“People trying to stop API airing the Michelle Obama tape will fail”

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Please see comments section below for info sent to me about new API site.

http://africanpress.tripod.com/id11.html

The Michelle Obama Tapes to go on air as planned despite enemies struggling to block API and deny the American people the truth

—– Original Message —–

From: ” <Good American Group>

To: “‘African Press International (API)'” <africanpress@getmail.no>

Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 10:36 AM

Subject: three things about people like the so called “mountain sage”

Dear Sir,

I’ve included three stories that you might be interested to read and which could help all at API understand people like “mountain sage” and her cyber minons. Sorry that it is so long a message in total. Maybe a print out would be necessary to read it easily.

By Good American Group
U.S.A.
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Number one, is an annonymous email left on www.hillbuzz.com, from a campaign operative who wanted to confess to using methods of propaganda to disuade, discourage, and destroy the challenger. All along, we thought there was an effort to delete all negative posts about Obama across the internet. It appears that we were right about such coordinated efforts taking place. And from this you can surmise that the people that have paid such close attention to your web blog are among those operatives:
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October 27, 2008 at 5:04 am

Ok, I want to clear my conscious a little. Hopefully you could make a blog post to help some fellow clinton supporters out.

I work for a campaign and can’t wait for this week to be over.

I was doing it for a job. I was not a fan of any candidate but over time grew to love HRC.

The internal campaign idea is to twist, distort, humiliate and finally dispirit you.

We pay people and organize people to go to all the online sites and “play the part of a clinton or mccain supporter who just switched our support for Obama”

We do this to stifle your motivation and to destroy your confidence.

We did this the whole primary and it worked.

Sprinkle in mass vote confusion and it becomes bewildering. Most people lose patience and just give up on their support of a candidate and decide to just block out tv, news, websites, etc.

This surprisingly has had a huge suppressing movement and vote turnout issues.

Next, we infiltrate all the blogs and all the youtube videos and overwhelm the voting, the comments, etc. All to continue this appearance of overwhelming world support.

People makes posts to the effect that the world has “gone mad”

Thats the intention. To make you feel stressed and crazy and feel like the world is ending.

We have also had quite a hand in skewing many many polls, some we couldn’t control as much as we would have liked. But many we have spoiled over. Just enough to make real clear politics look scarey to a mccain supporter. Its worked, alough the goal was to appear 13-15 points ahead.

See, the results have been working. People tend to support a winner, go with the flow, become “sheeple”

The polls are roughly 3-5 points in favor of Barack. Thats due to our inflation of the polls and pulling in the sheeple.

Our donors, are the same people who finance the MSM. Their interests are tied, Barack then tends to come across as teflon. Nothing sticks. And trust, there were meetings with Fox news. The goal was to blunt them as much as possible. Watch Bill Oreilly he has become much more diplomatic and “fair and balanced” and soft. Its because he wants to retain the #1 spot on cable news and to do that he has to have access to the Obama campaign and we worked hard at stringing him a long and keeping him soft for an interview swap. It worked and now he is anticipating more access. So he is playing it still soft.

This is why nothing sticks.

The operation is massive, the goal is to paint a picture that is that of a winner, regardless of the results.

There is no true inauguration draft or true grant park construction going on. There will be a party, but we are boasting beyond the truth to make it seem like the election is wrapped up.

Our goal is to continue to make you lose your moral. We worked hard at persuasion and paying off and timing and playing the right political numbers to get key republican endorsements to make it seem even more like it was over and the world was coming to an end for you all.

There is a huge staff of people working around the clock, watching every site, blogs, etc. We flood these sites. We have had a goal to overwhelm.

The truth is here. I could go on and on, but you get the picture.

I am saying this because I know HRC was better for the country, and now realize this. I was too late by the time I connected to her. To me Barack was just a cool young dude that seemed like a star. I didn’t know him or his policies, but now I understand more than I care to and I realize his interests are more for him, and the DNC and all working like puppets with dean. I always thought a president wanted the better good for the country.

The end result I see is everyone dependent on the government, this means more and more people voting for the DNC. This means the future is forever altered. I don’t see this as america,

so I am now supporting John Mccain.

Sarah Palin is a huge threat, and our campaign has feared her like you can’t imagine. If it seems unfair how she has been treated, well its because she has had a team working round the clock to make her look like a fool.
This is a big conspiracy and I am so shocked that its not realized.
We released a little blurb the other day that the Obama campaign was already working on reelection and now putting our efforts towards 2012. This was to make it seem like it was above us to continue caring about 2008. Trust me, its a lie. David is very smart, but its a sticky ugly not very truthful kind of intelligence.

Its not over yet, but I think the machine is working. And its a hill to climb.
I will be quitting my post on nov 5th and my vote will be for John Mccain.

Fortunately, my position has been a marketing position and I don’t feel I had any part of anything I would feel guilty for. But I look forward to getting out of this as the negativity and environment upsets me. I wish you all well, and goodluck.

PS my name is not really sarah. but I am a female and I understand your plight.
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Number two, is a link to http://www.dianawest.net/ and her view of America today. It shows just why the propagandists and censors (like your attackers) won so easily. They can easily influence seriously immature voters who simply want to go with the winner no matter the cost. I think you can get a glimpse into the mind of the so called “mountain sage” by reading Diana West’s blog at least but especially her book called “The Death of the Adult.”

Once, there was a world without teenagers. Literally, “teenager,” the word itself, doesn’t pop into the lexicon much before 1941. That means that for all but this most recent period of history, there were children and there were adults. Children in their teen years aspired to adulthood; significantly, they didn’t aspire to adolescence. Certainly, men and women didn’t aspire to remain teenagers.
Today, turning thirteen, instead of bringing children closer to an adult world, launches them into a teen universe. And due to the hold our culture has placed on the maturation process, that’s where they’re likely to find the adults.

Most of us have grown up–or, at least, grown–into this new kind of adulthood, this perpetual adolescence so much the norm that it’s difficult to recognize it as the profound civilizational shift that it is. Here to help is this blog, which will monitor the news of the day to keep tabs on the “Grown-Up” and the “Not Grown-Up” among us.

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And finally, number three, another damning story from www.worldnetdaily.com about voters, and people like “mountain sage” especially.

“Liberals clinically mad, concludes top psychiatrist”
Eminent doctor makes case leftist ideology is a mental disorder

Posted: November 12, 2008 6:33 pm Eastern

C 2008 WorldNetDaily
WASHINGTON – Just when liberals thought it was safe to start identifying themselves as such, an acclaimed, veteran psychiatrist is making the case that the ideology motivating them is actually a mental disorder.

“Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded,” says Dr. Lyle Rossiter, author of the new book, “The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness.” “Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave.”
While political activists on the other side of the spectrum have made similar observations,

Rossiter boasts professional credentials and a life virtually free of activism and links to “the vast right-wing conspiracy.”
For more than 35 years he has diagnosed and treated more than 1,500 patients as a board-certified clinical psychiatrist and examined more than 2,700 civil and criminal cases as a board-certified forensic psychiatrist. He received his medical and psychiatric training at the
University of Chicago.

Rossiter says the kind of liberalism being displayed by both Barack Obama and his Democratic primary opponent Hillary Clinton can only be understood as a psychological disorder.
“A social scientist who understands human nature will not dismiss the vital roles of free choice, voluntary cooperation and moral integrity – as liberals do,” he says. “A political leader who understands human nature will not ignore individual differences in talent, drive, personal appeal and work ethic, and then try to impose economic and social equality on the population – as liberals do. And a legislator who understands human nature will not create an environment of rules which over-regulates and over-taxes the nation’s citizens, corrupts their character and reduces them to wards of the state – as liberals do.”
Dr. Rossiter says the liberal agenda preys on weakness and feelings of inferiority in the population by:
1) creating and reinforcing perceptions of victimization; satisfying infantile claims to entitlement, indulgence and compensation; augmenting primitive feelings of envy; rejecting the sovereignty of the individual, subordinating him to the will of the government.

“The roots of liberalism – and its associated madness can be clearly identified by understanding how children develop from infancy to adulthood and how distorted development produces the irrational beliefs of the liberal mind,” he says. “When the modern liberal mind whines about imaginary victims, rages against imaginary villains and seeks above all else to run the lives of persons competent to run their own lives, the neurosis of the liberal mind becomes painfully obvious.”

—–Original Message—–
From: African Press International (API) [mailto:africanpress@getmail.no]
Sent:
Thursday, October 23, 2008 9:56 PM
To: Good American Group

Subject: Re: I think it is interesting that it took an international member of the IRE to break this story

Let me personally thank you for your wordings

Chief Editor Korir

—– Original Message —–
From: ” <Good American Group>
To: <africanpress@getmail.no>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 5:31 AM
Subject: I think it is interesting that it took an international member of the IRE to break this story

Thanks for doing the job that your American counterparts in Investigative Reporters and Editors have failed to do. They have consciously ignored these warning signs and details. So it took someone in the International Investigative Reporters and Editors instead. Americans have little respect for the mainstream media any longer and yet the main stream media thinks we haven’t noticed or not smart enough to care about their omissions. However, we noticed their complicity in the 2000 election, where thieves complained about being robbed and their useful idiots today still bleat on about how the republicans will steal the election in 2008. In the mean time, your compatriots here in Missouri School of Journalism are ignoring ACORN and their patron Obama. It amazes me that they’ve gotten so rotten it takes the international media to uncover the criminality at hand, but thank god for the African Press.

From Kansas CityUSA
Oct 2008

Michelle Obama Chief Editor Korir African Press International API


393 Responses to ““People trying to stop API airing the Michelle Obama tape will fail””

  1. rosettasister Says:

    From a friend:

    WOW – I did not sign up for this tonight!!!

    I had sent Mr K an email and got a fast reply asking me to tell everyone on my email list about his new address

    http://africanpress.tripod.com/

    and that the others were fake and that they were going to open a www site.

    Click on the top link NEW POST at the fake site

    http://newafricanpress.wordpress.com/and

    see that it shows your individual blogs and in some cases you can even get into them and moderate them.

    These guys are good.

    There was a statement on the RS blog that the email contact goes to

    API@WORPRESS

    WRONG!!!

    Go to the tripod site

    http://africanpress.tripod.com/id6.html

    and click on contact API and it goes to africanpress email that we all have always used.

    Remind me to NEVER organize a email list AGAIN!!!!

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    RS – are you still up?

    I will NEVER be the messenger again!

    Please read parts of what I posted above at the D-blog and pick and chose what works for you.

    Even rewrite the whole thing

    These people are all probably writing you non-stop too.

    I got word back from API people (never know if it is k or one of his staff) that they will have their www up on tuesday.

    Lets hope that Mr K is right about tripod not being able to be hacked.

  2. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I am getting nothing at the tripod site now…just the title and background. Anyone else having trouble?

    You know Korir is certainly persistant for this to be a hoax…I was convinced it was bogus – but he keeps trying!! He had the perfect “out” with getting out of his lie (if it was). But he persists – even using the same name – so it doesn’t seem that he is trying to hide. Methinks that this gets “curiouser and curiouser..”

  3. kmac Says:

    hiya all,
    I’ve been watching the past day…trying to catch up with posts here. I’m glad I found people from the API site. Like many of you, I’m still trying to figure things out and decide what is true and not true.
    If the tripod site is real, why then do their news stories point back to this web blog? API didn’t have those stories in their own files? Also, tripod is very easy to be hacked…when i had a chattroom I had a webpage there and they hacked it saying that it was very easy to do. Hackers can get into just about every site if they are good enough and patient enough.
    We probably need an answer as to why the tripod page links back here.

  4. ddlew Says:

    If the new wordpress site is a fake, then how did the correct address, the tripod address, get added to the top of the “fake wordpress” site.

    This leads me to believe that they are either both fake or both Korir’s.

  5. sliderblaze Says:

    ESQ. i disagree with that bush was bad for the country. why i believe this, i put myself in peoples shoes often. If I were pres. at the time bush was and i had all evidence, (wrong or right) that he did, with all the crap that 9/11 brought, what would i have done. Dems and Repubs with the exception of 2 i think voted for the war. Was it run effectively, at first, yes, in the middle no, at the end, yes. Every war has it difficulties, remember d-day, the paratroopers all 6000 of them were scatter across france, in the confines of todays dem politicians, it woulda be a failure and they woulda pulled out. It seems were dems see failure and wanna run away, republicans see an opptnty for success. We have to look at Iraq from a historic point of view, if 10yrs from now, Iraq is a stable, islamic democracy and a powerful nation for the good of islamic people in the region, will history view it as a major success, or a wrongfully prosecuted war? Remember Ted Kennedy calling Iraq a quagmire, 3 weeks into the conventional war because bagdad didnt fall yet?

  6. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Rosetta – I have a comment in moderation on the other thread..there are a couple of links in it backing up what I wrote is maybe why…could you check it out – and maybe I can copy it over here as it pertains to the discussion.

  7. Tenacity Says:

    It’s like Korir was working on his tripod sight while his staff was trying to stay up on WordPress long enough to let people know about the new site.

    When I refreshed the tripod site moments ago, I got only the tripod heading and world map.

  8. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Sorry – Rosetta – I didn’t even say “please” – my kids would have called me out on that one 🙂

  9. sliderblaze Says:

    Gov. in my opinion is only there to keep us safe and to keep us free. Social programs should be highly limted, i shouldnt be guilt strickin by anyone to wanna provide for people who are too lazy to provide for themselves, thats up to that individuals family to do. Should we help out those who cant for themselves, absolutely, without a doubt. But what is wrong with setting requirements for welfare, requirements being, drug testing, time limit to get your life going, and no children more children from the time you get on welfare till the time you are off? Welfare has become a right to the left. Just like healthcare has become a right to them.

    And for Bush to keep us safe for 7yrs, makes it successful to me. Especially when we go back in history and see that for the 9yrs before that, we had 9 attacks on us soil

  10. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Slider – again you are speaking my mind. Well said.

  11. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Slider – I wanted to say too, that Jefferson and Franklin would be proud!

  12. jonathanwrightesq Says:

    Iraq is just one issue.

    The arguments can be made that bush did the best with intelligence he had or that he cherry picked intelligence to fit his agenda and so on.

    I was against Iraq from day one even though I was living in a city that was attacked on 9/11 I felt it was the wrong war so I have never been on his side on that. If it was just Iraq I would disagree strongly but not think he was ruining the country.

    Guantamo, torture, the patriot act, stem cells, supreme court nominees, slow on enviromental policies, and so on. The list of things I think he did wrong is termendous so it pushes me past policy disagreement into thinking he was a disaster for our country.

    I understand there are those that disagree with me on Bush. My point was I was not brainwashed by the media or teachers to hate him. I formed my own opinion of decisions he made that I disagreed with again and again and again…

  13. ddlew Says:

    The term “hacked” has been used in every discussion describing the events at API. API even stated that their site had been “hacked.”

    So here’s the play.

    If a true “hacking” of the site occurred, then all email addresses were compromised.

    This explains why the emails have been going out with the tripod address AND the tripod address was placed at the top of the supposed fake wordpress account.

    My belief is that whoever hacked the original API site created the new wordpress site, the tripod site, and sent emails out regarding the tripod site.

    Don’t believe anything until you hear of a phone call or you receive a phone call from Korir. I believe the hacker(s) are carrying this out to destroy Korir and the faith that any of his supporters may still have in him.

    Personally I think both accounts are fake.

  14. sliderblaze Says:

    well thinkingmom, patient, rational thinking human beings tend to agree a lot

  15. Tenacity Says:

    Rosetta,
    Did Korir have permission to link his article titles to your site? Some were concerned that this might discredit you.

  16. rosettasister Says:

    Tenacity Says:
    November 17, 2008 at 4:59 pm

    Rosetta,
    Did Korir have permission to link his article titles to your site? Some were concerned that this might discredit you.

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    Well no.

    But he didn’t need my permission really.

    Why would that discredit me?

    Are you talking about tripod site?

  17. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I personally think that his Supreme Court nominees have been brilliant so far; environmental policies – I am of the belief that Global warming is a natural, cyclical phenomenom that has more to do with solar flare activity and very little to do with man’s activity so I am glad he didn’t sign Kyoto (if that is what you mean). Also, now the evidence is trending back toward a cooling cycle – it just happens.

    I am glad you have come to your own conclusions on your opinion on Bush. I hope you can allow others the luxury of doing the same even if it doesn’t agree with your own conclusion. We all filter information based on our own personal experiences, values and worldview and thus no one is going to agree with someone else 100% of the time (except for maybe me and slider – so far 😉 )

    However, many people in this country do not take the time to research and think for themselves and so they DO get their “opinion” from what they hear on the media – I don’t think too many people will disagree with me on that.

  18. Tenacity Says:

    Slider,
    There is a lot that I respect about Bush. I believe going into Iraq was the correct move for a myriad of reasons. It took the battle to the enemies yard. The enemy is radical Islam and Iraq was a primary breeding ground and still is. We interrupted their training of the youth. We gave them a different focus point. We protected many Christians and gave some the physical ability to think freely.

    On the other hand, Bush has failed to secure our borders and communicate as you said in your earlier post. This has most certainly contributed to the demise of the party and, to some extent, the country.

  19. Troy Says:

    Greetings All

  20. Tenacity Says:

    Bush also failed to use the veto pen when it came to pork and general out of control spending. His attempts to regulate the mortgage industry bordered on negligent. He should have been much louder and took his case to the people…hammering people like Dodd and Frank. Too many wimps on the right and Bush was one of them.

  21. sliderblaze Says:

    Esq.

    Gitmo – needed to be there, i dont think imo that rights should be granted to those who will use children and hide behind civilians. it needs to be clear that if you do that, all your civil rights are GONE.

    torture – you mean like the cutting off of heads like al queda does? torture is defined by an individual and i respect your opinion even tho i dont agree with you, stressing someone out to me isnt torture.

    Pat act – proven time and time again to be effective in thwarting attacks, i can site examples if you want. once again, how has the Pat act affected your life personally? i do think that there needs to be strict oversite and if violated, should be held to account just like all policies, including the rediculous bailout crap

    stem cells – should not be gov. funded, but for me it’s because there is a lot more money available in the private market then government.

    envirnmental pol. – agreed, however, i also know that those kind of policies often stifle free markets and economic growth and there should be a delicate balance of both and we havent found that yet.

    i take every policy a pres has and look at it from both sides, the world is a series of trade offs, we cant have everything all the time.

  22. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Rosetta – thanks for releasing that post…

    It had to do with the uranium found in Iraq that was transferred to Canada, if anyone is interested…

  23. rosettasister Says:

    thinkingmom11 Says:
    November 17, 2008 at 5:11 pm

    Rosetta – thanks for releasing that post…

    It had to do with the uranium found in Iraq that was transferred to Canada, if anyone is interested…

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    No problem

    Thanks for posting!

  24. Tenacity Says:

    Rosetta,
    Yes the tripod site. If you look at the last thread after you signed off last night, you will see what I mean. Some thought his site was fake like ddlew above and thought that the imposters were trying to damage you along with Korir. I thought that if you did speak to Korir about linking, then that could help us know whether Korir’s new site is legit.

  25. jonathanwrightesq Says:

    thinkingmom

    what i disagree with is the notion that people on the left just drink in what the media feeds them more than people on the right.

    I believe there are plenty of people that listen to Rush as there only source of politics and never search out a counter opinion or take fox news as the gospel. Yes on the left the same thing happens people take a liberal opinion and never seek out another.

    Back 8 years ago (the last election outside of wartime and a recession) we had a virtual tie for president this country is pretty split down the middle in most cases there is an equal amount of ignorance (and informed opinions) on both sides…

  26. sliderblaze Says:

    tenacity, i agree AGAIN,

    the boarder issue has been a calamity at best. that is where i totally disagree with bush. also on spending, good lord, and he cant tell me it was to get dems on board with him, if so, we see how that worked out.

  27. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    hello everyone

  28. kmac Says:

    Another thing about the tripod site….
    why would API, after all that has happened, get a free site on tripod? why not pay for a domain and do it right? there is no domain associated with Mr. Korir…. i did a search on Africanpressinternational.com and that site domain is owned by:
    http://www.whois.net/whois_new.cgi?d=africanpressinternational&tld=com
    Seems there are alot of people out to stop the Chief from getting a site.

  29. jonathanwrightesq Says:

    slider

    My point on those issues is I fall on the otherside of you on all of them. I dont think you are a bad person or hate you for it. I disagree with you. I looked at those issues and so civil liberty violations, geneva convention violations, loss of standing as a moral leader and so on.

    We can both be informed and disagree. That is politics.

  30. Tenacity Says:

    Rosetta,
    Go to the tripod site (which is back up btw) and click on “The Imam Safety Net” along the left side. Then click on the title of the article. It is a permanent link back to your site.

  31. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I did see a post over at MS showing a link to a “hack mirror cloning software” yesterday evening…… then sage deleted the post.

    I read the post over there often, so I can figure out what is going on… sometimes they forget they are being watched.

    Most over there think they are saving us from yourselves and Korir.
    I only think a handfull went full rogue on this.

  32. jonathanwrightesq Says:

    Grrr apologies on spelling.

  33. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Ha Ha – I have found it! I love this place!

    Jon – I didn’t say that just people on the left are duped by the media. I think a large portion of Americans (the high part of the Bell vurve) are just too busy or disinterested to pay much attention to matters of politics. I think people who are “left” or “right” and claim such are much more informed than most but perceive things differently based on their own worldview/values/personal experience.

  34. Troy Says:

    In an Statement of admission, it was Cartoon Pig Dog from the MS site that hacked API

  35. sliderblaze Says:

    Esq, that is right, and my beef isnt with people of your intelligence stature, it’s with the people i run into, that wanna beat on a president WITHOUT being informed. example….haliburton, we heard tons about haliburton being evil and bush being evil for giving them a no bid contract.

    I was pissed off too, at first.
    till i realized that clinton too, gave them a no bid contract to rebuild Kosovo, cus it turns out, they are the only company that do what they do, rebuild a country in a war zone cus they can provide the necessary security to do so.

  36. Tenacity Says:

    JWesq,
    History teaches us differently. Do you buy into appeasing radical Islam?

  37. jonathanwrightesq Says:

    Okay thinkingmom.

    I was kinda lumping you in with Slider’s orginal point on the youth that voted Obama being brainwashed by the media and teachers to hate bush.

    So I kinda took your point and his together to respond. I do agree, I think a large majority of Americans just dont take the time…

  38. jonathanwrightesq Says:

    Tenacity,

    I believe and radical religous teaching can be dangerous I do not single out Islam.

    On governments role for stomping out radical religious teachings I am wary of it across the board.

  39. jonathanwrightesq Says:

    Okay

    Understood as I said I was just building from your post of the 18-24 year olds that voted for Obama…

    Now I do know the no bid thing happens all the time but could the intelligence been picked a bit to push bush from those that would profit on the war? hmmmm…

  40. Tenacity Says:

    JWesq,
    Do you believe Gore deserved the Nobel Prize for his work on global warming?

  41. jonathanwrightesq Says:

    Gore has always written and spoken out for environmentalist. I am not sure I can be one to judge if his work was nobel prize worthy or not.

  42. sliderblaze Says:

    Esq
    I was kinda lumping you in with Slider’s orginal point on the youth that voted Obama being brainwashed by the media and teachers to hate bush.

    So I kinda took your point and his together to respond. I do agree, I think a large majority of Americans just dont take the time…

    That was my point, the youth dont take the time to learn and form their own opinions because it is spoon fed to them through school and education, and the likes of msnbc, case and point.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-kass-13-nov13,0,2881384.column

    Like i said before, you’d be amazed at how many of my friends, when we talk politics, just arent informed and base their judgement off what the read and hear other people say.

  43. sliderblaze Says:

    Doesnt Gore own the company that profits in carbon offsets? i guess we can make the arguement that Gore is just preaching about global warming for a profit?

  44. Troy Says:

    Why is it that the Founding Fathers of the Constitution made a provision that one is required to be at least 35 years of age to run for POTUS?….It’s simple, because they knew that it was necessary for someone to have lived long enough to gain enough wisdom to hold the most important job in the world…They felt that anyone yonger simply would not have enough life expirience yet and they were right….With that logic, if only people over 35 years of age were allowed to vote we wouldn’t be in the mess we are in right now….Sorry, but that’s just the way I feel about….I would not have trusted my 21 year old self to make a wise and informed decision as I am able to now.

  45. rosettasister Says:

    From another thread:

    Flamineagle Says:
    November 17, 2008 at 5:15 pm

    justanamericancindy4 Says:
    November 16, 2008 at 12:30 am

    I just checked over in MS
    Sage gave a coded message earlier about going “underground” and another mentioned a “mole” ….. most damning discussions are by email between the members…… this isn’t over yet everybody…
    Hopefully everything will be out in the open, before they can do more harm
    _____
    I agree, and I posted at MS blog for the first and last time. under the title “African Press International and it’s Rainbow Foundation”. I really believe MS did it out of resentment, jealousy, that he had 3 million hits! I have never seen such viciousness, and down right plan of attack to bring a web site down! MS and her followers do email each other, but what they say on their own blog was in itself incriminating. I think after my comment to MS, her reply, and the comments after told the story. They didn’t care if Mr. Korir died or not, MS only complained quite loudly she was innocent, but I seen her own comments about shutting down API, and gloating about it. That Cartoon Pig Dog even took the fall for MS, but I’m sure he was not the main guy, it was MS jealousy that pushed the others. This woman needs to get a life, and grow up. If you don’t mind rosettasister, I would like to stay here, and call this my second home, now that API was shut down. You sound more reasonable, logical, and have more compassion in your little finger, then MS and her MS cult. Your members also seem very nice and level headed as well. Thanks,
    Blessings

    ——————————

    “If you don’t mind rosettasister, I would like to stay here, and call this my second home, now that API was shut down.”

    I don’t mind at all.

    If you click here:

    https://rosettasister.wordpress.com/

    You’ll see most recent thread on top.

  46. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    The media decided a long time ago tha Bush could do nothing right, so they always slant their storied to make him look bad.

    Ohhh he has made his mistakes, things I don’t agree with.. but he is not the worst President we have ever had.

  47. jonathanwrightesq Says:

    To make assumption of how the youth get their news is dangerous.

    By your logic troy I am old enough to be president slider is not. With my wisdom I should have a better understanding of things than him and thus my opinion more valid. That is just plain false.

  48. Tenacity Says:

    JWesq,
    It is amazing to me how we can look at the same set of facts and totally see a different picture. One of us or perhaps both of us are wrong, but we can’t both be right. I will commit to keeping an open mind.

  49. flamineagle Says:

    Okay, I see you already have this information Rosetta! Good to know, and it will take me a few to navigate around your blog. Happy to meet all of you:)

  50. jonathanwrightesq Says:

    Tenacity,

    I lived in DC for 10 years. Its the one thing I learned. People see the same thing yet process them completely different. Sports fans and politics are the worst about doing it.

  51. Troy Says:

    Ok…Well how would you feel about voting a 21 year old in as our next President?….Good idea?

  52. sliderblaze Says:

    Esq, i think they framed it that way as a generalization that with age comes wisdom in which case, i am a phenom then 😉 lol

    I do think that is why they did it that way.

  53. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I tried to post something over there (MS) to likeatrainwreck teasing her about getting her feelings hurt over something I posted here – the comment went into moderation and then just disappeared!

  54. sliderblaze Says:

    yes thining mom, i do believe she is doing the same thing they were faulting API for doing, dicarding a dissenting opinion

  55. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I vote for Slider for prez!

  56. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Tenacity

    Oh I wanted to thank you for your concern last night about my friend.

    He has 2 degree burns from the chest down.

    The fire was set on purpose because a troubled child in the neighborhood said he sexually molested him, something I didn’t believe for a second…

    Someone not knowing all the facts took it on themselves to make him pay..

  57. jonathanwrightesq Says:

    So what slope are you taking that a person of 21 should not vote? A person of 18?.

    A president should have a track record of proven ability. The same way a person of 25 does not become a CEO of a multi -million dollar corp a person of that age would not be president. A person may have wisdom and knowledge and be very informed at a young age but yet does not have a track record to show that it translates into good decision making. With president you need the track record.

  58. flamineagle Says:

    sweet, thanks for transferring my message from the other thread to your new one. You are very efficient too! I agree with others here, why go through all this trouble if the MO tapes was a Hoax! I just hope this is Mr. Korir’s new site, and that he is alive and well, and staying strong despite what happened. I hope that MS group will just let him along, and not follow him over to the new site, and harass the man.

    I think I need to go make some coffee, and wake my brain up a bit, lol

    brb

  59. thinkingmom11 Says:

    OOOOhhhh I REALLY like slider now – PLEASE dont’ correct your typo – I like being “thinning mom!!!”

  60. Tenacity Says:

    Cindy,
    May God’s healing hand be on your friend.

  61. ddlew Says:

    What is this D-blog site?

  62. Troy Says:

    I was simply making a point that if it were the case, we wouldn’t have our first Marxist President about to take office…That’s all!!!

  63. jonathanwrightesq Says:

    Ahhh

    So you want to take the votes away from young people. cool.

    That is a bit facists dont you think?

  64. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Does anyone else wish the posts were numbered? Would make it clearer when referring answers to previous posts…

  65. sliderblaze Says:

    lol, my spelling skills have become really suspect since the text messaging age came about, i’ll blame it on that. But for now on, ur thinning mom.

  66. rosettasister Says:

    Tenacity Says:
    November 17, 2008 at 5:12 pm

    Rosetta,

    Yes the tripod site. If you look at the last thread after you signed off last night, you will see what I mean. Some thought his site was fake like ddlew above and thought that the imposters were trying to damage you along with Korir.

    (well, if you look at comment #1 above, it is from a source that I trust. So for now I trust tripod is legit.)

    I thought that if you did speak to Korir about linking, then that could help us know whether Korir’s new site is legit.

    (Korir didn’t need my permission. Sometimes these links are generated automatically so that’s usually not an issue. So no – no permission. But I would never ask Korir for permission to link to his site either.)

    Confession Time:

    Mr Korir did try and call me once.

    I was in the bathtub and had my cell phone with me as my daughter was sick and I thought she might try and reach me when I was in tub.

    I got out of bath and didn’t recognize number didn’t answer

    Getting back into tub I slipped.

    Which would have been funny if it didn’t smart so much!

    Then Korir called house phone and my husband answered.

    So my husband has spoken with Korir but I haven’t.

    And Korir hasn’t been answering my emails lately, although he used to.

    Between Korir not seeming to be concerned that fingers were being pointed at me and then being blocked at API, I was pretty pissed!

    So in the last email I sent Korir I called him a “creep.”

    Maybe that’s why he hasn’t been emailing me.

    I have to go take care of some email.

    Will keep checking back to get comments out of moderation hell.

    Have a good day, everyone!

  67. Ksinde. Says:

    Slideblaze, if you ever decide you want to become a comedian, i am offering to be your agent/manager & i will do it for cheap…lol 😉

  68. Tenacity Says:

    Tenacity Says:
    I raised this on the previous thread and would like to bring it up again now that more folks are available to respond.

    November 17, 2008 at 4:11 pm
    Rosetta and others,
    Has their been any discussion here on the accusations that Parker Shannon (The Obama File), and Jeremy Ongeri have been partnering or enfluencing API? Those lurking at MS have likely seen these accusations and some of the evidence presented. Can anyone here substantiate or debunk these claims? If Korir puts up, then no masse. If he doesn’t, I’d like to have an idea who any conspirators may be.

  69. sliderblaze Says:

    ESQ

    Ahhh

    So you want to take the votes away from young people. cool.

    That is a bit facists dont you think?

    —————————————————————————————–
    I wish we could make the youth pass a history test before we give the right to vote. Hell, make everyone pass a history exam. but i know we cant do that so, it is what it is. there is a reason that when you talk to former Nazi controlled regions, the older people feel a whole lot different about america, then the youth does, just like the recently free nations feel just like the older people of those nazi controlled regions

  70. sliderblaze Says:

    whys that ksinde?

  71. Ksinde. Says:

    Just rying to catch up. SO what is everyones feelings on the tripod site? Do you think it is real or not?

  72. Troy Says:

    Tenacity,
    It was Sluggojd that started that claim over at MS….I wll go and find his socalled evidence that he listed and bring it back here….I read it and thought it was flimsy….What he claimed was that Parker created the Michelle tape story for API

  73. sliderblaze Says:

    tenacity, do you have a link on where i can start reading that stuff?

  74. Ksinde. Says:

    slider, cause you are always crackin me up…lol…between oriely jr and mr k looking like obama sr. and your wisecracks, you always have me lol.

  75. sliderblaze Says:

    eh, i do what i can, you know

    ask my friends tho, im a boat load of laughs
    especially when i get a few drinks in me, we often wake up often feeling we had an incredible ab workout the previous nite

  76. Ksinde. Says:

    i don’t need to ask your friends, already knew you would be clown of the party…lol

    just went to check the tripod site and it is blank

  77. sliderblaze Says:

    Oh, i know what you’re talking about now Tenacity, i read it and dismissed it right away cus, i mean, i dont need anymore crap in my head right now, it’s like a gallon in a shot glass, somethings gotta go and at this point, i think it’d be my childhood.

    i’m just on the wait and see band wagon

  78. Ksinde. Says:

    Well if the api tripod site is real, it does not have a blog… i am still suspicious!

  79. sliderblaze Says:

    i just went to the tripod site, i got full APIage everything still there

  80. Tenacity Says:

    Troy & Slider,
    It is posted on MS and I would have to find it again, which I don’t care to give them the hit. Sluggojd was not the only one. I think Pig Dog was doing that mirror tracking thing and found correspondence from API to “TheObamaFile” that specifically discussed the original MO tape announcement and he drew conclusions from there.

  81. Ksinde. Says:

    tena,

    yes i read that too over at the ms site, about the mirroring.

  82. thinkingmom11 Says:

    could you include a link to the API site that works – I still only get the background and title….

  83. Troy Says:

    Tenacity,
    Here is the post by sluggojd from the MS site where he says he made the discovery about Parker….At the very bottom I will put the link for the software that he said he usede to get the info.

    ————————————————————
    sluggojd
    November 16, 2008 at 9:24 pm
    ” KoolAid_Free_Lexi
    November 16, 2008 at 9:11 pm

    Sluggo,

    Parker Shannon had something to do w/ Korir’s farce?”

    Yes! When I created a mirror of API using HTTrack for the first time on 10/30, it got stuck while looking for something with the words “elephone-to-api.”

    At first, I couldn’t figure out how to dig deeper as to why it was stuck, but then I figured out that if I stop the “mirror” right after it gets stuck, the “hts-log” was small enough to load in Notepad.

    So I ran another mirror, stopped it as soon as it got stuck, and got this:

    “22:20:36 Error: “mirror stopped by user” (-1) at link africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/shocking-development-mrs-obama-decides-enough-is-enough-my-husband-was-born-in-hawaii-and-adopted-by-his-step-father-does-that-make-him-unpatriotic-she-asks-on-a-direct-telephone-to-api/http://www.TheObamaFIle.com (from africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/shocking-development-mrs-obama-decides-enough-is-enough-my-husband-was-born-in-hawaii-and-adopted-by-his-step-father-does-that-make-him-unpatriotic-she-asks-on-a-direct-telephone-to-api/)”

    (I bolded the part of interest)

    Later, I learned that HTTrack also stores data in a second file, under the folder hts-cache, title “new,” and again The Obama File was mentioned:

    “21:47:14 27023/27023 —MC- 404 error (’Not%20Found’) text/html date:Thu,%2030%20Oct%202008%2004:49:55%20GMT http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/shocking-development-mrs-obama-decides-enough-is-enough-my-husband-was-born-in-hawaii-and-adopted-by-his-step-father-does-that-make-him-unpatriotic-she-asks-on-a-direct-telephone-to-api/www.TheObamaFIle.com C:/API%20Miniature/africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/shocking-development-mrs-obama-decides-enough-is-enough-my-husband-was-born-in-hawaii-and-adopted-by-his-step-father-does-that-make-him-unpatriotic-she-asks-on-a-direct-telephone-to-api/http://www.TheObamaFIle.de.delayed (from http://africanpress.wordpress.com/)”

    I believe there is only one explanation why I got these results.
    ————————————————————
    sluggojd
    November 16, 2008 at 9:58 pm
    Wizcon, I never said API was set up by Parker Shannon of The Obama File.

    But I do have clear evidence that Parker was involved in the Michelle hoax.
    ————————————————————-
    Here is the software he said that he used: http://www.httrack.com/

  84. sliderblaze Says:

    http://africanpress.tripod.com/

  85. sliderblaze Says:

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6115223.html

    outstanding….im wonder when a bold american that is violated by one of these violent “illegals” to sue the government for them being released and not deported?

  86. thinkingmom11 Says:

    thank you slider – it worked. You are most helpful. I had to go watch the Lil O’reilly vid again! Still funny! Sent to my husband an he about cracked up…For those of you who haven’t had the pleasure:

  87. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    back sorry….. phone call

    Hi Ksinde

  88. Troy Says:

    Slider,
    I think that is already happening in California

  89. sliderblaze Says:

    troy,

    they need to, it seems that they are complacent in letting it happen

  90. Tenacity Says:

    Well, any thoughts on what old Sluggo turned up?

  91. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Geez Slider – first you make me laugh and then you make me cry. That article makes me sick and sad. I read just yesterday how another illegal in San Fran, CA (a criminal out free because SF is a “sanctuary” city) who killed a 14 yo kid. The article listed several other crimes illegals have committed in recent months…very sad and infuriating that our gov’t has done NOTHING to change the situation. This is my biggest beef with the Bush Admin.

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  93. sliderblaze Says:

    Tenacity, it just seems one more thing that doesnt make sense, just like sage saying she never wanted to shut down api, im not exactly sure what that proves anyway?

  94. Troy Says:

    Tenacity,
    No, I have no thoughts on that….If he wants to publish some real proof the fine.

  95. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Y’all have a great day. I will check back in later this PM. 🙂

  96. Troy Says:

    I saw something funny….I t was a solution to Illegal Immigration, the aftermath of Katrina and Floridians being killed by alligators.
    Solution:
    Dig a giant mote along the Mexican border, use all of the dirt to build bigger and beter levies in Louisiana and relocate all the gators to the mote….Lmaooo

  97. sliderblaze Says:

    http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/11/17/obama-advisor-lobbyist-who-undermined-fannie-oversight/

  98. Tenacity Says:

    The Sluggo tracking seems to show correspondence to TOF from API and not vice versa. It does seem to demonstrate communication, but that could be API looking (googling) for someone to talk to about the MO tape. It does not prove that TOF originated anything. It would be interesting if Korir would respond to this. Maybe he is lurking here.

  99. rosettasister Says:

    tucker822

    To all:

    Cartoon Pig Dog, on November 17th, 2008 at 2:10 pm Said:

    Yes, they are back, but I don’t think it will last. In case you didn’t catch all of the goings on at mountain sage, I was the one who actually got Sammy’s site closed down, although my intended target was really his fake “Rainbow Foundation”. As a long time supporter of the real Rainbow Foundation, I found it unacceptable to let this fake continue to draw donations from people using the name of a real charity to do so.

    But his new tripod site is already violating the TOS set down by tripod, so I doubt he will remain there for too long. He has a bad habit of copying and pasting articles from official news sites without giving proper credit or linking to the originals. It seems the guy has never written a single news article for his sites, he just copies other’s without permission.

    The only ones that are his, are the ones that talk about the tapes and the Imam with the birth certificate from Kenya, all other articles published by him belong to other sites.

    Can you say “Copyright infringement”?
    ———————————-

    Blogs do this sort of thing all the time.

    Unless there is a complaint from source, then I don’t see this going anywhere.

  100. Troy Says:

    Like I said earlier, it was very flimsy

  101. rosettasister Says:

    From a Friend:

    GEE – I wish I had fun yesterday!

    Good for you.

    There are a number of people who mr K sends stuff out to so all the conflict of the TRIPOD site being real seems to be resolved AND the fake API site is already closed down this morning.

    They will be sure to bring one back up I am sure.

    I think that **** mentioned who gave MS the stuff from ur blog – let me forward it.

    ———————–

    No- it was from someone else who watches both RS and MS;

    They said that a poster named “thedoctor” on RS said he had just gotten an email from Mr. K that told him the NAPI site was fake, and then went and posted over at MS.

    They may or may not have their facts right about ‘the doctor”

    BUT now u know to keep and eye on them

  102. Dianna Says:

    Rosettasister, I ask your indulgence here… I have posted this information on Mountain Sage’s blog, but the comment went into Moderation and then she deleted it. Her readers deserve to hear what I have to say, and a great many of them post and or lurk here. Given that Mountain Sage is engaging in exactly the same behavior she and so many others have complained so bitterly about… the deletion of posts, lack of free speech, etc ad nausium… I feel even more strongly about making the following statement. If only to expose her Hypocrisy. Apparently its ok for her to engage in the same behavior she and others on her blog are so very judgmental about in Mr. Korir and API, But of course we all know that it’s OK for THEM to do it! They have the righteous righteousness of being RIGHT!!! zOMG /sarcasm

    This is an FYI to anyone who may be interested.

    In response to rampant and completely incorrect rumors to the contrary, I have no intention of taking down Mountain Sage Blog, or be involved in any way with taking down any blog anywhere. Should Mountain Sage be taken down, or anyone else, it will be because of their own words and actions, and has exactly zero to do with me. I have no intention of reporting anyone for anything to anyone. Anyone who makes a statement about me to the contrary is either deliberately twisting words, Paranoid delusional, and or simply malicious. Yes, I am talking to you Cartoon Pig Dog, you really need to lay off the bud man, it’s really tweaking your thought processes out and you are going way far over to the paranoid side.
    I have threatened no one with anything. I have no intention of doing so. Anyone who makes a statement about me to the contrary is either deliberately twisting words, Paranoid delusional, and or simply malicious.

    Thank you for posting this Roesttasister! I appreciate your assistance in allowing me to straighten out the record, and be far more clear for the poor misled folks over at Mountain Sage, who are believing such fools as Cartoon Pig Dog and Sage herself.

    Dianna

  103. Tenacity Says:

    Well, I believe Cartoon PD picked a good handle for himself. At least he knows what he is.

  104. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    gets under my skin how they think they are the blog police. It is up to them to SAVE us and just like Ob they can use any means they want and feel justified.

  105. WannaBelieve Says:

    kmac,

    Checked into whether one of the ‘enemy’ had ownership of the africanpressinternational.com domain name.

    What I found is that the company is a domain speculation company that owns almost 21,000 domain names.

    They buy em up cheap and sell them to someone who wants/needs the domain name for a premium price.

    Hope this helps.

  106. sliderblaze Says:

    rosetta, i tried to make the same arguement to sage when she said that korir didnt source the things he posted from her site, i wanted to post, if you have a problem with it, let him know and i’m sure he’ll correct it, but like i said here before, the never posted that comment.

  107. Tenacity Says:

    Dianna,
    Did you see the letter Korir posted just before his original sight went down? It was by a “Obama Supporter.” It egged Mr K to ask you, Cindy & Cloud about the “Monkey already being in the boat.”

  108. Troy Says:

    Aren’t Hat Tips, when using another’s material on a blogsite just a common courtesy and not a law?

  109. flamineagle Says:

    I’m back with coffee!
    sliderblaze Says:
    November 17, 2008 at 6:14 pm

    outstanding….im wonder when a bold american that is violated by one of these violent “illegals” to sue the government for them being released and not deported?
    ____
    I’ll tell you my concerns. What if Obama is an illegal. All that would need to happen is a false flag event for Bush to declare Martial law, that would suspend the US Constitution, state of emergency including a few executive orders. The main stream media ( MSM) has already planted this possibly into the masses, google, Obama Warned of ‘Spectacular’ al-Qaeda Attack During Transition. I don’t think Bush would want to stay in office, but he could if he wanted to. Or Bush could quickly swear in Obama to take of Office of the US Presidency. Either way, a false flag event, or planned attack could get Obama into office whether Obama was eligible or not, since Martial law would suspend the constitution. And we all know how Obama defends illegals.

  110. sliderblaze Says:

    dianna,

    i concur and agree and have also pointed it out about the not posting dissenting opinions

  111. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Tenacity

    I have been thinking about that simce you asked me the same question last night.

    I do think it is a red herring. something to cause doubt and get others to turn on those they believe might know something. The so called inner circle

  112. rosettasister Says:

    Mr Korir “in the news” in Kenya.

    See also:

    http://nairobichronicle.wordpress.com/2008/11/17/kenyan-blog-closed-after-obama-tape-saga/

    http://www.breakingnewskenya.com/2008/11/17/kenyan-blog-closed-after-obama-tape-saga/

    http://www.kuwz.com/kenyan-blog-closed-after-obama-tape-saga.html

  113. sliderblaze Says:

    i for one found the “monkey” part to be a lil on the racist side.

  114. Dianna Says:

    Tenacity, no I haven’t. I only just now got through my email, and was fed up with the BS that I am getting from just about everywhere regarding MS’s stupid idiotic delusions of grandeur and importance, and Pig Dog is feeding her… and she is feeding him, its asinine at best. “Oh, my! Poor Me! Dianna is coming for me!” ROFLMAO Not that I mind being seen as a bad ass, I just like to have EARNED the reputation rather than having my name used by paranoid silly little people to make themselves look important enough to be “Taken down”. Its funny really. The whole “inner circle” is far more myth than it is reality! I don’t think there is ANYONE that Mr. K has confided in completely, certainly if he has its not to any group of friends that I talk to!

    I will go look at his site, thank you for the heads up!

    D

  115. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    sliderblaze
    hmmm I didn’t take it that way, but it could be.

    I took it as more of “a bag full of monkeys” meaning things that would cause chaos

  116. flamineagle Says:

    justanamericancindy4 Says:
    November 17, 2008 at 6:39 pm

    gets under my skin how they think they are the blog police. It is up to them to SAVE us and just like Ob they can use any means they want and feel justified.
    _____
    They remind me of Obama teams shutting down anti Obama blogs.

  117. sliderblaze Says:

    rosetta,

    i like how it was the Norwegian media began investigating his past? No mention at all about Sage, the spamming or the hacking of his website at all?

    now we can all know that the media cant really get anything right these days

  118. Dianna Says:

    Oh Rosettasister, as far as the kenya stuff goes, a friend pointed out to me that the Tribal relations thing in Kenya is behind a LOT of the negative things you see about Korir. Its not so much about him personally, it has more to do with tribal ploitics which make the conflict between Liberals and conservatives look like sand box squabbles. Or at least thats how it was described to me by a good friend who is Black and understands African Politics a whole heck of a lot better than I do. Apparently rival tribe members will take any opportunity to slam someone of a different rival tribe, and youhave to take that into account when reading anything out of Africa.

  119. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Dianna

    Did you catch the post over there about “a book”, a ‘report”, something to that affect, sage is writing with help in research from others there?

  120. sliderblaze Says:

    the inner circle came about from those of us who were there from the beginning of this calamity and those who ended up in the Dblog (even tho i went on vacation and came back to find out it became protected) as a result of people being malicous and rude on the posts as well as those who talked to and corresponding with mr korir directly.
    It just got ended up with that name cus people who came on later got a lot of info from them/us, simple as that

  121. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    I DO know one thing, after I posted over at MS. a few people even ksinde received an email from me that I never sent..

    That alone lets me know she passes on info even if she don’t use it herself.

  122. Troy Says:

    I heard mention of it over there Cindy

  123. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Dianna – I know what you mean. likeatrainwreck was all bent that I suggested she pat herself on the back – with an 8″ knife. She was suggesting that I had threatened her and that I was some sort of “thug.” I was cracking up reading what she wrote! She said she even took a screenshot of my comment for the “win” (whatever that means). I tried to comment and asked if she seriously thought I was threatening her and if she really thought that their behaviour was repectful as they were claiming BUT the ever-hypocritical Sage chose not to post my comments. I find all of them quite like silly children.

  124. sliderblaze Says:

    Dianna, that tribe thing is true, i had a coworker who was nigerian, and politics being my hobby, i asked him about african politics, he described to me the very same thing and even mentioned Kenya a lot of the times, inspired me to read the book, “Understanding the Political world” by James n danzinger, it even has africans on the front cover. good read

  125. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Troy

    I spent a lot of time over there reading, when I found the one that was cloning me came from there. (I figured out exactly who)

    But I did read that post about a book,….. really makes me wonder her true motives.

    need to look at my pdf’s … to find it again….. I have a list of everone there and all of their posts… Many posts disappear if they give away too much information

  126. sliderblaze Says:

    thinning mom 🙂

    the children argument has been well made and documented here….we all cant be wrong

  127. Dianna Says:

    Yea I did, and those people are out of hand. I mean they are literally making a huge thing out of nothing. Why I am not sure, but it sure smells like a deliberate smear attempt. I mean why else would they be using information from members of a Rival tribe that hate Mr. K’s tribe? To Africans, they don’t really see themselves as Kenyan or Nigerian, they see themselves as members of their own tribe first and foremost. That being said, if the MS people are deliberately using information from people that are of Rival tribes to Mr. K’s tribe, what does that tell us? It tells us that they are deliberately trying to make Mr. K Look bad. Why? If his story is fake? Why not let it die a lonely death instead of making it their mission in life to “Take him down” using any means necessary? Makes no sense unless its a deliberate smear campaign. I wonder who would have a stake in discrediting Mr. K? Obama perhaps?

    Or is it just simple Racisim? I mean it seems as if most of these people are white on MS blog, Mr K is black and from Africa, and for certain they see Mr. K as something less than human and deserving of at leasst that basic respect. Couple that with the comments like “monkies in a rowboat” and it sure LOOKS racist doesn’t it?

    Man, I really do pity those folks over there. They have been spun up to pity a group of people who are really at the basis of it, remaining open minded about the tape. Some believe they exist some are just waiting to see what happens. But somehow that gets spun into being fools, delusional, or at best misled…. what about what they are doing? They are subtly playing race cards and maligning people who have literally done nothing wrong, and then trying to make it all look like a crime…. “Oh! I am so important I am calling the FBI on Korir!” Good Lord, give me a break. They really need to take a long look in the mirror if you ask me. They are doing what they accuse others of, in an effort to disguise what they are doing. Thats just immature at best. At worst, its a deliberate smear campaign more like what was done to Joe the Plumber than it is related to the truth.

    D

  128. jonathanwrightesq Says:

    lol

    Joe the plumber. Good one.

    Mr. Korir is a scammer. I am not from MS blog orginally just the lengths he went to carry on the scam is amazing. That is what is so humorous about it.

  129. jonathanwrightesq Says:

    I should stop typing and hitting post so quickly.

    Meant I am not from MS but posted on API because of the lengths…

  130. WannaBelieve Says:

    (Personal To You)

    Rosettasister,

    This is NOT intended for the forum, but just a quick message to you.

    I would appreciate your releasing my earlier post from moderation. It contained some information gained through research in response to someone’s comment on blocking Mr K by denying him his domain name.

    I have been on and off API since the beginning, linking from WND, but only posting infrequently. I would appreciate the opportunity to join your blog community.

    I tend to have a logical manner of looking at / questioning things and so long as fact based discourse is encouraged, I will look forward to occasionally participating in discussions.

    I have questioned Mr K on things on his old site…when it seemed there were holes in his story or asking for sources for claims that seemed to be unlikely (being kind here). hehehe

    I have enjoyed reading your expose on one of the insiders and wanted you to know that I admired your resolution in seeking out the truth.

    That too is my forte, attempting to ferret out the truth…whatever it may turn out to be.

    /rant.

    Regards,

    Bryan

  131. sliderblaze Says:

    MS = megalomaniacs

    ESQ, if he had no financial gain from us, how is that a scam?

  132. jonathanwrightesq Says:

    I am not sure what the long of this is and why I am so curious in watching it play out.

    One theory:

    I have read that Mr. Berg confirmed to hearing a few seconds of fuzzy audio. He perhaps is trying to sell some sort of audio recording (unverfied and from any source) to someone to release. The longer he pulls this story along the more hope he may have in someone offering $ to buy the audio. Much like the bigfoot scam a while back make enough people believe someone will offer cash for the source document which in this case will be 100% fake.

  133. ddlew Says:

    http://svcs.tripod.lycos.com/svcs/dcc.jsp?tpage=upub:index.html&dsrc=gb:133131982496249959/DS_TLXGuestbook_1226943382609.xml&partner=tripod&pcon=yes&xsl=dccfile:gb.xsl&obpp=7l7qxM5a2srUysTo0szYzlLOXrDizsrG7lLOVu5SzMTi1sLM0OTqxuY.&ret_url=http://africanpress.tripod.com/index.html&page=1

    Oh look Cindy. I see you have already signed Korir’s guest book. 🙂

  134. sliderblaze Says:

    ESQ, whomever buys something without complete verification i.e. bigfoot should have their head examined

  135. WannaBelieve Says:

    ummmmm…..ooooooops? ; )

  136. jonathanwrightesq Says:

    Of course…

    But as P.T Barnum said….. There is a sucker born…

  137. WannaBelieve Says:

    Ok, inquiring minds just wanna know. What is the D-Blog and how do I get one? ; )

  138. Dianna Says:

    Jonathan… um if its a hoax why are you wasting what appears to be such valuable time on it and on those “Stupid or misled” enough to stay open minded about it?

  139. sliderblaze Says:

    ESQ, isnt that the truth, apparntly there were 63 million of them over the last couple of decades….lol j/k

  140. sliderblaze Says:

    wanna bleve

    it requires surgery lol

  141. jonathanwrightesq Says:

    It is fascinating and funny.

    It passes some down time between work. That is all.

  142. sliderblaze Says:

    Dianna, Democrats are quick to be unpatient, history has taught us this…..no offense to dems lol

  143. flamineagle Says:

    Dianna Says:
    November 17, 2008 at 6:54 pm

    Tenacity, no I haven’t. I only just now got through my email, and was fed up with the BS that I am getting from just about everywhere regarding MS’s stupid idiotic delusions of grandeur and importance, and Pig Dog is feeding her… and she is feeding him, its asinine at best. “Oh, my! Poor Me! Dianna is coming for me!” ROFLMAO Not that I mind being seen as a bad ass, I just like to have EARNED the reputation rather than having my name used by paranoid silly little people to make themselves look important enough to be “Taken down”. Its funny really. The whole “inner circle” is far more myth than it is reality! I don’t think there is ANYONE that Mr. K has confided in completely, certainly if he has its not to any group of friends that I talk to!

    I will go look at his site, thank you for the heads up!

    D
    ____
    I think you summed up MS and pig dog very well! I noticed right after my comment to her, her boot licking minions were upset that “Flamineagle’s BS post” was allowed to go through, but there arse kissing/boot licking post to MS was still in moderation. Soon after that she really started censoring posts, and only posted those that agreed with her. Have you even seen the movie called “The Mist” by Steven King? Well MS reminds me of Mrs. Carmody. Mrs. Carmody is an extreme woman of religious convictions, to the point of vanity and insanity that quickly has a cult like following with a angry mob mentality who decides who should live or die in their own little world. Mrs. Carmody can not see her own sins and faults, just everyone else’s. She does not practice what she preaches. The mist represents mystery and how humanity confronts things they don’t understand. There is a degeneration as we wrestle with the unknown and come to the limits of our ability to control things. “it ain’t my fault” refrain as we frantically point the finger of blame everywhere but at ourselves. Times of trying and testing can reveal an ugly side to our nature, often resorting to “the mob mentality” when we fear the unknown, or don’t have any control over a situation. I seen people like MS and her followers turn ugly, when they couldn’t control things at API. It’s the nature of mankind, but not everyone gets that way thank goodness. If there was ever an real life emergency, earthquake, Hurricane, ect. I would not want to be anywhere near people like Mrs. Carmody, MS and their followers.
    “let he who is without sin, cast the first stone”

  144. sliderblaze Says:

    “let he who is without sin, cast the first stone and i’ll show you a liar” should be more like it

  145. Stacy Says:

    I have a dumb question for all the regulars here…

    Why isn’t API dealing with a show like Jeff Rense, Coast to Coast, Patriot Brigade, etc.?

    Does anyone know the answer to this question?

    I mean, Larry Sinclair has been on Rense’s show about 20 times now to great effect. And Philip Berg has been on Alex Jones, Patriot Brigade and many others.

    These shows have millions of listeners, so why isn’t API ON THESE SHOWS PLAYING THE TAPE?

    It makes no sense at all to me. Anyone have any thoughts?

  146. Ksinde. Says:

    Dianna or Rosetta,

    I am trying to play catch up… Do you feel that the tripod site is the real Korir’s or do you think that it is a fake site?

  147. Dianna Says:

    d-blog is just my own personal private blog. There is nothing mysterious just a group of people that really just want to talk to one another with out idiots like show-watchr and cartoon pig dog harassing them. Seriously they, or I, don’t know anything more than any of you do. Its just a place where people can comment freely and discuss things with out getting into antagonistic battles about it is all.

    Sorry to pop the mystery inner circle bubble.

  148. sliderblaze Says:

    flamineagle great movie reference by the way, in the absence of real leadership, people will follow anybody, no matter how crazy. brings me back to the, “people will get in a line, even if they dont now what the are in line for”

  149. Dianna Says:

    Ksinde, its real. The location of it came to me second hand from Mr. K.

  150. Ksinde. Says:

    Thanks Dianna, you just can not be sure anymore:( Do you feel that the sources that confirmed it to you are 100% on the up and up? I will take your word on it without a doubt if you feel it was on the up and up.

  151. Dianna Says:

    Flamineagle, I have to agree with you. You should see the email that Sage sent me when she found I had posted here. Its rather ugly, and my reply wasn’t exactly kind in return. But unlike her I freely admit I am a B I T C H. I will be just about anyone’s best friend and be very very loyal in that, but at the same time if you cross me, slander me or otherwise rub my fur backwards as she has, well you will get the picture. I am a Leo, what can I say…

  152. Tenacity Says:

    Sry, I actually had to do some work (God Forbid).

    Korir gained a good deal of respect from me when he posted his complete bio. If anyone should write a book or screenplay it is him. He did not hide from any of the accusations that I have seen on the web. His explanations are viable. He has represented himself as a man of God. At this juncture, whether he is fulla-bulla or not, I say he deserves the benefit of the doubt. As I said to him directly, shame on me if he turns out to be a con…it won’t be the first time I was wrong. I am no blind follower and I will not be surprised when he lets us all down. It’s just that his openness about his own background and his attitude of forgiveness speaks loudly to me. I have dealt with more than my share of cons. They were all likeable. They all had ability and could have been successful if they had just played straight. I usually make my decisions on how the pros and cons stack up, but there is something about Korir that gives me a glimmer of hope. He knows that the hope he has given to people on this issue is important and he seems to have a conscious about it. Yes, my head says the guy is a fraud, but I am going to see where this leads.

  153. WannaBelieve Says:

    Dianna,

    Oh, how you burst my bubble. I had postulated ALL the possibilities beginning in “D” for a blog. Dianna, regretfully wasn’t on my radar…lol.

    Thanks for the info.

    And to slider? On the surgery. You lied. I just can’t believe it!

  154. sliderblaze Says:

    the bio info helped out

    MS wanted him to respond to a lot of things they dug up about his past and he did, since they didnt like what he said/wrote, the continued the onslaught like spoiled lil brats

  155. flamineagle Says:

    justanamericancindy4 Says:
    November 17, 2008 at 7:03 pm

    I DO know one thing, after I posted over at MS. a few people even ksinde received an email from me that I never sent..

    That alone lets me know she passes on info even if she don’t use it herself.
    _____
    Dianna Says:
    November 17, 2008 at 7:43 pm

    Flamineagle, I have to agree with you. You should see the email that Sage sent me when she found I had posted here. Its rather ugly, and my reply wasn’t exactly kind in return. But unlike her I freely admit I am a B I T C H. I will be just about anyone’s best friend and be very very loyal in that, but at the same time if you cross me, slander me or otherwise rub my fur backwards as she has, well you will get the picture. I am a Leo, what can I say…
    _____
    I have received so much spam since I posted over there, I’m sure I will get even more after my Mrs. Carmody cult comparison, lol
    I don’t care, it’s just my junk email addy, and I set it to send all junk to my spam box.

  156. sliderblaze Says:

    well….not totally, dblog is protected one would have to perform some web surgery to access it.

    was that a joke that went wary?

  157. Tenacity Says:

    Stacy,
    Korir is very savvy in some ways and totally naive in others. You would think an online news person would have resources without asking its viewers about what to do next. I believe it had to do with a lack of confidence dealing with a U.S. issue. It looks like he was a bit intimidated by the unknown. It was very hard for me to accept that an attorney at Fox would dare block a tape from getting to the talking heads. I still struggle with that…it just doesn’t compute for me. Yeah…so she was a BO donater…still too much risk for her to take. It is just not believeable. If that tape ever does see the light of day, she will have some serious ‘splainin’ to do.

  158. Tenacity Says:

    did I miss the call for lunch break?

  159. flamineagle Says:

    I don’t know Tenacity, I just know how Lawyers work, and how long they tend to delay things, especially if they have a large case load with many other clients and court dates. Therefore to coin a phrase, “the wheels of justice turn exceedingly slow”

    As far as fox news is concerned, I have never trusted them as “fair and balanced” as they claim to be. I have seen how they slanted their news reports at the protests marches during the RNC and DNC rallies.

  160. flamineagle Says:

    Yeah, lol It must be lunch, or dinner time?

  161. Dianna Says:

    Slider, the security there from WOrdpress is pretty good.

    I did go so far as to have that checked out. But nothing on earth is truely secure. And oif more than two people know a secret, then its no longer a secret.

    D

    Yea sorry wannabelieve… it was so obvious to me that it didn’t occur to me that anyone would even wonder let along care, the name just got shortened for the sake of convenience.

  162. Troy Says:

    The owner of Fox News, Rupert Murdoch, is a left wing liberal.
    He instructed the top dog at Fox News, Mr. Ailes, to back off on anti-Obama reporting towards the end of the election…That’s a fact!!

  163. Tenacity Says:

    Flamin,
    I saw some of what they reported on protests. How did you see the slant?

  164. Tenacity Says:

    Troy,
    It seemed that way to me. O’Reilly was the one that was most obvious to me. It seemed like Hannity was the only one that kept up the drum beat.

  165. jonathanwrightesq Says:

    Wait Rupert Murdoch is a liberal?

    That is rich.

  166. Troy Says:

    Yep…A flaming liberal

  167. flamineagle Says:

    Tenacity Says:
    November 17, 2008 at 8:11 pm

    Flamin,
    I saw some of what they reported on protests. How did you see the slant?
    ___
    one reporter went into the group while they marched down the street. None of the people wanted to talk to Fox news man, and they all ignored him, and some chanted F. Fox News. Anyways they guy got pushed a side, then the main Fox reporters came on saying these people are unruley, and call the riot police.
    Griff Jenkins Fox News not welcomed among the street crowds.

    Democratic National Convention. Maybe youtube “Griff Jenkins and Fox News ATTACKED at DNC Protests” It’s been awhile since I first watched it, but many dont care for Fox news.

  168. Ksinde. Says:

    What i don’t understand is why it is taking so long to release the tapes if they are real. I am finding it hard to believe that any of the mess that has happened, ie. hacking, spamming, cloning ect. has anything to do with the releasing of the tapes. In my eyes all the hacking and such only interfered with the expanding of his website.

    The devil on my shoulder is telling me that it is all about the hits to the website which equals advertising profits. People were starting to get antsy at api wordpress. We were starting to question if the tapes were real, we had enough (not all, but most of his supporters). So did he hurry up and make a move to create a new website that allows advertising while we were still holding on to hope of the tapes and in turn carring us (us meaning hit numbers) over to the new site?

    Ughhh, who knows anything for sure… I certainly don’t.

  169. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Ksinde

    we had almost identical views on the tapes…. “hoped” but had our eyes open.

    I do not know what to think anymore to be honest.

  170. Ksinde. Says:

    I really do hope the tapes are real and i am wrong in my thinking. the angel on my shoulder tells me that i have no idea how contracts and the mbo works behind the scene. that maybe there is a bo machine working against the release of the tapes. look at how bo has ran his campaign>so shady and slick and breaking rules.

  171. WannaBelieve Says:

    wary? how very!

    I’ll try to make it funnier next time!

  172. flamineagle Says:

    Griff Jenkins, this youtube, “Anti-War Protesters Menace Intrepid Fox News Reporter!” Griff was surprised these protesters didn’t like Obama. Just because the crowd was chanting against Fox/Faux news, Griff said the crowd is out of control, then the woman reporter says they crowd was out of control too, lol Believe me, they haven’t seen an out of control crowd, lol
    I couldn’t find all the RNC and DNC rallies vids, but you get the idea why many people feel Fox news is a government controlled MSM, fascists and full of propaganda.

  173. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Ohh Stevo11 at MS

    sticking out my paranoid tongue
    _____________

    stevo11
    November 17, 2008 at 3:05 pm
    Hi All.

    The tape zombies over at pumpkinheads new found rose colored home have lost their minds!!!!

    They believe Sage is a bleeding heart liberal, hell bent on destroying their Great Pumpkinhead and his effort to tell the truth about the MO tape….lol If it wasn’t so delusional is would be hysterical!

    They even came up with this new theory that since everyone here is presumably white, and of course Korir being black, we are all now a bunch of racists! … “Don’t they know Mr. Korir is just a human being”…..cried one cult member…. it’s amazing how they still call pumpkinhead “Mr”…. a sign of true respect for this honest hardworking dedicated truther.

    It gets better, yesterday I made a joke in one of my posts about a “Cindy”. It seems this tape zombie named “Cindy” has become so paranoid and delusional that everyday someone is out there cloning her. When she is not busy being self consumed with her cloning delusions, she is sneaking around here making up lists of names to post on her beloved Pumpkinheadpress international site. You may even recall seeing your own name on the list of pumpkinhead offenders.

    So anyway, I made a post, using the comical little twist about her paranoid cloning delusions and her secret little API offender list, and now, VOILA -I too am now guilty of “cloning” here… lmao…. There is an obot around every corner it seems, and I can’t help but wonder if they are peeking out their curtains every 10 minutes looking for one.

    Cartoon has made there newest hit list, but to be honest, only a few are suffering from these delusions. I counted 6 or 7, the others seem to understand that pumpkinhead hacked his own blog when the clock struck 12 and he had no tape, or maybe it was cloud or maybe the infamous circle of 12. But there are definitely a few who still believe the tape is real and the Obama squad hired Sage to destroy the API blog, then steal the tape and tie pumpkinhead to a chair for interrogation… those poor, poor “tape zombies”.

    Maybe we should all pitch in and send them some flowers to break the hostilities?

  174. flamineagle Says:

    I think this was just updated?
    http://africanpress.tripod.com/id21.html

    “The only thing API can say, have said and will say is that it has entered a contract with a MBO.”

    Who is MBO? Is that Michelle Barack Obama?

  175. justanamericancindy4 Says:

    Ksinde

    could you tell me in that email you received that supposed to have came from me.

    did it have ” dove……. 1966 or sharp” anywhere in the user name…
    when I had to switch names I also had to change emails….. I was just wanting to know which one was compromised

  176. WannaBelieve Says:

    “It looks like he was a bit intimidated by the unknown.”

    Tenacity, I too thought this to be the case, until I read his autobiography. Having a mid/upper level government official at home, to being an agent in the secret police in Norway and in charge of interrogations to determine truth of immigrants’ origins has changed my belief.

    How is it possible that such a resourceful and powerful individual becomes unpowerful? Unless that is the strategy. It’s often called passive aggressiveness. Achieve one’s aims by acting as if one doesn’t know or is uncertain.

    Seems, whether or not this is actually the case…whatever it is has worked, has it not?

    But my question is with a $500,000 infusion of capital, why is this man doing his own web design on a free website?

  177. Tenacity Says:

    My initial contacts with Korir was to hold him accountable and give a since of urgency. It kept me out of the “inner circle.” I have made offers to assist him and I have only gotten polite thank yous and nothing more. I suggested that his complete story would interest me and he posted his bio (perhaps coencidence). I complimented his bio and again a polite but distant response. If the tape doesn’t show up by this weekend, I will be back on the accountability team. Don’t worry, I won’t be dumb like the low-lifes at MS. That’s right, if you are lurking, I believe your actions to be dumb and low. I don’t mind them being good investigaters, its the smearing and spamming that I find despicable. Not to mention the racists and foul remarks.

  178. tucker822 Says:

    This is the latest at API’s newest site. I wonder what MS has to say about this? There’s about 30 of them that are exactly the same:

    submitted on November 17, 2008 9:39 PM CET
    Name: usa1776
    Email Address: nigger@nigger.com
    Web site URL:
    Comments: NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGERNIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGERNIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGERNIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGERNIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER

  179. Stacy Says:

    Yes, and you might as well count FOX News as “in the tank” for Obama along with all the other MSM, as their reporting on him has been so “soft” since the election.

    I know exactly why the Fox Counsel (and Obama contributor) withheld the tape. You don’t get THAT job (counsel) unless you’re playing on one team and one team only – the Illuminati’s. THAT’S Murdoch’s team.

    They control both sides of this “theater” and she did exactly as she was told.

    That is why the ONLY way the tape will ever see the light of day is through an alternative media source.

  180. Ksinde. Says:

    cindy,

    i will check when i get back, have to step out right now.

  181. Tenacity Says:

    Flamin,
    I assumed MBO meant Major Broadcast Outlet. Anyone for sure what the acronym stands for.

  182. flamineagle Says:

    So it wouldn’t surprise me at all if Fox news sat on this tape till after the elections, and turned it over to Obama, SS, or any of the other alphabet agencies to start a campaign to discredit Mr. Korir.

  183. Ksinde. Says:

    yes> Major Broadcast Oultet

  184. flamineagle Says:

    Tenacity Says:
    November 17, 2008 at 8:46 pm

    Flamin,
    I assumed MBO meant Major Broadcast Outlet. Anyone for sure what the acronym stands for.
    ____
    I’m not sure what the MBO acronym is suppose to me either.
    Here is a small list of what MBO could mean.:)

    MBO Michelle Barack Obama
    MBO Major Broadcast Outlet
    MBO Management By Objectives
    MBO Management Buy-Out
    MBO Middelbaar Beroepsonderwijs
    MBO Million Barrels of Oil
    MBO Mamburao, Philippines (Airport Code)
    MBO Management and Budget Office
    MBO Market-Based Organization
    MBO Marathon.bungie.org
    MBO Managed Business Outcomes (Melbourne, Australia)
    MBO Motor Burn Out
    MBO Machine Builder of Oppenweiler (German company that builds mostly buckle folders and knife folders)
    MBO Major Business Objective
    MBO Message Backout Table
    MBO Microsoft Back Office

    Your guess is as good as mine at this point.

  185. Tenacity Says:

    WBelieve,
    Yes, that all crossed between the ears. I thought I saw a post that indicated he was working on his own www site. The tripod site may just be a temporary fix until launch. He would thus be using some of what he has prepared to somewhat upgrade the temp free site.

  186. rosettasister Says:

    Tucker822
    2008/11/17 at 8:42 PM

    I’m sorry I really don’t know what to make of you.

    I posted one of your earlier comments.

    Then a second, then I deleted the second.

    If I made a mistake, I am sorry.

    There seems to be a variety of divergent opinions here.

    We just don’t anyone with malicious intent.

    Peace

    Rose

  187. flamineagle Says:

    sliderblaze Says:
    November 17, 2008 at 7:38 pm

    flamineagle great movie reference by the way, in the absence of real leadership, people will follow anybody, no matter how crazy. brings me back to the, “people will get in a line, even if they dont now what the are in line for”
    _____
    Thanks:) and yes in a crisis or when they dont have control or leadership, some people can get real ugly. That was a great movie, but a very, very sad ending!
    Steven Spielbergs, War of the Worlds also showed what people will do, and how they will group together, good against bad, dog eat dog, everyman for themselves. In both those two movies, the Aliens didn’t scare me, as much as the mob mentality did! Some people we more uglier, and scarier than the monsters were! But some were good too:)

  188. drsharonschuetz Says:

    I thought you might enjoy this. I just received it in an email.

    There’s an old sea story about a Marine lieutenant who inspected his men in the field, and told the ‘Gunny’ that his men smelled bad. The lieutenant suggested that the men should change underwear. The Gunny responded, ‘Aye, aye, Sir. I’ll see to it immediately!’

    The Gunny went straight to the squad tent and announced, ‘The lieutenant thinks you guys stink, and wants you to change your underwear. Smith, you change, with Jones. McCarthy, you change with Witkowsky. Brown, you change with Schultz. Now get to it!’

    The moral of this story: A candidate may promise ‘change’ in Washington, but don’t count on things smelling any better

  189. Foxtrot Says:

    Ksinde–don’t get all shy on us now! Many of us feel the same way you do. WE have every right to doubt the existence of the tape. We all wanted it to be true, but promise after promise has been broken by Mr. Korir.
    You are all doing it again! You are taking the word of Dianna, who we don’t even know anything about, and believing that what she is saying is Gospel! Are you all forgetting that we all listened to her, Meg and Cloud on the API site and it got us no where? My God, what will it take to wake you all up. If Dianna did in fact talk to Mr. Korir about validating the new API website, did she also bother to ask the ONLY pertinent question of “WHEN IS THE TAPE, IF THERE IS ANY, GOING TO BE RELEASED?” Or, here’s a good one, “How come it is taking the Imam two weeks to come forward with the birth information?” Come on gang! We are more intelligent than this! It is getting ridiculous! Release the tape and provide the Imam and I will eat my hat!!!

  190. Tenacity Says:

    Rosetta,
    Thanks for letting us hang out here, providing good information and keeping the chaff at bay.

  191. tucker822 Says:

    I understand, rosettasister, and I don’t blame you. I’ve been following the API/MO tapes/Imam BC for quite a while and I’ve been very upset with what has happened to Mr. Korir. I’ve been lurking at your site and stumbled on the MS site recently and was appalled at what I read there. I don’t know if all of what is going on at API is true or not, but am a firm believer in the benefit of the doubt. I’m also following the BC lawsuits all over the US, in particular the one from Keyes filed in CA recently. I mean no harm. I just wanted to let people here know that API is being attacked again by the same people and it really makes me mad.

  192. flamineagle Says:

    Ksinde. Says:
    November 17, 2008 at 8:48 pm

    yes> Major Broadcast Oultet
    ____
    Heheh I kinda liked the MBO=Major Burn Out acronym myself. Thats what I sure feel like these days!

  193. Foxtrot Says:

    Our efforts and energy should be put on the multiple lawsuits challenging Obama’s citizenship, as well as contacting the Electors to make them aware of the skepticism of Obama’s place of birth/citizenship.

  194. Foxtrot Says:

    Rosetta, I have followed/read your website religiously for months now. At one point you even stated that if proof didn’t come from Korir “this time” than you would not mention API again. Do you know something I don’t about this?

  195. tucker822 Says:

    Foxtrot, I agree completely. I truly believe we are on the verge of a Constitution crisis and this needs to be resolved!

  196. Tenacity Says:

    Foxt,
    I asked those Qs until I was blue in the face. I called K on his failed commitments directly. I backed off because of all the spamming and because he answered the accusations leveled at his past. Soon (and I mean it) the truth will have the light shone upon it one way or the other. I will be there to see the truth one way or the other.

  197. Foxtrot Says:

    You know the old saying . . . “if it walks like a duck, and it talks like a duck–it is a duck!” Korir is clearly a duck! I simply cannot believe anyone would believe a word he says at this point. He has not offered ANY evidence he claimed he would for months now. I truly believe he shut down his own site because he could not keep going with the lies anymore. Thanks Tenacity and Tucker—two voices of reason among the zombies who will continue to follow regardless of the lack of proof.

  198. Tenacity Says:

    Foxt & Tuck,
    I have written all my representatives in Colorado. I also wrote Bill Frist and asked him about the Tennessee (my home state) delegates joining a suit. I forward reports and ask people to get active all over the U.S. and my nephew in Nigeria (Oil Co exec). What else can we do? I am stocking my ammunition and mid-range food supply before That One assumes the thown.

  199. Tenacity Says:

    Gee, I need spell check.

  200. flamineagle Says:

    Foxtrot Says:
    November 17, 2008 at 9:03 pm

    Our efforts and energy should be put on the multiple lawsuits challenging Obama’s citizenship, as well as contacting the Electors to make them aware of the skepticism of Obama’s place of birth/citizenship.
    ________
    Yes there are several now in many states! At least eight known, Hawaii, Washington, California, Florida, Georgia. Pennsylvania, New York and Connecticut, and Philadelphia. But there could be more.

    But again, we are dealing with the court system, and it could be delayed too. I have had court cases, one settlement took 2 long years, and I was told that was very fast! Obama should have been challenged when he was running for senator! I mean Obama was elected to the Senate in 2004 right, and spent only two years in the Senate before hitting the presidential campaign trail! He just came outta no where at a lightning fast speed! I didn’t even think he would get this far with little to no experience! Somethings very wrong with this picture!

  201. sliderblaze Says:

    stevo11

    i see they are still stuck on this inner circle thing lol I think it was them that prolly coined that phrase

  202. flamineagle Says:

    tucker822 Says:
    November 17, 2008 at 9:08 pm

    Foxtrot, I agree completely. I truly believe we are on the verge of a Constitution crisis and this needs to be resolved!
    _____
    Yes, I truly believe we are on the verge of a Constitution crisis too, but I think it is far bigger than we think.
    pasted from my reply above.
    ____
    “I’ll tell you my concerns. What if Obama is an illegal. All that would need to happen is a false flag event for Bush to declare Martial law, & that would suspend the US Constitution, under a state of emergency including a few executive orders. The main stream media ( MSM) has already planted this possibly into the masses, google, Obama Warned of ‘Spectacular’ al-Qaeda Attack During Transition. I don’t think Bush would want to stay in office, but he could if he wanted to. Or Bush could quickly swear in Obama to take the Office of the US Presidency. Either way, a false flag event, or planned attack could get Obama into office whether Obama was eligible or not, since Martial law would suspend the constitution! “

  203. Tenacity Says:

    Foxt,
    I have found numerous voices of reason here…that’s why I am sticking around. That and Rosetta does a good job of moderating.

  204. Troy Says:

    Eagle,
    MBO = Media Broadcasting Outlet

  205. flamineagle Says:

    Tenacity Says:
    November 17, 2008 at 9:17 pm

    Gee, I need spell check.
    _____
    Thats why I use Fire Fox as my browser, lol
    It checks my spelling for me. Now all I need is a grammar checker;)

  206. Tenacity Says:

    Troy,
    Well, I was close.

  207. sliderblaze Says:

    foxtrot, name calling, not here my man, or women, we here, unlike sage, have differing opinions and different patience and tolerance levels, to belittle someone who does not agree with you is reserved over at MS’s website.

  208. Foxtrot Says:

    Tenacity–that is why I stick around as well. I also want to make sure everyone is contacting their U.S. representatives/Senators to ask them to look into Obama’s citizenship. This guy is like a “mystery man”! He hasn’t revealed anything to the voters. Everything is locked up tighter than a drum. I am most afraid of his strong-arm tactics. I am very afraid for America right now.

  209. flamineagle Says:

    Troy Says:
    November 17, 2008 at 9:23 pm

    Eagle,
    MBO = Media Broadcasting Outlet
    _____
    Yeah they told me, lol I was just including my short list of other possibilities of what it could be too. I tried a little humor, but I guess I failed.
    MBO= My Bad Ops!

  210. sliderblaze Says:

    i use firefox too, but, i like it but it keeps reminding me of the fact that i cant spell anymore

  211. Foxtrot Says:

    No name calling—just the facts! Using an expression such as “walk like a duck” is just that—an expression. Even though Obama is our President elect, last time I checked, we still have a little thing called Freedom of Speech and I intend to use it to wake up everyone to hear my cry to expose Obama! If a few are slightly offended along the way, so be it! The Constitution is far more important than a few bruised egos!

  212. rosettasister Says:

    tucker822 Says:
    November 17, 2008 at 9:02 pm

    I understand, rosettasister, and I don’t blame you. I’ve been following the API/MO tapes/Imam BC for quite a while and I’ve been very upset with what has happened to Mr. Korir.

    I’ve been lurking at your site and stumbled on the MS site recently and was appalled at what I read there.

    I don’t know if all of what is going on at API is true or not, but am a firm believer in the benefit of the doubt. I’m also following the BC lawsuits all over the US, in particular the one from Keyes filed in CA recently.

    I mean no harm. I just wanted to let people here know that API is being attacked again by the same people and it really makes me mad.

    —————————-

    okay thanks for answering

    I appreciate that.

  213. Tenacity Says:

    If BO takes the thrown, 4 years from now MBO will mean massive burn out.

  214. sliderblaze Says:

    the ‘tape zombies” get real dude, no bruised ego’s either, we keep it civil and avoid name calling here amongst each other. no need to wake us up either, we are fully awake here

  215. Foxtrot Says:

    I think Obama knows he may be in trouble. Haven’t you noticed how subdued he and Michelle have been lately? Even his election night speech was lackluster and cautious. I think he realizes that it will only take one MSM outlet to run the citizenship story relentlessly and he will be found out. I bet he has cold sweats at night just thinking about it. I know I would. Especially since he has to answer to the Supreme Court/Berg case on or before December 1st. It will be an interesting ride in the next couple of weeks!

  216. sliderblaze Says:

    foxtrot, dont take offense to it, we are massively burnt out on those who are trying to wake us up, we all are dealing with the skepticism of api. we are all adults here and form our own opinions. i’m not gonna look down or name drop on someone who believes the tapes are more real than what i do

  217. momintexas Says:

    I just wanted to pop in and say a quick good afternoon! I am trying to read up the past couple of days post! Glad many are over here! I’m going back to reading now! 🙂

  218. Tenacity Says:

    Foxt,
    A lot is now known about BO, but it doesn’t seem to wake anyone up.

    His grandmother testifies he was born in Kenya.
    He was a member of a known socialist group in the 90s and left it just before running for state senate.
    He was a known drug user until 2002 if not beyond.
    Everyone has heard his associations with Ayers, Rezco, Flaeger, & Wright.

  219. flamineagle Says:

    Foxtrot Says:
    November 17, 2008 at 9:12 pm

    You know the old saying . . . “if it walks like a duck, and it talks like a duck–it is a duck!” Korir is clearly a duck! I simply cannot believe anyone would believe a word he says at this point. He has not offered ANY evidence he claimed he would for months now. I truly believe he shut down his own site because he could not keep going with the lies anymore. Thanks Tenacity and Tucker—two voices of reason among the zombies who will continue to follow regardless of the lack of proof.
    _____
    Zombie! Well that wasn’t very nice! Where have I heard that before…Humm let me think for a minute….MS!

    Well I have to go take my dogs out for a walk. I have a Blue American Pittbull Terrier, and a Chihuahua…….

    brb

  220. Foxtrot Says:

    Okay, sliderblaze, run to your mommy now! Maybe she can put a bandaid on your boo-boo! Who died and left you site monitor? I have been posting on this site for months now. Unlike you, I can cut through the crap to see the real story or intention of someone’s comments. Grow a thicker skin “DUDE” ! This isn’t about YOU, it is about getting the truth revealed about Obama. “Mellow” hasn’t worked up to now–it is time for action and harsh realities. We need to protect the Constitution.

  221. tucker822 Says:

    Tenacity, that’s GREAT! I’ve written to ALL of the SC justices and voiced my concerns. We need to keep up the pressure. I wish this would hit the MSM, but have my doubts. I know it hit one ABC affiliate and read about it on a forum, but it is only one. This needs to go viral, IMO.

  222. sliderblaze Says:

    lol, spoken like a true asshole…..yes republicans can be assholes to….DUDE, i dont need saved, no by obama, not by my mommy and certainly NOT BY YOU!!!! You think we need you to tell us what we should think and causes we should persue, the the F#@K over yourself, you died and left YOU our savour?

  223. Foxtrot Says:

    flamineagle–wow, are you serious? I can pick any thousand words and find them on any website. The word zombie has long since been associated with those of the “living dead”–those who would follow blindly. Get real! I have three sites I religiously go to: Larry Sinclair’s, Rosetta’s, and No Quarter (and up until it’s demise, I went to API once a day). If you start picking out single words and associating them with something else, you really do believe in conspiracy theories and Santa Claus!

  224. Tenacity Says:

    Continued from last post…I didn’t hit submit.
    BO may have had a sexual encounter with Sinclair.
    He may have some connection with the assassination of the gay choir director at Trinity United Church of C who reportedly had an affair w/BO.
    He campaigned for Odinga travelling on our tax dollars.
    He may have colluded with Odinga to create civil unrest in Kenya to give Odinga power in spite of losing the election.
    ACORN
    He blew millions on a failed radicalization of students program with Ayers.
    He has voted beyond leftist nearly 100% of the time.
    and on and on and on.

  225. sliderblaze Says:

    i tried to be nice but, look where it gets you. so much for being civil in here, throwing insults is a good way to get your point across, you can tell kindergarten is out

  226. tucker822 Says:

    You’re welcome, Rosetta. I understand why you’d be suspicious. Believe me. I want the truth to come out about the Obamanation. Especially before he is sworn in. His “presidency” will be a catastophe for America. I truly do not believe he is eligible to be our president and with the diligence of people like us, we may become successful.

  227. sliderblaze Says:

    idk, but incase foxtrot missed it, the “tapes” is barely been mentioned here we been talking about other things

  228. Foxtrot Says:

    Sliderblaze– this site is about exposing Obama. If you arent’ willing to come up with valid ways to get the truth out, instead of waiting on a tape that doesn’t exist, then you really do have an IQ that doesn’t break triple digits. Unlike you, I am not clinging to something that has not to this point, and probably will not come to fruition (ie. the API tape and the Imam with the baptismal record), I am working with the most valid information with the best chance of exposing Obama. And who said I was a Republican? Once again, you make assumptions. And talk about anger! Wow! Swearing on a website that you said you wanted to keep clean! Yea, right!

    For your information, I am a Liberal Democrat, and a woman, who wanted Hillary to win. She was screwed out of her rightful nomination by both the DNC and Obama. They used every dirty trick in the book to leave her by the side of the road. I am sick of people making assumptions that only Republicans don’t want Obama in the White House. There are millions of liberal Democrats, like me, who know he is not what he appears to be. Republicans don’t have a corner on the “protecting the Constitution” market, you know? My God. The arrogance of it all.

  229. Tenacity Says:

    Okay, folks…let the chaff eat each other over at MS. If JWesq and I can play nice, so can everyone else.

  230. jonathanwrightesq Says:

    I know jeez.

    I did not know I had to have an agenda to be on this site.

    Fox people disagree on all sorts of things. It is life.

  231. tucker822 Says:

    Fox, are you a PUMA? If so, cool! Thanks for working with the Repubs to try to help stop the Obamanation. My hat is off to you!

  232. jonathanwrightesq Says:

    Fox we disagree on a lot being both democrats.

    I had said back in 2004- now that I did not want hillary to get the nomination. Republicans were drooling over the chance to run against her and I was very against her stance on Iraq. I think her health care plan was a little better was her one point.

  233. Foxtrot Says:

    I don’t mind disagreements either. I just want someone who can have a civil tongue in their head and doesn’t hurl expletives on this website like Slider blaze did. Using the “F” word and calling someone “asXhoXX” isn’t what I signed on for. Those words, compared to “zombie” aren’t even in the same galaxy. I also used the term zombie in general terms, not directed at Slider. I think he may have some anger issues. All is forgiven though. As a recent cancer survivor, I know all too well that life is too short for this sort of crap!

  234. Foxtrot Says:

    Tucker, yes I am a PUMA and proud of it!

  235. Troy Says:

    PUMAS ROCK!!!!

  236. sliderblaze Says:

    Ok, lets talk about assumtions and arrogance?

    One: you assume i am clinging on the tapes issue, if you have read the posts here, you would know that assuming that, makes an ass out of yourself, for i have done no such things.

    Second: IQ 148, trying to insult someones intelligence just because they have a differing opinion than yours, plays right into my theory about you liberal democrats, (see earlier posts on that issue)

    Third: Just like a liberal democrat (man my earlier theories are about them are on display before our very eyes) you wanna blame my anger as if I just wasnt name called and provoked in the threads earlier. You soiled this site right before i did.

    Fourth: It was my fault, i shoulda pegged you ealier as a lib but, gave you the ben of the doubt by calling you a republican.

    Fifth: We are all here working on exposing obama, you just dont agree with their tact and like a lib. you make noise and name drop as if you are smarter than the rest of us

    Sixth: I agree Hillary was robbed of the nomination so, your anger on that issue is appriciated, but not tolerated on those who you ASSUME arent working of following the BC issue. just because they are talking about a different issue

    Seventh: We dont need you saving us from ourselves, we, as adults (you i’m not sure about) are plenty capable of handling our own thoughts.

    i could go on but, you get the idea

  237. tucker822 Says:

    Fox…thumbs up!!! I think what O’s minions did to Hillary was disgusting and hope that at some point justice will be served in that regard. Keep up the good work!

  238. Foxtrot Says:

    I think the Berg lawsuit with the Supreme Court may just yield us something. Obama has to respond before December 1st. I can’t wait to see what he comes up with. The last time his lawyers cited “embarrassing information” for why they did not want “discovery” in the first lawsuit in the lower court. Could the “embarrassment” be that he is NOT A U.S. CITIZEN? I call Obama the Teflon King because everything slide off of him. All the questions and challenges to him simply don’t stick!

  239. jonathanwrightesq Says:

    Too bad Obama did better with Woman than kerry did 4 years ago.

    Way to go pumas :).

  240. Foxtrot Says:

    Oops! That is the other website I check religiously–the Berg website (obamacrimes.com). I forgot to mention that one in an earlier post.

  241. Tenacity Says:

    JWesq,
    We all have some agenda or we probably wouldn’t have much to say. As I said before, I commit to keeping an open mind.

  242. sliderblaze Says:

    like i said, we here, like to be civil and not insulted about what we believe.
    example

    Esq and I are on two opposite sides of the fence and yet, no insults thrown in either direction, good, civil, mind stimulating convo

  243. jonathanwrightesq Says:

    Of course.

    Just saying as a anti-mccain pro obama democrat. I feel my agenda is different than those here. But I can be civil and respect everyones opinions.

    Noone has to be on board with everything to be at this site which is nice about it.

  244. sliderblaze Says:

    and here i see ESQ is back, has anyone checked out the site……let me find it

  245. jonathanwrightesq Says:

    Exactly the same point I was making.

    Now at this time of peace I have to take my leave for the day. Enjoy folks.

  246. Troy Says:

    Berg has strategized a plan that will push Obama and the DNC into a corner that they might not be able to get out of.

    Basically he has set them up!!!

    You can see the info here…Very interesting and promising.
    http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/

  247. Foxtrot Says:

    I used to run political campaigns for a living. The one thing I know to be true from my experience is that many voters don’t know a thing about the candidate before they go into the booth to vote. Therefore it is our obligation to inform them before they go in. That is one thing McCain did not do successfully. I admire McCain for his service to this country and I never doubted for one minute his loyalty. However, because of his own controversy surrounding his birthplace, McCain would not allow his campaign or the RNC to use that tactic in ads against Obama. Even though McCain was proven to be a U.S. citizen as both his parents were citizens and his father was in the military and stationed outside of the 50 states, he really should not have felt they were the same thing. I truly feel that if he had, he would have won! Our Founding Fathers knew the dangers of an “interloper” taking the Presidency. Now we have to help ourselves and our country and get the word out to the Electors before the Electoral College votes.

  248. flamineagle Says:

    Foxtrot Says:
    November 17, 2008 at 9:40 pm

    flamineagle–wow, are you serious? I can pick any thousand words and find them on any website. The word zombie has long since been associated with those of the “living dead”–those who would follow blindly. Get real! I have three sites I religiously go to: Larry Sinclair’s, Rosetta’s, and No Quarter (and up until it’s demise, I went to API once a day). If you start picking out single words and associating them with something else, you really do believe in conspiracy theories and Santa Claus!
    ____
    So if I use your Tape Zombie analogy, Are you calling those that are requesting Obamas Vault Birth Certificate , Birth Certificate Zombies too? Or those that follow Hillary Clinton, Hillary Clinton Zombies. Or the Obama followers, who don’t even wait to look at ALL the evidence stacked against him…Okay yeah they could be called Obama Zombies, lol

    BTW, Zombies don’t follow anyone around Blindly, lol They have no leaders, they are only hungry for living flesh to consume. Zombies when re-animated revert back to there very primal basic wild instinct, to hunt and eat. There is no King, Queen, or Zombie President to follow…..Next!

    Conspiracy theories and Santa Claus! lol Ahhhh, you forgot the poor Easter Bunny, he feels so left out, lol!

  249. sliderblaze Says:

    foxtrot?

  250. Troy Says:

    LMAOOOO….There is no controversy about McCain’s eligibility.
    He was born to two AMERICAN military parents who were stationed at a US MILITARY base in Panama….ANY US military base in the world is considered to be US sovereign soil….Just like any US embassy in the world is considered US sovereign soil.
    End of story…CASE CLOSED!!!

  251. sliderblaze Says:

    just so you know some of us can multitask, you know, since me being a conservative i must be a brain dead, IQ less than that of retarted tape thumpin “zombie”

    http://storyreportscomments.blogspot.com/2008/11/now-there-can-be-no-doubt-as-to-fact.html

    i found this interesting

  252. Foxtrot Says:

    No, because unlike the tapes and the Imam, we know everyone has a birth certificate, and we know that Obama has not provided his vault version. I deal in facts, not conjecture! The Berg lawsuit, as are the others, are tangible things we know can be provided/proven. Just like Berg stated he had an audio of Obama’s Kenyan Grandmother, and he released it as promised. You see a pattern here? You state you have something, then you actually prove you do! That is called credibility and dealing in fact. API has yet to do that. That is what we need to do to get to the end game as quickly as possible–to make sure Obama doesn’t take office.

  253. Foxtrot Says:

    Wow, Sliderblaze, you really need to get over it already. I am long since been done with it and moved on. Goodness. Life is too short for holding grudges. I have already forgotten that you called me an “asXhoXX” or told me to “FXCK” off and that you got far more offensive than anyone else on this site with your rude language. Let’s be constructive from now on. I know I have moved on.

  254. sliderblaze Says:

    http://stubbornfacts.us/politics/2008_election/on_mccains_birth_and_eligibility_to_be_president

    the law in reference to mccains eligibility issue

  255. Foxtrot Says:

    I also fault the FBI and the CIA for not doing some digging on Obama as well.

  256. Foxtrot Says:

    Troy, I agree with you. That is what I said. I said McCain should NOT have thought he was in the same situation as Obama, because he wasn’t. I hope that is clear now.

  257. flamineagle Says:

    You mention Berg, but there are many others out there too. I like to look at everything, and dig under all the rocks to uncover all the evidence.

    Obamas Selective Service Registration
    http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/11/exclusive_did_n.html

    Not just the grandmothers tapes from Berg, ( on no more tape zombies) or the white MO tapes, or the API tapes, or any other Birth certificated, yes even from Kenya or the Iman. I’m not just going to sit and veg, waiting for the Berg case, or for Obama to release his vault BC!

    I want it all, every dirty little secret out there, and I’m sure Obama has much more hidden!

  258. sliderblaze Says:

    lol, you crack me up, insult someone, dont expect them to fire back, you really are a lib……..you came in here charging at people then wanna play the victim. Point being, you stab me with a knife, i stab back with a bigger knife

    while we are on the “knife” issue, i can burry the hatchet if you can, but be rest assured, i defend myself when insulted by people who claim to be smarter than everyone else because of what they believe.

  259. ddlew Says:

    Foxtrot is Carl Rove?

    Man I REALLY DO learn something new every day. 🙂

  260. Foxtrot Says:

    Flamineagle — Now THAT we can agree on!
    __________________________

    I want it all, every dirty little secret out there, and I’m sure Obama has much more hidden!

  261. sliderblaze Says:

    eagle

    i agree, i’d love to see whats in obama’s lil college years treasure chest

  262. Foxtrot Says:

    Carl Rove is a putz who should have been convicted of his many crimes! You must have missed my earlier post ddlew! I am a Democrat and a woman who knows in my gut that Obama is not eligible to be POTUS.

  263. Foxtrot Says:

    Moving on, Sliderblaze. GEEEEZ!

  264. ddlew Says:

    And yes……I realize I spelled Karl with a ‘C.’

  265. flamineagle Says:

    Foxtrot Says:
    November 17, 2008 at 10:22 pm

    I also fault the FBI and the CIA for not doing some digging on Obama as well.
    _____
    well don’t hold your breath for any government alphabet agency to report the truth. If you believe that, then you believe Iraq has WMD as per the CIA report. ( they later recanted their claim, but we already invaded Iraq, so to little to late. )

    Remember Saddam Hussein worked for the CIA.

  266. sliderblaze Says:

    i suppose you believe that bush should be tried for crimes too then?

  267. flamineagle Says:

    sliderblaze Says:
    November 17, 2008 at 10:27 pm

    eagle

    i agree, i’d love to see whats in obama’s lil college years treasure chest
    ____
    Me too! But again all this evidence is buried so deep now, we’d need a sonar detector to find it. To many big wigs in high office, are doing this IMO.

  268. Foxtrot Says:

    No. I honestly think what millions of other Americans think. Cheney was really running the show. Bush just went along with whatever he recommended. Cheney is brilliant and evil. Bush was likeable but not the brightest bulb on the tree. I feel early on it was Cheney and Rumsfeld making most of the decisions about the war, not Bush. Although, as they say, “the buck stops here”.

  269. Foxtrot Says:

    Citizen Wells has had some good articles lately as well.

  270. Troy Says:

    slider,
    this is for you and is required reading…enjoy

    http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/02/clinical-psychiatrist-modern-liberalism.html

  271. sliderblaze Says:

    foxtrot, your waaaay tooo rich, slap somebody, then run away. good grief

    so chaney is evil, that soo is rich, i suppose you think he stole the election too?

    so am i right to assume that you voted for an even dimmer bulb in kerry?

    and for bush being sooo dumb, libs sure give him a lot of credit for controlling things like, Katrina. this is too good

  272. Troy Says:

    Cheyney running the show?….pfffft….The problem was that nobody was running the show

  273. Foxtrot Says:

    Another good article from No Quarter.

    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/17/you-have-got-to-be-kidding-me/

  274. sliderblaze Says:

    i read that article the other day….made me laugh, i need to by that book

  275. Foxtrot Says:

    Here we go again, Slider. I think you would be hard pressed to find a majority of people who think Bush has done a good job. Look at his approval rating. It is now the lowest in U.S. history! Even lower than Nixon! I don’t write the polls, I just report them!

  276. Foxtrot Says:

    p.s He didn’t control Kathrina’s rescue effort. That WAS THE PROBLEM.

  277. Troy Says:

    If you think Bush was bad just wait until you see what the next four years bring….You will be begging to have Bush back!!!

  278. flamineagle Says:

    Foxtrot Says:
    November 17, 2008 at 10:33 pm

    No. I honestly think what millions of other Americans think. Cheney was really running the show. Bush just went along with whatever he recommended. Cheney is brilliant and evil. Bush was likeable but not the brightest bulb on the tree. I feel early on it was Cheney and Rumsfeld making most of the decisions about the war, not Bush. Although, as they say, “the buck stops here”.
    ____
    Well we all have our own theories, or as some would say conspiracy theories.
    We have no solid proof at this time about anything. Any way is this, because IMO no world leader right now is honest. They are all corrupt…Puppets with someone pulling the strings. IMF, world Banks, Illuminati, Masons, Jesuits, who knows. But I know one thing, the objective is to control the people, and make profits from war, illness, economy, and anything else they have their fat little grubby hands on. It’s all about greed, and controlling the world. They all do it.

  279. Troy Says:

    You forgot to mention the Aliens and the Mother ship

  280. sliderblaze Says:

    well here you go again fox, i think you would be hard pressed to find someone who thinks your democrat run congress is doing a good job, approval rating at an all time low, in history, even lower then bush, i dont write the polls, i just report them.

  281. Troy Says:

    LMAOOOO….slider….Bingo

  282. Foxtrot Says:

    And don’t even get me started about our reputation around the world. There are always those ignoramuses who say “who cares what other countries think of us?” Well, my response to that is, “YOU better care, or trade will cease, and war will commence!” I travel around the world alot. In the past 8 years I have seen other countries go from liking American citizens to hating us. It has been unbelievable. It is sad and scary. Whoever does end up in the White House has alot of repair work to do to restore our reputation abroad. I don’t envy the person who has that huge undertaking!

  283. flamineagle Says:

    Troy Says:
    November 17, 2008 at 10:43 pm

    You forgot to mention the Aliens and the Mother ship
    _____

    lol oh don’t get me started on that crap. I’m not part of that cult, lol

  284. Troy Says:

    Yeah, right now we have a reputation of “Don’t F with us”…soon it will be “thank you sir, may I have another”

  285. sliderblaze Says:

    no, libs blamed bush for katrina because of global warming.

    a history perspetive for you, how long did it take fema, under clinton to get into SC after Hugo (which was far less devasting) answer, 5 days. I hold people responsible for their own decisions to stay, too poor my *** you seen them getting to shelter real quick once the flood waters came in. lol.

  286. Foxtrot Says:

    Wow Slider, you really do have anger issues. The two years of the Democratic majority in Congress is not who is responsible for the past 8 years of total disaster. Six out of the 8 years was a Republican President and a Republican Congress. No one is buying that line you used. The proof is in the election! Democrats gained seats, Republicans did not. It took alot of Republicans to believe that Republicans were to blame in order to have that gain in seats. Sorry, you are barking up the wrong tree!

  287. sliderblaze Says:

    i dont care about our rep, only seem like libs do “i want everyone to like me” Our rep will be increased by those who hate us, when we have to come in an save their ***es again.

  288. sliderblaze Says:

    no, it is you who is barking up the bush…..pun intended…like i said, thats the polls, when it doenst suit your party, you ignore them, God you are a typical lib

  289. Foxtrot Says:

    The problem is, we are now many years past Kathrina and it still has not been resolved. I have an Aunt who still is not back in LA because there are still many areas that look just as if Kathrina just hit yesterday! Hugo was resolved in a few short months. Kathrina is still the international and national embarrassment for the Bush administration. If you get a chance to go there, as I did as a Habitat for Humanity volunteer two years after it had hit, you would know what I am talking about. I don’t just talk the talk, I walk the walk.

  290. Troy Says:

    My neighboring city of Galveston Texas just got wiped off the face of the earth a couple of months ago….We in Tx. are taking care of it just fine…There has been no flood of federal help….That’s why we are called the LONE Star state….Self reliance

  291. sliderblaze Says:

    it’s not me who is dissing them, it’s me and 90% of the rest of the population, i guess you are in that liberal 10%

  292. flamineagle Says:

    Fema, another useless alphabet agency. Fema is not our friends.

    If something should happen, I won’t go stand in the Fema lines, no thanks. I would have found someway to get my family out, before the hurricane hit. Heck, take a bus, find a carpool, walk if need be. I wouldn’t have done to any Fema Stadium that’s for sure. I don’t care if I had 2 cents to my name, I’d find a way to get outta dodge!

  293. Foxtrot Says:

    If by “typical lib” you mean intelligent, seeks out the truth, doesn’t leave the less fortunate behind, looks at all viewpoints, does her own research instead of following blindly, then YES, I am a “typical lib” and proud of it! Wow, Slider, you really are still in attack mode. No problem. If I could survive 9 months of chemotherapy and radiation therapy, I can survive an angry poster like you any day!

  294. sliderblaze Says:

    Hugo, i’m sorry, was not handled in a few months…thats bull. Second maybe if senators like biden who voted to fund the bridge to no where instead of chooing to send that money to katrina, progress would have been made, i for one, think new orleans shoulda been abandoned, it’s clear that it’s failed. La. Under democratic control for 60 years i might add

  295. Foxtrot Says:

    Life is good.

  296. flamineagle Says:

    Troy Says:
    November 17, 2008 at 10:50 pm

    My neighboring city of Galveston Texas just got wiped off the face of the earth a couple of months ago….We in Tx. are taking care of it just fine…There has been no flood of federal help….That’s why we are called the LONE Star state….Self reliance
    _____
    Now your talking! Self reliance, no waiting around for Fema to help save ya! I do thing myself too. Food storage, garden, medical supplies, are a few of my items in case of emergencies.

  297. susiezen Says:

    hello, test

  298. Troy Says:

    Hurricanes are part of life here…we just deal with it and promptly, I might add

  299. Foxtrot Says:

    Memorial service for Obama’s “beloved Grandmother”. Obama was not there.

    http://wesawthat.blogspot.com/2008/11/memorial-service-for-madelyn-dunham.html

  300. sliderblaze Says:

    fox trot, you will find no sympathy from me, we all go through our own struggles…and by lib i mean

    wanna save the world, the whales the trees but abort the babies, then yes, i mean you
    wanna through cautiion into the wind and provide welfare with my money to those who dont wanna work, have babies at 3x the national average, smoke weed/drink all da with no strings attatched like drug testing then yes, i mean you
    wanna provide that welfare so that minorities will have enough cotton to pick just to keep them on the plantion, stifling self reliance, then yes, i mean you.
    wanna blame a president for everything that goes wrong in the world, then yes, i mean you
    wanna force there self proclaimed “intelligent” viewpoint to hell with the facts, then yes i mean you

  301. Troy Says:

    The Liberal Mind (book)

    ——————————————————————————–
    By: Lyle H. Rossiter, Jr., M.D.
    Are Liberals Out of Their Minds? Why do modern liberals think and act as they do? The radical left’s politics and its destructive effects on our basic freedoms have provoked many to speculate on what makes these people tick. “The Liberal Mind” answers these questions. This book is the first systematic analysis of the political madness that now threatens to destroy the West’s greatest achievement: the American dream of civilized liberty.

    In his penetrating analysis, Dr. Rossiter reveals modern liberalism’s assaults on:

    The freedom of adults to make good lives for themselves by cooperating with others
    The ability of families to raise children to be self-reliant and mutual
    The morals, rights and laws that protect our freedoms

    “Modern liberalism’s irrationality can only be understood as the product of psychopathology. So extravagant are the patterns of thinking, emoting, behaving and relating that characterize the liberal mind that its relentless protests and demands become understandable only as disorders of the psyche.” “The Liberal Mind” reveals the madness of the modern liberal for what it is: a massive transference neurosis acted out in the world’s political arenas, with devastating effects on the institutions of liberty.

    The author is an MD who received his medical and psychiatric training at the UNiversity of Chicago and served for two years as a psychiatrist in the U.S. Army. He is currently in private practice in Chicago.

    Dr. Rossiter is board certified in both general and forensic psychiatry and has diagnosed and treated mental disorders for more than 40 years. He has been retained by numerous public offices, courts and private attorneys as a forensic psychiatrist and has consultted in more than 2,700 civil and criminal cases in both state and federal jurisdictions.

  302. sliderblaze Says:

    oooooh everyone look at me, i’m “progressive” spare me that crap.

    texas has it right, self reliance, emerson and thoreau taught us that

  303. Foxtrot Says:

    Slider blaze, of course there is no sympathy for someone who had cancer at age 48 and was not expected to live. You have no sympathy to give. You really do need to see someone about that anger issue. Goodness gracious!

    Wow, that “cotton picking” comment was racist. I guess I can add that to the lack of sympathy.

    I will say it for the third time . . . moving on, Slider. For what ever reason you simply can’t seem to move on. I will say a prayer for you tonight, and your anger.

  304. Foxtrot Says:

    Self reliance is the way to go, of course! However, on occasion, people slip and fall. I choose not to walk over top of them. I choose to pick them up and help them to get on their feet. Not a “hand out” but a “hand up”. I guess we know who volunteers at soup kitchens, the Red Cross, Habitat for Humanity, etc. and who doesn’t. As I said earlier, I don’t just talk the talk, I walk the walk!

  305. sliderblaze Says:

    im not angry, and like a true lib, you wanna snipe, then move on, i can dish it out but cant take it…..get over yourself already,

    and the cotton picking isnt racist, it’s fact

    who created the KKK? democrats
    what party were african americans all the way till the 80’s including Martin Luther king Jr republican
    go ahead, call me racist, i know you want to?

  306. Tenacity Says:

    You guys have been having way too much fun. Its a good thing I’m not in this one. JWesq got out of here just in time.

    Troy,
    I had not seen the article you posted from TD before. Excellent analysis…better than Schrieber or others I’ve seen.

  307. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Wow I leave and come back to a throw down!!

    Foxtrot – your “typical lib” comment is certainly at the height of arrogance!! I think that slider is probably AT LEAST as informed and well-researched as you appear to think that you are. People have their own way of filtering information through their own life experiences/values/worldviews in order to draw a conclusion – for you to insinuate that someone who comes to a different conclusion is somehow less informed, narrow-minded and blind is childish and immature. I can tell you are probably an intellegent individual so please open YOUR mind and let others have their own opinions.

  308. sliderblaze Says:

    and it’s that blatant blanket sympathy is the problem because thats when that hand up, becomes a handout

  309. flamineagle Says:

    as far as Katrina, or other US disasters there wasn’t really any reason at that time to send in help. Now if it was like the China earthquake, or the Indonesia tusmani disaster, heck the Military and US bankers was johnny on the spot to help them! Why, to gain a foothold over there. Plus look at all the natural resources like petroleum, natural gas, diamonds, manganese, iron ore, gold, zinc, copper, coal, salt, oil and natural gas. The USA recourses they have, so as a military strategy, why waste help on our own people. Look at Iraq, and Afghanistans Natural resources. Since no huge natural disaster happened there, they invaded them. Well that’s just my opinion, take it for what it’s worth, lol

  310. Foxtrot Says:

    Schrieber has been backing off a bit lately. Anyone know why? He isn’t as vehement as he once was in supporting the lawsuits.

  311. Foxtrot Says:

    I wonder if FOX or any other MSM will cover the Supreme Court/Berg case on December 1st when Obama has to respond?

  312. sliderblaze Says:

    what needs to happen is to take that hand up, slap it across their chest, pick them up by the scruff and shove them out the door that I like to call life, go be part of it and contibute

  313. Foxtrot Says:

    Thinking Mom–if I wasn’t open minded, I wouldn’t be a liberal Democrat who voted for McCain! Get your facts straight before you comment. You need to read all of the postings between us. Slider was abusive from the get-go and used abusive language. I have not.

  314. Tenacity Says:

    Does every here know the Friday Rule? We need to implement it here everyday. The rule says, “Everyone is fair game, but if you dish it out, you also have to take it.” I can be as flippant as the best of them, but I have learned to not be so flippant. It just doesn’t pay and it tends to hurt feelings even when unintended.

  315. sliderblaze Says:

    we have the richest poor people on the face of the earth, bar none, while poor people in iraq have one pair of pants, these people here have cellphones, they must not be doing that bad

  316. Foxtrot Says:

    What do you want to bet that somehow, Obama’s Aunt who is here illegally, will be allowed to stay in the U.S.?

  317. Troy Says:

    Tenacity…Your welcome…I very much liked that article also and found it to be very clever

  318. sliderblaze Says:

    foxtrot, blatant like, you came in here calling us all tape zombies…..dont lie now, it’s posted for everyone to see, u throw a rock, i throw a bigger one

  319. Troy Says:

    Auntie is here to stay…..That I can guaranteee you

  320. Foxtrot Says:

    I truly believe the case before the Supreme Court with Berg will bring out the truth. Call me optimistic!!

  321. sliderblaze Says:

    yeah, you been really open minded here, you want everyone to follow you and your advice and your views, dont dwell on tapes you tape zombies, i got something better you should be spending your time on

  322. Tenacity Says:

    Foxtrot Says:

    November 17, 2008 at 11:11 pm
    What do you want to bet that somehow, Obama’s Aunt who is here illegally, will be allowed to stay in the U.S.?

    —————–
    Why not, her nephew appears to have done it successfully.

  323. Troy Says:

    I hope so Fox…even if the truth is not what we expect

  324. Tenacity Says:

    Foxt, You are optimistic.

  325. sliderblaze Says:

    lol, tenacity, it appears so

  326. Foxtrot Says:

    Zombie is no where near using the “f” word and calling someone an asXhoXX. Give me a break. And the difference is, I never directed it at any one person. You made it personal. I will tell you what I told my kids when they were young, “Don’t dwell on it and move on. Life is too short for this kind of anger.” Moving on . . . . .

  327. Foxtrot Says:

    Always.

  328. Troy Says:

    GROUP HUG???…..Hehehe

  329. Tenacity Says:

    Slider,
    I know I have spent way too much time waiting for K to do the right thing. My priorities are all screwed up right now.

  330. flamineagle Says:

    Foxtrot Says:
    November 17, 2008 at 11:11 pm

    What do you want to bet that somehow, Obama’s Aunt who is here illegally, will be allowed to stay in the U.S.?
    ____

    Well remember ya can’t call them illegal aliens anymore. The new and improved buzz word is “undocumented people” or something like that, lol

  331. Foxtrot Says:

    Isn’t Andy Martin’s case coming up soon here? I don’t have as much faith in his case as I do Berg’s but at least there are attacks on all fronts!

  332. Troy Says:

    Political correctness……BARF!!!!!

  333. Foxtrot Says:

    That was a cute post Troy. 🙂

  334. flamineagle Says:

    I agree Troy!

    Group hug, Truce:)

  335. Troy Says:

    tomorrow

  336. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Fox – i was referring to your comment insinuating that only libs are well-reasearched, informed truth-seekers. The fact that you don’t realize that people have different ways of determining what is important and what is right and wrong just shows that you don’t have as open a mind as maybe you think you do. This world is full of differing opinions – as I am sure you know. And by the way, I volunteer at a soup kitchen, give money to Samaritan’s Purse, and my husband has worked with Habitat for Humanity and my way of seeing things is more along the line of Sliders – so don’t come at me with the holier than thou attiude – we just have a different world view than you do – it happens.

  337. flamineagle Says:

    Political correctness……BARF!!!!! X’s 3

  338. Tenacity Says:

    The TD blog was encouraging for me regarding Berg’s case, but I see Donofrio and Keyes having the best shots. Should we start a pool?

  339. sliderblaze Says:

    once again, sniping…..god liberals are annoying with there i’m better than you, i can dish it out but cant take it mentality….

    no you didnt direct it at me, you directed at a group of people…..lumping us all into one category coming in here half cocked like you kno better than everyone else, and me, being in that group of people, took offense to your, i’m gonna come in here and denagrate all the people in here at once.

    you shot across the bow, and i shot back, deal with it

  340. Foxtrot Says:

    I still can’t believe that many of these judges have stated that a regular voter doesn’t have “standing” in these cases. Whatever happened to “We the people”? I pray one of them is successful.

  341. Tenacity Says:

    flamineagle Says:

    November 17, 2008 at 11:20 pm
    Political correctness……BARF!!!!! X’s 3

    ———
    Amen and Amen!

  342. Troy Says:

    Anyone up for a picnic???…Lmaooo

  343. rosettasister Says:

    Rosetta-

    ddlew is a ms person–digging for info to report back to ms

  344. Foxtrot Says:

    I think Keyes has the good shot too. Cross your fingers! Did everyone write the Supreme Court justices to say their peace?

  345. sliderblaze Says:

    thank you thinning mom 🙂 i alway provide low income housing through section 8 housing, i couulda been a slum lord like the rust of them but no, my houses have to be pristeen to qualify

  346. Troy Says:

    ddlew?….ya think?….really?…didn’t seem like it to me

  347. sliderblaze Says:

    flamineagle Says:

    November 17, 2008 at 11:20 pm
    Political correctness……BARF!!!!! X’s 3

    ———
    Amen and Amen!
    ——
    dble barf, hence the picking cotton reference lol,

  348. flamineagle Says:

    Troy Says:
    November 17, 2008 at 11:21 pm

    Anyone up for a picnic???…Lmaooo
    _____
    Sure, I’ll bring the grill, toss on a few ribs, and salmon I just caught!

    Who’s bringing the potato salad, and the beer!

  349. Foxtrot Says:

    This is a great article.

    http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/11/17/nc-2008-presidential-election-obama-is-ineligible-us-constitution-federal-election-law-nc-elections-law-secretary-of-state-nc-board-of-elections-attorney-general-governor-elaine-marshall-nc/

  350. sliderblaze Says:

    i got the brew….yinglin lager ok?

  351. Tenacity Says:

    Foxt,
    I posted the other day that at some point, if not granted standing, we must draw the line and deny the courts standing. I don’t care if That One and his Vulcan ears are listening…There are enough true americans out there that if it takes a malitia to get the stinking judges attention and convince them we have standing… It is a good day to ____.

  352. Troy Says:

    There once was a man named Obama
    Frank Davis was doing his Mama
    Phil Berg appealed
    Sam Korir squealed
    Now that’s what I call Karma

    TY, TY, TYVM…Hehehe

  353. thinkingmom11 Says:

    OK – I am done – moving on. Slider, you wanna come with me? Let’s leave Fox alone ’til she gets snarky again.

  354. sliderblaze Says:

    Tenacity, agreed, we know what party holds the guns tho…..thats right…

  355. Tenacity Says:

    Troy,
    I think your Karma just ran over your dogma.

  356. thinkingmom11 Says:

    HAAAAA Troy – that kils me!!! I love me a good limerick!

  357. sliderblaze Says:

    snarky, i’ve always loved that term, im gonna have to leave her alone (for now anyway) i need a shower, child birthing classes tonight, last one. My girl is due December 21st

  358. flamineagle Says:

    sliderblaze Says:
    November 17, 2008 at 11:26 pm

    i got the brew….yinglin lager ok?
    ____
    Sounds great sliderblaze!

    Troy great poem, lol you’ll be a blast at the Barbecue picnic, lol

    g2g take my dogs out to their business. ( Political correct word for Poop, lol)

  359. thinkingmom11 Says:

    How many kids do you have slider? I have 4! I am SOOOOO done having babies 🙂

  360. Foxtrot Says:

    Tenacity, I am at a loss as to what would get the judges attention at this point! I wish I knew. I do know that I will keep trying to do all I can to bring attention to this matter, whether it be with my Congressmen or the Justices themselves. This isn’t about Democrat of Republican, it isn’t about black or white, it is about the Constitution of the United States and no one seems to be concerned that someone may become POTUS who is not eligible. Blogging like this has helped to get the word out, but it always seems to hit a brick wall when it needs to get to the “powers that be”.

  361. Troy Says:

    Oh…Well thank you Mom…it’s nice to see I have a fan.
    Weeeeeeeee!!!!!!!

  362. sliderblaze Says:

    im not PC i’mma mac…lol

    I have a 9 yr old, this will be my second

  363. Foxtrot Says:

    I wish one of the Democratic candidates would file a suit. Then, I would imagine, there is not way a judge could say they “did not have standing”. It won’t happen, but dare to dream!

  364. Troy Says:

    Thank you also Eagle!!!

  365. sliderblaze Says:

    OMG, FOXTROT, i agree with you whole heartely on that fact,

    after admitting that, i need a drink lol

  366. thinkingmom11 Says:

    Well, have a nice class! Talk with you later, slider

  367. sliderblaze Says:

    dont forget andy martins case tomorrow

    gtg ya’ll, bback laterz,

  368. Foxtrot Says:

    Where is Rosetta tonight? She has not posted for a while?

  369. Troy Says:

    Jeff Schreiber (law student / blogger) at Aerica’s Right doesn’t think Keys will have standing….He thinks the judges logic will be that Keys had no chance of winning the election anyway

  370. Foxtrot Says:

    I read that too. However, it isn’t the judges role to make that “judgment” (pardon the pun) as to whether or not Keyes would have won or not. He is supposed to simply interpret the law. I hope the judge for that case remembers that.

  371. rosettasister Says:

    New Thread:

    https://rosettasister.wordpress.com/2008/11/17/solid-air-john-martyn/

  372. thinkingmom11 Says:

    I wish these judges would get over that standing b*llsh*t!!!! It isn’t about injury – it is about OUR CONSTITUTION!! Do they not get it or what! I just want to grab them by the collar and shake them!!! (I gotta chill – or I am gonna need a new keyboard)

  373. thinkingmom11 Says:

    p.s. Does anyone have a new number 1 key?

  374. Foxtrot Says:

    Thinking Mom–that I DO AGREE with you. No one has still specified who DOES have “standing” to bring this lawsuit. All of these suits are approaching the subject from different angles in order to try to hit the mark. It is like a moving target!

  375. Troy Says:

    Unfortunately the first thing the judge will do is determine “standing” which is part of the law

  376. Foxtrot Says:

    Yes, but I am using it.

  377. Foxtrot Says:

    I only wish that when one of these judges claims the person does not have “standing” they would state WHO WOULD!

  378. Troy Says:

    When it is all said and done, it may require a “million citizen march” on Washington

  379. Foxtrot Says:

    I talked on another blog site with people about doing that very thing! I agree that a march would be the only way to get anyone’s attention. If Obama is a citizen, why doesn’t he simply show us the vault version of his certificate?

  380. flamineagle Says:

    yeah well they will leave us all standing around waiting for them to get off the bench and make a ruling. I have very little in the justice system…( Just Us system )

    oh rosettasister Says:
    November 17, 2008 at 11:38 pm

    New Thread:

    https://rosettasister.wordpress.com/2008/11/17/solid-air-john-martyn/

    on my way:)

  381. Foxtrot Says:

    So what is supposed to happen tomorrow with the Andy Martin case?

  382. thinkingmom11 Says:

    That is the only reason I am hopeful about the Keyes case – he may be able to establish standing as a balloted candidate. But then again, as Fox stated, they may move the target. I somehow don’t think that John Adams and T. Jefferson would be very happy with this situation. They (and Franklin) were most worried about an unresponsive, unaccountable judiciary…

  383. flamineagle Says:

    Foxtrot Says:
    November 17, 2008 at 11:45 pm

    I talked on another blog site with people about doing that very thing! I agree that a march would be the only way to get anyone’s attention. If Obama is a citizen, why doesn’t he simply show us the vault version of his certificate?
    ____
    instead of a March, can we do a Foxtrot instead:)

    Dancing is the streets sounds more fun, then just Marching, lol

  384. Foxtrot Says:

    The fact that our Founding Fathers put the “natural born” element in the Constitution, even though that meant that many of them would not be able to run for POTUS themselves, says alot about how important it was to them!

  385. Foxtrot Says:

    That was adorable, Flamineagle! 🙂 I’ll do a jig if it would get the attention of the media and the Supreme Court!

  386. flamineagle Says:

    I would too Foxtrot!

  387. ddlew Says:

    Rosettasister

    ddlew is NOT an MS’r digging over hear for info to report back to them. That’s the silliest thing I’ve ever heard.

    I’m just intrigued by this whole story and I’m looking for info anywhere I can find it.

    I challenge anyone to find ANY POST on that other blog that would support the aforementioned accusation.

    I have posted over there 3-4 times and NOTHING I have said or asked them would support that premise.

    🙂

  388. Pete Says:

    So now you’re advocating sedition? Better watch what you say…

    Foxt,
    I posted the other day that at some point, if not granted standing, we must draw the line and deny the courts standing. I don’t care if That One and his Vulcan ears are listening…There are enough true americans out there that if it takes a malitia to get the stinking judges attention and convince them we have standing… It is a good day to ____.

  389. Foxtrot Says:

    Pete, we are on a different thread. Just for the record, I did not say that, it was a comment directed to me.

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  391. susiezen Says:

    I just tried to post on mountain sage, It didnt make it past moderation. wow, what a bunch of hypocrytes. they arewall over ther bragging about putting mr Korir out. I dont understand thier mentality. they are a very scarey group of people. deceitful, mean, angry, unable to see any reality but thier own. I truly think that there is something moraly and ethicaly wrong with democrats. susie

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