“Letting the sabre-tooth tiger out of the bag” By Polarik

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tiger1

“Letting the sabre-tooth tiger out of the bag”

“Polarik’s final report: Obama’s ‘Born’ Conspiracy”

“Forged images, phony photos, and felony fraud”

By Ron Polarik, PhD

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2136816/posts

EXCERPTS

The Seal is actually a 2008 Seal! And the Registrar’s stamp is actually a 2008 Registrar stamp!

We saw the effects of this cobbling together of COLB features on the Seals. The front view of the Seal should look vastly different from the reverse, given the change in angles and in the Seal itself, yet the reverse side Seal image perfectly overlays the front side Seal image — except for the 25% cropped of the top of the Seal as shown on the reverse side COLB photo. There is no logical or acceptable reason for not including the entire Seal in at least two photos made of the back side. Likewise, there is no logical or defensible reason for doing any cutting on the Seal, let alone the 20-30% sliced off the top of the Seal. The front view has the fold bisecting the top part of the Seal and is at a 30 degree angle from the bottom part.

.Basically, when you are mindful of the perspective at which the document was allegedly photographed, you begin to see the unreality of the elements depicted in those photos. Round Seals that should be elliptical. Flat Seals that should be bent at an angle. Seals illuminated in ways that are technically impossible. Seal sides that should be different, but are the same. Parts of Seals intentionally cropped out of photos. Seals that appear on different types of paper never used for COLBs. Taken together, all of the attempts at creating a convincing illusion of a real Seal on a real COLB actually failed to do so. Instead, these bogus Seals represent an intentional ruse used to fool the public.

As noted above, one of the photos (birth_certificate_1.jpg) was made from a real Seal on a real COLB, that was subsequently Photoshopped to eradicate features that are not present on the bogus Seals.

The macro shot of the Seal from almost the height of the paper, shows two major anomalies: the text fields off in the distance are either out-of-focus or not in the photo at all. Test shots of a real Seal confirm that all of the fields should be visible, albeit, as dark blurry lines. There are two lines of text missing, and there are no natural reasons that explain their absence, such as overexposure from a light source.

The center of the Seal and paper also appears to have been compromised by tool work (Photoshop image too), and not by any beam of light.

The texture of the Seal in all shots is also unrealistic, especially in the close-up of #1. The texture is suggestive of hand-engraving a photo of a Seal to make it look raised or embossed. The fact that the word, “of,” and interior sections of the letters, such as the slanted lines that connect the two parallel lines of an “M”, or an”N”, are absent, confirms that this Seal is not real.

To put it bluntly, the Factcheck photos have been “Frankensteined,” just as the Factcheck scan image was cobbled together with the parts of different COLBs. The use of the term, “document” is simply for expediency sake, as no, single “real” document was used for these photos or for the scan image.

To: Kevmo; pissant; LucyT

Excellent, Polarik. Now you can start on that book and make money from this debacle.

Thank you, Kevmo. Believe me, I will do that book when all the dust settles.

I’m well on my way. This report came out to 100 printed pages, and it is being sent as evidence to a number of lawyers.

Tomorrow, Janet Porter and a TV crew from Illuminati TV are going to videotape me as I present my report results.

BTW, were you able to listen to the radio show?

21 posted on Saturday, November 22, 2008 11:09:50 PM by Polarik

Comment found at Free Republic:

To: Polarik
The version posted on 0bama’s website has OHBM in the lower left corner. The folded copy with serial number which has appeared in photographs has OHSM in the lower left corner.
A case of too many forgers spoiling the broth ?

69 posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 6:48:17 AM by ComputerGuy

Thanks to thinkingmom11 for helping me to find what I was looking for.

bo_o_birthcert-ohbm-3

bo_o_birthcert (ohbm)

file0015-cropped-ohsm-3

File0015-cropped (OHSM)

One reply to FR Comment Above:

To: ComputerGuy; Polarik

If you look, all versions but the one posted on FTS has OHSM in the lower left corner, not just the photographed one. I’m curious as to why Polarik didn’t mention this and explain why there appears to be two versions. Perhaps it was a typo that was fixed but they forgot to send the corrected version to FTS?


90 posted on 11/23/2008 8:28:02 AM PST by christie

Phil Berg Barack Obama Ron Polarik Jeff Schreiber Michelle Obama Chief Editor Korir African Press International API

272 Responses to ““Letting the sabre-tooth tiger out of the bag” By Polarik”

  1. jjones35811 Says:

    FIRST !

  2. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    lol

  3. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Ok everyone, I created a blog today over at a wordpress site based in Ireland.
    I have no intentions of “stealing” Roses bloggers ….. I have even linked her blog from mine.

    My hope is for it to be used as a reference site… a place you can submit articals, youtube video links, anything you think is of importance.
    Heck you may even submit a funny jokes as long as they are in good taste.

    Very much just getting started, so any help is welcome… lol….plus I am feeling lonely there.

    It will evolve as we do..
    justwhispers.blogsome.com/

    just http: in front

  4. ddlew Says:

    4th!

  5. jjones35811 Says:

    Cindy, just posted … I was the first there too !!! w00h00 !

  6. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    thanks jj

  7. jjones35811 Says:

    Are we here now?

  8. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I still am

  9. Troy Says:

    REPOST FROM PREVIOUS THREAD

    Troy Says:

    November 23, 2008 at 2:19 am
    thinkingmom11 Says:

    November 23, 2008 at 2:00 am
    JJ – I am going to have to disagree with you. I hold my leaders up to a higher standard. The Founding Fathers would roll in their graves if they heard you say that. They believed that the leaders of this country should be the best and brightest, moral and humble leaders with public virtue (sacrificing personal needs and gains for the public good). A little issue here and there is one thing but a pattern of abusive behaviour (personal or otherwise), massive character flaws, and lack of clear judgement should preclude anyone from being president. I have a hard time separating the man from his actions, decisions, associations etc. I mean, seriously, we are a sum of our parts – our decisions, mistakes, successes, friends, classes, mentors etc are all part of who we are. People need to put together all the peices of the puzzle that is Obama – and see if it is a picture of a president. To me it just isn’t. Sorry.
    ————————————————————-
    AH!!!!….Thank You Mom!!!!…..I can count the times on one hand that I have been to church in my entire life, so I’m not some sort of bible thumping religeous zealot…..But our country has gone to hell in a hand basket when it comes to morals and values….These are thing that I acquired by being raised by two sound parents and God and religeon had nothing to do with it…..Our society has been eroding on a steady basis for a long time now…The family unit is all but shot….mass shootings in schools and workplaces, the definition of a virgin is now= an ugly 3rd grader….I could go on and on, but I won’t….If something doesn’t give soon we will pass the point of ever being able to recover.

  10. ILBlue Says:

    Just in case you’re interested , more on Obama’s Indonesian Passport and Citizenship ;

    redbeanforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=1556&sid=6dd570e102cafd6b5a05b8cddc335c03

    Just add the http://www.

    Hope I did this correctly this time. 🙂

  11. jjones35811 Says:

    Troy,
    I do agree with you on the direction this country has gone over the last 25+ years has been straight down. I think that it directly attributable to the deline and decay of our public education system in this country.

  12. sba1872 Says:

    Well, some of the links on Leo’s mirror site link back to the old blog so they don’t work. I wanted to see Sabatino’s opinion and Justice Long’s opinion. That’s ok. I’m sure it will be fixed. For now, I’m satisfied that it reached the Supreme Court because that’s where it belongs. Only the Supremes can interpret the US Constitution.

  13. jjones35811 Says:

    SBA,
    Lets just hope it has any traction there…. I fear it wont

  14. Troy Says:

    jjones35811 Says:

    November 23, 2008 at 2:32 am
    Troy,
    I do agree with you on the direction this country has gone over the last 25+ years has been straight down. I think that it directly attributable to the deline and decay of our public education system in this country.
    ————————————————————
    Yes JJ, that is one of many reasons….divorce rate(one parent family), television, liberalism in general is where it all stems from.

    My point was regarding who we put in as our Pres. needs to be of the highest standard….We are suppose to lead by example….we should be setting examples…the world respect for our country would return if we clean it up

  15. sba1872 Says:

    What I really don’t understand is why the MSM is ignoring it.

  16. ILBlue Says:

    Uh-oh…

    Alrighty then I guess I need to not show the http etc. at all . Soooooooo sorryyyyyyyy.

  17. Troy Says:

    sba1872 Says:

    November 23, 2008 at 2:40 am
    What I really don’t understand is why the MSM is ignoring it.
    ———————————————————–
    They don’t want to be seen as RACISTS!!!….They don’t want to have any part of being linked to taking down the first BLACK Pres.

  18. Troy Says:

    yep…http://www, goes to moderation

  19. jjones35811 Says:

    SBA,
    That is the question of the year…..Why are they ignoring it? not just the case(s) but EVERYTHING! What ever happened to just reporting the news… When did the opinion of the broadcasters ever become part of the news?

  20. sba1872 Says:

    You know, I can understand the excitement and historical nature of the first African American president. I really do. But it was up to the media to vet all the candidates. They had no trouble attacking Senator Clinton and her candidacy was just as historic as she was the first woman to win a primary. Ex-Senator Obama was not the first AA to do so.

  21. Troy Says:

    2008…The year journalism died in the US…..R.I.P. +

  22. Troy Says:

    Obama is a mega liberal and the media is owned and controled by the mega liberals…Obamaggot is their Darling

  23. jjones35811 Says:

    I think if some new outlet decided just to report the news without any bias they would become the highest rated newscast ever. I just don’t understand why they don’t get this.

  24. Troy Says:

    Well, I’ve waited all day long AGAIN for the big breaking Polarik report and pfffft!!!

  25. Troy Says:

    Even Fox News has sold us down the river

  26. jjones35811 Says:

    heh,
    yeah, whatever happened with that?

  27. sba1872 Says:

    Well, to be honest, I think it was a more gradual death. I learned a lot from firedoglake, yes, I know many here may consider that a lefty blog, but they were really great in reporting on the Libby trial. They were live blogging the testimony and it really gave me some insight into how the government USED the media to selectively leak information. The media was just as happy to get this “exclusive” information, even if not entirely accurate.

  28. Troy Says:

    According to Lanny Lamphere, Fox does want to talk to Leo though

  29. jjones35811 Says:

    Well,
    He said that….do we know that for sure?

  30. Troy Says:

    firedoglake, dailykos…now there’s a reliable unbiased pair…pffft

  31. Troy Says:

    I don’t know why he would make it up

  32. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Ok here is my train of thought, I really don’t mean to offend anybody it is just my take on things.

    America started to decline when the Dad working was not enough, when Mom’s HAD to work because thier home needed two incomes to survive.

    The children started being exposed to many influences because Babysitters/daycare became the norm, where Grandma, Aunt, etc were the babysitters, they too were now out working.

    Remember when Holidays were about families getting together, from young to old…. “it just was”….. something that could be counted on.
    Parents not being able to be at home as much as they wish they could started buying things to make their kids happy; to the point, kids became spoiled, the beginning of the me/me generation.

    Now I think Woman should have the right to a career. But most would let it be a part time situation until there children were at least in school; given a choice.

    Now I’m not picking on Women,…. but I do think kids should have one parent as much as possible during their younger years.

  33. Troy Says:

    I concur on all parts

  34. sba1872 Says:

    Troy,

    I’m not talking about opinions, though. I’m talking about the actual testimony in that trial. The media didn’t think it was newsworthy because it made them look bad, very bad. Firedoglake was one of the few sources available. I would also read justoneminute for balance. But the trial was what it was. And I, for one, am a fan of Joseph Wilson, Valerie Plame and, for that matter, Larry Johnson. Noquarter is one of my favorite sites.

  35. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    sba1872

    Sorry had to say this…. but OB is not African American.
    he is African/Arabic/White

  36. jjones35811 Says:

    Um… where does the arabic come in?

  37. Troy Says:

    There has been a culture war going on in this country for decades now….I’m personal ready to face down the enemy head on….I say, toss Obama on a technicality and let the riots begin…I’m long past fed up and will fight to the death!!!

    Lock-n-Load

  38. jjones35811 Says:

    Troy,
    I bought my shotgun today:-)

  39. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    jjones35811

    His Birth Father Obama Sr.

  40. sba1872 Says:

    Cindy4,

    Try telling that to his African American supporters. Again, I can understand it. I might feel the same if I were AA. The irony of it is that he has more of an elitist existence than most Americans, black or white.

  41. Troy Says:

    Me likes .00 Buckshot

  42. jjones35811 Says:

    His father was from Kenya….I don’t understand the arabic. did I miss something?

  43. jjones35811 Says:

    Troy,
    I bought .000 🙂

  44. sba1872 Says:

    Troy,

    I don’t have a gun. Can I just hide behind you and yell obscenities? I’m pretty loud when attacked.

  45. Troy Says:

    is someone confusing Arabic with Islamic or muslim?

  46. Troy Says:

    sba1872 Says:

    November 23, 2008 at 3:07 am
    Troy,

    I don’t have a gun. Can I just hide behind you and yell obscenities? I’m pretty loud when attacked.
    ————————————————————
    yes, but you have to be reloading one while I’m emptying the other

  47. jjones35811 Says:

    sba,
    As long as you plan on spitting while yelling obscenities, you can hide behind me 😉

  48. Troy Says:

    Alah Akbar!!!!……BOOM!!!!

  49. sba1872 Says:

    Troy says:

    “‘yes, but you have to be reloading one while I’m emptying the other”
    ————–

    Deal!

  50. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    JJ

    Tried to find the link,……without luck….

  51. jjones35811 Says:

    Cindy,
    Ok, but if you find it let me know. No matter really, being part arabic (or muslim) doesn’t disqualify him.

  52. Troy Says:

    I guess you all know that if the SCOTUS justices rule against us, we will have witnessed at coup d’tat right here in our own country….That kind of crap is usually reservered for lawless third world countries

  53. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Troy,….. I took that from info I found a few weeks ago
    They could of misworded it….
    dang I need to refind that site

  54. sba1872 Says:

    jj and Troy,

    Ok. I’d like to renegotiate. I get to hide beyond both of you, while simultaneously reloading ammo and spitting obscenities.

  55. sba1872 Says:

    Correction: Hide BEHIND, definitely not BEYOND.

  56. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    JJ

    I was only using it as reference to how AA’s think he is one of them….
    when he isn’t…. I believe his roots come from a tribe that sold their enemies to the slave traders

  57. tooncesmom Says:

    Testing. Seem to be in moderation on all blogs. Grrr.

  58. jjones35811 Says:

    SBA
    OK,
    I’ll have to go buy the AR-15 now then, you can reload that while I’m using the shotgun

  59. Troy Says:

    sba1872 Says:

    November 23, 2008 at 3:13 am
    jj and Troy,

    Ok. I’d like to renegotiate. I get to hide beyond both of you, while simultaneously reloading ammo and spitting obscenities.
    ———————————————————–
    ok, good because my body armor only covers the front….So, you got my back?

  60. tooncesmom Says:

    Well, perhaps not this one.

    Gosh, I go away for a day and have to spend half the night catching up.

  61. sba1872 Says:

    jj and Troy:

    I definitely got your backs! Lock and Load!!

  62. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    laughing

    hey guys I live in redneck county..
    There is a 45 under the matress,
    a 22 in the desk, another 45 under the seat of the truck.
    and two riffles..

    and this lady knows how to shoot 🙂

  63. jjones35811 Says:

    Cindy,
    I think more than his actual race seperates him from those that supported them. He led a very elitist life. My wife made a very good point to me once… she stated “I don’t understand why black people think he is one of them, he probably is more white than you and I put together”

  64. sba1872 Says:

    Ok, Cindy. But you’re out in front. I’m reserving my spot behind jj and Troy. Maybe you can ride shotgun!

  65. jjones35811 Says:

    SBA,
    oo-rah! Ok, my marine training is showing now…

  66. tooncesmom Says:

    Cindy:

    I agree with you. My mom and grandma stayed home; in fact, my grandma lived with us for 17 years when I was growing up. When my Dad left, my stay-at-home mom, then in her fifties, went out and got a job as a precision machinist.

    I married in the early sixties, but stayed at home when the children were small. When we moved to Northern CA I went back to work, however, my schedule worked out that I got home just as the school bus was dropping the kids off at our lane, so it became the best of both worlds. And even though I worked full time, I always made lunches, got breakfasts and cooked “from scratch” dinners. I like to think they got more than good nutrition out of it all. Both kids turned out to be good American citizens.

  67. Troy Says:

    12 Guage is wonderful thing….just point and pull

  68. Tenacity Says:

    Sportsfans,
    Obama’s grandfather Obama was from an arabic tribe known to be slave traders. Sarah Obama, the grandmother that witnessed his birth is the only black African in his bloodline. The weird part of this is that none of them may turn out to be blood relatives. But you can bet that if he was born in Kenya, BO Sr will be the father of record.

  69. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I’m good with a bow and arrow too..
    unless you give me a baseball or a bowling ball…… I usually get what I aim for 🙂

  70. Tenacity Says:

    jj,
    Did anyone mention the Donald Young connection to BO that Sinclair has testified to?

  71. sba1872 Says:

    I shot a gun once in my life. I’m embarrassed to say it was at a dude ranch in PA. I don’t even know what it was, I guess a rifle. I got a big old black-and-blue on my shoulder from the kickback. That was enough for me.

  72. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Tenacity

    Thanks,… I hate when I know something but can’t back it up with sources

  73. jjones35811 Says:

    Tenacity,
    Do you have a link for this info?

  74. Tenacity Says:

    Has anyone seen the ex-fed-undercover agent’s site that reports BO using drugs up until at least 2002?

  75. tooncesmom Says:

    Troy:

    A couple of years ago my husband went to AZ for a month. I felt I needed some protection, so he got out his 12 ga. and ran me through the routine.

    I accidently discharged the gun into the bed. Shot went through the comforter cover, the down comforter, the mattress, box spring and lodged well into the floor.

    Needless to say, I did not use a gun to defend myself against would-be attackers. In fact, he doesn’t let me live it down.

  76. jjones35811 Says:

    Ok,OK… I’m really gonna have to dig into this sinclair stuff now….*sigh* I was trying to avoid it

  77. sba1872 Says:

    No, Tenacity, I didn’t know about that. What’s the site? I’m a Larry believer. Anyone not familiar, I think, should start with the Washington Pressclub video at larrysinclair.org. Listen to what he has to say in his own words.

  78. Tenacity Says:

    Sinclair talks about the Young connection at the end of his videoed press conference at the Press Club where David Manning was present. I’ll see if I can find that link.

    The blood line info has been published in numerous places. I remember seeing one article at Americasright.com

  79. jjones35811 Says:

    Man, I’ve been popping over to the API site occasionally and following the posts… It’s like a frigging bible study group over there.

  80. sba1872 Says:

    Tenacity,

    What’s the ex-fed site?

  81. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    JJ I posted once over there at API tonight,….. just a hello…

    but yes I know exactly what you mean,..

  82. Troy Says:

    JJ,
    I could tell you anything you want to know about the Sinclair story, but I type too slowly….The Press Club video is a good start

  83. Tenacity Says:

    Sinclair press conference
    http: //larrysinclair.org/press.html

  84. jjones35811 Says:

    Not that I have anything against the bible ( or torah, or the koran)… but come on… what has that got to do with the release of the thing that we’re not supposed to mention

  85. Troy Says:

    tooncesmom Says:

    November 23, 2008 at 3:26 am
    Troy:

    A couple of years ago my husband went to AZ for a month. I felt I needed some protection, so he got out his 12 ga. and ran me through the routine.

    I accidently discharged the gun into the bed. Shot went through the comforter cover, the down comforter, the mattress, box spring and lodged well into the floor.

    Needless to say, I did not use a gun to defend myself against would-be attackers. In fact, he doesn’t let me live it down.
    ————————————————————
    Lmaooo….so you bagged your first bed huh?

  86. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    tooncesmom

    Now the first gun I ever shot was a 10g ….. everyone thought is was SOOOOO funny when I ended up on my fanny….. that thing has one heck of a kick

  87. jjones35811 Says:

    Troy,
    I just tried to load the video at larrysinclair.org… it wouldn’t play for some reason

  88. Troy Says:

    10 guage…good Lord….that’s a mule kick

  89. Troy Says:

    JJ,
    just google —> Sinclair press club video

  90. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    jj

    Korir is a strong believer,… and it is something that calms him…….. when faith is talked about……. they are just buttering their bread and seeing what it draws out

  91. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Troy,
    bruised shoulder too,….. ouched for a couple of days

  92. Troy Says:

    His new site is

    larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com/

  93. tooncesmom Says:

    Troy: cost a bundle to have the cover and comforter stitched up so hole wouldn’t show. Yup, I bag beds, lock myself in henhouses, trip over tree roots and smash the gathered eggs all over my slacks. Yup, I’m one you want covering your back.

  94. tooncesmom Says:

    I tried to post at API and can’t. Don’t know what’s up with that.

  95. sba1872 Says:

    jj,

    Still having trouble at larrysinclair.org. Still locked, can’t load? Uh-oh.

  96. Troy Says:

    Ok…I went over to API and said Hello…It posted, no problem

  97. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    tooncesmom

    I got myself locked in a outhouse once….
    and I’m someone that is a bit claustrophobic

  98. jjones35811 Says:

    SBA,
    I found it on youtube… watching it now

  99. thinkingmom11 Says:

    youtube.com/watch?v=RkgfrS9FanU

    since we are on the subject of guns with kick….

  100. Troy Says:

    justanamericancindy4 Says:

    November 23, 2008 at 3:44 am
    tooncesmom

    I got myself locked in a outhouse once….
    and I’m someone that is a bit claustrophobic
    ————————————————————-
    Lmaooo….You wanna hear a good one?…..I used a riding lawn mower to tip over an outhouse that my buddy was in….I tipped it over on it’s door….Lmaooo….I thought it was hilarious…My buddy did not….HE WAS MAD!!!!

  101. Tenacity Says:

    Here is one of the arab slave trader articles:
    http: //caosblog.com/7961

    I know Kenneth Lamb wrote about this on one of the majors news sites.

  102. sba1872 Says:

    Tenacity, you still here? What’s the ex-fed site?

    “Has anyone seen the ex-fed-undercover agent’s site that reports BO using drugs up until at least 2002?”

  103. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Troy

    I think the worst goof I ever made
    Just for kicks when I was a teenager I put in this temp dye in my hair..
    now I am talking bright red……. neon blue and purple
    Now it was SUPPOSED to wash out in 3 shampoo’s
    after about 25 washings and it keep getting brighter….. I put on a bandana and went and bought some brown hair dye

  104. Tenacity Says:

    Here’s the ex-Raegan-intelligence officers site:
    http: //www.hydeparkhustle.org/

  105. sba1872 Says:

    Tenacity,

    Thanks for the site link. Going to read.

  106. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Tenacity
    link didn’t work for some reason

  107. thinkingmom11 Says:

    not much there…

  108. sba1872 Says:

    Tenacity,

    I went over to read hydeparkhustle.org. Didn’t take long. Did I miss something or did he only post once, other than his statement of being an ex-fed? Did he scrub posts?

  109. thinkingmom11 Says:

    REALLY wanting to know what HE knows though!

  110. sba1872 Says:

    thinkingmom11 says:

    “REALLY wanting to know what HE knows though!”

    ———————————-

    Yes, most intriguing. But that’s why I believe Larry. He has his face out there, his real phone number. He’s really tenacious. His story may not mean much to many in the big picture, but it’s his true story and he’s not backing down. This ex-fed, well, who knows?

  111. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I can’t listen to Larry right now – I have little children who are still up 😉 But I am interested to hear him out…I think

  112. thinkingmom11 Says:

    So did the Hyde Park Hustle guy write a book – from what I could make out of the print across O’s chest it said “Coming soon to a bookstore near you” – I missed that the first time I looked

  113. thinkingmom11 Says:

    MAN – you guys – the more I find out about this man the sicker I feel. Is there ANYTHING good about him? Good charity work? Good ANYTHING?

  114. jjones35811 Says:

    Ok, well, I checked out Larry Sinclair site, not a whole lot of info there, just pimping his book. Also watched the video as well. Let me see if I have his story right. Please correct and enlighten me if I’m wrong.
    1999 he’s introduced to Obama. He has no idea who he is at he time. Has “relations” with him in the back of a limo while BO smokes crack. Larry move to Mexico, doesn’t say a word. Sees him at the DEM convention 5 years later and recognizes him. Doesn’t say a word. 2008 he “comes out” so to speak with his story. Ok, If I missed anything, please fill me in

  115. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Anything interesting on internet radio tonight? I don’t even know the good stations to try to find something on my own….I know it is quite sad for me

  116. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I seen this yesterday, I should of posted it then
    ___________________________
    WASHINGTON (CNN) — Records from a cell phone used by President-elect Obama were improperly breached, apparently by employees of the cell phone company, Verizon Wireless said Thursday.

    “This week we learned that a number of Verizon Wireless employees have, without authorization, accessed and viewed President-Elect Barack Obama’s personal cell phone account,”

    Lowell McAdam, Verizon Wireless president and CEO, said in a statement. “All employees who have accessed the account — whether authorized or not — have been put on immediate leave, with pay.

    “The Obama transition team was notified Wednesday by Verizon of the breach, said team spokesman Robert Gibbs. He said the president-elect no longer uses the phone.

    McAdam said the device on the account was a simple voice flip-phone, not a BlackBerry or other smartphone designed for e-mail or other data services, so none of Obama’s e-mail could have been accessed.

    Verizon Wireless, meanwhile, has launched an internal probe to determine whether Obama’s information was simply shared among employees or whether “the information of our customer had in any way been compromised outside our company, and this investigation continues,” McAdam said in an internal company e-mail obtained by CNN.

    “Employees with legitimate business needs for access will be returned to their positions, while employees who have accessed the account improperly and without legitimate business justification will face appropriate disciplinary action,” McAdam said, “up to and including termination.”The company has alerted “the appropriate federal law enforcement authorities,” McAdam said.

    Gibbs said that while the Secret Service has been notified, he is not aware of any criminal investigation. He said he believes it was billing records that were accessed.Gibbs said that anyone viewing the records likely would have been able to see phone numbers and the frequency of calls Obama made, but that “nobody was monitoring voicemail or anything like that.”

    Keep your eyes open folks something tells me these records will surface.

  117. j.b. Says:

    The ex fed is prolly missing…….or worse. Hope not!
    The thing about Larry is, “Why”? Why would he continue to go through with this if it were not true? I mean, I believe him when he says he has had death threats against him, his blogs have been attacked (I got a virus just reading there! I know, eeuwww!) to the point of having to be reset over and over.
    He began by asking Obama jsut to tell the truth about the drugs…..the other S e x stuff came out when he was questioned by an Obamabot, whom Larry now believes to be the deceased choir director, Donald Young, from Rev. Wrights church. Ahem, 20 years he went there. Obama, too, right? Anyhoo, it is a very compelling story and a tragic one as well. Keep in mind that Donald Young was murdered in his apt. just last December. Hmmmm.
    I believe Larry. Yep, I do.

  118. Troy Says:

    thinkingmom11 Says:

    November 23, 2008 at 4:18 am
    MAN – you guys – the more I find out about this man the sicker I feel. Is there ANYTHING good about him? Good charity work? Good ANYTHING?
    ————————-
    NOPE!!!!

  119. jjones35811 Says:

    OK, what’s the story with the choir director?

  120. Troy Says:

    jjones35811 Says:

    November 23, 2008 at 4:26 am
    OK, what’s the story with the choir director?
    —————————————–
    That’s a long story!!!

  121. j.b. Says:

    http://larrysinclair.org/
    jjones-go here, there is a plethora of info……….dang that’s a good word.

  122. Tenacity Says:

    Sorry, I got pulled away. I will visit the site and see what changed from my last visit.

  123. j.b. Says:

    crap-http://larrysinclair. org/

    jjones-go here……….

  124. Troy Says:

    Try googling —> sinclair donald young murder video

    Maybe has a short version video

  125. j.b. Says:

    the “crap” was my outburst at forgetting the posting of www. rule…….ugh. Do not put “crap” in the url! 🙂 Ahhhhhhhhh.

  126. sba1872 Says:

    Well, it’s basically after he “came out” with the story, all hell broke loose. He had had phone conversations with Obama campaign because he didn’t like the fact that The One was lying about having stopped drug use by college. I think Larry’s two-day encounter with him was in November 1999. At first, Larry says he received a call from the O campaign from someone asking him why he did not mention the sexual part of the encounter. This surprised Larry because it became Larry didn’t mention that part of it. Then he discovered later on that the person he had been speaking with was Donald Young, the choirmaster at O’s church (Rev. Wright’s church) and it was made clear by the discussion, according to Larry, that Donald Young had also been “intimate” with The One. I know I’m leaving stuff out, but anyway, when Larry found out that Donald Young had been murdered, he felt there may have been some kind of connection. More to follow. This post is too long. Maybe someone else has a better recollection than I.

  127. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Thanks troy – i kinda figured as much. I mean the guy can’t even seem pick a puppy without some kind of agenda…seems the only thing he has ever been about is getting where he is at now. He really needs to get a life.

  128. thinkingmom11 Says:

    bbl gotta run

  129. Tenacity Says:

    Okay, my guess on the ex-agent’s site is two-fold: He has removed the list of many stated facts that he knew first hand…perhaps 1) He is writing a book, and 2) he may have removed them after the election for obvious reasons if he is still connected to the feds. He had previously confirmed Obama’s marital problems, his sexual pervursions & promiscuity, and his drug use up until 2002. Those facts now removed, he seems to be waiting until the courts make their rulings. Who knows, he may be a potential witness and needs to be low key at this point.

  130. j.b. Says:

    Oh and the Rense site has many hours of interviews with Larry. I have to admit, I have not gone there. Such a time commitment and all.

  131. ddlew Says:

    jjones35811 Says:
    November 23, 2008 at 4:20 am

    please fill me in

    ————————————-

    Ok look jj. Can you not use this phrase when discussing Larry Sinclair please??

  132. j.b. Says:

    I want to know the reason for the media “blackout” on the BC issue, but I cannot listen to thet 90 minute blog thingy. Will one of you please give me the gist? TIA!

  133. jjones35811 Says:

    I’m gonna ask a funny question here…. Why hasn’t the MSM covered any of this ? 🙂

  134. jjones35811 Says:

    dd,
    I was gonna ask for some to fill in the holes but I thought better of it…

  135. ddlew Says:

    jjones35811 Says:
    November 23, 2008 at 4:47 am

    dd,
    I was gonna ask for some to fill in the holes but I thought better of it…

    ————————————————

    hahahahahahahaha!!

  136. Tenacity Says:

    The ex-agent also reported that BO connections to criminals; Rezco, Ayers, and numerous others were much more extensive than has been reported.

  137. sba1872 Says:

    Tenacity says:

    “Okay, my guess on the ex-agent’s site is two-fold: He has removed the list of many stated facts that he knew first hand…perhaps 1) He is writing a book, and 2) he may have removed them after the election for obvious reasons if he is still connected to the feds. He had previously confirmed Obama’s marital problems, his sexual pervursions & promiscuity, and his drug use up until 2002. Those facts now removed, he seems to be waiting until the courts make their rulings. Who knows, he may be a potential witness and needs to be low key at this point.

    The ex-agent also reported that BO connections to criminals; Rezco, Ayers, and numerous others were much more extensive than has been reported.”

    ———————
    All I can is WOW.

  138. jjones35811 Says:

    Ok,
    I’m getting a better understanding of the story. My take on it is this, If Sinclair is lying to have his 15 minutes of fame he sure is going through some pretty extreme measures to do so. I can’t understand why someone would lie about this and be subjected to the things he has. That in it self does not me he isn’t lying. But it does make you wonder…

  139. Tenacity Says:

    jj,
    choir director, Donald Young, told Sinclair via phone (DY called Sinclair on a phone number he could only have obtained from the O campaign) and told LS than he DY had also been sexually involved with BO. On Christmas Eve 2007, someone put a bullet through DY’s head. Ruled a homicide. LS has insinuated to Chicago Police that BO has a motive.

  140. jjones35811 Says:

    Tenacity,
    holy crap…

  141. jjones35811 Says:

    how does this stuff not get out?

  142. Tenacity Says:

    The ex-agent had also confirmed Obama’s membership in a socialist/communist group in Chicago. If my memory serves me right it was called The New Party. I know I saw a newspaper article elsewhere showing members with BO in the photo. He left The New Party right before he announced his candidacy for state senate.

  143. Troy Says:

    It’s called COVER -UP

  144. Tenacity Says:

    jj,
    All one can do in my position is speculate. From what I’ve read, it seems that BO was selected by big money people like Soros, Geffen and others. MO’s ex-boss Valerie Jarrett (Iranian born muslim) took a real liking to BO and introduced him to a lot of high powered people; Daley machine types, shady money types and extreme leftists in Chicago and he was lifted up from there with his past being hidden to facilitate his rise with the support of a lot of money.

  145. j.b. Says:

    Christmas Eve? Somehow that got lost on me.
    jjones, did you find the plethora of info on that link I gave?
    I spent waaaaaay too much time reading there when I first heard about him.
    Oh, the other scam was the rigged lie detector test that LS took.
    Ever hear of whitehouse .c o m? Yeah, scum bags ran it-set Larry up, big time.
    Also, I read (somewhere) that there have been 3 (?) other murders of black, gay men from THAT same church since DY!
    I may be wrong, but the person was suggesting that someone was trying to make it look like a serial killer thing.
    I’m tellin’ ya, that there is some scary sh!t. Seriously.

  146. Troy Says:

    Tenacity Says:

    November 23, 2008 at 5:11 am
    jj,
    All one can do in my position is speculate. From what I’ve read, it seems that BO was selected by big money people like Soros, Geffen and others. MO’s ex-boss Valerie Jarrett (Iranian born muslim) took a real liking to BO and introduced him to a lot of high powered people; Daley machine types, shady money types and extreme leftists in Chicago and he was lifted up from there with his past being hidden to facilitate his rise with the support of a lot of money.
    ———————————-
    Bingo!!!…..Ding Ding Ding!!!!

  147. ddlew Says:

    Tenacity Says:
    November 23, 2008 at 5:04 am

    The ex-agent had also confirmed Obama’s membership in a socialist/communist group in Chicago. If my memory serves me right it was called The New Party. I know I saw a newspaper article elsewhere showing members with BO in the photo. He left The New Party right before he announced his candidacy for state senate.

    ——————–

    Actually he won his first election (by default) while he was a member of “The New Party”. He ran as a Democrat, just like the rest of the New Party members.

  148. j.b. Says:

    I also believe that NO ONE expected BO to be on such a fast track to the WH. imo.

    Rememer the MO quote?
    “He’s hasn’t done anything”. In response to a repoerter asking if he would run in ’08.

  149. ddlew Says:

    From the October 1996 Update of the DSA ‘New Party’:
    “New Party members are busy knocking on doors, hammering down lawn signs, and phoning voters to support NP candidates this fall. Here are some of our key races…

    Illinois: Three NP-members won Democratic primaries last Spring and face off against Republican opponents on election day: Danny Davis (U.S. House), Barack Obama (State Senate) and Patricia Martin (Cook County Judiciary).”

    New Party members and supported candidates won 16 of 23 races, including an at-large race for the Little Rock, Ark., City Council, a seat on the county board for Little Rock and the school board for Prince George’s County, Md. Chicago is sending the first New Party member to Congress, as Danny Davis, who ran as a Democrat, won an overwhelming 85% victory. New Party member Barack Obama was uncontested for a State Senate seat from Chicago.

    newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/10/08/will-msm-report-obama-membership-socialist-new-party

  150. j.b. Says:

    He has not run a damn ice cream shop, yet he is going to be our next President Of The United States!

    Thank you MSNBCCBSCNNABCNYTIMES…….etc.

  151. Tenacity Says:

    Thanks dd for clarifying my comments. I was winging it and glad to have the backup.

  152. Troy Says:

    It’s a sad state of affairs

  153. sba1872 Says:

    From what I remember from the Evelyn Pringle series, the Illinois Combine is completely bipartisan. I think that’s what BO means by “reaching across the aisle.”

  154. jjones35811 Says:

    Well, I think it might be a rough 4 years….

  155. Tenacity Says:

    jj,
    If you didn’t pick up on it, Sinclair apparently has a terminal brain tumor. He was annoyed by the fact that BO claimed no drug use since his college years and LS had BO buy cocaine for him and saw BO pull a crack pipe out of his pocket and smoke it in Nov ’99. He contacted BO in 2007 and demanded he come clean on his drug use. It was his contact with the BO campaign (Axelrod) that facilitated Young getting his very new cell phone number and calling him.

  156. jjones35811 Says:

    Tenacity,
    Yes, I got pretty much all of that. I just am amazed that none of this has seen the light of day

  157. Tenacity Says:

    jj,
    If it wasn’t for the internet, I wouldn’t know any of this.

  158. j.b. Says:

    LS has a brain tumor? I did not know that! I knew he had some vision issues a bit ago……..geez. What a shame.
    Golden Boy gets away with …….oh, nevermind.

  159. Tenacity Says:

    BO’s IP goons have successfully shut down many websites in an effort to squash as much of this as they could. BO has collected a very large and capable group of leftists (mostly muslim) that have followed him ever since his time at Ocidental.

  160. jjones35811 Says:

    Tenacity,
    Of course, myself as well. I had heard of the sinclair story, never really followed up on it.

  161. Tenacity Says:

    One thing that I was personally aware of from the git-go was that a congregational church (Trinity) was the perfect place for a muslim (at the very least muslim sympathizer) to appear being a part of the Christian community. Not all United CoC churches adhere to black liberation theology, by they all seem to embrace all world religions. They are typically funded by elitists that are far from fundamentalists. They do not follow a Christ centered ministry, but rather embrace humanism and naturalism, more similar to agnostics and atheists. So just about any kind of religious philosophy fits in at any of these congregational churches.

  162. ddlew Says:

    Yes Tenacity,

    In Black Liberation Theology you are BLACK before you are Christian and that’s why Muslims affiliate with them and THAT’S why Obama’s church honored Louis Farrakhan.

    Black Liberation Theology does not recognize a “god” that isn’t against white people.

    Don’t you see why it was so easy for Obama to participate in the million man march?

  163. Tenacity Says:

    dd,
    Easy? He probably helped organize it.

  164. ddlew Says:

    True

  165. j.b. Says:

    Well, something was going on in that church (that was so bad) that inspired Oprah to have left it………..

    I could not find any info on LS’s site that he was diagnosed with a brain tumor. Anyone? I am quite tired……….maybe I just missed it. K……see yous on the morrow.

  166. Tenacity Says:

    j.b.
    I believe he concedes that at the end of his press conference at the National Press Club, perhaps during the Q & A.

  167. ddlew Says:

    Mr. Sinclair is now confirming he has a brain tumor and is in a great amount of pain.

    Mr. Sinclair just published this on his site;
    larrysinclair0926.wordpress.com/ (deleted blog)

    It had been my intent and desire to not bring my health into this story because it has no bearing on the FACTS. However, several Youtube claims along with Globe Magazines claims that I am mentally ill and that my health is playing a part in this story have made it necessary for me to set the record straight.

    Yes, I have been diagnosed with a Brain Tumor. NO, I am not on my death bed. In fact I never stated to the Globe or anyone else that I had less than a year to live. The funny thing about all these claims of my impending demise is that no one can make such a claim, not even me. The reason being is simple, when I was diagnosed I made the decision not to treat and to allow nature to take its course. I believe we all are going to die, and when it is our time there is nothing any of us or any Dr. can do. So my decision was mine and I have not allowed any Dr. to tell me what they believe is my expiration date.

    mrsircy.blogspot.com/2008/03/larry-sinclair-has-brain-tumor.html

  168. Tenacity Says:

    Check this out:
    http: //www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2136820/posts

    Notice comment #2 looks like a verbatim statement I saw JWesq make on here in the last 36 hours.

  169. sba1872 Says:

    Tenacity,

    Do you mean the comment by “ga medic”?

  170. Tenacity Says:

    Perhaps I am reading it wrong, but I think its the one by “television is just wrong”: It is fine to solicit donations from Americans overseas. Many donations are made by Americans abroad.

  171. sba1872 Says:

    I think that comment is by ga medic. Makes sense. First, he’s a lawyer, then a doctor. He’s probably posting the same comments somewhere as as “Indian Chief.”

  172. Tenacity Says:

    It looks like Dr. Polarik’s grande finale will be coming “soon.” I know…he really has the goods and I am being impatient. I appreciate him being diligent and wanting to produce a document that will be difficult to attack.

  173. sba1872 Says:

    I thought that was it, the fact that the border is from a different year than the seal.

  174. Tenacity Says:

    sba,
    I understood that Polarik is producing a complete revised and updated argument including a summary, all evidence and conclusions…a multi-page thesis if you will.

  175. Troy Says:

    Tenacity Says:

    November 23, 2008 at 6:38 am
    sba,
    I understood that Polarik is producing a complete revised and updated argument including a summary, all evidence and conclusions…a multi-page thesis if you will.
    ————————————————————
    That’s right …he is making as to be worthy of turning in to the courts as evidence

  176. Tenacity Says:

    sba,
    One of us is having trouble following the comments & sources at Freerepublic and its probably me. If I start at the first comment, it seems to starts with the number and the comment follows. If I follow the way you see them, the lines seperate the comments. I’d like to know which is correct.

  177. sba1872 Says:

    Oh, that’s great. I’m not too good with those kinds of computer graphics things, though. I had difficulty understanding the previous technical analyses. I know somehow techdude’s was discredited, but I’m not sure I understood any of the proofs at all.

  178. Tenacity Says:

    I believe Polarik is trying to make it so any layman can understand the evidence…or a judge and a jury. I know his explanation on that radio interview that Rose posted was quite clear.

  179. Troy Says:

    Go check out Sinclair’s new site and look at the You Tube message that he just posted….It was from an Obot and shows what he has been putting up with….It’s in the center column below the Rev. Manning video

    larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com/

  180. sba1872 Says:

    Thanks for reminding me. I’m going to listen to that now, begin I go to bed.

  181. Tenacity Says:

    When I click on the YouTube Threat, it comes up server error or tells me the movie script may shut down my computer if I continue.

  182. Troy Says:

    Don’t click on the title…just scroll down and read the message

  183. Tenacity Says:

    Troy,
    Why do I feel unclean? That kind of mind is beyond any reason or rational thought. You just gotta hope that animal gets put away…somehow removed from society.

  184. ILBlue Says:

    Pllfreerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2136816/postsarik’s Final Report : Too long to list here follow link.

    ok after the Pll put in the usual before freerepublic.

  185. Troy Says:

    link does’t work

  186. sba1872 Says:

    freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2136816/posts

  187. Troy Says:

    thanks

  188. ILBlue Says:

    Sorry guess I still wasn’t able to show link properly…:(

  189. sba1872 Says:

    ILBlue,

    Thanks for the alert that it was posted!

  190. ILBlue Says:

    No problem ..happy to help out.

  191. rosettasister Says:

    Good morning, America! How are you?!

    Total Views 11/22 4089

    Please notice that I have updated post above with latest from Polarik.

    If you haven’t already done so, I encourage you to go to link at Free Republic to view all of Polarik’s images.

    Have a glorious Sunday!

    Rose

  192. jjones35811 Says:

    polarik.blogtownhall.com/
    Ok, it’s proven to be a forgery…now what?

  193. rosettasister Says:

    Others blogging about Polarik’s findings.

    http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/11/birth-certificate-issue-will-not-die.html

    http://www.lanlamphere.com/public/2008/11/23/polariks-final-report-obamas-born-conspiracy-forged-images-phony-photos-and-felony-fraud/

    http://chicagoray.blogspot.com/2008/11/definative-report-on-hussein-obama.html

  194. rosettasister Says:

    I’m not sure to what this commenter is referring.

    But I found it interesting.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2136816/posts

    To: Polarik
    The version posted on 0bama’s website has OHBM in the lower left corner. The folded copy with serial number which has appeared in photographs has OHSM in the lower left corner.
    A case of too many forgers spoiling the broth ?

    69 posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 6:48:17 AM by ComputerGuy

  195. rosettasister Says:

    “God loves America and will bless the American people with the truth that is to come”

    http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/11/23/god-loves-america-and-will-bless-the-american-people-with-the-truth-that-is-to-come/

    EXCERPT

    This entry was posted on November 23, 2008 at 1:02 am

    The tape exists. I know some people have reached a point where they are almost loosing faith in all this now that it has taken over one month before the tape has been released, but they have to understand that I am not thinking of America only, but also of what will really happen to me or others thereafter.

    I know all these will change my life drastically because of the tape’s sensitivity and the fact that API recently experienced how people can really do evil things to stop the truth from coming out when API’s enemies managed to set up a huge propaganda machine that silenced API’s news outlet for some days.

    If people are ready to go a long way to close one’s sites by putting in a lot of effort, we must not forget that such people are also willing and ready to hurt others.

    In order to save API from much trouble, API decided to recall all published articles on the Obama’s and review them, remove all negative comments so that when the tape is released, API will not be forced to use time defending unnecessary comments by enemies of truth but get time to focus on defending the truth in connection with the tape.

    The release of the tape had been scheduled for this weekend. Friday night or today Saturday night. API has used more time than expected in cleaning the site so that when the tape is aired we do not have to worry about the contents in our site.

    We know the enemies will try the best they can to close us down immediately the tape is aired, and for this reason, we are using time to tighten things and close all the loopholes that may be there so that when the airing takes place, we will, together with all lovers of truth, rejoice and praise the good Lord for having given all of us the strength to be patient as we have since the 15th of October.

    API is almost cleaned up now. Most of you may have followed what is happening on the site now and in the past two days.

    Immediately the site is totally cleaned up, we will announce our roadmap to all our readers.

    By Chief Editor Korir, africanpress@getmail.no

    http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/

  196. thinkingmom11 Says:

    OK – I am muddling through Polarik’s report and I too see the OHBM at the bottom of the Fightthesmears posted document. Man, that by itself is enough for me to say “WTF!?”

    It is fairly technical, and DRY reading though very intriguing————>going back….

  197. rosettasister Says:

    thinkingmom11 Says:
    November 23, 2008 at 3:40 pm

    I too see the OHBM at the bottom of the Fightthesmears posted document. Man, that by itself is enough for me to say “WTF!?”

    ——————————-

    okay, TM

    I really want to pinpoint exactly which two images I should be comparing

    so I can post them here

    “The version posted on 0bama’s website has OHBM in the lower left corner. The folded copy with serial number which has appeared in photographs has OHSM in the lower left corner.” (comment found at FR)

  198. peppermintpatty777 Says:

    Good morning everyone! Just reading and catching up on the “hoo ha”…

    It was 10 deg. here this morning. My fingers are numb–it’s hard to type. Went out to get wood to throw on the fire…ouch..Yeah we have a heat pump but hate giving money to the electric co.

    I think that AA will be just as angry, if not more so, once the truth comes out that BO is not an “AA” but an imposter as are the non-AA! No one likes to be tricked or lied to. I know a lot of AA who do not support BO. I think it’s like saying that all Dems support BO, and that is just not true. This should have been a monumental moment in our history, but it has been stolen by BO and the Dems who have known and yet hid the truth.

  199. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Hang on a sec…let me get it RS

  200. dixieinflorida Says:

    Wow he did a lot of research. Now who’s going to listen to it?

  201. thinkingmom11 Says:

    The image with the OHBM at the bottom follows this statement:

    “On the same day, the Obama Campaign posted a duplicate copy of that same image on their website, Fight The Smears, (FTS) although the size of their copy was reduced to about 42% of the Kos image:”

    It is found after the multiple images of “State of Hawaii” graphics

    The best compariason size wise, I think is the one much further down that follows the statement:

    “Compared to the scans I have that were made from a real 2007 COLB, both the Seal and the lower fold are more easily seen than the Obama COLB — either with the naked eye:”

  202. thinkingmom11 Says:

    There are other images of BHO’s COLB that have the “OHSM” at the bottom which makes it even weird! There are actually two images in Polarik’s report that show the OHBM in the corner…

    Is Polarik the guy who showed the Bush Nat. Guard records were forgeries – much to Mr. Rather’s dismay?

  203. Troy Says:

    Good Morning Mom

  204. rosettasister Says:

    thinkingmom11 Says:
    November 23, 2008 at 4:29 pm

    ——————-

    Thanks, TM!

  205. rosettasister Says:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2136816/posts

    To: Technical Editor
    While it’s great that this research is available to us here, I would like to know that it is being disseminated to those who might actually be able to do some good with it — and I don’t mean other conservatives. What bothers me is that we keep on talking to ourselves.
    I’ve got a guy from Illuminati TV along with Janet Folger, from Faith 2 Action, who will do a a video of myself presenting my research, that will be posted on YOUTUBE this week. then, the word will really get out.

    84 posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 9:04:51 AM by Polarik
    ———————

    am going to find (2) images now

  206. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    hello everyone

  207. dixieinflorida Says:

    Youtube has all kinds of things about that birth certificate. Still it’s being ignored by those in power

    youtube.com/watch?v=IHwxk7ljJBE&feature=related

  208. dixieinflorida Says:

    Friday, November 21, 2008

    Hawai’i court blocks release of Barack Obama’s birth certificate

    Andy Martin hopes to appeal Honolulu court decision on Obama birth certificate. “Another court, another cover-up,” says Martin. “What is wrong with our country when someone can be ‘elected’ without providing access to the original copy of their birth certificate? Something is drastically wrong with our democracy, and every American will pay the price. We will be issuing a fund raising appeal to continue this battle on appeal. The claim that a president’s birth certificate is secret is complete nonsense.”

    Andy Martin hopes to appeal Honolulu court decision on Obama birth certificate, but has not yet received a copy of the ruling

    ANDY MARTIN
    Executive Editor
    ContrarianCommentary.com

  209. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Good morning everyone – I have to check out for a while – gotta get to church! You know I will be back later!!

  210. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    l8r Thinkingmom

  211. rosettasister Says:

    FYI

    I have added the (2) images we were discussing to post above.

    Thanks to thinkingmom!

    Not sure what it means, be interested to see if Polarik comments on this.

    Going to scramble some eggs now.

    bbl

    Rose

  212. jjones35811 Says:

    Anyone have a link for the Keyes case ?

  213. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    jj

    nbcaugusta.com/news/elections/presheadlines/34587804.html

    whoa that is a big step, NBC Augusta had this artical today, finally a hint of real reporting from MSM

  214. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Opps guess it was published on Nov 18th

  215. ldog70 Says:

    Hey everyone!! wwwwwaaaaazzzzzzzz uuuuuuuuupppppppppppp???????????

    Can anybody explain what OHBM and OHSM stand for??

  216. sba1872 Says:

    jj,

    This is a link to the writ or petition or whatever they call it in California, but I don’t know what, if anything, is happening with it on the docket.

    soundinvestments.us/files/final_writ_keyes_v_bowen.pdf

  217. lyn Says:

    A few poeple asked about the Arab /slave trader claim kennethelamb.blogspot.com/2008/02/barak-obama-questions-about-ethnic.html

    it is just a http do not put WWW

  218. sba1872 Says:

    From the Hawaii Department of Health:

    “Vital records (birth, death, marriage, and divorce certificates) for events that occurred in Hawaii are received and preserved by the Office of Health Status Monitoring, a unit of the Department of Health. In Hawaii, access to vital records is restricted by statute (HRS §338-18).”

    So OHSM = Office of Health Status Monitoring.

  219. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I was reading the post in responce to the NBC Augusta news artical about Keyes….
    Makes me mad,….. I hate that the racial card is used over and over whenever anything bad is said about BO.

    I wouldn’t care if he was pink with purple pocka dots, IF he was a good leader and would do great things for this country.

    Right now he refuses to even prove he is even qualified to be Pres.. and makes a mockery out of the Constitution.

  220. rovingpatrol Says:

    OK, Polarik is giving his report to some lawyers. The question is, what will the lawyers do with it?

  221. Clarity Says:

    The OHBM and OHSM may be nothing ….

    The OHSM looks to be the clearest and on many if not most of the documents that you can see on the naked eye. This includes the documents from other people.

    The OHBM looks to be a bit fuzzy and only appears to be on BO websites (fight the smear). It could be just because of the file size that the line blurred closing the S. When you are working with small pixels it could happen in shrinking than magnifying. Yet, to my eyes it looks like a B. However, look to the right is it LASER or LABER? Just shows you how things on that form are blurry.

  222. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    rovingpatrol
    Things are finally heating up, so MAYBE some good will come from it…
    We are not letting the matter rest, so MSM reporting will have to give some air time to this eventually

  223. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Wish I knew how to set up a internet petition,..
    I would have one go to every MSM source I could…… demanding that they start covering news and not picking and choosing what they want to spin

  224. rosettasister Says:

    Clarity Says:
    November 23, 2008 at 6:16 pm

    ——————-

    The OHBM looks to be a bit fuzzy and only appears to be on BO websites (fight the smear).

    —————————–

    I don’t think so, Clarity.

    Had the 1st image been at a higher magnification, you would see that it is clearly a “B” and not an “S”

    I’ll try and make it more clear.

    Again, I really don’t know what this means.

    Rose

  225. Cyndi Says:

    Hello everyone!! Don’t forget about the Vera Baker affair. Another controversial issue on Barack. Not so much that he had an affair but the cover up and the fact that she was exiled to Martinque. Lies, lies, and more lies.
    Can you bring a lawsuit to court from-

    We the people vs. Barack Obama

  226. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Rosetta – too think is is a “B” and not an “S’ (although the whole this smells of B.S.!)

  227. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I meant – I too think…

  228. rosettasister Says:

    Regarding comparing two images in post above:

    I’m not having trouble enlarging 1st image, but I am having trouble getting image to save with the enlargement.

    So…

    If you want to see for yourself:

    Right clck on 1st image (OHBM)

    Save Image As

    Save to your desktop

    Double click on image file

    should open into Paint Shop Photo Album

    Enlarge to 200%

    You will see it is clearly a “B”

    And not an “S”

    (Sorry, I really don’t know what I’m doing and I don’t know exactly what this means.)

    what I don’t know is a lot! LOL!

  229. rosettasister Says:

    Hi, TM

    Yes it is clearly a “B”

    But what does this mean?

  230. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Here is what *I* think OHBM means:

    Office of Half-truths and Bullsh*t Management

    What do you think?

    It might also mean:

    Obfuscation and Hoaxes for Barack and the Media

  231. thinkingmom11 Says:

    It means someone was careless in reproducing this forged document..

  232. Tenacity Says:

    I disagree that it looks like a B. 400% mag shows it clearly as an S. It does have some bleed or watermark in the spaces, but looks like an S to me.

  233. rosettasister Says:

    Thanks for the laughter TM!

    These images are from Polarik

    So we’ll have to wait and see what he says

    And he’s probably busy making his video

    I’m going outside and enjoying this gorgeous day!

    How bout you?

  234. rosettasister Says:

    Tenacity Says:
    November 23, 2008 at 8:27 pm

    I disagree that it looks like a B. 400% mag shows it clearly as an S. It does have some bleed or watermark in the spaces, but looks like an S to me.

    ————————

    I looked at it at 400%

    Still looked like a B to me

  235. thinkingmom11 Says:

    OK Tenacity – I saved the pic to word and REALLY made it big and I will concede that it very well could be an S only because the top left of the letter is more curved that what you would expect a B to be. I will say, that there is a terrible ammount of bleeding that you would not expect from a laser printer, though.

  236. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Rosette – it is an absolutely beautiful day here in Northern California. Sun is out, 61 degrees. I am going to try to find something to do outside – I don’t even mind yardwork on a day like today 🙂

    psst – I still think it’s a B. I don’t have a B to compare it to so I looked at the R and it is also a little rounded at the top left…

  237. rosettasister Says:

    thinkingmom11 Says:
    November 23, 2008 at 8:36 pm

    Rosette – it is an absolutely beautiful day here in Northern California.

    ———————–

    Sounds beautiful, TM!

    well, I’m going to fish the grasshoppers out of my pool

    we’ve had a plague of grasshoppers this year

    what next?!

    see ya later, all!

  238. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Been lurkling while posting blogs/links on my site..
    now I REALLY have to get busy… walls to wash down, carpets to shampoo…lol the trouble I go through when family is coming over for a holiday..

    Added a few things to my site.. also check out the links on the right..
    use the “contact me” link to email my anything you might want me to add.

    link is in my name for the blog…..

  239. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Have a good day Cindy!

  240. Tenacity Says:

    Now you know that I have been making comments about not engaging reactive people and allowing them to become the center of attention. I was just over at FR looking at comments to Polarik’s Incredibly Fantastic piece and ran across this:

    Colonial Warrior (Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction.)

    I’m just jealous that someone else posted it first, but I may steal it.

  241. Troy Says:

    Cyndi Says:

    November 23, 2008 at 7:43 pm
    Hello everyone!! Don’t forget about the Vera Baker affair. Another controversial issue on Barack. Not so much that he had an affair but the cover up and the fact that she was exiled to Martinque. Lies, lies, and more lies.
    Can you bring a lawsuit to court from-

    We the people vs. Barack Obama
    ————————————————————
    Absolutely…..You just need to get the signatures

  242. ddlew Says:

    It’s almost Monday in Norway. I guess the tapes WON’T be released this weekend. Go figure…….

  243. thinkingmom11 Says:

    ddlew – you know the thing that really bothers me the most about the API thing is how often he quotes scripture and references Christ. If he used the word of God and peoples faith in Christ to perpetuate a hoax – then I would not want to be him on judgement day. I will be more upset at his misusing Christ in this matter than I would be if he just admitted it was a trick that got out of hand and that there is no tape.

  244. thinkingmom11 Says:

    wow – that was a poorly constructed sentence – sorry

  245. rosettasister Says:

    TM

    You know I think the world of you

    But please don’t be so quick to judge

    But thanks for the opportunity you’ve provided for me to post the following:

    ————————–

    Friend:

    Korir posted lyrics you sent him.

    Very nice.

    This is sure to get Mountain Sage in a tizzy!

    I happened to see her comment where she stated it really got her goat when Korir started with the Christian stuff.

    I think she considers herself a Christian and thought it awful that a “scammer” like Korir would invoke Jesus’ name.

    She better take a good, long look in the mirror.

    Nice work, Friend!

    Be well

    Rose

    ————————-

    I know. When he received them he sent back a link to it. I also sent him the songs themselves. They were for his use, but he can post them if he wants them posted.

    He told me he was putting them on there with my name. I said something to him about the fact they were upset with the scriptures that were being posted and that I hoped they would reflect back on them and learn from them.

    He said he was going to try and down load the songs and try putting them on the page we will see.

    Maybe I can go and see if I can find the You Tube videos for them and give them to him.

    It will have them in a tizzy, but oh well. He said he was going to a brief meeting and would try when he got back.

    I shared them with him because while I was practicing for tomorrow’s service he came to mind and so I took some of the ones we will be singing (I sing in the Praise Band making beautiful noise unto the Lord) and then added a couple of them and sent them to him along of course with the lyrics.

    It wasn’t until I went to the site and re-read the lyrics, that they were meant to be for him for all he has been through and all of us for that matter.

    Perfect, huh!! Anyway, thank you so very much for sharing your thoughts with me. Have a wonderful and blessed day.

  246. hockeyfan530 Says:

    hello folks. Trying to catch up. Been a long weekend. Anything new?

  247. rosettasister Says:

    Susie just left this on previous thread

    I hope she makes her way here
    —————————

    susiehudson Says:
    November 23, 2008 at 11:01 pm edit

    ahhhhhh..believe.whatfoolsdont ………here comes the tapes nananananan..its alright

  248. thinkingmom11 Says:

    RS – I am REALLY trying to be understanding and patient and, to be honest with you, I would have given up LONG ago except for his professed Christianity. I am a Christian and I assume that NO ONE would use scripture and profess and ask for prayer in the way he has unless he truely believe it. Because of this, I am still on the fence with that little flicker of hope that just won’t completely die. The only reason is Christ. I cannot believe that a true Christian – which Korir appears to be – would be quoting scriture and trusting God in order to support a lie or hoax. SO – here I sit. I am starting to feel like that post turtle but I still hope…
    I am glad to have this website so I can talk with others about so many other important issues and for that I thank you!!

    So I agree that it isnever OK to support a lie with scripture but it is always OK to support truth. So I am reserving judgement until it is proven either true or false – because, truthfully, it has been proven neither – yet.

    PS – you sound like you know something I don’t know…..hmmmmm

  249. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Thank you, too, for sharing those thoughts Rose

  250. rosettasister Says:

    hockeyfan530 Says:
    November 23, 2008 at 11:07 pm edit

    hello folks. Trying to catch up. Been a long weekend. Anything new?

    ———————–

    hello, hockey fan

    As far as I know, what’s new is Polarik’s final report which is posted above

    And some of us here are wondering about a discrepancy between (2) images

    also posted above

    I have a question in to Polarik at Free Republic along with two others

    still waiting for answer

    I’m sure there’s more, but that’s all I’m aware of

  251. hockeyfan530 Says:

    i don’t get API, if he has the tape release it already! I doubt it exists but , if it does, the more they stall the harder it will be. Whatever.

    notice the use of the commas? The comma discussion was the last i was able to read

  252. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Fan – you are a quick study!! that was a fun discussion and I finally decided it was just a “comma”spiract theory…

  253. hockeyfan530 Says:

    however, if he is not a Chrsitian then it’s fair game, to the non-christian to use it. In their mind it would be no harm no foul. But I still can’t grasp what the point of this would be. There are a lot of legitimate cases against Obama so we don’t really need the tape…although helpful

  254. thinkingmom11 Says:

    RULE #1 – when making a joke – spell everything correctly! Sorry

  255. hockeyfan530 Says:

    i can’t spell good none…but my grammer is inpecable

  256. rosettasister Says:

    PS – you sound like you know something I don’t know…..hmmmmm

    thinkingmom11 Says:
    November 23, 2008 at 11:12 pm

    Thank you, too, for sharing those thoughts Rose

    ————————

    Well there’s plenty I know that I cannot share for one reason or another

    but as far as the Korir’s veracity

    I used to say that I believe “with all my heart”

    I had to remove myself somewhat, Korir hurt my feelings

    Now this is more cerebral for me

    But with my head now, I still believe.

    But as you can see I am still in touch with some who are 100% on board

    And they’re good women, TM

    The salt of the earth.

    Rose

  257. thinkingmom11 Says:

    OK – you just bought me a little more time on the fence! Thanks, Rose

  258. thinkingmom11 Says:

    LOL fan!

  259. rosettasister Says:

    thinkingmom11 Says:
    November 23, 2008 at 11:22 pm

    OK – you just bought me a little more time on the fence! Thanks, Rose

    —————————-

    Glad to be of service

    Need to work on putting new post up

    will let you know

    Rose

  260. hockeyfan530 Says:

    man, i can’t hope that all of the cases against Obama gets him out. I promised my fiancee that i wouldn’t talk about the election when it was over. And I’ve been pretty good about it too. I just want to be able to say I told you so. In a nice way. Just so all of my friends that voted for Obama know i wasn’t crazy or “just a conservative”. I told them if Clinton were running against McCain i would not be worried. I don’t think they believed that. But it’s true. I think Obama is a wolf in sheeps clothing. I honestly believe that somethings not right with him. I would also love to see the MSM to got down with the ship.

  261. hockeyfan530 Says:

    man, i hope that all of the cases against Obama gets him out. I promised my fiancee that i wouldn’t talk about the election when it was over. And I’ve been pretty good about it too. I just want to be able to say I told you so. In a nice way. Just so all of my friends that voted for Obama know i wasn’t crazy or “just a conservative”. I told them if Clinton were running against McCain i would not be worried. I don’t think they believed that. But it’s true. I think Obama is a wolf in sheeps clothing. I honestly believe that somethings not right with him. I would also love to see the MSM to got down with the ship.

  262. hockeyfan530 Says:

    sorry for the double post “can’t” isn’t supposed to be in there

  263. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I know what you mean Fan – I am hoping that some of this starts getting out into the MSM so people aren’t surprised if something crazy happens – Like Leo’s case getting heard.

    Funny, I didn’t pay much attention to the DEM campaign until it started winding up. I am not a big fan of Hilary’s and thought I would rather have anyone but her in the White House – that is until I started learning more about Obama. I now can only WISH that the democrat about to take office was going to be Hilary (NEVER thought I would say THAT!)

  264. hockeyfan530 Says:

    I really assumed that the american people would see Obama as unelectable. I sincerely did. The guy is a mystery and I thought people wouldn’t stand for that. I assumed the MSM would eventually start vetting Obama. But the more i read the more i understood why the MSM would not vet Obama. They want a lib in office and it doesn’t matter what kind of lib. Hell, if they would have covered the current economic crisis properly i think it would have been a different race.

  265. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I feel much the same as you do Fan. The media seemed to be hell bent on getting Obama in office – they dropped Hilary like a hot potato! If the media – and quite honestly, John McCain, had framed the economic crisis properly, it may indeed have been a different story. To McCain’s credit – he tried (a little) to explain it but he just got NO coverage and, honestly he is not much better at communications than Bush. No way was he going to be able to make his point by himself and the media was about to step in and help. Unfortunately, the problem couldn’t be explained in a 15 second sound bite and there was no catch phrase to slap on it and the American people didn’t want to do the heavy thinking SOOOO we get Obama. How sad.

  266. Tenacity Says:

    Thin,
    I agree that the media needs to pay for their part in this. More importantly, every conspirator that has participated in this fraud needs to do jail time…Axelrod, the Pakistani money bundlers, Factcheck, and numerous others. Most importantly, every illegal contribution must be followed to its source and prosecuted. Bringing That Fraud to justice is just step one.

  267. Tenacity Says:

    HFan,
    BO is no longer a mystery. We know exactly who and what he is, save who his real father is. Some of what is known needs to be proven/documented. The only people who still see him as a mystery are the ones that are depending on the MSM to inform them. All of the known information certainly needs to be organized and put into a presentable case.

  268. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Yep Tena – this is a HUGE problem with many, many guilty parties. And if the media doesn’t cover the Donofrio case at least a little bit so that people are aware of the potential problems then, in my mind, they carry a huge responsibility if there is civil unrest when/if Obama (or even McCain) is found ineligible. I mean most people have NO IDEA what is going on and they are going to FREAK OUT if the Supreme Court “overturns” the election. It could be ugly and the media will be in large part responsible for it.

  269. rosettasister Says:

    New Thread:

    https://rosettasister.wordpress.com/2008/11/24/david-bowie-station-to-station-2/

  270. hockeyfan530 Says:

    amen to that. What i tell friends when asked how i feel about the election i tell them that it sad that Obama supporters were simple UNIFORMED. Not as an insult but since the media simply ignored anything negative about Obama.

  271. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I don’t think the people who rely on the mainstream media even think that BHO is a mystery. I think they think they know who he is. They think this because they have invested their own hopes and dreams for change in him. He was wise to focus on the “HOPE” and “CHANGE” message and to keep it as vague because people projected their own values onto him. He gave the so much hope – they didn’t want to look past the smoke and mirrors – I think they don’t want to know the truth of Obama – they just want that hope.

    I don’t want to get to religeous/philosophical here but I will for a moment. This nation has turned away from God. God is a God of hope. His creation (men) are creatures who need hope. If we do not find our hope in God, we will look elsewhere. This country, this year, looked to Obama.

  272. thinkingmom11 Says:

    shall we head over to the new thread?

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