Van Morrison — Avalon Sunset

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Released 1989

This album was listed at #63 on The Times Magazine list of The Times All Time Top 100 Albums in 1993.

http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/times100.htm

Track listing

  1. Whenever God Shines His Light” – 4:58
  2. “Contacting My Angel” – 4:57
  3. “I’d Love to Write Another Song” – 2:52
  4. Have I Told You Lately” – 4:20
  5. Coney Island” – 2:00
  6. “I’m Tired Joey Boy” – 2:29
  7. “When Will I Ever Learn to Live in God” – 5:38
  8. Orangefield” – 3:50
  9. “Daring Night” – 6:10
  10. These Are the Days” – 5:08

06-im-tired-joey-boy

07-when-will-i-ever-learn-to-live-in-god

08-orangefield

09-daring-night

10-these-are-the-days

Simodrafat’s interpretation:

From: simodrafat

“Sometimes We Cry” – Tom Jones and Van Morrison

Michelle Obama Chief Editor Korir African Press International API

408 Responses to “Van Morrison — Avalon Sunset”

  1. sliderblaze Says:

    and here i am

  2. drsharonschuetz Says:

    Don’t worry, you’re not alone.

  3. sliderblaze Says:

    r u a real doctor?

  4. Kay Says:

    I’m reposting from last topic:

    slider…

    http://ip-address.domaintools.com/ this should bring up your ip address

    click on traceroute and it will show how your server routes your feed.

  5. drsharonschuetz Says:

    sliderblaze Says:

    November 19, 2008 at 10:14 pm
    r u a real doctor?

    ================

    yes. I am a psychologist. I have a Phd in clinical psychology.

  6. ddlew Says:

    Rosettasister

    Did you get a chance to read my response to you on the previous thread?

  7. rosettasister Says:

    ***

    Cyndi Says:
    November 19, 2008 at 10:09 pm

    Gosh Rosettasister thank you so much!!! You might have made my day. I tried to play VM online but couldn’t get the player to download. Thanks Again!!!!

    ———————

    You’re Welcome, Cindy!

    I’m always looking for good ideas.

    Someone else mentioned they liked the TJ – VM song in video.

    Good song.

  8. sliderblaze Says:

    Nice, my sister is a behavioral theropist, she going for her masters then a doctorate

    congrats on that

  9. rosettasister Says:

    ddlew Says:
    November 19, 2008 at 10:18 pm

    Rosettasister

    Did you get a chance to read my response to you on the previous thread?

    ———————

    No, ddlew

    but I’ll go and look for it now

  10. sliderblaze Says:

    um…..ok…..so what would be the usual, like, how many hops?

  11. rosettasister Says:

    ddlew Says:
    November 19, 2008 at 5:21 pm

    Rosettasister

    I began looking for follow up info and MS was the first place I posted via Google search. I quickly realized that the character of many of their members was not up to par with my personal standards and that’s why I chose to post on your site.

    (I’m honored. As far as I can tell seems like a pretty nice group here.)

    Just to let you know, and anyone else here, that my normal hangout is a Christian message board

    http://www.bibleforums.net

    (I’ll check that out.)

    My user name is ddlewis86. I have been posting there for nearly 5 years and was a moderator for about a year and a half there.

    (And they let you stay?! Just kidding!)

    Feel free to look through my posts in order to get a feel for who I am AND if you are so inclined, sign up and join the forum. 🙂

    (Thanks for the invite, ddlew!)

    Rose

  12. sliderblaze Says:

    can anyone tell me what the heck is going on with the ip thingy, i went to visualroute as well and dont know what im looking at…lol

  13. thinkingmom11 Says:

    DrSharon – do you enjoy the company over here more than you do at Mountain Sage? As a whole I think we are much nicer and less obsessed with self-congratulatory smear projects. What is your professional opinion?

  14. Cyndi Says:

    Ok i did the traceroute thing so where can I find where its’ sent I see a bunch of stuff

  15. sliderblaze Says:

    me too, but, it reads like stereo instructions

  16. sliderblaze Says:

    im reading up on it now, bbl, lol

  17. Cyndi Says:

    Kay don’t leave me now I have done the traceroute but I don’t know what I am looking at or for

  18. Kay Says:

    I was reading the Atlas Shrugs about the blog being “scrubbed” from Google searches (I don’t use google.. Gore sits on the board of directors.. my own personal protest!) and I saw the traceroute and decided to look at mine again. I just did it yesterday, not that it means anything to me! 😉

    But I find it odd that my trace follows the same path as the AS blog but routes through Chicago and Cleveland to the East Coast! Strange… Any IT pros out there?
    Or am I in for more ask dot com research? lol

  19. Cyndi Says:

    But Kay I don’t know how to follow my route to see how it is routed…lol
    Did you have to click on something once you did the traceroute

  20. Kay Says:

    Cyndi, no, it should show up on your screen….

  21. drsharonschuetz Says:

    thinkingmom11 Says:

    November 19, 2008 at 10:32 pm
    DrSharon – do you enjoy the company over here more than you do at Mountain Sage? As a whole I think we are much nicer and less obsessed with self-congratulatory smear projects. What is your professional opinion?

    ========================

    I like both sites. I think you have some very intelligent, well read people over hear and I think you have some that aren’t. The same for Mountain Sage.

    I am very aware of what happened the other night and it saddens me that the truth will never be heard, or listened to. There are great people on both sites and I am glad to be part of both. There are other sites that I would never sign my name to. I don’t have a problem with either of these.

  22. Cyndi Says:

    Kay the first IP on mine is nameintelligence.com got anything like that

  23. Ksinde. Says:

    I am probally one of the ones who aren’t…lol 😉

  24. Cyndi Says:

    then on one I clicked to do a reverse IP and got this-
    We do not have any information for that IP/domain.

  25. Ksinde. Says:

    Cyndi, that is the first one on mine too.

  26. jjones35811 Says:

    Kay,
    What is it you’re trying to accomplish with the traceroutes?

  27. drsharonschuetz Says:

    “I like both sites. I think you have some very intelligent, well read people over hear and I think you have some that aren’t. The same for Mountain Sage.”

    “here” not “hear”

  28. Mom In Texas Says:

    I just looked up my traceroute, too. I have no idea what I am looking for! 🙂

  29. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Cyndi – that is what mine said too – and my proxy is highly anonymous (ooooh I feel so 007ish)

  30. Kay Says:

    Now I’m starting to feel foolish! Where are you Slider?

    I fell into AS’s paranoia…. we must have used the same program that I just gave the website for to do the traceroute.
    The website is out of Seattle, so they are NOT scrubbing AS’s site from Google! They are only tracing the ip she is requesting to be traced.

    Here is info I just found from IT pros and the authentic way to do a trace. When I just did it this way, my route was traced along the east coast.

    “If you have a Windows operating system, try traceroute out by clicking on Start–>Programs–>MS-DOS Prompt, and then at the C:WINDOWS prompt, enter:

    tracert http://www.whatis.com

    It will proceed to run the traceroute and will show all the “hops” taken by your server.

    http://searchcio-midmarket.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid183_gci213209,00.html

  31. Kay Says:

    nameintelligence dot com is whois dot com, the company doing the trace through that particular website.

    Like I said, AS definitely used the same site to run the traceroute since this shows up on the posted trace.

    Phew!! I’m not being tracked by someone in Chicago! lol

  32. Kay Says:

    jjones, I had read on another blog about site scrubbing and remembered that I had done a traceroute on my computer yesterday that looked similar to the one displayed on the blog.

    I ran it again and not only was it similar, it was a match on many lines of the hops! So I was curious if others had the same experience.
    I now know that the problem is with the site used to traceroute and not with being tracked or “scrubbed”. All the blog owner has to do is a traceroute through the dos prompt and not a website to show the true route of the isp.

  33. Cyndi Says:

    Ok, I am a dumb one I don’t know what I am doing on my tracerouting encounter. However it would be interesting to know if I was being tracked.

  34. Kay Says:

    the line:

    tracert http:/www dot whatis dot com

    is not a link but what should be typed at the command line in dos

    (In Windows, the MS-DOS prompt can be found underPrograms- Accessories – Command Prompt)

  35. Kay Says:

    Cyndi, I highly doubt it now that I have read the explaination and have used the traceroute from the command prompt.

    There really is no reason to watch anyone here! I haven’t read anything subversive or even mean-spirited on this blog! That goes for the music, also… it is all rather civilized and soothing after the messes on other contentious sites! lol

    Thanks, Rose for the spa atmosphere!

  36. Kay Says:

    um, yea, that was explanation…. sorry, too relaxed!

  37. jjones35811 Says:

    Cydi,
    a tracert will not really tell you if you’re being tracked. It will only tell you the routers ip and name ( and time it takes to get there ) between you and the point you are tracing to. Each hop or step will be a router.

  38. sliderblaze Says:

    i kinda went off an a tangent, gotta love youtube tutorial lol

  39. Cyndi Says:

    Ok I guess I am not as dumb as I thought..lol. I did a trace and I am all over the place got down to number 23 and it timed out.

  40. Cyndi Says:

    Ok maybe I am not that smart after all, I do trust this site. I thought I was tracking myself and seeing if anyone was tracking me… See I don’t know what I am doing all I know is that I did it.

  41. Kay Says:

    jjones, so all we really need to do is make sure our security software is updated and scan regularly, correct?

    I didn’t see any unusual routing for my isp after I performed the traceroute without the whois website. And my wireless network is secure and I do not have any file sharing. My security software runs every morning at 3am.

  42. jjones35811 Says:

    Cyndi,
    timing out at the last step or last few steps is not uncommon. It simply means that the device youve traced to does not respond to icmp (pings). Very likely you hit a firewall or a router configured in that manner.

  43. Cyndi Says:

    Ok thanks all for help. I am all pinged out!!!

  44. jjones35811 Says:

    Kay,
    Yes those are good practices, however “locks were made for honest people”, meaning, nothing is hack proof. If somebody REALLY wants into your system they may be able to find a way. Not to be alarming, the likelyhood of anyone doing so is extremely minimal and there really would be no reason to do so. It would be a lot of effort for very minimal gain.

  45. rosettasister Says:

    ”Sadr Takes Aim at New U.S.-Iraq Agreement”

    http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/2008/11/sadr-takes-aim-at-new-us-iraq-agreement.html

    Wednesday, November 19, 2008

    EXCERPT

    It seems that this is a message to the next American administration: that Tehran is capable of steering some influential politicians in Iraq and that it has something to offer in exchange for American concession regarding — my guess — the nuclear program.

    I think the fact that prominent Sadrist leader Hazim Aaraji said they were shocked by the developments reflects the complexity of Iran’s manipulation of Sadr and the SIIC by letting the latter agree on the deal while encouraging the former to oppose it — a miniature carrot-and-stick game. I doubt the Iranians are happy with the agreement per se; they are only happy with their self-proclaimed ability to play Iraqi Shiite parties against one another. I would even say that Iranians are doing exactly what diplomacy textbooks would instruct regarding presenting one’s own chips.

    What they didn’t understand of the textbooks, though, is that they also need to know how much the person across the table is interested in those chips. In fact, Iran is overlooking the fact that across the table sit more than America alone, when it comes to the nuclear question.

    What the Iranians don’t understand is that their carrots and sticks are not big enough to change world opinion on their nuclear ambitions. There is a multitude of states that couldn’t care less about American success in Iraq but to whom Iran’s going nuclear is a red line — the nuclear issue is not a U.S.-Iran duel on Iraqi soil.

    Anyway, I think the Iraqi decision to accept the deal was a result of the tough stance of the American administration. This actually surprised Iraqis who were used to a softer American tone. Moreover, many parties in Baghdad have matured to deal pragmatically and realistically with the issue of a strategic partnership with America — America is the best ally we could possibly have. Even though Iran holds a few strings, most of the strings now are in more capable Iraqi hands backed by the mighty United States of America.

    Omar and Mohammed Fadhil are PJM’s Baghdad editors, and they blog at Iraq The Model.

  46. Interested Bystander Says:

    Rosetta,

    I tried to post last night on another thread, and the post went to moderation.

    When I went to the thread this morning, it was still in moderation.

    Now it is gone.

    What did I post that you found offensive?

    Just asking.

  47. Interested Bystander Says:

    Now my last post is in moderation also.

    I guess I’m not welcome here, and I do not know what I did wrong.

    Can you please explain?

  48. Interested Bystander Says:

    Sadr seems to be playing both sides.

    He tells his followers to fight until they start getting defeated, then tells them to stand down.

    He is not a very stable person in my opinion.

  49. Kay Says:

    After this technical interlude, the real reason for the article at AS, was a warning that was received about content and site monitoring by an anonymous commentor.

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/11/stealth-censors.html

    Rose, have you received any threats like this? I find it appalling that these self-appointed trolls can throw these jabs out there for anyone with opposing views and feel justified in their over-inflated self-importance!

    I have a problem with websites and blogs promoting legalization of marijuana, should I call the FBI, DEA and ATF? Should I report to these agencies everytime I read someone has just fired up a fat one? Should I send the webmasters thinly veiled threats to their constitutional right to free speech? Or call them hatemongers and racists if they don’t agree with my view of the world?

    What’s next? Will this same self-serving, over-indulged juvenile with a computer start reporting sites that advertise guns because they make him nervous? Does he think objects are the cause of crimes and not people? Give us all a break! Live in the real world, pay real bills, raise a real family and take on real responsibility!

    These agencies have better things to do than answer email complaints about personal blogs and legitimate websites doing legal commercial trade.

  50. Interested Bystander Says:

    Kay,

    The problem is that they are accomplishing what they want.

    It is unbelievable to me that people can not agree to disagree, and move on.

    But you are right, these agencies should not have to deal with this day in and day out.

    They have allowed this to get to where it is now.

    They would have been better served to tell the people that if they do not like the site, don’t visit.

  51. Interested Bystander Says:

    More moderation, geesh, I guess I’ll go elsewhere.

    I like reading the comments here.

    Nice blog Rosetta.

  52. Tenacity Says:

    Dr et al,
    There are some here and elsewhere that are well read and seemingly intelligent that don’t have a lick of common sense.

  53. jjones35811 Says:

    Tenacity,
    What’s your point?

  54. drsharonschuetz Says:

    Tenacity Says:

    November 19, 2008 at 11:40 pm
    Dr et al,
    There are some here and elsewhere that are well read and seemingly intelligent that don’t have a lick of common sense.

    =================

    True, but let’s not start naming names.

  55. sliderblaze Says:

    jj, that was the point…lol :)~

  56. Tenacity Says:

    There was an earlier discussion about why the good Dr. enjoyed this site as well as MS. Being well read and intelligent seem to be important. I was just saying that this site is preferred by me due to the presence of some common sense.

  57. sliderblaze Says:

    common sense and a ration L that gets past ones own selfishness and short term prospective of life

  58. sliderblaze Says:

    IMHO
    of course

  59. Tenacity Says:

    drsharonschuetz Says:

    November 19, 2008 at 11:46 pm

    True, but let’s not start naming names.

    —————–
    Please don’t….Rosetta will get on my case. She’s like my late mom…”now why can’t ya’ll just get along?”

  60. sliderblaze Says:

    dinner, bblrz

  61. jjones35811 Says:

    yeah, I got it… I just was pointing out that it was not news at all, and that the same holds true everywhere and was not going to change any time soon. Ok, I’m a bit of a cynic…

  62. Tenacity Says:

    Slider,
    There you go singing out of my songbook again.

  63. ddlew Says:

    Ok that is strange. I have been trying to get to this thread for almost an hour now. Everytime I clicked the comments box, a gay, latino movie cover popped up on my screen.

    Did anyone else see it?

    Rosettasister
    Please delete my last comment at the bottom of the previous thread.

  64. Tenacity Says:

    jjones35811 Says:

    November 19, 2008 at 11:52 pm
    the same holds true everywhere
    —————
    If that were the case, we wouldn’t be stuck with a Marxist as POTUS elect.

    Common sense in America today, at least amongst those that voted, is on vacation.

  65. Kay Says:

    jjones35811 Says:

    If somebody REALLY wants into your system they may be able to find a way. Not to be alarming, the likelyhood of anyone doing so is extremely minimal and there really would be no reason to do so. It would be a lot of effort for very minimal gain.

    >>> Are you saying they want my recipe for sushi rice or the pictures of my family vacay, jjones? 😉

  66. Tenacity Says:

    ddlew,
    You must have been enjoying the movie if you watched it for an hour.

  67. ddlew Says:

    Lol!

    No I didn’t watch the movie, it was just a picture of a video cover.

  68. Tenacity Says:

    ddlew Says:

    November 20, 2008 at 12:00 am
    Lol!

    No I didn’t watch the movie, it was just a picture of a video cover.
    ————–
    sshwoo…thank God…you had me worried.

  69. jjones35811 Says:

    Tenacity,
    heh.. I was trying to make the point that the world was loaded with people with no common sense and/or intelligence and that it wasn’t going to change. I guess we’re on the same page here…

  70. Tenacity Says:

    Hey…did anyone check out the NLP hypnosis accusations toward BO and if so, what do you think?

  71. jjones35811 Says:

    Kay,
    Yeah, that secrete sushi recipe might be sold on the internet for big bucks ! 😉

  72. sliderblaze Says:

    tenacity, i admit, i broke in to your house last week and stole it, my bad

  73. Tenacity Says:

    jj,
    I’m just glad to find a good number here that seem to have some common sense. Yes, we agree.

  74. jjones35811 Says:

    tenacity,
    I got into it about 3 sentances. I found it about as credible as secret recordings of MO and mysterious Imams being smuggled to england

  75. Tenacity Says:

    Slider,
    You can keep it, I have another one. Enjoy! Next time let me know and we can do a duet.

  76. rosettasister Says:

    Interested Bystander Says:
    November 19, 2008 at 11:39 pm

    More moderation, geesh, I guess I’ll go elsewhere.

    I like reading the comments here.

    Nice blog Rosetta.

    —————————

    IB

    I inadverdently deleted the first comment you left here.

    I am truly sorry.

    That’s why your recent comments didn’t post right away.

    Anyway, you should be able to post at will now.

    Although these guys and gals will tell you that is not always the case.

    Sometimes I have to moderate my own comments! LOL!

  77. sliderblaze Says:

    Fox News:

    U.S.: Senior Iranian Commando Arrested in Iraq

    your typical obama support would react;

    Omg, i cant believe they are arresting old people….

  78. Tenacity Says:

    jj,
    I thought it suspicious, but I read through the whole thing. They demonstrate quite a bit of detail. True or not, it was fascinating.

  79. jjones35811 Says:

    slider,
    and of course, they will not allow any type of questioning of him because he might find it offensive because they questioners might be cristian or even worse… jewish !

  80. Interested Bystander Says:

    Thanks Rosetta,

    I think you answered my questions about the API tape anyway.

    Hey All,

    You all have a very lively and informative discussions of this issues.

    Very good reading.

  81. sliderblaze Says:

    or be mad that he might not have all the comforts of home….lol

  82. jjones35811 Says:

    Slider,
    It truly does scare the cr4p out of me that these are the guys in charge now…

  83. Kay Says:

    Tenacity Says:

    November 20, 2008 at 12:04 am
    Hey…did anyone check out the NLP hypnosis accusations toward BO and if so, what do you think?

    >>>I read this about a month ago. Interesting theory, but could be applied to anyone with persuasive speech pattens.

    What about Richard Simmons? Or Tony Robbins? Zig Ziglar? They all motivate people in different ways but only if they are willing to be motivated by the speaker.

    Me, personally, not motivated! Personal motto: Why do today what I can put off until tomorrow….. (that’s why my pool still isn’t covered and it’s 20 degrees outside! lol)

  84. Tenacity Says:

    I say we bring the senior Persian Commando to the States for trial.

    OOOOOOOOO…BAAAAHHHHH…MUUUUUHHHHH

  85. Interested Bystander Says:

    Rosetta,

    No apology necessary.

    Thanks for allowing me to be a part of your blog.

  86. jjones35811 Says:

    I’m seriously considering putting up a flag pole in my yard and flying the flag upside down for 4 years…not that it will accomplish anything, but i really believe we are a country in true distress

  87. sliderblaze Says:

    JJ, texans have been doing that for about a year now i think, cus the border issue

  88. Interested Bystander Says:

    Rosetta,

    No apology necessary.

    Thanks for allowing me to be a part of your blog.

  89. Kay Says:

    Will the Secret Service show up on your doorstep if you fly the flag upside down? Or if you fly the flag, period?!

  90. Tenacity Says:

    Kay,
    My motto is “Never put off until tomorrow that which you can forget about all together!”

    There are some similarities between good speakers and their speach pattern. The length of time of the pacing and triggers are a bit different however. Also, the absence of details (because that makes people think) with repetition of the neural patterns is alarming. Hince, people can read OB speaches and say it doesn’t say anything but they were impressed when they heard him.

  91. jjones35811 Says:

    I hate to be so melodramatic about it, but D4MMIT, we just elected a socialist as president. WTF!?

  92. sliderblaze Says:

    jj, no WE didnt…..the ill informed did

  93. Interested Bystander Says:

    Kay,

    I sure hope not. I fly the Red, White and Blue, and a POW/MIA flag proudly in my front yard.

    Right side up of course.

  94. sliderblaze Says:

    “not my president”

    i’m bringing it back

  95. jjones35811 Says:

    slider,
    unfortunately I have to say the collective WE because he did win the majority.

  96. rosettasister Says:

    Interested Bystander Says:
    November 20, 2008 at 12:25 am

    Rosetta,

    No apology necessary.

    Thanks for allowing me to be a part of your blog.

    ———————

    Oh good! I was afraid I’d missed you again!

    Actually these guys and gals get along just fine without me.

    They just need for me to publish a new post now and then.

    And I am happy to oblige!

    When I do drop by I am enjoying reading what others write.

  97. Tenacity Says:

    jj,
    Upside down may disgrace the Flag and you might have a Marine or 2 on your doorstep. Half mast would make a statement.

  98. Kay Says:

    Did we lose ddlew to the video cover again?!

    I heard George W. rededicated the Museum of American History today after 2 years of extensive renovations (85million bucks worth!) The museum reopens on Friday. This was one of our family’s favorites when we would take road trips to DC on a Sat or Sun. If it was sunny, we would go to the National Zoo, if it was raining we would go to the dead zoo (Museum of Natural History! or any other museum the kids wanted that day)

    I can’t wait to see the renovations!

  99. sliderblaze Says:

    lol
    http://www.spectator.org/blog/2008/11/19/al-franken-is-challenging-this

    say it aint so Al, please tell me….

  100. Kay Says:

    sliderblaze Says:

    November 20, 2008 at 12:29 am

    “not my president”

    i’m bringing it back

    >>>Bringing what back? Sexy?! hahahahaha I thought JT already did!

  101. jjones35811 Says:

    Tenacity
    I don’t think a marine or two would scare me much considering I’m a former marine myself. half mast is reserved for honoring someone important who has recently passed away, upside down signifies distress

  102. Interested Bystander Says:

    jj,

    Don’t be so down. If we got through Jimmy Carter as President, we’ll get through Obama.

    Look at it this way, the Republicans can regroup, and get back to the conservative policies that helped win in 1994.

    I thought McCain was to “central”, but I did vote for him because he was better than Obama. I really thought Rudy would have been a better choice as the Republican Candidate.

    One of the problems the Republicans had was that they allowed spending to go hog wild. There was a surplus in 2000 when Bush took office, and the Republicans should have built upon that.

    I understand that 9-11 had a big effect on the budget, and deficit, but even at that, spending was not held in check.

    With that said, I also understand that the Democrats have been in charge of both Houses the last two years, and this is when all of this “bad economy” talk started.

    I tend to think they sabatoged Bush, and all Republicans with their legislation.

    Keep your head up though jj, we’ll get through this.

  103. sliderblaze Says:

    jjones35811 Says:
    November 20, 2008 at 12:36 am

    Tenacity
    I don’t think a marine or two would scare me much considering I’m a former marine myself. half mast is reserved for honoring someone important who has recently passed away, upside down signifies distress

    —————————————————

    you mean like lady liberty?

  104. Tenacity Says:

    Kay,
    I haven’t been to the Mall since Stand In The Gap. My family has been bugging me to take them. I was planning on going next year. If BO is there, I don’t know if I can stomach even seeing the White House. I do have a friend that will be there with Reuters.

  105. Kay Says:

    Oh, my! Comments are being posted at the old site for tapes! It is back up for now.

  106. jjones35811 Says:

    IB,
    I’m not really down, I’m more shocked than anything. I didn’t realize the ignorance and apathy of the american public had become this bad.

  107. sliderblaze Says:

    BYSTANDER i agree, consider this

    they created the low income/rediculous housing rules.
    pegged at the poor who could barely afford the houses they were put in to begin with

    speculators drove up gas prices for the last year to an inflated/false price ? with no intent on drilling for more and who does that affect the most the lower income households

    recipe for an economic crash, a generated economic crash, i say generated cus come on, it’s common sense what i just wrote you cant sustain both of those realities at the same time

  108. Tenacity Says:

    jj,
    Semper Fi! Distress is accurate. I was referring to the death of our Republic.

  109. jjones35811 Says:

    Tenacity,
    Ah… I see your point… I wouldn’t call it dead yet….severely wounded is more like it

  110. Tenacity Says:

    Holy Cow!!!! The Obama Supporter letter is posted again plus a new one and Korir named the sender as Badger Hoofman. I saw a post from Ldog.
    Wordpress turned him back on….bazzar.

  111. sliderblaze Says:

    Ok, all i have to say, with no regards to the tape

    i am happy to see api back on the original site, and take that as a poke in the eye at sage. What really has me laughing is that he forgives them and blesses them. sage, from what she said about the quoting of scripture makes her sick, well, may you throw up ‘o plenty

  112. Kay Says:

    Love this … from WND November 12, 2008 Liberals Clinically Mad….

    The roots of liberalism – and its associated madness – can be clearly identified by understanding how children develop from infancy to adulthood and how distorted development produces the irrational beliefs of the liberal mind,” he says. “When the modern liberal mind whines about imaginary victims, rages against imaginary villains and seeks above all else to run the lives of persons competent to run their own lives, the neurosis of the liberal mind becomes painfully obvious.”
    Eminent doctor makes case leftist ideology is a mental disorder

    Oh, My, Dr.! You’ll hurt their feelings talking like that!

  113. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Interested Bystander

    We also had more than our fair share of natural disasters these last few years… Fema has had to pay out a lot to help families get back on their feet…

    I do agree with McCain, until we can get back on stable ground with the economy we need to freeze all spending except for defence, SS etc

  114. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I like the WND daily article from Reb Bradley that basically asserts that liberals are just unruly children that have never grown up!

  115. Tenacity Says:

    Strange…now the OB Supporter letter says “Diana, Hope & Stacy.” Before, I was certain it said Cloud, not Hope.

  116. jjones35811 Says:

    Kay,
    Ok, that’s funny. Finally a doctor attempts to prove what we ( the informed people ) have known all along 🙂

  117. Interested Bystander Says:

    slider,

    I totally agree.

    Throw in the MSM putting out daily how bad the economy was/is, since last year around now, and pounding it in to our heads, and you are bound to get to people eventually.

    Heck, by the definition of recession, we still have to have a negative economic growth for the fourth quarter of this year.

    I know times are tough, but gas is coming down due to conserving (I paid $1.71 a gallon today), the unemployment rate is around 6% (it was 10% in 1980/81), inflation isn’t as bad as it could be, and we’ll have to wait and see how spending is this Christmas Season.

    I know we won’t be spending as much this year, but I’ll wait and see what others are doing.

    I do know that last weekend I took my wife to Texas Roadhouse (prime rib oooooooooooooh), and there was plenty of traffic out, the Super Target looked pretty busy, and the restaurant was also pretty busy.

    Just saying that the media had something to do with the negative feelings in the country.

    You think they wanted Obama to win? ……..sarcasm

  118. sliderblaze Says:

    “the api is in the wordpress”

  119. jjones35811 Says:

    heh,
    I guess I’m still “banned” there. I tried to post and couldn’t

  120. Tenacity Says:

    Stacy,
    If you didn’t see the OB Supporter letter before, go take a look. You know…”The Monkey Is In The Rowboat”

  121. sliderblaze Says:

    im banned as well, wondering if someone can put in a good word for me 😉

  122. jjones35811 Says:

    What the heck does that mean anyway?

  123. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    jjones35811

    I went into moderation at API; then it posted about 5 minutes later……

  124. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Unfortunately the media has WAY too much infuence on what people think. In fact I remember seeing a survey a while back on Fox News that had asked people how they were doing finanacially and 80% of people said they were doing fine. Other side of the coin, close to 80% were worried that their neighbors were probably struggling! Talk about a disconnect from reality.

  125. rosettasister Says:

    I hope Cyndi sees this

    Cyndi

    I’ve added some audio files above

    Rose

  126. sliderblaze Says:

    jj, look up boat monkey in the urban dictionary

  127. jjones35811 Says:

    I don’t know why I was banned, other than I kept asking politely for proof of any of his claims…

  128. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Wow – I thought I was banned but I sent a “test” message and it went into moderation. What happens when you are banned – do your messages just go into cyberspace?

  129. Kay Says:

    jjones, urban dictionary the meaning… i’m not one to type that stuff out in public! 😉

  130. sliderblaze Says:

    it gets shot out into the stratusphere

  131. Cyndi Says:

    A Wider Conspiracy: 17 Lawsuits Challenging Obama’s Eligibility
    Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2008 6:50:07 PM by Red Steel

    By Douglas J. Hagmann, Director HomelandSecurityUS.com

    Currently, there are 17 lawsuits in 12 states that are challenging the eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama to become the next President of the United States based, in part, on the true circumstances of his birth. These circumstances include his actual place of birth as well as his status as a naturalized citizen. The latest lawsuit was filed by Alan Keyes, a Presidential candidate in the 2008 election . Documents in PDF format available at this link.

    Nonetheless, the corporate media, including the majority of right-wing conservative talk show hosts, continue to dismiss this issue as irrelevant or give this matter only cursory lip service to satisfy the minority of Americans who still care about the rule of law. From Blog commentators to officials elected to uphold and protect the rule of law, the prevailing opinion appears to be that Obama’s eligibility is not a legitimate issue for rational people. The issue represents nothing more than sour political grapes, a red herring, or a distraction from the larger issues.

    The simple fact that this entire controversy could be forever put to rest by Obama simply providing a legitimate copy of his true birth certificate. Instead, he has chosen to fight such a release at every turn, using, among others, an attorney associated with the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR).

    Deeper research and investigation into this matter finds that the staging for the defense of the eligibility question appears to have been addressed by a contingent of lawmakers earlier this year in the form of Congressional Resolution 511, a resolution co-sponsored by Obama himself.

    Under the guise of putting to rest any objection to Senator John McCain’s eligibility to become our nation’s President because he was born outside of the U.S., the media fell all over themselves by as they praised Obama’s sense of fair play as illustrated by such headlines and articles as: Obama Backs Law That Aids McCain, (Washington Post, March 1, 2008) and Clinton, Obama Agree: McCain’s a “Natural Born Citizen” (Wall Street Journal, April 11, 2008)

    Closer scrutiny of this resolution, however, finds that the resolution actually was expanded far beyond what was necessary to merely apply to Senator McCain: it was expanded to include naturalized citizens, which ironically was the “cause of death” for this resolution.

    Indeed, there is a much larger (dare I say) conspiracy afoot, one that threatens the security of the United States as much as al Qaeda and all of our foreign enemies combined. It is the enemy from within.

    Stay tuned, this is only the “introduction.”

    Hmmm HOMELAND SECURITY!!!!

  132. drsharonschuetz Says:

    Mine made it through. Amazing.

  133. sliderblaze Says:

    Kay, you can always copy and paste it, so you dont get your hands filthy lol

  134. Cyndi Says:

    sry forgot to post link
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2134987/posts

  135. Interested Bystander Says:

    Cindy,

    I agree about the natural disasters and such, and we could debate as to who is responsible for rebuilding, but for one thing “pork” spending rose unbelievably under Bush.

    I also agree with freezing spending until such a time that we balance the budget.

    It amazes me that if you want to increase spending by 6 percent, and only 4 percent is passed, it is called a 2 percent cut in spending.

    The Government should have to pay it’s bills like we do. Not with credit. Cut stuff out, until the budget is balanced.

    I’d start with foriegn aid, then go to other “welfare” programs (which is what I would classify foriegn aid).

    It is my opinion that the Government is responsible for 4 things.

    1. National Security
    2. National Currency
    3. Post Office
    4. Foriegn Relations

    All else should be left to the states.

  136. jjones35811 Says:

    OK,
    I looked it up… I need to go fishing more !

  137. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    that “Other” blog might want to think twice…Wordpress already knows they are a bunch of childish tattletales…… Since they let API back…. it proves it was just vandictive child-play

  138. jjones35811 Says:

    IB,
    cut the post office from you list and I agree

  139. Kay Says:

    I just found it best not to question the chief, but to argue the documented facts with the Obamunists. And provide links I’m sure they never went to or read. It kept me from being banned. Or put in moderation. And it kept the synapses firing. I hear it’s good to exercise the brain to keep Alzheimer’s away! Crossword puzzles, word searches, outwitting Obots….

    Though I did post a questionable link about the chief’s past dealings….. it went through, but I don’t know if anyone read it.

  140. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Cyndi – good thing it was just a resolution…will be easy to over ride it with the Constitution. I know, I know – Obama has no respect for the Constitution…but there are a lot of other Americans who still do.

    What has my brain spinning is that if Obama and McCain are proven ineligible, what then? The Constitution originally called for electors to vote on the eligible candidates and the one with the most votes was President and the next most, was VP. Would they just do that with the remaining candidates on the tickets? ie Biden, Palen, Keyes, Nader (oh, I just threw up a little in my mouth – sorry). Or do we go through another election with a new lot of candidates? Anyway, whatever happens, maybe the citizens of this country will wake up and start paying attention again.

  141. jjones35811 Says:

    Kay,
    “Not question the cheif”?…. Ok, I’VE DISCOVERED THE SECRET TO NUCLEAR FISSION !
    of course I will not post any documentation or proof of this… just take my word for it

  142. Interested Bystander Says:

    jj,

    The Post Office has been privatized so much that it isn’t in the Government hands now anyway.

    All the Feds do is allow increases in stamp costs.

  143. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Cyndi,
    pork bellys should be made obsolete, if it isn’t good enough to stand alone then it shouldn’t be brought to the house and senate for a vote.

    BUT, sadly, issues like the amber alert….. was added to packet vote

  144. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Bystander – I think you are right on with that. I say – bring on the line item veto, too!!

  145. Kay Says:

    jjones35811 Says:

    November 20, 2008 at 1:03 am
    OK,
    I looked it up… I need to go fishing more !

    >>>>Bwahahahahaha…

  146. Kay Says:

    jjones35811 Says:

    November 20, 2008 at 1:09 am
    Kay,
    “Not question the cheif”?…. Ok, I’VE DISCOVERED THE SECRET TO NUCLEAR FISSION !
    of course I will not post any documentation or proof of this… just take my word for it

    >>>I just meant that I wasn’t counting on hearing any tapes anyway or seeing any proof from some Imam’s grandson.

    Now hand over the secret of nuclear(or is that nucular?) fission!(Are you talking about fishing again?!)

  147. Interested Bystander Says:

    thinning,

    (Yes I saw that, and you seemed to like it), I agree with a line item veto, then send it back to be voted on.

    I also agreed with McCain, to “Make those people who submit this pork spending famous”. This would be a great tool for the President to have.

  148. jjones35811 Says:

    IB,
    True, but it still should not be the government’s resposibility
    so MY list:
    1) National security foriegn and domestic
    2) regulate currency
    3) treaties and foriegn relations
    THAT’S IT !
    Everything else should be controlled by the states

  149. Interested Bystander Says:

    I see Korir is saying no posting about the tape.

    Isn’t that funny, it’s the only thing people go to his blog to hear, and he won’t post about it, or release it.

    I once called him a coward for not standing by his word that the tape would be heard BEFORE the election, and Korir replied that there would be no posting about the tape until it aired.

    Then low and behold the next day, there’s a post about the tape.

    I thought he was supposed to be in Canada.

    What happened with that part of the “story”?

  150. Cyndi Says:

    I think this entire year has been a great wake up for America and I am sure there is much more to come. There needs to be someone responsible for looking into eligibility of candidates before being placed on the ballot someone that is impartial (if that could ever happen) and alot of this mess could have been tended to before the fact rather than go through all of this hog whaller.

  151. jjones35811 Says:

    Kay,
    Well, the fission is one thing… I think we’ll see that before we see those MO tapes
    the fishing on the other hand was in reference to the “boat monkey” thing 😉

  152. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Bystander – Thanks for remembering 😉

    I like that McCain idea – let’s give the president a hatchet, a scalpel AND a megaphone!

  153. ldog70 Says:

    Hi all!!

    Looks like API is down again. I tried to go to the tripod site and got NOTHING!!!!!!!!

  154. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    drsharonschuetz

    I see you are posting here, at API and at MS
    interesting

  155. jjones35811 Says:

    ldog
    API wordpress seems to be up now

  156. ldog70 Says:

    Can somebody tell me how to change this avatar thing??

    Mine is soooooooooooo bland.

    Plus, i’m a guy i DON’T LIKE PURPLE!!!!!!!!!

  157. jjones35811 Says:

    Cindy,
    as do I…Is there a problem with that?

  158. kayart Says:

    ldog70 Says:

    November 20, 2008 at 1:20 am
    Hi all!!

    Looks like API is down again. I tried to go to the tripod site and got NOTHING!!!!!!!!

    >>>API is back at wordpress, ldog.

  159. Troy Says:

    Well now Larry Sinclair’s site is all screwed up too

  160. kayart Says:

    Hi, Rose… this is my WordPress log in name! I’m just “kay” when I don’t log in… same email.

  161. Interested Bystander Says:

    Cyndi,

    I agree.

    A candidate should have to submit a “resume” to the voters that should include:

    1. Birth Certificate
    2. Citizenship Eligibility
    3. Education (along with paperwork)
    4. Prior Employment
    5. Background Check
    6. Drug Test

    Anyone else have any suggestions?

  162. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    jjones
    naw not with you,…. you just seem to like interesting conversation
    guess after everything I am a little hesitant to trust and now look too closely at things

  163. drsharonschuetz Says:

    justanamericancindy4 Says:

    November 20, 2008 at 1:20 am
    drsharonschuetz

    I see you are posting here, at API and at MS
    interesting

    ==========================

    I sure am. If you look at my avatar, you will se that it’s a picture of me. That is my name. Dr. Sharon Schuetz. I am not hiding. I am up front about what I’m saying and who I am. Wouldn’t it be refreshing if everyone were more like that.

  164. Cyndi Says:

    so what is the newest API link anyone? I do like to go over there and see what has been posted.

  165. Interested Bystander Says:

    Idog,

    You have to go to the wordpress log in page, and go to your profile.

    You should find an avatar area there.

    Make sure you already have what you want saved on your computer.

  166. Kay Says:

    jjones35811 Says:

    November 20, 2008 at 1:19 am
    Kay,
    Well, the fission is one thing… I think we’ll see that before we see those MO tapes
    the fishing on the other hand was in reference to the “boat monkey” thing

    >>>>>I’m not that old and slow, jj! lol I got it the first time! Just seeing if you were paying attention!

  167. Ksinde. Says:

    hi all 🙂

  168. jjones35811 Says:

    Cindy,
    Here’s my take on things if you’re interested;
    1) there is not tape or Imam ( at least it has not been proven)
    2) there are people that don’t like Korir who want to see him crash and burn. And did there danmdest to cause this. It is a relative few people who have a hard on for Korir. they are not Obots, they just think Korir is a scam artist
    3) MS posters did not cause it or even condone hacking/flooding his site
    4) korir violated the TOS of wordpress ( and subsiquently tripod somehow)
    5) this process will keep repeating until the “tapes” are released

  169. Cyndi Says:

    JJ would you please tell me the newest link to API?

  170. drsharonschuetz Says:

    Cyndi…

    http://africanpress.wordpress.com/

  171. Ksinde. Says:

    http://africanpress.wordpress.com

  172. Cyndi Says:

    ty kindly

  173. ddlew Says:

    Kay Says:
    November 20, 2008 at 12:32 am

    Did we lose ddlew to the video cover again?!

    —————————————–

    Nope. I am back!

    Am I the only one that was redirected to that HORRIBLE IMAGE?

  174. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    jjones35811

    I never seen proof they existed or didn’t exist

    I just enjoyed the people while this played out, just wanted to see it to the end..

    I talked to him once….. I have a magic jack phone that I gave him the number to….and the email is throw away…

  175. Ksinde. Says:

    ddlew, i didn’t have that problem. I did have a problem with the whole page going blank, it went on for about 10-15 minutes. That was a few hours ago.

  176. jjones35811 Says:

    cindy,
    Yeah, I have no idea why I am so hooked on this stupid saga… I keep comming back though… I still can’t post on API though 😦

  177. ddlew Says:

    It’s obvious that Word\Press knows that MS is responsible for the API shut down. Will there be action taken against them by WP?

  178. jjones35811 Says:

    dd…
    I don’t really think they were directly involved… I think they may have been happy about it, but not involved

  179. Kay Says:

    drsharonschuetz Says:

    November 20, 2008 at 1:26 am
    justanamericancindy4 Says:

    November 20, 2008 at 1:20 am
    drsharonschuetz

    I see you are posting here, at API and at MS
    interesting

    ==========================

    I sure am. If you look at my avatar, you will se that it’s a picture of me. That is my name. Dr. Sharon Schuetz. I am not hiding. I am up front about what I’m saying and who I am. Wouldn’t it be refreshing if everyone were more like that.

    >>>>>

    In a perfect world, Dr. we would all feel comfortable being ourselves, but here we sit, in front of our computer screens, communicating with others freely without needing to know who the others are because it is safer for us to remain anonymous. We are braver this way; not so politically correct and not afraid to be called names for our beliefs, whereas, in public, we face closer scrutiny and the possibility of embarrassment for speaking our true feelings and ideals because they do not conform to the current political climate.

    I have gone so far as to remove all traces of any political statements from my vehicle because of the atmosphere in surrounding towns. I do not want my tag traced a la Joe the Plumber. I don’t need my background checked, thank you very much. I feel I was more extensively vetted before my employment with the federal government 20 years ago than the President elect, and I am not in the majority who found him capable of the job at hand, but I didn’t get to make the rules, I only get to follow them. And I don’t like the idea of more rules to restrict the law abiding while the law breakers are free to carry on as usual without consequence in the name of social justice.

    My 2cents worth….

  180. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    ddlew

    Most MS followers just went to API and pesterd us and went on and on about asking for the tapes…… But I would say there were about 6 that went rogue and cloned and tampered with the site….. I believe they are also the ones that created the mirror sites of API

  181. ldog70 Says:

    Interested Bystander Says:

    November 20, 2008 at 1:27 am

    Thanks, i got that part. I even have the picture i want to use. When i click on the upload image my picture comes up.

    However, once i have cropped the part i want to use, wordpress will not allow my cursor to click the crop image button.

    I’m just KINDA STUCK THERE!!!!!!!

    Anybody know what i need to do from this point to change this avatar thing??

  182. jjones35811 Says:

    Cindy,
    I agree, it was a small group , I think I know one at least-not associated with MS. I have no evidence or proof so I won’t name names.

  183. Kay Says:

    I read some of the comments at MS and found it unbelievably sad that so many were involved in digging dirt on the API site. In the big, messy picture of the 2008 election, did it really matter that much to them? Why choose that particular blog? There are plenty out there with no redeeming qualities, yet they exist for their own sakes!

    I just don’t get why it matters so much to these few to keep picking at this particular scab! If it’s the hoax they believe, it will die a natural death.

    Political activism is one thing, but holy cow! They’ve gnawed this bone clean! And it’s no longer political, it’s personal.

  184. Tenacity Says:

    Ldog,
    Before you posted your announcement here that API (tripod) was down, I saw your post at the API (wordpress) site. What’s your game?

  185. drsharonschuetz Says:

    Kay…I understand and agree with your sentiments. I, however, don’t care. If I am doing anything wrong, illegal, or worthy of investigation, using a butterfly avatar and calling myself a goofy name isn’t really going to hide me, now is it? Not from someone as all powerful as OBAMA and his RADICAL LEFT. We can ping ip address and play cops and robbers all day long, but when it is real you can’t stop it and neither can I.

  186. Interested Bystander Says:

    Ldog,

    Try cropping the picture and save it on your computer before you upload it.

    That should work.

  187. jjones35811 Says:

    Kay,
    Yeah, they really don’t like him and believe he is running some sort of scam. Truthfullly, I haven’t seen the scam yet. I haven’t heard the tape yet either 🙂

  188. Tenacity Says:

    Kay,
    Trust none of what you hear and only half of what you see.

  189. Ksinde. Says:

    In case anyone is interested Leo will be on air tonight to discuss the new development in the case. got this from his site:

    [UPDATE]:Leo C. Donofrio will be doing two radio interviews tonight. Those will be the last contact he has with the press until after the case is finally resolved by the US Supreme Court. Thanks to all for the support.

    At 9:00 PM EST, Leo will do a brief radio interview with Bob Vernon for Honest American News. Please visit the Plains Radio Network for an archive of previous interviews with Leo.

    At 10:00 PM EST, Leo will be interviewed on Overnight AM with Lan Lamphere where you can hear a rebroadcast of Leo’s two hour interview from Nov. 18.

    If you want the links to the stations you can goto his site:

    http://www.blogtext.org/naturalborncitizen/

  190. Kay Says:

    Tenacity Says:

    November 20, 2008 at 1:57 am
    Ldog,
    Before you posted your announcement here that API (tripod) was down, I saw your post at the API (wordpress) site. What’s your game?

    >>>

    Wrong site for games, Ldog. This is the nice site. You won’t find any reason to report TOS violations.

  191. ddlew Says:

    justanamericancindy4 Says:
    November 20, 2008 at 1:46 am

    ddlew

    Most MS followers just went to API and pesterd us and went on and on about asking for the tapes…… But I would say there were about 6 that went rogue and cloned and tampered with the site….. I believe they are also the ones that created the mirror sites of API

    ————————-

    I see.

    Thanks for the input.

  192. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    creating a stir in some small worlds??

    Hmmm when you talked to folks for a few weeks just to find out they were just using you,….. When you feel betrayed is does create a stir in small worlds.

    Hate it when people talk one way to your face and totally different behind your back

  193. Kay Says:

    Tenacity Says:

    November 20, 2008 at 2:00 am
    Kay,
    Trust none of what you hear and only half of what you see.

    >>>> Ain’t that the truth! And I outgrew that when I hit 35 anyway! (Yeah, late bloomer…. naive and too trusting!) Now I question everything and everyone… but you just have to trust your gut feelings sometimes and I have this instinctual feeling to get my kids out of the country before they turn 18! This strong feeling of a draft coming hasn’t left me for the last month. A military draft is one thing, but a National Service draft is something entirely different and never attempted here. I personally don’t want my kids sent to Rwanda with the Peace Corp or to inner city Detroit or Baltimore or Philadelphia unarmed.

  194. ddlew Says:

    jjones35811 Says:
    November 20, 2008 at 1:48 am

    Cindy,
    I agree, it was a small group , I think I know one at least-not associated with MS. I have no evidence or proof so I won’t name names.
    ——————————————————————

    Awe come on soup nazi, NAME NAMES!

    🙂

  195. Tenacity Says:

    Everyone and Ldog,
    I owe Ldog an apology. API reposted the old posts from the 16th. I made the mistake of seeing it as today. My humble apology to Ldog.

  196. jjones35811 Says:

    dd
    NO SOUP FOR YOU !!!

  197. Tenacity Says:

    Kay,
    I posed this question earlier today: How far do we allow the Marxists to take this country before we take a hard stand? Waiting just a little too long may be fatal. Others here said we need to give the BO regime a chance. I view BO as a fraud and not eligible to serve. Thus he is not my president. If he wants any of my kids in his civilian army…I will put my life on the line.

  198. Cyndi Says:

    I think I really like this guy! He stands up for his beliefs and I admire him for that. The video starts out kinda funky but boy does he cut loose after that.

  199. Ksinde. Says:

    the radio is talking about api

  200. Ksinde. Says:

    http://www.plainsradio.com/chat.html

    this is the site

  201. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Ksinde

    where…can you give a link?

  202. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Listening to the radio……
    cool!

  203. ddlew Says:

    Ksinde. Says:
    November 20, 2008 at 2:37 am

    the radio is talking about api

    ——————————————–

    What document is he talking about???

  204. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    ddlew

    I think it is the birth document

  205. ldog70 Says:

    Tenacity Says:

    November 20, 2008 at 1:57 am
    Ldog,
    Before you posted your announcement here that API (tripod) was down, I saw your post at the API (wordpress) site. What’s your game?

    _____________________________________

    No games. Somebody posted here just after i posted that tripod site was down about the wordpress site.

    Sorry for any confusion. I FIXED MY AVATAR THOUGH!!! This is my son.

    Pain in the a$$ sometimes, but wouldn’t trade em’ for ALL THE GOLD IN THE WORLD.

  206. Ksinde. Says:

    radio host started talking about Kori and my dam sound cut off. did anyone here what he said…the radio guy called the fbi about a letter his researchers found. radio guy said korir is good i think, but then radio cut off

  207. ldog70 Says:

    Is this Ed Hall on the radio with Leo??

    You all do know this Ed guy is the one who tried to sue Berg because he didn’t give him the tape so Ed could make MONEY off of it??

    This guy Hall is a SLIME!!!!!!!

  208. Tenacity Says:

    I’m listening to Donofrio on Patriot Brigade. I don’t know if its a re-run of last night or fresh tonight. Donofrio was supposed to be on at 10 EST.

  209. Ksinde. Says:

    Leo will be on Lan tonight at 10. it will be his last interview for a while

  210. igaveup Says:

    Found this blog through API.

    I don’t understand what Korir is doing?

    Are we supposed to just ignore his claims about a “tape” and the “Iman”, but still go to his site for “news”?

  211. ldog70 Says:

    Ksinde,

    Leo was on Lan last night. He is doing it again??

  212. Tenacity Says:

    Ldog,
    Its Ed Hail and he is a loose canon.

  213. Cyndi Says:

    whoever is speaking has some investigators looking in to something but he won’t say what it is but he says if it turns out to be true there is no way Obama could be our president. wow this is interesting

  214. Troy Says:

    If anyone is listening to the interview, can you copy the link from the screen and paste post it here please

  215. ddlew Says:

    igaveup Says:
    November 20, 2008 at 2:55 am

    Found this blog through API.

    I don’t understand what Korir is doing?

    Are we supposed to just ignore his claims about a “tape” and the “Iman”, but still go to his site for “news”?

    ———————————————————–

    It’s really best to hope the tapes and Imam are real but not to count on them being real.

    I would rather follow the court cases personally. At least those are real and public.

    🙂

  216. Tenacity Says:

    igave,
    That seems to be K’s game. I ain’t playin no more. Like RS and others here have said…I only want to hear MO’s voice.

  217. ddlew Says:

    ldog70 Says:
    November 20, 2008 at 2:55 am

    Ksinde,

    Leo was on Lan last night. He is doing it again??

    —————————————–

    Re-run

  218. Ksinde. Says:

    Yes, on lan tonight again, then that is it for a while for leo, taking break

  219. Cyndi Says:

    It was someone named Creed don’t know about spelling

  220. Troy Says:

    post radio link please

  221. ddlew Says:

    Ksinde. Says:
    November 20, 2008 at 2:58 am

    Yes, on lan tonight again, then that is it for a while for leo, taking break

    ————————————

    Hopefully he has a poker tourney to attend.

  222. Ksinde. Says:

    he just said on this radio show he just did that he will be on lan tonight, then no more for a while

  223. Tenacity Says:

    http://www.lanlamphere.com/audio/livejava.php

  224. igaveup Says:

    ddlew,

    thanks

  225. Troy Says:

    thanks

  226. Ksinde. Says:

    Lan > http://www.lanlamphere.com/audio/livejava.php

  227. Ksinde. Says:

    But Debbie Schlussel is getting ready to be on this site

    http://www.plainsradio.com/chat.html

    she is the one who broke the SSS thing

  228. Ksinde. Says:

    does ed hale have a website

  229. Ksinde. Says:

    fox news called lan about the leo case and wanted him to come on fox…he hung up on them after he told them they r playing catch up…lol

  230. Tenacity Says:

    Leo Donofrio on Lan now right after the break.
    http://www.lanlamphere.com/audio/livejava.php

  231. Troy Says:

    Ksinde. Says:

    November 20, 2008 at 3:10 am
    does ed hale have a website
    ————————————————————-
    Yes

    I am a dumpster rat.com….Lmaooo

  232. sliderblaze Says:

    lol, hale is a lil wierd but, even wierdos have a purpose

  233. Tenacity Says:

    Hmmm…Schlussel or Donofrio? Decisions, decisions.

  234. Troy Says:

    either one can be replayed later

  235. Ksinde. Says:

    it wasn’t ed hale on plains radio…. but i want to know what he said about korir…i think he (the radio host on plains) said that he had some researchers dig and found out that someone hacked korir and other sites, the redearchers found out who hacked. they got the name and where abouts, of the hacker and turned it into the FBI…he said it was a college student, maybe michigan college i think he said

  236. sliderblaze Says:

    lol, anyone over at sage lately? are they eating crow yet?

  237. Tenacity Says:

    Ksinde. Says:

    November 20, 2008 at 3:13 am
    fox news called lan about the leo case and wanted him to come on fox…he hung up on them after he told them they r playing catch up…lol

    —————–
    He also told the fox gofer he’d have to find Donofrio’s phone number himself. rotflmao! Apparently Donofrio was tickled to hear that Lan didst Fox.

  238. Troy Says:

    won’t it require a tape for them to eat humble pie

  239. sliderblaze Says:

    lol, i guess fox is eating crow right now

  240. Ksinde. Says:

    I personally think he should go on fox…any exposer is good

  241. sliderblaze Says:

    no, it’s a tape to make them eat boot straps…lol enter through the porthole end, if you know what i mean

  242. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    sliderblaze

    MS site…… grumbles, threats and childish humor

  243. sliderblaze Says:

    lol…..well, at least with the api site back up, we are back in the info or disinfo loop as it were

  244. Ksinde. Says:

    leo sounds choked up

  245. ldog70 Says:

    Anybody having trouble getting into Lan’s radio show??

    Mine will not load. As for Fox? Let em’ catch it on the internet and then report it.

    After EVERYTHING they covered up about Obama WHEN IT COULD HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE, i wouldn’t give them a scoop if they were the only station on.

  246. sliderblaze Says:

    yes he does, a man after my own heart,

    we were talking about the constitution yesterday

    i keep a copy of that and the bill of rights in my briefcase, have for the last 10 yrs

  247. Cyndi Says:

    Really good explanation of Selective Service Registration with visual of document errors.

    http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=221543

  248. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Don’t seem to be a friend of ours…
    ________________

    drsharonschuetz
    November 19, 2008 at 3:10 pm
    You know. I’ve been reading stuff from other places and all kidding aside. There are a bunch of paranoid loons on this internet. Where are the internet police when you need them?

  249. Troy Says:

    Here ya go ldog

    http://www.lanlamphere.com/audio/livejava.php

  250. ldog70 Says:

    Thanks Troy.

    I’M INNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  251. sliderblaze Says:

    i think lan is kind of a dick…..

    my kinda dude

  252. Cyndi Says:

    Wow this is sooooo interesting!!!

  253. Troy Says:

    your welcome

  254. Ksinde. Says:

    slider, r u slider77 at api blog?

  255. ldog70 Says:

    I wonder if we should email the justices URGING them to bring this infront of the whole panel of judges?

  256. sliderblaze Says:

    Ksinde

    confirmed

  257. Tenacity Says:

    Howard Dean needs to be jailed.

  258. drsharonschuetz Says:

    Cindy….Get a life. I know in your little spy thriller world you’ve never made a joke or probably never even heard of one. Well I’ve got news you can use. Not everyone in the world (including your tiny corner) walks around with a magnifying glass looking for evil. GET A LIFE. GET A GRIP.

    http://www.dictionary.com will elxpain to you what satire is. In fact, since probably can’t figure out how to get there if there’s no gossip promised at the other end, I’ll give you the info.

    sat⋅ire   /ˈsætaɪər/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [sat-ahyuhr] Show IPA Pronunciation

    –noun 1. the use of irony, sarcasm, ridicule, or the like, in exposing, denouncing, or deriding vice, folly, etc.

    If you can’t figure out what these words mean, you can cut and past to http://www.dictionary.com and look the words up.

    Of course, you have your little brown nose so far up Korir’s backside you wouldn’t recognize truth if it bit you.

  259. sliderblaze Says:

    Tenacity

    confirmed

  260. Ksinde. Says:

    slider how old r u

  261. Cyndi Says:

    I think on the Selective Service issue I remember them saying something about too many years had passed so Obama couldn’t be brought on charges however there is something on the Selective Service Site about that if you do not register you could never run for any political office. So if this turns out that the document was falsified then he could not run for any positions.

  262. Troy Says:

    I do believe Leo is an Independent…My kind of friend

  263. Ksinde. Says:

    cyndi, true it is too long, but when he forged the one that just surfaced, that is a federal crime i believe and he can be charged with it

  264. Tenacity Says:

    Ldog,
    It is going to the full panel. Then they decide (rule of 4) if it goes to a full public hearing.

  265. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    drsharonschuetz

    🙂

    So doctor like…

    careful your hostility is showing

  266. Troy Says:

    Cyndi, If Obama signed it and it’s a recent document, then he committed a felony RECENTLY

  267. sliderblaze Says:

    i’m 31

  268. Cyndi Says:

    Yes very true Ksinde, I remember that, thanks for helping to recall my memory to surface.

  269. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    drsharonschuetz

    🙂

    So doctor like…

    careful your hostility is showing

  270. Ksinde. Says:

    i think we should get together a peaceful protest on dec 5th at the supreme court to show the justices how serious we are about this

  271. ldog70 Says:

    Tenacity Says:

    November 20, 2008 at 3:44 am
    Ldog,
    It is going to the full panel. Then they decide (rule of 4) if it goes to a full public hearing.
    ____________________________________________

    Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!

    Well, that is what i meant by a PUBLIC hearing by all justices. So i guess we have to pray four of them will decide in FAVOR.

  272. Ksinde. Says:

    slider, your api avatar is that of u?

  273. sliderblaze Says:

    they one here, no, it’s of one of my drawings, the one on aoi, yes, thats me

  274. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    drsharonschuetz

    Don’t like someone watching posts?
    Reporting back?
    Don’t like being a victim instead of an attacker?
    Go talk to Cartoon Pig and Steve11, you seen to be close
    You know what they say about the people you hang out with

    btw…. I was an still am on the fence,….. always hoped there was something there but never counted on it

  275. Ksinde. Says:

    cindy,

    I noticed that the DR. and others where on both blogs. I was going to go check their posts but then i thought that as long as everyone is civil here, whats the harm?

  276. drsharonschuetz Says:

    justanamericancindy4 Says:

    November 20, 2008 at 3:46 am
    drsharonschuetz

    So doctor like…

    careful your hostility is showing

    =================

    You’re right. It’s been a very long time since I’ve felt the anger I did when I saw what I thought was probably the most petty move by what I thought was an adult, in a long time.

    I shouldn’t have gotten so angry and I do feel bad for saying the last part of what I said. I believe it’s true, however, I shouldn’t have said it.

    I’ve seen how silly some of this is, and I don’t know why it bothered me so much. But, I understand how it strokes your ego and how good it feels to have value, even if it’s based on a lie. I appologize for my angry response. It’s just so sad.

  277. Ksinde. Says:

    slider, i must say you look pretty hot on api…lol 😉

  278. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Ksinde.

    Sorry……. drsharonschuetz acted civil here, but acted different there…
    hate two face people…

    I see , many that cross post to all three….that doesn’t bug me…. they just chat there…but she was making fun of us…..

  279. hockeyfan530 Says:

    does anyone else love the discussions with esq?

    What was really annoying is using logic to convince people not to vote for Obama because of his associations. They would always say his associations do not matter. Of course the problem with that arguement was if they didn’t know the truth about the associations how could they say they don’t matter? It was soooo frustrating. Or my favorite is when they said they only cared about the issues. And knowing the truth about a man running for president of the US (that seems to have a lot of anti-american associations) isn’t important!? How can that be? LOL

  280. sliderblaze Says:

    thanks Ksinde, i do what i can lol

  281. drsharonschuetz Says:

    justanamericancindy4 Says:

    November 20, 2008 at 3:56 am
    Ksinde.

    Sorry……. drsharonschuetz acted civil here, but acted different there…
    hate two face people…

    I see , many that cross post to all three….that doesn’t bug me…. they just chat there…but she was making fun of us…..

    +++++++++++++++++++

    Cindy, what grade are you in?

    Hey, by the way, this is not the only blog on the web. Why don’t you go back over to MS and see what else I said about you. (Well, not you, Cindy, I’m talking about the smart people over here).

  282. Troy Says:

    trying to get through to ESQ is like trying to talk to a cantelope

  283. Ksinde. Says:

    cindy,

    i saw that post u r talking about. I took it as the up korir’s butt people. the ones who r total believers. not the ones who hope or wish they r real

  284. Ksinde. Says:

    troy. no it’s a cabbage i thought…get it straight

  285. Tenacity Says:

    Did I mention that one of my pet peaves are pompous preppies?

  286. Troy Says:

    vegatible, fruit, inanimate object…it’s all the same

  287. hockeyfan530 Says:

    I’m not saying it’s not frustrating to a certain degree listening to esq but it really solidifies how I feel about most Obama supporters…so to me it’s more funny than it was before the election

  288. dixieinflorida Says:

    I’ve been away so this may have already been posted

  289. Troy Says:

    are there still preppies?

  290. Tenacity Says:

    Troy,
    Have you been talking to cantelopes?

  291. sliderblaze Says:

    http://www.theonion.com/content/video/obama_win_causes_obsessive

  292. drsharonschuetz Says:

    dixie….I don’t remember where I saw the link but I saw it earlier. The one I saw was over 9 minutes long though. It was just as erroneous at 9 minutes as it was at 6 though.

  293. Cyndi Says:

    Oh please try your best not to argue. I was really loving this non-violent site…

    Troy I love cantelope…

  294. Tenacity Says:

    I enjoyed Donofrio’s last interview. Was Schlussel worth doing the replay?

  295. hockeyfan530 Says:

    how do people feel about Dec 15 turning out bad for Obama?

    I hope it does but how many things have we watched Obama squirm out of with the help of the MSM and blind faith of his believers?
    Of course i would love to see him fall to save the country and that IS the most important part of all of this. But, selfishly, i would love to hear all of the apologies from all of my friends, including my fiancee, that I was crazy and I just smeared Obama because he was a Democrat. Believe me that is not the case at all. I “smeared” Obama because he is a L-I-A-R. I wouldn’t have voted for Clinton either but I know our country would be in the hands of a woman that won’t destroy the constitution.

  296. drsharonschuetz Says:

    Dixie…Are you just getting home from work?

  297. Tenacity Says:

    Donofrio is still on by the way. Lan is talking about Fox right now.

  298. dixieinflorida Says:

    drsharonschuetz Says:
    November 20, 2008 at 4:09 am

    dixie….I don’t remember where I saw the link but I saw it earlier. The one I saw was over 9 minutes long though. It was just as erroneous at 9 minutes as it was at 6 though.
    ******************
    Yes it was long but I listened to all of it, he didn’t just mock API

  299. Troy Says:

    I generally limit my efforts to melons….mmmmm….melons, big nice plump melons

  300. Ksinde. Says:

    hockey…. people like esq get me mad… i had to deal with it before the election, now i just don’t want to have to deal with it. it drives me nutssss.

    this is HORRIBLE, i shouldn’t think this, but i sometimes hope that BO does bad and disappoints his followers.

  301. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Ksinde.

    Mad at the hubby, not having my best moments right now…

  302. Troy Says:

    Ksinde,
    don’t worry there is no money for his handouts

  303. Tenacity Says:

    Troy Says:

    November 20, 2008 at 4:06 am
    are there still preppies?

    ——————
    Oh yes. They are very closely related to elitists.

  304. Ksinde. Says:

    tena, i didn’t listen to Debbie, but the host said that she had a big announcement to make, something big. i am going to listen to it for that reason and also because the host said something about Korir but the radio cut off and i didn’t hear the whole thing.

  305. sba1872 Says:

    For anyone thinking that this is a repeat of Donofrio’s last interview on Patriot Brigade, it is not. He’s talking about what happened today. He just said, “When I hang up this phone, I’m not doing anymore interviews.”

  306. Troy Says:

    preppies before college and elitists after?

  307. Ksinde. Says:

    cindy,

    we all have these days, trust me i have a lot of those days. no worries

  308. sba1872 Says:

    Dooofrio says someone was messing with his blog today. “It looks like it’s calmed down. It looks like whoever was messing with it has now gone away.”

  309. sba1872 Says:

    The man’s name is Donofrio, not “Dooofrio”, but he’s sure as hell dooooing a good job, sticking up for the Constitution.

  310. Ksinde. Says:

    troy,

    oh i know there is no money and the followers will want him to ante up.

  311. Cyndi Says:

    Got to thinking about the word erroneous….
    erroneous – containing or characterized by error; “erroneous conclusions”
    incorrect, wrong – not correct; not in conformity with fact or truth; “an incorrect calculation”; “the report in the paper is wrong”; “your information is wrong”; “the clock showed the wrong time”; “found themselves on the wrong road”; “based on the wrong assumptions”

  312. Ksinde. Says:

    Leo is so sincere and passionate, he started to choke up at the beginning of the show when he announced that the justices will review his case. he is all about the constitution

  313. Tenacity Says:

    Troy Says:

    November 20, 2008 at 4:18 am
    preppies before college and elitists after?

    —————
    After graduate school

  314. drsharonschuetz Says:

    Cindy…Very good. You found the website all by yourself.

  315. Cyndi Says:

    Now which Cindy/Cyndi were you referring?????

  316. sba1872 Says:

    Ksinde.,

    I know. He didn’t seek media until he felt the court clerk was dicking with his docket. Then he sought media attention to have “we the people” shine the light on this case. He’s not about ego or partisanship. He has a reverence and respect for the law. You have to admire and respect that. (Well, I do, anyway. I actually know other lawyers who are like that.)

  317. ddlew Says:

    Truy…

    You playing Poker tonight?

  318. Ksinde. Says:

    lan said for everyone to go to Drudge’s site and on the right hand side there is a “send news” box. Tell drudge about leo and what is happening. Hopefully drudge will pick it up

  319. sliderblaze Says:

    i just emailed drudge

  320. hockeyfan530 Says:

    as far as API goes, if it really is a scam, what is the point of going through all of these hassles? Why not let the site shut down. Move and be done with it if it’s a scam? Why would he continue when he’s had several “outs”?
    If it ends up being a scam and he’s just trying to get hits this will be horrible for him and any new site. He will never be trusted if this is a scam. I don’t know…just sayin’

  321. Ksinde. Says:

    sba…not to sound corny, but you can just here the sincerety and passion in his voice.

  322. drsharonschuetz Says:

    Cyndi Says:

    November 20, 2008 at 4:27 am
    Now which Cindy/Cyndi were you referring?????

    =====================

    Not you Cyndi. My best friend spells her name the way you do.

    I’m talking about justanamericancindy. Oops. I’m sorry, I didn’t notice that it was you who put the definition of erroneous. I just saw “Cindy” and didn’t pay attention to the spelling. I’ll pay closer attention in the future.

  323. Ksinde. Says:

    i emailed drudge this afternoon. He will run with it. he cares about no backlash

  324. sliderblaze Says:

    i see redvelvetrebel is over at api,

    the same clown as

    sammymakesmesick on mountain sage

  325. sba1872 Says:

    Ksinde,

    Yes, you can hear and feel it. When somebody asked if he thought the Supremes were in Obama’s pocket, he said, no, all they care about is the law. That’s why they’re there. He has faith in the rule of law and confidence in his case. I hope they grant certiorari and schedule oral argument and he has the opportunity to present his case. This is living history, would be the first Supreme Court on this Constitutional issue.

  326. sba1872 Says:

    I’m leaving words out again. That’s what happens when I get excited. Meant to say that this would be the first Supreme Court CASE on this Constitutional issue.

  327. sliderblaze Says:

    omg, 99 redballons, yep, i’m getting old

  328. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    sliderblaze

    Yes,…. it won’t take long for the children to get started…

    But now I call it a night…. tired and need a full night sleep
    bye everyone

  329. sliderblaze Says:

    bye cindy

  330. Cyndi Says:

    No problem, I just haven’t heard the word erroneous used in a while refreshing my memory, so as not to misinterpret your post. For someone reason I was thinking of erroneous as really off the wall, like crazy, but I now see that it really means incorrect or not true.

  331. Ksinde. Says:

    sba…i know….living history!!!

  332. Ksinde. Says:

    night cindy

  333. drsharonschuetz Says:

    Cyndi, that’s what I felt when I watch the video.

  334. Cyndi Says:

    goodnight other cindy

  335. Cyndi Says:

    Now freerepublic.com website is down. Has anyone else tried. Is this normal to have all of these website problems?

  336. Ksinde. Says:

    sider, your drawing looks amazing. wish it was bigger.

  337. sliderblaze Says:

    Ksinde, thanks, it’s taken at least a half dozen first places for overall and pencil medium

  338. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Slider – you mentioned childbirth classes the other day – when is the baby due? At least I think it was you…

  339. sliderblaze Says:

    well, the 21is of december, but i dont think it’s gonna be that long, she’s already dropped so…

  340. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Well, best wishes to you all – I have a 12/8 girl who is turning 10 this year – it goes by so fast…makes your head spin some days

  341. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I am calling it a night…will chat with y’all tomorrow. Thanks everyone for the great conversations – it sure beats argueing with a three year old all day…well, except when JonEsq is here 🙂

  342. sliderblaze Says:

    i know, Zach, my first son is 9

  343. Ksinde. Says:

    CONGRATS sider, best wishes from me too. Is this your first?

  344. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Ksinde.
    grrr can’t sleep ….took a sleeping pill. waiting on it to work

    hey did you know I do photogrpahy?

  345. sliderblaze Says:

    2nd ksinde and thanks 😉

  346. Ksinde. Says:

    cindy,

    that stinks!!! no you didn’t tell me that.

  347. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I tossed some of my photos in Photobucket end of last week…… but with everything going on….

    http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u304/cinda66/?start=all

  348. Ksinde. Says:

    do you know if it is a girl or boy

  349. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u304/cinda66/?start=all

    tossed in some photos the end of last week…I really miss competing, used to compete in Chicago all the time

  350. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    test

  351. sliderblaze Says:

    its a boy Aidan Styles Slider

  352. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    s171.photobucket.com/albums/u304/cinda66/?start=all

    just put the http:// in front of it……… for some reason it won’t let me post the link

  353. drsharonschuetz Says:

    Congratulations Slider.

  354. Ksinde. Says:

    love it

  355. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    ksinde.

    the link to my photobucket is in my name………. for some reason it won’t let me post the link..

  356. sliderblaze Says:

    thanks everybody…woohooo

  357. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    congrats slider

    there is nothing more special than a child

  358. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    everyone leave?

  359. sliderblaze Says:

    no listening to the breitbart.tv, with debbie on it

  360. sliderblaze Says:

    wnd picked up leo’s story

  361. Ksinde. Says:

    slider, what r u watching?

    cindy, i will check it out

  362. Ksinde. Says:

    nice pics cindy!

  363. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Ksinde

    Thanks…… what I do when I can find the time

  364. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    meds finally kicking in….. will talk to everyone later

  365. Ksinde. Says:

    night

  366. susiezen Says:

    where is this blog coming from, 5:40am on nov 20th. its 1:00am eastrn time where im at

  367. Troy Says:

    slider,
    can you post a link of the radio show that has Debbie please

  368. j.w Says:

    http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/
    This is a good one…….pass it ’round!

    Onama makes me wanna ………….h u r l ! ugh.

  369. j.w Says:

    oops-scroll down to the video. It is on youtube-from Schuessel.

  370. j.w Says:

    …ello?………

  371. indy500 Says:

    Shutting down the API site was similar to a drive-by shooting. The victim is identified, the perps. pull up and unload a full magazine then drive off. But like a lot of criminals, they brag about their crime. It doesn’t take much to figure out their identities. Just like any thug, their willingness to brag exposes them. In this case the victim didn’t die and was able to identify.

    To me, it has nothing to with a tape, Imam or documents. I’m just glad the victim was able to provide evidence that points right to the hitmen and was able to continue on with their life.

    I hate thugs and bullies. Okay I’m done for today.

  372. rosettasister Says:

    Good Morning, Everyone!

    It’s 6:30 AM Mountain Time

    I will put up a new post very shortly and let you know.

    Need to drink my coffee and catch up.

    Have a wonderful day!

    Rose

  373. show-watchr Says:

    “To me, it has nothing to with a tape, Imam or documents”

    you’re right. it had to do with the fact that korir is a fraud. using his “rainbow” thing, that is fraudulent. he is a con-man. but… whatever. i no longer feel for anyone who gives thir info to him. he has been exposed as a guy who makes up stories. he has admitted to it. for the “hits”. go figure. you folks will stil kiss his a$$. and… i’ll watch.

  374. indy500 Says:

    show-watchr Says:

    November 20, 2008 at 1:34 pm
    ____________________________

    Dude, go back to your favorite den of vipers where you get the praise you seek – where you’re the star of the “show”.

  375. jonathanwrightesq Says:

    Good morning.

  376. show-watchr Says:

    indy500 Says:
    November 20, 2008 at 1:44 pm

    show-watchr Says:

    November 20, 2008 at 1:34 pm
    ____________________________

    Dude, go back to your favorite den of vipers where you get the praise you seek – where you’re the star of the “show”.

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    no. you’d be wrong. just watching you folks wait for the tape that doesn’t exist. Sorta like the larry thing. just won’t happen. i’m just enjoying the show. you’re part of it. play on. go on over and tell the chief how you’re praying for him. and… wasn’t he supposed to be in canada meeting with lawyers and media folks? oh yeah… whatever. hahazhhahahahahahah!

  377. jonathanwrightesq Says:

    Who still thinks the tapes are real?

  378. show-watchr Says:

    anybody have some evidence that the ad in the washington post really happened? I only saw a link to berg’s site… and … he’s not been exactly truthful. anybody with any eveidence that this ad really ran? anybody with anything other than a link to berg’s site?

  379. show-watchr Says:

    not washington post… should have been washington times. my bad.

  380. jonathanwrightesq Says:

    I wouldnt trust Sun Myung Moon much either. So who knows.

  381. show-watchr Says:

    A lot of money has been made for a few with thiese conspiracies. lol. Truth is, it really doesn’t matter much, does it?

  382. indy500 Says:

    jonathanwrightesq Says:

    November 20, 2008 at 2:05 pm
    ______________________________

    Who still thinks you’re talking with your “friend” in Bergs office. Got any more phony updates from that source? You really had everyone going on that one.

    Heard on the news that there was a shortage of spam. Musta heard that on msnbc.

  383. show-watchr Says:

    Here’s the thing… all these conspiracies… it doesn’t matter. They will say it’s about the consititution. But, it’s really not about anything other than their candidate didn’t win. so… whatever. None of it will amount to anything. The thing is… they just don’t like what the nation chose. so… deal with it Fight issues. this stuff… just not going anywhere. but, i do enjoy a good conspiracy. so… i’ll watch you folks go round and round. lol.

  384. show-watchr Says:

    Berg knows he’s on the losing end. but… good for bix. please… donate to his cause. lol.

  385. show-watchr Says:

    Have you all gone over to the chief’s site and given him your info? if you, i mplore to to do so. give him your name, ssn, address, phone number, etc. ’cause he’s worthy. he has come through each and every time he said he would release info. lol

  386. indy500 Says:

    jonathanwrightesq Says:

    November 20, 2008 at 2:09 pm
    ________________________________

    Ditto. I don’t trust you driveby’s much either. API must have the spam filter on. The mice are a scurrying to get their quota in.

  387. rosettasister Says:

    New Thread:

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  388. jonathanwrightesq Says:

    Lol

    Well with such a gullible crowd it was fun.

  389. Ksinde. Says:

    show… you need to get your head out of your butt. it is not that a dem won, it is about all the things he is hiding>with holding. It is not like we are asking for any national security secrets. i don’t feel comfortable with a president that feels he has to hide something so simple as his college transcripts. if he would just show us, his next employer, all that we are asking for, this would go away.

  390. jonathanwrightesq Says:

    Hey so I dont think the NEA was behind 9/11. I disagree with the Washington Times.

  391. hockeyfan530 Says:

    show,
    they are all conspiracy theories by definition. That’s all they will be until Obama proves them wrong. But why doesn’t he? Don’t you find it disturbing that there are so many unanswered questions? It’s not as if the theories aren’t logical. He admits to having dual citizenship. But ONLY after he couldn’t hide it any longer. How did he get as far as he did without anyone knowing he held dual citizenship? I thought he was new type of transparent politician. For a transparent person he certainly hides a lot of things. Birth certificate. college information, medical records….
    There is the Indonesian school registration and his travel in Pakistan in the 80’s that raises logical doubts about him. This isn’t just sour grapes as they have been going on for months now. We just want to know the guy. Let him answer these accusations if he can. Prove us wrong and everyone moves on.

  392. toonces777 Says:

    Wow! Why is it all the MS visitors are so fixated and convinced we are desperately waiting for tapes to appear? Have we SAID that? Not me! I come here to get information and be respected, not belittled. If tapes actually appeared, great, but sure not holding my breath. In the meantime, there are lots of constructive things I can do to help Conservatives.

    Hey Libs, how about letting us do our own thinking?

  393. show-watchr Says:

    show… you need to get your head out of your butt. it is not that a dem won, it is about all the things he is hiding>with holding. It is not like we are asking for any national security secrets. i don’t feel comfortable with a president that feels he has to hide something so simple as his college transcripts. if he would just show us, his next employer, all that we are asking for, this would go away.
    ==========
    et. al….

    the point is… it doens’t matter what he provides. this will continue. and… he doesn’t really give a rat’s a$$. he didn’t respond to larry, and, well, it turned out to be a bunch of crap.

    he will not respond. why should he?

    latest is that malcom x is his daddy? what do folks want? a toenail clipping for dna? hahahahhahaha!
    he will not respond to any of this. good.

  394. show-watchr Says:

    they are all conspiracy theories by definition. That’s all they will be until Obama proves them wrong. But why doesn’t he?
    ==============
    waste of time. stupid. not worthy. shall i go on?

  395. ThinkingMom Says:

    OK – show-watcher and jonesq – I find it really sad that y’all are SO OBSESSED with the tape deal. Many of us have MOVED ON. We discuss many things here one of which occaisionally seems to be the tapes. But if you would take a minute and read through most people are extremely skeptical and many don’t believe at all and there are a few who just kinda hope it is true but aren’t stakeing much in that matter.

    If you guys come on here and just start throwning insults around like some toddler with his first bowl of spaghetti, I am going to get seriously p*ssed. Which – I know – you don’t care about and you will probably hurl insults at me because that is the way you work: Mock, accuse, insult, mock some more, defend yourselves as some sort of saviour saving us from some perceived threat that endangers our “feelings, ” ignore pleas asking you to leave, disrupt the conversation and then leave feeling oh so superior to the “poor naves” here. I, for one an not interested in your childish folly. Go find some other co-dependant to save.

    So I am going to ask you to please not come here anymore. I am sure you are both intellegent people but the people here are too. Many of us here just have a different worldview than you do – SO WHAT – it happens.
    Your coming here mocking us (for something that is not nearly a big deal here as you seem to think it is) does nothing to win people over to your way of thinking – it just makes us angry and makes you look, well, petty and mean-spirited. (I know none of this bothers you because you seem to have such a high opinion of yourself that nothing anyone could ever say to you could ever reach you up in the little ivory tower you have built for yourself – but I want to say it anyway.)

    Fortunately most of us have grown up and I suggest you do the same.

  396. thinkingmom11 Says:

    That was me above – forgot to login…

  397. jonathanwrightesq Says:

    I was mocking noone.

    I was asking because I have not heard anything on the tapes from here. It seems most moved on as you point out mom.

    Show is off base on his assesment.

  398. hockeyfan530 Says:

    show,
    It’s simple
    Fact he admitted to having dual citizenship. That was nice of him to admit it when he could no longer hide it.
    Fact he attended school in Indonesia. How, during that time he had to be a citizen of Indonesia. This isn’t heresay. My fiancee, an Obama supporter, works with an Indonesian and he verified this fact and the fact that Indonesia doesn’t have dual citizenship
    Fact he travelled in Pakistan in the ’80’s. Do your own research on the issue with an American/non-muslim traveling in Pakistan during that time

  399. show-watchr Says:

    Does anybody have a link to anything other than beg’s site that shows that ad was printed in the washington times? or is that just more smoke? I can’t find anyinthing? just like his deal with obama gotta provive this or that. not true. anybody? got a link. or just more crap from the berg?

  400. show-watchr Says:

    Don’t get me wong. i think you all should contribute much $$$ to the berg. after all, he hasn’t had enough hawaiian vacactions this year. give heartily. i would. ha! give till it hurts. give to the man. he deserves it. he’s been oh so honest with you.

  401. hockeyfan530 Says:

    show,

    It was not worth it when people talked about his dual citizenship, his relationship with ACORN, his relationship with Ayers, his relationship with Kahlid, his relationship with Wright ect. However, when the truth came out about those….you turned a blind eye to that too! When does it end with you? How many lies can you take from Obama before you say enough? With all of his lies aren’t you even a little curious about him? If not why not? Now there is his Selective Service issue to deal with also

  402. show-watchr Says:

    hockeyfan530 Says:
    November 20, 2008 at 2:37 pm

    show,
    It’s simple
    Fact he admitted to having dual citizenship. That was nice of him to admit it when he could no longer hide it.
    Fact he attended school in Indonesia. How, during that time he had to be a citizen of Indonesia. This isn’t heresay. My fiancee, an Obama supporter, works with an Indonesian and he verified this fact and the fact that Indonesia doesn’t have dual citizenship
    Fact he travelled in Pakistan in the ’80’s. Do your own research on the issue with an American/non-muslim traveling in Pakistan during that time
    ========
    i have researched this. it doesn’t matter. a parent can’t renounce citizenship for a child. etc. doesn’t matter. stories go on in these sites. doesn’t matter. no problem. you should focus on issues. ’cause all this conspiracy stuff will get you nowhere. really. deal with it. move on.

  403. show-watchr Says:

    i can, in fact, argue each and every point. but, who cares? each and evey pont can be argues. the fact is, you don’t want obama as your president. each and every stupid point you bring about dual citizenshp, adoption, etc. can be argued. get over it. deal with issues.

  404. show-watchr Says:

    where is this “washington times” ad? where is the “usa today” ad that they were collecting money for? that was supposed to be in the paper last week? the “washington times” ad was supposed to be monday? where are these ads? show me. don’t give me berg’s site… he’s been shown to be a big fat liar.

  405. show-watchr Says:

    i’m guessing ya’ll are looking for the ads, that never existed. sorta like the tapes. please do… give money to these frauds. give till it hurts.

  406. dixieinflorida Says:

    Hi all………anybody got donuts? Lighten up already show. I think we all have the same goal and that is we want to see proof of something to put the doubts behind us.

  407. Goferit Says:

    Here’s one for Show watcher….
    Try to remember as you continue to type with all your uneducated misspellings and two word sentences.

    We are allowed to have our own opinions. We don’t need you to tell us what to think. When we get ANY answers to our questions, we will move on, in our own directions. Your talking points fax just came in, better get it.

    Thanks to the Eagles for such great lyrics.
    Get Over It

    I turn on the tube and what do I see
    A whole lotta people cryin’ “Don’t blame me”
    They point their crooked little fingers ar everybody else
    Spend all their time feelin’ sorry for themselves
    Victim of this, victim of that
    Your momma’s too thin; your daddy’s too fat

    Get over it
    Get over it
    All this whinin’ and cryin’ and pitchin’ a fit
    Get over it, get over it

    You say you haven’t been the same since you had your little crash
    But you might feel better if I gave you some cash
    The more I think about it, Old Billy was right
    Let’s k!ll all the lawyers, k!ll ’em tonight
    You don’t want to work, you want to live like a king
    But the big, bad world doesn’t owe you a thing

    Get over it
    Get over it
    If you don’t want to play, then you might as well split
    Get over it, Get over it

    It’s like going to confession every time I hear you speak
    You’re makin’ the most of your losin’ streak
    Some call it sick, but I call it weak

    You drag it around like a ball and chain
    You wallow in the guilt; you wallow in the pain
    You wave it like a flag, you wear it like a crown
    Got your mind in the gutter, bringin’ everybody down
    Complain about the present and blame it on the past
    I’d like to find your inner child and kick its little as*

  408. LadyTX48 Says:

    The Obama example
    Posted: WND November 19, 2008 – 1:00 am Eastern

    Next time you move to another state and need a new driver’s license, try this: Refuse to produce the birth certificate or any other personal information required by the department of motor vehicles. Just explain that a facsimile of the required document is posted on your website and give the clerk the domain name.

    Tell them: “I’m following the example of President-elect Barack Obama. If he didn’t need to produce a birth certificate to establish his eligibility to be president of the United States, why would you require me to produce one to get a lousy driver’s license?”

    See if it flies.
    (more…)
    http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81347

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