html
    *********************************

    Nuh-uh. Is that a joke?

    Seriously.

  207. hockeyfan530 Says:

    isn’t ed hale kind of an idiot?

  208. j.b. Says:

    I would think that if BO had any inclination that he might be infected, he would take that test in private. imo.

  209. Tenacity Says:

    Hale is such a liar…he’s saying he had 21.5MM listening Friday night…come on. Leo is supposed to check in sometime in the next 2 hours for an update. I will try to let you know when he is coming on the show.

  210. Troy Says:

    hockeyfan530 Says:

    November 25, 2008 at 2:09 am
    isn’t ed hale kind of an idiot?
    ———————————–
    He’a a lying blowhole

  211. Cyndi Says:

    hockeyfan yes I am an Okie

  212. Troy Says:

    He said last Wed. night he had 21.5 million listeners…pfffft….Pleaseeeee……His site meter at the bottom of the page says he has had 1,302,096 visitors since July

  213. j.b. Says:

    isn’t ed hale kind of an idiot?
    ***************************

    Kinda sounds like one to me(I know that ‘s not nice)……Maybe it’s the accent. But.
    I like a good southern accent. Perhaps it’s the accent AND then the false teeth sloshin’ around while he blabs on and on and on.

    Oops, I think I said too much!

  214. Troy Says:

    j.b. Says:

    November 25, 2008 at 2:14 am
    isn’t ed hale kind of an idiot?
    ***************************

    Kinda sounds like one to me(I know that ’s not nice)……Maybe it’s the accent. But.
    I like a good southern accent. Perhaps it’s the accent AND then the false teeth sloshin’ around while he blabs on and on and on.

    Oops, I think I said too much!
    ——————————————–
    As a Texan I can say he is an embarrassment

  215. j.b. Says:

    and the phlegm…………

  216. Cyndi Says:

    isn’t ed hale kind of an idiot?
    ***************************

    Kinda sounds like one to me(I know that ’s not nice)……Maybe it’s the accent. But.
    I like a good southern accent. Perhaps it’s the accent AND then the false teeth sloshin’ around while he blabs on and on and on.

    Oops, I think I said too much!
    **************************
    I really don’t know that I care for Ed Hale, but he could be Mr. Magoo for all I care as long as the word gets out.

  217. Tenacity Says:

    Troy Says:

    As a Texan I can say he is an embarrassment
    **************
    translation: that means he is a BIIIIIIIIGGGGG embarrassment

  218. Troy Says:

    Did y’all know that Ed Hale is on a crusade to sabatage Phil Berg’s case at the Supreme Court?

  219. Troy Says:

    Danny Glover is a commie traitor

  220. j.b. Says:

    What’s Ed going to attempt to derail Berg’s case?

  221. Troy Says:

    Sending letters to SCOTUS saying Berg is a scam artist and has been defrauding people

  222. Tenacity Says:

    Troy,
    Has Hale actually done anything to indicate that is true? I took those emails with a whole shaker of salt. First, Hale may have been dumb enough to send such bullying bulls__t, but I see him a huge bluffer…too lazy to actual take such action.

  223. Troy Says:

    I’m just going by what he says he’s been doing

  224. Troy Says:

    Ed Hale calling other people idiots…Lmaooo….now that is rich!!!

  225. Cyndi Says:

    They say they have Leo on the phone now, but we’re in commercial break

  226. Tenacity Says:

    Troy Says:

    November 25, 2008 at 2:26 am
    Sending letters to SCOTUS saying Berg is a scam artist and has been defrauding people

    **************
    That would be a solid slander suit.

  227. dixieinflorida Says:

    Is this show going on right now a reply of Fridays show? Sounds like it

  228. sliderblaze Says:

    leo……

  229. Tenacity Says:

    Keep in mind that just a couple weeks ago, Hale said he hired Berg to represent him to get the MO tape from K. I guess he was willing to hire a scammer.

    Leo is on.

  230. Troy Says:

    Leo will be on to update us about the judicial misconduct filed against NJ judge

  231. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I see that Leo is going to be live on Lan’s show at 9CST…

  232. Troy Says:

    yes

  233. thinkingmom11 Says:

    hey Troy

  234. wndawmn666 Says:

    Check out Justice Clarence Thomas speaking about Government and the Constitution last month.

    Skip to minute 17:00. That is where it gets good.

    If you don’t want to sit through ten minutes, you can also skip to around 28:00 where he talks about how they remain neutral and fair.

  235. wndawmn666 Says:

    Check out Justice Clarence Thomas speaking about Government and the Constitution last month.

    Skip to minute 17:00. That is where it gets good.

    If you don’t want to sit through ten minutes, you can also skip to around 28:00 where he talks about how they remain neutral and fair.

    c-spanarchives.org/library/includes/templates/library/flash_popup.php?pID=281823-1&searchphrase=Clarence%20Thomas

  236. Tenacity Says:

    Majestic,
    I can’t say for sure it’s live, but Friday’s show started with Wrotnowski and this one didn’t.

  237. Troy Says:

    This show is live

  238. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I think so too – he was discussing that Briscoe case – that was the first I had heard him speak of that one…

    I just read that Colmes is leaving Hannity and Colmes…

  239. Tenacity Says:

    No question it is live, they are talking about today.

  240. Troy Says:

    I just read that Colmes is leaving Hannity and Colmes…
    —————————————————–
    Weeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  241. Tenacity Says:

    I wonder if Esq is looking for a job? He couldn’t look any worse than Colmes. I just hope they don’t … what is that shrill voiced female’s name?

  242. sliderblaze Says:

    susan estrich?

  243. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I LOVE it – Leo calls Ed STUPID HA HA HA HA

  244. j.b. Says:

    susan estrich?

    LOL!

  245. Troy Says:

    thinkingmom11 Says:

    November 25, 2008 at 2:57 am
    I LOVE it – Leo calls Ed STUPID HA HA HA HA

    ———————————————–
    hehehe

  246. Tenacity Says:

    Yeah Slider…God forbid. Did they announce Colmes replacement?

    Ed is a Jacka**

  247. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Susan Estrich sounds like my old college roommate after a wild night on the town – too much beer, too many cigarettes and too much karayoke!!

  248. sliderblaze Says:

    too much beer, cigs and cocaine

  249. Troy Says:

    Ok, I’ve heard enough of ED

  250. j.b. Says:

    Leo called Ed “stupid”? I wonder why he’s on his show?

  251. sliderblaze Says:

    not, good, cant get on lan’s show

  252. Troy Says:

    for exposure

  253. Troy Says:

    sliderblaze Says:

    November 25, 2008 at 3:05 am
    not, good, cant get on lan’s show
    ———————————-
    Yep, same as last time….I was on it an hour ago and now can’t get back there

  254. thinkingmom11 Says:

    new link at API saying well, if you care, go check it out – I would link it but my right click button is not cooperating…you know you all have API on your fave list anyway 😉

  255. sliderblaze Says:

    me too

  256. sliderblaze Says:

    honestly, it crashed firefox

  257. thinkingmom11 Says:

    JB – Ed was suggesting taking up arms and Leo got a little snarky and told Ed to stop being stupid – it was really quite funny….

    I have been having trouble with Lan’s site all day

  258. sliderblaze Says:

    so can anyone get on?

  259. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I am getting the “Internet Explorer cannot display this page” grrrrrrr

  260. sliderblaze Says:

    https://www .reciva. com/index.php?option=com_cloud&action=station&stationid=23736#

    you know the drill

    alt. site

  261. Troy Says:

    Something is very fishy here….2nd show in a row at Lan Lamphere when Leo is going to be there and IE or FF neither one will pull up Lan’s site or his radio show

  262. sliderblaze Says:

    .reciva. com/index.php?option=com_cloud&action=station&stationid=23736#

    put in the w w w

    alt site for lan

  263. j.b. Says:

    Thanks, Mom. 🙂

  264. sliderblaze Says:

    .reciva.com/index.php?option=com_cloud&action=station&stationid=23736#

    sorry, i had a space after the . c o m

  265. j.b. Says:

    I can’t get that c-span video to play…. I keep clickin’ on it and clickin’ on it…….ugh-I swear if Obama broke my ‘puter again…………dang it!

  266. Troy Says:

    sliderblaze Says:

    November 25, 2008 at 3:13 am
    .reciva. com/index.php?option=com_cloud&action=station&stationid=23736#

    put in the w w w

    alt site for lan
    ————————-
    nope wouldn’t work either

  267. Troy Says:

    sliderblaze Says:

    November 25, 2008 at 3:14 am
    .reciva.com/index.php?option=com_cloud&action=station&stationid=23736#

    sorry, i had a space after the . c o m

    ——————————————-
    no dice again

  268. Tenacity Says:

    I’ve tried numerous portals and they are all down. Home page says “try again later”
    Someone called Hale’s show and asked about the Lamphere site being down and that Wednesday night show guy Bob said he would contact Lan directly and report back.

  269. thinkingmom11 Says:

    grrrrrr

  270. sliderblaze Says:

    hmmmmm…..it’s working for me. all i can say is google lan lamphere radio stations and look from there

  271. ldog70 Says:

    Hey all NEW UPDATE FROM API!!!!!!!!
    //africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/11/25/update-om-michelle-obama-tape-the-airing-date-and-the-imams-birth-dacument-on-mr-obama/#comment-86488

    Looks like it could be a VERY THANKSGIVING this year!!!!!!!!!!!!

  272. sliderblaze Says:

    the site i’m on is a UK site

  273. j.b. Says:

    I got on Lan’s site but it is not live. 10 p.m. (est) was supposed to be a start time. I called the phone number to ask, “what’s up”? It was busy……….*shrugs*

  274. sliderblaze Says:

    he’s talking about the problems, try now?

  275. j.b. Says:

    I’ll believe it when I hear it, dog. I can’t chase that tail any longer-gettin’ dizzy. youknowhatimean. 🙂

  276. sliderblaze Says:

    they are talking about mccarthy v briscoe

  277. Troy Says:

    Lans sites are being blocked

  278. j.b. Says:

    Anyone watching Greta? Totally off topic…………but, STILL, that awful Joran Vandrslut said he SOLD Natalie Hollowway!
    For 10 thousand dollars.

  279. dixieinflorida Says:

    Troy Says:
    November 25, 2008 at 3:13 am

    Something is very fishy here….2nd show in a row at Lan Lamphere when Leo is going to be there and IE or FF neither one will pull up Lan’s site or his radio show
    ******************
    good it’s not just me but I am running a scan because I’ve been picking up trojans from API and so far one has been found

  280. rovingpatrol Says:

    It took me awhile but I finally got into Lan’s site

  281. j.b. Says:

    Lans sites are being blocked
    *********************

    Hmmmmm, I am there, getting music, but it says it is in “rebroadcast mode”.

  282. j.b. Says:

    Okay, he’s there now. Leo is on phone.

  283. ldog70 Says:

    Well j.b.,

    I know it has been a long ride for us. However, the fact that Berg has CONFIRMED in his own words that he has heard excerpts from the tape, and the fact that Chief Korir has KEPT COMING BACK!!!!!!!

    I truly feel that if he was a fraud he would have went quietly into the good night during all the times they tried to shut him down.

    Now API has put SOME MONEY OF THEIR OWN up to built the site we told them to build so they don’t ANSWER TO NOBODY!!!!!!!!!

    I guess we will just see what we see.

  284. rovingpatrol Says:

    I couldnt get in from my book mark. I dont know if it made a difference but I googled him and got in that way. May have just been a coincidence.

  285. sliderblaze Says:

    wnd has a new article up on the bc issue(s)

  286. j.b. Says:

    good it’s not just me but I am running a scan because I’ve been picking up trojans from API and so far one has been found
    ****************************************
    I won’t go there any more, that site crashed my ‘puter-twice.
    Worst time ever getting it running again and it cost me $70.00 dollars, to boot!

  287. ldog70 Says:

    j.b. Says:

    November 25, 2008 at 3:26 am
    Anyone watching Greta? Totally off topic…………but, STILL, that awful Joran Vandrslut said he SOLD Natalie Hollowway!
    For 10 thousand dollars.
    ___________________________________________

    Yeah!!!!!!!!! I KNEW that was what he was going to say. I had to turn it off during the break. I just couldn’t hear him say it. I knew that was what he was building up to with Greta.

    THIS GUY IS SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  288. sliderblaze Says:

    i told my mom long ago she was somewhere doing the donkey show

  289. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I clicked on a link to lan and got some wild virus warning so I had to shut down – seems like everything is OK but then I got right on to Lan’s show…

  290. Troy Says:

    I finally got thru to the show

  291. j.b. Says:

    donkey show? No. Not funny, either. She is d e a d.

  292. j.b. Says:

    I’m moving on to Leo now…………glad you got in Troy.
    I ought notta brought up Natalie in the first place.

  293. thinkingmom11 Says:

    JB I thought that a couple of years ago a guy got close to that punk and he finally admitted to him that he dumped her in the ocean – watched her sink…

  294. sliderblaze Says:

    j.b. that wasnt a joke. Someone tried to steal my sister when she was 4 years old, my mom damn near killed that girl. Some Indian girl, they love blonde girls.

  295. thinkingmom11 Says:

    ooohhh Lan and Leo SMACKDOWN!!

  296. thinkingmom11 Says:

    WOOOOOOAAAAAHHHHH!!!! I think it is all over for Lan and Leo

  297. Troy Says:

    Lan and Leo had a spat…Grrrrrrrrrrr

  298. dixieinflorida Says:

    What did I just miss on Lan?

  299. sliderblaze Says:

    lol……….now children

  300. Troy Says:

    Damn!!!….Lan blew a gasket!!!

  301. rovingpatrol Says:

    well isnt that just great. Lan just had to act like a baby again and lost Leo. Hey Lan, freedom of speech goes both ways.

  302. ddlew Says:

    Lan Lamphere is a freak! What a dork!

    Doesn’t he understand that Leo is trying to remain neutral from a political stand point? He wants the case judged on it’s merits and not from an ideological position.

    What a dork! (Lan)

  303. amy Says:

    Oh My!!!. I dont think you will ever hear Leo on Lans show anymore. Leo accused Lan of talking down to him..

  304. thinkingmom11 Says:

    well, that was ugly…If Lan is going to argue freedom of speech though, doesn’t Leo have a right to freely speak his objection to the picture on Lan’s website?

  305. dixieinflorida Says:

    Troy Says:
    November 25, 2008 at 3:48 am

    Damn!!!….Lan blew a gasket!!!
    ******************
    I heard the gasket but missed why

  306. ddlew Says:

    Lamphere is a hot headed dork and I think he was probably booted from terrestrial radio.

  307. amy Says:

    Gosh! Both Ed Hale and Lan are both jerks.. Who is left for Leo now?

  308. sliderblaze Says:

    i think i posted friday that lan seems like a dick head

  309. Troy Says:

    Someone pissed in Lan’s cornflakes this morning

  310. Ksinde. Says:

    Hi all… Wow Lan lost it. What a spaz. Leo was upset with the pick of BO on Lan’s homepage. A pic of BO with Nazi background.

  311. ddlew Says:

    I guarantee you that Lan is on the phone trying to smooth that deal out during the break.

    He needs Leo more than Leo needs him.

  312. sliderblaze Says:

    so i’m taking it that, we are all suppose to agree with lan now, i think dude owes leo an apology, the people are listening to his show right now cus of leo

  313. Ksinde. Says:

    I missed Ed’s show…What happened there?

  314. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Man, Lan has a pretty low boiling point.

    Dixie, I guess Leo did not like the picture of Obama in front of a Nazi flag or Lan accusing Obama a fascist. Leo accused Lan of talking down to him. Leo asked Lan to take the picture down. Lan exploded and that was the end of that. Leo had to go. So he did. The End. Did I miss anything?

  315. j.b. Says:

    Gosh! Both Ed Hale and Lan are both jerks.. Who is left for Leo now?

    Ahem……..The Chief Editor? ]

  316. amy Says:

    I believe Lan owes Leo an apology for bringing Obama into it when he knew from the start, its NOT just about Obama.. Its about THE CONSTITUTION He knew that Leo was neutral. Why couldnt he just let it go?

  317. amy Says:

    LOL J.B.

  318. Ksinde. Says:

    Well…Did Leo give any new info?

  319. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Exactly Slider – I had never heard of that guy before I started wanting to hear what Leo had to say…

  320. dixieinflorida Says:

    thinkingmom11 Says:
    November 25, 2008 at 3:55 am

    Man, Lan has a pretty low boiling point.

    Dixie, I guess Leo did not like the picture of Obama in front of a Nazi flag or Lan accusing Obama a fascist. Leo accused Lan of talking down to him. Leo asked Lan to take the picture down. Lan exploded and that was the end of that. Leo had to go. So he did. The End. Did I miss anything?
    ************************
    Ok I’m listening to the jerk now and boy he is a jerk

  321. thinkingmom11 Says:

    OK – I am done with Lan…he can keep his big dogs and his cajones…where’s that red X….ahhhh there it is – done.

  322. rovingpatrol Says:

    I haven’t listen to Lan all that long but the first thing that jumped out at me is Lan has a short temper.

    I saw where it was headed and knew what was going to happen. if I were Leo I would of hung up to.

    Geesh. Why did Lan have to keep harping on the fascist stuff. We know what he is. That isn’t the reason Leo was on the show anyway.

  323. Ksinde. Says:

    What….. Leo has kahones!!!! He could be killed for doing what he is doing!!! How DARE LAn compare his kahunes with leo’s kahunes!!!!

  324. amy Says:

    Ksinde, no, not realy.. Leo spent all day in the law library.. He was comparing past cases.. One was where a Supreme Court intervened placing a plaintiffs name on the ballot.. Leo said if they could do that, then they could REMOVE a person too

  325. Ksinde. Says:

    Ohhh Lan is a jerk, now he is putting Leo down

  326. sliderblaze Says:

    uh, this guy dont get it, Leo remaining neutral, is the best way to go about it

  327. rovingpatrol Says:

    Ksinde. Says:
    November 25, 2008 at 4:00 am

    What….. Leo has kahones!!!! He could be killed for doing what he is doing!!! How DARE LAn compare his kahunes with leo’s kahunes!!!!
    —————————————-

    I agree. Leo is the one who can bring Obama down. Not Lan. Leo is the who has put himself out there.

    Thanks a lot Lan. IDIOT

  328. amy Says:

    I think Lan has an ego problem.

  329. gatorsmom Says:

    OK Lan is a freakin lunatic

  330. thinkingmom11 Says:

    amy – methinks that that is an understatement…

  331. Ksinde. Says:

    ty amy for the update

  332. amy Says:

    He just doesnt get it. People want to hear Leo discuss the case, NOT Lan..

  333. Troy Says:

    Dang, all that fighting to finally get thru to the show just to hear Lan screw the pooch….Grrrrrrr

  334. gatorsmom Says:

    OK, so it’s Lan’s show, but he has got a serious ego problem.

  335. amy Says:

    Ksinde, YW.

  336. Ksinde. Says:

    Gator, what were the people in patriot chat saying about Lan going off

  337. gatorsmom Says:

    Some were defending Lan and some were pleading for common sense. I think Lan supporters outnumbered the others though.

  338. Ksinde. Says:

    IMO, Lan is jealous that we want to listen to leo and not him

  339. gatorsmom Says:

    Now Lan is saying that Leo has been “indoctrinated”

  340. Ksinde. Says:

    Well Lan will see his numbers go down if Leo doesn’t come back on. Now he is comparing himself to Rush and Glen

  341. gatorsmom Says:

    all because Leo said he disagreed with the picture Lan had up. He didn’t tell Lan he couldn’t put it up, Leo just didn’t want to be associated with it…

  342. thinkingmom11 Says:

    here is one possible definition of “Fascist” from Wiki:

    A form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion. – Robert O. Paxton, The Anatomy of Fascism .[6]

  343. j.b. Says:

    Can we make comments at Leo’s site? I have been there only a couple times-gives me a headache. But I think we might could show a big round of support and tell him we were listening and we woulda hung up too!
    I just saw the pic they were talkng about-I get annoyed anytime ANYONE is compared to Hitler. There is and always will be ONE Hitler. Thank God.

  344. Tenacity Says:

    Its sad, but frankly the interviews were getting redundant. I believe we’ve heard most of what Leo has to say for the moment. The funny part is that now we will just have to listen to Leo on Ed Hale’s show. Hale almost lost Leo earlier when he brought up arming ourselves. Funny, Lamphere down…Hale up. What class acts.

  345. gatorsmom Says:

    I think Leo was smart to just get off the phone at the point he did.

  346. dixieinflorida Says:

    thinkingmom11 Says:
    November 25, 2008 at 3:59 am

    OK – I am done with Lan…he can keep his big dogs and his cajones…where’s that red X….ahhhh there it is – done.
    ********************
    I was only listening because of Leo and had never heard of Lan before that…..screw him……….doesn’t sound like a good outlet for Leo to be presenting his case

  347. Ksinde. Says:

    I agree Gator

  348. j.b. Says:

    True dat, Dixie.

  349. Ksinde. Says:

    Dixie, I only know about Lan too because of Leo.

    Whatever happened about Lan getting a constitutional lawyer and filing suit himself.

  350. gatorsmom Says:

    Looks like Leo’s blogtext site is still up and there is a contact me tab:

    http://www.blogtext.org/naturalborncitizen/contactme.html

    add http://

  351. Ksinde. Says:

    what show is this song from

  352. gatorsmom Says:

    Looks like Leo’s blogtext site is still up and there is a contact me tab:

    blogtext.org/naturalborncitizen/contactme.html

    add the ww…

  353. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I think Sean Hannity should get him on. I don’t know if Rush would do it. Hannity might. Laura Ingram would. Levine would probably do it.

  354. rovingpatrol Says:

    Lan cited a story about a court in VA that was actually bogus is I remember as the reason he backed out. I think he chickened out myself.

  355. rovingpatrol Says:

    Lan cited a story about a court in VA that was actually bogus if I remember as the reason he backed out. I think he chickened out myself.

  356. Ksinde. Says:

    Dixie, with firefox, can you do the multiple tabs like you can with internet explorer

  357. dixieinflorida Says:

    Ksinde. Says:
    November 25, 2008 at 4:15 am

    Dixie, I only know about Lan too because of Leo.

    Whatever happened about Lan getting a constitutional lawyer and filing suit himself.
    *****************
    I certainly agree that he needs to find a better show to get on than that one. You sure don’t want to be associated with a raving lunitic

  358. Ksinde. Says:

    I haven’t been able to wrap my head around why Rush, Hannity and Drudge ect.. haven’t been covering this. I guess i can understand about hannity since he has a “boss” to report to. But Rush is balls to the walls and Drudge always reports whatever he feels.

    So why are they not covering Leo? is it because Berg ruined it?

  359. sdee Says:

    What this case may be only real hope of is saving the country from Soros – not Obama per se

  360. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Well, for all the good it will do, i emailed Hannity. left the link to Leo’s site…He probably won’t do anything but it makes me feel better anyway.

  361. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I say that tonight we all bombard Drudge, Hannity and Rush with requests to cover this! ALL OF US need to get after these guys. I am emailing them right now————->brb

  362. sdee Says:

    Ksinde – they all can be bought. What made Lan independent enuf to bring Leo on seems to be the same thing that drove him off

  363. rovingpatrol Says:

    Rush has mentioned it in a passing sorta way. Levin and the others wont touch it.

  364. Ksinde. Says:

    I have emailed Drudge about 20 times. I just don’t get it. It is like someone is blackmailing them or threatening them with something.

  365. sdee Says:

    what we really should be worried about

    spiegel.de/international/business/0,1518,592268,00.html

    buying an election was an investment

  366. sdee Says:

    MSM will not cover it – what we really should be worried about

    spiegel.de/international/business/0,1518,592268,00.html

    buying an election was an investment

  367. Ksinde. Says:

    With Fox, I sorta understand. If they would have kept calling Bo out, they would not get any scoops or interviews ect… however I still feel betrayed by Fox, they let me down. It was the only news channel i watched on tv.

  368. gatorsmom Says:

    OK, getting late for me… Good night all.

  369. j.b. Says:

    I don’t get it either. The last time I heard Hannity (sort of) talk about it was when he had Corsi on the radio on a Friday and they made plans to read e-mails together (or whatever) on the t.v show the next week and never heard another word about it. Notta. Something not quite right-indeed. It is beginning to
    s e e p, though. I truly believe that after the WND reporter thing today. The tide is turning. *sigh*
    Oh, I did write Leo and gave him props. I told him about “us” over here and gave him a group hug from all of us……….j/k! I did tell him that he had many supporters here and out there in the -sphere. 🙂

  370. dixieinflorida Says:

    thinkingmom11 Says:
    November 25, 2008 at 4:26 am

    Well, for all the good it will do, i emailed Hannity. left the link to Leo’s site…He probably won’t do anything but it makes me feel better anyway
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I have also and Drudge… I just don’t understand any of this. All it could be is money in somebody’s pocket……..or that’s what it looks like to me………it’s a nightmare but if Leo wins in court I just don’t see how they can continue to ignore it, then again Judges can be bought also

  371. thinkingmom11 Says:

    OK – it just hit me when I was going to email Rush that maybe some of these guys don’t want to touch it is because Donofrio is not just challenging Obama’s eligibility, but McCain’s as well. Maybe they just don’t want to be part of bringing them both down.

    My thinking is though, that McCain would be considered a Natural Born citizen based on the allegiance part of that 1861 case and based on what the common understanding was of NBC at the time of the writing of the USConst. His father’s allegiance was clear – he was protecting and defending the Constitution in a foreign country.

  372. sdee Says:

    forget Fox – I saw it in Laura Ingraham’s face on Nov3 – something happened.

    One point Lan made is right – there really are not 2 parties any longer.

    Palin may be the overlooked factor here. Obama Camp and MSM pulled out all the stops to attack her. Then the RNC and McCain camp turned against her. She scared them all – not sure why ….yet

  373. Ksinde. Says:

    Night Gator

  374. dixieinflorida Says:

    thinkingmom11 Says:
    November 25, 2008 at 4:39 am

    OK – it just hit me when I was going to email Rush that maybe some of these guys don’t want to touch it is because Donofrio is not just challenging Obama’s eligibility, but McCain’s as well. Maybe they just don’t want to be part of bringing them both down.

    My thinking is though, that McCain would be considered a Natural Born citizen based on the allegiance part of that 1861 case and based on what the common understanding was of NBC at the time of the writing of the USConst. His father’s allegiance was clear – he was protecting and defending the Constitution in a foreign country.
    *********************
    It was a good move on Leo’s part because it isn’t bias that way and we all know JM is legal and didn’t have a problem presenting his BC

  375. rovingpatrol Says:

    This person has her opinion on why the media refuses to cover this story

    gunnyg.wordpress.com/2008/11/24/

  376. Ksinde. Says:

    IMO palin scared everyone because she is so against the “good ol boys” club. That is on both sides. She has proven that that she has zero tolerance for that.

  377. dixieinflorida Says:

    sdee Says:
    November 25, 2008 at 4:39 am

    forget Fox – I saw it in Laura Ingraham’s face on Nov3 – something happened.

    One point Lan made is right – there really are not 2 parties any longer.

    Palin may be the overlooked factor here. Obama Camp and MSM pulled out all the stops to attack her. Then the RNC and McCain camp turned against her. She scared them all – not sure why ….yet
    ******************
    They are certainly scared of her because everything was and still is being talked about what she does and still smearing her

  378. sdee Says:

    don’t give MSM too much credit – they cannot tell Berg form Donofrio and they all remember the infamous Dan Rather – Bush memo. They’ve no clue about Leo – they guy is a real life Grisham novel. Without these radio shows we’d not know either.

  379. Ksinde. Says:

    dixieinflorida Says:
    November 25, 2008 at 4:37 am

    I have also and Drudge… I just don’t understand any of this. All it could be is money in somebody’s pocket……..or that’s what it looks like to me………it’s a nightmare but if Leo wins in court I just don’t see how they can continue to ignore it, then again Judges can be bought also
    ******
    Dixie, Leo has already IMo proved that his case has teeth because he has made it further then anyone. He got it to a conference. That in itself is a big deal. That alone should have made a headline! Just angers me.

  380. dixieinflorida Says:

    Agree Ksinde

    Go to chat

  381. sdee Says:

    from the Spiegel article:
    “Soros: Definitely. I think this is a great opportunity to finally deal with global warming and energy dependence. ”

    Note he said “dependence”. Obama’s energy policy IS Soros’ policy – Soros wrote it for him.

    We piss our precious investment money away on global warming hype, carbon credits and premature alternate technology while our “dependence” on Middle East east grows. Just how Soros wants it.

  382. Troy Says:

    HA!!!…..Lan Lamphere’s link has been removed from Leo’s website

  383. Ksinde. Says:

    Dixie…What chat, API?

  384. dixieinflorida Says:

    Troy Says:
    November 25, 2008 at 5:07 am

    HA!!!…..Lan Lamphere’s link has been removed from Leo’s website
    *******************
    good for him

  385. j.b. Says:

    gunnyg.wordpress.com/2008/11/24/

    I read the whole thing. Thanks for posting the link. It is/was overwhelming to see ALL of it right there on a page-as opposed to reading on different sites, different days. My gosh! A true phenomenon? (gotta look it up, but not now)
    I do not believe the bit of Bush colusion, however. He loves this Country too much, imo. Anyhoo, that was overwhelming and just proves there’s a case and we have all said it, “Why”?
    I honestly do. not. get. it. I do feel (for whatever reason and the little morsel from the WND reporter today) that things are beginning to crack………….Oh yeah.
    g’night, y’all.

  386. thinkingmom11 Says:

    gotta run – ‘nite all

  387. Ksinde. Says:

    Ok, going to watch boston legal, then off to bed…. ttyl

  388. Cyndi Says:

    Roving Patrol-
    This person has her opinion on why the media refuses to cover this story

    gunnyg.wordpress.com/2008/11/24/
    ******************************
    OMG, that opinion scares me to death!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  389. dixieinflorida Says:

    Cyndi go here

    blogtalkradio.com/UserChat.aspx?HostUserURL=AfricanPressAPI

  390. Cyndi Says:

    We have all asked ourselves why this is happening, who is it that has this much power? All this evidence laying right before the world’s eyes to see and no one wants to touch it. And the media definately is avoiding it. I had read somewhere that Bush was depressed, and started drinking or course I blew it off. Does he think that he let us down. At his recent summit no one shook his hand but everyone else was shaking each others hands. I have read about the possibility of enacting martial law. And I had read somewhere else that we were going to get hit in a major city by a nuclear bomb in 2009. People keep saying something big is gonna happen. I remembered the video of the French guy meeting with Obama and his total demeanor towards him, like he was dealing with satan himself. Obama hasn’t been to church since the election, was working out in the gym. The list is way to enormous to type. One thing the media has not ignored is the fact that the future is looking kinda grim.
    I have always been a Bush supporter because he is our Prez but I did not agree with some of his policies.
    Just another opinion that I can put away with the rest. This stuff is still geting crazier. I think I need counseling.

    gunnyg.wordpress.com/2008/11/24/

  391. Tenacity Says:

    The gunny theory would explain why Tony Blair backed off when he did and why Sharia law and finance has been creeping into England.

    All of a sudden I would be relieved to know that everyone had just been bought off. The question suddenly arises; how many must die in the name of freedom? I know where I’m going…do you?

  392. Cyndi Says:

    But IF this is all true how would they stop it? Or could they?

  393. Tenacity Says:

    Cyndi,
    It is one thing to put your own life on the line…it is another to make a decision for a large number of others. Given the choice, I say it is a good day to die. I will not live in fear and we cannot aford to cower to terrorists. It seems trivial to say if you give them an inch they will take a mile, but that may be where we are. We cannot allow them to take our guns. I just believe there are a lot of people with my attitude. The tough part, if this has any bearing in reality, we are not talking about trained soldiers being on the front line. We are not talking about fighting on foreign soil. We are not even talking about being able to face the enemy. It would start out as a game of poker and possibly end up digging our way out of the desolation. It is truely a bazaar theory. We need some answers and we need the truth so that everyone can make up their minds or prepare for what is to come. It would give a whole new meaning to country first.

  394. How Will This End??? Says:

    Now that Dec 15th is getting closer, do you really think 300+ electorates will change their minds and not vote for Obama when they are party loyalists?

    Do you think that the definition of natural born citizen will be clarified in two weeks when it is not defined clearly in the Constitution?

    Does it matter anymore that Obama was born in Africa to an American when current rules eliminates the original 5 years after age 14 and now would give him citizenship retroactively?

    There is a lot of faith being put out there that API or Polarik will surface in the media in two weeks. Even if it does, I don’t think it will have enough momentum to topple the electorate and swearing in process.

    I doubt the Supreme Court even with Roberts will weigh in on the cases in front of them when we have an economic crisis. Just what the stock market needs — 2 -4 months of turmoil.

    We think that the Dec 5th conference will decide everything. Even if accepted, it is usually months before full hearings and rulings are issued without even factoring in the holidays. And, the person with standing, Keyes, is not even at the Supreme Court yet.

    I am just wondering if the final nail if there is one will be something small. The Feds tried to get Capone for years, yet only got him for a small issue of tax evasion at the end. Thus, could the real downfall not be the issue of natural born citizen as it would drag out for years and possible not change anything.

    Or, could the issue be knowingly using a falsified federal document? What are the penalities there? It is up on his website … not just the factcheck website. And, didn’t he have an obligation to investigate the issue of his birthplace which shows up on that federal document when he traveled to Africa and for sure heard the rumors that he was born there and not Hawaii?

    As for those who hope that the API and document of his African birth will surface, do you really think the courts will rule on a 40 year old ledger that could have been just his grandmother asking a favor of a blessing of her grandchild born in the states?

    There is a lot of evidence, yet no smoking gun (a witness/doctor willing to come forward to say he gave birth to Obama in Africa … not some grandson of someone who supposedly gave the blessing).

  395. Stacy Says:

    What do you all think of API’s latest claim today to air the tape thru two MBO’s and to “loyal” supporters a few hours befohand? I am not at all getting my hopes up yet.

    Primarily, because they say they don’t have a website to air the tape from(baloney – many sites would have been happy to step up to THAT plate) so they had to make a site first.

    Anyway, I’m not holding my breath here.

    New site:

    http://www.africanpress.in/

    ———————————————————————————

    The tape release by the MBOs – the two Media Broadcasting Outlets, one in the US and the other to focus on the Canadians, chosen will do the airing simultaneously. API will arrange a link in the new website http://www.africanpress.in so that all registered readers may link in and listen to the tape a few hours before the public airing by the MBOs.

    The Link in our website will be coded in such a manner that it will not be possible to download without a special code. This is done in order to avoid people downloading and sending it around before the MBOs have aired the tape. The coding system is also meant to keep away the detractors who would like to get the information and distort it before it is aired in full.

    After the airing of the tape, the coding will be removed so that all the readers will get the opportunity to download it.

    The release depends on the completion of our new website and we think we are able to complete and have it ready any time from now. Our detractors will not be able to stop us this time, because we have done our homework well.

    ———————————————————————————–

  396. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Good morning to anyone who may be here…I was perusing my normal news & information site and ran across this little tidbit:

    nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/technology/5169248/us-taps-online-youth-groups-to-fight-crime-terrorism/

    no www needed…Personally I get VERY wary when governments target youth. They know the youth are easily persuaded, controled and manipulated. We were all kids once – it is a powerful tool if someone can ask you to do something that makes you important or makes you feel like what you are doing could ‘CHANGE’ the world. I mean if you really wanted to make a difference you would ask ADULTS with experience and connections – not a bunch of kids! I tell my kids when they are at the park without me that if an ADULT stops and wants some KIDS to give them directions somewhere to NOT TRUST THEM – if an adult stranger needs help with something they are most likely going to find another ADULT to help them not some kid. This taken with the Civilian Security Force is just all too reminiscent of far tooo many totalitarian regimes. It truely is frightening…

  397. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Hi Stacy and How? It is probably a good idea NOT to hold your breath Stacy. I am kinda just wait and see at this point – very little hope that anything will come of it…I guess it just depends on what is on that “tape” if such tape indeed exists.

    How? I am of the opinion that while each single piece of the puzzle taken by itself doesn’t get us very far in our objective (can I say that?? it makes it sound SOOOO much more conspiratorial than it is!)LOL

    BUT if it gets out that he may have forged birth documents, may have forged SSS documents, lied on his bar application that he had no former names, may have been born in Kenya, even if he was born in HI he may still not be considered NBC because of his dual citizenship with Britian. ALL of this together should be enough to get most peoples’ attention (except for the most adoring sycophants – those are hopeless).

    What seems to be the biggest obstacle is the MSM. They won’t touch it with a 10′ pole! I mean, even the not-so MSM will cover it! Seriously, any ONE of these allegations would be enough to take down ANY other candidate that wasn’t the Media’s Darling. So until the media begins to cover this, we are going to have to sit around our computers – writing letters, sending emails, crying in our coffee and talking amongst ourselves because until the MSM gets ahold of this we are nothing but a bunch of tin-foil-hat-wearing nuts out to get our esteemed President-Elect to the people out there who aren’t paying attention.

  398. thinkingmom11 Says:

    HOW – How would Obama’s grandmother have know she had a grandson born in HI?? She just recently got a television so I kinda doubt she had a telephone back in 1961. If the blessing document is dated Aug 4 I am pretty sure that he was born in Kenya.

  399. rosettasister Says:

    Good morning, America! How are You?!

    Total Views 11/24

    4111

    Need to catch up.

    Will put up new post ASAP.

    Have a wonderful day!

    Rose

  400. Goferit Says:

    Chief is live in his Blogtalk

  401. rosettasister Says:

    BTW, I saw MommaE commented at

    africanpress.wordpress.com

    seems MommaE still a believer

    Interesting.

    bbl

  402. rosettasister Says:

    Goferit Says:
    November 25, 2008 at 3:17 pm

    Chief is live in his Blogtalk

    ———————-

    Thanks goferit!

  403. rosettasister Says:

    Link for above

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/AfricanPressAPI

  404. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Rosetta did you see that Pam from Atlas Shrugs appears to have posted there too? Interesting…

  405. thinkingmom11 Says:

    lots of anonymous lurkers in the chat this morning…

  406. jjones35811 Says:

    Mom,
    *************************************
    So until the media begins to cover this, we are going to have to sit around our computers – writing letters, sending emails, crying in our coffee and talking amongst ourselves because until the MSM gets ahold of this we are nothing but a bunch of tin-foil-hat-wearing nuts out to get our esteemed President-Elect to the people out there who aren’t paying attention.
    *************************************

    Very well said…
    I hate being considered a wingnut. I just hope something come out SOON

  407. thinkingmom11 Says:

    JJ – did you happen to read Rovingpatrol’s link?

    gunnyg.wordpress.com/2008/11/24/

  408. thinkingmom11 Says:

    and JJ, by soon, I am assuming that you are refering to the commonly accepted meaning of “soon” and not the API translation – right??

    (JK Rose – don’t get too upset with me 😉 )

  409. hockeyfan530 Says:

    did any of you send API your info for release of the tape?

  410. jjones35811 Says:

    Mom,
    Yes. I read it… a bit tinfoily hat for me. Lots of conjecture and supposition
    Yes, by “soon” I mean the standard version. 🙂

  411. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I didn’t. Did you? I was kinda torn but decided not to…

  412. jjones35811 Says:

    HF,
    I am a bit aprehensive about sending them the personal info they requested.

  413. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Yeah JJ – I thought so too, but not too much more than other theories out there unfortunately! I did notice a change in Bush in 05 – thought that was wierd and he hasn’t been the same since. I think anyone who thinks that this whole situation is set up because Bush wants to stay in office is nuts!! I get the feeling he can’t wait to get out…

  414. hockeyfan530 Says:

    yeah, i did. I was worried at first but so far no problems. IF it ever comes out i didn’t want to be searching all over the place for it. Then i found this site and i now know i would have heard about it here…so probably unnecessary.

    You know. If Clinton is found to ineligible i think Obama knew she would be and that’s why he offered it to her. But if that’s the case…what an arrogant ass to know someone else is ineligible while he himself is under suspicion.

  415. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    mom
    agreed,…. I think Bush is tired….. just wants out now

  416. jjones35811 Says:

    Yeah, he’s been ready to go for 2 years now I think. Can’t say I blame him much.
    OK, back to work for me.

  417. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Are the still asking for phone numbers? That was the part that made me wary.

  418. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Everyone did hear that HRC might night get to be Sec of State right?

  419. thinkingmom11 Says:

    cul8r JJ- now I am hip and cool – learning the textlingo…

  420. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    mom

    I also have a magic jack phone number so I didn’t worry about…. not traceable

  421. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Cindy – I have heard that. The Constitution is pretty clear that Members of congress must finish the terms they are elected for and MAY NOT be appointed to other government positions until that term is over. I think Obama is either a TERRIBLE Constitutional scholar or he is yanking her chain…either is pathetic.

  422. hockeyfan530 Says:

    yeah, I heard about the HRC and i believe Obama knew that. Just trying to get more people by appearing to pick her

  423. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    hockeyfan
    That was my first thoughts,…… he didn’t want her, but knew about that clause…..all tactics……

  424. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Cindy – that is very cool! I am quite low tech and only have my regular home phone and a company cell phone that I didn’t want to jeopardize so I didn’t sign up. SO I am counting on you all who will be “in the know” to keep me updated!

  425. hockeyfan530 Says:

    it shouldn’t be hard keeping you updated as nothing happens at API

  426. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    what is really cool about my Magic jack….. is that they didn’t have a local area code…….. so it looks like I live in a city 80 miles away

  427. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Yep – he is either a TERRIBLE Constitutional scholar or he is yanking her chain BIG TIME. Now, this may work to an advantage – if he insists on following the Constitution to the letter of the law and withdraws her nomination that puts him into a weak position if the SCOTUS were to rule that he is not a NBC…

  428. rosettasister Says:

    New Thread:

    https://rosettasister.wordpress.com/2008/11/25/%e2%80%9cobamas-pro-growth-economic-team%e2%80%9d-by-lawrence-kudlow/

  429. thinkingmom11 Says:

    No kidding JJ!

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